Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Kings of Leon

Episode Date: June 5, 2024

Growing up watching Dana and David, touring with Bob Dylan, and performing on SNL with Caleb and Jared Followill of Kings of Leon. To learn more about listener data and our privacy practices visit: https://www.audacyinc.com/privacy-policy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit https://podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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This is Kings of Leon, who, huge band, three appearances. We had- SNL. Yeah, we had Caleb, we had Jared, Kings of Leon who huge band, three appearances. We had- SNL. Yeah, we had Caleb, we had Jared and the two representing the four. Brothers, the Follow Will brothers and their cousin and that is Kings of Leon. And they've done many albums and they're incredible.

They're really sort of, I love their sound. They were, you'll find them so personable and so humble about how big they are. They're huge in the UK. We find out all about their asymmetrical childhood. Father was a preacher and they're traveling around and they couldn't watch television and so forth and so on. But they're very, very, very interesting. We talk about their new album, which just dropped and they're going to play the form in LA. Maybe we'll be there. Yeah.

And they knew everything about us and SNL. They knew all comedies. Their dad would only let them watch comedy. Jared was quoting Red Red Necky, the Red Neck comedian. So they knew also about this podcast. They know how Spade Ours goes. Let's go to the tape. Let's look at the clip.

Oh yeah, they knew everything. So that was very surprising and flattering. We've never had that. So really, really enjoy hanging out with them on this show. All right, here they are, Kings of Leon. Oh, dude, I'm three days away from doing cameo. I love it still. John love is starting to do cameo. And then he said, yeah, well, I do get a piece of yours

if I get you in, you know, it's like one of those schemes. Anyway, how are you guys today? I know you've been doing a lot of press and you're about to go out. So we want to make this one your most fun one and relaxed one and whatever. That's my dream. This is our most anticipated that we've ever done.

Like we're very excited to be doing this. Oh yeah, so nervous. Huge, huge. Tell your voice. Anyway, well, you don't have a beard? Do you not have, did something change? Yeah, she's at home. That was a good one.

That was a good one. By the way, Dana, I have to get this out of the way. I was a little flummoxed because last time I played the Ryman, a couple of these goofballs were maybe going to come down and then they ran to a different show. Is that possible? Is that possible? Yeah, that was a, well, I was kind of pressured by Nick Swanson to come.

Oh, that's what it was, that fucking idiot. Nick Swanson put so much pressure on him. He knew that I was coming to yours and he gets very jealous. So he's like, oh, here you're going. I was like, all right, I'll. Oh my God, he just texted me and I'm like, does he know we're doing this? Cause I didn't tell him and I'm like,

I don't want him to go, those guys are my boys, ask him this stupid shit. I'm like, I'm not doing anything you text me ever. Yeah, don't tell him. He'll get. Yeah. No, but he's fine. He's like my child that has like learning disabilities.

Yeah, he's a sweet, sweet, sweet child. He's about as sweet a human being as they come. They, there's equal, but no more than Nick. He is a nice guy. But I was, I was so annoyed that night. I go, oh my God, he must have thrown a temper tantrum. I go, Nick, Nick's show was like at six. He does like a Twilight show or something.

I'm like, what are you doing? I like that. I like that. Yeah, believe me, I used to do the Mirage with, and Dave's done it. And it was a late show. It starts at 10. We hate it because love the crowd. Don't get me wrong. We're all fucking spoiled, obviously, all four of us.

But when you get those late shows and, you know, I'm trying to I swear, I always think music can get away with a little more, because if you guys have trouble you can kind of grind it out and if we don't do well it's you know it every 10 seconds when we don't get a laugh it just keeps reinforcing we're not doing yeah that's rough we you notice for sure I mean if the crowds bad it's it's brutal up there but yeah you're right we get to kind of just keep chugging along, but we'll turn down,

we just turned down a show in Mexico because it doesn't matter if I say it, but like they had us going on stage at 11 p.m. and I looked it up. There's a time change. No thanks. We're like two hours behind going on stage at 1 a.m. I would be dead.

Well, in Vegas, it's horrible that the show you actually at the stage at that hotel at like 1040, everyone's by the pool. It was 117 that week. So the point is you come out in the audience, there's nothing there. They're either past their drinking peak and asleep or they're just burnt. And for a comedian, it's really hard. You're just a tractor pull. You guys just crank it up. I'll be driving past like a pub when we're about to play some big place in London.

They're like 5 p.m. and I'll look at like a plumber and I'll be like, ah, if I could trade places, just just just just today. We'll go right back to being rich tomorrow. But just today, that's what that's what I call the beauty of regular people doing regular things. And believe me, we were barely middle class, five kids, and you guys have kids now. But regular people doing regular things, I have siblings to do it, and they're really rooted in it. And when you're in show business, isn't there always this kind of little edge to life? It's sort of this thing or what do you call it?

How do you guys deal with being who you are? We grew up dirt, dirt poor, like the real life Red Red Necky. Joe, Joe Dirt Pearl. Yeah, you got both of them in there. Red Red Necky, you ever fart? Yeah, I'm Red Red Ne necky. The redneck comedian. You ever fart so loud dog to stay away. Go, what?

I forgot to say come and get some. Come and get some. Oh, I've got my catchphrase. God damn. Yeah. Ever crap so big, you don't know. Go and get down there. Turlet. Come on, get some. You don't have to make say you you gotta got so big, got good.

It doesn't even matter. I met my sister only cause mama took me down, come and get some. That's it, I'm done. It's a trifecta. Go ahead. I could just sit here and listen to you guys the whole time. We're the least famous people to ever be on this podcast.

I've listened to every single one of them. Oh, you have? I love it. What? Huge fan. And so just being on here, we don't even have to talk. We can just listen to you guys do your thing. No, no, no. I need some credit. Dana, these guys, three times on SNL. A lot of our, a lot of our comedians we have on our friends,

we're not on SNL, but we like the comedy so much. want them on like um you guys have knocked out three you had three good hosts i think you had emma stone one time and you had uh james franco what a blast though to get it's gotta it's gotta tell you you're doing well if you keep get invited back because it's hard to even get on that show once for a band or a host, I think. Yeah, absolutely. We also had John Goodman was our third. Oh yeah, that's right. Your last one.

