Games with Names - 16-0 with Sam Jay | Patriots vs. Giants

Episode Date: May 14, 2024

Sam Jay is in studio! We're reliving the record setting 2007, Week 17 game between the New England Patriots and the New York Giants. We also go behind the scenes on her killer set at The Roast of Tom Brady. Sam Jay joins us on the couch (3:16). We go back to December 2007 (22:33). We dive into these rosters (40:29). We get into this record setting game (46:50). We score it (58:04). We wrap it up by hitting the ol' hotline (1:08:53). Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Celtics. Football. Pats? Basketball. Celtics. Football. Pats. Baseball. Sox. Hockey. Hockey. It descends into whiteness.

It's like... Very much so. Very much so. She's incredible stand-up comic, former writer on SNL, and like a super big-time Boston sports fan. Comedian Sam Jay. I don't from a city where the white dudes either do meth or they work plumbing. You know what I mean?

We both just did the roast, the Tom Brady roast. It was wild. It was wild. It was wild. The athletes, we were all fucking nervous. You know, you're in the forum. There's 15,000 people. It's a live show on Netflix. don't do this shit yeah you guys are

used to this stuff girl spiking that glass and like there's gonna be a lot Olivia lawsuit I do who are your top five roasters of the night yeah we're gonna go over the 2007 week 17 Patriots vs. Giants game. This is when they went 16-0. This is when all the pressure was on the Patriots. At that time, there was nothing Tom Brady couldn't do. First of all, I don't think people get what it is to be a black Patriots fan. And I'm in Atlanta, of all places, where no one f***s with the Patriots.

Go to this party, everybody's a f***ing Giants fan. I'm by myself. We win. I jump up, stand in front of the Giants screen, and I'm like, f*** you, f*** you, f***. I'm like screaming. Games with Names is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman, and they are Jack and Kyler,

and we are on the search to find the greatest game of all time or the GOG, the greatest of all games. That's right, baby. On today's episode, we are talking week 17 of the 2007 season finale between the Patriots and the Giants. 16-0. 16-0. 16-0. A lot of records.

With, I can't talk right now. With comedian. It's all good. With comedian Sam Jay. She was incredible. Awesome. She's great. Awesome.

So funny. Knows her stuff. Great name. Ball buster. Definitely. Not afraid. No. To make you feel uncomfortable.

Hey. Yes. She knows when she's with some white people and she knows hey i'm gonna say something and let's see how they react yes i cleaned up i loved it i don't know if kyler did i like kyler i like turning red and shit you guys gotta watch you gotta watch that's crazy's bullshit. She's incredible stand-up comic, former writer on SNL. We did the roast together and like a super big-time Boston sports fan. It's cool to hear her perspective on being a Boston sports fan. We go into the Brady roast. Yeah, a little bit of reaction to that. She had crazy stories of 28-3 game and the 18-1 giant loss game. Repping New England down in Atlanta.

Amen. Behind enemy lines. And then we go down memory lane of the Patriots' perfect-ish season. And then we wrap it up by hitting the old hotline. We had some good, some crazy questions. You guys are bringing the heat. Yeah, that's some good stuff. Let's go.

Let's go. Oh, and before we get into it, how about that re-scoring extravaganza, guys? It was pretty good. It was good. It was great. The people loved it. Did they? Yeah.

Did they give us integrity comments? We got a lot. I think people are a lot i think people i think that's what we need we need to back on track if you think it's an integrity you throw an integrity in the comments it's integrity scores instead of w's that's like a matthew slater score integrity is in the integrity is in the chat integrity is in the chat if it's dog shit and completely embellished. Just call it a jack score. Hey. Hey now. Or we can go cubes.

Cubes. Cubes. Let's go. Let's go. December 29th, 2007. MetLife Stadium, East Rutherford, New Jersey. An underdog from California and a freak from West Virginia. On the verge of NFL immortality.

And oh yeah, a perfect regular season is on the line too. This is the Foreshadow Game. Welcome to Games With Names, Sam J. I'm so happy to be here. Are you? Yes. Are you lying? No.

Oh, I'm not Drew Bledsoe. She's happy to be here. So we had Drew on, and he goes, man, Sam J. hated me. I feel so bad because I ended up like really loving him i love him he's a sweetheart he's so cool to hang out with like he came to the store he drank with us it was so fun yeah he he really he's really got a good heart yeah like it was like i mean genuinely good energy it's tough to be in that situation absolutely now let's let's get into why we're here we're gonna go over the 2007 week 17 Patriots versus Giants game this is when they went 16-0

this is when all the pressure was on the Patriots to be the team that can they go undefeated why did you pick this game um because there was so much so much hope in the air you know it was so much hope in the air as a as a person from boston i just remember the energy around the team and like we're gonna and then i also thought about the deflation of not winning the super bowl uh the deflation that was two years that was three or four years later but uh yeah you know but it was so much hope it was so much hope yeah it was just a buzzing ass time now i wasn't part of this team but i remember watching this and as a guy i used to love tom brady because tom was always the underdog it was always supposed to be paint manning's league we

were both from the bay area he was never supposed to be the guy so i always could relate to him so i always was like rooting for the patriots low-key when they were in these runs i was feeling anxiety yeah every week because every team seemed to be playing them super hard is that how you guys felt that were fans or you guys just said we're gonna get this un like shakable belief in tom brady at that time there was nothing tom brady couldn't do it was like we have tom brady we're gonna win everything yeah we have tom brady only a matter of time yeah well there's nothing to think about. I mean, because at this point of his career, he had three Super Bowls. He had Gisele already. Yeah. So he was on cloud nine.

He's the motherfucking man. You almost said three supermodels. Yeah, more than three. I went into joke mode because I had a joke that was designed over that. Yeah, he's the man at that time. And we're like, at that time, the city're like at that time the city is like we're up buzzing we're up we're we're we're full of ego we're like who can take us down there's nothing man we'll jump into it let's let's start this off with we both just did the roast the tom brady

roast what'd you think of it it was wild it was wild it was wild from It was wild. It was wild. From the stage perspective, like, a lot was going on. Oh, yeah. A lot of energy. I loved watching. For me, it was a lot of completing the story. Yeah. You know, like, hearing Drew's perspective. You know what I mean?

Him making fun of Tom. Like, you used to come with that yellow truck. It's like, oh, shit. Okay, so that was that relationship. And hearing Gronk. I loved Gronk's part of the roast and him just being like, yeah, you know, he's trying to yell at me, but what I do, I count it. So it's like, oh, you guys had your own little tensions and like different stuff.

And hearing you guys kind of, you know, toss and throw to kind of that shit as a fan, it was like kind of having an insider's like view into it. Yeah. But then there was just like wild shit going on, like Gronk spiking that glass. Is there going to be a lawsuit? Dude, that's what I said. I was was me and drew were sitting on the couch i was like that lady got hit and she's pretty pissed off oh she was like pissed and i was like oh this isn't good so then it was just like someone got hit yeah i heard yeah you could actually see someone be all pissed by the way sam this is kyler and Jack. Sam, thanks for being here. I should have probably introduced them.

It's all good. My bad. Yeah, so it was a lot going on. It was big. For me, I thought it was such a cool perspective to, A, see professionals work in contrast to guys that the athletes were all fucking nervous. You know, we were all terrified. You know, you're in the forum. There's 15,000 people.

It's a live show on Netflix. We don't do this shit. You guys are used to this stuff. And to see how you guys were able to, I was reading teleprompters. I was watching the teleprompter the whole time. I probably wasn't supposed to be doing that. But how you guys would see on the teleprompter

what you were supposed to say, and sometimes you guys wouldn't even say anything that the teleprompter said. were supposed to say and sometimes you guys wouldn't even say anything that the teleprompter said you would deliver it in a different way and bring things from that what you heard recently yeah and then throw it in joke and go like it was really impressive to watch you guys work you landed all your plan i was impressed by you i was like hey he's like he's landing these planes like your timing was good i was trying trying. He's got the clutch gene. Clutch gene. No, no clutch gene. I tell you right now.

Hey, I'm blazing. So I was, I was, I was, I was pretty nervous for this thing when they asked me to do it. You know what I mean? Just for what I just explained, you know, this isn't what we do. And then Jeff, he was really cool with me in, in like, in a whole like mentor type role when we were doing our meetings and meeting with our joke makers and you know our team and their team and you know jeff invited me to go to the store so i went and did the store on thursday the thursday before oh yeah i did like 10 minutes there just to test jokes and like that's where i got to like have that experience

of what i said would get maybe a little like laugh, not laugh, but an introductory laugh or something. So you could time shit up. And I was more terrified when I went and did the store because it was so intimate. Then when I went to do the show, like after that, I had the rep. Yeah. And then I went to the show and I was like, oh, this way easier. Yeah. Not easier, but the story like this right there. You could feel it way easier. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not easier, but. The store, they're like this.

Right there. You could feel it. Yeah, if they ain't feeling it, you feel it. And also we had the people in front where you could look at the people you knew. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You had like some safety nets out there. Safety nets. Yeah, absolutely.

But I had a blast. No, it was the shit. Now take us through your lead up of the roast. When you got invited, how did you prepare? How did you write your jokes? How did you put together your fit? I was last. So I got, I got asked to last.

