Free With Ads - Tank Girl, with Comic Book Couples Counseling

Episode Date: June 4, 2024

Emily and Jordan are joined by Brad and Lisa Gullickson of the podcast Comic Book Couples Counseling to talk about the 1995 cult classic Tank Girl, starring Lori Petty and Malcolm McDowell. Give us 5... stars and a review on the Apple Podcast Store! DO IT NOW!Listen to Comic Book Couples Counseling and check out their episode on the 40th Anniversary of the Teenage Mutant Ninja TurtlesPre-order Jordan's new graphic novel Youth Group here bit.ly/youthgroupbookVisit Emily's ETSY store right now and buy some stuff! 

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This This is Free With Ads, the podcast that asks the question, why pay Disney plus $10 a month for 9,000 hours of Marvel movies when you can go on YouTube for free and watch the greatest comic book movie ever made? I'm Jordan Morris. And I'm Emily Fleming. Today's movie is Tank Girl, the 1995 post-apocalyptic action movie based on the Dark Horse comics of the same name that predicts a grim future where water is currency and kangaroos are sexy. Before we talk about this movie, which is, as of this recording,
Starting point is 00:00:58 streaming free with ads, we're going to introduce our two amazing guests, Lisa and Brad Gullickson of the Comic Book Couples Counseling Podcast. Hi. Thank you for being here. Oh, boy. Yay. Yay. Yay, Jordan. Jordan.
Starting point is 00:01:15 And I don't want to immediately become pedantic talking about Tank Girl, but Tank Girl was originally published by Deadline Magazine in the UK. He is going to be that guy the whole time. There's no stopping it. Mansplaining comics. Let's go. I'm so glad that you're going to do that, though, because I don't know anything about the comics.
Starting point is 00:01:34 I'm very happy to hear all about it. I've never read an issue. Neither have I. But now I kind of want to. Well, fuck. You guys are screwing up my whole thing. I don't want to. Well, fuck.
Starting point is 00:01:43 You guys are screwing up my whole thing. Yeah. Before we get into talking about Tank Girl, we have two amazing guests. So we want to do our classic segment, Talk to Guests. Talk to Guests. Sorry, I'm chewing ice. So Brad and Lisa, you do a fantastic comic book based podcast you're also uh you're also fixtures at at conventions at film festivals things like this um i have been trying to convince emily to go to a comic-con for a while i think she'd really thrive there um any any any tips for
Starting point is 00:02:20 people who like love this kind of stuff but like like haven't been to a con? Any favorite ones you can recommend to people? Well, I mean, we have San Diego Comic Con coming up. That's my favorite con. Of course, that is a little bit like the deep end. You can drown in a con like that. So maybe try something like WonderCon. That is kind of like saying, oh, you're looking to get into rock music? Come to see this GWAR concert yes exactly exactly but i feel like sdcc is where you get to choose your own adventure
Starting point is 00:02:52 because you can go the comic book track or you could go to the cinematic track or television and it's in like multiple buildings there's fun stuff to do outside, too. So I feel like it really is just full immersion. You have to learn to love the line. And you're going to spend most of your time in lines. Line for what? Exactly. For another line. But what am I waiting in line for?
Starting point is 00:03:20 Is there a bar? Well, I believe you're an X-Men fan, you know, with X-Men 97. I am, but I ain't waiting in line for that. Sorry. I mean, I don't wait in lines for stuff. What I want to do is look at everybody's cosplay. I'm more interested in seeing what the people look like. Well, they're on the loose.
Starting point is 00:03:39 They're literally everywhere. And that's what I like about it. I ain't got to wait for it. everywhere. And that's what I like about it. I ain't gotta wait for it. And I also want to do cosplay, but I'm very stressed out about what to do. I have
Starting point is 00:03:51 one idea. Tell me if you like it. I want to be sexy Elmer Fudd. Do it. Okay, so here's the plan. Bald cap, of course, but big, bulbous head. Because it's the sexy Elmer Fudd. Yes, yes, yes. The bald cap of course but like big bulbous because it's the sexy elmer fudd i'm following yes yes yes the the bald cap is everything so big bulbous like bald head i'm gonna get the
Starting point is 00:04:11 prosthetic nose um but big titties titties out you know and then the like little hunter's outfit and then the hat but the hat will be real tiny on top of the giant head, you know, and then the outfit will be like slutty. It'll be like a short little skirt version. And I can't have a gun, which sucks. But, you know, I think you can have a gun, but you do have to wait in a line to carry that gun around because I will not be having a gun. I don't have a gun. Here's a pitch. If you need a prop, instead of a sign that says duck season, what if it said dick season? Ooh. And then I just, well, I kind of want to carry around a rabbit by the ears, like it's with blood on it or something.
Starting point is 00:04:55 That sounds great. Maybe it can have a Donald Trump wig on it, and I can just Kathy Griffin that shit, you know? And you don't even need to get a badge for that. Too many things, Emily. Too many things. It's confusing. See, this is why,
Starting point is 00:05:05 but this is why I need your help. Like, I don't know, is this too hardcore? Right. No, no. I haven't seen it. I would love to see it. And I think you could just hang out
Starting point is 00:05:14 in the Gaslamp District and get everyone to take photos of you without spending a dollar. Great. The Gaslet? Like, what is that? Gaslamp District? What is that?
Starting point is 00:05:24 It's just where the restaurants and stuff Yeah, it's like the little neighborhood around Comic Con and I think Correct me if I'm wrong, I think they have one of those Dick's Last Resorts, that restaurant Where everyone's mean to you They do Yeah, that's always a fun post-Comic Con
Starting point is 00:05:39 Yeah, that sounds fun I actually did go to the one in New York Briefly Back in like 2014. And I didn't wait in line for anything. I just went and sat in on panel stuff. There was like, I think there was the Sleepy Hollow Ichabod Crane TV show that existed back of the day. I sat in on that.
Starting point is 00:06:03 It was super fun. And the Gotham panel and stuff. Yeah. New York's great. New York's a great con, uh, about the same size as San Diego. Uh, but I think that's the thing is you just find a place that's open for you. You sit down, you enjoy it. You discover a new fandom. Yeah. I like that. I don't want to wait in line for stuff. I'd probably just get a walk around, look at all the booths and like, you know, do that kind of thing. But I'm very impatient and I just don't wait in lines anymore.
Starting point is 00:06:35 Brad loves the line. And whenever he's selling cons, he always goes line forward. He's an extrovert. He's there to meet people. I put big headphones in and I look at my phone and I just pretend I disassociate and pretend that I'm not in line. Yeah, I just my best way of dissociating is just not being in the line. So I'm not going to do it. Something that I love about San Diego is that like all of the after con socializing takes place at hotel bars.
Starting point is 00:07:06 It's all based around hotel bars. And like, you know, there's a Dick's Last Resort, obviously, where you get to see improv actors be mean to guys dressed like Darth Vader. So that's kind of fun. But but like all of the like and all of the kind of industry schmoozing takes place at hotel bars. They call it bar con. And like, I just I love a fucking down the middle Marriott bar. I just love them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:31 Anyway, I like you like an excuse to hang out there. Like, this is the thing we all do. Let's go to this Marriott bar. Anyway. Yes. And then go to that like pungent swimming pool later. Oh, yeah. They've got it.
Starting point is 00:07:42 I love an indoor like. Corini swimming pool. like well it's california it's california so y'all don't have the indoor pool problem that people in the southeast or the midwest have we've got everything's an indoor pool because they want to make that money year round you got really close to saying california i talked to my family on the phone for three hours Do they ask you how you doing in California? No they don't but we get real country like real quick We talked about like jokes my grandma used to say for like three hours It was crazy
Starting point is 00:08:19 Wow So yeah let's have Emily Southernism's bingo I'll put down a token if you say dag nab it So yeah, let's have Emily Southernism's bingo. I'll put down a token if you say Dagnabbit. Oh, I love a Dagnabbit. Tarnation? We don't say Dagnabbit, we definitely say. I guess Tarnation if you were being sexy Yosemite Sam. Yes, which I have thought about, but it's not as sexy as Elmer Fudd.