Oh, wow. He's talented. Can I just say something about you guys? You actually started this podcast. You guys, I don't know. I want you to talk about this because they list you as alternative indie. You clearly are gigantic. And then you come out with this album now

and it's even bigger, but you don't, you guys aren't celebrities. I don't know, you're not doing it to be cool. I think it's just who you are. That gives you such a cool factor. Like you guys, this album is so fucking great. I mean, I listened to it all weekend. I'm not just saying that.

If I was just trying to be nice, it goes some really good stuff on there, you know? But, so anyway, I think that you guys are humble about it, but the music's there, man. I mean, I played it for my wife and she wasn't familiar and she was just, you know, knocked out. So anyway, that's all I got. See you later.

Thank you so much. Yeah. Keep going. Okay. Ballerina radio. Okay. Do that. Do that.

Do do do do do do. You know, the creativity to keep that in there. Some of the phrasing kind of Peter Gabriel-y. We're stealing that from you, right? What, the doodoo? Yeah, wasn't that Opportunity Knocks? Is that where you're doing like this? Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, don't say that. Oh, no. Oh, wait a minute.

Oh, there's a little earthquake. Oh, no, no, no, earthquake. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,

no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no big influences on our childhood. We, that's why Saturday Night Live was so huge for us. Cause our dad was a preacher and we couldn't watch movies or television or anything like that. But he was obsessed with Saturday Night Live. So every once in a while. That's crazy. Yeah. That's weird.

He would be. So we get to watch that stuff. And I remember being a kid and watching, you know, chopping broccoli and all that stuff and all your movies. The only thing he would sneak in were comedies. So we did see that and Eat, Play, Trapped in Paradise. Trapped in Paradise is huge. Oh yeah, and obviously.

We'll get to you later. You guys are ridiculous. You guys are blowing my minds. No one has mentioned Trapped in Paradise. Really? It's amazing. Wow, Trapped in Paradise. Every year at Christmas, that's like one of the Christmas movies thatpped in Paradise. That's every year, Christmas.

That's like one of the Christmas movies. It's in the. There's a punishment. There's a big story about it, but you know, I was doing my manager at the time and Mickey Rourke. That was who Alvin was. Oh, the combo. Yeah, that's right. Yeah.

Thank you for my best sweater. Yeah. That was the best sweater. You guys, you guys pay attention. That's like, because you know, also as a band and all this stuff you're doing. I mean, you, you love specifics when people say, I love this part or this lyric. I wrote down one that I really like this from actual daydreaming. Your new album sounds like I could use a beating.

I'm warming to the feeling. Yeah. There you go. That's just such a great line. Yeah, actually it's, I kind of wrote that those lyrics to my wife had left town. She was going to fashion week. Oh. Like everyone's wives do. She's a waitress. It's a big season up there.

It is. Bottleservice, yeah. Trying to make her jealous of life at home. waitress it's a big season up there. Bottled service. Trying to make her jealous of life at home and so I kind of like started talking about like home is nice and warm, relationships are forming, things are getting fixed. I start saying all the stuff to kind of make her jealous but in the course I kind of wrap it up by saying I could use a beating because it's all bullshit. But, hmm. Well, the whole is great in some of the parts with lyrics.

Like, you know, there's maybe your meaning, there's how people are affected by them in the moment. And then there's just sort of a feeling. The power of words is what people were asking me about. And I said, when I went to the Lincoln Memorial and I saw the Gettysburg address and it was a hundred feet high and it brought me to tears. So I think the written word is so timeless really. And great lyrics just stick with people. You don't know how they're, how they're digesting your songs in any given moment, you know?

they're digesting your songs in any given moment, you know? Yeah, that's awesome. Um, for me, a lot of times the meaning of the song, I don't necessarily want to tell you because people take it and make it something so much greater. And I'm like, this is all me going to Jack in the box. Well, like chopping broccoli. She's a lady. I know if I didn't know, or she'd be the lady. I didn't know.

And my lady went down to the serious and she bought some broccoli and she brought it home and she didn't chop me broccoli. I can't explain what I was thinking. What? There's a lot going on in the fifties. That would have been a huge hit. Very simple. Yeah.

At home and his name's Coco. And like, I give him all these nicknames and mocha choco latte, all this stuff. Well, anyway, he's gotten down to where I just call him Mokaly for some reason. Perfect. I walk in and I sing Chopin' Mokaly. Ah, I have a quick question. I drifted off when you said you wrote the Gettysburg address, but when that was, that was, that was AB Lincoln or, oh, okay.

Yeah. Uh, um, but I want you to walk me through a little bit of you guys have obviously done well and it does it. The question is something about like, how long does it take to get ahead? Because you've been very successful, but if you're a regular band and I always hear about these record contracts, is it true that we don't have to say specific companies, but is it a general rule that they have sort of, they give you money, but you sort of give it back and it's very hard to get ahead money-wise, even if you do pretty well?

Yes. Yeah, I think it's probably similar in the comedy world that you make all of your money from playing shows basically. But yeah, they give you money upfront and then you just have to recoup that on sales and so if you don't recoup it, I don't know, we really don't even ask questions. That's why we're all broke. Does it roll to the next one? I heard I have a whole chart behind me

So but that's what I heard and you lose if you lose it then you owe a little more the next time Yeah, well we before or the band before we got a record deal. We got a lawyer. So we kind of know Smart we were ahead of that But we also signed our record deal right before the new record deal right before the new record deal policies came in. Nowadays, you don't get anything. They come take your merch, they take touring, they take everything. With us, like, but they do, they do say like, hey, here's a million dollar record deal.

