Fladseth - #209 - Nora Angeltveit

Episode Date: September 27, 2024

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I am ready. Before I used to sing and do stuff at the start. My new thing is that I take the guest and myself off guard and push the R on the right. I am stressed out. Ily, do zero research. It's not one note, not one word. I see. And that also makes me put some demands on the guest to pull some strings. This is not an interview with Nora Angel-Twight, who is visiting here now. I see that you are holding me in the chair. I'm holding you in the chair.

You are a little confused because you have been on the Norwegian Games. Don't you come from the Norwegian Games? No, but almost. Do you? No, I don't like that. I just try to be cool. I have become a mother and I am still on the Norwegian Games. You are on the Norwegian Games to work on your image.

You are sleeping like a baby, but you have to be here now. I had to push myself in yesterday when I worked hard. Where were you first and where did you end up and what the hell happened? First I was at a premiere show for a new Chinese film called Elskling, which was a really great film, about a break-up, so I just sat there and grinded. And then it was right in Viggo Vemba, who had a premiere on a new documentary on NRK. I was there too. Were you?

I came, got a yellow vest, got my opening show, if you can call it that, and the first episode started, and then I went down on that Rybak came in and filled the bucket. Yes, it was then I came in and said, Okay, thanks, this is the movie, finished and so on. And then I thought, okay, that was it for tonight. And then he talked about something like, this is been a fairytale, says Viggo. Then Rybak came in with the fan and all that stuff. And then it took it all. Reflex vests that he threw down from the ceiling. Then you had to think, evening you have to dress up.

Damn, this is a good evening. I found out that he had asked Rybak the day before, if it would be fun if everyone said that we look alike, can't you just come on stage and say, hey, here is Rybak and then go out again? And Rybak said, maybe we should just take a fairytale? He did, yes. He understands what we want from him. Yes, yes. So that was the atmosphere. It was very fun. And then, you know, Narsbill is... I'm done with Narsbill. I was a Narsbill man.

In my old age. Yes, I love Narsbill. But I have been a bit like half Narsbill with you, haven't I? Yes, but it's probably many years ago, you know. It happens that I take I have met Narspill, but I feel that I am... I get so tired. It's funny that you say, because you were a guest in my podcast, and you say that you don't go out and stuff, but I have met you out quite a bit the last time, at Karaoke last Saturday, you were there and...

I didn't say that I wasn't out. That would have been a real lie. Okay, so it's just Narspill that you drop? Narspill. Yes, but that's maybe too early. Because I was was your podcast about children last week. Yes. It doesn't come before October.

I don't know when it will come. I said I wouldn't talk about children or be part of a podcast about children. It was my fourth child podcast. Congratulations. I don't have a podcast about children. It was my fourth child podcast. So it's nice to talk about it now and then. I don't feel like I talk about it that much as usual. It's good because it's a field you shouldn't go into. And just talk about your children is the worst. But what happened?

Nora, I missed the opportunity to be on stage. I have never come back from Bali time. Okay. It was several years ago I was there. Yes. But then I got a jet lag, which made it around 10 o'clock. I was there with Lars Berrum and Elise Tonga. And you can ask them.

At 10 o'clock my eye lids started to open and close. And then I was done. I couldn't get up. Vodka, Red Bull and everything. Nothing got me up in the stage. And I have never come back. So you are going to bed at 10 o'clock? I am very tired. I get very tired. But can you go to bed then? No, I never go to bed at 10 o'clock. But if I am out, that is when it happens.

Oh yes. Yes. It needs more excitement, maybe. When do you go to bed? When I'm not out and stuff. I try to put on 11, it rarely happens. 12 maybe. I'm fixing, arranging and making sure my wife puts on time. A little pussy. Of course, she probably wakes up and takes her clothes off. My wife is lying down and doing shit. A little pussy.

Of course, she gets up and takes the kid and stuff. She really loses her shit. That's sad. And I am… The bus should be lifted so it should… Oh, you have a dog now. … so it should be arranged. You don't beat me like a dog person. Oh, am I a dog person now?

Are you? Yes, if you fucking are. I am a cat person. I think it's creepy, to be honest. – People say that, but I don't understand. You have to pick up the trash to the dog and go out at 6 am and go with it. It smells bad. The cat is just there to do it himself. – As I was saying, it's better to pick up a dog shit in the news than to look into the cat's No, I don't see dogs in the way they are.

They are smart, they know what they are doing, they take the dog and show it to the dog, and it is completely obvious. Why is that? It is completely... what is it called? Why is that? Because they hate people, they exploit us, but they have a violent hatred and a bitter hatred. It is so funny, because those who are dog people dog people hate cats, but I who like cats can also tolerate dogs.

I don't hate cats, I'm just a little angry. Because the cat gang has no... there are no cat restrictions, there are no laws, but they eat everything that can be eaten by animals and everything they get caught in. And they are not dogs, they eat everything that is left over from the animals and everything they get caught in And they eat their own poop? Yes, but very few dogs eat animals, but we have to have a bandage and a towel all the time The cats eat the small animals, so we have to suffer for the cats' bad behavior towards the animals Yes, that's a bit sad, the cat has come home with a couple of owls. Newfound. Rassørl, owls. Rassørl, owls. Rassørl, owls. That's how it goes.

Okay, I'll put it down. Eat, drink a little bit. Rassørl, owls. Rassørl, owls. Rassørl, owls. Drinking water. Drinking water. That's how it goes. That's life for a cat. I learn a bit about cats because you have a pet and a pet. That's never a nice thing to do. I used to live in Bjørvika, and then I had a pet. Then we moved to Norrstaen, and then he became a pet.

So I hear him at night, and he's fighting outside the window. Because he hasn't met many other cats cats, he hates all other animals. I remember one time we were... I had a friend who passed away late in the evening, many years ago. And then we got insight into the cat's secret world. We were in the middle of a neighbourhood, where it was like being in a David Attenborough documentary. It felt like there were 50 cats sitting on each of their knuckles, or mountain knuckles, and makinganing and marking their territory. And they were yelling and screaming at each other.

We saw that they were talking to each other, and that they were a Swedish gang that had a line close by. And then there was someone who started to go into the gladiator ring to fight, and then it was out again. It's hell to drive. They are cool. There is something wrong with that, of course. I think it's really cool with cats, lions, tigers and...