So I only had like five days or something like that. Yeah. I only had like five days or something like that. Five or six days. It was like a week or a week and a half. Yeah. And so once we were, I was like, yeah or a week and a half yeah and um so once we were i was like yeah let's do it i started just working on the jokes and um how do you work on the jokes well i just started

figured out who i wanted to talk about that was the first thing so you look at lineup yeah and then what you do you research lineup or do you go off of like your own knowledge of my own knowledge i'm just like they they were like, who? When I saw Drew was on it, I was like, for sure Drew. Drew! I was like, for sure Drew. She coming. For sure Drew.

And then, how to do Tom. And I knew the time. They were like, yo, it's live and it's a lot of people, so it's going to only be like four to six minutes, and six is like forcing it. So I was like, well, I'm not going to go comic to comic to comic, like old school world style. If I just don't have that much time, I'd rather just focus it.

So I was like, all right, Bert, Drew, once I locked that down, it was time to work on the jokes. My man Radio helped me just shop ideas, because I wanted mine to kind of feel more thematic than just like one-liners. So we were just trying to find those through lines that could kind of because I wanted mine to kind of feel like more thematic than just like one liner so we were just trying to find those like through lines I could kind of bridge everything um so it was me radio my girl Megan Gailey. Would you say thematic? Yeah. Like it's that goes by theme? Yeah. Not a word guys. I like that word though I'm gonna start using that. Yeah I wanted to have a little so it's me radio my home girl megan galley you know i kind of told him the different directions i wanted to go in and like how i wanted to do like the mediocre uh white

man with bird and i wanted to go this way with drew and then you know we just started trying to get those jokes to hit hard and land all those planes and i was just running it at the comedy cellar like every day up until i left cellarar. Yeah. Love the Cellar. Good vibes at the Cellar. It is good vibes at the Cellar. You know Sam Morrell? Yes. You know me and Sammy, he was on this podcast with us for our first season. Oh, really?

I love Sam. I love Sam. Shout out, Sam. We love him. Yeah, he's a big sports fan. Sam was in our writing process. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we had a tap-in session.

We ran shit by Sam. Oh, that's awesome. No, Sam, sometimes we go to watch basketball together. Yeah. Yeah. He was calling Bronson being Bronson three years ago. Bronson. Bronson.

Yeah. Bronson is the man right now. I think he deserves MVP. He's electric. He should get MVP. Is he MVP? I didn't watch the whole regular season. He got MVP numbers?

He's got MVP numbers. He's got 40 in the last three. Insane. Playing like Jordan. Yo, it's insane it's not i know for his size and also i just feel like he's having the most impact on a team in the league right now it's like you could say joking but he's not changed the team's the team oh yeah like brunson is changing the team and playing playing 48 minutes a night he's gonna run out

48 minutes i was gonna say i run out of gas i 48 minutes a night. I was going to say, is he going to run out of gas? I hope. As a Celtics fan, I hope so. I hope not. For his sake. As a Celtics fan. But for his sake. I actually just don't even want to see that. I don't either.

I don't want to. Thank you. That'll be scary. I don't even want to see the Knicks. And I live in New York. If we lose to the Knicks, I got to move. You know what I mean? I can't.

I can't be in New York in that energy. How is it being a Boston fan in New York? Tough. Tough. Tough. Tough. Because they love to see us lose. You know what I mean? Like, the way they celebrate when we don't win is, like, it's annoying.

You know what I mean? And, like, Michael Che is one of my closest friends. And, like, every time we've gone to a Knicks game together, I think the Celtics have lost. And he's put me through absolute hell. Sam, do you wear, do you rep the Celtics and Red Sox and Pats on the street? You wear the gear? Okay. I'm too scared.

Whenever I go to New York, I leave it at home. I'm a big plus. You know what is crazy? We're worse than them. You know what I mean? Like we, like they don't care because New York's like a big city. That's true. And like, you know what I mean? They really don't. We're like, you come to Boston and we go fucking crazy. Like, we are worse than they are.

They're pretty chill about it. That's because they've been irrelevant for about a decade in all of the sports. Ooh, they have. They haven't won a championship in the first time in like a 10-year period. But they don't, it's something so weird about New York. Like, even right now with the Knicks, I'm like, if the Knicks stopped right here, the city of New York would be electric it already is yeah like they'd be like that's great like they don't even need the thing you know what i mean like you know bostonians like we need the thing

the parade we need the and if you don't give us that it's like fuck you we hate you you stink we don't care how well you do bring bring home the shit. It's colder up north. Yeah. And we don't give a fuck. But New York, they're like, it was a good run. Yeah. But they're going to start. This is a team that will develop them into having more higher expectations. Yeah.

They'll become cold. Yeah. I mean, I think if they win this year, they're going to go. If they make it past Boston and they go, they're going to go crazy. Yeah. And they're going to be turned. And I think they will be more like about their shit. They better. But I don't think they'll ever be like Boston.

No. That shit's just like in the DNA of the city. Yeah. And it's a different city. There's more competition than just sport in New York. You're in the Mecca. You've got the whole fashion. They have everything going on yeah that all we have is sports sports and schools yeah and alcohol who are your top five roasters of the night yeah nikki tony i enjoy Gronk You

Yeah Drew Drew Hey I like that Drew had a good opening Yeah It was good It was good to open with him

Yeah No Andrew Schultz Schultz Sorry Drew I was trying to get you in there We'll give Bledsoe Audible mention though

Because he had a really good say He did He did there we'll give Bledsoe honorable mention though because he had a really good say he did honorable mention Drew Bledsoe I don't hate you I saw an interview where he said I was really mean and I hurt his feelings I felt really bad I mean that's a roast he's a nice guy

we all signed up for it I pretty much sucked Tom's dick after the roast according to the jokes. And every day before. And every day before. I mean, that's why I live in this house. Are there any jokes that you had to cut? No, I cut stuff like for time.

I was going to do a joke to Kim Kardashian. I was going to do an audible audible but i changed my mind which i'm kind of glad i did i felt bad because i felt i felt bad yeah after all that other shit i was like oh that would have just been kind of like beating up on her you know so i kind of was glad that i didn't do it but they didn't like tell me oh you can't use this or you can't use that or anything like that no when. When did you find out that Kim was going to be there? Because it was kind of a surprise to the audience when they listed her in the credits. I don't know.

When I walked into rehearsal and saw her. Yeah, that's when I saw her on Saturday. That's when I found out, yeah, when I walked in the rehearsal. I looked around. I was like, oh, he's going to be here? He's going to be here? Did you cut any jokes? I cut a let's go one.

Oh, yeah? It was something like, you know, we all know what Tom's favorite term is. Let's go. Let's go. I mean, he got it patented. He had a podcast named after it. It's also what his wife said when she left with the kids. Oh, see, you're good.

Look, you know how to do this, man. Let's go. Damn. I'm getting in the fucking car right now you're delivering the fuck out of that shit no we practice and i wanted to incorporate gronk in a joke it was a it was a gronk joke along paired with a belichick joke it was like uh you know everyone gives gronk a rap for being a dummy, a dum-dum. But he's actually a savant with numbers.

Watch. Gronk, what's 69 minus 37? 32. 32. That's right, Gronk. The same number of teams that rather lose than have a conversation with Coach Belichick. That's a combo. Combo.

Come on, dog. Two-piece combo. Come on, dog. Also, do you remember the other plastic surgeon joke? The football players take hits to the head. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Football players usually take hits. It's a brutal game.

Football players take a lot of shots to the head. Tom takes shots to the forehead, the crow's feet, the lips. That's good. You know, you didn't set the record in college, but you did set the record in college in. Who's laughing now, Tom? Not you because your face don't move. That's good.

So I stole the back part of that joke and put it on a different one. That's good. Y'all had some heat. These guys, we were working our nuts off. Y'all had some heat in the seat. That's what's up. I love just two stand-ups here kicking it and talking. No.

Don't put me in that category. Don't put me in that category. She writes the jokes. I'm in on the right of the jokes. What was your favorite nightclub in Boston? This is going to turn into an interview with you. What's up? Now, what era are we talking here?

Oh, okay. Like, the 10s? We used to go this place you ever splash back in the day splash was over a south street station it had like the pool on the deck yes yes yes to go there uh i mean we all went to a cure or something here here yes but then later they started developing seaport yeah you know and and so they had the grand which was like a vegas style club what was that under or something to be a white white man in boston who played superstar drowning in vagina dude drowning in pussy you had to be it's already like boston's already white atlanta and then you play football there yeah i mean you're going crazy we had a lot of fun I'm

happy for you that sounds fucking amazing what were your did you did you did you learn black Boston at all a little bit well like all right so what were you doing on that side actually I it wasn't I wouldn't hang out in black Boston If I was hanging out with like my blacker friends, we would go to Providence. Whoa. I'm just telling you. Fucking Providence. Providence.

Why? That's just where we all went. So you didn't have no like food spots from the black part of the city? No, no, none of that. There was a breakfast cafe in Jamaica Plain, but I don't think it was black. It was more hipstered.

Yeah, that's JP. I mean, the dots changed too. The dots has changed, yes. A lot. Yeah, but there's still... I didn't really know where to go. Because none of the black guys that were on the team were from Boston, so they didn't know black Boston.

