Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Amy Poehler

Episode Date: October 11, 2023

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Progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates, comparison rates not available in all states or situations, price is very based on how you buy. You guys, we've got the wonderful Amy Poler who we've been talking about using on here for a long time because she's so great and she's such a part of comedy, obviously SNL, but just comedy in general. I think she's as good as anybody sketch player

in the last, I'm gonna say 70 years. She's up there with anybody. That's a wide net. Men and women. I don't wanna go, Lucille Ball, Caliburna, Gilder Ragnar, I can also go Sid Cesar, Peter Salis. She's very talented, she writes, she directs. She sings, and she's a heck of a nice person.

She has a new podcast, and she's gonna talk about that. We're gonna talk about her tour with Tina Fey. We won't talk as much about or unbelievably funny movies and TV shows because of the side strike which is happening as we speak. We can't mention that. So if don't get mad at us, we love to hear about that stuff. David, no offense or nothing, but you just mentioned it. I know I can just mention it, but that's it. You can mention that you're not supposed to mention. I didn't say which things though.

I don't think we can say what they are. Oh, certain things we can't mention. I can say the word TV. That's all I can say. Okay, I could say something like I went bowling and I got a strike. I wouldn't. I wouldn't.

Yeah, I don't want any trouble. It's a game show. That's really, you're walking a thin line. There's a game show. That's really you're walking a thin line. There's our game show. Can you say it or not? What's gonna get you canceled? That should be well. No, the contestants are already canceled and they have to fight their way out. Oh, that's good. That's is a good game show. Uncanceled. No, that's it. But Amy Poler is, I'm gonna say it, 1940 style. She's a kickin' the pants.

She's a kickin' the pants. Performer, she's a great in movies, great film actor. I don't know. She may be one of those, I might have to say, hmm, what can't she do? No, that's very true. We'll find out. I know what we can't say.

Anyway. Well, we could say Amy Polar said goodness. We'll find out. I know what we can't say We could say Amy Poler thing goodness. That's not out loud. All right. Here she is guys Amy Poler Hi guys. Hello. Can you hear me? Okay? We can hear you and see you. I love your glasses Can you hear me okay? We can hear you and see you. I love your glasses They're kind of 60s or something something. Yeah, I get them off at Amazon Mm-hmm. Is that now I gotta I gotta use my reader my readers my cheaters got your cheaters Give me them cheaters look at Dana watch them go. Oh With this change the vibe of the interview? Yeah.

It makes you feel more like conservative, like you're gonna drop some politics. Really? Sun glasses? Yeah. Interesting. Would you read, David? Yeah, I think there's a vibe.

Are you guys forming an alliance? Yeah, we are. It's a little early, but I get it. She overlapped or... did you overlapped? I wish. No, I mean, but David hosted. Oh, yeah, that's right. Wait, can we, we can talk about SNL, right?

Yeah, yeah, because we're not, it's already been on. But Amy did a funny one. I just thought of this, Amy. Were you in my stunt double? Yes, we did a sketch where I played David stunt double because we could probably be brother and sister. Like we have similar features. So I played your stunt double.

And then that's all I remember of the premise. No, I think it was someone played the rock and I was like the rock's buddy in a buddy comedy. And then when we got to like climbing on a building, they brought in Chris and I think Chris. And that was you, which I thought would be a boy. And it was you. And you're like, Hey, we're going to do this for all good. And I'm like, and Seth, I think was the director. I'm just remembering as I go. And I'm like, Hey, is it, is it weird that I, you know, I'm a guy and it's like, Oh, it's always cool. And

it's just stunt people. And I'm like, right. And I'm a guy and it's like, oh, it's all equal and it's just stunt people. And I'm like, right, and I'm not loving it. And then when she gets on, she goes, oh, no, rock. It's so scary. I'm like, I don't think she should talk if she's my, he just keeps, he keeps like crying and acting like you're me. And I'm like, that's not what I'd say. And no one has any problem with it.

No. And I think when I, when I put on that wig and I think we looked a lot has any problem with it. Nope. And I think when I put on that wig, and I think we looked a lot more. It was pretty close. Yeah, I was pretty close. I'm gonna say. Yeah, Dana, you blew it. You missed that.

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Lots of Norway, lots of Scottish, and lots of Irish. I'm British, American, and Southwest. I'm Airlines. Have you done the 23andMe? Have you done any of that stuff? Terrified. My son did and he had a disproportionate amount of Neanderthal. So I don't know what maybe that explain something I don't know. It's like half Neanderthal and my wife's half Dutch. There was no Dutch. No, no, his grandfather was a hundred percent Dutch and there's half Dutch. There was no Dutch.

No, no, his grandfather was a hundred percent Dutch. And there's no Dutch and a lot of caveman. Anyway, welcome, word, this is, we're gonna do this for the rest of the podcast. It's about genealogy today with our expert, Dr. Sheila. Oh my gosh, that's right. I'm here to promote my podcast. Thank you for reminding me. Do not forget about this. I listened to Sheila. Oh my gosh, that's right. I'm here to promote my podcast.

Thank you for reminding me. Do not forget about this. I listen to it. And it's one of those things you go like, I, God, what a great thing to do right now. It's so fun. Like, because everyone's in therapy. Our therapist, we have a company that we love,

a sponsor that does online therapy. So therapy is big. I listen to the Chris Parnell and a guest that was sterical. I mean, it's really funny. And they're so easy. It's better than this podcast. Put it that way.

If you're listening to this, switch over. It's not a competition, but they're nice. They're like 22, 25 minutes. Amy plays, Meg Lomaniacle, like, but with so many, because I was in therapy for five years, I still see or talk to if they're something, you're capturing a rhythm and a thing,

especially in that every time someone says something, you just ask them another question kind of. So that makes me feel sad and sad is, feeling bad about myself and feeling bad about myself. They do their own therapy basically. So I mean, that's all I have to say. Well, when you talk about it, promote it or just say why you're doing it. Well, it's super fun.

We did it during the strike and we just improvised with a bunch of our buddies like Anna and Chris and a bunch of SNL people are on it. Rachel Dratch, Paula Pell, Tina Fey. We have like couples, people that are actual couples in real life, and people that are comedy partners, like Abby and Alana from Broad City. We have all these different people come in, and I play a therapist named Dr. Sheila,

and it has to be set in the form of a question because she's not a doctor. And it's just that fun game where I'm bad at my job and they have something they wanna work out. And we just improvise and cut it down and it's just been a black, like it's been very creatively fun. It's been a minute since I've,

I don't know, gotten to play character. The improv bones are rusty. Yeah. I mean, the one I heard and it was probably the first one. But I don't know if it said who it was. So I know your voice, your voice is very unique and then distinctive, but who was the first couple that had the mom problem? Ah, that was out today. And that is the three great Chicago improvisers, Pete Gross, Jean Bilippic, and Stephanie Ware. And that is, the premise of that is super fun,

is basically a couple comes in, and they're like, what's the problem? He's like, I don't know what the problem is, and the wife is like, his mom is really meddling in our relationship. So, Dr. Sheila encourages her to talk about how much she hates her mother-in-law. And then we reveal that she's been hiding under a pile of blankets the whole time.