That's cool? Yes, I do that too. I just think that cats are ungrateful. They are more ungrateful. Some cats are really nice and they come and caress my legs. Then I scratch them a bit behind their ears. Okay, so it's not like... Absolutely not. I don't hate cats. I just think a lot of them are outcasts. Because here, what do we do for them? But they don't really appreciate what we do for them.

They are kind of angry because we have domesticized them. We would rather be free. We never asked for this. For me, I have a cat as a child. I like my own cat, but I don't like other cats. Like with kids. Maybe a little bit more. I have the right before you came, so I googled. We did a research. Yes, I'm excited. It was nothing else than that you have had a child. Yes, thatled it. We did a research. It was nothing but that we have had a child. Yes, that's it.

There is so much. North Angel Tov has given birth, baby happiness, baby happiness, baby happiness. We talked so much about that. Why the hell is that the best people know how to read, because they write... I saw one the other day who had a child, who was so perfect and far out in... who the hell was he? But even one who is completely unknown. Even I am not so known. The difference between VG and now, hit the jackpot? You have different... You are known among younger people, right? Yes But there are a lot of older people who are camping and are like Who the hell is Nora Angel-Twight? Who cares about that? I understand that very well

Yes, but what they often say is, who the hell is Nora Angel-Twight? I don't know who she is, I don't care But when it comes to having a baby, they say Who the hell is Nora Angelveit? I don't care about her, but I think she's interesting. No matter who she is. She's so cute anyway. Was it a lot of work when you were going to be a dad? Yes. Yes, it was.

Yes, it was. I had to work as a fan to minimize... I think it's very lazy. Very lazy to describe things like that. I feel that people out there don't know what those mechanisms are, so they think that I have called in. Yes, that's exactly it. Then I just want to say that I have a a child. And then it's baby luck here. Yes, then it's just writing about it. No, it's completely wrong. I don't understand that interest, as you say. Why is it that no matter where A or O is known, it's going to be about having a child?

I feel I have a good tone with most of these journalists, and made it very clear that we are here on loan time. Once you cross a line, it is boycott. Once. So I give a lot now. I say that if it is on some premiere and such. Once you fuck up this, we are done. I feel it helps a little. So when I had a child, I kept it for a very long time. I said no, don't write about this. It's private. I'm not interested in that. And then I had talked about it in my own... I think I posted it on Instagram. And then they can write about it. Because then I have already gone public with it. So then they said, now we can't keep it back, unfortunately.

Now you have written it, now we have to write it. Yes, but it was the same thing, I posted it on Instagram, and then it clicked. Then it happened. How is the form? Do you think it looks good and well-made? Do you think so? I don't sleep, so I don't feel like contributing much. I have to come back sometime. Shouldn't we have some wine? No, the wine clock is fucking... I have heard that Richter Matheian is a podcast host.

We should drink some wine. I thought we should get some nice Montrachet. Should we repair it? Are you drinking beer? I'm drinking beer. Should we take a morning beer? Maybe it helps. Should we take a morning beer?

The coffee doesn't work. No, wait. I'll be right back. Okay, yes. It was a bit... It was a bit of a close call, both of you. – Yes, yes. I picked up two blue beers. – Lovely. The fruit, the long beer. Oh, that's nice. – And then we have to... We're in minus... Cheers? – Cheers.

We're in minus... minus in promille. I believe in that one more glass of Skåredru stuff. I love it. But I feel... there is no doubt that it's fantastic. I feel like my life was like this before I was a child. I was a little on promille all the time. It was nice. Yes, of course it was nice. Yes, it was nice. Yes, yes. And before... Now you have so many obligations, so if I go to Fylla and get this down-tour the next day, and get dressed and such, then it's all like, and then I have to do this and that, and then I had to... I didn't have that before, I could just live, I just knew I didn't have any obligations, no matter what. Just go out and relax.

It makes it worse that you have obligations. Then you cry down and say, damn, that's what it is. It's painful. Everyone says, you told me that you get happier when you have kids and stuff. But I don't know. The kids make me very happy, but they also take away all the happiness from you. You feel that the baby gives you a lot of happiness, but all the happiness around you is taken away from you. I'm going to the end of the podcast. I have the term coin, is that what you say? Coin is a term.

Yes. And if I had been a psychologist, this would have been my legacy. What I have been known for, what I understand as the prison of love. I will try to write some articles about it as well, but it's too deep for articles. I have to work hard, work hard, do it for fun. Love addiction is about that if you have a child, you put yourself in a prison of love, where you have so much love for this child, that you are trapped in that love, and you don't get out to the other love. No, that's exactly it.

So you are trapped in everything you do for the sake of the child. I would have done more for my child now, when he is 2 years old, than when he was 0-1. I wouldn't have had that much of a heart. If he had been burnt, I would be unsure about it. But it takes some time. Should I risk my life to run in there and get him out? Or should I just run straight out? Then I can start from scratch again and go full speed and go with the boys again. But now you are more fond of your son than your wife?

Yes, it's very difficult to pick out like that, because you are a part of the same. I am more fond of my son than my wife. Will I save my son or my wife? I thought so, I thought so. I have to break out of here, Nora. We are starting to talk here. I thought about it like, okay, let's say that she is a virgin towards me or my son. I love my boyfriend, but I don't think I would have taken a shot at him. But if someone had a view on my son, I would have jumped at him. You know what? I'm sure that my wife would have said the same thing. She wouldn't have said,

Take a shot at him, Janor! And I have never seen what could have happened. But would she have jumped if someone had aimed at you? Would she have thrown herself over and shot you? I don't think so. But I think that's so stupid. Who is so rare to get the opportunity to do that? I'm going to start arguing with a friend of mine. I was at Skygum and there was a guy who took his hand in the jacket. I was like, okay, he has a gunner. Tonight it's going to happen. We're going to dive, and then he says, relax, I have taken a shot for you. And I am like, what are you saying? Are you going to be able to take the gunner and throw it over me in slow mo? This is the lady of my best friend, I throw myself over and take a shot. I just understand that it doesn't work. But it's like saying that I take a shot for you. A childish one. Very childish.

