Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Ana Gasteyer

Episode Date: November 9, 2022

Meshing music and comedy, SNL panic dreams, and women crushing on the show with Ana Gasteyer. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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I'm Scottie Skold. I say but not wrong. Wrong. It was special K with banana. It's you number two. Who's one of the best female cast members of male cast members in the history of satellite life? Anna gas side.

More tune teeny tiny tunes and teeny contracting. Teeny, wee-ne-wee-ne-wee-ne-tiny, teeny. We've been here seven hours with group, but. That was from the McLaughlin group, I guess. McLaughlin group, yes. They're not doing the McLaughlin group. Wrong! Wrong, that was kind of the catchphrase.

On Saturday Live, anyway. Oh, let me tell you a straight-in about before you get to Honna. Who was wonderful, of course, and very talented, and great to talk to. Oh, I talked to my mom yesterday, right? So my mom, who doesn't complain, my mom is tough. Love your mom.

And she said, she loves Dana. And she goes, oh, we're fans. Are you doing it with Dana? Oh, he's so fun. Oh, everything. Oh, you weren't on Kimmel. No, why don't I know this? Was it on Facebook?

I go I think it was a TV guy. If that's a thing TV. Yeah, she was a TV guy. I didn't see and I go Oh, can you find it? And I go whenever I send her a link she posted a meeting I go mom They send me a link, but it's like a secret you can't know I have to So she'll post any picture, you know, so she posts a picture at a dinner, you know, she put like you take it, the waiter, can you, do you know how to take a picture? He's like, yeah, but I have 18 plates. Just real quick. And so takes it.

It's the worst picture of all of us. And then being, it's on Facebook in five seconds. I go, mom, you have to run it my hands now. No, I don't. So I'm your mom. So she goes, oh, I'm still sore because we went away to Newport for Fourth of July. She was, oh, my foot. And I go, what? And she was, I think I broke my toes. I go, you did today. And she goes, no, two weeks ago, it's so painful. I can't put a,

mom, what are you doing? Go to the doctor. She goes, I'm going, but I don't want to be complaining. So she goes there. And she goes, oh, he put a boot on me. It's nice, it's summer, I don't mind, because it's open. And I said, oh, what happened? Oh, they were both smashed and most of my foot is broken. I go, and two weeks, you're lugging that thing around. And then I go, mom, this ruins it because to help you with bills, I was going to put you on only feats. She goes, what's that?

I go, it's sexy picture of feet. I was going to take pictures of yours to make money. She goes, oh, this is not the time. It, they look so bad. First she doesn't know you know I'm joking. I go, oh, but we need them. She goes, oh, give me three weeks, five weeks. They, and by the way, they're not that great. I go, mom, I know I've seen them.

I don't know if they're feet. So wait a minute. She's 85. She really thought you were gonna take. She didn't really get it. She did really get it. She did really get it. She did really get it. She you were gonna take She didn't really get it and monetize them online on a platform called only feeds But she was worried because her toes were broken. Yeah, give me a few weeks and her 85 year old feet wouldn't be in Pristine condition to get guys to buy But she didn't quite get it she was like all she heard was me saying like I needed you to help with bills or something

And she's like oh, I'm sorry. I'll get them. They'll be back at, oh, in two seconds, I'll just get them going again. And I go, mom, it's fine. We're not, we're not to add only feats yet. She was, oh, okay. But I can, I can pitch into, I can do stuff. I go, mom, you're not pitching in. Onigostire.

Onigostire. Yeah, I just struggled through those stories to get to Ana, but you did it in your champ people. So here's Anna and I hope you like her. We had a great time with her. She is so, so funny. She can be big. She can be small.

She did the PBS one with Molly Shannon. Short of ball. Yeah, and that whisper is why it was so important. That's a big whisper. She's just so funny and nice. Enjoy. And we, and Lil trivia, we've both done Martha Stewart. What?

Stay tuned. Oh yeah, clear frame. Let's check it out. That's a little rocking chair to the left. Wow. What do you think that is? Guitar. Covington or Valencia or

Perlil? I just made a name up. That's where I shot Joder too. Look at that guitarist guitar center. All our references are showbiz's reference. I don't know any real. I wouldn't go in any city for any other reason. That was yeah. Master Disguise. Uh, you know the story, I probably should tell it later. Wait for Anna. But that's always too dark. We might have to cut it,

me and the turtle outfit doing a prayer. Woo! Don't say one thing until she gets here. She just left. Oh. Did that work? Hello. Yes, fantastic.

Okay. Like everything's about to die. My computer, my AirPods. I see a guitar and a piano. Would there, you know, it's an art, it's an artistic bohemian environment. Are they ever, are they ever touched? Do I know you sing your ass off,

but you ask you play too? That's cool. The piano is more for my kids and for rehearsal for me because I hate renting, you know, I live in New York. You have to rent a place to go and meet somebody, but I actually have a piano so I make people come here. Which is helpful. Great.

And then the guitar, who plays the guitar? The guitar is just for drunkards. You know, gotta have that around for drunkards. And we have it. We also have a yoke. And we also have a violin, because I really do that. And I know this. Yeah, I did it like seriously as a kid.

And then that was like my pandemic obsession is, I basically, I basically, because so when I turned 50, I turned to my family very sincerely and said, hey, I would love to celebrate somehow. And my husband said, anything you want, where would you like to go? Like let's do something cool. You want to do cooking class.

Like what is it? And I said, okay, I'm not joking. I want to go to country western fiddle camp with everybody. And I want you all to take clogging. And I want to learn how to fiddle. And they all looked at me and immediately said, no, we're not doing that.

So I was shut down. You knew one way. And it was my birthday. So over the pandemic, I just was like, fuck it. This is my fiddle time. So I started fiddling. I started taking all these, because you could go to all these camps online.

Let me ask you a question. How many years that it been since you've really been into the fiddle when you started back? Did you just, do you play every day? I go through like weird, bingy phases. Like I won't play for seven years and then like, I'll end up having a phase where I play everyday

for three months. And do you make up stuff when you're doing it or do stuff you already know? All right, so that's what I was trying to challenge myself to this time was because when you learn classical music, it's super anal and square and like you can't yeah exactly It's is that tiny violin? Are you playing a tiny violin for me? I just did a little teeny little teeny mime

I don't even know what a fiddle is. I'm just playing a lot of my mitten bigger They really can't see what you're doing and has to have some burrow. Yeah, there you go So I'm your play. Yeah, so who would be a Jouillomas someone who improvises? None of those guys improvise. They're just all tech. No, I mean, the problem, yeah, it's really like, it's two different things actually. Like it's literally, it's like people down in Nashville, you know, because you play, you play, right?

What do you play? I have an electric piano and a guitar and I do a little V drums, you know, for all the drums, but they just speak to me pretty much daily. I'm very undisciplined about learning songs, but I learned if I fell by the Beatles and that opened up a lot of chords for me. So then I just take up core progressions to treat my anxiety disorder.

Everyone has to. That's a good, it suits. Yeah. Well, that's the only reason that's why I say when I go on these benches with it, it's like, it is just an act of meditation. I'm not to be all artsy about it, but. No, you can be, we want to go downtown in this podcast.

