Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Heidi Gardner

Episode Date: June 29, 2022

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We don't have that many that are on right now, so that's great to talk to her. And I want to tell Dana before we start that I did cheat on us and went and did another podcast just because the man the myth Mike Tyson asked me to come over there. Oh hot box and hot box and by the way Dana I swear to God I didn't get hot box and was hot box and where you get stone and I didn't even get anything to with boxing. Well I thought I was like hot box like this is really really hot box and I thought it was like, this is really, you really hot boxing. I thought it was just about really being a great fighter. No, we missed all of it.

So it's all about marijuana. It's all like ear in a box slowly dying while he smokes tons of wheat. And then he asks you questions. So it's pretty fun. I'm not a prude, but my weed days are sort of behind me, but I talk a big game. But it's optional.

He gives you, they go, Mike, give me your, personally, it comes in in like dolphin shorts and no shoes. Of course. He's a champ. He's such a fucking stud. Come on, he's a champ. The champ is here, solving flesh. Him was just champ.

He's here, little Biden's. You know what? He came from Biden. He came from Biden. Biden was from Biden. He came from Biden. He was on Kimmel, and he was doing a bit, and he goes, the traffic's gonna be snarled. So he came over. He was a little late, and then they go, and there's, you know, 45 people there, you know. Barefoot with Dolphin shorts.

Yeah. Little or nothing. Dolphin shorts are the kind of computers. These weren't orange, but they were white. Anyway, he has great legs. Don't think I didn't notice. And he comes in. All the power comes in the legs, Greg.

And I didn't even tell him how I got, not beta. I did talk about my one fight in six grade. But anyway, he has sort of another friend of his from the San Diego Chargers, who's, I think his name Sebastian, is a great guy. And they would pepper me with questions. And Mike would sort of tune out a little bit here and there But he was fucking funny and he's very cool and he's very respectful nice and it was just fun that he knew me and and he go

David, you know, I mean, I don't want to be a me I'm after that afterwards. Yeah, how to go and he was happy about it. I mean he's the champ. I go well. What was David like? He would David with you know, he know, he was so fast with his jokes. You know, I felt like I was punching me with his jokes. I couldn't understand what he was basically saying. You know, so I got scared and I was crying behind my eyes. No one could see me because I thought, what the fuck is this guy talking about?

This fucking guy who worked with that fat guy, Chris, you know, that guy was so fucking funny. And I was so fucking high but I love that guy I really do it man because you can do it too jokes faster than most comedians can do one joke side get emotional I'm Mike Tyson I got dolphin shorts and no shoot I went and I slipped into Fauci for a second I got the COVID! Ha ha! Did the How the Mass work for you, motherfucker? No, anyway, Tyson.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tyson has gigantic mitts. Mits. And it is interesting when you're in my hand, it's like this. But David, he's making little, his hands like a little. When you're next to someone that if you, if you pissed them off accidentally and Tyson just went even from a seated position one right cross then you're dead

like it's weird to talk to the guy how you doing how you doing and you know if he just goes boom yeah people say would you let him hit you for a million dollars not that many people the some people say that and I said who needs a million dollars out that badly to be in a wheelchair the rest of your life and not know what's happening? If he was hard as he could in the face, it's over. Life's over, everything's over. My neck would snap so fast. It's like those little skinny pretzels. And so when Mike was right there, I said Mike, a guy that looked a lot like you beat the fuck up some dude in an airplane, he goes, yeah, what did me? And what did me, I did me, I did me.

And then all 85 people last. He came to me and loved to show in Vegas at the SLS hotel, and he said, oh, the champ's out there. The fucking champ. And I go, and then John does John's act. Hello, are you gay? I mean, it goes really downtown.

John has a very mature act. So later, he has a champ coming back and the guy, he went home. Yeah, but just because I couldn't, I had to get home, you know, because I was, there was so many punks, like, it's like getting punks in the face. So many punks.

What's he's filming there, too? He's not smoking. It's a, it's a vape thing, don't I? He's not smoking. Oh, here's the best part. He hasn't been hit. So he's sitting here, right? So I'm there, it's passions there.

So I'm like blah, blah, blah. Sometimes I just take the reins because he just goes, wrong missy. And I go, oh, the wrong missy. Well, what had happened was with that, and you know, I do 30 minutes. So, but he had blueberries and he had them watching. That wasn't what it was.

That's what the funny part was. Oh, he just crutches blueberries and they're way over here. So the awkward me have gone, why don't they over there? Because he goes like this any okay hang on and he goes Moves the mic and then he goes don't Davis get them get the big thing bluvers and he starts talking but you can't hear So someone is to crawl in and go Back so you can hear him put and then he goes what do you think of that? I go I didn't hear what he asked me

And then I just make up an answer and then he goes He wants more boobers. Is it never ending so long? But you noticed what he does. I didn't know, I thought they're like peanut and M, so there's something because he will take them in his hand and then he kind of shakes them. Like peanuts? Yeah, just kind of shake in a minute's hand

and then he pops them. Yeah. Like in the 70s. So they got a shake in them. Like he's on a rock for a film. He's like, he's on a pool with every juice out of them. And then it was just this for the next hour. Er got a shake. He's a rocker. He's a cool, very juice out of him. And then it was just this for the next hour. Err, and I'm like, Mike, why don't you know,

you guys should put a, one of you 85 people should put them here before he gets here. I didn't know it's the one I watched. I don't know who you guys are. No, you bet. They cut it all out, Dan. I was there live. Oh, and then so they come in, they jump cut

because someone is bringing his mic to the channel. It was so hilarious because there's 85 people and they're like, who's gonna do it? And one guy's like this. Like, get in the army, comes down. Mother fucking dog shit, Mike. You see me, I just breathe on it, it flips. Oh man.

Oh man. There's not a technical issue. Oh, not a smartness, I'll tell you that. Should we say that Mike's a nice guy? I said it's a very nice guy, or are we, because he's the most, in the age of authenticity, he's the ultimate, because he just says everything he's feeling.

Yeah, he's the one who kills this guy so bad. I wanted just to be on my later, and all he was doing was give me an airplane ticket, but I just thought myself gonna kill him. The guy's poking the bear, that's literally on the plane, he keeps fucking with him, and then Mike just turns on pizza, shit out of my love it. And I said, by the way, Mike, if you do one of these

exhibition fights, I don't care which YouTuber I'll see it, you beat the fuck out of me, promise me, and he goes, he, because he's like, I go, you better remind him of who's the fucking boss and you are. And I love that you're number one and you beat his ass. Okay, now, that was a darned Mike Tyson story. Heidi got, that was sort of the story,

but we'll chop that down to 20 minutes. That's good. The flesh, that flesh, flesh that never been this high. Heidi Gardner. Heidi Gardner is a current superstar cast member on Saturday Night Live. A lot of great characters, a lot of fun things. Talk about, she was a hair stylist,

so I get to ask her for 10 years to give me a makeover when I should do this garbage beard and this stupid hair. I want her, because my hair is just, it's like a game of risk. There's only so many soldiers in so much territory. So I got a fluff and fold and comb it back, but I got some soldiers up front that left over.