And those three performers are just like expert improvisers. And yeah. You know, being, I've done a little improv, but I don't really do it. And it was mostly because it was so hard. And when you hear it so smooth like that, I guess there's editing, but I was thinking, it sounds so conversational that I was thinking, where are they cutting?

Because it's just boom, boom, boom, boom, boom. And in so many throwaway lines that are just like, and he's like, well, I breakfast with my mom, she comes over the morning and makes me my cereal. And does that bother you and the wife's like, well, I breakfast with my mom, she comes over the morning and makes me my cereal. And does that bother you and the wife? So like, well, I do sleep in. You know, I usually get up at 9, 9, 30, 10, 10, 30. That's such a funny answer.

9, 9, 30, 10, 10, 30. And, but there's so many little texture jokes like that that keep it going aside from the overall feel that is a funny idea of the who's the queen of the house and And he suggests that his mom could be co-mom of their babies. I Think as I would they call it the The way the the last points just sneak up on you because the rhythm you're using for the therapy is so Accurate there's a there's a kind of a it's almost like a dialect in a way. Yeah, I think it I think it's really I love therapy too, Dana.

I love it. I revere it and I'm in a lot of it and I love watching couples therapy and listening to couples therapy too. I'm always fascinated by how vulnerable people will be. Publicly, like it's like, whoa, I can't believe they're sharing this with the whole world. But I could listen to it forever. So and I love podcasts. By the way, love your podcasts.

I've listened to almost every episode. You know, probably every single person on the podcast. That's crazy. So great that I get getting a chance to do it. I'm so grateful. You made my day. I love it. And you know, we all, we are,

us and now like you said many times is kind of the, it's like you were in very specific, like special forces, and you all just want to kind of share stories about the nightmares that you continue to have about it 20 years. It's all poor, poor rich people. It is funny. We're like special ops.

We say war, and then people say, you don't say that, so we change it. I know. You're right. I should do that. We we changed it. I know. You're right. I should do that. We say it to SWAT team. I said it once here. It's like the Marie and I and I backed off of it in 10 seconds.

I said, please don't write me any letters because it's fun to say that. I did not mean to equivocate it in that way. I would just say if someone is unknown, maybe in an improv group like yourself and is suddenly on national TV and then we all as an audience, like yourself, and it's suddenly on national TV, and then we all, as an audience, we, oh, what's her name? Amy Poler. Oh, she's getting really good.

It's like a reality show. Oh, she's really confident. Now she's right. Lots of opinions, yeah. Lots of opinions, yeah. Message boards, like I started when message boards came out so it wasn't It wasn't there wasn't any Twitter or anything yet But it was these message boards you so spring up like the next day

So I started around when up 2001 Tivo member Tivo Came into play so it was like ooh, I could us and Elp for the first time like that was what again. I'm not so sure that's a good thing. I talked to Tiva. We'd rather have them to like watch the show as opposed to let's not go for a pause but that's true. You record it and then you'd never really watch it. My 13 year old ex like a puppy again.

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My Lauren is not great, but yes, it's very... No, there is no charge that just works. Yeah, it's very... My Lauren is a little more paternal, which is like when he comes on the floor right before a sketch and goes like, do you like these wine glasses? Or do you...

Is this table look right for you? And you're just so nervous, you're about to do a sketch in a restaurant. You're like, what? Ha ha ha. Are you happy with the wine glasses? Okay, okay. You're like, I mean, on the table in the sketch, yeah.

Yeah, they're like, five, four. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My first season, I don't know if he did that later. It was a glass of shard and a and he would be outside because then he went under the bleachers. Well, that was for the dress show mostly, but during the live show, you're so fucking terrified. And Lawrence went around the glass of wine acting. So like, there's not a live TV show going on. It was just amazing to watch him try to buy osmosis,

calm us down, I guess, you know, I'm waiting to get pushed out on update in that chair. I'm in the dark. And he's like, do you know who's winning the Yankees? I'm like, right now, I don't know, I got I have to look at the cards. It's a mind trick, the non-secure to distract you from the chair turns, then there's 10 million people watching you. Go ahead, Amy. No, I'm a mind trick, the non-sec order to distract you from the chair turns and there's 10 million people watching you. Go ahead, Amy. No, I was going to say, when you guys talk about your experiences at the show too on this

podcast, it kind of feels like the before times because my first show was two weeks after 9-11. So for like the first three years or so at the show, you know, the Shardonnay was gone. It was very much like serious business to keep comedy afloat. You know, it was very like, will we ever laugh again? And how can we do comedy? And, you know, New York is under attack. It was all this like, how do we make fun of politics? Like it was just this like slow build back to get to Palin and Hillary by the end of that run,

but it took so long to even, you know, so I can just remember starting that job and being like my dream job, I was 30 years old, I started, I was like, here we go. And then, then all that happened and being like my dream job. I was 30 years old. I started, I was like, here we go. And then all that happened and was like, will we ever laugh again? That was basically the headline. And it was like, could we though just a little bit

because I'm here now. It was intense. Yeah, I've been dreaming and working toward this for my whole life. Could I do something funny? How could you do such a stupid sketch when what's going on in the world? And you're like, oh, well, this is the idea is to get away.

But it went on to your point. It went on for a long time of the idea when will the next attack come? Yes. And there really are. It wasn't an awesome, so there was a really anxious period. I don't know when it finally would kind of, I guess, 2004. It felt like 2003, 2004, but don't forget, you know, there was like

anthrax in the building when we were there. It was like, you know, it was wild. But I think it felt around 2000, I had one gear of overlap with Will Farrell and he did a sketch. I guess it must have been 2001, 2002, like about a guy who was really patriotic and he was wearing like, yeah, in the hot tub. He was just wearing a speedo. He's going to work, I think, Dan. I think it was Matt Piedmont, went around.

Yeah, I think, right. And he wears, he has, he's very patriotic. Yeah, Dan, I think it was Matt Piedmont, went around. Yeah, I think you're right. And he has a, he's very patriotic. Yeah, yeah, that was a big one. It's very will the way he wore the speedo, the way he's played his legs. I mean, he is, he's brave or whatever you want to call it. He's just out there. But so that was really broke the seal a little bit. Yeah, and he had, you know, we had stopped doing any bush stuff. Any, we had, we didn't do any politics during that time. Interesting.

