Freeway Phantom - BONUS: D.C.'s Missing Voice with Henderson Long

Episode Date: July 26, 2023

Henderson Long has worked on missing persons cases for over a decade. Long was also instrumental in the early stages of our Freeway Phantom investigation. We talk with him about his personal connectio...n to the issue and his work to help families searching for answers in Washington D.C.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:35 This podcast also contains subject matter that may not be suitable for everyone. Listener discretion is advised. I'm just a guy who grew up in DC. So all of the things, I wanted to make a difference. I wanted to do better. I wanted to help families. I knew how I feel to be out there, you know, searching for your loved one. It's heartbreaking. Especially when the little girls go missing. And daddy looking for him and mama looking for them and they feel like the police ain't doing nothing.
Starting point is 00:02:11 You know, what are y'all doing? Because they don't see anything. It's heartbreaking. The homicide detectives termed the cases the little girl cases. This child was laying on the side of the road. I wouldn't go, no way. I would come out help. Those first five murders should have been a huge warning bell for the police.
Starting point is 00:02:39 We just want to know what happened. This person must have saw that they were thinking that maybe it's just one person and he says, oh, they need to know. This is me. I thought they'd take with Ketchum. I thought it was just a matter of time. I'm Celeste Headley and this is Freeway Phantom. In the early stages of our Freeway Phantom investigation, we consulted Henderson Long of DC's missing voice. Henderson helped us understand the systemic and regional issues that affected the freeway phantom investigations in the 1970s and current cases of missing and murdered children. The foundation never changes with any kind of investigative work, the roots of it.
Starting point is 00:03:26 What is about the core stuff? Never, it's either never change. As a DC native with deep roots in the community and years spent building relationships, Henderson is an invaluable source of support and expertise for the families who are searching for answers or coping with loss. For this bonus episode, we dig into his story to learn more about what led him to the work he does today and the hard fought battle for change in DC's justice system. Basically, what I do is I work right alongside with the lead detective that's working to find a missing person here in DC. I'm actually going behind him or sometimes ahead of him to interview witnesses, to do cell phone traces, to do surveillance, to take
Starting point is 00:04:19 fingerprints and DNA and all this kind of sure is submitted. It's ver rewarding. Whatever the c we're looking for. That's objective is to stay on for missing people. So w about investigating cases to do this work because i frustrating. You have to
Starting point is 00:04:44 behind some time to get the information you want. Henderson's nonprofit works on missing persons cases in Washington, D.C. and he often acts as a liaison between the Metropolitan Police and Black communities. The work is hard. It's taken years of emotional and physical labor to establish the trust Henderson now enjoys, but this work is personal. It's taken years of emotional and physical labor to establish the trust Henderson now enjoys, but this work is personal. It's directly connected to his upbringing in DC and tragedies within his family.
Starting point is 00:05:15 I was born in 1968, I opened Southeast Washington DC, the ward executive Washington DC. We all lived in a, like, a little one bedroom apartment with my grandmother, my mother's mother, and my father got a good job and we moved over to Ward 5, which is another Northeast sector of DC. And that's where I grew up.
Starting point is 00:05:37 My father still lives in the same house. As a kid, I grew up in the crack era of DC. I grew up here where crack it came into our communities in the 80s. And the late 70s is when it was starting. So as a kid, I got a chance to kind of see all that at a low level, you know, just from my eye seeing it. I'm never was involved in it. Never got involved with nothing like that as far as no homicides or nothing.
Starting point is 00:06:05 But I saw it. I saw my friends get involved. I was growing up. I saw a lot of my friends who I did, or most of them are incarcerated. I just saw a lot of deaths here in DC. I was going to be quite frank and quite honest with you. It was a lot of violence here in DC trying to control the drug trade. Everybody wanted to get a piece of violence here in DC trying to control the drug trade. Everybody wanted to get a piece of it.
Starting point is 00:06:26 And as a result, we saw rise in homicides. As a kid growing up, I got a chance to lose love once. I'm probably a seven time loser. I've lost seven or eight people to homicide. And when I tell you, I seen violence, I saw it with my own eyes. I lost my kid. My oldest son, his mother was murdered by a 15-year-old back in 1992, 1993. I know about death firsthand and violent crimes.
Starting point is 00:06:57 I know how I feel for the community to have information on your homicide, but one nobody come forward. So as a person, this kind of motivated me to do the work I'm doing and also being in the military. Growing up surrounded by violence, Henderson wasn't always sure he would make it out. He thinks his father for emphasizing the importance of structure and discipline.