Starting point is 00:08:44 There's something about Elmer Fudd being bald and then like the nose because he looks like a penis, doesn't he? Yeah, you're probably right. I guess I haven't thought about who the sexiest Bugs Bunny antagonist is. Well, I think that Elmer Fudd is like a penis with tits if I were to do it. Wow. I think it would be awesome. You make a wonderful case. Thank you. And the gun would were to do it. Wow, okay. I think it would be awesome. You make a wonderful case. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:09:06 And the gun would be a clit. Wow, you're right. I could be everything at once. Elmer Fudd is fucking hot. Yes, if you can nail the laugh. A question for Brad and Lisa, because your show is really terrific. I think if you read comics,
Starting point is 00:09:24 if you like comic if you like, you know, comic book adjacent media, it's such a great show. Y'all are such like terrific interviewers. You really like engage with the material
Starting point is 00:09:34 in like really great ways. But we want to drag you down to our level. Yeah, welcome to hell. We do an awful show for perverts. I did try to make, I did try to make a list of places I've been fingered. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:09:51 And I just had to do mostly, they're mostly fictional, just so that I can keep up. So I'm like, okay, my marital bed, the phantom zone. You've never been fingered at a con? No, I have not. I'm failing. The Phantom Zone You've never been fingered at a con? No I have not I'm failing I'm going to challenge you
Starting point is 00:10:12 Get fingered at a con I'm pretty sure you could figure that out You know what Inside one of those big furry costumes Who knows what's in there You could do whatever in there I've seen all kinds of things under the tents This is a new way to dissociate in line big furry costumes. Who knows? Oh yeah. You could do it. You could do whatever in there. You could do whatever. I've seen all kinds of things under the tent. This is a new way to dissociate in line.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Like, you can figure it out. He loves the line. I love being fingered. He loves the line. You could love the slit. It could be like, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:40 what is marriage really is about compromise, right? Yes. What is the vagina? But a line between the legs? Oh, boy. Oh, boy. That's relatable. Relatable content. The question I wanted to ask you was, what do you think the horniest fandom is like of the, of the primary fandoms, like which one, you know, yeah. Which one is the most hormonal? I think you can make a case for the X-Men.
Starting point is 00:11:11 I agree. That was my first thought. First thought, best thought. My first thought was furry fandom. Yeah. Yeah. Sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:18 But I feel like that's like more of like a culture than a fandom. Okay. Emily left the zoom briefly and has now returned with an armload of vintage X-Men action figures. Yay! And a Pee-wee's Playhouse. Oh, yeah, he holds the guy from Pee-wee's Playhouse. I don't have it.
Starting point is 00:11:33 He doesn't stay upright. Yeah, but this one, she's seen better days. Oh, no. She's been played with. Rogue's head detaches from Rogue's body. I know, her head. And then the brown leather from the jacket is totally peeled off. oh no Rogue's head detaches from Rogue's body I know her head and then the brown leather
Starting point is 00:11:46 from the jacket is totally peeled off but I love it I don't care it still looks good but are X-Men fans
Starting point is 00:11:55 hornier than other pop culture fans do you think and I I feel like it's only increased in the X-Men comics fandom since the Crack Cohen era I feel like it's only increased in the X-Men comics fandom since the Krakoan era. I feel like in the last batch of years, last five years or so, I think they've gotten really, really horny.
Starting point is 00:12:13 And I am here for it. Because the Avengers fandom, they're pretty chaste. I think also, I mean, the Krakoan era, it was almost edgingging the X-Men fandom because it was very cold in a lot of ways. And there was all of this like rebirth, but there was no like sex. You know what I mean? Yeah, I guess I guess we should say if you're not keeping up with the X-Men comics, the Krakoan era is something is a storyline that they are wrapping up or we have recently wrapped up in the comics where the X-Men got their own country and everybody came back to life via pods. Yeah, so I guess it was a kind of like birth without sex.
Starting point is 00:12:52 It was a pod-based birth. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ew. I mean, I'm just the cartoon person, so now I want to read the comics because of what you're talking about. Crack Cohen immediately sounds like a drug and a type of sex. And I'm going to look into it now. It's actually a magical island.
Starting point is 00:13:17 I think the place for you to start would be the Chris Claremont OG comics, Dark Saga something like that because I feel like those are super horny. Crack-On Era has lots of charts and graphs. Do you like charts and graphs? Absolutely not. Nope. I didn't think it was your vibe. No, I didn't like The Godfather 2 so I don't think I could do some charts and graphs.
Starting point is 00:13:40 That was a real graph of a movie, wasn't it? It was! It felt like I needed the yarn on a fucking bulletin board, and I needed to- Right, you're that all sunny meme. Yes, exactly. I hated it. I hated it. Is there like a sneaky, horny fandom?
Starting point is 00:13:58 It's like, oh, you wouldn't expect this, but people like Farside fans or something. Well, Farside fans, yes. I would say, let's get real small, the Swamp Thing fandom is really horny. The Swamp Thing comics are super horny. Yes, yes. I love like an interspecies relationship, which I feel like we're going to get into
Starting point is 00:14:19 because Swamp Thing is no longer a person or was he ever a person? He is a plant. And the way that him and abby arcane who is a human woman consummate their relationship is that he pulls a tuber from his self and she consumes it and then they start tripping in the green and it's it's really it's the hottest comic ever written or beautiful it is true it It's true. It is beautiful. I think I know the issue you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:14:46 It is rather beautiful. You're going to have to take your word for it. Well, that's fascinating. Haven't you always wanted to eat a piece of your lover and go into a magical plant world? Is Swamp Thing like a part of the you know, that universe with the mummy and Frankenstein? No, I think you're thinking of Creature from the Black Lagoon, who is
Starting point is 00:15:12 also very hot. Thank you. I love a fish man. I love a fish man. I love an ape sapien from Hellboy. I guess I get those two things confused. Thank you for clarifying that, because I totally confused those two things.
Starting point is 00:15:29 Listen, a lot of green hunks out there. Yeah, they're hanging out in the same spot. Sure, oh, yeah. They're all at the Marriott bar after Comic-Con. Somebody comes up to you, would you like to bite my tuber? You say, yes, please. yes please sure yeah i feel like the tuber always ask too that's more of a la quinta situation yeah there's a lot of tuber biting going on at your local la quinta anyway what a great podcast uh let's talk about uh let's
Starting point is 00:16:00 talk about tank girl huh um uh so uh brad and Brad and Lisa, you guys have some experience with this movie. You have like programmed it at a, not a film festival, but like at an Alamo draft house. You like presented this movie to a crowd, right? We did. It's part of our comic book film club. We did this one before the pandemic. And it was a very memorable screening. The entire audio was out of sync with the image
Starting point is 00:16:30 and we watched the movie that way. I think added to the uncanniness of the film. Yeah, yeah. It is such a dreamlike, trippy movie. I would imagine that maybe even that's not a terrible way to watch it. It may be deeply uncomfortable. I had a great time watching that screening.
Starting point is 00:16:47 And that was a screening where I discovered that there are a lot of Tank Girl fans. We had people coming up to us afterwards showing us their Tank Girl tattoos. It was impressive. Emily, you got super stoked when this one popped up on the YouTube Free With Ads section. Yeah. What's your experience with this movie? got super stoked when this one popped up on on the youtube free with ads section uh yeah what's your what's your experience with this movie um i just remember this was a fun moment in movies where it was like i don't know it was just a bunch of failed video game comic book like i i feel like
Starting point is 00:17:18 super mario brothers movie was out around this time yeah and then they share some vibes with this movie for sure yes and dick tracy came out like around this time which Yeah, and this shares some vibes with this movie for sure. Yes, and Dick Tracy came out around this time, which if Dick Tracy could please become free with ads, I found it kind of hard to find that movie to watch, which is, it was so huge when I was a kid. I loved it. And a lot of the practical effects and makeup and Tank Girl really reminds me of Dick Tracy a lot.
Starting point is 00:17:44 It just felt like a fun kind of campy practical effect weird makeup time. I love the Dick Tracy movie and we've been trying to program it because it is a comic book movie. But Disney owns it.
Starting point is 00:17:59 Disney owns it, unfortunately. But I love it because it's a comic book movie and also a sneaky musical. But I love it because it's a comic book movie and also a sneaky musical. So I love that. With music by Stephen Sondheim, which makes me very happy. Oh, I didn't know that. Sondheim did the music for this. Tank Girl, also a sneaky musical.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Which makes me so happy. That's so sneaky. Let's start talking about, I saw this upon release. I was like, I didn't dive too deep into the comics as a kid but I definitely read them they were around they were everywhere I'm going to oh yeah and they're gorgeous too I mean you see a lot of the comic book art in this movie and it all like looks so cool it's so gorgeous um and yeah and I saw it in theaters and then like it you know perennial cable movie I think it was a movie we've talked
Starting point is 00:18:43 about this phenomenon a little bit. Like, in high school when everyone's hanging out, someone puts something on the TV and you all hang out and you're not really watching the movie. The movie's kind of background. Empire Records, that was a big hangout movie. The Craft, a big hangout movie. And also Tank Girl.
