Fly on the Wall with Dana Carvey and David Spade - Robert Smigel

Episode Date: July 6, 2022

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What's up, David? What's our next guess? Who is it? Our next guess is Smigel. Robert Smigel. Robert Smigel, awesome. Robert Smigel, we're having a writer on one of the, I hope for many people's money, the best sketch writer of his generation. He's in the conversation for sure. One of the best, I've ever worked with. Hall of Famer, first time, Hall of Famer. Yep, Berlin Guy. Yeah, it's Michael. He's in charge of so many of the big sketches in the show. And I was always trying to write with him,

always trying to get in there and just get my name on a sketch because I know it would always get on because he's so good. He would write for you a lot and he'd write with you a lot. We had a good collaboration. We had a good collaboration. We had a good collaboration. with him, always trying to get in there and just get my name on a sketch, because I know it would always get on, because he's so good. He would write for you a lot, and he'd write with you a lot. Yeah, we had a good collaboration, because I was watching Regis. We'll talk about it in the episode, but I just started doing around the office, and then

he was a great person to partner with, and then he could get the rhythm and make it even better. Same thing with Carter, and stuff. We go through a lot of process on my side of the fence with Robert and it's really fun. We go through a lot of the me begging him to do sketches of me on my side of the fence. But he also went on his triumph, you know, the dog and he does a lot of great stuff for autism. And he has the night of too many stars, which is the funniest title of... Yes, and he...

He... He roasts us basically. We won't give it away. But beginning of the episode a certain character that he does that sort of canine like gives it just basically roast David and I for 10 minutes is pretty funny. You know I want to say how he does it but he sort of poops on us. Yeah. Yeah. Oh by the way Dana you know this Elvis movie is coming out not to change gears here. Austin Butler. Austin Butler does Elvis. And I'm such an Elvis fan.

I'm almost worried to watch it because I want to be really into it. You know, there's a funny Elvis story that we used to joke when Elvis was such a huge star, which he always was. Yeah. But he's such a stud and he would leave the studio. He'd have Sonny and Redett up front and they go, Elvis, there's a million girls out front. So, throw the coats on them.

So, he'd lay down in the back seat and they'd throw the coats on them. And then when they drive out, they'd all look and get around the car and they wouldn't see them and they'd leave. Yeah. And he'd get away. And so, they wouldn't follow the car. And so, in the later days, there was no one there. And Elvis goes, it's pretty crazy out there. And she goes, yeah, throw the coats on him.

Isn't that cute? They would still throw the coats on him. And there was no one out there. So he never knew. Ah! They better have that in the fucking movie. I always saw it. It's been a long enough.

I just saw it. You see, he died in his mansion, okay. And he was on the pot. So I assume a half hour before he died, all you heard if you were in the mansion is someone going, uh, are you some paper? I need some paper in here. Can anybody bring you some paper? Well, he needs toilet paper. Well, he hasn't poofed yet. That's the problem. Well, he maybe did, but he, there's no toilet paper. He said, can I get the news paper to read it? Because I'll be here for two hours. The other thing was like he would have Colonel Tom go on a private jet with people down

to South American cities and bring back young ladies for a place, you know. And he had a thing where he'd want them to, hey, let's not give away the first half hour of the movie. Where a diaper, it was one of his fetishes. What's your name, Prince Swell? Jesus, here's a diaper strap that on. There's just all true stories. You can cut teeth. I'll get arrested, but it'll be great.

I ran into Riley Kio the other night. What a great TV Awards. Yeah. The granddaughter. I didn't put it together, even on the huge Elvis set. Because I didn't recognize her. So she's sitting next to me before we're going out. I'm presenting an award and she's presenting the Elvis movie. Something about it. And she said it didn't recognize her. So she's sitting next to me before we're going out. I'm presenting an award and she's presenting

the Elvis movie, something about it. And she said it was a great movie. And you know, you gotta trust her. If I was in the Elvis family, I would be so eagle-eyed on that thing. But it's never gonna be as cool as the real Elvis. But she's happy, so I'm happy. I'm very interested in it.

Just because Colonel Tom Parker played by Tom Hanks is in it. Yeah, I love that. And he is Dutch and he Yeah, I love that. And he is Dutch and he was a really weird guy and he's in complete prosthetics. And you know, part of the 50% of the biggest star in the world, Mr. Presley. You thought Colonel Tom would be like,

Hey, everybody, I was president, but he's like, would you like to be a star, alpha, Presley? I guess he talks like that. That scared you. I just don't know. I need a perkardam sandwich. I guess he talks like that. That scare you. I just don't know. I need a perkardam sandwich. Anybody got a perkardam sandwich?

50% this motherfucker took a Elvis's shit. Fit to the very, very end. And I would say. He didn't have a great guy center. I'll tell you that, which I do have. By the way, James Austin Butler plays Elvis Presley. And he also played Tex in one of Pond and Zotsin. What's his name? That's a guy in a Zotsin. What is his name? Austin Butler plays Elvis Presley, and he also played Tex in one of Pond and Zotson. What's his name?

What's his name? What is his name? Austin Butler. Austin Butler. I was going, James Austin Johnson. Hey, man, I know it's a senior moment. You're the thing of any first names you could link together. Well, Austin is a very unique name.

It is first door middle. I plead guilty. I'm not gonna say about it. I wanna see, I think it's a unique name. James Austin Butler is a cute kid. He played text in one of punts, once upon a time in Hollywood. Oh, he did. Yeah, he was a guy.

I was real as a donut mother, fucker. That's your favorite. I saw you, you were rad in a horsey. Listen, scene. Not to get away from smuggle, but I'm gonna tell you that, oh, and this is one minute. I did see when your old favorite movies on the plane of all fucking things I'd never seen it

three days of the Condor. Oh, really? You talk about two motherfucking movie stars. Ooh, I see it every year. I'm a referred fate. Fade, done away. She was so hot. What do you want?

I just want it to stop. Ah, I love it. Condor, condor, where are you, Condor? That brings us back somewhere. Robert Smigel. Robert Smig. Condor, condor, where are you, Condor? That brings us back somewhere. Robert Smigel. Robert Smigel, from Robert Redford, and that is our tie-in, and we knew we'd plan this whole thing. Robert Smigel is very funny.

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And you were saying Lauren, you did impression before that. Before naming out. Mark McKinney, Mark McKinney did, the only person who did it my first year was Mark McKinney and he did like a beautifully accurate Lauren, like a well-observed Lauren, and actually said complete sentences. Yeah, and it was very impressive. But then the next year,

I just started doing cartoonity, Lauren on my own. And then I went into, I remember going into Dana's office. And, you know, and I admitting that I sort of do Lauren, like, you know, I want to really to show and look. I think Dana and then Dana's like, oh yeah, I do learn too. And Dana starts going like, oh, what do you think of Act 3? It was at that move. Like something Lawrence never done in his life. I think it was just perfect. It was like this self-satisfied. We still have no fucking first act. I've got no fucking first act. No fucking cold. Marcy look at the McCoy board. Please chapter two. Frank and write a bush Frank and write a bush Frank and write a bush

Frank and write a bush cool. There was a lot of bush called opening Frank and write a bush when you made the cartoon thing where you flip the pages What was it? What was it you? What cartoon? Why was doing Bush senior so much? I didn't know that the writing staff was kind of like again. So then I saw a thing, it's like a flip page where it was Bush taking it from me. Yeah, and he's sp- you spin it and see me as Bush. It was like a series of- it was like one of those flip-fucks.

Yeah, like a silent one. I was it was like one of those flip But yeah, yeah Like I was it it was like was it frank and putting bush cold open on the what was it? It was bush taking a poo or something. I thought it was scatological You could have I like frank and putting the card on them on the lineup after saying frank and takes a beating on your show He's coming he He's coming on. He's coming on. Very, very soon. So we're playing him.

He's becoming like, Well, Sarah got him back by stabbing him in the head with a pencil. Yeah. Did you hear that one? Well, I, we're through. I was not there.

That was after I had left for Conan. But do you remember this? Speed, I bet you remember this. So one of the impressions, I was the one I think who started that like me and Conan, I used to do this thing for Conan of Al. And I feel bad because Al got me the job actually and I love Al, but he was tough back then. And so everybody kind of, yeah, needed to release some energy. Mine was like, Al on his back and it like a snapping turtle.