Starting point is 00:07:23 He was tough. My father was really tough. And he laid the law down in the house. Immediately after high school, I had to graduate. You know, my father told me I had to get out. I had to even go to work, or I had to go to school. And I didn't really want to go to college, so I went to military.
Starting point is 00:07:39 And I did about seven years, and I came back home. I got a chance to work with different people, who would meet different people, and see the goodness in people. Because most people are good people, you know, for the most part. My main aspect of my story was the core was my father and my grandmother.
Starting point is 00:07:59 They were at the core of me growing up. Cause you know, sometimes you need a man to tell a man, how to be a man. And so my father was probably the biggest example that I had growing up and the reason why I was able to make the decisions that I made. Henderson decided he wanted to be that kind of example for his community too. He eventually established DC's missing voice with a focus on finding missing and exploited persons. Another issue that hits painfully close to home. In 1999, his aunt Alene went missing.
Starting point is 00:08:36 My aunt was last seeing September 15, 1999. Family couldn't reach her. you know, they kept calling her and calling her and calling her with no hands. So we called, we got the rental office to do a wellness check. And when we got to the apartment, my little cousin was there in the apartment alone, Jerome and his baby seat. He was a baby at the time. And he was strapped in. He had been here for a couple of hours. And, you know, my family knew something was wrong. We called the police and the police got involved to know of it. We searched, searched, searched, and searched. And at the time, we weren't where we are now with missing persons. In 1999, we didn't have social media like we have social media now.
Starting point is 00:09:25 We didn't have some of the tools we have now. My family was, they just thought that the police was gonna take care of it, the police know the police got you. They were loud and the police. Kinda find out a lot of things probably could have been done better by the police department. They never asked them for DNA. Never asked all this time.
Starting point is 00:09:46 My family told me, look, don't talk about this no more. We're not getting no answers. Just don't talk about it. It was just so painful. When Aline went missing in the 90s, the federally funded database, National Missing and Unidentified Person System, or Namus, had not yet been established.
Starting point is 00:10:05 And the combined DNA index system or CODIS was brand new. Henderson uses both systems and his work today. He says that had they been available earlier on, it could have saved his family years of pain and uncertainty. We had three unidentified remains found here in DC. And we just knew one of them probably was a lien because it was in the same street that she would frequent. I told my family, you know, we, we got to get our DNA and we were ever approved. That's her. I guess some kind of closure.
Starting point is 00:10:38 Well, in the process, when we put our DNA in, we got a hit on a body that was found in 2000. So she had been in the more from 2000 to 2019 before she was identified. Now, let me tell you about good detective work. My detective took a shot in the dark. He had some remains up there at the Merlin Court in his office. They kind of fit the same description height of her. He asked them, test those bones. Went and test the bones, it turned out snake, it was her.
Starting point is 00:11:12 So my family went through a lot of heartache because we didn't know about all the different technology that was available and what we should be using to solve her case. And they quite frankly didn't want to talk about it. They didn't even want it. This one was so deep and so painful. It was still wide open. But we just ignored it. We still wanted answers. We still, we was the more desperate for the answers. So they had to go
Starting point is 00:11:38 ahead and they were on the lake, put their DNA in, they got a match, and then we convinced the sun, drawn to put this in, and that was a real match, and they were positive that it was her. And that's how we got the answers. The End Sacred Skando, one of the best new podcasts of 2022, is back with a closer look at the darkness surrounding mega-church La Luz del Mundo, and its leader, Na San Joaquin Garcia. They believe that he was Jesus Christ on Earth. It wasn't even so much that he liked sex. He wanted something to pray. It's the largest cult in the world that no one has ever heard of.
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Starting point is 00:13:07 911, what's your emergency? You shot her! Oh my God! It's a nightmare we could never have imagined. And a killer who is still on the loose. My small town rocked by murder. There are certain murders I'm scared to discuss. In the 1980s, we're in high school losing friends, teachers, and community members.
Starting point is 00:13:27 One after another, after another, for a decade. We weren't safe anywhere. We're teenagers terrified to leave our own homes. Would we be next? Who is killing all the kids? And why? In that moment, I saw rage. And why do you some want the town secrets to stay dead and buried forever?