That's disappointing. I'm going to have to take you to black Boston. You got to. Yeah, I got to take you around. What's the place you got to bring me to? Okay, we got to go to Simcoe's. Simcoe's. What's Simcoe's known for?

Hot dogs. Hot dogs. It's like a hot dog stand. So like hot dogs, like fried clams, like fried scallops, fried shrimp, that shit. You got to go to Silver Slipper for the breakfast. Get you a beef sausage sandwich with egg and cheese. Bong bong. You got to go to good Chinese.

It's only in the hood. Where? Anywhere, really. You can go to any bulletproof in the hood, get you some good Chinese food. It's hard to find good Chinese in Boston. Shut the fuck up. I'm a Bay Area kid, K. Shut the fuck up.

We have the best Chinese food. No. I ain't close. Where would you eat Chinese food at? I don't even know. Fuck out of here. We went to a couple places in, what is that one place in Chinatown?

Taiwan Cafe? No. There was that little place right by the common, P.F. Chang's, was it? Oh, shut the fuck up.

Wait, are you from, are you from Boston? Yeah, we all lived in Boston. We have great Chinese food. Man. Alright,

man. It ain't even New York Chinese. It's way better than New York. New York's got some good Chinese. You're fucking insane I don't know maybe we just have different taste buds

we gotta I gotta bring you to you one day we'll do this we're gonna do this well I'll show you Boston we will do a what is it

a black culture food tour yes yes yeah let's do it with a Chinese food sprinkled in well I gotta

yeah we gotta I gotta show you Boston show me Boston yeah Show me Boston. Yeah, you haven't been to the Caribbean Festival. You know, we have a little Caribbean festival. Where is that at? It happens up in Blue Hill Island.

You got to go to the hood. I got to. Yeah, you missed out. I did. So you didn't fuck no black girls in the city. A lot of Cape Verdeans. There's a lot of Cape Verdeans. All right, on dogs, I got to give you that.

All right, all right, all right. Hey. Come on now. Everybody comes to the city and discovers Cape Verdean women. They're like, what is that? Never heard of it. They're like, Cape Verdean. They're like, what is that?

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The number one movie was National Treasure, Book of Secrets. Did you see that? Yes, I like National Treasure. I like them too. I always liked the Treasure Hunt movie. They're good. It's good. It's fun.

It's light. It's youthful, but you still get to be grown. Yeah. You know, it was kind of Nick Cage when he was still in Victory Lane. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was still the guy. Now he does all these crazy movies. What's your favorite Nicolas Cage movie?

The Rock. The Rock is the shit, bro. Bay Area, San Fran, I love it. The Rock is the shit. The Rock. Then they had the little green ball shit. They had to like. Yeah, they were like.

I'm a face-off person myself. Face-off. Yeah. Loved face-off person face-off yeah love face-off face-off face-off was my shit cage and it was that weird jail we in the rock they had those boots yes because it was futuristic or he was real like super max yeah con air con air we love con air con air was very good con air is the shit and gone in 60 seconds fuck that i have eleanor you do i'll show you later oh shit that's exciting i got eleanor because you're like you like a lot of like memorabilia and shit vintage yeah i like a lot of old toys yeah i mean if you get new stuff there's a new one next month yeah yeah but you get something from back in the day. Also, when you have an old car and you drive like manual, you just feel the car.

You know, I got the Tesla and you do that. You just don't feel. You have to pay attention in an old car. What's your favorite car that you have? Probably my 68 Mustang. That's what's up. I like old cars. Yeah.

I want a Nissan NSX, like the old one. Like a 92? Yeah, with the NSX and the brake light. Oh, yeah. And then like the little. I literally, this is a simulation. I saw it today on an Instagram feed of something. It was badass.

It was a 92. Yeah. That's why I brought the number. Yeah, I want one of those. What? And I want a DeLorean. Yo. Doc?

I want a DeLorean for sure. Squirrel discovered time travel. At least when I looked it up maybe four years ago, there's a guy somewhere in Florida who bought all the old parts. They're not expensive. They're not expensive. He bought all the parts with the factory clothes, and he'll build you a new one.

I've seen that. Yeah. I've seen that on the internet. I had a friend who had one, and they lived in a farm. It was just like in the shed. I was like, yeah, you want it for $12,000. Yeah. I've seen that on the internet. I had a friend who had one and they lived in a farm and it was just like in the shit. Yeah, you want it for $12,000. Yeah, right. That's literally the plot of the movie.

Number two. It was in the farm. Justin Werdus. Hell yeah. And I want a car. I want to trick out a car like Transformers style. So this is my idea, right?

I want to get like a, like a badass, like Charger or Hellcat, right? Paint it like a Decepticon one like i want decepticon got the decepticon emblem in the joint in the middle bow septicon shit on the seat wow i don't know what color maybe red and black right but i want the two front doors to like suicide i want the back doors to lambo and when you hit it it goes, it makes the noise and all the doors open. That's going to be so expensive. Just because it won't be expensive for the car,

but putting in all that electronic. Yeah, but that'd be fire. It would be hella fire. Right? And they make the noise, and then the doors all do it together. And then I get in and I just hit a button. That's what like Tesla's do now.

It's fire. Tesla's. My daughter loves the Tesla because it does the dance thing. And if I can beeps and shit, you can make doors open. That's cool. But what was life like for you back in 2007, 2008? This was pre this. Were you still in the music industry being.

2007. In the office job. I am. I'm in Atlanta music industry being? 2007. In the office job? I am. I'm in Atlanta. I'm in Atlanta. I went to go to school, but I'm not going to school. I'm just like drinking and hanging out. Wait, so Atlanta is black Boston?

Yeah. Because you said Boston. Yeah. So Atlanta, I'm partying. You know what I mean? So be parties. I'm teetering the line I think

I'm putting Dick down but I'm not done with Dick but I'm like I don't think this is my game you know what I mean and I think I need to go into something else so I'm kind of over there

now is it because you're not attracted to the D or is it because what the D brings you know these guys are idiots you know I wasn't I just really wasn't into it.

Like, I had a boyfriend for a long time. Yeah. And we met young, you know, so I thought that I liked penis. And then we got trauma bonded. Like, my mom died, and he was my best friend and my boyfriend, so there was a trauma bond there. So I did love him, you know what I mean? Yeah.

But once we broke up and I just got in the world and I was trying other Ds, I was like, I don't like this. And then I thought, oh, maybe I'm like one of those girls who likes to be in love and that's the only way I like it. But it was just that I just didn't like it. Yeah. Because I can fuck a stranger when it's a woman. It doesn't really matter because I'm actually attracted to women in that way.

Yeah. And there's not into dudes that way. I see it physically. I get it. Dick doesn't scare me, but it just never did the thing. And I think as a... I know. There's some gold star lesbians who have never been with a dude, and I kind of look down on them a little bit because I'm like, bitch, you don't really... I know for sure.

You not sure. You might get tapped and be like, I'm totally into this. I did i did it i did it for real and it's just not my bag note to self note to self in the sports world in 2007 college football national champs lsu this is when lsu was this uh who was the head coach was this stevenley? I think this was What's his name? Les Miles Les Miles, yeah Les Miles

Yeah, because Saban was before this Heisman Trophy winner Tim Tebow We make a lot of Tim Tebow jokes In this pod Tebow Super Bowl champions Were the New York Giants

That was the first one, right? No, this is the first one No, that's the first time Yes Yeah, and then the other one was 11, that's the first time. Yes. When they beat us. Yeah, and then the other one was 11. I was there. Still too soon.

I was there. That shit was, oh my God. We actually did that game with. I was in Atlanta. I go to this party. First of all, I don't think people get what it is to be a black Patriots fan. Once you are outside of Boston. Break that down for like.

Everybody looks at you like a coon. They're literally like, what are you, some type of Uncle Tom? How could you love this white-ass team that represents everything white and oppressive? That is America. They're fucking even called the fucking Patriots. They're from white-ass Boston.

What is wrong with you? The whole black people, this is not the team for you. Literally think you should pick another team. So you gotta be tough to be a black Patriots fan. You have to be very tough and resilient because no one wants you to be great.

Yeah. And I'm in Atlanta, of all places, where no one fucks with the Patriots. You know what I mean? Black Bostons. Yes. Boom. Go to this party. Everybody's a fucking Giants fan. I'm by myself. There's no Patriots fans

at this party. Everyone's a Giants fan. Everyone wants a Giants fan. Even if they're not a Giants fan and they're from Atlanta, the Falcons suck. So they're like, you know what I mean?

We're jumping on this train. That's the train everybody's riding. I'm alone and just getting berated. Like truly almost gonna cry. Cause I'm like, how is this happening? Also, I think you attach a lot of your own identity to your teams. So when your teams are losing, you're like, my life's going to be over. I'm not going to have anything good.

I'm cursed with the team. This is all just spiraling out of control. And the celebration that was going on around me, oh, my God. It was a bad day. That was a bad day. Yeah, that was terrible. I called one of my good friends that was home. And I was like, what the fuck?

I'm talking to him. And I'm in this house with giant fans. And she said, why would you even go in there? She said, why did you go in there? I was like, I had nowhere else to go. There was nowhere to go that was Patriot friendly.

