Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Mikey Day
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So, David, where are you going on tour? Let us know.
I'm still doing the catch me inside tour. It's been a blast. I have Spokane coming up on the 16th.
Great town.
That's great. I got Palm Desert. We got a lot. Tysons, Virginia, Richmond,
Charlotte, North Carolina, New Orleans. Is it New Orleans? New Orleans? Nalans down there.
Nalans.
Is it just nah?
Nalans.
At the Orpheum, Orlando, Clearwater, Vegas with Nikki Glaser.
Lots coming up.
Just go to davidspade.com and get those.
And thanks, Dana.
I'm glad that you're interested in that.
I would check him out.
He's one of the funniest stand-ups out there right now.
It's a great show.
Cheap tickets. Cheap, cheap's a great show. Cheap tickets.
Cheap, cheap.
Rock'em.
Cheap, cheap.
Rock'em.
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Hello Dana. We'd like to tell everyone we are starting with Mikey Day today who is a present
cast member, 10-year vet. We got to know him very well. I might have to say, I don't think we've ever had a sweeter or nicer person on the podcast.
We've had many, we've had many sweet, nice ones, but he was incredibly generous and curious
about our careers, which was flattering, but also very self-deprecating.
And we go over his tenure on S&L and he's on there now
and he's got some amazing, what's the pumpkin sketch?
What's it called?
David S. Pumpkins.
Sorry, David S. Pumpkins.
He wrote, co-wrote a lot of great sketches on that show.
We broke down a few sketches,
but mostly talk about the overall feel there.
This one was very S&L.
And then his co-stars, we talked about us a little bit, which is
normal, unfortunately. We kept bringing, you know, you throw a boomerang and it comes back to you.
He was curious about us because he's maybe in the age group when he was like a very small little boy.
is like a very small little boy. I was on the show.
A baby in a crib watching us.
Yeah.
He's the old war horse here.
He's the grizzled vet.
He looks pretty good.
Yeah, he looks pretty fresh-faced for being a grizzle vet.
But I hope everyone enjoys it.
We had a great time with him.
Here he is, Mikey Day.
Oh my God, I'm so sorry.
Sorry.
We've had this so many times.
The worst was Martin Short.
I know, but not again.
It's happening.
I'm like, I'm seeing my heroes on screen and then I'm hearing you guys do Lauren and I'm
like, I want to participate in this bit and I can't get out.'t get out. Well, what, uh, where are, where are you?
Are you at?
I'm in New York.
Okay.
I'm doing this.
I was in this very small role in this Jerry Seinfeld movie in Netflix.
Pop Tarts.
They're doing like a promotion.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
They're doing a promotional day and it's so funny because it's the only day I've had something
and because I've it's our two week hiatus so it's been at home.
And then of course the one day that I have this that I've been looking forward to and
I like went through all my stuff in my home computer to make sure that I'd be good and
then the internet was failing and I was like, oh God, I see them.
That happens to almost every person we do it,
so don't worry.
We don't need another hero.
That's very nice.
Can I ask you a question?
Pop tart, like if Jerry did that, Jerry Seinfeld.
Did I ever do Jerry Seinfeld's new album?
He's coming out, vinyl.
Go ahead. It's a vinyl album, comedy album, Jerry Seinfeld's new album, he's coming out vinyl. Go ahead.
It's a vinyl album, comedy album, Jerry Seinfeld.
And all this picture of Jerry and it says,
paper clips, why?
Sorry. Paper clips dot dot dot.
Why? Yeah.
But the thing is, Jerry as you know is a technician.
Like he worked on his Pop-Tart bit for like years, right?
And couldn't quite find the language.
I felt like I found almost like an Easter egg
of a fatal flaw in the bit.
And this is what it was.
Only about the stand-up, not the movie.
That's all I'm curious if he does the theme.
The idea was when Pop-Tarts came,
it blew right out of my head.
Like the kids went went this is crazy.
The fatal flaw because I'm in the same age group they weren't very good.
What? Whoa. Shut the fuck up.
No that was a lot of you put them in the toes of very little jam or good stuff
and that was the fatal flaw he was playing it like the kids were blown away but no compared
to a Twinkie or Hostess Cupcake.
Right.
They were like...
Let's go to the phones. Jerry's on line one right now.
I disagree. That's so funny. Yeah.
That's a pot take.
I used to eat the plane.
Really? But compared to like a Hostess Pie, you know, with the crust around it.
Dang it.
Like those... Yeah. When I was a kid, those were great. I feel like they're a lot now,, you know, with the crust around it. Dang dong. Like those.
Yeah.
When I was a kid, those were great.
I feel like they're a lot now, but I would, as a kid, would 100% go for hostess or twinkie
over a pop tart.
Yeah, yeah, pop tarts, that's fine.
We had them, but I'd be curious because Jerry, the technician, he would have some answer for
that.
Well, in the pop tart movie, when is it coming out?
Let's just promote that. Yeah, why not? Just count it as that. Well, in the Pop-Tart movie, when is it coming out? Let's just promote that.
Yeah, why not?
Just count it as press.
It's in May.
I'm not here to promote that.
That's fine.
Throw it in the mix.
I don't want you guys to feel like,
oh God, he's gotta promote his thing.
No, promote everything.
But it comes out in May.
I just found out at all.
No, we're, what we do on this show is we like to,
we vet and we shine a light on SNL cast members
such as yourself,
because it's kind of fun,
because we've been in the Mausdrom,
we've been in the War Room,
we know everything about it and you do too.
So David, do you have a question for Mikey?
Yeah, do you know this sign felt bit?
I was out the other night eating at a Chinese restaurant.
And we were laughing, it was all comedians.
And we were laughing at, when he said, chopsticks,
they've seen the fork.
And they're still, they've seen the fork.
And they're still sticking, just out of spite,
they're still sticking to chopsticks. It's. They're still chicken sticking the chopsticks.
It's very funny day.
He's fantastic.
Jerry will bludgeon an audience in a good way.
He will hit like bludgeon.
He'll go to the grocery store and just go around the store and have these
amazing observations. And over time, you just, you're just my favorite of his was so they,
the cow boo, they can't get them out of the forest and they wake up
and they're hanging from the helicopter.