It's like, all right. That's what sounds good. Here's a million dollars to go make your first record. Yeah. You go, where's all the money? It's like, oh, you're paying back those $2 million that they gave you. It's like they didn't give us anything. Yeah. It just basically just kind of kicked the can down the road a little bit. But yeah, I feel bad for young bands these days. I don't, I don't recommend it. Being in a band? Unless you just want to have fun, you know. Or if you're-

How to make money. Yeah. Is it possible in today's world to, or is it more probable to go to TikTok or go to somewhere else and just try to do it on your own and just hope something happens? Yeah. I mean, record labels are trying to do that. Nobody knows what they're doing anymore. They're trying to get TikTok clips, a 15 second song that you can slow down and reverb and it takes off on TikToks and gets like a million views. Before this album, we signed with a new record label and like one of their things at the beginning was like, we think you guys should be on TikTok. We're like, isn't a little late? Like

guys should be on TikTok. We're like, isn't a little late. We started at TikTok, started get a little theme going. And then like right before the music came out, they're like, oh yeah, you can't put your music on it. And we're like, what do you mean? Oh no. Oh yeah, that they're cutting down. So like, no universal kind of wall. So you just want us to like show us cooking at the house and shit. Like no music. That's kind of our thing. We can use other music who are not signed universal. So we got a lot of other bands pretty famous.

Oh my God. You can lay in other stuff. You know, that happened because I'm on TikTok, sadly. And I was putting a song underneath and they took it out later. Right, Heather? They took some song out and I saw an older one of mine and they took, it was some Joe dirt thing and they took the song out from under it. I was like, so it was just dead silent. I go, what happened here?

But that must've been what happened is they go through and say no more. Even though I would think it would help. I was at the God dang a Venetian this weekend in Vegas and the Sphere had Grateful Dead. And the best advertising for them is TikTok clips of people showing the concert. And it's like an ad and people go, oh shit, I even saw John Mayer had one. I go, oh, that looks cool as shit.

I wouldn't have been aware of it. I would have just skimmed over it, but that helps. I think you too said no filming inside. And I thought, God, you should do it because people get curious and they want to go see it. That's kind of a different subject. Everybody's breaking that rule. I've seen a million videos from inside this sphere for you too, but maybe those are people in the box. Nobody's filming the band. They're like, look at the fish above us. Oh yeah, that's right. Believe me like, look at the fish above us.

Oh yeah, that's right. Believe me, I said it was a great show and if you're super bored, worst case scenario, watch the band. I mean, that's the truth is there's almost too much going on because it's so big above your head and then you look down and there's four microscopic people and I'm like, is that them?

But you're used to just seeing that. How many are in your band? I'm pretty sure there's nine. No, there's 15. We cut down to 12. No, there's four like actual... That sounds bad, actual, but like four members that started the band. Four well-paid...

Four that fit on the album cover that have the last name. Yes, exactly. And then two guys who are on stage with us. Did you ever think of calling it Follow Will? Yes. It was called, trust me, when we first got through the record, it was a lot of Follow Will brothers, Follow Will, just our names. It was Follow Will for a second. When we said Kings of Leon, they were like, no, that's not going to work.

It sounds good in hindsight though. It's cooler. Follow will might be a good, the way you guys look, maybe a jug band. Yeah. The reason why I think we didn't go with jugs. There's another band from Oklahoma, brothers who went their last name of Hansen. So it's kind of like, bacon brothers. Yeah. That's the only one I'm aware of Hansen. So it's kind of like Bacon Brothers. Yeah, that's the only one I'm aware of right now.

Hansen still hitting it, aren't they? Yeah, I think so. They're still bopping across the USA. They better open with them, bop and close with it and do it a couple of times. Go ahead. Policy genius. I think this is a new, a new sponsor here. Life insurance, peace of mind, Dana. That's it. We all need it. Yep. Life is unpredictable and life insurance gives you peace of mind. Peace of mind. You got to think of the family. You got to get your family a financial safety net, protect from the unknowns.

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Yeah. We've had fights. I don't know if it was right before a show. Nothing playfully. Definitely after a show. Only angrily. We've had fist fights after shows before. Cause I had a fist fight with my brother Scott,

probably at 22, full blown fist fight. We laid the arms down after that, but that's the thing I'm curious about, you know, your cousin and the brothers out there together. And I don't know, it's a lot of together. You guys must have a lot simpatico personality traits. We don't fight at all anymore. But we did for a while. There were a few really big fun ones. Yeah, we gave it up about six months back. Yeah, it's not all the Partridge family. I'm sure I mean, you're on a bus,

you're stuffed together, you're in backstage and I've done it with Pete, with friends and you know, you're just together all the time, of course, and your family. So, uh, I'm sure it can lead to, and also you pepper in fame, money, feeling important. I'm not saying that's just you guys, that's me, that's anybody that goes through any sort of stuff like that. You definitely get a little different if you don't check yourself and it's just harder to keep everything cool because you know the greater good is to keep the band together and keep everyone happy and just we're lucky here let's just keep it going. Yeah and you're also kind of sharing a high that no one understands. So even like after the tour, when you get back home,

obviously I don't want to compare it to like what happens with military, you know, but like when you come home, it's kind of like, you look at your family and you're like, you don't get it. Like, it takes like a minute to go like, oh yeah, I take out the trash. I'm the one that, you know, you have to like put yourself back into reality. Reality. Well, like I'm sure your family and your wives know about it,

but the illusion of show business, your job is when you guys come out there, you're having a blast, you're fluffed and folded, you're in tune and you're kicking ass. And there's so much that goes into it that, you know, people would think I was on vacation. I'd say, well, I'm playing Chicago. Did you see the city?

Did you go everywhere? No, I was in my hotel room resting, prepping, going over my act, you know? So it's fine. It's not a complaint, but it is a show. And you want people to think you just showed up and just kicked ass, you know? Yeah, yeah. You get people who also think that you're on vacation too.

And so like, come like, hey man, you're playing Cincinnati. I'm going to come to that show. Like, you can definitely come, but I promise you, I'm going to be asleep by 10. You got to save yourself for the next night or next 50 nights. Yeah, totally, especially with the amount of vodka we're drinking. You know, the people get mad if you're not ready. Cause I, anywhere I go and they're like, they're like, okay, first of all, I know a great restaurant. I'm like, I'm going to eat early and get to the show. I can't like, and I can't get all wasted and I can't do this.

They're like, what a book and drag, dude. I'm going to do a little show and tell with my buddies. They're not really friends. I played Anaheim. We're going to hit Disneyland at 10 a.m. Yeah, exactly. We're gonna go to Matterhorn around nine. When do you go on, man?