You know what I mean? Yeah. The amount of like chirp texts from non-Giants fans, I remember getting out of that like, oh, still traumatic. So happy when we lose. People are like so happy. It's like,

bro, you're not even a Giants fan, you're just chirping me to chirp me. Come on now. So happy when we lose. People are, like, so happy. It's like, bro, you're not even a Giants fan. You're just chirping me to chirp me. Come on now. So happy. I hate those kind of fans. This same year, the Celtics won their 17th championship. Summer in 08.

They won over the Lakers? Yes. I remember that, too. I was at ESPN Zone in Atlanta. Oh, man. We were watching on a big screen. Remember, they used to have that really giant screen. ESPN Zones were the best back then.

They were the shit. I'm so mad they're not around anymore. at the giant screen all lakers fans of course again no one likes anything boston no one no one likes anything boston and but you usually can find a transplant in a certain area yeah but not black people because they really associate everything boston with white whiteness you know what i mean i do do get it. Celtics, Larry Bird. So everyone is totally Lakers, right? We're in Atlanta. We win. I jump up.

Yes. Stand in front of the giant screen. Yes. And I'm like, fuck you. Fuck you. I'm like screaming. Let them know. Screaming.

Screaming. And I needed that. I needed that that year. Anything is possible. KG, baby. I needed that. That was a big that was a big year socks win the world series yeah but you guys are you guys are pretty much in the sink of winning with the socks now what's your hierarchy of boston sports basketball celtics football

pats baseball socks hockey hockey i i i ascend, it descends into whiteness. It's like. Very much so. Very much so. So where did the revolution stand? Honorable mention like Drew. Were you in Atlanta for the 28-3 Super Bowl? I was, and I have a story for that, yes. No, I wasn't in Atlanta, I was-3 Super Bowl? Y'allarayne and I'm feeling good, you know? Shit is kind of moving. I'm feeling good.

And I would do these Super Bowl parties, like, I mean, football every Sunday. It was at my house. All the little homies, we'd do comedy together. They would all come over. My girl would make wings. We'd watch football. So Super Bowl.

What kind of wings, though? Lemon pepper. We would do lemon pepper hot. And then she would do something all brand. It would be like garlic parmesan or jerk. There would always be, like, a little flake, right? What about, like, sauce? We got dip sauce?

We got some ranch. Ranch. We got some blue cheese. Like, are you blue cheese ranch? It depends on what I'm on that day. I'm the same. Buffalo, I like blue cheese. I'm traditional.

But sometimes I'll do ranch. But lemon pepper, I usually go ranch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. My bad. So, nah, nah. These are important questions. I love chicken wings. So, the Super Bowl is about to happen. Mommy's like, yo, are you doing a party? My bad. These are important questions. I love chicken wings.

The Super Bowl is about to happen. Mommy's like, yo, are you doing a party? I had that experience. You're traumatized. I'm traumatized. I go, no. I don't want to watch the game with people who aren't Patriots fans. I know you guys aren't Patriots fans.

I'm not having a fucking party. I'm going to just watch the game in my house. Me and my lady. She was also from Massachusetts. My ex-wife. I'm going to just watch a game in my house. Me and my lady, because she was also from Massachusetts, my ex-wife. I'm going to watch some shit at my house. That's it. I'm not, we're not doing that. He's like, you're being a fucking sucker. You know we come every week.

Now you're not going to have me. Wait, where are we supposed to watch a game, bro? And like, I'm the only one who's like settled in my first two. Like I have a girl at the top. I have like a home where there's going to be food cookies. Like, you know, we're all living like fucking savages. Like your house is the house. And I'm like, I'm not doing it.

He breaks me, I do it. So now everybody's in my house and we are getting beat. Bad. Bad. Bad. And it's like for a Bostonian, you feel like the curse is coming back. Literally, I'm like, oh feel like the curse is coming back. Literally, I'm like, oh, shit.

The curse is coming back, because this is unraveling in a way that is fucking insane. Like, we're playing in a way that doesn't make sense to me. Like, plays are happening, and it's fucking Atlanta. And I'm like, what the fuck is happening? So now I'm equating this to my career, right? I'm like, oh, everything's about to crumble around me. Like a true Boston fan. Oh, my God. True Boston fan. Yeah, I'm like, oh, everything's about to crumble around me. Like a true Boston fan.

Oh my God. True Boston fan. Yeah, I'm a cursed Bostonian. Once again, nothing good is going to happen to me this year. Everything I wanted this year is fucking down the toilet. This is fucking crazy. And these motherfuckers are celebrating. Like they're having the time of their life. They're passing around memes. They're fucking laughing. And they're all in my house eating my food. And I'm just like, I want to fucking I'm quiet. They're like standing in my

face. And I'm just eating this shit, right? Did you give up on us? My friend, I gave up. I'm not going to lie. I gave up. My friend Jack, God rest his soul, he comes in a Randy Moss jersey. Every time Atlanta scores, he's taking this jersey off,

throwing it on the floor and stepping on it. Because we're comics too. So people are being fucking ridiculous, right? I am seething. I want to fucking cry. I'm losing hope. I'm like, it can't happen.

My ex-wife goes, we have Tom. She's like, just believe. And I'm like, I don't know, man. I don't know. I'm literally like watching in the comeback starting. And now I'm like,

I'm just quiet. I'm not saying anything. I'm just like hands in prayer. Don't want to jinx it. Don't want to jinx it. But I'm like, okay, complete a pass.

I'm like, let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. they're getting quieter the house is getting quieter i don't i'm just like yo yo i never erupt we win but did you give body movement were you getting the body movement so they knew you were about you were t kettling and now now i'm watching tom tom so you know you know when you see brady go brady i'm like

my nigga's in it let's fucking go you know what i'm when you see Brady go Brady. I'm like, my nigga's in it. Let's fucking go. You know what I'm saying? Like, he's about to do these niggas. So I'm like, mm-hmm, mm-hmm, mm-hmm. We win. I jump up. I scream, I'm gonna get everything I fucking want this year.

This is my year. This is my fucking year. And then I looked at my friend Jack. I said, now put on your fucking jersey and get the fuck out of my house, bitch. I threw him out of my fucking house. And it was the best day of my fucking life. And that year, I got JFL. I got, that was my motherfucking year. So you got everything.

I got everything I wanted. It was because of Tom Brady. It was because of Tom. Gotta believe. You gotta believe. Because of Tom Brady. It was because of Tom. Gotta believe. Yeah. You gotta believe. Because of Tom Brady. When did you know that we had it?

That first touchdown in the third. James White, I believe, or was it Danny? I was like, we're good. Yeah. We're good. We're about to snatch the heart out of these boys. For me, I was still doing math. Yeah. I was like, all right, that's cute. Yeah. We're still down 21 points. Yeah. We're about to snatch the heart out of these boys. For me, I was still doing math. Yeah.

I was like, all right, that's cute. Yeah. We're still down 21 points. Yeah. Or 18 or whatever. I can't do math. I was like, Tommy ain't going to lose. Nah, it wasn't until the defense.

I saw that when they started pissing down their leg. Yeah. The offense, Atlanta's offense, and then Trey Flowers had a big sack. They had a hold in, and Dante fucking had the strip sack. And I'm sitting there like, oh, this shit's about to happen. Yeah, that was James White in the third. Yeah. When we got that, I was like, now it's just pick apart time.

Because I'm like, okay, he's figured it out. Yeah. He's figured it out. And now he's just going to methodically pick them apart. And Tom can do that shit so fast once he can move the ball once he figures out how to move it we're eating you up we're gonna eat you up

dink and dunk death by a thousand cuts bro that's what I mean how did that catch you had though crazy yeah it was a bad route it was Jackie break it down for the new york let's run through these are giants you missed the venetaria years though yeah but i heard a lot about venetaria

because the first time i met matt castle we'll keep this quick uh he did a drawing as you remember vinny testiverdi it's like yeah why matt castle we're throwing at a Manhattan Beach fucking field. And he gets a piece of paper. He takes it from one of the coaches we're working with. And he has three drawings of three guys. And you have one guy with a baby dick that's Castle. And he had a regular-sized dick was Tom. And then he drew a dick off the fucking page for Vinny.

And he goes, he had the biggest dick. Like, you could have just told me that. You didn't have to draw a picture. Like a fucking kid. First time I ever met Castle. He starts talking about me and he tests the word he did. I feel like he did it because he was like, I don't know how to say this and not feel gay. But then he did the gayer thing because he drew.

That means he's thinking about it. Gotta show it. Show it, don't tell. I miss Vinny. Oh, my God. Let's run through these Giants real quick to set the stage. This is the 10-6 Giants year coming off a classic, one of those 8-8 Giants seasons before this.

Fourth year of the Tom Coughlin era. He was on the hot seat this year, kind of like he was every year, it seemed like. Every year. Every year. They still go in the playoffs and do Giants in the playoffs thing. the first year the post tiki era tiki went on to nbc and he caught a little flack for throwing some shade at uh coughlin and eli after he joined the media um they were this was spags as a new dc we know what spags is doing with kansas city now

spagnola he's mr defensive coordinator Defensive Coordinator Extraordinaire now. Stray. Stray Hand held out all training camp but came back and played. We all know he's Mr. TV now too. And then in week 8 they played at Wembley over in London. This was the first year of the European-England series. We played in London one year. It was pretty cool. Just because we're such a domestic sport.