Yeah. And it's going to flip me over. Yeah, exactly. Well, I thought that's why he would, when he was running for Senator, I thought he'll be great in there because Al is blunt and doesn't, he just says what he thinks. I thought that'd be good for him. He was great, but on the, but well, the boy, when he was in the Senate, he was my hero because he, he kind of like contained himself from being his confrontation. Like, I mean, at the show, his last few years at the show, I think, I think he was kind of unhappy to be honest with

him. I mean, he was like, in his 40s, and I don't think this is what he was dreaming of doing in his 40s. And I think it was, I think that's in his defense, like he was confused as to what he wanted to do with his life. And then he started writing those books, and I think he found direction. And he's always hyper political. And that was fun riding with him in Downey, because, you know, he's dreams and he's sitting next to Spade.

It read through and he's like, what happened? It's like George Siegel and just shoot me goes in the middle of a scene, he'd stop and he goes, he'd look at the crowd, he goes, I did a movie with Elizabeth Taylor and I'm standing next to this asshole now. Well, I remember Dan Hook's one saying to me, schmites don't become one of those writers who's 50 years old and wearing blue jeans and sitting on the floor. Flannel shirt. Whatever you do. That's always sitting on the floor with a nose.

Sure. I mean, you never grow up when you're at that. And a little sachet where you put your bitterness in a bitterness pouch. We're like, just keep loading things and else the fence to show I did six years. It gets mind numbing and it gets you're in a box of like no sun and pizza and ordering it and stress and everyone else's energy. And so you did a long run there too. You seemed pretty normal, but that was a long run. You had.

I did a long run that I got out when I was like 33 and to do the Conan show. And then I came back, but in a much more insane capacity, I just did the cartoons. Yeah, and all I had to do was show up on Saturday. So I wasn't really a part of the thing anymore, Yo he hecho un show up on Saturday, y no era una parte de la cosa, pero ahora era como, ¿no es todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo todo MailSimp analiza los datos de millones de correos electrónicos para ofrecer recomendaciones personalizadas. Para mejorar el contenido de tus correos electrónicos, segmentar tu público, entre muchas cosas más, adivina menos y vende más con IntuitimailSimp.

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Cause he thinks young Smigel's a fucking board. Yeah, let me see. Who do you got over there? He's been, he's been, been, he's been riding me ever since you're supposed to be about that. This is unique for flying the wall. We have a guest with a special guest. We have a guest with a guest.

He's just, I don't know. He just thinks that he can jazz it up, you know. He better behave. Should I bring him out? Yeah, bring him out. Why not? Get this. Oh goodness.

What? Here I am. Oh. Here I am. Oh, here I am. No, I'm the God Jesus Christ, what a long way. No, this is terribly exciting. So exciting. I triumph. Do not make fun of this show or us triumph.

I didn't please. Oh, I know. I understand. Those are the ground rules. I have to work with. No, no, no jokes about the show. No, no making fun of anyone. Okay. No, no, no jokes about the show, no making fun of anyone. Okay, okay.

No, honestly, this is a great show. Thank you. Yeah, what? Not for me to poop on. Oh, no, fantastic show. That's good. That's nice. Fly in the world, there's a lot of buzz.

I hear around fly. Yeah, good job. Oh, try out. Thank you. Yeah, the same kind of buzz flies make around my ass. You see it because it's not asses. Well, that's shit and the show. Yeah.

That makes sense. That you see the joke you get. Yeah, that's a good turn, but you're okay. I can't. It's what the dice just switch a root. Yeah, it's called a spade. It's a great show. It fills the need, you know, because let's face it. Saturday night live. It hasn't gotten enough attention or retrospectives No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I was thinking why why has SNL been written about only slightly more than World War

2 and today's show my goodness how did you land yes they hand up my ass seriously I'm worried I'm I'm a little concerned this is your first season you've already run out of people we care about. Now, smile is a big deal. He wrote a lot of great sketches. Hey, sure is everybody stay tuned. We've got the fourth funniest guy from the bear skin. And you have to explain what this sketch was to people under 16. It's trouble.

This is what you're looking forward to. You already did Sandra, rock, Mike Myers. This is what you're looking forward to. You already did Sansa, rock, Mike Myers. This is your future. This is pretending to be interested in questions like, tell me in coming up with God boy, which came first to you? The gold or the boy? Is it a boy who becomes a gold or a gold who becomes a boy?

Our listeners really are 10 remaining listeners are I know there's more we didn't get the news No, I keep I kid the game. Oh, he's kidding Dana. No, I know you're shows great. It's a very very successful money grab. I mean hit You have like how many subscribe you've got like 400,000 listeners, right? Yeah, I'm gonna say yes I'm not to this episode. That's for sure. But up to now, now it even's out here. The one we can hope today is to beat Alan's White Bell's numbers numbers. And who better to call host this show than Dana Carvey, one of the all time greatest cast members after they like you. Don't continue.

And then why would you say that? It's almost as if you think I'm going to hurt your feeling. No, I think it's a bit of a compliment. Exactly. Dana Carvey, one of the all time greatest cast members that's having a live and David Spade, who was also on the show. Spades everywhere. Spades is who was also on the show. No, Spade's everywhere. Spade is doing great. He's everywhere. This is, Dana, this is actually a boost for you. You know, audiences are living with you again. That's what's great. I only wish Dana that you did

this show like 15 years ago. You know, when podcasts were starting and all the people you do impressions of were still alive. Now it's like I've lost a lot of them. Now it's like hey folks, what would happen? What if Ross Perro and Jimmy Stewart weren't rotting corpse is slowly disintegrating into the soil. So it's got might go something like this. Yeah.

Well you're trying to be president. Yeah, that can't be one time. I'll just do it. There. I did. This meant your act. It's like the audio six cents. I hear dead people. I'm sorry. Is this wrong? This is a podcast. You're supposed to, you're supposed to be complimenting each other. Yeah. That's what it is right. I mean Yeah, that's what the artists are white people complementing each other. Yeah, we need more old white people pretty nice Yeah, old white people complementing old white people old white people complement that got a theme song for you Harmonized with me. Daniel. All white people, complimenting all white people, all white people. It's very hard to do over Zoom. I just realized. Yes. Listen, space. Yes.

I don't want to insult you. Okay. An amazing career. Thank you. Yeah. Tommy Boy, then starring in the string of hits it comes that no one remembers. Waiting for him to say, Clive, I'm loving. Hey, and God, bless Bernie Brilstein, right? He started the whole thing off right? Great guy calling the creators of just shoot me and gently coaxing Steve Levittan to hire his client I'm so sorry. No, that was a stirrup easy

If it he dipped in you know, I think we gotta put people we gotta let them know that's that's uh showed your thing You did your thing and did you think did try and hurt your feelings I need to know not at all little bits. No because I thought triumph is a little older now and maybe he was not like that anymore. No, no, it's like it's I'm older that's the problem like I didn't give a shit about this when I started trying to I like old white people complimenting other people. I mean, like that. I was like, there's 2.8 million podcasts. Are you kidding me? It's like, it's like COVID. It's just there's more every day and no one knows what to do and people are getting

affected with it. Here's what I've observed about this one because I've listened to a few. Okay. And what's very funny to me, Spade, is like, you're one of the funniest persons you. Okay. And what's very funny to me, spade is like you're one of the funniest persons in the world. This isn't old white person come. Yeah. Old white person come. But on this show, it's all about a life you lived when you were like in the 90s. And you're kind of have to revert. It's you're always reverting to that guy at the show who hadn't made it big. Yeah, like always like, yeah, no, you guys were incredible. And I didn't know what to do. Right. It's just funny to me, but it's spayed who's had this amazing run.

Well, it does. When we throw back everybody gets back in that around that writer's table and how fucking ordering Huxley's and all the stupid shit It sort of throws you back to the dim lighting and Feeling like shit all the time. You're a stressful. Do you consider it? I would say like I love the show so much and people I met and worked with and yet I was always stressed. Yeah I also remember how skinny your little office was like I think people thought it was some palatial place. It's these little dungeons and then I would

go along the line and poke my head and see if I get my name on anybody's schedule. Smuggle. Do you remember what I my affectionate nickname for you was? No, it's spudley. No, well everybody had spudley into the noodles. No, chief not in show. Chief not in show. Because I was never in the show. It's so hard. He was, but I wasn't in much. I think I would.

You got in it in 93, 4, 5. I did go. Yes, once Dana left. Well, that's what was weird. That's what was weird because you were kind of pigeonholed. I remember your audition. Yeah. And you were very funny, because you were kind of pigeonholed. I remember your audition. Yeah. And you were very funny, but you were kind of like spade light.