What are they thinking?
I guess I can fly now.
I'm doing Edwin as a substitute.
Oh, it turned out.
And you guys know who Edwin is.
Oh, I'm thinking of Paul Wynn.
Who did Edwin?
Edwin was like from the 1940s,
he was kind of chubby, had a little hat on, he'd go,
whoop-de-doo, whoop-de-doo.
Oh, okay, yes, yes, yes.
Did I get it?
Hey, Mikey, have you heard that when Paul Wynn came
into a party in the 70s, he goes, uh, uh, smells like pussy in
here.
I think that's true.
That happened.
I think my friend was there.
Wait, did he do the mad matter?
Edwin.
Oh, he did.
That was Paul Lee.
He did. He did that was called Yvan.
Smell. Yvan. Yvan.
I think Adam Sandler had a little audio influence.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
100%.
I can't. I am fascinated.
First of all, I love you both obviously I'm gonna be
gross but I saw take it thank you let me I saw clean slate in the movie theater
Dana fuck 94 by myself and saw no I and I remember enjoying it. And Black Sheep in the movie theater.
I mean, Tommy Boy obviously.
No one was there by myself.
Black Sheep was great.
Black Sheep.
I'll tell you about Clean Slate.
I didn't really know what I was doing, but anyway,
in those days you'd have dailies.
So it was like 10 minutes of the movie
and so I'm in a theater.
I kind of by myself, I think, and I'm watching the dailies.
And I go, oh, it's terrible.
How many weeks do I have left?
Seven more weeks.
It's irreretrievable.
Uh-oh, but everyone's got a dog in their house.
Come on, man.
But that's very flattering.
You know, when we did a when we were talking about you a while back,
and for some reason I had a mental hiccup,
and I kept calling you Mikey Day.
We call it on the podcast.
It was in Barbies.
Mickey, I was calling you Mickey because I-
I was calling you Mikey instead of Mickey.
No, that's actually Mikey.
No, I remember, yeah.
Yeah, I'm sorry about that.
It's because I worked with Mickey Rooney.
I worked with Mickey. Mickey Rooney
I worked with Mickey Rooney. Oh, that's what got in my head
But so you were Michael and how did you become Mikey? Is that I know I use the it's a big jump the child
Devon Walker on the show was like and are you sticking with Mikey?
Adult life this is going to change it.
I was always Michael and then in college,
people just started calling me Mikey
and it just kind of stuck.
But I think I remember my first year here,
the first pitch meeting,
Lauren kind of going,
like, is this grown man going by Mikey?
Is this what we're doing here?
Do I need to call this grown man going by Mikey? Is this what we're doing here?
Do I need to call this grown man Mikey?
But yeah, it's just-
Have you thought about Big Mike?
Have you thought about something?
Big Mike, does everyone do low when they come on?
Yeah, of course.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, you have a little breath coming.
You have a breathy.
Ooh, that's a new thing.
Let's see how you go.
Yeah, yeah. Oh, that's a new thing. Yeah. Let's see how you go. Yeah. Yeah.
Wow.
You look a little like Ed Sullivan.
I'm sorry to go back in the 70s again.
I mean, I'm not.
Yeah.
You hear like Bill Hader's and stuff.
You're like, oh, okay.
Bill Hader, who's that little quiet one is so hilarious.
It was me, Jip Domer.
Celebrity.
Yeah. hilarious. It was me, Jeff Dahmer. Celebrity. Yeah, we always like doing Lorne the bit of him
being excited about stuff because he's so even keeled. Oh my god, did you hear? Like, it's just
body imagining. Oh shit. Oh my on say is coming up. Everyone places it. Yeah, just about stupid nerdy stuff.
Oh my God, did you see the trailer for Deadpool 3?
Oh!
Deadpool 3.
Did you ever go to a Yankees game with him?
Oh, yeah. Once the Yankees games with Lauren are the best,
because it was like,
it'll be you, Lauren, and Senator Chris Dodd.
And you're like, what?
Yes.
Very cool dude, but it's, you never know who's...
I had, if you remember, I think he passed away.
We're going in Paul and Louis May.
Louis Mal, the French director, is coming with us.
You know what I'm saying?
You're like, okay.
He's never seen baseball, but.
But it's a grand slam.
It's like that thing of like the crowd's really going nuts.
Would you like another beer?
We'd like them.
It's better than a home run because the bases of course are loaded.
Yeah, sure.
Well, it's the fourth inning.
Should we leave?
And it's like, should we take off?
Should we go?
I was there once and there was a rain delay.
So we were in like the restaurant area near the, those seats, but like it was so
crowded because everyone was in there and there's nowhere to sit.
And it was weird just being like, I'm with Lauren and he has nowhere to sit.
We need to fix.
Do something.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And so these, we were just sitting at this like large circular table with these
very like Yankees fans, dudes.
It was very surreal, but it was like two hours and then they finally just
canceled the game.
Lauren's like, I see one bar stool.
I'll catch up with you guys later.
Deuces.
Just drinks up at the bar, slamming shots.
Lauren?
Lauren?
I don't know how you guys did the show before like cell phones and text messages because
the amount of information that you're constantly, especially on Saturday, did you just call each
other's dressing rooms?
I guess go and just visit people, I guess. I guess you need to. Did you just call each other's dressing rooms? I guess go yeah
Just visit people I guess I guess you need did you just talk to people?
Yeah, we did I mean we do that But like throughout the week like talking to props and stuff like we need this and just the constant communication
I'll say the worst part Mikey was
For the for those of you at home the show is on the eighth floor.
And not only are the offices on 17, but you still have to cross elevators, I think.
So you have to go take two different elevators to get back to your office.
And it was all day going back and forth because you couldn't text, you couldn't...
If you call someone, they're never in their dressing room.
So you have to go look for people.
If you could text them, got the layer of stress of just
anything in Marcy Klein running around looking for
Norm McDonald or something, it's just all crazy.
So I wish I had that.
We didn't have computers, laptops to write our sketches.
So we had to drive them in from home,
hand them in on paper.
I would write them long hand.
