Games with Names - 50th Game Rescoring Extravaganza & First Annual Gamey Awards!
Episode Date: May 9, 2024We're righting our scoring wrongs! That's right, we're rescoring our first 50 games to find a new number one on our first ever Games with Names Rescoring Extravaganza. We'll talk about our highs and l...ows from the first 50 games. We'll walk through our all new patented scoring system. We'll take fan suggestions and scoring gripes from the hotline. We'll unveil the new top 50. We'll give at the first annual Gamey Awards. Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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We've had 13 Hall of Famers, 56 total guests.
We've covered a game in every decade for the last 50 years.
50 years!
We are going to unveil our new top 50 games.
Rolling up the sleeves to revamp this whole scoring system.
Let's talk about scoring.
I have no problem being the asshole, right?
And saying Reggie Bush, this regular season game
against Reginald Snape, perhaps is not a 10.
Stakes 0-10.
10.
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shut the f*** up.
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You're tapping a nerve here.
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There we go. And then we will wrap back up. Let's tear it down and build it back up. There we go.
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And the winner is...
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Welcome to Games with Names.
Today, fellas and ladies, we are celebrating our 50th game
with a very special rescoring extravaganza episode.
The stars are out.
Stars are out.
The red carpet's out.
What are these awards for?
These are for participation, baby.
Okay, we'll see.
Maybe we'll get into it in the show.
We'll get into the show.
Today we're going to be rolling up the sleeves
to revamp this whole scoring system.
We got change coming.
Change is going to come.
Finally.
If you can change,
then I can change. Everybody can change I can change Everybody can change
The score
As you guys can see with the
T-shirt
We'll each state our case for scoring
Changes and doing our best
To keep it from coming
To blows
No promises
As you guys can see We can save it from coming to blows. No promises. No promises.
As you guys can see.
Kyler's all fired up.
We can save it.
We can save it. We'll save.
You guys maybe will see what Kyler is wearing.
And then we get at the end,
we are going to unveil our new top 50 games,
including a new number one.
A new number one game.
New, new.
New, new.
Throughout the show, we'll be taking plenty of calls from the hotline.
Hotline, baby.
And then we will wrap it up with our first annual Gamey Awards.
That's what the awards are for.
There they are.
Sneak peek.
Can you believe we've gotten 50 games in, fellas?
Insane.
And ladies?
Here's to 50 more.
50 more.
That's right.
Our quest is to find the greatest game of all time.
The GOG, baby.
The greatest of all games.
Let's go.
Let's go.
Let's go.
May 7th, 2024.
Nuthouse Studio, Brentwood, California.
After 50 legendary games, we're finally fixing what's broken.
This is the Game with Names Restoring Extravaganza.
Let's reflect on these 50 games, Kyler.
It's been wild.
There's been scores of integrity.
A lot of scores of non-integrity.
And there's been scores... A lot of sandbagging happening.
A lot of sandbagging.
Sons of bitches.
Yeah.
Yeah, we'll get into that.
But let's, like, because we're recording this just a week before it's
releasing usually with a little bit more time like let's catch up on some of the stuff that's
been going on like uh some like the live show like i don't think we've ever really talked about it
sold out two two shows in 45 minutes live shows awesome fast approaching and we've got some i
don't want to i don't want to say the guests we have but there's some there's some good ones
current pats potentially yeah there's some good ones. Current Pats, potentially.
Yeah, there's some good ones.
And we're currently creatively figuring out what it's going to be, too.
It's been fun.
So fans, if you have any ideas, we're open to suggestions.
Hit up the voicemail.
We got to make that thing look like a KISS concert.
I'm talking light show.
I'm talking smoke machines.
Did you see the Kelsey Brothers live show?
No, I didn't.
Don't watch it because we'll never,
we won't just,
we won't meet that expectation.
It was like a WWE event.
They had pyrotechnics.
They had fire.
They had like mud wrestling.
Bro, I'll come in there
like stone cold.
Maybe I'll throw
one top baby.
They can't got nothing
on me.
Sorry, Kelsey.
They had full live show.
Yeah, it was wild.
Fireworks.
It was smoke.
Yeah.
We got that. I regret that I brought it up. We got a fireworks guy in Boston. We got a was wild. Fireworks. It was smoke. Yeah. We got that.
I regret that I brought it up.
We got a fireworks guy in Boston.
We got a smoke guy in Boston.
We'll be good.
Jack's going to come out.
We got some smoke people in Boston.
We might need a GoFundMe.
We get t-shirt guns.
We'll have cheerleaders.
You name it.
We'll be on the aisles crowd surfing.
It's going to be live.
It's going to be hype.
It's going to be fire.
We'll show them how Boston does it.
We'll show them how we do it, baby.
The Wilbur.
Boston and all the people that are fans of the shows that are coming,
traveling from a lot of different areas.
Germany.
Germany.
There's a fan from Germany coming.
What?
Yeah.
Take it to Deutschland.
Yeah.
Von Heiken.
That's tight, bro.
That's squirrel.
Von Heiken.
Mom!
We'll get it. We'll get it next time next time dude also you we haven't done it yet but when this episode comes out so now you will have just done the netflix roast of
tom brady so we were just writing jokes now there's some fun stuff there's some killers out
there hopefully it does well but we'll we'll recap that coming up in this window we're all recording but this is a what do
you say a psa public service public service uh yeah all these are jokes we'll be up here roasting
maybe jokes yeah and if you bomb we'll just cut this out of the show no but they're jokes
they're jokes that's what people need to realize yeah it's coming from a place of love jokes are
funny yeah the jokes can get ruthless
do you have you have a favorite episode we've done so far favorite episode i loved the ernie
episode that whole because we flew them out or probably shouldn't say that because another
guess we're gonna want that but uh not everyone's getting ernie treatment bro back corner booth
ernie eaten that was fun incredible thought Slate was an awesome episode.
Slate was great.
He's fun.
Well, I wish he had his inhaler when he was here.
I actually was going through some stuff.
The Patriots sent me a box of stuff when I retired,
and I got a mix of a bunch of different things.
So for a lot of guys, James Devlin,
I'm sending you a box of things
and you're going to be,
there's going to be so many great memories in there
that I've had for two years now.
But one of the things that I stole
and I'm not sending back
is one of Matthew Slater's inhalers.
It's right there on the wall.
That inhaler, I saw him every day before practice
and I would make fun of him.
For a while, he had that like,
there's like an extension piece.
The spacer.
The spacer.
Sometimes he'd be pulling the spacer.
The chaser.
Otherwise, the medicine just hits you right in the back of the throat.
Pause.
Pause.
Yeah.
And you're not getting it into the lungs.
No, did he?
No, did he?
As an albuterolism, I know.
We got to bronze that thing.
It's sick.
I've got a hot take.
Is Slater the greatest of all time Rexpec inhaler kid? Ooh. I don't know. We're going bronze that thing. I've got a hot take. Is Slater the greatest of all time rec spec inhaler kid?
Ooh.
I don't know.
We're going to have to.
He's certainly got a strong case.
I don't know any other ones, so I think he is.
But for everyone out there, can we get some suggestions in the comments on who's the best?
All time rec spec inhaler guy.
Rec spec inhaler guy.
Rec spec inhaler guy. That inhaler guy that's what we
need to know so ernie's your favorite episode you think i love terry was fun terry was great
terry bradshaw by the way just had a fox retreat with him terry don't even know how to play dice
he was on them dice the craps table for about 50 minutes hitting hard eights hard fours I mean he must have hit four or five
hards it was insane it was so fun only Terry Bradshaw hard ways baby you're a hard ways guy
love the hard ways in gambling and in life there's been some hard ways there's been some hard ways
Jack do you have a favorite episode I would say Ernie was awesome just because that's like an A1.
Super special.
We flew him out.
Terry was incredible.
I got to say, back in our Canal Street days,
getting Jared Zebranski and Adrian Peterson on the screen at the same time.
I know they zoomed in. But just having those two Peterson on the screen at the same time. I know they zoomed in,
but just having those two guys in our presence at the same,
like I was like,
holy shit,
we made this happen.
Yeah.
It was like the second one we ever did.
I was like,
this is crazy.
Well,
Jack,
Jack has a term that's like the elevator pitch games.
Yep.
And like,
that was our elevator pitch game for a while.
It really was.
We had to start conceptualizing the show,
the like Statue of Liberty game and trying to get,
we've since moved on from it now a little bit just because scheduling is a pain but try to get players on
each side and like that was just a cornerstone thing and that was awesome to happen wow we can
really do this thing i mean there's an elephant in the room i'm missing something here yeah i'm
missing something is he not probably the most jack ginger you've ever seen in that damn zoom interview i actually was jack gingers he was he's
yoked zembranski was yoked he's living the zembranski life right now i mean i saw the veins
he came jacked and pumped baby wait now i'm trying to think of jack gingers does connor
mcgregor count i don't think he's not really ginger you're kind of gingery your beard is
i know but i'm not jacked andrew santino he's in shape but he's a ginger. He's not really ginger. You're kind of gingery. Your beard is. I know, but I'm not jacked.
Andrew Santino, he's in shape, but he's a comedian, so he's not that jacked. Oh, who's the pale-ass dude from WWE?
Oh, he's the Irish guy.
Shane O'Connor.
Is it Sheamus or something?
Sheamus?
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't know.
But that's...
Oh, Max Crosby.
Yeah, he's cute.
Crosby.
Yeah.
Our guy.
He's not like...
Zembranski was like eight pack.
Very vascular.
He's doing the Rocky IV thing in Boise.
Just throwing logs around.
Training in barns.
Now, Crosby is probably, he goes in a category of baddest of all time.
Gingers.
Bamf, yep.
Like, he, like, not just Jackness.
He's getting up there in that.
You think William Wallace was a ginger?
Well, I'm watching that new Ben Franklin movie.
George Washington was a ginger.
I think he was.
He sent over Ben Franklin during 1776 Revolutionary War
to go make a peace treaty with the old French.
And he made a peace treaty with a bunch of teenager girls.
Easy, Tyler.
Jack, give us some stats.
Guy's dead.
Give us some games.
Hold on.
I'm over here looking up Jack.
Ed Sheeran not making the cut, brother.
It's Harold Burnett.
He's talented.
He's in that same category.
I mean, he's insane.
He's a beast.
Conan, sorry.
Julianne Moore, sorry.
Conan was awesome.
I used to
Remember we had his late night show
On like TNT or something
TBS
Yeah bro
I used to love that show
Triumph bro
He let it rip
I love Conan
He has a new show on HBO
It's great
Come on our show
Yeah it's a travel show
It's awesome
Should we toot our own horn here
For a minute
Yeah give us
Give us some games
Toot our own horn
And see what we got
Look at some all encompassing
Games
Over the first 50 episodes
Games
Over the first 50 episodes
Games not episodes.
Games.
We will be building on these numbers tremendously.
But we've had 13 Hall of Famers, 56 total guests.
We've covered a game in every decade for the last 50 years.
50 years.
That's insane.
Hella football, hella sport, hella basketball, hella.
Not hella hockey, though.
Hockey.
Two hockeys, two hockeys.
We have covered 30 championship games of various levels of various sports.
We have also done 27 NFL games, six college football games, eight NBA games, three MLB
games, two NHL games, one soccer match, one the basketball
tournament game, also a championship game, one college basketball game, one UFC fight,
and one wrestling match.
That was, of course, WrestleMania, the Ironman match.
No one can remember that.
Bret Hart, Shawn Michaels.
Well, don't even get me started.
We also have had hundreds, hundreds of botched pronunciations.