A lot of troops in the back are with my- It's a Heidi Gardiner. Can make sense of my hair. I would give her a hundred dollars. Let's guess if she gives us different hair styles because everyone says we look the same. So they might say, Dana, you do this and then just... Well, I'm Irish, Scottish and Norwegian.

What do you, why do we look the same? No, we look similar. I'm in hair brown. Do you German or something? I'm German, Irish and English, like the most boring ones here. No, okay, so I'm a real short-order. We kind of like the same, because during the Okay, so I'm really sure. We can't really talk about that.

Because during the pandemic, and I'm in my 60s, I go, I don't know if I can rock the bangs anymore. Jagger can, but I went back, but you went back early so that I kind of copied you. I had a picture of you. Oh, I used to have bangs and then someone said, grow up, you fuckers. Well, I always wanted to have a Paul McCartney haircut.

In my whole life, I want to have a beetle haircut. And my dad would shave our heads. Me and my three brothers would be in the kitchen, we'd just look like cue balls. My mom would come in and go, Dana in the side pocket. Anyway. Hi, DeGarner.

Here she is, guys. Terrestory. Hi, DeGarner, an extraordinarily talented comedian on Saturday at Live. Funny, crazy, neurotic characters. Super commitment. Here she is. Enjoy.

[♪ OUTRO MUSIC PLAYING [♪ Not only have we been going, but it's almost over. Well, thank you guys so much. I'll give this. Look at Heidi's got good teeth. Thank you. And good skin. I want to meet your dermatologist because you have a very nice skin.

Anyway, we started that way with Rob Schneider too. That was our first question. No, that's our first two country water. Lots of water. So anyway, we're narcissists. Magnesiam. We like to talk about ourselves, Heidi. So there's no pressure on you

because we love everything coming back to us. Anyway, how are you? I did a deep dive on Heidi Gardner last night. It was so much fun. Oh my God. I'll start at Dana, because you're like curfewfling, you don't know. I'm wandering around.

I just have like, you see. Dana, maybe if you notice, Heidi, me and you all have slightly similar hair, and if she was a hairstylist, we have to get a makeover. So Heidi, I did my hair the best I could for this, and I just, you have to give us tips. Well, I will say, I did my hair the best I could for this. And I just, you have to give us tips. Well, I will say, I agree.

I think we all basically have the same hair style. So I don't even know that I would give you a tip because I think we all have the nice like waterfall. Swoop. Yeah. Do you think you have a bob, a bob, or a lob? I think I have a bob. What do you, a bob?

Dana's, I don't know what mine is look, but I'm, look, I'm from another era. I was born during Eisenhower's first administration. So to have hair, to push around and be a bully with your head is just lucky. But you have kind of a bob on one side and then a very cool long bang on the other which is very good. Thank you. Who cuts your hair? Her name is Tadi T-E-D-D-I. Okay, how can I reach her? Does she do zoom cuts?

feature. Does she do zoom cuts? Do you get your when you were in KC, is that where you were from KC? Yeah. But I don't mean to sound like Wikipedia, but when you're in KC, is that Lawrence? Is that something Lawrence is the college town about 45 minutes from Kansas City. I went to college there for two years. Oh, you did. Uh-huh. And... Did you know that the lovely Cade Spade went there? I do! Yeah. Did you know that? You can't have that many famous famous people. You have Sudeikas, right? And Paul Rudd is at all the same school? No, so, okay, well Paul Rudd, I do think that... Well, yes, today, this went to KU2. We also have Eric Stone Street,

but I don't think he went to Kansas, or to KU. Yeah. I'm always surprised when comedians have any sort of education. Well, I dropped out, so. Yes. Yes. That means to the comedian right there.

I have about eight credits and anthropology for Arizona State and I might pick up the other 160 this summer and finish it up. I got a degree from San Francisco State. Is that a Magma? But it's a shit box horrible school. This is years ago and it was a shit box. It was a joke.

It was an absolute joke. We spent two years learning how to, because it was a shit, it was a joke. It was an absolute joke. I spent two years learning how to, because it was broadcast and communications, how to like queue up a vinyl LP, and then CDs came in, so it was off as fuck, but I got it in the mail months later. My mom threw it out by accident. Listen Heidi, what I'm here to say is,

so you drop out of college, let's go a little linear for a second. And then you, so then you go to LA and when you went to LA you didn't think you're going to be a sketch player on SNL or well you were voted most likely to be. So your friends, that's the craziest thing. Your friends in high school tagged you for being funny, right? Yeah. Yeah.

And so how are you funny in high school? Were there seeds of what you're doing now on SNL there? Because it seems like you're very astute at plain, young, clueless, neurotic women. And it's new. It's a genre, but the way you're doing it, because I was watching you last night, is at a whole other new level. It's really actually kind of brilliant, but I don't mind gushing, because I was watching you last night is at a whole other new level.

It's really actually kind of brilliant, but I don't mind gushing because I just do and people hate me for it. So, just take us back to your senior in high school. Do you have secret dreams of what happened to you? I don't think that I did. I will say that growing up in Missouri, it just didn't, not the Kansas cities, that small, but they're just, to me at least, was not a path to this at all.

The only path I had was being, I mean, I was absolutely obsessed with movies, TV, pop culture, music, us and L, comedy, everything. But I just thought I was always gonna be the person who knew everything about that and could quote every movie and like and come close But there's no choice there's no chance. I was sort of like her where there's no chance You you're thinking you're doing that. It's just too big. It's too above, right?

Too above. Just it was enough for me to be obsessed with it. And the closest I probably came to it, which is maybe why I got voted that was like, if I was at, I mean, this is more kind of like middle school, but if I was at a sleepover, I was the one who was picked to do all the prank calls. Like I would do one. and I would be like,

okay Christine, your turn, and then all the people have to do it again. I would try to. Would you do voices and stuff? You would change your voice and be somebody else, right? Yes, I mean, like pretty intense ones. There are some that I go back to that are very fun, some that make me really cringe, that are very fun some that make me really cringe that kind of harassy

You know back then it was fun like calling calling up a restaurant or something or you know stuff like that and order Crazy food or while I used to do this one where so there was this local radio station mix 93.3 where, so there was this local radio station, Mix 93.3, and the DJ at the drive home at five was Dennis Pryor, and he was the coolest guy ever at that age. And so I would do this thing where I would call people and I'd be like, hey, this is Dennis Pryor from Mix 93.3, doing random phone calls, and people would immediately be like, oh my god, I would say doing random phone calls. And people would immediately be like,

oh my God, I mean, I would say doing random phone calls. And I'm like, oh my God, I love my 6.3.3. And I'm like, you've got a chance to win tickets to this weekend's chiefs game if you can get this trivia question correct. Chiefs, local thing, chiefs. So, wait a minute. So you're doing the voice of Dennis.

I like chiefs. I thought Dennis was a girl and you're like, that's what every guy. And you're like, no. I thought it was a guy. Is it Denise Pire or was it a guy and you were lowering your voice pretending to sound like a guy? I was lowering my voice and then I was asking really basic questions like, you know, who start opposite Leonardo DiCaprio and Titanic and they'd was like, come on down to the station and pick up. Oh my God. No, no.