You can run around. It's about two hours out of town, but you definitely have to check out this barbecue spot. I'm like, whoa. Dude, Splash Mountain, man. We're gonna hit it 10 times. When's your show? You might go to this show soaking wet.

It's worth it. You gotta do it. It's already done. You're gonna do it. It's already done. Now what about you guys doing a Kings of Leon tequila? Because you know how the celebs are all wearing that. We did a killer bourbon. You did? It's a rye. Well, we did a bourbon and a rye. We did like a 18-year bourbon, five and nine-year rye. They were real like small amount of them. You didn't hear about it because it was super, super small and they sold out really quick. Yeah.

Unlike other people, we did it for no money. We did. I'm just good job. I'm just joking. We got good job. Church lady, Shardon day may be coming down the pike. Come on. God, I would drink that.

That's my kind of communion right there. How does your dad take to that character? Because my people, religious people I know, and I have a very, very Irish Catholic mother-in-law and Baptists, they all loved it. I was kind of surprised, but you know. It was a hit. Well, see, we didn't have television. So SNL that we watched was like go to the video store and come back with the best of Dana. Oh, okay. Disca, the best of that.

Yeah. So we would go on like a full Dana Carvey stretch and we would have all the things and then you go to the next one and have all the things. So it was, Church Lady was definitely a big part of that. And I don't think there was any like sacrilegious, you know. It wasn't what it was about. I mean, it really was about me noticing as a kid that the women behind the

punch ball are sort of the backbone of the church, it happened to be a Lutheran church, but, and our parents were not super devout, so sometimes we'd missed a couple of Sundays and then we go, you know, in our church pants and go. And then you felt a little bit of a judgment. Yeah. Wow, wow, wow. Here we are again.

We're Johnny come Sundays. We quit. Oddly enough, we went to our grandmother's funeral and it was like a lot of people that we kind of grew up with in the church. Preacher definitely, he took his liberties when he had the microphone. It was like, can you believe,

there are people out there that think they can go and sing rock and roll music and make money. And he just like ripped us, and we're all sitting, like crying at our grandmother's funeral. It's like, oh, it's us now. I took my 50 out of the collection plate. Give me that cracker. Yeah, we feel that judgment.

So did you ever have to sing? It was our choir. Yeah, yeah, that's where that's where we learned everything that we do. Yeah, started, that's where that's where we learned everything that we do. Yeah, started with drums. My Nathan was the drummer in church until he could get tired. And then I was the backup. And then like little singing opportunities would pop like our mom and dad. I just be like, why don't you sing one?

And it was pretty obvious early on that, you know, we were going to little tiny churches throughout America and we were fairly talented. So when we sang, it was kind of like a, I don't want to say show-stopping moment, but it definitely, it was like one of those where everyone would be like, okay, this is, these guys are pretty good. There were tears.

Yeah, we would cry every time we had to sing. It's really amazing. This is in the eighties and you're in, you're in a car driving around. You're kind of mostly homeschooled and your dad's a preacher and you go come in town. You leave town. I mean, it's really an interesting, I don't think I've ever heard of a, you know, a gigantic rock band with that, that history. How does that inform you guys? I mean, we're weirdos, man.

Like, it made us. Yeah, but it's it's just the only thing I know. You know, I grew up doing that. But also, I mean, I guess it makes us more capable of traveling a lot and doing kind of what we do now and just living out of a suitcase. We also saw our dad work a room, a different room, different setting. I mean, we're from Memphis, Tennessee, so a lot of the times the churches that we would be preaching that we'd be the only white family in the church, like he would be working that room and then the next week we'd be in Oklahoma with like all these straight laced, you know and they he'd be working that room and so like you'd see kind of like Sometimes you got to bring a little different juice to this thing and to that thing

So now I feel like that's the one thing that I still kind of take from it and go like, okay This is tonight. We got to lean into that. We're playing sex on fire tonight At least one time, you know The crowds not here for the for the b-sides Yeah, yeah, and I do think that oh, sorry just the influence of that like Sam Kennison famously kind of Bastioned himself his stand-up style after preachers and thing, you know, going over a lot of your music this weekend, it's very, it's a lot of it's just really emotional. Not even sure why. It's not,

it's not always a blues song, but all of it has an emotional tilt to it. And I don't know if that's just your talent, but it's affecting, you know, the chord changes, the minor changes the breaking it down the vocal rhythm. I don't know. It's just emotional Yeah musically You know obviously you're always evolving You're always trying to learn something new and then show it off and sometimes you know Your skill level isn't good enough to where you should be trying to show it off just yet You know, he's got to work on a little bit. But as far as like the emotional undertone of everything, I do think that also comes from us traveling our whole lives and from a very early age, we

realized that if we made a friend, we were going to have to say goodbye and probably never see them again. Cause we were always on the move. So you kind of start to have this like hardened thing, which also made us, our relationship, our bond so strong, because it was like, we're the only people that we're gonna know forever, you know? Like we're not gonna have those high school friends

that we can call up and be like, hey, let's go get a beer. So I think there's always that, you know, thing in the song that's, you're not asking for love, but you're just kind of like trying to be like, Hey, I'm over here. That kind of thing. And I think the minimalism, you know, I, the baselines and sometimes the guitar solo refrains the main melody.

I mean, I just always love that sound, when the band's really playing just together. I mean, obviously nobody's going off on a flight of fancy. It's one, I mean, you're a collective sound and it's very affecting. Thank you. Yeah, we all learned to play together, really. I mean, I had never played bass before the band and had a month

to learn before we did the first EP. Matt was decent, you know, Nathan played drums in church, but wasn't necessarily a real drummer. Caleb could always sing well. I bought my guitar the same day he bought his bass and we had like, we had gone to New York and met with the record label that we ended up signing with and they gave us a Led Zeppelin box set and full disclosure we hated it we didn't even know that Zeppelin at the time and this is wow like not that that long ago but it was like all right well let's try to play like these guys we didn't realize they were so amazing.

