Games with Names - "2131" with Lewis Black | Angels vs. Orioles
Episode Date: March 12, 2024Lewis Black is in studio! We're reliving the iconic 2131 Game when Cal Ripken Jr. broke Lou Gehrig's record for most consecutive games played. Lewis joins us on the couch (2:17). We go back to Septemb...er of 1995 (18:15). We check out each of these rosters (39:48). We dive into the game (44:01). We score it (1:02:06). Then, we wrap it up by looking at the most unbreakable sports records of all time (1:09:50). Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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I've never done anything 2,131 days in a row.
There's nothing I can think of.
Is there anything you can think of that you did?
Honestly, this is a PG podcast, but yeah, there's nothing.
There's nothing.
Today we have a very special guest.
He's a legendary comedian, actor, and playwright.
Now isn't that a load of horse s***?
Huge Baltimore fan, Louis Black in studio.
We're talking 21-31.
This is the game where Cal Ripken broke the record for most consecutive games.
Is this deserved, a 22-minute standing O?
Yeah, I think it's deserved, but I don't want to be there for it.
Who is worse or more insufferable, Boston fans or New York fans?
Who? The Yankees? Go f*** yourself.
I hate the Yankees.
Going back to the track.
To Phan reaches up and touches it.
You got anything else you want to traumatize me with?
What's your greatest rant of all time?
Janet Jackson's.
Nipple?
The nipple.
Janet Jackson's breast exposed to the entire nation.
What would we do?
You show a nip, I'm going to be there to watch the nip.
You never saw her nip.
Bring us the breast.
We must see the breast.
And they just kept showing it, showing it, showing it.
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September 6th, 1995.
Camden Yards, Baltimore, Maryland.
After 2,130 games, Cal Ripken is on the doorstep of immortality. This is 2131. Costner.
Welcome to Games with Names. Today we have a very special guest, Lewis Black in studio.
He's a legendary comedian actor and playwright loved
him and accepted as a kid his stand-up is tragically i need you streaming now on youtube
catch him on the off the rails tour in the city near you huge baltimore fan baltimore oreo fan
welcome to games with names that's jack's Jack. That's Kyler.
We got Leah over there.
She's a huge Baltimore fan.
So welcome to the studio and we appreciate you coming.
Well, this is great.
Thank you for having me.
As soon as you walked in, I was like, Hollywood people, you guys all look great.
You just look young.
Always.
You could always see an actor.
Yeah, but this was, I'm not Hollywood.
You know, I'm kind of, I've reached the wax fruit stage at my age.
Wax fruit?
Yeah.
But I really, I live in New York.
If I was out here, I'd probably be, I wouldn't, you wouldn't, you'd never see me.
I'd be, I'd just, this place never see me I'd just
This place freaks me the fuck out
It does and I probably wouldn't see you
Because even if you live
Three miles away it'd be 45 minutes to get to you
So traffic is not easy
But I love your car
And I don't
I stopped driving here
I stopped, no
You want to know something crazy
If you want to have a fun night on a Friday
You go up to any rooftop I've stopped to know. You want to know something crazy? If you want to have a fun night on a Friday,
you go up to any rooftop apartment in the West Hollywood area, and you're guaranteed to see a police chase.
You're seeing helicopters.
You might see some road stoppages.
I swear to God I see one at least once a month here.
The helicopter thing is a
constant here it's a lot of the time it is you can day after day of them tracking something somewhere
you know i mean but i i literally uh discovered that i had to stop driving because i would get
picked up or i'd be in a car just heading out with friends, and I'd be in the back seat experiencing road rage.
And I'm thinking, if I'm not driving,
this is not healthy for me to be behind the wheel.
And I'd just scream at cars.
Literally, somebody would pick me up at the airport
to go do something, and I would sit in the back of the car
and yelling out the window,
where are you going?
What are you doing?
What?
I literally felt there's too many cars.
These people are supposed to be at work.
Why aren't they at work?
I had a lot of questions I wanted to ask them.
No one works here.
No, it doesn't appear to be.
I was on 405.
I'm 405.
It's just like, it's rush hour 24-7.
Honestly, it's rush hour all the time here,
except if you get up before 7 o'clock. Like, it's rush hour all the time here except if you're a you get up before seven o'clock
like it's crazy i could get i could leave my house by seven rocky that's my dog rocky by the way come
here here get over there rocky go yeah we do this a little differently here uh
it's good no one gets up early here like i remember I lived in the city in Boston, and then I would commute to Foxborough, which is like 30 miles.
And I'd wake up at like 4.30.
I'd leave the house by like 4.50.
I wanted to be there by 5.15.
There'd be a line of traffic.
The traffic in the East Coast, people get up to work in the East Coast.
Out here, after 9, then there's traffic.
Is that right?
It's crazy.
Because I haven't been out here in a while.
It's too many cars.
It is.
So today we're looking at the 21-31 game, Cal Ripken game,
California Angels versus the Baltimore Orioles from 1995.
This is the game where Cal Ripken broke the Lou Gehrig.
This is when he broke the record for most consecutive games.
And why did we pick this game?
We picked this game because I'm an Oriole fan.
And going back earlier, if we went back to really kind of where I started,
the Brooks Robinson thing,
you know, that team and Earl Weaver was the coach at that time.
This was, I think, a better sweet spot for folks to remember.
You start to get back there and we lose a third of our audience.
Well, you know, they played baseball then?
Yes.
Well, that's when they actually played baseball.
Yeah, they actually, yeah.
And people lived in the town.
Yeah.
This is home run derby now.
This ain't baseball.
You never see a bunt or a why.
It's crazy.
Rocky, can you go?
Can someone take Rocky?
What kind of a dog is that?
That's an Australian Labradoodle.
Wow.
Yeah, so I wanted to get a golden retriever.
Yeah. But I have nightmares because I get a golden retriever yeah but i have nightmares because i had a golden
retriever growing up and my responsibility as a child was a to pick up his huge turds and b
to keep the hair out of the house yeah and hair out of the house the dog's been dead for 15 years
and there's still hair in the house so i got i went and i started looking at hypoallergenic
dogs that don't shed this has retriever in it lab in it he also has a cocker spaniel
water spaniel and poodle that's the reason he doesn't shed so i got little rocky my little
girl lily loves him so well it's a beautiful dog. He is, but he's just starting to chew stuff.
He's getting crazy.
But I'll tell you, the other reason I kind of picked this game
is because I've never done anything 2,131 days in a row, ever.
Honestly?
I mean, not even eat breakfast every day.
There's nothing I can think of.
Is there anything you can think of that you did where every every 2131 that's a lot of games listen this is a pg podcast but uh i know
yeah i there's nothing there's nothing there's no the contest the streak really 20 you're gonna
tell me 2131 in a row? Yeah. Wow.
I don't know what you're talking about.
Wow.
If that's the case, I would have rather discussed that.
Yeah.
This is all about Cal Ripken, baby.
Cal Ripken, Wally Pippen, Lou Gehrig.
And Lou Gehrig, yeah.
No, Wally Pippen, that was talking about screwed.
I know. To come in after that.
And after the speech, you know, you can't follow that you can't
there's no way that's just a huge thing that everyone always brings up with me because
belichick asked welker have you heard of wally pip and it's always like a meme going around on
the internet about about me when i returned a touchdown and it was so we always try to bring
that in somehow we we snuck it in there with lou garrick
and on this thing you gotta tell us about tell us about your sports fandom in baltimore how'd that
grow like you were born in maryland here's how what's here i'll tell you this so i'm i'm from
maryland but i'm close to dc and closer to that you know the the ballpark yeah it was a Griffith Stadium back then
uh and um and then that went away I don't even remember the the the name of the other stadium
they came up with the but uh I had I was a senator fan and initially a Dodger fan okay the Brooklyn
Dodgers my family would go there and uh and i was and i kind of like cooked
when that was i was really like four or five and i started getting into them then of course what
did they do they screw me by moving out here okay hey we're leaving uh take your childhood dreams
let me just shit on them and so then uh i go to the washington senators who are now playing
downtown they start to get good.
And they got Harmon Killebrew, Bobby Allison.
They're getting good.
And what do they do?
They move.
They move to Minnesota.
Minnesota.
So they do that.
That really, okay.
And then they're gone.
So I start to pay attention to Baltimore, which is close by.
How old were you when this was all going down?
That was early on.
So I must have been probably 10, 11, 12, 13.
Oh, yeah.
And that's another.
It wasn't a hard.
That was more like, okay, this is really a big,
this sports thing is a business.
You know, you don't need to learn that at that age.
Yeah.
So they go away and I get into, you know,
the Orioles, who at that time start to have Earl Weaver as the manager.
He's phenomenal.
They've got, you know, Jim Palmer is pitching.
