Fladseth - #208 - Isak Noor

Episode Date: September 20, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You know what? We're just saying it like that. We're on. We're on. It's not happening. Isak Nor, your old bastard. Yes, now I'm starting to get old. How old are you now? 31. Lost my hair, you know. I've never seen you with hair.
Starting point is 00:00:13 The moon came. I've never seen you with hair. I took a tattoo during Covid on my head. I had Afro. I thought why not just take it on my head? No one will see it. Six months later, the moon. You have to go and see it. You have to see the first drawings.
Starting point is 00:00:27 If you're going to take such a big break, you have to see the first skull drawings. I'm in danger of getting a skull here. Damn, now I just have to own those damn tattoos. Look at your head. Have you taken it away? The tattoos? No. No, I have to put them on when I do some acting. But they are really ugly. Oh, this one on the side. A kind of red flower. Which I have drawn myself. That I drew myself.
Starting point is 00:00:46 Behind the ear. I like to say that you have taken the back way into Showbiz. I couldn't agree more. I couldn't agree more. For me, I have known you for many years. For me, you are a friend of Jørnis Josef.
Starting point is 00:01:04 Yes, I am. And suddenly it was Kamp Kulinaris and Fahlens Oldomor. Where did that come from? Are there any contacts? Yes, it's just been very random. Every time it's been that I've been in town and I've met a producer and he's like, hey, you would have been perfect on that show. And I'm like, hey, hit me up. So I've been a bit of an asterisk, you know her.
Starting point is 00:01:27 She was the one who pitched me into Camp Clunaris, and suddenly I was there with Trude. And me, we haven't had sex, even though Jørnis loves me. But Mær, you have to take it easy, I haven't seen this. I can't do it. I have some guilty pressure in reality. It can come back to you. But who do you think it was? Did the devil think it was?
Starting point is 00:01:51 The devil? Do you have any rumors that you were right? Yes, unfortunately I do. And the other day she sent me a message. The same day that someone asked if you actually have a pure devil in your mind. So I was like, no, it's just Jørnn who loves to report it on his stand-up shows. So I get a message from Trudeau. The first thing I think is not to tell me that I've come to her now.
Starting point is 00:02:09 That she says you. And why does the news say that we are? Luckily that's not what she asked. I thought it was a red lady. She's a real machine. She's from the same city or town as... And I know her from my grandfather. And far up in the north, Melby.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Does he have a pure? My he been a part of it? My grandfather has been a part of it, yes. Her? No, I don't think so. I don't know. We didn't ask her. I have a role in it. Yes.
Starting point is 00:02:32 She was great. And she was good too. Very good. Or you were good. That was good. I, Jørnis, have been preparing myself. I will be right back. This will be my third podcast today.
Starting point is 00:02:40 You are hot. Today we have wine. I have a toast to the two of you. Cheers. Cheers. We will be back early podcast today. You are warm. Today we have wine. I've had two before. Cheers. We're going back down to Santa Barbara County. In California, Pinot and Bon Climat. I've heard it several times. It's really good.
Starting point is 00:03:00 You don't hate how it drinks over your mouth now? No, absolutely not. It's special food. Jørn is a little bit of a pressure. He has that? Happy ladies, you haven't come from anywhere. And you have some to come with. Yes, yes, yes. You can say I'm a little too optimistic, at least.
Starting point is 00:03:23 Should we come back to that? Is it too early to... Oh my god, ladies talk. I try a lot, to put it that way. I'm out there. We'll take it now. What do you like? I haven't heard that you've been on some sex podcasts or something. Yes, I have. I've been... Høvle Øver, that's Marta and Levista's podcast. And there I was excluded. So completely unnecessary. There one asking. People didn't want to go there. I'm afraid you haven't been there, because you don't want to. I don't want to open up.
Starting point is 00:03:52 Because people thought she was asking questions. No, not with me. It was just me who was talking. No one was asking me. I'm against 69 and I'm just a babb. You've got a little podcast anxiety after that. It's a lot of small things in the background. We all get into things that you don't care about. Yes, I did a little bit because I was at home in Gusjett with my family and had dinner.
Starting point is 00:04:16 And my sister had put out a picture series with a lot of skin. And I was like, are you so you sure you are a beautiful lady? You need to be so sexy. And she was like, what are you talking about? You are talking about that you love to eat. And I was like, wow, my mom is Somali. So then, yes, she was not so happy with that. And she is a practicing Muslim. Because I thought of that name. Isn't Isaac a very biblical name?
Starting point is 00:04:45 Yes, but it should be said that my real name is Isaac. So my mom doesn't say Isaac. It's I-S-A-A-C-Q. But how do you pronounce it? I-S-A-K. Because my grandmother heard my mom say Isaac, and she wrote I-S-A-K. No, I shouldn't have called it ISAK. I'm fucking happy about it. I'm so happy. I'm fucking happy to take it. It's good when you're going to work as a phone seller. Yes, then it's great to be able to exchange. I actually exchanged.
Starting point is 00:05:13 I'm Marius Henriksen from Kanal Digital. That's very nice. I talked a lot with Jørnis about it. Jonas Andersen is called Jørnis. I remember that when we worked together. It's not bad. No, it's so simple. He's a fucking good seller. He should have it. I'll just forget it. Don't forget it. I have a show going on.
Starting point is 00:05:30 This podcast will be released on Friday, September 20th. And then I will... Are you also from Skén? Are you going to Ipsen House? Yes. Eyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy And to Ipsen House. And it's today when it's released. Damn! And it's... Is it yours? There are some tickets left. I hope it will be sold out. Yes, it has to be. But if...
Starting point is 00:05:51 Is it half the band or flat? No, this is new. Solar Shock. Low culture. Low culture! And after Ipsen House in the scene, there is a little break. I'm actually going to... No, it can be taken later. I'm going on a blue tour or something. I feel like people are saying that they're actually going on a reality show. No, I'm not going.
Starting point is 00:06:11 But next is October 10, Latter. I'm going to Latter on October 10, October 17, October 24! So that will probably be the last round in Oslo. I'll buy tickets. And then there's Hamar and Jøvik and Asim. Tickets at henrikfladeset.no. Buy something for fuck's sake. It's nice to have your own advertising. It's just fucking nice. I've never been so good at such things.
Starting point is 00:06:35 And then I've just made a habit. Yes, just put it in the course of the podcast. I walk around in Norwegian cities and get met by a lot of people who have never heard of my show. They even point at their ears, that is, I hear on the podcast in Now, How's My Speak. And still don't know. And then we just stop and say, I heard that you're coming tonight, what do you mean tonight? I haven't got it.
Starting point is 00:07:00 How does it work? So I try to say as often as possible, so that it sells well well, but there are some places that don't sell well and are annoying. You want it out. I have my own show now, the most I have sold is maybe 25 tickets. But it comes, man. It's a rising. It goes up. What's the name? Storytime. 4th of October. Now I got to say that.
Starting point is 00:07:26 Then you sit in the gym chair. Like Cosby the last year. And tell stories about pigs. He... What should I say... Yes, blåtur is a very loaded term. Because it's so... Harry of course, blåtur. You think it's Latvia, it's Riga. Yes, that's what very heavy term. Because they have a blue tower, and you think that it's Latvia, and Riga.
Starting point is 00:07:47 That's what I think first. I am... These are old friends. They have already had one such trip, which almost ended in total scandal. I, and I want to say fortunately, didn't have the opportunity to be there. But what happened was that... I think they ended up in Transylvania, a crazy, dragon-like country. And they were supposed to go through some forest and some hell. They hadn't done any research.
Starting point is 00:08:15 It was more like a rain plan. It got dark. And then it turned out that we are in one of the closest pack of bear areas in the world. They saw bears and shit. So they were in danger of being eaten by a bear. I say, I'm not going to be near the bear. I'm not going to be near the snow. It's going to be eliminated. Better than a hard trip to Riga, that's what I thought.
Starting point is 00:08:40 And it was like, damn, drive over there. But now there is another's responsible for the tour. And he has promised to make it more fun. But it will be the same. I got a letter yesterday. With a red stamp. From a secret organization. It's Escape Room. We're going to some country.
Starting point is 00:09:01 And we're going to pack easily. We need a duffel bag. But are you in character? Don't say you are pulling it so much. I hope so, and I hope not. Yes, because of a wig on our way. Because we are another guy on our way. I have told you several times when I was away from the ball in Amsterdam,
Starting point is 00:09:21 and was going to a skateboarding studio with actors. No, because I have to hear that. I can take it fast, I have taken it before. I would have been playing ball in Amsterdam and would have been in a scape room with actors. No, I have to hear that. I can take it fast, I have already taken it. I am not good at rick-o-wid, I can say that. I will be. When in Rome. You have to be there. We are in a parking house, and we get messages, sms, go there and there, find a car with this registration number.