But like me and Jared, I had my guitar, he had his bass and we're listening to Led Zeppelin. And that's how we're kind of coming up with stuff. And, you know, obviously our skill level was not there. But we just got along the way. It's like whatever we learned, it's like, all right, well, let's make a song about this. And then the next thing is like, well, let's make one about this. That's hysterical learning to let them not know you weren't as good as Jimmy Page

or John Bonham or the most. It took us a few months to get there. Well, to pass to pass them up. Who musically when you're little kids, it must have AM radio driving around. We did in the 60s in my case, who floated your boat? I mean, who did you kind of go, ah, I like that, or, you know, must have been some exposure. It would have to be like tame music. So a lot of 50s and. Yeah, I grew up on that kind of stuff.

My uncle was, he was the teacher at the school that we went to for one year. And he would drive me to and from school. And it was always the oldie station and be little games. Like I bet you a dollar. They play the rolling stones before they play Tom Petty. And so like these little games before you know it, you're building up like, you know, these influences. I remember it was Tommy James and the Sean Dales.

First time I had crimson and clover that I was like, okay, I'll that moment. I was like, I want to play music. See that that's making me nervous right now, because when I was in junior high, that song would come on for the dance in the gym. And I was a wallflower extraordinaire girl. I liked thinking, well, I try to slow dance with her. Yeah.

Yeah. And he told me what the song was about. And I was like, Whoa, so you, what is it about? Yeah. What's it about? Um, apparently girls virginity in the grass. Excuse me? Allegedly.

That's what I heard. Go talk to Tommy. I didn't write it, but I heard it from a pervert over here. Yeah, I'm going to jump off. It didn't make me think like, Hey, you can write songs about your own thing and not let people know what it's about. And it was inspiring to me. Right.

It took me this long to figure that one out. I thought I didn't know what day tripper meant by the Beatles that it was really, it was the rich woman saying to the guy, you can be my driver. It was her voice. It wasn't one of the Beatles getting rich and going, Hey, drive my car. It wasn't drive my car was a, Hey, you're driving my car. Well, it wasn't drive my car. It was a day trip. Oh, drive my car. Yeah, drive my car is secretly that.

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When you did SNL, was it fun to, I guess, first time were you 2008? Maybe it says so cool. Were there people there that you knew or you weren't as familiar with? So you kind of just get thrown into SNL when you're the music and you get to have any fun? Nerve city we I mean at that point in our career didn't matter what we were doing We were gonna have fun with it and probably be a little bit irresponsible But as to now like I say it meant so much to us When I was a kid all I wanted was to be on SNL. I'd never be playing music, but it was like SNL,

that was the thing. The first time we got the call, it's like, hey, they want you on Saturday Night Live. And we were just like, no way. What was the song that you led with? Was that You Somebody or was it? Well, I think we did Sex on Fire and you somebody and. Oh, you didn't both. Holy shit.

I think Sex on Fire. I think it was that one I messed up so bad in dress that we almost had to stop playing, but they kept going. I just remember going backstage and I was like, I swear to God that won't happen. That's not going to happen. Was it nerves? Oh yeah. And I took a shot of tequila and Caleb looked at me and he was like, Hey,

don't get too cocky. And I was like, not, I swear to God it won't happen. And then we played and it went over decently. And then we were at the after party, baby. Does it show a bump when you do those? Does, uh, back then, yeah, 2008, I'm sure. The bump, is that like the lead, like the picture of it? More CDs bump in your sales.

Oh, I'm sure we don't, they don't tell us that stuff. Did you do a bump? Is that what you were thinking? That's what got me through. We first of all, we you know, we had had four albums, three albums out that had all done decent, you know, big in the UK and Europe. And then we'd come home and it wasn't like kind of doing the same thing here. You're like, hey, we're back. Anything? Yeah. But SNL, we had had sex on fire, used some body, so things were cooking with gas. At that point, we didn't realize if it was a big thing.

We assumed every song was gonna be that big after that. And then- Nope. When we got invited back to SNL, the next two times, I feel like we were like, oh yeah, this is fine. But then we realized, oh, that was kind of special. That first one. Yeah, it could have been the last one.

Have we met Lorne before the first time? Yeah, I think that's probably how we got on because we had always wanted to be on there. And then we played a private party in St. Bart and before. Oh, funny. Yeah, before the show, funny. Yeah. Before the show we were on a big boat and it was a party, big art dealer or something like that.

And celebrities galore, all we wanted to talk to was Lauren. We're like, Oh my, of course. You're like, then we all found ourselves on a rocket ship and, uh, it was a pretty major party. You'll come on the show. Oh, and whenever you want. There'll be a rehearsal on Thursday. Let's see it with us and him and Penny Marshall. She was on there.

Oh, yeah, sounds about right. I just remember Lorne, like we were talking about, I think we brought up three amigos or something. We were telling him that whole spiel about how like he was probably asked us about our childhood because he had heard about it. We were like we couldn't watch stuff, but our dad would sneak in videos every once in a while. He pointed to like a little cluster of lights on a rock somewhere and he was like, yes, me and Steve, we wrote Three Amigos right there. And he was like, oh, I love it. We wrote My Little Buttercup in like 30 minutes or something.

We were like, we didn't even know. Oh, my God. We were just talking about like movies that he was involved with. Had no idea he wrote it. And then the best Lorne ever, he said, yeah, Steve is one of the funniest humans on the planet. When Steve drinks vodka, I think he is the funniest human on the planet. Right. That's a great one.

He did break it down. Steve has, if he goes to the third drink, then this person comes out, it's like, just really funny. He moves to number one out of 900. Yes. Oh, the 900. They know 900. You know all of our stuff. Good Lord, I'm running out of shtick. We're out of tricks.

Can we talk about... Well, let me ask if they saw the Beatles. Is that intriguing to watch the Beatles put together those albums on Apple TV? Did you see any of that? You mean, let it be the documentary? Yeah, yeah, yeah. This is so embarrassing, but I never, I didn't see it.

