Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Darrell Hammond

Episode Date: February 9, 2022

Impressions galore, the pressure of SNL, and surpassing Dana for the most times saying "Live from New York" with Darrell Hammond. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: h...ttps://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Whether you're doing a dance to your favorite artist in the office parking lot, or being guided into Warrior I in the break room before your shift, whether you're running on your Peloton tread at your mom's house while she watches the baby, or counting your breaths on the subway. Peloton is for all of us, wherever we are whenever we need it, download the free Peloton app today. Peloton app available through free tier, or pay subscription starting at 1299 per month. So I was selling my house Dana and we had an offer and the guy goes, we'll give you half, cash, and half bitcoins. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Oh, my sons would say take it. I know, but I got scared.
Starting point is 00:00:46 I would have taken a little bit of Bitcoin's, but I don't know because then it got in like, we can get you a conduit in the metaverse, a really good one. It's just being built. I'm like, right. I know the metaverse, or we're going to go straight in the metaverse. Are we behind or what? We've got to get in the metaverse. I feel stupid. I live in the regular verse. I know this physical world is kind of a drag. I just want to put the goggles on, sit back, light up something, have a little liquid encouragement, and just live my life in the beginning, stress the world.
Starting point is 00:01:16 But I do like seeing you in the Wall Street Journal, and I you know, I read a lot of newspapers online, and I see your face in David's Bade sales and then it's just this gigantic number I'm like It's it's a new world when everyone knows the square footage of your house and they walk through it and go oh So that's where you sleep. That's where you eat your carrots It's just definitely weird and then I'm gonna go to the house going on strangers in the street. Hey did a visual tour of your house I got gross. Hey, you know the tour of your house. I got, gross.
Starting point is 00:01:45 Hey, you know, the premise of people in show business is that all of us have the exact same goal to be as famous as possible. Sick. Like that is our goal. So I've seen you run much lately. You know, my son, I still get this. I've been in the business 40 years.
Starting point is 00:02:02 My kids love you. They're like, they're like eights. 13. Really, what about you 40 years. My kids love you. They're like, they're like eights. Really? What about you? My kids love you. I'm barely, no, can I get a picture because my kids say you're something. You know, you know, on Darrell Hammond. Darrell Hammond, one of the best impressionists ever. Yeah, long 10 year at SNL, he had a great room. His, his Clinton, after the Great Late Phil Hartman did him, and it was Clinton's second term in Daryl's take on it, was very kind of owned it. He did the lascivious thing, but it wasn't Grotesque.
Starting point is 00:02:34 It was just very subtle. Do like mamas, you know? He's so fun to talk to it, because he loves to talk process. You guys are gonna talk about the process of, you know, how do you come up with impressions? How do you do it? Do you copy other people?
Starting point is 00:02:50 Do you take tricks? You're making your own, it's so, it was so interesting because I don't do many and I wanna hear the whole situation. Anyway, yeah, it's interesting part of comedy. Anyway, when you see someone do something, like I don't even like to really watch comedians
Starting point is 00:03:03 because they may be doing something that I've thought of and I'll think I'm copying them. So within impression, it's kind of the same thing when someone gets it out there first and does all the hooks, you know? Yeah, they find a hook that you don't find it like, oh, and I would look like I do that. So I have to copy those hooks.
Starting point is 00:03:19 So I jump quick with Biden, just get that turf. And I don't see anybody trying to do by it. Yeah, you get the blueprint of the hooks. I have new hooks too. But talking with Darryl was really fun. I've noticed with people we interview, there's a humility and kind of a self-deprecating aspect. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:39 And I kind of think that driven people, the reason they're so successful is, hey, you did this, this, this, this, like, yeah, we had the best Clinton, then your dick chain was amazing. All right, you know what I mean? It's really interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I guess it's part of drive as you never go. I arrived, you know, you, people in our career have gotten that attitude and they were gone in like a weekend. Yeah, I think you're, you have so many failures when you're doing this job that you just, it's so hard to get cocky because you just know there's another one around the corner. One of our former managers goes, some guys do this for money, that's okay.
Starting point is 00:04:16 This is Brad Gray. But you seem to do it because you want to do the funniest thing. That is the truth. Well, yeah, we want this podcast to be good. Yeah, rather than, you know, it's a victory lap. It's called resting on your laurel. You don't have to do anything new.
Starting point is 00:04:32 I don't know. I mean, I like our friends Steve Martin and our friend Martin Short. Yeah. Doing an incredible half hour comedy on Hulu. Cain's 13 produces this show. Oh, yeah, Cain's 13. this show. Yeah, Kaden's 13. Kaden's 13. Kaden's 13.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Which I thought was like a space station. Yeah. Kaden's 13 come in. I thought it was 13. Kaden boy band. Kren boy band. Oh yeah, you saw my, there hits. Hey girl. And what you think and girl.
Starting point is 00:04:57 Hey podcast girl. Darryl Hammond is, he has an emotional story. He had a very interesting childhood, like a lot of us. And so we do kind of unpack that. And we go into the process pretty deeply. And we admire some of our other impressionists. Where their impressions are so good, we don't want to try.
Starting point is 00:05:20 All right, here's Darrell Hammond. [♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ We're never going to use this one anyway, Dan. I never, there's not a chance. Oh, hey, Darrell. That's our number one request, is Darrell Hammond. That's it. Get the guy who said, live from the New York more times than Dan Agarno.
Starting point is 00:05:42 Because Carvey's so cocky about that life from New York stuff. Hey, by the way, Daryl, we're gonna let you talk at the very end, but me and Dana talk the whole time. But do you know, I didn't even know I was angry with you until just now because I never got to say life in New York. You didn't? No. Isn't that horrible? Darrell, how many times did you say it?
Starting point is 00:06:08 Do you know? I heard it was in the 80s. I just heard you broke my record. I had people like, brook a record, man. I go, I didn't even know I had a record. I never even got close. Never got close to that. Well, it's because you had, now mostly when you're the president,
Starting point is 00:06:22 you get to do it a lot. So you did it a lot as Clinton. And then what were you doing it from 2000 to 2009 after Clinton got out? Let's see. We'll Clinton did twice. And then Bush came in, so then I was playing Cheney. So I did it out there. And then I was Cheney. And then there was about a year there where I was doing it a lot as Trump. So I did it out of the love, it was chaining and, and, um,
Starting point is 00:06:49 and then there was about a year there where I was doing it a lot as Trump. So I think that's was Dana. Did Dana did did you ever go live from Gaga is by Gaga. I just eventually they didn't even know. I mean, the cue cards just were in Greek. Just said words like still just like, la-ga-ga. Ga-da-ga. All my comedy is just things that make no sense.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Ga-da-ga. That's funny. Ga-ga-ga. But one of the best rhythms that I heard as a guy doing a politician was Darryl doing lockbox. I mean, the way you say, it's Al Gore. It was so loud, you do it. Yeah, I did it a bunch, I did it a bunch as Gore.