Come back, type it out.
Long hand and hand them in.
Yeah.
You hand them in long hand and then they write my type.
I did.
There was like a big stack or something because I think I heard Mike Myers talking about
writing up Wayne's World and he said there was like a big bin or something of scripts
and he would just, he like put it into the, which is crazy.
Yeah, you put it in the stack and then they would take it like madmen type it one at a time.
I think we were using hieroglyphics. Hey. Yeah. And so we just did that and then you'd get your
sketch and you'd get it before a read through and you'd be like, oh my god, there's misspelling
or they put the host name wrong or they put the wrong and you're like, it's too late. We're in.
That's insane. Yeah. Now you just drop it in to the file
and onto the server.
It's all on the computer.
That's why there's an attachments are too much for me.
We had a bulletin board.
Look at the difference here.
We had a small bulletin board with letters of the week,
like maybe 10 letters that you could get feedback
from the audience compared to what you guys have now.
Oh, real social media. Oh, really?
The instant social media.
Oh, yeah.
The people going, I hate you.
There were some, oh, you should do this and that, but it was like 10 letters.
That was it.
A week that we just saw on a board.
That was the only feedback.
That guy likes me in Indiana.
That's insane.
That's insane. That's one.
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with iGaming Ontario. What was your journey?
How much you want to share?
You were a theater arts guy in high school college.
Yeah, and then went to UCLA and studied.
Oh!
Did you have a dream of how that would go when was SNL part of it?
Or you just like want to be in show business and want to make a living doing this?
Or both?
I mean, SNL was always kind of at the top, I would say.
But it just felt so far away and unattainable.
And then I started taking classes at the groundlings
and there's so many pictures of there,
there of people on SNL.
And so it felt a little more attainable,
but it still felt far away
and the odds would be impossible.
And then I went to college with Nassim Pedrat
and Taryn Killam who were on the cast. And then they brought me college with Nassim Pedrad and Taryn Killam, who were on the cast.
Definitely.
And then they brought me in as a writer.
Suddenly, Mikey doesn't sound so crazy.
Exactly.
Mikey, this sounds like a fox.
A Nickelodeon.
It sounds like a Nickelodeon show.
Nassim, Taryn and Mikey.
Hey, everybody, it's Mikey.
Hey. It does feel very Nickelodeon.
Whoa.
On an all new Mikey.
But they brought me in as a writer and then wrote for three pre-seasons.
Were you allowed to write for yourself?
Pardon?
Were you allowed to write for yourself?
No, I was just a writer at the time. Isn't that, isn't that horrifying?
It weren't, didn't you start as a writer?
Yeah, I was a writer performer, which is worse.
It was like pretending I could write for myself.
But I really shouldn't.
So you were like a writer and performer.
Yeah, but no one's writing anything for me.
And so I have to write and then I wheeze myself in two lines.
And they're like, what are you doing?
I'm like, no, I'm just, I'm the teenager.
So they're like, oh, Mike Myers can put a baseball cap on.
I'm like, you're like, fuck.
Okay.
Yeah, right for the cast.
I would go around to Sandler and Spade would be in an office
and I go, guys, guys, come on, anything this week?
Come on.
Exactly, what do you got for me?
What do you got for me?
I'll just go around to the office is going I can play kids
Yeah, exactly
No, you can't
Yeah, can you be a Russian accent everything was like can they just poke their head in some good writer and be like
Can you sing and I'm like
Sort of not too long you can't I'm like god damn it
They're like can you do a whatever impression? Yeah? Yeah?
How are you with a pogo stick? I got that one. Yeah. Yeah, I can do it. I can do it
Absolutely, can you do it at the table would you guys ever?
Do you commit at the table to certain bits or would you always remain see no we give it everything?
I stand up. I've stood up. I remember if you stand up, it's kind of like, okay,
it's a little bit of a swing.
It's on.
You better fucking nail it.
You ever go to the piano and sing?
People would walk over to the piano and I'm like,
oh my gosh, Cheryl would play.
I'm like, you better, this better be a home run.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You're like, ooh, it's mid second half.
I don't know, a piano bit. Mid second half. I don't know a piano bit.
Second half of a breather.
Oh my God.
It's hour four.
Yeah, we call it like dead man's curve like second half.
Okay.
As you light up on those last two, you're like coming to a close.
That area.
Dennis would just sit and watch us.
Okay.
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Dude, I wish.
My Russian dentist Miller is doing dentist Miller.
I have a new dentist Miller.
That was that dentist.
Dentist now is sort of soft spoken.
Okay, I got a couple of shingles in my pocket.
Nothing.
You want to go back there and visit the old team
out in New York City?
That's a great car.
It's not something I'm really up for right now.
All right.
Spudly.
You see what I sold my house for?
You might want to fucking Google it.
As a kid, quoting you guys was like the cool thing to do on the Playground.
And now my son quotes like weird gen alpha memes and stuff that make no sense.
I feel like for adults when we would quote SNL, like adults would watch SNL.
So you had some context, you understood stuff.
But now like I have no idea what comes out of my son's mouth sometimes.
How old is he?
He's 11.
And he just comes home saying, and like, you're my phantom tax, you're so scabity.
I'm like, what is this?
At least I can quote buh-bye and you understand.
Yeah, yeah.
There we go.
Buh-bye.
Was Helen Hunt the first buh-bye?
Yeah, there's only two.
Yeah.
There's only two.
Only two and it blew up like crazy. And the second one didn't even matter. It was Steve Martin, but we kind of fucked it up. But uh, I heard you tried one where you said did it once and then it was on American Airlines.
They would play it for the flight attendants saying, this is our reputation.
We have to fix this.
So every flight attendant might take a flight for 10 years and be like,
thank you, thank you.
I'm like, you're still saying fuck you.
So it's all bad.
Are we a buh-bye company?
No, no, no, no, no. When you leave Burger King now on the on the door, it tapes it said buh-bye company? No, no, no, no, no.
When you leave Burger King now on the door tapes, it said buh-bye and I'm like, no.
Buh-bye. Now did you write that one?
What do you guys say? I wrote that with Fred Wolf, yeah.