Do they really enjoy it? They like it? They go crazy? It's pretty big. The shit's sold out. The crazy thing is the biggest cheers you'll get is during, like, a field goal or a kickoff. Like, any time the ball's being kicked. They kick it. They like it. Cool. But I think it's catching waves.

That's funny. And then we got to give a little love to some of these Giants dudes. This was Eli Plaxico, Amani Toomer. Plaxico. Plaxico. We all remember Plax. David Tyree. Antonio Pierce, now the coach of the Raiders.

OCU Manure was the lone pro bowler this year. Amani Toomer. Amani Toomer. I just like Amani. The damn Mannings. The damn Mannings. And then the record-breaking New England Patriots. They were coming off a 12-4 year.

That was a year that we blew that big lead to the Colts in the AFC Championship game. Jesus. Win the AFC East for the sixth time in seven years. This was the glory years. We're rolling. Brought in Welker, Moss, and Dante Stallworth in the offseason to really bolster that wide receiver room.

This was also the Spygate season, unfortunately. Yes. So Tom's playing angry. Well, they're always hating on us. Because they're always hating on us, bro. Hating that shit. Looking for something. Always looking for something.

Come on, bro. They hate us because they hate us. Y'all know everybody up there looking. Everyone. You know everybody's up there looking. Oh, yeah. 100%. Bill's little dude boy.

Eric Mangini. Don't make this a whole. Keep it G, my nigga. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, but what is Mangini thinking? I know. Yeah. Like, that was, Mangini was like, Bill was his daddy.

Hot blocking. Literally. Literally. That's some mob shit. That's why he hasn't been a coach since, really. Hot blocking, bro. Blackball him. And then Billy O was brought onto the staff as an offensive assistant.

Fucking Billy O. We love Billy O over here, baby. Most points in a season by an offense, 589 points. And the defense was a top 10 defense too. Give some love to these guys. I mean, these are pillars of the Patriots foundation here. R.I.P. Junior. R.I.P. Junior.

That was my guy. Kevin Fogg, Lawrence Maroney, Randy. Seymour, Hall of Famer. Troy. Will Fork.i.p junior kevin fogg lawrence maroney randy seymour hall of famer troy will fork oh big ben watson ty warren yo man when i was a rookie will fork tante samuel will fork had like i rolled up to the players lot i'm in like lincoln i'm seven round drive picky so that was like a highlight of your day when you're a young player that's barely going to make the team. You just get to see all the cool guy cars. Yeah.

You see the Mercedes. At that time, the LS460, a Lexus was hot. Everyone had the Lexus. Randy had one. Tom had one. Mr. Craft had one. Wilfork rolls up in a goddamn semi-truck. He had a semi-truck with no trailer.

That's what he used to drive. Half of Optimus Prime. Fool! It was like the most shooting fucking car for him. He'd get out. He'd be in overalls with no shirt. He'd be 30 degrees. He was so cool.

You know, he's nice on the smoker, too. Oh, he can cook his balls off. Hit you with a good brisket? So I've heard. Ribs. He makes unbelievable cool. You know, he's nice on the smoker, too. He can cook his balls off. Hit you with a good brisket? So I've heard. Ribs. He makes unbelievable ribs. We got to go down and visit him in Texas. I assume he's Texas, right?

I think. I don't know where he lives right now. Either way, we got to get big Vince on here. We got to. That'd be so sick. Who's your Patriots Mount Rushmore? Harrison. Nice.

Rodney. Yeah, I like him. He's mean. I like that he was mean. That's why I like Rodney. I like him He's mean I like that he was mean That's why I like Rodney Cause he I remember when he was like I'll take the fine

Did you talk to him at the roast? Yeah I remember he was like I'll take the fine I'm out there Head hunting motherfuckers Need that kind of guy He said he put money aside

Every year for the fine That's so badass So badass He was legendary I like him He was legendary In practice Yeah Okay So badass. He was legendary. I like him. He was legendary in practice. Yeah.

Okay. Tom, of course. Vinitary, man. Clutch. Vinitary. Vinitary. Because there's nothing, like, at that, the Vinitary era, there was something about knowing that if we got to 50,

like, that's how, we used to play the fuck out of motherfuckers. Like, we don't even need, we'll get to the 50 and kick it on your bitch ass. We good. We good. And he could do it. And he could do it. Any condition.

Full rain, sleet, snow. And my man's getting it done. You're getting beat by a kicker, which is disrespectful. He's going to be a whole team kicker. I'm going to disrespect you Hall of Fame kicker.

Disrespect you like that. So I got for Vinatario and then McGinnis. Willie Mack. He was there the other night too, right? That's Willie for sure. Was it cool to see all those guys in one room and dap them up as a fan? I can't even imagine. Every pick, I was

sending it immediately to my brother. That's so sick. Yeah. Willie Mack was a man. There's a locker in the locker room that's known as Willie's Locker, still to this day. That's so sick. That's where they put always the buck of the,

like if you're the big, like the top buck of the defense guy that is the leader, they sit in Willie's Locker. And I would say Welka because he was the first white boy. There's only four on the Mount Rushmore, so that's an honorable mention. Oh, okay. All right. And Julian like, fuck that. I'm saying that he was the you before you.

He was the first white boy I fell in love with like that. But Troy Brown was him before him. I like Troy Brown too. We love Troy. It's hard to pick then. I can't pick. You already Brown too. We love Troy. It's hard to pick then. You already got four? We're good. It's a good problem to have.

That means we got a lot of great guys. Yeah. Should we run through this lead up and hit the game real quick? Hit the game. The lead up, the biggest story, of course, was going 16-0. We enter 15-0. They enter 10-5. Both teams have made the playoffs.

So the other big story was, is there even any point playing anybody? But we got perfection on the line. You got to play them. Bill made the playoffs. So the other big story was, is there even any point playing anybody? But we got perfection on the line. You got to play them. Bill made the right call. This was also the first NFL game to be broadcast on three networks since Super Bowl I. Wow.

Because there was that much hype around it. And a lot of people didn't have it. I wonder how they broke that. Yeah, they had like John Kerry had to lobby like antitrust shit. Like legit, I was reading about this. Yeah. Like, because he was like

people need to see this game but not everyone had nfl network the priorities of america are so fucked up we are fucking sick wait no no no we gotta see tom ready to go for perfection yeah it's fucking true this is on nfl network nb, and CBS. It was a six-hour pregame show. Like, they were building this thing up like you would have thought it was a Super Bowl. Humble pie. And, of course, we had the bye and the home field advantage. And the other record besides 16-0, Tom to break most touchdown passes in a season, Randy to break most receiving touchdowns in a season.

Each one needed two. So that was the other big one coming into it. And we get into this game. It's a shootout, 38-35, back and forth. The game starts out with a bomb to Plaxico. 52-yarder, we're like, oh, shit. They're playing too. They're trying to spoil something here.

And I hate when – I hate – I fucking hate Eli Manning. I fucking hate – Go off. Go off. I fucking hate. Go off. I don't, because, okay, like, on paper, he's the most inept of the family, right? Right? Nah. Not like, I'm not saying stat-wise. I'm just saying how they made it look.

It's like, there's Peyton, there's Great Daddy. He's like, bring on Eli. Eli. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But he's not bad at football. No. That's not what I'm saying. He's like, bring on Eli. Eli. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. But he's not bad at football. No. That's not what I'm saying. He's not bad at football.

Yeah. But just like the presentation. Yes. Like we dealing with, you know. This guy. Yeah. This guy? This guy.

That's how it always felt. Like this motherfucker is doing this to us. If you're like a mouth breather with a punchable face. Bro. And you're beating us. You get what I'm saying? I'm like, bro. He got the most squishy face. You need the face one and it kills me he's doing it to us i know

like getting beat by lenny from mice and men and some shit shit suck oh my god fucking eli but the pats thankfully respond in this one. Get up 10, seven Moss gets a TD in the second quarter. They were down 12 points. Yes. And then we,

I mean, then the giants respond housing a kickoff 74 yards. Then Steve-O bangs in a couple of field goals. We get up 16, 14. They take the lead. Kevin boss. I do balled out this game.

Random, random old tight end reference here 21-16 Plaxico scores a TD early in the third we're down 12 points here in the third quarter like oh fuck like we're going 15 and one in this thing but thankfully Lawrence Maroney gets back uh cuts it to 28-23 then Randy uh the big moment here in the pivotal sort of turning point was in the fourth quarter when randy breaks the record with a big 65 yarder tom breaks the record by throwing the pass we get up go for 230 to 28 that was it once we had broken the record like the monkey was off our back the giants were dying

we had it uh ls hobbs picks off eli we punch in another t. They cut it 38-35. Onside kick at the end. Vrabel on the hand seam. Love that. Recovers it. We win 38-35. Get out of there with perfection. Man, you know where you were when you watched this game? Do you remember that?

Was this a big game for you? It was a big game. I was in Atlanta. And I was at my brother's. I went to my brother's so we could watch it together. I think if I remember correctly, I was watching it at my brother's house. But it was a big game. It was a big game.