And we got plenty more that's coming.
Not a word guy.
No.
Not a word guy.
Not a word guy.
Names is in our title of our show, but we're not great with names.
Zambranski.
Zambranski.
Reggie.
Reggie.
Applewood.
Applewood.
We had Reggie Williams.
Reggie Williams. We had Bart Kre Applewood, Applewood. We had Reggie Williams, Reggie Williams.
We had, uh, Bart Kreischer, Rod.
Hey, maybe this, maybe that might be an award spoiler later.
Oh yeah.
So let's do it.
Let's do a quick game or Tik TOK.
People say this is good.
Uh, high lows, ha favorite moment, worst moment, funniest moment.
Quick.
What do you guys think?
Jules, you go first. Well, all right you guys think? Jules, you go first.
Well, jeez.
All right, I'll go first.
You want me to start it off?
I got my best moment already.
The cat's out of the bag.
Zabransky, Adrian Peterson, the same time in our studio via Zoom.
That was awesome.
My low?
Reliving 18-1.
I mean, jeez.
Oh, yeah.
Don't put me through the pain again.
Next thing you know, we'll be doing like the Bill Buckner game or
when the Celtics lost last year, the
Heat in game seven of the Eastern
Conference Finals. I mean, God,
we should though. And my ha
was having Uncle Terry in here talking
about his booty cheeks being
out in front of Matthew McConaughey
hanging dong. I mean, that was awesome.
Booty cheek clapping. I was Uncle Terry.
He was, Uncle Terry He was
Uncle Terry kept me laughing
The whole time
Uncle freaking Terry
Oh my gosh
High low high
I love this game
You want to go or shall I
You go
My high
There's a few
Cause you know
Ernie, Terry
Those are like classic
Growing up football fan
Like that's love
Also I went to Virginia Tech
For a little bit
So Mike Vick on the Zoom
Was awesome too
That was awesome
Talking about that
Their championship Game run, I guess.
But I think my high, honestly, is when we got funding to do the show.
Honestly.
Seriously.
We were coming up with this idea.
It's a good high.
Good high.
You were still playing.
And so we conceptualized a show that could be shot not weekly to match your schedule.
And it was when sports gambling was happening.
You know, me and Jack on the whiteboard back in, you know, the BU campus days.
Shout out to Commonwealth Ave.
Commonwealth Ave.
Alston Mass, stand up.
That's right.
Hit that Canes.
That Canes right there on the corner.
Right down the street.
Canes.
Aganis Arena, stand up.
Can I just say something?
I had Canes here recently.
Not the same. Not the same. Dude, the guy. Stand up. Can I just say something? I had Canes here recently. Not the same.
Not the same.
Dude, the guy.
The Texas Toast didn't hit.
Well, I only just go strips.
I just do strips a la carte.
That's it.
Texas Toast, almost the damn best thing there.
My man Josh used to always give me his coleslaw.
Texas Toast, good.
You're missing out, bro.
I'm missing out.
But you do like the Louisiana hot sauce they put there.
I do like the hot sauce.
I do hot sauce and then in the Cane sauce.
Whatever. So that's my high. Getting do like the hot sauce. I do hot sauce and then in the cane sauce. Whatever.
So that's my high.
Getting money to make the show.
Yes.
Thank you, Winbet.
Thank you, Winbet.
My low to be on trend here or to be on theme for the show is every single time we score
a fucking game.
And we'll, Not to keep teasing this
But we'll go into that more later
There's been some integrity scores
There's been
Yes there has been some integrity scores
Maybe in the hand
That's true
Kyler goes full Walter
So check every episode
Does anyone give a fuck
About the rules anymore
Mark it zero
Damn it Donnie
And then funniest moment
Or funnest moment
Just all of Gary Gellman Just the whole Your boy The whole thing moment? Just all of Gary Gellman.
Your boy.
The whole thing.
Just, you know, I love Gary.
We saw a new friendship being born right before our eyes.
Two bros, man.
Yeah.
You know, my dad didn't really look at me like I was that kind of guy.
Oh, my God.
A whole new impression just dropped. Let me me change let me change my funnest it's honestly i hate to be a tease to the fans out there but like some of the
conversations that happened post show in the back that's been very fun that was your hot your ha
oh right ha yeah there's been some ha yeah there's been some gronk ha's i enjoy sharing
laughs with my friends yes yes all right inside jokes perhaps amen my high low and ha's will
start with the high my high was probably when uh we had gronk on the episode. Hell yeah. I mean, he's just fun to hang out with,
talk war stories.
And Gronk remembers so much more than I do sometimes.
He'll tell a story and I'm like,
oh shit, that happened.
Yeah.
So that could be,
that's a high.
My low is sometimes when,
well, I got two lows lows sometimes when kyler comes he wears these blue shoes and he takes them off and it makes the whole fucking studio smell that is an absolute
low i mean it smells each i have a fucking candle budget because we do this out of my house
i'm spending five thousand dollars on candles to try to get this goddamn smell out of my house. I'm spending $5,000 on candles to try to get this goddamn smell out of my goddamn studio.
Shut up, dip-teeth, baby.
Okay.
Another low is
my guys are wearing dress shoes.
Yeah.
I mean, this is a stravaganza today.
You're wearing fucking sandals
and your balls are out.
Balls are not out.
I wish they were.
I do have Rocky.
There they are, baby.
Apollo Creed underwear for you.
Apollo Creed underwear.
For all you audio listeners right now, we got to take a quick pause for a fit check.
Kyler has dressed for the occasion.
You know what they want.
I bought a couple pair because you did it.
Jules and I got t-shirts, shorts, hoodies, hats.
No respect for the game.
Kyler is full tux right now for all you audio listeners.
I gave them months in advance to wear something nice to respect the safety of scoring.
You know what a real football guy or a real sports guy would wear?
What?
What he always wears.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
What he always wears. That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. What he always wears.
That's the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
What he always wears.
Audience.
Can I get to my ha moment?
Yes.
Mr. Krabby Patty.
Yeah, go.
This just came up to my head.
My ha moment was when it was one of our first shows.
We got Sam Morell on there.
The man.
We love you, Sammy.
We love Sam.
And if you don't know Sam or you don't You don't know what you're getting into
With Sam
Sam
No filter
No filter
So we have this guest
On by the name of
Kurt Warner
Hall of Fame
Super Bowl winner
Hall of Fame
Super Bowl winner
Multiple MVP winner
Multiple MVP winner
And
Man of faith
Man of faith
Guy is a man of faith.
We love Kurt.
Kurt loves faith.
And I think, you know, Sam's opening joke had to do with like jacking off or a Harvey Weinstein joke.
I don't know which one it was.
Oh, that'd be cracking up.
I'm sitting there and I'm seeing Kurt's reaction.
And I'm sitting there watching Sam deliver this thing.
And I'm just like, oh my God. Yeah, Kurt's on that cover'm sitting there watching Sam deliver this thing and I'm just like oh my god
yeah Kurt's on that cover
too or whatever it was
but you know what like to make
this a positive when Sam
dropped a cunnilingus joke to Peyton
Manning with neck surgery yes
Peyton Manning went along he did
what a good sport what a good sport
what a good sport so those have been small
moments
all right let's let's get into the What a good sport. What a good sport. So those have been small moments.
Those have been small moments.
All right, let's get into the whole point of this show.
We've alluded to it a lot.
But let's talk about scoring and the problem that we have.
Now that all that fun stuff is out of the way,
I've got a lot of problems with both of you people.
Now, I've got a lot of stuff. What do you mean, you people? You fucking too. What do you mean, you people? I've got a lot of problems with both of you people. Now, I've got a lot of stuff.
What do you mean, you people? You fucking too.
What do you mean, you people?
I've got problems.
What do you mean, you people?
Coming from a very Aryan bearded man.
We're both German.
Relax.
Here's your opportunity.
If you guys want to say anything that we could do better about the scoring system or what's not working about the score system.
If you don't, I have have plenty but here's your platform you know as as a man that
has been learning how to television been learning the interview process the communication and the
feel of the person you are having and you are hosting onto your platform
show, whatever it is. As a man that does that and my learning process, I like to allow the guest
to feel special in his own special way. Agreed. We're hospitable.
You know, that's a, that's a hospitable thing to do, Kyler. Okay. okay now do i agree with them absolutely not but i'm it's
who am i to say anything to them while they have the spotlight it's their time to shine for their
game and this is in 90 of the time if not more it's like the high watermark for these guests
life like this is the biggest game not this show no not being on this show not i mean this is the biggest game. Not this show. No, not being on this show. I mean, this is a big honor.
But this game, they're breaking down with us.
It's like, this is like, this is a 10 to them.
So when they're giving a 10, I understand.
This moment meant a ton to these people.
So I'm with you.
I'm in the same boat.
I don't have the balls to argue.
And like for Burt Kreischer, I mean, he doesn't even remember the time.
It is his favorite time of all time.
Yes.
He's had better times that he forgot than we ever had that we remember.
Okay.
Well, then what is the goal of scoring?
Is it to make our guests feel nice and fluffy and comfortable,
even though you let them sit on this fucking couch?
Or is it the sanctity of sport competition?
Finding the greatest game of all time.
Or are we just playing fucking tummy sticks
and just letting a regular season game be a 10 all right dude like it's broken down like this
okay we're gonna have our own scoring system it's kind of like at the combine and pro days
you hear the kid goes out and runs a four three3 at his pro day, but at the combine he ran a 4-5-6.
There's professional scoring and then there's pro day scoring.
Okay, so you guys got what you needed to get out?
I don't even know what I just said.
When people do go full Billy Bob, varsity blues,
I can get a 10, a 10.
I'm like, ah, man.
I would like you to put a little thought into it
because sometimes it does feel reactionary.
It's a little quick to like,
eh, 10.
That bugs me, sure.
But I will say the one gripe where I'm like,
ah, man, come on,
when I really care about the scoring system is when a game that is of the level of a 28-3,
when that is below some of these games
that are not on par with a 28-3.
When I see it all laid out like that, I'm like, ah, that really grinds my gear.
That gets my goat.
But otherwise, those are my two big ones.
It's something being too low and then a quick 10.
We'll get into some of the receipts here, too.
So off of you, Jack.
Yep, go ahead. So I'll be the one that's the asshole.
I have no problem with being the asshole
In my life, personally, and career
I got a quick question
Go for it
How's that bow tie feeling right now?
It's feeling lonely
She's lonely
It's actually your bow tie
I don't have a bow tie
Good looking bow tie
Thank you
Anyway
So I have no problem being the asshole, right?
And saying Reggie Bush
This regular season game against Fresno State, perhaps is not a 10.
And then what you guys do is Jules goes, you're shut up.
It is great.
And then Jack goes, yeah, I'm the hype man.
I'm so much flavor, flavor.
So like that's when I like I open the door for debate and you guys go, shut the fuck up.
You sandbagging bastards. And the wardrobe today is apropos of this whole thing
where I'm the only one that cares about this thing.
And it makes me sad.
What are you talking about?
There's no integrity.
Do you even see what I'm wearing?
Bro, that's a sick-ass Rocky t-shirt.
We are embracing debate.
You know what this is?
Rocky literally defeated communism and ended the Cold War.
Just like we're ending the discussion of some of these scores.
Ask Ukraine how that's working out for him.
The stakes are too high.
The guests are biased.
We aren't embracing debate.
We're supposed to be experts in finding the greatest game of all time.
And we're just making sure our guests are comfortable.
If I can change.
You can change.
We all can change.
But now let's be constructive here.
