Fladseth - #204 - Gustav Nilsen

Episode Date: August 16, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 We are in the process of talking and Gustav says that... Is there a joke? We are not pressing the button now. It's both funny and nice what we are talking about. This was the opening of the season. It will be like this now, grandma. I will not be so pleased, you know. That's what is very nice about your podcast is that it's so playful and nice. It's... Gustav Nilsen, a real troubadour we have in the studio, and that two-head gang, what's the name of it? Mjøsregionen, have been very underrepresented in the podcast. Yes, I would say so. The ring-tree-critic is hitting you hard, I see. Yes, but it's... I can't remember having one with that lovely, cozy dialect.
Starting point is 00:00:51 No? You have heard a little bit about it. I have heard what is funny. I don't know if people often call and invite themselves on podcasts? Yes, they do. You did a little bit. Yes, but is it often? Do people do it? It has happened, yes? It has happened.
Starting point is 00:01:06 It is quite common actually, that people invite themselves. What do you say? It is the first time I have done it myself. But it was when I discovered your podcast a few months ago, and then I thought, this is really fun. And then I started listening to a lot of flutes, because you have so many in the back-up on the day. So I sorted a bit and started with some names that I have the least connection to.
Starting point is 00:01:28 And then I work on it and I take some jabs here and there. Because you do that, you take the ones you have the least connection to. Because that's interesting, and it's a pleasure to hear. That's how it should be. I think it's fantastic with his big head, which is a name I know, but I've never heard of it. Beautiful podcast. Stuile, you're out there, I think he's gone to Thailand and DJing and one thing or another. I think he's been there for many years, I haven't heard from him for a long time.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Tell me one thing, Gustav, the tone of the environment, it's much discussed, which is damn nice. Is it like that to understand that the very least of you, the small-time people, don't talk with that dialect? Because it is both the sweetest and the most sickest thing I can think of. I can't think of when I'm sick. Unfortunately, it's like they are born now. Or the younger generation, they speak Oslo-Mål. They watch barntv, and then they copy the voice from barntv, and then they talk, Kjukk-L, and Oslo-Mål is pretty similar. That's it. But there is some dialect on barntv, like my son, he says, he comes to his nose and so on, You say that? Yes, I say that. So he picks up a couple of words from there, some dialectology.
Starting point is 00:02:45 When I said sick, I said it was wrong. Was it the East-Folk sling that many have? The speech error that many young people have started with. It's balls and stuff. Balls? Yes. I don't know where it came from. Has that sneaked into… those who have voices on TV, they have that... Because that's a wrong number. That's probably it. It's not the North East. But I know that. There are just a lot of young people who have started saying balls and... They can't say L after that.
Starting point is 00:03:16 But I don't know where that comes from. Do you have any thoughts about that? No one... I hope not. No, no, no, it's actually not. But I heard that it spreads at least. But the thing that's a bit funny is the dialect. I become very active once a year, around Christmas time. It's very common that people call from advertising agencies and I have to read ads for everything, with a really nice dialect.
Starting point is 00:03:43 And you are still in the spare commercial? Yes, I am. Take that classic. Always think of something good, and buy one in the spare. In the spare? Buy one in the spare. There is a spare. It's a bit off and a bit weird.
Starting point is 00:04:00 The way you say it. Buy one in the spare. Then you get interested. It Buy a spare. Now I'm interested. It's a wonderful job to have. Yes, it is. It's... I've been in the holiday bonus, it's still there. This will be the season start.
Starting point is 00:04:16 People are getting fed, of course, and it's nice that people want more podcasts. I've done a podcast with Jørnis Josef through the summer, which you have listened to. It will continue and this podcast will also go on. I love to talk. It's completely king. You are good at it. I have a bit of a block, of course.
Starting point is 00:04:42 That's exciting. I was on your home page, Gustav Nilsen still. Oh Jesus! Have you been there for a long time? What do you think the picture is? I look a bit younger, you know. Yes, because it's under… it's a bit under… I haven't been flared yet.
Starting point is 00:04:59 Is it? Under dry facts. Yes. How long ago did you write that? I actually think it was Christ Torjusen who wrote it in his time. Is that so? It's been so long. It's been so long. How is your father doing?
Starting point is 00:05:12 My father? Yes. Is everything going well? Yes, everything is going well. He's not dead or anything. That's good, because it could have been a bit hard if something had happened there. With his nice dialect and sweet humor he meets a wide group of people. His parodies are from our most famous and dear Alprøysen, Pjædøst-Olanden and Even Hellstrøm to his own father. Unfortunately, many know his voice, Torstein Nielsen.
Starting point is 00:05:38 Gustav's imitation is very similar. Let's hear from Farina. I'm looking forward to hearing from you. Dødgrøsla, you can't just sit there and wait. He's from Nord-Norway. He's been living in Toten all his life. Or at least since he was 20. So there's a good connection between Toten and Nord-Lenin. It's the same as my grandfather. He was from Nord-Lenin and moved to Oslo. He always left a phone answer. He would call me all the time.
Starting point is 00:06:09 I was nice to talk to my grandfather. We had a good relationship, but I sometimes couldn't. And sometimes there was a fucking atmosphere. And once I was on a vacation, I was at Vejholm, where family friends had a vacation house, and we had been like young people, and we were partying up there, and it became a good atmosphere, and we were fishing a lot of crabs. It had been picked up. Crabs, party. And he said, Hey Henrik, it's your grandfather calling, should I just say, listen to the mure, and fish crabs. And then he said, watch out for your dick. Did he say that?
Starting point is 00:07:01 Watch out for your dick. I don't know why I said that. Was he a cool guy? No, he never said those words to me. He said, your girl? And I said, don't get too much of that. How old were you? I was 17, 16, 17. 15, 16, 17. Something like that.
Starting point is 00:07:22 He was funny. Does he still live? He doesn that. He was a party. Is he still alive? He is not. He is violent. How long has he been in the Penal? I think it's been 10, 15 years. A legend guy. But it's very funny that you mentioned it on the net, because it was on your list.