But that was like a big, a big silly, stupid, you know, guy in a speedo sketch. And the audience really loved it. And you're like, okay, maybe, maybe this is going to be okay. Maybe, so, but we did a bunch of dumb pop culture stuff because, you know, it was like Britney Spears snake trainer was like a character I was trying to get on because because no one wanted to talk about news, politics. So it was weird. But it kind of appreciate the big silly ones more even later on big big don't whatever word you want to apply to them

Broad really just balls out funny where you get sort of you want to get that I love Lucy kind of Roll of a laugh if you you know I got it with the dog on I wasn't me. It was that sketch massive head moon Harry just unleashed a whole I love Lucy type of laughter because that was fighting with a dog over fake, fake, fake, fake brains. But it seems like, you know, just as an overview here for a second, you came on the scene and then by the time you left, you were just as good as anyone had ever done that show. I mean, you, I believe, and I say this to people with all sincerity.

I mean, like the thing you did with Maya, the long island ladies, you were both brilliant and you were just so in the pocket of that character rhythmically. Like I watched the immersion of that. It was, oh, it was just beautiful to watch that sketch. I mean, oh, thanks, Dana. That means a lot.

That sketch, that felt like we could have only done it when we were like seniors, like we were, we were relaxed enough to do it. We wrote that with Emily Spivey, the great Emily Spivey. Yeah, we hear about her a lot. Yeah, you should have her on this. She would be an incredible guest. And yeah, we improvised a lot of that. Like, it was just a lot of overlapping. The cards were kind of loose. And we kind of knew what we were gonna say, but not really. And I don't think we would have been able to do that

in the first couple of years. I know I wouldn't have. I would have been too resilient to read. Yeah, that's what I mean. I find that a lot. There's maybe Eddie Murphy, the most extreme, the other way, like his confident in day one, apparently. And then there's people who have a pretty quick run up,

but then some of you just goes and goes and then the audience discovers you. And then it's, you know, could you, I mean, I don't want to, but you don't have to do that character for five seconds. But what would she say to David and I right now? I mean, just, you know, it's a very important time

because it's sweat-a-weather. Like sweat-a-weather's coming. It's very, very, but she's going to having a lot of hot flashes and she enjoys the nip and the air. But we, we base those two ladies, we base those ladies off of ladies that were in really one woman who was in the hair department, Jody Mancuso, who was running the hair department.

She was like, long Island, like, or Staten Island, I forget, sorry Jody if I forget. And she was like, she was very like, I'm like, gave it to you straight. And just like, come sit, talk, if I forget. And she was very like, I'm like, gave it to you straight. And just like, come sit, talk. Like she just had this chatty, fun energy that was kind of flirty, very maternal. And my aunt, I used to just talk with her like that and talk like her. And mine was, my lady had a little bit just because I'm not particularly great with accents. My lady probably fell into like a little Boston at times just because that's my hometown.

But so we played Betty and Jody and they were just, it was almost like those women that happen to have a TV show, but they weren't, they were just chatting anyway. So we had a lot of fun where we would just, the camera would just come up on us and we were already in conversation and the camera would pull away and we were still talking. So that was the kind of vibe. It was, it was, being a wasp from California and then when I started going to New York and meeting characters in New York

and they were recognizable in that sense of, come sit, have conversation. Yes. Please, how are you? It's very, it's warm. It's extra-veter. Everything is out in the open. I feel spilt, so I this and that. But you guys just nailed it beautifully.

I don't, I just feel like. I see, I just saw it on Instagram. I mean, like, you know how they pull up old sketches? They just, they start traveling around because it is sweater weather. So, I saw clips of that. And it's kind of fun when things live on or they make a meme or something pops out. It's the best. It's so cool.

And then you go, oh, something mattered. Something I did in the old days. Totally. Somewhere, you know. Totally. People ask me this sometimes, like, what kind of compliments do you like to get? And I always say specific ones. You know, I like that line and that thing. And so

when you're out and about in the world, just what are people come up and say to you? Maybe maybe they talk about some of your movies or certain sketches or. It's funny. You know, you can kind of tell like the millennials love parks and rec like that was their show. And that's a show that like a lot of teenagers discovered during the pandemic. So there's a lot of millennial and Gen Z love for Parks and Rec. The Gen Xers and above know me more from SNL or you know more like movie or like hosting stuff. But yeah, like they kind of know that more I think, but or like maybe they saw Mean Girls 25 years ago or something. But it kind of Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, the nicest women in the audience, and just coming with their friends or their daughters.

So I get a lot of just like friendly women. So I'm lucky that I don't get occasionally, and I get mistaken all the time for other women, whether it's Tino or Dratch, or they kind of mush us all together, which is fine with me. Really? But that happens sometimes too, but it's okay. Well, my wife is not a comedy fanatic or anything,

but she, I told her that you and Tina were doing a show and she goes, oh, I would see that show. Yeah. We're doing that show for your wife. I think that, well, she's a nice woman. I go back to that. But so. She's a nice woman. I go back to that. But so. It's a nice woman.

It's, you know, the Golden Globes kind of cemented it. We all, we saw you doing update, you know, this Tina, you guys have this connection. I'm so really, truly, really good friends. And have the chemistry of Steve Martin and Martin Short. And so seeing that is like, well, this is going to be fun. Because when I think of you too, even though you did satirical jokes on Golden Globes,

it was still always fun. Yeah. I think that's a good brand to have. You're gonna have fun. It's underrated. I think you're right. I think I don't know. I'm in no way an expert in hosting things,

but one thing I did learn really quick was from SNL too. Like if you don't look like you're relaxed or having fun, the audience gets very stressed. Yeah, they're worried about it. When I see hosts and they're either nervous or stressed or even like coming and angry, like, I don't know why I'm here, like that kind of thing. It's like oh no, I get so stressed because you are hosting a party You're supposed to look like you're having fun like it's a party like who cares. It's an award show who cares? You you my it was you my antenna was that at the Academy Awards? We didn't know is it we just like opened it

Yeah, that was a good trick of like less pressure I mean, how is it? We just like opened it because I didn't know. That was a good trick of like less pressure. They're not the hosts, but you're on longer than you should be. And you're just joke machine. And then everyone's like, fuck, where are these? Why aren't they here the whole time? It's so great.

Yeah. You don't have a month of lead up. Like, what are you going to do? What's so funny? Because you know, those hosting gigs are a lot of work. They're hard. They're a lot of jokes to write and get through. And then also you can get, you can,

you know, now they're like, or kind of you can fall into traps and you can, people can get mad. Yeah. And so you're like, oh my, forget it. Someone always has a problem with it no matter what. I know. It's okay. It's like when Billy Bob Thornton got his Emmy, I think he goes,

uh, I'm not going to say anything because you can get in trouble. I'm, I'm, I'm substituting Bill Clinton as a bill about Thornton. I apologize. I thought I was saying. I'm not going to say anything because you can get in trouble for saying something these days. They just walked off, you know, but to the fun part, you might find this funny in a way because John Lovitz, I was the one who kept saying, John, you got to do stand up. So I was kind of, I'm no expert, but I'm coaching him a little bit.