To see from a slow-mo, and if you take a shot for someone, it happens without you thinking. It goes on the outside, it goes far inside. And the best movies also have this type where it doesn't become slow-mo, and it's very fast. In the best movies, it just happens. Suddenly you think that there is one that has been shot, and then no, there is one that has gone in front of him. It's like the Fuse-themed thing. He went in front of him, he took the bullet. Are you someone who loves action movies?

No, not at all. What are your favorite movies? I mean, pure action movies, I couldn't care less. it. I loved the old Star Wars movies for example. The old ones? When you took the time to paint the landscape and the universe. Do you like those dune movies? Yes, I can get to that. And it was the first time I noticed that the films changed from the start, they used some time to create, to get familiar with the characters and the universe,

they differed a little bit in nature, to the point that everything was just a transport stage, that something would happen all the time to adapt to the young viewers. And then it became like, I remember watching the Star Wars movies, the newest ones, Rogue One and whatever the hell they were called, totally uninteresting. Totally uninteresting. So there must be something more. I must be able to, and that is standard classical story telling technique, that you have to be known with the main characters, or the main characters, to be able to break you. So that is totally dependent on those things. So I like pure action and just follow, like I have never seen, for example, John Wick. You haven't? No. I couldn't see that you liked that.

I couldn't see it. I can't see that I can like it. Okay. But I've heard that it's good. You couldn't? No. You couldn't watch it? I couldn't watch it. I can't watch it. I can like it. Okay. But I've heard it's good. Yes, it's good. But it's just that guy, Keanu Reeves, running around and it's action, action, action. Yes, but it's like another type of movie. I think it's good. It gives you a chance. Maybe I should watch John Wick.

Now I should watch John Wick. When the ladies are sleeping and you're sitting up there, I can watch John Wick. I can. I have a lot on my list. I have a to watch John Wick. Are you ready? When the ladies are sleeping and you're going to sit up, you can watch John Wick. I'm ready. I have a lot on my list. I have a lot on my list. John Wick can't make it to the top 10. It's Norwegian time. No, there are other things you can do before that. Before that I have some video games in my game. Oh, you have a gamer? Yes, I like to watch video games. And now it's Frostpunk. It's a comedian, Anders Olsen, in Stavanger, you know.

He is bald as a rake. And has a red beard. There are many comedians. And he is a very old man and funny guy. And he recommended playing Frostpunk. What I did yesterday, for example, I watched the gameplay of it. That others played it. And I dreamed about it.

And I think it's really cool. That you are a dad, it's insane that you have time for such things. I don't have any! But did you just say that you watch other people play? Yes, I can do that. That's insane! Yes, you can do that. Imagine if I had time to do such things.

But you can, it was on the bedside. Okay. And that was... I am so afraid that my son will become a gamer. Are you afraid of that? Yes, a little. I saw many of the kids who start out, it's a bit of a close-up of the statue, and then there are cheese-pop-rests. You are more afraid of everything around.

Yes, I think so. Everything around. Put your hair in cheese-pop, you are afraid of everything around you. Yes, I think so. Hair, cheese, you are afraid of everything. Not even gaming. Just sitting on the couch and playing with each other. Imagine he is dressing well, and I think you film each other when you are playing with each other. So then you dress up a bit, and there are ladies and boys playing and he flirts with the players. He is very good, you see, you flex your muscles while he is gaming. That's another type, you can like that.

Stian will try to get gaming to be cool and stuff, right? Yes, but at the same time he has made himself a lot less cool. So there is no winning over the excitement. No, no. No one thought about that. I am much less cool. So there is no winning or losing. No winning. No winning. Playing has not become cool, and he has not become cool either. Rather the opposite. So it's okay. The Norwegian national team is a very good thing.

And gaming is very important for many who have felt left out and who have suffered. So I think that's a very nice thing. I'm very fond of gaming, but I'm also very fond of parents regulating everything from gaming to social media. When did we start letting children decide things? Children shouldn't be your voice! Children should be totally slaves to the adults until they are 18 years old. Totally conservative. It should be nothing! And people start talking about 16 year olds getting voting rights and stuff. What? Should 18 year olds have voting voice? Shouldn't we wait many more years? Yes, absolutely. And then it's like, parents say, what do you want? Do you want this or that? Or when do you want to do it? Here, this is what you should eat,

and now you should say yes or no. Don't give a lot of choices to the child, what do you think, and what do you feel about it? It's probably nice that we have started to take in that, but I agree a little, that children are a are like dogs. We are putting you on the edge now, of course. It's nice that you saved me.

The most pathetic thing, the most idiotic thing I've heard about, and it's a fact, is that the teachers and parents have lost control in the classrooms and the classrooms, and the children have taken over, and are holding the teachers hostage. Because you can't physically punish them, it's something fine. But you haven't been allowed to take it away, to take a little bit in the shoulders, no, now you're putting it down. You haven't been allowed to do anything, you haven't been allowed to be close to the children, isn't that so? I think so, and I haven't seen it in practice. It's been a long time since I worked at the kindergarten. I did what I did as a teacher, and then a guy threw a big bag in my face,

and then I was like, what the fuck is going on? He took it in his arm and pulled it towards me, towards another guy who was taller than me in the hierarchy, and then and just sat in front of me and stood there. What the hell do you think he threw a grouse in my face? And then I get to talk! What? I get to talk! Oh, damn! I would have been so mad at those kids. I get to talk!

It's insane, because you had taken so hard, Takan. Yes, but that... I would have been a little scared of you as a teacher, and now you have to change me. I was the world's kindest teacher. I can whistle, but I'm never in front of a child. It's not a fever in me. There he comes! There comes Jim. The streak is ruined. We had a two episode streak with him, and then it was out again the last time, and now it's back in. Very good. And you took an alcohol free beer to be part of the show. Do you hear me now? Yes, yes.

I think I have pulled out... No, damn it. 1 think I dropped a centimeter. Now it works. Now I'm on my own. And I have some goodies. You have an alcohol frill. I started buying some things called No Worries. Have you heard of it?

It's actually the best I've tasted of alcohol-free beer so far. It is, yes. An alcohol-free union is not so stupid, you know. Yes. It's a nice, nice taste. When I was younger, I thought it was the hardest thing I could think of. When I saw older people who drank alcohol-free beer, I was like took an alcohol beer. I am glad I have it. I tasted it myself, I knew how beer tasted. It was like, not so tough, it's so damn good, you are a grown up loser. You are not so fond of beer. So I thought, it's the alcohol you should have.

