Fladseth - #197 - Ronny Torsteinsen

Episode Date: May 10, 2024

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It was Kurt Nilsen's Pur-Tur-Klassiker, She's So High, that I put on and started with. And now we are sitting in a kind of a listening setting, where a table is in the middle of the floor, in the basement of the Freemurre Lodz in Trondheim. Ronny Torsteinsen has arranged and managed the studio. Didrik is here too, so I I said you can just play around. You are not the main guest. It's very clear. It would have been strange if you were in the background. I said I could sit and watch. Ronny, nice to meet you.

Very nice. Good day. Welcome to Trondheim. Thank you very much. You will be on the show show tonight at the sea, as it's called. Have you been there before? I don't know what it is. I've heard it's a kind of salt complex. Yes, it's in Iran. Is it? Yes, it's a huge salt complex.

I've been there once, it's fun. You've been there once? No, you've been there once. I've been there three times. And yours? Yes, very fun. It's been a long time since I've been to Trondheim for stand-up. There were a lot of people over here in the Olafshall.

No, not the Olafshall, but... Olafsfell. Olafsfell, yes. Oh, it was the time of greatness to stand up Trondheim. Absolutely. Every damn time it was so great. And it got better and better over the years. We moved the stage to the middle of the hall, and then it was there.

Yes, and in the beginning we had the fire rules, so there were 350 people down in the basement, it was crazy. That's how it should be, a high fire danger. High fire danger. Stand up is best with a high fire danger. It should be a fire. It should be before you die. And then laugh and cry over each other. It's so good that we got your pod. I have been doing this for many years now, and you have not been a guest yet. Or have you? I haven't. – I haven't. – I have forgotten. So you are the support today, and it's very nice. – It's nice.

An honor. – Do you remember... I just thought of it when we were on the show. Do you remember the first that we met for the first time. Yes, because I talked a lot with Kevin about it. Because it was also the first time we met. It was the Moonfish Festival in Fredrikstad. The world's worst stand-up festival. It was at the Moonfish Festival. And they were going to have a new stand-up show every hour, right? Yes, every hour. Even if the carpet was on stage again, every hour. And it was like we were talking about gathering the audience, because there were only three people at the show.

Yes, that was completely wrong. And I remember that there was a heavy a concert right next to the house. Yes, because they had not put us in the corner, where we were right behind another concert venue. Yes, I say the main stage. Yes, it was certainly. No, it was. And then it was... We remember we were partying a bit later, and there was a scene where I woke up with a lot of chairs and shit up there. That was when you woke up? Yes, I wanted to put a chair up there, because you fell asleep in the middle of the party. You have such a good memory of your ex-Norwegian old shit.

Yes, it was me who put the chair up there. That's why I remember. I remember you woke up. And then we were going to take the chair. You had the chair for 15 minutes and you were like, I don't have enough. We were about to take the chair and you were like, No, don't take my giraffe. Oh, damn. It was the whole start.

I don't think I would have done stand-up more than one or two years. I wonder if we started at the same time. I started in 2012. Yes, the same year. Because we were also together at the competition in Stavanger. You were there too? Yes. Me and you. His name was Agnes Skar.

Yes, he won. He won, you know. And then there was Rasmus Wold. His name, which I have to write properly. He has been on the test tour and been part of and has been part of the Sword Show I'm playing now. There are a lot of promises in the book. Text Doctor, he calls him. Oh!

At least in that description. Yes, it's Jove Text Doctor. Text Doctor, yes. I know. What's going on today? Me? I've been writing for Newtrowl when he finished with one. That's it, really. That's it. Is it the 30th show?

It will be the 30th. Yes, hell you know. Yes, it will be. It was a long time ago. My first show was in 2014-2015. Sorry mom. Sorry mom. I googled it a bit and found an NRK reportage. It was in connection with your premiere. And the day after I think. That you had invited an NRK home. It was so small that it wasn't possible of course.

And you thought that was small? You were small. Yes, I was bad. You were a full-time student. The worst thing was that home called us. Home? Yes. And we wanted to have a reportage with your mom after mom.

And she said yes, and publicity. For those who read home, they thought you were talking about that show, right? Yes. And then what happens when we start taking pictures and stuff like that, that this is very home. We are going to stand on the side of Nydelva, and I am going to look at my mom with a dreamy look and all that. And then comes an article, so it's like a big... There are four sides in the home, and there is one double side,

but a big picture where I look at my mom with a dimple, and there is a big side, a big picture where I see my mom with the red eyes, and there is a big saying – I'm sorry mom. Oh, damn it. Then it got a lot of effect. I didn't get the only audience on that article. I think that there is something to control, because you shouldn't have… Even if you drag people on the show, we don't want them on that show.