Starting point is 00:13:49 I'm not sure why you're digging up all this old stuff again, but I'd be careful. Don't say I didn't warn you, Nancy. Listen to the Murder Years on the iHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Even though Henderson found an answer to his aunt's mystery, his personal tragedies didn't end there. His niece went missing around 2012 and at that point Henderson was fed up with the cycle of searching and waiting for answers. He decided to get involved with the investigation. I had a niece, 12 years old,
Starting point is 00:14:35 she kept running away from home, and the police were working on it, and you know, they got 80 million kids that's missing. So I was out there on the ground talking with dope dealers. What was going through my head was, this is what the police go through it, and they probably go through it worse than what I'm seeing. She was missing, often on, I say about three or four years.
Starting point is 00:15:00 She's 21 now, she's got four kids, but the trauma that she went through, the domestic violence, you know, leaving names out, domestic violence, and all that stuff that she went through, you know, they suffer. They suffer, it changes. After this, his mission was clear. Looking for hers, what got me involved in this, his mission was clear. Looking for hers, what got me involved in this,
Starting point is 00:15:27 I saw how hard it was for investigators to acquire and get information, to get information that they need to solve these cases. And it really drove me to do more and to want to do more, to assist them. So I realized I had to learn more about the logistics of investigating cases. And I had to know know you got to know what you're doing Because sometimes you really can mess up a case unintentionally. So I had to learn I had to I had to ask a lot of questions from
Starting point is 00:15:55 Swann law enforcement officers that are investigators and sit down with them talk with them I had to do my own study and I did both the various courses To learn how to do this in a professional manner and not just as a citizen. Henderson began working part-time as a trace investigator. He now offers his services to families at no cost. You don't want any money. This is all pro bono work I do.
Starting point is 00:16:21 And all the materials and stuff, some of the stuff is from the police department, some of it's from, but you do all this out of your own pocket because you know what it's like. I don't really want to work by contract because I don't want to charge no family to look for a missing person unless they are rich, taking pay, but nobody is test driving me. I'm doing this without funding. Part of his work includes running platforms
Starting point is 00:16:52 to publicize cases in DC. Platforms are important when they come to missing people. I have DCs missing boys and missing and exploits the East of the River. Missing and exploits the East of the River gives and exploited East of the river. Missing and exploited East of the river gives focus to East of the river residents. What they can just focus on, they missing people. Because they hit me up and they told me,
Starting point is 00:17:13 we get tired of hearing about all these missing people is having all of it. When we got the highest number of missing people East of the river, so I created that page to get more eyes on the street in that area. The more eyes you have, the more you can get that call. Now DC's missing voices, all of the missing people in DC. When you talk about it, investigate it too. We in the modern world now, and this internet is something, it can be very powerful when you're doing these public inquiries,
Starting point is 00:17:48 when you're asking the public, the Metropolitan Police Department is seeking the public's assistance locating, so and so, so and so. 80 million people may see that. So that's now a public inquiry, and we get a lot of tips. We have a lot of tips that we follow up on. That's why we have them for the main reason.
Starting point is 00:18:10 That's the promote and to publicize us and to give NPD a greater reach in terms of audience to their missing people in Washington, DC. As we've talked about throughout the season. An investigation has many moving parts. It's complicated and constantly moving like a clockwork mechanism. Details can get lost or overlooked. Henderson wanted to get the best training he could to make sure he was on top of his game. God name, that's him is Palmer. When Great Britain created a professional course for regular
Starting point is 00:18:49 people to go through to learn how to operate within the private sector to do trace investigation, all the necessary paperwork that you need to fill out. Like if you're my client, I need to know what paperwork to fill out because that's what separate the regular citizen from the private professional investigator. He has documentation meaning he has an intake form, he has a contract, he knows all the legal considerations when he's doing surveillance so he doesn't embeil it anybody's constitutional rights if you have to investigate the case and let's just say it's the case that this criminal malice involved, you know the aspects of the law, you can protect that data from being disqualified
Starting point is 00:19:33 and thrown out if you know what you're doing. So certain things you have to know in terms of the legal considerations. And these are just some of the things you learn, how to properly interview people, what questions to ask, you know, the theory behind an interview. For example, when you go into, before you can go into the door, you got to have an objective. You got, if you want to confession, if you want to just build some
Starting point is 00:19:59 rapport with them and hit them up back up later again, knowing all of this before you go in, it's a part of your preparation to be an investigator. You know, there's certain principles that we operate off of. You know, before we go in, we've tried to learn all these different things before we go and start formally interviewing people. Much of Henderson's work as a trace investigator
Starting point is 00:20:23 involves gathering information. and he's had to hone his skills in interviewing and note-taking, even organizing data. You can't just jump out, these are some things you learn when you go through this certification, how to document your paper work, how to make sure it's in order, how to write up a report to submit the law enforcement. What's the fabric of it? What would that sworn off to need to have? What is he looking for?