This one is not so bad. I have more to say if you want to taste it. I am a bit like you. It didn't happen when I was younger. Then I was outcasted many times, of course. But it's so shitty, I get to be a child and stuff, right? To have an alcohol-free community in between, of course, so shitty nerds. When I was younger I thought, alcohol-free community? I thought it was a nerd and when I was younger I thought, alcohol free. I wanted to, I thought it was a defeat. Alcohol free.

But now I think having an alcohol free meal in a lunch. That's not good. I'm not a fan of mocktails. When I was pregnant I would rather take a Pepsi Max and sit with a mocktail or a coke-free beer. I can respect that too, because I taste better than a mocktail. I do. All that sugar you have to put in, you won't get full. I didn't necessarily think of mocktails or alcohol-free beer.

Take a Pepsi Max, just that it's not alcohol. It's water. But if you have something else than water, you can have it as a drink you paid for. Water is not the same. You have to ignore that. We have to follow the thread we were on, Jim. Now you are getting right into it. You have been contributing so far in your comeback. But now you are getting into more boring topics than we were on. Okay, that was very stupid. You can ask why I didn't come here. And it was more boring than a child?

It says a lot! It says a lot! I thought we shouldn't talk about children in this podcast, but we get into it every time. Yes, what I was going to say is a bit funny. We talked about... Why didn't you put the topic down? No, but we were in the middle. The teachers and parents lost control over the children, and that is incredibly pathetic, of course. And when we found out that this was a good idea, and that everyone should not be given power, it was the children.

Children should not be given power. And I have thought for a long time that we as adults should be treated like kids, because kids have their stupid day-dream trends, that people are looking up to, and that are in the wind right now. And what are they called? I Love Speed, and Logan Pauls, and everything they are called, Sabrina Carpentro I can't keep up with all that, but I notice, and annoy myself, I notice that young people look down on me and then I become the old man who doesn't keep up with the times I think you namedrop a good name I do, but... It was a good name

I keep up with the drop, I can follow it now. And what I tell the kids, and when I do it outside, I say, I let them hold on, this is how it's been, the kids have always been like this. What I really want to say, Sidsum, is, listen to me, you little rotten shit, do you think you have any control over me for a second? You have lived for two seconds. What do you think is the most important thing? To have a Snapchat streak? Or to have the experience of being in Thailand at a jungle party? And being bullied and raped and dragged through the jungle?

To have that experience, that lifestyle What do you think you give the most to ex-boyfriends in life? To have a snap, a chest streak, to know who to listen to, to listen to Sabrina Carpenter, and to drink... what is the name of the drink for Paul Logan? Prime, yes To drink Prime? Yes Or to have... to experience life here. What is the most important thing? Do you think it's more important to know...

...say one of the hottest names? Me? I'm a millennial, I don't know anything. Haktor? Haktor? Is it more important to know who Haktor is? Or Karl Marx? Do you think? What the hell? That's what I want to say. And then I get the time. If I have to sit in a bunch of times, so that everyone gets it with me, I can't say this many times.

I have to sit in a bunch of times, so that everyone gets it with me, I have to slap everyone. And then I say, fuck me, just bow down and respect the hierarchy here because you didn't do anything stupid. Fuck off. I have to admit that I am a bit obsessed with my snap streak. No, not with that. I am bitter, and sometimes I send so much shit just to keep the flame going. Do you understand? Yes, I understand what you mean.

How powerful those who develop it are? That's exactly what they want. They have researched this and they have so much... It's like when you are on the hook, it says how powerful that girl is. There are TikTok trends and what people hate about millennials, us as a generation, how bad we are... How old are you? – I'm years old. 90?! Damn, 90?! I'm talking to you for a completely wrong reason! What do you think? I'm talking to you as if you were a fucking child! No!

No, no! Get out! Or I'm sleeping that you were younger. Yes, but that's okay, that's a compliment. I didn't know what any of these names were or anything you were younger Yes, that's a compliment I didn't know what your names were Because it's so fucking huge You've become a mother And you're so young

And I've become a mother And you're over 30 years old Young mother of 34 years old I'm over 34 years old? I thought you were 23 I thought you were... You look a bit young Yes, I look young too

That's nice You're quite old Yes, I'm quite old, as you can see Old? No, sorry, now... But apart from that with the kids, I was on the flat last week, we talked with some 18 year olds in the first row And then the conference room talked to them, and you could tell how crazy they were. They just couldn't answer a normal question. They looked down at their phones when someone asked them a question.

Like, what's your name? What are you doing? You know? I don't know what you're working with. But… they are just crazy. They are completely social. Because they are on the phone all the time, and they don't write messages anymore. They just say something, and then you just pick up the phone and say something, and then they put it down again and are like, huh? Where are you? What are you talking about? That's actually what I noticed when you started with that on the bus and at cafes, and you were talking on the phone to send messages. Yes, they don't send messages and they don't talk on the phone. Everyone is afraid of the phone. And no one is able to see each other in the eyes while they are are talking. They are very afraid to see each other in the eyes. Totally right, Nora. The best example of how hurt they are is this, when you are on stage.

Because you don't see older people sitting on the phone. You understand to a certain extent that it is very unreasonable. If older people do it, they are shit. And then they just sit there and whine, and they are gone. But younger people, they look down at their phones, and when you comment on it, when you take them on it, they see you as if their life is being pulled from each other. Because they don't understand that there is something wrong with that. They think it's a positive thing. They have sent a snap of you on stage, right? And just, now I'm doing something really cool and you want to show it to your friends. And then you are caught on that it's what the hell you are doing. They are completely pecking themselves in the face. It's quite interesting to see.

They can't understand that there is something wrong. They don't understand that it's polite. Because it's more natural for them to do it and not to do it. How much screen time do you have? Not much. Not much. I have more than maybe three hours. Three? That's nothing. In a day? Yes, it's in a day. I think it's a lot.

I work a bit with social media, so I feel I can learn from it. I was on the road for 6 hours. Oh, damn it! What did you do? I don't know. I don't know. I was snapping and... Look what I had to do. My whole car is black and white. And the reason for that is... I have Instagram on the first page. I clicked on it, and I get a little dizzy, but everything is black.