So then it turns out my mom, who is a travel agent, actually did Dennis Pryor's travel. And so he comes in to like book his can-cune trip and she's like, how are things down at the station? It was like they're great, but some idiot keeps calling. Oh my God. And telling them that one free cheat tickets. And so we've got people coming down to the station. We don't have the tickets. And she, the whole time, knew, that's my daughter.

How can I ask you for, I want to ask you two things very quick, but how is the dynamic between your parents and yourself? Did you have a cheerleader in one of them like Heidi, you can be and do anything you want, over they more pragmatic or all of the above or what? They were definitely like my parents or I described them as like the coolest like 80s, early 90s people, like they had the look. And I think they divorced and I was like five and a half, but I can only imagine that like when they were together, they were like fire for good or bad.

They were always very, it's weird. I wish I maybe had a, if I was to complain, I wish I had more structure like when I was like I'm gonna drop out of school you know I wish that someone might have been like hey maybe you should have had the rest of it. Honey do your thing you know. I made it even know what my thing was. Hay cosas que te dejan pensando como por qué los vostezos son contagiosos, pero MailChimp no. MailChimp analiza los datos de millones de correos electrónicos para ofrecer recomendaciones personalizadas para mejorar el contenido de tus correos electrónicos, segmentar tu público, entre muchas cosas más, adivina menos y vende más con IntuitimailChimp. La marca número 1 en ImailMark brand is Automatization.

It started with MailSim.com. You'll see more of your publics in the market competitions in the global number of clients in 2020-2022. People have told us that, like, as you're saying, your love of movies, television, all that, you know, as an escape or whatever.

We all have the same love. And I usually ask people at the end, but what, what, in your earliest memories, like 5, 6, 7, 8, what was the first things you started to see, or age 10, which kind of rocked your boat, like, okay, this is the greatest thing in the world, musically film TV. Well, definitely, I very much remember,

especially it was through my parents, them showing me this final tap, but probably like five like six years old sophisticated movie yeah wow and you liked it that's a good comedy and who do you think played the Mime waiter team at the end me and Billy crystal oh you knew that oh my god oh that I didn't know that yeah my my money yeah I that oh I didn't know that My miss money. Yeah, I was so thrilled to be in that it that's my miss money My miss money on I was doing little things and so your parents. Yeah, they're very they're very probably around my agent stuff

So they would they would have loved that movie and really got it and so you you got it at age six So you're a sophisticated kid. To the point where I remember I had after actually they got divorced my dad started dating this like very cool hairdresser and they were going on a date and her roommate like I got dropped off in her place and her roommate was baby sitting me and she was probably like in her early 30s and she was like what do you want to do tonight and I was like I was six years old and she was probably like in her early 30s and she was like, what do you want to do tonight? And I was like, I was six years old and I was like, can we buy a spinal tap?

And she was like, what? Who is this kid? Shit. I don't think I could get my head around how dry and funny that movie was till later because I saw life of Brian when I was later, like 17. And I could look back and wouldn't get most of jokes, but I wasn't that, I think you were ahead of me in that respect because I liked the ones

that I was supposed to like. You know, we had different, you know, different years of that pockets, but animal house, all those animals. And you know, blues brothers and trading places and 40 hours. That was like, these are hilarious.

Our rated guy comedies, and then meatballs, Bill Murray, all this shit. Then I get older, look back, and I get jokes, I never got. That's so weird to say. Well, can I ask both of you a question, since you're younger than me, like, did you get the idea of the dryness of Christopher Guest

with his amp in the setting was to 11, rather than 10, and he said, it's one higher. So 11, so don't look at it. Don't point at he said it's one higher. So 11's don't look at it, don't point at it, it's one higher. I mean that was really sophisticated, dry, Christopher Guest style comedy. So you got it or you just know it was funny. I mean, I don't know if it maybe it was because my parents were last but I, that's one where I can remember my brain getting that on the other hand. And like only a couple years ago did I figure out why the like my hands between two pillows and planes transform automobiles.

Oh, but I used to always laugh when I was in it. So funny. Yeah, yeah, say that. That is so random. It's so specific. I love that hand between two pillows John candy spooning Steve Martin as the lovable loser that latches on to check it out people if you haven't seen it that's one of the greatest that's charming charm charm so as far as television shows or music where there are other things that were rocking your world at time? Yes, let's see. Well, I mean, I will say S&L and Dana, I do have to thank you because I specifically remember the first time I ever made my parents laugh was doing an impression of you doing Robin Leach. Oh really? I don't know why. I'm yelling. I'm yelling and I don't know why.

It's so great. That's so cute. I love it. I don't know why. And I remember them like requesting it from me. You know, like, how do you do the day to carvey day? Oh, that's funny. Okay, that's so funny.

Well, that is just a musical rhythm. There's no joke there, but he did talk awfully loud. I'm yelling and I don't know why. I guess it's just funny that someone can't stop yelling. And it's yeah, because I think people didn't realize Lifestyle's the rich and famous is such a ridiculous show. And then, and then he was kind of loud

and I didn't realize it till you did it. And he's like, well, I gold played in skateboard. Once given him by the Duke of Wales. Yeah. But he's lost me. People have a yacht for 100 meters long. Yeah. So why is that? Hey, guys, the three of us will produce it. We'll get that show should be on the air. Who can we get to host it? John Loveitz will host it for us. I'll talk to him. A diamond covered helmet. Give it in my prints. Gaguga, gaguga, gaguga. Maybe she can find something to wear with a 642 pairs of shoes. I can't what dive down on the bottom by the I'm going to bring that back.

I'm going to bring that back. And because of Heidi, I'm bringing that back in my standup. It's so funny. You know, it's funny, Heidi. I Heidi, I'm bringing that back in my standup. It's so funny. You know, it's funny, Heidi. I was watching you do a Kristen Shawl and it was a Lion King thing. You know, you're just jumping around YouTube and looking at stuff. And Kristen Shawl, who you do funny,

and it was in the Lion King, but the funny thing to me is, it's one of those SNL devices where they go, everybody get your impressions because we're gonna do a screen test. And it's impressions because we're going to do a screen test. And it's such a great one. You do a screen test and you just jump around. Like I would go, I can say one thing as Dennis Lerrier, one thing as whoever and they go, good, throw it in there because we're jumping around, you say get a laugh move and you don't have to hold up a whole sketch with it.

where jumping around, you say get a laugh move and you don't have to hold up a whole sketch with it. Yeah, it's so easy. Unfortunately, I think that's the only one I've really ever been able to do or even sustain for two sentences. Oh, that's, you could do that one longer. Yeah, that's about. Well, that one was just a jump around one

that I thought was kind of funny because if one doesn't work, the next one's funny, you just throw everything against the wall. And you wish, you know, when you're on the show, you're like shooting them that week, or some of those they shoot over a week or two. And then when the host is there, you throw him in or he or her. And then you cut it together and you just almost wish you had more time because you're only running it for dress. That's the only test audience. And you almost want to go, fuck, put that one at the end. Let's see if that's the closer. And then you run on air and something bombs and you go,

fuck, if we just played it one more time, my gut was telling me, pull those two out. Yeah. You know, so yeah, it's kind of safe in a way because you're just a, a, a train of people doing it. I think people would want to hear just, like you go to LA and then you're, you just become a hairdresser. Did you think at a given point like,

okay, this is my career path or did you still always have it in the back of your mind performing? So you're in LA and you did it for years. Just talk to that. I mean, everyone has an interesting way they reach Lauren Michaels desk. So we kind of want unpack yours because everyone has a different trip. And yours that stands out initially is 10 years of being a hairdresser through your 20s, I guess.