Starting point is 00:07:35 Lock box. Yeah. Oh shit, I can't remember when to see how that go. I'm gonna put it in a lot, It was just this guy, you know. Yeah, what did you call Gora, like a gay forest? God, I know, I can't do that anymore. But I do think now I think of a Tennessee gentleman from like some kind of, you know, 1930s movie.
Starting point is 00:08:01 And it has nothing to do with a feminine or not. It's just a Tennesseeancy. I do take umbridge, what, madam, with your nature, but it does come off like a just a tenancy gentleman. But it was very funny the way you would say, I put it in a lot box. Those are the kind of things that make me happy. I mean, you know, I had been doing gore in the village. I kept going up comedy seller trying to figure out what's the angle on this guy. And I couldn't find anything. Nobody. And we even did an update and no one even know who gore was. Yeah, I know until the two of the quites. And then of course, as we're coming up, the game time
Starting point is 00:08:42 on Saturday around four or five o'clock in the afternoon, time. Downey comes in with about a 70 page script, you know, like a really long, yeah, it's usually franken. Yeah, because that cold open was long, is that like a 10 minute cold open? Yeah. What was it about? It was that it was the first debate of the 2000 debates. Oh, it's just a long debate. Okay, okay, Bush That's where was that the one where we'll set for T. Jury or something. Yeah So down he comes in like about five o'clock with the script and He does what he he starts reading the thing to me he starts reading the thing to me. Okay. Now, I could not figure out, Gore, and what the hell to do with that guy, because he had
Starting point is 00:09:32 so many coaches, and he was one day, he's like this, and that's sort of a list. But another day, he was something else. You know, he was like, you know, let me tell you about a friend of mine. Her name is Adam Monson, she's 94, right? But I always make sure I clenched it, which is sort of a, sort of a, I didn't, I didn't miss a text, you know. Yeah, you changed your jaw to get the sound. Because when we got really excited, he had like a slight list, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:10 Mm-hmm. And so down he had that and all the notes, the thing is, when down he did the line reading, I understood what I'd been trying to come up with was a comic version of the sky. And down he came in with this sort of overbearing school teacher who meant well, but just tried too hard and it played, you know, but that's really. So he was sort of doing it a rough version just to read the lines and you sort of picked up and that and you were like, oh, that's actually, you stumbled into something there.
Starting point is 00:10:41 Yeah, that's right. That's right, because I'm not doing them in the village and nobody's laughing and nobody cares. Good sign. Seriously. And Downey comes in and he starts like, well, Jim, my play on this very different. And I was like, that's it. That's the fucking, that's the funny right there.
Starting point is 00:11:02 That's on Saturday afternoon. You've cracked it code Yeah, and that's just funny what you say and also just that voice is funny And I think that Downey's good at picking out He's really great at it, you know, and he was great like with Dan Rather and everything and And like we're going out to the floor Downey's behind me with the papers in his hand and he's going over again. Let me tell you about that syrupy overbearing school teacher.
Starting point is 00:11:29 He kept, I was like, Cameron, in the mid-gem, just keep going, just keep fucking going. Let me hear it because you've got it. And then you just walk out and do it. He's like loading you. Yeah. And he's like standing a few feet off Cameron. I'm looking at him and I'm like, booth, the booth, the booth, the booth. Yeah, I know. You don't want to lose it. So you just want to mumble it and keep saying it.
Starting point is 00:11:50 You know, and of course it was a great juxtaposition with the the character chair of W as the frat boy, loose from the hip guy and then painting gore as the school marm was comedic energy. It was funny. I mean, but yeah, I don't have these politicians feel about it because they do get put in a box pretty quickly. They do when we sat around. We do it. Yeah. Real fast. And that's how people think they talk now. And it's like when you were doing Bush senior, I mean, what the hell was that? And it was just like all of a sudden people were like, that's how W George senior talks. You know, really? It wasn't really that, yeah, it has to be slightly exaggerated somewhere to get a hook.
Starting point is 00:12:38 That's right. And that's when I learned from Dana was was caricature because I studied you and then we did that Carson Donahue thing. I love that. You're Donahue was supernatural. You are. You are must be some kind of, I mean, it was just such a funny rhythm and then Carson against that was just, you know, because that when you were listening to Dana or when
Starting point is 00:13:04 we were on the show. One of the times I hosted, you know, is that when you were in a dinner or were you on the show? One of the times I hosted, we got to do that. It was like, it wasn't like a debate. We were in like a sketch, like hanging out in a kitchen or something. So it was different, but. Yeah, like we were getting ready to go out for dinner. Yeah, it was such an odd juxtaposition,
Starting point is 00:13:20 but I love the Donnie Hue. Just the character of Donnie Hue. He goes right into it the heads bobbing your One thing that he does and you just build a little made it into this beautiful beautiful character Sure of you know, right that sincerity thing You're a blue color. Yeah It's so funny It's so funny. And he goes, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh, eh on SNL at some kind of lunchroom and he just did what you did. He just, you got to be feeling great about this thing and he did the exact same thing. So that was such a fun
Starting point is 00:14:10 sketch to do. I met him one night that's like. You're like, what? What? What? Now, the Clinton, tell us about your Clint, because you owned Clint after Phil, you did Clinton, and you extenuated it or made it your own. And just what was your hook with him kind of? Because I kind of do a modern Clinton, which I'll do in a minute, which I found in the spy.
Starting point is 00:14:44 I want to hear that. Well, but let's go over how you found that for, you know, I didn't really find it until I got a chance to meet him and be up close to him and feel him and see him do that thing, where he takes the room and gets inside your personal space. And, you know, he's like a foot taller than me. You know, he's got a tox on his chin. It's the president of the United States and he's always seducing, right? Oh, he's seducing everybody. It's just charm.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Charm. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, he was sort of like Like I said to him up. Okay, I'm just I'm not gonna try to act like I don't look stupid He said something to me like like this a paraphrase not my bunch of something like but I mean Darryl And he's looking he's so close to me.
Starting point is 00:15:45 He's in my personal space and he's like, I mean, I make the, so sincerely, I make the headlines. But you, you turn him in a gold. Yeah, I just, you know, I'm like, I'm like, I also, you know, I'm just like, do I? Should I have thought, are we gonna fuck? I also, you know, I'm just like, do I have it? Should I have thought, are we gonna fuck? Yeah. Like, I was so fucking right now, and I'm not gay and I don't care. Um, I don't care.