All of these, you know, you've got Stu Miller's pitching.
They had four 20-game winners.
They were just a great team to follow.
And so I kind of started following them.
Then Washington brings a team back.
Yeah.
And they get another one come in.
And okay, we'll root for them.
Let's root for them again.
And within two, three years, they're gone.
Yeah.
They already, they're like, they go to Texas.
Yeah, the Rangers.
And so once that happened, it was, that was it.
It was Baltimore.
You're kind of like the good luck Chuck of franchises going to somewhere new.
Oh, yeah.
And then what they did, too, which solidified my fandom for Baltimore,
they're bringing a third time in the history of sports within a 50-year span.
Three teams come to your town.
Now they switch from the American League to the National League.
Come on.
I mean, it's erroneous.
I don't even know if you could use that word there,
but I just feel like I need to bring up my vocabulary when I'm around you
because you're a funny guy.
Yeah, but that's okay.
That's okay, and don't throw out words that I don't know.
Were you a Baltimore Colts fan?
Yeah, and they screwed me there too.
So you're getting screwed left and right.
Yeah.
No, I was a Colts fan, and that's what sent me back to washington because the colts cover a night they take them away in mayflower trucks
so you're an r words fan back then you went to the baltimore colts to r words yeah and then now
they're the commanders but they might go back to the r words no they're not going back they're not
i heard there's a petition no i know there's a petition but good luck with that okay and the commanders isn't that name's gonna go too that's gotta go let's go and heard there was a petition. I know there's a petition, but good luck with that. Okay? And the commanders, that name's going to go, too.
That's got to go.
That's got to go.
And then there was a group.
It was honestly a great, great.
Football team was a great team name.
Yeah.
Especially with an old school color combination that the red or the.
The maroon.
Yeah.
You can't even say.
I'm sorry.
We'll blank that out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The Washington football team sounded. That was kind of cool to me.
That is what I think.
Should have called them?
That was the name they should have? Or the Hogs.
No, fuck the Hogs.
Can we say that?
I don't know.
You can say fuck anything here.
Yeah, because you don't know.
Some of it's on the radio.
No, this is podcast. It's live on youtube we we are just uncensored you can pull out anything right
now really well i don't have anything so i was just saying like out of your brain oh yeah out
of your brain out of your brain
that made my day.
So we'll see.
At least Dan Snyder's gone.
This is all new.
No, this is huge.
And the NFL is crazy, man.
Like, look at the Chiefs.
The Chiefs weren't good.
They haven't been good since 1960 before this run.
The Patriots were never good until Brady got.
It's all a crapshoot on how you get a quarterback.
Can I ask you a question?
Yeah, ask me a question.
Because the thing that I'm, you know, now I do fantasy football, you know.
Yeah.
I have three teams because I need as much distraction as I can from reality.
So I have three teams.
Video games.
You should try video games.
I don't do those.
I'm not quick.
Dexterity.
Yeah. It's tough.
I grew up on three buttons.
Yeah.
Now these, like, 50 buttons, I'm getting my ass beat by a fucking 10-year-old.
Yeah, well, think about it.
My generation was Pong, which is like dink, dink, dink.
Dexterity is not there.
There's nothing there.
There's nothing there.
I cut you off.
I'm sorry.
Oh, no, no, no.
It's fine.
It's your show.
The question.
The question I had was, so I'm playing this, you know, playing these games.
I mean, watching these games and having my team.
And it's really when you finally, doing that, realize the level of injuries going on is staggering.
And you don't really, before that, I knew it with my team.
I knew it with Washington.
God, he's gone and that's gone. And now we don't really, before that, I knew it with my team. I knew it with Washington. God, he's gone and that's gone.
And now we don't have a line.
But you don't get the whole devastation.
I mean, it is literally.
And then now they've added this thing where, oh, good, here's a good idea.
Let's play Monday, Thursday, and Sunday.
Let's try to get people to play with five days rest.
What planet?
Even I know.
Why don't we add another couple games, too, while we're at it?
Yeah.
I mean, that's what the NFL, more games, more money.
More games, more money.
And they already have money.
It is.
I mean, when you play in the National Football League,
and if you're talking about your team before the season,
and if you ever hear, if we we stay healthy we'll be like you're
already wrong yeah because it's a hundred percent injury rate it doesn't matter you know it doesn't
matter if you don't play or if you're playing every guy starts out at about a hundred percent
by week four they're already probably 80 just from bangs and bruises god forbid any big you know
injuries which you know with the playing surface that they're on nowadays.
Well, that's the thing.
That was the other question I had.
I hated the plane surfaces.
That's what I wondered because the first time I walked onto,
I didn't know, it was years and years ago,
in Seattle at whatever the kingdom, whatever the hell it was.
And it was, that it was, you guys were playing on concrete out there.
It's concrete.
It's changed up.
It's changed up.
They have the artificial turf now.
Right.
But isn't that above concrete?
It is above concrete and they do put a rubber layer over it.
There's not enough rubber in the universe.
Yeah, it's tough.
And that's why a lot of the
you know there's a big thing going on right now between the players and the owners where the
players are trying to mandate you know grass well yeah wouldn't it make sense that's the crazy thing
is you know when i would play at gillette we played on a turf field an artificial turf field
we would always host these international friendlies to soccer
teams or football teams and they would bring in grass for one night put it on there because they
have a mandate where their players have to play on grass for health reasons and then they would
take that grass and throw it away and let us go play so it's crazy but speaking of how crazy injuries are it's pretty crazy that
how ripken never nothing 21 31 yeah like that's that's even that's that's insane to me that
yeah it's really beyond belief like you we were joking earlier like have you done anything that long that is like flu or you're spraying exactly but i mean
flu i mean any look what if you got covid yeah it couldn't happen nowadays if he would have got
covid he would have to sit out yeah what if you caught kevin costner with your wife
or kevin cost no that's what you know what you do jack you cancel the game turn the lights off
you turn the lights off that's really you turn Jack? You cancel the game. Turn the lights off. You turn the lights off.
That's really... You turn the lights off.
You did cancel the game.
I want that urban legend to be true.
I want it to be true so bad.
I really hope it's true.
And I don't know why anybody would sleep with Kevin Costner.
And you can quote me on that.
You don't?
Well, I mean, you know, no, I don't want to sleep with him.
You do?
Nah, but he's a pretty cool guy.
If I was a girl, maybe.
Well, maybe.
I don't know.
I don't know. I don't know.
He was supposed to come to a show that I did and then didn't show up.
So then I would never sleep with him.
I would never.
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We got a segment where we go back in the day of September 20th,
the day that the game takes place,
and we talk about pop culture things.
That's when the Macarena came out?
Macarena.
No.
September 6th, 1995.
Wow.
The Macarena came out.
Good God.
Can you do the Macarena?
No, and I don't even want to think.
Now it's in my head.
Remember, everybody has Austin Powers. Remember remember they made fun of it yeah apollo 13 was the number one movie good great movie how crazy is it though like after
i watched that movie that's like the absolute best scenario that could ever like those people
could have been gone yeah has anyone been lost
in space no not to my knowledge no no just in the tv yeah that that'd be a weird way to go
imagine what if you had like oxygen if you were just floating around you get sucked out of your
thing but you somehow had your your your suit on and you had like a year of oxygen and you just floating and you had a
couple power bars that you could last out there this is this is the you are mildly psychotic yeah
you're not the first one to tell me that and you won't be the last did i say that as a compliment
that's the sad part which i do actually if you're out there with like a couple you're out there with a year
supply of oxygen and a couple of power couple power bars so you're getting at least you're
getting at least maybe two or three a month somewhere neil degrasse tyson's pulling his
hair out right now and listening to that around this time september 3rd ebay was founded jesus
i've never bought anything on ebay When this first came out, Lewis,
I went into my parents' fucking closet
and I would just start taking pictures of everything
and I would just try to sell everything I could.
Is that right?
I was selling everything I could find on eBay.
Industriously?
That's great.
Or best offer, a PlayStation.
No, if I took a picture of my parents' closet
to try to sell the stuff,
people would have tried
to adopt me.
They would have said,
this is the saddest collection
of clothing we've ever seen.
Patrick Mahomes was born
on the 17th while he's young.
Oh, in October of this year,
this is when OJ was found not guilty yep yeah that was just an
extraordinary moment in time that do you remember where you were at when that that chase was going
on i i was in like third grade or something what was i in fourth grade yeah i had friends i mean
i don't remember i was at home because i just sat there watching it. Yeah, everyone did. They rolled in a fucking TV to my goddamn classroom,
and we're like eight years old watching the goddamn police chase.
No.
Yes.
Wow.
I was like, what is going on here?
That is crazy.
That's really.
But you're in the Bay Area.
I was in the Bay Area.
Wow.