Like, let's go downtown. Here's what I want. Here's what I want to know out of absolute curiosity. And we've done it with other guests. You're formative years, which I'm labeling age four to age 12 or 13 when things impact you more like okay, how old were you? What like what are some of the movies that affected you in the 70s? You're growing up. What did you or Broadway shows or what what and for you guys hear weird feedback? A little humming.

Yeah, humming a light humming. I hear light. I don't a light Tibetan humming. I feel like it's day is that okay I'm gonna let it go. I'm not gonna worry about it I just want to make sure like I hadn't broken something It sounds good here look at that hair. I have a lot of hair hair. I know my wife has a lot of hair too It's crazy. Is this a panting commercial or what's cool? Well, I thought I thought through with this podcast I could maybe get a hair commercial. Yeah, you might. We've already we've already called Prrell. We've already got hurt. I feel like it'll have to be a slightly senior oriented one.

Okay. Yeah, formative your movies. So, um, Um, uh, okay. Yeah, formative year movies. So, um, deaf, I mean, again, we're, we're all of it of an era that went to movies and movie theaters. We didn't have VCRs and so forth. Exactly. We were analogue. Yeah.

Yeah. And I grew up in DC. We didn't even have cable until like late in almost in like an early 90s. So we didn't have it. Okay. So you didn't even see Carol Bernadette. Do you have those traditional influences? Yeah. So we didn't even have it. So you didn't even see Carol Bernadette. Do you have those traditional influences? Yeah, yeah. So for sure. I mean, yeah. So definitely, I would say for me personally, Bob Newhart, like was an early, just somebody I kind of

wanted to, I don't know, like that. I think the timing was probably the thing I was most kind of attracted to. That means, yeah. Yeah. sure. By the way, back to Newhart, I like Newhart. Didn't really know that it would be, and now that you just said that, he was dry. And of course, as a kid, I like goofy comedy. Why I liked him, I don't know. I was thinking it was so throw away. And it was so over our heads.

It was like enough. Yes. It's office, like none of it really like, I didn't know what it was about. Everything, all of it. You're right, like the, like, it was just pure dry, very measured delivery. His timing is absolutely perfection.

Perfection. Yeah, it's perfection. Yeah. So I think if I had to pick one ugly, like even above and beyond, Carol Burnett and all those guys, that would have been the one that I was like, oh, I want to be like him, I grew up.

And then Letterman of course too, but. And you said Mel Brooks, was it interesting? The Mel Brooks movie wise. And I think like in terms of my sense of humor now, of like, I think, I grew up so to frame it, I mean my parents are. And we wanna get a background. You're in Washington, DC.

Yeah, it was a pretty like by, it was not a very like pop culturey household. It was like classical music and my mom thinks a lot of stuff is tacky. So like I wasn't allowed to belt. I had to sing legit. Like if you, I had to take ballet, I couldn't take jazz.

Like it was like everything was real. I get a laugh and cheat. Wow. No, no, she hates an agular. She thinks it's super tacky. They're cheaters. To this day, she's like, she's got a blower voice out. I'm like, well, she hates an Aguilar. She thinks it's super tacky. They're cheaters. To this day, she's like, she's got a blower voice out. I'm like, well, so far, she's doing pretty well.

But yeah, so there was a little more sort of like, aspirin, class stuff in my family, a little bit. But also my dad's super funny, and my mom's an amazing audience. So as much as they were like that, if I did bits, they laugh at them. But I certainly didn't think I was gonna be a comedian. I went to college to be a voice major.

I was an opera major. That's like how I went to, I didn't wanna be an opera singer, but I didn't think that was like my sideways move. You know what's interesting? Hey, my dad was funny, so I was trying to, and my mom was kind of funny.

So I'm trying to impress, I guess. So I just, it's, I'm probably a research paper of their humor, sense of humor. My dad, like, Mel Brooks, so I did. But with you, you've got music and you've got, uh, funny, two things you like, and they're sort of merging the rest of your life in a weird way. Oh, totally. I mean, by a complete accident and people just get really confused by it, but you're right. Then you reach the get really confused by it, but you're right. Then you reach the certain generation in your own life and you're like, oh, yeah, this is all making sense. Because for a long time, it felt like road less traveled. Oh,

it's a weirdo. Why do I, you know, and now eventually, I thought, just what I am. You know what I mean? Right. It has there. I mean, so you're taking less, I mean, what lessons did you take? Just you took ballet? I was a relentless, I mean, it was so much violin. It was just, and so much, and so much like I think that's why I find earnest people so funny like like the delicious dish Ladies that we did like a lot of the characters that I'm obsessed with are the Robin Marty on snl They were they were all informed by just people who would absolutely no sense of humor Yeah, I love that you know it classical music people are amazing, but they're there. It's just a real earnest

You were just getting there. It's just it's making a comeback. I think a little bit earnest. Unfortunately. Yeah, I think we're we're stuck in it for a minute But that's the way I went to like I this is the worst of the earnestness is actually what this was the the the catalytic event and why I finally quit violin I We you know, it was like a more broke summer, so the summer before my parents were a little flush and they sent me to interlocking, which is like the big, like, classical music summer camp, and it was incredible.

And I was like surrounded by other like violinists and whatever. And then the next summer, we can't go there, so expensive. But you can go and we've signed you up for chamber music camp at Gettysburg College. There's a movie. Yeah. Ah!

And I was like, crime, puberty. Like, literally on your day off, you would go to Civil War battlefields. Like, it was the biggest hot. And like a humid, like a swampy, humid pavilion with viola players, you know? Like, just like the worst. And that was it.

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I mean, they just, organic, you know? SNL, that's amazing. So also like at Gettysburg Camp, like I was super famous for lip syncing funky town. Like that was my thing. Oh really? That I was known and everybody else was like, you know, like the jamming on the brand in Berk. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. And I was known and everybody else was like, you know, like, just jamming on the Brandon Burke. Yeah.

Exactly. Yeah. And I remember this girl said to my uncle, she's such a funny, she was like, she's so talented and my mom was like, oh, did you play the Brandon Burke with her? She was like, no, no, no. Have you seen her lip saying funky town? Not even saying. Crushed. Yeah. No, not even saying it.

Not even saying it. Just a masterful dubbing. No, it's very clearly that the road's met at Northwestern, because I went to be a voice major. I hated it. I could tell a million stories of like, again, just profound earnestness. The moment in time is in an F-No musicology class, a lecture at eight o'clock in the morning.

And Dana, I feel like this is a character that you would do. It was a man who's like PhD level, renowned in the world, was that he could sing overtones. And he had like studied with the Tibetans. So he could sing like, and something else would float above it. And he had no like discursive style.

He had not gone to Toastmasters. He was not good in. He wasn't good in front of groups. And he would, but Annie had to get moved in order for the overtone to happen. So it would just happen like, you know, sometimes really Dana creeps like Lauren as a monk. Yeah, exactly. Lauren. You're still at the show. Lauren.

Mercy. Foxy. Mercy! Mercy! Um, Liz, so... Anyway, that was the moment, and I actually, I became unglued, and I was asked to lead the lecture because I was making too much noise laughing. And at that moment, I was like, I can't be a voice major. And I met all the improv people.