Yeah, so I was totally happy. I was assisting happy I was Assisting my my now really good friend Vienna at her salon and I thought that was really exciting I moved to LA at like the height of hair extensions and parasillton so like Me that's fun though. Yeah Me at home with like bull care making hair extensions. I kind of thought that was me at home with like, bullcare making hair extensions. I kind of thought that was like, I think it's artistic,

it's an artistic form of experience. Did you ever do celebrities? Did you do celebrities or see them anywhere around your salon? I mean, being in Hollywood, yeah. I was in studio city, so like, I remember one of my celebrities, I ever saw Jason Bateman like walking as like French bulldog and that's good

That was a cool one. That's a good one Wendy Wendy hear me out. That's Jason Bateman and Ozarks Wendy hear me out. That's all I got so anyway. You saw Jason Bateman. You almost fainted. I saw you on Riverside and Coanga I was right across from remember the good earth. Oh yeah. Ventura. It was between Laurel and Colobon on Ventura. Oh yeah. That's a good little chunk right there. Yeah. It's a lot of fun. Jerry's Delhi. And was it was it a situation comedy in a way at times just salons or just socially dynamic bizarre places. It was incredible, because it was just me and Diana, and then this, and she was a busy hairdresser,

and then just like this rotating door of clients, some that like I still keep in touch with that I love, some walk-ins that we're insane. I mean, I have a really fun relationship with her, because I can just, we can just say the name of a person and so many You still do walk-ins. Yeah, of course. I guess someone comes in your kitchen right now. I Did just cut my friends hair. She wanted bangs and I said absolutely not. I won't

You won't be a part of that. No, but I'll give you layers. Do you feel like you just have it? As far as say the show business thing didn't work out, which it is working out. Could you just go back and pick it up and just be a star? I was asking DM the last time I saw her, I was like, what if when I've in town,

I just come in and assist you on a Saturday and we just see if I still have it like even just to put on some hair colors still got game hair colors hard probably though Yeah, you know highlights are but like a one-process color I just want to do I can still I can do that People would let you because you're a celebs. They let you do it ruin you if you know they don't care Remember I let Sean Penn give me a tattoo. he didn't know what the fuck he was doing. I was in a movie with Sean Penn,

it was a World War Two movie, Nicholas Cage, he was in it as well. And then they brought me in, and then I get a kind of a buzz cut. I'm playing a soldier. And Sean just, he has a soldier too, but he had the coolest buzz cut. It was like five times as long,

and just flowing over. You know, but anyway, that was that. He had the coolest buzz cut. It was like five times as long and just flowing over. But anyway, that was that. So Heidi, I don't have anything else here. You have so good. That's so good. That's it. Well, I was just doing every hair stuff I can.

I'm running out of hair stick. But did you, so this, okay, so you're doing this. I'm just a legitimate curious. And then you start, you go to groundlings or UCB or what's that leap in LA suddenly you're trying to perform. So I make friends with my friend Rachel who happened to be ground lead at the time. And I've always heard of ground leads but I've never gone to a show there which I was surprised. And she was like, well come see me in the improv

show tonight. It was a Thursday night. I went and saw a cookie with gas at the groundlings and I was like, oh my god, that's the funniest thing I've ever seen. My first thought was not that I could do it. My first thought was like, oh, this will be so perfect when my friends or family come to visit. Oh, yeah. Fun and sure. Yeah, that's cute. Well, to share it is fun. It's like you see a comedian, when I first saw even Sebastian a couple of years ago a comedian, I was like, oh shit,

I gotta bring my buddies gotta check him out. That's always the fun of like, who's funny, you like to laugh together. But then how do you make the jump? Does someone say you should try that? Or youth? So then she said, you should try that. And I was like, oh my God, no, like I'm not an actor. And she was like, I know that you're not an actor, but you leave me like seven minute voicemails in character. I have no other idea. Okay, so you're an actor. Yeah.

That's just all this is, I be like, and so I am. Well, that's improving and riffing. That's hard to do. I just never knew what it was, what I was doing. And then I took my brother. I was like, oh, my new friend said that I should take an improv class.

And he was like, Heidi, I've been waiting for you to say this, our entire lives is my older brother. I will pay for your class. Wow, that's so sweet. Wow, so he was more objective. He could see you being funny. And you're not seeing yourself in the kitchen at age 12 or whatever, but your brother could.

And so he harbored that thought for you. Yes. Interesting. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. So, okay, then the only thing, one thing that always intrigued me, because I think David and I come from a similar school, we weren't like ready rock, you know, fully loaded or confident. When was the moment or the time period where you're, you join up and then you start to kind

of notice, wow, I'm, I'm, I'm where I belong or I'm pretty good at this. You know, it starts to become real and do you remember a specific moment like that or just generally you kept going up the food chain, right? Because you go to the next class and next, you wanna get to the main stage. So what was that journey like for you? Well, it was really cool because I didn't even understand how the

groundlings were. I didn't even think it was really attainable. So I was just, I was going up the food chain, but and it sounds corny, but it was just this like kind of following my bliss. Like, oh, this is really fun. This is an outlet for me. Yeah. I'm funny and I'm learning how to be less shy, you know, and I just felt like my life opening up a little bit more. Yeah. And I remember there was a guy in a class with me that he was like, oh, are you going to go see the Sunday show this week? And the Sunday company is like all the people trying to get into the groundlings.

And I was like, what's that? And he was like, oh, that's like what we're all trying to do. What? Why are you here? What are you? Why are you here? Why are you here? And to someone with that much talent being that,

what do you mean? You know, OK, go ahead, funny. And there was this other show at the time, they still do it every so often at the ground means what it's called the black version and it's all black improvisers and comedians improvising the black version of like your favorite movies and that show I would go every single Monday to see that show and this was like Jordan Peel was doing it Gary and Anthony Williams, Keegan Michael Key, Funny-ish show.

Oh yeah, I could imagine. And so when he asked me, like, what are you doing here? I was like, well, I like to see the black version. And he was like, you can't be in that show. Yeah. I know, I know. I just thought that's what I like. So.

I just like to watch. Yeah. And so that was really cool. Now to find myself in such a like sometimes headi or competitive arena. Yeah. I like to think back to that time where I didn't know anything and it was just fun. And you could be happy with where you're at.