Starting point is 00:09:46 I'm completely blown away. And then we find a car and then... And then we have to find the name of the cover, our cover operation, who is it? And then we go into an art museum. So then we find out that we are from the National Gallery, and this is Jonsson. And he is one of the most distant people, but he still thanks God for being very distant. A doctor for everyone. He can help himself if he wants to. He was a kind of a person of faith, so we banged on a big secret door. And we understood that it's an unworthy door.
Starting point is 00:10:27 And then a guard comes out, and it's very difficult to see if she's in the game or not. Or if we've made mistakes. We don't even know which door we were supposed to open. A very good escape room, so far. And already there, my friend is standing, and he's so far away. I see him as a little kid, with such a big jacket. And so far away. And then it's so very polite and just... And then he sticks out his hand. I am Mr. Johnson. And then I just have to throw myself around the corner to not get caught in the way. Then you're on the ground. And then, beyond that, I have said it before, so I can go to the end.
Starting point is 00:11:07 We get through it, you manage to deal with a distance when you are on some tasks. And there are some AI stuff and voices that are AI-controlled, and suddenly the alarm goes off and then guards come in, like the players, playing guards with lighters and stuff. Hello! and then guards come in, like actors, actors with light in their lungs, and we go around our homes, and then we are taken by these guards, or they take us into a closed room, and then they act. These are not the best actors in Amstånd. No, they are not. And I am...
Starting point is 00:11:41 And then I see a picture of a girl, because it was supposed to be a person in the office. And then I say, is that your daughter on the shelf? It would be a shame if something happened to her. And then it was. I said something like that at the beginning, that she was beautiful, but then I said, it's too funny and too... You're taking it too seriously, you're saying that. How serious can you be? No, it was very funny. Because both times it was too funny, so you just had to restart the script. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:12:17 But it was of course very funny. Now we're going on a real trip with backpacks and backpacks. We are going to pack light and I can't weigh more than 110 kilos, because then I will die, because there will probably be some condoms or something. Yes, you don't have to drink a lot of vodka, so it will be light for you. So it is... I like it, but I'm not an adventurer. I like comfort. Are you an adventurer or are you a comfort man? Now lately I have become a bit of an adventurer. I take a backpack and walk across the East.
Starting point is 00:12:47 But do you take chances? Because we can divide the human race into two categories. You have all animals. The adventurers and those who have to keep going. Steadily edgy. Steadily edgy, that's what I'm saying. Yes, because the adventurers... Like if there were edgy cups in the game. You know that the smartest Eddekopperico you never see. They are inside the walls. But the dumb ones are the adventurers. They also lead the species further, while they are jumping, but they also die a lot on the way.
Starting point is 00:13:15 And I don't want to be the one who... I don't need either. Let's just stand here and make a child. Make a child? We can do that. Making children? That's possible. That's an adventure. Cheers. Do you think I'm in the wrong place in an interview? No, it's just chatting. I have to contribute a bit.
Starting point is 00:13:38 I can't have a style every time. You talked about that you were quite distant, and I couldn't relate to that, because I'm always distant. Like now, I'm distant. But now I have to be there. I totally agree with you. I like talking to people, and it's good when people say that I'm shy and own it. But if you're sitting there and pretend nothing, then you're shooting yourself in the foot. But now you had something really good to wait for you to be there. But rather But you had the right thing to do. I was waiting for you to be on the line. But the chat is much better. I talk a lot about Jørgens, but we were in the city together and I'm a lot with him. And he can also have a tendency to be a bit shy sometimes, to say it mildly.
Starting point is 00:14:18 And sometimes I rarely see it on him. But sometimes it's just like that. You're not exactly out of the distance here, Jørgens. We're going to do things and stuff. Yes, then you notice it. Many other partners, colleagues, would have said, Damn, you're so unprofessional. You sit here, I see your eyes. You look like a little boy in kindergarten. Because there often he looks like a little boy in the sandcastle down in the mountains.
Starting point is 00:14:45 He can be when I'm completely... So he has a bushy nose. Damn, he has to take that hair soon. Damn it. But now I think that the hair party says goodbye. So he just has to have a little bit left. So he just has to keep going after him. Yes, it's probably the same if we had hair.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Yes, but it just works from both sides, maybe? Yes, yes, yes. Both sides. But you work from both sides? Yes, both sides. So you can just pick it up. It's not that stupid. What do you think? In front of this fishing vest? I told you I'm very on the road.
Starting point is 00:15:16 But this is a fishing vest. Yes, which I also use in the East of Norway. Do you use it on the road as well? Yes, but it's cool, right? I like it. You don't like what I usually wear, do you? I just like to cuddle with it. I wear it over my ears, and when I meet flat-faced people, they get really annoyed.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Damn! I say that your damn shirt is so wide open that it will implode, so it will just disappear. It will roll over will just disappear, and roll all over until it just disappears. That's good, that's good. This is the longest I've had a wine pod now. Yes, it's damn good. And speaking of Njø, you mentioned so much that I came in behind the door of this industry. And it's crazy, it makes me have to stand up. I'm standing on Njø.
Starting point is 00:16:08 You're doing it really bad, I forget what I'm supposed to say. But Mia got it with her, who is the daily leader, Mia got it with her. That I was standing and I met her the next day, and I just said, I just said, because then I thought she had gotten it with her, that I was so rude yesterday. So I said, what happens when I get my own stage show? And she was like, you know what? We actually have some kind of computer, do you have any idea? And I was like, fuck, fuck. Yes, I have seen this shit, it has never happened, or something on YouTube. So I was like, yes, story time, people go and she was like, yes, perfect, then you have it.
Starting point is 00:16:40 And I got that show. The concept? Quickly? I invite guests who tell stories, wild stories that they have experienced. It's just so simple. It's a very close stand-up. Now I have more of a theme. Then you have to eat your worst holiday trip. I've been to Lignene before. where there is more storytelling than stand-up. That's exactly what I tried to say, but I can't. It's storytelling. I understand. But there have been some who have had concepts before. So I have been to Story... What is it called?
Starting point is 00:17:21 I have been to the other theater, and it's called Dette har sked. It's not a brand new concept. The point is that we are having a conference. Isak Nord starts the whole show with a crazy story. And I don't have my own impulse control in my life, and things have happened. It's so simple. And instead of going to a fucking psychologist, I just go there and get it out there. And sometimes the MOP people are like, this wasn't fun at all, you're just delivering yourself in a very negative way. But it's still... it's sick. No one should go there to think, shit, it's sick.
Starting point is 00:17:57 It's fantastic that someone opens up and dares to go to their stories. What does your family say? Because there are a lot of people who have to give their family a look. I mean, everyone does it to a certain extent. I could say things I don't say, because I know that family listens. But there are people who are worse than me, who can't say anything. There won't be any cool stand-up or anything, because it's just for family. Family-hands, yes. You're doing fine there, damn. I'm doing so damn good there. Because my family is...
Starting point is 00:18:29 I haven't had a normal life, you could say. What kind of family do you have? There it's going. Yes, exactly. I'm from a family where my mom, among other things, she went to school. She was expelled from school when she went to third grade. Because then she had to take third grade children to kindergarten,, because she had to be the mom in the house,
Starting point is 00:18:47 the extra mom in the house, and take care of the other kids. She got tired when she was 10 or 11 years old, moving home. She hadn't been back in Somalia before we went back in 2005. She moved back in an age of 14 and she never saw her family again. She left her family. She left Sørover, found her father, got a 16 year old child, and me an 18 year old. Where was your mother from? North Somalia.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Your father? Sør. She moved to Sørover, and she had some great grandkids there. That's something I tried to get out of your eyes. You can't do do shit? No. They are flying everywhere. Yes, but it's a little beef, yes. Can you do it now?
Starting point is 00:19:29 No, very bad. But it's a beef. What are you doing? Fuck it. I'm bad at that, seriously. And it's bad when I have a mother from the north and a father from the south. That's exactly it. No, so they meet each other. They meet each other, they have a baby, a father and comes here to Norway. And she has three children when she comes to Norway.
Starting point is 00:19:48 Can you tell me the difference? Can you not tell me the math? So we have to start with all this in Norway, together with me and three other kids. Where are you the oldest among the siblings? I am in the middle, so she is the fifth. So if I can give a good... My mom is the most beautiful in the world, but you can see the result of a young woman, a young girl, who lived on the street for a year, so she's damn street smart, she bans my mom, she doesn't say a word,
Starting point is 00:20:17 without saying I want to fuck everything that comes out of that mouth of my mom. Everything comes out of that dog, my mom. I have heard rumors that the dog has been... It's a bad ass, so it has been banging on the floor. Yes, yes, yes. It's a ghetto. That's what I'm trying to say. My mom is very ghetto. And she owns it. One day she had a fight with another Somali mom in Gushet. And then they had a house phone at that time, and they call each other and ban each other as hell, and I hear this. And who is heard out there? It's...