Well, first, before it gets constructive,
let's just take a look at our top list right now, right?
Can I just...
Who put tens on all these?
These are the scores.
These are the scores from the episode.
Oh.
Right?
Okay, right.
Who put ten on all these, Jules?
The guess that you let off the hook.
I gave it a ten.
Mark Cuban, I think, takes the heat for a bigger issue, right?
So here's the 2011 NBA Finals Game 6, Mavics versus Heat.
9.5.
It's third overall.
It's in front of the 18-1 Super Bowl and right behind two AFC Championship games, the 2018-1 and 2003-1.
Both Patriot wins.
The almost tie game.
The almost tie game.
A regular season game that's known for almost being in a tie is number six
ahead of the 2004 ALCS.
It was almost a tie.
Almost a tie.
Almost.
I mean, you know, ties worldwide are looked at like in soccer.
The Bush push.
I can't even argue.
We all want to kiss our sister.
The Bush push.
A week six game.
Granted, there is, you know, undefeated season or whatever.
It's right ahead of the 1999 Women's World Cup.
Ahead of the 1999 Women's World Cup.
Also ahead of the 28-3 game is 16th on our list.
Behind the Ironman match, a scripted entertainment product.
It's not scripted.
It's still real to me, damn it. It's not scripted. Then there's not still real to me damn it
not scripted
there's more the can't wait game
the can't wait game a Giants
divisional round game right
is ahead of the Patriots Seahawks
Super Bowl that's a marketing guy
he knows we're going to talk about it in this thing
so and then there's more here I will
say that the TB12
final team Barstool is 32nd on this list.
Starfish.
Ahead of the UFC Khabib versus McGregor fight.
Ahead of a BCS National Championship game.
Ahead of a Game 7 of a Stanley Cup final that ended in riots,
which is 45th on our list.
The only thing that we've nailed is the Pro Bowl being last i will say that yeah i think that's
higher than the barstool it might be too i don't disagree with that um okay brandon marshall now
enough negativity let's build this thing back up let's tear it down and build it there we go
we've got some solutions and we've listened to our fans who sent in the hotline with some opinions and advice.
Let's hear it.
Yeah.
Connected to Carlos.
Listen, huge fan.
My name's Alec.
I love your show.
It's great.
Jules, you're awesome.
But this scoring system, what are we doing?
This is not it.
You can't let these guys come in and big pants you jewels like yeah i just don't know it's not right but i'm not in your position for that talk
but you want a scoreologist you want someone who knows what they're talking about i'll be your guy
i promise uh the only legitimate score i thought there was the 2004 ALCS game being number three.
But anyway, love you guys.
Show.
Talk to you.
First off, Kyler, who the fuck did you hire to throw that one in?
Not this one.
Not this one.
Big pants.
Big pants.
I never even heard that term.
I kind of like it.
I kind of like it.
I've never met an Alec in my life.
We might need to start using big pants.
Yeah.
I agree, I guess.
Jules, the way to improve the scoring would be for you and Frank
or whoever else to score the game yourself.
Don't let the guests score it.
If it's a Patriot game, obviously you have to absolve yourself
because you're biased, but you guys got to
score it and you got to use decimals
as frequently as possible.
Don't let the guest score it.
This is Matt from Chicago.
Chicago! Amen.
Actually, that's not a bad idea. What, are we going to eliminate
the guest from scoring the game? I don't agree
with that, but I think he...
Frank? Frank is the most biased
person you'll ever fucking meet this guy still
talks about the 1998 super bowl that was him coaching names this is aaron andrews from new
england uh yeah wait wait can you pause is this it said aaron andrews it said aaron andrews
hello games of names this is aaron andrews from new england uh yeah you got a case of the
tens but maybe if you had um levels to uh cap on a certain number for each game whether it's
like a divisional um a championship or just a regular season. I don't know if this makes any sense.
You introduced math and I kind of clenched up.
So maybe this will jog your creative mind.
Either way, looking forward to your podcast.
Thank you.
I like the case of the tens.
Case of the tens.
That's pretty good.
Got a case of the tens.
Hey, guys.
Just wanted to call in.
I'm not up to date on all the episodes.
Turn it up.
This may have already been figured out.
But with the question of how to figure out the scoring system,
I think the easiest way of fixing this is just having the guests, Jules,
and then any other co-hosts all rank each part of it.
So like the game overall, the gameplay, everything like that.
And then you just average that out.
That way you can't have someone like Cuban come in and just give a 10 to everything.
That 10 will still count a little bit, but not all the way.
So what is this?
Is this a Pro Bowl?
You got fans, you got coaches, and you got fucking internet.
How do they even do the Pro Bowl?
Is it fan voting?
No, fan voting is too complicated.
I just can't get over that guy being named Aaron Andrews.
That rocks. Okay, we got one more. You is too complicated. I just can't get over that guy being named Aaron Andrews. That rocks.
Okay, we got one more.
You think about it.
It's probably a common name.
But he's probably A-A-R-O-N.
A-A?
Yeah, the male version.
Yeah, I mean, I've met like 100 Susie Colbers in my life.
Did you kiss anyone?
Sorry.
Shout out, Joe.
Jesus Christ.
Fellas, I think I got a pretty easy solution here for your scoring predicament.
You just got to take Jewel's opinion.
You got to take the producer's opinion.
Whose name I cannot remember.
Jackie Boy, Jackie.
Take Jackie's opinion.
Take the guest's opinion for each category.
So, you know, cubes put you guys in a body bag.
I get it. Hard to say no
to that guy. And Jules, you throw out a seven. Jackie boy throws out a 7.5. I'm not here to do
math. That's for you guys. But you take the aggregate of those three, and that is the
category score for that. Yeah, that's pretty much it. I think you do that for all four categories. You'll get a little
bit more of a fair scoring system here because, yeah, Q's absolutely dominated you. But love the
show. Glad you're back. Aggregate. Aggregate. When he's throwing around words like aggregate,
man. Okay, so we have a solution. We've talked about it. We've discussed it. So here's what
we're going to be doing moving forward. We listened. We talked. Jules, you we have a solution. We've talked about it. We've discussed it. So here's what we're going to be doing moving forward.
We listened.
We talked.
Jules, you will have your own score.
Jack, you will have your own score.
Kyler, myself, will have my own score.
And the guests will have their own score.
And we'll average it all?
And we'll average all four. We'll use the aggregate of all four?
100%.
Is that reasonable?
We're going to keep the categories as is.
We're going to do stakes.
We're going to do star power. We're going to do gameplay. And we're going to keep the categories as is. We're going to do stakes. We're going to do star power.
We're going to do gameplay.
And we're going to do the name of the game,
which is also the cultural relevance of the game.
We'll let the guests score how they want on the show,
but we'll guide them to an integrity score as best we can,
encouraging decimals and to belittle tens.
Back is all jacked.
You're comfy over there, baby.
I get comfy for this this we'll belittle tens
um and then how we're gonna do it to make the show like seamless because jules jack and myself
we always prep before just you know watching game footage going over the rundown of the show
when we do the prep process we will score before the guest comes on and we'll have our scores
already going.
That doesn't mean that we can't be changed based off of the conversation, because I think it's important to, you know, take a primary sources information and, you know, put it into, you know,
if we're going to be integrity here. So it doesn't mean we can't change our score, but we will have
scored the game ahead of time so that when the guest scores, we'll be able to average all of
them and come up with a new final score. So that's what we're going to be doing moving forward.
So we're taking it before?
The three of us will score before.
The guests will score live, and then we'll get the final.
So we're scoring twice?
Yeah, but we're not going to do it on camera.
We're going to be doing it during research.
We talked about this.
No, I know that, but I'm just saying.
When we actually get to the scoring the show,
we'll let the guest score
Right and then we'll reveal our score
That's already in the rundown and then we'll average
It together so if they say a 10 and you
Say an 8 and you say
An 8 and I say a 10 which I won't
It'll be a 9 I just was doing easy math
It'll be a 9 oh we see that it's a 9
Right so we're just the information
It's like in a cooking show when they cook something
Before and they put the oven in It's cook something before college type shit you just you just said that doesn't matter that's only on your brain because
you're watching franklin yeah it kind of is shout out michael douglas so that's what we're gonna be
doing shout out michael douglas that's he's probably the cool he's so cool you think benjamin
franklin was that cool he did supposedly invent a lot of stuff, the bifocals thing.
He was never on Wall Street, so I don't know.
Douglas got him beat there.
So that's the score.
That's the new scoring system.
New score.
Now, if you're an astute listener, you might say,
well, what the fuck?
We're talking integrity.
What about these 50 games we just did well now what's me and jack
and jules um leading up to this episode we all went over each game and scored them independently
and now we're going to take the prior shows score or the guest score uh and then before we had the
guest score the show score and then we'll average all four of those scores up and then we've have a new
top 50 list and now we're going to go over those top 50 and reveal what our new integrity based
top 50 games are the folks from ernst and young delivered them in a sealed briefcase
we don't know the results yet this is live on the air we will be reacting to these
we're righting our wrongs the envelopeses are in. Let's get to it.
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We ready?
So 50 to 41.
Okay, let's unveil the 50th game.
The 2012 Pro Bowl.
Right where it should be.
Right where it should be.
49.
TBT final, team Barstool versus the Notre Dame alums.
Whoa, wait a minute, wait a minute, wait a minute.
Let me see these real quick.
Ooh, Jack's throwing out full zeros here on Pro Bowl.
Zero stakes, zero name.
I think that's fair.
Look who has a little Russian judge in him.
Yeah.
So the Pro Bowl still got beat by a barstool game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, 48.
I think for me the reason.
Giants-Nationals.
That's the worst game ever.
That's the third worst game we've done.
I'm worried Giants have right now.
It's baseball. It's a division-around game. ever. That's the third worst game we've done. I'm wearing a Giants hat right now.
It's baseball.
It's a division-around game.
47.
What's 47?
The fake spike game.
2013, week eight, Lions-Cowboys.
That beats a NLDS game.
They win 18.
Star power.
Football. Week eight is literally the worst.
That's the worst week in football.
It's when like half the teams hurt.
The grind starts.
I'm just trying to shout out there for the seam heads.
Yeah.
You know, you seam heads out there, I'm with you.
It's fucking bullshit.
NFL owns everything.
I know.
I mean, it is wild, but look at the numbers.
People are tuning in on a week eight game more than a division around game.
Easy, Rod.
All right.
We get it.
46, Gilbert Arena, 60 game.
06.
I gave a 6-9 average score.
Nice.
We're moving into number 45, the Manning 7.
This is a week one game.
Manning 7, week one.
2013, Broncos-Ravens.
Ooh, I gave it a worse score than, oh, no, I gave it a better score. This is a week one Manning 7 week 1 2013 Broncos Ravens
I give it a worse score than
Oh no I give it a better score
Peyton Manning only gave it a 6-8-8
Well that was before we did it with Peyton
So that was you and Sam
Okay
Solid I think you guys came to a pretty solid move
What I'm noticing as a trend here so far
Is that Jack is the hardo
The biggest hardo here jules is giving
the best scores and i'm somewhere in the middle closed ballot votes i turn into the hardest of
hardos when it's closed out you get me in the voting booth and you pull that curtain hard low
44 let's move on to 44 here the snover time game leshawn mccoy colts bills week 17 a little bit
of playoff implications here,
but it's still a low-scoring game. Great number.
44.
I love that number.
Tom Raffin.
If we had a visually stunning game, this would be top.
Good jerseys popping in the snow.
The red on all reds.
And it was a beastly game to play as good as Leshawn did.
And went to overtime.
