Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Jimmy Kimmel Hosts the Show

Episode Date: January 11, 2023

The guys switch sides of the table as Jimmy Kimmel comes over to ask them all about their SNL journeys. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Whether you're doing a dance to your favorite artist in the office parking lot, or being guided into Warrior I in the break room before your shift, whether you're running on your Peloton tread at your mom's house while she watches the baby, or counting your breaths on the subway. Peloton is for all of us, wherever we are whenever we need it. Download the free Peloton app today. Peloton app available through free tier, or pay subscription starting at 12.99 per month. Now we can go to the show. The truth is, Jennifer Lopez, if you've noticed, and I'm not a conspiracy guy, she gets married, then does a wedding about getting married. No, she

gets married, then does a movie about getting married, then gets married, then does a wedding about getting married. No, she gets married, then does a movie about getting married, then gets married, then does a movie about getting married, then gets divorced, one more movie about getting married. Does that sound like it's possible? I see where you're going with that. There's a lot of match relations. You have a PR person, you know, FYI, it wouldn't be bad if you were seeing dating so and so. That's true. Clicks and views, David, I know you think it's romance be bad if you were seeing dating so and so. That's true.

Clicks and views, David. I know you think it's romance. Emily Ratatouge. Try to do good work, but it's all about clicks and views. Who is Emily Ratatouge? She's on a real tear. Uh, Emily Ratatouge. Yeah.

Get with the program, Dan. She should shorten that to Emily R. I think Ratatouge skis too. How about Emily the Rat? That seems kind of mean in a way. Oh. I think Ratatoucsky's to how about Emily the rat. That seems kind of mean in a way. Call her rat. I'm just saying. Ratatoui was cute. I turned down the voice of ratatoui. No, you didn't. Yes. We just stumbled into it. I went and visited Pixar. They wanted me to do the lead rats. And I said a Dureen Bush Jr.'s administration. Dureen the bubonic flame. A French rat.

I thought this is gonna go down. I don't want to be the guy who took down Pixar. Next thing you know. 700 million. 700 amlini. I don't make good choices. No. All right, we're gonna talk about Jimmy Kimmel thing.

First of all, how was your Christmas? Oh yeah, that's nice. Horrible. No, it was sad eyes. You know what someone says, don't give me anything. And then that morning you see the sad eyes. I hate that. Me and they, because you didn't give me anything.

Yeah, no, I don't need anything. And then you see the sad eyes. A lot of people cheat. They say no presents and then one person does it. You said don't get me anything. I just said, okay. Yeah. We're fine.

My mom does a thing. She does two things. First of all, she gives you lazy bags, which are, it's a bag you get at the store with a piece of Kleenex in the presence in it. And I go, this isn't a present. This isn't wrapping a present. So it's a bunch of lazy bags.

All you have to do is move it according. I actually really had a name like lazy citizens. Lazy bags. Yeah, I coined it. Lazy bags. That's cool. And she goes, oh, it's only lazy bags this year, but it's fine. I'm 88.

So she gave me that. And it was great. And then you know, my mom is always like, oh, Davey, because when I go home, she goes, ding dong. And I go, I just stare and she goes, get the door. And I go, oh, okay. And she goes, I go, who is it juice who is it? I go? I don't know mom. It's your house. I don't know go check

And then it's like the neighbor girl who's nine she made me cake She goes What a homecoming and I go oh that's nice. Well, why do you make me cake? Because you're famous I go oh okay, and then I go and go give her a hug. Don't be like that Invite her in and talk to her say hi do some jokes from grown-ups Totally on you can't just relax I can't she goes oh go ride bikes with her and her friends. Why did you get like this? I go on one Don't pull your showbiz routine on us? Anyway, I don't

want my showbiz routine. But Jimmy Kimmel, you had a good Christmas. I'm just gonna do it. It was fine. And I will tell you, Dana, I heard a lot about this farly episode. I heard a lot of feedback. Maybe the most feedback we've heard on anything. I think so. What does that say? All positive, by the way. The most interesting thing was we were sent a email that gets sent in for the questions, the Q and A stuff. And we had a lot of response about people saying, it made me quit. It made me quit drugs. That was very emotional. I got some of those things. Yeah. It was very nice that that was an offshoot of this, which was not really the intention, but it's nice that it hit people home because it was,

as we sort of sold it, it was 90% fun and laughs, and then now and then you just got caught off guard. And it's a very real situation, so we got emotional, people got emotional. Yeah, we tried to treat it with respect and dignity and not make it. So apparently people really liked it. So that was cool. It's very entertaining. I'm going on my tour, my tour starts back up. Never ending tour.

And I'm going to Wisconsin. I'm going to Madison, where Farley is from. I'm going to Milwaukee, going to Appleton. All the places I had heard about, and I don't think I've ever performed there. So, looking forward to that and the others. Are you playing Green Bay? I don't think so. Cause I'm trying to rally Aaron Rodgers out by the way.

How is Green Bay? I've been there to one game. Mike Myers and I back in the day. Shwank was touring together and we played. I think it was Green Bay. Shwank. And they said, Shwank, they said.

I say it like 60 minutes, not in series. Swing. We saw in Wayne's World II, I did that bit where Garth is just hanging out and he was having a conversation. So I knew I didn't know what to say to my dad and a girl while I was chewing. Anyway, so that was like the only time

when I got in a fight, swing, swing, swing, you would hit him like, you know, phone or I'd ask. But they told Mike and I, they love it when you say cheeseheads. So we're up there as Wayne and Garth, and we started going, you're a bunch of cheeseheads, and we started chanting it,

and they started getting really, really mad and booing. Oh, they tricked you. Yeah, we had to cut the show short, jumping a car. Dole a bath, Garth. You know, luckily you weren't playing a rattah tune. So don't say, hey, you cheeseheads, even if they tell you to as a joke. Jimmy Kimmel is going to do a, that sounded't playing the radish. So don't say, hey, a cheesehead. Even if they tell you to as a joke. Jimmy Kimmel is going to do a,

that sounded like a hard cut. Jimmy Kimmel is going to interview us today. He's a friend of the show. You've done his show a lot. I've done his show a lot. Guest hosted. He's a great dude. You've guest hosted too.

And Jimmy, we thought of this weird idea where we get all these questions. So why doesn't someone interview us? It might slow us down from talking over our guests in the future. I don't think it will. I've practiced, you know, during the holiday break, I practice talking over. Like my wife would say something. I just jump in.

You know, she goes, what are you doing? I'm just practicing talking over. I know. I took a cutoff class on learning annex and I'd practice it at Thanksgiving dinner. I'd just stop everyone in their tracks. I go, so the story about me. I'm gonna go.

Actually, the truth is I would listen. I go, during the holiday break, you should listen to the podcast. Every time I talk, I said, out loud, shut the fuck up. What are you doing? If I hear a couple of me on the thing, I'm like, even when they show those little beginnings, like a minute of audio to promote it, I go,

what, can I just shut the fuck? Because the guest goes, well, I like pancakes, and then I do seven minutes of how I like pancakes before they can answer that they forget. So anyway, we never said we were good at this. We're going into season two with Jimmy Kimmel, but people ask, well, how did we go on an SNL? What's our story? So Jimmy really asked the tough stuff. He digs the, he minds a lot of gold,

some silver, and some sand up to you to decide. He came at it a little different, right? Because we feel like we've told this story and other podcasts, but he actually really worked hard. He had a stack of notes. And asked this a lot of intense questions and a lot, asked us a lot about hosts, which was an interesting take. Yeah, at first I didn't know if he knew he was interviewing us because it was like he was just sitting there and I go, is he being interviewed? He's being interviewed. Yeah, but I was like ready for the hard stuff and it was really like Prince Harry and

Meghan. Here's a tease. He and Mary were saying. We really sang. Definitely because I won't say the name of the host. You'll listen to it in the podcast. Of a host of SNL. Yes or no, did they host? And I said no, and they had host.

Oh, he was doing that. When I was a cast member. But I won't say it, so you have to listen to find out. Yeah, of course. All do respect to that person. Or I forgot it's only I spaced out. Sorry. So listen to it.

Here it is. We've talked enough. And here we are talking a little more. How do we start? What's our theme? Our yesterday is you want me to start James Edward Kimmel. I don't we've already started we've been on for four minutes. Oh, we have okay. Well, I think we should establish that first of all I've never been on

Saturday Night Live. I've only been to see the show in person one time and that was in May of last year. Other times I've been there, but I get stuck in the office with a bunch of agents and stuff. I'm on TV if there is. Nobody's watching the show or everybody's just talking to each other and it's depressing, but did get to go to see the show in May. So of course, I'm a guest that people are probably super interested in hearing from. Did you ever harbor desires? Did you answer it?

Yeah, you could be an update guy or whatever. Gosh, I don't have, I never set my sights that high. That never, that's not ever would have occurred to me. Yeah. I was just a morning radio dish, Jackie hoping to continue being a morning radio dish, Jackie. And what, what was your handle?

Sorry. I was, I was known as Jimmy. They called me. Jimmy and the Japanese animal as a sidekick, Jimmy in the bowl or Jimmy in the Tomcat here at the, I was animal, as a sidekick, Jimmy and the bull, or Jimmy and the Tomcat here at the, I was on in LA, I worked in a lot of markets. I started in Vegas when I was in high school.

Then I went to Phoenix, I worked at a radio station, there a couple of them, then I got a job in Seattle, worked at a classic rock station, got fired there, went to a station and I went back to live with my parents for a while, then went to a station in, I went back to live with my parents for a while, then went to a station in Tampa, Florida. I worked in Palm Springs, Tucson, Arizona, finally LA at K-Rock with Kevin and Bean. And I was the sports guy there, it was Jimmy the sports guy. Sports guy.

You know, it seems like a lot of people radio good fired. It was actually made. Well, what a memory. Maybe the most. Maybe the most. Yeah, I a memory. Maybe the most. Maybe the most. Yeah, I got fired a lot of times. And the worst thing about being fired in radio is you then have to move from the city.

You don't just like get another job at another radio station. You're pretty much done. Yeah. I got fired a lot too. We'll get into that. You do. Everything. Everything failed and everything sucked.

But these were probably childhood jobs that you got fired from right? No, this is like television shows and stuff. Oh, okay. Well, I'm not, you know what? I appreciate you guys being interested in me, but I'm here today to interview you guys because you guys interview all these people about Silent Life.

And as far as I understand, you guys were on Silent Life. Now, I'm not done a ton of research, but you were what the Jesus woman? Jesus woman was her original name. Yes, hey, and David. Did you know Chris Farley? Hi, Jimmy goes I wasn't one show this year you guys weren't on it. I don't get what's going on What happened? This is a frog. Yeah, she said well, I'm sure that sure is special was her catchphrase. Oh, oh Yeah, yeah, remember that. Ripically not quite good. But anyway, yes, everyone wants to know how do we get on the show? How do you get on the show? How do you get on the show? How do you get on it now? That's what people ask me when they're leaving like a restaurant quickly. How do you get

on sunny live? And I go, oh, do you have an hour 10? Because people want those quick. Quickly, how do you get into acting? You get those but for 25 years after being off the show I'd still get even today. Are you still you still on that that Saturday night live show? Do you really get well at least for 10 years after you're right? Yeah, wow people don't keep track Yeah, people do you think people the world revolves around you and yet it yeah, and I told my mom It's pretty obvious that I'm off the show You My mom, it's pretty obvious that I'm off the show. Good night. Anyway. Come on. Come on, guy. We have a crush.

How do we fucking? You wouldn't think so. Not a pressure when you got a crowd. I know audience, there's no pressure. I know you guys have told these stories before, but I think it seems right to start with, how did you get on the show? Like I was going to start with David. How did you get on the show?

I was born in Michigan. Uh-huh. I'm gonna go way back. What I was told. That had to happen before you got on the show. I think it takes so many steps to get seen by in front of someone like Lorna, his talent people. It was stand up around here at the improv forever.

Arizona first, then stand up around here. And then we got to, I think the big thing was I got on HBO young comedian special and when you do that that's something that's that's national and then someone in the town department saw it and Rob Schneider was on it also so I was in the and the you know, vortex of hey, there's about 10-20 people we should maybe look at this year. So we were brought out for an audition, Robin, I did it together and did a stand-up comedy club in New York. When you say you did it together, you did individual performances? Yes, you're working as a team. Yeah, and Robin, I weren't a team, but we, uh, the same management and we, uh, we're, we're buddies and we knew

Sandler, we knew Judd Avettel, we knew a lot of guys were doing stand-up with who eventually, you know, like Sandler eventually got on pretty quickly after that. So we went out audition with another comic and did okay, not great, but they were looking at the writing, and then they hired us as writer performers. So you submitted a packet of sketchy God Lord Jesus. They were looking at the writing as far as jokes

that you were doing your stand up. And Dennis Miller told me, you don't wanna kill two hearts, but it's fucking red flag. I don't think so. Yeah, they want to mold you a little bit. You come in at 11, you know, they kind of back off from that, like it's a hot plate. Yeah, they got to waste scout, Jamboree, all right?