I go, John, the one thing you always have to remember right before you go out, because you can forget, just say to yourself, have fun. And he goes, I did it. I tried it. And then I started having more fun. And then I was getting bigger, laughs, you know, John. Yeah. So it's an amazing thing, but sometimes you go, what is going on? I'm not more fun. And then I was getting bigger laughs, you know, John. So it's an amazing thing, but sometimes you go,

what is going on? I'm not having fun. Well, I forgot to have fun. It's the hardest, I think it's actually like the last piece. It's the hardest piece to learn, because you're pushing, or you're nervous, or you're head somewhere else. And then it, yeah, and then when you actually relax,

the audience just relaxes with you. I mean, I learned a lot from Will Farrell that way. And because I would watch him perform. And he had this like mischievous quality where he and the audience were in on it together. You know, it was kind of like this, this bem. I'm like, can you believe we're all here doing this stupid thing? And it would, you know, it just like the minute they see you sweat, it gets so stressed for you. They tighten up. This goes to therapy or something, but try not to try. Try not to push.

Try not to be desperate. Try not to rush it. Take your time, but be in the pocket. And of course, when that voice goes silent, then you know you and Tina are just on a roll. Well, what do you guys do when you let this probably rarely probably happen for you anymore? But like, let's say you're trying new material and it's not working. What do you do? Do you pull back? Do you pull back in that moment or do you put like do you push because I'll tell you that what I have to work on

is pulling back too hard and like getting sleepy. You joke isn't working and you go to sleep. I go to sleep. I go right to sleep. working and you go to sleep. I go to sleep. I go right to sleep. You recoil. It's funny when something doesn't work, there's, I had it happen on the road recently where the show show is going well.

And one joke doesn't click and I go, I had to stop and go, literally no one bought that. Not one person and it wasn't a couple of you. Everyone said no sale and I feel like you're wrong on this one. And I'm going to get, I give you one freebie. Yeah. And then they don't know what to make of that. They're like, well, well, you're mad at us, but it's like joke, Matt.

But when something doesn't work in a regular set, or if you're doing a set on TV, what happens to me is you get spooked like a horse because my brain goes, what happened? And I can't think of my next joke because it's preoccupied with, what do I do? Why, wait, should I even do the next one? Why did it just, did I say it wrong? And then you're like, that throws you. If you take one extra second, they think something's up.

It's gotta be just so smooth, like a play, boom, boom. I know, I have a bit in my act, I don't even say the bit, but whatever. It's sort of like just so smooth like a play boom boom boom. I know I have a bit in my act I don't even say the bit but whatever it's sort of like two thirds the way like you've tried to bring it to the barn You know and the last two times Not landing and I know Jerry Seinfeld who's this fan golly about this check the setup, you know is check the setup, you know. Yeah. If the setup is, you know what I did this for this Steve Marvin.

Jerry's gonna do a live album, Von Vinyl, and it's gonna see a picture of him on the cover, and it's called, paper clips, why? Just like that, so Jerry, we love him, he's brilliant. But I think sometimes you, when you first say it in a joke and you're kind of connected to it or a bit

and then you can get a little bored and you maybe drop just even part of the setup or stuff like that kind of. Because you're doing, are you actually out there solo in your show with Tina as well? Yeah, we do some sketch, we do stand up, we do, do you do update? Up together, we do update. We do yeah, great

So what's your first line ladies and gentlemen here to do some stand up for our show is Amy Polar You'd say what you'd say what's up and then the name of the town what's up to Kato. That's a good first line. Here's my open. I'd be like this. Hey guys, Tina will be out in a minute. Just because I'm like, it's funny that you say that I'm like, I'm going to do a little stand up while Tina gets her IV drip. There yourip. I think we're dating. We're talking before we brought you on because we're both on the road here and there and there's so many things about the road that are so tricky and icy that you know, it is true something about like the show is the fun part obviously and it's so hard just to get to their city.

You just want to get high five. Like, I got here. I'm in the theater. Get in the hotel. I feel like shit, but here I go. Let's do this because you almost never feel great and you're almost never like, well, that was easy.

It's like, this is problem, problem in the hotel and getting there and what's backstage. There's so many interesting questions we were thinking of with you guys. When do you go on? Oh, I know It's so fun because you're right every different theater and space has like a vibe and it has like the guy that's in charge like the one that character Yeah, there's always the character. It's like oh, I can't answer that you have to talk to Dan about that

You're like, okay, where's Dan? Like it's always It's like, oh, I can't answer that. You have to talk to Dan about that. And you're like, okay, where's Dan? Like it's always Dan's always around. Dan is coming. Dan's in from home. My guys usually named Dan as well. I don't know if he can travel.

So do you do a sound check? We do. We have a lot of stuff going on. You have, you've got a montage of greatest hits or whatever. And you've got whatever. You have a piano player and stuff like that or? No, we have some recorded music stuff but we don't have a live yeah.

And you sing together? Live piano player. But it's what's that? Do you sing a song together? Maybe. You're a good voice, Dana. Have you heard her sing in the beginning of the podcast? Tonight before I go to sleep,

I'm going to try to figure out what can't Amy pull this through. Yeah. I'm gonna try to figure out what can't Amy Poe. Yeah. My 13 year old ex like a puppy again. Almost overnight, she's a different dog. Perfect poops. When people switch their dog's foods to the farmer's dog, the effects can seem like magic, but there's no magic involved.

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Can you swim? No, I can't. But I mean, I go to a hotel pool and I go freestyle and I go the length of pool and I'm completely wiped out and you know, I'm like sprinting but I don't know it and it's there is a whole technique to it, but you've learned it, right? How to actually I think if I need to get regulated when nervous system water does help me whether even if it's a bath or just like getting in some water. But before a show, I'm kind of used to, it's funny when I would do shows as an improviser and sketch comedian with standups, I was always surprised that there wasn't a lot of chit chat.

There were standups were just kind of like walking around, talking with their headphones, thinking about their set and really, really, and frankly, trying to remember it, which is half the battle. Very true. And, and you, and with, and in private sketch, you know, it's like, you want to just like keep doing bits up until you go on stage. It's like, you want to just like make a connection with the people you're performing with. And so, I kind of tend to like wanna just chit chat and talk and not overthink things.

But now that I'm older, like sometimes I just wanna like, do some like light stretching. I'm like stretching. Just some light stretching so I don't pull a hammy. Oh, definitely, you can't go, hi! And then your arms, like, oh, sorry. You know, I mean, I try to do a wide squat and make sure, because I might get in that position

or move around, stretch your calves. Yeah. Have you ever had any physical thing or cut yourself on stage? Oh my God, yes! I just, while I'm just getting over this thing, I talk about it on stage. I'm just getting over this thing,

which is, it's so embarrassing. It sounds like a, it sounds like a bad cocktail, but I had this thing this year called frozen shoulder. No, I don't know about it. Yes. I bet your wife. Like, was it your wife that went through it? No, no, it was our mutual manager, I think. Okay. I had a frozen shoulder. Yeah, I feel it. What does it do?