So it's not fun anymore. Welcome to 2021, Jim. Yes, thanks. I remember it was a thing. I heard about it now. Yes, it was a thing. I started to remove the apps, because it's the colors that lure you in, you automatically click on them. The seconds before, for example on Instagram, before they show the feed, it triggers that you look forward to seeing the feed.

So you have to push the push bars? Yes, that's what I mean. Because then I go right in the direction. I mean that, I haven't had push bars for... I think I'll be talking about 5-6 years soon. And I have to say that for everyone who has pushpads, get something the fuck out of them. It is completely unthinkable for me to have pushpads. If you are in a company, a dinner is just hanging, and you have your phone with the screen up, and there is some light, and you look at the other phone, pushpads from Vegas, all kinds of stuff. You don't understand how idiotic that is.

All the app developers want you to have push bars in your mouth all the time, because then you use it more. So if you just take all the push bars, you cut that string, and you take from them the power they have over you, and then you are in your own Lord, or Lord are in control of the situation. But do you always wear soundproof? Yes, always.

Because if you have sound on your phone, then you are old. Yes, damn, then we have a problem. Yes, isn't that so? There were some who had been with some Gen Z kids, and they had on sound, and I thought, is there someone who has sound on their phone? It's insane to it on sound. I thought, is there anyone who has sound on their phone? It's insane to have it on sound. They have to have it on soundless. But it's because I'm on the phone all the time, so they see if someone rings. But I also think it's very annoying with the vibration. If you have it on the table and it vibrates,

I might be more annoyed than with the sounds. I'm very clear with you, if you can have the screen on vibration. Shut up! Turn off the screen on vibrate. Yes. Shut! Turn the phone off with vibrate. But it's very nice, if you just have the phone on, if you have it, even if you turn it off, it doesn't help what it does in a way that you show that the other person is more uninteresting. Yes, yes. If you are on a date and you both have the phone on, then it makes it that a lot of your brain really wants to check the check the phone instead of having a conversation with your girlfriend.

So you have to put it down, especially if you are going to be with friends and girlfriend, always keep the phone away. Not just the phone. That's well said. We have to be... We have to be... Because now we are all... Jim and I are older, but we are not that far from each other. We are a generation. even if you start to... Are you talking about 500? No! No! No, not that. I'm 42.

So it's in the lower half. But it's not that far. It's not nice. You own and run a conglomerate, so it's a hyponeric media company. I try to get children, but I have to find a wife first. Oh, okay. I tried for 10 years. It's not in the stock market. I don't know if it's not in the stock market. I have no evidence that it's not in the stock market.

It's not Iris Grunberg. No, it's not. I hope so. It's fun to check it out. How? No, no. You know how it is. Just go and check it out.

I think no, because I don't want to have that answer. You know what? Now I'm going to say something a bit on the edge. But it's real, it's true. It's life itself. I didn't know I had crud in my ass. Before I had been holding on to my girlfriend. And then she said something like, and it was a little break up, and I was like, I've been pregnant. And I know it's your child. And then she said something like that.

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So I just dropped the pills and went to the hospital for two weeks. That's why I got pregnant. And then of course the first type of people I see, like, completely serious, it could happen that I have a fucking good brain. That's the first thing I thought. It's me, not you. Are you married to the stereotypical? Yes, yes, yes. Damn! I am married to a finance man, a blue man, and conspiracy theorists. You mean the one with the flexing mirror?

A little bit. I understand that. There are some people, because I have a friend, who said that women get pregnant just by looking at them. That's so bad. And it's something like that. It's a wonder about your own self, your person, that you are so powerful, that you just look at girls and they get pregnant. But do you think that you live in a man's heart, that you are proud of that? I think I had that ability. I don't think I have the chance to test it properly. But if I knew that a woman got pregnant just by dipping her dick in, I would have been a bit proud of that. Could you? Yes, it's a bit like...

If not status, it's more like a quality stone. You are... It's the purpose of life, or at least the purpose of being a human. So initially, it's to form. That the balls work and then... You have to roll, and you have to roll, and you is to form. That the balls work and then... You have to roll, and you have to roll, and you have to roll. You have to have as many possible departures, and then you go there. So when you get too old, nature wants you to die as fast as possible, because then you are not able to form as much.

Then you will die of sickness and everything. It is special that you are a woman, that I get to know that I am too old to have children, because I am 34. While dad became a father when he was 54 or something. You can have children until you are 100 years old as a man. It is strange that you have made so many differences. Nora is the daughter of... what is it called it? The daughter of... The daughter of... The daughter of... The daughter of... The daughter of... The daughter of...

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There are many who give a damn about it. And there are also many who have a certain degree of bitterness in them, and wants to see it, wants to see the development. And your father is one of them. He is really good. Yes, that's nice. We can't write jokes together, because we have very different humor. Yes, that's how it is. That's how it is. I never, damn, never write jokes with my father either. It's very strange to write, because we have sexual preferences. We discuss things like, what should I say, and then I promise with his brother.

No, maybe I should say, maybe you fuck his brother. Yes, fuck is a better word than... Yes, I'm going to fuck, maybe put more pressure on it. Then we sit and discuss every kind of... It can be strange. Yes, it can be a bit strange, but now it's a bit normal. You have done it once in a while. Yes, just like I have, we have discussed the subject.

And you forget the meaning of the words a bit. Yes, but you do. Ravpulling, or a bit more conservative anal sex, dad? I will say ravpulling. Is it the right way? Yes, because you put a bit of pressure on the fox, it will be better. Hey Nora, sit down, there are so many pig words. Take it easy and say he has all sex here. But he goes on the wrong side, he can have very sexual jokes, and once I have one small gray,

if it's a woman who has a little… isn't it a bit uncharming with women and sex? And I'm like, Hi, have you seen your set? It's just a hug and... But he is the one who agrees that girls shouldn't talk about it, and it's so disgusting with girls who talk about sex. Yes, a bit. Yes, but it's the same thing. But that's because when girls start out with Huma Karsha and him in the 90's, they would go over the boys a lot. They would be double and drowsy, and it was just the men and the girls. It was like, okay, we understand that you are funny, but you can't just be drowsy. You have to be funny too. But that overcompensation, I agree with it, I don't like it either.