You weren't like letting your whole kind of person, a personal account later. And people like Sawya's, like this nice looking kind of blonde guy who did some impression. I think you did Tom Petty. Yeah. It was like, oh, he's going to be like a Dana Carvey type. And then, and Dana Carvey was still on the show. Yeah. I'm in pressure. I think you did Tom Pettit.

Yeah. It was like, oh, he's gonna be like a Dana Carvey type. And then, and Dana Carvey was still on the show. Yeah. I think people didn't know what to do. I think I didn't, but I also wasn't in full disclosure. Thinking I was the new Dana Carvey, I was like, are you, this guy's the, I go, this guy's the best guy.

And he does a million things. I go, I gotta find what I can do. And luckily, like, even at Hollywood minute, where go, I got to find what I can do. And luckily, like, even at Hollywood minute, where Lauren, I was sort of teedering. And then he's like, well, just do more stuff like that because that makes me a little different from Dana. And then I could find my own little niche or something. I don't know. It was tough. That part was tough. Even the receptionist, which was like the best sketch of that season. Oh, yeah. I remember

someone in a high position saying, yeah, they ain't gonna play that. No shit. No, of course he could. I came in and played something. Alien, right? Did I get a name in that? I felt bad because Jesus, I said,

you know, it's always hard, smile. If you're a writer and if you're a new writer, to put Mike Myers or Dana in something where they don't have a lot to do. But, you know, in your head, you're like, oh, it'd be fun. I have access to all these great people. And I don't know they're quietly going,

oh, that's not that great. But Dana goes, yeah, I'll do whatever. So I go, you come in at the end as nailing. I don't realize they're going to put them in like a three hours of makeup in there. Remember you had a big bowl with that on. I had a giant. And I was like, oh, no, I can't put Dana through this shit.

Ha, ha, ha, ha. And it also makes sometimes it's part of being on the team. Yeah, you know what? I have to say no one complains. He's getting still gets into crazy outfits and get his wines in a scale. I liked on the 40th anniversary. Steve Martin goes in full-kinged cutout for three lines in a song or whatever, because he's committed. It's fun.

I love it. And everyone's going to have fun. And it's also like 70 million people are watching that one. And it's all different. Yeah, you're right. Everybody's, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, the receptionist, I mean, it was so exciting to see a new person kill, too. Like that's one of the great things on the show when that happens.

Like that guy, James, when he did Trump for the first time this year. Yeah, he's great. It was like thrilling, you know It was amazing. Yeah, and when the audience finds it cuz I had been sort of kicking around the show for a while And that was a hard one to to get on. I think it took a few swing Oh the receptionist. Yeah, and then it got on with MC Hammer at five to one and Then the next time it got on first sketch. So that with Rosanne. Yeah, there's really got on with MC Hammer at five to one and then the next time it got on first sketch So that with Rose and there's really there's only like three so that's the one you remember It's like but by there's there's only two of them But you know if they remember what they remember you know church lay was on more than 20 times the first season

More than they had shows more than they had shows. Well, you had twice in the show. I was in a really chat and then I'd do a good night chat. After I went to, I'm the day with the person. I'm the day with the person. I'm the day with the person. I'm the day with the person. I'm the day with the person.

I'm the day with the person. I'm the day with the person. I'm the day with the person. I'm the day with the person. I'm the day with the person. I'm the day with the person. I'm the day with the person. I'm the day with the person.

I'm the day with the person. I'm the day with the person. I'm the day with the person. I'm the day with the person. I'm the day with the person. I'm the day with the person. I'm the day with the person. I'm the day with the person. I day on day in a car. Are you sure? I technically because of my contract when I cast. Yes. I own the church. That's right.

That's very different back then. You could like write. You could write a list of the characters that you created before going to Saturday night live and didn't have a long list. And so yeah, nowadays it's the complete opposite. Like they own everything and then you have like after seven years, you have to do movies with the, I don't know. I don't know.

I know when you do movies, you go back to the show. It is different. You do commercials and movies and you miss shows and you go back to the show. It's pretty cool for the cast. Yeah, it's really. And now that's true. Now, yeah, leading up to this 50th, they're all, they're all, they all come and go. They told me to go

It's totally my manager said right on the flight out there right all your Characters and give them a gym Henry and I'm sitting there with a blank piece of paper on a Delta going I don't know what character are you fucking talking about I'm gonna stand up so I'd go skateboard crazy guy Talks with the list, you know, I'm just like making up something in case I write it one day or in case it sounds like a sketch I do and it clicks. Anything like, yeah, you need a man or thing, but Robert, you want to talk about some of our hits? Your big monster hits. And you? Well, they're going to be Dana. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, Dana, so I was there for a year before Dana. And then I got in and 86 with Phil and

I didn't have any sex and he was like someone I had, I connected with what I loved about Dana was that he, Spade, you'll understand this like generally, like passive aggressive behavior rules at that show. Like, I mean, I could. Good. I could pass. No, my sketch is terrible. Don't put my sketch on. It couldn't possibly me.

I'm being paid. Like, that's what. And then there's people like, love it. So we're like, what's going on? They're anti-Semitic. That's why the sketch didn't make it. You know why they cut it? Because it's funny. That's it.

It's too good. It was too funny. That's why they didn't put it on. Yeah. I would say I was sadly a little closer to John. I was like, Robert, you have no poker face. Lauren, I remember him telling me. There were people like me. I didn't really make big stinks, though, but I was, you know, imitating Lauren behind his back like everybody eventually now everybody. I'm told, I'm told you go literally now everybody does learn. Oh, literally literally everyone. They all you've seen this. Have you won this? Well, that's what I heard James Austin Johnson had a good one, you know, and Bill Hader, of course, any reason, but I think people, of course, and he reached the cast.

I think people, they say that people just do it around the office. Oh, just around you. Just to each other. All right. Through, it's going to start. Everyone get to their seat. You know, and that's like a first time. What I love about Dana was that he had, he just came in.

He had a list of impressions that he like handed out to the writers like he wasn't He didn't pretend that he was above doing that Which was like so refreshing to actually admit that you care Throw it or anything he was just being straightforward. I just thought it made sense I was able to do a bunch of voices I thought well the writers know because I realized you guys are just writing sketches and if someone sees Casey Kasey or something, maybe they'd put him in.

I don't know. Of course. That's the best way to do it. Here you go. Here you go, Jack Candy, here you go, Odin Kirk, here you go, Conan. Robert, you approached me with was Robin Leach doing some kind of Japanese pruning,

or Erragami. I don't know all. I don't remember. Yeah, because you'd seen his name on the list, but I had a catchphrase for that one. I'm Robert Leach, I'm yelling and I doubt that law. Right. So I had not loved Robin Leach.

But then it was changed for every one under 70. No, but Robert Leach was such a white style. He's so famous. Another one of this celebrity that is no longer with us, one of my impressions You know Dino step monopolist who our listeners might know every time someone I do an impression of passes away He texts me another one another went down whether sorry Yes or Bush you're gonna kill and heaven Dina someday

Well, Dino did that I thought Robin Leach was so hilarious and he had a great hook for it. I don't know. Well, now everything, Dana, I thought Dana's Travolta was hysterical because it was so, it was so not what Travolta sounded like in the 80s anymore.

No, it's just like he's basically doing an exaggerated, welcome back to our new. Welcome back to our new. Welcome back to our new. Welcome back to our new. Welcome back to our new. Welcome back to our new. Welcome back to. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here.

I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here.

I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here.

I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad you're here. I'm glad weird. It's so, it's slacks. It's slacks. So weird, you know, you have everybody should just like we could be very much connected because we liked and doing, we liked doing impressions that were kind of abstract. We liked creating abstract impressions. And so, you know, Dana had some under his belt,

obviously, and then I tried to help them with, you know, Johnny Carson and Regis, the Regis thing was very strange because like I wrote it for Phil Hartman. I wrote it for Phil Hartman and it went to dress. Really? It didn't do great. And then Dana in his gentless non-cutthroat way just happened upon me like a week later and was like, you know, I'm, Regis is kind of small and Irish and like I had just had a total blank. I had just picked Phil because he was the oldest guy.

He's my number. Yeah. And I thought of, I thought of him as just, okay, he's the old guy, comparatively. But Dana was absolutely right. He looked more like Regis and then he started doing him. Well, I didn't realize when I started watching the New Yorkier essentially, just got on nationally, but we would get up around nine, Paul and I, and we would watch it, and we just fell in love with him.