Starting point is 00:19:00 So, yeah, but I hadn't, like, watched it in full since it came out. And I was really excited to get to rewatch it. I'll save my final thoughts for the final thoughts section, but this was a very fun rewatch. Yeah, well, let's start it out. Tank Girl starts. You get a great needle drop, just so many fucking amazing needle drops in this.
Starting point is 00:19:19 Girl You Want by Devo. It's not the like, I don't know where this recording of it came from. It is Devo. It's not the like, I don't know where this recording of it came from. It is Devo. It is great. Courtney Love was the music supervisor on this movie. And she was supposed to play Jet, I guess. Yeah, isn't that cool?
Starting point is 00:19:34 Yeah, that would have been wild. It would have sucked. Bjork was supposed to be in this. Yeah, Naomi Watts is like awesome as Jet Girl. Yeah, would have been a step down if Courtney Love would have would have acted it um but uh yeah Courtney Love picks some picks some fucking great music for this movie um so yeah and you're like kind of bombarded with panels from the comic it looks so cool um yeah this is something it feels like they tried to do with a lot of early
Starting point is 00:20:00 comic book movies was like let's include panels from the comic and like that kind of got shunted away but um but yeah this was kind of an early attempt um yeah and then we uh pop into the movie it's 2033 nine years from now oh fuck uh a comet hit earth um and and now water is currency we have uh we're introduced to Tank Girl. She is riding on an ox. She's got a big old, I guess, is that an ox? What am I? Lisa and I were trying to figure that out.
Starting point is 00:20:33 We were like, is that a water bison? I just called it a cow. It's like an Irish cow. It's one of those Irish cows. Shouldn't it be an Australian cow? It might be an australian cow uh hard to say what kind of cow it's adorable is what it is very cute and it dies later i know i hate it bummer i know yeah that is a that is that is a tragic moment um so yeah we we meet
Starting point is 00:20:59 tank girl she's uh she's out there it's the post-apocalypse she's scrounging for water uh she goes back to her base and she uh she holds up uh maybe the most 90s looking man of all time this guy has hair drapes he has five puka shell necklaces on um she's doing this kind of like boris and natasha voice she makes him strip uh and then we learn that this is like her boyfriend and this is like their sex game fucking great and it's also his special day it's his birthday yeah so oh it is his birthday oh yeah
Starting point is 00:21:35 she was looking for the perfect gift while she was out there yeah and so yeah he's the most 90s dude of all time um and very like ripped like clearly ripped in this uh post-apocalypse uh there's not a lot of carbs and not a lot of water so i'm sure he's doing a lot of manual labor well and i agree with you completely i was very much enjoying that also the boxer briefs very cute i don't know
Starting point is 00:22:06 are those like me undies like what's going on they were like this those were the first me undies fun and festive birthday undies but they get interrupted by these kids whose kids are these i guess that like the thing they live in is just like a commune, I think. And there's every probably everyone takes care of the like dirty kids who are always dirty. This is like, you know, you can tell it's the apocalypse because everyone has a little bit of dirt on their face all the time. Except for her. Except for her. Yeah, she yeah, she gets like a lot of blood on her face later. But yeah, but never dirt.
Starting point is 00:22:43 Yeah. So so, you know, everything's going good in this commune. We kind of like learn that, you know, they have a little well, so they have water in the commune. And that's when we meet the bad guys. We go to the Department of Water and Power. They've got the water, so they've got the power. That rules. I love that.
Starting point is 00:23:03 And the leader is just a fucking evil ass Malcolm McDowell love that he's in this having a fucking blast yeah he's just an evil dude he's mean to his henchmen he makes one walk over glass kind of John McClane style and then he
Starting point is 00:23:20 stabs him with this knife with like a Nalgene on the end and it sucks all of his internal water out. Which leads to a really rad practical effect where we get to see the wrinkly fingers of the man who is being drained, which I think is just so cool. But they didn't do the face. I kept like, because I hate that. I hate like in Dark Crystal when they're like like draining the life out of something. It always like disturbs me too much.
Starting point is 00:23:48 I can't. It's too much. But so I liked the hand as opposed to the whole body. That's a little too Indiana Jones. I can't do the whole face. No, thank you. But yeah, I mean, it's just so much fucking fun ass practical stuff in there. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:03 And it's like not all of it looks great but it all looks awesome like it's i i yeah i love all this stuff there's dutch angles everywhere like the movie is really shot incredibly well i miss this style this aesthetic of uh of comic book filmmaking really leaning into uh the extremes of it all yeah Yeah, no kidding. I know, the movie really looks terrific. So we go back to Tank Girl. She's on, she's like doing guard duty. She's just messing around. Another great needle drop.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Got Richard Hell and the Voidoids. Just a great, great, great, great kind of classic punk song there. I do think that we should talk about, we talk about this a lot on the podcast, about movies that make cigarettes look delicious. Yeah. I think this might be the number one that we've done.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Tastiest cigarette? Ooh, tastiest cigarette. Can you do that one, Matt? Tastiest cigarette. Thank you. No problem. It's got like red wrapping paper on it. It makes it look so cool.
Starting point is 00:25:04 She never runs out. she's always got them even and she's got the cool elvis lighter so she it comes with accessories like who doesn't want accessories with a with a habit yes well the my favorite thing about tank girl is it doesn't give a fuck about practicality when it comes to accessories and fashion i don't care i don't care about like justifying it at all which they don't do and i love that it's like oh her hair is a different color now she's got a new outfit on she's got perfect makeup for no reason her scar is gone i don't give a fuck it's very like looney tunes where it's like they they knock all their teeth out and then their teeth are back
Starting point is 00:25:41 in the next scene yeah it feels very that. And I love it. She's always got cigarettes no matter what. She's got cans of beer for no reason. She's got like, you know, I love it. This movie has its own weirdo logic and the logic is who cares? Like, it's great. One of the little kids, one of the little dirty kids comes up to her and the little kid calls her a butt smear, which is a great 90s kid insult we love
Starting point is 00:26:06 butt smear um and then somebody sneaks up she thinks it's her boyfriend and so she starts like cutting off her clothes with a knife um which was her special birthday treat as well she had left him a message with the boots that she got him for his birthday. Oh, I made him miss this. It's your day. Snip, snip. So I think this is interesting in context to the previous sex scene that was interrupted where they were doing
Starting point is 00:26:34 this role play thing. And then it's your special day. I'm going to do something that is tremendously vulnerable with these scissors. And it takes her a long time to actually look back and look at a long time. Yeah. And I feel like it's a montage.
Starting point is 00:26:50 I feel like there is something about this that is very different for her. Like she was going to give Richard something very special on guard duty in that trench. Yeah. Trench sex. Yeah. Yeah. How dry do you want it? Seriously. I bet getting fingered in that trench is not sex yeah yeah how dry do you want it seriously i bet getting fingered in that trench is not great right not much she likes pain though oh that's true she does but i also
Starting point is 00:27:14 love the how tank girl is just wasteful as fuck like we know that there's no water and she's just like cutting up her clothes and it's like bitch bitch, where are you going to get? There ain't no Hot Topic out there. Like, how are you going to get more tights? Emily, I'll argue the world is now Hot Topic. It is. In 2033, the world is Hot Topic. It's the 90s. You're going to fix it up with safety pins
Starting point is 00:27:38 and wear a dice. There you go. It's very 90s like beatnik kind of, you know, like it reminds me of, I lived in New York for a little while, and St. Mark's is this street where everybody pretty much looks like this. The Tate Girl District. Yes, pretty much.
Starting point is 00:27:54 So, yeah, so the person behind her, not her boyfriend, but one of the Department of Water and Power guard guys, she beats him up, she pulls all the pins on his grenade, he blows up, love that. So good. But, yep, it's great. And then we see that the goons are raiding their commune. They kill her boyfriend.