Starting point is 00:20:54 And it's your own mother who sucks your own dick? Yes, it's the worst thing. Your mother burns to hell. And I just... I learned banning words pretty fast in Somali, that was really cool. So they put it on, the lady calls again, but now it's my brother who takes it and says hello. And she says, now you can tell your mom, and knock a tirade, that her dad is a fag. Then my mom says, oh yes, my brother is autistic, so he goes straight to mom and just, yes, I'm going to tell her that you blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And mom just, it's really bad for her. She takes her sandals and goes to Guset's home office.
Starting point is 00:21:28 No, Guset's home... What's it called? It's where old people live. Old people? Old people, yes. Go to Guset's old home. There she works as a man's wife. She goes up to the 3rd floor and beats the shit out of her. This is in 2006, I think.
Starting point is 00:21:42 If I remember correctly. How does she fight? It's in our local news. Take the stick. No, no. She comes in on a whale. Imagine those old ladies. Imagine those old people in there. They only see two Somali women fighting each other.
Starting point is 00:21:58 And it resulted in her having to zone out a bit. She did. I didn't say that to anyone else. Did she sit in or took a seat? No where she had to zone out a bit. Did she? Yes, she did. I didn't tell anyone else. Did she sit inside or did she take a seat? No, she had to zone out inside. I laughed like hell, but she got a Christmas present. I'm friends now. It's my aunt who beat me.
Starting point is 00:22:16 Was it? It's like the World Championship final between Zidane and Matarazzi. What did Matarazzi say? Yes, exactly. Okay, okay. It was a few months... A lot of rats. Yes, it was a few months when she went to my aunt.
Starting point is 00:22:35 But she was in prison. There was an open zone at my mom's place. So she is the only one in the family who has zoned. That's a strange story. She went to the old lady and banged her aunt and sat down. Sat down because she had said something bad. She was just like... She's ghetto, but I love her.
Starting point is 00:22:56 So it's a culture to just go for it and be unconventional. Yes, it was like if someone said something bad to me, or if I came home and she had saw that I had been in a fight, then it's like, you should fucking say that you won, or you go back to the bank. And if I lost a fight, it was like, big brother, pick up my big brother, now you go and celebrate his big brother. She is super G. And I'm not saying that this is something my children should be raised, but from her story and how she has come to this, she is just herself. I don't judge anything that goes on, I'm just a bit angry that people are so boring in this society.
Starting point is 00:23:40 Before it was a bit... Actually, yes, it was a lot of shit before. I think that it's good that we've gone through a clean-up in a way of business culture, and in a way a lot of taffing, a lot of abuse. It's great, this is less alcohol and abuse and drive, at least in showbiz and so on. But when you look at old movies from the stand-up environment before, many were scared or seriously ill because they were so much in a rush. But damn, they drove. They drove, yes, they were cowboys. I think, maybe you glor were... It was a cowboy. I think... Just that... Maybe you glorify your past a bit.
Starting point is 00:24:28 You see and hear stories about how it was around the city. You had a young John Fredriksen, probably the same age as his head now. And he was rumored to have sat around at the theatre cafe and had his own table. Totally weird. He was lying like a bad guy, he had a laugh. Like in Goodfellas, when the boss is laughing. And you are laughing in that scene. That kind of laugh.
Starting point is 00:25:03 Who do you have today? Volvik? You don't have that kind of... It was a different time. And everyone looked at the same references. I saw a documentary about the Norwegian national team after the heroes had fought in exile. And how they just walk straight to the city. Then they run to the city and there is a piano bar. And there are all the singers. All in the fucking, all of them. It was a different time.
Starting point is 00:25:32 But we have things now too. You become very blind at the same time. You become. You can't see that perspective while you're alive. We have probably... Like... My life is almost just new and stand-up on the show, but we have had... There have been so much fun, right after the pandemic, remember?
Starting point is 00:25:53 When you got a little bit relaxed on the new stage, it was... People gave a fucking lot of support. It was a jazzy trio, and it felt like such a time, the time I want. But then you calmed down a bit again. It has. Now it has calmed down and become boring. A bit boring? A bit boring time? We... How does she go about that? Do you hold her in your arms?
Starting point is 00:26:14 No, absolutely not. I have a great time. I didn't feel that I was going to disappoint my mom. She was a great actress. She had 5 kids she had to take care of. But they had a nice warm-up sometimes. T-short-short-shoutout. Yes, those guys are great.
Starting point is 00:26:32 I've got tattooed t-short-short-short on my body. You've made an impression. Not tattooed, flat. No, wait, I can't do that. Daniel is, I don't know if you've heard of him. Did you still hear of him? Yes, I heard of him. They are damn good. I totally agree.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I like it. We talked about... I think it was the last episode, I think, when we talked about... Do you remember the porn movie Pirates? Yes. We talked about... Do you remember the porn movie Pirates? We talked about that. It was... Were you one of those who saw the whole story? No, no, no. I was afraid you would ask me that. That's okay. But I have a feeling since...
Starting point is 00:27:17 You were talking about the real thing. Because it was a very expensive production. Yes, at least for that time. And to porn you were. Yes. And a lot of focus on the action, the operators, the narratives, the plots and everything. Just because I'm going to smear it straight over to where I know. A lot of people did.
Starting point is 00:27:41 But this was in the streaming time. I remember this. I was around 20. I think I loaded it. Loaded it, right? On Pirate Bay. Probably something like that. Then they did it. So we talked about this. And I have also received a message from a listener. You talked about the Pirate's porn movie Fun Fact. A guy from Sandnes that I know has won an Oscar for the porn. The The The The The
Starting point is 00:28:13 The The The The The That was in that industry as well. You had a lot of awards. Film music! Best cock, best pussy, best tits, best music. Just take that award, thank you, you had nothing there. You've been a nerd who made a damn good mess. He took the big bad, like everyone who took Tannic in 1999. Yes, I think so.
Starting point is 00:28:45 Took all the rubble and all the music to the best level. You have beaten all records. You have grown up in a... For me... Yes, I look like I have manners. You have a lot of manners. For me you are... I won't say Ulvi for the sake of it, because you are yourself. You don't put blame on your own business.
Starting point is 00:29:10 You are a very smart, calm and calm guy. You don't seem like someone who has grown up a mother who hasn't fucked her aunt. You seem like... And that says a lot about... Of course, you can judge a family because the mother is going to fuck the aunt at the old age. But you wouldn't have become so properly old if it was a terrible home.
Starting point is 00:29:31 I think many would judge you based on some parameters. And it's not those things that have to say. It's not exactly. About something else that should be said, I just thought mom was badass when it happened. When she came back and said that you don't say anything that happened, you're the coolest mom in the world. But later on I thought, okay, maybe it wasn't completely normal what happened. But as I said, you make a choice after you go on and on, when you start to understand things.
Starting point is 00:30:00 So then it's like, okay, are you going to be on the couch and do nothing? And it was very important to her that you should go out and study. She didn't want that, which is typical for parents, so they wanted their children to have it. And for us it was school that was very important, because she was taken from school. How was... I don't know, zero... Are you the oldest of the Yarnies? Yes, May Yarnies. May Yarnies is one year older than May Yarnies. We are from the same place, and that's what's so strange about May Yarnies. We are friends, but we didn't know that we were... We thought we were older, and then we became old enough to be like...
Starting point is 00:30:38 But you are from the south, and we are maybe not... And then we started to ask questions, and we got a little older, and then we were like... Oh no, we are just family friends, who forced us to call ourselves older, until we were 9 years questions, and we get a bit older, and then we are just family friends, who have forced us to call ourselves fat until we were 9 years old, before we realized it. Damn, we are not fat, we are just friends. So now we are actually quite uncomfortable friends. When you see the King of Gurset, which was a great success, and it is of course a shot, a cinematic, historical-telling-catch.
Starting point is 00:31:07 You are completely in the same boat. The essence is exactly the same. From the first to the seventh grade, the majority were immigrants in my class. So we were so poorly integrated that without even knowing until I went... I remember the first week of high school, when all the people at the Royal Cemetery, We were so poorly integrated that without even thinking about it until I went... I remember the first week of high school, when all the people from the royal family, or the people from the PNU area, from the royal family came. And we were like, damn, there are rich people here too.
Starting point is 00:31:34 And I remember from the first to the seventh grade, I thought when the Norwegian said they were going out in the cabin, I was like, why the hell should Merte go out in the cabin when she has that house? Because I thought it was the tree cabin that we made. I thought that from the first to the seventh grade. Now you understand, because when we said, yes, we're going to make a cabin. We made a fat tree cabin. You couldn't see that she had another house? No, it's not just the essence of the King of the Guards.