Oh, shady.
Number 43.
Ah, man. Out the club game. The out the club game at 43.. Oh, shady. Number 43. Ah, man.
Out the club game.
The out the club game at 43.
I mean, it was week 11.
I get it.
Amazing about this is...
Me and Gronk gave it the same score.
It ended up being the same score as Gronk's score.
Wow.
What a fucking...
I just love Rob.
That's a man of integrity.
Man of integrity.
It's a 6.5, and then we went through it, and it was a 6.5.
Shout out to Jonas Gray.
And it stayed in the same exact position.
All right, let's see 41 here.
Sorry, I got it.
Miracle in Morgantown with Vic.
Shout out, Vic.
42.
The Hank Aaron game.
That jumped up five spots.
Wow, okay.
Okay.
I can dig that on to 41.
Go Hokies.
The 2009 Western Conference Finals Nuggets League.
See, that being ahead of Miracle in Morgantown, it irks me a bit.
But you're being in the 40s.
I think it should be noted that stakes in college football at this era
before the college football playoffs were a lot higher.
The BCS era.
If you had national champions expectations,
those were essentially elimination games. Not entirely, but close. And it's a trophy game. Black BCS era. If you had national champions expectations, those were essentially elimination games. Not entirely,
but close.
It's a trophy game. Black Diamond Trophy.
Black Diamond Trophy. Yeah, but
Vic didn't play super well on it, though, but it had a great
ending. When it mattered most. I give it
a 7-2 on these stakes. Yeah, it's a finals
game, bro. Still, it's
got to be over a C.
Western Conference Finals.
See, you look at it like a great
like an abcd like i just i just go like one through two i don't think of it like that i
don't think of it like that but i get where you're coming from i do the same thing where i like if
it's a five it failed for me a championship game is a nine these get degrees If it's a seven, you're average. Average to very good is lower eights.
If you're a nine, you're right.
It ain't nothing hitting a ten.
For me, like, championship game starts at a nine,
and then it can gain incremental points if there's some legacy stuff,
there's some backstory.
Yeah, if it's championship game seven, though.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, no, but then i think
like a game one will lose some points so i might have like a game one stanley cup final be like an
8.8 whatever or if it's a game seven it might go up toward 9.5 or whatever i agree yeah okay so
that was our first 10 first 10 first 10 i feel like it feels pretty feels better yeah feels like
it's getting there well yeah more integral i to see it all when it's done.
You know, we've got to see the new list.
We're on the right track.
We keep planning to do these.
So then we also asked some fans to send in their opinion
of what the greatest game of all time is.
So let's hit the mailbox real quick.
Let's hit the mailbox.
What are we?
Hotline, baby.
The hotline for our fans' opinion of the greatest game of all time.
Hey, Jules.
Long-time caller.
Big-time fan.
Tom here.
I think the greatest game.
It's been talked about.
But it's Seahawks-Pats.
This guy's name's Tom.
You think he was named after Tom?
He sounds like he's probably 28.
I can see it.
He's talking about a Patriots game.
There's got to be a lot of Julians and Toms.
He could be under.
He's definitely after Brady.
Keep going. Hey, Jules. Long-oms. He's definitely after Brady. Keep going.
Hey, Jules.
Long-time caller.
Big-time fan.
Tom here.
I think the greatest game.
It's been talked about, but it's Seahawks-Pats.
Super Bowl.
Game-winning touchdown.
Ten-point comeback.
It had it all.
Great play by Butler at the end.
I think that's my number one.
You know, it had it all.
The storyline, the stars.
I know you all talked about it on your podcast before, but that's
my vote. Have a great day, bubs. Love ya.
Nice to meet you, bubs.
It's a good one. It's not the greatest.
It's a good one. That was a really good one, actually.
Yeah. I think, I suspect
that ends up... Legion of Boom?
I suspect that ends up top five for us.
We'll see. Hope so. We'll see.
Hey, Jules. this is Ago calling.
The best
game of all time was
Cal Stanford football.
The band is on the field.
It's a game winning drive
to take the lead for Stanford.
We all know what happened on the ensuing kickoff.
The band
was out on the field.
He's going into the end zone. The Bears, the Bears have won.
Imagine if this game happened today, the referendum about fans and bands and music programs and all
the nonsense that would go with it. Back then, it was just a crazy win. Greatest game ever.
Cal Stanford, the band is out on the field.
We got to do that game.
We got to do that game. That was a, I mean, I grew up in the Bay area,
so that we all knew that, that game. I mean, that was pretty crazy, but first off that'll never happen in today's day and age,
because if one person were to ever step on foot after all these crazy,
like things that are happening at games and public
events i'm pretty sure sniper's taking them out done one bad band member gone r.i.p to the tuba
kid and also oh my god r.i.p to the pac-12 oh yeah boy yeah one ip that was a pac-10 game that
could have been a package this is now i look that up this
is an acc rivalry now right oh my god that's disgusting stanford yeah stanford and cal went
to the acc these kids are gonna have to go on a friday fly across country and then come back
probably right after the game on a saturday Have Sunday to recover up, go to class.
Yeah, right.
It's going to be so hard.
Also, because we've done some research about this Cal Stanford game,
Ron Rivera played for one of the – also Mike Nolan, former 49ers coach.
There's some heat in the coaching staff here.
Hey, what's up, guys?
Just now seeing the post.
Question was asked, what is the greatest game of all time?
I'm not sure, but the greatest fight I've ever watched was probably,
hmm, good one.
Brian Nate Diaz versus Conor McGregor 2, both of them, 1 and 2.
That was cinema.
Thank you.
Those fights
were so entertaining
and I've gotten
to meet and hang out
with Nate Diaz.
He's a Stockton guy.
I got family in Stockton.
I know how rough
and tough those
jokers are.
And he don't
give a fuck.
That dude is crazy,
bro.
He just eats
the punch.
Hot.
He's a street fighter,
man.
We're doing some work to try to get him on.
We're going to get him on.
He's going to come on.
That'd be sick.
I wonder what he wants to talk about, which fight he'll pick.
Maybe one of these.
Maybe one of these.
But I agree.
UFC, I'm not a big fight guy, UFC, but the fans really seem to like this,
and these are fun episodes.
He is a scary dude, and if Kyler argues with him on a score,
that might be one where I turtle.
I might turtle big time.
Oh, yeah, it's 10.
Yeah, he'll knock your ass out.
Straight out.
Yeah.
Yeah, I don't disagree with that at all.
Yeah, I think we'd all give him that.
We'd all give him that.
Actually, he's such a charming, sweet dude if he likes you.
Yeah, but actually, this makes me think of,
we got to get some boxing matches in here.
I'm down, brother. We got to get some boxing. in here i'm down brother you gotta get some sweet science baby i want tyson tyson would rock tyson would rock
we gotta get so many good but if tyson had a score that you didn't fucking like what would
you do there kyler i would well with our new new and improved scoring system you want to say
anything we would guide him smug look in your eye we would guide him but
then we would know that our system is designed properly with data and thought that we still have
an integrity score even if mike wants to give everything tens i dig it i think mike would have
an integrity fight i think so great i think so too also the thing with mike is he's not a bullshitter
those stakes are super high the star power of mike in the 90s, super high, right?
And then, you know, maybe some of these fights where he knocks a guy out in like three seconds isn't the best gameplay.
If we got Mike in the studio, man, they'd be so tight.
Oh, my God.
Is he going to beat what's-his-dick when they fight?
Jake Paul.
I've heard it's like a sanctioned fight.
It is.
Heavyweight.
16-ounce gloves.
Those are big gloves. Those are big gloves.
Those are big boys.
Okay.
If we get over my dead body, a Paul is coming on this podcast.
My God.
Well, his gloves are right here.
His glove.
He sent me a glove, Jake.
Oh, we like Jake.
I forgot about it.
Yeah, we're a big Paul.
We're a Jake guy.
We love those guys.
I can't wait for a Paul to come.
He sent me a fight.
Fight glove.
We love those guys.
Maybe we'll go on Impulsive or whatever his pod's called.
We'll drink Prime.
We love those guys.
No, I think that's his brother.
Oh, okay.
Same guy to me.
Whatever.
Yeah, they're all the same.
But go Iron Mike.
Respect him.
They're fucking geniuses.
And the motherfucker, I mean, he looks like he's learned how to fight pretty damn good.
Also, boxing has always been about the spectacle.
It's always been about the story leading up to it.
They've just taken it to the nth degree.
And they know how to make a damn story.
Yeah, you're right.
Yeah.
All right.
One more voicemail on this story. Yeah, you're right. One more
voicemail on this block.
Hey Jules, Ryan
calling in from Tampa.
Just a quick one.
Best game of all time has to be the miracle
on ice. Biggest
upset in the history of sports, no
questions, hands down.
We had a bunch of college kids playing
against a Russian team
that had just beat the NHL All-Star team by about seven goals the week before.
So craziest upset of all time.
Best game of all time.
See you later.
That is a pretty amazing game.
That would be an elevator pitch game.
Will we get Kurt Russell?
Not tonight, boys.
Not tonight.
Mike Rizzioni from Winthrop, Massachusetts.
Oh?
Yeah.
Because this is, you know, I'm a hockey guy.
I actually bought a jersey for when we can do this game.
The angle that I want to do and the reason why we haven't just done it yet
is because there's like three or four of these Russian guys that speak English,
and I think that there's a world where we could get one of them.
There's been some documentaries about them that are great.
I don't know right now.
That's a good point.
I don't know right now, bubs.
This is a pro-America podcast.
And I don't think their government would allow us to get on here.
Talk about defeating communism.
Yeah.
Your fictional character.
Rocky and Drago.
For real.
Here's a good question.
He brings up Miracle on Ice.
We're talking Miracle.
We're talking Herb Brooks.
We're talking Kurt Russell.
What other game that we have done in our top 50 would translate well into a great movie?
Jack.
There's one for you.
That's a great segment.
Have we done The Malice in the Palace yet?
We have not.
No.
That'd be a sick movie.
That'd be a sick movie that'd be a psych movie i can just be the end of like the guy that looks like jerry ferrari just getting dunked that butter on our test you remember that guy he's out there on the course
um well 28 to 3 technically had 80 for brady oh you're're right. You're right. And I think we do have some 80 for Brady gear on there.
Shout out to Jane Fonda.
Yeah, we have her.
Lily Tomlin.
Lily Tomlin.
We love them all.
Immaculate Reception.
I don't know that there's enough.
You could probably.
Well, Kurt Warner had the movie, which is.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Underdog.
American Underdog.
Whatever it's called.
You could probably do a Christian movie about Boise State, Oklahoma.
I don't think that's a Christian school.
I know, but you could pick one of those Christian kids from Boise.
They're a little like in the Utah vein.
You could make one, and then they propose to the girl.
Oh, no.
The Ian Johnson story.
Oh, my gosh.
That would rock.
That's the biggest game of my life.
I swear I love you.
I got a surprise for you after the game.
If we win.
You know what?
Let's put that on the old notes.
Who plays Zabransky?
Ed Sheeran.
No.
Who's our...
Santino?
Andrew Santino.
That's fine.
Andrew Santino.
I don't know how much
Jared Zabransky
How much he would do
In a Christian produced movie
Yeah I don't know
For the right money
I'm sure he'd do it
I'm trying to think like
And Walton Goggins
Is Bob Stoops
Who's playing
Adrian Peterson
Oh I gotta
Who's
Jonathan Majors
And
Let's go
Next Topic Okay 40 to. Who's Jonathan Majors? And let's go on.
Next topic.
Okay.