It's the weirdest thing. It comes out of. And it's like, from anecdotally, I find it's mostly women of my age, but it's just like inflammation. And suddenly you just like can't lift your arm all the way up. And so it's this, it just feels like you're like, you just feel really fucking old. You just are like, oh, fucking hell, what is this? And it'll take about a year. And you're just like, oh, fuck, hell, what is this? And it'll take about a year.

And you're just like, what a year? And it's proven to be about a year. So it sucked. And they're just making up names for old things. Frozen Shoulder sounds good. And you're like, well, instead of real thing, or I'm just falling apart. It's a real, real thing.

I was doing a podcast with David. I never even said this before. We've done a few live and then my, I think it was my left foot. My toes splaid out in a spasm and were, and were, I was in massive pain, but I just was riding it out. Just riding it out, we're interviewing someone.

Spade, take it. And I'm like, well, it doesn't happen to me all the time. They just, the toes went out and got really angry. As soon as it was over, I just walked around, it was fine. But we have to, we're supposed to do all this freaking stuff all day long pulling and stretching and Pilates, all this stuff to keep us together. You know, so. I know, and I was so much younger when I was on SNL and I think about how much I just partied and just walked, like I didn't do, I didn't worry about any of it. I just wasn't even thinking about any of it. I wasn't thinking about collagen, I wasn't thinking about water, nothing.

Nope, wasn't even thinking about water. Did we know, do we, did we, I know, I look't thinking about water, nothing. Nope, wasn't even thinking about water. Did we know, do we, I know, I look, you see pictures of yourself, because you're in showbiz to go, damn, I, I, I, did I know how good I was? Yeah, I know. Did we know how young we were?

It just, is it always it on young? Who said that, cold porter? I don't know. I didn't have a glass of water during SNL. I was there six years. You never had one. That just wasn't the thing that everyone, I didn't know what carbs are,

I eat fucking pasta every day. The Wally and Joseph's, I eat pizza. And I always felt shitty. I never put anything together. I'm like, what is it? What is it? I don't have the Rubik's Cube to figure this out. All of these carbs, no water and diet coke.

And my body is so sore, Damie. When I, every day, it's like my shoulder's going, I open a car door and they're like, what? I'm like, I do this every day and it's like, oh, what are you doing? Like, it forgets overnight, I'm doing basic things. I know. Well, you know what I, you know what is helping with this?

And I know this is probably like people listening or like, oh my God, be quiet. I don you know what is helping with this? And I know this is probably like people listening or like, oh my God, be quiet. I don't want to argue guys. Yeah. But you know what I've been doing? Is I've been doing cold dips. And it changed, changed, changed, and changed. For real?

The game. Yes. I do cold dips and it changed the game. Because that's a big deal now. Do you do it in a bathtub with ice in it? You do it. You take the, or is it in a bathtub with ice in it? You do it, you take the, or is it in a pool or a lake or where you get in?

I have a cold dip tub. Okay, cold dip tub. Make a tub that I keep cold. So, and I have a sauna, little hot sauna. So I do 15 minutes of the sauna and then I plunge in the cold dip and it helps a lot, David, that's inflammation. Yes. and then I plunge in the cold and it helps a lot, David. Inflammation. Yes.

I think you and Tina should do 10 minutes in a cold plunge doing update on stage. Just bring out the ice. That's a cool, I would love it. I think our endorphins would be flying. Sponsors. I'm on a closed location, but I have a pool for the first time in a long time

and don't heat it. I like it as cold as I can get it now for that very reason. Wait a minute. It's amazing if you get into a cold lake because I was looking at it as a lake that's really too warm. How you really suffer for about 10 seconds. But if you're moving, all of a sudden you're like, oh, it's fine. Yeah, that's the thing about getting older

is like forced austerities. Like, what can I do to myself that a doctor is not telling me to do, but that I can do to torture myself? Like, I have the privilege of cold dipping or like, I only eat apples after 5 p.m. and it's like, why? I was like, just, that's what I'm doing now. Like that.

It just got to be good. I know. I'm trying something. Yeah. Well just got to be good, I know. I'm trying something. Yeah, well, it's always nice. You have to get a blood test and stuff and you're wondering, well, did they find some, the doctor's talking to you and like, it's fine. It's good, everything's okay.

So, my guy, my guy looks at my blood test. I sit there and he goes, and he goes like this. Don't love that. You know the worst thing, the worst thing about you here from a doctorage, I went to a dentist because I had that two thing. This is what we're gonna talk about the rest of the time.

It's so tragic. And the guy comes in and he actually said, he actually said, wow, when he looked at my mouth. He said, wow, I said, wow, what do you mean, wow, wow, what? Wow, what, motherfucker, fuck, fuck, fuck, wow, I said, wow, what do you mean? Wow, wow, wow, wow, wow, what, motherfucker. He said it like, oh, he said it like walking. He said it like walking, wow, wow, wow, wow, wow.

Yeah, three days. A.V. I just said someone, were you in a walking family? I never saw that. I just sent my friend, I go, look at this ridiculous. Oh, you all were walking in the sketch, right? Yes, and that was so fun, because I think I benefited from low expectations.

I don't think anyone expected me to pull out a good walkin' but I was playing a little kid, like a little girl, who was doing a walkin' and I had had a friend who told me a story about Christopher Walkin' and that, you know, he went to, he was on set one time and he was like, you know, other than it goes, you know, in this place of spook, he kept saying it's spooky. It was such a funny word to say.

So I got to say ghosts and spooky. And that was, yeah, that was enough to be cared all He he was one of the most interesting hosts Because he was really he's a really you know no surprise eccentric dude So he was really comfortable with silence. So You know most people when you're just waiting around to run the scene again, you're just sitting on the floor like you chitchat, like, but he would wanna just sit quietly between each, you know, so he might have been

the longest I've ever gone. See the next to someone and not talking, like five, six, seven minutes, it would just be me and him and not talking with him. Five, six, seven minutes. It would just be me and him and we wouldn't talk. And it became like a contest in my own mind to see how long we could go. And he was fine with it. He was fine with it.

Get everyone shot up. Yeah, he was super, super talented and very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, so interesting. He's riveting. The first sketch, I don't know what it was. I've maybe a church chat or something. talented and very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, very, I heard a rumor that he takes out, I don't know if this is true, but that he takes out all the punctuation in his scripts. Wouldn't surprise me because his rhythm is so specific that might get him out of his rhythm. Don't like to pause in ways like that.

I mean, John loves it again, my friend John. He's the kind of guy guy goes, is it you? Are you are you making up that dialect? Is that the way you really talk? And he said, walk and just start his laughing. You're making it up, right? Oh, that's funny. I love it. Yeah, he seemed like he had a good sense of humor about himself. Yeah. And who knows, you know, there's certain actors who just extenuate their rhythms as they become film stars over the years, like Al Pacino, when he feels like it. And walk on two, he was in that Woody Allen movie as the psycho driver. It was in the set.