Starting point is 00:07:44 As I wrote a few days ago, when I started… Have you written it? Yes, because on Monday I started working, because I came from a holiday. And it says, shine up the web page. It's a float. So I notice, this has been a float for maybe 15 years. Because I remember when I did a lot of events and stuff, and then it came from HR to present to me. Now we are going to meet an artisan, he comes from 2018, and I can read from the website, he said. And already then I felt like, oh, gross. I have felt the same way. I have had a… something that was written like this, when I went into like iStage and so on, I was probably 2, 3 and so on.
Starting point is 00:08:32 And then it was like that, he was talented, very focused on that, and very old programs, things I had been involved in and so on. And there is still something they are reading about, because it's out there. It doesn't get lost. They read about it. It's so out there, it's 10 years old. But what the hell should I say to you, Liszt? I'm so damn happy we talked about it before we started. This must have a podcast on the ear. That I want to find a house job. I want to find a job. I have the desire to find a job. To be able to just walk around and… It feels so incredibly nice.
Starting point is 00:09:11 It feels like an incredible joy to be able to do a few things at the same time as you go and enjoy it. Yes, because then you get a good atmosphere at home, while you get some input. It's beautiful. I think that's the point. What's your favorite housework, Lusse? What I like is, and that's why I came up with it, to have a to-do list, and just go through it. It can be small and big things, it can be to call Havslen, get the ball going, and then just be able to do, be able to kick the first pass, and then just wait for the fit to return.
Starting point is 00:09:47 Just quickly mail, hello, hello, hello, hello, I'm just setting up this contact here, because I have to get a new internet cable, and then out with it! And it's in the loop, the ball is yours, I have no more work for me until you have done your part. And then you sit and listen to podcasts until they ring? That's how I can just knock it out and just work through the to-do list and just sort the spices. I have actually put it out for a while now. That's a nice job. It's on the to-do list and it just slides down and down and I have bought a small hook, you know, Gustaf,
Starting point is 00:10:26 that I will pour over, and put oregano in it, and a label machine, and then, and then, oregano here. It's so much! But the aroma goes out, and then the dry spices, you know, so then you don't have that data stamp, so then can suddenly have 70 years old organs in there, right? That's why it's good with these boxes. I don't know, damn it. But the laundry room, it's a place that gets very overlooked. I think I have a laundry room that I probably had with me when I was in the first place in Oslo.
Starting point is 00:10:57 From the cat? Yes, probably. From when you moved for the first time? Yes, probably. It's a bit scary to think about. But I'm on the same round now. I took and opened, like the creation has pasta and everything else. And when I opened yesterday, there was some pine nuts. I thought, oh yes, it's good I'm going to make a chicken and stuff. I tasted the pine nuts and then I heard breaking me.
Starting point is 00:11:19 Because I tasted creation. Yes, because you had the pine nuts, right? Pine nuts that just sucked out everything from Skap. Are we on a completely different podcast now? Yes, you know what I want to say? I want to hear your studio list. Okay. I have a long studio list, which I will see what I have been able to do and what I haven't been able to do. It's from before the summer. Name sign, ring bell, check. It's just to put the name on the ring bell.
Starting point is 00:11:48 It took us a year to put our names on the ring bell. Name, message, some days and some dad stuff, color, Malta, boat before the test. Should I take it? No, I can't. No, okay. It's an end that's broken. Damn it. Have you talked to André now? No, with And It's a very bad one. Damn it. Have you talked to André now? No, he was the owner.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Is he the one who inspired you? He talked about the boat test he took? He took it now? No, he took it last year. He has been driving a boat all year? He has been driving a boat all year, but he just wanted to prove that he could. Oh, I see. Mastering feeling?
Starting point is 00:12:23 Yes, and he mastered it really well, that's why he talks a lot about it. I haven't talked about him, but I thought it would be nice to have it. Have a boat, can you dis-pon-er a boat? Yes. Paint the bedroom, check, get in the way of the other, it's not that fun. The emergency package. You are the one who should talk about it, but we can talk about it. I have.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Do you have the one who is going to talk about it, but we can talk about it. I have! Have you packed your things? Yes. Me, this is a kind of flood thing. If I had been a little richer and had a little more time than I have now, I have saved money, I have saved time, but I haven't had enough, then I would have been a prepper all the time, Gustaf. It speaks to me so much that you wouldn't believe it. And full of excitement. I was going to make a ball and everything.
Starting point is 00:13:10 But wait a minute, I have to admit that sometimes when I can't sleep at night, I lie down like this, and I think about when I can prep. So you're not alone with this. And I think very much, what happens if there is an old military man, so he got a Christmas present for two years ago. So it's standing in the bottom with nine liters of water or whatever it is on the edge. But if there is a war, should I sit in the basement and eat a cracker? Yes, that's the question. I don't know where the road goes. It feels like the Northland is the road to go. You have to have the first stop, when you are down there, and then you have a secret exit to a sort of... I've seen a little Batman cave, where the Glendewagen is standing. And it's paddled from Christmas to the antenna with... I don't with... with such a...
Starting point is 00:14:05 ...the fence and... I don't know. It won't be a zombie apocalypse. But it's fun to prepare for zombies. It's fun to prepare for it anyway. But it's something like a low budget preparation you're doing. What I'm saying is that if I had been damn rich, and look at it now, look at it now... It's not for sure that the earth is winning, but I think... I mean, the reason why Zuckerberg bought his eye now. The richest people buy their eyes. And they make themselves a doomsday grotto, Batman caves.
Starting point is 00:14:34 I understand them well. And of course, of course, it's like that. Elon Musk and Zuckerberg, and they are trying pull Trump out, because they give them advantages. And it's... But you know, the backside of the medallion is like, this can go... It's something bad with that top 1%. I understand them damn well. I would have bought it myself. I would have done it on that scale, of course. The more money, the more grandiose dupe stay prepping has become.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Is it because you have to have something that you almost always achieve in life, and then you start to get bored and start to prep? Is it a hobby? It is what it is. Isn't it like being a superfluous person? That you have all the basics covered. So then you start with the mess. Don't you think so? Yes, but sometimes you get the impression that you are the one who likes it the most. Not necessarily the richest.