And then in never in a million years, you'd be an SNL. And then you're light in some show and you could be happy with where you're at and then in never-ending years, you start being an SNL and then you're light in some show and you're depressed and you're like, what am I doing? I'm crazy because I can't believe I'm here. It just happens to all of us. That exact same feeling happens to everybody, I think. Yeah, that's good. Did you develop then at some point

what the word would be ambition or a sense of Like maybe I can do this and maybe I can make a living at this and then come some sort of drive that you have to find in yourself Because normally there's a lot of failure and a lot of humiliation But so you're in groundlings. It's going well. You're not even thinking future tripping You're just thinking this is making me less shy, super confident, which I think it does. And then, well, then what happened? So then, I mean, it's probably bad that he introduced what Sunday company was to me. And he's like, yeah, it's like a mini SNL. You get to perform every Sunday, write sketches, try sketches, out, do characters, buy your own

wigs and costumes, and it was like, oh that sounds fun. Very fun. And so I got into Sunday company and I was obsessed and I was like the overachiever, you know, like Wednesdays or pitch night, and a lot of people would bring like three or four sketches because it's like, you know, at most you're gonna get a Sunday show. and I would write like nine things because also I wasn't confident I was like eight of these are probably shit like I need nine, you know, so my odds of getting one thing in so I was just writing and And developing characters all the time. And it helps you write.

That's hard to do. That's like a skill you're just suddenly deciding if you have because you're just doing, going, I guess I'm writing right now. Is this what writing is? Because you're just saying, oh, I'll just scribble some shit down and suddenly you're writing. I know, I'm a writer.

It always sounds so high-flute. And I'm a writer, man. I'm writing stuff if you're not used to it. It sounds like grandiose. So then you started landing things, I guess, and getting people interested in your classmates saying, Heidi, that was really funny. I mean, you're getting feedback.

What did that feel like? I mean, the audience is starting to laugh. What happens? I mean, to you inside,'s heady stuff, right? Yeah, it just felt, it was so much fun and it was so freeing, I guess. I think I'm someone who probably kept a lot of, I had such like gregarious emotional parents

that I think I kept a lot of things like close to the chest that and I'm a Leo and I never felt like I was a Leo. But when I started performing at groundlings, I felt like a Leo. I was like, oh, this is the lion. Okay. A leader or a leader of the pack. It is cool. It sort of fuels you to get a few laughs. And then it buys you enough to go in again the next week and it just keeps momentum going. If you were bombing every time, it would be different. You'd be like, shit, this isn't for me. But the scary thing, even for me in stand-up, was when do you get rid of the job and try to realize the pressure is on when you say, I just want to do this

now. And I'm like, well, how do I make money at this? I love it. And, you know, it's hard to quit a job because that's the real world, you know? Most people aren't going to make showbiz. Yeah, I mean, I fully, I stayed doing hair a little too long and it was actually my friend, Deanna, who I worked with, who like sat me down, took me to lunch one day

and was like, why are you still here? Where are you belong? And it was funny when I quit. I hadn't told my clients that I had this other thing I was doing, because I never wanted them to think I wasn't focused on there. Sure. Oh really?

That's so sweet. Like you're trying to apologize for. Are you in the main company? Are you having agents coming and see you at this point when you quit the salon? Was there a foothold? Are you reading for things or just... I wasn't in the main company yet. I was just in Sunday company and I think that most I'd gotten a manager.

But I knew I would come into work and I would see like a busy day and I would be annoyed because I was like, well, I've got like sketches right. I wig and like, and I knew that was bad because like, you know, we've all talked about our great hair. It's important to people. Yeah, no, I get it. Yeah, I get that. I have a question about groundlingslings Heidi. When you are there, is it, do they look down on, if you bring a 11 pressure, or do they like real characters out of the blue?

Is it, is it looked up upon if you come up with sort of a weird, different character no one's done? I think it's mostly all just real grounded characters. I've never felt like, I was like, they don't do it, impressions, not as much. I was like, wow. I was making people do impressions,

but in shows, I never feel, I never felt like any impressions were in the stands. I didn't know that. Yeah. I didn't know that. Yeah. So when you were developing, it's developing. It's developing. any impressions were in the I don't know that yeah and so When you were developing cheap to them probably I may be I don't know The it seems like you do you do have

So it is secret that means yes Well, it is sort of you coming there you go. Hey, I can play I can do Christopher walk and everyone's like y'all on Well, I always tell people if you do an impression of your friend, then it's your character. If the friend's not famous, you know, or you take it and exaggerate it and stuff. But I'm interested. I mean, the connectivity to that, because your characters are, it would seem to me that the young audience, female audience would love the character study you're doing with, I mean, I'm sorry, but Bayley and Gismer and the cocaine, I mean, they're all, there's a, there's a sensibility to what you're doing. And are you noticing that people love what you're doing on Sarah and I for me

Did people love you? Do they love you and did you notice when you were doing groundlings that all this this this Heidi Gardner sensibility started to Emerge of the way you're doing characters because it seems very fresh. I Don't have big better words than that. You know, I don't have better words than that. I don't think I was, I knew people were liking it, but you know, probably at this point in my detriment,

I'm a bit modest and I don't think too much about, I probably am a little more hard on myself than, that makes sense. I was always the same. I always thought I could fire it. And David too. I totally get that. Yeah.

They kept telling me that was the difference. When I was watching, yeah. Well, yeah. At the summer break, I would have to drag my fucking apartment and get rid of it in like what, you know, May. And then I don't know if we're bringing them back. I don't know what we're doing with him. I don't know if he really wants it and then. And then August they bring me back I have to go back and run an apartment and drive drive it was a Uber Heidi I would have. I was some cute girl I would drag a dirty mattress with P all over it up the stairs and then.

mattress with pee all over it, up the stairs, and then all I need was a desk of pee mattress, and then a fork and a bowl and a knife. But what's the bad part of that story? I don't know. Lord always does. Should David come back? I don't know. Dana, did I scare you enough? Can we get rid of it?

Lord would ask me, should David come back? What do you think? Do you think there's anything there? I'd be eating a sandwich. I'll get back to you. No, I'm kidding. No, Lauren would not ask me for. I was brought in to get Dana going off his ass,

even though he was in 20 sketches. David was brought in. He sat behind me. You heard this in the streets. I literally started smoking as a guy so I could fuck with those guys. Come on, Ben. What are you guys doing?

What are you guys doing? We're making an adventure a channel between character and man. What are you guys doing? Heidi, I actually don't do this very often but last night when I was watching your stuff, I just wrote down words. I've done this with any other guests. And I don't even know exactly why, but I wrote down Carol Burnett. It was something about the tone of your voice. I wrote

down playful, commitment, emotional, as far as the character's vulnerable, clueless, competitive, passive aggressive. Anyway, I'll be back in 10 minutes. We're going to take a short break. Listen, I wrote down Cell Bitcoin and something else. That's what I tried to get you coming through. No, I like, oh, I'm sure you could speak to that. Part of your charm is that you're not, you're, you're, you're, you don't wear what,

what's, you know, these last few years on SNL and you're sleeve, you know, it's hard to own it, right? I mean, you're, you're, you're humble about it, which is very charming. But when you're out there doing these characters, you're just, you're ferocious in your commitment. I mean, it's not soft, right? It's like, whoa, she is going for it.