They don't give you a polished road hack. I love doing Dennis, because my IQ goes up. And my vocabulary expands. Jesus, I'm flying the wall, huh? Okay, that's a catchy moniker for something. And everyone loves those insums. And no offense, David, but Dana, it seems like it's like your talent.

It's very obvious why you got the job. I mean, because David says the funny guy, you know, he's not doing stuff, character, really right. No, you're right. It wasn't as easy as you would think based on my own personality or insecurity. I mean, it's not doing stuff character. No, you're right. You're right. It wasn't as easy as you would think based on my own personality or insecurity. I mean, it's a longer story. But basically the brass tax was,

I did a kind of catacall addition at the punchline in San Francisco. Al Franken was at that one. Years later, years later, like eight years later, he said, yeah, I, uh, I kind of blew it. I should have taken you, you know, but I, I was just passed over there. Uh-huh. Then I, I don't know the exact dates, but a few years before I got the show, then there was a giant 25 comic, jamboree at the comedy store. Cattle call. Cattle call. No MC, five minutes.

Boom, boom, boom, in that original room, which is like a death room, like just six. Who else was there at either of my years? Well, I remember who I followed at midnight, a very young, very energetic man by the name of Sam Kennisin. So Sam goes on, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah, ah,

I mean, he literally levitates the room. It's shaking, it's just scorched earth. That's Pete Kenison, probably as good as it's ever been. And Sam was hoping to get on Saturday Night Live. Maybe he hosted the first season, but then there's like, and then I never got my name right now, Dana Flauncrabba.

So I go up there and I die, I die a death. Well, isn't that special? I'm trying to do characters death null. So that's, then that puts me in a depression for two months. In those days you didn't call it. So you don't get it even though you were good. It would be just a day. I just bombed.

I didn't, you couldn't follow Kenison in five minutes, trying to establish a rapport. And I felt very, very nervous, which isn't a good thing. So then, frequently in 86, they were casting again, because 85 had a rough year. And my management team, new Lord Michaels, and so forth and so on. And so it came around to me, and I go,

okay, I'm not gonna do it at the improv or the comedy store. I'm gonna do it at Igbees on the west side. It's gone now, but it was a hundred seat tight packed crowd. I'd played there a lot, I kind of had a following. So, okay, Lauren wants us to you. So, I called Rosalind Donald is headlining that week. I'd never met her.

But the owner said, you want to, Dana's going to bring Lauren Michaels. Can you fit him in? So, I went there, my wife and our driving there, and I'm as nervous as a human being could be. I didn't have the confidence I got later. Just thinking, oh man, this is it. I auditioned a lot, I've been in LA a lot,

and we went to get some gas, our car was out, and there was no gas in the gas station, we just both remembered that for years. And we don't have gas here, what do you mean? We don't have gas, no gas. So it's just one of those things you remember when you're scared out of mine. So I go there, I meet Rosio Donald,

and she seems like her maturity and confidence, like she's 50 years old. She was completely fully formed, just, hey, what do you want to do? So we kind of drew straws, or talked about it, I'll go on first. But this time I get 40 minutes with a real audience, not an industry audience. And so I'm waiting off to the side, just like, well, let's see what see what happens.

And I see, I don't know what order they came in. I think it was Brandon Tartikoffel. I think Lauren C. And he said, Brent, the head of the network, Lauren Michaels, and I'm like, fuck, and then it's share. What?

It's share. She got a vote? Because I didn't have enough pressure on me. She's Ty Breaker. But they walked like from behind a curtain. Here he is, the head of the network, Brandon Tarnagall. And the guy who discovers all comedians, Lor Michaels. And of course, that is a gentleman.

He's share. He can't do more. Yeah. Do you believe in me? You know, so she's singing it down. The gentleman, he's share. He can't do it. He can't do it. Do you believe in her? You know, so she's singing and down. So anyway, I go up, at that point, I had turned down a pilot spin-off from punky Brewster two years before,

called Fenster Hall for $30,000. I finally said I can't take the punishment anymore, because I was being cast a lot as a Q see nice 30 grand For the pilot Wow, so then I just did stand up like crazy in San Francisco all over it So I was in pretty good shape. I would give my set like a C C minus, but Lauren says later. I was always thinking already thinking about how to use you on the show So you'd have to believe that if Brandon comes to the audition, and you know, these executives

don't want to go to anything ever and Lauren comes and then they say to share, hey, why don't you join us? Well, they probably, you probably were in pretty good shape going into that. They gave me confidence. Brillstein, Gray, Mark Gervitz, Bernie Brilstein came to see me a month before this. Bernie, if people are listening now, was kind of like a big, lovable teddy bear Santa Claus in those days, he's probably 50, but he seemed like the old timer of all time. He saw me, and I'd seen people pass me over a lot.

He saw me and went, we're not even gonna give him the sound I live. He's a fucking movie star. That was a direct quote. But I go, I kind of want to be on sound I live. It's only my childhood dream. So I got, I had to let go of this management before who didn't want me to do the church lady. I got standing ovation in the comedy magic club

that got me in the back room and they said, you gotta stop doing the church lady. It was onlyannied ovation economy magic that got me in the back room nesid you got to stop doing the church lady is only five minutes out of a ninety-minute set at that point they go you come off gay and that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that that I was able to, yeah, we don't want them around here. So they, I was able to jettison that management company.

I, that's all right and go with Brillstein Gray and, and Gurrets, Brillstein Entertainment Partners. And that changed everything for me and then the Iggbees. And then I had to dish another time a week later or something. And I thought Jim Carrey was there. I know I met Phil Hartman, and we had to go do the audition kind of like they do in eight-h. It was just ten people and me up there doing stick for everybody. And Lauren would kind of tilt you, I think, to test you.

Do you think those terribly tense situations are hurdles that they want to see if you can clear those hurdles? Because ultimately you are going to have to be on want to see if you can clear those hurdles because ultimately you are gonna have to be on the show live and you can't let them down. Yes, in that situation where you're kind of vulnerable up there and I knew Dennis Miller, he was sitting there in Noradon and Lauren would kind of dig at you a little bit.

We've seen enough of that, do you have anything else? You know, right in the middle of your audition. And I think it was a test to see, when the red light comes on and it's 20 million, three, two, one, your life, your career, your family, all your loved ones counting on you, boom, can you deliver. So, you know, but if I could, it was just from the 10,000 hours in a club. Dana, actually, a different path, obviously, more built for SNL and me. And when he went out, his first show was cold opening shirts. And the lead guy in a lot of sketches, I was worked in almost too slowly.

So it was more frustrating to go a year after a year writing for these guys, writing, helping, writing update jokes, getting in the background. So by the time I go on, it's not quite as terrifying, but still still terrifying. But as I'm sure for Dana, just that first time, even though he's a seasoned performer, it's way, way different to this. Well, the one thing that really matters. More people see you that first sketch than you're all of your stand-up combined in your whole life. Yeah. My entry in there was 86. So that was pre-18 cast members. So they purged the year before we had John Loveitt's Phil Hartman myself as the primary men. And then we had Nora Dunn and Jan Hux, the late grade and Victoria Jackson. How many, that was it? Six cast members. Six main

cast members. I mean, Kevin Neillin as a future and A Whitney Brown, Dennis Miller. So then when I got on the first show that I was there for a month, I was at Lauren Michaels' house for a month too, which is a whole nother story, but I worked on the church lady character, but it wasn't, I, no one knew if it would work or kill or anything. Lauren moved you into his home,

is that cause you were coming off? Well, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I got, I Well, I got. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. Ha, ha, ha. It's just honor saying you are gay, but you come off gay.

See how it feels. I don't know. It's that thing of like, you know, people are gonna wander and it's good if like, they really know where you're coming from. What? I need a decorator. He, I don't know, David spent time. I spent a month in Long Island at Lawrence House

in, in, in Amaghan set with, with, with Lauren. And Paul McCartney came over and all the Chevy Chase was there. And I'd never been on television. He adopted you. Basically, yeah, you can have Jack's room. So I was in where Jack Nicholson would hang out. Oh.

I'm calling my friends back in San Francisco. I'm staying in Jack Nicholson's room. Paul McCartney and Chevy Chase are here. How are you doing? You know, wow. So just to go back, a couple of steps if I could. Yes. When you guys are, like you're talking about David, auditioning with Rob, who's your friend,

and you're auditioning with 25 other people, who at some of whom I assume are your friends. What is it like when you get that job, and then those people you auditioned with and came up with don't? You know it worked a little different for us because I didn't really know anyone who didn't get it Um, I really I met everyone you know People wanted to know David I was new I was newer in town and just you know doing the improv and not in the comedy store It said no to me. so I had the improv.

And I didn't know that many people were auditioning or got that call like Rob and I did, but I knew a lot of comedians, but there was one, he mentioned Brandon Tartekoff, who was the most powerful person in town, if you remember back then. He had Cosby show. Every big show was on, and they said he saw you

do five one night at the show. He wants to meet you and maybe give you a development deal and make a show for you. And I was freaking out. I saw Kevin Pollock that day before and he goes, this is a huge, this will be your biggest break. So they give me sides. I didn't know if I told you this day. They give me sides which is a little bit of a script. I don't even know what sides are. And I had to go to a coach and just say, hey, coach me to read this shitty script. It's just like one scene. They just have to see like, I'm in the vicinity of knowing what I'm doing.

And they're going to give me some money to try to make a show for me. So this mother fucking head of casting was there. So it was every big shot of NBC. I'm waiting shaking in the, you know, and then the waiting room of NBC. And we used to call him Tarter Sauce. I go, I go, it's Tarter Sauce here. I can't wait all day. So I'm waiting and then they go,

I think it was Dennis something. He comes up and he goes, oh, they're gonna see you. It'll just be a second. There's one more person there having meeting with him. By the way, we're not doing that scene anymore. We're doing this one. And he hands me a script. It could have been in Chinese. I didn't know what the fuck is going to go. What do you mean? I read this one

And I didn't have any coaching so I was so new. I just walked in and read it to them And then they go thank you and that was it nothing I got nothing no development deal bad feedback And I had to go in and do two years of classes because and Rob was in it with me and because I go I don't know enough and I thought I was Eddie Murphy just like oh I'm just funny what do you need really to know and I knew and I had to do so much just to start getting auditions again fucking Dennis God so it's always there yeah it wasn't that it was Dennis head of casting and I was just it was like slow motion worries which is the scripts I like of casting and I was just it was like slow motion

Switches the scripts. I like it this one. I probably turned it up to an anniversary's like no, it's this way You know, I'm in a funny looking back now now. No, you've got no. I'm doing the other one Yeah, I know I know this one, but no confidence at all. Just like do like you are told I should have taken the two years of acting lessons I I once read for Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward I once read for Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward for Tonto and son and they would pair us off. The gay kid. Yes. Yeah. And I was with this really good actress and they paired us off and then you'll Paul Newman

was so charming and she had a little dog and he had red socks on and I bombed so bad that I ruined it for her. I mean, it was and then I took her down. We walked outside and I go that was kind of I ruined it for her. I mean, it was, and then I, I can't, we walked outside and I go, that was kind of weird and she goes, yeah, yeah, it was kind of fucking weird. And then she got in the elevator, you know, can I do it with someone else?

I was so bad I destroyed other careers. It was not a good, but I did a lot of shit like that. Who did you leave behind Dana? Who is your comedy friend? Well, I would say that Kevin Pollock, we did a lot of stand up together, you know, great impressionist, great actor. He, the, the planets never lined up for him, but I thought he would be, you know, they did elsewhere, obviously. Obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But that, that would have been a natural fit for Kevin.

Did you go when you guys were in there, were you pushing for your friends? Oh, no, the guy was not immediate. You want to get to hire people that you felt you could compete or dominate. You didn't want to hire anyone that good. You didn't want Jim carrying there. Yeah, I don't know. Is that true? Is that true? Are you I mean, is that is there some truth to that? Well, you have no control over that. First of all, I know that it came down to I think for the final spot, you know, Lauren, as I remember and said, well, maybe somebody tall like Chevy, and I had been living with Kevin Neeland where I met him before I got on SNL. Somebody tall. Somebody tall. That's what I remember. And I go, I know a tall guy. Not even that funny.