Starting point is 00:15:37 In Norwegian society, if you see a documentary on TLC, there is a lot of Pepsi Max in the Doms' cabin and such. It's not just the ex-boyfriends who are rich, that's not it. But the rich, they enjoy it more. They enjoy it in a different way. I think, wouldn't you, there is a difference in having hamster and parmetic in the camping van, and building new things in the bunker. If you have botanical skills, you can build a small self-driving drive.
Starting point is 00:16:22 But you can add have that feeling. I am not good enough for this. I see the format. Have you seen the film Mars? It is not at that level. That you are so good that you can almost terraform a planet itself. But I see that it could be a fun project. Because we have it so good that we give up, we don't need religion. We give up. When people have it too good, they give up religion. When you need a substitute, and for many it becomes be the dumbest in the world. But it is within you to take on many things. For example, it is fun to think about how you should make a... I mean, to be a bit of a bond. I know this is just because I grew up on the
Starting point is 00:17:16 toten, because I am from the construction field. But there is something fascinating about making your own food. And in a crisis like this, you have to get your get food. I have thought a lot about this, for example during the war, people had to put a lot of effort in the bread, so they could not get enough food. It is so strange to think about how cold it is in Norway, even though it is cold most of the year, that people can't manage to get enough food.
Starting point is 00:17:45 I agree. You spent a lot of time thinking about that. It shouldn't be that difficult. I see the format that I should manage it quite well. But you have to be able to modernize the earth. I was in Malta now, and read some history about Malta. It was inhabited for many thousands of years ago. The Malts. But they had to retreat, they had to flee, because they had to get rid of all the land use.
Starting point is 00:18:11 They had a modern way of doing it. You destroy the earth, because you just grow and grow. You had to have a exchange of uses. Exchange of uses! They hadn't invented exchange of uses. They had to just, fuck, we have grown what we can, we can't do it anymore. So they moved away because they didn't know about it. Maybe it's a new knowledge. Okay, we will continue. I have to note something. I sat on the toilet instead. There are many thoughts, of course. And then I thought about this, this must... this must... to go blank for paper, publicly, you experience that sometimes in life. If you live a life, die, and then you can look back at how many times you went blank for paper, publicly,
Starting point is 00:18:58 then say that it is 15 times in your life. It's maybe a little. I don't know if it's a little or not. Can you remember how many times they have happened to you? I remember at least some times where it has happened, where it has been completely critical. I love to travel, I have travelled a lot, I would say. And then I have ended up in a lot of countries where toilet paper, this is so common. No. Waste. Or places where there is not much waste. Or this is completely destroyed.
Starting point is 00:19:27 Honestly, I remember very well, because I was in Sierra Leone, which is a place where no one is. They have between 44 000 visitors per year. The whole country, and it's as big a population as in Norway. It's the same as C CSE Vestal in the last week. There I was, in the beginning, with a co-operation project that I am in support of. Out in the country. You are in the country now?
Starting point is 00:19:54 Yes, yes, yes. I would like to... But I was far away in the countryside. And when I am in Africa, I meet some new bacteria, like the stomach. I got the worst diarrhea. At the same time, I was a little bit affected by the one who was on that trip. Bad combination, really. And then we were so far out on the countryside, which was never the case. And there, now it happens.
Starting point is 00:20:21 And then it was the worst outing I have seen in my life. And there was of course a piece of paper, it was not water, it was nothing. And it just fizzled, like, what do you do then? Then it's just to take off the box and use it as a kind of tool. Bit by bit. Bit by bit, yes. You can't just... You can't take the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:20:44 You can't take the whole thing. You just have to... But how do you attack that first... If it's a proper suck, the first blow, how do you attack that with just a little bit? You just have to start to scratch the shit out of it. There's no water. There was no water. There was nothing. No, right? And the underlying goal for you is to be so pure that you can go straight away and put it on this... Totally correct!
Starting point is 00:21:07 Then it's a problem. The goal is not just to be a little clean. No, you should be sitting in a small jeep four hours back from the hotel, where the exit is. And you should rather not sit there and smell a little... What are you doing? Because it's not appropriate to take several clothes. You don't have several texils you can use. and you shouldn't sit there and smell a little... What do you do? Because it's not appropriate to take multiple clothes. You don't have multiple texils you can use.
Starting point is 00:21:30 The cap, for example. Is that possible? No, it's difficult enough to tear such a box, I should say. But you can't get away from it. Was it like a bubble or was it more like... It was a bubble response. More technical. No, it was a bubble or was it more like a... It was bubble. More like a technical thing. No, it was bubble. So I remember that very well. I managed.
Starting point is 00:21:52 The advantage of being a little loose in the stomach is that it's a start-up work. It's actually easier to just burst out. And I remember very well once I had been in Thailand, and I had bought a pair of slings. You looked stupid. And what the slingsmith did, and found out afterwards, was that... You didn't take your food? No, everything is fat, just spilt out of you. You took everything from others, while the fat was just sent further.
Starting point is 00:22:27 And that was sent out through the ass. So you don't have to be in a small pantheid, and then the body only takes up everything else than fat? Yes, yes. Then it's completely insane. It's life-threatening. You have to have fat. Yes, but it's hot. You get everything in Thailand. You don't have to. You have to have fat when you don't have more fat reserves. But if you have that, you can do it well.
Starting point is 00:22:54 Yes, but this went well the first week. And on the plane home, I realized, now. And then there was Abu Dhabi Airport. And the fat was Abu Dhabi Airport. And it was just a great ride. And there were 50 muslim men washing their bodies in the shower. And it was a 10 meter queue. And then I saw someone coming out of the handgrip. I asked them to do the job and the same procedure. Oh, but the boxer. I'm a bit good at this now.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Here we go again! So after that I've always... I always went to Dagsdata and had an extra boxer in my bag. I think instead of Dorul I have a boxer in my bag. There is a lot more to do before you can do it and use one... You have to do that? To answer your question, I don't know if I'm up to 15 times, but these are the two I remember the most. Do you have a Spyledos at home? No, but next time I'll have one. Because you have been to many places in Asia and in the country with spilt water.