I mean, I'm wondering. I think you guys would love it. I know I would. I've seen clips of it and it's mind blowing the, the access that they have, I think. I mean, as far as, oh yeah, it's just wall to wall. And it's just sitting around this footage and you go to see them come up with a song and not get it the way you hear it. And they're like, it's faster, it's slower. They can't get a line. And you're going, oh my God, it's, I could tell you, it the way you hear it and they're like it's faster it's slower they

can't get a line and you're going oh my god it's i could tell you this is how you do this is the best way but then you see how it could be so many different ways and you see how any any band is sitting there and one person in the band could say i think this should be slower yeah remember when revolution came out slower you're gonna have And you go, that could have been the single. Totally. And someone won that battle and said, no, the faster... That must happen all the time. Any interpretation of those songs probably would have been amazing. A monster. They did it faster, slower, different keys. And whenever you start writing something like together, it's always like the, you know,

the one little thing that someone does. And you're like, I don't know, man, I have my heart set on this. And you kind of go like, all right, let's compromise and we do that. And then that ends up being the greatest compromise. Or you end up going like, see, told you. Oh, it's so tough.

It doesn't work. That's the thing. I mean, with comedians, normally we're sitting around writing with your peers basically, or David or whoever. And then there's usually an agreement when the idea comes up. Oh, okay, that's what we're doing. And I just wonder when you guys finish,

let's just take Sex on Fire. Cause it's just, you know, this thing, it's its own ecosystem, Such a brilliant piece of music. And you, you kind of get the rough draft or 99% finish. You go back in the control booth, you're all in there, right? And you hear it for the first time or there's a sense, did you get chills? Did you just go, okay, this is. Was everyone going, this is a great song or do you have disagreements? No, no, no, I didn't even want it to go on the album.

I thought I love it. I take back everything I just said. He wrote it for B-side on that one. Yeah, but it was kind of, it was doing its thing, you know, the song was coming. I had written some lyrics. I said the sex on fire thing and a lot of times it's kind of just like a little throwaway And you don't know it's gonna stick But then we had gotten it to a point once like alright

People were kind of enjoying it and then Jared and Matt They found like a little drum loop thing Mm-hmm that when we put it with the song, it was like, okay, now it makes sense. It lays at the bottom of the, it's like kind of under the whole track and you can't really hear it, but it just adds a, a dancey thing to it. And it's got this kind of droney dancey thing that, I mean, people don't even really probably know that it's on the song, but. So it's this, this wash underneath gives it this urgency and also sort of this well it goes like a little

Yeah adds beat to it before that it was kind of a little confused punk rock song about sex It was kind of like yeah, but then when you put the dance to it, it's like, oh, it's about sex Mm-hmm, then it may right and you can't really I don't know, I mean, I think Keis, Gene Simmons, say you gotta get an anthem. This is in the early days, get an anthem. And they did party all day or rock and roll all night, whatever it was. All night. Party every day.

This sex is on fire just for whatever reason, you couldn't predict it, but it became sort of anthemy. Yeah, you can't predict that stuff. I mean, we could, we can't predict that stuff. I mean we could We can go anywhere in the world. I don't care which Corner of the world it is you start just that little guitar apart banana and everyone's like oh, yeah, I know this Yeah, and I actually made it on a list of like best guitar parts and I'm by far the worst guitar player in the band.

And Matthew's like skilled and it's me going, and I made the list like right under Jimmy Page and Matthew. Matthew's like, what the hell? I'm like, I told you. You're not even anything. It was on my mom's list of favorite guitar parts. Oh, yeah. You know, rudimentary stuff. You can't, what can you say? Sometimes it just, it just works so well. Sorry, David, go ahead.

I was just saying sometimes the same thing happens in movies where you, like if they said to you guys, write on this album in order, the biggest hit on down, you'd probably get it wrong every time because you just don't know. And that's sort of the fun of it. Movies, we have scenes, even that you mentioned Tommy Boy, the scene where the deer comes out was the top rated scene, Joe Dirt, where I got chili dogs thrown at us was the biggest laugh. And then when the movie's out for 10 years,

you go, those aren't the ones you hear about every time. It's throwaway jokes or something else or quirky. So you really can't figure it out. Yeah, it's very hard to figure music, any of that stuff out. Totally. And the worst thing you can ever do is think that you've figured it out. Yeah, that's what I do. To write the next one.

That's, I mean, I feel like there was about at least five years, maybe 10, where even though we didn't know that we were doing it, we did in the back of our mind have a little bit of a formula that we knew worked. But when you try to recreate it, it's missing something from the formula. And so it just sounds like a little half ass.

That's what I was gonna ask you about. And it says, can we please have fun? No question mark or anything. And is that to this idea of like you have all the success and how do you not get trapped up in trying to recreate it or be this or that? It seemed like to me, this album is really kind of new, but it's still, you know, you guys, but you want to get away from that idea, right? And I guess the producer helped you the pressure of trying to repeat yourself and make a hit or you don't ever, or you got away from it or he had fun. Without dragging this to like a dark place.

Oh, I like that. We, I felt like we, we had gotten to a place where we were just, we were doing our thing, but nothing was feeling that exciting amongst us. We were just kind of like repeating ourselves. It's a job. Yeah. It just started to feel like, Oh, I can't wait to get home. Like I'm normal, normal for a band long time.

And then, then, uh, a lot of real shit happened. We lost our mom, I had a couple just a lot of like friendships that were kind of, you know, people were passing away. It was like a lot of just like heavy stuff and I ended up going on a little bit of a personal journey. And in the process, when I started to write again, I was like, oh man, this feels different. You know, it feels like I kind of like gotten to the next chapter. And I was a kid again. And like I was writing whack, it sounds like I could use it feels like I could use a beating, whatever. I was writing these lyrics that I was just like, Oh, it'd be so much easier to say something that's more palatable and people would be like, Oh yeah, it's. But it's like, I want to say something every now and then it makes you go like,

wait, what? You know, it's kind of your own viewpoint. Um, and through the process, I fell in love with writing songs again. Um, and through the process, I fell in love with writing songs again. And it, you know, I feel like all of us just dove in and it, it felt different because it felt like something that we hadn't done in a long time. And I think that, you know, surprising yourself also surprises the listener. And when things are a little like, it's an on set quarter, it doesn't quite fit. This is on stop the listener. And when things are a little like it's an on-set quarter, it doesn't quite fit.

This is on stop the bleeding. Lightning strikes a pose and you're unfazed. It's never gonna take your place. Yeah. You know what I mean? It doesn't exactly rhyme. There's something just cool that final sentence. It's just perfectly off.