Yeah. First time I saw it. Yeah. You know, sometimes I like to turn the car, I think of turning into the headlights. Yeah. And he goes, I wouldn't on this trip, maybe put a pin in that. Well, it's like crazy. Just as soon as you drop me off, you can indulge your picket

dillos if you want to go into the, and get some rhubarb and you know, grind. But yeah, he's just one of the thrills of doing Sarah at Live is just doing sketch comedy with someone like Christopher Walkalken. And you know, I'm seeing him in the deer hunter. And you know, growing up in the 70s, like I just saw every movie way too young. I was so many blind images.

You saw that at what? Oh, I can't even imagine. I think I was seven. And it was like I learned about, yeah, I learned about Vietnam. I learned about prisoners of war. I learned about You know Russian roulette. I learned it all from Christopher walking and it was like, you know And then I went to first grade like that's I'm gonna I'm headed for a grade guys

I'm tired. I was at the deer hunter last night that they were getting slapped in the face in the World of the exorcists, in their efforts to play Rust and Relette, they would slap them and say, Mau, and slapped that. And I don't know what that word meant in Vietnamese, but it's one of the most riveting, darkest scenes in film history.

Dark things. I saw the reefers with Steve McQueen when I was a little, I saw Bonnie and Clyde when I was like a level. That's a little tamer. A little tamer. But there was a sex scene or so. But yeah, you've seen those 70s badass movies as a little girl. We, and I was the generation that got HBO and MTV in our house and no one was paying attention. So suddenly, there were movies on that you should not, I should not have been watching.

It's just that, yeah, no one knows, just the next movie on. And everyone's gone, you're like, well, what's this? Oh, the Omen. Yep, the Omen. Let's see what this is about. Oh, this might be fun.

Hopefully, I hope you both didn't see this movie because it stayed with me and disturbed me very much. And I think it's Dustin Hoffman. I know it's Dustin Hoffman. It's the first straw dogs. Look it up, kids. I don't even want to talk about it. Fucking love it.

Sent me that the other day. Are you, is that crazy? He sent me a preview. Watch this movie. Straw dogs with Dustin Hoffman? Yes. Is that what is that one? No, but it is dark.

Oh, well, I was just watching midnight cowboy the other day. They had a showing of it in or can I was like, Oh, I love midnight cowboy. I love Dustin Hoffman and I love John Boyd. And then I'm like, oh my God, I forgot this giant horrible, you know, assault scene. There's so many, you know, there's so much assault in that movie, like flashbacks of what happens to John Void's character

and to go for it. And I just like, I forget with 70s movies, you just be cruising along and then there'd be like a really violent scene. And you're just, oh no. And when now I'm the mother of teenagers and I, oh, you should watch this movie and then there's just a scene that's always,

oh, I forgot the scene was in this movie. It's brutal. I even got scared at Tommy Dana. I was young and my brother took me. And the gypsy acid queen and then she threw like acid like his face or there was fire at the beginning and it burned his face and I was like, and I go, I have a stomachache and I went to the lobby and then I never came back. Cause I got scared, they go, what's up?

I go, no, I'm fine. I just have some stuff to do out here. Literally nothing to do. What's the first, have you showed a movie to your kids where it blew their mind? It was kind of satisfying. Cause at one point, I don't know how old they were, just by example, I put on jaws for them.

And maybe they were sort of 12, 14, whatever. Okay, see you later, kids. So I come back 10 minutes later, and they're not moving, they're not, they're just staring. They just hit them at the right, you know, like, oh man, this is amazing. So, yeah, that was fun.

Yeah, that's, I mean, I have two boys. They really like a lot of sci-fi action adventure stuff, but I remember when they were really young, I really wanted to be the first one that I was like, I think you're going to love this and they loved it and I felt really. And as far as comedy, you don't love what your mom likes. Like your mom is lame. You don't want to love what your mom likes. Like your mom is lame. Like you don't wanna like what your mom likes. But so I almost had to let them discover SNL on their own

and they're at the age now, they're 13 and 15, where they're at that age where they're like, I wonder what SNL is gonna do about this. Like that's what, you know, and you know, definitely their favorite anchors are just in Che. And of course, they, of course, and they just don't want to watch, they barely want to watch stuff I'm in. It's like, it's embarrassing. Like, it's their mom. Like, do they want to watch their mom on TV?

If you recommended comedies that they give the thumbs down, like that you grew up with. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. There's been so many things where I'm like That's funny. Now that is you should watch that. That's funny. Oh, that's funny. Mom, you got to check this out This is really funny mom Yeah, and I'm always like turn that off That guy is yeah, but I remember the Simpsons was a first crossover where we could all watch it and they were kind of learning how to structure a joke and they, and you know, I was laughing too. But yeah, it's always that that group on SNL,

for example, when you're 12 or 13 and you know, not to make you feel old Dana, but that was you for me. Which was me too. Me too. Me too. I don't. know. I feel terrific. I'm the youngest I've ever been at this particular area. Your toes, your toes are not spasming at all. Everything is fine. No, no, nothing is spasming during. And if they were spasming, I would cover for it. I would just get kind of quiet on the zoom. And I just slunked down a little bit.

I'd be like, In the frame come like this. And Amy would go to herself. Is he spasming right now? Yeah. Is he? No, I feel good. I do a lot of countermeasures for Asia.

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But I got you picked. But I don't know what to do with those Toss salads and scrambled eggs. Kelsey Grammer returns in Frazier. Life's calling again. New series now streaming on Paramount Plus. You know, Dana, sometimes I think, you know, because we all write and we all write comedy and write this and whatever.

And sometimes not just obviously comedies, but I'll watch a show and I'll be like, this is so fucking complicated. I am not even in the same genre. I'm not a writer because the fact they have so many levels to these things and I go, what is this dog shit I write? Why am I called a writer?

This is ridiculous. I shouldn't even be in the guild. Well, we just do bite-sized silly stuff. I know, it's goofy. We don't, be in the guild. Well, we just do bite-size silly stuff every week. No, it's goofy. Comedians don't really get awards. They generally don't win Oscars and we have the American comedy awards anymore. But you know what? You guys will be the right people to talk, the right people to talk to about this. What irritates me so much though is that once a year at least there's like someone that we would all consider genuinely funny, who gives a performance that's would all consider genuinely funny,

who gives a performance that's really good, you know, good acting performance. And people are always like, wow. And I'm like, are you, do you, like, I think acting and counting are so combined, they're so close, you know, like, you have one must be a good actor to sell a bit, tell a joke. I'm just always surprised that people are surprised that funny people can be good actors. So rarely are good actors funny, but funny people are often very good actors.