Starting point is 00:16:12 I don't think I have to be gay to enjoy this. You know, I went to my, I went to a buddy's party at his house. It's probably like 10 people and we go in the kitchen. He goes, there's food in the kitchen and we go in there and I was with a date and Aquilero was there. There's probably like 10 people, a couple of slub types. And then here's Clintons in there. And I heard he was there but I was like,
Starting point is 00:16:37 he's no one's here. And he's in there with a secret service guy and they're eating pizza and everyone just starts eating around the big island in the kitchen and then he goofs around and then he goes well now you're the funny guy why don't you tell us some stuff to me and I was you know of course I was stumbling and fumbling but the point was I see the a lure and I see how interesting he is and how riveting and you can't believe you're in this small space with him and then obviously the girls were all like freaking out. And afterwards she's like
Starting point is 00:17:09 can I just push you in this wood chipper on the way out and run back in because she was not not even faking it. She's like I can't even deal with this. I'm so into him. You know when you know when I had told my wife at the time, who doesn't really like men anyway, but oh, we'll dig into that on part two. But I said, you know, I think you guys got some sort of weird charisma. And she said, you know, that's bullshit. There's no such thing. And I was like, if seriously, if I invite you, if he invites me again, you me you come and meet him and so you know She came there and he saw her
Starting point is 00:17:52 Detected he had an undecided voter Right and wanted to wanted and wanted to really lower the boom on her and went over to her and just gave her the Fucking gave her the works. Oh yeah. There was a point in it where there was like a like a bright red patch appeared on her cheek. I was like bitch. You can always sell so flustered. Yeah. By him and so was I. And he's a good word. You know, you know, where you from? She's like, he loved he's like, oh, love he loved. No matter what you say. Yeah. And she's like, well, it has a depressed economy. And then he said something to it. It was something like, you know, there's
Starting point is 00:18:33 nothing wrong with key larga. They cannot be fixed by what is right. And he goes, also, I use my dick as a tongue depressor sometimes. If you want to jam it down your gallop. I did, I did later on. I thought in the last like five, six years. Okay. He kind of went real fast. Like, remember when Hillary fainted when she was running against Trump? And then he went on Charlie Ray. And I noticed that he did a lot of throw away kind of mumbling. I don't know if you did that hook, but it's kind of like, well, Hill's the painter. She paints a lot all the time, because she's a little itty bitty thing, and she's having
Starting point is 00:19:13 in the bun of the time, which I find adorable. There's a little humidity, and she starts going around like a whirling dervish, but he sort of has this kind of throw away casual thing that he does. I don't know what people were saying or what are they? Like kind of almost fast. I don't know lately, lately, but that was five years ago. I mean, I really wish I had picked up on that because that would just have been gorgeous for him to be saying directly and talk.
Starting point is 00:19:37 And then I said, let me take something about this. I don't know. You know, sort of like a madman, like a like a diary of the mouth die. Um, but, but you do his voice now is forced. Correct. you know, sort of like a madman, like a diary of the mouth die. But you do his voice now is forced. Correct. Someone horse. I never really did. When I did him on the variety show I did with Michael and Lucy K and Correll and
Starting point is 00:19:55 Colbert. I just did him in the first sketch and it bombed out the show, but I didn't do it at all. Like I had no, because Phil had done it, you owned it. And sometimes when someone owns it on Saturday Night Live, you're kind of like, eh, that's whoever has it on this and they're the, they're the president of comedy of that character. And then I was asked to do it and I just didn't have anything at all. It's terrible. I've only just casually observed him in the last few years and found him very interesting how he kind of his mouth is kind of open and there's sort of a
Starting point is 00:20:30 normal guy in in his 70s kind of you know that's a little rough and stuff. I just do it for my amusement I mean I don't it's not much to do with that. He's not he's not seen now or anything yet. He's still pretty sharp dude, right? Oh, yeah, he yeah. He's dead. He got thin. Yeah. Because of all the cardiovascular stuff, which I can speak to, but you know, where you just like, he went vegan or something after he's second, whatever operation. But anyway, so, um, yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:00 What's your favorite impression? Yeah, what are your favorite impression? What are your favorite ones? Well, first let me say, I want to talk about when Lauren asked me to do Regis Philbun after Dina had left her. I dated it together in Crumb. I thought you did it great, by the way. And I never had a problem with that. I don't, you know, Sheri O'Terry did it once, stunt casting in those days,
Starting point is 00:21:31 but before you did it, and I just thought, that's, I don't own the impression. I mean, people would say to me, well, I'm just doing George Bush my hook. You could do it. I mean, I don't own it. But so anyway, speak to that. But after you did it, I don't, I want to do it like that, you know.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Exactly. You don't want to copy the hooks of somebody you want to discover them on your own. And I did it, must have done it 10 times on the show. Yeah. And like if I were, you know, if I were doing it in a club and I did like an act like a my, my version, they wouldn't laugh at it. And I never even tried after you did it, you know, I never even tried it on stage. With Regis, you know, I said, the Laura's like, Dana took everything.
Starting point is 00:22:11 I can't be done better than that. He's like, well, we need it. I'm like, Just do it like, however. So what I decided to do was close off his nasal passages, you know? Yeah. That's what I decided to do. And it made the sound slightly different.
Starting point is 00:22:28 And this way I wasn't doing you. Do you know what I mean? No, I know. And that's part of his frequency, I would say, a little bit nasal. You're like, well, no. You join it, Joy and I would add it to you one. And it had a cave that was a thousand years old. It was a thousand.
Starting point is 00:22:44 I did a sign off the other day with William Shattner and just went into Regis in a way of just being able to visit with him again. Awe to God, it starts with Awe to God, you know, would it chop me this guy down? But let me tell you, he's a human dick recording. He could do anybody. Awe to God, everybody loves it. He did built it. You're pretty sick.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And you're just like the charm of Regis, when he would sign off with a guest, just that specific thing was so fun to inhabit. Yeah, I mean, you'd be the guest on the show like going, or he'll say something like, and someone, someone, someone, someone, someone, so, then he'll pause and then he'll go, but that's terrific. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:23:25 What did he lose his place? He do. He do his story. There I was with Brocott, dead tennis and we had a terrible table. Then he'd take a sip of coffee, but that's too much anyway. That's what happens when you do it. These things. Let me tell you, you know, the toast to the town, kid.
Starting point is 00:23:42 But yeah, that was he's a fun guy. I mean, do you ever just like? Because I'll do it sometimes with Paul McCartney or something. I'll just find myself kind of mumbling if I'm alone Just sort of doing it just to be in that attitude with McCartney. You actually do Paul McCartney and I swear to God It's not the stuff an easy thing to do You know, I think Okay of something easy is thing to do. You know, I like to hear that. Okay. Well, everyone thinks they can do the liver pooling and accent.
Starting point is 00:24:09 It's not that damn easy. It, for me, the hook into it is making up words that are liver puddley and colloquialisms, but are sort of made up. Boopily, boop. And that, you know, we're sitting here, you know, we're telling him, we're doing the talky talk, you know, we're zooming, we're zooming in, you know, and we can't hear each other so good, we get wobbly, we get wobbly.