Starting point is 00:24:05 And even the bad spilt water is pretty good. Yes, it's absolutely beautiful. I thought of getting a real Japanese, or a Japanese, with air, full package. I have a friend who has it, but can you sit down and talk about it? What I'm thinking about is, I think I a sensor that develops intelligence in the dustbin. If the only task is to sit and control the dustbin and evaluate how much dust should be on the dustbin. Can you do a little sniff test? Yes, that it has some smell and sensors. I think you have spoiled it completely.
Starting point is 00:25:10 You dried it and maybe a little perfume dash. But it is pleasant at least. I have talked about how much I, I put so much in a single I have... After I got a baby, I have a whole table right by the toilet So I can put my own sink, which I put the baby's, you know Do you finish with a wet napkin? It happens, it happens that I don't do it Of course
Starting point is 00:25:43 I dry, do absolute rough work with regular paper, and then I take wet napkin, to the point where there are no traces of anything. It can't go in the toilet, of course. It goes in the toilet bowl. And then it's just to put on some paper paper to dry it, so it's perfect. Shall we take the scenario then? Yes. It's the scenario I'm most fond of, and I feel like it's become a part of the podcast. I don't feel like I'm getting tired of it, at least. It's a long text to read.
Starting point is 00:26:17 No, but keep going. But we do. I'm a bit excited. Because I've heard some episodes here and there, I'm a bit excited to have heard this scenario. Middle-aged scenario. Middle age scenario? Oh, how beautiful. You are being unprepared, sent back in time to peak middle age. The year is 1250, around 100 years before the plague makes its entry into Europe.
Starting point is 00:26:36 You suddenly enter the throne hall in a mighty castle, to the jist from the audience. Oh, my god. The guards go to the middle, it's just a presentation, it's very fun to watch that you just come in there and everyone is in a trap. The guard... Grip him! With your cap... What do you have on? Black or blue orla pants?
Starting point is 00:27:01 Yes, and then you have some logo on T-shirt. Would it have been a sight? Yes, it would have been very... But you would have thought, is it woven or what the hell is this? What is the material? They go to immediate arrest. But you get a chance to explain it to the king. The king is sceptical, but buys a bonus that you are from the future,
Starting point is 00:27:26 due to your remarkable clothing. The king invites you to Fortnite for 28 days to come up with a revolutionary invention to prove that you are actually from the future. If you fail, you are hanged for breaking into the castle. You get access to all the castle facilities and resources. There is also Smya,
Starting point is 00:27:42 the alchemist station, which I don't really understand what is. But you understand the game.ist station, which I don't really understand what it is, but we understand the thing. Yes, yes, we understand. The kitchen, the kitchen, etc. What do you do and what inventions have you been able to make or reproduce to prove your innocence? And here we can have more abstract concepts and physical inventions, and most of it you can get here. I mean… I long way to go. Yes, this is a wonderful scenario. Isn't it?
Starting point is 00:28:09 Yes, it's wonderful. Isn't it? There are of course many such premises, which is something I wonder about. The alchemist station, are there experts there? How good are they? Yes, there are several who have used manpower, which is at the station. So you are free to try it out, and I can be a judge. Because how much of a bond you have, to the extent that they want to help you.
Starting point is 00:28:40 So if you convince them, and they are part of the team… 1200 years? I have to admit, it's a bit vague for me, what kind of knowledge people have of 1200 years, but if you start with, for example, the absolutely most revolutionary, something I actually think I can recreate, is… The glitter? Yes, absolutely. But for example, something that is a weapon. Yes. An old-fashioned Oh, damn. Then I really want to keep my life.
Starting point is 00:29:17 When was it a I think the crud is before the year 2000 in China, but has it come to Europe then? No, I don't think so. These muscles there, those muscles, it wasn't before. 76, 76, you said 16, 17, you said 17. No, it's a bit of a shame, but I know the technology. Yes, well, crud, You can make a pot? No, I hope I have... You're going to find a pot there, is that what you're saying? I would have had a pot.
Starting point is 00:29:51 You would have had a pot. Because you can't make that. No, I can't make it. What is a pot? I don't know how to make a pot. But since the Chinese have it, can they order it? No, damn. No, that would. That's difficult. What should we say?
Starting point is 00:30:06 Okay, we can try. Let's say that when you say that, you know what? There is something called the Chinese. Have they had contact with the Chinese? The Chinese? Yes. Have you arranged the trade with the Chinese, you ask? Yes, we have.
Starting point is 00:30:21 When is Marco Polo going back to the East? You asked about that. Have you arranged the deal with Horshawitz? What are you wondering about? They have a problem with crud. Have you heard about rockets? They have a problem with crud. Can you order? Do you think you will get it in 28 days? No. You have to send in the order, and then they will accept the order, and then they will evaluate.
Starting point is 00:30:47 Should we send your ass? I don't think you get it on 28 days. And say you get it on the 28th day, then it's too late. What are you going to do with it today? Then I thought, it's like old-fashioned... Muscular muscles, I know how it is constructed. But you could just be a bastard who came from the West, and then you get the king to order a piece of and then just, here's the piece of meat. And then you just ask someone else to send the piece of meat, and here's the piece of meat.
Starting point is 00:31:17 No, no, but then we go to the next one. You said food. You said the alchemy station. And food, the kitchen and everything. The kitchen, you know. I could have made a good Bernese. My father. Yes! Bernese? Bernese. Bernese. That's what they don't have in the year 1200. Okay, go through, what do you need?
Starting point is 00:31:38 What you need is... Shallot. Shallot, that's what they have. Yes, but do you think they have shallot? No, they have that. Yes, but I think Charlotte leek, they have Charlotte leek? No, but something else that is onion-like. And they have white wine. Maybe ram's leek? Yes, maybe, but yes. But we have to assume that they have big buildings in the kitchen garden at Aetir Castle.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Because they are kings. Absolutely, totally. And they have white wine. And they have butter. I think so. Yes, they have. Or they know how to make a core butter. We have learned that now.