If you are just standing there and become a product of that you are going to get yourself in, get yourself into an old sin, and then you are just going to do the worst, it will be overcompensation. And it's the same as if you are ugly, or if you have dark skin, or if you do... Then you use your whole set to just throw yourself under the bus on that, then it will also be overcompensation. Take one sick person and then will get to the good stuff. I agree. That's the nice balance in that, I think. I don't agree with that.

Jim? Yes? What happened? I found a picture of your dad. Yes. And I have seen him a lot. Yes. I saw you together in a picture too.

What? Yes. This. Yes. Yes, this one. Yes, oh, that was very fresh and nice. It sounded very nice. We stood together on stand-up for the first time. Did you? Very cozy. We actually had a NEPO show last week, was it?

It was with me and my dad, and then it was Jonny Kristiansen and his daughter, Andrea, and then it was Tommy Steine and his son, and Bård Tufte Hansen and his son. It was during the festival at the Sofines Reco Festival. I was without a bra and did stand-up myself, but I didn't see it. No, it was a fun evening. It's starting to get a bit... I don't know if I've met Sønne Te Steine. No, he hasn't stood up so many times, but he was actually very good. So when Iriya was in the band, you were there, and then you have the daughter of Johnny Kristiansen, Johnny K, has been a guest on this show. Yes. Andrea, Andrea, and then came in.

Andrea must come in, because she was young and saw Steine on the show every year, and suddenly she started with Stand Up Cell. And then she just got with it a little. I didn't think she would be anything without it. I didn't know what she had inside. Now she is holding on like hell. It's very fun. She is very good.

Can I ask something? Who was last? And then it was? Søn The Thomas Thein. Yes, Erikstad. And Zacharias. We four. Can you get more flabby when you are with your father?

No, I think everyone felt more pressure. I think we kids, down to the kids, we felt that we had to be at least as good as our parents. I would have felt more pressure if am on my way out now, or I just fart out and scream and just blow up the house. But then I felt it. A young Theodor Julflaatset comes there and no one laughs at me. I felt it. I have said that I am Andrea Löfvland, who is the daughter of Johan Kristiansen. What is it with our ancestors? We always get messages if I am on the ladder, like, oh damn I am on the ladder, I killed it, everyone loved me, I did so well. And if I am like, Andrea says, yes we stood and it went well. But when I am standing, oh damn, audience, the audience cried, just came after me. So it is like, they are going to prove to us, the kids, how damn good they are.

We are like, it's nice dad. It's sick, because there have been two generations with attention-sick bastards, who are completely hurt, and who are going to get attention and self-realization. It's hanging, because I noticed after the show as well, that Andrea and I sit backstage and have fun, while Tommy Steine and Dad and Jørn go out in the audience to see if there is anyone who wants to comment or if there are any pictures we have. I understand that you have it, but I don't have a snowy deme. Is it not? No, because I get more, I think it's more than enough to get the confirmation on the stage. It's fun. And then everything is done. And I like to always go straight from the stage.

So I give like this, thanks for me, a couple of winks, book a little, comment. If there is ever a running gag through the show, I comment on it, and never on, never on. Never give the opportunity to clap a bit, to... To come out again and so on? No, I never talk about it. Not alone. Together with an ensemble, a group, I can do it. Because it's nice when we are together, but then we have to choreograph it. And then we have to go straight out and then we stand right behind the stage carpet and then straight in again. Because you can't... we risk that the applause will kill him. That's the worst.

That's not nice. But then it's the female law that's I take so much space, that I get to be extra... To be extra round with the attention I get. In addition to all the attention I get, I get a bit lazy about it. So I would rather... There is a bit of a weakness in it, that I think it's a bit lazy to take too much space. Look at me, look at me. But in the beginning, when you started with Stand Up and got the attention, didn't you think it was fun then? Yes, I think it was a bit fun.

Isn't it that many men start to become comedians, because they know they get to lie down more and get more attention? Yes, it's helpful to get away from it. It's crazy, isn't it strange? No, it's not strange. Girls love men who stand on stage and have statues and such. It's strange. Yes, exactly. And at least girls who make you laugh. But if you are a comedian and you don't get girls to laugh, you don't get a pool? Yes, because you are a comedian, that the female animal will have a man who is physically stronger and can take care of both the female and the offspring, Biologically, it is programmed to just roll, spit in a seed, pull out an old seed with the seedling. I like that you said it with a bit of an old rap. And then the kids got better.

And I used to say that when Theodor and the younger ones, and Oda and they came and just came and did these cute things, I had a guy who often said to me, shut up, you are programmed to do cute things now, so I won't be the one to rummage around the streets and fuck you. Don't you dare to fool me! That's something they said. Girls don't get any more boobs even they are comedians, I think. You don't believe that? No, we have seen that several times.

Women get so much hate, and that makes them... I've got that, I have to say. Never. The big problem is that women, and especially women who take extra space, and who do humour in the same way as other riled up guys who never get anything. You see Martha Leivestad driving the roast of Oscar Westelin, and she gets insanely much hate. You got that? No. Insanely much hate.

Because she takes a place in a way. And the sickest thing is that she does the rose very well. It's very funny and fun, but all the positive is overlaid by all the hate. It's like a union of men who are going to break her, and we don't tolerate this. We don't tolerate women taking part in this way. So that's a huge problem. I think it's about taking part. Because there are some... Now I'm not close to someone as big as them. So I thought maybe that's why, if I had been as big, I would have gotten more hate. But it's also something that maybe some of the girls have... Was it a fat, sick comment? No, absolutely not. It was that they talk a lot more about themselves on stage.

I understand. I don't get lied to, I don't get pulled, I'm ugly and I'm fake and stuff. But I don't have self-irony about myself, I talk about completely different things. It's easier to take girls like, oh you say you're fake and no one wants you and stuff. Then it's much easier to say the same things to you, because you have a self-esteem for that. But if you don't mention it... I don't know, I had a theory that it could be that. I don't know exactly what triggers it most, but I think it is that... It is a very often bitter at the beginning, because you don't see who these people are.

They are sitting behind anonymous profiles. But I think that a shocking big majority are men who haven't gotten so many women and such. So it's a super bitter idea. But when it comes to Marta, there are a lot of young guys, who are like the Oscar-Westerling gang, who have gotten the feeling that they will hate Marta. Yes, but it's a bit the same. Do you think they... Why should they hate Marta? Because... It's like a sale kid.