Starting point is 00:24:33 And just that's the fun of it is repeating those little phrases. And I like being Paul McCartney. I do a thing about just if the news is bad, just filter it through his attitude. We had a pandemic, you know, a little virus came in and we all sat inside at a cup of tea. What did we do? I said, put a mask on with Robert Banker, you know. So I just a bank. Yeah, you make them up. You just, you just add an E in a R, you rob a banker and he's like, you know, hold up, hold up. So I love just visiting that. I mean, do you find yourself coming on to any voice sometimes
Starting point is 00:25:10 just to deal with stress in a way or just, you know, or just makes you feel good to be that character? Yeah, there was a guy that I knew that was supposedly bobbed up that when I used to hang out of a Kales of 46 and 8. That was like the most call of guy and he probably had a third grade education, but he was, they said he was a gangster and he talked like a gangster and he said funny, charming, super smart things with that grammar, you know? Like, what is he said to me is like, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:25:48 he's like, Darryl, you know, you know what happens if you hit it, that head would land, right? He had a guy in here with a lad, you know, opposite that, you go to the penitentiary, you understand? Yeah, I understand, the penitentiary. Because there was a guy in my house that had it salted me. He was a house guest of mine. So I'm drinking. I'm like, I felt like it was a guy that had with a lamp. And it's like, and tomorrow morning on the bus to Rikers Island. Right? Yeah. But listen to this thing, and he said to me, because I'm
Starting point is 00:26:23 the other thing about it is you know you get your bun on you're the guy with a lamp you know and you're you're alter him Darryl you alter most humans cannot alter another alter see that's the hook. I'm like what is alter like what is that brain? Yeah yeah he, yeah, yeah, he was like, make him different or something, right? Yeah, it was like he was saying, well, I mean, you two, the guy up, you know, he wakes up in the headache or whatever. When you alter another, you know,
Starting point is 00:26:55 he wakes up with a speech impediment, you understand? You understand? And he don't walk right no more, you know, he don't laugh all the way no more. You know, he got him walking tub now. That kind of thing. Walk in tub now. That's, I love that.
Starting point is 00:27:13 That, I really relate to that because when you go in a character like that, you just don't feel afraid. You're like a guy, you know, we want a dance, we can dance. I don't like the dance, but I'll dance with you. You want a dance. I like the tough guy dance, but I'll dance with you. You wanna dance. I like the tough guy that's trying to keep it cool like that, like. The tough guy, and I love it when they add,
Starting point is 00:27:30 they add no at the end of a sentence. So I have a friend like that, Gary Prince, he lives in Florida from Brooklyn, and you're eating and stuff, he goes, this is good pasta, no. He says no at the end, I love that. Good pasta, no. Yeah, that's, that's, but it makes you brave. If you, I always that. Good pasta, no? Yeah, that's best.
Starting point is 00:27:45 But it makes you brave. I always thought when I was a kid growing in California that New York or the East Coast could beat us up. Like if there was just, they came at us. They're just so tough and you know, what the fuck are you gonna do? You know, I got these drivers like, you know,
Starting point is 00:27:59 I'm always faithful to my wife. You know, I got a little couple things on the side, but I'm monogamous. You know, every two times a month, I met this little gal, but I'm monogamous. I mean, there's a direct quote, so you go, who are these guys? I mean, no one in the soprano is so brilliant, you know?
Starting point is 00:28:15 Did you ever do try to do Tony soprano? I didn't, but he's a... I breathe, you know, there was a time when I did, I was doing a sketch with Molly and she was doing the 50 year old dancer. I had a decent subtony, soprano and it's very high isn't it? The cue cards were so different from dress. Like I hadn't actually seen these words before. Oh, I mean, I had like, you know, pancake in my mouth and I panicked and I went into like a brand of thing. I can relate to that. I couldn't think of anything else.
Starting point is 00:28:52 I lost the impression. I actually had dinner with him one night with some restaurant called the five towns. He was working. He was supposed to going to play like a hitman, like a gay hitman. We had the same acting teachers, so they acted and put us together and we were there and I was drinking and the only thing I remember him was asking me if I was okay. And I said, what I think I'm drinking too many martinis and he leans into me and he says, y lees en a mí, y dice, ¡Gigia, fucka, Christ! ¡Gigia, fucka, Christ! Y no es como...
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Starting point is 00:30:36 I always wanted to do John Malkovich, but I always go to Travolta. That's kind of a casual goal of mine is to do a perfect John Malkovich, but with Shattner, I didn't, but you did him right on the show, didn't you? Yeah, but, but not well. I mean, I was, you know, Higgins helped me out a lot with it.
Starting point is 00:30:54 I was stuck on an impression. I was stuck in Pollock's impression and, and, and it's like doing Nicholson, you know, it, I didn't want to do it after I'd seen so many people do it so well. Yeah. And Pollock was the one you both thought was a good one, right? Paul, I thought was the king. He was crazy with it. He had a physicality with the elbow and the head. Kevin will wind down on things so hard and there's so much nuance.
Starting point is 00:31:21 I mean, his walkin' is the same kind of thing. There's several guys who can do a brilliant walkin', but his... There was a guy back then that I loved and I followed pretty closely named Joe Alaskia. You know what? Joe Alaskia.
Starting point is 00:31:33 Yeah. He ended up doing you a semini saren for Warner Brothers. He did. But he had a really, really nice shatter. And I was afraid that when I was doing it, I really exquisite in shatter. Exquisite. I mean, so you don't like, you can tension,
Starting point is 00:31:51 you don't wanna be influenced by other impressions. You'd rather discover it on your own, right? Walk and you can do it home now. Walk and can anybody can do now? I think, I don't know who started walking out of all you guys, but as being a casual observer, it's turned into like a lorn where you can just take it home and to go and everyone at home can do it.
Starting point is 00:32:11 But it's always a version of whoever started it. You know, I don't know. I don't know who do you remember it was one of the first walkings. I don't really know. I think that because of SNL, when you have a personal story that you're telling, like when walk Walker said,
Starting point is 00:32:25 best suits, so funny and best as well, then you don't even really care if it's accurate. You're just a character in your story, but as far as doing the clubs, he went through his peak. I mean, everyone's doing Nicholson, you know? And then for a while, everyone's doing Walker. I don't know what it is now, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:43 as far as the younger movie stars. I mean, I've been doing Brad Pitt from I just do once upon a time in Hollywood, which I saw the movie 11 times because I just got possessed by it. Really? Yeah. I like to hear about that. Um, I just saw it the first time and then I just thought, I was okay. And then I saw it again. Then I saw it with my brother. And then I saw it with my wife. Then I showed it to relatives,
Starting point is 00:33:05 then I saw it down here, and let's face it, man, oh my god, damn, has been. What that guy say to you, don't cry in front of the Mexicans. Look, I like being your gopher, and I like how sit. But let's face it, I haven't worked as a stunt man quite some time, and I don't think there's, I think there's a lot of things worse than going making eye-telling movies.