No, no, no. It's a nice thematic that home audience can like, but inside there are some real jokes that just roll off. They have nothing to do there. I will not have one from home on a show like that. But at the beginning you think that every thing is the thing that... Yes,? Something home written, something loose, something that is... That's naive. That's so naive. But your story is probably a bit boring, of course. And not that I am a tabloid podcast, but it's exciting to hear a little bit.

And first of all, because you a background as a retro-narcoman. And you have your joke, your legacy, but you have some classic in the Norwegian stand-up. You have Basse Bolstad's – you boil coffee in a pot, which went on retro-old-time barista joke. Shut up, you're cooking coffee in the kitchen. And then you have your... What happened to the guys on LAAABE? Yes, that one has been... That one... That one is yours, people still quote it.

Yes, it has started to has started to sound like a sound clip. When you go to hell with people, it's just lying on the ground and someone is struggling. Would you give the honor of a brief recap to my listeners? Or did you retire? Yes, but what I started out with, after I played live, I retired and I was very tired of it. Because I am so unknown that no one talks to me on a daily basis. But at 4.30 I started to open up. So no one knows my name. They are actually a bit unsure if I have that joke. So they just shout punchline very loudly, and then I'll answer. But the joke is...

I recognize that. How do you recognize that? It's so meat-spackling, men in boys and... Blue clock, meat-spackling. And there are those things, you know, you can't change things. It was a real bad thing when you were half a year old. Yes, it was, for sure. Yes, yes.

But what can you say? Yes. Yes, sure. But what should I say? Yes, I have been a Russian abuser, and what's cool about that is that you have been in a bubble, you think you are smart all over the world, especially the police. The police would never arrest us, we were so damn smart. So we were supposed to put up a light on the charge in the drone, and the light was full of amphetamine, but the police didn't take us, because we had a police radio. So suddenly we heard the police saying, from Bravo, we're waiting for the traffic light, and we go into the apartment, and the charge is over. And we just... damn, it hurts like hell.

And then out of nowhere, the police came in, the hand on the back, down on the ground, and out in the police car. And when we sat in the police car, he said, my friend, damn, I wonder how he got on the car. That's so pure and nice. That's so good. That's so good. Let's give a round of applause to Didrik.

That's fucking great. Beautiful. Very good. But it was my anfetamine that went in. Yes, that was where I ended up every time. It was the one that made me understand that it was stupid and stupid. So I realized that every time. What do you mean by that?

I mean that... I had a few weeks of months and I was like, okay, something has happened to me. And then I had a little coke. A little coke had to be good. And then it always becomes a little coke or a ton of coke. And then you check the account and then... No, just take the amphetamine. Yes, because it's Fatimans. Yes, it's half price. And if it's yellow in addition, you pay three quarters. If it's yellow because it's a mistake or is it just because you're... I don't know. Why does the sandwich turn yellow? It tastes the same, or does it burn a bit more than I said?

If anyone knows why the sandwiches turn yellow, send in Kodor. It's just a little color mis-painting, and not that the buyers are necessarily very critical. But you are critical to the color of the soap, right? Or not? You are critical to the colour of your hair, right? Or not? You are critical to the colour of your hair, right? Or not? You are critical to the colour of your hair, right? Or not? You are critical to the colour of your hair, right? Or not? You are critical to the colour of your hair, right? Or not? You are critical to the colour of your hair, right? Or not?

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So you feel like you are a few steps away from a completely different direction in life. And that's what fascinates me. It's like you like to watch movies and series, where people feel a bit more carously. Maybe that's how it is seen. I can't... or I can, but I am a very sensitive person. So if I watch a movie, I have as the main character in the movie afterwards. So I am the baby reindeer, I was very tired. I just felt raped and what... I don't know what it is for now, but my soul must sometimes just turn off the movie, because...

No, now I am getting a little lazy. You are in a trance in the hook. Yes, but I have the with me when I meet people. If I meet you and you are tired, I get tired as well, so I am as tired as you are afterwards. I just get unusable. It's a gift and a commitment of course. You are almost a snowman. I can't help you. I can just have it with me.

It's worthless. Everyone has a damn. You have a damn and those who have a damn have a damn. And those who have a damn are on the side. Zero help. What do you think, Raba? I read in an interview that your mother said that you were a very thoughtful and dreamy and curious child. Yes, that's true. Do you have anything to do with that?

