Follow Him: A Come, Follow Me Podcast - Doctrine & Covenants 63 : Dr. Lynne Hilton Wilson Part I
Episode Date: June 5, 2021The Lord judges not by appearance, but by potential. This is true for Missouri and Zion as well. Dr. Lynne Wilson teaches how our observance of the Sabbath is important for not only building Zion but ...for our preparations for the Second Coming. The Saints (and us) in Kirtland and Missouri are taught by the Lord how to prepare for the Temple, Zion, and the Second Coming.Show notes: https://followhim.co/episodesYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/FollowHimOfficialChannelInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/followhimpodcastFacebook: https://www.facebook.com/followhimpodcast
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John, who's with us today?
We have Dr. Lynn Hilton Wilson with us.
And I read this bio and I just think, wow, she's a co-founder of Book of Mormon Central,
which if you have not seen that site, you have got to go there.
Yes.
But set aside a few hours because the videos they've got, the scholarship there,
I steer my students to this all the time. I show videos in class. Anyway, so if you have
an article from Central and now isn't there a doctor and a covenant central? And the church
has to do a pearl great price, although we're completely independent from the church, we were happy
to prepare one. to the heaven.
Dr. Wilson earned her PhD in theology and American religious history from Marquette University.
Her doctoral dissertation compared Joseph Smith's understanding of the spirit with his
contemporaries.
Her master's degree focused on new testament studies, and it just keeps going.
An accomplished cellist,
Lynn played with the BYU Philharmonic
and Chamber Orchestra.
She returned to BYU and taught religion
as an adjunct professor.
She served in the church educational system
for the past 33 years with assignments in France, Belgium,
Wisconsin.
Have you heard those three grouped together before?
And most recently, California.
It all has to do with where the best cheeses are.
Wisconsin has excellent cheese.
And so going from Paris to Wisconsin was very natural.
This makes total sense now.
She's a popular presenter at BIO Education Week,
Society of Biblical Literature,
Mormon History Association, Fair,
Society for Mormon Philosophy and Theology,
B.O.U. Sparrow Symposium,
Silicon Valley, Educational Conference,
and Stanford, Friday forums.
And I don't think this is in here,
but you teach institute at Stanford, right?
Yeah, it's for the Stanford Awards, yes.
Yeah.
Ooh, those are smart people. Her publications include a
Christ emancipation of New Testament women, Nativity narratives, learning the language of the
Lord, a guidebook to personal revelation, and she's got articles in BYU studies, the interpreter,
religious educator, and BYU Religious Studies center. She and her husband, Dow, our Wilson, live in Palo Alto, California. They have seven children all with red hair, five
grandchildren with blonde, ginger and brown. Did we did we hit the important stuff?
Except for the fact that there's been two more born. That's all I wonder. I should have
asked you on Easter morning. Oh, beautiful. So so seven grandchildren. Yeah.
John, I've heard that grandchildren are the best part of life. I
have to experience it in so view. But Lynn, is that true? Are
grandchildren the best part of life? Because that's what I've
heard. Second, only to scripture study. Okay. Wow. Okay. And
Lynn combines the two, right? Thank you. Welcome to our
program today.
Today we get to study the scriptures with Dr. Ererson.
That's right. This is going to be fantastic. Let's jump right into the lesson.
This is an interesting week, Lynn, because we only have one section of the
doctrine and covenants, which sometimes in our lessons we're flipping through
eight or nine sections or at least seven sections and this one, we're just going to kind of set it up and then go through it and allow you
to allow you to teach.
So let me just give a little bit of background then you can fill in.
So it's August 1831.
It says that they just returned to Kirtland from Missouri.
So why don't we back up a little bit and you tell us,
give us the background you think we need to have
in order to approach this section.
You know, I'm fascinated with American religious histories
understanding and the second grade awakening
of the millennialism.
It was such a happy, exciting time.
All these new states have a Zion'sville
or Eden, Jerusalem, the new Jerusalem,
so many places across as the Appalachian Mountains
opened for population after 1791.
You just start spring up this really enthusiastic interest
in the millennium.