Starting point is 00:28:11 They kill her ox. Fucking tragic. And they take her to go work in their like mines. Of course, they're bad guys. They've got mines. So they like put her in this jumpsuit. They make her go to work. And she's just like shit talking them the whole time.
Starting point is 00:28:26 She like never gives up any vulnerability. Something else we talk a lot about on this podcast is when someone makes a joke that probably killed at the time, but now doesn't make a lot of sense. At some point, somebody like kicks her in a hole and she's like, what, are you going to make me miss Baywatch? Like we had so many baywatch jokes at this time it was just the just saying baywatch got you a laugh i think yeah there was like but i do remember that when she first gets there our malcolm mcdowell like she answers to him because he's like how many of my men did you kill? I guess she managed to kill eight of them and he wants her to work for him immediately.
Starting point is 00:29:10 Yeah. Yeah. She's she, he is extremely impressed with her. Therefore he needs to break her and make her work for him. Yes. And I loved that. I loved how he was speaking in like riddles or poetry or something.
Starting point is 00:29:24 And she was so over it. And then he, speaking in like riddles or poetry or something. And she was so over it. And then he, did he keep doing that or did he stop doing that? Yeah. That is a little one scene thing where he tries to do these like poems to her and she just like, couldn't care less. She just doesn't give a fuck.
Starting point is 00:29:38 It's, it's great. I mean, like her attitude throughout this is always so funny. I like also that it is happening within this beautiful atrium where he is conspicuously consuming water. They even have the 90s beaded curtains, but it's water, right? And he's got this like, yeah, I'm evil, but I'm also kind of a plant zaddy kind of thing going on. Like, it's just like, yeah, yeah i i'm evil and have hobbies you know and passions
Starting point is 00:30:06 it's always sexy when you see somebody can take care of a plant um so that's when we meet naomi watch she's jet girl she works on jets and she's uh a little more of an introvert and uh tank girl is gonna bring her out of her shell over the course of the movie. One of the mechanic-y guys is messing with her. And so Tank Girl goes over, kisses her, and she's like, get your hands off my girlfriend. Very funny. Pretty sexy. Love this scene. Wait.
Starting point is 00:30:37 Can we talk about the dirt shower? What the fuck was that? Yeah. Let's get to the dirt shower. Yeah. I guess because water is a commodity, so I guess to shower you just pull a chain and it dumps high school bathroom hand soap powder on you.
Starting point is 00:30:56 Yeah, and then you just vacuum it off. Yeah. It looked kind of, it was very sexy, and I imagine she looked like she was enjoying it. And she mentioned earlier that she was a big fan of vacuum attachments. And so you could see that she was really enjoying those attachments in the shower. I really admire that she can make the best out of a bad time. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:31:17 Me too. Yeah. Yeah, unflappable. So she breaks out and that's where she sees her first tank. She falls in love with the tank. Funny little audio joke. They play the music from the theme from Shaft that she's looking at the tank. Everything's pretty phallic with the tank.
Starting point is 00:31:35 It's great. We love that. But she gets captured. She puts in a straight jacket and, you know, still not giving a fuck. She's like, it's hard to play with myself in this thing. Great line. And then they shove her in a tube that is, I think, just not giving a fuck. She's like, it's hard to play with myself in this thing. Great line. And then they shove her in a tube that is, I think, just there to torture people.
Starting point is 00:31:49 It's just a tube that gets narrow and you're stuck in the tube. Oh my God, I would never want to go in that tube. The pipe. Do you know what it reminded me of? It reminded me of Charlie and the Chocolate Factory. Da-na-na, the way we're going. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:02 And then things get real scary. Or like a Justice Gloop had to be in a tube like that. Yeah. This is the only time that she recalls her trauma is when she is in this tube. She never speaks the name
Starting point is 00:32:17 of Richard again, her boyfriend. The little boy who was Sam's peer in the commune never comes up again. This is the only time we get to see that, oh, she has actually been hurt. Do you remember, like, the little girl and that little boy are, like, kind of teasing each other?
Starting point is 00:32:34 And she was like, something about nobody wants to see your little pecker or something? Yes. His peanut dick. Yes. His peanut dick. And then I thought, oh, no one will ever see his peanut dick now. Oh, yeah, that's so true. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:49 That's so sad. Perhaps in heaven. Heaven's peanut dick, yes. If you get to grow up and have sex, you can reveal your peanut dick to an angel. Based on what church is like. And then they high five you and they go like, that's totally fine here. Everybody loves it. We don't care about your dick size in heaven.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Okay, so the bad guys are looking for the Rippers. We don't really know what the Rippers are yet. They're like an evil marauding, you know, wasteland crew. So they use Tank Girl to like lure out the Rippers. Sure enough, the Rippers attack we don't get a good look at him uh but tank girl escapes and she takes the tank that's when we get our first like animated sequence uh love these they don't make a lot of sense in fact they make things more confusing yes they look fucking awesome are there reasons why they is there were the original
Starting point is 00:33:41 artists doing that do you guys know a little bit about that? It seems to be done in the style of Jamie Hewlett, the original artist. But I believe, you know, these sequences were created to just connect the dots of scenes that were either like edited out or never filmed. Yeah. There is a lot on the cutting room floor of this movie. And some of that made the movie make a little bit more sense.
Starting point is 00:34:06 But I think with such a dynamic film, it's not like you're like really searching for plot holes. Though I found some. What was on the cutting room floor that you guys know about? Well, I know the ending is, you know, I don't want to skip to the ending, but the ending is animated, whereas they actually did shoot a live action
Starting point is 00:34:25 sequence that they ditched. Oh, really? Yeah. And there was also a prosthetic kangaroo dick that was made and there was going to be a sex scene between Booga and Rebecca which I'm sad didn't make the film.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Yes, Lisa, I have this in my notes. I'm so sorry. Wait, wait wait wait wait do we have a description of what it looked like is that too grotesque for me to ask uh i mean i think use your imagination i just saw this in like imdb trivia and lisa i don't know if you have a better you know a better that is the amount of research i've also done. But I've imagined it. So, yes. I've imagined it. Of course. Well, we all have. We're all doing it now.
Starting point is 00:35:09 Our audience is doing it. Matt's doing it. What do kangaroo penises look like? Yes. It's a Red Rocket situation. I imagine. Could be. Could be.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Could be. Okay. So, she's got the tank and she decides she's going to go looking for the little girl from the village. Emily is cracking up. I think she's looking at pictures of kangaroo dicks. Emily, describe the dicks before I continue with the plot. It just looks like a little rat tail. Aw.
Starting point is 00:35:36 It's like... A little peanut dick. Hee hee. I can't wait to show you later. Is it maybe just that the rest of it's in the pouch? Okay, sure. I think that this is, there's no head. I'll tell you that.
Starting point is 00:35:50 It like gets pointier at the end. Maybe he's just uncircumcised. I don't know. Could be. Could be an Italian kangaroo. I mean, and it's weird because the scrotum is in the front. Interesting. The dick comes out the back and the scrotum is in the front. Interesting. The dick comes out the back and the scrotum looks so cute.
Starting point is 00:36:08 Oh, my God. The thing that it's like so skinny. And then it's like it's like a broccoli flower. God's perfect creatures. God's perfect creatures. I love it. That's why they make the ultimate soldier. There you go.
Starting point is 00:36:22 Yes. You can kick it in the balls from the front. That's why they're always so muscly. Oh, there you go. That's why they're always boxed. They're always jacked, dude, because they're always at the gym because they got that weird thin dick. That's right. Gotta compensate
Starting point is 00:36:38 somehow. If you got thin dick, you gotta get jacked. We got an old guy work out because his dick is so thin. I think that was New Zealand, but I don't care. No, it was great. Wonderful accent work, Matt. So they're looking for the little girl from the village.
Starting point is 00:36:52 They decide to decorate the tank and Jet Girl stole a jet. They decide to decorate it so they don't get caught by the Department of Water and Power. God, the tank and the jet look cool. They do look cool. They just glue a bunch of shit to it. It's so fun. of water and power god their tank and the jet look cool they're so they do look cool they just
Starting point is 00:37:05 glue a bunch of shit to it it's so fun it's like exactly what just like a little kid would do if they got to decorate a tank i love this the symbolism of the tank for rebecca because she is so tremendously guarded and i feel like the idea of gilding it in this kind of fun and crafty way, like reflects her so perfectly. Like when she first sees that tank, she really does see herself, I feel like. Yeah, I know. And she's like she is destined to be tank girl. You know, it's it's it just like it was it was preordained. So, yeah, so they're off and they know somehow that the little girl is being held at a place called Liquid Silver.