I think you know, like, everything matters there and everything's an audition and like, you need to score when they turn the camera on you go, I got to score because that's it. I got to think about this for the next week or longer. Like, did it work? Did it not work? Everyone's judging it quietly. The one with Mickey Day, Nico Slop and then Breathe in the Cardi.

That is so fucking funny. I mean, don't you love doing that character? It's like she's insane. What did she come from? I just, I think in ground lings I had done, I had done a sketch where it was me and this my friend Ryan Gal, where we started a scene with friends where like, he I think like finished my wine or something and then I'm obviously upset and he's asked me like, is anything wrong and I'm like, no, I'm fine. You know, and just that like little like, I just know how to play that because I've done it in my own life and I've

brought it to Mikey and I was like I want to play a couple like this and he was like I've definitely been that guy in a relationship and let's just explore the worst parts of the people that we've been in relationships the most passive and And so it those things feel really easy and they they come from places either where yes I myself was being passive or I myself was being enclosed off like awkward kid or not letting my emotions out And so I do feel like when I get to Actually do it. It's it's really freeing because'm just being like, yeah, it's in there. Like some parts of me, some parts of I see other people, but I get to let it. It's cathartic, I assume. Yeah. What year are you? This might, well, I'll be going into

my sixth year. Oh, but people say they're long. Like I was out. Six is my last one. Farley and Santa were five. Dana was six, I I think did you go six or seven seven? But you're you're the people that just left the show I heard was eight to ten years Yeah, so it hasn't felt I mean it's weird to say six years because I Do feel like you have a year of sketches in six years? Yes, that's what I felt like. We haven't had like a shake up. Like there hasn't been a dynamic shift.

You know, so the seniors have always been the seniors and yeah. So it's kind of it's emancipating for you and Melissa or other women on who's your class. Yeah. Who else? Who's on your like your era came in around your time? Like Mikey and Melissa, Ego, Chris, we're all kind of like in the same. You know, we just talked to Malaney and he was saying very nice things about you.

Me? Yeah, he was. We tried to cut him off. We felt, okay, that's enough. And then he kept going. And I did say nice things about you. But do you feel acclimated to that situation? Do you feel comfortable around Lauren Michaels? Who's always was an intimidating figure without even trying.

When you get off the show, you'll see how vulnerable he isn't stuff underneath that, that sort of exterior. But how are you doing in terms of your relationship with the show actually? Dana by the way what if Lauren walked in like Donald Sutherland and Animal House right now just came in to get it just to get a code what do you would be an hidey-skitching or something like yeah I'm just dropping by it's that thing of like you know it's that six season and things are going to open up for you Anyway, whatever that means, but go ahead. Go ahead Heidi. I'm sorry. Continue. Continue Heidi

We'd like to interrupt I forgot I forgot the question because I was just thinking about what if I was in Lauren That would be crazy. Comes in short. Are we still playing tennis? Are you done? Heidi, it's a winter spring sort of relationship. It'll be quiet. No one will know what we're doing and like it'll be like a really a lot of fun. We're meeting Jack Nicholson for spaghetti tonight, remember?

Yes. And both Paul's are coming. So are you feeling comfortable? I mean, your six years in on the sound stage with the sketches, with the whole system, because it took me, I think, at least four, at least 80 shows to start to feel consistently more playful and relaxed. Yes, I always think I could probably

be more playful and relaxed. I feel like my nervous system, though, does feel a lot better. There was some point in this season where I think I had just been like holding on to it very tight and I just let go. Wow. It's like an SNL and just like an open palm and that has felt a lot better. Well I find that what happens is that there's a cast member and then you're on the show and it depends how much you're in it and if there's 20 cast members takes a while.

And then when you start to, the audience discovers you and you can feel a sense of like here comes Heidi, you know, and they're happy with reoccurring things. And that feeds the confidence. And then you get more confident and then get better and it kind of feeds on itself. I mean, I can see that's the fun of SNL. That's the reality show of SNL. Someone's never on TV. And then we're watching them get more confident audience catches them. And then suddenly they're flying, you know, like takes off.

So you're feeling a little bit this last season, a sense of emancipation from the fear of it. You're acclimating them, maybe you'll be more, take more chances, you think. You're already hitting it out of the ballpark, but you feel like you, lots, there's a lot, let me tell, do it as Donald Trump, excuse me, many people are saying,

she's got a lot left of the take. Let me tell you that, sit, she's, just kidding, I the tick. Let me tell you that. Sit just, just kidding. So I'm not kidding. You're going to be happy. Everybody's going to see it. But anyway, sorry. Well, that's your Heidi. Next year, there's a little wiggle room

with some people leaving, which doesn't mean that Pete leaving helps you. Or it doesn't, but nothing really helps you. It's just, and there's so many anyway, so it's hard to really clear the runway, but maybe there's a little bit, or maybe they'll bring more people in. It's just, it never relaxes really though.

Yeah, and I think for me, I'm just like accepting that, and as hard as it can be to have such a big cast, because I do feel like it is kind of erotating sometimes carousel of sadness of like if you're having a good week, your friend probably isn't and so but I will say that I think it made me realize even more like I have no I have no control here absolutely none as much as I want to try like I have no I have no control here absolutely none as much as I want to try like I have no control here I didn't even before it's like such a machine especially with such a big cast and so for me it's just I that's really helped me

just to be like sometimes I get to do my things sometimes I have one line in a show and if I really just have one line I'm gonna do my best to do what I think is funny with that one line or make my like ass-made slap. And even like I want to feel emancipated with the audience and I do feel free but I also seeking that validation even though obviously you need it, you need the laughs, is probably not good for just like the kid that I am. So it's like, I'm just trying to be okay with myself.

And that's what's making me feel free. If you had therapy because you seem very centered. If you've been to therapy, are you just figured that it's not. We don't really know though. We only can control what we control. That's like a lot of wisdom in that for someone to me you're a child. Yeah.

Yeah. We're young. I was a certain point this year where my therapist was like, because I am in therapy, but he was like, Hey, what are you talking about about SNL in like weeks. And he was like, do you want to?

And I was like, no, I'm good. And he'll kind of like check in. And I, yeah, I just, I haven't much. And I certainly would if like something was painting me or like on, on my mind, that I wasn't able to like process on my own. But I think you got the point where it's hard to get to where you just realize it's all out of your control. And you know, if you have two lines,

sometimes there's pride in me, a good castmate, and saying, put me two lines in your thing, I got two, I'm going to do them great. You want them big? You want them subtle? What do you want? I'm servicing this sketch. And when the whole sketch works, you go, I was a do them great. You want them big? You want them subtle? What do you want? I'm servicing this sketch and when the whole sketch works you go I was a part of it and then you write somebody in something I would feel bad If I wrote Mike Myers two lines or I wrote Dana. They're too big a star to do that But they come in and they come in and do it and say how do you want me to do it? What do you want to do here?