And I always think it's just, I don't think people get, I don't think people get, I don't think people get, I don't think plenty people. But such a rare commodity, but if comedy was outlawed, I would love to do drama or do kind of realistic acting, but it's just what I do best. It's just a rare thing. And good comedy performances don't really get the old Oscars and stuff. They do. You see like somebody, not saying us, just saying other people that are great at it and they do a great performance. It's not even

considered. No, it's crazy. There's a reason they say, well, who said this? Dine is easy, comedy is hard. I don't know. That was like from the Vodville or something. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. That's tough. Mm-hmm. That's why I'm jealous of musicians because when musicians have to play in events, they just get up there and they play their song. They play the song. Everybody wants that they play the same song over and over again that everybody wants them to play. And when you're going up there trying to do something funny, people are like, give us something new. We don't want to hear your usual stuff. Yeah, I'm like, how about this? It's old. You can't repeat your bits and then you have to create rapport

and oh, it sucks. I always want to plug in a guitar and oh my God. After every line you're judged, if they don't laugh, even people that aren't listening, like I guess it's not going well, but with musicians, here it is, a plus. Here's the next one, a plus. But there's no like, I guess we did good.

Did they yell out for you? Did they yell out for you, David, or did they yell out your hits? Or they yell stuff? I get sort of a, sometimes a rowdy or crowd. I mean, what's it, I mean, Dana and I have done corporates. Have you and Tina ever done a corporate?

Oh, yeah. I used to do, yes, yes. Oh, where? I mean, I used I have done corporates. Do you have you and Tina ever done a corporate? Oh, yeah. I used to do, yes, yes. And there, I mean, I used to do a lot of, we used to do a lot of corporates up for second city back in the day, like, you know, and this was before anyone, you know, new or named but we would have to go, we would get paid, you know, to like, to do jokes about, you know,

John Miller, yeah, Vice President John Miller, like he's got crazy hair and he loves wearing cookie ties and everyone be like, hey, I'm John Miller and you just have to do all these like specific jokes. So hard. It's so hard. I work with him, that's true.

It's so him, you're doing it. He's got three balls and pizza's wife, say something about it. I go, in my act. I don't know what to say. And then one guy laughs the back. And then everyone else like, was that true? It's one guy sets you up.

Yeah, I knew the meat and greet. I'm sure you've had this, but I don't know if it's like alpha male stuff, but you're kind of this little guy and I'm sort of the star of the show. We're gonna meet greet these guys just really kind of fucking wailing on my hand. I mean, and maybe they've had a couple of content in life. I'm like, I had at one point, then I got tennis albos more ailments. So I had to do the fist bump or I had to kind of wave.

And they're like, I wanna put my mitts in time with your mitts. Squeeze, you know. I'll show you whose boss, I'm like, your boss, we don't even have to do this. Yeah, you win, boss. I go, I have Frozen Hand and Dana has Frozen Elbow. It name me as Frozen Jolder.

But least my screen has a Frozen. So you're going to therapy stuff, I mean, first of all, just career-wise, I mean, do you have any bug, are you gonna try to do a dramatic film? Are you directing, you're directing wine film or you're directing you directed wine country You're writing you're producing shit. I mean what doesn't she do Don't be scared. Yeah, I'm not says don't run away from it

She doesn't pay her tax You just do a lot you do a lot, I have this production company called PaperKite. So we produce a lot of TV and film. I like doing a lot of different things. That's why, you know, and trying to stay, trying to stay doing a lot of different things. Cause I find this business is very, I mean, the strike is a perfect example of it.

Like it's really fickle. It's really, you have to stay, you have to know how to pivot. So, like, I like acting and stuff, and writing stuff, and directing stuff, and so I try to kind of do, you know, whatever is the next thing I try to do is different from what I just did. And, but I haven't done, I've been more into writing and directing than performing lately and the tour has been really fun because it's gotten me back into being excited and this podcast has been fun because it's it's a play like a character but actually doing TV or doing movies like this so hard so much

time so hard being on set it's just takes up as you guys know it just takes up your life. Where is it? A heart is such a chill beginning middle end of your day. And you know, I feel like so lucky like, it's the right head that I love that I couldn't imagine going to do something else right away. And then you know, suddenly I'm looking at whatever it is like six, seven years later.

But so, yeah, I'm just kind of doing whatever feels right to do next. And I'm so lucky that he brought up Wine Country. I have such a group of ladies. It's kind of like you guys, it's you guys with grown-ups. It's just like I want to just keep doing stuff with the women I love. And they're so funny and they're so much fun. I mean, there's no better joy than doing stuff with your friends, like that's success.

And who was it? I liked it. I love this phrase. It's been used a few times in this podcast. A murderers row is such a funny, but it was a murderers row on wine country, you know, my obviously my Rachel, Anna. Yes, we had a murderous draw in that movie,

Paula Powell, Emily Spivey, Anna Gasdair, Rachel Dratch, Tina Fey, my Rudolph. But then when I was at SNL, I was lucky. I was in this group of, well, Forte, Fred Armason, the Dohaidur, Andy Sandberg, Seth Meyers, like Christian Wigg. That all happened in my year, too, Keenan Thompson.

Like it was just, so that was, they were so talented, people were so, so good, and talented, and when I look at those cast photos of who I got, and also the beginnings and endings of my time there, my endings, it was like, you know, welfare, Chris Pardalman, and that was being even when I was leaving, you know, Kate McKinney was coming in and, like,

all these people were coming in that were, so that's the cool thing is you just, if you're lucky, you get some overlap with people that you just love. And that's the best. I had one year with Will, I got to watch him. One last question from me and then Dana, whatever he wants,

but you did Hillary and then it was a cake, did it after you? Yes, yeah. And Anna, I think Anna Gasser did it before me. Maybe did Hillary before me. Yeah, there was a bunch of them. And I did it when, when down he was writing a lot of them. And then, and then, and then we did, when Palin, that was like, first she was running it against Barack, you know, for the to win the thingy there. And then Barack won the, what you call it, nomination. Yeah, well, first he won the nomination, right?

He'd be Hillary and then Palin showed up. So it was so fun to be able to do those two characters together because you don't get a lot of like female politicians getting to even do scenes together half time. So that was super, super fun to do. And it felt like it was everybody was paying attention to that election. It was very, super fun to do. And it felt like it was everybody was paying attention about election. It was very, you know, I played Dennis, I played Dennis Kucinich one time and I was like, ah, look him up, look him up. If you don't know, Dennis Kucinich, well, then it became a lot, which I, you know, we asked Keen in this question and we have referred to a couple of times, you know, about great cast or great cast members. And he just said the MVP basically is the women of since the 90 late 90s.

And we have Jan Hoekson, nor done a hardener. But there's been so many dominant women. And even in later years now, the women play the male politicians. There's all the rules are so, so that's kind of cool. It's progress, I suppose, for women. I mean, I was very, very lucky to be dropped into that show at a time when Tina was a head writer and Molly and Sherry and Anna had just left.

Like they had just done so much great work. And yeah, I mean, I just kept going. Just kept going. Yeah, I think that wasn't always the case. Everyone has their version of their experience there. I think there were stretches when women did not feel heard, supported, encouraged. And I'm sure there still are places and stretches.