Starting point is 00:37:46 Liquid Silver is a strip club slash brothel planet where everyone is dressed in silver. There's a bunch of like silver, you know, a bunch of dancing girls wearing silver. All the men who are there are all wearing bathrobes. Tank Girl to like go undercover goes into this like room where you get your liquid silver costume and I think this is where we get maybe my favorite gag in the movie is like you know they want you to look and you know look and act very
Starting point is 00:38:14 pristine at liquid silver of course she's not fucking gonna do it she puts on all these crazy costumes and it says briefly that there's an ear piercing machine if your ears aren't pierced when we see her later after she's put on the craziest outfit she can It says briefly that there's an ear piercing machine if your ears aren't pierced. Yes. When we see her later, after she's put on the craziest outfit she can find, she has a bunch of earrings on and blood coming from her ears. I didn't notice that. It's a really quick shot.
Starting point is 00:38:34 It's so funny. I love that. Oh, can I say a fun fact? Please. I love En Vogue, the band, like the girl group. I love En Vogue, the band, like the girl group. The girl who's in there who's directing you about what to wear and the ear piercings, that is one of the singers from En Vogue.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Really? Yes. How fun. I know. That's so cool. And you want to know why I know that? Because I had just watched the Saturday Night Live performance that En Vogue did for Free Your Mind. It is one of the
Starting point is 00:39:05 most amazing performances you got to watch it oh my god amazing and then I saw that and I'm like that is the chick from Invogue and I and then I looked up and I was like it is like it was really exciting for me um another fun cameo in this when we finally find the little girl she's getting chased around by Iggy Pop so So that's, you know, gross character, fun cameo. So they rescue the little girl and they find the woman who runs Liquid Silver and they make her do a musical number.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Yay! The best case scenario for a hostage situation. I feel like that's exactly what I would do. It rules. It fucking rules. It's's just and they sing a they sing that old show tune let's do it um porter cole porter thank you um just it's it's not particularly funny in audio you have to see it you have to have to watch it you have to watch this movie. Yeah. Bang, bang, bang, bang, on the rocks, do it. Give them little cuckoos
Starting point is 00:40:07 and they can't do it. Let's do it. Let's follow. Her voice is great. She sounds awesome. I love Gwen Stefani. I think that this is very revealing that this is the song
Starting point is 00:40:24 that she would choose. Yes, tell us more. Because I feel like being in love and having love is actually her first priority. Like, she doesn't want to overtake water and power. She just wants to have her friend back. You know, the second that she finds a new home she goes well who's who's going to be the one who is going to be my love i really think like that is her guiding energy it's like hey let's do it let's just fall in love yeah yeah no that's yeah it is like it is taking
Starting point is 00:40:59 down the evil government it's like secondary she just accidentally takes down the evil government is like secondary she just accidentally takes down the evil government yeah yeah that's true she's in love with her tank she falls madly in love with that um although she did forget her last boyfriend real quick like yeah but did she we saw in the we saw in the pipe she did not forget she just keeps it inside and she seemed like a little part of that though yeah yeah yeah it is it is i don't know if this is like a meta joke or not but like it is interesting that that first boyfriend uh we just know nothing about he's just kind of this like good looking dude who dies to motivate her i think that's the criticism a lot of people have about comic book stories right is that like the female characters are just there to die
Starting point is 00:41:45 and motivate the male characters. So I don't know if that was kind of intentional. Like we have this movie, this comic book movie with a female protagonist. We have to have a bland man with no qualities to die so she can go into action. Honestly, when I was watching it, I was like, it doesn't feel like he motivated her to do shit.
Starting point is 00:42:05 She's just like, I feel like she's just somebody who is down for the ride and the adventure. She just kind of, things happen to her. She just kind of makes the best of situations, like we were saying. She is never earnest. She is never earnest.
Starting point is 00:42:22 So I wouldn't take what she's saying as any kind of evidence of what she's actually thinking, feeling at any time. Right. The second she comes out of the pipe, the first thing she says is, you've got a booger hanging out of your nose. I win. Right. Like I can go through this torturous time and I can feel all of this, feel all of this trauma and I'm still able to make the joke, which I go like, what would Tank Girl 2 look like? Like, is this kind of just like, hey, let's just laugh it off. Is that, you know, sustainable in the long term for her long term happiness? Well, have you guys heard about a potential reboot slash thing with Margot Robbie? Wasn't there something that there was in the works? Yeah, I do remember that rumor. And I feel like that has died on the vine.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Yeah. Yeah. Though that casting is a little on the nose. I feel like she's been that girl in so many movies. I would love to see someone else. I don't know. Like what she does to Harley Quinn. Right.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Which this does feel very Harley to me. Oh, totally. I don't know like when she does harley quinn you know right which this does feel very harley to me but also totally i don't know did you guys watch gotham the tv series i watched a little and then i stopped i watched all of it i loved it but laurie petty um plays like a there were a lot of teases in that show because they couldn't get the rights for certain characters including the joker so there was like a lot of characters that teased that maybe this is the joker maybe not because they couldn't actually say that it was and uh she was one of them like a club owner who had like joker makeup slash harley kind of makeup on because I think everybody agrees that she really feels like Harley Quinn like yeah but especially because of Tank Girl if you think about it but she made a little brief stint on Gotham and and kind of satisfied that you know oh yeah that's that is
Starting point is 00:44:18 great casting and yeah and I think that the director of that Birds of Prey movie um that is really good that Birds of Prey movie maybe like got a little bit forgotten. It's great. And it has a big Tank Girl energy. I mean, I think they and I think they explicitly said like we were kind of trying to do Tank Girl with this. Yeah. Anyway, that is a that is a terrific movie. And yeah, this movie is like this movie was a huge bomb, but was so fucking influential. I even like look at look at those Spider-Verse movies, like how they kind of like weave in the comic book panels.
Starting point is 00:44:50 I don't know. I think this movie like people weren't ready for it and people might still not be ready for this movie. Like this movie might be just like even like maybe people will get this movie properly in 20 years or something. It's so great. I think that you got to be around people who love it in order to like get in the mood for it. You know what I mean? I think some people are going to watch it and go, Oh my God, it's too much because it feels a little long.
Starting point is 00:45:16 I'm going to be like, but I don't care. I, I wanted it to last forever, but it does feel like, wow, so many adventures were kind of moving through by the time they get to the rippers i'm like oh wow we're just now getting to these guys like yeah crazy especially because i feel like what when i think of the movie all i think of is the rippers i feel like the rippers are like 90 of the movie because they are so scary yeah and if you like didn't read the comics the fact that and we and we're there, we're at the reveal in the plot.
Starting point is 00:45:49 If you didn't read the comics and it's like, oh, what are these monsters everybody's been talking about? Oh, they're kangaroo men. It's so crazy. And yes, they are kangaroo men. One of them is played by Ice-T. Look, yes. Who you could just tell is Ice-T under all the really cool looking kangaroo and makeup.
Starting point is 00:46:08 Also in this scene, we get tallest guy because Doug Jones is one of the additional. What? Additional rippers. Yes, that's right. It's the one that looks like Doug Jones. And he has a bow tie. And he has a bow tie on. Six foot four.
Starting point is 00:46:22 Yes. Because they looked like they were multiplying. I was like, every once in a while, there'd be a scene like when they were doing their prayer, like around the drum circle thing. And I was like, how many are there of these fuckers? Like, it felt like they were just like multiplying. I was confused. But I'm going to have to go back and look at that because I love Doug Jones so much.
Starting point is 00:46:42 And Lisa, you are correct. That is the tallest guy. So thank you for setting off our signature technique. We really appreciate that. I'm just stoked that someone listens to this show. Oh, dude. That rules. I listened to it immediately
Starting point is 00:46:57 when we got it on our schedule and then I fell in love with it. And then I got myself real nervous because I had to be on a show that I like. Oh, my God. Well, I love that the takeaway was that I talk about getting fingered a lot, which seems to be the main takeaway about me from anyone who listens to the show. And you know what? That's fine.
Starting point is 00:47:18 I find it inspirational and aspirational. Oh, okay, good. Just remember to wash those fingies, you know. There you go. Yep. And have some cranberry juice around for if you get a UTI. Azo, baby. I want a sponsorship.