And they have a smile and you go that's what I love you just go okay we're all doing this you're helping mine out I hope yours out whole show will be better and if you can do that and it sounds so easy it's kind of hard though yeah it's everyone should be in therapy when they do that show I think at least check in Lauren should have a you know a little kiosk with you it's your time now he's gonna shoot yeah like at the airport, they have that sit down massage, the room. You should just go in there and between,

we're in the room. I'd probably be paid for by the show, like there should be. Oh, maybe you're conscious. 100%. Yes. It's an emotionally violent career, it, you know, show business basically.

Yeah. Except maybe Tom Hanks or whatever, you know, but for the rest of us, you know, show business basically, except maybe Tom Hanks or whatever, you know, but for the rest of us, you know, it is up and down, you get your feelings hurt, you have highs and lows, and you do have to make peace with that and go, but I'm in show business and it should be fun and it should be exciting. I just wanted to say also, being an Adam's film, and I saw you in there. You're perfect and great and so that's kind of cool I mean that's that whole other lane that our nightlife may open up for you. I think You know you can do that too

So you have other frontiers to conquer as well. How was that working with Sandler? Was he kind of a dick? I like that question What level of dick was he? Ah, thaw bathu. I got bbuh. Any dick? He did some of that on set. That was very cool. He's got to. Now, how does he, does he find you like he says, I've seen in the show, it has someone calling and say, do you want to do this, or does he meet with you, or does he, or you audition? Well, it was kind of cool because my first few seasons on the show, one of the writers there, Dan Bola, who's worked with Sandler and friends with him on Sundays, Dan would text me and he'd be like, hey, like Sandler really liked the sketch Sundays Dan would text me and he'd be like, hey, like Sandley really liked the sketch

you did last night and you know would always tell me when I liked something and that felt so good. And then my fourth season towards the end of the season I did a sketch where I played Michael Jordan's security guard from like the last dance documentary. And that same night, I got a text from Adam directly like being like, that blew me away. Like very, and I was like, whoa, like this wasn't through the friend. This was like, yeah, I'm playing Adam. And then I think he knew, like I was in the sports. And my name just started getting passed around

to play cat and hustle. And then yeah, he, he called me last summer to tell me it was happening. And I'm a huge sports fan. So what, all sports are what kind of sports? Just sports. Definitely NBA and NFL. Yeah. I like baseball and I like the Olympics.

Do you like, oh, I love track and feel. I'm that's my, but I love the NBA. And I love the Golden State Warriors. I grew up in the Bay Area. Hey, you're loved tonight. Thank you. I don't know if they'll already be champions when this is aired. Thank you to the team of, so yeah,

Sandler is like that. He's very sweet and nice about just reaching directly to people. Yeah. Yeah, that movie is great. I mean, it's just, I know when I saw it, now it's got a lot of tomatoes. A lot of tomatoes, Adam, but when I saw it was great.

So I think that just spending this time with you, yeah, I just think your attitude is perfect and you're just gonna just work. You're just gonna do a lot of stuff and you're gonna do a lot more SNL stuff. And I do think Lauren should, you know, few cast members leave and then just, you got plenty of cast members. Right.

You don't have to rush out. We're having it with you on this 15. There shouldn't be go to it. I know Lauren may not. There is a lot of talent out there, but you don't really wanna corral them in in right away when there's a little break like this You're like all right, just lock the door for one second. Yeah, yeah Just you know, I love everyone that's on the show and you know what you were saying David about you know

Like putting your friend in even if it's a couple lines But they do you the sob and you do them the solid like I love being obsessed with sports I love the idea that we are a team. Like, that feels cool to me on the weeks that I'm light. Like, I'm like, okay, well, what can I do to support the team? Like, listen, I always, like, if she's got a weekend update and, you know, I'm like, come to my room, let's rehearse it. Let's, it feels good.

Punch it up. Yeah. Yeah. And so I want to create that bond even more with the people we have, not that I'm not welcoming, but it's like, oh, I like my team. I don't know if it's corny. I don't know if it's corny now, but it was just accidental for me. But when you do a talk show host at home base,

so you're a funny talk show host, whatever it is, and then cast members come on as guests and perhaps the host and they're reoccurring to, I know that Lauren likes that. And it is nice to get everyone playing and I was able to have Phil Hartman and Jan Hoaxon church chat. I mean, it's like the dream team of scoring and then have a host on there.

So I'm gonna write something up for you. And I'll give you a hand. David and I are not a cat. Please, please write me a talk show. I know that that is the thing that I should do. And you know, I think a bit like every four weeks like, oh, I should write a talk show and then I have some other. It's kind of like you would more better. It's your age group. It's like, what is I Geisty now? Yeah. And it's a moving target all the time of what is the clueless,

talk show host now, or what's the style of it. I would know, but I would see other characters you've done on update and others. Yeah, I think you're the person who to come up with that. No pressure, but Well, you can also pluck your character you could do your movie review girl And you could you know you could always sort of move them around and do something But it's just hard because then you got to write for everyone else and that's tricky, too Yeah, I don't know if this would help Heidi, but I'm pretty good at catchphrases. So maybe the character would go

Heidi Heidi, Heidi, but I'm pretty good at catchphrases. So maybe the character will go Heidi Heidi Heidi ho That would just be the sign off. I don't know. I'm just a You're yelling your own name. Yeah You're a super likable. I'll just say I'll just say it. I'm going out on a limb and where are you right now before I let you go? You are in New York or you in KC or what do you do in New York? In Dumb O.

Oh, Dumb O. Wow. Dena, that's a city. Dumb O, New York. Dumb O. What? Yeah. Oh, okay. Dumb O, Brooklyn or something? Yeah, Dumb O, Brooklyn. Oh, Dumb O, Brooklyn, okay, I'm Bo Brooklyn or something. Yeah, don't go Brooklyn. Oh, don't go Brooklyn. Okay. Yeah Near a dump. Oh,

You don't know anything. What a what a David as a mansion. That's all I'm gonna say And he David has an elevator in his house That's common knowledge isn't it David? I'm not talking out of turn I built a small room so it looks like an apartment to do a zoom cause He has a water slide that goes from the outside into his house. Oh Says the guy who has a full length mirror in his room What I'm those aren't cheap your room looks so nice. I thought you were in the nice hotel room right now look at Dana me Well, this I'd I'd say. Must be rough, Dana.

We tease each other, this cat. Let me tell you something about this kid. This kid, I'm at David when he's just a long time ago. Before I know, this is a little... This is a little... This is a little rough. But Heidi, you're so adorable. I don't know what to say.