You thought they'd be a little hipper than that.
OJ played for the Niners, you know.
He's from San Fran.
Yeah, but you don't. The
eight-year-old doesn't need to see the shakes.
There's a good lesson.
And remember, get
a friend to drive you if you're thinking of
murder. There's a way to start.
Designated drivers.
KDD.
It's insane. We have gone 20-something-odd
episodes with no OJ mention.
We moved the show to Brentwood. We're talking about OJ every other episode.
It must be a Brentwood thing.
It must be a Brentwood thing.
The juice, the glove don't fit.
You must acquit.
Yes.
I guess that was a hell of a.
It was just an unbelievable moment in time.
I mean, that's.
The crazy thing is, Lewis, he did endorse me to get in the Hall of Fame.
Did he?
Yeah. I don't know why why but it randomly came on like someone had a camera in his face and asked me asked him about he's like
yeah he endorsed me wow well that's taking you down a notch i still like you as a person it's
all right it's all right at least there's a couple more notches to go down. What was life like in 1995 for Louis Black?
I've been on The Daily Show 27 years.
So I am just wandering around the country.
Stand-up?
Stand-up.
Doing stand-up in clubs.
I had been a playwright until I was 40 years old.
And then about 1990, I was done with playwriting and
now i started to go out on the road as a comic and going to playing clubs around and i was lucky
enough that i'd worked enough i kind of skipped being a middle act he was you know there's a
headline the the opener the headliner of the middle act in the headliner and I kind of jumped to headliner status and so I made it I started to make a living I made
no money how did you transition from playwright to stand-up comic well I was doing it on the side
for kind of fun for grins because I was got a kick out of it have you ever tried it no I can't
yeah no yeah I mean not that funny well yeah you're funny so uh yeah but that's like
that's time like when I have such a crazy respect because I've kind of Sam Morell
we we did we did this podcast last season together he's a big comic out there and so I go watch him
over at the uh the cellar all the time yeah and so i've been in that comic community those guys are so smart to
be able to fucking tell a story tell a couple other jokes keep you dingled with this and then
bring it back to and bring it all together to like bring the other the intro back into that
i can't do that that's like writing a fucking paper yeah but there's but there but you're you're
you are funny and then everybody there's a lot of people who try it at least once you know and i was just wondering because they're
but you at least have a respect they're people who just go those people go you know i could do that
no you can't do that no anyone who's at the highest level of anything they do
they're not there by mistake yeah no it's, it's really, and the amount of...
You either touch by God or you work your ass off.
You know, there's a couple different things,
but even the touch by God guys,
they still have to work hard to stay there.
Yeah.
Because there's just so many people
are always coming to take jobs and, you know.
It's really true.
But I ended up, I started doing the road
and I made the transition in part
because I'd been doing it on the side for fun.
And I ran this room in New York City
that was called the West Bank Cafe Downstairs Theater Bar,
and it was below this restaurant.
And it was like 1983 I started running this thing.
And so by about 1990 we were rolling along,
and I introduced everything that came on the stage.
And on the side, and then on the weekends,
we would do a show, and I would do stand-up.
And nobody really, and I didn't really worry about it
because I'm not a stand-up, so you kind of get rid of that.
But doing the intros, I got really comfortable on stage.
And then doing these things on the intros, I got really comfortable on stage and then doing these
things on the weekend where I started to develop material.
And so then people started to see me and so I'm wanting to be a playwright, but then they're
going, good, you're really good at this.
Why don't you come down to catch a rising star?
And I'm going, come on.
No, nope.
And so that's what people kind of gravitated toward.
And, and really playwriting and stand-up the thing is
i i was writing for myself so basically you know you you know you get up there it's like
you know i was writing plays so now i'm i'm the performer i'm the writer i'm the director
so you know how to write yeah and i didn't really write anything down i just got up and talk that's
how nuts i am but you you can you can connect those dots and and probably being around it like when you're intro and everyone you're
sitting there and you're watching these guys and you're probably you know like well he probably
could have went here with that because your your brain thinks like that you got a big brain
i wouldn't but it's it there's a garage in there and a couple of... Yeah, you could probably put two, three cars in that thing.
Yeah, exactly.
It's a big garage.
What's the comedy scene like in 95?
Were you rolling around to these places?
Did you ever come to L.A.?
Did you ever go to New York?
I came out to L.A. somewhat, but I never worked there.
I was at the Comedy Store yesterday, and I didn't perform that yesterday.
I just went there.
I'd never been in there.
It's cool. I mean, I'd been there twice, but I'd never and i didn't perform that yesterday i just went there i'd never been in there it's cool i mean i'd i'd been there twice but i'd never performed yeah i performed
at the improv when i got out of here the laugh factory first but i went around the country and
just went to whatever club that would have me so uh i was you know wandering from club to club to
club but i wasn't it wasn't consistent because i wasn't really known. But in New York, I'm working Catch a Rising Star.
I'm working the Improv, well, not the Improv had left,
but I'm working Catch.
I'm working Caroline's.
I'm working Dangerfield's.
Did you ever go to Dangerfield's?
No, I've never been there.
It's really fascinating.
Guys dressed up in tuxes. It's like a mob joint in a way. Because the dressed up in tuxes.
It's like a mob joint in a way.
Because the guys are in tuxes and they're serving
and they have these little red lights on the table
and you could flick them and then somebody would come over and serve food.
And I'd be on stage there.
It was so great.
It was so insane.
And never met Rodney.
And you'd get on stage and and the waiter would come, literally,
and stand in front of you, like five feet away.
And so what do you want?
Talking to the table.
And I'm standing there in the middle of my act.
And it teaches you a lot, because instead of getting upset,
I would start laughing.
I just went.
There was a piano behind me, and I put my head down and laughed for like until he was done
and then i'd come back to the audience and i said that was fun and then i'd go back on and but you'd learn these things from playing the crowd yeah i did the comedy i did the cellar yeah and i had to
lead the cellar because the cellar was, it was like a squash court this way.
And the back of the room was like 75, 80 feet away, 90, 100 feet.
And I'm screaming like a lunatic.
So my act then was just totally bellowing shit.
You know,
And that would be what I'd do for, you know, like 20 straight minutes.
Well, if you're doing it and it's 80 feet away,
it's like they can't handle that.
It's too much.
And so I could never really, it was never really,
I've always felt that if I could have stood at this end of the room
and talked that way, I had a shot in that room.
But I just.
The pitch levels are a little weird.
I just said, I can't do this. Reminds me of the Seattle Seahawks and their room. The pitch levels are a little weird. I just said, I can't do this.
Reminds me of the Seattle Seahawks and their stadium.
The pitch levels make it really loud.
Oh, yeah, the Seahawks.
I can only imagine if you were to go there,
we'd have to pitch you at a right angle so you could hit that whole thing,
and it'd probably sound insanely loud on a ramp.
It would be great.
Who was like a comedian when you first started that was like rolling around that you kind
of looked up to george carlin yeah um prior uh i really liked lenny bruce but he was gone yeah i
liked uh lily tomlin i liked uh you know some people don't know Phyllis Diller, who was just as wacky as they came.
She was just great.
I liked Bob Newhart.
There's a whole slew of them.
And they all, and I watched every, Ed Sullivan used to have comics galore.
And so every week I watched.
And they were all different and all unique.
And they all seemed to be, you know, making a living.
And I just kind of watched them.
I just was fascinated by the fact that somebody could get up there
and say, I'm going to make you laugh,
and it took me a long time to get comfortable with that
because it seems there's a certain amount of arrogance to that.
Do you watch comedy now at all?
Do you watch these stand-up?
I watch some comedy, but it's hard to watch people
that I think are going to do stuff that I'm thinking about.
Because I don't want to, it'll just go into my brain and it'll sit there.
And then all of a sudden I find myself, I might be saying something that somebody else said.
So I kind of avoid it for a time until it's kind of the statute of limitations.
I'm not doing that stuff anymore.
Then I can go watch what their take was.
That's interesting. You don't want it because material because it's really in your head yeah and then
you'll you'll naturally subconsciously yeah well it just goes in you know and and you and it might
come out and you don't you don't want to deal with that you know oh he stole this no i didn't
and it was also because i want to think about it.
And sometimes, which just drives you nuts, you kind of watch somebody and you go,
fuck, why didn't I think of that? Yeah.
And so at least this way I could stumble into something that might be.
A lot of stolen material out there, just like in 1994 when the MLB stole our hearts away with the strike.
How angry were you with that?
I was, well, you know, for me it was probably, I remember I wasn't, when the MLB stole our hearts away with the strike. How angry were you with that?
Well, you know, for me it was probably, I remember I wasn't,
I was angry at the fact that they struck,
but it also meant that my team wasn't going to lose.