Starting point is 00:20:52 You supposed to know the basic stuff. So there's something useful when it comes in. You learn all this going through this certification and this is an international certification meaning all the traits and best skis got together and they started from power and methods and stuff like that for the guy who may not be working in law enforcement who may want to go into the private sector. He can understand how to do it and they can't with a manual manual. You have online tutoring, you can call it, you can ask questions, your goal mind, when you're any investigator,
Starting point is 00:21:31 it's standing contact with senior investigators. I've learned that. You wanna call them, you wanna say, hey, I got this. And they're usually not gonna give you the answer, but they'll point you in the right direction. They'll help you. They've been there before, They've already done it.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Your case ain't the first case on the design. He got into this work because of his passion for service and its emotional work. But after a decade of experience, there's also a familiar pattern to the job. Well, I might get off and work. I might get a call and I might go and do a general intake with a family. It may be over the internet.
Starting point is 00:22:09 It might be over the phone. I'll throw me some known locations with the person frequent. We'll go there with such surveillance because we all creatures have it. And we may head out. I might do some reverse phone checks. They may be getting calls from their loved one from a given number. And they may want me to find out what's the location.
Starting point is 00:22:30 Where are they at? So we're going to try to figure out where they are. Will you social media look at the background or where they took a picture at? And we try to figure out where they are where they may be hanging out at. A lot of my work involves surveillance. Because you got to lead detective,
Starting point is 00:22:48 the swan monk was not sick. He's doing a heavy lifting in the office. I might go out there day to day, and I might just be sitting at a location. And I positively, I did a missing person. They never see me or know anything about I'm there. I call 911, MPD patrol services come, contact a missing person. They bring them back in, if they're under 18,
Starting point is 00:23:16 if they're over 18, they'll notify the family, the missing person has been located. So a lot of this surveillance and light investigating work. Henderson took us on a ride along through his patrol routine. My producer Jamie and I sat in his SUV as Henderson drove around the neighborhoods doing standard surveillance. We're just gonna ride there and you know you guys can take a look. This is every day what you're going to see every single day. Sun up the sun down. This is what's going on in the community.
Starting point is 00:23:51 And it's perpetuating our most severe cases. Sacred Skando, one of the best new podcasts of 2022, It's the largest cult in the world that no one has ever heard of. For three generations, the Luz del Mundo had an incredible control on his community, that began in Mexico and then grew across the United States, until one day. A day of reckoning for the man whose millions of followers called him the Apostle. Their leader was arrested, and survivors began to speak call him the Apostle. Their leader was arrested and survivors began to speak out about the sexual abuse, the murder and corruption. This is just a business and their product are people. Listen to all episodes now on the I Heart Ready Up, Apple Podcasts
Starting point is 00:25:02 or whatever you get your podcasts. 911, what's your emergency? You shot her! Oh my God! It's a nightmare we could never have imagined. And a killer who is still on the loose. My small town rocked by murder. There are certain murders I'm scared to discuss.
Starting point is 00:25:21 In the 1980s, we're in high school losing friends, teachers, and community members. One after another, after another, for a decade. We weren't safe anywhere. We're teenagers terrified to leave our own homes. Would we be next? Who is killing all the kids? And why? In that moment, I saw rage. And why do some want the town's secrets to stay dead and buried forever? I'm not sure why you're digging up all this old stuff again,
Starting point is 00:25:50 but I'd be careful. Don't say I didn't warn you, Nancy. Listen to the Murder Years on the iHeart Radio app Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts. Henderson Long says the tasks can become routine, but every case is different. There are abductions like the case of Relisha Rudd, an eight-year-old girl who went missing in 2014, and runaways like Henderson's niece. On our ride along, he talked about other cases he's worked on.
Starting point is 00:26:31 Right now, we're at 19th and Benning Road. Between 19th and Benning Road and 15th and Benning Road, it's kind of like an area where we have a lot of missing persons that we find in this area. There's a lot of drugs, a lot of heroin. I don't know what you guys know about K2 and PCP. K2 is a drug that's killing a lot of people. And I know you probably know about PCP and makes you hallucinate. And so it's a lot of the usage of that drug here.