Starting point is 00:47:35 Yeah. All right, so they've been captured by kangaroo men. Spoiler alert, she will sleep with a kangaroo man, and we're going to get into it right after this break we're back this is free with ads ex comic book couples counseling we're talking about tank girl she's been captured by kangaroo men uh they send her they send her and jet girl on a mission to like get photos of like a weapons stash that the department of Water and Power has. And so to get into the weapons stash warehouse, she does a thing where she dresses up like a fashion photographer.
Starting point is 00:48:34 And she pretends that they're there to make a hunk calendar from all the guys who work at the warehouse. They immediately believe that it's true and start posing for Naomi Watts, who's taking their picture. It's the most Bugs Bunny shit in the world I fucking love it I love the logic in this movie I love that they just believe her and start doing it it's so funny I guess it's from the comics because they intersperse panels from the comics where this is happening it's so really
Starting point is 00:49:01 I think so yeah again I don't i haven't read enough of the comics to know what came up and what didn't my takeaway from this is that you know i think that the pop culture zeitgeist is so full of drag like drag race and drag language everyone but her going saying realness i was like whoa i that was like a word that I feel like I'm only familiar with as a the past like I don't know decade because of RuPaul's Drag Race and I went oh so there was a influence of like drag and and stuff even back then yeah and I'm sure amazing I mean and again yeah like that drag slang has just kind of become internet slang, you know? But yeah, at the time, that was probably like, probably people didn't get that, you know?
Starting point is 00:49:49 And they're, yeah. So it's really cool. I just love this scene. It's so much fun. I also love when like big kind of scary, beefy dudes get like excited about getting attention. Yeah. Because they're like like they have to act so tough they can never act like they they want any attention then they get kind of excited that
Starting point is 00:50:10 they're special i i want to cry whenever i see that shit it makes me so happy i love i love jet in this scene because she is a character who has been having male sexuality imposed upon her. And it has always been used as a means to control her. And then when these guys are kind of presenting their sexuality for her, and she has the safety of the camera, she gets really into it. She has fun. She's feeling creative. She doesn't want to stop.
Starting point is 00:50:42 You know, she wants to really admire these guys and, and have these guys feel seen. I just didn't even think about it like that. That's so true. I love that. That's great. That's great. It is.
Starting point is 00:50:54 It is fun how, you know, she is so reserved because she's had a fucking terrible life. Like she's, for all we know, just been a slave to the department of water and power for her. She's never met a shampoo bottle in her whole fucking life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:08 Yeah, she's only been poofed with powder. Yeah, bitch, get some powder on that shit. But her skin is flawless, which makes me suspicious of big beauty. Like, how come my skin doesn't look like that? Do I need a desert? Do I need that powder? Yeah, you need a trench.
Starting point is 00:51:26 Gotta get a skin trench. labor maybe a little yeah maybe get a jet to work on this uh she and i have the same glasses and i was like what where does she i'm so proud of her that she didn't break her glasses she got hit by a tank and knocked out like and knocked out multiple times. Never broke the glasses. Very impressed. But also, what do they got? Like a Lens Crafters? There ain't no Warby Parker out there in the desert. Like, what happens if you break your glasses? Pristine glasses.
Starting point is 00:51:54 What did you have to do to get those glasses? It had to be dark. Also, can I say something really fucked up? No, go ahead. Every time he was maybe- No, Emily, not on this show. How dare you? It's going to be slutty. It's's gonna be slutty it's gonna be slutty um thing yeah it's my thing um god if my mom ever listens to this uh please lois don't um i whenever they the guy was like flirting with her and she's like i have to work on this
Starting point is 00:52:20 this whatever accelerator capacitor blah blah and he. And he goes, you could just like, fuck me or whatever. And she's like, I'm like, bitch, just fuck him. Like, I don't know. I would much rather do that than fix a tank. I don't know. I was just like, that'll be over in like a matter of three minutes. And you don't have to fix this tank anymore. Sure.
Starting point is 00:52:41 You could probably get a second pair of glasses. I don't know. Like, but see, this is why this is bad. I warned you guys. But I feel like, you know, like you have to kind of create some boundaries just so that you're not giving it away like too easy, you know, because that bar is just going to be lowered and lowered and lowered. And she's going to have to give it away for the most basic of things like Like, oh, you want your dust shower? Guess what? Well, I think that you're someone
Starting point is 00:53:08 who is in a long-term relationship. There's some of us who are out on the desert outskirts of Los Angeles in 2024 that are like, yeah, oh, you got a packet of toothpicks? I'll get on my knees right now. you've got a packet of toothpicks. I'll get on my knees right now. So they steal,
Starting point is 00:53:30 they steal the weapons and it, this starts the fucking, this chase scene that is so good. It's just so good. They're chasing after the truck. Great needle drop face to face, disconnected, a great nineties punk band.
Starting point is 00:53:43 I saw him last year. Guess who's still got it face to face. You see Devo too, haven't you? band. I saw them last year. Guess who still got it? Face to Face. You've seen Devo too, haven't you? I have seen Devo, yeah. I saw Devo two years ago. I had never seen him before. Did they wear the hats? They wore the hats.
Starting point is 00:53:58 A lot of costume changes. It was like seeing Bette Midler in Vegas. They know what the people want. They know what the people want. Yeah, if you get a chance to see Devo, if you get a chance to see Face to Face, hey, if you get a chance to see Devo, if you get a chance to see Face to Face, hey, if you get a chance to see Bette Midler, do it. Legends all around. I love this chase.
Starting point is 00:54:11 It has so many little gags. There's a thing where it just cuts to her and she's cooking a hot dog on top of the tank. She like surfs on the gun. It's so funny. It's got such great energy. I just love it. And then they get back to the kangaroo
Starting point is 00:54:26 hideout which is a bowling alley they live in a bowling alley when did it become a bowling alley I don't care but like it was also I think they just like it was just the ruins of something and they hold up there but it's underground or it's under sand oh I just
Starting point is 00:54:42 suppose the sand blew around yeah maybe it blew around yeah just blew around. Yeah, maybe it blew around. Yeah. The sand just blew around. Yeah, exactly. So they're having fun. They're celebrating. So she sleeps with one of the kangaroo guys.
Starting point is 00:54:53 Hey, it's time for Hunk Watch. Woo! It's Hunk Watch. There it is. So, you know, I think a lot of people, a lot of people like the sexy kangaroo man and I do too and they're great um but i mean laurie petty is one of the great hunks of my life i think she i mean this
Starting point is 00:55:14 movie league of their own point break uh you know three very important texts to me she's she's great i love it i love it i love a shiter. Yeah, she just says fuck you to everybody in all of her movies. It's great. There's no one greater than Lori Petty. Yes, one of the all-time hunks. Does anybody else have an alternate hunk for this movie? Any other hunks we want to shout out? I feel very vulnerable when I say that I thought that Richard was hot. He was my hunk watch. I was like, he's ripped. He's in the desert. He has plants.
Starting point is 00:55:48 I'm like, yes. Maybe it's just the 90s kid in me. I'm like, the floppy hair, it does it for me. You're right. You're totally right. I like Booga. You do. That's your hunk watch.
Starting point is 00:55:59 We were debating a hunk watch before we got on the mic, and that's who I'm going with. Oh, yeah. That's like Jeff Kober, right? The character actor who's usually playing like really scary serial killers. And here he goes playing like a really nice, sweet kangaroo soldier. I see a lot of synchronicity in her choice of partners between Richard and Booga. I feel like Richard was very kind of simple and open and like ready to play. And I think Booga has that same like golden retriever energy,
Starting point is 00:56:30 which makes sense because he was previously a dog. I feel like she likes to be, she likes someone who is like playful. Yes. I like, I was thinking the same thing about the golden retriever guy that is kind of trending on it. People call it that. And I Jordan has pointed out that a lot of the hunk watches I have are very responsible men because I feel like I don't I'm Jesus. Take the wheel. Most of the time, I don't want responsibility.
Starting point is 00:56:59 And he's more responsible than Jesus Christ. He's responsible for us all, they say. Hi, we're weirdly religious now but the thing is if i want to feel like the responsible one i gotta get a gold retriever guy because let's face it nobody else is gonna think i'm responsible so but it's uh i think he's absolutely adorable that guy who plays buga is also the landlord on new girl who's like trying to have a threesome with with jess and nick miller at one point and i remember going oh fuck that is him but um i definitely i think he's the one but i also kinda am into malcolm mcdowell. For sure. Yeah, I like how he's so intense,
Starting point is 00:57:51 but also such a little bitch. He's flappable. You can mess with him, and he wants her to like him so bad that it's like this fun cat and mouse kind of thing that he's always going to lose. And I don't know why I think that's kind of hot. He is very responsible. He is responsible for the water and the power.