Starting point is 00:31:57 It's that the culture shock was when we were in the States. Suddenly they met the white people at the youth school. But then it gets really fun. Then I'm introduced to rock music. Suddenly it was Guitar Hero and stuff like that. So then I finally got a little... I realized that it's not just... You have the series that's going now,
Starting point is 00:32:16 which is called Our Best Year. It's a communist family, which then comes to the capitalist area. And that's very good. But I think it's beyond what it's worth. How big a difference it's been. It's not the same. Those who have wealth never look back. They have a luxury problem.
Starting point is 00:32:40 They don't know what's happening down there. I'm not from any wealth. I'm from a middle class, normal upbringing. But he grew up in a cabin, got a cabin when I was 9 years old. I bought a small one, my dad made it himself. And now it's become a secondary cabin. That's not true. Now you're on... And they hate it, I see that. I haven't done anything for it. No, but you have... I call it secondary.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Damn. It's like that. It's on me, but I've actually... What the hell have I done? But yes... For us it was... Before that... I was just going to say... Because it's not extrovert thing, as you say. I had the same thing with Ronny Torstensen, the comedian, whom I met at a stand-up festival when both of us were freshmen for many years. And he immediately got a bad impression of me, because we had a cabin, we had a boat,
Starting point is 00:33:41 we hadn't had it for many years. We were like a new kingdom. Not for long. And it wasn't a big boat, just a regular one. And he hated me because he had heard about this concept of a cabin from the sherds with a poor family. And you hear the name, Ronny Torstøsen. I know who he is. He never had the concept of a cabin, and he was crazy about it.
Starting point is 00:34:08 I remember the Moonfish Festival in Frederiksdag, when we had stand-up shows, to a boat from the cabin. And Kevin Keelal also hated me. Probably for other reasons. I was from Norrstad, and I was young, and had that attitude, which I didn't see in the same way.
Starting point is 00:34:27 It was exciting with people from Hallsøy, Norway and Kjørdalen in the middle of Norway. That's true. That's exactly what you're saying. That area where I come from, we also had Robin and Remi, who were 100% worse than us. Because we are all safe, but their parents are also rushing. My parents are muslims, they don't even have a cigarette. So mom is awake making lunch and trying to get help, while Remi comes home to an alcoholized mom. So it's like you say, it doesn't really have anything to do with immigration.
Starting point is 00:34:59 It's just more that the communal houses are usually placed one place, and there I was. I was just joking. Galvan has a joke. He is also premiering today on his show. Galvan and Hiddy. So when I saw him, I actually saw him premier. He has a joke that goes against it. And how awful they had it for the parents to rush and stuff. And he was like, damn wish I could smoke more. And then he got beaten up. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:35:32 I let go a lot of wopas. A little after the arrival, that was one of the things. Where are you going? I thought you were going to dance. We took a break. I didn't understand a thing. But dear Remi, I hope you're doing well. We hang out together. That's not what it was like as fathers. We liked each other. But we saw a bit of those who had...
Starting point is 00:35:58 Or in the youth school, those who had a boat to hit. But then my best friends started to put their beards because we wanted straight hair. So fast it can go from the first to the seventh grade, you are so bad at your own race, and everyone is just painters, and then you go to the youth school, and you shave your hair and put on Vox. It's like that. That's it, you know. If you come from... Not a shit, and then and start to get paid,
Starting point is 00:36:26 it's not like you just say, I'm going to share the same amount of money that everyone is going to get. I'm not going to take that money. I grew up in Fattigåd and I know how bad it is. Absolutely not. It's called nigger rich. It's a real word for it. And it's that people from the ghetto who have never had money, get a chunk of money and they... And become worse than anyone! Yes, absolutely. Totally. Totally. 100 is a nigger rich.
Starting point is 00:36:48 And unfortunately I am like that too. I have to learn soon. I heard about your money podcast. There was a lot of info about money. It was very interesting. We managed to get something in at the end. You play it so short. You are smart. And then you say all, you're smart, and you keep saying,
Starting point is 00:37:06 oh, for a stupid guy like me... And in my head I thought, you're a fucking fool, I've heard a lot about you. When I say that, I don't mean that I play it in any other way than I feel. It's just very important to me to precise that I don't stretch out on a lot of fields. And when it comes to chromatics... It's just advanced sometimes, so thank you for saying that. Then I have to be very honest about it. And when it comes to different... Sometimes you say things in the podcast that almost
Starting point is 00:37:33 almost attracts you to be advised, or some people should live their life after. Someone would be willing to listen to things that are said here, and just, it sounds smart, maybe that's right. In many other podcasts, the fact that you are stupid and don't listen to this, don't live after this, we just sit and talk shit, that is under-communicated. So you get in a way... and I think there is a lot of... Pimpowsen, for example, is in the spotlight. I think a lot of that is exciting. He is very well read. And I admire him for taking a look at some things that we just forget that the authorities have been right all year.
Starting point is 00:38:16 A lot of weird stuff. It's not like we found the phase in the 70s. Or the 90s. Or the 2000s. We have to dig and ask questions, so that's good. But there it's about shooting in all directions. A small disclaimer that he only does what he's best at. But there are many who feel that it's pretty slavish. And that's dangerous. So I like balance in it. I'm just very busy with saying it. I have zero need to sit here and say things that people should know and teach people. I just want to talk about the things I care about. And then it's important to say that I am a meathead. And we all are meatheads. There are very few who can say it's smart.
Starting point is 00:39:00 That's a good explanation. And when I say it, it's not like, oh poor me, who is a meathead, and expect people to write in the inbox, you are very smart, you are not stupid. I was so smart to answer. You are a cheater, and all cheater people think people are smart. You are like, oh fuck, oh, now you say something. It's been so, I've been with a lot of scary people. Yes, but there are a lot of different kinds of scary people. That's what you have to understand.
Starting point is 00:39:31 It's very fun. Those who are like a drawing duo. They have a pair of tweezers and they sit and talk to each other. Marken, what about the sky? Oh my god, it's actually... No, no, if you are stoner, you come there, it's not noticeable. It's not that, it just happens. I can't name a name, but there are some you know, I can tell you, I'm amazed every time you meet him on Weed, and I don't think you've noticed that once, because he's the hardest worker.
Starting point is 00:40:04 I understand, I can't think you've noticed that once, because he's the hardest worker. I don't know, I can't say. He hasn't put any pressure on me. Believe me, I've grown up with such people, so I know very well how it is. But I'm not a guy who goes around looking for a loop after that. I agree. But if you think that weed is the most spread effect on people, of all drugs. So one can be completely... I'm writing on it.
Starting point is 00:40:30 Yes, I have taken a joint with someone and they are like, as you said, oh, I'm humming now. I was like, have you taken soap or something? And then there are some who are completely normal, some who get paranoia. So that's what's happening. It's very human. But in fact, as I usually say that weed has become a new crack. When I was 17 years old and we were on the bathroom floor at a friend's house. And we could smoke a lot.
Starting point is 00:41:00 And I was a young man. That was a zero problem. And now if I'm going to take a sip of something, it's like having a glass bowl and take a sip of that crack beer. The wine has become so much stronger. It's something completely different. But as you're sitting, as you're used to it, you're a Todoranger, you've worked up your energy. We're going to fill up the bottles. I saw you looking down at the glass. We're going to have a beer. As I used to, you are a I drink weed. Because alcohol is what I like the most. It's the warmth in my face. I miss every day. I pray to a god I don't believe in. I've said that I should drink weed.
Starting point is 00:41:53 Because I'm so tired of being small. So weed is... You get a smoke without the consequences. And I have read that I know the damage effect. Yes, of course there is something, but it's not close. Alcohol is a crisis. That's why I say that I can't stop with that. That's what I want to stop with. But to sit here and drink a hot climate. Beautiful. It's so damn nice. And I feel... My life follows the tempo of society.
Starting point is 00:42:30 Now we are into the wind frequency, which is so nice. My life now follows the new tempo. Before that, when I was young, before smart phones, because I lived half a life without them. How old are you? Two thirds of my life without them. Smart phones are new, right? It's having a headset with podcasts, completely new. The thing that you have to be stimulated by the content all the time, it's new. Before that, I went around thinking. I went around like an old artist in Christiania. I had a block on my inner-body and noted jokes.
Starting point is 00:43:21 Did you? Yes! Fuck, I live there. And now I live. People are like, I have to listen to that podcast, I have to listen to it, I have to check the VG, I have to do this and that. I have been with that tempo. And then Sven Biskår, Sunne, he is a podcast friend. He and a guy named Mike, they have a premiere on a new show that has followed them for a year. They have cut out everything from social media and everything.