Just really tall. So Rick Overton was right in the lane, the great Rick Overton was right there. So Kevin flies out and with his kind of, his style, he was just standing in his height. God was he tall. Still is. Yeah. He's one of the talls, he means that's the...

Lawrence, you're hired. Hanting started doing his comedy. We want you because you're tall. But anyway, that Kevin nailed it. It just standing there. His standup is so casual. You didn't even know when he starts or he ends. And he killed, and I think Lauren in those days

did it a little bit like a sitcom. Like you don't, you want these different flavors. Like Phil had his lane, love it's had his lane. I did my thing, then Kevin. Well, that you have sketches, you go, okay, who's gonna to play the dad? You know what I mean? That's a legitimate thing you don't think of.

Phil's just going to a dad every time. Game show host is going to be Phil. Right. If no one else is around. Exactly, that's it. He was the glue. I think it was my nickname doesn't have to be. We called him the glue because he kind of held the show together.

He couldn't. I called him the sticky stuff. Oh, problem. He said, Dana, is there a microphone? Oh, no. No, she might have always had mic problems. By the way, when I got there, it was me and Robbie, and then we were suggesting maybe writers, Fred Wolf, and some other people, and then Sandler,

was I think our first and we kind of pushed. Because Farley and Chris Rock came right after us. So we did four shows. I'm where Dennis goes. Dennis is like tough love dad. He goes, and you better get something on it. They're gonna get rid of one of you, dude. So I mean, fuck him.

You don't bring a guy back. You can't write for shit. I'm like, four shows. And I thought, oh, that'll be easy. Meanwhile, you can't even look like you have a decent script that read through. Everyone's like, it just so stands out as shitty, you know, until you know what's going on.

And you're competing. It's all these great writers. So we have four, then we do the summer, we do come back, but when I walk in, that's rockin' farly. So now those guys get to be our crew. Sandler gets there maybe three months later. So about pushing for Sandler,

I would just say, yeah, this guy kills and he does well. I didn't know, I had barely any influence there, but just one more voice saying, he's great, y yo creo que el mundo se ha hecho. No sé, yo no sé si hay influencia. Pero solo una más buena creación, que es tan grande y que el Sandler es un par de todas las cosas que suena. ¿Qué crees que ha sido Sandler? ¿Estás hablando de su carrera? Sí, lo que se llama Sandu.

¿S Sandman? Sí. Hay cosas que te dejan pensando como por qué los vostéisos son contagiosos, pero MailChimp no. MailChimp analiza los datos de millones de correos electrónicos para ofrecer recomendaciones personalizadas para mejorar el contenido de tus correos electrónicos, segmentar tu público, entre muchas cosas más adivina menos y vende más con intuity MailChimp. La marca número 1 en email marketing y automatización. Empezado hoy mismo en MailChimp.com. Vas a vender a tus públicos de marcas competidoras

en número globales de clientes en 2021-2022. ¿Qué es eso? ¿Qué es algo que me parece que es increíble que Adam Sandler fue released de ese show? ¿Es que es fair de decir que él fue fired? Sí, yo no me he visto como un año antes. Porque... Cuando él se creó... Farley y Sandler eran tan grandes en el show. ¿Ya, ¿no? Is it fair to say he was fired from the show? I didn't even know that honestly to like a year ago, because when he harvested,

he turned the fire. And Sandler was so big on the show. Yeah, and he did hear this. I heard he was fired, but sometimes I think things just peter out like, had he done Billy Madison? Was he kind of on his way? He had done big movies and so it's farly, it was time. I should have just gone, but they were going to something

and I wasn't, so I said, I'm gonna stay another year, but then that felt like I was. But you were invited to something and I wasn't. So I said, I'm gonna stay another year, but then that felt like I was. But you were invited to stay another year. And it is, it seems so crazy. I was and they weren't, yeah. No, not that, but that Adam Salar was on quite a busy, one of the most popular. Well, he was, I think he was too big a star.

And maybe he got fired for being too big a star. I don't know if he got fired. I don't really know. He says he got fired. do you want to get on the mic for a second manager? Did he get fired over you heard Mark and uh, far away too. But it seemed it seems the same. But I'll tell you Adam was a man with a plan from day one. I mean he would even before he started to score on the show. He started doing stuff with Robert Smigle and he goes yeah, he's a great writer, Carvey. I'm going gonna put him in all my movies. And I was like, what?

You just got here. Adam had, for whatever reason, he had Frank Sinatra confidence. And I asked him once, where did it come from? He said, my dad would always be, go to the Little League game. Adam was a pretty good player, but he goes, his dad would go, look at that kid.

That's a ball player. That's a ball player. And then his mom, when Sinatra would come on, she'd say, you're better. You're better than Sinatra. So he had both sides. If you can try to create someone with that drive and talent. But yeah, it's funny.

A lot of comics, they do it to prove their parents wrong, but it sounds like I had them at the entire opposite. You're not a good baseball player. You're a human god. I don't know, maybe for people out there with a baby. You need one cheerleader, hopefully. My mom was a huge cheerleader, and my dad was gone. Anyway, Dana, but you don't have a daddy issue.

My dad unfortunately stayed. And there was a monster in the neighborhood, and it was dad. My dad, when I told him I got a radio job in Seattle, which was a big market and this is all I wanted. I was in college at the time, not really going to class at all. And I said, I got a job in Seattle. My father said, I'll pay you $200 a week

to stay here at home. Oh wow. Because he didn't think radio was a classic. He missed you. I don't know, they just didn't want me leaving the house and uh... luckily i said no i think i'm gonna move how many of you take my college? college and there your dad was don't go all pay you the hang out with me

we can watch tv Jimmy! i'd sell you there making eight hundred dollars a month but you came from a loving secure family all things considered yes very much that explains a lot. Yeah, yeah. Well, you seem like a well centered, happy person. We're wounded little clowns. That's what I had five years of therapy. I need five more.

I'm powder-cated. It sounds like though. You found a real father figure in Lauren, who I still can't believe he moved you into his house. I mean, he must have taken an extreme liking to you. He would sit on my lap, I would sit in his lap, and we'd be the puppet. Can you imagine moving someone you just auditioned

and hired into your home weird? So he's come out, you guys here right now. You know, he, I guess he did take a liking to me. When I first met with him alone in a room, he goes, but for someone here, he goes off on things. You know, for someone you want to have dinner with, you know, when it comes to the cast, for someone here, it goes off on things. You know, someone you want to have dinner with, you know, when it comes to the cast.

For someone who came in, I thought they're like, really, really talented, but there was something about their shoes. And then I looked out of my shoes, I guess they passed the test. But he did literally say, I couldn't have them because of those, you know, high-top kids on a grown man don't work.

Has he, to your your knowledge allowed anyone else who on the cast to live in his home? People have gone there for... Gone there's one thing. Well, I moved in there for a month, but Whitney would come and go, I don't know if he stayed there, Chevy Chase, Whitney Brown, do you remember here?

Yeah, Whitney Brown. Really funny because the night that Paul came there and nervously played a song for us, it was Chevy, Lauren, me, and Whitney, and then Paul and Linda. When you said Paul, you mean McCartney, not Schaefer. No, no, no. I'm sorry that people would be either.

Well, I thought it'd play a little thing for you. I don't know if it's any good, you know. And he leaned into me, right as the song started. I guess he had a CD. He goes, sometimes when you're writing, you try so hard to live up to whatever. You end up ruining the fucker. This is him saying it to me. Right as the song goes on. So he's very vulnerable. The song plays. There's a pause. A. Whitney Brown goes, sounds like Julian Lennon. Sounds like Julian Lennon. And Lauren said, Paul would still mention that years later.

Is the fellow who thinks they sound like Julian Lennon? That's not damn. Is she gonna be around, you know, because I'd like to go to the other side of the tunnel. I'm already starting out with a regular. We're all wounded. He couldn't have said anything. Sounds like Julian Lennon.

That's crazy. So anyway, that happened. I went to dinner there once. So, you know, I don't know if you remember this, Jim. Well, for Howard, I did the Beths cat charity and his stand-up. I'm sure, Adam. So Howard and Beth came and Lauren and some people were there.

Some celebrities. We were talking about Howard Stern. Peppered Brown, Howard Stern. And so doing this charity show, but I was extra nervous because it was very small and there's a lot of those people and they don't seem to do stand up and it was kind of scary.

So anyway, there's Lauren and then they see them, do they go, should we hold for Jack? And they'll say, oh no, he's not coming in the fucking front row, is he? So they don't hold, now my whole set, I'm like, where the fuck is Jack? He's missing my Southwest bit. And so, so then afterwards Lauren goes dinner at the house.

And I was like, oh, the one Dana stays at? So I was staying. So I go, Dana's not there right now, is he? So it was called Dana's room. Two years ago. So I go over and we have dinner and then there's an FDC again, and then Jack does come in and sit down. How was it?

I missed it. Yes, it was two hours ago. Yeah. It passed the meatballs. So he ate and was very fun. So that was my big, worn house, but it was a, it was a time run. But he didn't invite you to stay for 29 more days. Tires?

Just that. I have bunk beds. Yeah. Dan, does he keep the room as you left it? Like my mother has my, it's very nice. He's like two single beds and one more and I came in and he was making the bed. It just I want the pitilored to sit right. To Dan has got a soccer trophy. Like, oh, Lord, you don't have to do this. Where I feel like I'm

your dad. You're really 10 years old and it can happen in different countries. Third world, there can be a 10 year old father. Did you? Who was better at pitching sketches to learn out of us? Yeah. I don't remember really. You didn't really pitch. You pitch him in the meeting. You know, we have all't remember really. You didn't really pitch. We pitch him in the meeting. You know, we have all the other writers. So you're really trying to. You're on his there or no?

Lauren is there. It's Monday. Yeah. Everyone's packed in his little office and there's usually a nervous host sitting in a chair. So it's Lauren and the host facing this way. Lauren behind his desk, host in a big chair. Everyone is sitting on the floor, chairs, couches standing,

jammed, boiling hot. And then Lauren just like has a, you know, certs or twizz learning. Go, David, anything for Tom Hanks? And then he just goes through. And then you go, oh, and you have a little legal pad and you go, I was thinking maybe you're, you know, you play Sully, but you're just, up. Do you work harder on the Tom Hanks pitches than on let's say Kyle McClocklin? Well, I always do fake pitches because, right? Because if you pitch it in the room

and then the idea the bubble's been burst, you want to save it for real. Or all strategy. So it'd be like, I'm going to be a dancing popsicle with John Loveitz and we sing a song. You know, and that's just a fake pitch. Then people laugh. And then you go, that's the fake one, but then sometimes the host comes around to your room later and goes, are you are you the one that working on the dancing

popsicle, but then you go, oh, uh, no. And then like, I love that. And you're like, that was a fucking fake. And you go, Michael Jordan relax. Yeah. You're not going to play. Were you guys both there on Michael Jordan hosted the show? Oh, yeah.

Was he in that Monday meeting? Yeah, he had it. Was there did the whole, the whole run, the whole thing? Was there, were there any buffer people who were like, oh no, yeah, Michael's not gonna do that. Michael will do that. It was just Michael. Are the buffer people allowed in those meetings? Because we deal with buffer people a lot. Sure. Really? And the buffer people often do a disservice to the people who are who need to get the laughs on the show. Like, so they never hear the actual idea. They never hear the love before it gets to them.

He can't do that because he was divorced in 1975. And you're like, eh, it doesn't really have anything to do with that. I think he would think it's funny. Let him decide. Well, the really fascinating thing for me that week with Michael Jordan was that, you know, it's a fish out of water, the greatest player ever, but he's got a lot of sketches. And we're about to go out in the live show in a sketch and he's got some heavy dialogue and you're behind the slats, the bands playing, the audiences there.

And I could tell, you know, he had the script in his hand for the last minute jamming. And I could tell he kind of had caught him out. There was a little tense. And I said, Michael, just go out there and read it right off the cue card. Christopher Walken does it. Don't even worry about that. And it kind of trying to calm Michael Jordan down about anything. Was it unique such as Sting too.

Sting would be like, how's my hair? We're going into an elevator sketch. How's it now? I like Sting in the elevator. It looks good. Well, that now. It looked better before. Fuck. But who is the most nervous of the host?