Yes, but it's because she is trying to make him Vesterlin, and she is a simple victim, and they are his fans. He has a kind of cult going on, isn't it? Yes, yes. So... I think it's often... I have also heard that there are many women who throw shit at other women. And it is also a shocking number of women who just throw shit at each other. I get scared when it's only women on the front row, when I'm standing. I feel that I have to prove pretty quickly that we are on the same team.

You feel that there is more pressure with women than with men? Yes, a little. I feel that they can be a little bit of a sucker or take away the phone. And then I am like, hey, let me say hi first, and then you can say that this wasn't fun. But give me a chance first, that I have to prove a little at once. You see, if you take a look at the mechanisms between women, you are very cat animals too. Very sluggish, not that you always notice it, but very intricate status games. If I start throwing myself under the bus, we can be on the same team. Yes, because then you are like... I understand. Then you have more rhythm and I can laugh at you.

But it is important to be able to show that you are soft at some point in the beginning. It's like a save the cat moment, just in stand up. Save the cat time. It's like a story telling grip. You are going to be a big aware of the main character, right? And often the main character, immoral, has a lot of mistakes with him. It is also important to have... A ton of sopranos.

Yes, it is important to have a lot of mistakes and things you have to improve on on the way. So, to show that this is something good in this person, you put him in something called the save the cat moment, which is like, now you saved the cat and show that he cares. And it can be very small things, like you are an old lady with her bag, and you don't have to overdo it, and here is the bag, now I will follow you home, just be good, and you will forget the eye. It will work. A problem I see a fucking flat set. We had a Save the Cat show. I am very good at it now. I think there is a lot of humor in amoral shit characters. So when my girlfriend has saved a life and such, and I am not into eating the I was the only one who had the stage. What was that about? That I... that Snorre Monson, he has become much more known since we played in it,

but then he was very newcomer and very nervous to go on stage, and I gave him some advice and was there in front of him, and then he goes one trick, one trick that he sees him do on stage as well, and it's so powerful. And then I cut it and then I give him a hug and say something practical. Not like, don't put anything in your mouth, but say something encouraging, which shows that I am a bad guy in all the bad things in the heart. So we missed that moment.

Because it was a bad lighting. Yes, and there were a lot of people who commented on it when we did tests on people and such, that they really struggle with the show, because I am a bit picky as a person. So that's what makes the whole show, that you are a bit picky. Yes, but remember, some people think that's okay without it, but most people need something. Those who don't know who I am, they know, they don't have a clue who I am. They could have liked the show, but when I don't have a moment of care, that I am an all-out guy, they struggle to know who I am. They struggle to cheer me up and follow me. Then it falls through. But is it like that when you think about it, when you are going to have a solo show and stand up, so you have to have that moment?

Oh, I have saved the cat? Yes, it is a bit like that. I think that was where it started, that it showed weakness, it showed some kind of weakness, that you throw yourself a bit under the bus. It has a lot to say. If you walk straight and are just cocky, then there are a lot of people who get older. But people know very well who you are. Like Bill Burr. He can do it. He doesn't need to be a singer. But can women themselves, how big they are, do it? Or do you think they have to do it more?

No, if you are big enough, you can do what you want. But there is something... But again, things are completely destroyed by the fact that there is a gap between boys and girls in stand-up. But it was much worse before. I try to think that now it is much better than it has been. Before it was just a whole meet and greet on backstage. He introduced the lady and said, yes, now comes a girl, I will pull her instead, but take care. It's not long ago. Now it is a good atmosphere backstage. I feel very welcome, but I have never felt that I am a woman and the woman is me. I feel very similar to the boys.

We should not forget that a lot of good things have happened. We often talk about the negative. But we must see the positive as well. Yes, I think so. Before that, if you were black or if you were a lady, you were just like... Just 15-20 years ago, it was like being in the city of Congo. And here is just Jonas Dømeskamp, and here is a monkey cat, who is going to do some tricks. It was like that. And then Jonas, for example, or Zayde, or whoever you were, had to pull up 5-6 jokes about him being black, to please the white man in the audience.

It was like that. And that is maybe 15 years ago? Not long ago. Shit, I didn't think about that. No. But you were aware of this all the way, you probably knew about this. You know that. Yes.

Do you have anything to say? Yes, but it's interesting, you haven't thought about that perspective. No, not really. That's how it has been for people with different cultural backgrounds and views on all fronts. It has been stand-up and a lot more. It has been the white, ethnically white Norwegian privilege. So you have worked on a much easier level of difficulty than both women and people, who are a little different from that stereotype.

I have to admit that I sometimes think I have an advantage in being a woman. Because if we are on the latter and there are four white men in 40 years, and me, people will think it's exciting when I come, no matter what I do. So I feel like, yes, I have a girlfriend, because I am often the only girl. So I use that more to my advantage, that it's like, oh, poor me, I am the only girl. It's more like, cool. I think it's very important, and it's good, even if you say you haven't gotten as much hate as you have, so it's good to talk about the positive things and in a way be able to set a little perspective as well, so you don't dig down and think that it's hopeless, because in many ways it is hopeless,

that you should get, that someone should get as get someone you hate, but on the other hand you have come a long way and you have to take the positive things and build on it. And then the paradox is that there are very few men who comment, but there are so many. There are so many. Because it is those who shout loudest. Yes, it is those who shout loudest.. It's the worst of them, I think. Because the general public doesn't want to comment or talk about things, I think. I find that if you are a happy, normal person, you don't have the need to go and show off to other people. Who is the one who does that?

It's just a hassle. I don't know how to do it on the road, you know. Do you have to log in or I don't know how to do it. the road, should I log in or not, but if I should, I mean just thinking that now I should set a time to diss someone, that's just what you want to do. But think about it, if you are a part of the male-female gang, when you don't get… The sexual drive of young men is enormous. If you fall on the outside of that, you will build up an enormous hatred. And then it will be directed against women, who seem to be the ones who reveal themselves. It's the most creepy thing I've read, but it was also very interesting. I sat in the summer and read the manifesto to Elliot Rogers. Who is that? He was crazy. He is the son of a Hollywood producer who produced the Hunger Games, among other things.