Starting point is 00:58:10 That's true. He's a dictator. So who has more responsibility than a dictator? Mechanical hand, holographic head. Disappointing. Sure. Not a lot you can do there. Well, I think there's one thing involved
Starting point is 00:58:25 still that i could use but that's true but i mean we talked about maybe there is a a thing in that mechanical hand that'll do something i don't know built by the great james hong you can do anything like i want to get finger blasted by a robot hand with razor blades that's all i'm trying to say no i know i understand that's and and you should, you deserve that. You deserve it. So yeah, let's sprint to the end of Tank Girl. So they decide to attack the Department of Water and Power. She parasails behind the tank
Starting point is 00:58:56 and just fucking machine guns everyone. It's so awesome. I love it. I love it. They've got the kid. They're going to drown her in the pipe. That's really scary. So yeah, she fights Malcolm McDowell, who like has not been in the movie for a while he was in a hospital bed in
Starting point is 00:59:09 a mask he was shot from behind for a while he was there for a week and he loved every fucking second of it um it yeah really really yeah love that, like, he comes back for this, like, last scene. He's got a robot arm and a hologram head. They fight. The tank, I think, is on autopilot or something, because she's not driving the tank, but it's still blowing shit up. I feel like the tank is sentient. Is that weird? Sure.
Starting point is 00:59:34 I feel like she has created such a bond with the tank. Her love with the tank is true, and the tank can now anticipate her needs. Aw, that's so true so true like what you said earlier about her um wanting to be maybe she just is love and anything she falls in love with ends up becoming this connected thing to her kind of thing because i guess that bugha also like just senses when she needs help kind of thing and so yeah at the end of this movie is is she in a thruple with the kangaroo man in the tank? Yes.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Yeah. And I think that he's totally into that because the whole Johnny Prophet thing is it's all about freedom. You're right. Yeah. So I think we didn't touch on the kangaroo man's backstory. They were created by this guy called Johnny Prophet. They were created by this guy called Johnny Prophet. They were supposed to be a military experiment,
Starting point is 01:00:26 but then he fell in love with them and taught them this kind of weird religion where they don't use guns, but do a dance and sometimes do slam poetry. In that scene, right after we learn about Johnny Prophet, in the post-coital moment where Tank Girl is wearing the rocket boobs and they're staring at the ceiling. I feel like that is the most
Starting point is 01:00:52 Marvel movie moment in the whole... It's like when Ego, the living planet, is like, here's my dioramas of our family history. Or Odin opens a big book and is like, here's the history of of you know asgard asgard i almost said midgard and then i would have gotten my
Starting point is 01:01:09 but yeah and that there is a weird cutoff in that scene like i think that is where we would have gotten the prosthetic kangaroo dick and i I think that they did. I think that, you know, if the IMDb trivia is to be believed, like the studio hated that she fell in love with the kangaroo guy and wanted to cut out any scenes where they were like being sexual together. So like there, there is a sexier kangaroo cut of this movie somewhere.
Starting point is 01:01:39 I hope we get it someday. Release the sexy kangaroo. Thank you. Yes. We want to see the front balls. Yeah. Did you see I dropped a link in a chat thing with our Zoom. Oh, we didn't
Starting point is 01:01:52 even know. I thought it was a secret chat. Oh, no, no, no. That's the kangaroo dick. That's for everybody. Oh, shit. Oh, yes, please. Let's take a look. Yeah, take a look at it. If you go down to more and then go to chat, there's a link there. Oh, wow. You too.
Starting point is 01:02:05 Just for you. You know what? It's even weirder than I anticipated. It's really weird. Mine's way bigger. It is nicely compartmentalized. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:02:17 I like that they're separated. Yeah. The balls are way far away from the dick. Way far away, but my favorite thing is like- No, that's a different thing. You know what it reminds me of is Dunkaroos. You have to keep the cookies away from the dick. Way far away, but my favorite thing is like... No, that's a different thing. You know what it reminds me of is Dunkaroos.
Starting point is 01:02:26 You have to keep the cookies away from the frosting. Right, you do, exactly. Yes, that's what Dunkaroos, they're... They're bottled after the kangaroo's dick. But my favorite thing is his dick just looks like a rat got stuck in his dick hole. And then it's like the tail is out from behind. Maybe it was just swimming. That's what you get when you put cheese in your dick hole you get rats um so she
Starting point is 01:02:52 kills malcolm mcdowell she dumps some water on him the tank comes through and blows and blows everybody away um yeah and then we kind of just oh she shoots him with the water stealer too the little the so she she steals his water and deflates him um great great comeuppance for this guy and we get another little animated sequence um and i guess it was not originally supposed to be animated but it does look really cool there is a uh kind of a punk rock cover of let's do it uh joan jett and paul westerberg singing on that uh brian from Bad Religion on Guitar. That is a real punk rock Will Berries,
Starting point is 01:03:29 real punk rock traveling Will Berries made that song. It really, really sounds cool. Fucking soundtrack of this movie. There's great Bjork songs on it. It's just so good. It's loaded with awesome music. How do you feel about the Ice-T rap? Oh, I like the Ice-T rap.
Starting point is 01:03:44 It's cool. It kind of sounds for a minute like it was written for the movie How do you feel about the Ice-T rap? Oh, I like the Ice-T rap. It's cool. It kind of sounds for a minute like it was written for the movie because it's like about a woman blowing a bunch of people away. I don't think it was written for Tank Girl, but it does like fucking fit. Yeah. I don't really remember it. I kind of vaguely remember it, but I'm not sure. I guess I was like, oh, Body Count just has a song about women blowing shit up. Yeah, that was the case.
Starting point is 01:04:09 I know they play it for a little bit in the movie, and then I just watched the credits because I was just like, you know, letting Tank Girl wash over me. And yeah, I wanted to hear a bunch of songs, and they play like the whole song, and it's really, really great. Yeah, throw on the soundtrack to Tank Girl.
Starting point is 01:04:23 You're going to be having a good time. Yeah, that's kind of the end. i think we want to talk about our favorite lines in the movie before we talk about what we actually thought about the movie um emily you got something good uh so this is like the final battle between malcolm mcdowell and tank girl where you know she's got her little girlfriend from her home whatever base and she's in that tube, she's drowning and she's fighting him and stuff and then he wants her to say
Starting point is 01:04:55 that he won. And so he gives her like an ultimatum. Say it. And the little girl lives. I'd rather her die than live as your slave. What? The movie goes hard. I love that one, too.
Starting point is 01:05:12 As a child-free couple, we love that line. Screw your children. Save yourselves. I just thought that was such a fucking dark line. I'd rather let her die than I be your slave. And I was like, damn, I hope that little girl ain't hearing this. Because that's... She's like, do I get a vote?
Starting point is 01:05:37 Yeah, that's wild. I've never heard like any, you know, hero of something when there's a little child involved. Just go, fuck that kid it i've never heard that before i loved it i thought that was like so bizarre i don't know i'm never gonna forget it it was one of the coolest lines in a movie i've ever heard um so here's mine this is this is something that i will laugh at every time this is when when she gets captured by the kangaroo man i think this line was was even all over the trailer, too, so I'll always remember this one.
Starting point is 01:06:07 Hey, I have two words for you. Brush your teeth! Pristine delivery. Amazing 10 out of 10 joke. Well, hey, we want to rank this movie on a scale of 1 to 10 super loud commercials, but first, we're going to take a little break. We're back this is free with ads x comic book couples counseling uh we're gonna rank tank girl on a scale of one to ten super loud commercials uh brad you want to go first
Starting point is 01:06:57 one to ten what do you think yeah i i think if you trimmed this movie down just a little bit i think i would absolutely love it. But at the same time, as Emily was saying, it's not like there's one sequence that I would remove from the movie either. I think I'm going to go with an 8 out of 10. I really had a great time with it. Nice. Lisa, what do you think? I'm going to dock it one
Starting point is 01:07:25 point one full point for one moment and it is when they have just done their little freedom prayer dance with the kangaroos and then all of the sudden the ginger kangaroo donner is humping jet um without her enthusiastic consent and i feel like for her character who has been looking for a safe space um i i really felt i i really felt for her character in that moment so i so i'm going to give tank girl a nine wow emily uh what do you got okay uh before we like that's amazing the ginger kangaroo i did look at because i was looking at name naomi watts's imdb as well as that guys and then realized they're like they became besties after this movie oh i love that. So that guy, I can't remember his name, but his mentor is David Lynch. Okay. And so he had worked with David Lynch on some other.