Starting point is 00:27:05 And that's prompting some of the missing persons cases, it's prompting some of the violent assaults, because sometimes they think things are happening that are not happening, because they're hallucinating. Just the fact that they're out here unsupervised, it's a bit can of worms. You never know, snake eyes, You could turn up snake eyes. And we find a young person, even in jail or dead.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I had another missing person's case, Dominique Franklin. He was murdered. He was missing. And he was located. He went before the judge. The judge gave him some orders to do something. He said, screw the judge and screw everybody and walked off on the day later, he was found dead, shot in the head. He left on his own, nobody
Starting point is 00:27:51 talking to him, but at the end he still wound up losing. He was 16. So Dominique Franklin is another case that I kind of worked in the end of it. The last part of it I kind of got involved with it a little bit, but missing persons can lead to anything. It could turn up, them getting arrested for something, for the rest of their life, for them losing their life, for taking somebody else's life. The discrepancy between the number of cases and the resources available to solve them mean many slipped through
Starting point is 00:28:25 the cracks. In episode 10 we talked about Rillisha Rudd. She was missing four weeks before her case received any media attention and she has still not been found. Henderson says publicity can bring children home safely. Keeping the cases out of here the public's eye, educate them about it. That's what really sparked and put the pressure on the police to do something. Them families have to pressure the police. You know, they have to continue to press the police and anybody who can help publicize their case. That's what keeps your case alive. I mean, that's what keeps your case alive. I mean, that's what keeps these cases alive.
Starting point is 00:29:08 That's why we, the way we are, we're going to let you know. Because we don't want the community to go to sleep on it. People will forget about the start of it. You don't say nothing, you don't keep making noise about it. They'll forget. They will forget. There's a big question that hangs over Henderson's work. What issues in the community are contributing to the more than 2,000 cases of missing children
Starting point is 00:29:34 each year in DC? Why do so many cases slip through the cracks and how can we begin to solve the socioeconomic issues at play? You do have people who've become victim of their circumstance, whatever's around them, like the drugs, if it was domestic violence in the home, if it was poverty in general,
Starting point is 00:29:57 because poverty is our motivating factor here. And we started talking about these issues. The mayor of Washington, Washington DC formed a task force and we was examining and we started looking at missing persons and we started looking at solutions and we couldn't find a cookie cutter, one fits all because we realized, man, you're talking about a great big social issue.
Starting point is 00:30:22 The family structure is the number one pre-person. And what drives that generation of wealth gaps? Shoot domestic violence in the home. Maybe the new boyfriend is touching the door or maybe the new boyfriend is hitting the mother or maybe it's lack of affordable housing. We got 80 people living in one home. Somebody going out of the there and uses the kids.
Starting point is 00:30:47 It's a lot of stress. You know, we don't have a lot of hardcore solutions and real outreach in terms of services for mental health. You know, so you see crazy cases, you get out of your like, Alicia Rowe and you start wondering, how could the mama do this? Now, when you look at the family.
Starting point is 00:31:08 Henderson says sometimes kids run away from home because something drives them away. Domestic violence, poverty, drug use. Sometimes they're lured away by predators like the freeway phantom, but he says no matter
Starting point is 00:31:21 the reason why they left home, all missing persons cases need to be treated with the same level of seriousness. Sometimes it's a lot of coercion. You know, sometimes it's a lot of dynamics within the person walking out the door on it. Just because they left on it, I got another case for you, Jolly Musa from Virginia, voluntarily walked out of her home to go meet a young man
Starting point is 00:31:47 and never return. Now, just because she voluntarily left, we don't need to downplay her case and think that she's a runaway. See, because at that point, when you do that, a lot of the action that's supposed to be taken isn't taken. Now, have we started looking for her sooner? Could we have found her alive and maybe saved her?
Starting point is 00:32:11 We have never known. One solution begins at home. It's staying in touch with our communities. When someone goes missing, especially a child, is chaos. You don't know how to put your left shoe on from the right. You're something you think you will remember. You won't remember. We should know our patterns, our loved ones patterns.
Starting point is 00:32:34 We should check up on them. You know, we shouldn't be so distant and know the technology now, the phones, everybody emailing. You know, you gotta give people a call and see, you know, just how they're doing. I got the oldest sister and, you know, she called me and let me know she home, you know, and stuff like that, so.
Starting point is 00:32:56 We got to check on each other. We have to take care of each other, in the communities, in our families. This is important, because we have some cases where the community's and our families, this is important because we have some cases where the missing person wasn't reported missing for all. They were last seen one year ago by the families being so estranged. Times of the essence and the missing person's case getting that report in and getting the investigation going early the trace going early to trace and going.