Starting point is 00:43:54 And I think it will be very interesting to see. Because I have talked about them for many years. I feel that I manage well. But when you get a little bit of distance, you realize that you actually do that. Because now I have had a so called headset-free week. Because I was just used to having a headset every time I went out the door. And then you get input from it. But when you don't have it, the thoughts and everything just falls into place. You manage to draw in, you draw some conclusions, you take the roof of that information.
Starting point is 00:44:24 Much of what you have heard, then. heard has been valuable to a certain degree. You manage to get a little order in all of that. You manage to think new thoughts, you sing. I just suddenly... Because I listen to music occasionally, but I have also taken over that podcast. It's completely flat. I'm starting to sing on a void. I'm starting a sun, it was a sunny day.
Starting point is 00:44:45 And I thought, I've been caught. And the only thing that could free me from that prison was to take it and put it back. You know what? I will never go back on this. I will listen to podcasts again. I will portion it out. So that you can have it completely free. Oh, I feel naked without sound. Oh my days. You have to go out and take over the world. Be at the shop without hearing. Listen! What did I say? I was sitting next to two or four old guys who were drinking beer. They are from another time.
Starting point is 00:45:19 They talked like friends, but from another time. I got that conversation in my ear. Instead of noise cancelling and just a lot of digs. This is the most important thing I say in life. If I have a son, I have to pick up the gloves and live life as it should be. Even if we think we are healthy, we are not healthy. Yes, of course. When I go out to the Westmarka, as I told you, I'm there for a day or two. And then I'm very little on the phone. But that's a statistic.
Starting point is 00:45:50 The only thing that happens is that when I get home, I have extra much on that damn phone. So I take those hours again. I've been healthy, I've been out in the woods. Damn, that's also a dependency I have to work with that damn phone. I see it on the stand-up we make. And this is not for everyone, but there are fewer poets. I feel there are fewer poets in society. I feel that everyone... Who sits on a rock and looks at the universe and thinks? And he has the apprais praise, it's not funny.
Starting point is 00:46:27 They exist and they become more and more rare. If this continues, I will say one important thing to my son. Sit on the rock and look at the universe. We sit on a rock and we just wander through the universe in a constantly increasing tempo. It's crazy. Look out and think. What about the bohemians, or the artists who are out in Larvik? William and the guys, they are living. I can't look at a dream boy. I can't look at an iPhone 16. What the hell? They are real. The last ones.
Starting point is 00:47:00 They are out looking at... I'm sitting on a rock and looking out. They are the last ones, of course. But in our society they are completely strange, right? Yes, if they do something... I see him on tour with those clothes and I'm just like... Wow! Is it... Is it fucking... And he is that guy. Have you gone from boat to the Nansen? And are you going out to paint on the ice? He is raw, really. But I... He's painting on ice. He's raw, really.
Starting point is 00:47:25 But I... I think many younger people than me would look at that group and wouldn't find anything to do with them. They wouldn't look at them as something else, just weird and distorted. I just don't have the constant drive to do content and social media. I remember a time when we sat and talked to each other, and talked about abstract concepts. We looked at the stars and talked about what the universe is. And we looked down at capitalism, we are young and we took those concepts because we had also seen the rare times when we got to see a stand-up comedian who took up or one of the writers, if it is George Carlin on the stand-up stage, or George Orwell in 1984,
Starting point is 00:48:21 those books he read as a kid, who you some thoughts and you actually talked about them. Those things, I think those who are too young, look at the red room gang, who are like, they are badly hurt in the head. But I think they have a lot more right than most of them. Yes, 100 percent. I think they are really fat. They are the real fat ones. They are just the ones who think they are cool. They are actually sitting in a pile of boxes and painting landscape paintings. Their images are so much more than just a piece. He posted an Instagram post where he was going to sell a piece for 3000 kroner. And I am so stupid. And then I just saw that Instagram post. I bought it.
Starting point is 00:49:04 I didn't understand what I thought I saw the Instagram post and bought it. What did I think I would get a huge painting? Was a postcard. Not big on Instagram pictures. Like buying something from Teme? Yes, I think I will get a huge painting of those guys. I got a huge postcard. You as a listener won't hear and think shit about this,
Starting point is 00:49:23 but I am dependent on a little piss-bouse that we are talking about in a second. And this is... You don't notice a piss-bouse, right? It's a bit weird with podcasts. I love podcasts. I was thinking while I was on Das. It's crazy how dependent you get on things. And when I've heard... I love podcasts, so to speak. I love being able to hear things, whether it's whether it's just a joke or something you learn. You feel that you really get input. You can just walk around and learn. It's like a sci-fi thought, like, imagine you can just take in art and feel it like that. But if you don't have a balance in how you live your life, if you do too much of something, it's never good. You have to balance. All the time. So I have been lazy about how I have been walking around, and I have to put on the headset that is lying there,
Starting point is 00:50:18 and I walk around thinking, and I have been walking for an hour, and I am like, are you kidding me? How did I do this? How did I do this? I'm glad I've come to this point. I wanted to share that. How long are you going to do that with the headset? Are you just going to drop it? No, no. Just to rationalize it? Are you going to do it for a few days without it? I think I will rarely do it. I will take it in my bag afterwards. I will take it to training when I'm on stage.
Starting point is 00:50:44 It's a thing. You can't hear the music, the drums and stuff. I can't have a headset. But I won't have it on the way to places. Transport stages? No. When I'm out there, I have to see and hear what's going on around. The local shop? You hear an old man... You have the beard. Imagine having a headset there. You can't get better. He's an old man. You know what it's like to sit behind him and hear him driving and sitting and struggling. You don't get the sound of the world. You miss it. You have to have it. So I will first go a little more and more extreme. I will phase you in.
Starting point is 00:51:28 I don't think about jumping into things. I think it works for some. Now I'm going to start training, and then I'm going to eat healthy, and then I'm going to have rice cakes. Or what the hell is that? I'm going to definitely just... No, you have to phase things. I think that at least for many think so. At least for me. I can't just say, now I'm going to... So, okay, so your plan is not to think about burner phone? Yes, this was my previous project.
Starting point is 00:51:55 Okay, you've thought about burner phone. You've talked about it. I talked about this. I got burner phone, twin SIM card. Okay, so you don't have any excuses. I never used burner phone. But I was convinced that I just had to put it in front of me. So I've gotten better. I manage to put it in front of my phone now. I've lost Facebook. I got hacked and thrown out. So Facebook Messenger out of my life. That's one thing. It's nice.
Starting point is 00:52:16 I don't have Snapchat, TikTok. So I chat with someone on... Twitter? Not Twitter. Someone on WhatsApp. Are you the painter? No, but... All the painters do that. Maybe that's the painting. No, all of them.
Starting point is 00:52:28 It's become big, WhatsApp. I'm not talking about painters. I'm talking about that. It's just... It's not like WhatsApp has become... WhatsApp is good. I remember WhatsApp was already when I was on a backpacking tour 15 years ago. Yes, okay.
Starting point is 00:52:38 That was good. But WhatsApp... I remember WhatsApp was already when I was on a backpacking tour, 15 years ago. Okay. But WhatsApp and Instagram are the main... The main thing. I scroll a lot. I don't scroll that much, but I use it and it's important with work. But now I'm talking too much about myself.
Starting point is 00:53:02 What are your big weaknesses? Weaknesses can be strength, but what are you too open about? Too many weaknesses. If you think about getting your life on the line, then it's obviously certain things I should take care of, which I probably won't take care of it with the first thing. But as long as you are ready for it, it's one step. But the woman-hunting is totally unnecessary. At least when it's not... It's not an end goal. I don't want to have a girlfriend. So it takes a lot of time. Do you never get tired of the beating?
Starting point is 00:53:42 No, because I'm so damn bad. I just have to practice. I have my hips up. You've never been tired of the You're training your hips now? They are so stiff and so rough. My stroke game is bad. That's the best part. You're not a pooler, you're training your hips. I haven't been tired. I have to. You said you were overweight when you were little. We're not going to go into that much detail. Is it stopped? No, no, no. But imagine if you are a overweight kid, and in addition have a lot of energy, and love to run, roll down the hill, then you become a funny guy. People are talking about me, I mean overweight.