Starting point is 00:33:26 Yeah, I don't want to be a goddamn eye-telling movie. How many of you seeing? One, two, I just, I love the movie so much. Cool. You know, I mean, I love that movie so much that. That's cool, that's good. I even, yeah, it's wonderful. I'll do more, I've memorized the movie, basically.
Starting point is 00:33:43 I ended up going to Cello Drive and everything. Drive and everything you have the Sharon Tane House. Oh, you got possessed by the movie too. Yeah, 1000%. By the way, Kevin Pollock has seen it 12 or 13 times. How do you know that I had dinner with them and asked them? How their old buddies from San Francisco. I Pollock when I saw him do walk and I'm like, all right, no, I ain't doing that. It's over. Well, it's locked. It really reminds me about when I was a kid, I was 21, 22 and just moved to New York. Through a friend of a friend, we got tickets to the public theater to see Merrill Streep in a play called Taken and Marriage.
Starting point is 00:34:23 She doesn't look. In the play. You know, we were in the play called taking in marriage and she doesn't play She you know, we were in the second row at the public theater in the play She played this woman from Connecticut Who had a cold and had to cry? Okay, that was her that was her check her thing for the night and She did all that and I tell you when it was over is like, you know, I said to my friend I was like, I don't know what the fuck we're doing, but we ain't doing that. We're not doing that.
Starting point is 00:34:48 What she's doing up there. Yeah, it's different. It's a different profession. We're coming from some other place and their brain. You know, we're taking our acting class, we're studying acting and we're doing death of the salesman and blah, blah, blah. And then I saw she was not. That's great.
Starting point is 00:35:06 Yeah, I'm like, I don't know what the fuck we're doing, brother. We ain't doing that. Boy, was that magnificent. But when he did the walk and I backed off, I'm like yours, yours. Do you see some people do it? And you go, not like those guys that are great, but you see casual people do it on some show. And you go, or I stand up and you go not like those guys that are great, but you see casual people do it on some show and you go, or a stand up and you go, they're close, but it's not there.
Starting point is 00:35:30 You could, they could do way better. If, you know, there's also the comedy frequency of it. If somebody, maybe not the perfect, but they have a funny take on it. Yeah. You know, that's the hard part is to put in your act and make a scenario, Darryl, your act is a lot of these impressions, right? So do you have to figure out ways to put it in there? I I couldn't I wouldn't put a walkin' in and I wouldn't put it ever put a nickel
Starting point is 00:35:55 sin in and I would never put a shatter in because I mean my you know, after Alaska in Pollock, I mean, what the fuck am I gonna do with that? I mean, it was you know, it was hard enough doing reges in my act after Dana had you know knocked the ball, you know out of the stadium so many times and people loved it. I don't know. Closing us. But you won't you won't you're you're up in the the Hall of Fame of impressionists in the last 50 years in America all the way from Frank Gorshwin and the Canadian Rich Little. Gorshwin.
Starting point is 00:36:27 And then, and then, and then, through some of Dan Acroids impressions, Eddie Murphy, who does like, he's like, does like five supernatural impressions. I don't know if he cares. Eddie, his, some of his stuff is amazing, but he doesn't, you know, I don't think he tries to learn. It does a lot of them, but they're so amazing. The ones that he does, his Cosby and his, you know, it's so in the pocket. Mr. T. Cosby. Yeah. I mean, I just glee-son. Yeah. Wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:11 Yeah, wow. Yeah. Yeah, he was like my major, you know, like my hero, because the first guy I ever saw that was consistently funny with his impressions. And, you know, I was so well. He was a, he was, there's no one like him. You know, we talk about the history of Sarah Knight Live and he was 19 or 20 and he just exploded off the screen. You know, on SNL, I was still busing tables, so I don't know how people get that confidence at that young age. We've kind of touched on that, but it's amazing to me. But also the vocal dexterity is Michael Jackson who's also spot on again, not that easy to do.
Starting point is 00:37:40 And singing at Stevie Wonder, singing beautifully. Oh my God. Yeah. I can sing too, which is hard to do. If you can sing and add that level in, do you ever do a singing impression, Darryl? I don't know if I have really. It's not one of my gifts singing.
Starting point is 00:37:57 You know, there was a time in my life when I experimented briefly with doing Anthony Newley this. That's it. Anthony Newley this. Anthony Newley. Wow. The funny man. Can't whatever is that giant eyebrows. The seven.
Starting point is 00:38:12 The sun rise. Yeah. Sprinkle is. Yeah. Well, that was a very dramatic voice. I don't know if they could. Spade is yummy. No, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:38:24 All my camera. Spade is yawning through open space. No, I didn't. All line camera. Yeah. Spade owned Tom Petty. And he had, he would open for me, had a hat. He didn't have any props, but he had a Tom Petty hat. Like, what did you put on mutton chops? I put carpet, yeah.
Starting point is 00:38:38 And then I put my tongue up in the front part of my mustache area, like underneath underneath and it made my face pull down It was very unattractive at a very rude one and then when I met Tom Petty I thought he'd be so excited about it because Michael J. Fox or Tom Petty or people I do or be assigned on the show You're usually a fan But impressions are so exaggerated. They're not always flattering and I forget that and I forget they might not be psyched about it. And Tom Petty was pretty cool and I remember
Starting point is 00:39:12 there's an SNL book, I went over to Letterman to have him sign it. And he was very cool but I thought, fuck and then I over the years you know, I realized, God, this is kind of a dumb thing I do. I used to close the impression, Darryl, of Petty, and I didn't really have impressions, so it was just, I would sing like him,
Starting point is 00:39:34 and just play like the ending, and it tied in like a call back to, so it was a big, really, wham bam ending, and then Dennis Miller, we did a gig, and I walk out front the next day, and he goes, and I'm holding the hat and then Dennis Miller, we did a gig and I walk out front the next day and he goes, and I'm holding the hat and he goes, you sleep with that thing, Spate? And I go and he goes,
Starting point is 00:39:51 time to lose the props, guy, no props. And I go, that's not really props. I just have this and a little xylophone for my jeopardy bit, he goes, those are props. If Dennis was here now and say, spudily, spudily in the Ham Cat, okay? Yeah, Spudley in on the pad. We gotta get you in the Ham Cat.
Starting point is 00:40:12 Sharon, you know, Coppy. Yes, we do. I ran out of speed. Go ahead. The Ham Cat, Ham Cat. Yeah, Ham Cat. Which, I can't do Dennis.