It was a huge game. Because, like I said, it was setting the tone for what we knew was a Super Bowl win. That turned out to not be. Which is why now I do not trust any time Boston anything goes undefeated this season. I'm with you. It's bad luck. The President's Cup. It's bad luck.

It's almost like get the loss out of the way when it doesn't really matter. When the Celtics just went, bad luck. I know. I had a bad feeling. I'm with you. Because I'm like, that just doesn't work out for us. It's bound to end at some point. I don't want it to end when it matters most.

Yeah, and then when Tatum came in with anything, when he had that, I said, we're going to lose. Every time he, Tatum, pulled an antic, that's why I'm like, if he pull one of these, I love you, Tate. I love you, bro. I love you, DT. We had a conversation, but I'm telling you right now, if you pull one of these

little antics in this run, because last time when he text Kobe, fucked us. He came in with the goddamn Possible shirt, fucked us. Just play, bro.

Don't do nothing. We know you love Kobe. We know you love Kobe. We love him too. I love you, but don't do it. We know you love Cubby. We know you love Cubby. We love him too. I love you, but don't do it. If he pulls a move, you know where we at. Amen. Damn bad.

We had the Larry O'Brien trophy in here the other day. The NBA trophy. I didn't even want to touch it. I was so sure. I was like, it might be bad luck for JT if I touch this thing. You know what? I was all over that thing. We were all over that one, man.

Bro, we got to win it this year. Come on, guys. How crazy was that connection, TB and Moss? That had to be fun as a fan. See that? I was a sports fan. I was like, man, these dudes are just lighting it up. I'm telling you, first of all, just Randy Moss coming to Boston,

like, any time, as a black person from Boston, any time, like, a real nigga comes, we're excited. Yeah. Because it's like, they don't bring nobody black to us. They don't let us have that. And if they do, it's like,

it is not like one of them. You know what I'm saying? It's like, they giving us like. This is primo. Yo, yo. So we at,

just Randy Moss gonna be in Boston. There's a jersey we can finally buy and feel good. At 81. And throw on our bags and like yo let's go and then the way they were playing come on man should we bang through this aftermath real quick and yeah let's see what we got in the aftermath randy sets the record 23 for most receiving touchdowns in a season ends up at 23 tom we're going to set the record for most passing touchdowns in a season. Ends up at 50. Peyton Manning has since

broken that record. He put up 55. The Patriots would finish the season 16-0. First team to go undefeated since the 72 Dolphins. The Giants would make the playoffs at 10-6. Yeah, we know how that ended at the 18-1 Super Bowl.

The David Tyree helmet catch. Bullshit I don't even want to talk about it First It never It should be called a dead What? Weren't they supposed to call it dead?

Yeah because there was a holding penalty And Eli was in the grasp Bro Gum Double bubble on the side of the See what I'm saying? Mike Smith shit Like we can

Like come on bro And for our new friends Listeners out there We did this episode Episode 1 with Eli and Teddy Maruski Give it a listen on the side of us. See what I'm saying? Mike Smith shit. Like, come on, bro. And for our new friends, listeners out there, we did this episode, episode one with Eli and Teddy Maruski. Give it a listen. That's how we started

this whole stinking podcast. Yeah. So Eli? Yeah, when we were filming back in New York on Canal Street. Oh, that's so fucking cool. Yeah, both of them.

It was the first time. And they was doing all that shit too because they was always doing this thing like the whole Manning family versus Tom Brady. Oh, yeah. So that's what used to piss me off too because anytime the whole Manning family versus Tom Brady. Oh, yeah.

So that's what used to piss me off too because anytime the whole shit would come up, they'd bring up the daddy. Like, fuck the daddy. I don't give a fuck about the dad. What the fuck does he even have to do with the legacy of the man and the daddy man?

Fuck y'all, man. Some say that the Mannings are, you know, hierarchy family that runs the NFL. Oh, it's like some... Some mob shit. Some little Illuminati type shit. 100% people say that.

Oh, see? I believe that. I do too. That makes sense for a lot of things that was happening. 18-1 giant loss. Jack, we miss anything? We were pretty clean this episode.

There were tons of records from this game. We'll get into it later. I won't bore you with them here. It's also the President's Trophy, not the President's Cup, Kyler, with the hockey correction. And I got one last. They always give a trophy to the team in hockey. I'm not a hockey guy really that much either, but they give for regular season.

If you get the best record, they give you a trophy called the President's Trophy or something. And that person always ends up losing. Really? Always. Like bad luck. They never win. But to put a bow on this thing and to hopefully give us a little hope for the future,

as a real deal Pats fan, Sam, you got any words of hope for the next era, the Mayo era, the Drake May era? What do you think? This is what I think. Boston as a city, Patriots as a franchise, y'all got to stop being racist and bring in some black receivers. Just bring in some motherfuckers. It might not be your flavor.

You might feel like it's too rambunctious, so it's not this, so it's not that. But there's a lot of black people in the city, so there's a place for them to go and hang out. You're going to start having to put some color on these teams unabashedly if we're going to get the job done. How many white receivers do we have right now? I don't think any.

I don't really. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. So we're good. Stay that way. Getting there. Stay that way. Before we move on, can I ask you a question?

So during the roast, during one of your jokes when you're ripping into Burt, did you see what he pulled out? Yes. That got cut from, I was watching it, it got cut.

Yeah, it got cut. I think it was Zins. You think it was Zins? It was Zins. It was Zins. Oh, Burt. So yeah, we already doing that because I haven't been watching i'm not gonna lie

tom left my heart broke and like we mean tom left oh when the patriot the patriots yeah so i'm sad i'll be like straight up i have not been watching this whole mac jones i have not i don't watch you didn't miss much i don don't watch football. So I definitely would not know because that's how sad I was. How about Cam Newton for the year? I was very sad. Tom should have retired a Patriot, man. That was just not right. It just wasn't right and I didn't want to watch no more.

I was like, I don't even care. And then go to Tampa and win. Broke my Tampa. Tampa? For a while I was mad at Tom. You just want to hurt our feelings. Why Tampa? Tampa gross, the gross. Tampa? For a while, I was mad at Tom. Like, you just want to hurt our feelings. Same. Why, Tampa?

Tampa. Ugh. So I haven't picked up, I haven't watched football in a long time. So we are doing that. That's good. Just keep doing that. I'm with you. I'm with you.

I just went to Tampa for, like, the second time. Nice airport. Nice. You ever see, you got to watch this interview. It's Aretha Franklin, and they're asking her about all the singers of today, what she thinks about them. Like, who do you, what do you think about? She'll be like, Ariana Grande.

Nice gowns. That's what you just did to Tampa. Nice gowns. That's what you just did to Tampa. Nice gowns. We'll be right back after this quick break. All right, here we go. It's Cam Jordan from the New Orleans Saints here to tell you it's going down on season two of my podcast, Off the Edge with me, Cam Jordan. Can't stop it.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Let's name this game. What do we name this game? The 16-0 game? 23-50 game because of the two records that were beaten with Ross and Brady? Or the foreshadow game? You know where I'm going. Foreshadow game.

The foreshadow game. The foresh I'm going. Foreshadow game. The foreshadow game. The foreshadow game. Let's score the game. Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it. Stakes, 1-10. Decimal's okay. The stakes of this regular season game to go undefeated.

That hadn't been done since 72. I mean, you got to put a 9. That's an integrity score. I went nine on the line. Went nine one. Star power. Lots of stars. Ten.

Tom, Randy. Another team. Phil. Oh, and Eli. Yeah. Pierce. Flax. Yeah.

Flax. Gameplay. Shootout back and forth. Down 12 points come back 38 10 23 games a 10 9.9 you think that's

8 If we compare it to 8 The name of the game the foreshadow game 1 to 10 decimals okay Sam J 7 8-5-8-3 One to ten decimals, okay. Sam J. Seven. Seven. Eight, five, eight, three.

That's an integrity score right there. That's an integrity score. We love it. Ten on star power is a little tough. Same. Yep, 8.19, 8.19. Sometimes I like to calculate, like, celebrities at the game. This wasn't a super boring thing.

We didn't see a J-Lo titty or nothing. No. You know what I mean? So, like, star. No titty out. Where does this stack up, Jack? This puts us right ahead of the 2011 NBA Finals. Game 6, Mavericks Heat, which we did with Mark Cuban. And right behind the wide right,

Super Bowl 25 Bills vs. Giants, which we did with Tom Papa. Pretty good company there. Right on. Sam, we miss anything about this? No. You got something to plug? What are we doing right now?

I'm on tour right now. What's the name of the tour? Where can we find where the tickets are? The name of the tour is Niggio. Neo Niggio, which is a play on Akira in Neo Tokyo. Heck yeah. And yeah, it's called Neo Niggio

because I like anime and I'm going everywhere, dude. I'm all over this great country of ours. All that's on my like Instagram at CMJ Comic. I say MJ, Y Comic.

Twitter is the same so you can find out where I'm at and you know, just staying busy. Any LA tour? Any LA dates? I'm going to come here. I want to come at. And, you know, just staying busy. Any L.A. tour? Any L.A. dates? I'm going to come here. I want to come see.