Starting point is 00:33:26 When we attended one of Henderson's community outreach events in southeast DC, he laid out the Metropolitan Police Department's five steps to prepare you in the event your loved one goes missing. The biggest problem we have in the District of Columbia, they're not being recorded in the timely manner. So much time elapsed. The cakes of Quran, Jones, it was two days, the dumpster was gone onto China. So that, I mean, that's the first step was just reporting them.
Starting point is 00:33:55 In episode nine, we mentioned the case of Coyon Jones, a two-month-old whose mother confessed that she rolled over on Coyon and he stopped breathing. She later placed his body in a dumpster. Kion's remains were sadly never recovered. What we're trying to do is trying to get people to understand. Call for help, call the police. Because you know, the medical examiner came out and examined his body and realized there was no trauma to the body, everything just would have been an accident.
Starting point is 00:34:24 But by him being thrown into a dumpster and they never been able to find him to do any kind of examination or determine anything with any kind of medical certainty. It just looks suspicious and then you give us 80, 90 different stories and we don't know what what to believe. Then you know you throw a little bit of substance abuse in there and you know the social things in there and you got, you got some stuff. As for Henderson's future in this line of work, he told us he's looking to transition into doing it full time.
Starting point is 00:34:58 Well I always had a vision that DC will lead the country and then take the leadership role on missing persons that is should it. We're going to continue to work and work and work and never be complacent about missing persons and what more we can do to locate missing persons quickly. We can never rest. You can never rest on this stuff. It's never a situation of complacency. The more you go through it, you learn.
Starting point is 00:35:29 Because every case, every single case got a different twist in it, which requires certain level of readiness. So talking about all these different things and implementing all these different tools that we can use. It's so much work to be done, but I'm hoping that DC will continue on. I'm going to keep pushing legislators to get legislation going back to initial investigations, obstruction, lying to investigators.
Starting point is 00:36:02 I think that there should be a penalty for that. If we find out you're lying, or you don't provide correct information, and in Washington, D.C., there's really no penalty for that. Like in Maryland, if your child is missing and they under the age of 18 or 13, you better be reporting them within 20 hours. If they investigate me find out you knew and as a result of your negligence, the child suffers trauma, Kellan felony, and here in DC they don't have that. So we hope in DC to step it up legislatively. We hope in the us step it up from a law enforcement perspective and definitely
Starting point is 00:36:42 that with us from a law enforcement perspective and definitely the community is huge, way bigger than law enforcement, get the community involved and active in the use of the technology and the tools and stuff. Oh, we cook it with gas, then. That's what I'm hoping. We wanna give special thanks to Henderson Long for all his work on the Freeway Phantom case and his support of this podcast.
Starting point is 00:37:10 He's been instrumental in helping us tell the story of these young girls both from the 1970s and today. Henderson's work in the community is vital. His organization DC's Missing Voice is an official 501-C3 nonprofit. If you want to support the work he does, reach out at henderson.long22 at iCloud.com. Or you can find the DC's Missing Voice Facebook page and stay up to date on current Missing Persons cases. Freeway Phantom is a production of I Heart Radio, Tinderfoot TV and Black Bar Mitzvah. Our host is Celeste Hiddley.
Starting point is 00:37:53 This episode was written and produced by Noemi Griffin. The show is written by Trevor Young, Jamie Arbright, and Celeste Hiddley. Executive producers on behalf of I Heart Radio include Matt Fredrick and Alex Williams with supervising producer Trevor Young. Executive producers on behalf of Tinderfoot TV include Donald Arbrite and Payne Lindsay with producers Jamie Arbrite and Tracy Kaplan. Executive producers on behalf of Black Bar Mitzvah
Starting point is 00:38:19 include myself Jay Ellis and Aaron Bergman with producer Sidney Fuz. Lead researcher is Jamie Arbrite, artwork by Mr. Soul 216, original music by Makeup and Vanity Set, special thanks to a team at UTA, Beck Media and Marketing and the Nord Group. Tinder for TV and iHeart Media as well as Black Bar Mitzvah have increased the reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of the person or persons responsible for their freeway phantom murders. The previous reward of up to $150,000 offered by the Metropolitan Police Department has been
Starting point is 00:38:55 matched. A new total reward of up to $300,000 is now being offered. If you have any information relating to these unsolved crimes, contact the Metropolitan Police Department at area code 202-727-9099. For more information, please visit freeway-phantom.com. For more podcasts from our radio and Tinder for TV, visit the IHR radio app, Apple Podcast, or ever listen to your favorite shows. Thanks for listening.
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