Starting point is 00:40:26 You don't do Dennis? He was just, he was on the show. We just did him an update, you know. Did you do that with Hanks? I did it once. I did it with Hanks. Hanks did it, Dennis did it. We all three in a row did it.
Starting point is 00:40:42 If I'm in a role with Dennis, I do, I literally, my vocabulary gets better. I literally am able sometimes, because he's so fast. And when you talk to him just to, even today, he'll drop so many references. I'm on you, yeah. Weird, funny things.
Starting point is 00:41:00 You go, where's his coming from? He's like two steps ahead of you. I mean, the guy is just a giant brain. I have an impression question for both of you. Impression question, that's our next podcast. Impression question. So we've talked to Shatner recently, and he's I guess 90 now, Dana,
Starting point is 00:41:22 knowing him growing up and you did your young impression, is it that different now? Is the voice, the voice is pretty, you said at the end, your voice is really strong. And that was one thing that is a trick that we're like, that's why you don't think he's old. He's not like, hello? Like 90, you'd think he'd be feeble,
Starting point is 00:41:40 but he's like, hey guys, good talk, and I'm like, holy fuck, you're right, that was a strong voice. And is he that much different now? Or is it still about the same type of moves he has? Yeah, I mean, you know, when it's irresistible to not do stuff that other people have done, like that Kevin Pollock thing you're talking about again.
Starting point is 00:42:05 Well, I mean, like, I don't do shattering about him. He's like, there's a lot of the face to it. Yes. You know, and that is where we all grew up with, I mean, initially it was him as Captain Kirk. And he said he developed all that one if he couldn't remember the lines he'd he'd cap a pause. I can't believe what everybody's doing. And it was intentional. That's really good. I can't believe what he's saying, you know.
Starting point is 00:42:35 And he did it and he was mesmerizing with those rhythms. So we, I don't think in real life, he talked like that. That was Captain Kirk and that's where we all took it from. I mean, I didn't watch Boston Legal that much. He played Denny Crane and the NOTS, but I don't think he did that. Scotty, any power, no need at all. And I think it was a brilliant creation of his. You couldn't take your eyes off him and spoke.
Starting point is 00:43:02 But yeah. But people always say, you know Kevin Pollock sounded more like Shatter than Shatter. You know, from that from that era. Yeah, it's funny. Yeah, I got to get that. It's impossible.
Starting point is 00:43:14 Impossible. No, what you all doing. Yeah. Got no other. So I mean, it would have been fun to do it. I thought it got later with both of that. What? Now it gets a dirigious, yeah, to do it. I thought it got laid and we both had it up. What? Now it gets into religious, yeah, to the stage.
Starting point is 00:43:27 I actually, when I tried to learn Trump because when he popped out, I thought of religious. The most impression. And I added Brando in a weird way. I don't really do Brando, but religious is here. And then you walk him over to Brando and you thought of any, and then you got a little bit. But. I mean, you know, Trump went through various incarnations You walk him over a brand now and you're sort of in here and then you got a little bit of it.
Starting point is 00:43:45 But I mean, you know, Trump went through various incarnations. In the beginning, he had a stronger, more classic voice. But then when he became president, he started doing all these weird, word salads, you know, weird ticks and rhythms, like crazy stuff. You know, like, you know, I, I studied them the year that I did them. I studied them and I found that he was inspiring. They're really getting people to feel things. But if you look at the transcript, you can't see it.
Starting point is 00:44:17 It doesn't make any, it's, it's like what would be in a good example? Like dogs, not even people like dogs. I like dogs, cats are not nice. You know? Yeah. Yeah. I know. I mean, was he, did you watch celebrity print, if I assume, did a lot of people, when he did celebrity apprentice, I didn't watch it that much, but I don't remember him doing all those many people
Starting point is 00:44:45 because he, he will repeat one phrase like 10 times in 30 seconds. We're doing a lot of things. We're doing good things. Good things. Many people are saying many good things. Did he do that during the celebrity apprentice? No, he never did it. He never did it until he stood in front of a crowd of 30,000 people. And then all this. He it was came out too. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like I did a show once, you know, on front of 10,000 people in Boston. I was aware that here, 10,000 people responded to me, was making me larger, faster, different, just different. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:21 So I'm not even know it right away. You're like, you're just sort of matching their energy and you're like, oh, shit, I'm getting off my game here. Yeah, so I'm not even know it right away. You're like, you're just sort of matching their energy and you're like, oh shit, I'm getting off my game here. Yeah, and it, well, I mean, this was the only time I've ever, I ever had done that or have done that. And all of a sudden, I was aware that I was moving differently. My voice was crisper. My segues were short.
Starting point is 00:45:40 Yeah, that's interesting. I was becoming a different comic. That's cool. And I do think if you don't feel like, if the crowd is so. I was becoming a different comic up there. That's cool. And I do think if you don't feel like, if the crowd is so big, it is a little bit like a stand up trick to repeat your premise over and over again, you know? We're gonna win, we're gonna win,
Starting point is 00:45:55 we're gonna win so much, Janaka, you're gonna say, we don't wanna win so much, we're gonna win, we're winning. And you can hardly exaggerate it. You're gonna say, we't want to win so much. Yeah, that's what he said. Yeah, as a quote.
Starting point is 00:46:08 You know, he had a meme on mind that came directly from Huey P. Long, the former colorful governor of Louisiana and Huey P. Long used to say, it's not me thereafter, it's you. I'm just in the way. And that's what people, his base, walk the way, feeling every time like, yeah, there are people after my way of life. Yeah, we did get fucked.
Starting point is 00:46:33 And on some level, a lot of them did, you know, with that real estate scam and all of that. But Trump has, my impression of him when I was around him was that he could see right through me, like a street, like a street guy a street guy, like a hustler, you know. Definitely, I had a Russian hygienist, this will make sense in a second. She said, Putin, Putin is trained, he's KGB, he can dissect anyone psychologically, he'll get the power.
Starting point is 00:47:00 But I just wonder, he goes up against this other kind of altered sort of quirky guy. And you always wonder the relationship between Trump and these, you know, Yee Putin, because Putin probably like, how do I figure this guy out? What am I supposed to say to him? Because Trump was so, you're so beautiful. And I was thought he was like a mob boss. They always go, oh, he kisses, he loves,
Starting point is 00:47:25 he kisses us, dictators. I thought it was a total manipulation. We had a beautiful, let a beautiful friendship. I love him. And then if you look at his policies, he was sticking him in the back. That's a mob boss thing, right? I love it.