Starting point is 00:32:14 You can make it every year. And if you don't have that, then you can just give it there. Here is the butter. For an invention. Do you think butter is so nice? Yes, butter. For a invention. Do you think so? Do you think butter is immediately so nice? Yes, I think so. I agree with what I said.
Starting point is 00:32:31 When did butter come? When butter came. I think we have talked about it before in this segment. When butter came, right? We say that it came before 1250. That it had come. Butter was there. And then there is, and spices, of course.
Starting point is 00:32:46 There's herbs and stuff. It's like the monk. But what do you have? You should have... You should have chervil and estragon. Yes. A few estragon and I'm happy. Yes.
Starting point is 00:32:58 Hahaha! But imagine that... I mean... Have you seen... I don't have chervil. No, but I thought... I care how you made a barnese if you don't have a shovel. Take my life. Kill me now. What a fucking snitch. Don't you have a shovel? Have you seen… It's a Swedish show called Historieheterne. Have you seen anything?
Starting point is 00:33:23 No. Beautiful show. Yes. It is someone who has eaten through history, food history. Such food they had in the 14th century, 15th century, 16th century. So poor, rich and more or less different. And there are completely insane food retromers. It is so hot, some of the old food. Oh, damn. So it's like's just plain beef.
Starting point is 00:33:47 Because it goes in the cow. The cow has some. Just think about it. Just a good piece of pasta with a little salt and this... The bale. I think I would have done the sausage. Maybe some good steaming vegetables on the side. I'm not going to say it's difficult to say that he's king,
Starting point is 00:34:11 but I've learned a lot about eggshells and stuff. We need eggs, of course they have that. Eggplants. Do you think they care about the pig? Do you think they just want to use their egg white? It's not a burden to throw egg white in the egg white. In that way? Can you whip up a small egg dosage-like version?
Starting point is 00:34:31 For dessert, maybe? Yes. But sugar... When you learn to refine sugar, it's much worse, of course. But do you need sugar to make an egg dosage? Or can you use honey? I think it's honey Yes
Starting point is 00:34:48 To make it sweet? Yes, so sprinkle some honey and maybe it will be popular You have to say, is it too much to ask for sugar from this Nisse building? But is there any kind of sweetness? Honey or what the hell do you have? Yes, we have honey. But I almost didn't think they had sweet food at that time. It was just the teeth and stuff. Yes, but it was just that we could whip up something with egg whites and sweeten it.
Starting point is 00:35:19 I don't think that's a high requirement for desserts. I think it's been... maybe some berries and stuff. Oh, fuck. Imagine you're going to enjoy this. This will take 28 days. Give me two hours. I don't need... I don't need 28 days. That's enough.
Starting point is 00:35:36 That's nothing to be said. 28 days? Give me four hours, and then I'll take... I'll make a beef and berries for you, friend. And maybe a little dessert. Maybe I'll make a beef and bear for you, buddy. And maybe a little dessert. Maybe I use the egg white to show you a little dessert. So, if you say so, say 3 hours. I would be impressed.
Starting point is 00:35:56 I think just the fact that you say 28 days, fuck off, give me just a few hours. Send me to the kitchen. I hear that it was a bad idea than the one packed from China. I think so. It's very, very good. And I think this one can live a long time. This one is beautiful. Who was it that sent it in? This is Lasse Brunewald who sent it in. I got it from, or if he wrote it himself, or I don't know. But there are some scenarios that go in the right direction. But this one, I don't know, is really nice. This is a kind of thought experiment that I have been tormented from my own part as well.
Starting point is 00:36:38 I have thought about how it would have been if I had sent it back, or if I had grown up as a viking, how would my life have been? Have you thought about it? A lot. I am… Just that one. What were you going to say? I am at 1.88, so I am half-high. So I would have been a bit above a lot of vikings.
Starting point is 00:37:04 But if you look at my. But I am very violent. But could you work with them? I could work with them. Do you train a lot? No, I did it a little before. So you have the ability to build on muscles? I have, but I get out of it. How much did they have? That I thought a lot about. I know how to get muscles. I don't know how they got muscles before.
Starting point is 00:37:27 Was it only by hitting and stabbing people? I had Fritz Ånes last summer. What do you think he chose in that middle-aged scenario? He was going to make a bench and train for the 20th king in 8-20 days. That was ambitious. Yes, you heard the episode. It was fun. No, I think about that, how incredible... Then you grow up with a completely different mentality and culture around fighting and war, right?
Starting point is 00:38:00 But even then, Norway's enough to go to war. And so on. Damn it! Out there in the bloodbath with swords and screaming and internal violence that runs out of people and... I don't remember much of Game of Thrones, but that fight scene in the last season. There are big hits. People just get excited and stuff. I'm a little older now, so I'm starting to get interested in history. So some of those strikes that were down in Europe in the 1600s,
Starting point is 00:38:32 there are 200,000 involved. And you almost don't know who are friends and who are enemies. You just go and beat and chop everything you see around you. In a desperate fight for survival, you just kick the same. Imagine a situation like that. You see around you, in a desperate fight for survival, you're just as tired. Imagine a situation like that. It's so little for me. Yes, damn it. But I would have at least made sure that I was prepared as well as possible.
Starting point is 00:38:54 I would have taken this training seriously. I would have not taken sword training seriously. I would not have taken sword training seriously. No, not exactly. I was thinking, if you... I'm wondering, do you get so good? Because you can be so good that no one gets into you with the sword, but then there are those fucking bows, you know?
Starting point is 00:39:11 Suddenly she has a arrow in both the arm and the shoulder and has to drive around. Then it goes wrong. Yes, yes. But I have thought a lot about that scenario there It was probably a bit of a troubadour. Yes, it was. You played Lut in a corner. Have you been to Lutten's concert before? No, never.