I wrote that with Freddy Wolf. Fred Wolf's great writer that was on there.
Were you at like out of town and you were on the plane and you were like...
No, it was his idea and he came to me
and I'm like, oh, this is just a joke machine.
You just put every cast member comes through,
say something. Everyone gets some screen time.
It gets a little more heated as you go
and Helen Hunt looks perfectly innocent,
perfect one to do it.
Yeah, buh-bye.
Do you feel, I have a question, Charlie,
sorry, sorry, it's my face here.
Charlie Finham, his name is right in front of my face.
I'm not crazy.
He's just one of our producers.
How was the interview?
Dana called me Charlie the whole time,
but I didn't correct.
But it is on the screen.
I'm just curious that you now, you're there,
and I was looking at the new cast,
and just this whole thing that I didn't have that much.
The new guys came in, then I left, but this turnover,
you're writing these multiple generations,
the Kate McGinnon people and Terram,
and now you have, I looked at Chloe,
Feynman, you have, I don't know,
Ago with him, I'm trying to get all the names,
Andrew, Pumpt, I mean, how do you,
are you like sort of taking people
on your wing a little bit?
Do you know, I mean, you're like,
you kind of know the system.
You're a 10 year lifer.
You're like brought perry as a quarterback.
You know the system.
I know how it operates.
But so when people come in and they watch you
and you're in so many things,
and we'll get to your superstar sketches
That you do they they ask you stuff you you feel you can help them out or what's that like with new new fresh recruits coming off the
Do you box them out you ice them do
They look like the aliens, you know, they look like Amelia Earhart coming off the mother ship.
Oh, what's that?
And close encounters.
They're in the headlights, but.
I would like Joe Kay's.
I'm like, first table.
But I mean, it's I feel like it's definitely very friendly.
I've definitely heard stories about kind of the show in past years.
It sounds kind of intense and the competition.
Maybe those stories are like blown out of proportion as the years go on. I feel like
if it's very friendly and everyone's pretty nice. You know what it is Mikey? It's like the Bachelor
where they're all friendly at the beginning and then it gets down to the showtime and you're like, wait, you're still here?
And it's either you or them, yeah.
And it's just the Bachelor,
they're always friendly until toward the end.
And then they're like, can I pull you aside?
He's been really saying shitty things about you.
And they're like, what?
And like, no, I'm just saying,
I just feel like you should know.
Well, the freakitude of somebody getting loose,
like going out and making a hit movie or,
you know, then the kind of the apple cart is sort of rocked a little bit.
Mike and I, with the freakitude of Wayne's World, at a certain point, they would bring
in giant stuff you'd put laundry in with fan mail.
That is, I can't imagine being on the show.
And a couple of past members were in a movie
that was not only successful,
but Wainsworld was like an insane,
insane cultural touchstone.
And you guys were still on the show.
Yeah.
Yeah, they were bigger than the host sometimes.
Yeah, it would be like,
when would you decide to do Wainsworld?
I remember as a kid, like they would air it on Comedy Central,
they would air one hour reruns,
and taping it and waiting for the little Aurora Illinois
little table access graphic.
And that's how I was kind of introduced to that era of SNL.
I remember when I was little, little, my dad showed me some rerun of Coneheads,
like of SNL. It was Coneheads on Family Feud.
I'd never seen the show.
Family Feud is a fucking great one.
I like named something you bite into.
And Dan Ackwood's like, a trapeze.
That was like, what?
It's so funny.
He's this, I love it.
Name something you eat with eggs, fiberglass.
Yes.
And Bill Murray's so gross.
It's so like, so smart.
It's so fucking funny.
Yeah.
Those sketches were long back in the day.
I was like, this is 11 minutes?
Well, they'd go to a commercial, come back to the end
of the family feud sketch.
Yeah, you're like, 11 minutes?
Yeah.
But. You know what, I just saw your,
there was a couple funny ones we're jumping around,
but the one, oh, when you were in the car recently
with Quentin and Louise.
Oh yeah, yeah. I think the traffic altercation one. Yeah, right. Yeah
That was one of the sketches that you look at and you go oh man, what what a brilliant notion
Tight very well done. Yeah, right or co-write that or has an ending. Yeah, I had done it a
a very loose version at groundlings and Sunday Company a while ago live with
Kevin Bernson and
Was like I wonder if you can adapt this I mean I had to change it a lot for the TV cameras
Yeah, yeah, it was cool that they were able to figure it out though. It's funny, they all, whenever there's cars and sketches,
they bring in these massive black sedans.
And so we both, you can't really see in the sketch,
but we're both driving, I think,
identical massive black sedans.
Yeah, yeah.
Generic, huge TV cars.
Packard from the 50s. Yeah gross inside. I
Did like at the end they pull away and then you can see for one second the green screen and how you got because I'm like
I didn't see the camera at the beginning
But then and then I thought it was a pre-tape because they were showing you from down here and her close-up
Yeah, and then when they pull away I go. Oh, it is live because I remember
Yeah, they did and then when they pull away I go, oh, it is live because I remember
Lauren used to say they always would rather have it live if they could and yeah, so and that was a great one I mean, it's cool when you can try to play with the I guess parameters of live stuff
like I write with Streeter sidela and
Streeter sidela and I write all the time together and we're always trying to think like
what's something kind of different we could do to play with the medium because it's cool if you can
score with a live sketch because the pre-tapes you just have more time and you can kind of
play with it a lot more and I think people are more used to seeing film stuff online, but to have
something that works live and kind of resonates with people is a lot of fun.
So just live, something can go wrong even in a great sketch. It just gets tilted.
Yeah.
It's a miscue and it can unravel even a great sketch. So for this one, it seemed like
your air, you landed it probably the best of the week that,
I mean, it really landed.
It felt great, yeah.
It definitely, Colin Joest,
cause there's a moment when Chloe, who plays my daughter,
Chloe Feynman, she is miming like you suck
and she's using, she uses both her hands and then Colin Joest in the whole way came up and pitched the joke.
He was like, you should say, I don't love that you use two hands,
which was one of the funniest lines in the sketch.
Big laugh.
Her doing that was funny.