So it was kind of an up.
It's an up.
Kind of an upbeat thing.
You know, at least they're not going to screw them.
Yeah.
You know.
Baltimore, have they won any, when did they win?
Oh, it's way back.
83?
83?
Let me double check.
I think it's 83.
And I think it's something else.
There was another.
66 and 70.
That was it?
I believe so, as far as World Series goes.
Wow, how sad is that?
Yeah, in 83.
Man.
In 83, right?
Yeah, those three. The thing is baseball now is is completely different than
what you grew up watching i mean even how they're teaching fundamentals to these baseball players
and i was on like the very early stage of it where they don't talk about takes anymore it's all about
bat speed upward trajectory get that thing out we don't care about how many
strikeouts you have if you got 38 home runs it's all matters baseball has changed all of sports
have really changed because of in america at least because the american product the american owner
does a good job of feeding their consumer they want the consumer to be happy like you look at sports and you look at soccer
it's been the same fucking game forever yeah and and that's why they don't make as much money like
i or the owners you know what i mean the the players make a boatload but as far as when you
look at like i remember i was talking to this international soccer player. He's a legend. He was with Manchester United, Peter Schmeichel, insane goalkeeper.
And he was so fascinated about our stadiums,
how you could have any kind of food you want.
You could have any beer.
Like, you go to a soccer game, no one's moving around anywhere.
Everyone's watching.
He was insanely fascinated with the Jumbotrons.
You get instant
replayed so you you're making the the consumer happy you know what i mean that's what america
does yeah it's capitalism baby yeah and now i just flew over that pitch count we're in or out
i think it's good yeah i mean i think they had to do something because then they were
it was almost as if come on guys it's only good for tv because when you're at the ballpark now like fourth inning about eight beers deep i want another
about 15 i want this thing go to extras it's a beautiful day give me a couple hot dogs it's
eight hour thing jackie why don't you break down this baltimore orioles squad yeah not this historic
day not the most remarkable um O's team of all time.
This was Ripken Jr.
No, it wasn't.
No.
Palmeiro, Ripken Jr.
Palmeiro.
Do we go through, as you listen, you can go Palmeiro.
Steroids.
Yeah.
Bastards.
Perjurers.
And I literally, for years afterwards, said, that was bullshit.
Raffi hit those hits.
He never did any steroids. Oh, yeah hit those hits. He never did any steroids.
Well, yeah, he did.
And so did Brady Anderson.
And we still didn't win.
If you're going to cheat, you've got to win.
That's something you kids out there should learn a lesson.
You got it.
If you're cheating, you better win.
Or it doesn't matter.
It doesn't.
It's worthless.
Amen.
Solid pitching staff and this this year
led by uh mike mucina like you seen who left us future yankees go fuck yourself amen how awful
i hate the yankees yeah so do i but you're boston right well i i for the last 12 years 13 or 15
years you know i've been associated with boston it becomes part of you. Oh, yeah, no, it's really.
And I, you know, and I live in New York, and I have all my friends.
The Yankees, you know, they just, they're irritating.
This was so great this year to be able to shove it in their face.
So they're paying Aaron Hicks' salary, the Yankees, and he's killing them. We won games with Hicks playing against the Yanks, and he really, I was just,
that made me as happy, I think, as anything in my life. How sad is that? killing him we won games with hicks playing against the ants and he really i was just that
made me as happy i think as anything in my life how sad is that it's not that sad it's a happy
thing it's good value i just i don't know it sucks that the yankees hat looks so cool because
it does look cool it does look i've never put one, and I never will. Because even as a Bay Area kid, I mean, you felt the Yankee entitlement
from 3,000 miles away.
Yeah.
I'd be watching these.
I don't know.
You always respected Jeter.
Everyone loves Jeter.
I liked him.
I don't.
The ads kind of.
Huh?
These ads that he's in.
Now, just stop it.
You know, stop it.
You don't want a Wagoneer?
You don't want a Wagoneer right now?
I feel like you see Jeter with his hot model wife, his two beautiful little kids.
He owns a baseball team.
He's driving a Wagoneer going camping.
Yeah, I know.
I feel like I want to go camping now.
Yeah, right.
Give him a call.
Give Baskin?
Tell me what it's like.
Write me a note.
But that thing they had where he goes, just call me the captain.
Yeah.
That just gets under my skin.
That's bad writing.
Because you know he didn't write that.
No, he didn't, and he shouldn't have said it.
I'd gone, just call me.
And that would be better than the captain.
Because, to me, I liked him.
I mean, I do, even as an Oriole fan, I still liked him.
He was a pleasure to watch.
He was a great ball player.
But nobody in the rest of the country knew him as the captain.
He's the captain in New York, so zip it.
You don't get to tell another state you're the captain.
Ludicrous.
Speaking of Jeter, what's your opinion on jeffrey mayor
mayor which one is he i'm not even that was in uh 96 the kid who uh reached over the fence and
and stole the home run away oh yeah in the alcs the next year oh shit against the yankees but
while we're on the topic of the al east lewis who is worse or more insufferable, Boston fans or New York fans?
New York.
New York, okay, I like that.
But Boston, once they won, it just started to get to be jackasses.
And Baltimore, we still don't even have enough people
who've returned to the stadium yet to be asses
because they're still in shell shock from the last 10 years. They're like,
I don't know. I don't know.
Can they be winning? Are they really winning? Is that the score?
It's a simulation.
Last time on this band at two, the Yankees
have left 10 men on base, including the bases
loaded in the seventh. That's a young Jeter.
It's a very young Jeter.
That's a gift bag Jeter right there.
In right field, Tarasco.
Going back to the track.
To the wall.
And what happens here?
He contends that a fan reaches up and touches it.
But Richie Garcia says no.
It's a home run.
Yep.
Everyone's working for the Yankees.
That was really, once again, I'd forgotten him.
And you didn't need to bring that back.
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Should we get over to the angels, the California angels,
the angels in the outfield right here?
Yeah, before we throw in the Bill Buckner clip or something to traumatize me.
What a team.
I used to love that
movie another mildly unremarkable team but yeah the most interesting thing about this team was
that it was a year after angels in the outfield yeah surprisingly good cast mcconaughey adrian
brody and a young joseph gordon levitt who joseph gordon levitt he was the the kid yes
yeah what a cast that was the signal right if if the angel was touching them
yeah but this team uh collapsed down the stretch two nine game losing streaks uh after the all-star
break had jim abbott that was a kind of a forgotten jim abbott era for me yeah and then nobody and
they kind of unbelievable jim at it yeah one hand what a guy yeah they don't they don't you know
he's gone you know they talk about all't, you know, he's gone.
You know, they talk about all of these, you know,
we're trying to get those who have disabilities.
And you got one of the greatest of all times, Jim Abbott.
What are you?
Yeah, incredible.
He's got that thing, he's got the glove.
I mean, the whole thing was nuts.
I couldn't even do it with two hands.
You could have given me four hands.
I couldn't do what Jim Abbott was doing. It's pretty
impressive. What about the guy with the
remember the sprinter with the
legs, the blades, and he murdered
his wife? Yeah.
I think that's kind of an advantage.
Less leg.
Wide thighs?
Yes. But it was pretty amazing
that he could pull that off.
Who was the comic?
Oh, Cat Williams.
Cat Williams.
He had a bit about Ting Ting.
He'd call him Ting Ting.
The lead up to this game, this was all about the record.
Baseball needed something this year.
The fans were pissed about the strike. Players flipping off fans flans flipping off players so this was like uh
some good wholesome let's let's all rally around cal ripken type bill clinton was at the game al
gore was at the game joe damaggio frank robinson johnny you i mean this was a star-studded game
everyone was out i met a huge hero of mine, Mr. Johnny Unitas.
Hell yeah.
And I met him.
Black high tops.
Unbelievable.
I met him at an event.
So you were a Baltimore Colts fan?
At that time, yeah.
At that time.
Yeah.
Until they were stolen.
Belichick got his start there.
1975.
Was a special teams assistant.
Is that right?
Baltimore Colts.
Was Shula coaching? Let me look that up.
What?
It's appalling, my
lack of memory when it comes to things
like that.
My brain just was like,
no, it was somebody else, Lewis, because you're
an idiot. But,
I met Johnny Yu,
as I like to call him,
it was a fundraiser at Duke University.
And so I performed, and afterwards we were all,
there were a whole bunch of folks like him,
athletes and stuff were around, and some others, some celebrities.
But the only one I gave a shit about was Johnnyny unitas and so i was up i went up
to just say hi and to get some wine and he's in line and he gets a bottle of wine and turns around
and i talked to him for a second and i go have a glass of wine and he looks at me and goes do you
want to come back here you want to come back here and get another glass of wine then get up again
and get another glass of wine give the man a bottle and get another glass of wine. Give the man a bottle of wine, okay?