I get you. You already know. You're more than invited. Thank you. Absolutely. Shout out to Sam Jay. That was an awesome episode. And check out her special on HBO Max right now.

Check out the special on HBO Max. What is that called? Salute Me or Shoot Me. Yeah. Salute Me or Shoot Me. Yeah. Named after a Waka Flocka mixtape. Shout out to Waka Flocka.

Waka Flocka. Thank you. Thank you. That was fun. Man. She was awesome. Real deal Bostonian. She knows her stuff.

I got to go check out some of her, what did she call it? The tour? Yeah. Black Culture Tour of Boston. Oh, that one. Yeah. You should do that yeah that'd be sick yeah i'll tag along with a really good caribbean food in dorchester and yeah but you go to the hipster food i yeah you go to like one time to a place i was interested and i probably shouldn't have been there but we got it she was riding hard for the the uh the chinese food of boston yeah which was a whoa.

Saying that to a San Francisco Bay Area man. I mean, I don't know. What do I know? My wife's the same thing. I think, you know, American Chinese was invented literally in San Francisco. Biggest Chinatown in. Literally. I don't know. There was one noodle spot I was trying to think of.

I used to go to Taiwan Cafe here and there. I never forget that. In Boston. I ordered from another one. What was Bernard's?ard's is the one over in chestnut hills like the chinese place named bernard's yeah it was a little it was all right it was good i liked it i liked it i was always i was always door dashing like wagamama from the seaport so i was not not experiencing seaport chinese come on yeah i know all well, that was a fun episode. It was great to get to know her a little bit.

Let's hit this old hotline. Oh, hold on, hold on. Before we hit the hotline, we didn't have a lot of time with Sam. We were moving and grooving. We were in the zone. But we got to talk about some of these records that were broken in this Week 17 game.

There's a slew of them we could do a whole episode just about these records and then we got to put our shine on our man randy uh 23 23 touchdown grabs um that was the record um most single season receiving touchdowns that still stands still stands um and then tom with his 50th TD pass. That was the record at the time. Broken in 2013 by Peyton Manning. 55. Still incredible.

That's still a Patriot. Started that season. We did his starting game of that season. Yeah, he had seven of them, right? Seven right there. Seven right there. On that faithful night against old Joe Flacco at mile high. Brady's record.

Joe Flacco. Flacco. Is he elite Joe Flacco. Flacco. Is he elite? Flacco. I'm still working on my Baltimore out. It's nice that some of these records have held up with the extra games still, too. For sure.

It wasn't just like they added an extra game and all these records fell down. It's nice that some of them are holding strong. We'll see if we go to 18 games. The Patriots finished the season with a plus 315 point differential, breaking the point differential of the 1942 Bears, which was plus 292. Crazy. And then we got to get to the viewership.

The viewership on this thing was nuts. Ended up with 34.6 million total viewers. This is a regular season. This is a regular season game. Last season, to put this in comparison, the high was 31.8 million viewers. That was on the Texans-Ravens playoff game of this last season.

January 20th, 2024. That's a playoff game. Right, but it's a playoff game. But still, to put it in comparison, 3 million more. And like we said, it was also broadcast on NFL Network, CBSbs and nbc um to get everybody i guess fox didn't get any love oh fox let's go probably the best team to not win a super bowl yeah ever yeah and maybe well in all sport

maybe in all sport maybe up there yeah i mean there's been the bruins team was very good last year really good do it but they weren't record setter they just had a great record bruins last year were even in the same con like that's like they were they broke a record for most wins like yeah but president cup winners never go on and there was also like the whole thing where they don't have overtime as much the whole shootout thing there's a lot of people always arguing that. Maybe that Golden State Warriors team. That could have been – that's –

That's a good conversation that we could have, maybe a full-on post-guest segment. Maybe a top five, top five. Best team to not win a championship. Ever. But I think just with the record – Record names, everything. And there's so much story around this 2017 with just getting Randy Moss

and then just balling out. West. Spygate and West. And then. Junior. Kicking the shit out of teams early. It was a vengeance tour. It was just going to be like.

It wasn't about whether the Patriots were going to win. It was going to be like, were they going to get 50? And how many points were they going to win by? Is what you were watching for. So. Fun season. Sucks what happened, but it's a good game. Same was great.

Want to relive some glory years. Let's do the hotline. Let's hit the hotline. Remember, that number is 424-291-2290. I'm calling because I just want to know, of all the players that you guys have played with, who was one of the smartest guys who never got the recognition that they deserved, that knew the game inside and out, but nobody would have known it?

That's my question. Wow, that's a good question. I'm going to go throwback team. Ryan Wendell, he was my roommate and he was a he knew everything inside and out of the playbook for the o-line he was very versatile he played center guard when we need him swing him around and like also he would always be, we were roommates for a couple years. He'd be reading in the communal room with the big TV in it, which is a faux, you can't do that. You can't take communal room and read.

The Xbox is literally in the communal room. And he would do that so much. I get so mad, but he was a fucking smart guy. And he, smart football football player very smart outside the game and now i think he's the offensive line coach for buffalo bills right he's with the rams now actually oh he's with rams i forgot 2023 as of uh 2023 to present yeah yeah he's smart he's smart what kind of stuff is he reading fiction non-fiction everything everything everything right ryan ryan would be a great guest to have We gotta get him on I just saw him

At practice Oh that's right Gotta get him in Bro you gotta be able to read through COD Put some noise cancelling headphones in I don't care No first off We had six bedrooms in the goddamn house Go sit your ass outside

Or go to your room Good question Hey Jules this is Nathan in the goddamn house. Go sit your ass outside or go to your room. Good question. Hey, Jules. This is Nathan from Woonsocket, Rhode Island. I was wondering if the Patriots made the playoff and they gave you a call and said, hey, Jules, we need you to finish this run. Would you come back?

I love the show? Love the show. Love the content. You're amazing. Nathan, like, we talking, like, we have a shot to win this thing? Let's help Nathan out. You're one seed. Pats are one seed. Killing it.

Drake Mays slinging it out. You know, and then their top receiver goes down. You get a phone call. Now, is this, how many games we have. Now, is this how many games we have? Like, is this in the AFC championship? We talk in divisional round. They got to buy and they're going to play their first game. The first game.

Oh, so this is the jump of playoffs. Yeah. Oh, I mean, I would I would I would teeter at it. It's just that they're going to be fine tuned when you go into an NFL season. I haven't played in two years, three years. You're going to jump in to when these guys are full bored out perfectly

running on fucking just straight alcohol as in a car. Like, no, dude. These guys are so fine-tuned by this point of the season, it'd be hard. I'd be able to get open a couple times. What if Coach Mayo said,

I just need a couple third downs in the fourth quarter? Mayo will know this. Mayo, if you're watching this, you'll know this. You and me, baby. Next question. Watch, Mayo's going to laugh. Hey, Jules. I was thinking, considering you were on the roast

of Brady on Netflix the other night, I was thinking about possibly if you could bring in Randy. You talk about game, I don't know, you could pick a game, whether it be Dallas, Thanksgiving 98, or the game

against the Giants where he broke the Jerry Rice's record. That'd be cool. Thank you. Yeah, we would love to get the game against the Giants where he broke the Jerry Rice's record. That would be cool. Thank you. Yeah, we would love to get Randy on. We talked about it. We'll figure we're going to get him on here as soon as we can.

We might have to go out and bring games with names on a fishing boat, on a bass boat, and do this thing while we're fishing or something. Because Randy, if he ain't doing TV, he's fishing by knowing anything. He was so great to see him. He's the best. He's the best. A little shine to Randy on that faithful day in 98. We all know the meme, the screenshot. Three catches, 163 yards, three TDs.

Dang. What a stat line. He's a freak. That's a stat line. He's a freak. That's a stat line. Bombs. Games with names. This is Aaron Andrews from the East Coast again. Just wanted to call in and say that I had a great time watching y'all.

Well, the Patriots at the Rose of Tom Brady. Jules, I love you. I miss you all on the field. Obviously, that will never change. But great times. It was great seeing you all on the field. Obviously, that will never change. But great times. It was great seeing you all together again. Anyway, looking forward to listening to your podcast. All righty.

Peace. Aaron Andrews again. Is there a question in there? I think he's just glazing us up, loving us up. Good guy. He might be the new member of the WACPAC here. The frequent caller. I love it.

Hey, Julian. This is Nick from Michigan. That episode you guys had with Ernie Adams was beautiful. There's a lot of great information. And if you can definitely get him on again to do another game, that would be great for us football fans. Just wanted to say thank you. And you guys are doing a great job.

Take care, Julian. Ernie. Ernie. Ernie. Er Julian. Ernie. Ernie. Ernie. Ernie. Ernie. Ernie. Coach, I feel like this is like a Rudy.

Remember Rudy? Coach, I'm not playing unless Rudy's in. Whatever. Put my jersey on the table. I'll put my hat on for Ernie to come back. Coach, I don't know when we're going to drop this, but there could be some. I think it's before.

So you've been dropping this before? Yeah, but we can be teasy about it. We'll see. We've got a little earned dog special coming up with the Patriots, a little collab. We'll check that out here. Be on the lookout. You'll know it when you see it.