Rosanna R. Cat Rosanna cat was most nervous. I know nice. She was a little emotional. She was great, but I remember you'd hear that someone was sobbing somewhere. Uh-huh. Yeah. And whatever host was full nervous breakdown. We're broken down with Steven Seagull. You would just go by his office and you just hear you know you'd hear it. It's some woman having an orgasm right? That's all you'd hear you'd go by. They come out and fluff up. I hope there was a woman in there. I think sometimes Friday night is the night to collapse. If you are even on the show even when I went back to host Friday night is the night when the host go you're joking the sets aren't even all built yet

and all the lines are different from read through we haven't even rehearsed all of them once the show is tomorrow and that's if they cry or have a Break down because they go we can't do this and everyone's like so rarely it seems like it should happen more Oh every almost every Saturday night, especially the dress shows would go longer and longer most every Saturday night, especially the dress shows would go longer and longer, where you're still doing the practice show and it's like 10.45, and the real show goes on to 45 minutes. I go, they're gonna put up an old movie tonight. We're never gonna make it.

This is the worst thing. When you start hoping for an earthquake or something. Anything. At the emption of some kind. Jim Downey who had such ADD, he would write really, really well like at 11, like right outside the office. He needed to get right after.

No, you cannot procrastinate for one more second. You give you five gems at like, or they'd say it's in the cards. When you're going on to a set, it'll be in the cards. You're going to live really. That's how I order dinner. I look at the menu and everybody orders, they come to me last time like, okay, I'll have the brand Zeno. I have to order now. Yeah, time's up. Yeah, that's how some of these people I'm looking through a list of some of the people who hosted the shows when you were both on and

some of these people like have no business hosting a show like this. I mean really I think this might have been right before you were on, David, but George Steinbrunner hosted the show with Morris Day in the time. Yeah, I have more. I have more. Stay in the time. He had funny combos like that. Steinbrunner is a New York institution and that's what Lauren, if you're a New York centric, someone from a plague can get it.

He loves New York and his friends are from New York. So he likes to go, we got the lead from, but there was a run there where we had the second, the third lead from some show that was instead of the third. Here's the secret of the show, in my opinion. I figured it out yesterday. When it's good, it's good, when it's bad, it's good.

So you're watching this billionaire owner of a baseball team try to do sketch comedy. And he sucks, not his fault. I find that really compelling to watch live and watch people. You find it disheartening when Kim Kardashian is on and she's funny and you go, okay, what are we now? I mean, I saw her monologue and said, what the fuck? Yeah, like, what are we?

Are we ventriloquist puppets? Yeah. Well, here's the thing when you When you become that famous and your comedy bit is all about the entire audience knows what you're talking about But she landed that beautifully and Chris rock did say Monologue in the year About Kim Kardashian. Yeah, it was really good. It's just crush also. It's out of nowhere So you get extra points because she scored so hard as part of me did die. Yeah, Kardashian. Yeah, it was really good. And it was just crushed. Also, it's out of nowhere, so you get extra points.

Yeah, because she scored so hard. It was hard, and me did die. Yeah, right. Yeah. That's kind of what I don't like about what those celebrity roasts became, because it went from being a bunch of comics goofing on somebody they presumably knew,

to famous people reading lines, a bunch of mean comedy writers handed to them. Meanest, angriest comedy writers. Yeah, the meanest, angriest. What I don't like about that show, but Jeff Ross is great. The show's kind of brilliant, right? But I'm watching, like Jeff Ross,

yeah, this is his master at it. He's a master at it, but I watch it and I'm like, ha ha ha, the person who's being roasted is ha ha ha with relaxed eyes, kind of, ha, ha, ha, ha. And then at some point you see the shot where there's wounded pain behind you. Whoever is being roasted, it's like, you mean Chevy, right? You're talking about Chevy. Chevy was the original.

He was the fountain. Wasn't either one where I washed and I said, oh, these guys don't even know him. And it was, it went from Dean Martin Luther. No, no, they knew him. It was fun. And they were like, Don Rickles, I go, Dean, we've drank together and they do a little joke. It was like, sometimes you wake up and your hair looks messy and then I'm like, ah, but it got so rough over the years.

But they don't know each other. So you're just, Chevy's looking down at some guy who doesn't know and they're like, hey, you fucking asshole. Look over here and they're like, are you talking to me? And then you're like, how are these people have any business talking to a huge star like this and then really taking their legs out? Well, yeah, although I think it may be. You love it.

Says something about the person when his friends who are funny don't come to rust roast him. So maybe it means like they're like, oh man, he's not going to take this well or maybe they're just like, I don't know. Have you been roasted? Do you want to be roasted? No, no, I've roasted, but I have not been roasted. But you always get roasted while you're in the vicinity.

Yeah, if you're in the room and I've done like five or six of those, you get roasted. And yeah, sometimes, I mean, sometimes you get like, like, I don't know, Jeff Ross was in the elevator with Drew Carrey. And Drew said, it was one of the early, early roasts he goes, so who's on the, who's roasting tonight? And he goes, it was the night before he says, so Jimmy Kimmel, Adam Karola and Drew Carrey goes, anybody funny? And Jeff of course reported this to me immediately

and I stayed up all night writing the most vicious Drew Carrey jokes. I mean, I've laid him, I tore his skin off his body. See, that's why he was a success. That's why he was like, Jesus Christ. He didn't know where it came. Mummy's probably just joking, you know. That's, that's the key.

I remember old Pam Anderson one, I go, she asked me to do it. And I said, I'll send a video. I was the roast master. Okay, I think I sent a video in because I'm changing my lie. I think, I think, I sent a video in because I go, I don't know in the room, I just don't wanna really be there because you can call it in the crossfire. And I think that was the said a video and because I go I don't know in the room I just don't really be there because you get caught in the crossfire and I think that was one where they go

Sping of an awards Andy dick is here in the spotlight goes and he's like what the fuck I'm the audience I don't know I can get it. I was in the parking garage I call you at home. Yeah, he was he ever funny, you know, I'm like down the block of sardis speaking of when you're talking about Sarah I live and have one guy has to be the dad one person has to be a mom etc Was he ever funny? You know, I'm like down the block, it's sardis. Speaking of when you're talking about Saturday, I'm like, I have one guy has to be the dad, one person has to be a mom, et cetera. That's kind of how those roasts are in that, like, you know, somebody's got to be the slut,

someone's got to be old, somebody's got to be over, you know. And who is the mic dropper of consistently? I mean, nor do I know it's not gonna be like Donald got famous for going against it with his corny jokes, which was hysterical, but Ross is the ultimate. He's like, he's the roast master. Why the Sturick got some good ones in on that one, roast. Yeah, but that's annoying, right?

I mean, she did, she doesn't remember any of those jokes. She got their recipes. You say this and then she didn't look at yours. Yeah, the context of it. Some of these people, Jimmy Smith and World Party were on. Was I there for that? Spades first episode. That must have made quite an impression on you. What, I remember. He was skilled, he was good. I don't remember tons about that one.

Most shows is really depressing because you go to read, my first read thread did life alert. I wrote it for Jan Hooks. I didn't know you should probably put the host in. I just thought, you can write for the cast, the host. You learn later if the host isn't, it's got a better chance. Because the host is partially picking.

So I write it for Jan Hooks, who is like a host, because she's so great. And it was like an old lady that was sad because Life Alert, she was lonely, so she keep calling life alert. I fall and I can't get up and they come over and she goes, I put my hand in the toaster and it's on dark, hurry. And so they, anyway, then she just wanted to hang out with them. So it does, it was fourth and read through,

which is another thing. Early and read through out of 44 sketches is good. You have attention for about 10. And then people doze off into like the last one they wake up. So fourth is good. It gets a lot. I'm a new writer. It doesn't get on. It gets close. And then after that, I kind of really whiffed. I had to have Conan, Odaker, I keep asking him on how do I write this? How many are too many sets to write? The script is 48 pages long. They're like, no, no, no, it's got to be tighter. So I'm just free-balling. I don't know one thing.

I helped you to most the most with editing. You know, those guys got to be tighter. So I'm just free-balling. I don't know one thing. He helped you the most with editing. You know, those guys, you know, Rob and I would sometimes write together and then we were both, you know, don't know shit. So we're freshmen. And then I would say, Downey, you wanted his attention the most. Smigel, Odin Kirk and, you know, Jack Handy wrote so brilliantly, but it's a different out of my full time.

You take a bath on Sunday and be all done. And you know, Jack Handy wrote so brilliantly, but it's a different on a long time. You take a bath on Sunday and be all done. And, you know, and I can't go to the, he would, these are, these are your, you know, the, the turners are there who are great. Everywhere you turn is, is a great writer-slash competition because X amount of sketches get on. I can't be, if I get one in, it's a fucking miracle.

And then you got Mike Myers writing and Dana, Kevin Eel and Dennis, everyone around you, Sandler, Farley, so rock, how can you be as good or better and that took a long, long time. So some of those early shows, the point was, long story longer. I just, if I wasn't in after read through, you're sort of done.

I'm a writer mostly. So I'm just walking the halls while people are very busy around me. And it's, And that's crushing. I love the athletes in the old movie stars the most. Really? Robert Mitchim and I were in a Jack Handy sketch, it was right before the show ends, and neither of us had any idea what the sketch was about.

We were beekeepers in Indonesia or something. That was really cool with Wayne Cress. That's a very different to say. I could see totally you loving the old movie stars But then it's it's weird to that you loved also the guys who are real amateurs. Well, well, gratsky was so charming So Canadian charm and so we're sitting in a sketch where we're playing movie stars We're rehearsing and we're we're Hollywood people advising gratsky how to play hockey better And I was Travolta.

You have a thing like everybody, the whole team just runs at the net. Just somebody goes right at the net, you know. You were Barbarino, it was where you were. That was my substitute, yeah. And I did it once on stage in Denver. I'm going, you know, going like that. And then he, he was there and came and tapped me on the shoulder.

I called him. An impression tap. Was he wearing the pilot outfit? Yeah, he had this whole look on. It's his helmet. Gretzki and I had a sketch that was, that we were gonna be water scheme with our shirts off at the end.

And so I was just teasing, he's a great athlete. I just go, well, you know, because I was training at that point for a movie called Opportunity Nox as I had to have my shirt off. So I was pretty fit, but I was just kidding him. Like, well, our shirt's gonna come off. We'll see what you got, you know, kind of thing. Right. So then I thought he have my shirt off. So I was pretty fit, but I was just kidding him. Like, well, our shirt's gonna come off. We'll see what you got, you know, kind of thing. So then I thought he'd be just built as professional athletes.

So he takes shirt off and he's just amaciated on top. I look like a swarcing error compared him. He's just all legs as the greatest hockey player. There's nothing on top. So that was a little thing that happened. Yes, athletes' bodies have changed. So never taunt an athlete to take their shirt off because you might be more fit than. Yeah. Yeah, I know wouldn't that be the worst? I don't see that happening to me.

Hmm. Being more fit than an athlete or even Robert Mitchum for that matter. What how would you handle watching yourselves on the show? Did you watch yourselves on the show? And if so, when did you do it? Did you like set the VCR on Saturday night and then go home and watch it on Sunday? Couldn't watch it. Never wanted to watch it, David. I'd watch Dana. No, but Dana, you could learn from these guys for sure.

I sort of had to figure out my own lane of what I did. And I would watch, I don't want. You would watch yourself. You would watch yourself. And you would watch yourself. Watching myself was tough because you could. It's terrible. You could get a visa. I still came list on my own stand.

I can't watch the specials. You just do it and you walk away and you say, I hope I'll just go by feedback. People like it, it works or didn't. I feel this one worked. I feel this one was soft. And then you'll just go from there and try to get better. But with, I don't even know what I'm saying.

I think that's interesting. Well, if you needed to watch your blocking or you had something you're curious about, but I just wanted to feel good out there and I didn't wanna go, oh, I thought it was better than that. But our friend John Levitz, I guess he wouldn't mind saying that he did enjoy on Monday, he'd get a VHS tape. He's on the 17th floor down the hall,

and he would watch all of his sketches and just laugh. So, you hear John Duner. That's great. That's great. I want to see it again. He had an assistant rewind it. Rewind it more. I want to see my entrance.

John'll hear the slides. John will be. But you could say that was good homework for John. He was obviously one of our all-time greats. So he loved to watch himself. The best thing is when you get, Farley comes off stage and you go, fuck that crowd and he goes,

what the fuck dude, I killed, that's not your fault. And he goes, well what are you talking about? My most humiliating one, which I never watched, was me and Matthew Broderick, we were all in diapers. Like, we were like babies with bonnet. On the show. On the show.