That's what you do.
Take the bottle, all right?
Johnny U.
Johnny United.
Did he have black high tops on when he said that to you?
No, he didn't.
Did he have a flat top?
He did have a flat top.
That he did have, and he handed me that bottle of wine.
Was he a big man?
At that point, he was older.
He was still big.
But his hand was really gnarled. He was still big. I mean, you know, but his hand was really, you know, like gnarled.
I mean, he'd broken probably every finger nine times.
Dude, that's not even football.
That was straight gladiators at that time.
Yeah, especially that team, that line.
Art Donovan was on that line.
Art Donovan, that was the gig.
Art Donovan, the lineman who would go on Johnny Carson.
Yeah.
Two yards in a cloud of dust?
Yeah.
So my dad always threw, like, Johnny Unitas when I was a kid. go on Johnny Carson. Yeah. Two yards in a cloud of dust? Yeah. My dad always threw Johnny Unitas
when I was a kid. He loved Johnny U.
Yeah. The guarantee. We gotta do the guarantee
on this show. The guarantee?
We're getting Joe Namath?
I don't know. We should. I hope so.
We gotta lose. We're good.
Amen. That's all we need. So the star
studied event. Angels lost
four of the last five.
Baseball needs something to attach to.
Yep.
And it's who better?
I mean, this is pretty insane.
Did they win the game?
They did.
Four to two.
Cal had a homer in the fourth.
Oh, yeah.
I do remember that.
He homered.
In a vet?
Did they bring him around in a vet?
Yeah.
I mean, it was 22-minute stoppage.
They went all out.
Cal, you know, he was a humble type, like, milk toast type cat.
He didn't want all this fanfare, but Bobby Bonilla and Palmeiro.
Did you like his dad?
You like his dad?
Cal Ripken Sr.?
Yeah, he was great.
He was good?
Yeah, so was Billy.
Oh, we didn't forget about Billy Ripken.
It was a classic family.
And Cal Ripken is, you know know I mean we weren't winning you know
he became the constant we're not so weak you know it's basically that was what we
were you know okay we he'll get a record that's one thing that's kind of like how
I was very bonds yeah like we weren't all we weren't winning yeah the rally
monkey or the rally monkey came out with the the Angels which is stupid why are
they the Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim now?
I don't get that.
Is that what they're called?
That's what their official name is.
It's too long.
It's a paragraph.
It's two different cities.
I don't understand it.
They're trying to steal the thunder of L.A.?
I don't know.
It's just bizarre.
It would be nice if they got a coach and an owner who could help.
They'd be a much better team.
They would be a very good.
I mean, they have the best player probably ever to suit up anything.
Exactly.
This guy's hitting dingers and throwing out shutouts.
Yeah.
Double headers.
It's crazy.
That Otani.
Yeah, Otani is the most extraordinary.
That's what we all thought Babe Ruth was.
When we picture Babe Ruth, Babe Ruth only pitched for a few years.
And then he went to hitting, you know, and it's a completely different generation.
But still, this is crazy.
What he was doing was crazy.
It just sucks.
Is he going to be able to come back from it?
The UCL?
Yeah.
This is his second one, though, right?
I think.
Yeah.
I hate to see that.
These things are like tires.
It's like NASCAR. Brr, brr. Put on a new one. is second one though right i think yeah i hate to see that things are like tires like nascar
put on a new one so when cal breaks the record after five they give him a 22 minute standing
oh right like are you enjoying that standing no the whole time or is that a little long like
what's our standing no is this deserved a 22 minute standing no if you yeah i think it's
deserved but i don't want to be there for it.
I was just at this Taylor Swift concert with my daughter and her two little friends
on a Wednesday on a school night.
We had like a fucking 22-minute goddamn standing O there.
I'm sitting there like, Taylor, we all love you, but can we get this act going?
And that was before she started or after?
No, it was like in the middle of it.
Like the crowd just started going crazy for no reason,
and she like sat and played it, which she deserved every second of it.
Right, yeah, but it's 22 minutes.
I'm sitting there like, we got school tomorrow.
They're going to be cranky.
Have you ever seen a 6-year-old at 6 o'clock in the morning
with a 35-minute commute?
No, I've avoided that yeah it was really one of the it's one of my things but standing nose well the standing oh i got
not just me but when we did inside out yeah we went to it was one of the great things about it
we were in con yeah for the film festival. They show this fucking cartoon.
And it's a great animation.
But they stood up, and we stood up because they started applauding.
It was a 10 to 12-minute standing ovation.
Like, I think you probably got a little, like, embarrassment at the end.
Or, like, after, like, five minutes?
Yeah, I was ready for food.
Yeah.
Okay, enough.
Let's eat.
Yeah.
A couple.
Yeah.
Who's the Cal Ripken of the comedy space?
You know who came close?
And this was a tip-off for me that I'm not going to do this.
I'm flying, and I think I'm either in grand rapids or detroit on the plane is don rickles
who's like in his 80s and he's going to go do a show and i'm thinking you know and i love him
and on the plane he was spectacular he he kind of knew he knew i was he turned around and just went after me for like 10 minutes you you need
schmuck and you know he's kind of giving me all sorts of and i said the stupid thing to him
i go uh they're doing a documentary about you you know you know and uh i said i just wanted to
apologize to you and as this is coming out of my mouth i know oh what am i saying that i'm not going to be able
to i was i was unable to kind of be able to be there to to uh to they wanted to shoot me for
your documentary and he's and i said i'm sorry i wasn't able to do it he said do you think i give
a shit do you think you were the one who was going to get that documentary of me over the top what is
the matter with you i said said, I'm really sorry.
I said, don't be.
You should really be sorry.
This is one of the most, and he just went on and on and on.
So we get out of the plane.
He's with his tour manager.
It's just the two of them.
And he's going.
From there, he's going to stay in a motel that night
and then get on a plane the next day and fly to Saginaw.
And I turned to the comic I was working with,
John Bowman at the time,
and I said, if I'm 83 years old and I'm doing this,
shoot me.
Just shoot me.
Bring me down.
Bring me down like a buffalo that's strayed too far.
No, I am not doing this.
But he was going and going.
And then also you look at George Burns.
He's Cal Ripken.
Who's his Kevin Costner?
Wow.
Wow, wow, wow.
Wow.
That is, that may be the most insane thing anyone has ever said to me.
And I could sit here for a week and not come up with an answer.
I mean, you're going to marinate on that back. I am. I'm going to call you later. I'm going to call you later. And I could sit here for a week and not come up with an answer.
I mean, you're going to marinate on that bad boy. I am.
I'm going to call you later.
I'm going to call you later.
I'm going to put it on a little iPhone thing going, I figured it out.
You said it to me.
We'll put it on the show.
Yeah.
This is Kevin Costner.
I mean.
Well, Don Rickles, Kevin Costner.
Jesus.
Who would that be?
If he's Cal Ripken, of course.
Yeah.
No, if he's Cal Ripken, it's Kevin Costner.
It would have to be somebody in their 70s.
So I have no idea.
But if I think of it, I'll let you know.
You'll be the first one I call.
Perfect, perfect, perfect.
Is this the greatest streak in sports history?
I think my not playing any sports is the greatest streak in sports history?
I think my not playing any sports is the greatest streak in sports history.
But I could have gone pro in anything, and I said no.
And the fact that I didn't is really the greatest streak.
People talk about it time and again.
If he'd not gone into comedy, he would have been a great cricket player.
Cricket, actually, I think the third most popular sport in the world.
You pulled that out of your ass.
Jack, let me see here.
That is really... What is it?
It's huge in the UK, South Africa, and India.
How many people are in India?
In India, they love it there.
Cricket is number two.
Oh!
No.
Oh!
Estimated 2.5 billion fans.
2.5 billion?
You don't even want to know what number three is.
Three is croquet.
Close.
Field hockey.
You've got to be kidding me.
What's one?
Soccer.
Soccer.
Oh, yeah.
Schmuck.
Boy, what's one?
Idiot. What am I? I'm amuck. Boy, what's one? Idiot.
What am I?
I'm a moron.
I mean.
Field hockey.
When was the last time you said, boy, I can't wait for the marching hares to come to town
and they play such great field hockey.
Yeah, and I don't, I remember the field hockey team at Kent State.
Then it was women.
Yeah, it was women.
And it was great to watch.
I did go to those i dated one
of them i think kind of yeah a little bit i really can't believe cricket have you ever watched cricket
for how long i've watched cricket for eight minutes i've never watched cricket it's it's
it's tough you know they go way overhand i saw there's like a disney movie about a cricket player
that tried to become a baseball player wow that's my yeah no i read the spark notes jack what do we got on the aftermath just
uh just to put this streak into perspective real quick cal played with 150 different teammates
eight different managers uh played both shortstop and third base Spanned from 82 to 98. Perfect. And then he stayed with that.