40 to 31.
Let's unveil these.
Ready?
Ricky's record.
Speaking of college football, 1999, week 11.
Mack Brown.
Ricky did it, baby.
It's a big.
I mean, there's.
Jack's three on the name.
Yeah.
Stakes seven.
Ricky's record.
Yeah.
Run, Ricky, run. Run, Ricky, run. That was a really good one. I just like the name. Yeah. Stakes. Ricky's record? Yeah. Run, Ricky, run.
That would have been a good one.
That was a really good one.
I just like the cultural.
I think that wasn't that a E40 or something?
That was like a movie or a 30 for 30.
Yeah, 30.
E40.
We got to get Ricky on in person because he's close by.
That'd be sweet.
Let's do 39.
39.
I went and hung out with him at his house once.
He's a Manhattan Beach guy, right?
Yeah.
It wasn't his house.
It's like his creative studio.
Ooh.
And we just hung out.
I brought some tacos.
That's tight.
How were the tacos?
They were phenomenal,
but I was starving on the way,
and he hit me up,
and it was like a pretty cool...
I think he loved the gesture.
He sat and ate tacos and talked.
You brought the tacos?
I brought the tacos.
Very good guest move.
You're very good at the gesture, the hangout gesture.
And a lot of it's food-based, but it's thoughtful.
I think you should get more credit for that.
Thank you, Kyler.
Yeah, you're welcome.
39.
39.
39.
The 2018 Stanley Cup Final Game 5, Caps versus Golden Knights,
PFT was our guest.
I mean, this is suitable for this game, the Woodhead game.
Yeah.
The Woodhead score.
You know what I mean?
You overlook it a little.
It was really a great thing.
Jack, your scores are some hard anti-hockey bias here.
Sorry, sorry.
I think it's just like, yeah, I don't know.
This one cracking the top 30 is below 40 or above 40,
whatever you want to say.
Yeah, it feels a little weird, but yeah, I think game five,
the star power, I think, pulled it down a little bit for me,
given it was just OV and PFT.
A 4-0.
Yeah, Jack, this is pretty. is pretty sorry sorry i might have gone
a little hard you went real hard here like and just look at next to the record here where you
scored ricky record 5.5 fine but like there's only one star in that game or maybe two mac brown and
ricky williams yo dan campbell was on that dan campbell apple white or apple apple apple white
fuck um it's apple, isn't it?
Sorry.
Yeah.
It's White.
I pulled this one down.
Yeah.
38.
Shall we touch on 38?
But Jack hates hockey.
Good to know.
Hey, I'm a puck head, guy.
Let's go Bruins.
I should have sandbagged college basketball.
Oh, we only have one to do it for.
That one dropped 10 positions.
Wow.
It was 29, which felt probably right for it.
But okay.
That baby had an anvil on its waist.
And his name was Jack McCarthy.
My 89.
Number 38.
The Legion of Boom game with Carissa Thompson.
Seahawks, Broncos.
This was a bit of a blowout Super Bowl.
The name is pretty better than a two, Jack.
Jack throws out twos like a...
The gameplay, the Seahawks played really well
right but like no one's gonna look back and be like that was one heck of a super bowl they'll
be like that's true first snap was over his head yeah it was like safety literally from the first
player like all right this is gonna be done yeah i was in new york watching this thing i
black bounce cold weather you were at the Were you at MetLife for this one?
No.
Oh, you're in the summer.
I mean, I'm in Dola.
Festivities.
Oh, I like it.
It was awesome, though, because you'd watch the game,
and you had a booth, and during the game,
when the game was on, it's full attention.
The game's on, playing loud.
And then as soon as it went to commercial,
it'd be bumping out.
And then as soon as the game came back,
the music would stop.
He'd go to the game play.
It's like going to a basketball game or a hockey game.
I was going to say a wild game
on musical chairs there.
It was fun.
That's tight.
37.
The Sean Alexander game.
2019 Western Conference semifinals.
Warriors versus Rockets.
This was with Ryan Rosillo,
Steph Curry, Ice Cold in the first half.
On fire in the second half. They took down Chris Paul, James Harden. This was with Ryan Rosillo, Steph Curry, Ice Cold in the first half. On fire in the second half. They took down
Chris Paul, James Harden.
This one is 37.
I mean, that's a respectable.
That feels right for that. Where were we all at? He gave it a 7-0.
Yeah. I gave it a 7-8.
Yeah, you went a little high.
I think you star power, though, and I think that was
fair. That Warriors team.
No name killed this one.
Yeah. Jack Sandbag did name killed this one. Yeah.
Jack Sandbag did.
What's up?
At KD that year.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, he got injured in these playoffs.
Yeah.
A lot of star power for sure.
Hella stars.
Like four Hall of Famers.
Five Hall of Famers.
I like to think of star power, too, as not just like total stars, but like percentage of stars.
So I feel like with these super teams in basketball, if you've got four stars on a team and there's
five players, really, like that's really high where it's like you know that's like wrestling
wrestling or fighting gets higher stakes because if they're both fucking stars yeah not stakes but
star power anyway and if you'll remember the calise was at this game sitting courtside for
some reason yes the calise that's why jack had an 8.4 that That's right. You guys had the same star power on that one. Nice. Yeah. Nice.
Number 36, moving on.
21-31, 1995.
Angels versus Orioles when Cal Ripken set the record.
The Iron Man.
This game we did with Louis Black.
That feels right.
That feels right.
That feels good.
Heck of a streak.
Game itself.
What do I like?
We're here for the streak.
We're not here for it.
So that one moved up
three positions this feels right i kind of i kind of sunk it a little bit with my stakes because
the regular season baseball game yeah but the stakes this is a this is a record that was going
for yeah if you were to account the stakes leading up to this maybe i probably would have
like the stakes here was just like just don't get the flu yeah don't have kevin costa cheat on your
way right just make it to the ballpark this is kevin costa and five innings and five and make Just don't get the flu. Don't have Kevin Costner cheat on your wife.
Just make it to the ballpark.
Kevin Costner. And five innings.
And make it five innings.
You think Kevin Costner would come on?
I bet he would.
I don't think he would.
He's just too cool.
He's filming photography of something I saw.
He's making his own.
He's a baseball.
I mean, he's got to be a sport fan.
What about Tin Cup?
Tin Cup.
All-timer. Love Tin Cup. We've always talked about doing a fictional game at some point moving on 35 shout
out jonas gray we are on to the 2011 stanley cup final game seven bruins canucks with big z
joe list came on and chopped it up with us on this one. This is 35. Feels a little low.
This feels low.
This feels low.
Jack, 7.9 stakes.
This is a game seven of a major sport.
Is that too high on the list?
No, it's too low on the list, so it should be higher.
The score is too low.
The placement is too high.
So should it be closer to 50 or closer to one?
Closer to one.
Closer to one.
So it shouldn't be lower.
Yes.
It's all about perspective.
Yeah, I'm with you.
It should be lower.
I think your anti-hockey bias, 7.9 out of a game 7.
I mean, I guess it puts it in the same place as a Super Bowl.
Char had an integrity score.
Well, Char didn't score this.
Remember we'd scored after?
I feel like every...
Yeah.
The name dragged it down for me.
I gave it an eight.
Yeah.
I gave it an eight.
Jules, I think your score was pretty good.
Yeah.
And I gave it a higher name,
even though it doesn't technically have a name,
but it's very present culturally. there was literally fucking riots after that picture of those like kids
making out in the street with fire that was pretty kind of sticks with you so okay all right
i'll give you this should be higher sweetness anti-hockey body 34 34 34 sweet ricky williams
the bush game 2000 2005 week 11 11, Fresno State, USC.
Reggie ran for 500-something all-purpose yards.
That's a record, right?
That was a record.
I think it still stands.
This one, rank change.
Woo.
Down 16.
Woo.
Yeah.
Also, the last Seneca final went up nine, but still didn't go quite enough.
And these two next to each other don't feel great.
No. Yeah. Moving on to 33, Larry Bird two next to each other don't feel great. No.
Yeah.
Moving on to 33, Larry Bird, we love you.
Doesn't feel great.
Yeah.
2001 NCAA title, Duke versus Arizona.
This one didn't move much.
Went down one spot in the rankings.
I mean, the stakes are high.
I think we're all pretty much in agreement in the nine region there.
No name.
9.6, Jack.
Yeah, that was high, I think.
A little too high, probably.
Gameplay, I mean, it was closed down to the end.
Was this dude going back to back?
It is a title game.
It is two blue chip programs.
I do think stakes is a little high there, Jack.
Yeah, I think that's my college basketball bias showing.
Yeah, fool. Sorry, I think that's my college basketball bias showing. Yeah, fool.
Sorry, guys.
But it was...
No, Duke was not going back-to-back on this one, just to clarify.
Yeah, I'll admit my wrongs there.
Are 32?
32!
Is that OJ?
RIP?
RIP, juice.
He was 32.
2014 BCS National Championship.
Auburn versus FSUsu we did this one with
burke kreischer as you'll remember he may not you may i will say this one the star power
and the no name i think hurt this one a little bit the well no name and star power this is an
underrated bcs game this was this is a spectacular this was a great fucking game kick return comeback
at the rose bowl i mean you name it yeah yeah this this one but i mean it moved up nine spots
those are blue chip blue chip blue chip right like fsu that time this was an fsu in the 90s with dion
no you know what i mean like fisher this is just this is like a random this was a random come up for fsu yeah yes
yeah same with auburn i mean like in auburn usually i mean they've lived in the shadow
of alabama i'm not trying to put no salt but like right auburn does the thing where they kind of
like you hear and then they spike for you too and then they yeah they always do that like consistent
blue chip yeah then their coach leaves becomes a senator fucks over the country yeah it's like
yeah it is very good that's a good way to put auburn yeah this is this feels too low but um
i think it is notable to point out that this there isn't any cachet to this game even though
it it's up there with boise state oklahoma in terms of like actual gameplay that maybe doesn't
have as quite iconic plays but the back and forth was pretty wild on this one. Yeah, this is certainly one to revisit if you forgot about it.
Yeah.
31, moving on.
The 2002 Western Conference Finals Game 5,
Lakers versus Kings.
Hasan Minhaj, Mike Bibby were with us for this one.
This feels a little too...
I gave Sacramento King bias on my score.
Zero rank change.
Wow.
Interesting. That's incredible's incredible yeah so we're
staying at 31 with that one nailed that one i used to we had integrity with this score the referees
did not in that game we're we're i like that it's pretty cool to see a game not change at all yeah
i like that's integrity neat cool okay let's do another jump into some of these Go into the hotline again What's going on in the hotline bling right now
Same thing, audience
Giving us their favorite or their greatest games of all time
I love it
Hi, this is Brittany from Roseville
I just wanted to say that the greatest game
In my opinion, because it's biased
Is the 2017 Falcons Patriots Super Bowl
Because it was a sweet, sweet
Victory to come from behind.
And obviously, Julian, you had the greatest catch of all time, in my opinion.
I mean, that's a pretty crazy game.
I will say, now we've selected...
From Roseville. That's not even a Bostonian.
Shout out to Bruce from Roseville.
Probably a parent.
A lot of calls from all over the places. It's cool.
Probably a parent from like wusta or
something i love it hey shout out to teddy bruski when we're talking roseville california teddy
bruski we got to get him on in person we got to get teddy back so while we we didn't teddy's
intensity will he you might you might get scared kyler on your scoring system shit well i don't
have to get scared anymore because they're allowed to score freely with influence and we've protected it from the back end but i will say a lot of by far the most calls and most
examples of the greatest game of all time from the fans was this game there was probably maybe
about like 50 callers just said this game we didn't obviously put all 50 because that would
be a lot but um from our fans this is unquestionably the fan favorite for best game of all time.