Starting point is 00:47:36 Who loves shit? And then he could do a hit on him. What do you think? What do you think? I don't know. I thought he treated Putin pretty good, didn't he? Well, he armed the Ukrainians, which made Putin crazy. He did everything he could to stop the second
Starting point is 00:47:48 Nord Stream pipeline. I mean, he had it at the bottom of the Black Sea, which was the second natural gas pipeline, you know. And then he bombed the shit out of the Syria and stuff. I mean, it wasn't, and then there were the diplomats. And, but it was subtle things, but that was juxtaposed to we love, which was really close. So what do you both think by the time Alec was doing Trump, he sort of had, and he's not
Starting point is 00:48:13 a Impressionist, but he sort of had to do just a very makeup exaggerated version at that point. That wasn't like exactly a great Trump, but it was at least, it got sort of character. Yeah, it was effective. It was supposed to be. I always say that, you know, my impressions are impressions the way people do impressions. My impressions are SNL impressions. How to do it there when this stuff isn't written till the last second. Yeah, it's very hard.
Starting point is 00:48:43 And I finally settled on it. I did this with, you know, there were a number of repressions that I was, I was funny with, that weren't vocally, you know, what I was, was as custom doing, but, you know, with him. I mean, he was killing.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Okay, what else do you have to say? And, you know, Alec, Alec is a hulking, Alec is kind of a strong, like, yeah, I was a really strong guy. Alec is kind of a strong guy. Yeah, he's a really strong guy. And Trump is a big, strong guy. And so there was a match there in a way
Starting point is 00:49:13 and it was very effective. It really worked. And Alec Baldwin just knows how to land a laugh in that studio on every, it was he got it down to where he could get it. Plus, they're proud as so ready to pounce on Trump. So he could give a joke. It's a six out of 10. They'll give it a nine. Yeah. I mean, the thing is that he was killing. And after that, I don't know what else to
Starting point is 00:49:36 say. Yeah. You know, the whole point is, you know, I, you know, Lauren had said, you know, it's okay to back off from an impression if that makes it funny. It's okay to care. It's true. I even have, you know, like those, those first field drawings where you did all those exaggerations. Yeah. You know, that looked more like Kate Huttburn than Kate Huttburn.
Starting point is 00:49:58 And so I model, I tried to model myself after that, after that, but, you know, people would interview me about, about Alec and I, that the guy's killing. But, you know, people would interview me about Alec and I, the guy's killing. I don't know what, what else you want. And also, you know, whatever my crazy is, it doesn't extend to not wanting other people to score. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I don't own that character.
Starting point is 00:50:21 It's not mine. I play the Yankee Stadium. I don't own a third base. You know what I mean? And I don't. It would be like being a hitter in the big leagues. And you don't want the other hitters to, you expect the other hitters to not do well. Why didn't you think of it that way? Because I guess you would done it. Yeah, I get it. But uh, well, we're a part of a fraternity. So it's, it's not glamorous. I mean, we know that Alex, they're getting the wig on.
Starting point is 00:50:45 He's got gluey sweating, you know, he's trying to get a drink of water. It'll be in the cards. It's just, you know, emotional combat being on that show. I've been in the studio when they're getting ready for the cold opening. I was doing a little guest spot, you know, and it's like nerve-wracking. You see him getting ready. This is the start of the show. Hopefully God willing, this works. And then everything goes decadent. And I like his accent right before. Everyone's like, so you just have props for anyone who does that.
Starting point is 00:51:12 It's not easy. You can do it not show. And then from the floor, Chris is going, 30 seconds. Yeah. And you're like, 5 seconds. 5 seconds. Five seconds. Five seconds. Five seconds. So one thing that I love that you did,
Starting point is 00:51:32 I wanted to get to and just your pick your brain on it. When you did Sean Connery, I felt like that was an example. It's a great one. The way you used it in that Jeopardy show was so powerful. Like you landed, the way it was written, the way you did him, so serious. And I don't know, that was like a magic sketch.
Starting point is 00:51:56 When I first was learning the impression, it was the same thing with that couple. I was learning these impressions, and I was probably nailing, coming close to nailing it vocally, but it wasn't funny, you know. So I always thought of you and the stuff you've done and and I tried to do him in a funny way. And it wasn't as accurate as it had been vocally when I was learning it in my office, but it was funny. I was getting my laughs. Your whole physical attitude and everything about you was so serious and so, so masculine
Starting point is 00:52:32 that it just in this silly show, but it really, yeah. Yeah. It was just one of those. I mean, you know, Lorne being around there is kind of like, you know, Darrell, it's a funny show. Is it funny? Are you being funny? Are you getting the last? Like the first time I did Ted Carapule, I did think you were a singer where, you know, he's like, drenching out of shape. He liked
Starting point is 00:52:58 Dana. I never did a couple very good. Like that, the, the, the tenor that you have is perfect. The only thing I did was from the show. I'm Ted Coppel and this is Nightline. I just took a long pause. So yeah, it's trickery. You know, what do they say in acting class? You're printing Ted Coppel. Now you can do the material. You know what I mean? It doesn't have like, thank God, I wasn't vocally, vocally accurate every time, but with Connery, it was like a whole fucking, you know, like, you didn't say that lush light, you know.
Starting point is 00:53:36 When I was pumping Mughal, Guaid Pan, all over your commercials. It was a camera that just started. It was so brilliant. Yeah, I was doing, I was being like Dana, I exaggerated her and it killed it killed as opposed to when I just, you know, did it vocally super and then when they lay, just laid there. It's true.
Starting point is 00:53:59 I don't think people understand the pressure of doing stuff like that because the whole it's only like the whole planet is watching right yeah but it's just trump tweeted about me a couple of times or oh I'm like and I'm thinking to myself black Putin's reading this yeah yeah how crazy you're getting ready to go on TV and oh yeah they're watching in Moscow Yeah, how crazy. You're getting ready to go on TV and oh yeah, they're watching in Moscow. They're aware. They're watching in Moscow tonight.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Yeah. If you think about it too much, you'll just start crying. I tried to just make that audience right in front of me laugh, but yeah, terrifying. Yeah, I mean, I was doing a thing one time, I was doing a Rumsfeld bed and I look up and A-Rod is standing there
Starting point is 00:54:47 and Paul McCartney and I just like pants. I was like, what in the fucking, what are you doing in this room? You know, and they have a lot to do. Why am I in a room with an original beetle? I mean, I'm doing a little bit of two Beatles line. I mean, shit. That's kind of why everyone, I guess, is comfortable out there. And I'm not sure I ever was comfortable. I was always, I went home most of the time thinking I'd disgraced myself, you know?
Starting point is 00:55:17 Even into after 10 years still, you didn't. Absolutely. And then it got really, you know, difficult for me in the end because you know, when Obama came in, I didn't play anyone in his administration and the writing was sort of on the wall. Your time's up, bro. But you know, it lasted an agonizing two more years. And I've always told people it's harder to get offter in that land than it is to get on set. Well, it's hard to go, where do I go? Like everyone leaves and goes, I gotta go somewhere because I gotta make some money and I gotta, nothing beats a steady check.