And it did not shy away from those who are also joining the
restoration under Joseph's prophetic leadership. And the saints were so eager to learn every
morsel they could about building a Zion society. And you know, Joseph moves to Kirtland in
February, that first week in February, he arrives. And the first thing that happens is he gets the law
of consecration.
And within a few months, he's told,
you'll, the land of Zion is going to be down in Missouri.
And they have that church conference there
so that he and Edward Partridge and several other,
the leaders go down to meet with a small branch.
And they are as devastated when they arrive,
I think, as the British Saints
were when they arrived in Salt Lake.
I just think it had nothing to do
with their Yankee background.
You know, they no longer have their strong puritan,
Calvinistic roots, where going to church was important, where education was
important. Instead, it's a very different mentality. Land was so important in the South.
They had very different religious feelings in the South. The blue laws in Connecticut
said you have to go to church every two weeks in the South. It's only, you only have to go
once every two months. It had a whole different view of religion. And the reason why Jackson County was so horrific, I feel like,
you know, it's not only the wild, wild west of the west, but right when Mexico was breaking off,
and we were getting that change between the Missouri compromise, you know, just 10 years before Joseph arrives, they begin a company called the Santa Fe Trade
Company. And it was, it was, it reminded me of the California gold rush. You know, everybody
comes to get rich. So the people that came specifically to independence were working with
this Santa Fe marketing and they're going down into the Mexican Spanish territories to
get their coins because we had such a deficiency
of metal money in the United States
that they would bring them back.
And you are making 150% on your money every month.
You know, they were just becoming millionaires
in a day and age when you earned $1.25 a day.
You know, I mean, this was just an amazing
get rich, quick location. And as a place
where of landing between, you know, it's the border of the United States and a couple of years
before, the president said, would like all the Native Americans just right over the border.
And so you're getting this horrendous deportation of allugies of our Native Americans. And you have all this
money pouring in and also like a port town, you have a lot of adultery going on because
the men have been out on these getwitch quick schemes and then they come home and the
first place they have to check in is in independence again. And so you have a lot of problems with prostitution and a lot of supplies.
So it is it is not just a southern state where there's a problem with feelings on Africans
and slavery and feelings on Native Americans. It it is a a really materialistic place and Joseph
arrives there and he is so
disheartened and that's when he gives that beautiful prophecy
that we studied about last week and come follow me in that beautiful prayer.
I mean to the Lord when is the desert going to when is it going to when are we
going to see the blossoming of the roads? You know when is Zion going to be able to
be built up? But he knew the voice of the Lord and Joseph learned to trust the voice of Lord way before
July of 1831. So even though he and Emma have just made that huge move to
Courland, he picks up his bags and because they're using the mail route, they're not using,
you know, the missionaries when they went down there to preach to the Native Americans.
They used the mail route and it wasn't just a 900 route. So if you go in Google Maps, it's 800 miles.
But they were going 900 miles, but when the missionaries did it, it was 1500.
So because they're going the long way.
And also they're preaching and they make their little stops off of course in Kirtland and other places. But it is really a disheartening experience. And I think that's why
there was so much tension at this time. So Joseph arrives and he feels the spirit say,
nope, this is the right place. Even though don't judge me by what I look like, you know, even though you're looking at a house of disrepute, this is the right place, you know, and it's one reason why we didn't
get along with our neighbors, you know, but we could have improved. There were false
sample sites, but that small branch, Joseph dedicates the land for the design on July
20th, 1830. And then we have this sweetness of Paulie Knight passing away
there as the first one buried at age 55.
And then he leaves Sydney with the task of dedicating the land,
dedicating the temple spot.
And Joseph goes back home.
But there was so much contention amongst the brethren
that were going back with him.
And I feel like a lot of the messages in section 63 relate specifically to that journey back and forth.
You remember that Edward Partridge is just writes that beautiful letter to his wife where he says, pray for me that I can be humble and and be able to accept this assignment. I do not want to be here. I do not want to be away from you.
I don't want to take this calling,
but God has called me.
I've got to do it.
We've promised ourselves that we're going to serve the Lord
with all of our might.
And unfortunately, Brother Booth did not have that much humility.