A sketch with big diapers, bare chested with bonnets and suckers, and I don't even remember what the sketch was. I like it all right. But we just ate it. I mean, dead silence. And then the commercial break, we're still in the diapers, and the thing we have to walk through the crowd. And I kind of wave to the crowd and they looked away That's stinker. They want to be wave man. Yeah, what's up? You know the time for in the bonnet there are certain things in comedy bits that it's funny because they are based on other

Comedy bits and I think the bonnet is one of them. It's based on like cartoons from yeah, 40s or something I've never seen a few years in actual baby in a bonnet. No. But we think, like, okay, yeah, your baby, you're going to be in a bonnet. And yeah, yeah. It doesn't protect you from the sun. It doesn't do anything.

It's like a hair band. I don't know. But we were in bonnets and diapers. Did you ever go completely blank? And I know there are cue cards? And by the way, I do want to ask you something because one thing that has bothered me consistently about Saturday Night Live for like, I don't know, the whole run of the show is the placement of the cue cards because so often, like, you'll be sitting at the anchor desk or whatever and facing forward because that's where the cucumber,

you're supposed to be having a conversation with the person to the right of you. Why doesn't the cue card guy just move over a little bit and make it just a tiny bit more natural? Jimmy, Jimmy. Yes. Calm down. I, I, I, I, that was on my notes that I was gonna ask today.

What the fuck was with the cue card placement? It's bigger. Am I the Q-card placement? It's bigger. Am I the only one noticing that? It's a big problem. People think you're too married to the cards. They used to say so. Well, I our card guy, maybe still there.

He would, you'd have three sets, ideally. But sometimes you all have to decide where you're gonna look at the cards because if you go back and forth from the person, the cards, that's when it looks weird on camera. Well, hold on, there's two things. There's update forward in the sketches. So go on about the sketches. It's different. I don't know. But update, you're looking like if Dennis is update host or Neelan, and they look over to me,

I think there should be some over there, but it's not looking at me. It's all, you kind of grab with your eyes and try to guess, but it's very hard because if you miss, and you also forget what color you are. If I'm green and I go, they go 10 seconds and you go, am I green or you? I was red, I think. They have different colors and the host is always black.

Oh, and it's not consistent, right? Yeah, yeah. Because on our show, on my cards, or now we use telepropter, are black. Yeah. And then Guillermo's blue. And then that's all of us. There's only two people.

Guillermo has lines. Yes, I thought he had that. He's funny. The cue cards would tell you what the eyesight was. Like not to pick on John again, but like I'd have like 10 lines on my cue card. And John would have like two. And the letters would be like a foot high. Yeah.

Because he needed to go, but he didn't want to wear them in the sketch. But I would say that in sketches, if I'm looking at you directly, I can kind of go, well, I don't know, and look over my shoulder and grab the line from behind me as well. So it was the best at this. At update, I thought there was one pivoted, but generally speaking, you don't want to get

an uproar file with Dennis Miller. You want to stay forward as much as possible. Well, because there's no camera going to cover them. Because the great thing about you're in the center of the studio, there's an audience there, you want to just face forward. I would do Grumpy Old Man or characters, well, this is just going to rant. And so I just went right at the cue cards.

That's why I was so potent about it. Right. Sandler was great at that with his guitar and everything. Did you ever see anyone read someone else's line on the show, a cute line on the cute card that was not for them? Well, when you would be in Tunes' The Cat, it was a driving cat, it was a cat with Victoria Jackson, who was adorable, but she'd often just space out like I'd say, my line, oh, where are we going to go in her line of view?

We'll get there pretty soon. Three, two, just kicking her leg. Five, six her line of view? We'll get there pretty soon. Three, two, just kicking her leg. Five, six, oh, how? We'll get there pretty soon. So she would adorably space out. Yeah, I remember one time we were walking out for my first sketch I wrote, and Farley would do jokes around the set, you know? Er, you know, he just do stupid shit.

Power. And then one time he said, I told him, let's go, I want you to lay me down in the tall grass and let me do my stuff. I go, okay, let's put that in there. And then we were thinking of stuff for him. And he goes, I swallow a lot of aggression along with some pizzas or something, whatever.

So we put that in there because he was like the chubby guy in the sketch, shockingly. And then we're walking out on air, not dressed. And he goes, I go, remember, say that one, just like you said it, not dressed and he goes I go remember say that one just like you said it, but when he goes I go what's up? He goes That joke was in stripes I go that joke was in stripes And he goes David it doesn't matter and he grabs me really hard. It's all guilt. David. It's that they go three two

What do we do? He just does it and he's looking like like hold this face like because I go you and then after I go you waited all fucking week and he goes I think we had a week it was like we wrote it was it was live was anything it's it's tried they can't trace it back to me. I go. I think they can They watch you I gotta take the fall. I know you go. You go. You go. You go the ride right away Fuck this is crazy. Listen to this lineup boat week to week to week Steve Martin And James Taylor you this is you know, this is to me. This is as good as it gets

Followed by Rob Marrow in Nirvana Follow by Chevy and Robbie Robertson and Bruce horns me and then The next show is Susan Day and CNC music factory and then Jason Please lean decent you need to let me tell you something something. Susan Day had one of the best sketches. I saw it the other day. Someone tweeted it to me. It was the Parchage Family Battle of Bans versus the Brady Bunch.

And it was an all-cast sketch. So she's Lori Parchage, and we are every... I was David Cass, Eddie Cassie. We had all the Wigs on everything, and it was just like this epic sketch. Farley was Rubin Tinkay. Written by Melanie Hutsle. Did she write that?

Well, yeah, or is she played as her idea? Yeah, she played Jan Witt. She played Jan Brady at, you know. Right on the real library bunch. We were watching this, so yeah. Yeah, she brought that character to the show. So that was a killer catch. Susan Davis, cool.

The best I told Dana that I, when I watched it, I was the drummer, I didn't know I was in it, you know. And I'm in the drummer, I go, where the fuck am I? I get sandlers up there, and he's like, it's time for a change, he was Peter Brady. And so, and then I hear my voice, I go on the drummer, and then I go, they don't even have a courtesy cut to me.

It's just like a wide shot in here. Hey guys, we gotta start rehearsing, and I go, fucking pan over, do something. Move out of it. So I see myself inching my head around Dana. I there like just because I go which camera's got a red light. I got I got to have someone back in Arizona. No, I'm on and in this I would move. I got blacklisted from the tonight show because of Susan day.

Why what is it? Because of Susan day because of Susan day. Do tell not directly, but they were doing a Carson's that week and she came on as Susan day and it was written I didn't write it. I don't want to say it but it was written that Johnny didn't realize the partage family Wasn't still on the air So how's that show going for you? So Danny wanted to do she he's a real piece of work It's a handful and that, and I don't blame,

did not sit well with Johnny Monday after that show. He didn't reference it, but he said, Ed, they think, where's Shina, how did you know that? Oh. They think where's Shina. It's time to go. So anyway, that was kind of a story.

Did that bum you out? Yeah, I didn't want to. I loved Johnny Carson, and I didn't want to be. Most of my stuff was benign and friendly. I love being in that character because of the earnestness of it. But Carcinia was a truly,

I mean, it was a somewhat brutal parody of two different people at once, which you don't ever, I don't know has ever happened before us. Johnny recognized and said that to Leno. You know, they're making fun of Arsenio as much as they're making fun of us. So he's smart, he got it. But the scene I think was a bridge too far. So I wasn't asked back.

But before that, I was on a show all the time. You know, and I was on the best of every year. I do a montage. I come on. He's dead to me, dead. He's dead to me. In a, Jimmy, when you look at that list, it made me realize that when, from when I started and every Monday meeting, when you look at that list, it made me realize it. From when I started, and every Monday meeting, when you go in there, it was a weird thing that I would think some people had a star thing. Like you would see them sitting in that chair and they would talk and they would handle themselves. I literally walk out of there,

that's a fucking movie star. Like it hit me and some people were just blank to me. Like they just got on that week. We have names. I know. I don't want to say anything. Who are the movie stars? I would say the movie stars. You know, like I share.

And Sharon's is easy. And Sharon's is easy. That's easy. Comes in dressed up gorgeous. It's there. And I was on a handler. So there's a my second show or third show was Alec Baldwin's first black turn.

Like I just watched hunt for red October. We as a star. I come and he's got blue eyes, black hair, and he's like, how's it going? Nice to everyone, super cool. Everything about it, he was into the comedy, he would go pitch ideas of people. I just go, this guy's a fucking star.

Yeah, the Hazel blue eyes, like weird blue eyes and just super built, like, you know. And now and then someone would come by and you, you know, they're the fourth lead on Melrose plays, you all right. But, you know, they're the fourth lead on Melrose plays, you're all right. But, you know, they were okay. And they did fine, they did their best. No, I think Laura Layton, I don't want to make fun

of Laura Layton, but we weren't getting the biggest stars for a year there. I remember there was a year where we started sagging where, you know that show. Oh, that person? No, Grayson out of me, they play the janitor. Well, the janitor's friend. That guy's hosting and so you go, oh, so it's not quite who you think it would be from

that show. Right. And then we picked it back up again, but there's people that you see that you go, I get it. There are some people that are, it's, that's one of, I think this would be a great game. Did they host SNL or not? Now, obviously you guys have an advantage, but I don't know. Okay, here's one and well you should know because you were there lightning round. Yeah, it's in bad ever host Saturday night life. I'm gonna say no because it's so obvious he should have. I don't

I'm gonna say yes, and you were on that with him. Oh, Jesus. Was I? Dennis Miller Jimmy goes. Dennis Miller goes, I was on fucking star search with Sinbad. We go to the final round and I'm doing I'm doing my best quality high-end material. Sinbad gets up there and goes, yeah, we have underpants so big and old it's just a rubber band for stars. You're moving on. And Dennis then I'm doing half going what the fuck is happening? You know what that's funny. I mean it can be a rubber band It's so big it drags in the sand that was as close as it was booty so big Drags in the sand behind her. No, I did a corporate with him any fucking balloon

He destroys it one time. I was doing this theater. I don't remember where, and the stage hand right before I went out and go, Symbad crushed here last week. I couldn't believe it. Did he do local references? Oh, he did all of them. You know, my first 10 minutes. Moved in here a month before. But yeah, you don't want to follow Symbad.

That guy's, go ahead, keep going. Tony Orlando. I'm just going to say yes now, because I don't remember one. I think we had Don hosting, but I was there. No, I just made that one up. I just said that I don't know. I don't have a, we don't get the main guy. I just thought of this idea. I wish I had Don hosting. But I was, no, I just made that one up. I just, I don't know. I don't have a, we don't get the main guy.

I just thought of this idea. I wish I had the whole list, but. Rob Mora was on Northern exposure. Yeah, right. He was, it was a big deal. It was, it was. And Nirvana, I remember Nirvana, I remember Kurt Cobain sitting in the hall with Courtney Love.

Out of the dressing, just sitting in the hallway by the page desk and they camped out there. So you just walk by getting ready and They're just there fiddling around I go. Okay. Do you have much interaction with the musical guests because at our show there's much more interaction with the Celebrity guest than music. But you your music when I go to the show on your show and I like the music They're at a stage away usually right? Yeah, there's a satellite stage. There are two different stages. I don't even see them.

But with this, you're allowed to talk to people. They don't, I'm sure they don't love it, but they don't know everyone's. They treat everyone like they're important. They don't know that I'm some bullshit new writer. But what you can go watch your hersel during dinner and they do their songs and then they go eat dinner. So I did sat and I ate with Nirvana both times because they were younger, I was newer, and didn't know much the first time

they came on and came with ProJem. Second time knew them all better, liked them all better. Very interesting, everyone's sort of on the same playing field and cool to each other. So we had a great time. And now one time, I think cranberries were there. This is stupid, but Marcy Klein was there. And they didn't, sometimes they don't do their hit song

and you get frustrated. Oh yeah, right, yes. And so there's a deal with the record, I don't know. It's about my record. So I just stand there watching them and I'm like, fuck, they're not doing linger. And I go, all right, so I watch. And then the Marcy goes, do a linger,

but they're recording it. And so she just goes, she's smoking, she's like, do a langer. And they were just rehearsing, so the guy goes, you know, it starts playing it, and then she's like, fine. You know the singer, she's Irish, but Irish, I didn't know it,

but it came through because she goes, she's kind of walking through it. If you, and she's like, it's just your attitude, it's turn me apart, it's herring in every day. I was like, oh, she's Irish, like I never heard it in the real song, but when she was half-assing it, I go, I love it more.

And then Marsi gave me a cassette of that. She goes, we taped it. I was like, oh, fuck yeah. So they should do the best of not even dressed, the dress every hersel. The best of four. So he rehearsed. Well, I don't tell you.