You sang that was funny, calling her a bitch and pointing at her was funny.
And then you did it was hilarious
Yeah, that one to Brunson was perfect in it as well as pass. She's a great job. She was great because at the table I
Was like there's a lot of gesturing and I kind of gave her an example, but you can't really script out
You know, yeah, it's too many move your left hand
So she kind of was on her own at the table to kind of sell it and figure it out.
And she was great.
She totally got it.
And when you're watching cards, you don't know, like, if you're watching cards,
you're like, oh wait, this is the one where I have to go my left hand and I have
to stay in frame and I have to say this and do it.
And then you're like, now the next one, oh wait, eating is this.
Oh yeah.
Point back, you know, that, that and my, you could just people see
people thinking because it looked hard in my head going, shit, if I was there,
the cards have to be perfect.
You have to either write on them, remember to this or, you know, you have no notes.
You're just like, okay, we've rehearsed it probably twice this week.
That's it.
Let's go.
Yeah.
I remember during the blocking of it, there was.
An issue with the
Window and the reflection and you could let's see the camera and the red light and I was like oh We're gonna get screwed because of the stupid reflection because I've had sketches go to dress
Mm-hmm, and there's like some sort of reflective surface
And you just see the red light and the flipping of cards the whole time and you're like, No!
You just...
They're gonna cut it.
Yes, you know, you can just hear what's going on under the bleachers with Lauren and the writers.
You're like,
What the fuck is happening?
Torn to shreds.
But it worked out in the end, which was awesome.
And that's kind of the thrill of it when you're doing something kind of different. And I would say just for myself, sketch like that, like you guys are both doing
this physical comedy, the argument is escalating between the drivers. And then if we get to in
real time, see what you do, how you're going to mime out your insult. And so even people in a bar
in this kind of loud would probably watch it and laugh.
So you got some things going on all the time. And then it escalates into sexual things. And
had a really sweet... As they all do. Yeah, why not? Why not? Guilty as charged. Not in bulbous parts.
Throbbing in... But this other one that got called out recently by our friend Ben Stiller is another
Amazing sketch the home movie sketch. I know I don't write up. He's that was written by Dan Bola and Steven Castillo
Bola Bola Bola
Bola Bola Bola Bola Bola. Love them.
They gave me a great part.
It was like a little present.
They're like, here you go.
Can you do this?
It was so much so much fun.
And then Ben Stiller was such a kind, wonderful man.
Tweeted that.
He is a very sweet person.
Like, you didn't have to do that, man.
And you gave me swag for a week.
It's so funny at that show.
You're like, I'm feeling good.
And then you'll have like a bad sketch bomb at table read. And you'll be swag for a week. It's so funny at that show, you're like, I'm feeling good and then you'll have like a bad sketch bomb
at table read and you'll be like, I suck, I'm the worst.
What am I doing here?
The next week, Ben goes,
I saw the worst sketch ever on SNL this week.
Yeah. It was the same guy.
Get that guy off the cast.
Isn't it bizarre? It's the same guy?
Let's check it out.
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I'm going to start tweeting compliments at Tess and Elkast members.
I just hit me how lonely it is on that show sometimes.
You know, one week you're like, I got one or two, three things at work and then next
week.
Yeah.
It's strange.
It's kind of the best, I guess, best and worst part because even if you have a bad week,
you're like, all right, there's always next week and it literally starts all over again and you can turn it around.
What did you think that so that it's been Biden's been passed around for a decade now?
Nobody, Woody Harrell said everybody, Matthew McConnie. Everyone's doing Biden.
He's a puzzle.
He's a puzzle. He's difficult. He's not, you know, Trump is obviously easy.
Just a madman spewing and stuff.
I mean, so many hooks and James is still teasing out the hooks.
Oh yeah, we love it. We love the run.
So funny. And then Biden is in this frequency
that's very difficult, you know, energy-wise.
Cause you can't yell.
Like I could kind of with Ross Pro, I could be
ga-m-m-m-m, you know.
Can't finish, can't finish, can't finish.
Time's physical and loud.
Hey, hey, hey, hey, huh, huh.
I just wanna quote all your guys' old stuff.
Can't finish, I like that one.
I'm enjoying this podcast quite a bit because this notion that you right now are having
somebody who's watching SNL for the first time, go, do you see that guy, that traffic
sketch that guy did?
Didn't even know your name.
That funny guy.
That traffic thing was funny.
Is Biden's kind of, we'll see, but I like that traffic thing was funny is Biden's kind of we'll see but I like that traffic well
Is but no one no one is really kicked
Solved by in in studio in 8h, which I think is a rock and roll room. It does
It can be quiet it can yeah generally speaking if you have energy at home base
It's helpful. You know, yeah
And he whispers but yeah, cuz he's into this I mean back in the day when he was doing, you know, you know running with Obama
Sudeik has played him. He's so funny. He's like yeah, I'm dying because he was like I'm gonna get on a train and just
Yeah, saying malarkey and like old school Biden was very like I I've had enough of your shit
I'm gonna call you out and he was a very
Up and happy. Yeah, funny teeth. Yeah now. He's this kind of older man and so
You don't want to go out there and be like lose your train of thought because it's kind of sad
Well, that's nothing. Yeah, you're right when he loses his train of thought. It's kind of sad. You know what I mean? Well, that's the thing. Yeah, you're right.
When he loses his train of thought,
it's because, you know, he's, you know, an older dude.
It's like he got hit with a dart gun in the neck
right before the speech.
Then he's like,
ah, oh.
What was that?
What was his name?
Hey.
Yeah.
He's unplugged.
His batteries are going,
blah, blah, blah, blah. I mean, the only thing I could do is to try to make it silly, you know
So I have that hunter Biden is the only one who can really understand him. Hey, how you doing dad?
Yeah, it's gonna. It's a boy. No, I already ate but maybe tomorrow night. Okay, so say yeah, I do
So it's like not gonna do it.
It's like not gonna do it.
I mean, I just go, just make up what Biden might be.
And that's just-
Right, and then that's funny.
His son's the translator.
Dad.
Does anyone know what Hunter Biden talks like?
I mean, I just figure he's kind of a dude.