I met all the improv people and did improv, like, and, and, and, like, ended up transferring to the theater school. And, like, found the tribe, and I did not do any voice at all I like smoked cigarettes and partied and didn't rob and you had voice locked in so you're you're like I'm already good I know I think so I think you're seeing our rickie singers are born right don't you think I mean singers I mean they have to train like if you want to do Broadway you have to train and that that I did after SNL I was pretty late to that because I Because then I like went to SNL and as you guys know, it's such a like,

perma-shit-show that I was kind of like. Perma-shit-show. We'll stick it in that later. Perma-shit-show. Yeah. But it's, no, I mean, this is like my reductive way of saying this, but like, I feel like at SNL, you're always just pulling it off.

Yeah. If you're lucky. And there was this part of me that's like, you know, whatever, wherever it came from, that like sort of a student part of me that was like, I want to do something well. Like I want to refine it and make it better. Yeah.

Yeah. So that's why I think I went to Juxtietr almost immediately. Yeah. Because we were here in New York and Ben Broadway is like, to the two of faults. Wait, you're saying First now you wanted to do that because S&L also has no one problem date and I mentioned is it's one take and sometimes

Right it would be so much better if you could just start again real quick You get off in the wrong foot and you're like god damn and then you're like in it you're go totally I'm going It's not like such a comfort to do recurring characters because you're like, God damn. And then you're like in it, you're going, totally. I'm going in it's not working. I think that's why it's like such a comfort to do recurring characters because you're like, you start to understand their moves and you need the nuances and you know, all of that. Oh yeah. I know the writers don't think

recurring characters are cool, but like that's where you get better at them all the time. That keeps the lights on at NBC. Those recurring characters are the money. I like to watch recurring characters. So I don't mind doing them as well. I like catch phrases. I like things I'm familiar with. So, what?

Holly agree. What was the journey? So you, well, we know you went to Broadway after SNL and you're at Northwestern, you started meeting your tribe. Yeah, so. And then you get to growling somehow, right? Or what? Yeah, a bossy gay from college. Show me to move to LA I love these phrases. Yeah, you know everyone needs one and

Especially cuz like I just had never occurred to me that would be on TV like that wasn't like my Dream really I mean it wasn't that it wasn't but I liked I loved comedy And I knew I was good at comedy from college like me didn't even consider that was a possibility I didn't so I Was like saying you were gonna be president of the United States in my family exactly or the first man on the moon It was so surreal that the people on TV flip Wilson or whoever you want to name is like no I you know I'm gonna be like, you wouldn't have been Flip Wilson in terms of this.

Oh, I couldn't have Geraldine though. The first sort of drag thing, but I never wanted to be a drag, but I was, I guess, sort of. Yeah, but anyway. Why not? Why not? Just be loose, just be happy. So what, so then you go to LA LA or what's that step to the ground? Yeah, so I went to LA.

I did a tour show. I did that. The, they do remember they did the live performances of the Brady Bunch. Yes. Oh, what? The real I Brady Bunch. So I got cast in that national tour, like right out of college.

And it was amazing. David Jones was on the bus with us. Wow. And yeah, for the monkeys. Oh, yeah. And we drove, we went to every college, we were like rock stars, we were just going and do the, we do actual episodes for Bayt and Mother Brady Bunch.

And oddly, I loved the Brady Bunch when I was a kid, which I think has less to do with the fact that I thought it was funny. I just found it super comforting, because my house was kind of crazy and artsy too and very disorganized. I didn't know anybody who had like matching shit. I love it. You know, like that.

Oh, that was, that was cheerful. Did you do the songs like a time for change or keep on or any of those? He did some of those and they wrote some over it. I can't even remember anymore. Yes, there was a whole thing. We're so in shiny day. Hey, but Dana, what was the name of the dog from the Brady bunch? Alice buster go ahead

Wow Nobody knows Brady bunch anymore. I did this event I know Really kind of a sad event and Brady was there doing trivia which you know tells you everything and and I really was there doing trivia, which tells you everything. And nobody knew anything. They knew literally like, what was the name of the maid? I'm like, that's not trivia.

That's just like a basic fact. Can you, how more say the theme song? Because I remember that being a pretty good theme song. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, not only that, I used to tape record it. Like with an old school like, whatever. I had one, I had a Frank tape recorder, real to real. You'd probably, yeah.

And I would tape it exactly and I would listen to it in bed at night. And I would be all the different like, how old are you? Maybe seven or eight. Seven or eight. But I remember I love the variations on the theme. So like, dun dun dun dun. Bum bum bum bum bum. Bum bum bum bum. the variations on the theme. So Oh, suicide is painless. Suicide is painless.

Suicide is painless. When I hear the real song is so sad. B want to tell you the guy that sings that, Dana, the guy that sings that has a list kind of, and he goes, that Chekshi, look, we'll do wonders for you. You know, that guy, and they took that part out of the theme song because he said sexy. So then, they were right to do that.

Yeah, that's true. Matt. We're about Matt. You know, I actually, I have, I'm sure you would agree with this theory. I actually think that half our television has been super hit by not having the theme song. Theme song was, I love them all.

They don't have theme songs, is that right? They will accept it on HBO and all those shows are hits and Netflix, but I'm convinced because it's like this little poor hole hole like it takes you into the world. Yeah, Alice was a good one. There's a lot of great one. Cheers had a great one. You're going.

And I don't have any more there. Just like our genius making them catch it's unbelievable. It's incredible and it re-orient you to the vibe of the show like Queen's Gambit when we were I watched it every time even though I knew it was coming and you skip it. like Queens Gambit. When we were I watched it every time, even though I knew it was coming and he'd skip it. Queens Gambit. Real quickly. When you played the violin for onwarsa. Do you still keep in touch?

Unfortunately, no. He has passed. Oh, okay. Real. I think he was famously assassin. Who have I been DMing this whole time? Anyway, go ahead. Where?

I have to put jokes in. I know you do. You're right. And you're good at your master. Your master. Dana just texted me and said shut up. This is called. That's just every eight or nine seconds. A little app I go to says shut up David. How many of these have you guys done? This is our first. Yeah, we're such for rookies. We don't know what's going on. What we're finding is like I'm finding this is that it's, there's so many people that you run into and I remember you, I you're one of the first names I said, can we get on a gas star? And they're like, okay, just because I remember when I was hosting around, just how real you were and fun. And you just,

we're very, just, I don't know, just had this vibe to me this. You know, I mean, because you did? Yes. I mean, it's just comedians. I like comedians a lot. I like their cynicism. I like the way they read the room. I mean, they've all of us that have been on the show, like, like, I'll feel like there's some head nod that you know, even if I don't know the people, but if they've been on the show, you automatically have something to either say or talk about it. And we talk in shorthand, I think it's fun for people to hear it, because I have a question for you that I might know the answer, but I don't really like, when I, I hosted, and I

think you were there, but, you, you did Martha Stewart and then I did Martha Stewart. I forgot what is the protocol if a host, I don't know if I wanted to do it, but if a host wants to do something, but a cast member does it, an impersonation. Well, I think that's like a well-known impersonation, they'll give it back, right? Like it's, I don't know. Dana, did you do Bush at the same time as Will? No, no, because he did W, which I do in my standard.