Makes sense. We also have
a hard Patriots bias. I don't think so.
I think we got some others. I think so, too,
but I just think our fans are...
If we had a
look at some demographics, I'd say we're
a lot of Patriots fans.
Hey, what's up, Jules? This is K.O. Farm from Baltimore.
Baltimore. The greatest game of all time
is game five of the 95 divisional series between the Mariners and the Yankees. You have the main character Baltimore.
I can't wait to see this. Jesus. The pitchers Eber and Reddy Johnson coming in and gutting out the 9th, 10th, and 11th after pitching seven innings two days before.
Jesus.
We have a Game 5 win in a series that literally forced local officials
to keep baseball in Seattle.
Not to mention appearances from David Cohn, Mariano Rivera,
and the spread of talent in New York at the time.
This game has the names, the moments, and the narrative.
It is simply the greatest.
Way to stick your games, baby.
For baseball, that's great.
I think this is the high watermark for baseball.
Mid to late 90s baseball.
Gosh.
Damn, that Yankees team was so good.
Randy Johnson.
How did that Mariners team never win a championship?
I know.
Griffey, Johnson, Martinez, Alex Rodriguez. Baseball's tricky, man.
Because it's like those Braves in the 90s.
They only got one.
They had like the best pitching ever.
Yeah.
Right?
Dude.
Maddox, Schultz.
Glavin.
Glavin.
From Bill Ricker.
Great hockey player.
You know who I saw in Bahamas?
Who?
Chipper Jones.
No way.
And I was literally talking
with the guy
on the craps table
who was working it.
We were talking
and he was watching
the baseball game
kinda
while he was,
you know,
I was like,
who's your team?
He goes,
I love the Braves.
I go,
dude,
I used to fucking hate
Chipper Jones
because all he did
was tear our fucking face off
in San Francisco.
And then
10 minutes later Chipper jones walks in
simulation simulation and he was such a gentleman that rocks do you guys chop it up oh we chopped
it up a little bro you manifested chipper jones that is wild chip you never know it's a great
baseball name now you just gotta now you just got to manifest Tom Brady. Andrew Jones.
I love Chipper and Andrew Jones was always fun.
The Jones brothers.
Yeah, John Smoltz.
Those Braves teams were fun.
They were great.
Yeah.
Mama said it's when Bobby Boucher showed up at halftime
and the Muck Dogs won the bourbon bowl.
Love that game.
Great game.
This guy makes a good point.
Had some star power.
I like this guy.
Do you remember?
And that's why you don't do drugs.
Coming from Lawrence Taylor.
Want Lawrence Taylor on here too.
Awesome.
Oh, my God.
By the way.
Need to get LT.
Got to get LT.
That would be incredible.
Hey, Jules.
Best game of all time.
I mean, as a hockey fan,
I got to go with the Bruins game seven over the Leafs.
2013, down 4-1 with 10 minutes and 42 seconds left to go in the game.
Nathan Horton scores for 10 minutes,
followed by two goals with the goalie pulled.
Patrice Bergeron scoring the tying goal.
Leland Lucci scoring the third goal.
And then, of course, the GOAT, Patrice Bergeron scoring the tying goal. Lelon Lucci scoring the third goal. And then, of course, the GOAT, Patrice Bergeron, in overtime,
sending the Bruins on to the second round.
What a comeback.
Go Bruins.
Go Boston.
Go Pats.
See you later, Jules.
Dude, I remember that game.
That was a great game.
Because we were out in Boston.
You know what I mean?
I think that was in Toronto. No, wasn't in that was that was in toronto
or no it was in boston it was in boston yeah it was 2011 it was on their cup run it was 2013
he might be wrong you might be wrong yeah yeah it was 11 um i drank and i know i'm not supposed to
but sean thornton was hosting the sir stanley cup and i drank some beer out of it i'm a big
like stickler for like the
sanctity and the cultural nature and the rules around the Stanley Cup I think you
being a Super Bowl champion I wasn't a Super Bowl champion at the time oh well
then fuck you maybe maybe sir Stanley ignited it maybe that was how they want
to stand the cup that year. We'll look it up.
We should get him on.
I wonder if he's still in Boston when we go to Boston.
Maybe we can record some episodes.
This is a great game.
Down 4-1.
Down 28-3.
Down three games to none.
Fucking Boston.
No sports.
Don't bet against Boston. Hell yeah. All right. Let's get back to these. Fucking Boston Dolphins. Don't bet against Boston.
Hell yeah. Alright, let's get
back to these. Paul Pierce, did he
shit his pants?
No points.
Okay, 30 to
21. Let's see it. Let's get to
it, baby. Number 30, Squish the Fish.
1985 AFC Championship
Patriots Dolphins with Gary Goldman.
Number 30.
This one dropped seven spots in the rankings to bring us to a 7.56 total score. I mean, what?
What a-hole.
Jack.
What?
6, 7, 5.
What did I put?
8, 2.
Yeah.
8, 7, 8.
I'm a little Russian judging here.
Name is Squish the Fish.
That's a great name.
I don't know why I put that in.
That was like a huge thing for the Patriots after that.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But it's not entirely fair to give that game all of Squish the Fish.
Squish the Fish was kind of bigger and not just a game.
I think that's where it started, though.
That's where it originated.
Yeah, it might have.
Yeah.
Yeah, a little low there.
You know, I want to say, I've been catching a lot of shit for being Mr. Poopypants on
scores, and look at these scores on Jack. Some bullshit. on jack some bullshit hater low-key closeted hater
number 29 the almost tie game this one dropped 23 spots yeah sorry mad max yeah uh this was 2022
week 18 chargers raiders a short-lived time in the top 10. A short-lived time. Hey, you're there for a minute.
Yeah, dude.
Starpower, I went hella low here.
Sorry, guys.
Why?
Jack hates Brandon Staley.
Yeah, sorry.
That's a negative pointer?
Yeah, RIP Brandon Staley.
Not every play caller's a good head coach.
Words to live by. Which is how it goes.
The Peter's principle.
Words to live by.
Number 28.
Corey Dillon?
Shout out to Corey Dillon. Marshall Falk. I wasple. Words to live by. Number 28. Corey Dillon. Shout out to Corey Dillon.
Marshall Falk.
I was saying Marshall Falk.
Marshall Falk.
Love Corey Dillon, but Marshall Falk, man.
He's Batman 8,000, thousand.
All right.
The double doink.
2019 NFC wildcard game.
I gave it an 8.5.
Eagles Bears.
It's a great name.
Great name.
I gave it a 9.3.
Yeah, I gave it a 9.
Flat.
Shout out to the Long Brothers.
This went down one spot in our ranking
So we were all pretty
Yeah
Pretty much in agreement
Did they grade this one?
They did
No
No
This was us yeah
Back in the day
27
Star Power
I guess there was no quarterback
Yeah Mitch Trubisky
And then the
Was it Nick Foles too?
And then Nick Foles yeah
That's true
27 was
The Super Bowl 56 Rams-Bangles.
We did this one with Andrew Whitworth, the farewell Andrew Whitworth.
27, dropped 10 spots to net us out at a 7.64.
A random hit it and quit it for the Rams, you know.
Yeah.
Sounds about right.
It does.
Spangles, too.
Jack with a two.
Jack, you love throwing out the two on names.
There's just no name.
There's no name.
No, it's true.
But I just went super hard on the no name there.
26 was the Cowboys-Bills Super Bowl with Michael Irvin.
How about them Cowboys?
How about them Cowboys?
That was with Coach Jimmy Johnson, man.
Mike Jackson on the halftime show.
You rode out of a casino with Jimmy Johnson.
That's all you hear.
How about them cowboys?
Is Jimmy Johnson like a ring on his pinky guy?
Jimmy Johnson, I'll tell you right now,
has probably the most electric hairline I've ever seen.
I was just going to say, how is the hair off camera?
We went on and we did a Survivor thing as a team.
Like, we did, like, the whole...
And Jimmy, he was on Survivor.
So, like, if you would take a look at Jimmy
when he was on Survivor, like, 30 years ago or 20 years ago,
and now, I mean, the guy was, like, fooling it,
looked the same.
Dude, he was actually...
He was on the real Survivor?
Oh, he was on the real Survivor.
Oh, I didn't know that.
Like, A celebrity edition
Wow
This game did not change
I think it went pretty far too
Nope
Hell yeah
No change in ranking
Zero change
Yeah
Wow
Cool
Number 25
We're into the top 25, folks
We gotta go a little bit faster
Alright, let's hurry through these
Can they can't wait game
2011 AFC Division Round
Boo
Jets, Patriots, Rich Eisen
Can't wait
This one dropped six spots negative six
points yeah six uh negative six change the fact that this is in the top 25 irks me yeah yeah um
i will say i am guilty of using the gif of this sometimes with with bart scott saying that but
it pains me it was pretty it's pretty badass to be a fucking team. Yeah. To go in, in Foxboro, beat the shit out of camp.
Like, that's, I give them that.
Yeah, tip your hat sometimes.
Speaking of hit it and quit it, that was a Jets hit it and quit it moment.
Yeah.
They didn't get to it.
They fouled it and cream it.
Yeah, something.
Super Bowl XXI, Giants-Broncos.
Ty Law.
Phil Simms, number 24, Ty Law. Phil Simms.
Number 24, Ty Law.
Phil Simms was with us this episode.
Ken Griffey.
Ken Griffey also.
Nice.
Yeah, a bit of a dominating win there by the Giants.
Moved up six spots.
7.72.
Seems a little high, but...
It has the...
We're going to Disney World.
This is the start.
I mean, this is the first we're going to Disneyney world this is i mean this is the first we're
going to disney world this is was that world was it world or land land land at the time probably
where was it at where was the game at it was at the rose bowl so probably disney land yeah um
it is a 7.72 moving on to the michael jordan the 23 23rd ranked game. Elway versus Montana, 1994, week seven.
Who cares if it's a regular season game?
It's in the top 25.
This is different.
No, I agree.
This is Montana versus Elway.
It's a Mount Rushmore game.
Monday night football, be there, be square.
Put on your starter jacket.
Goat when he retired.
Goat when he retired.
Montana's last time playing Elway.
This was a heck of a game.
This was spectacular.
Only moved down one spot.
Yep, going into mile high, getting a big win.
Number 22, 2005 NBA Finals, Game 5, Spurs-Pistons with Robert Uri,
Big Shot Bob.
No change.
7.9, no change.
Honestly thought this might have dropped just because it's a Game 5,
not a Game 7.
Yeah.
Feels a little weird
Being in the top 25
But went into overtime
Big Shot Bob
Did Big Shot Bob things
It was
Come on
Consistence all the way through
Right
Like
Name
Name is whatever
But like gameplay
Star power stakes
Were all pretty
In a good spot
Big Shot Bob's a great name
It's a great name
Yeah
And then we all remember
I mean
Robert Orys remember for
Like For this game.
Doing this stuff.
Yeah.
All the time.
Put the man in the Hall of Fame.
21.
Would this be our Fred Taylor game?
21?
Deion Sanders?
Prime.
Prime.
Love Fred Taylor.
Youth football joy.
All I know is 21.
Prime time.
I mean, it was in my email because of him.
21 is Super Bowl 53.
Rams, Patriots, 13-3 win.
Jules MVP.
This is an 8.03.
Another no change in the rank.
Yeah, that's pretty boring.