I'm usually so bad at such things, but now I think I'm good. You're really good at it. I'm totally driven by it. A thumbs up from the producer. Very good. I thought about this a bit, because I was doing a job, and someone commented that I don't have any filters, that I share very openly, and then I started thinking about this one evening. I think it's because I've spent a lot of time with psychologist, from the childhood, and I think that's just been me, talking about this shit. And back to what was in the article, I think I started very early to think about the heavy stuff like death,

what happens when we die, why are we here? And I just became a special guy from you. You have given yourself access to the feelings from your childhood. Because I think that is a mechanism, a go-to mechanism for most of us, to close out the things that are painful. It's right and right. And I haven't had a lot of pain through it, but I can't remember the pain so badly. I kept it at a distance. I thought that was the best thing, it's a matter of experience.

From evolution and our biology, we expose what is unnecessary. The things that matter is to be fucked up as hell and be reproduced, and get food and the basic needs. And this here... Now I hear... Listen to this! Yes, it's Wolfgang Wierd. No, I'm kidding. But can't you do anything about that? I think I can do something about that. Sounds reasonable. Yes.

In your opinion. That is the core of Russian problematic. Mostly, there are very few who are just some race who just want to have fun. When you are in command and in quite a hard... There is a history, as usual. What fascinates me, what interested me with Russian politics and all that, is that it seems like many generations don't understand what's behind it. And that's why you don't understand why the Russian politics has been and still is so flawed, because there are so many gaps behind it, that we are looking for a Russian to avoid the problems they have. You have to deal with what creates the need to forget and hide.

For many years we have not had any medicine that could help all of this, so it is self-medication. So now my ketamine has come out, which has 70% of the deprimed people who ended up with much better after the ball. 5 MO they have tried to use against heroin addiction. 80% stopped heroin after the ball. What is 5 MO? 5 MO DMT.

It's a 7 times as strong DMT. It's a hint from the back to a bufu frost down the Amazon. Oh, that's crazy. Yes, it's a six times as strong as DMT. It's a complete mess. It's a six times as strong as you. I think it will be a lot of fun. And I remember reading a research that they have found out that people with bipolar or ADHD

react differently to drugs. And I think that is a game changer, if we manage to get the kids to know that this is a little bit of a trick. You can take it once and then you're done, or you it all at once and you've sucked that guy. Yes. I've read a lot about these research projects that took place in the 50's and 60's, before the war on drugs and but it was Reagan who started... Yes, he wanted to have you anti-war hippies. Yes, but here they are leading a crazy war in Vietnam, which again leads to veterans come home, the opioid addicts who just rake, and you get an epidemic of the opioid addicts, soldiers, and here Berlin gets like, the fact that it was they who started all of their own there,

then they put down all of drugs and called it the enemy of the state. There is more behind this story, because the authorities introduced the Americans for LSD and ecstasy. So they were also involved in making it big, in addition. Yes, but of course it's not stupid to look at the different... I mean, total freedom is not what we want, but it's what is hanging on today. You don't see the treatment of the ketamine for what it is. You take everything from drugs, call it drugs, and say that we should not have any of it. The alcohol goes well, but we should not have a shit about anything else.

That is why it is so difficult for people to accept the treatment of ketamine, and psilocybin, treatment with SOP, treatment with LSD, treatment with DMT. Because many generations have grown up with the propaganda that is hanging from that time. And what happened before, in the 50's and 60's, it is incredibly interesting to read about incredibly resource… I talked about this in the podcast before, but I'll repeat it again. Resource-intensive academics, often, who were put on drugs and and some tasks, they would solve things in the day. Things they hadn't solved in their career. They would go out during the day, when things calmed down a bit,

and start with this, with the assistance from professionals. And many of them did it. Here it was Norwegian people, everything that was is in the psychedelics explorer's guide, and probably many other books as well. But I remember there was a Norwegian architect who was there, I think his name was Henrik Bull or something. Yes, it was. And several others, in a way, I'm talking about engineers and architects, and everything possible. So to say that you are on a diet and soon you will have amphetamine and feel like the smartest person, and say that it is the same as being in a ketamine treatment... That is a dangerous common denominator here.

Yes, it is completely insane. And I really feel that it is quite valid, the perception of it. So it is's crazy. And the problem with when it was illegal was that we stopped all research on it. No researcher was allowed to continue. You were blacklisted if you researched it. And LSD is the ancestor of a lot of antidepressants we have today. So I think if we haven't had that offer, we would have been in a completely different place with treatment of depression, PTSD and all that. Yes, but you can see that you are on your way back here. It's happening now, it's very interesting. And what you have seen, it takes a little time

to get in place and put the speaker in last place. It takes some time to get the clinical tests and all that stuff, and that's good, to get it done properly. But in a few years you will be able to bank the table with these research results, which you can read today and see that there are huge positive results? Yes, there are maps. They have some projects going on now, both in Silos and in the city of Amager. And it's a crazy number. So things happen. Interesting. Should we take a look at theout? Are you ready for that?