Right, right, right. I know that's hard. Yeah, but whoever does it on SNL owns it. It's kind of, who does the president. That's kind of the bully pulpit of doing that impression. Yeah, but Spade is saying that he did not get to own Martha Stewart, and I think his feelings were a little bit hurt. No, no, no.

I only did as a host. It was a one-time deal, but then I felt bad. I was like, I don't want to do something someone does. But, well, I don't have any memory of a sore spot around it. So that, that right there, I really don't know. It wasn't bad. I'm probably, my impression is basically, you look like Martha Stewart. Spade is, that's the writers tell me, my impression is basically, you look like Martha Stone.

I'm like, that's the writers tell me. And I'm like, really? You have blonde hair. And then I wear a wig anyway. So, who cares? Anybody can look like it didn't even, and I think I have a mustache. I'm like, well, it must have been before I was there.

Because we did a lot of them. Like, it was like a pretty, like, yeah. In fact, that's like my first, nothing you're asking, but since it's not really anything. Like a running anything. It was my first thing that I thought like I had I had been on the air and other sketches, but that was the first one I was like, oh, I'm not going to get fired. Because I felt like, oh shit, people, we did Martha Stewart's Topless Christmas and it was like a like a breakthrough. Like I felt like it was maybe my like fourth show or something. It's show, but you were doing it. You were doing like an actual thought out thing and I'm

like this one's Martha Stewart you have a wig on I'm like hey everybody I'm Martha she was one of the things I auditioned with somebody told me will will call me you know he was like heads up it's not a very organized audition process and they're like right and know, I know. Right. And all these roundlings, you know, like we don't do impressions of the ground. It's not like what they're about. But I had always, I, I, obviously, like you write what you know,

like I actually read her magazines and I kind of, I grew up in this pretty like in my, my high school and stuff, lots of like very petitioned women. And I can kind of like, I knew what that was all about. And so I was like, oh, I can write something really brief as that because Will called and he was like, hey, they're going to call you at the last minute, which they did like the day before. They're like, hey, do you have any impressions? And which obviously, if you're not an impressionist, is like a pants shitter of a question.

Sure. So I did in the back of my mind, I was just like, I'm going to prep two and then if I need a mahalo. Were you with Will at the ground? Who was on the groundlings that, that uh? So Will was, was technically a groundling, and so was Sheriotary, but they were ahead of me. And I had done like a couple of improv sets with Will, that was it.

And then I found out later that like, of course, in that way, when they, he had recommended me. He was just like, they were looking, because I came in, so there was a huge turnover in 95, and then they made like two twizzles in 96, and they were me and Tracy Morgan. So it wasn't like a big, everybody auditioned. It was like, they were just looking for a black guy

and a white woman. I think that's when I left. You left right before. I left, I did one season with Will and Sherry. Right, because you did the season right. You did the update desk. Yeah, I did like a little separate bit in the room. Yeah, right.

And then I was out, because I felt like that year was separating me from sort of my guys. And so, yeah, your people were definitely in the crowd before. And so I was like, what am I still doing? I was sort of in between and then I just didn't know what to do. And one goes, do you want to do five minutes a week, just do whatever you want?

I'm like, yeah, I mean, well, I have no ideas. I go, yeah, for sure. And then, and then I just would write stuff, but I felt separate from the crowd. I felt like, singarelli or shiller. Like, I'm not part of, you know, I'm just doing a bit that isn't really interactive with everyone else. I wasn't in sketches.

I don't think. So it was time to go. It does kind of push people out in a way, but now they're staying a lot longer, which is interesting. It's not a big deal to do 10. You let them do stuff. You let them go do other stuff.

When the things you couldn't really do, you had to pick. I know. But if you want to be in a movie, you need to be. We're not bitter. I mean, I'm not bitter. I don't mean it that way, but it is different. No, no, I'm kidding, but I do notice that that people can come and go.

Then you might stay with the show for a much longer if it wasn't. I think it is. And this is like, now I'm going to just be like an old bitchy. We love it. Showbiz bro. Yeah, we'll join. Like, I was thinking about it before I was talking to you guys. And I was, you know, because I have to feel the same way, like, such a tight fraternity. And it really is, if you put it really

well, David, I'd have like, I remember I had never met Sandler before. We were at some Broadway thing. And we, I think we were both gone by then. And he was on down the row. And you just literally did the nod that you were talking about where he was like, yeah, yeah, we were like, I got it, you know, it was just like, yeah, we could talk after. And Kate McInni had never met. And she was in front of me at a Broadway thing and just turned around and was like do you ever know what to write like it was just like an immediate like we're the honest friends you know like it was it's wild how it like brings it up that it is a major generationally the fact that they don't they don't ever have to go and

that they're 150 of them and I think also like in terms of social media and the kind of construct of everybody being a brand now, our generation, I think, and this is such a fucking, we may as well be at the Screen Actors Guild Home. I can't remember if I'm right now. But in my day, I feel like, I do feel like there was more worship of the show, the idea of we're here to serve the show and Lord, and now I feel like there's so many of them are like, what can the show, like the idea of like we're here to serve the show and Lord. And now I feel like there's so many of them are like, what can the show do for me? Like how fast will my brand expand?

And how many things, you know, because it's got this different, that's where they all just stay around forever because like, it's just kind of like, just a grand one. Just shifted because when Nike wanted to do Hans and Franz for their just do it campaign, for a lot of money. Right. Different time. Lauren called me. It's not what we do, you know, because we're still tethered romantically to John Lennon

or Bob Dylan or you never sell out. You're doing. So when I came off the show when I had all that heat from way through everything, you know, I didn't really do any commercials, but now cast members. It's transition. They can do all these different Yeah, and I think this back to Pearl. Could we maybe get Pearl back on the phone? Can you have your producers have them get back? They can see you kind of strut around your hair's all fluffed. You're singing some Broadway tune. You come off stage, right?

You just this a curtain call and then you go right to camera. I want to be a hot beauty. I sit in the water and go, hi. Yeah, that's exactly right. Thanks. Hi, I'm a wash my hair in eight days, but because I wash it with Pro, still looks pretty fat. I think it works. And then I try to pull in one catch phrase just to make it. Yeah. Just to make a real one. Yeah, not because I'm worth it, but something in that world. It's something from us. Because I'm mean. So I go like, I go like, it's a good thing.

Or say something like Martha Stewart or something. You know, when I was doing the show, we had the problem of doing a movie at the same time. But I think when Will Ferrell hosted a couple about two years ago, I saw Pete Davidson went to a wedding in Miami. And I was like, I couldn't be Tommy Boy. I couldn't plead to do anything.

Pete does his own thing. He's great. I mean, he's just dancing about all the things. There was different ways they handled different situations on the show. And I think it's just flipped one day where we can work around it. And it was never even, you couldn't bring it up.