He looks like he's kicking it on the planet.
Just like an older of a dude. He looks like he's kicking it on the planet. Just like a well
Yeah, an older finance looking dude
Yeah, I do not know how he talks. Does any guy host ever come in and say I want to play Hunter? I
Don't know I don't think so. I know Pete played him and
He was on one of those wheeled hoverboards. That's all I remember. He just kind of passed frame on one of those hoverboards.
I guess because he's like, oh, I'm a young kid.
But I don't know if anyone's like cracked Hunter.
Yeah, because I don't even know what he sounds like.
The public doesn't know. I mean, he gave that little speech in the Capitol, but they don't know. Yeah, you just kind of know like. It's a generic guy. Yeah, there's not a lot
of voice that the public is aware of. I'm not. Yeah, I just go like this. Hi, I'm Hunter Biden.
When in doubt, just say the name of the person you're doing. I know. Oh, 100%.
Hey, wait a minute. It's Hunter Biden. Hunter Biden just walked in the room.
I'm Robin Leach. I'm famous. I don't know why.
I don't know why. She's know all my characters.
I mean, you guys were...
I think Hollywood...
Yeah, Chloe...
Hollywood Minute is the first...
The first time I heard the phraseology of hey the 19 whatever called
which and I liked it first time when it was called just called yeah yeah yeah I believe
it was pioneered there um I that did you invent that phrase David because that is a that is
like a thing in the ether now for you know the 80s called once they're shirt back.
Yeah, they did say in that Rolling Stones Iron Live thing that that was started there.
I think so, I hope so.
It still hasn't gone away.
It got kind of tired a little bit, but it still pops up in commercials and stuff.
But now it's just kind of like a common,
accepted insult package.
Yeah.
By the way, when I was watching the Super Bowl, Heidi Gardner,
she was in the Super Bowl more than Travis Kelsey.
She's a huge chiefs fan, too.
So she was in like every third commercial.
Yeah, I didn't even know, too.
I was like, Heidi?
She is awesome.
She was at Groundlings as well.
So I'm glad.
Yeah, she's a sweetheart.
She came on and talked to us.
She was great.
I know.
She's like, yeah, I did fly on the wall.
I was like, wow, you did?
Oh, I don't know.
Those guys don't like me.
I don't know.
Do you think they'll ask me?
Do they like me?
We want everyone.
We haven't talked to everybody.
Oh yeah, Bobby on.
Bobby Moynihan.
We should get Taryn on, you know, Taryn Killian.
Yeah, cool.
Taryn Killian who's had an incredible run on that show as well.
And...
Wait, what about, is it cake, Dane?
I have to ask him about something about you.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
That's a cool show.
Wait, you guys know what is it cake is,
and you're over the age of six.
I actually, I like it.
Kids love it.
Of course.
Oh, yeah.
It's just fun.
It's so, when they first told me what the concept was, I was like, what?
And like, is that all it is?
And you go, yeah, but it's there's a show there.
It feels very much like the show is aware that it's called is it cake and play?
There's like a lightness to it and it's kind of an innate humor to it
because of how ridiculous the
concept is.
But at the same time, it's really cool to see what those bakers do.
I mean, you know, you're a great job with it.
Yeah, it's a lot of fun.
But kids have responded to it and it's remarkable that they love it, not just the end game part.
They like are really into how they create these bakers, how they create cakes,
which I guess maybe because maybe it's like almost like a magic trick,
seeing how they how they do it.
But it's really interesting that kids respond to it.
And then it stumps all the dumb celebrities.
They like that.
Yeah, they're like, although Ago came on
and did very, very well, she was really good at it.
Too well.
She would find, yeah.
She won't be back.
I know, you're like, it's weird,
because for the judges, they're like, if they find it,
you're in danger of not winning money.
I just did a game show and the funny thing was
I was telling Dana is they want some comedy,
they all want some comedy and obviously
that's why they get you.
And then when you go out there,
do they try to juice you to be a little more energetic?
There is always in my earpiece, another one,
a little more energy. Well, I'll have some more energy.
I'll have some fun out there.
Yeah.
Explain the rules again.
Yeah, you're like, I just,
my least favorite part is explaining like,
if they do miss, then they'll go into the prize pot
for another $25,000.
However, if they're spared and you're like,
yeah, saying prize. I spared and you're like,
yeah, saying prize.
I know, and everyone's like,
we heard that right before the fucking commercial.
We know about the goddamn prize pot.
And you're like, well.
You show me the T-Rex that's made out of cake.
Yeah, someone hit it with a hammer and we'll figure it out.
But I mean, everyone involved with that show is fantastic.
They're very, do whatever you want.
It's not like, so we need to do it again.
They're very like, yeah, just have fun with it.
So I've been lucky in that respect.
No, it sounds like a fun one.
It sounds like a cool one.
You guys gotta come on.
I'll come on.
We gotta go, you're cutting out.
I'll come on.
Dana and David gave a very mixed possibly.
So they might.
We've got a couple of verbal, we've got some soft yeses.
You know what, I'm going to talk.
My team, my team will reach out to you.
I like that.
I like that.
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What about David S. Pumpkins, Dane?
I remember we had Tom Hanks on, we were laughing about that.
A singularity as a sketch, as odd weirdness, one of my all-time favorites.
And I know that you were...
Well, you know it's too special. I don't know how to describe it.
When do you know it's working?
I don't know.
It was so weird.
We wrote it.
It was like 4 a.m.
And I had gone to Disneyland all the time
because I grew up in Southern California
and went on when, I forget when Hollywood adventure
or whatever there.
Yeah, where things were.
California adventure.
Yeah.
And then there was that Tower of Terrorite.
That's what I'm trying to get to.
Yeah.
It's just very to me, lends itself to a sketch format with like a
doors opening and something crazy closed doors again.
And then so it made us laugh, but it's it's funny because there's no like hard
joke jokes in it where you're like, okay, well, that's at least we know a joke.
It's all just I'm weird and then them.
And it works though.
Yeah.
And when it works with that shit.
Well, could I could I insert this?