Starting point is 00:39:37 I had a teacher at Romerike Folketskola. He was a f***ing Lutten. You know that old f***ing guy? He sat with a Lutten and had Lutten concerts. Steinar. Was it nice? Very nice. It's the sound of the middle ages. Lutten? That's a middle age scenario, you are in the throne room and you are like, LUT, do you have that? We have that, we are so tired of LUT. We have to find something better than that.
Starting point is 00:40:12 I don't think so. You could have sung a bit differently, you could have made a bit different songs. I can play the guitar and bass and such, so I could have... If you had sung a bit more like a guitar, I could have probably found a have found a way to make some plaits or something. We are done with it. We are done with it. But I am just pleased to be there. Do you have anything on your mind?
Starting point is 00:40:37 Do you come here with anything? I don't know, I am here to sell something. No? Do you have any thoughts or ideas? Do you have any thoughts or ideas? Have you had any ideas? Yes, you are breathing hard, because I was awake, I was a bit nervous about what I was going to do today, because I was awake almost all night. Oh, is that so? Yes, because I paint.
Starting point is 00:40:57 Yes, I know. I am going to have an exhibition in a few months. I have been at art school for a few years, and now it's starting to get a bit serious. And then I started eating a bit late yesterday, it's a classic, you're busy eating and then the clock is too early, and then you try to go to bed, and then it's like, it's like, you know what you write too, or a show, that it's so difficult to get the machinery to stop. I was awake and heard someone breathing in and out of the hall. I heard that the workers had come to work early.
Starting point is 00:41:34 But then I fell asleep, I would say. But in any case, they paint and arrange... And order… it's a bit special. I think a lot about this with who is this identity that I have. I have been a comedian for many years. Now I'm becoming a painter. What do I feel? How big of a part of it is your identity as a comedian? It's interesting that you mention this, I think a lot about it. I think everyone thinks about it. You feel like you have a certain control over who you are, and then sometimes you stop completely. Because you are so much out there, and show your face, and have opinions there. I don't think... How much comical I am. I try to put it aside sometimes.
Starting point is 00:42:32 What? You do? Yes, I like to have fun. I can joke and joke and laugh and talk shit. But that is more of a part of me than being comical. Yes, it's just the way you are. Yes, I think so. But I do... My every day can go something bad, but I rarely wake up and let it go completely. I'm pretty good at putting it aside.
Starting point is 00:42:56 And during the summer I take it almost completely free. I manage to put it away, and then I just think about everything else. Yes, I do that and I understand when I'm on vacation, and some of those who do it very attractively have holidays, and that I actually manage to put it away. And I have had a change in my career in many ways. What I have also thought about is that your listeners are a bit young. It's impossible.
Starting point is 00:43:26 Not just the young ones? No, no. Because many people are interested in coming to 50-60 year olds birthday party. Oh, I see. That's nice. But I started with Stand Up when I was 24. And I have actually lived off it since then. And especially in my 30s, I was completely... I had done something completely different, just made new shows and went to event jobs. And it was a bit like that in the 40s.
Starting point is 00:44:01 But then I have kind of like, oh, maybe it was enough of the event work on me. Yes, it gets done with you. And then, where am I supposed to be? Yes, this is with identity, and it has to work, when it works with me all the time, it becomes a bit like cocoa, so it has been important for me to have a little vacation. I think it is very important to do some other things. It is very easy to get caught in that bubble. And often the only thing that you are involved in is other, and then it's all about that. And why do you get the new thoughts from then, and I thought a lot about that. I tried to distance myself a bit from when I started, I had an old friend in my bed,
Starting point is 00:44:57 and I was a lot with them when I wasn't at work. I have done that all the way, it has been quite important. Yes, it has been important for me too, and especially because Dom is my childhood friends, who are still in the same gang, and travel on boy trips, and have daily contact with strangers and so on. But Dom has a different kind of humor, and is very nice to people, so I have picked up a lot from them. But you still do the biggest Norwegian reviews. Yes, we have... We have been going as a summer show, Urbane Totninger. We started 17-18 years ago. And now we've been playing for the last few years.
Starting point is 00:45:47 But last year I did a summer show. I had a break for the first time, away from Corona, for 18 years. What do you paint? I like to paint my friends a lot. Portraits? Yes, a lot of portraits. Should I show you a picture? Should I show you if you recognize it? Yes, sure.
Starting point is 00:46:07 Then we'll see. This is a picture. It's a picture of the leather a bit in the background. Can you see it? Terje's brother. You can see it. It's Terje. Full sick in Thailand. Yes, fine. I see it.
Starting point is 00:46:19 It's a bit like, what should I say, it's cool as hell. With a little buttump around the shoulder, yes. And a real, ugly, ugly girl behind you. No, it was just a random tie-dye. Oh, really? Yes. I can show you one more. What can I say about that?
Starting point is 00:46:41 It's a portrait with a little... I can't do anything. Artistic language, what should I call it? No, it's… Abstract realism? Realism and abstract combined? Yes, I like paintings where you can see who it is at once. Yes. Like you can see who this is, for example. This is Hellstrøm, damn, that's cool.
Starting point is 00:47:01 You can see very clearly that it's Hellstrøm. Damn, I like that. Yes,strøm. This is just as good. This is just as good. I am a bit technical, so it is possible to see who it is. I couldn't draw, I struggle so hard with drawing, that if I had stood for my life, I couldn't draw it. If I had just drawn, I thought a lot about it, draw a good horse. Or you die.
Starting point is 00:47:37 Then it would have been that stupid from the side, with a bare leg and... Of course. I couldn't start making a... I don't have the skills to start making the front horse. I can't. I don't know how a horse looks in the face. I don't know. It's so late, the horse is too small. The horse is better.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Okay, a lot of talking now. I'm going to take my family to the airport. Because if it's not like that, my dad is going to get me a little Osterheld. Oh, you say that? It will be really nice. You and your dad are good friends, or what is the relationship like? With my dad? Yes.