If you're a fan of a band, because I had a guy who was a Bob Shug was his name, Eric Clapton, fanatic. So then he comes out to New York. He's in the bleachers and Thursday. You're seeing Eric talking, talking to his band. He's playing the song. He's doing this song.

It's hours of immersive stuff into your idol. So that just changed his life. And then when he came back in the show in Saturday, Eric Clapton walked by, and he was on 8-H, and Eric remembered his name, you know, hello, Bob, how you doing, you know. So that's just a really intimate thing. What about for you guys musically, not obviously Paul McCartney and the probably everybody answered, but getting on, he was doing, um, wasn't old man or something. One of his incredible, and I was, I was done with the show that night.

I went to the side and was watching him in a chair, playing 10 feet away. You have moments like that where you're kind of like, damn, this is a nice, wonderful show. Would you have bands that then started playing at the after party? Is that happened regularly? I think Clapton, it was good night. And then I think he played another 20 minutes. And I know that McCartney did. I wasn't there for that one. Didn't McCartney do it? Yeah, he concerted. McCartney, when he was on our show, did 17 songs.

Shut the f**k up. After the show. After the show. Not kill. 17 songs. And the next night, Justin Timberlake was on the show and he was not feeling well and he comes to me and he goes and we were like you got to do you know we close down the boulevard we're like you got to do at least five shows there's a lot of people that's songs you get a lot of people out there and he's like I said he goes how many did McCartney do I say I said 17 he's like fuck he's He's like six, seven years younger. There's only one McCartney. Is that the best though?

And they seem to enjoy what they're doing because so many times that's not the case. And so many times you see them, they're reading their lyrics off a telepropter and you go, I know the words to this song. How is it possible that you don't? I told Dana that when I have a long story about it, but in my hilarious stand-up act,

but I went to one of it. Netflix now, what's the name of it? That one's out, but this is for the new one. What's the name of your Netflix? What is it? Hey, hey, bud. What's it called? It's called, no, fucking no.

Coming off gay. Oh, no, wait, that's. You're called the name of your Netflix. I can't even think of it. What's it called? Nothing personal? Nothing personal. I thought it was hay bud.

So I do this Haiti, the short version is I do one of those Sean Penn Haiti benefits where, you know, you bid on things. It's like Justin Bieber and a hot air balloon ride. It's like always really good. Hey, when a rocket ship to Mars with Elon Musk, I'll do that, you know, that sounds fun. But everyone's rich and it's a lot of peer pressure.

And so I see tickets to McCartney Front Row and Springsteen. And I go, this is like, something I would do. So they go, my estimate was 10 grand. So I go, I tell my table, I've had a little couple of knocks in me, I go, loud mouth soup. I go, hey, I might bid on this one, might get my buckle up.

And they're like, is this guy with you? So I'm just talking to people that I have money. And then they go, so I have my buckle up. And they're like, is this guy with you? So I'm just talking to people that I have money. And then they go, so I have my paddle up and Sean smoking. I said he goes, all right, the McCartney tickets, like, here we go. And he goes, I put my thing up. He goes, starting at 50,000, I go, what the fuck?

And then he goes, spade. And I go, no, no, I go, wait. On this, it was gonna go increments. Like it would go like a thousand and there would be an increment. And then I would go. And what's going on with the increments? And he go like a thousand and there'd be an increment and then I would go And what's going on the increments and he goes 50 and it's and they're all looking me I go no, it's just funny that it's 50. I don't care about the money. I just think it's funny and then they go

60 over here 70 80 speed I go. I will give me a second It was 50 and I'm I mean talk about a markup. I think because I'm like the face value is probably a hundred five hundred Let's say and then I go, that's, okay. So, you know, you could have gone to that for free. Sure, and I'm like, trying to be great guy. And I'm like, actually, I don't even know Gundam I had where Haiti is on a map. I'm just, I'm like, there was an earthquake,

but was it that bad? And then, and then they go, and then everyone's, the cat was like, who's the cheap skin? I'm like, 80, 80, 80's great. And then they go, 90, 100's paid. I go, it hasn't been one fucking second. It hasn't, it's a pinball game. Are you raising your past? Yeah, I'm like, 80, 80, 80's great. And then they go, 90, 100's paid. I go, it hasn't been one fucking second. It hasn't, it's a pinball. Are you raising your pad?

Yeah, I'm like this. He keeps asking me because I'm spending. But your paddle's up like that. No, it's down. Now he's stepping on my pad. He's down. Yeah. Probably the only person whose name he knows in this auction.

So you really have to disadvantly. I see Charlie's glaring. I go, I'm getting it. It's 100. It's zero to me. 100 is literally zero. So then he goes, the biggest fucking scam in the business is I go, I'm getting it. That's 100, it's zero to me. 100 is literally zero. So then he goes, the biggest fucking scam in the business is I go, I'm at 100 and then they go, 125

and I go to my table, nobody fucking move. This is gonna go away in a second. Someone's gonna bid, I'm off the hook. And then he goes, spade, I go, no, no. I'm the 100, I won. 125, I go, this is illegal. And then everyone goes, spade, spade, I go, 125. So I won that and I fixed Haiti.

The goodness is Haiti is fixed. Sean pennies your best friend. Yeah, I mean, and then I walked out of there like a bomb when I was like, ee, ee, ee, ee, ee, and they get over there and they go, MX, chick, chick, chick. The biggest scam is when they get you all the way

to the top and then they go, okay, we're gonna give away three of these. Yeah, yeah. It's basically when you're the one, the top and then they go, okay, we're gonna give away three of these. It's basically when you're the one doing this, like, oh, really, I gotta have dinner with three different parties. Okay, all right, I'm gonna ask all of my seno. I went to a cartony and you get to go to rehearsal stuff

and then I didn't really wanna get up in this grill and I didn't even tell him when we interviewed him because I felt bad, but I felt like he'd wanna pay me back. So, and then I met him and he was super cool that night. So, but I don't know if he even knew, I think he was just being nice and hurt. I asked to meet him and like, did you guys do that thing with Paul McCartney

where you didn't talk about the Beatles to be respectful? Well, that's still something I have nightmares about. When we interviewed him on this show, I didn't, I'd send an email to him, you know, just sort of to his assistant, saying, well, excuse me, it doesn't wanna come on. Maybe it doesn't wanna talk about the Beatles.

You can talk about your friendship with Lauren and when you're on SNL. So I went in with that notion, and we were trundling along, and at one point I brought up, get back. And then we were into the Beatles. The documentary. And that's all he wanted to talk about. That's the funny thing one point I brought up, get back. And then we were into the Beatles. The documentary. And that's all he wanted to talk about.

That's the funny thing is, I think people, and I think most people probably you assume, yeah, he doesn't, he's talked about the Beatles and that, whatever. But he does, he has no problem talking about the Beatles because I think he wants, he knows you want to hear about the Beatles. And he's very unselfish of him to let us tell you things about. He's talking about John. I mean, you don't want to ask about John. You don't want to ask about things that might make him feel weird.

Well, you know that. I'm sure because with Farley and it's. By the way, zero people have a problem with it. Well, zero. I think I like this. Really? Remember, who is that guy that died that you were really good friend? I always feel a little bit weird about asking about that because I know it's a heavy subject.

It's not just funny stories. We're doing a sort of a special on him and the thing is, I don't wanna dine out on Farley. I did movies with him and I kinda didn't want to separate myself from him, but I just wanna not feel like the beat. I don't wanna be like, I don't wanna talk about it. I would suggest to this and maybe this will make you

feel a little better. What would make Chris Farley happier than hearing you tell stories about the funny things I should say to other friends too. That's true. I would want people to say funny things and I wouldn't want anyone to feel awkward about talking about me. And so Chris was obviously a huge part. I mean, one thing I didn't tell Dana is I used to have a phone machine and the old days

when it was actually the weird part went away from cassettes to digital for a minute and then they were kind of just on your phone. But it's a physical machine and so I realized once everyone's leaving such funny messages that I kept them and I go I just will have this for life. Maybe it'll be an owl, maybe something one day but it's farly and these guys when you have a phone machine they just do, it's like a show. It's like Sandler. It's like, be even here. Hey, Debu. Hey, Debu.

Oh, yes, oh, yes, oh, yes. You know, just whatever. And then Farley goes, name's man, I'm good, good. I says, I says, I says, I say, I just keep going. For two minutes. Yeah.

And then there's Norm and everyone. So it's like the best of the, I delayed the ones and I had 33. And then someone that was working on my house goes, hey, I moved your office around, I go, what do you mean? I ran in there. They unplugged it and said zero and I go, wait, how do we, and there was no way. And it was, it still bugs me to this day.

I go, it was the best that you'll never get back. But I think the reason Paul isn't mind talking about it is because the Beatles songs is like a wave that was cresting and I think they're even bigger in the last 10 years than they were 30 years ago. Yeah, for sure. Because it was too much, too much incredible music, 200 masterpieces and then it was just sort of Paul doing his stuff and they kind of got lost. They were always huge, but now I feel like it's this 10.0.

And then he decided at one point to do the songs that were traditionally considered Lennon songs. He opened up with day in the life. He's doing strawberry fields. So he's at peace with it, but I didn't I didn't know that, but we did get into about 30 minutes of the Beatles, which was great. David, you told me a long time ago, you're on the show that celebrities would get upset with you. And I think we know everybody knows stories about Eddie Murphy or whatever. But I've heard about jokes that you would make during weekend update. Hollywood.

Would minute. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry. Hollywood minute. Did you? Did you have any besides that Eddie Murphy? Do you have any uncomfortable run-ins,

meetings, did you start to? Well, it was, it was not go places. Not go places. Not go places. Not go places. Not go places. Not go places. Not go places.

Not go places. Not go places. Not go places. Not go places. Not go places. Not go places. Not go places. Not go places.

Not go places. Not go places. Not go places. Not go places. Not go places. Not go places. Not go places. or anything like that. Oh boy. So the only one I remember sort of more vividly was Cameron Crowe at the show. And I'm over by the 8-H desk. And then I, and he goes, hey, David Cameron Crowe. And you know, it was back with Fast Times. He did Fast Times, Richmond High or whatever. He's done a lot of ton of shit.

So I said, oh, hey, and I shake his hand. And it was like slow and he goes, you know my wife. Or do you know my wife? And I go to Shake your hand and I go, in my head I go, he's married to someone famous. And it was Nancy Wilson from Hart. And she just stared at me and she goes, you were talking shit about me and my sister.

And it just stopped and I go, what are you gonna do? You know, you make a Hollywood minute and I'm like, you gotta break some eggs. And so, I didn't know what do I go, yes. And then I just sort of drifted off. And the worst part is I love heart. Uh-huh.

And I made fun of so many people that I liked. It just, it was a desperate move that I was kind of good at the time of doing that move to stay alive on the show. I mean, Lauren, it was probably two to three years in and then I did a Hollywood minute and they laughed at Reeth through and then Lauren goes, good, you found your voice. He said a Reeth through and he just said,

I sat right next to him and I was like, what's that man, I didn't really know what that meant. And then it worked and then about a week later, he goes, maybe Hollywood minute this week, I go, are you fucking shitting me? Cause he's never told me to do a sketch, he's never, I was just scraping to me in sketches. And then that kept me on a few more years.

I didn't want to do that one too much either, but it was a good one to go to. And then I started of a straight, like as someone you don't know, young blonde kid from Arizona, out of the business, just taking people's legs out. But saying what people were kind of saying, you know, but they didn't want to say,

because it was all people magazine. There was only magazine with people magazine, I think. And so they were like, so fluffy, this is love, so it was interesting to hear someone say something kind of negative. If it was a clever way, like when you go,

MC Hammer, do do do do do do do do do do do do, it's over. You know what I mean? Yeah. Julie Brown. Wobba, Wobba, Wobba. My career's in trouble, trouble, trouble. So all those were kind of funny to do 10 jokes.

And then but remember this in Sandler had it with upper man where he drew it off the side. This and that. Then he's he's at home base. He's doing the subtitles, and he's having pictures. So Hollywood Minute is like, okay, Hollywood Minute. And then you would have the picture of the person,

and you'd be right down the lens. So that's just really service you as a comedian. Once a crowd bought it and then they're looking forward to it. Then I do that a few times, and then I get to a level, then Tommy Boy came out, and then like Black sheep, and then suddenly I'm in that sort of area of being known and then to me it wasn't as interesting because I go part of the fun was it's

in nobody just like and then I go I'm in this I know careers are fragile I get why people feel like shit sometimes these jokes I don't like mean jokes about me so I go so it it faded out and then that was just toward the end anyway yeah you, you suddenly feel like maybe you're not punching up anymore. Yeah, they're your friends. So now you know, Yeah, and then you see and then you go, I can't do that person. I didn't want to buy anastin, I felt bad about it. And then I just said, this is getting stupid.