Now, if everyone has a completely different experience about their time there, but I felt like I lucked out in that there were these, like just killers that were there crushing that I felt I was part of that group. And I, you know, I felt very lifted up by them. So I was very lucky. It feels like it's been wiped out. If there was ever, you know, some dude in the 70s, you know,

women aren't funny, not Lauren, but somebody, you know, like women aren't as funny as, and why after Lucy of all and others, they would say that and Carol Burnett, but it seems now it's like, to me anyway, being a baby woman, it's obliterated. This is a funny person. I don't think I'm watching a woman. I just go, they're funny, they're funny.

So I guess I'm calling it progress a little bit, at least. And I would even say to expand it less about gender. Like I find the more talented you are, the less, most, unless you're, yeah, you're just not, you're not that insecure. Like the funniest people I know love other funny people. That's what they love. They get drawn to other people's work regardless of... 100% gender. Yeah, they don't care. But if it's people that like have their own stuff,

they're working out. And here we are back to therapy. Dr. Sheila would be able to get these people in and talk and say like like I know you don't laugh At this person but really what's the thing about yourself that you're not Not laughing at what's not laughing What's part about you that isn't funny that you're mad at? The way that are fun. Yeah, we're mad about but I do think of you know kind of dovetailing back into the but I do think of kind of dovetailing back into the quasi-marine analogy or a spree to core. But when you see somebody who makes you laugh,

or me personally who does this, and knows how hard it is, or just some whimsical luck that something hits you and the rhythms are right and it works, and then watching other people do it. And then really in your own mind going, well, they're doing it, they're doing it, I think better than me.

And it's like, and you kind of connect to them. And if you meet them socially places, there's a frequency there or a shortcut. It's a great way of communicating. And since a humor is a good thing if you can have it, you know, in friends and relationships, it just cuts across. And anywhere I would be in the world world if a few comedians walked in if it was in a social awkward thing Even if I knew him or didn't know him I would instantly be a lot more comfortable Yeah, at parties I go up I even those big Oscar type you to zoom right over to the comedian anybody in the comedy world

Sort of gravitates together feel like your own little group. Totally, it absolutely feel like your part, I mean, I'd really mean it, like I feel honored to be in a group that you guys feel like you're in too. I mean, I feel like I go. I would assume right to you and Tina, if I saw you out, I'd be like, guys, save me.

What's going on? I'm saving this for them, but I am a licensed therapist, I just. What's going on? I'm saving this for them, but I am a licensed therapist. I just, it's a casual thing I got. And why do you feel that way about your peers, Amy? Why do you feel the need to ask? Yeah. Oh, yeah.

Check. She's been practicing. My therapist helped me. The one thing she said was, she basically says, life is a shit show. Don't get involved in this idea that these people are living these dream lives on Instagram or whatever. It's all made up to live as the suffer and embrace it.

You're like, oh, cool, okay. It's all right. It's kind of like what we're talking about about SNL. You have to kind of believe that no one's really thinking about you, everyone's kind of thinking about themselves. And if you take the pressure off of yourself that everybody's thinking about you, then you can have a good time. But most people are just thinking about themselves, you know.

Life is hard, everyone's in their own head. It's the entire audience, yeah. And you know, that we all know that we watch really successful people who kind of get what would, you know, be the platonic version of all the stuff everyone want and they're still just not happy. So happy is an elusive kind of concept, you know, because going for content at this point, if you're striving because it's not a well, another cliche. So is it about the shiny things in the money or people talking to you in an

airport? Ultimately, it is, but landing the bit, right? I mean, for me anyway, well, David's different. He's, yeah, coming up, listen, coming up with ideas or something that makes me laugh is like one of the last joys of like, it's still something works in your brain. You're like, oh, this is, oh, that's gonna kill. You're gonna crack it. Oh, no. Oh, no. You're gonna crack it. Oh, no.

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Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh sit down. No matter what they say, if you use it or lose it is a concept, I think the more you, I mean, I think trying to memorize your act, like say I've kind of a new act, I was shooting a special, and just the exhaustion of your brain, it must be some kind of workout to keep you articulate or all things being equal,

because you'll stay more fluid longer. And doing this, you know, when we started started reading ads i was dyslexic or something member david in the early days i couldn't really read them and now i've liquefied my ancient brain and now i can i heard Amy doing her ads and i'm like this is liquid ivy i go i'm drinking one now. I go, this is, this is similar, but it's, it's, I have to say it's fun to do podcast ads as a character though, because you, yes, I told Dana you did that. Yeah. You can just say whatever stupid stuff you want. If it helps you, this is the way I think about it. I just think of these small companies that are sponsors are, sometimes they're mom and pop and families. I go they're trying to live the American dream. They're going all out. So I now I'm with that attitude.

I'm excited that they're supporting our show. I sincerely I turned down every commercial, every gigantic brain in the brings truck in the 90s because I was supposed to be like Bob Dylan or something. We didn't we don't have a catalog to sell. That's the problem. You got to sell the catalog later, but Anyway, I'm gonna some update Amy with a Listen to the summary okay Dana and you can jump in he does this every time he lands it. Okay, okay Dr. Sheila doctor Sheila podcasts out now and Then she's got her head down listening very contently

She is also it was very fun to talk to you because I don't see you a lot out now, and then she's got her head down listening very contently. She is also, it was very fun to talk to you because I don't see you a lot. It's a great time to just shoot the shit with someone that's funny and Dana, you were fine. And also, we forgot, you were in Baby Mama, we're not gonna talk about that, but it's great movie also. Baby Mama. And she's in Mean Girls along with memes of mean girls,

but she's in that everyone loves it. And Dana continued wrap it up. You get half of this. That's an old star. Just a little milestone. The first all girl update feature all women. Sorry. Her antenna all funny. Is what I call it.

She released, yes, please. We did it. About her life. The rest of the leg tour, I don't think they need the tour. I forgot, yeah, the tour is gonna be better. They don't need us to promote them. The tickets are going fast. Yeah.

Whoops. I mean, we can add another show. But it's hard. It sounds easy to go. Add another show. Then you go, but it's still tough. It's so fun. The audience knows it's so fun to perform for the audience. Everything around it is so tough.

That's the only decision. It's like, shit, give me a good crowd. I love it. Because what are you going to do? You're in your room for like 14 hours waiting for the show. Maybe go to a matinee if it's easy to get to a theater. Walk out front and sign a bobblehead. They're like, sign this, but we're not complaining to people

listening. We understand we're getting paid down like getting I'm I love I love it. We're getting some money to act like idiots. Thank you, Amy. Very nice of you to take the time. We love it. We love talking to you to take the time. We love it. We love talking to you and the best part of this podcast, we just get to spend like a, you know, a focused hour getting to know you in 20, whatever it is. 23. It's a very boring time in America.

Nothing's going on. So it's good that we can figure out some to talk about. But anyway, we'll see. I love this is what I use because someone did it to me. See you around campus as if show business is a high school or something. That's cute. I love that. I love that.

And that's better. Yeah. I love spending time with you guys. Thanks so much for asking me. I really have so enjoy listening to everybody on this podcast. And so thanks for letting me be part of it. We appreciate it. I'll see you in science class.

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