Oh, yeah. And then when I'm guy in the world. And then getting to know you, yeah, just hanging out in your office and we started bouncing off, you ready for this? You're about to get drunk. This guy's crazy.

And you got all the, I think one of your things very Robert Smigel is about, you know, I'm doubt at the shriides and I'm behind Broca. I can't get a seat, you know, so we, we bonded. All of that thing of like the explosion. This was something that he really did on the show. And then the, yeah, Broca's got the front row seat and I'm sitting with, you know, Patrick Swaisy in the back. Anyway, it was a great event. Yeah. Anyway, it was terrific. It's like he's got nothing else.

So he just goes to joy. Joy was there. Joy, anyway, we wish them, well, yeah, when Joy hosted, that was always, Regis was, uh, but you can't let Dana around an impression. He keeps, he comes circling. It's like, all right, just give it to him. He's going to figure it out.

I'm out of control. And then his, when he wrote his book, they said,, they said we want to call it amount of control. And he had to go out. You know, well, he never said that. I'm out of control. That was something that Dan, Dan, a god, he made up, but I had to understand it. The garney. But the, you know, one, so we had, you know, and then Carson came around, uh, and just, I started playing around with it. I think the turners actually had written a Carson sketch. Did they? And I looked at it. You showed it to me and I had just a couple of moves in my head. And then it sort of brought out some moves that you had. Like the thing that I love Johnny Carson so much, he was like

incredible voice. In the 70s, when I was a teenager growing up, I used to watch him constantly and he was so charismatic and he's still the greatest ever. But then Letterman came on in the early 80s and immediately got some, you know, the anti song show or whatever you want to call that. Well, he was like reinventing everything. And then Johnny, for no good reason, started feeling insecure about it. You could see it on the show because he started trying to do things that Letterman was doing,

but he didn't know how to do it the way Letterman did. Letterman would just let them happen. Johnny would be like, we're about to do something. It's a little weird. This is a little different. This is not, not the norm. That's right. Yeah. You know, that's one of over. We're going to take a camera and it's going to follow me. I can't do them as well as you do, but it was like, just called. It's like, you know, you're going to punch your jaw. Thank you. He's going to follow me and it's going to walk out of the studio. And I'm going to go to another set.

Like, okay, we're all asked unusual questions to people. And usual questions of people are not going to know is even they don't know what's going to happen. All right. So let's start doing it. Now I'm walking. You see, I'm walking across. And this is a thing you were witnessing a bit. It's a little weird. And so that was giving him this little weird. And then I had this expression. He had a couple of things. Like when Johnny, like calls people over to the comedians, the funny stuff. Funny. That was

funny. Shuff. And then you had weird yeah, weird, wild. That weird wild stuff. And for those young home, you're watching a thing called a television. You know how you were bringing the audience. So I became that where we just did the overly set up Johnny Carson thing. And then it was so dry, it was maybe the driest thing you ever did on the show, Dana.

And then, but it always, Ed McMahon's, Ed McMahon's rhythmically kind of acknowledging it and, you know, giving it like, just like, yes, you were correct, sir. We'd always make it work. It was like, the fact that you would say these strange things and then Ed would kind of affirm them. Mm-hmm. Yeah, he was the release button.

But that was the first time, and I've said this before, but when I was on SNL and wasn't concerned with the laughs, I just was having so much fun being Johnny, and when I got the wig on, I had Irish, Carson, Carvey, my eyes are a little close together, and I go, God, I kind of look like him, you know, and then I could just look in the mirror and just get into that attitude of being just this whatever that turns into. What you're going to make up to, it's just that great. Really sent you up. And then the third rail of the ones that really had a lot of episodes, Carson did, Carcinio,

we could talk about that too. Regis had a lot of episodes. I love to talk about Carcinio anyway. Well, Carcinio, let's do that now. That was the extension of the Carson impression. Well, we did this. We did one before that. They actually did piss Johnny off.

And then the I don't know if they asked you to do that late night history show, but they asked me, so I did it. And I talked about it. And then they edited it to make it look like we didn't really give a shit how Johnny felt responded to it. And we did. We were really upset about it. Like we did this sketch where our Cineo,

so Chris Rock gets hired in like 1990. And- Plays our Cineo Hall. Yeah, which he didn't do, like I remember, that's another guy I got to see audition and he was hysterical and like obviously, you know, incredible obvious hire. But I remember asking, learn, does it matter?

He doesn't seem to be an impressionist. Here do our shenio. Don't worry about Chris. He's got the hair and he can do our shenio. Just remember, it's like black guys on the show, I always have the burden of having to do like every black person. Yeah, we talked about that. Chris, yeah. Oh, you did? A little bit. I think David brought it up. Yeah, it is tough because everything just gets assigned and no matter, you know, if it's even close. Okay,

Chris, you're doing Al Roker this week. Yeah, I was diverse now. I played, I played Tony Montana, as like a Cuban character, you know, I had a bigger, I wonder if you could write that. Robert, today, is like, can you write anyone to play anything, but they are, what they are. I don't know how they do it there. One of their meetings and go, could I play this or?

Oh, an SNL. Yeah, an SNL. Well, they definitely let women play men. Men, you know, they still let that happen. No, I know. It's interesting because like, even like something like, I mean, I totally, Blackface thing is obviously a red flag, and it's oddly, it's something we didn't do in our era. Never found it happening in the 90s. The 90s were a strange time where it seemed like the floodgates opened and people were doing exceptionally rude stuff. I don't know if it's because cable was starting and the networks felt the need to compete. But we try too hard and you go in different directions that are sometimes

wrong directions. You just don't know. And then it levels out. Yeah. But like I just did this puppet show that failed, whatever. Like and we had this guy who we was going to do Obama. And he had done Obama on the Conan show for like three or four years. And he just sounded exactly like Obama. So I wanted to hire him and then I found out that he was white. I didn't realize I had no idea. I just knew he sounded exactly like Obama and they said you can't hire him.

Did they ever call you now? Uh, the smile to a right or help or come off the bench and uh, no, I was there when Adam, no, they never call me. They don't know. Oh, they They know. Although I actually sent Colin Joseph an idea this week. Didn't you? Did you? You're back. Didn't hear back. Didn't have to win to her idea. I thought don't try to give him my raki Pete. That's Adams. Actually, you would be great for this on a win tour idea. Is that me playing him or a Dana?

No, I'm talking about Spade. It's a very spade. It's a very spade. Spade can own that. Spade playing on a win tour. The idea was that she was like an update feature where on a win tour is sitting next to somebody like who's Jared Leno?

He's always wearing something insane. They just had the Met Gale, Egalo. Yeah, yeah, Jared Leno, yeah, he's got great fashion. And then it was just gonna be on a wind tour very quietly and dryly and very stiff, insulting, Michael Chase out for it. Michael Chase suits, you know, like, is this a fundraiser for victims of fashion? And then like, you know, and then she turns to Colin Joseph, like, you know,

is that a suit? Or are you being hummed by a couch? And then she starts getting rim shots and just starts walking into the crowd and start doing walking around. Yeah, walking around the end. Funny. He stands up and starts doing crowd work. But we she's completely stiff, you know, and it's just that that time was any louder. Molly Matlin could hear it. For to look like Joseph A. Bank made it tonight. It looks like Joseph A. Bank made it tonight. What if triumph was at the Met Gap? What would he do? You're gonna get easy.

Actually, I've tried to. I've wanted to do the right part. That's perfect. That's one of the few things I still want to do as triumph. Please don't let triumph round Kim K. Well, she lost six times. She lost six times She lost six. She lost six.

She lost six. She lost six. She lost six. She lost six. She lost six. She lost six. She lost six. She lost six.

She lost six. She lost six. She lost six. She lost six. She lost six. She lost six. She lost six. She lost six. She lost six.

She lost six. She lost six. She lost six. She lost six. She lost six. She lost six. She lost six. but this is another one that I don't know if you want to talk about this, but I'll talk about anything. We're 30 or I'm 30 or 32 or whatever you were. And Dennis gets bounced from his indicated show. Yeah, and I have this idea to do. Dennis is now doing a cooking show. Right, which we we called Dennis and he said, fuck, go ahead. We did call him. I thought that I did call them. I didn't call them. But I still, I believe I called them. Yeah.