MC Hammer hosted the show. All you guys were there. He did the reception. He was. No, not really. He didn't. No, he didn't. Well, he did. And I remember, I remember I was kind of in the reception. He was. No, not really. He didn't. No, he did. Well, he did.

And I remember, I remember I was kind of my hated, I was kind of cocky. So the writers came over and I was doing, I was coming in at the end of that sketch. David, my first where I go and you are, that was my first sketch that actually worked. Five to one. It was, I, the fill was Jesus.

Was I an alien? He wasn't, he wasn't that one. The first one was MC Hammer. You came in as an alien, I think. And I didn't know who anyone was. And then when it came back again, it was first sketchup. I think it was Rosanne, I think it was, you feel as Jesus.

But I remember MC Hammer is there and the writers off the side and I was just kind of kiddin' around and go, what do you guys want? You want a big laugh when I come in or you want an applause break, you know, what do you want? I'll put on whatever movie you want. An MC Hammer coming from the street.

He just thought that was the greatest. You can't touch this. I got to admit, that song was fucking catchy. Yeah. I mean, come on. I think vanilla, I always came on. I was rocking out as much as anyone. I mean, there's some toad tapers in that room.

Yeah, although the parts that are actually catchy were written by someone else and then just wrapped over, right? I was willing to look the other way. You were, okay. But then you couldn't do commercials then. Then he did a talk about it. You can't touch this.

The burrito supreme. Now anyone could do commercials. You can't eat all this. I missed it. The 90s, I left a lot of money on the table. You can't do that. You're Bob Dylan. Yeah, that changed.

You big way. You're supposed to do, isn't that a special deal for a big Mac he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he he I did a Super Bowl commercial when I was way earlier than I should have a personnel because I had no money and they they offered me a die Pepsi commercial and then Gerrbitz goes that all right it's all set we just got run it by law and I go why well you know we just contract contracting I go no no no well it shouldn't be a problem and then he goes that he goes, ah, he killed it. I go, he killed my super-bulch him. Was that after John and I did ours? It must have been. Yeah.

Did you mention that? Mark, what are you doing? Are you gonna, we're gonna talk to Mark after this. But I tell the super-bulch him, we're gonna talk in 10 seconds. So John and I are doing, we did one, it really crushed what we're doing the second one. And it's a series of like two second shots.

We're filming in New Orleans, we're everywhere. And it's a quick thing for American Express. And our catchphrase was yes, that. So we're in a stadium in Miami and we got to wear Hawaiian shirts for two second shot in the stands. So I go in, there's 300 Hawaiian shirts to pick. So I pick one and come out with a Hawaiian shirt and I'm sitting there. And John goes, I'll go get my Hawaiian shirt. He goes in there. He's in there for like a half hour.

He comes out, goes over to me and goes, can I wear your shirt? I swear to God, I go down the street. Can I wear your shirt? You got the best one. You got the best shirt. Of course I wouldn't take it off. I should. No, of course. I was the best one. Then I did, that's how I teased John. Of course I got the best one. I know I got it. We both know I got it.

I can imagine that you were super bummed about not being able to do that commercial. I think it was 250 grand and I was making about 1,500 a week on the show. Is that right? You're making 1,500 a week. I was wondering about that. Like, do you ever get paid a lot to be on Saturday? I think I started at 4,500.

Yeah, and maybe I left it 12,5. I was 900 because I was just a writer. And it was a 900 week to write. And then I got a $1,500 bump if I was on, I think. And so, but I was fine with that. So, did that. And then it got up to, then like the second year was like a 3500

of a show and then next year, 45. So it never got like astronomical. Yeah, well, I mean, it sounds, you know, obviously. It's not a lot of show business, you know, but. When you're dreaming of riches and you're living in New York, it's pretty, yeah. Yeah, there's nothing, there's nothing like it. One thing I'd like to just insert at this point

is that for people to understand that David Spade and Rob Schneider were in the ether of standups. And Dennis and I both knew them and thought they were kind of the best guys out there. I mean, I did a lot of standup with Rob Schneider and I met David before and would see him at the improv. So some people go, how did you know David Spade? Why are you doing this podcast? I've known him since he was a 20 and. And he was another one to whisper to Lauren like in the talent department like he's good. Like do you remember when you met?

Yeah, well I was living with Kevin Neal and Bob Duback in a house. Did you ever live with anyone who isn't famous? So they were famous then. You know, Matt. But my wife and I just saved money to buy a house. She was working writing speeches and was working where for an assemblyman out in the valley.

And the rent was 300. We had a hot plate and we lived above the garage. And the dryer had no heat on it, but they just roll it for like all day long it was rolled to dry. It was just a roller. So it was just, and this little car port in Needle was across the way.

And then I got on, pulled him in, but I met David there at that house, just hanging out. I guess I was a Santa, met Neal, and loved his, Dan, I loved Dana, of course. He's the best, that's right. And then Dana wasn't, at the club as much as Kevin was kind of grinding away, but Dana was sort of, someone I didn't get to see a lot,

but I just thought was great, and then Kevin goes, as Kevin was kind of grinding away, but Dana was sort of someone I didn't get to see a lot, but I just thought was great. And then Kevin goes, hey, I got SNL. Do you want to rent my room? I'm gonna be gone. I said, yeah, I need to, he heard me saying I need a place. He goes, well, I'm gonna rent my room. So we made this deal.

And when he came home, he was very nice. He stayed on the couch. He let me keep the room. He didn't take his room back. Fucking Dana Cardi lives above the garage in my own house. So I'm like, holy shit, I get to see him. Do backs a comedian. There's a writer living there.

And then, and Kevin, so when they come back, I would get to hear stories, not even thinking that would be somewhere I would end up. I was just like, shitting that these two famous guys that I think are greater are somewhere where I get to talk to them. And so that was, you know, I go back to Arizona and be like, I feel like, I remember I saw Judd Nelson at a keg party when I was visiting him.

And I felt like I was in show business because you're in the vicinity. So you ran into someone where someone that's been in a movie was, I'm getting warmer. And that's how you think. And so I go, oh, I'm fucking talking to Dana and Kevin and I'm at the improv. So I'm getting at least closer to what I hopefully will do.

Yeah, I was, Dennis Miller, I knew from the clubs and then he got on SNL. And then we went, played the comedy magical and we were driving back and then he tells me about the pressure of SNL. Christ, thanks. I'm gonna eat you up, tell you apart, man. I mean, there's no gig like this on Earth.

I'm gonna go home crying most nights, you know? You sure you wanna do this thing? It's not good. Don't wish too hard. Don't wish too much trouble. But it was incredibly told to us, this is a pressure cooker like no human being has ever, ever been in.

And we got it anyway. Does the pressure, is it ever Wayne? Do you feel as, you get more comfortable or feel steadily sick Like you have mild COVID the whole run really The whole six years. I did it, you know Dennis we'd walk in the room. He's in the right room. He did update You know, but he didn't really want to be in sketches and shit so he would just sit there and We'd walk in and he would we're new guys, so he'd haze us.

Chris Schrock, angry black guys at it. And then he'd go around and we're like a shooting gallery. Tim and I, those black guys, not even angry. You're the nice guy. What's that all about? You got nothing. Farley, fatty fall down, anything else? San on the cross-eyed guy.

What's next on the docket? It's probably zero. Dana, push him off of building. And Farley would beg him, because I was, with Dennis once, we say, Karim, let's stop buying with the junior varsity. And they're all lined up and Farley's like, come on, do it, you know.

And then he would do is shooting out, but everyone is laughing their ass off. I mean, I get it. Karim, thanks. They're not buying that hand-contorted guy, you know? But everyone is laughing their ass off. I mean, I get it. Yeah. Thanks. They're not mind that hand-contorted guy, you know? But anyway. What about the last show? Your last shows.

I remember it. That was probably the looser I was. I think after about 80 shows, I've got way more comfortable because I was having so much success. And Wayne's World was cooking and everything. My last sketch that I remember I played Prince Charles, now King Charles, who shrinks himself, scientists shrink him down to the size of a tampon so that he can live in the trousers. Yeah. Oh, and I didn't know later there was a royal in England watching this crying because it was very cruel but hysterical.

He gave a speech to the nation. I should be going to place that's very dark. I should be shrinking into the size of a town pond so I can live in the trousers of my sounds like a Jack Hennie or Robert's Michael. But that was, you get more. What about, okay, so that's your last sketch, but what about like at the party afterwards was it, was it someone, it was a toast made to you? Was there a special attention? No, I just left in the middle of the season. There was you didn't get a dance or

Lauren clinking champagne glasses. There was no official goodbye. Why did you leave in the middle of the season? That was a really stupid decision. It was because I done I got so hot off the show like too hot too hot for my own good because Wayne's world All the political stuff Ross Pro but church like everything is cooking Hanson fronds had a movie deal So then there was a stupid movie for a lot of money and I thought well, I have to leave pretty soon Anyway, I'm at a peak here. Where do I go from here? You know, right? So that's why in the movie was starting at such a time, but from here, you know. Right. And so that's why, and the movie was starting at such a time, but

you know, it probably wasn't the best choice, but anyway, it happened, but that I got too hot off the show. And so I got offered things that I had no business doing, you know. If I had a little less here. You remember something that you decided you had to turn down because you were on the show? Well, I turned down a lot of things. You mean, I had to turn it one. It wasn't that kills you. No, not really. I was the Oscar. I loved doing a lot of it. It's doing the show, really.

I was developing Hans and Franz the girly man dilemma. You mean, I wrote that script with Conan and Neelan, Smogel and myself. And then I had two songs, which I wrote with Bob owner Kirk, which was a really funny Western for me and John Loveitz. So I had those in development, and then they were just trundling along. So then it was taking time,

and then you offered these movies for generational wealth type amounts, and probably not a good idea, but too much heat. I'll leave you, but finish out the season. I left, and when you leave, I think the next move is back then, the networks would probably let you try your own show. You know, like, it's spadey. Right.

Right. But that's a big gamble. And there was a just shoot me was a brilstein production that was how much time it lapsed between just shoot me and the year. I don't, I think it was the following year We did the pilot yeah, okay, so that of their 96 we did The pilot was already already shot in New York with Laura to be on the lineup You know that works for the up front right and they called her that night and said we're not gonna have you come out fly back home

Which is so weird. Because they have four people. And they said, we wanna add something that is so Mark and Brad Gray showed us me and they said, do you think you could fit into this? And it's a fifth lead, but you could make, it's a guy from Larry Sanders, Steve Levitan. And so we all talked and I thought, you know, I think this is safer.

I'm with funny people, but there's no way they're funny or then what I just came from so They were just great actors and they were funny too. So right it just mixed well And then I got to do that but I did a movie like Dan was saying I did a movie lost and found during that and if you do one Movie no matter how much heat you have it didn't work well and that That lost all the heat movies for I'd had to build up over just shoot me, get up for an Emmy, up for a Go-and-Glob, and then-

Would Julie Bowen in that with you? Sophie Marcel. Sophie Marcel. Because they assume even though you're thinking they'll understand, because someone is directing it, writing it, producing it, I'm just doing the best I can. I know the train has left the station

and we're dying here, but it's like David Spades, lost and found. And it didn't work. I mean, Sandler told me right before it came out, he goes, Hey, because he knew more about it. And he goes, you got to beef up your marketing because it's not, not testing. It's not tracking well. It's not going to open big. And I'm like, you already know this a couple days before. He was on water boy at that point. It was fucking huge. So he said, try to get you guys this. Anyway, it was too late, didn't do well. I couldn't get another movie for three years.

And just you knew. Just you knew. Had to do well. You know, like I said, up for a go and globe, up for another one, up for an Emmy, and then after all that heat, you get another shot at it. And so did another one, and then that worked better, and then it kept me around.

But like Daniel was saying, if you do one movie, it doesn't work perfectly, it can evaporate so much of your fucking momentum. Yeah. And it also can go the other way where you suddenly have more momentum than maybe you can handle. Yeah, I mean, it's a trap to paradise with John and Nicholas Cage. And that one is a long story.