And in his journal, he writes,
I cannot believe that Joseph is a prophet,
is he, if he is saying that we're two bills Zion here. And and he drives enough anxiety amongst the other people that are
traveling with Joseph that there's a lot of contention. And I don't know if you remember
the story about when they're on the river and all of her choose everybody out saying stop
yelling at Joseph. And if we're gonna have so much contention, we're gonna have an accident
and Sydney and Joseph get everybody off the water because they say you're a limp, you don't
even know how to canoe.
I mean, it reminded me sometimes of family reunions.
You know, it was really-
Things go well until think everybody gets tired and hungry.
Of course, they're tired and hungry.
And I love the report when we read in some of the people that traveled with them of their bloodied and and blistered feet. And then then one of them says, I just love this.
And Joseph, of course, had as many as everyone else. And yet he bore it because he knew he was on the Lord and the others just it's hard when you feel pain to not become a pain. And it's fascinating
to me as I look at how the members of my community, my faith community in the San Francisco Bay Area
approach challenges. And if we are not make, we will fall into that same pattern. And as I look at section 63, so Joseph gets back finally
to see Emma and rejoice in that reunion with their sweet little Joanna. They are living at that
point down up in Kirtland, I mean, and it is August and the twins were born in May. So the twins are just a few months old
and the Murdock twins.
Yeah, the Murdock twins.
And he gets to come home and see these little toddlers.
And so happy with that reunion.
And yet, when he gets there,
everyone wants to know more about Zion.
And there's other people who are saying,
Joseph is not a prophet of God
if he's calling this Zion. And so you've got the whole spectrum of feelings going on.
The people ask Joseph the question and then they, he receives the answer. And I just feel like
the more questions we ask, the more revelation we'll receive. And that's what happened here with section 63.
I love the how often Hank isn't this true, that we have seen people's expectations be incorrect. And here's another case where, oh, we thought it was this. And now the Lord
saying it's this. And that seems to be a pattern not just here but all the time.
Hank and I talked with somebody about, you know, on the road to Emeas. Well, we had hoped that
this would be, yeah. Yeah. Thank you for that. I didn't know other towns were, they were naming
their towns as Zion villains. That Indiana. Well, think of the Milerites. You know, they're gathering
Indiana. Well, think of the Milerites. You know, they're gathering this whole community that became later on, the seventh day Adventist, is expecting Christ's return in 1844. And they gather thousands
of people together for this experience that they think is coming. And the Milerites are just one
of the many faiths who were combing through the Old Testament and the book of Revelation to real to pinpoint
The second coming of our Savior. No, I've taught the book of Revelation numerous times in Torah right at the end
Those last four chapters to Zion, you know, here comes the Lord and so that's available to everyone in the in the Bible
I think it was John. I think it was a
Dr. Harper who said,
if you base your faith, this is like Ezra booth here,
if you base your faith on false assumptions,
it will be easily overturned.
And that seems to be what happened with Ezra booth.
He has some assumptions about what prophets
should be able to do and shouldn't do, right?
And those assumptions aren't met and he's like,
Yeah, that's way in section 63.
The Lord says, faith has to proceed to miracle here, guys.
You got your cart before the horse here, you know, yeah, you get it turned this around
because the after booze, of course, was converted with a miracle of Elsa Johnson's arm being
healed her rheumatism, her rheumatic arm, or whether they called it at that time.
I was going to ask about the Elsa Johnson story.
Yeah, so John and Elsa live 30 miles south of
the curland.
And beautiful, beautiful farm.
And so when Alexander Campbell's group comes through with the disciples of Christ,
they hear about it and are interested.
And then of course when the four missionaries come,
I thought 30 miles was a long way in that age,
but because they were religious seekers,
they became interested in the message
of the restoration as well.
And then when Joseph moved there,
they haven't joined the church.
They're just hearing and listening
and pondering more like, you know,
Brigham's two years is a little different here,
but the Johnsons actually come up to meet the prophet to Kirtland.
And they're in a room. And as far as I'm recalling, and I haven't reviewed this recently, but Joseph just notices the need across the room.