2,632 career teams.
One team.
And for a little bit of a pop culture context on that,
the entirety of Seinfeld happened during the streak.
The entirety of Seinfeld happened?
89 to 98.
He was streaking.
He was streaking.
Did you come up with that?
I just did a little research before the show.
Wow.
I mean, did somebody actually write that down, or did you figure that out?
Oh, I just kind of did my own math.
If he figured it out, I'm hiring him away from you.
Hell yeah.
Hey, name your price on there, Lewis.
He did also, he did have a theory.
Did you go to school?
Oh, yeah.
We were doing our years here.
Yeah, let's hear it.
Were you and Larry David in College Park at the same time?
No
One year apart
The ages were close and I knew you went for one year
I don't think we were there at the same time
Okay that would have been epic
You know no
Just had to double check
Which is too bad it could have turned my career around
I would have been Seinfeld
I would have watched
I had a different Seinffeld than what i'd be so did you have a fucking bullshit and nonsense and
fucking bullshit you know that would be my seinfeld no suit for you yeah really
how about what is cal ribkin's legacy in Baltimore? Like you're a Baltimore guy.
His legacy is it's like him, Brooks Robinson, Johnny United.
There's a pantheon of those guys.
Is he above Johnny U?
No.
No.
They're all kind of equivalent.
So the Mount Rushmore.
Is Cal, Johnny U, Brooks. R.I.i.p there's another one who's the fourth probably i mean uh
palmero but maybe i was just gonna say maybe jim palmer yeah he was a great pitcher i mean he's
he was another mainstay who was there forever. I mean, I'm also talking about guys which doesn't exist anymore.
You did it, right?
I mean, you played with those guys forever.
Staying with a team is unusual at this point.
And all of the guys that were greats at Baltimore all stayed.
Yeah.
You know.
Don't do that no more.
Because once you're in Baltimore, why would you want to go anywhere else?
Baltimore's a cool city, though.
It is.
I love it.
There you get rowdy.
You know, and there's some great places,
and the greatest crab cakes on earth are there.
If you were the commissioner of the MLB right now,
what's one rule you would change or establish?
What pisses you off the most?
You know what bothers me the most is that we're going to start with the man in second base.
We finished the ninth inning.
Now we're going to start with the man in second.
No.
No.
No.
Did he get to second?
No.
And you pick him because he was the last guy up or the guy who was coming up next?
No.
Bullshit.
Second off.
No.
You play it out. Okay okay and i don't care
if you go 22 innings that's the game at least keep that part of the game you have to win by winning
okay yeah it's one thing in football all right where you can okay let's bash our heads for
another you know continue to play no but this you know you have enough pitchers you know bullshit bullshit
can't get cte from swinging a bat no and it's no and you can't all you can get is tired and i it's
just ruined it's i just think and i look at it it's like lunis i don't i just irritates me what
would you change pitch clock you don't like it, huh?
Wow.
No, I like the routines of what guys were doing before.
You get in, you give some of this, you stop them a little bit, you come back.
No, I'm not ready yet.
You come back.
Like, there was always a game I used to play sometimes
when I was going in the batter's box with the pitcher.
Now I'm back.
Hey, ref, blue.
Put my things on.
It was an intimidation fact.
Now we got a time limit on intimidation?
Yeah.
Well, because it...
And also, I like going to the games.
I want to be longer, so I got 18 beers.
Well, you could do that.
You could have seven beforehand.
They stop after the seventh.
Yeah, well, drink seven before you get there.
Maybe nine.
It doesn't feel right.
I need to feel the sun soaking my beer out of me
while I'm drinking it.
Wow.
The pitch clock I like only because it became too much.
Yeah, I get it.
You know what I mean?
Or you could have people.
Fucking no more.
You know what else?
You know what I would say?
I would agree with you.
You could only do that.
The batter can only do that.
Each batter once.
And you can pull that shit once.
The rest of the time, get in there and shut the fuck up.
Actually, I'm going back.
No.
I'm changing my rule.
What?
You got to be able to take out the catcher.
Yes.
I mean, that was the coolest thing about baseball.
Wow.
Pete Rose in the All-Star Game taking out a goddamn catcher?
Yeah.
I mean, that's the one time you get to see a hit.
That or, you know, a fight.
Take out the catcher.
Remember they used to take out the catcher?
Oh, yeah.
Well, what's his name?
Who's the guy in the Giants?
Posey.
Yeah, Posey.
Posey got broke.
He broke his ankle.
Yeah, you know.
And I don't want that to happen to Rushman.
I don't either, but.
I can't have Rushman get hurt.
He can't, but it, you know, that's what brings the lore of being a major leaguer.
This guy, he may take on a dude.
You're going to see little Charlie running down the sideline
or down third base, and he comes in like, nah.
I want to see Chuck take his head off.
Will this streak ever be broken?
I don't think so.
No.
No shot.
Not nowadays.
No, and I don't think the way it goes, nobody cares.
Yeah.
Load management, too.
They're not letting pitchers pitch anymore.
They stop them at the sixth.
I mean, none of that.
All of that bothers me, too, that they're not letting a guy.
Load management, they call it. Yeah. That's crazy. Analytics. Yeah, analytics. none of that all of that bothers me too that they're not letting a guy load management they
call it yeah that's crazy analytics yep analytics it's bullshit analytics yep it's just about
analytics got a the meter went a little too analytically yeah it did and it's and it's crazy
and if i'd known that i would have majored in math oh you were caring you you're doing ages right
there you know a couple
minutes ago and i was like he's carrying a couple twos there i don't i don't know if you're gonna
math major right there so yeah no i'm not you stick to the writing yeah you're right
so you're known for your your rants what's what's your greatest rant of all time that you
are just so proud of?
TV, anything?
And don't ask me to remember what it was, but it's findable.
The one, it was one that it took me a while. There's four or five things I did, but when they put Janet Jackson's breast on the nipple,
the nipple caper.
How, what year was that?
That was JT.
And I flipped out.
And so I just, and that's what I went off on.
Nobody, you know, it's like.
Yeah, 04.
04.
It was horrifying.
I was literally sitting, we were in LA, sitting in a friend's house i was this close to the tv
and uh if not closer i watched the whole fucking halftime show you never saw her nipple okay and
i'm a guy who would look for that immediately i'm not fooling around i don't have time you show a
nip i'm gonna be there to watch the nip okay Okay? Never saw it. So to me, it was like, you're
out of your minds. And then I literally just went nuts the first time I went on stage. And then it
was just taking, I was going, going. Not only did, what really was disturbing was the fact that they
kept saying, well, this is horrible. This is just awful. Let's see it again. This is awful. Let's
see it again. Can we see that again? Look at that thing. It's disgusting.
That nipple just appeared out there. This is not the kind of, let's see it again. And they just kept showing it, showing it, showing it. And so I went off and then eventually carved it all
together. And I loved doing it. And I kept that bit, but way too long, probably to 2007.
Three years of the nipple bit. I like a nice nipple bit. It was good.
It's good.
Jack, did we miss anything?
No, we were pretty clean this episode.
The one thing we were looking up during the thing was,
it was Ted Marchabrodas was Bill Belichick's head coach
when he got his start in Baltimore.
Ted Marchabrodas.
Do you remember him?
No.
Well, you know.
I thought you were like the history of football in the state. Yeah.
But he was Baltimore. Another great one.
Bay Area football pre my career.
Yeah. I know.
No, I mean it is nuts.
That's Kezar time.
That's a long time ago.
That's right. Kezar Stadium.
I played a high school game there.
Did you really? Yeah, that's where they used to play like games and shit. That's right. Keyser Stadium. I played a high school game there. Did you really?
Yeah, that's where they used to play games and shit.
That must have been fun.
So fun.
This is an old-looking, old-time stadium in the city.
It was in the city, right?
Yeah.
I never saw that stadium.
So we named the game.
What is this game?
21-31?
Or the Iron Man game?
What do you think?
What game? What name should this game be31? Or the Ironman game? What do you think? What game?
What name should this game be?
Oh, the Ironman game.
Ironman game.
Perfect.
Now, we do this thing where we score the game.
Is this the greatest game of all time?
Do I get cash from this to be able to play in Vegas?
We can.
We can.
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Is this the greatest game of all time?
Let's score it.
Stakes.
What are the stakes of this game?
Not very high.
Not high at all.
So what is that?
Zero out of ten?
Three.
Three.
Yeah, that sounds about right.
Fair, fair.