I don't think we, but that was like then. And I thought in my head, I was like, this is my duty as a Saturday nightlife sketchwriter. I can't play favorites, you know? I, this is my privilege to do it. It comes first. Yeah, that's how I seriously, I took it and reached to the show. I would say by like the time I was 40, I was like, no, I would

never do that again. Yeah. Well, I don't think at that point, there was any sort of idea that Dennis wasn't on his way with the career. Like he'd done the black and white special, he had the talk show, you know, that was see the star. I mean, all he did after that was hosting HBO show that got like 20 movies. Exactly. So to me, I thought it was so funny and the way you wrote it, Dennis's vernacular in a daytime cooking show.

I don't know if you could quote somebody. Maybe you're right, but I feel like I still wouldn't do it now. I wouldn't be able to, I'd be too nervous about whoever's feelings it wasn't. Sure. I understand that. I feel the same way. I like, I kind of sometimes feel bad for Biden

when I see him sort of lost or whatever. And so it's different doing it now. Because when you get older and life kind of kicks you in the nuts and you learn what pain is. And, yeah, you get more of get more you know how careers are so hard and up and down you're like I'm gonna probably hurt someone's career somehow accidentally. You know who it all looks like a spider web go ahead. The one person who would always scold me when I was even when I was younger and I guess it's

because he was sensitive to all the bad reviews he was getting was Sandler. He was like, like I was doing those cartoons and they were going really well. Yeah, yeah, those, they were. You know, and I would do a cartoon about like David Brenner or something. Yes. Being a guest on a talk show and it was fun with real audio and I would use a real David Brenner story

but I would have him going on every talk show and each host would get bored and press a trap door button and he would fall down and go like, you know, so he starts on like the tonight show and then trap door goes down the Conan and then it goes down to like Tom Snyder and then there he is. I remember that one. Yeah. And it was really funny. And everybody, I played it for Conan because Conan was in it and he was laughing really

hard. And then I get a call from Sandler. You feel good about yourself, but you feel good about that? No. Like, what if that guy's home watching, you know, he's like, got a hard day and he's watching the show and he's like, what is this? Why, what did I do?

Yeah. Why? Well, he did, Brenner. And he's Sandler could do Brenner on the show. He did a great David Brenner. That's right. He never won it. But it wasn't nearly as mean as this cartoon. No, it wasn't mean. It wasn't. It was. Remember the one you did where

you had you had Stedman hiding from Oprah and the mansion. Oh my God. That was that was from the Car comedy central show. And it's interesting. You bring that up because that was a cartoon. I wasn't going to do. It was one of those lines that I would draw for myself, which is people are always shocked. You had your lines. I did, but I like, I didn't like to make fun of drug addiction. I always felt like when people are, you know, that desperate. It's not funny. You know, it's like, you know, everybody, it's easy to reduce somebody to a cartoon character. you know, everybody, it's easy to reduce somebody to a cartoon character. But I that was one.

And another one was women's looks. I really hated making fun of a woman for her looks because women are held up to these ridiculous standards. And it just felt shitty. And so this Oprah one was Andy Breckman's premise. And the premise was that Stedman, every time Oprah wants to have sex, Stedman has convinced Oprah that he's an international spy. And every time Oprah wants to have sex,

Stedman pretends he's getting an alert and he has to go off. I'm not making it sound as funny as it. No, no, no, no. It was funny and so I like it. I broke'm not making it sound as funny as it. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, with Eddie Breckman and Eddie had this idea that I thought was to me. Now, the Bears. The Bears, the big one I love it as far as I was as far as the Bears. I just want to say very quickly that I know that John McLaughlin, which you completely created, loved our sketch, regis loved it, Perot loved it. George poor senior loved it.

Yes. It was only sweet Johnny Carson got a little tweaked and I don't like Carson. We talked about this one because it was like, so yes. So rock comes on. I got, I'm sorry. Cormenia rock comes on and plays our senior rock comes on and plays our Cineo and if this was at this time when Johnny was getting sort of threatened by our Cineo's presence, our Cineo was white hot. That's a bad

choice of words, I suppose, but our Cineo was like, please stand fire. Everybody was talking about him and we did that thing of like, now, understand that this, you know, that would over explaining thing. But in this case, it was like, now I understand you have a show. Dana, you should do it. You remember?

I understand you have a show. And it's, and it says here, he was like looking at his notes. It says here that your show is up against my show. Yes. And I said, he says here, I did not know that. And your ratings have actually gone up higher than mine. And mine are starting to decline. Right.

That's where I did not know that. And now it says here, it says further that your show is considered hip. And mine, I am starting to be considered out of touch. Yeah. Did you know that? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes. But the thing that Johnny got mad is that Dana? Do you remember this? It was the first guest. We had a throw away first guest before we bring on our cinnial. It was Susan day, right? It was Susan day. And I had written it

for Shenado Connor for Jan Hooks to play Shenade because she had already done it and it was hilarious. And she's very serious. And you know, you guys are just would be doing not a not a lot of hair on her head. That's just that is quite a boom. You know, all that kind of stuff. A little smooth smooth on the upper turf. Yeah.

Not a hairy woman, sir. From here to here, not in a lot going on. Lauren was like, you know, she's done she needs, she does a killer Susan Day, which she had done once on the show. And it was killer. So Lauren suggested, Lauren suggested it wasn't like it wasn't funny. He suggested what if he has Susan Day on, but he keeps wanting to talk about the partridge family. And it been 15 years since it got off. Yes. And so that was how we wrote it. And then Johnny took it as like, are you seeing this head? He said this on the show, they're saying I'm seeing him. He literally thought we were now calling him, She knew all because we had changed that opening.

That was the one that I thought was, yeah. Yeah. He said it as Dana or he's- No, no, no, they're real. She said it on his own show. He started- Wow, wow. Oh, wow. That's Saturday Night Live on his own show.

And Dana, I heard you say this to Regis, and it broke my heart, because I had never heard this. You said to Regis in an interview like, I don't know, five, six years ago, I saw, you said that you heard the Johnny said when they start making fun of you, it's time to go away.

Well, he would say it over in Burbank, just in the hallway, the big giant studio, and just yell it out. They're making fun of me now, it's time to go. Yeah, that, that, that, that, that, but what I realize, and I would take it for anyone in show business, that eventually you become a character of yourself.

If you're a comedian, it doesn't matter. I don't want to name the person you could see someone and kind of go Is that a celebrity impersonator or is that the real guy? So you do become a character of yourself. It's kind of flattering But you know for Johnny I couldn't get on the show after that I know Somebody from SNL did for a year. And he really took it to heart. And so that was heartbreaking for us. But then, then I think I also heard from you back then.

So then we did the carcinius sketch, which was basically Johnny as trying to be like our cinius. Trying to be like our cinius hall. And he was a big head sketch. He had the pointy hair and elongated fingers. And he would do, you see this head, all you have to do is go, whoop whoop whoop, and the audience goes whoop whoop whoop. Do you know that a house is called a crib bed?

Did you know that? I did not know that. You know, Robert, I did Carson two months before he quit as stand up. And he came back to the back and he goes, who hates staying in a car? Or do I do? And he goes, that's my boy. Really?

No, he didn't. He came back and said, I remember it was very odd to get on the show. I did do it two months before he got off. And he did come back, but he came back. And you were on Sarah and I live. He broke the code. No, I think I was on. I think I went off in 93, I believe you were absolutely on

the show. Yeah. Okay. Okay. For sure. But let me just say this real quick. Carvy told me that that he liked the carcinio sketch. Yeah.

You said, what do you say it makes fun of both of us? You know, they're making fun of our chino as much as they're making fun of me. I mean, that's that's funny stuff, you know, that both of us. You know, they're making fun of our shinoe as much as they're making fun of me. I mean, that's funny stuff, you know, that kind of thing. So I remember feeling a lot better about, and then he did start letting people on the show again. Mm-hmm. So I mean, I was saying I got on somehow,

and I don't know, just to did my crummy act and got out of there, but stopped it. He did, he weighed me over his mind. I didn't do that. And I left, I didn't go. You gave him the finger? and got out of there, but he did. He waved me over his mic. I did. And I left. I didn't go. You gave him the finger? Well, the guy backstage, McCauley, said he goes, get on there.

Hit your mark and get off. And I go, what if Johnny waves you over? And he goes, he won't just go do it. And I go, oh my God. So I went out and turned and left. And he goes, there he is. And did the level number. He goes goes wink he goes Martin short was with him and he goes have him come over and he goes I'm trying to but he won't look at me and he goes he's too nervous

all right there he goes all right well that was David's fate he said that on the air yeah that's amazing and then he came backstage where were you and I was fuck where they locked me there with egg I had my shirt off you made a fucking fool yeah and it was a BO fucking tor with egg. I had my shirt off. You made a fucking fool. Yeah, and it was a BO fucking torrential storm back in my room because I was so scared. I had my shirt off and I have Pepto Bismill and they knock and I open it. It's Ed, I think Doc and Johnny and he goes,

I'm thrilled. Yeah, he goes, I did, he goes, I didn't get to worry. He's a chance to say, good job. I wanted to come over and nice jump. And I go, oh, I didn't get a chance to say, good job, I wanted to come over and nice job. And I go, oh, I didn't see you or whatever. And he goes, pepto bismill, I'm trying to quit the stuff myself. And then he walked away.