And I believe they're the Whitney's or something like that, you know, they're, they're the members home.
something like that, you know, they're they're they're a member's home. And Joseph stands up and walks over to Elsa. He's aware of a need. And he reaches out and heals her.
And it just reminded me so much of the Savior's healings. He sees a need. Faith is extended. And as her booth was in the room at that time, as were others. And he saw it and said, this must be a man of God.
And unfortunately, I don't know if his testimony
was based on the restoration and the Book of Mormon, but the foundation was not quite right,
so he didn't quite remain,
but he did feel the light of Christ
and feel the witness of the Spirit
and be converted and the Johnson's did of course,
and then the Johnson's will invite Joseph.
In section 63, the Lord says,
you're gonna have to move off the land
where you're living, Joseph and Emma,
and you're gonna have to find,
and just listen to the Spirit and you'll be directed, and the spirit tells them, you're going to go down
and live with the Johnson's in their beautiful farm, and they also make room for Sydney. So Joseph
moves into the house with the Johnson's, and Sydney moves outside in another of their log cabins on
the property. And two, two, two of their boys become members of the original 12, right?
That's right.
And Lyman, Luke and Lyman Johnson,
both become members of the original 12.
And that home, I've been to that home.
I think you all have, it is something else.
It's beautiful.
Even for 1830, you're going, wow, this is really nice.
I wanted to show, for those on video,
this is in the Come Follow Me manual.
This is the beautiful painting of Joseph
healing Elsa Johnson's arm.
So if you have your manual, you can see that.
But yeah, you can stand in that place.
I say it was right in here somewhere.
And that's kind of sets up, Hank, too, doesn't that set up
the fact that they were Joseph is sitting were there.
That's set up section 76, which is coming.
Right. There's going to be a lot
of revelations. In the Johnson farm, yes. Section 63, what are some of the verses that we could go
through and point out what's in this revelation? And what's the question about Zion? What's happening?
Yeah, that's exactly what they were asking. Tell us, tell us what's
happening. You know, what's what happened? You've been gone to and a half months, Joseph. We've
missed you. Tell us more. And of course, this group of saints in Kirtland were very interested in
the gifts of the spirit. And he speaks about those. I don't know if you guys have talked about the
the challenges that the early Kirtland Saints had with the gifts of the spirit. But when the
missionaries left them, I believe it was John Whitmer who was told
to come back and take care of the Kirtland Saints when the
four missionaries left before Joseph arrived a few months
later. I think Joseph was gone. There was just a four month
hiatus and John Whitmer was there for two of those months. And
then Joseph came. But when Joseph arrived, they were experimenting with gifts of the spirit that were completely counterfeits. They were
barking and jerking and acting like baboons, some of the records in the journals say, and so Joseph
addresses some of these issues that they had challenges with. And remember, as soon as Joseph
gets to Kirlend, he gives section 46 on the gifts of spirit. And he says, five times in that section, you only have the gifts of the spirit to bless other people,
not to and grandize your own self. You're given them if you want to build the kingdom.
If you're my servant and you're willing to bless others. So I feel like section 63 addresses
some of the issues there. He does the miracle.
You have to have faith first.
He addresses the gifts of the spirit.
He addresses Zion.
He addresses the second coming.
In fact, I did a little counting.
And 40% of the verses address some sort of eschatology,
some sort of either the second coming or millennialism.
And one of my favorite things is that there is a parable in this. And in the
Dectrine Covenants, we actually have 12 parables. Some of them are new, some of them are old,
but seven of the 12 refer to the 10 versions. And this is one of them. So it's been in verse 35, section 33, section 45. And so seven times through, we get references to this.
And I just say to myself, what more does the Lord want us to learn?
Obviously, if he's mentioned it in seven different sections,
he really wants the restoration, the saints,
to understand that parable and to apply it in our lives.
This to me is a section that says, I want you to get ready
for Zion to be built, but you have to do it my way. And it'll come when it comes. But you already
mentioned teaching the book of Revelation, and I just have to jump ahead to chapter 19 in Revelation,
where the Savior says, we can cut the calamity short as soon as the bride
is ready for the bridegroom.