Starting point is 00:54:34 You are like him who has a lamb in his avatar, who became an avatar, and just fuck it, then he can run again. Yes, as you would think, that's how you would think. I think everyone on the show just digs the scene of a so round guy with so much life in him. So no, what happens is that, one thing that I think is a bit tricky is that when I was going out of the hospital, which I was in for three weeks or so, because I had to operate both my hips at the same time, and that's out of the blue because I was overweight. So you were so overweight? Yes, it was at the same time. And that's out of the blue, because I was overweight. So you were that overweight? Yes, it was under the priority. So then there's a hip bone, which, you grow,
Starting point is 00:55:09 but the hip bone doesn't get any more, so it slides down because you're so damn heavy. So then you have to take a spiky in between so you don't get it to slide down any more. Nature is just like, it's not going to be possible to be so overweight. You're so young! It's not funny. And then the human body is not made to be so fat!
Starting point is 00:55:28 Yes, to be so heavy from above. What I remember so well is when I loved playing football all my life, and the doctor had to give me one last thing. There are certain professions now that you have two screws in your head, that you shouldn't electrify, among other things, that are not so good. So I was like, but what about football players? And I just think of him, the young doctor guy who saw an overweight 13 year old and said, No, you can't become a professional football player either. And I'm in that office, whee!
Starting point is 00:55:54 Who is it now? He's not getting a story teller, program manager and big balls. Camp Culinaris, 72. 72 Camp Culinaris, damn. What a journey. What for a journey. No, so... For a fucking journey. So no, I have two screws in my hand. I called them here the other day, just because I was like Yo, should I die with these screws? Is that the point? And they were like Yes, I don't know how to take them out, but you can if you want, but then you have to go with crutches for six weeks.
Starting point is 00:56:20 I was like, of course not, what the fuck, then I have... If I became more mobile, I would have done it. Just let them be. I am very technology-optimistic. Okay, we'll open a spade. The future is now. Damn, I am. It's good that you are technology-optimistic. I love it. I am very technology-optimistic.
Starting point is 00:56:40 I am worried about the world's situation and the future and the climate and all this. The soil quality is very much to worry about. You can't even... Forest fires in the Amazon, floods in Europe... I haven't thought about this for a second. I'm just so proud of you doing it, man. I'm writing it down. And I'm giving it a mark. But you can't let everything that comes into you, right? But you think that the world, in a way, slow music, or almost not that way, is going under pretty fast.
Starting point is 00:57:16 That it will become so extremely, so fast, a big part of the world. That there will be so many refugee refugee streams that the whole world... You just become a lot of border control and so on. And that is the first way to totalitarianism. Totalitarianism. Totalitarianism. But in this you might need to be a bit technology-optimist. I like to listen to people who actually work with the things,
Starting point is 00:57:47 like Fredrik Hauge, I talk to him about, and there is probably something to take him on, that I haven't picked up, if it's a violence, or if it's an ideology, I don't know. I just think when he talks, I buy him, he is a friend of Elon Musk. He has been... before he was attached to concrete masters or old-age masters and was an extinction rebellion type, but then he understood that to make a change you have to work together with capitalism, you have to get people to make money on change. And that is the right thing. You have to get the money power.
Starting point is 00:58:32 You have to get them to make money on change. Because they also want to create a change so that the earth is good. But something for something that makes the money, that, you live only one life. You live now, although many don't have children, many care about their children. But if you talk in the language of the rich,
Starting point is 00:58:54 at the same time as you already did, then that's why. It's the day that it happens. So I believe very much that suddenly you just break the code of the CO2 storage, for example. break the code of CO2 storage. You can store CO2 and extract it from the atmosphere. Or what the hell is atmosphere and what is different. But if you suddenly make a 7-mile step on these fields and then you manage to get it done. And then you're going to use meat in the lab. Is that it?
Starting point is 00:59:29 But that can't be good enough. I've seen some people saying that it's really good. But it says a little bit about you. You have faith and you're optimistic. Because you want to save the world and make the world a better place. I'm technologically optimistic... No, techno... Yes, something like that. Techno-optimistic, but we are destroying the world.
Starting point is 00:59:51 Lex Luthor! No, but what I am thinking about, and I am so optimistic, is that my biggest fear is, for example, when I see old men walking with a crotch and are so fragile that you only know if I had pushed you with 30% of my power, you would have gone to the ground. And my biggest fear is to get hit. The technology I hope for, is like when I get old I have a jacket, but it is bound to my legs, so it gives me a super pressure when I have to hit, or whatever I mean. So that I can't fall so fast. That's that you're thinking like this, CO2 and... Your search is over, my good friend. What? Are there things you can attach to your veins and get help?
Starting point is 01:00:35 Now there are pants. From... I don't know if you noticed, but there are pants that can be connected to the legs. You have mechanics in pants. Mountain class. Which pushes you up a bit. And what I'm going to start with. I've said it for a long time. I've said it for many years. I don't give a shit about my hips and my knees. Yes, I have a bit of an empty knee.
Starting point is 01:00:58 You have bad hips. Yes, but when I get... And of course this comes up in the class gap, which I think is one of the most important questions we have in society. If you have big class gaps, you will create conflicts and everything will separate. If the middle class stops, as you said, everything will just smoke. And you talk a lot about the middle class and then you think, have you forgotten the working class? No, you are just forced to have the working class? No, you just need the middle-aged people.
Starting point is 01:01:25 They buy things. Yes, no. I hope I have enough energy, so that when that day comes, I will not just change a kneecap, not just a hip-shape, I will change the whole shit. Right under the sink. The kitchen and everything. 7 year old, that's all. Money and stuff.
Starting point is 01:01:49 And just get a robot and a partner. And it will work. Have you seen different robots today? Yes, they dance better than me. So yes, it has to work. Of course it will. Just worry about getting your money well. And if you listened to the economics episode,
Starting point is 01:02:08 the conclusion is that with today's money system, which will not stop, you can't have your money in standing places. If you earn more than you use, then the only way to earn money, and not just be on the status quo quo is to invest it in your market. If you manage to earn a million or two and invest it, you will become wealthy. If you don't manage to get there, you won't be. And we have already said that the class gap is huge.
Starting point is 01:02:45 If you just work from hand to hand, you'll never get up there. And that's how it is. Because then all your money will be mine and mine. Everything you own will be more expensive. That's where we are. And it doesn't stop. Damn. It's crazy. Yes, it is. It's fucking crazy. So when you vote for the next election, the general election,
Starting point is 01:03:06 again, don't give up anything. I know that if you have money, you would rather vote for the party that will give you the most advantages. I have always thought that, even though I have money now, I don't care if I have so much or so much right below. I think that society is more important than how much wealth I have. You have to think about how the class difference comes, how the social difference in society increases or decreases. I think that's essential.
Starting point is 01:03:42 Yes, I think so too. Do you think that many millionaires, I think when you you said the rich, they would vote for it of course, I realized that I am poor, we have voted almost all year round, now Russian politics, what I see, has become a bit left-wing, but do you think there are... How many millionaires in Oslo do you think vote for? It's not an idea, I can't just look at it, there are so many. Four or five people that are idealists. I think so.
Starting point is 01:04:09 I think some of them exist, who understand that there is no way to say that Nikolaj Tangen is anything. You can say that his name is super cynical. And to lose an oil fund, you lose a huge amount of 100 million. But when you work as a hedge fund holder, day to day money has nothing to say. Because with insight you can earn the money back like that, at once. So how cynical he is, will he get the insight to see and earn 70 times as much? You don't know that. But I would think that... I would be able to see myself as a rich person. I'm not saying that I would have survived it.
Starting point is 01:04:59 Sometimes I would have booked under. And then you don't know yourself. Then you would forget everything you are. But I do believe that if I had become super rich, that I would have had some of the values I have now, I wouldn't have had to sit in a huge mansion with two boats and 70 cars. I know that if I had become super rich, I wouldn't have been the guy I am now. Then I would have been like Diddy. I can say that with one hand. Then you would have been freak-offs every fucking day with me.
Starting point is 01:05:25 And it can happen to me too. You know what? I can't believe it. But you want to. You hope. I totally agree with you. I see how you feel. What's dangerous when you have a podcast like this is that you have some thoughts that you think are smart. And then you have an episode every week. And you have done it for 5-6 years. Now you have done it for many years. So some of the thoughts always go back. And these thoughts have probably gone through many times.
Starting point is 01:05:53 But it was something like life changing. Because I am still quite young. I was young when Obama was in government. And I was quite concerned about American politics already that time. I am very concerned now as well. Really? Yes, very much. And that party, because it is a fucking showbacke,
Starting point is 01:06:16 It is what you are talking about. I give two tickets to the election campaign. And then the world dynamic. I could like to get into both French and in a way, in the middle of Israel. I could get into Brazil. I wish I had the capacity to get into all of that. El Salvador.
Starting point is 01:06:42 El Salvador, the bitcoin state. Yes, yes, yes. I wish I could put myself in all of that, but I don't have that. The USA is just a cultured like. It has become a package solution that has made me... I would rather see you as an USA expert. Who are all the fucking USA experts I see all the time on TV? It would be much cooler to have you there, so it could be a bit...