It's a whole novel in itself, but it was still born. And then I'm reading Dana Carvey's Trapped in Paradise. Like Alfred H. Cuck presents. I was wondering the snow for six months in Canada. I didn't know what my life was. But Nicholas Cage was fun to work with. He is a character. Do you think back on those days as like,

now that you think back on them in the same way, you think back on those days as like now that you think back on them in the same way you think back on going to school? We mean SNL. Yeah, your classmates. Yeah, I would say that yes if you go back to your high school on a Sunday afternoon and just walk around the high school and maybe see some of the old pictures whatever that feeling is When I go to SNL if I'm up on the 17th floor, I'll be walking out of the hall and I'll see me and Phil from 30 years ago and other pictures. And so it's very, it's nostalgic, it's melancholy, it's very odd, but mostly as time goes on,

you just feel very grateful for it. You know, it was the linchpin for me completely. Nothing would have happened. Yeah, so it's such a nice thing to go back in there and you get like your heart drops like fuck, you're walking in a 30 rock on every time I walked in here, I was sick. I still like every time you're like, here we go. So even when you're just visiting or whatever, I, when I was,

I only went one, once, once when I wasn't hosting or something. And it just gave me the same weird feeling. But I look at the photos and it's just giving the same weird feeling. But I look at the photos and it's just like oh my god there's so much going on here and sad you see Phil who passed away. You see Norm obviously Chris and you just go shit Jan and all the people you're with and you're just like lucky to still be around lucky that I had this and you see Lauren and Lauren is really fun to see because it's tough as it was, it was a lot in your head like you think about your everyday going, I'm gonna squash this bug.

And I'm like, he doesn't give a fuck. He just wants the funny sketches beyond. You guys fight it out, we're putting on a good show. And then that's just the way it's always been. And now it doesn't really matter, and then it's very fun to see him. I think just having been on it is so surreal because as a kid dreaming of this, secretly,

I wasn't in theater arts or anything, but watching variety shows, you know, Flip Wilson, and laughing, and all those old-fashioned ones, and then seeing Steve Martin on it. And they were badass pirate rock stars, the first cast. I was in college, and they were like, oh my god. Damn, and then five or six years later suddenly I'm in their chair. I just felt like, don't we need someone besides me? The minute I got it, I really felt incredibly nervous that I was going to be the one to ruin the show, that the show I'd actually turn the lights out.

The switches over there, 8-H, there, you just press it down because you're the one who fucking drove it into a ditch. That was the fear, but fear drives you. So I would say it's still, I remember George Bush senior saying to me, because we would hang out years later and stuff. We were friends and he goes, I can't even believe I was president. I hardly, hardly understand it. Like, it became a surreal thing to him. 21, 15 years later. I know I was in there. I pressed some buttons, made some speeches.

I didn't go. Very hazy. Haze. Haze. You don't think about the lead up when you see somebody. Like I remember seeing you on Silent Night Live and just going like, oh yeah, there's Dana Carby. He was born to be on the show.

He's, he came out of the womb doing characters and of course this makes perfect sense, but never do you think of the struggling. I'm, oh, I have never heard anybody say anything like that about a president because I always assume the guys who wind up president with one notable exception are planning for it when they run for the student council in the eighth grade,

you know, they're thinking about it way back then. He was a unique character. Because once you hit the president, then it's over. And then he's like, this is my whole life. And then now, what do I do? I've only tried to get to this to be a president. That's the thing. That's afterwards.

Yeah. If it's 10 years, he's like, if you're an SNL cast member at a given point, you're an ex SNL cast member. And remember Fred Armorson after he left, which is, you always feel like someone is doing my job and they're doing it better than me. He's like, how do you deal with that? But for me, I did not have the confidence,

even with, I learned later as I went along, I'm a fish in water. This is actually really, I got much, much better. I'd never done sketch comedy until the very first cold opening, which I didn't even know I was in on the very first show. I just, I whenever time I got a laugh when I was doing church hat, I wanted to turn the audience like a stand-up. I had to force myself to stay in the scene. So I needed to learn how to do sketch comedy. And I became a fell in love with it of having Phil as a partner of Mike Myers and Kevin Neeland and stuff. So that part, instead of being a stand-up,

it was just fun to be part of a kick ass A team. Like, everyone's great on the show. I'm leaving the show. I didn't go to college that much, and I mean, I'm super smart, but it's time for community college, right? Yeah, I went to the pirates. I went to SEC, the artichokes. The artichokes went to Arizona State.

Or me too, you know. I went there too, yeah. You both, other, Bill Hader, move from Oklahoma. the art of jokes with the airs or see you you both a little hater move from Oklahoma community college and this is where the kids

would do so good in high school later dad scott's like fame the academy they're like three made it now three hundred million didn't but he wasn't aware of you guys going through that no no but he wasn't aware of you guys going through that.

No, no, but I don't think it seemed crazy to him until I reacted strongly to that bit of news. Like we went to the community college down the block from my house. It's the from, like you traveled to go there, nobody, everybody goes there. I mean, I was with mom. Well, I leave you now.

Like I was saying, I don't really have friends from college, but I do have friends from high school and then I have SNL people. So, yeah, I feel the same way. I don't, yeah, I saw Chris Rock. I talked to him yesterday. I talked to Adam Moore. But there's guys, because the podcast that you get to talk to for an hour like Bill Hader, where I would see him at a party and talk for two minutes. But to get the bullshit is really fun. And it's sort of reminiscing about us and all about whatever we talk about. But that is but to get the bullshit is really fun. And it's sort of reminiscing about us, and all about whatever we talk about. But that is nice to get someone trapped for an hour.

You just get to catch up. Yeah, it was Bill. The revelation was how much nervous energy yet around that show. I mean, really full of fledged panic attacks, all kinds of, all kinds, because he was so great on the show. You know, right up there with anybody,

and just so nervous, man, I don't know how he hit it, but it was a really big deal. I'm very interested in hearing about it. You wanted what the toll, what the, like, when, at the end of it all, I had a block, Dardery, like three years later. So, you know, besides my genetics.

Like, hold it, where you go? Do I have long SNL? Yeah. Yeah. No, I would go, I, they'd say three, two, one, I'd be bush because I did so many in ones in the whole show's writing on me and I've got nine minutes of dialogue. And my heart would be just pounding out of my chest, but you have to try to relax with the truth lying down.

Sure. I could pick up things, my hands were so sweating, I couldn't pick up pieces of paper in the early days for sure. I was just too fucking nerve-wracking But we've got it's not just like I mean ultimately is like you want to be funny That's the that's number one you want to be funny, but also like yeah as you mentioned earlier like sometimes The future of your whole family is riding on this. Oh, yeah What am I gonna do if this doesn't or and if I didn't kill in the clubs then I didn't get to the middle act And if I didn't kill in the clubs, then I didn't get to the middle act.

Now, if I didn't kill there, I didn't get to headline, and then the middle act's trying to knock me off. I came in with the mindset of a standup. Like, I don't wanna just get laughs. I wanna let it, I wanna destroy the room. For better, for worse, that was my, where I was thinking all the time, or else I'm gonna get fired.

Or I'm not gonna be in the show at all. So, you had to really, really strategize about that. And if people, parents, relatives, when you say you're a standup, that's all good and well. It's not as impressive to go, oh, I just did gut busters and we filled up the late show Friday. Oh, I'm side splitters in Mississippi, and they go,

great, and then you go, oh, I'm got on SNL. Then it just perks people up. Oh, and something works they can easily explain to their friends Yeah, that and going on Johnny Carson. I got on once he's been on love That's the surrealness of a one when you go on television Carson or snl Yeah, what it how it affects everyone you know and then it's starting to happen and you're starting to get famous and someone's asking for your autograph. All of that is like, you're like in a dream state in a sense, you know, it's like, when am I God on SNL?

I'm actually doing well, what, you know, I still, I still haven't wrapped my, I can't believe I was on SNL. Yeah. It's all crazy. Well, I have to be so, it's all crazy stuff. I love talking to you guys, that was a lot of fun. Thanks for letting me for the extra half hour. Okay. Well, okay good

I didn't I have no sense of time. I don't know. I just look too long. I have no It was all day. Appreciate it. We love it. Thank you for doing this. We know you have another job But thanks for doing it. We also have a studio up in San Anez above Santa Barbara, and we'd like to invite you to drive up there and interview us in. Yeah, the homeless. It's all over the country. Well, we'll get a couple of microphones. We'll tape the whole drive.

Yeah. So, but anyway, no, thanks for coming. Thanks for having me. I'm going to fly on the wall. Jimmy Kimmel, ladies and gentlemen. Chris, thanks. This guy and Gus, is everywhere. Hey, what's up, flies? What's up, please?

What's up, people that listen? We want to hear from you and your dumb questions. Questions? Ask us anything. Anything you want. You can email us at flyin'thewallatcadens13.com. All right, guys, we got a question here. From Dave Castelletta

Castinetta I think Dana not now not here not now. We're trying to start the year off I want to see if I'm reading better than you What's it say about your eyes? I got sunglasses on Dave Dave did I get that right? Yeah, there was an hour in there Castinetta you both and I love the podcast. This is a great question. Oh, he's going, I like this guy's opinions. In your post, that's no years. Have you ever come up with a sketch idea?

Yeah. And if so, what do you do with them, garbage? Do you ever share the ideas with current cast members? Just wondering, you two are the best. I like when they begin with the compliment. You don't share them because then they would score and get laughs and where would you be? No, I I did for a while I would call them in. I would say I did I actually did it recently. Dan Bull is right there that I like

and I easy on. I really talked to you. That's a writer. Okay. But I do like that idea. It was very hard when you left because the pressure was off. So you'd sometimes go, oh here's a good angle on what's going on in the news. Or here's funny commercial parody. I'm sure it was dog shit, but you know, sometimes I comment, I don't think it's ever come to fruition. Even when you go to host,

I don't know if you did this, Dana, a lot of people come with, a few people come with a writer, like they get nervous. Yeah, like if they're a comic or they're from a show They say I'm gonna bring two of my guys Jamie Foxx or someone, you know, yeah Yeah, yeah, and it's such a different kind of animal to go write a sketch and fit in with all what they're doing They're not really against it there. They just it's so hard to make it work, but they a host

Understandably gets nervous and they go this these people know my sense of humor I think I did it when I went there I think it went in with a sketch idea. It doesn't always make it to the finish line, but they definitely do it. So the question is I After I did it with Bill Hader and he does that he did that Italian guy right little bit Really if that thing and then he had friend armiston

did that Italian guy, right? Little bit, little bit, little bit. If it had that thing. And then he had friend, Armason. But I got him, it had. I thought I would go in and be like the 100 year old patriarch who would just be like, I thought of a daddy. But then I would mime out violent things for the guests.

I thought, I was a daddy. I thought, you know, he bought the glad out. You know, and I just didn't call him and say, you should have someone else do that. Jason Sedancus could have crushed with that. Oh, you didn't call him. Oh, I thought you were hosting. If you hosted, you could have jumped it on.

I know. I was a little shy about it. The one that I thought of fairly recently was the world's first social path, which is like there must have been social paths during primitive man times. You know, during the hunter gatherer sage, how you guys saw what are you doing? Oh okay, are you hunting or gathering?

Don't just sit around, either hunt or gather or get the fuck out. And then it's like later on, he goes, where's Bob? I don't know. What's that hand coming out of the ground? It's Bob, I think. What'd you do?

I hit him with a rock. Am I weird? Am I strange? For one, I have these compulsions of killing things. Am I weird? And the guy goes, no, not at all. I mean, sometimes at night I just cut myself. I don't know what that means. Maybe some sort of freeest sentatian anxiety. Well, you know, Steve, I mean, he always waits till the grapes rot and then drinks the juice and acts dances around for hours. I don't know.

Are we weird? Sounds like I'm anyway. So I didn't send it to S. I'll leave it to the fourth part. But I do, I had that on stage because I can only do sketches in small rooms. I killed it one night, had it perfect. I'm a little rusty, but.

But I love S.N.O. But generally perfect. I'm a little rusty, but I love SNL. But generally, if we had a friend there, it directly, like, remember when I had left and I told you to do Hollywood Minute? Yeah. I called, I actually did one for Sandler, I thought one, I thought was really good for Sand. I can't remember it now, but I said,

oh, I think you'd be good at this, but, by the time I think I called it was the midweek, and you know, after that writing starts, it's just too hard to start from scratch. But anyway, he did fun. Okay, thank you for your question, and let's see what sunglasses we have on next week. This has been a podcast presentation of Kaden's 13.

Please listen, then rate, review, and follow all episodes. Available now for free, wherever you get your podcast. No joke, folks! Flying the Wall has been a presentation of Cadence 13, executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Chris Corquan of Cadence 13, and Charlie Feinen of Brillstein Entertainment. The shows lead producers Greg Holtman with Production and Engineering Sport from Serena Regan and Chris Bezlove Cadence 13. and of brilstein entertainment. The shows lead producers Greg Holtman with production and engineering support from

Serena Regan and Chris Bezel of Cadence 13.