And in section 65, Christ is introduced as the bridegroom
as he is in the New Testament in the book of Revelation.
But I feel like Joseph is laying out the platform
of how we as members of the restoration
of this great and marvelous work that has been brought forth
starting with the translation of the Book of Mormon, how we can build a Zion society and then
Christ can come. But until we're ready to live the law of consecration, which was restored of
course in section 42, as soon as Joseph arrives in Kirtland, he receives the law. And all of these sections in this next year
address how to become a Zion society.
Actually, clear up through section 105, isn't it?
When the Zion's camp that you mentioned earlier
talks about how to become a Zion society.
And I think section 63 is a beautiful,
gives lots of ideas on how to do that.
In fact, I also noticed that five of the 10 commandments
are listed in this section,
because if we're going to live a zone society,
we not only have to keep following the living profit,
but we also need to obey the counsel
of our past profits as well.
Wonderful.
I want to make sure I wrote that down right.
Seven of the 11 parables in the darkening of the Covenant.
12 parables.
There's 12, okay.
Seven of the 12 refer to the parable
of the Wise and Foolish Virgin.
Yeah, I just did a little search on LDS.
You know, I use the app from Book of Mormon Central
and I use the app from our church's website
and I just did a little looking on the Virgin's
and I just said, wow, we've really talked about this a lot.
And there, those Matthew 25 parables are all preparation parables, right?
Yeah, they're all preparations for the second coming.
Yeah, get ready parables.
And I have to just add that I feel like this has become more and more a topic
in general conferences and in other messages from the brethren.
I'm thinking of Larry White Wilsonen's talk on Return of the Kings
and Elder Christopherson's on the Lord needs of people prepared
and there's just been a lot, even our prophet in this last conference,
addressed our need to prepare for the second coming.
And this section, I think, does a great job.
The only thing that they don't talk about is the Sabbath,
which is a major sign of our preparation for the second coming. And this section I think does a great job. The only thing that they don't talk about is the Sabbath, which is a major sign of our preparation for the second coming. Interesting. I feel like we're
all set. We've got the feeling of the section, you know, it helps so much to know what's happening,
what's the feeling like? Joseph is home. He's relieved to be home to see his little brand new adopted
twins. But there's a quite a bit of tension.
I think as a booth is creating some,
it'd just be difficulty for him.
And others too.
Yeah, he had others.
And I just had my scriptures open to the wrong page.
It was section 59 where the Lord said,
we've really got to start leaving the Sabbath.
So he doesn't need to repeat it a few weeks later.
And that was just given in Missouri
and now he's up in Kirtland,
but it's just a few, you know,
it's just that journey length of time.
So the Lord has just said it.
So perhaps that's why that is not repeated again
as part of the preparation for the second coming
because I feel like certainly that has been a message
that has been loud and clear
that we need to improve on in our generation.
But section 63 is fascinating the way the Lord, so he gives this great introduction, but he starts out, this is verse five, you know, the Lord, my word is going to be obeyed.
I'm going to speak and I am going to be obeyed. And then he says, but in verse six, it's going to be
in a day of wrath. You better watch out, you know, and he just immediately goes in to the signs that
are coming. And it's fascinating because in the New Testament, when we refer to signs, it's often
translated as miracles.
John in John's Gospel, there are seven miracles
and seven sermons, and they're often called seven signs
in different translations of the New Testament.
And so when the Lord refers to, in verse seven
and in verse nine, I love verse nine,
faith comeeth not by signs, but signs follow those that believe.
And I can testify that if you, if I look at my, every day of my life within the lens of, have I seen God in my life today. I see him every hour.
This is such a sweet reality
that if we extend our faith,
we will see signs that the Lord is in our camp.
And you are referring to a sequence that I love here.
It's not signs precede those,
it signs follow those that believe.
And I don't know, can you share with our audience some of the health challenges?
And now I will tell you one sweet miracle. When I first started going blind,
I asked for a blessing. And the first things out of that wonderful
Melchizedek priesthood holder's mouth was rejoice.
You will see the hand of the Lord in your life.
And then I had four more episodes
and my optic nerves kept deteriorating.