My point of view on this,
some sketches are so funny,
you can't really laugh at them the first time,
but then later on you'll laugh more
because there's so many questions.
Why are they in this right?
Who is this guy?
Why is the other, there's all these questions in your head.
And then when you start to process it later on,
it just makes you smile. I mean,
Hanks's commitment to it and joy of it was so funny. And then you guys being the people
reacting, it was just perfect. Oh my God. It is perfect. On read through day,
in between the first and second half, you know, you meet with the host and kind of briefly tell
them like, okay, you're
playing a crazy German man in this or whatever. So we told him, so you're just kind of this
guy, David Pumpkins, and he talked a lot more in the first version, but we're like, you're
just kind of a really upbeat and friendly and like you belong there. And he's like,
okay. And so I mean, he's Tom Hanks. so we committed, but, and I know we've talked about this,
I think Bobby mentioned it,
but in between Dress and Air, he's like,
I don't know if I have a read on Mr. Pumpkin's bed.
There's nothing to laugh about.
So then he on Air.
He's won two Academy Awards.
Oh, so he did something else with his hands or something?
Or Air just made it?
I feel like, yeah, on air is when he was really like.
He weirded it up or something. Yeah, he kicked it up to like insane because he's.
You watch the first one. He's just like staring slightly off.
He's just a complete madman, but it's like the power of Tom Hanks and coupled with like Halloween and kind of the feeling in the country
It was like right before the election. I just feel like all the ingredients were there
But it's been awesome to see like I'll see online of you know kids and
Halloween costumes and dress their dogs up as the skeletons. And there's a dude at Universal Studios during
Halloween who wanders the park as... Oh, which was like, all right. That's great.
We made it. That's when you... I love a Halloween costume. If you can get a sketch to be a costume,
that's a fucking bad thing. 100%. Yeah. Also, a lot of these sketches as Dana knows, the first cone heads,
the first gap girls, the first, almost first anything doesn't do that well because they're
taking it all in like Dana was saying. Yeah. They don't know until a lot of times in SNL,
you just hammer it home till they're like, all right, we get it. Fuck, stop playing.
It's a thing now. Yeah. It's a thing and we're telling you it's a thing. But sometimes these
organically they turn in it.
So the next time you come out, if you hear enough about them, so you do do it again,
then they're already and they get it.
They're on board.
And then it does way better.
But sometimes the first ones are crickets.
But how would you guys know, yeah, we should keep doing this because it was.
Letters.
I don't know.
I'm the first Hans and Franz bombed.
Yeah, sure.
Because they went because it was so they thought we're going to live heavy
weights or something and all we did was berate imaginary enemies with what we
would do now and believe me later.
Yeah, we'll come to your house and we'll put this ship if you'll flab
into a rope ladder so you can crawl back down in the sewer because that's
where losers live.
And the audience is kind of like,
who are they talking to?
Why are they mad at me?
Why are they mad at me?
I still do it to this day.
It's just sort of fun to be sorry.
Mikey Day is our guest.
Look at Mikey Day, girly man with your petite frame.
You're a grown man.
Ooh, little V-neck T-shirt. Ooh, a little v-neck t-shirt.
Ooh, with your v-neck.
Yeah.
Or snap that v.
What are you working on now, first of all?
So you're coming out in another 10 days, 12 days from now,
with a show.
Have you got a little something you can share with us
in your back pocket?
Who is it? Do we know?
Keep it quiet, though, actually.
Do we know Shane Gillis?
Who's that?
Who's Shane Gillis?
All right.
Shane Gillis.
This is a stand up, very successful stand up comedian.
No, we know.
He was actually fired.
He got hired to be on the cast and then all that stuff went down with.
You didn't say the word fired.
You said he got hired and all that stuff went down with you didn't say the word fired you said he got hired and all that stuff went down
You got let go let make this stuff go down, please
We're going in a different direction landed on his feet, but that was sort of an odd bizarre
situation and
What will it be like? How does the have you have you talked about it? I'm not sure I haven't really
Talked with anyone about it.
It was just kind of so, we'll see.
No one says anything there.
It's quite information is currency.
No one's gonna sit you down and go, what we should do?
How are you feeling?
Act like it never happened.
No, I think Shane is funny as shit.
And he, I think it's cool SNL has him back, good.
Well, we talked to him about that podcast
and I asked him, you know, I don't know if,
it's a line of demarcation in a sense.
Was he doing an impression, a character of someone
who says things like that, racist things?
Right, it's a tough question.
And he said yes, but he didn't make it clear.
Right, right, right, right, yeah.
Well, in all that comedy, things get thrown in.
Podcasts used to be just underground in basements.
It's just like guys talking to each other.
It's almost like a CB radio.
And then it comes out and then you go,
I don't even know what I said on that.
And then you're like, oh,
because you're talking to your friends.
So yeah, I mean, I think you paid the price
and you learn from things and move on,
but it's nice everyone says, hey, the guy's funny.
We paid the price, but now the price is right.
He means he's doing very, very well, Shane.
And he's a sweet-
You paid the price and now the price is right.
I say exact.
Bring back pumpkin.
Bring back my favorite pumpkin, but have Shane do the Tom Hanks part.
I don't know.
Everyone's like an unusual in the middle of February.
They do have David pumpkins without Tom Hanks.
Oh, does that suck?
You can't do it until.
Oh, unless you were.
You'd have to do some yeah special whatever
I don't know but we did and we did one another one with Tom Hanks and I
Think a couple seasons. Yes. Yes. He was just in town at that time. Yeah, and call like you want to do. Oh, right
Right, right. Oh, Tom Hanks is in town. Is anybody Thompson town
Throw on the pumpkin suit actually the bigger the star the less energy Tom's in town. Throw on the pumpkin soup.
Actually, the bigger the star, the less energy.
Tom's here.
Okay, let me...
Yeah.
Tom who?
That's such a funny observation.
Barack Obama was dropping by.
Oh, he didn't say his name.
He goes Barack.
Obama.
Royal Highness. Barack Higginbotham.
He's a new cast member.
That was the mere Putin.
He's in town.
He's circling the building.
Okay, do it on the scale of these five sketches.
Blink, what's your favorite?