Starting point is 00:55:57 And whenever you, people forget like in SAG or you stop a TV show or a movie, and it goes from good money to zero, there's no middle. It's just zero and you go fuck I get a couple residuals here and there but that's not doing it and it's just high pressure and It's always hard to just jump and go I got to go and then you're like why and then after a week You're like I could still do it. I mean I still know how to do it But you probably do feel it's time. I went I, I felt it was time and it was a little late. I think that you created this great character that is traveled on situation comedies and stuff.
Starting point is 00:56:32 For people like Darryl and I, there's really no place to do what we do. I mean, there's only one live sketch show from New York where you do impressions and characters. There's nothing quite like it. So I could see why it's, you know, it's hard to let it go. It's strange to come back and, you know, you always have some part of your brain like, God, why couldn't I've done this a long time? But, you know, Carol Burnett did nine years, you know, I mean, there were these variety shows just on around. I tried it in prime time. I think Martin short did There was there was in living color which which is own different style But generally speaking to do sketch comedy. It's just SNL. They have their own lane really
Starting point is 00:57:15 So let's do it the best this costumes are great when it works it It's it's magic. It's alive. It's live and they have Kim Kardashian or Wayne Gretzky on there It's it's very it's it It's live. And they have Kim Kardashian or Wayne Gretzky on there. It's it's very it's it's got so many things about me that address rehearsal and tech rehearsal with your sane life in New York. You never say it's life in New York. It's Saturday night. You always say live from New York kids govily. Well, I always hope I'm peaking on air. You know, I was hope that when I was on the air show the The report card part of my brain is going. This is the best I've done it this week
Starting point is 00:57:51 You hate to peek at dress. We've talked about that, but you know, we didn't talk about it a lot and you said It's sort of like get your bearings know where your mark is get the voice voice right, get familiar with the language, get some laughs. And but you said something, bizarre to me is that save something for air. It's hard to do. Yeah. It did make it. It's very difficult.
Starting point is 00:58:15 Well, you want to get on and you know you go, oh, I saved too much because the sketch got cut. Well, you got, you have to know if you're in the cold opening, you're probably going to go on, you know, but yeah you're in the cold opening, you're probably going to go on. But yeah, it's a real mental thing, SNL, and to try to turn the tables of confidence where you're like, I can't wait to show them what I'm going to do. Same thing with stand-up. We all do stand-up.
Starting point is 00:58:39 And some nights you're just in such command and control. You're just in such command and control. You're just like, you're just dominating, you know? And then some nights it's just, you just feel awkward and it's hard when you're on live TV. Nothing worse than doing air and about 20 seconds in the air. You're like, they're not as good of a crowd. There's nothing quite like going,
Starting point is 00:58:59 so I've done this before and it's killed before and I don't know what's wrong with you This killed on letterman, but it's not killing it yet. Yeah, yeah, so it reverses the yeah, right You've never been in front of a crowd and it's like you're two or three minutes in and you're going away. They don't get me Yeah, they're not buying it They don't get I just threw my my high hard when I threw my fastball like three fastballs Yeah, you know, it's just not happening tonight. I just try to break it down then just start doing crowd work or something just Mayday may day shake it up. Yeah, I always think if you're not buying the first three jokes
Starting point is 00:59:39 You're not gonna like the last three. They're all about the same like if you don't think I'm funny It's all about the same. Like if you don't think I'm funny, it's all about like this. I just gave you my best shit right there and you just sat there like a pool of carp. You know, like, oh, gross. Why do we choose this life pass? We're in a crazy, we're crazy people. Well, there are, we're nutty theater folk.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Anything else for Daryl Dana? What do you think? I've just enjoyed this so much. I it we're loving this and I say this every time I just like hanging out with people that I've had interactions with and Especially had touchdowns with with Sarah and I live so it's just so much fun to do this and I Will come on your post guess what next time you ask me. Oh, I'm asking you both right now. I will whenever you just let me know. It's really difficult for a while we were doing well.
Starting point is 01:00:33 We had like, we had Jane Fonda. We had some pretty cool people on it. We did a decent job, but Jesus, once I don't work that much, but my partner at Chris Millhouse works a lot. He produces, so it's hard to get it together sometimes. It is. The key to podcasting is to make it as easy as possible. So you can do what you guys are doing.
Starting point is 01:00:59 And of course, that would give us a huge boom. And any form of servitude I could do for either one of you. Let me know because I got to set up here. I'll get rid of this buzz, but yeah, let me know. I'm happy to come on and I'm going to have someone transcribe this and then we'll read it like a script. We'll just read what we just did. But it's really well.
Starting point is 01:01:22 Let's just do this. I think that's what we just did. But it's really well. Let's just do this. I think that's what we should do. How do I say thanks? You don't have to say thanks. You just came on our podcast. Yeah, that's great. I know, but it was a really good experience. And it felt real, it just feels good to talk about comedy.
Starting point is 01:01:43 And you're both funny as fuck. Last time we saw Spade was at comedy store and fucking crashed. Yeah, I love it, thank you. Spade knows how to do stand up extremely well. He is extremely good at stand up. Yes. Well, I didn't do many impressions on the show
Starting point is 01:01:59 and it's sort of fun for me to, because there's different mechanisms, there's different reasons people on the show, but it's so fun. I'm always so jealous when I see good impressions. It's so fun to watch. And just even watching you guys do it this whole talk is hilarious.
Starting point is 01:02:15 It's great. I just tell people to throw their voice. Like I enjoy Daryl's New York guy as much as any impression. And sometimes they go, well, I'm doing impression of my brother Brad.. He's called Garth But also for young comedians like I'll just throw your voice Just start talking like this or whatever just just get it out if you want to do comedy that way You know, I mean some of my favorite voices are are not
Starting point is 01:02:40 Famous people. I mean, yeah, you know all the time I lived in New Orleans and people that I've met there, you know, When we do my podcast or you guys come on I this people I want to do for you that I knew a new one so we're out of this Oh, yeah, good gosh. Well, this has been such a good time. I enjoyed it so much No, I can go and clean now. This is a fun little thing. We talked all about process and things like that and how we deal with nerves on Saturday night love. It's a good show and all like that. So anyway, so much fun, Darryl, really, really interesting.
Starting point is 01:03:14 Darryl, thank you guys. All right, just reach out to me. We'll talk soon. Okay, sounds good. Take care guys. Next week's guest will be Lorraine Newman. Next week's guest will be Lorraine Newman. Flying the Wall has been a presentation of Cadence 13. Please listen, then rate, review, and follow all episodes.
Starting point is 01:03:35 Executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Chris Corquan of Cadence 13 and Charlie Feinand of Brillstein Entertainment, production and engineering led by Greg Holtzmann, Richard Cook, Serena Regan, and Chris Basel of Cadence 13.

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