Starting point is 00:48:22 What did I say? I'm not going to hang out with him now. You're not going to hang out with him? I called myself dad. Oh, I see. My family is leaving, and dad is going to enjoy Oslo. And it sounds like... And what my dad is going to do. It sounds like your dad is going to visit, right?
Starting point is 00:48:35 Yes, that's very good for my dad. And... Great. But I don't think I'm going to out with my mom or dad this weekend. It's a league start and it's a bit different. A little wedding on Saturday and it will be nice. I understand. Will it be a bit free? It will be the last part of the summer and then it will start next week.
Starting point is 00:49:02 But I have to tell you a story. Yes. We have a house, me and the lady. There are two doors into the house. The one door has like... I have never used the one door. I thought I had not tried to open the other door. And then we had registered that every time we went into the house, things were moved in a strange way, almost in an unnatural way.
Starting point is 00:49:40 So it grew in us that either there is someone who has access to one door, and who is moving things, and who is sleeping there, or doing something, or maybe a crazy person, who is there, and we started to get into this, and I never believed in supernaturalness, but I almost just had to, but damn, if it is, if I get it black on the surface, if I get evidence, then I believe in it. The problem has been that I have not seen any evidence. There is never someone who has managed to come up with evidence in the supernatural. But okay, maybe it's the ghost that is there. Damn, we have struggled a lot with this. And didn't you dare, when we had to go down together and so on? You felt it was so real?
Starting point is 00:50:26 Yes, we went down together there. Yes. And then, every time we have gone into the house together, I have stood and locked up this thing here, and went in the door to the left. Then Oda will open the house, and then she will go to the other door. So she uses the door to the right, and I use the door to the left. So what we realize is that we have opened each door, so we have moved the things that are in front of the door, to get in, every time. So we have been the ghost, the unknown every time? It's unbelievable!
Starting point is 00:51:05 It's completely stupid! It's like a movie scene, almost like a review. Yes, that's it. It's a farce. Yes, it's a farce. And damn, and before we had to laugh our asses off, but we had seen a message to the authorities and such. And we have to check this out. I have two episodes here now that I almost have to take.
Starting point is 00:51:30 One is about living. I live in the middle of Oslo. Not very far from a hospice. Something that is perhaps a bit prejudiced, but I assume that it is one of the reasons that there have been some visits to the basement. And I've had some interruptions before. But last summer I came into the basement and felt that someone was not quite right. And then I came over to my room. There the door had locked. And then it was pulled out over some things.
Starting point is 00:52:03 And then I saw around the corner from my house, there was someone who had knocked down, there were several sprigs and... I didn't understand what was going on there. But then they had, either one or two, or how many were there, had taken out wine, because I have a little wine in the cellar, and they had taken out bottles and put them on the side where they were supposed to stand,
Starting point is 00:52:31 but nothing was left. So I called, I couldn't understand it, I only took one sleeping bag, and I was sure they had it lying there at night, and I called my friend, I had a break, there were a lot of sprays, but nothing... No, there is one who has some experience with that. Heroin and wine, they work together. You spray. That was a new knowledge for me. Did you know that? No, I didn't know that. But it's very fun. If it had been a good combo, it would have disappeared.
Starting point is 00:53:07 It would have been so damn good. Fascinating, you would have just looked at it, like, hmm, interesting bottle and sat in it. But now, yes, in addition to over, of course, I have a very... It's actually a little long story, but I think it's worth it. We'll take it. And it's like, I have a friend who... First of all, I live in a classic residential apartment in Oslo, which is 3,300 floors, a bit of a mess. And in the end, inside the bedroom, there's a 10 meter long hallway.
Starting point is 00:53:40 10 meters? It's 10 meters! It's as long as the sink. Some people have it? Yes. Yes, 10 meters? 10 meters! I'm so tall as a rocker! Some people have it? Yes, 10 meters at a time. Yes, but I would say 8 meters. It was long. It sounded good. I thought I would turn off the
Starting point is 00:53:56 right next to the bedroom that time, to make a walk-in closet from the bedroom. That's a bit fancy. That's a bit of a back-up. And then I have a friend who is, we call her a ghost sister, because she has supernatural powers. You know, a lady who had an English school, I don't remember her name. Yes, she is a blonde lady.
Starting point is 00:54:20 One day he went to call him and she stopped him and said, ''You know that you have a special gift?'' ''Yes, I knew it.'' And that's how it is all the way. Meet a little friend and she... It heals each other. Yes, she... Yes, very. And he has so many real ghost stories that are like...
Starting point is 00:54:42 When he tells, I love it and it is very credible. And then he had been visiting and then I asked, do you see anything? Yes, yes, I see, it is an old house, it is from 1885. Yes, yes, there is a lady who is walking back and forth in your corridor. She is like this and like that and looks like this and like that. It's not that she is not happy with it, but she goes there and… What does she say more about what she does? No, she… Was she fainting with the stethoscope? No, she goes back and forth. She has lived there before, but is a little bit scared.
Starting point is 00:55:20 But okay, he has told a story and I have hit calm about it. He told me what it was called. Gerde. Gerde. Because then she greets him through the dimensions, and says, hello, Gerde here, and Lars here, okay. So there is a kind of connection there. But this one we have had a lot of fun with. And I don't care about having a guide who rushes back in the hall. But the first time my girlfriend's mom is visiting, she is also a bit like that, a bit special.
Starting point is 00:55:56 And the first time she is visiting, she goes to the bathroom in the hall, and then comes back and says, yes, the lady who is walking in the hallway, do you pay her any rent? I'm not sure. And then we could name her? No, but she noticed that it was a lady who is, okay, two stories, and then it only takes a couple of weeks, then we have a meeting yesterday, and then she lives on the floor, right above,
Starting point is 00:56:24 which is completely identical to the other. She is visiting me downstairs, and when she gets new visitors, she likes to walk around the house. I have met painters that I have met, and it's a bit fun to show off. So we come down the hallway, and then I suddenly say, Oh, this is so weird, she says. Because I keep dreaming at night, that I keep walking back and forth here in your walk. No, but damn it. I have to walk so far, she says. Yes, but damn it. It's special.