Oh! And he was totally shocked. He was turned down, he was socially awkward, he fell more and more out of it. And eventually he developed. The last way out, and that was to out. And he developed the last way out, and that was to die as many as possible. But he tried a lot, he tried for a long time to avoid it. And that's what makes it so interesting to read. Because he didn't understand in his own head

that no woman wanted to have him. Because in his head he was both handsome, he had the whole package, but it was only in his head. Out of it he was the weird one, who just sat for himself and was very creepy. So he wrote that he sat on a coffee and just… It was one of the last days before he was going to kill me. So now I gave him one last chance. So I sat in the café and bought myself a coffee, and I was elegant dressed, and handsome as fuck. But don't you think that I just walked past, or so weird to me? So that's how he saw himself, and that's how he saw others.

It was an incredible dissonance in how he saw himself and how the world saw him. But he killed the women he didn't like? No, he hated women. And actually, he built hate on humanity. But first of all, he had a huge hatred for women. So what he did was kill the people he lived with. – Did he live with women? – No, no, but yes. Two daughters probably. So he went out and went into a dorm, the girls' dorm, and went to a kidlings' place. But then it started to get messy, right? It's often that with these... It's not always that good.

It often gets messy completely. So the door wasn't locked and he banged his head on the door. F*** off! And there was no glass. And then he got all the attention on himself, and he sat in the car. So he didn't get killed by anyone? He tried to shoot out of the window, and he managed to take 4-5 people. And that was it? So it's a very short period of time he does all this? Yes, he gets chased down, crashes into the car and shoots himself. And before he does this, before he starts shooting, he sits in the car and says

To all you women out there, I hate you! And then he has a golden moment, which is so creepy. He picks it up? Yes, he has written a long manifesto, the worst thing is that he writes pretty well. He explains his own pattern and how he sees the world in a very special, creepy and fascinating way. So if you were interested in that, I would have actually gone through it. It was interesting to read. Have you read it?

No, the lady thought it was crazy. I was sitting in my reading glasses in the cabin. You have so much time, you are looking at people as gamers reading about their sick people. I think such things are interesting. It's not a novel that I know of. It's something very special, and it says something about humanity in a way. You get a real insight into something very dark and something very... We make some scary podcasts here at HUSA. Yes, I agree. And we have made our own podcast for all the stories

that are too crazy for a podcast called True Grandpond. True Grandpond is a little like this, it will work for everyone who wants some excitement and wants something that is a little scary. And then we made this one called The Sins. And the whole point of this is to take... Just keep going, I have to pee. I wish something a little scary. And then I made this one called The Sins. And the whole point of that is to take... Just keep going, I have to pee while...

Take a look at the worst stories. And people you haven't heard about. And what is the connection with all these men who end up with... The last episode we played with a guy called The Truck Stop Killer. And what he did, he drove a semi-trailer all over the US. And I don't know how well you know about semi-trailers, but you know that they have a little booth where they can sleep, a little booth behind the cockpit and all that. It turned him into a torture chamber with a stripper pole. And what he did was that on the way he picked up a couple, maybe a couple of lovers, and he shot the boy once, and took him with the girl,

and he took them like horses, bit in the mouth, and sat on their the wall and the bar. Oh, damn. And what he did was that he tortured them. The goal, it seems, was to torture them so hard that they finally didn't understand anything other than what he said. So, have you seen Game of Thrones? You know that one of the heroes, Balle and Pen in the end it's like Reeker. In the end it's like he starts to believe in what the bad guy in Game of Thrones says to him. And then he listens. I'm talking about The Truck Stop Killer.

The Truck Stop Killer tortured these girls so hard, that in the end some of them were out of the trailer. And listened to him. So they became friends with this horrible… – Psycho and cancer syndrome. – Yes, or it was just a hard torture. – Yes, but like the one in Game of Thrones. – Yes, that was the one I told you about. – Yes. – Reeker. – Reeker syndrome.

– Yes. – So in the end… – Reeker paradox. – So they were outside the trailer and they just followed him. Jesus. As if they were friends. Wow. And when he got tired, he killed them.

And then there was a new lady. And they say there were over 50 cases of this. But he was only judged for three. So he got life time and not death sentence. But my point is that almost all of these men, almost all of them, have had in their childhood something that has made them confused when it comes to women. Almost all of them. And the most sick ones are the ones who in a way have only lived with their mother and often the mother and sister to the mother, and then they are a little freaky.

So when they come home for example from school, or that they just refuse to socialize with other children, then they have to take their clothes to the big sister, and use girls clothes from a young age. So in the end, because they tell that other women outside the home are bad, they will only do the worst for you, and it's only me, your mother, who knows what is good for you. And in the end, they get confused about what it is to be a man. The psychology around mother and son is incredibly exciting.

And what happens of course is that they get socially awkward, so to the extent that they can't be at... They haven have to go to a cafe. They don't have to come in. I say Oda, I agree with that. With the argy scene. It's very rude to say that. What I end up with is that they slowly but surely start to think about doing something bad to the women. And it always starts with them starting to torture animals. Yes, that's it. It's not just here, but it's often where they start.

They attach a pin to the neck of the victim and drive away, and then slowly but surely... We have to wrap up, because I have to go on. ...a little cigarette in the arm of a random woman outside, and then they kill her. So Nora... I'm going to be a feminist on that. Take this one. And if someone is listening and hates Nora, take a trip to a psychologist. If you don't do it properly, I and build a tree and drag them in there. But if you are going to hit, is it better to close the stage and follow someone? Yes, of course, do it properly.

So then you can respect them more? Yes, 100 percent. Okay. Are we over? We are over. I have 20 minutes, no, a quarter left to get to the next location, which is far up the road. Are you going to Barnapod? No, I'm going to Moksenpod. A real Moksenpod. I'm Jørnis Josef from a podcast called Half Banana. Yes, fun.

And we're having a guest today, so we're going to talk about the male part. I hope you don't come too late, because Jørnis is a bit late. He always comes just in time. Does he? Okay, nice. You were a bit of a clown at the start. I noticed that you were a bit older. You got one long pipe and I think you got through it well. Send something to Narsh. How long did you go home from Narsh? I slept in the three hours. So it's not that bad.

Oh shit, it's not Narsh! But I was up at 6 in the morning, so three hours is... Yes, it's Narsh. It's not that bad. But I was up at 6 o'clock, and it's 3 o'clock. It's not that bad. It's not that bad. 3 o'clock somewhere is good. Okay, thank you all for the innovation, and thank you from home. Bye! The the the the the

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