I was in your podcast yesterday. I don't hear so much on podcasts, people are familiar with it. I don't have anything to do with your podcast, but I heard it yesterday and liked it very much. Which one did you hear? Just one thing. Snorre Månsson, 22 years old. and one of the artisans we have, very nice. 22 years old, his mother works with allergy testing, and then she was tested for half a year ago. Ramonsohn, this person had a stint. Yes, but he was still 22 years old when he was played in. And it's been half a year since his mother tested him for allergies. He looks so allergic, he was supposed to be tested for the first quarter.

That's right. So that was the thing. That's nice. Now the mother is not in a hurry to defend herself, but in the end I am of course happy. Mamma Monson. Let's see, I have to find... Let's see, Let's take a... Let's take a...

Oh, this takes a long time. I have to find it. Okay, we are going to a scenario. Yes. What is the most powerful or strongest animal you could win over in a one-on-one battle to the death. You can only use your own hands or legs, and no weapons or other tools. You and the chosen animal are placed on a small slat, about 30 times 30 meters. Both you and the animal know that there is a battle to the death, and we all know that. Let's start with this animal you want to choose. And here I am. I can't fail, guys. I have to give the audience an interesting fight.

I have to say a hug. I say no. A pin animal and a hug, but you can't do that. Yes, you. A fight dog. That's very cool. A fight dog, you? Then we'll talk. Yes, but I have a trick. If a friend... You're a banker. A banker, I'll take your trick.

Thank you. Very good. A friend... Because back in the day, people had a fight dog. No one really had a fight dog. Most of the time you had a cool dog, and you said it was a fight dog. And there was a friend who said that if you were attacked by a fight dog, just put your finger in his ass. Yes, yes. Put a finger in his by a campfire, just put your finger in his ass

Yes, put your finger in his ass Finger or put your finger in his ass? Yes, two different things maybe I will start with the finger in his ass, or put it in his ass No, no, put your finger in his ass, because then he gets scared Then he gets scared But again, he comes pretty fast Yes, you have to take one step to the side, out of the maneuver, and then come back, so I can get my fingers to grab it.

Yes, and he goes straight into the gut, so then I don't have enough... Yes, but if you are completely obsessed with getting your fingers in the butt, it's like cutting the green line on the bomb. You have to find the green line. In that cut, everything is over. So in that you get your finger up, maybe you should sacrifice a bit in the thigh, for example. You can almost just lock it with your thigh. Bite with the thigh. I'll take that. To get that finger up. Then you're disarmed. I feel like I should be used to being able to manage in a stressful situation and find it out.

No, it will be too much. The map should be used to the cave. You should know the dog's body a little bit and of course the cave placement. But you know how the fox is, it's right under the hall. Yes, it's a simple... they have to show it. It's a simple butt and fin. Yes, but of course the group is not the first one, they say, so then it will be... But what do you think? We will come to the performance. Are you coming here? You pack in some equipment and come.

Yes, of course. We will come to the fight. But then you leave for an Amstatt or a Pitbull or one of those variants? Yes, I think so. I am going to change my mind, because I am a bit prejudiced against the type of dogs in the fight. Because often they are nice as lambs. Yes, often. At least Staffen is a family dog. Yes, but I just see that I am a dog that is very cute and nice, but she is strong and she is breaking away when she has to. But if I make one mistake, she just bites my nose and then she is dead. That fear is sitting in me. It looks scary. I was visited once, who had a real fight. I had injured my hand, and I was bandaging it.

I made a tab, and I did like this, and I was hugging the neck. And then the dog clucked, and it was standing under a big shit. And then it was standing and biting the neck. Because the injured one is trained to look at the neck. Yes, so he looks at the knot, and he gets so angry, and then he eats the eggs, so he just stands there and pecks the things. And the worst thing that happens is that the dog pecks the things, it's so… Yes, it's awful. It's so animalistic. Yes, it is.

I regret a little that I chose the fight, because now I realize how anxious he was when he pecked the things. It's going to be hell for this, when we're going to the fight itself. It's going to be hell when we're going to watch the fight. It will cause some violent trauma in you. But when you choose, it's your fault. I was in Bali with Lars Berrum a few years ago. Lars was there for several months. And now Martin Beyer Olsen, his partner in crime, he is with his family in Bali now.

And he told about this in the podcast. Martin, one of the first days I think he had ordered some food from one of these go-jack, He didn't want to go all the way down to the house they had rented. So Martin had to go in the dark, and pick up the food. And then he meets them, and what happens is that he meets these Disney-faggots with And the hyenas in the Lion King, they gathered around you. It's crazy. And this happened to me when I was in Bali. One time I was a little pissed off, I wanted to go home and sleep, because I had a jet lag. I was like, no, I'm going to fall. And then the road had been blocked by a lion cub who was just standing there, flicking his toes. And I had to relax.