Yeah. Yeah, I mean, that's when we're writing songs I just hope that everyone can see how perfectly off we are. That's the name of your next album perfectly off Kings of Leon. Do you guys get mistaken for any other bands? What do people think you are when you're out there? We're the Dixie Chicks think you are when you're out there. They think we're the Dixie Chicks. Is that true? Yes, it is.

The Dixie Chicks aren't that anymore. There's something else. They're just the chicks. No, they're just the ch. No. Okay, real quickly, because I have a question. Oh, first one other question is, are the MTV Awards, do you still, I have a question. Oh, first one of the questions are the MTV Awards. Do you still I don't know this.

Do you still do an a video for every song anymore? Is that way gone? You kind of do. Now they the record labels have you do things called visualizers, which is just like a really cheap music video. So you don't have to like there's definitely no like huge budget million dollar videos, but they just want something to pass around. There's something visual to get out.

I like those on YouTube where you see bubbles and you see the lyrics. Yeah. Yeah. I just enjoy that. Well, we actually, because we were so proud of the album that we made, um, and so unsure of how it's going to get out there these days with everything kind of being a mess. We took it upon ourselves to make music videos for all the songs. So we kind of did them all like here in Nashville in the studio and they're

visualizers but there's more to them. So we'll slowly start putting them out but I think We'll slowly start putting them out, but I think we have some really great stuff that's going to add for the music, but also kind of make people like us a little more. Let's go to a clip. He's using all your things. What did he just say? Sorry. He said, let's go to a clip. The, um, the, the for you guys, since this album was out last week. And then, uh, by the way, for people who are not familiar, you guys have always

been, uh, huge in the UK and your album is already number one in the UK. Number one, number two, who's counting. So when you go out to Hyde Park, it's gonna, there's gonna be some time for the album to matriculate out and then you're gonna do split screen or something and the crowd's gonna go crazy. I assume for comedians, when something new lands and works, that's a really big high And that's gonna happen to you guys because that's how good these songs are. Thanks. That's something that we haven't anticipated in a while.

Just like you can fill it. Like we can fill how this album is being received. And I can tell the guys, I'm like, dude, this is gonna be a sing along tour. I can fill it. I have a plan. We're gonna start a song and I'm not gonna have to finish it you know and if you can ever get that

going for you that's it but it is save your voice it's different though cuz you guys get to it's fresh you know when you tell a joke they the people in the room haven't heard it and so that eruption is just like gotta be the best feeling because this they've heard it and So that eruption is just like got to be the best feeling. Because this they've heard it and they've like you said, they've digested it and they know what's coming. That's fun. But they get excited when you start it.

That's got to be a fun feeling when you start one, they like and they all go, well, when I like a song, I fall in love with the song or something. I want to hear it a lot. Then in that environment with all the other fans, it's so communal because the songs are emotional. And so you guys are going to kick in and then they're going to see these other people love

this song, you know, these strangers around them. It's very argue about who has the better job. Now you concerts are still fun though for you guys. And, and, but you know, when we do jokes at work and it's new, like you said, new song, it's really nothing more fun than still being able to crack a code to get something that works because there's a million songs out there. There's a million comedians and jokes. So if you can think of a new way to basically do the same thing and it works, it's, it's, it's a blast. Yeah. I've got a lot of new things that,

it depends on the room. They, you know, you hatch them in a small room, like I'm talking like 80 seats, you know? And they're like little weird sketches. And then you go out to 2000 seats and it's different, but there is no greater feeling. And I have the good fortune to have some things they want to hear.

I mean, they're gonna want to hear Church Lady. They're gonna want to hear Chopped Broccoli. They're gonna want to hear. I mean, they're going to want to hear church lady. They're going to want to hear it chop broccoli. They're going to want to hear from Garth, a Hansen front. So it's a good problem to have, but then it's from, they're going to hear it. They want to hear from us. What does Garth have to catch up? Yeah. I feel funny. Like when I used to climb the rope and gym class, I put my lighter on my balls.

Climb the rope and gym class. I put my lighter on my balls. The first time I ever, the first time I ever fell down from laughing was Wayne's world to laundromat. First of all, you got, you had me on the ropes with the, I like them teeny and toasty, but then the uppercut of the tiny, tiny, whities. I looked back in my chair, fell onto my back. I don't think I've ever laughed that hard up that point. It was, I knew when I got the prop, you know,

and I was a grown man and these little tiny underwear had shrunk in the dryer day, but I don't know if you saw the movie. I don't know if I can contain you. So yeah. You guys are making my day. Jeez, this is my favorite podcast ever. I wanna go back before we, sorry, before we get off this,

talking about new songs and stuff like that. When something that David, that you do with your standup, and I see other comedians kind of be able to pull it off. It seems like you're telling the joke for the first time because you're kind of like half of it you're telling, but then you're kind of under able to pull it off. It seems like you're telling the joke for the first time because you're kind of like half of it you're telling but then you're kind of under your voice like kind of it's just a yeah this is a thought and it's like the how you're able to do that multiple times and still be believable that's like oh he's I'm his buddy. He's telling me a funny anecdote, you know? Right.

Finally, a good question. Um, well, the thing about me, that's great. Danny, you might want to tune in. I could talk about David's brilliance all day long. You do it first. No, I just, uh, I do like, I appreciate that you like that sort of style. Um, I think it's just kind of the way it's always been but if someone doesn't know me and they get dragged along,

someone wrote me an Instagram and they're like, it looked like you're not even trying. Like why do I have to look like I'm trying if it's supposed to be funny? Like how hard do I have to sweat? It's hard to do it this way also. It's just supposed to look a different way. You know what I mean? It's hard to do it this way. Also, it's just supposed to look a different way. You know what I mean? It's hard to throw away jokes. Like you're not thinking of them, but you actually are thinking of them. And you know, they're, I think about like, if we did that as a band, if we went out

and like, ah, we would just kind of like act jamming. Yeah. Well, listen, Bill Murray was the combo. He was funny. And then he's like, do the lounge singer, Star Wars, with Star Wars. And he's like, anyway, I love you guys. And everyone's like, you're not even, you're half singing, he's half talking, he doesn't give a shit. That was one of my big influences on guys.