Isn't that great? That's a fantastic story. Yeah, a bit. You did a bit, but in reality, he was broken inside. And he went around the office and said, when they start not coming over to the couch, it's true. Who put you up to this Dana Carvey, that fuck? So it's you, Spain.

Yeah. You're the one who pushed him out. Let's go ahead and let's go back and find him. Don't come on. Let's go. Oh, hit him high. You hit him low. Hit him low.

Well, talk about McLaughlin too, because we got, that was a great McLaughlin group. John McLaughlin ran a roundtable. Well, we got to everyone know you did McLaughlin. You did the Bears so many. You did clucky fucking Gaga, Gaga, gooey. Hey, what do you have me with? You help me with the clucky or which Mitszge you helped me with one of those two I was almost in schmitzge for a rough draft and then it went to Sandler and Farley

I know it went to pie that was that was downies idea and it was a brilliant call to take the two youngest guys in the cast and make them the guys That was that was I was I older than them I Originally I had it as Dana and Kevin because I thought it is gonna be the first sketch of the year and Dana and Kevin are the guys and then I don't remember a draft with you. I know someone maybe Shoemaker someone said I think you're and what remind me what the sketch is You're okay. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, Schmitzgate. That was a became a film didn't it? That was a big one. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, no. That was a gambiguaously gay duo. No, I think commercial parody. Sandler and Farley did something by a pool. Yeah, with Van Halen.

It was a parody. Yeah. Yeah. All those, yeah. So that was it. You know, sexist beer commercials. It's one of the ones I'm most proud of. Oh, it's great. A sterical, but that was an absolutely far from it. The gay people weren't like portrayed in

a kind of like mocking way. The whole joke was turning the tables on these objectifying, these ridiculous commercials that associate beer with objectifying women. And it just got this huge, it got one of the biggest responses. I was so great. That was a good band, Alan Song and it, you all, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, yeah, Farley and Sandler doing the song line. Yeah, it was amazing. But, but, Spade, I thought you either helped me with that

or Clark and Chicken, which is my personal favorite. Oh, Clark and Chicken, I don't know. I mean, sometimes I just get in there and try to help anywhere I could. I think you threw me some jokes and stuff. Maybe I threw you gaga gooey. That sounded like me.

The gaga gaga. Got a car for me. Oh, I love a. Hey, Sandler's voice. And that was so funny. That was a cartoon. I was half cartoon commercial parody. Yeah, cartoon.

Yeah, cartoon super. That's how I met the guy, JJ Settlemeyer, who ended up doing The first few years on his TV funhouse cartoon. Hey, baby, baby, five house. We'll go back on my show But you put Lauren's voice in there to anyone say anything That's maybe the hardest I've ever laughed in my life Because I became a 10 year old again Like the way I went I with when I was 10, I would draw cartoons of my teachers, that kind of thing.

And when a teacher would see, I would like, giggle like, and I remember the first time you saw the press rehearsal that the ambiguously gay duo ran and then this little cartoon Lauren comes out and chases the dog, Lego my my show, let go my show. And I'm watching Lauren watch it. Oh my God. And I'm just in tears.

I was like, you know, Lauren would call it, you put a beanie on the boss. You put a, what is that? It's just to make fun of the boss or a beanie on the boss. Yeah, it's like reducing the boss to a, you know, lower status. It's like, you know, Lauren had a term for every comedy move in the world. Totally. I've seen every sketch four times, you know, so it's hard for me. Everything you've, anyone's written, I've seen a version of it in one of my favorite recent

Lauren ones within the last five years around funny people people to do comedy There's only 900 of us on the planet. Oh really? Yeah, it's a specific number like well, maybe that's true I don't know run some numbers at 898 Yes, if you don't count Steve and Marty Steve counts for three Marty's he counts for a hundred. I think Robert White really did. I'm good. Didn't we ask William Schattner if he was okay with that sketchy road?

I think he was, right? Oh, yeah. I pitched it to him. And he liked it. The Trecky sketch. Yeah, that was a big famous sketch that you wrote. That still resonates all the time. That's a big, big one.

Well, I have an affinity for nerds because I was an SNL nerd. That's a big, big one. Well, I have an affinity for nerds because I was an SNL nerd. I was a big nerd as anybody. I was completely in awe of the show when I got there. I like new, who eaty-baskin and Leo Yoshimura. Like, I memorized the key. Talked out of the first. That's right.

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Did he insult you when he met you the first time? Do an impression of a gorilla, is what he said to me. Oh, really? Yeah. You know, this my ex on one time Chris Farrow took his mom to see him on one of the brakes on the weeks off and he goes and he goes, I go, what happened? He goes, we sat right in the front row and he goes, Rickles comes over to him in the

middle and goes, what's your name, Tiny? And he goes, he goes, my name's Chris. And he goes, how much you weigh Chris? And he goes, about 260, he goes, hmm, the left side of your ass maybe. And then he went to the next table. Yeah, then he goes, he knew that it was Chris, right? I don't know, I don't know.

It's just all funny. He's so funny. He's just like, I'm just gonna treat him like anybody else. Yeah, I just go, it says a fat guy in the front serve, maybe go for him. Yeah. He has a little bug in his ear. Yeah. But he got older fat guy three three lady wearing a flower box hat. Take four steps to the right side. Yeah. Closer. That's him. That's him. Get him. I took it as a badge of honor. I love being ripped by. When I met him, I was a producer at the Conan show, I think. No, I was doing triumph.

I think. And I did it for for Rickles, but I met him first. They introduced me because they wanted to make it okay that you know, make sure he would be cool with it. And he sees me and he just says, hello, Rabbi, which I later heard was a movie had for a lot of Semitic. I was moved. Like John Stewart told me once that that was the first thing he said to John Stewart. He had his big trip just to get safe offensive across the board thing to say. Yeah, you know, we've all got our standard zingers going full circle toward the end.

You think triumph never said the buzz around flies around my ass before you're sad. There's only so many mathematical ways to get into that ass joke. Okay. They can be flying around. But Regis told me once this was taught when one rickals was still on the road. You know, honest to God, some nights you don't know if he's going to bake it. They get him two eyeballs. He's rubbing his knees. Honest to God. I don't know when they play the music. It goes out and he kills him for an hour, kid. Then he lies down. I

like honest to God. Honest to God. Who's better than Robert Smigel? Honest to God. This guy is a bit webbing. you know, it's really is. It was really nice to me too. I, you know, one time this is insane. I had an idea for a sitcom and it's one of the happiest half hours of my whole life. I got to sit in the hotel room and pitch Larry King and Regis Philbin a sitcom where they played an old gay couple. And they took a dead serious like this is a great idea. And they had already like consulted Rickles about it. And Larry Kings like, Rickle says we can do it, but we can't be too swishy. Swishy.

And you know, we would just talk about it and read just the funniest was read just he was like, so Bob, again, I apologize for my inferior Regis, but it's like, so if we do this, you know, I know there's going to be a script, but not really, right? I mean, you know, we can get out there and Larry and I can just go off, right? Just play off each other. Right? There's a story to the, you know, it's a sitcom. It's got to happen. Yeah, but Bob, I mean, you know, Bob learning lines and, yeah, I mean, we have a natural thing. Yeah.

Rickle says, Rickle says we just have to look natural. I'm like, when did Rickles become the oracle of Sikur on everything by Rickles? Mr. C, C, P O Sharkey. C, P O Sharkey, 1975. Yeah. If you have a copy that you make, and you send it to me in Dana. Um, I don't think I ever bothered to write it somehow. They said yes. Did just meeting with me for a half

an hour. One one of the things that Smago has, it's one of the funniest titles is the autism benefit, the night of too many stars. It's the funniest song of Don. Thank you. We're both of you have done it. You, you've done it a couple of times, Dana, you did the first one and it was one of the greatest bits that it's ever been on that. We've done like seven of them. What was it?