Lars experienced it, he relaxed, but the road... Relaxed. He was standing with food in his hand. Yes, he let him go, but Vegard... He stood with food in his mouth? Yes, he hadn't picked up the food yet. Then it was a day, of course. He had fasted and slept. So he got a bit tired and got wounds and had authorities have their own side where you can go in and see potential dangers in the country you are going to. And the fact that the food problem is not solved is more problematic than it looks on the Norwegian side.

Hi! Hi! Hi! It's sick. Yes, it's sick. If you're going to Bali, be careful with the loose balls. We're going to the arena. The arena. And look at this, we have Amstatt or Pitbull, if you can see them. Yes. Pitbull also knows that he is about to die. You are put with some distance on this sledge, 30 times 30 meters, if you see that. And then

the flute goes on and on. Then we assume that the he's not afraid of you then, I think. Because you don't have anything more than hands and feet. No, I look like a walking I think my plan is just to stand and then I show him that I'm afraid. Like a brotherhood or something like that? No, I think I'll just make him believe that this is just the finishing, you start at the sign 1%, and then the ring comes, and then I duck right before. What do you mean by ducking? I duck, and then I go straight down the hill. It will jump on you?

It will jump over, I turn 180 degrees, ding dong, straight in the ass. This is a huge chance game, of course. You play all at one horse, and I crash on the table. You dive under. If you look at the exercise, you have to either put your side forward or backward, or straight down, you should put it down as fast as possible on your stomach. Straight down? Yes. And then you have to put on that you manage to get your finger in. Because if it comes over, you have to do it all over again.

Hahaha. Until it sits. Hahaha. And I don't know what to do after that. Because what do you think happens when you see how scared he gets of your finger? That it sticks out, but it doesn't come out of the track, it's an arc. So then I have to start chasing after it. Then I just go with my finger high, because then it knows... Yes, because it shows your fingers. Does it fit, boy?

Yes, it fits. And then I use hand uses it to put it back in. And then I can say that I won. I don't think I can hurt you. Then you are done. Then you have to walk around until you are not scared anymore. Then it will be your turn. Because you can't get out without you dying. I don't think I can... I don't think... If you were to kill someone young, you wouldn't have to would be in the family. I would kill a young girl one day. I didn't think I would shoot myself in the foot. So I think it's genetic to kill an animal. I heard on a podcast that she is most likely to be the vice president candidate for Donald Trump.

A woman from a certain place, a governor from a certain place. She is now doing something with the world record attempt to become politically dead. She says that she has killed an old vichassi, because she couldn't get a message on it, and I'm just saying. It's like... to kill animals and see them suffer is... I can watch movies with people who die in the number of deaths, sick women and children. But the horses that are going into the dump, and all that madness, is it horrible? I am legend when I see Bichat. Every time I see a pig, and it's with a girl or'm like, no, don't worry, let Bisha be. The worst nightmare is that Bisha gets attacked, and doesn't die instantly, so I have to deal with that.

Fuck, we can't talk about that. But then you capitulate, you take the fox and hope… I don't take the fox, will be a completely different program. But as a defense mechanism... Finger in the fox, and hope that it will hold? It can hold. That you don't have to kill it? That it will hold with your finger in the fox? If not, I can take a hook when I am first in there, that you bend it down and hold it in your shoulder. And use momentum to throw it around, throw it straight into the wall.

Then it goes so fast that you can stop thinking about it. That's probably the end. That's probably the end. I think you solved the challenge in a way. Thank you. We'll close it now. The fight will not be... not fingers, but with our fingers. And then I have some tips for you. If you still want to go to Bali and don't take pre-season rules,

as both Lars and I and Martin should know, it's not easy to take your fingers in the pocket of one of those Disney-hunes. No, and if 12 people come... So you have 12 fingers to have just 10? But it may also work on Voldax main. I thought it was 12-4, and then he had only 10. But it could also work on my VOLTAX? Does it? I think it's just a faster gas on the goal. Kisper, the kinky degree to the VOLTAX goal.

Yes, that's what it does. I don't think a VOLTAX will be scared of that one. Or if it's a voldex man, he will be like, ok, your legend, I give up. I give up. I didn't know this. Do you have more fun facts about this? No, I don't. Or is it just this one you can. You only have this one. The only one I have.