Starting point is 01:07:06 But I'm too old. Yes, they are fucking... Many of them are good. Many of them are good. And it's what it is, and when you know that American voters are tabloids, you can just look at those who mean something. Because those who know a little, we say that you can't know, you can't guess. It's impossible to guess, because you have these states that are whipping.
Starting point is 01:07:32 Whipping states? Pennsylvania? Yes, Pennsylvania and so on. And it has been like that before, because it changes a bit. It's different. You think that a state is like God, this state goes to that state, but suddenly that can change too. So again, these are prognoses. So these are the states that are now super conservative? Yes, you want to choose the states, but it's not a gift that it will be. And then there's the choice-making system. Again, now you sound like I know things, because I say election system and so on.
Starting point is 01:08:06 I am quite... there are quite a few of you there. But I understand a little bit of it. And what I want to say is that you vote for states, you don't vote for the population as a whole. You vote for states that are entitled told so many so-called voters. So when you vote for Pennsylvania, and Pennsylvania has twice as many voters as fucking Georgia or whatever, then it will weigh twice as heavily. So when a state whips, it's the voters who decide. You vote, say that it's written, we have 30 voters, and it's written with their banners and their flags. We are the 30 voters in Pennsylvania,
Starting point is 01:08:52 who have managed to enter power positions. It's as stupid as that. It is, yes. Damn. Yes, because the voters, as you explained, and it was well explained, that's exactly what I've got. That there are others who get more, so it was Valgmenn.
Starting point is 01:09:08 Valgmenn? Yes, okay. And that's the Norwegian name, Edvard. Yes, it's called something completely different. What is it called? Electro-votes? That's it. New York, no, LA doesn't have so many, but there are some others that have a lot, or New York.
Starting point is 01:09:20 It depends on the size. Yes, that's what it was. So Texas has a lot of people. A lot. California. I think it's also It was in the size. Yes, that's what it was. In Texas, there are a lot of them. California, I think it's quite close to the city. But you are also known for being very fond of war stories, aren't you? The greats. I talk a lot with the greats.
Starting point is 01:09:37 All the greats. Do you have control over them? Or at least I do. People think I have a preference for food and wine. Wine, no preference. I can just go and enjoy it. I can just go with it. And above average, happy. And have a little point here and there. I can understand a little. But absolutely no negativity or have no point on that. In relation to those who have a point.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Food, quite okay above average, but a lot of big holes. History? There I come. I was worse than some of the two before. Oh, really? Yes, but I speak so loud when I've read Napoleon's books. I am a talker. So you know all the battles he has won and how many went away.
Starting point is 01:10:20 I know a couple, but when I read a book about Julius Caesar or Napoleon, I became a man. That's what I do. Okay, that's a trick. If I had been smart, I would have built up without it. I would have trumped it all. So I built it up under the wings. I would have trumped them all, so it would have been a good start. But what is unfortunate for me is that I have a lot of old friends who have known me all my life. Those who have no old friends, who know who you are, you should take care of them. Because they can say what they want, but I can't say what I want. If I say that I am that and that, then there are a lot of witnesses who just listen to the story and say Are you stupid? Are you trying? Are you going to be a tyrant?
Starting point is 01:11:06 Yes, just trying It's not possible I have to keep some distance to this reality So you actually want to say that you are even worse at history than wine and food At least I agree that history and food are wine But ask me about the history. About the history? One question.
Starting point is 01:11:32 Alexander the Great. He is of course the great because he has... What's the question? That should be a question. A little more concrete question. Okay. How many battles did Napoleon win? No, that's for me.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Give me a little hint. I can draw big lines there, but to say how many he won. He won over... He was in the 15 years period, it wasn't that long. He won some small and some big battles. So I say 10-15 battles there, maybe 10 years later. He got big team of support, right? The same as Hitler. He was going to Russia, and that's where he got broken. He missed the whole thing.
Starting point is 01:12:32 The Winter War. Can you tell us what happened in Russia? He went to Russia with a lot of pressure. The weather was bad, he thought. It took a little longer. He thought he would march in 10 days. He was broken in Russia, the winter cold came in and the morale... He didn't only have French soldiers, it was only 1 third or maybe less of French soldiers. He had everything from different parts of Europe, camp soldiers, of course.
Starting point is 01:13:02 So the morale went down at, and he was broken. He was always disillusioned and high on the pares. He sat in a cart, but the soldiers killed him, ate horses and dogs. But didn't Russia do anything? Russia? I think they just gave away several cities and pulled them back. They burned down Moscow! Yes, they burned down Moscow. But that was because the Russians had fled Moscow. They just said, you know what? We give up the cities.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Then we pull them back into the country. Sorry, I was just checking if you were with us. The Russian bears, you know. They understand their own landscape. I know this is just because I saw Napoleon's film one week ago when I was super shocked. And I thought it was cool that they burned down the whole city. Bad movie. Yes, but it's German.
Starting point is 01:13:52 Read... Do you think it was a bad movie? There are too many people who say that now. I have read a book. I try to recommend it to people. A Swedish author, who I have forgotten the name of now, has written a thick book, which is more in doubt about everything. And when you read it, it becomes a nightmare. Because a movie... I mean that Ringene Serre is the best movie that has been made, that is better than the books. Because they compress it. And I think the story in the movies is fantastic.
Starting point is 01:14:22 I was a superfan when I was young. Where do superfans talk? Not that I can always... No, it was just some... But I think they... And there are several friends who have said that... Have you sent letters to any of the cast? No, not like that. I just think that... I see it every now and then and I admire the whole universe. I think all seasons of Rings of Power are good as well.
Starting point is 01:14:47 First, the fox. And there was too much to follow up on. No, but the second one is good. Not 10 out of 10, but 7 out of 10. Damn, you like that. New episode today, Thursday. We're sitting here. Okay, now it's your turn.
Starting point is 01:15:04 Oh, damn. Alexander Nustora, you start with. Yes. There were some other national borders and regions that time, but there is a very clear answer to this question. Where is he from? And where is Alexander Nustora? Okay, okay, that's not stupid, and it's very clear. As I said, I'm just so... I'm a giant now. This is good, because now the listeners are sitting, and some are trying to say,
Starting point is 01:15:34 where is he from again? And some are sitting, oh, you have to know that! It's like everyone against everyone. I love my quiz show! That's exactly it. Okay, let's see that I know that Stalin originally is from Georgia. But that's not what you asked me about. We have to go back. I just had to show it before I was here. We're going back hundreds of years before Christ's birth. Okay, then I say that he originally is from...
Starting point is 01:16:03 If you say Lithuania little bit... Chechenia. Okay. No. Macedonia. Is it? Yes. Damn, I've been there. Damn. He had a very, very famous teacher, who taught him in several disciplines, who later almost became as famous as Alexander the Great himself.
Starting point is 01:16:25 What's his name? Damn, now he has a teacher. Zero point. Fuck. Aristotle? No! I'm serious. Is that cool?
Starting point is 01:16:37 I'll take that one further. Your turn. Oh, I get another one? Yes. Okay. We also have women in history who have been called the greats. We have that. And we must not forget that. So, can you tell me about the biggest of them all, according to you?
Starting point is 01:16:55 According to me? Or according to everyone, of course. There are several great women rulers. You have Cleopatra. Not bad. The Great Patriarch, she was relatively new in the Roman Empire and Egypt at that time, towards the end of the Roman Empire, which had gone on the other side of Jesus Christ. But then there is much closer to our time, and then there is Catherine the Great of France, for example. My favourite. Yes. And then you had Victoria and Elizabeth, the old English. Two big female rulers, English rulers.
Starting point is 01:17:34 So you had a bit of a trick in what is now called Tibet. But then... No, it's not. Oh, damn it, now I would say that you are completely wrong! Oh my god! I can't believe it. I'm just kidding. Yes, we are kidding. I don't want to have any more stories. The biggest one for me is Petra, actually.
Starting point is 01:17:55 But she was probably a cold little butterfly. Was she? Yes, she was rolling around. Damn it. Napoleon was... Napoleon is what we call in 2024 a simp. Because when you are in a battle and choose to go back because the lady is out of peace. That's the movie we showed. Look, now you're besting me. I only have the movie as reference here. It wasn't like a letter that went on for months. So this was rumours. He got it confirmed when he came back. And this is going on for a year.