And I kept telling myself every hour
if I needed to rejoice.
You will see the hand of the Lord in your life.
And now as I bump around into things and I have blind, I have to tell you that I am so grateful for the perspective that it has given me that I do not see the whole picture. I believe that
it is so applicable to church history. Ezra Booth did not see the whole picture. I believe that it is so applicable to church history.
Ezra Booth did not see the whole picture. Elsa Johnson didn't see the whole picture.
Joseph didn't see the whole picture.
We are partially veiled, but our savior sees the whole picture.
And that simple little natural blessing of, you know what? I don't see
the whole picture. I got to be careful. I, you know, I might be missing something here. That little
blessing has been so sweet. And with my two years on chemo every day, I prayed, this medicine is
taking out the incorrect growth in my body. Can you please, Lord, cleanse my soul?
Can you help me cleanse those things
that have grown inappropriately and in the wrong direction?
I just feel like hardships are such a blessing.
The reason why the Lord gave us weaknesses
is because those things take us to our knees.
And it's when we are on our knees that we draw closer to our Savior. I've underlined the word signs in seven, in eight, in nine,
in ten, in eleven, in twelve. And so it sounds like this was a big part, this all because of
Ezra Booth or this is all saying, this is not what you should be looking for.
You know, I think it's also because of the misunderstanding of what the gifts of the
spirit were.
But it's during the second grade awakening, you know, everyone's going to revivals and
they're all jumping around and they're all thinking that it's the swooning that's the
spirit instead of a still small voice.
You know, they're looking for the earthquake if we were going back to Elijah.
And but it is in that little section from verses seven to 12,
is that portion that he refers to the signs.
And then right after that, but I still feel it's a great deal
because these saints are so new,
they're not even, they haven't even baptized a year yet.
This is the first, the missionaries didn't arrive,
those missionaries to the Lamanites don't even arrive until November.
And here it is the following August.
And it's August 30th, by the way, when he gets this according to the Joseph Smith papers.
August 30th when he receives this one.
So my heart just says, no, he's doing post baptism teaching lessons right here.
You know, this is really the basics.
But later on he talks about Joseph having
the gift of discernment. And George A Smith, Joseph's cousin, you know, his little cousin who followed
him around and just looked up to him like a hero. George A said, you know, if this gifts in the
spirit were one of Joseph's favorite topics, the gift of discernment was his favorite gift.
And he said it was the thing he spoke most on
more than anything else.
Now that's from his perspective as a young boy.
I think if we asked Joseph, he'd say, actually, no.
But when I have read all of Joseph's serens
in Navu that are collected by E. Hatton Cook
and also available on Joseph with papers,
I would say, yes, the workings of the spirit are one of Joseph's absolute
key doctrines that he taught the most. And so when Joseph is told here, you will need to
seek the gift of discernment. Joseph, obviously, in 1831, took that to heart. And by the time
George A says it in Navu, 10 years later, George A says, Oh no, that was his favorite
topic.
And it may have come from here or may have come from the years of working with Roni, trying
to get that straight on how to get the plates home.
Yeah.
Then you made me think of something.
There's a great book called Remembering Joseph by Mark McConkey.
And I've always wondered why anyone would want to learn about, if you
want to really learn about Joseph Smith, here go to his friends. I mean, who knows you best?
Your friends or your enemies who knows you best? Go to those who know him best, his family
and his friends. And that book, Remembering Joseph, that's always the first book I recommend,
if someone says, Hey, can I, I want to read a book on Joseph Smith. I'll say, Oh,
give Remembering Joseph. You can hear it in their own words, talking
about like you said with George A. What was it like to just be with him every day? And
they describe it beautifully. John, anything else on signs? I love what you said there.
I just think that there's, there's something that I thought was fascinating about this. We look at Jesus' saying, it is a wicked and an adulterous generation that seeketh after a sign.
And you talked about all these houses of ill-reputed around there.
And right after this signs thing, he goes to verse 14.
There were among you adulterers and adulteresses.
And I was watching one of the roundtable discussions
the BYU professors used to have,
and one of them said,
this is a really fast way to lose the spirit.
You know?