Steve Higgins, you know, he has a funny, he's really fun to talk to about the show. But Steve Higgins told me, he's like, Lauren wrote the Constitution for what is SNL. And then he lets generations do what they will with it, you know, amendments. I don't know. That's such a good way of putting it, just I would like to just for a second when we always talk about

You know the spree decor and we're like X marines not literally, but you know what I mean is just the The dirty greasiness of it like you're sweating the wigs coming off the pins that you're underclose your you're being moved I would sometimes they take a wig off and they put one on and I need to see myself. Oh, I'm Jimmy Stewart now, you know? So the freneticism of it at times and the quick changes and almost falling, there is a battlefield aspect to it. It's a rock and roll kind of emotionally violent,

you know, Dickixil five seconds. Yeah, and also there's so much noise because the band is usually playing. So loud. And you forget that they're going, I can't. This one is when you and the writers looking at the notes and you're like,

uh-huh, okay. Hands up, we're short for time, cuts on the air. Yeah. I remember I was doing, I was doing Dr. Laura. And we got to like, that was the closest I ever got to just purely, just like a 10 seconds catch that was cut to the, you know,

to run to broadcast stripes. Yeah, I mean, literally because they were on the floor. I remember Paula Powell was like, on the floor, during this, I think it was Jen or Van Ruy, somebody's like, going spinning their hand in front of the camera, like, ramp it up. And you're like, we just started. I'm like, you're ramping up, I'm like, you're ramping up. You know, and they're like, spinning their hand in front of the camera like wrap it up and you're like we just started how to wrap it up, you know, and they're like you're like staring at the cards and Paul is like shouting and they're taping off

like walley's like rewriting so it's like on the cards. Oh my god. So like during the sketch which folded from like two and a half minutes to like around 15 seconds. You know, like you're just like, welcome to the show and we're arriving at it up. Like it was just like the fastest. Yeah. I love that. That was so adrenal. I was doing church chat once.

I had the cards and I'm running them during the commercial. And then they sat down in a chair, a seven foot man. So while the show starts and then I can't see half of each card. The seven foot man's head. And so you're in your head going, what the fuck is the seven foot man's head in front of the cue card? And yet you have to let all that go. And who is coming in late all of the sudden? You guys still have dreams all the time. Like, well, like, I feel like for everyone on

SNL, like, I actually just asked Will recently because I hadn't talked to him in a long time and I was like, I'm fucking out of SNL dream last night. It's like I have them all the time. They kind of replaced the like, late for the test or whatever that's, you know, that's it that you're already and you're supposed to be out there and you're not there. Yeah. I have the ones I thought about when you said the cue cards, like I have one where I can't

see the cards, like they're like my eyes are blurry And I can't clear my eyes or like you're trying to make it to 8-8 you can't get through the all the fucking agents I got all yeah all those guys kind of hanging around Understand that was like how many Layers of chaos can we add? Oh, I know we won't actually have a green room We're all the douche bag of Hollywood hangs out. We'll let them just like mill around the desk, a desk at eight age and never clear a path like you were constantly like I'm doing something here and then being

a tiny hill and I saw your dress is like raggedy and or something super embarrassing. You've got a pole cap on for two hours and your head is just raw and sweating and you're in that little room and Lauren you look at the the show the show the sketches are in little cards and they're moving around you're going well hopefully it'll be okay we'll see or you're in a quick change area in your age and as an am still it and six is head in what's going on here and you're like they're like. I'm like, get out of here. Hey, how's it going?

Yeah. Fuck out of my back. We're after party again. Is it an or so? Yeah, literally. Like, can we come all of those like, we want to come down and support you? I remember one time yelling. Like, if you want to support me, turn on your TV and stay home.

Stay home. Are they still your representation? I'm amazing. They home. Are they still here? Who are they? I'm from Farty. Amazingly they are. It's good. It was just a lot to like, when I think about, because especially in the theater where you have like, I mean, whatever, like any piece of, they treat you like such a child in any other aspect of entertainment.

Like, showbiz is you're like, you're, you're call time and you can firm your call time and make a thing and somebody's moving you along and like feeding you and we were such like, you're fair all children. Like, yeah, women, like we have so much hair and makeup and we would just, I actually couldn't believe it when the last time I went back, I was like, you've done like do all this math yourself. You have to go like, oh, right.

We have to be ready for dress at 805. I better get in the chair by 630. Yeah, right. I better, like you chair by 630. Yeah, right. I better, like, you're always like doing your own stage management. Yeah. Did you have, I think, Dana, you lived at the Bromley. I was on 84th in West End, and I knew nothing about New York.

But I did know that I thought it was odd later in show business that they didn't get me to the show. So if Saturday show is at one or whatever, we have to be there, I'm at home going, I can't get me to the show. So if Saturday's show is at one or whatever, we have to be there, I'm at home going, I can't get a cab, it's snowing, and I'm just walking, going, does anyone give a fuck? I won't be at rehearsal. Now they would never let you, I don't know about this show,

but any movie or anything I do, we got a guy, they can keep track, where is he? Make sure he's early. You're an Ellen, they're calling 50 times. It's a lot of executive functioning, if you you will for a lot of people without those skills Right, we are like I'm like how does not know more McDonald ever get the show? I know I think your generation had more food, but by the time we got there's big enormous Donald He kicked in there was like all we have was a one

So machine and he kicked it in the first week Mad at it and they removed it. And then literally, it was just like no food. Like, we would steal Twitzi rolls from Lauren's office and popcorn from the office. The popcorn from Lauren's office. Where are my life savers? Yeah, exactly.

It was Twitzi rolls, remember? Like, Twitzi rolls. And then like, and then, and booze or like booze around. Kind of. But like, nothing new. Kind of like on, and definitely and booze or like booze around kind of but like nothing new kind of like on And definitely you would steal Chinese food from his office on Saturdays, right? Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, you would go in there and just Shut up inside of his office. Yeah, the shunley would be out there. Yeah, yeah, like

Yeah, you would forage his shunley and And then like, and then for a while, the Rosio Donald show was down the hall on N8H, so like, at the age of, and so they had food in there like our dressing rooms. They knew what was up. There was a lot of like dumpster diving for television. The point of it is is that you're a cast member on SNL. It is just not glamorous. Afterwards, if you're at the Emmys or something, it's glamorous, but not the actual show. It's so cool. It sounds so spoiled, because here you are on television. But it really is.

If I think about how, I think there was a lot of stress around all of that, like trying to figure out where the, like you said, like one time, this is crazy. I remember trying to get home on a Friday night. I think eventually they started calling cars for us on Friday night. I don't know why. A lot of trouble getting cars the whole time I was there because it was always true.

Yeah, maybe. Oh, sorry. So I was a Friday night. It was super late. And I had like, it was the holidays. So I had like a lot of stuff with me that I was like trying to get home. And I could, there were no caps. There was a holidays, you know, the mid of that tree goes up around 30 Rockers screwed

for the next six weeks. And I was down past the New York public library. So I was like 40th or 39th at this point. And I've been walking a super long time and hailing a cab, like just walking down Fifth Avenue or the downtown. So just like arm up. And it was such a like out of a movie because it was it was my first season. And this is also tribe tribal moment. This cab pulls up the door swings open and he sticks his head out and goes, oh, the aceroid, get in. Aceroid. And I was like, how does Dan Aceroid know who I am? How does he seem like he just saw this like pathetic popper child trying to get a car on a Friday night in this

snow? I know. And again, it was just like the tribe, the tribe. That's so nice. Dan Acroix is very, a very generous person that way. We see how he wrote. He wrote, he took me home. And I remember thinking like, do I, like, what do I do? Do I pay? I know. I just thought Acroix and Blue Shee and those guys and Chevy and Bill Murray were just sort of badass pirates that would fight you or make you laugh or punch you or get, I mean. Brody and Blue Shee and those guys and Chevy and Bill Murray were just sort of badass pirates that would fight you or make you laugh or punch you or get a...