We're kind of honing in on some of these last ones.
Back to the hotline.
Hotline.
Let's see what the fans are saying.
Hey, this is zach from
new hampshire my homer pick for greatest game of all time week 13 2003 patriots at colt huge game
patriots go up 31 to 10 colt come back tie it up 31 all and of course the pats make a goal line
stand to end the game and ultimately
get home field advantage and win
their second Super Bowl in three
years. Best game all time.
Sneak Pat.
In category of regular season games
that's in there. It's up there. Yeah.
Those kind of cool comebacks. Goal line
stand. Willie McGinnis. Not a lot of games
in a goal line stand. And you got Brady
Payton.
Heidi Payton. Heidi Brady line stands. And you got Brady, Peyton. Heidi Peyton.
Heidi Brady Peyton.
Height.
Yeah, and this was before the Dynasty, right?
This is only one Super Bowl.
This was before he was Tom motherfucking Brady.
Great point.
Not a lot of games in on goal line stands.
All right, let's hear another fan's greatest game of all time.
Jules, Ray Hudson here.
Calling about the greatest game.
First off, long-time listener, first time listener first time caller i'm gonna have to
go with fortnite original map risky reels work away over to lazy links occasional hot hot drop
to tilt the towers boys together end of the day can't beat it you are talking my love where are
we dropping boys i'm talking that's the exact location you had to go
what was the one
when this thing first came out before it became
way too crazy with the building
and editing and all this shit
I was hooked on it
4 or 5 guys on the team
I used to call Adam Butler
because Adam Butler was hella good
I'd be like yo Adam you on?
he's like yeah man let's go
because previous older guys we were playing Cod Because Adam Butler was hella good. I'd be like, yo, Adam, you on? He's like, yeah, man, let's go.
Because previous older guys, we were playing COD.
But when this came out, the original map, spectacular.
Who was in the COD crew?
Randy was in it.
Wow, really?
Yeah, everyone was in it.
Orenberger, Shane Vereen, Tyler Gaffney.
But I remember when I was the younger, I was like one of the rookies,
and Randy would come play on with us.
And you'd see Randy's guy in the fucking Battle Royale.
He'd be looking at the sky and shit, and Randy'd be,
oh, man, this shit is hella good.
And then fast forward to when I was the old guy playing these Fortnite's with the fucking younger guys.
I was a slapdick.
It's crazy.
I don't know if you're...
When you're born and you start out with three buttons,
these kids, they're starting out with the triggers and stuff.
Your dexterity's developed quicker at a younger age.
Time comes for everybody, baby.
Comes for everybody.
Jug jugs for the boys, though.
If you could score this
game, what would you score it?
What's the star power? What? What's the stakes
of Fortnite original map?
Stakes would be low.
Actually, stakes at the time were high because when you
got a fucking win
with your boys
for like the first time.
I remember we all used to take pictures of it.
You need to take a picture of the victory.
Number one victory. Number one. Victory Royale. Yeah, I remember we all used to take pictures of it. You need to take a picture of the victory. Number one victory.
Number one.
Victory Royale.
Yeah, Fortnite is about to go down.
Be doing a little dance and shit.
Emoting.
Oh my God.
God, I want to play some Fortnite now.
This game of all time, in my opinion, is the miracle in Motown, whatever it's called.
December 3rd, 2015. The Packers were trailing late in the game.
They ended up coming back and beating the Lions.
When time expired, we got to throw a Hail Mary and we won the game.
Go Pack Go.
Was that the one with the double Hail Mary?
December 3rd.
It won NFL Play of the Year Award.
Was it a Hail Mary?
Yeah, it was Aaron Rodgers.
Aaron Rodgers won one of his five Hail Marys.
61-yard Hail Mary past the end zone.
Caught by tight end Richard Rodgers for the game-winning touchdown.
That'd be a good one to do.
I like that.
Love a nice NFC North game.
Although, I hate when an NFC North game is played in Detroit
because they all need to be outside.
And I hate when it's indoors late in the season. I completely even though i tore my acl in detroit and i hate that fucking
field but that new stadium which is probably this this one yeah the ford the ford built in an old
factory it's like underground it's fucking sick so for indoor stadium spectrum it's still pretty badass yeah
you don't think it's like a i mean you know the old one was just like a yeah but it's like an
old factory they like it's just i think that's cool wait so we're gonna have three out of four
in a we're gonna have bears will be indoors lions will be indoors pack will be outdoors
vikings indoors like they've always been indoors. Three out of four
indoors now. It's cold out there. Is Bears
full? I know they released the plans. Wait, aren't they doing a new one?
They're doing a new stadium in Chicago. Are they making it
outdoors or indoors? I think it's indoors. Is it?
I thought that was one of the coolest stadiums
we played in. Soldier Field. I know. Soldier Field.
And they renovated it. So it looked like a UFO.
Yeah, it looked awesome. I don't know. It just felt
cool. And I
don't know. It felt old, but it was kind of new.
It's kind of like what they did with Fenway where it still has the old charm,
but it's like slightly more better amenities.
All right, last one here.
And the long time is the Patriots come back versus the Atlanta Falcons
and the Super Bowl.
You need to throw you when they came back and beat the Atlanta Falcons
and Julian Adelman in that best catch in the game.
And then Tom Brady threw for the rest of the passing touchdowns.
And then they ran in for the rushing touchdown to score in overtime to win the game.
And then the next year they lost to the Philadelphia Eagles with the set.
How old is this kid?
Why'd you have to throw in the last part, bro?
It makes me feel bad for swearing.
How old is this kid? He's a good kid. I don last part, bro? It makes you feel bad for swearing. How old is this kid?
He's a good kid.
I don't know.
It sounded like he just came in from playing, though.
Like it was that still out of breath,
like ready to take a huge swig of a Gatorade
and get your whole story out at once.
This is like going out and playing for a kid this day and age.
Yeah, right.
He just got off a sweaty match of Fortnite
and his mom gave him two seconds left
to go out and
fucking go out and to eat dinner and he's like i gotta get this in real quick let me call this in
mom i gotta call the games with names outline hold on i like this guy
i love him call back in bubs amen sunny d
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We're in the top 20.
Let's go, baby.
Top 20.
20, the Iron Man match, WrestleMania.
Iron Man match.
12, Shawn Michaels, Bret Hart from the old pond in Anaheim, California.
8.04.
Kyler.
Drop in, seven spots.
6.7, Kyler.
Yeah.
Stakes, 2.1, Kyler. It's written. No, it's not. It in. Seven spots. 6-7, Kyler? Yeah. Stakes 2.1, Kyler?
It's written.
No, it's not.
Hold on.
These are still higher than my 2.1.
It's still higher than Jack's two bullshit on every single game that doesn't have a cool name.
I'm going to match a pretty cool name.
Stakes are 2-1.
Yeah.
It was determined ahead of time.
All right, bro.
All right, moving.
Are we including the stakes in the writer's room beforehand?
Hey, what if we did the longest match yet?
What if we did this?
It's real.
Still got to go and execute.
It's fucking real.
And that's why I gave the game play and I put one.
Oh, very good.
Good point.
19.
We're inside the top 20.
Brandon LaFell.
Brandon LaFell.
We love you, JoJo.
Super Bowl 54.
49ers Chiefs.
Heidi Gardner in the building.
I know.
Jules was in the building for that game.
Drop 10 spots down in Miami.
Drop 10 spots.
Sorry,
Heidi.
8.06 was the total score.
How does this feel,
fellas?
That feels okay.
I mean,
it's the kickoff of their dynasty.
Yeah,
that's true.
We're catching a little bit of shit from our fans,
and I think it's true that all the Chiefs games that we cover
are only from fans and not from players.
So we might need to hit the old talent book
or get some Chief players of this dynasty to come talk about some games.
We're going to get Travis Kelce on this bad boy.
That'd be tight, man.
Maybe get Rasheed Rice to I text over here. I text him
Sorry too soon too soon
All right, what's Travis? I
Didn't want to just fucking ask him. I say you want to come hang out maybe then you know kind of
Did he big-time
Big time he said he was busy? He didn't big time me.
He said he was busy.
He just signed a new deal.
The highest paid tenant.
How much?
I don't think the numbers came out, but they said high.
I think it was $34 million.
Yeah, but I don't know how many years.
That would be probably like two years maybe.
I think two years.
Good for him.
Hey, you know, you manifest. Pepper Jones will manifest Travis Kelsey.
Also, Patrick said he'd do it.
We're just scheduling.
I would love to get Pat on and talk to him.
I have a couple stories I would love to break down with Patrick Mahomes.
Pre-Patrick Mahomes at a Super Bowl, together hanging out as backup Patrick Mahomes.
That's crazy.
You got him before he was the man.
Let's all agree to have this show last long enough for when Andy Reid retires,
we get him on here because that would be.
Andy Reid would be awesome.
Awesome.
What would you do for the food spread for Andy Reid?
Food spread?
I mean, cheeseburgers comes to mind.
Just wear Hawaiian shirts.
You going to pass those nuggies?
Those little fingers?
So funny.
He's a great actor.
He's a great actor. Oh, okay. I think you you gotta go with the smorgasbord of just you gotta have a bunch of good handhelds you gotta have
like a fried chicken sandwich you gotta have a burger i'd even throw in like a great french dip
maybe have like hillstones or houston's or r&d kitchen we get one of those i mean a deviled egg
or two like he he probably likes your thing with deviled egg or two. Like, he probably likes...
Your thing with deviled eggs is...
I love deviled eggs.
It's crazy.
Bro, those ones at Hillstone the other day?
Oh, I'm still thinking about them.
I'm still thinking about them.
Are you actually still thinking about them?
Yes, I did the other day.
I did the other day.
Okay, all right, just checking.
18, Peyton Manning.
UFC 229, Khabib McGregor.
8.08, we had Dana White in here with us doing that one.
A lot of people love this episode.
It was a fan favorite.
One of the fan favorites.
It's jumped 15 spots, which I think deservedly so.
It deserves.
For sure.
18 is a great number, too.
It is.
Time.
I love it.
17, the Phillip Rivers game here.
The 2011 NBA Finals Game 6.
Mark Cuban dropped 14 spots.
What's the total score?
The total score is now an 8.13.
From a 9.5.
Still feels high.
Dropped 14 spots, yeah.
Still feels high.
The dirty dirt game.
The old rank was third, too, so.
This feels maybe a little bit high, but it feels okay here.
We're on the right track.
We're making progress.
I mean, that's a big upset, beat those Heat teams.
Yeah, big time.
That was a huge three guys.
And only in six games, too.
Very big, big three.
Number 16.
Montana.
Wide right.
Wide right.
Super Bowl 25.
Bills Giants.
Tom Papa was in studio with us reliving
that one 8.32
the name is doing a lot of heavy lifting
here the name is
I mean we're still talking about it
stakes too here yeah stakes and name
I just got to say one thing Tom
Papa I went and did his show and he
his podcast
what is it called breaking bread
breaking bread and he he bakes everyone
a homemade loaf of bread that's so kind thoughtful brought that loaf home and i i cut it up for lily
in the morning for for toast she hadn't stopped asking about it she goes dad can we have that
bread i go uh i'm not a guy that lies to the kid. You know, I don't...
One of my friends, one of those guys,
is he a friend, not a friend?
A guy's podcast I went on to that
gave me this bread. I don't think
he can just make it for me every day.
So he goes, Dad, well, I love that bread.
It was a sourdough. It was good.
Very good. Oh, my God. Lily might have to get
Tom on the phone.
That's a ringing endorsement.
Hey, I walked in.