Well, how will Naird rest his soul music? Yes. It was an incredibly great guy who was the music supervisor or supervisor at Saturday Night Live and for 200 years. For 200 years, he missed the first 300 and he would help me book, he knew everybody in music. And he would help me book the show with, you know, we had a booker who would be paid and then Hal for free would get me, you know, he got me Elvis Costello once, he got me Sting,

and this particular bit, he got me Lou Reed. And it was like a surprise appearance, the people in Roseland. Do you remember we did this in Roseland and they, yeah, crazy. And Lou Reed comes out and it's like Jimmy Fountaine, Lou Reed, he's gonna have an all-star band. And then one by one, he introduces the all-star band and it's all comedians.

Mm-hmm. It's on the drums, Dana Carvey, on the guitar, Conan LeBrayon. I think Sandler was there too. Jack Black, Adam Sandler and Lou Reed played it perfectly. Like this is the all-star band and then they did this incredibly funny, somewhat disrespectful, but a sectioned version of walk on the wild side. I love it. And it's on YouTube.

And then Sandler literally like is right his right face going, and g over to me and just was intense, Lou Reed and goes, don't do that. Don't do that. Don't do what? Whatever he thought I was doing on the drums, I go, I'm a comedian and I can't air myself. Don't play like that. He just got very serious.

Maybe it was nerves. But then we came out later, he was totally affable. He was probably just, that was the only thing he probably cared about was that it sounded good. Right, and I wanted to play, well, I just thought my mom and I come here and then and you did you did it. It sounds amazing. Oh, that's good. I guess I got it on the air show. We just had a brief rehearsal. Yeah, absolutely. It was kind of fun.

I mean, you know, incredible. Adams and great guitarist and Conan's a good guitarist and and Jack Blackson. I mean, these are like all the most musicals. They just happen to all be there. And that song is brilliant, but it is very, very austere and very simple, which is, you know, taking away comfort. You know, it's like it was perfect and everybody got a turn. You didn't because you were the drummer, but all these other guys did solos in their different ways. Right. You know, I learned a few things from Smigle today.

I learned that Franken and Davis hired him. Franken and Davis hired me. I learned. His dad invented crest white strips. No, that's not true. Okay. I invented, I heard that he did. You bonding, he was the lead out.

The whole tooth bonding technique. and I and Lou Reed hates Santa Carvey these are the only things I picked out another one at my impressions has gone to the stars I have inside inside onto this involves you someone told me today so Michael Gordon wants to go right for the the Conan show he talks to Bob Bob Oren Kirk and Bob Odenkirk. And Bob Odenkirk said, wait, wait till

we get smykle as the head writer. And then somehow you got, you became the head writer. And then, I know you're talking about the original Conan show. I thought you meant Michael Gordon wants to write for the new. Oh, sorry. This he's back in time when the, but he said, Michael Gordon, new Bob Odin Kirk. I think so. Or at least casually. Hey, oh, so funny. So good. Oh, my God. That's so funny. Oh, my God. No, you're not doing that. Are you? No. Was he mad about Chivino's? Because there's a rumor down he said, I was really mad about it. And I wasn't. Yeah. That was something down. He read online. He read online that you was the most ridiculous lie imaginable.

That you like Marcy and the Lohan dogs. Yeah. I just like you know, those people that you were like, you've been there for like four weeks. Yeah. I go. And what Marcy would have tackled the last per you could have been there for five years. You never would have pounded on Lauren's door. Yeah. That was clearly made up. But there's a car to get out of here. Was that exploitive of Chris or not? People have their difference opinions. When he did the chip and Dale sketch with a shirt off that I thought the opposite, which was,

I mean, I just have an inherent, I thought the people were not laughing at Chris. I didn't see it that way. I thought, because there've been a million fat comedians who exploit their bodies in some way or another playoff being heavy. Jackie Gleason. The thing that I saw that night was an audience

fall in love with Chris. Yeah. Because he was so committed and he was such a good dancer. Yeah, he's a great. And he wasn't like he wasn't remotely ashamed of his body. You know, that whether that's, you know, obviously not necessarily the truth, but that's what he projected. And to me, it was like if anything, they didn't use the word empowering back then, but to

me, that's how it felt to me, like, you know, the way somebody like Bridget Everett, where the person is, you know, completely unself conscious about their body, at least it played that way to me. But, you know, I would say this, I would say if you saw that in Chris, if you felt that that was happening to Chris, then maybe you should have talked to Chris about it. And made sure it was cool with Chris instead of just saying, tut, tut.

This is a no good thing. I just saw a young cast member. Yeah, I did not, look, there's different levels. This was young Chris. I saw a guy cast member. Yeah, I did not. I did not. Look, there's different levels. This was young Chris. I saw a guy very athletic. I think anyone next to Patrick's Wazey would look kind of chubby.

And so Chris was moving really like a chubby guy, not like a next level. He was not even that big back then. No, and I saw a guy killing with physical comedy. Like, but if he was sad about it inside, I was clueless to it. I was clueless too, if he was. But I mean, he, when I saw him at Second City that summer, he was another person. I had the privilege of seeing audition back then.

And he, what struck me about him at Second City was how graceful he was. Like he was the opposite of athlete who got, who gains a weight. He's an athlete. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And he was incredibly graceful. And that's what separated him besides, you know, his incredible characterizations. Like, but, you know, so to me, that's the sketch was the only thing it was exploiting was his incredible was what made him special. I would go by David's plan. That's what it says.

Only because David was probably the closest to Chris. I don't remember any promise. I don't think David was the closest back then. Maybe not back then, but after they did their movies and stuff, well, right up there. That's different. By then Chris started to get like, like, you know, in the motivational speaker sketch, I remember adding, I had one contribution to that sketch because Bob was no longer there, oddly enough. Yeah. Bob wrote the entire sketch and spayed, you know, this,

I added just that little part at the end where he's like, Matt's going to shade you. You're here, Matt's here. You're, you know, that thing. Yeah. I mean, you're a Matt's here. That's great. And he knocks over the coffee table. Yeah. And that was like, I just felt it needed like a physical topor at the end. Yeah. A good one. Put it in and it worked. And then I feel though that it did lead to like the slippery slope of finally knocking things. Oh, he's going through walls, the ceiling. Yeah. Yeah. It started, it started something that I did not intend to happen. Yeah. Well, they're kind of waiting for it after that every sketch. They're like, what's he going to hit? What's he going to fall through? Well, certainly with the mat Foley ones. Yeah. But it started happening in other sketches too.

Haha. He just walks in and falls down and falls down. That's all he got. Farls. I would call it. And then we started getting cynical about like Chris, you know, we would just come up with different names. But that Nancy Kerrigan sketch, she was a great ice skater too. Oh, there you go. Yeah, you can ice skate as well. Yeah. So that canceled out. Shippingdale. So we're even I just, you know, when people say it's just very glib to like you know that sketch set them off that's it's just so I just find that irresponsible to well I never heard him complain about it in the years to come so I I think he was just like if you're a young cast member and that and you get a sketch that's a 10 out of 10. And he took it and it blew him up.

I don't think he ever looked back and said, but I felt like, no, so many other things got. Did he ever take his shirt off again on the show? How many he fell around and stuff and walk through walls, but I don't remember that. I'm not sure he did. It didn't become a thing. Let's get Chris's shirt off. So that's good to.

I mean, there was a lot of restraint until like the later, I think it was, wasn't until it was like third or fourth year, it was like people were running out of what to do with them. And it became like a shorthand kind of cheap move to have Farley break something, you know. But he was like, oh my God, Spade, do you remember his acting in that Tom Schiller? Oh, the coffee one? Yeah, just the way his face changes when he, when he hears that they've switched folders. That's great. That was a great idea. How many takes does he get to trash the whole set? I know. That was all Tom Schiller. The Schiller vision of the Fuller's Quersher was a real hit, but it's kind of at a gem that not everyone saw. I put it in the best of because of that. Yeah, great one.

So that people would see it, because it was one of his greatest acting jobs ever. Yeah, they could look it up. yeah they can look at them all right let's write what anything else for this guy Dana let's see um... yeah it's for this guy you're so security number just for this is just uh... house-cabase so it's very number for

stay on and do the paperwork we're gonna jump off but um... um... now that's it you did they recovered literally everything you've ever done well we did a lot of SNL but obviously Robert and I did the Dana Carve show and oh my god and big as leaky do we didn't talk about the Dana Carve show that's all right it's a really we're Sarah life focused but that was uh you'll do a whole podcast about that some right we have a hotel

Transvania podcast after this if if you wanna stay on here. That's what I'm waiting for. You wanna stay on you. We were so happy. Just a hotel Transylvania two podcasts. He did a bunch. There's a lot of cargo characters on Conan, which I loved.