If I mention you, I will mention your other fun facts I can. No, I think I have the only one. We should not stay too long today, because I notice that it's a show about... I have done my solo show at the premiere, and it was in Bergen last weekend. You were the premiere in Heldraa, in the center of the stage, and in Bergen, very nice. What happened was that I had... We were going to the Golden Wheel, that's what I was thinking. And thank you to those who came to Bergen, and I didn't get to talk so much with people after the show, because what happened was that I had run away to the Golden Gate,

because the maestros were going to have me in the hall, because I was going to be in the place of the prize I was in the Golden Gate. Your show was absolutely beautiful, by the way. Thank you, thank you. Didn't you have any When I was in the city they nominated for the places there. Otherwise it looks so bad. If people are not there. It looks like the prize does not matter now. And I also found out that there was no exit from backstage. I had to leave backstage and go out, I had bad time, so I just had to knock on a door, and it was right outside the audience's door. The whole audience that had seen me was on their way out. And I didn't have any problems with that at the time, I could take a picture and a chat, and thank you for coming.

But I was in a fucking shower, so I just had to say thank you for coming, I didn't have time for anything else, I had to break my way. I was going to get a golden wheel. If someone hears about it, they are sorry for that, so they must have regretted coming. What a bullshit thing to do. The revenge of the experience. And then I took a kick scooter down to the Hall and sat down and got a glass of wine. And then it was our category and we won the damn prize. You did? Congratulations.

So it was a huge... So you won the prize, but it was a bit new season. That's right. But it was good numbers too? No, that's what it is. And I have a lot to say about it, but it wasn't a good number. I think if you had managed to reach out to all of Norway, you would have gotten more than enough people who liked that type of series. It's a small series for the first. But of course, it's more positivity from those who actually like it. Because you bring something completely different to the table than a lot of what is out there.

But TV2 is a broad commercial channel and they cut half a billion in annual work and full package. And then there is something about TV2, people do not't think TV2 makes such a series either, so it's not the consciousness of the people either. So I think they could have stood in it and built it in a way that could have been a success, but I was very unlucky, because the numbers were not good enough and TV2 had to cut money and so on. But the journalists afterwards were very concerned about the polarization or the little conflict there. I think in one way, it could have been interesting for TV2 to actually say, I told his boss in TV2, after the it up afterwards, that it's damn, come on, safe! Now it's going on Monday, and they start to gather in to press conferences outside the TV2 building there, and then they say, we made a mistake, fucken, it's okay, and it will be a season 2.

I don't have more to say, but now it's the time to go and do a full-back. But to pull yourself together, there will be a lot of publicity and... Yes, but did Seinfeld have a bad first season? Many have had it, yes. So maybe it gives some time? No, I just thought that... There are several factors that affect the player. I don't want to complain and seem so bitter. I was a bit bitter at the beginning, but now I think I can make something new. Humor drama is a very difficult niche, so it's possible to make something that is...

Yes, because we are a small country. But Battle Royale was released on 047. What did I hear? I saw it. It's a joke. A joke that has to be made on the TV channel. But that can be opened up. I agree with buying the stuff, paying 19 kroner to watch the whole thing. It's a great solution for the projects that are not being recorded. I have thought about it actually.

When it's like it is in Norway, up? I have thought about it actually, that it is... When it is like it is in Norway, and the channel has a lot of power, that YouTube... it is possible, but YouTube has been for many years, it will not be the same. I feel that it will be too small a number in Norway, that YouTube is now relevant to us. You have to finance it yourself, and now you have to finance it again, right? But on this 047 or whatever, they will finance it, they will buy the production and publish it. And I don't know your business plan, but I have thought that now the billionaires have to,

now the tech billionaires have to come on the track and start to find a new channel where there is room for the more narrow and the more... Yes, what is more narrow. That's maybe what this is. But then we have also come to... I remember when I was a beginner, I was a musician. I remember when I started music, everything was made by in a way that you could do in the studio. But now today you get everything. Maybe it's the same with TV channels. You can just start a TV channel, you just understand. Yes, it's damn, but there must be a way out. But it's something with TV that everyone is so keen on. You earn a good amount of money and you have the potential to meet a lot of hundreds of thousands of people. And the fact that it is like that also means that you have to make something bigger, right? But I think... I can't see for myself that this is it. That it is these three or four channels that will fight for the content of all of them.

I think it will become a kind of grass root movement, which will make it... and then you see reality, and NRK has a mandate to make a little more... have a little more width in the content, but they are also concerned with all clicks and numbers and meet broadly. But if you are in a way, if you make a channel like this, maybe 047, that you are satisfied with, like, okay, 20 000 is on this, that's good enough for us. The relationship is not, the whole world with money and stuff, but less then the billionaires say

Fuck it, we are not in to have this, we are throwing in a lot of money. Yes, jokes, no difference if you give a million or not. No, it's like throwing money around to charity and so on, so you make it easier to throw money around to give a small amount of entertainment to the people who want it. It's not bad at all. What do you think after TV2 got so mad with the game, after getting hit with the foreman, do you think that what people are looking forward to now will be the reality with fucked up psychological games. Yes, that's what they do. And I think it will be reality.