Nursing Home with Kate McGinnon.
American Girls Store as the creepy guy.
Genetics Lab with Sam Rockwell. Live report. We're seeing home with Kate McGinnon, American Girls Store as the creepy guy.
Genetics Lab with Sam Rockwell.
Live report, you and Margot Robbie.
Margot Robbie, yeah.
Oh, is that live report?
Yeah, where Margot Robbie is a skrrt.
I'm just her husband and it's a news report.
Is that the husband that they can't believe you're together?
I honestly, yeah, they were playing you as like it was an impossible
matchup, but I didn't really see it that way. Wow, well, that's very nice. I mean, I look at myself
next to Margot Robbie and I go, that is an impossible matchup. I would be like, he must be a billionaire.
Right. That's more than every girl I dated in my life.
Really crushed.
Yeah, the dog one is fun.
We've done that a few times and it's always fun because it was,
it's usually a rider who has to go down and be the dog's hands.
Right.
You're sitting on the dog.
Genetics lab where they make a dog, part dog, part human.
We just say dog head man.
And then the last time we did it was Martin Hurley. He went was down there
with from please don't destroy down there doing the hands, which is funny because he's you know, such a funny dude
Yeah, he's on camera in these videos and we're like, hey, can you
Yeah, then down and snuggle up close to the dog and pantomime. You need funny hands because a funny guy
can get a couple extra laughs out of the hands.
Exactly, yes.
So we ended up going with her.
Anything else for this kid, Dana?
I mean, I have so many questions for you guys,
I have to come back on and just ask you guys questions
about all your sketches.
We like being asked questions,
but no one ever asks us any questions.
No way
way completely insane. I mean I
Grew up with you guys. So this has been awesome and I'm not gonna be able to say no
He's like way I grew up with you guys I remember when I was one and I'm like God that's getting worse like before I was born
They told me about you guys. I mean, no, that was very
formative for me. I would say I won't get, I said I wouldn't cry, but this is kind of why you
know if you said that why you want to do this is that you could be money fame all this stuff. But
if someone once while someone come up to me in an airport and say some
Bizarre sketch I did and that me and my friends
Reference that once a month you must be getting stuff like that with some of your sketches by now. It's nice to hear Yeah, it is nice sometimes
If I was in an airport and saw Dana, I'd say mr. Fung on the night of the murders
Shampoo now you just blow my mind that you just
That's a stand Dan had a stand-up special on comedy central that air
All the time. Yeah in the 90s. I did a 10-minute
Bit on OJ the premise of the bit was for OJ to be, it's either he's guilty or he's framed.
Let's unpack him being framed. 165 people had to participate spontaneously that night.
We're framing OJ. You in? I like OJ, but it's just too good. And it goes on. And then I do a
Marci. What's their name? Yeah, Marcia Clark. All my years as a prosecutor.
And then Johnny Conkran.
Why we even having a trial?
Oh, yeah.
Just out of the cool.
I think he plays jazz trumpet at the end, right?
Your honor, your honor,
if I I'd like to have sex with your honor,
just the his effusive.
Yeah. And if I may,
I'd like to play some jazz trumpet.
You know, whatever.
Oh my God.
You've made my day, Mikey.
I mean, and then David, I could dork out on Tommy Boy for...
A perfect movie.
A long time.
I'll never be able to listen to this.
I'm gonna be like, oh, you're such a dork.
You just spent so much time going,
I love your guys stuff. No, Dana're such a dork. You just spent so much time going. I love your guys stuff No, no, no, no survy too over the top, but I assume most talented people
have an inner critic somewhere.
Am I any, because where's this drive coming from?
Am I really any good?
So it's good to hear it from,
if you respect us or like our work,
just to say, yeah, you're doing,
you're kicking ass on SNL.
I wildly respect you both.
You guys are very kind individuals
for how legendary you are
and the roles you've played in my life, especially.
So talking to you guys was like truly a thrill
and I appreciate it immensely.
I would love to come down and weirdly quote lines at you
It's weird when you just kind of throw a quote at someone, but it's like for me all that stuff is so
So ingrained in me. So you just want to say I know this to the person. Yes, I do it to people too
It's fine. I like that. I think it's compliment. When you're sitting there writing a sketch or a standup bit and you're meticulously trying to find
the key to the kingdom basically and you find it and it's just a few words strung together
and then someone quotes it to you 30 years later you're like, ooh, they really heard that. Someone
heard that. You know? Yeah, it's weird. You kind of forget about the audience at home when you're
doing S&L. You're just like so focused on the studio audience and how it's weird. You kind of forget about the audience at home when you're doing as an hour.
You're just like so focused on the studio audience and how it is received.
You're like, oh, yeah, there's people at home who watched it.
And sometimes people will reference a sketch that, you know, aired, but you thought,
I don't know, I guess it's like a C plus, I guess.
Yeah, like it's easily forgettable.
Yeah.
And then someone to go, I love that one.
You're like like you saw that
Great and you're your Donald Trump Jr.
By the way is a really really funny take and I sure you you to get recognized for that because you were the wig and you
Yeah, sometimes. Yeah, yeah people will be just play him like a 1980s movie villain
Play him like the guy who's like, I challenge you to a ski race.
Yeah.
Whatever.
And if we win, we're gonna tear this thing down.
Yeah, it's kind of like Alpha Frat Boy energy
just coming super competitive.
It's a very funny Trump guys.
It was fun to do, yeah, with Eric, with Alex Moffat.
Alex Moffat.
It was fun to do the brothers.
He's hysterical, yeah. Well, thank you, Mikey. Thank you, it's been aat. Alex Moffat. It was fun to do the brothers. He's hysterical, yeah.
Well, thank you, Mikey.
Thank you, it's been a pleasure.
Thanks for the compliments.
Dana, thank you.
Thank you guys so much for having me.
We appreciate it.
Sorry about my technical issues at the start.
You guys are awesome.
It was an absolute pleasure,
and you're a good man.
David, final thoughts?
Yeah, Martin Short took two and a half hours
to get on, so it's fine.
Never worry about that. Oh my God! lots yeah martin short took two and a half hours to get on the spot never were never were
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