Starting point is 01:18:32 Oh yes, look at that. Check it. In the movie, you almost think that he is a bitch. You think that he is gone in the swing and a little bit of war. And then he just... No, you know what? There is war here. I just have to run away and stop the ladies. That's exactly what I meant. Okay, but then it wasn't as simple as I had thought. But just think about it. In Reff, what we talked about,
Starting point is 01:18:56 how you are used to listening to things on a headset or just watching things all the time, having content and stimulation all the time. And then you take off the headset and think yourself, how the hell did I do this? How can I live now without being stimulated? That's what I hoped you would say, but you were just like all my thoughts come to me at once. I was more like, when I'm in the street I'm like, what are you doing now? I ask myself super anxious questions.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Yes, but that's more when you walk around on the sidewalk. I'm used to doing housework and just listening to podcasts. But when I'm out on the street, there's a lot to look at. There are sounds and stuff, yes. But I thought about how it was before. When you lived days and years without anything, you found that they didn't miss Stimuli. They just missed each other and it made them think. And then you had many of them, they were so much unenlightened that they never had any smart thoughts.
Starting point is 01:19:51 But it was terrible for Swin. Terrible for Swin. He went and thought his stupid thoughts. He just never got out of it. I never thought about that. What about you? What is your dream in life? Have you never been religious? Absolutely never been religious. But I say it in this show, because you have the theory of simulation, I like to go a little deeper into the hypothesis that we live in a simulation, which has been happening for many years.
Starting point is 01:20:24 And after the AI revolution and everything that has happened now, people have gone out with a lot of pompoms and said that it is in no way as spiced as one thought before. It can actually be almost 50-50 if we are living a simulation, right? And that is, it puts everything in a new light, but I also think at the same time that these are the same thoughts that have been in mythologies, and religions, or old religions, or modern religions. In all years, death is not enough, that it turns black after death is not enough. To become black after death is not enough. There must be something more. So in that way, I am religious in that I
Starting point is 01:21:11 I am not thinking about anything else. Do you think someone is watching us? Do you think someone we don't see is watching us? I would say that at least 50-50. If we live in a simulation, so we are a character, it's possible. And everything we think is possible to know. You sometimes see a glitch in Matrix. You see the same things going on the streets. The Swedish rapper Young Lean, I saw a documentary of him yesterday. He became psychotic and manic. Because he was completely sure that he was being controlled by someone who was watching him.
Starting point is 01:21:48 Who was in that simulation. Then it went completely crazy. So you have to be careful with those thoughts. I have to. I have been in psychosis before. I feel so strong now. I have been hit 35. And 36. I have a little son. I understand more. If I get sick now, I would be disappointed. Now that you're starting to.
Starting point is 01:22:13 Because I have so many possibilities to become like that. I got a little stressed before I broke up. You asked me what my dream was in life. It's easy to say, because it's an Instagram guy who has become very big, who just goes to rich people. An investor who says like, excuse me, what is your dream in life? And if you give him a really good answer, he invests and helps you and gives you some money. I'm one and a half years old, basically. I don't know. You don't know yet? No, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:22:40 But do you have to know? Every time I watch those videos, I'm like, damn, they're fast at answering and they're much younger than me. And they're like, I want to someday... I just look at myself. That I live in the city center, outside a farm. That's what I've seen. But that's it. And then my thoughts stop. Think of all those who are stopped on the street, who have this super self-esteem, and they have seen Jordan Peterson and they stare up the screen and stuff. How many of those who have had this super plan for life, this will be, this will be,
Starting point is 01:23:13 how many of them do not think they have failed? And the more they fail, the more crisis it becomes, because of the difference between reality and... And becomes... But to all the young people out there, find something you're burning for. Find your dream. Imagine how many have found their way. And that's probably... Statistically, if you're going to find
Starting point is 01:23:34 a certain way to it. I think most of the people who have been successful in something and been happy at the same time have found their way. Not everything has been planned. Stor Dalen was supposed to be... He had plans and he managed to survive. But how do you think he has it in his head? I don't know how he has it in his head.
Starting point is 01:23:55 Yes, that's true. I don't know. No, it's just that. I don't know. Money is zero worth compared to happiness you feel. But I am't know. Money is zero worth compared to happiness, you feel. But I am. It's completely unreasonable. I was in a situation where I went to a paid school, the most expensive school in Norway. I went to the high school and then I found out that I don't... It doesn't happen that I work half a second as a carpenter. Of course it's a bad feeling to sit half a banana in a pot
Starting point is 01:24:26 and not work with what you need. But then it's like you say, luck is so damn much more important than victory. And the experiences you built at that time, which cost half a million, they are experiences... Could I be right? Yes, but you think that now it's finished because that happened,
Starting point is 01:24:44 but all those experiences are not as frequent as money. No, that's true. So if you keep working and manage other areas, you will laugh at the loss in all aspects. That's nice. It's those perspectives that you don't understand when you're in the middle of the soup. Yes, exactly. It's when our friend Jørn is open about his problems. And he has been through some crisis before, so he has to say that everything is over now.
Starting point is 01:25:14 But you have been through so many things that you know that what is over at the moment, it will pass and you can look back on it. Yes, that's exactly it. So it also applies to this happiness, what you dream about. Yes, 100%. I don't know if you measure happiness, but I can guarantee that in the last five years I have never been as happy as I am. I have been so damn happy in life. But I don't know what I'm going to do in ten years, I don't know where I'll be, I don't know where I'll be in 15 years. What is it? I don't know where I'll be, I don't know where I'll be in 15 years. Is she okay? Can I say that there is a little role that awaits in a new big movie here?
Starting point is 01:25:49 And it's... I have to give him some fucking... I went back in... That's why you invited me here. All castings are coming now. I went back in and... I think the road is the goal. And if you think that...
Starting point is 01:26:03 If you keep digging down because you're not where you thought you should be... Sorry, I don't know. That's what's so nice. When you don't have any goals or dreams, that's what's so nice. And I have been there. Believe me, I have been there. I thought I had it good and I should have been there. Yesterday I did a show with some TikTokers and they were like, the worst feeling is when you get a hit and you get 50 000 or 100 000 views, and the other one you get 1000. And then you feel like you are nothing and everyone hates you. And you are like, wow, that feeling is never... It must be so crazy. The phase of that is that it is a failed, not life, but a failed direction in life.
Starting point is 01:26:39 You have the right to... Because again, I have repeated it many times, I know, there was a documentary on Netflix, that went on this with... The hypothesis was that there is a bubble in this whole social media world, which means that it will now just pop up more and more bubbles, day by day. And they will be zero every next swing. You have seen this in the USA. There was an interview with the old Weinstein. What are you doing now? What you do is that you reach the top. And in the USA, when you reach the top, it is millions of crowns in a few years.
Starting point is 01:27:17 But what happens when the bubble bursts and you are done? And Wein does not exist anymore? And you have reached the highest goal in life. That is, and it is very much applicable, so if you follow the path, and think a little bit about the term, the path of the goal thing, I think of those classics, the path of the goal,
Starting point is 01:27:36 all those days that came and went, I am not good at living after that, but I try, because that is kind of nice. That was actually for me, that half-tonne. As long as you feel happy and happy, and I think you are a nice guy, and everyone thinks you are a nice guy, and you have a good mood, why is it bad? It's just that. It's just a weird thought I usually have. If you had asked me when I was 15, I had a lot of dreams. It's a small wine, but if you put a gigantic bottle of wine in the wine, the wine will suck the wine in. Exactly what is in the glass.
Starting point is 01:28:11 We have a little bit of a toast. It's smoked. It's damn good. It's been a pleasure talking to you. I support the Skårudrud theory, which was in the movie One Glass More. That we are born with... We must have... We are born with minus zero point... What was it? Minus in the promille, I think. That it just...
Starting point is 01:28:34 It didn't go so well with those guys in that movie, but I was very... Moral is a little too... A little too... A little too well done. I think that the moral must be that it works very poorly for some people, but very well for others. But again, if I had believed in it 100%, I would have drank half a bottle of wine. That's it. Now it's not even a goal. Now I'm wavy and calm and happy.
Starting point is 01:29:00 That's very good. And then... The art is there. What are we going to do now? That's exactly it. Now we can say that... I don't know what we haven't planned, but we can say that we have to hurry a bit now. And then we notice that... Then we get convinced. Then we get convinced that we're just going around and say, okay, now we have to keep this up.
Starting point is 01:29:19 Then it's done. So you have to take that bottle of wine once in a while, and then you have to appreciate what I give you, and then you have to give it to them. Exactly, because I have already thought about it now, I have a sexer at home, which I don't have, so I know what's going on. And I have, not child-free, but I could get you a child today, which I didn't do today. You didn't. And then it became wine and podcast, and now we'll see how the road goes. Nice! A pleasure to talk to you. Thank then we'll do a podcast, and now we'll see how the road goes. Nice!
Starting point is 01:29:46 It's a pleasure to talk to you. Thank you very much, Matnur. It's very nice. And thank you for listening. And we hope to see you on the show. And come to Storytime. Storytime, 4th of October. On the new stages.
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