I think it will be a bubble in the end, when people are tired of it. And that's how it goes. It's not many years ago that they said that the sketch shows were dead. It's not possible to make a sketch show on TV anymore. And I think that's a bit on the way were dead. It's not possible to make sketches on TV anymore. And I think that's a bit of a way back now. And a few years ago there was a humor drama, and it was made very much a humor drama. And now it's maybe on the way to the weekend, that it's going on in the cyclists, we'll see. But it's sad, if it's the future, that the only one being made is celebrities competing. Yes, it's very sad.

But it's a bit more... If people are happy with watching comedy, drama and drama series and a bit of other types... Success is a small series globally. Yes, really? Yes, but there are so many series globally that like the small content, so it is possible to make it. But they gave up after 4 seasons, that's a small reason for that. They don't reach the big productions. That's interesting, that was a big deal. Yes, it's fantastic. It surprised me a little, that it was considered so narrow. But if we see the comedy that is made in other places in Norway, and if you are satisfied with that, it will be like that.

It's not the channel to blame, it's the people who decide. And of course, now you are not completely out out with marketing, algorithmic management and so on. But people don't know that your TV numbers are being calculated from a thousand TVs or something like that? No, do you think so? Yes, I have read something about that TV numbers are being completely legit, because you just take someone who goes out... I have seen so many analysts afterwards, that I don't see that. You don't see it? No, I think it's the number of houses.

Okay, so they can measure what everyone is looking at? Yes, it's pretty measurable. I think they calculate the number of houses and average faces that are on that screen. Okay, I'll bring that back to you. The rest of the world is incredibly analytical, and you draw in the brain, and it's so damn... And then there are numbers-crushers, blue shirts, and in turn give thumbs up or thumbs down

on projects like that. But are they all, or are they only on linearity? No, they want to be on web, I forget, I forget. Yes, the numbers are right, it was the people on the web. I forget. Yes, the numbers are the same as journalism. They write about the guy who had two penises and six articles and so on. And then you complain, damn, is that what you should write about? It's so much more interesting to make things up. And then you forget that this is your own people who click on this.

And you write about what is clicked on. It is the clicks that control this. It is the number of views that control it. So if you want to do something with it, you have to take the lead. So it's the people who decide. So's how it is. And then there is of course the discussion about how our publishing strategy was lucky, and if we could have hit the market differently. If you don't care about TV2 and don't like reality, you might like the show we have made. But then you won't be hit by the algorithm on thin ice. But the algorithm is directed at those who are interested in TV2's content at the beginning. Do you think it was the right channel to do it on? Do you think it could have been better if they had discovered it? Yes, I am super... I have to say, and it is like the journalists who would have me to say

that I don't give a shit about TV2, I don't want that, because I had a very good cooperation with them, and from the beginning they threw themselves on that project and meant this, and had faith in it, when not so many others did. But TV2 is not much on linear TV, but is TV2 a humor channel? Everything has happened to me that they are more family and Discovery is more humor. Yes, TV2 has been a entertainment channel. They have had great success with the broad entertainment concepts. There is the company Lauritsen, there is Foreder, there is Sp, you know. It's them, it's them who are TV2. And then they had football, they had Premier League.

And now they have... A small series. Now they have a small series, and OBOS, and a little Champions League. But then they have now put their humor back on. And that was the series I made. Now it was a part of the humour. So the question is, what do they put in a humour version? Because they took in a lot of established profiles and made a lot of concepts that you have seen before. And that hits us as hell. But the smaller... I mean that humour is...

Now we are doing with humour, so it becomes extra lucky for us, but humour is fresh. If you look at old humour, you often don't laugh, because it head-on set-up, to put on what challenges, renews and dares to test out. Otherwise you can't call yourself to have a head-on set-up, if it is more about keeping up with that old shit. That's true. So, think about what would have been the stand-up if it had never been tested, and if the genre hadn't been tested, what would it have been? You have to do it. There has to be eternal satisfaction. A question regarding the Swedish writer, I saw that he is a newcomer, he who ends up almost being silent all the way. In the hall. Who ended up almost being silent all the way? Jalen. Jalen, what was it?

Is there a reason why he is not a comedian? Had you not had the thought that we can't use a real comedian here, because he would become so unsympathetic? Or was it just a good actor? We tested many comedians, but also many actors. Of course a comedian would have had it easier to go on stage and act like a comedian, so we worked a bit with that. We shouldn't have so much of it, the stand-up part of it. But the role was the most demanding. It had a character with many teams and a journey, not least. Peter Førde, who got the role as Jarl.