Starting point is 01:08:32 So I think Naomi Watts' connection to David Lynch is through the pervy kangaroo with the red hair. So that's why she was in Mulholland Dry? Yes, because he was in it too. Wow. Is that the Naomi Watts movie, too? Yeah. Yes. And she's also in Twin Peaks The Return.
Starting point is 01:08:53 Oh, yeah. So his directorial debut is like Ellie something is the name of the movie, but she's the star of it. So if you go to his IMdb it's just the movie where it stars naomi watts they met on this movie and they became besties through this like and that's great they've been collaborative like collaborators ever since and the funny thing is his character is just basically sexually assaulting her through the whole movie and then they became the best of friends so i thought that was really funny because i was like i hate this kangaroo he's such a weird pervert asshole and then i found that out and i was like oh well i'm glad it turned into something
Starting point is 01:09:36 positive i'm giving it an eight i almost gave it a nine but there are just some i I don't know, it's a little, just a little too long for me in certain areas. The script sometimes is like, it's, the thing is, the script is saved by Lori Petty. Like, there are certain lines that she's got to say where I'm like, oof, if anyone else said this stuff, they could never sell it the way that she sells it. She is the reason why this movie i think is just outstanding her performance is so committed so great um and i love this movie but i'm gonna give it an eight because it's just a little little long and clunky at certain moments but yeah i'll i'll i'll go it's so i think i think you're right i think like this movie is a weird mess i think it was it was edited to. I think it was edited to shit.
Starting point is 01:10:25 I think it was edited in a way that the director didn't like, that the writers didn't like. Again, it has these animated sequences that look very cool but are clearly standing in for some connective tissue that wasn't there. There's some jokes that don't work. There's some bad comedy in it. There's some bad kind of improv moments. And yeah, but there are some tens that
Starting point is 01:10:47 come from your brain and there are some tens that come from your heart and i i i just fucking love this movie and it is a weird mess but i it i you know it i think but i think it's punk rock in a way that i really really like it's not you know it's that rock in a way that I really, really like. It's not, you know, it's that, yeah, it's that like, you know, Steve Albini, first thought, don't overthink it, first take. And I think it's, I think it's just great. And I think it's ahead of its time. I think people weren't ready. And I think it's so cool that so much of this shit has made its way into mainstream movies
Starting point is 01:11:20 from this weirdo bomb that, you know, nobody liked at the time. And I love that it stuck around. I love that it has been on cable. I love that it's still streaming. And I don't know. I think it's fantastic. I think that the shagginess of it is overcome by how inventive and fun and great everybody is in it.
Starting point is 01:11:40 I don't know. I love it. 10 girls a 10. I'm trying to see. A tippy. A tippy. Oh, wait. It's not quite a tippy. Oh, you gave it a 10 it. Tank Girl's a 10. I'm trying to see. A tippy. Oh, wait. It's not quite a tippy.
Starting point is 01:11:46 Oh, you gave it a 10? I'm giving it. It's a 10. Whoa. It's not an intellectual 10. It is a 10 from the heart. It's a 10 in that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:58 I'm like, really? That's lovely. It's beautiful. I love that. It's a beautiful movie. It's really it's really terrific so yeah that's tank girl i think uh yeah we i think i think we all think you should check it out if you haven't if you yes i i totally love it all right that is our review of tank girl let's
Starting point is 01:12:16 talk about plugs uh lisa and brad you have a great podcast called comic book couples counseling you dissect comic books the relationships in them and you interview great comic book couples counseling. You dissect comic books, the relationships in them, and you interview great comic book creators. Are there any episodes you would point people toward, stuff people should start listening to if they want to jump into the pod? Yeah, absolutely. We just did a 40th anniversary special of the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. We went into session with those siblings once again. We've covered them a lot on the podcast, but because it's the 40th anniversary, we felt like we had to do them justice once again. Our latest episode is in conversation with cartoonist Kyle Starks, talking about his first second book, Karate Prom, which is excellent. Highly recommend that book.
Starting point is 01:12:59 I know. What a title. I can't wait to read that book. I can't wait to read that book. And I would say that if our listeners of this episode went over to the Comic Book Couples Counseling Patreon feed, they could hear an interview with Malcolm McDowell that we did last year at Fantastic Fest talking about Caligula with him. It was a really fun, weird conversation because we were the first people to talk to him about the Caligula recut. Okay. And he was very emotional. That was a very hard project for him. And I was like, am I being there for Malcolm McDowell right now? It was so weird and such a wonderful thing.
Starting point is 01:13:37 Also, if you go into our archives, we have an amazing interview with Jordan Morris and Tony Cliff about Bubble. And we're going to have an upcoming interview about Youth Group with Jordan Morris. Yeah. Stay tuned. Subscribe. Make sure you're subscribed to the pod. It really is a great show.
Starting point is 01:13:53 And I think if you love, like, you don't have to be a regular comic book reader to listen. I think if you just love the stuff, X-Men and Turtles and all that great stuff, you'll find some episodes you'll love in the Comic Book Couples Counseling Catalog. I have a question. Yeah. Is Caligula a comic as well as? No. But when you have an opportunity
Starting point is 01:14:15 to interview Malcolm McDowell, you gotta put it somewhere on your website. And I would read that comic. I would read it. It should be a comic. Yeah. Emily, you got anything going on? Well, at the point of this episode, I think I'm still on tour with Mythical.
Starting point is 01:14:32 So I don't know. If you're out there, be looking for me in some weird bar somewhere. I'll be around. I'll talk to you. Just yelp, some weird bar. Yeah. Buy me a Budweiser and a Bullet Neat with some bitters in it. But don't, yeah, yeah, don't be weird about it.
Starting point is 01:14:52 Yeah, and I think maybe they've added some mythical tour dates, right? Like maybe there's some new dates if you couldn't catch the first leg. That's true. In Houston and in Dallas, we have a couple of fall tour dates. I don't have them off hand, but they're in the fall. You can Google it. I'm not sure if they've,
Starting point is 01:15:11 if they're sold out or whatever yet, but, and I'm really hoping that maybe the tour will keep going. Like, so if you want it to keep going, it'll just be like fish. We are always on tour. Oh,
Starting point is 01:15:23 that would be great. People are going to do mushrooms, come to the show. Well, we'll do that bubble globe thing in Vegas. Oh, the sphere. You got to do the sphere. Yeah, you got to see me, Matt Leib, and Jordan Morris on the sphere. Oh, yeah. I think we could sell out the sphere.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Yeah, for sure. I think we could easily sell out the sphere. For sure, yeah, yeah. Hello, sphere. Are you ready to hear about Blade 2? Sphere with ads. Yeah, if we don't sell all the tickets, we could just project a bunch of ads up there.
Starting point is 01:15:57 Pick up the money. People come to the show for the ads. Sphere, call us. Sphere. Hey, I was going to maybe cool it on the book plugin for a little bit but why well there's going to be a lot of plugin when it comes out so i think i was going to take a little break but we have such great guests here from the world of comic book media probably some people tuning in for the first time who love comics so i will mention that i wrote
Starting point is 01:16:19 a comic book called youth group uh the arts by the great bow Bowen McGurdy. It is a YA horror comedy, and you can pre-order it now, wherever you get your books and comic books. Bits.ly slash youthgroupbook, if you want to see the cover and get those pre-order links. Bits.ly slash youthgroupbook, and we will be picking somebody to pick our next movie who pre-ordered that book,
Starting point is 01:16:39 because Emily's on tour recording a little bit in advance, so we can't quite announce the winner yet, but that is forthcoming. Stay tuned. One of our future movies will be picked by you, one of the listeners of Free With Ads. And that's our show. Hey, thank you, Comic Book Couples Counseling.
Starting point is 01:16:54 Thanks for being here. Yes, thank you. Thank you so much for having us. That's it. Tune in next time when our movie will be The Opposite of Sex.

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