So I appreciate it. Bob Dylan is pretty lo-fi up there these days. Yeah. Back to you. He's no-fi. We went on tour with Bob Dylan. Oh, shit. He's good. He's a fan of ours. He opened up for us for a few months. Yeah. Oh, that's nice. He was closing the show to sell for you. But Dylan, this was 10 years ago. At least. Yeah, it was a while. But you know, he's got his Bob Dylan thing now where it's like

you have to hear the line of the song to know which one it is yeah where are we like it's like oh this is tangled up blue oh yeah we love this one yeah yeah no they should have the words on the screen i i love his stuff since time, time over mine, whatever his recent stuff. It's soon after midnight and I have a date with the fairy queen and he could still write lyrics. Like, and his band would come to us and they'd be like, which hotel are you guys staying in? We'd be like, you know, the Hyatt, whatever. And they'd be like, ah, we're so jealous. Bob only stays at Holiday Inn's on the ground level so he can open his window and smoke cigarettes.

So like every, the whole. Oh, really? It would be staying on the outskirts of town at a holiday. We would be like king of the castle. We'd like the president. You think about how many people saw him and they're like, man, that guy looked just like Bob Dylan, but there's no way. Yeah. Staying here. That's a great David. Think about how many people saw him and they're like, man, that guy looked just like Bob Dylan, but there's no way.

Yeah. Staying here. That's a great. David and I did, I did Dylan once with David on update on SNL and he did Tom Petty. But everyone had a big top pet on it. Then we kind of try to make them different. It is a different sound, but it was a goofy update bit of course uh Dana before I let these guys go it says there is a typo here it says Jared was a straight A student um we'll fix that um and um it's actually who is who is the smartest? Um, he's probably, uh, we're all smart in our own ways. Um, but no, Nate, yeah.

Um, and who's the, who's the, who's the latest? It was me for a long time. I'm better at that now. I found out it's, it's very annoying. Um, and now I'm very punctual and I get livid when people are very late. See? Now the pupil has become the teacher. I'll text them like a photo of the menu and I'm like, I'm ordering for you.

Yeah, I love it. So three, six, three, pay being on time is an hour and a half late. Oh, yeah. Okay. That's my two heavy questions. Dan, anything to wrap it up? One time is an hour and a half late. Oh yeah. Okay. That's my two heavy questions, Dan. Anything to wrap it up? AI gonna write your next album?

They already did. Oh, whoops. Whoops. Oops. No, I hope not, man. You hope they don't get good enough to where we're obsolete. I doubt it. No, I think you will always have a, you'll be able to have that little bit of a distance

between reality and you'll go like, oh, it's missing that little thing, you know, hopefully. If robots are less of nerds than we are, then we should quit anyway. Yeah, I know. I wonder if robots might be too nerdy. I saw Joe Rogan clip this morning and it was AI and it wasn't him talking with, but it

was with his voice and didn't say it. And I'm like, we got about four months left before the whole thing collapses. I mean, was it kind of weird? Was it like, no, it was more statementy, but it was believable. Was it a digital company visually as well, or just as, yeah, it was him at the podcast talking about the Jake Paul Tyson fight. Oh, and I'm like, this sounds weird. And it wasn't off his, you know, his Instagram.

So I'm like, your story, your story about the teacher that one of y'all's shows that someone like, oh yeah, just his voice to say that he said some bad stuff. Like got the superman in trouble. Oh, that's another scary thing. That terrified me. They took his voice, put it in AI and said he said something racial and got him fired. Yes.

But what if like something resurfaces and you actually said it, maybe we can blame it on you. Now people can get out of it and say. That's definitely. I mean, honestly, almost nothing's believable both ways. Yeah. It could help. You might say that. Yeah. Unless they say Bob Dylan was at a holiday and they go, no, that one's real. He stayed on the first floor. Hey, would you like a, would you like a Chesterfield? My problem is everyone believes it's me. Cause I look exactly the same. Like, look at this idiot. He's at our hotel.

You look exactly like Bob Dylan. I do. I look like Tom Petty. You're not rude. Paul McCartney called me before the Zoom and asked for Backstage Pass at Hyde Park and I didn't know what to say to him. No problem. He's got it. You're kidding. No, they call the Kings. They're the Kings of Leon and you know, they're quite large in the UK. People like them very much.

Yeah. And if I could get a backstage pass, it'd be, it'd be super duper. But what if you run into Ringo? Give us Ringo. Love. They were like my brothers, my brothers. He said, love, love, love, my brothers. How about you, George?

Well, I was always John and Paul with the primary songwriters. What's Joe Biden doing there? Why is he here? Come on. The King's Kings really on. They do the song. Sexifier.

You can't believe it's not butter. What? Sex on butter. The tremendous, the tremendous, the kings of their own right. Donald Trump is a huge fan. I talked to him too.

I'm just trying to make these guys laugh because they, what if Paul McCartney, they give them tickets and they show up and it's Swartz and going, dude, dude, I have a show at four 30. No Cruz by Fox. Babe. We're playing the forum in three months so we can kick Swartz and off the Oh, you're out here. You guys on the list and Swartzen.

We'll come to that. And then on the encore, we'll do Chopped Broccoli. You guys have a keyboard there? Yeah, we got keyboards. I've already got myself on stage. Amazing. We can cover the theme song to down down down a little down. We can do.

Yeah, you guys play backups to Chopped Broccoli. So, OK, guys, get on here, you're going on another zoom next or you off? Yeah, we're on. They're not on some press junket. They're just doing some fun. Well, I like this whole thing. You guys look very comfortable. Yeah, they look cool.

Yeah. So anyway, all right, this is the corny part pleasure to meet you. You guys are fantastic and have a great tour And this is the awkward part where I press the red button says leave and it always feels weird No, I guess I'm gonna press it. It's a certain sadness Talk to you. We'll see at the forum. This has been a presentation of Odyssey. Please follow subscribe I'll leave a like, a review. All this stuff, smash that button, whatever it is,

wherever you get your podcasts. Fly on the Wall is executive produced by Dana Carvey and David Spade, Jenna Weiss Berman of Odyssey, Charlie Finan of Brill State Entertainment, and Heather Santoro. The show's lead producer is Greg Holtzman.