You know, the Arnold, you. Just the lips in the arms. That's what we talk about. He's that. Oh my God. We didn't talk about the Hans and Franz movie. That was the Hans and Franz. This is the part of the show where we just talk about how much Exactly. Oh my God, we didn't talk about the Hans and Franz movie. That was a Hans and Franz. This is a part of the show where we just talk about

how much better the show could have been. Well, we're gonna get... Hans and Franz movie. Oh, we're gonna have you back. We saw, I wrote all your stuff out today and I knew there was no way this was gonna fit into an hour. And so... I know.

I just thought it's okay. More than anything I wish I had talked about that, which one? Hans and Franz movie because because it's so funny. And what is a historical movie? Dana has talked about it on here because it was the whole way it got put together and then it didn't work out. But there was so many. Hans and Franz, the girly man dilemma, but it was not it was not homophobic. It was just a girly man are not are just men with a big muscles like them. You know, do you remember

the part? Okay. Well, this is going to we can't. I was going to talk about the cisco and hebert part was one of my favorite. Yeah. That was a whole story of 12 seconds. Go ahead. Hans and Franz were doing their movie and they're running around somewhere and they go into a room and Cisco and I heard, are watching the movie. I mean, they're not, they're just doing the movie. They're in the movie. And they're doing a cross country trip to Los Angeles because they want to be in the movies and be with Arnold.

Yep. And then they're writing a bicycle across country. And then at one point, they happen upon a big, a big edifice and they just walk in and, uh, Cisco and Ebert, the most famous critics at the time, yeah, Cisco and Roger Ebert are sitting in the theater and it's just like, how's the movie? You're like, it's pretty good so far. They're watching the movie. Lots of action and collapse. Like very in very in this in this dark room watching the exact movie that's taking place. So on the screen is them us talking to them.

Yeah, it's you talking to them. They're like in their movie seats and then on the screen is us talking to them watching the movie. Right. But it's like like four seconds behind. Four seconds behind. Got it. Right. But it's like like four seconds behind. Like I got it. Yeah, that kind of. Yeah. And then eventually they get kidnapped because they're girly men. Right. Like you go to check in on them later and they're gone. Because the evil villain has kidnapped. He's like, remember, Sonny disappears and right. I can't remember who who famous girl

man of the bad the bad guy had a big button that said hurt the weather and then we cut the stone. We're doing look out his window go. It a weather seems hood somehow, you know, it was it was going to be Dolph one grand. And he had like this kind of like final solution villain kind of thing where I am going to eliminate all the man and Then he turned to the camera and say and I'm going to hurt the environment And the button that said hurt the environment. That's right. Yeah, because we were obsessed my I desperately wanted to do like Mike Myers Was my hero later,

because he, with Dr. Evil, created a character that, remember all these 80s comedies, the villain, you always had to like take it seriously, for like, rather than a fun or whether it was Max Fonseido or in Strange Brewer, like, there, you always had to have these obligatory villains. And so we were trying to make fun of that and have the villain be as funny as the mic and then Mike ended up doing.

Perfect. Good for Mike. Good for Mike. All right. I got my show. This has been Robert Smigel. What does that vibe would say? He's the greatest sketch writer of his generation. He's in the discussion. I put him at the top, but everyone can have their opinion.

Jack Andy was the guy that I... Different lane though. I put him in a different lane, but yeah. It's a different lane, but here's what I'll say about Jack, that was why all the writers. I would say if he pulled at least the writers of that era, they would have gone with Jack. And it's because someone like me wrote a lot of, I'm very proud of a lot of things I wrote, but I feel like, you know, there are ideas that only I could have thought of, but there are other ones that I think other people could have, and where Jack, like nobody else could

have thought of almost any of the sketches Jack can't do. Any of you through. Any three, three, be like, oh my God, this is Jack Candy within three lines. You're like, everyone looks great. Yeah, exactly. He's over there smiling.

People act like he was just the act, seven guy, like the five to 11. That's a huge. Toot is the biggest character on the show for a couple. Yeah, yeah. Literally, the biggest character on the show for a couple. Yeah, yeah. Literally, the biggest character on the show was a cat pup. Yeah. Yeah.

So, Tutsus, look out. And we don't have that. Tutsus and caveman lawyer. Yeah. We'd always, they would get no laps practically, but everybody from Lauren on down was in awe of that brilliant sketch. And so it was always it always made the show. It was never at the end of the show because we were all collectively just so proud to put it on. I, it's almost like

I'm a chef simple cave man. I think I think 60 million impugnative damages feels about right. So we all love jazz. Okay. Thanks Robert. Thanks Robert. Thanks guys. I loved it. All right. Thanks Robert. Thanks guys. Love it. All right, talk to you soon buddy. Love you. Bye bye. Hey what's up flies? What's up please?

What's up people that listen? We want to hear from you and your dumb questions. Questions ask us anything. Anything you want. You can email us at flyinthewallatcadens13.com. All right guys, that's flattering, it's time for Q&A. And we answer a question at the end of every show. We've got about, we get a lot of emails I have to say,

but one of the most requested, probably 50 about, we've mentioned this sketch called Massive Head in Hair. Massive Head in Hair. So the question was, no, the sketch, the questions aren't about, what's that? I gave blood. Sorry, great guy syndrome. Really? Oh good. I'm glad that the COVID was at least on the downslope when you gave away your precious fluids. I was just on a flight and there's no shortage of

coughing and weezing. And this lady, and then I go, I don't want to cover it. She goes, no, I just have the flu. I go, oh, okay, good. So, all right, a sketch with Dana called Massive Headroom Harry and a dog was attacking the makeup on Dana's head. Can you tell us about that or animal stories from S&L? Sorry, you get one question. Thank you, love the show. Okay, that's for David Himes.

Massive, massive, headroom Harry. So they put a prosthesis on my head. So it looked like I had a massive head wound. And I was clueless and innocent character. I walk into this party. Were you with the party? I remember you party. Did you have a line?

I think it was a jackhandy sketch. I thought it was a smiley. Really? Did it handy go that mean? I don't know. Wow, we're gonna find out. This is another Google it while we're answering because we're both probably lying.

So the point is just because we tend to ramble, but Massive Head when Harry goes around, he scares everybody, his head goes in a punch bowl. It's like pretty grotesque, and then he lies down and goes, I'm gonna go take a nap, this is me. So I go in the couch, so we have a dog. It's a really, is there a laboratory, a laboratory? Anyway, so during the practice show,

the dog is supposed to start biting and trying to eat my head. And so it did, and it was at a certain level of energy and whatever. For the air show. And killing, though, dress kills. Still killed. But on the air show, they put so much more. I think it was like, almost like Gerber's,

baby food, meat flavor. They put like 10 times more on the prosthetic. 52 synosis. So the Labador, the Labadoodle goes shit house. And it chills. Just grabbing and not hurting me, but just eating and wants to take the whole thing off. Massive headroom's hand. I'm real.

It starts to stretch out. Now, I have a thought in my head like, okay, I don't want it to take the thing off only because the sketch is killing and I don't want it to be killing, oh because it went off. So I put my hand on my temple, I'm holding the thing on and it's taking all the strength I can and funny with the sound off. So I'm not speaking, everyone's looking, the dog is doing that and it goes on for like a minute. Yeah, Lord Michael's apparently was looking at a monitor and crime was laughter. So funny. So it went, went, went, went. And there's, it's hard to top a dog trying to eat a man's head on live television.

That's the, for all you comedy writers out there, that's what I got. What's your point of view, David? Well, I think I was in the sketch or I was just standing on the side watching it and did great address rehearsal. It was funny. A guy with massive head wound here, he comes into party for no explanation as a head wound. Yeah, and that little song is that. He's massive, massive head wound, and then the dog does a great address.

Dog was crazier. The dog trainer is freaking out on air. The dog's really freaking out. Dayd is trying to hold it, and I think he said, I think he smells my dog. Yeah, and you must smell my dog. Yeah, no, it's a huge large with that character. But I remember you had to stand in for me. I had to go somewhere during rehearsal. Didn't you have to put the prosthetic on? Yeah, just for 30 minutes,

you put this apple on your head. It took 11 hours to get it up you. I made that part up. No, I think you, David. Thank you. That's a great question. Yes. Flying the Wall has been a presentation of Cadence 13. Please listen, then rate, review, and follow all episodes.

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