You'll know it. Ready. Hey, Jules, it's Nick from Maine. Big fan of yours for a long time. I wanted to pitch two games for you. Game two, 2017 Eastern Conference Finals, Isaiah Thomas' 53-point blowout game. And then another one kind of out of left field for you, 2009 Breakout Championship, Montreal Alouettes, Saskatchewan Roughriders, the 13th man game.

I think it may be like Ben Cahajon receiver for the Alouettes. You and him seemed to have pretty similar styles back then. I feel like that was a fun conversation, too. Love the pod. Thanks, Jules. Straight CFL and Isaiah Thomas, 53 blowout game. I love that. The 13th man game.

I got to do a little digging on that one. We got to check it out. Fun fact. Almost was a BC Lion. BC Lion. the 13th manium i gotta do a little uh digging on that one you gotta check it out fun fact i'm almost as a bc lion bc lion and the mainer like in the cf or the was it cfl right huh what do they call it canadian league cfo yeah cfo yeah mainer i wonder how north and i remember when isaiah thomas was blown this is this was for the the celts right? Yeah. This was, I mean, it was. He was with us. The fourth quarter rolls around. IT points to his wrist, baby. Yeah.

And playing out. He had a hip thing that went down. I know. That was. Or what happened? He still trying to get in? Yeah, he finished the year with the Suns this year. But, I mean, he was balling in the G League, still trying to come back. But, yeah, once he lost that quickness in that first step with the hip,

it was kind of downhill, unfortunately. But, man, some of those fourth quarters in that season with the Celts, man. He was balling. Electric. I remember. The little guy. The little guy, Tommy used to say. Legend.

He's taking over. Hey, Jules. Gronk. This is Rad from Chicago, Illinois. I'm a diehard Hats fan surrounded by A tiered Chicago Bears fan In the great city of Chicago My question for you guys is

Did you have any pre-game rituals Or superstitions that you had to complete Before the game? And if not, did you have any unique Teammates That had some Unique rituals And superstitions before the game. That's it. Go Pets.

I used to lay out my uniform. I remember I saw a picture of Dion doing it pregame. And so I used to do it since I was like a kid. You're talking like on the floor of the locker room? On the floor. You put your pants, your jersey, your socks, your cleats. You basically make like a, what is it, like a FBI print?

Yeah, like a crime scene. Where like a dead body is of your uniform. Very reminiscent of the first day of school kind of vibe. Yeah. Get your fit laid out, yeah. Always lay out. I have like four, I always had, I'd have like three or four different socks. Four, because I used to go like a, a, a sock for a while.

I didn't Jordan socks. And then I stopped doing those. I did these other socks and then I'd have the tights or I was wearing where you would wear a sock and then you put like a blue sleeve over your calf. And I'd always have to pick from like three brand new ones three three or four brand new ones I'd have four pairs and I just have to like look see and then I had the same routine I get there like four hours early I go and sit in the hot tub with my play sheet my play call sheet which you know you have every situation every you know everything in the game plan that you could run you do that chad o'shea our receiver coach used to give the give us these tip sheets so you go over everything third down plan four point plan or four point plan third down the red area uh your backed up situations your situate your air ball you had everything on it so you go over that in the hot

tub after that i would go catch balls I had this tennis tennis ball drill or I would go over in the back of the stadium and sometimes people fans could actually see you know they'd walk by because they would rope it off and there'd be some security guys there because I needed a brick wall and so I used to do like 200 250 balls of that I had these different uh drills that I used to do and then I'd go to the field, and it started with Double J's, who was our equipment manager. Then it went to Bobby Balls, and then it went to Bobby. There was like three different guys, or Bobby Balls,

and then I had Jimmy Neutron for a while. I used to call his kid Jimmy Neutron, but then Bobby Balls replaced him. So then we'd go do like 150 to 200 catch circuit that I would do every time. Then I would go in and I would get my body worked on. I would do like a circuit pregame, like flush of all my lower extremities. That'd be like 45 minutes after that i would i would shower and then i would go i would go take an iv oh i i would get i would always sign up for two bags but i'd have a chew-in and so i could i'd have to take a bag down and then like by the second time through your spit you could tell how hydrated you

were so if i was spitting a lot and then i had that's when i would stop my iv uh and then go go to the locker put your shit on i'd always go uh right to left and then uh ivan fears would be in there getting ready to call. Early birds, returners. Everyone had their mark when they were going to go to the field. And it was like that every game, every game. Away Stadium, I'd have to go find a place where I could do my tennis ball thing. Or sometimes on the Away Stadium, we would do it at the hotel. So I'd get up early, go to to the i would find a parking lot i mean

we'd be scouring i'd have our equipment guy super bowls everything we'd scour for a fucking brick wall so i could do my ball drills every day it was crazy like it was like a thing that's cool you know i mean like oh shit we haven't found it'll be you know like double j's i got half the equipment staff like fucking where are we gonna do this thing it was fucking awesome but they always took care of me and those guys i mean those are the types of people that get are the unsung heroes the equipment staffs the training staffs the fucking meal ladies like all the people behind the scenes in the hallways when you see the guys working on the fields like you i was around them for so long you create these relationships and you know it and it was everyone take the win.

Heck yes. Were there, like you mentioned doing that routine on away games. Was there any stadiums that were really good for your routine? Yeah, Denver always had a lot of space. Denver had huge locker rooms. You could do it in the fucking locker room. Whoa. You know what I mean?

Like I remember when we went to San Franciscoisco we stayed in redwood shores like we had to me and double j or it was bobby balls and or could we could even had an intern because there was a while where double j's as we know he got fired and uh you know then i had like i had like basically a throwing combine for all the people that worked. I had scouts. I was like, nah, you can't do it, dude. Nope. Nope. You know, these guys, they'd all be busting my balls like, oh, we having the combine this year.

Like the training staff would be fucking with me, Jim Wayland and stuff. Or sometimes there'd be a trainer that could throw, and I'd have to steal him. He's like doing work. I'm like, he ain't playing this week. Let's go get the balls. But San Francisco, we had to, like, walk, and we were doing it. And there's, like, rocks, and balls are going near the bay

because we were right on the water and shit. It was so fucking fun. And I knew exactly where we were because I grew up in that area. That was, like, one of my favorites. Oh, that rocks. That's awesome. That was a good question. Yeah, and there's more.

We won't go into it now, but there's more. But I want to hear about other players' superstitions or routines, too, at some point in the future. Yeah, but I didn't worry about it. I wasn't, like, looking at other players. You're in a fucking zone, bro. I'm going to war. You think I'm worried about what they're doing?

No, because if I do my job, he does his job, we collectively do our job together, and we go and fucking win and execute the goddamn game. I'm not sitting here stroking jojo's looking at fucking gronk's dick kyler okay more of a hockey thing then i get it our man from chicago great question yeah also i wanted to touch on that i don't think i've ever heard anyone from say let's go pats in like a midwestern accent it sounds good i like it let's go Let's go Pats. Let's go Pats. Chicago. Not bad.

Chicago. Let's go Pats. We need Ninko. We got to get Ninko. I've been a fan of the podcast since it started. There's at least two guys I want you to consider interviewing at some point in the future. Either, like, Willie McGinnis on the infamous game against Indianapolis

where he stopped Edgerton James at the goal line, and or possibly Troy Palomalu in the game against the Ravens in the AFC Championship game where he picked up Flacco. Flacco. From Pittsburgh to 43. I hope that will happen at some point. Be excited if it does. God bless.

Those are two. We got to get them on. Willie Mack, he'll come on. We got to get Willie Mack on. It was good to see him a couple days ago at the roast. Heck yeah. He's a big bro. Troy Palamalu, that would be an awesome guest.

I was such a fan of Polamalu. When I was at Kent State, funny story, I lived with Brian Lainhart and Cabrani Mixon. We had like this room and we stole these Nike cutouts from, I think it was like a shoe store. They were like throwing it away or something. Like a champ sports kind of thing. Yeah, and there was Nike cutout out of fucking troy and of west welker and we had them in our fucking we had them in our house

like on our walls and so it was it was crazy that's hilarious love troy i mean troy was so cool and i grew up in i grew up in california and i grew up playing with like a lot of pollies samoans tongans so i was always a huge like any Samoan, any Tongan in the league. The juniors. He was a god when I was a kid, even though I was a Niners fan. But he was just so cool. So that for sure would be amazing to get Troy on here. I'm such a fan of him and the respect he has for the game.

He'd go light you up and like do a prayer for you afterwards. And he prayed before every play. I think that's, that's a superstition. Talk about superstition, not superstition, religious routine. When did he retire?

I played against him a couple of times. Yeah. Yeah. He was, he was a little older and those are two guys. I caught a ball on him. I think, but I think he hit a couple times. Yeah. Yeah. He was a little older. And those are two guys. I caught a ball on him, I think. I think he hit me pretty hard.

I had to block him a couple times. Those are two guys I would love to have on my team for a goal line stand. Will Mack and Troy Palomaro. Dude, Troy just timing snap, jumping over, getting the fucking quarterback. He had some of the craziest stuff. He's awesome. He was 0-3 to 14. Yeah. Which way? Highlights later? Oh, I'm down. Okay. I's awesome. He was 0-3 to 14. Yeah, which way? Highlights later?

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