The stake is only really the the streak yeah
star power yeah i mean al gore is there al gore yeah you know and he and he's you know right
and he made uh you know that was his first uh climate change move i'm gonna go to the game
i'm not gonna watch it on tv i'm gonna save electricity um star power i would say seven eight seven point
eight seven eight seven eight yeah seven or eight let's go eight well seven point eight we'll do
seven point seven point eight i like that two points the game player this thing you remember
that i mean it's a baseball game the fact that he hit the homer is pretty impressive. Yeah. The dinger.
Yeah.
That's huge.
In the street game.
Lou Gehrig was there.
Yeah.
And,
or his family was there,
right?
His family was there,
I think.
And the doctor who discovered Lou Gehrig's disease.
He's an important man.
So I think it's the homer.
So what do we got?
One out of 10.
What do you think? I would say probably like homer. So what do we got? One out of 10. What do you think?
I would say probably like a seven.
This is your show.
No, that's all right.
I'll take the seven.
Seven. Yeah.
If he had two homers, I'd put it at 10.
Yeah.
There you go.
Name?
The Ironman game.
Right.
What is the score of that name?
Zero out of 10.
That's a pretty good name.
It's a good name, and it's a solid name
and I give it a nine five. Nine five.
Oh nice. Let's see what our
The Iron Man. The Iron
Fuck Fuck Man game
would have been a ten.
Are we talking? 6.825
Where does it rank?
That puts us right
in between
the. Oh look at this. The Manning seven in between the Manning 7,
where Peyton Manning threw seven touchdowns in a week one game,
and right above the Nuggets-Lakers 2009 Western Conference Finals.
I don't know.
Would you agree with that?
I don't know.
Well, at least we're ahead of Gilbert Arenas in a 60-point game.
And it should be ahead of Gilbert Arenas, I think, being found.
Wasn't he the one with the gun?
He was.
He and Javaris Crittenton in the locker room.
A little bit of a duel.
That's where you need a gun.
And they weren't even called the Bullets anymore.
That's another.
There's a piece of shit.
Take a name, the Bullets, away and call any team the Wizards.
Talk about a fruity name.
That's fruity.
Yeah.
Wizards is different.
Different?
That's being nice.
It's awful.
They're not magicians.
I barely have basketball players.
Lewis, I grew up watching and reading Harry Potter.
I love Wizards.
Wow.
Yeah.
Wow.
Jesus.
Wow. I really, I can't look in your eyes when you say stuff like that
oh his stand-up special tragically i need you is streaming on youtube you got to catch him on
off the rails tour at a city near you anything else you want to plug i want to plug my uh i have a rant cast i
read rant cast read rants where do we find this how do we how do we listen to these rants well
because it's on wherever wherever fine brands are found um there's uh you know i guess it a whole
foods um no it's uh apple i think we're apple yeah. I don't know if we're on Spotify, but Apple for sure.
And you know what?
Cut to the chase.
Go to lewisblack.com and you'll find it there.
That's where everyone here is going to go.
Yeah.
I see them leaping from their seats.
There's only three of us here.
I jumped out, but I'm quick.
Quicker than fast.
But that's really but what's
what's fun about that is to be able i do i talk at the beginning about whatever happened that week
which is always the same i'm beginning to notice it's always the fucking same and i'm supposed to
make jokes about the same shit again and again and again it's exhausting so it's basically like
a current event rant yeah i do kind of a current event or what, like I'll talk about us meeting.
Yeah.
I wish.
I wish.
And I'll give you a plug.
I wish it was around when I was a kid because I probably would have just used it in my world
studies class and on Thursdays and Fridays because we always needed a political event
and I would just would have presented you.
That'd be good.
But I'd do that.
Mr. Gregory would have hated me even more.
Well, I bet he likes you now.
Maybe.
Yeah.
I don't think he watched sports.
Really?
Yeah.
Yeah, so I read rants to other people.
So if you've got something you want to complain about, send me a rant.
I'll read it.
But no, I don't want you to read it.
I want you to rant it.
Oh, I will.
Don't worry.
I literally scream through most of these.
Well, thank you for doing Games with Names. It's a pleasure. And I'm going to come back because I want scream through most of these. Well, thank you for doing games with names.
It's a pleasure.
And I'm going to come back because I want to win this fucking thing.
What was 10 again?
Show me that fucking thing.
Mavericks versus Heat.
I can beat that game.
That was tough.
That's just because Mark Cuban was here.
He rigged the books.
He put the scores up.
Oh, did he put the scores up?
Yeah, he gave everything a 10.
Wow. Not fair. Except gameplay he gave everything a 10. Wow.
Not fair.
Except gameplay.
Except gameplay, yeah.
Wow.
That's unbelievable.
I mean, if you think about it, though, it's a smart marketing move.
Yeah.
Because now we're talking about the Mavericks.
Yeah.
The Louis Black.
Now everyone's coming here.
Oh, what's number one?
Yeah.
The Mavericks.
So I'm going to pitch him a couple things.
I know I told him I'd never pitch him anything
Are you?
No
I'm going to pitch him
Awesome
That's a show
It was fun
It was a lot of fun
Man that was an awesome episode
He's a legend
Lewis is a beast
So glad to have him
You got to think about it that was an awesome episode he's a legend insane lewis is a beast so glad to have him he knew his
shit you got to think about it guy's been on tv for 40 odd years i mean some of the names he was
dropping and didn't start comedy until like 40 something him and rodney dangerfield like that's
insane i was pissed he hadn't he didn't meet rodney though i was waiting for a good rodney story
hey hey i don't yeah you know sam did a really good sam did a great Rodney story. I know, whatever. Hey, hey, I don't, yeah. You know, Sam did a really good Rodney. Oh, Sam did a great Rodney, bro.
He had a really good Rodney.
Hey, my wife called me.
She said, there's nobody home.
I went over.
There was nobody home.
Yeah, see.
Rodney.
So Leah has a little gripe.
Yeah.
She's from Baltimore.
Our producer, Leah.
She thinks it should be 21-31, not the Ironman game.
And she couldn't believe he didn't know Jeffrey Mayer off the top of the head
The little kid, that little kid
Who remembers losers?
Hadn't won it since 83
Who was the other guy?
If it was like the Buckner guy
Or who was Noah? What's his name?
The guy from Chicago
Bartman
The irony, Jules, if you're saying who remembers losers wearing a Red Sox hat is
because you just mentioned Bill
Buckner. They were losers. I don't remember that.
I don't know what you're talking
about.
Should we get into our post-show segment?
What's our post-show segment, Jack?
As we talk, we do an episode here.
We dedicated this episode to
a game that broke a record.
Iron Man game. Great great record i thought it
was apropos to talk top five most unbeatable records in all of sports what do you think
let's do it let's do it let's do it uh you're gonna rattle some of these off i think we can
i mean we all know joe dimaggio coming out of the Jumping Joe 56 I think we can come to a top 5 here
I love
There's like the black and white footage of him coming out of like the paper sheet
Remember that?
Yeah high school football style
And here comes Joe DiMaggio
News old news real footage
You know
I love it
Oh my god Joe DiMaggio. News old newsreel footage. Yeah, I love it. The old announcer, oh, my God, Joe DiMaggio came through the paper.
Will he break the record today, folks?
I mean, legendary.
You got Cal Ripken's insane 2,632.
2,131, dude.
2,131, but hey.
Leo will get mad.
300-something.
300-something after that, though.
Gretzky, 51 consecutive games with a point.
Pretty impressive.
But is that a goal or is that just a point?
I think an assist counts as a point.
I know, see.
That's not.
I'm not a hockey guy.
Not me neither.
But I lived in a fucking hockey town.
You did.
We both did.
And I won championships in that town with the hockey people there.
Tyler Sagan hanging out with sagan well
sagan jesus we gotta get him on oh my god the stories that guy would have oh my god uh back to
consecutive unbeatable records i mean i'm partial to you know i'm a hoops guy celtics eight straight
58 to 66 eight straight titles who's ever gonna do that again no one
i granted the nba is different nowadays but yeah that's different eight in a row ucla i don't want
recency bias so i'm not saying anything ucla men's basketball 88 consecutive wins pretty crazy john
wooden theory john wooden theory bill walton 15 minutes if you're if you're on time you're late
15 minutes early kids what a wise man pyramid of success wise man yeah le're late. 15 minutes early, kids. What a wise man. A pyramid of success.
Wise man.
Yeah, Lewis was 30 minutes early today.
Dude.
He would have been starting point guard for John Wooden.
He would have been.
And he said that's the biggest streak he's ever heard.
Him never playing anything in athletics.
He's really a lifetime of no athletics.
He's still streaking to this day.
Our little Globetrotters, they've won 2,495 straight wins over the Washington Generals.
Impressive, but kind of.
Who's the Washington Generals? That's like the team that they travel with that they just beat up on.
So, I mean, it's a scripted record, but still impressive.