And then when I'm cast, the only one I saw of my tribe kind of physically at the time was Martin Shore. I said, okay, maybe a wiry, Irish guy can be in here. But when you get cast on that show, I don't know how do you feel worthy. It was my first time doing sketch comedy. I just hoped it would work out, never done it before. But I adapted my standup to sketch. But so one thing,

by the way, okay, go ahead. Well, I'm just, when we go around to this, I'm just very interested because I watched the MPR gas today. And I thought no sketch that quiet and that paste has ever killed that hard. I was about to ask about that. Because a lot of the stuff is kind of yelling and rocking around singing. But that was intentionally so quiet.

And you and Molly never pushed, never completely in the pocket of it. And it just was seduced the audience so much. So it's a unique sketch in that it was at home base, right? Which house problem? Good observation. Did it start at home base or did it move there out of popularity? It did start there. I don't think they didn't, I don't think they thought it was going to work.

Exactly. I mean, for a number of reasons, whatever. We can talk gender politics or whatever, but it was the new time. Yeah, yeah. Two girls. You're really good. What are we doing? I mean, it was just like Chiuquat. Yeah, exactly. But I had done it at the ground in Tanquayet. I think they were, it was buried pretty deep in the lineup. Oh, okay.

But I had done it before and it was weirdly relaxing because it was so quiet because, you know, it's like will used to always, will really loves bombing. Like he could really lean into the bomb, like sort of like a pig in a mud bath. And like that sketch has a similar quality not that it was bombing, but that you would just like get to kind of

surf the silence if that makes the sense. They sort of audience feels like they have to earn it. Like I have to really pay attention here and get this one. It's not being fucking thrown at me. They have to be like, okay, this is the one where we got to find the jokes and really like stew and it's nice. Those are nice that they even do them. I know.

I thought I think they thought it was going to bomb. And then and really you know Karlock and and Dennis wrote it with me too. I mean Nicholas so they're brilliant writers obviously. Yeah it's gonna save. Did they do you have help right? Yeah but we was always fighting like what the character would say versus what they want you know they were all and they're like Harvard so they were like and then for more robots come in and the moon landing will happen you know whatever but they were really, I mean, so structurally so really,

and they could like, it was the perfect, actually, I think, for me, tension between a character and a premise and what kind of can like move that idea forward a little bit. And I do think if you, and I didn't get there just confidence wise until I happened to then do Carson, which I've talked about,

but that was something that was relatively quiet compared to Wayne's world or something. But I just knew it was so funny in my head that it was the only sketch I did where the audience didn't really matter that much to me. So it felt like you and Molly were so in the pocket and so connecting with the dry, slowness and playing the pauses that there was no sense of neediness or sense of... Oh, that's awesome. I mean, that's what I'm feeling.

It felt that way. I mean, it definitely felt like it was out of space and time. And like I said, I had done it at the ground length. So I knew it was capable of crushing, because it really was a hit sketch there. But I had, you know, not a lot, but I'd done it a hit sketch there, but uh, I had you know Not a lot, but I've done it a couple times and I in the Sunday show, but I knew kind of what to anticipate

When you I don't know. I don't know. We're not gonna keep you forever, but I have another question if you This is interesting to me. So you have That NPR sketch in your pocket when you get there, but yeah, how you whip it out or did you come out of the gate you were doing okay because sometimes you get scared you go I gotta get on or they're gonna fire me or you know what I mean. I was pretty productive. Cuz you were a full cast member, you didn't come in as a feature and then become. I don't even get that either. Like I don't know why that happened.

You were just focused. You got to be full cast right away. Yeah. I did. Which I really don't know why that happened. You were just, you got to be full cast right away. Yeah. Yeah. Which I really don't know why that happened. Will. Maybe.

Because it doesn't seem to have much of a rhyme or reason. I think it was because I was telling, like I was in that off year. I really don't know why. It was like I started in September or, I just, I think they were like whatever. Nobody was paying attention. Well, your audition must have helped a little bit.

I mean, I think Fred Wolf was like a real champion, as I remember, I, he left like immediately upon getting there. I was like, can I talk to you for a second? I'm going to talk about you in a second. I just want to talk about Dana for one thing and I'm going to talk about you. You're really funny. He's funny too. Not, not quite as funny. Anyway, this is really good. I think it was a great problem.

But anyway, oh my God, it's so funny what you did. Oh my God, I came to you like smarty advocates and mk really liked me early and And he was you know, I think recent head writer there. I don't know like I just I think I had like advocates in the room that I didn't I don't know why that and who were who were you in the corner primary bandmates essentially then You had Molly you had Rachel, Trash, later and Maya. Well, so again, I was going to say, transpissionally, like I was kind of, I was a, I consider myself like a bridge cat.

We were sort of the vanguard, like Sherry and Molly and I sort of did this thing for the reputation, you know, partially just timing of the, of the gals. Like, right. We just started getting attention as a trio. But then fairly quickly thereafter they brought in Tina as a writer. She definitely advanced that cause. And then by the time I left it was like you know polar and Maya and Rachel and like it had like a full-blown lady later. So I actually spend a lot of time with the second half of that group of women.

I mean a lot like we travel together and we talk every day. So that's my Rachel. It's my Ateena Amy, Rachel Paula. Tina and Amy and Paula Pell. Yeah. And Paula. And by the way, that's a lot of home run hitters and you say about women, but that's a lot of solid, solid talent. Oh, of solid solid talent. I think we found

I mean, I don't want to speak for them and spy me too We like I said I don't want to speak for them. I will speak for myself that for me the sort of you know Because the show itself is organized in this kind of race horse fashion And so you can't really pay a lot of attention to your tribe or whatever in house. I mean you It's like your like your loyal to your. I mean, it's like you're loyal to your family, but you hate them. You notice this weird combination of things. But then after in the sort of gratitude phase, I got really close to those women. I think I'm looking back and going, you know, so few people on the planet earth understand what

shaped and made us who we are. And even if you made it through. And I feel that way about SNL people in general, but especially those women, just because we were really outnumbered and, you know, and yeah, I just feel that. Well, I really feel that was the first time the turning point in terms of like when my cast was there and we had Jan Hooks and Nora Dunn and stuff but I they were incredible and they're incredible but I wanted to do the show yeah yeah I mean Jan Hooks just you know supernatural Nora Dunn's

I looked up to them when I got there I had like a crush on them both because they were so good I'm like they're so talented oh my god I know they're so talented and at read through you learn about people from read through and see how good they are when they grab a script They haven't seen it. They're like nailing you're like what the fuck yeah, Jan could do And another weird like right. I always say like we're mutants. We're sort of like we are we have a mutant skin We're made a little to have a walk in plug in my computer. Just a little ghost. I like this I know you get to see the whole the whole operation. She's like, I planned this many batteries for this interview.