Starting point is 00:56:55 Yes, it's special. I have been interested in this supernatural thing before. And as an old man, a kind of a grumpy tattooist and such, I don't have… To believe it, you have to be flexible in order to be true, and show the truth in a way. If you are very flexible in order to be true, then you will most likely see a lot, if not completely. And then I got a little interested in, is there proof, because there is someone who can prove it. Because you have seen, like, the power of the spirit, and things are being moved every day, the Swedish TV. Okay, but if you put up a camera, you have to be able to see that it moves. There is someone called James Randy Foundation. The old fraud artist, the guy who died a few years ago.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Yes, that's right. I've heard about him. He set up a fund and ran tests where supernatural people could come and prove their abilities to get a million dollars if they managed it. And this has been going on for many, many years and the amount has increased. And this is the lab where people will show that they can do this. Those who run the lab, they want that someone will manage it. It's not like they're hoping that it won't work. They just want to... And then no one has make it. It's not like they're hoping it won't work. They just want to...
Starting point is 00:58:25 And then no one has made it. It's crazy. But I'm not so stubborn anymore. There's a lot between heaven and earth that you don't understand. But does it have to be humans? Or is it something you notice something and then you continue to make stories and pictures and make it more recognizable for us. We have done this every year in the regions, everything is projections of ourselves in a way. I am skeptical, I don't believe in ghosts, but I think it's fun to play with it when it comes to such occasions. But when you went from Lille Bendris to the dream stuff, it became the inception thing.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Where you meet in a dream dimension. Yes, that was what I thought was a bit fascinating. But what is the name of her? Heetungard? That was the thing that I found fascinating. And she was... What's the name of her? No, it would have been beautiful. But this is how I spend my time, and I'm busy with ghosts. But at the same time, as I notice, even though I'm skeptical and not concerned about it, there are videos on YouTube that show the most haunted house in the world, that have made a lot of videos of things moving and so on. I can't help but look at it.
Starting point is 00:59:56 I can't help but be amazed by this kind of superstition. But the fact that there was a woman who was a girl who walked around there, you let yourself be convinced of that. Yes, first I thought it was funny. You didn't care much, but you thought, okay, there is a ghost here who is a girl. And what else can be here then? What does she see you? Don't you think about sexual activity? If you do it with others or alone? No, I don't think about anything. Do you light it? Special fetish?
Starting point is 01:00:37 I have thought about it, but... To be gay? Do you think she is gay to see this? It's completely spectacular. I always thought that if you believe in God and that your closest ones will see you and are with you, I never believed in that. I don't understand how you manage to take a break or find yourself in quiet, that's what I've always wondered about. No, I mean, I can think of a few hundred years ago, I thought that people still had more shame than they have today. Today people give a fuck. They give a fuck.
Starting point is 01:01:19 But if I was a little Christian before, I felt that now all the forefathers saw you. It was much easier before and the upper class, because the church said you are not allowed to do that, and you are not allowed to do that, and God sees you. You are seen, you are awakened every time. 1984, that Orwell book, is a bit like you are awakened by your big brother. You can interpret it as a… It is a bit like God works as well. And God is a constructed entity that has been created through man to control whether it is conscious or unconscious. That is my thought. So, the fact that they with power take one kind of divine command that sees all the work they do,
Starting point is 01:02:13 that is so powerful. So, when you are convinced that you have a God who sees what you do, and you are convinced that it is not allowed, it is not allowed to take a seat, then you don't do that either. Then you feel a huge shame. Imagine how difficult it was to take a seat before. Damn, shame is so bad.
Starting point is 01:02:35 But concrete things I read the other day, which I thought were a bit... ...to be seen. In what you say that Gardin is home, you have always thought that you are alone. It is a small chance that the previous owners have bugged and left them. But when you think of hotel rooms, you can sometimes get a bit annoyed. It can happen that someone has put in a small... At least if you take Airbnb. You have the old one with eyes in the painting.
Starting point is 01:03:07 But what have some people found out? If you have a router in a room, you can send signals in practice, the sending signals, like an echo-lode or... An echo-lode? Yes, or... You can make... A smoke machine, so you can get a very clear picture of yourself. But you can get a very clear picture that you see the activity. Yes, that's what I'm thinking.
Starting point is 01:03:42 It's not going to be full HD. It's very clear what you're doing. Yes, but it's going to be a good paranoid before you start thinking about it. But it's interesting that it's actually possible. If someone really wants it. But I thought, there's a reason why people talk about this with robot vacuum cleaners and Chinese technology. It's open, they want to... they do all the shit they can, so they can both see and hear you. Are you on TikTok? No.
Starting point is 01:04:20 I am there, but I am not there. I am not on TikTok, because I am the first one to want to spend more time on that. But the fact that you have to say yes to that they should be able to pull you 100% on everything you do. I think I have to. I have to get my family play. Yes, I heard that in a very paranoid way, but for that I feel that it is not me, but at the same time I think it is okay to... I think most people think about these things, without it affecting us completely,
Starting point is 01:04:57 but I think about it sometimes. And then I think, I could talk a lot about everything possible here, really. It's damn nice that you came. It's so nice. It's nice to have you. Thank you for listening. We are in the process again. The season is in the process.
Starting point is 01:05:10 It will be a beautiful autumn there. I'm looking forward to it. And when your show is over, it's probably the same time I have a show at Jøvik, at least. Yes, of course. So then you can actually combine it. First you can go and watch my shows, then you can watch your show afterwards. This will be fantastic. And what date is it?
Starting point is 01:05:21 I can't wait. It's the 12th of... No, I mean, the 12th of June. Yes, absolutely. So you can combine it. First you can go and watch my show, and then you can watch your show. This will be fantastic. And what date is it? It's October 12th. October 12th. So it's both if you want to and are from the area. I think it's half a liter from Jørvik. Yes, I think so. And it's so funny to watch it, so I can only say that I recommend it.
Starting point is 01:05:46 Thank you for the talk. And we'll talk. Bye!

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