You know?
Well, and I also wondered as I was reading
and studying this section.
Do you remember in the Old Testament?
And in the New Testament, the Savior refers to,
I'm just gonna quote Isaiah,
where is the Bill of Thy Divorcement?
Yeah.
They refer to this marriage relationship
as adultery between God and his people.
He's not even heard, right?
Yeah, his people.
And Zion is experiencing adultery
when they are experiencing idolatry.
And so I wondered in this situation,
I know he tells some people in their sections,
okay, I know you've been struggling with adultery.
And everyone now knows it, thank you, Joseph.
The Scarlet Letter A is now in Braden here on live chest.
But I wondered in some of
these verses here and he goes on,
I'm starting in verse 13 to
probably anyway, adultery is a topic here for quite a while.
A few verses down and I'm just,
I go through 19, it looks like 13 to 19.
I'm just wondering if some of that is idolatry,
just as it was in both the old and new testaments.
So I don't want to just knock all of us out.
If, oh no, I don't struggle with that.
That's not an issue for me.
Well, don't think you don't need to read this
because we can look at it in the way
the Lord defines adultery in the Bible,
which is often you have broken your covenant with God.
You have, you are no longer honoring and worshiping him as your father or our
Savior as your, as your spiritual father.
You know, you shouldn't work with any weakness that we have.
Beware and repent.
Yes.
Speedily, right?
Yes.
I know at times when he says here, beware.
I know at times when I've made the worst mistakes is when I'm just not being aware, right?
I'm just not paying attention. I'm on autopilot and then all of a sudden.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
What's I thinking there?
Or beware and repent quick. I like that. I like that.
Yeah.
Repent quick.
Um, let's see. Should we turn the page here? Are we ready to?
Yeah.
Scroll down as everyone else.
Yeah. No, keep keep keep with pages.
Right.
I've, I've, I've gonna petition the church that when you scroll on your scriptures, it
makes the little scripture noise, you know.
I love that.
I love that.
Put some page number on the side.
I find myself with my students now at the top of the next column.
Oh wait, I mean, scroll down to verse.
So on the scriptures plus app, the scriptures there are exactly how they are in our book.
Really?
Yeah.
So they have them this way, not the other way.
So the scriptures plus app allows you to maintain that memory of where things lie on the page.
Yeah.
You learned this on follow him, folks.
You know, it's interesting though, because right as we start turning the pages is where we start getting all these verses, as I mentioned,
there were 40% of the verses. I think there's 26 actually verses that discuss eschatological
topics, whether it's the tragedies before the second coming or the millennium or the first resurrection.
But the idea of the Savior's coming, this broad umbrella, he starts right away there in verse 18.
coming, this broad umbrella, he starts right away there in verse 18. Well, actually, it's before that too, but this is the fourth time in verse 17. Those people that are going
to be burned with fire are those who have completely, flag-grantly, disobeyed God.
And then in verse 20, we get the beautiful that if you have faith to do my will, then you will overcome and you will have your
inheritance. And now I think this is a great tie because you have a Lord always speaks on two or three or four or five
levels, you know, you can always interpret scriptures differently at different times in your life because they're just so rich and
gorgeous. I just feel like I'm eating the best ice cream or chocolate I've ever had, you know.
But right here in verse 20, I think this idea of inheritance is speaking not only of
in Zion, you know, we want to send all your extra money down to buy property in Jackson
County, but also your inheritance as he continues on in the next life.
So even though this life is full of thorns and thisiles and briars and pain,
we will be able to overcome and we will be able to have an inheritance.
And he goes on to what we didn't get
on the amount of transfiguration in our letters,
but it was part of this beautiful message
that is given in the doctrine of covenants.
I just feel like the whole Bible comes alive
when we get Joseph's little tidbits like this
in verse 20 on the day of
transfiguration. You know, we didn't get the whole picture then amount of transfiguration.
What's written down is only part of it. They got to see this beautiful vision of the fullness
that was not given yet.