It's a lot of nights.
The Generals did beat them one night, though.
I did watch the Harlem Globetrotters once.
Me too.
I forgot where I saw it, though.
Yeah, I saw them once.
My dad took me to see them.
My dad did, too.
Belcarino.
What was the...
What's the song?
Do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.
Uh-uh?
Nah, that sounds like more Andy Dick. Yeah, I'm doing Andy Griffith. What the fuck? Andy Dick. Andy Griff like more Andy Dick.
Yeah, I'm doing Andy Griffith.
What the fuck?
Andy Dick.
Andy Griffith.
Why was I doing Mayberry?
Jeez Louise.
It has like the basketball dribbling in the background.
Yeah, the Meadowlark Lemon, all that swag.
What am I doing?
Damn, dude.
I really did just do Mayberry.
Now I'm just thinking about Don Knotts playing for him.
What if Don Knotts was a globetrotter?
Tiger Woods, 142 is pretty crazy.
That'll never be done again.
That'll never be done again.
How many years is that?
That's a lot of years.
I mean.
Jerry Rice, 274 consecutive games with the catch.
Jerry.
Man.
Did he play, though?
Like, he didn't miss a game?
Or is that, how does that work i mean he had
like three careers yeah i think they're only counting games he played in i remember he was
just racking up i went to a touchdown party like i think he beat like i was on a pop warner team
and jerry rice just beat like a touchdown record i think it was like 77 or whatever that was
was it that i don't want to say i remember
there was hats i had a hat i had like a little jerry rice guy and the number of and we were
like the merch huh that is some valuable merch it sounds like i don't think i have it anymore but
uh we were like the pop corner team that had to go out and like jerry rice we brought this
redwood city 49er football team to commemorate you, dude.
And we're like, yeah.
Our little RC jackets.
We're going to meet Jerry Rice.
Dude, just the pairing of words, touchdown party, sounds awesome.
I like that combo of words.
Touchdown party.
We went to a touchdown party.
Man, it was cool.
It was over in like Erlingame at a hotel.
And Jerry made an appearance.
Yeah, it was his party.
Oh, that's so sick.
It was like an award they were giving him for something.
It may have been touchdown.
Don't fact check me.
But I think there was a number on a hat that I got with the Jerry Rice guy on it.
If anyone out there was at that event and still has that hat,
there's probably some like 40 year old guy that i was
there with when we were both like 12 like send the picture over dude guaranteed ebay ebay msrp
on that thing is probably at least 400 bucks plus what what else do we got we got we got
the the hurdles edwin m. This was 77 to 87.
400 meter hurdles.
Didn't lose a race from
77 to 87. That's got to make the top
five. A decade?
A decade in track and field.
Man. I know
Kyler's very partial. Speaking of records
to Mario Lemieux's five goals in five ways.
He's got to explain that.
I don't know how to do that. Let's hear it. He's on the wall. Okay, so Mario Lemieux's five goals in five games. He's got to explain that. I don't know how to do that.
Let's hear it.
He's on the wall.
Okay, so Mario Lemieux's five goals in five games. Let's hear it from the guy who's from western Massachusetts
that supports the Penguins.
All right, keep going.
My parents lived in Pittsburgh, and I like the animal.
Wait, where were they born?
Boston area.
Oh, and then they went and had a cup of coffee in Pittsburgh on a date.
Yeah.
And you like the animal penguin.
I like the animal, yeah.
They waddle.
They waddle, yeah.
But Mario-
They slide.
They slide.
Mario Lemieux has five goals in five different ways.
So in hockey, you can score a goal in five different ways, right?
So there's even strength, five on five.
There's penalty kill, so you're down a man, so it's four on five on your team.
There is power play, so it's five to four on you're down you're down a man so it's four on five on your team there is power play so it's five four on you're up right there's also an empty net goal with the goal he pulled
and then there's also a um a penalty shot so you know a penalty happened so um he was able to score
the amount of times five goals to score in an hl game is super rare to begin with maybe two three
times a season tops.
And then this has never happened and it'll never happen again.
To put it in perspective, Brad Marchand did this recently in a season.
In a season, right?
One or two guys a year can do this in a season.
He did it in a game?
He did it in one singular game.
Not only did he score five goals, which rarely happens,
he scored five goals in five years.
And he played a long time.
He played.
He had an injury-shortened career.
But yeah, he was around for a while.
But a lot of it's just opportunity.
So what?
How old was he until he retired?
Like 38?
So he retired in 2000 because he had some back issues.
And then he came back.
How old was he?
He retired in 96 and came back in 2001.
30s?
He took five years off.
Yeah.
Because he had like Hodgkin's lymphoma and he had a bad back and then whatever
whatever whatever. He took five years off. Was he
productive when he came back? Yeah. He was a
point a game player and
he owned the team at the time. Yeah I remember
that. Yeah so it's
purely not even just from a skill level it's opportunity
right? There's not many penalty shots. So you're
basically saying that's a lightning type
record. It'll never happen again. Ever. Ever
ever ever. No it's getting struck's a lightning-type record. It'll never happen again. Ever. Ever, ever, ever.
No, it's getting struck by a lightning-twice-type record.
Yeah.
It's not just skill.
Skill's involved because not a lot of players score five points.
But no, it's kind of like you have to get struck by lightning twice.
All right, enough sucking off, Mario Lemieux.
You want to rank these bad boys?
We've got to talk about Lance, bro.
Seven straight Tour de France wins?
Okay, so I'm also a big Tour de France guy.
You're touching my two niches.
This will happen because there's been numerous
guys who've got five. Right now
with Teddy Pagaccia and
Jonas Vindegaard, they're young
guys that could win. Maybe in a row, a row
was tough, but I suspect
there'll be a guy who wins seven tours in the future.
That was pretty crazy.
I had the yellow band.
Love Lance. Love him. What a guy.
Great guy. Just a good guy.
Alright, top five.
Should we rank these bad boys?
Just compile a top five. I don't think in any
particular order. No, must rank them.
Must rank them. Okay, must rank them.
With what you just pitched me on with Mario Lemieux.
Jesus Christ, that's got to be in the top five.
Five goals in five ways.
Kyle Ripken's in there.
That's fucking crazy.
As Lewis said, have you done anything 2,632 times?
No.
No?
No. Joe DiMaggio, how many times have No. No? No.
Joe DiMaggio, how many times have they gotten close?
Who's gotten closest?
To the hits?
Yeah.
I don't know why, but that sticks out to me. I think number two is going to be Willie Keeler
of the Baltimore Royals.
45 games.
Oh, my God.
That was back in the 1800s.
1896. Yeah, geez louise and then pete rose charlie hustle 78 he got to 44 games in a row we gotta get pete rose on to be tight bro
last time i bet you we could get pete rose on oh my god just gotta if you go to the nearest
autograph table at some random sportsman or billy store yeah just sit in line
for him he will be there my reds jersey and say hey pete say hey kid i know he's not willie
bayes um he's always sitting behind the table signing something somewhere you wanna do my
podcast dude we gotta get him in here byron nelson though who's who is ever gonna win 11
straight pga tour events that's never gonna broken. When was that done? 1945.
See, you know what?
I mean, they've been running time.
And is it still?
I mean, that's tough.
Still stands.
11 straight.
That's a good number.
I think we got to get Tiger Woods on there, too.
Got to put Tiger.
That's just crazy.
The longevity.
I mean, 10 years without losing hurdles is tough.
Edwin, we got to put Edwin.
10 years.
I mean, just taxing on your body.
Yes.
Crazy.
All right, so we.
That's our top five.
That's our top five. Let the comments.
I want to hear what they think.
Hell yeah.
And then we'll do a post.
Give us, just so everyone's clear at home, give us these top five.
Out of our fives.
Yeah.
Not out of all the fives.
These fives.
Our fives.
Our five.
Of the most unbeatable records.
Yes.
Give us these ones just to clear it up for the people at home.
Our top five are Edwin Moses,
122 consecutive 400-meter hurdle wins.
10 years.
Didn't lose.
Cal Ripken Jr., 2,632 consecutive games played.
Even got a game canceled because of Kevin Costner.
Got the lights.
Joey DiMaggio, 56 consecutive games with a hit.
Guy had a killer eye.
Monroe?
Oh.
That was his girl.
That's bad.
He must have ate his carrots.
Bad.
Tiger Woods, 142 straight PGA cuts made.
Did that go?
Yep.
We'll keep that at that because we might get him on here.
I want to ask him.
I love Tiger.
Tiger will come on.
I want to talk about when he had the broken knee and won the U.S. Open.
Mind over matter, baby.
Tough.
And Mario Lemieux.
Five goals in five ways in one game.
Insane.
Insane.
Struck by lightning twice.
That's a top five.
That is a great top five.
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