I know. You know what? My husband told me that I'm actually going to throw a media blame. He told me that he had charged this. A media blame. Not even we call it the blame reflex in her house. Just you injure yourself. It's your spouse's fault. yourself, it's your spouse's fault. But all I wanted to say was as a casual observer of that cast of those Europe bandmates, the Maya and Amy, when I've run into them casually, they're so affable, so honest.

There's a humility around all performers at some basis, and then there's a confidence. So they're just fun. And I do think that the cast never went backwards after that. I think it was at least 50-50 men and women dominance. And maybe more women almost. It made it that definitely changed. In the last 20 years, you know, between Cam and you're saying and writing, you know, with between came and the writing, you know, big show of different women now on the show too. Huge. Huge. And they're playing men now a lot.

I mean, the culture has changed. The culture of, you know, the, the, the, the, the, the, the law and wrote the Constitution and just said, you're eventually going to be a female dominated show. Did you just happen? But there, I mean, and that's true. I think also it's so nice to see so many black cast members. I mean, that's, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I mean, I got, I did not feel screwed over. I felt very celebrated there and very fortunate, to be honest. And who knows?

But like, I was just speaking to the quality of like, when you're saying the tribe, like who's people. And I, like I said, there's so many people that I run into that I love pretty much anyone, but from the era, but in a really regular way, like we just sort of fell into this kind of coffee clatch where we talk all the time and celebrate each other's birthdays. And again, that's awesome.

That's awesome. But it's also like, you know, so I have to plug it. The drag and I actually wrote a movie together this year and that's about to come out. And again, just speaking of shorthands, talk about making something go fast so much faster than it would have. She's so funny. She's so funny. Yeah, we about making something go fast so much faster than it would have She's so rich. Oh, yeah, we have wrote this. It's funny. Is it come? Yeah, she's so funny. Yes, so we wrote it together We actually produced it and we're in it and what's it called and what it's called a cluster funk Chris. Oh, that's right. Yeah, I read about that and again just being able to write it with a fellow, you know

I read about that. And again, just being able to write it with a fellow, you know, alumna. So we have all that shorthand. And usually the sensibility is within the same frequency. So when anyone says, both people go, well, that's it. Oh, we're gonna do that immediately. The number of times I would have, it was like uncanny.

Like just in the notes or whatever, like in the edit, they would each go back in the note and be like, oh, no, I didn't like what you did there. Either, yes, I like that take back in the notebook and be like, oh, no, I didn't like what you did there either. Yes, I like that take. There were so many things like that. And just maniacal, which I had forgotten and it's not that I don't love all the other jobs that I do.

You know, I do. I always find something fun. But the maniacal, like weird, hormone-releasing brain laughs, when you get laughing with an SNL. I don't know what it is. Like that writing sick laugh. Yeah, it's honest. You don't want to talk about where you just cry laughing.

And you can't. That's part of the fun because you go, we just hit on a great idea. We just hit on a great thing. It's such a euphoria rush. It's euphoria. Shit, we're so fun. What's the word I'm looking for? Like that goes off in yourphoria. Shit, we're so fond of it. What's the word I'm looking for, like, that goes off in your brain when you, when you,

the happy place. And endorphins rush. Endorphins. Yeah, endorphins. Yeah, just like a crazy endorphin. And we did it every single day we were filming. And we were playing like, it's all set in, you know, the Christmas scene, world. We played these horrible like Mrs. Claus, like, Brank and a mask.

That's stupid. Anyway, we've, you know, in same SNL style with the worst wigs ever. Yeah. We play these horrible like Mrs. Claus like rinkin' and ask her that's what's stupid. Anyway, you know, same SNL style with the worst wigs ever. Yeah. Like popping, because like the more you laugh, like the spirit gun's like popping free, because you're laughing so hard, and just trying and the makeup's calling out.

It was, it was such a joy ride to do. And such a great memory of what that is. And Shigger and Booz, you tour with your band, you a big kind of an orchestra, and you actually sing, it's funny, but you're actually like a cabaret singer. Yeah, I, it's a Christmas album I released in 2019. Yeah. Shigger and Booz, and I wrote a bunch of Christmas songs. It's a really throwbacky album. I feel like you guys would like it. It's a, we have horns. We don't, it's out full orchestra, but I have a big one. Yeah, I saw I saw you on Zath show with your like a maybe a six piece band

Sing yeah, yeah, yeah, super fun. So it's just very throwbacky old-time e to nostalgic holiday vibes Uplifting jeez your busy or touring there you're making movies or just yeah, I'd actually be for plugging I'm actually on a new show American auto American auto yes, I saw your Wikipedia page. It sounded like a part you could crush with Oh my god, it's so fun. I mean, it's very it's a very much of an NBC show. It looks like an NBC show. It's got just Spitzer who created it He started that show super store and he wrote on office for a long time. Yeah, he's it's got just since bits are who created it He started that show super store and he wrote on office for a long time So he's it's got that whatever you want to call it. So you're the kind of very take cocky executive with no intrinsic knowledge

Yeah, no, no, no, she comes from she comes from big farm. I just know anything about cars You know on I I looked you up and we'll let you go, but last there when I say you It says all these great facts about you. And then one on its own line says, she's friends with Ken Jong. Toot. Did you look, is it on Wikipedia? Yeah, it's got your own line and section.

Yeah, I saw it. It's got big gap around it. That's where you know it's like, crowdsourced bio. Like who was that person? She was like, you know, it's like, a cropped sourced bio. Like, who was that person? She was like, you know, I need to add here. Yeah, let's give a complete package of who she is. Also, I love that because I kind of know Ken Jong,

but it's not like we have things given together. It's not number one of the nicest guys show business in a way, right? It's unbelievably nice. Yeah. The only reason they said it was like, did that read? He could be on mine. I know.

I'm going to say she's friends with David. David. Yeah. Give me my own line at least. You guys both get a line now. I mean, we've spent a lot of time together now. We have. All right, funny men.

All right, thanks for having me. Thank you very much. So fun to see you. We're going to run into you at the 50th maybe. Oh hell, I don't know if I can do it. I don't know. How do you feel about that when it comes up out of curiosity?

What's your like gut? Like, maybe? I feel like the 40th kind of was just by a wing in a prayer, but sort of turned out quasi magical probably. More than quasi. As a might drop for Lauren and just that. And Lauren instead of the time, everyone, not everyone of us will be here probably more than cause as a my drop for Lauren and just that and I told

Lauren instead of the time everyone not everyone of us will be here for the 50th so it's a little bit like civil war veterans in the 1930s you know coming out and so I don't know but I mean I don't know it seems a little bit like I'm bridge too far but I agree with you like and that was such a read in all of our minds like yeah I mean I would I don't like you I like took to my bed after that But yeah, I agree with you. Like, and that was such a, in all of our minds, like the most, I mean, I don't like you, I like to hook to my bed after that, for like a,

oh yeah. I, like the, I felt like I'd been on drugs or something. Like the crash. It was an overload of every cast member and just the intensity. Well,

everywhere you turn and it's a one place instead of some Hollywood party where you feel like you sort of belong there. So when you have key, twitch or just something go, hey, and they're nice because they're on your turf, you know, in a weird way. It's fun to see it's such a good way of putting it because it is true. Like I am very, I get very, people say, go ahead, you're nervous about who did you get the most nerves about meeting and it is weird when you were working at the show.