Yeah. And in verse, verse 21, it says, the earth shall be transfigured even according
to the pattern,
which was shown upon mine apostles on the mount. So the footnote below is, you know, Matthew 17,
where this, where this happened. And I thought, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait, what, what? The earth will be
transfigured as well. And that mountain transfiguration was a pattern. I was going, oh, I love
when the new Testament gets woven in here and other scriptures.
It's so much fun. Well, there's a part in Matthew 17 where Peter is overwhelmed.
And he says, you know, it's my favorite understatement of all time. It is good for us to be here.
It's good for us to be here. Okay, this is good.
The other thing, if you just read the four gospels and you read the Mount of Transfiguration,
you might not get the feeling it was that big of a moment for the people that were there.
But then you go to, let me see if I can find it, you go to second Peter, I think it is.
And Peter is bearing his testimony.
This is long after the Savior has been resurrected.
And he can, how many different experiences has Peter had with Jesus? And this is what he says about the Lord.
He says, this is second Peter 116 and through 19. He says, for we have not followed cunningly devised fables. This isn't fiction,
when we made known unto you the power of the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, but were eyewitnesses
of His Majesty, for He received from God the Father, honor and glory, when there came a voice
to Him, the excellent glory. This is my beloved son and whom I am well pleased. This voice, which
came from heaven, we heard when we were with him on the holy mountain.
So of all the things, of all the things Peter says on.
Could have mentioned.
He says it was a amount of transfiguration.
That's what comes to mind.
And section 63 kind of tells us why, right?
I think because it's about the second coming too,
I mean, it's about the future.
And so Peter is looking forward to it.
And of course Joseph and the saints assume
that it's much sooner than we realize now.
But in the Lord's timing, he wanted us to think
it was soon with every generation.
That's part of the wisdom of being a good teacher
is you have to motivate people to act the here and now.
I'll thank you for saying that because I have seen so many I come quickly.
And he does say in one of the verses in the lore in my time, I can't look at you in my own time.
I think it's right here in this little section here when he says in verse 35, it's not yet,
but by and by.
That's another one.
Yeah.
Yeah. He starts talking about Zion in verse 35, it's not yet, but by and by. That's another one. Yeah. Yeah.
He starts talking about Zion in verse 24.
Actually, we've got to go to 23. It's so beautiful.
Him that keepeth my commandments.
I will give the mysteries of the kingdom.
Those to me are temple endowments as well as a revelation, personal revelation on many spheres.
But those he is preparing a people to receive their initiatories in the
Kirtland Temple that January 1836 and beyond, and he is preparing a people to
receive the mysteries of God.
And then you get the women at the well, right after that, the woman at the
well, and the same shall be in him a well of living water, springing up on everlasting life.
You get this great connection. There's a more New Testament coming in there, you know.
I put at the top of my, my first column because I'm using pages, a Zion people, and I put at
the top of the next column, a Zion land,
because then he starts talking about in verse 24, land of Zion, verse 25, land of Zion,
verse 29, land of Zion.
Purchase it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And, you know, that land was for sale, a dollar 25, an acre, but we had such a hard time
getting the property.
It wasn't until December of 1831 that Bishop Partridge was given 63
acres, the opportunity to buy 63 acres. Remember, this is such a new state. They're still
getting out their surveys. The federal government owned it initially and they're still surveying
the properties. It's not until December that Edward Partridge has the opportunity to buy
the land and he gets 63 acres of what they called Seminary Land. It's not until December that Edward Partridge has the opportunity to buy the land and he gets
63 acres of what they call
Seminary land. It's land that
he can be used to build a school
on. So it's a little bit more
expensive. So it was $2
an acre and he paid $130
that December and bought it.
And the Lord is saying,
send your funds. We've got to
earn up to this money because
the Lord knows on August 30th
that this property is going to
come for sale and we we are gonna be able
to buy a whole chunk of it.
And by the time they're kicked out in two years,
they have five different settlements
where the saints are living.
And this first year, they were able to afford
that $130 and they bought that first settlement.
So the Lord's instructions here to prepare this land
are fulfilled in December.
I remember the Book of Mormon
when it went on when it was discounted, which is $1.25 and that's the same price as an acre of
an acre of land. Yeah, just to keep it in context. That's the price of the copy of the book.
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