A great job. Disliked him to such an extent. He came in and not only is a very good actor, but he understood the role. He worked very hard to get the role. He was just shining. He hadn had jo gjort stande før da, men han har sett stande på skjønner, liksom hvordan han skal gå in i en rolle. Han har jo masser utdanne, så han er kjempeflink. Han bare hade personligheten i prøvespillingen, og til en Jarl, som vi had sett for oss han. Han var just super good. There are many comedians who play well, but we didn't feel that we found exactly that type. Even though many tried to play the role.

I thought it was because there were no comedians who wanted to have that smell. No, there was no one who wanted to talk about that. But I'm very happy that it got better and it was great. Yes, it was great. And I think the one when you were on the night patrol, it was in Trondheim, wasn't it? Yes, it was here. Was it after Ola's pub? Yes. Or was it after the city stage? There was something like the city stage? Maybe it was the city stage.

I think it was after I was going to jump Lille in the comeback. That was that evening. Oh, your evening was there? Yes. That was a good evening. It was a good evening. Yes. And then it was...

Yes, no, it was on the way home from that evening. Yes. And it was, as I see it, on our way home from that evening. Yes. And it was, as I see it, now I remember, it was here, Egon, it's not far away from the street where we are sitting now, right? And then I slept that it was further down, because now I actually walked from the sunset side and here. So it's not a long distance, but then I was hit by a damn sign and flowers on it, so it seemed like that expedition. And we almost got to the apartment of the lady, the police too. Okay. And that's damn fun!

So we found out in the beginning, when we played in the series, when we played in a scene on... We played in some scenes on the new scenes with live audience. We wanted to have the authentic stand-up feeling, so we had an entire audience in place, and we had done a parallel filming and a stand-up show for those people there. But then we had to have technical things. I had to... We had to keep the audience going. It was a long show with recording and everything, right? So we stood there and Marta was there and Jørnis was there to keep the audience going.

And I was up there a bit and had a thousand thoughts in my head at the same time, so I was completely blown away. But Jørnis got me to tell the night patrol story from the stage, just a little bit. We have to fill it a little bit. We have to fill it up. And then it's like our eminent photographer Paul Rønnevik, he walked around there with a handheld camera and filmed. And he was standing at a time behind me and filmed my back towards the audience with a B-camera or A-camera that filmed the front while I was telling the story. And while that was happening, Paul was thinking in his head that I was his cameraman on the night of the trip. And there is an observation that he was filmed in what he got the discovery, I think. That was me. And then he tells me, if it was the same evening or the day after, I don't remember, but I think it was him. That was him.

That was really funny. Because I was stopped by the police, and he had a camera with him. As I usually say, he had photo, sound, direction, everything. And light, everything. He had that photo package, he had gear up with everything, and jumped out of the sidecar on the police car, and lay on me, and I kicked him away, and I was like, what the hell is he going to do with this? This is a private relationship between me and the police. And that became the core of the fight in that 7-minute long sequence. You didn't come out of it badly, did you? You used it in promo for your first show.

Yes, I used it quite actively. And then it was taken out of... There was a vicar in the sports club, and it was also built. So I was there for a long time. I love to see it. There are things like that, it's incredibly, incredibly... I'm very nosey and cocky. But also funny at the same time. Yes, that's it. And you don't dislike yourself. Yes. No, so it's a bit mixed feeling.

Now it's a small podcast, but I have promised her, the lady, not to talk about it in bigger talk shows and such. And I respect that. Now I forgot a bit. We sit in a cellar and... He's got a mic in his mouth. No, the dog... It's like a wound that's being pulled up. Because the dog was never about this. And she's slender, she's anonyme. Oh, yes. But everyone has been in some sort of rut. Now it's Thursday, it's not on Friday, but it's sold out anyway, I hear, at the sea. And you're going to Stavanger tomorrow?

Yes, and Stavanger tomorrow, so it's not on Friday, so if you listen and are close to Stavanger, I think it will be easier again there. Even if it's sold sold, it is okay to go to Stavanger. Where is Stavanger? Stavanger. Stavanger? I can't remember. I don't know where it is. It is a humorous scene. The old revue scene, I think. Okay. Do you do anything about revue, Ronny? No, I am writing something, so I am not out. You can follow me on Instagram if you want to.

Ronny Torstensen. Right. Then it will be a new show about Mikkel's 5 and 5? Oh my god! And don't forget to put your finger in the dog's ass if they are a threat. Or my sex. Or Volt, it's more of a challenge of course. But thanks for listening and yes, there is of course a lot of them every time. Tickets, many cities I come to, and then there are the tickets at Henrik Fladse.no. All cities and tour guides and all that. Very good. Have a nice weekend and a good life if you will be there again. Bye!

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