You don't really because you're home and they're coming to your house and you want to make them well. They're coming to you. They're more scared. They're more scared. Yeah. It's like spiders, not really. Paul McCartney gave me a back massage during the good nights.

That was my fun. I didn't get one. I was doing the good nights, you know, and I'm off to the side and then Eddie Murphy and everyone's over in the center and then I feel this, you know, and I'm off to the side and then Eddie Murphy and everyone's over in the center and then I feel this You know and I look and it's Paul just want to see how you do and then you know just feel tight, you know So there were three chairs watching a monitor and I sat and it was Steve Martin sat in that one Then Jim Carey sat in that one. We're all watching and just start laughing and talking and I go when are you gonna be with? You know just in just vicinity, wherever you stood,

wherever you turned, someone you're like, that guy, that guy. I know, and Custard would be like, Peyton Manning and like Diane Swear. Like, it was so many levels of American culture that like it just, I think Sarah Palin was, like, everybody was famous in the bleachers. Every face was famous.

But all different ways and like, you said, they all know who you were. It in the bleachers. Every face was famous. But it's all different ways of ending up. Like you said, they all know who you were. It was the weirdest feeling ever. No plus one. I will say for myself, because you always think, well, where do I stand? I haven't done anything in a while. You can get into self-deprecation, but for myself,

if I had had anyone on SNL or really anywhere, make me laugh really hard just once. I'm sort of respectful and a fan at that point. You know, I don't know. You are in the great, you're in the like the most important cornerstone. That I think for a lot of us, I think what you're saying is the same thing, whatever bitterness or anxiety or therapy sessions you've had, your own personal journey. Yeah. You know, all of us, the show certainly brings those things about. Like, that evening was this moment where, and you could say, like, I'm actually weirdly

a part. I have more choice, but to embrace this. Yeah. I'm like part Italian and part SNL, like whatever it is, you know, that's your DNA. And mutant skin, like, I keep saying, like, I don't, you know, like an avenger or something. Like, nobody in the real world, like, I've't, you know, like an Avenger or something. Like nobody in the real world, like I've done theater, music theater people are so fun. I've done TV half hour people are so wonderful. SNL people are like straight up tribal. Like that is my. There's only one. Yeah. Screwed up. Yeah. It's crazy. It's still on live in New York and everything. It's amazing. I know. And it's

fun too. In my kids, now I have a 13 year old, my 19 year old's like, you know, last year, when she was like, can I please just go to the show? I guess it was, was it last year or a year before, before, you know, it was millennia, I think. She was just like, can we go see it live? Like I'm old enough and I've never been, you know. And then the 13 year old now, like we stay up every Saturday and it's really good.

Oh, do they walk down the hall and they say see a picture of their mom. Well my 13 year old hasn't been there yet and also you know they're annoyed by me because I have a lot of you know feedback but also peacock now yeah but you know this but that's also oh does it run them runs all of our stuff in it. You can, you can like, this last summer is a fun, you can type in like a certain era or show or whatever. So I actually sometimes I've been known to wear myself a generous and sit down with the children and force them to watch mother's material. Take a look. There's just one more. You ain't going to bed not on my side. It wasn't successful. But let me tell you something it was it was it was ahead of its time

You think it was easy. This one was from dress. Yeah, exactly Exactly all right guys. Be well. Thank you for having me. Anna. Thank you. See you when we see you could luck to God bless Love hanging out. Take take care Hey, what's up flies? What God bless, take care. Take care. Hey, what's up flies? What's up, Blaze? What's up, people that listen? We want to hear from you and your dumb questions. Questions, ask us anything.

Anything you want. You can email us at flyin'thewallatgadens13.com. Hey guys, this is a question we have from Ted Sean from Swany Georgia Ted Shahn Hey guys love hearing all the great stories about SNL over the years can either of you remember Whether is it read through dress or air the hardest You ever saw Lauren laugh you probably have one keep the shows coming do you think Lauren would come on the podcast? We told Lauren. I think he will one day

It's all just so whenever Lord is the biggest star of the podcast. We talk about him all the time. Yeah, whenever He would like to It's an open invitation. Can we do it between Justin there? President Obama can we do it at the page desk? That thing of like no, we love Lauren You gave up you started. Oh, I just you burn out on a new lawn I really it's that you know

Everyone knows it's a movie theater and not a podcast studio This is my movie This is fun in here though. I'm not gonna watch so we have this new you did live like 1.3 miles That's the thing about LA. It's a 45 minute drive, then you look at all the things, it's like 1.6 miles. She's just all traffic. But then you moved from your other place,

at this place, to 0.09 from my place. So when it's not 100 degrees out, I could probably walk. Oh, Danny, you're gonna walk? He's like, no, it's 40 minutes. Okay, so here it is. The hardest you heard Lauren laugh, and then I'm trying to think of one. I have ones that are second tier or second hand. Okay. Bill Hader told me that Lauren told him that the funniest thing he ever heard was, this is Bill Hader saying it's not me, was me doing Bert Lancaster,

Bert Lancaster and Kirk Douglas as more than friends, put it that way. That's how you put it. How they, I do it now, I do it more like they're gonna wrestle. I lack to come to your house. I lack to wrestle. I like to wrestle too. 495, 7-4, Canon drive.

There's a gate at the side. Pound 1274. Now be that 4PM. Should I bring anything? Bring lemonade and bagels. We're gonna get naked. Tumon naked wrestling in the backyard. Sorry. It goes on I like it. I'm not that into it. But I heard that was that. Another one I heard and this was Rob Schneider's sketch, but I was in it massive head wound hairy They said that Lauren because it was a dog going crazy laughed incredibly hard Lauren has a great sense of humor and has a violent intense sudden laugh Yeah, you when you're around just like really loves comedy by the way if he laughs

I can't think of a particular instance But when he laughs at read through and if he laughs at one of't think of a particular instance, but when he laughs at read-through and if he laughs at one of your sketches, it is so fun because you know what's getting on, he slaps the table, laughs, and it's unreal. Because the last three years, it was Lorne Host me. Oh, that's a hot scene. So I'm right next to him. And I'm right next to the host.

So they get a fucking tsunami of bi, because I'm so nervous, it's like those, you know, a nuclear bomb commercials where it's like, everything goes flat. You know, it's like, whew, Tom Hanks like, whew, like flat when I take off my shirt. I gotta be taken off my shirt for this next sketch. I used to get spaghetti delivered from a Wally.

What is it called? Wally's something. Not moose on Frank's, it's Wally Joseph's. And Mar? Wally. Oh yeah, Wally something. Not moose on Franks. It's Wally Joseph's. And Marcy would get someone to get it. Wally can put it in front of me in front of fucking everyone. I'd be like, thanks. Oh, no.

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he'd be, he'd be, he'd be, he'd be, he'd be, he'd be, he'd be, he'd be, he'd be he'd be, he'd be, he'd be, he'd be, he'd be, he'd be, he'd be, he'd be, he'd be be, in that room if David does not get a little bit of food in him. Sickening. It is. Temporary time. They cracked the window one quarter of an inch. Anyway, Lauren laughed a lot of read through. I did that's a good question. I wish I had a better. I don't know. I have a specific answer. I will say this because he's your boss and he's seen it all.

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