My wife's gonna love this one. She listens to all of them. I go, how was it, honey? A little rough, a little tight. She's what I'll tell me you can't do voices on the podcast. It's not the place. So I did. Why? This one I did because you're such a sweet audience, but I've been working on Biden. That's my new toy. And so I get a little hyperbolic about it. You know, do some, will will go out on Biden give a couple Biden always points out bad things as if he's not president and people people can't even for the gallon gas Unless everybody's can't even go and tear the people to the time

This is America. Is this a part of parts of Caribbean? You know, he's it always ends with a part of Caribbean, he's become the yelling by and it's a brand new funny Biden He's always up there yelling now and he used to be kind of whispering my dad lost his job. No joke. I'm kidding around Nice talk out of the chalk loud People ever wear a kind of He's got to be more powerful Yeah, the little book that he's passing on yeah, he is is, he's the old man who, an old man that's yelling, spitting into the wind basically, look how strong I am.

I got a lot of I can talk. But try to punch me, punch me in the stomach. That's what he's gonna do with these things. Punch me, he said he'd take Trump, take him outside the woodshed, beat the hell out of him. Trump would kill him. I know. Well, that was my favorite Trump quote, the craziest

Trump quote quote. What is it? He said he'd beat up Trump and goes, uh, hit him so hard to be crying all the way down. Oh, I don't. He'll be crying all the way down. Oh, no, talks like that. We have a crying all the way down. So anyway, Heidi, you're a great audience. Thank you, Heidi. He say a load of Melissa and Chris Redd and some people I know and haven't seen in a while, but I remember when they got the show and you're all doing great.

This is gonna be a good season. I'm excited too. Yeah, yeah. Thank you for having me. This is very special. Good luck, good job with hustle and we'll see you soon. Thank you, Heidi. Thanks for coming on.

We love you. Love you, too. I just Heidi. Thanks for coming on. We love you. I just say that now I'm old. I love you Talk soon. Okay. I'll call you in 20 minutes. Okay Hey, what's up flies? What's up, please? What's up people that listen? We want to hear from you and your dumb questions questions Ask us anything anything you want you can email us at flyin'thewallatcadens13.com. Hey guys, it's Spade and Carvy and we're over here looking the same. We're doing our questions and answers.

And this is a thing where you ask a question and we answer forever and we don't really even answer the question. All right, Patrick Carr, hello. Hello, Patrick. The SNL after party seemed to be subject to lore amongst the people who aren't involved in the show. Yeah, they do sound interesting.

I'm wondering if those parties really do happen every week and if they are as crazy as they say and as the whole crew invited, do people blow it off for a while? Are they expected to come? Is the cat, this is a 12-part. This is a long, we do long answers. This question has a mother fun here. Any funny after party stories that won't jeopardize anyone's career?

This is really enjoyed, really enjoyed the show. Okay, fair enough. Where do we start on this? Well, you were the bad boys of comedy. So you probably have beer stories. Me, I was just had an M still light. Me, Phil and, went home early. You know what's funny?

I never did any Sniffy jiffy that whole SNL run, and that's the only time you should be doing it. That would not fit your biological. I mean, I can't imagine you're doing Sniffy with me. Sniffy jiffy. I always hated it. I took cocaine, I snorted cocaine once, and I drove over to the comedy club,

and I drove around, and I couldn't go in the club because I thought they all hate me. That wasn't the drug for me. Yeah, it hits everyone differently. I only did it once in the old days in AZ right before I went on stage at some crummy open mic night and it was not my persona. I went up there like John but I'm like,

yeah, da da. You know what I mean? It was too, and I got too ahead of myself. I got scared. But the SNL parties, there was probably drugs on it was more when we talked to the old cast that was for sure. They were going to stay up all the way until Monday. But the parties are fun because the interesting part to me was that you don't know maybe during the show, they don't want all these people in Paparazzi to show up

at the party. So during the show, they will slip you. Marcy would slip you a little note that would just say two inches by two inches, where the party was in the address. And that was it. And you'd put it even in your wardrobe, you'd just like, you'd read it and go, got it, memorized. And then that was during the show. That's how late they told you. So no one knew where it was.

And it would be at Oles or down at Columbus or whatever. I would put this out, you know, one is, I never could sleep in as a night owl in SNL so, I basically was up in those days, like eight or nine and that's the day of the show. You're already tired, you're up very late the night before. So then you do the whole show, so that's like 16 hours, you're prepping, rehearsing, calling people,

you get to the show, you do a 12 hours of rehearsal, of a practice show, these show. So it's 1 a.m., you're out on your feet, and now let's go to a party. So you hope you get a second win, but the last time I was there, because Lauren can always, his endurance nocturnally is legendary.

He'll always stay to the very end. You're a baby if you leave it 430. A coward and a loser, and I don't know why I would say that. end. You're a baby if you leave it for 30. A coward and a loser. And I don't know why I would say that. Dana, you're a baby, a coward and a loser for leaving out. So the last time I did a guest spot, I said, I'm gonna stay all night with Lauren and I did and he just talked brilliant stuff for hours

and then the lights come on. Have you ever been there where the restaurant lights come on? Like at 6 a.m. it's very eerie and Lauren's like in the middle of, and that's that thing of like when you read a book You don't it reads you as well There's a little siren I guess we have to go now But then one time I was in the car with him

Do you want to go get bagels? They're fresh. They're coming out now. We could go get bagels and it's like you know She is now it's morning. You haven't even slept for 15 in the morning So that's the main thing I remember, not cocaine, girls, nothing to lose it. Just can I fucking stay awake? Yeah. I, you know, the stress of being on and so you do that whole day, Dana described, you get, you, everybody gets a demo, usually feature players, I'd have to split it with someone. So let's say, um, me and rock go over and we, we get there and then they have tables and you're sort of section off feature players.

If it's a four top two of you have to go there if you have a friend with you. You don't get your own table Danny gets a big fucking booth and a throw and then and then or he sits at the learn and then the stress comes immediately because you sit down you just breathe get your amp still light and someone goes Michael Keaton this this week, what do you got? You're like, oh fuck. So you just finished the show. With Kristie Alley. And then like, Michael Keaton this week, what do you got?

Start rocking your brain. And so you have a drink and everything, but it's hard to start drinking it. One. You can't. It's just, it's just, it's just, it's, you nurse, you nurse an amp still light. Because Sunday is basically not to interrupt,

but Sunday is $10 a quarters. And you just, I go down to my base, and do fucking laundry. I'll say one thing that at a given point, first of all, there were no cars for us to get to the party when I got on the show because the budget was cut. So you had to try to get a cap and go to the party. But then after a while, the show got popular and then it'd be like, maybe sting comes in, Paul Simon, some New York Ranger athlete, whatever.

And I remember my friend and I used to think of, we were such beal fans, we wanted John Lennon to be back alive into walk-in because we wanted these celebrities to be blown away. Yeah, you're like, what would fuck them up? Oh, John Lennon's coming in. So when I was in the 70s, my friends and I had a club called What's It Got to Do with John Lennon?

And we had T-shirts made. And we actually wrote a song What's Got to Do with John Lennon? Also McCartney freaks too. We had McCartney T-shirts. But Ringo's up there with you too, right? And my brothers, my brothers, they were my brothers. I like Ringo.

And George was sort of like this, you know, John and Paul with the primary songwriters. And Lenin was like this and Paul was like this. Yeah. Thank you, David, for sending me off. That was a good one. For the questions I've done 12,000 times. All right, we're still hanging in there.

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