So Tom has daughters.
So I know he understands that.
It's tough when I can't give my daughter a Tom Papa loaf of bread.
Damn.
Tommy B might have to start marketing that stuff or selling it or something.
Dude.
That is awesome.
That's a great present for people when they could.
Like, that takes time. You think about that that it's thoughtful it was i mean it was spectacular
now you're in a precarious situation though yeah i know you gotta learn i lie to my child thanks
papa you'll lie yeah this tom papa's bread no it doesn't taste like it dad all right moving on number 15 the double comeback wow 2014 afc divisional round ravens
patriots seems a little high the double pass the double comeback seems a little yeah i mean i don't
know it is up 12 spots from last time to me this is like a top 10 game for sure yeah um an 8.33
overall divisional round game guys yeah gameplay is great star
power is good and there's a legacy to it granted we are biased patriot fans for sure um but as for
a non-super people don't realize this was a uh this was a rivalry oh this was a rivalry for a
good seven eight years oh yeah ravens patri. Could have even been longer before I was there
because Ray would always
give us trouble.
For sure.
But, like,
they had no problem
coming into Foxborough
and playing us.
They beat our ass
in Foxborough twice.
Was it twice?
Maybe.
I remember the game
you balled out.
They should have won, too.
But 2009,
and then there was another one.
They beat us.
They beat us twice
in Foxborough in the playoffs.
So there was a lot of, like, I don't know, maybe that's biased.
I think it could be a little low.
I think it should be closer to 50.
I think it's closer to one.
I don't know what to say.
Is it higher or is it supposed to be lower?
I think this is a good spot for it.
Baltimore going into New England is a lot like New England going into San Diego.
We just have their fucking number.
Don't give a shit.
Don't care about the seedings.
Good comp.
You got to empty the playbook on that one.
That's not a good comp.
Because San Diego never beat us.
We'd still beat the Ravens.
And then the Ravens would beat us.
I guess that's true.
I was just thinking of having to dig super deep.
We played the San Diego Superchargers in an AFC championship
with like a depleted team.
What was the score?
37 to fucking six?
When every person on TV had the charge.
They came into Foxborough.
Ran it down their throat.
And it was cold.
Like, they lost before the game even started.
It was a
january game no they're not the ravens patriots that's no i'm saying i'm saying i'm not saying
that the rivalry is the same i'm saying the fact of a lower ranked team coming into but i guess the
big difference is new england is generally hostile where qualcomm was never really a hostile actually
qualcomm got hostile did it
yeah dude we played there in what 13 that's what sparked the run for us to go win the super bowl
that year or 14 when we went out and lost to the packers and we stayed in san diego for a week
that played dude chargers fans love chargers like the san diego chargers i know they don't love the
la chargers anymore but there was a charm about going to San Diego.
Those people
in San Diego,
at least,
it was a shithole
fucking stadium.
I mean,
the locker room.
Yeah.
You're shitting with dudes
right next to you.
No stall things.
Like,
it's so weird
when you're shitting
next to the dude
and you're both wiping
and one's a lefty
and one's a righty
so you have to look
at each other
while you're shitting.
You know how tough that is pregame?
I guess it's an intimidation factor.
Oh, my God.
Fans loved it there.
That's all I got to say.
On the toilet talking about parting my reach.
Great grass.
Love the grass.
69-yard touchdown if my memory serves right.
We're big fans.
We talked about that, I think, with Gronk, remember?
Yep.
We manifested that fucking play.
I manifested it for Gronk because I knew it would be a 69-yard touchdown.
So I'm like, Gronk, let's hit that 69-yard touchdown.
I just so happen got it.
All right, 14.
The shrug game, 1992 NBA Finals.
Game one, Blazers versus Bulls.
With Gail Mitchell Mitchell a recent episode
dropped nine spots in the rankings
8.37 overall
the name is doing a lot of heavy lifting
on this one so and finals
and the finals and Jordan
I mean that's been mean on everything
that was a meme before memes
were even big oh yeah
feels right feels right 13
Dan Marino the bush push oh
five week six usc versus notre dame oh this one hurts but 8.39 um this feels high it moved up five
the name does a lot of a lot of the lifting name does the lifting on this yeah and the stakes they
were on a huge winning streak at the time. Star power. Gameplay was good.
Yeah.
This was a great college football game.
Shout out Charlie Weiss.
Yep.
Number 12, Tom Brady.
18 and 1.
There you go.
Isn't that fitting?
Oh, boy.
Super Bowl 35, 37?
Jack, you sunk this, you skunk.
Oh, I hate this game.
Patriots versus Giants.
Jack gave it a 1 on gameplay
That's the biggest Homer score ever
You fucking skunk Jack
I'm sorry
Homer
8.47
Still almost in the top 10
I mean it's
Dropped 8 spots
This should be higher
This should be
Closer to 1
Jack
So now we know
Where the lack of integrity
Has been this whole time
Hey that's a Homer score
Just right next to the one.
I can't even get mad at Giants fans when they say shit to us.
No, it's just they did it.
And I wasn't even a part of that one.
That's what people, oh, 8-2-1.
I was like, I was in fucking college, bro.
But you guys did get me when I was in the league, too.
Yeah, sure.
Go 9-7 and get lucky.
I got to say I hate this game as a Patriots fan,
but this episode was pretty
cathartic and listening to teddy bruski and then also thinking of it from the perspective that had
the patriots won this game might not created the second dynasty it might have just shifted what tom
brady was about how much he wanted to do what he wanted to you know so i think that there's some
compelling evidence that would you trade this for the second dynasty?
Probably not from my perspective.
So there's a catharticness to this.
He said he would trade it for two Super Bowls, I think.
Yeah.
Which is kind of there.
Yeah.
Number 11.
Which honestly.
Drew Bledsoe.
The sticks.
Drew Bledsoe.
Number 11.
We're almost in the top 10.
2003.
AFC Championship. Col vs. Patriots.
High five.
High low.
And the long one.
You know, go back to high low and ha.
That was a fun episode.
That was a fun episode.
Shot o'clock.
Shot o'clock.
Jesus.
It was 11 o'clock This This dropped nine places
Which I think feels right
AFC Championship game
Game plays whatever
Yep
But
So we're almost in the top ten
Stay tuned
Yeah okay
Back to the hotline break
We are going to talk about
A little bit of game recs
Here now though
Shift to
Shift to the hair
Let's do it baby
Hey
Games with me
This is
This is,
this is the advice line,
huh?
Well, I got some advice for you guys.
You guys keep doing all these games
that we all watch on TV.
What's an insider information?
What's an insider facts and shit that we don't know?
Let me just keep eating.
I'll be back and having a good time.
We know all that stuff.
We were watching the game too.
We know how they play.
I thought we could How about we go
way back?
Talk about 1998.
Super Bowl run.
Redwood City,
49th. Stop the
Naperville, huh? Stop some
weird team in Texas.
I don't remember his name.
Let's get Jules and get some of the
old ball coaches on there.
Maybe we get Frank on there.
All right?
And Kyler.
We're flying up the beer, huh?
If you're going to be on the show.
Okay, let's get a little Clippers to that thing.
Don't even get me started on old Jackie Birdwatcher.
All right, that's just my season.
Yo.
This is your boy, Rock.
Rock coming on.
Rock coming for next, bro.
Jackie Bird.
Bro, what is this?
Tyler, you're hiring people, dude.
That's a bot.
He ripped on me.
He ripped on me.
Rock, I got a couple birds for you.
The reason I have a bird is so I don't have to shave.
I'll hit you with that New York salute, Rock.
Let's not bury the lead.
A little foreshadowing.
Oh, yeah.
Foreshadow.
Maybe Frank might come on.
We got a Frank episode in the bank coming here soon.
Maybe he's here today and maybe we're recording this soon.
Who knows?
All right, Rock.
That'll be fun.
Jules and Jackie, what's up, boys?
I got a game for you.
March 26, 1997.
Joe Louis Arena.
Aaron McCarty.
That's the best I could do for that part.
But one of the greatest fights in NHL history.
It was a big lead-up from a dirty hit that was on Chris Draper earlier in the season.
And the Wings were just waiting for this moment for a very, very long time.
And they got their moment.
Then all hell broke loose.
And I think it would make a great game with names.
Darren McCarty would probably be the guy to interview.
And I'm a huge fan.
Love what you guys do with the pod.
Keep up the good work and hopefully soon enough,
we'll see this Red Wings Avalanche on the pod.
Thanks a lot, fellas.
Take care.
I like that.
Old school hockey, Kyler.
What are you doing? Kyler is like, oh, let's do it.
No, no, no.
There's a little bit of a, there's a bit of a grassroots,
not campaign, but this is a sneaky under the radar,
people wrecking this game.
The Avalanche and the Red Wings of this era were both very good,
and it's also like old-school hockey where there's like Darren McCarty,
like toothless.
Got to check it out.
Yeah.
I would love to do it.
There's a lot of fights.
I'm down.
This will be a fun game.
I don't necessarily love this as the representation of NHL,
but this is a fun time.
These are fun teams, and this is a crazy game.
We should do that at some point.
Week one, 2009. Patriots versus Bills. This is a fun time. These are fun teams, and this is a crazy game. We should do that at some point.
Week one, 2009, Patriots versus Bills.
Brady's looking a little shaky.
He's got that ACL injury.
Is it going to affect him? I remember this.
Affected him for most of the game.
Didn't affect him with the last minute 16,
where he threw two touchdown passes to Ben Watson.
Leotis McKelvin.
He's got that game up, and everyone in New England's always buying
Leotis McKelvin a drink for his New England is always buying Leotis McKelvin a drink
for his return out of the end zone for some damn
reason. Jules, love the show.
Jack, Kyler, love it, guys. Keep it up.
Hell yeah. That'd be a fun
game. That'd be awesome. That's a fun one.
We gotta get Scareweather.
Random Airweather. He forced that
fumble on me.
I remember this game because I
housed a punt week one in the preseason.
And so week two in the preseason, I get a really bad high ankle sprain.
So I'm sitting there like I'm not making the team.
You know what I mean?
Because you can't make the club in the tub.
I was in the tub.
And the whole week before cuts, Billy O'Brien's fucking with me like because
he knew I was gonna make the team but he he knew that I didn't think I was gonna make the team he's
like man cut days like he would just say some shit like that get me all fucking scared and so I make
the team but I didn't dress for this game so I was at home watching the game and that was the first experience
I saw of like Tom Brady doing some Tom Brady shit like we were down two touchdowns like
a minute to go in the game we you know like it was his first game back from the ACL there
were some things you know offense wasn't going great but when it was net cut in time Tom
hit Watson on those two bangers down the
middle of the field against covered two i was watching on his head like oh my god this is so
crazy i'm on this team like fuck it was nuts oh my god we gotta do that that's awesome we do we are
getting to a problem where we have a lot of patriots fans and players and we're like having
to like allocate which games are going to who and this kind of stuff.
So it's good to have some more like,
like more like oral history,
fun Patriots games in the,
in the mix.
All right.
Last game rec.
Julian,
I want to hear some of the biggest games of your childhood.
What were some of the games that left an impression on you?
I know you grew up in the Bay Area, probably a Niners fan.
I'm a Niners fan.
I want to hear what some of the biggest games to you when you were growing up,
probably the Niners, NFC Championships of 92, 93, 94.
I think those would be awesome games with names contested.
So, I don't know.
I'd love to see some Niners games on there.
All right.
You have a good night.
Bye.
Definitely got to get some Niners games on.
I got a Niner game that just always sticks out,
especially in my childhood.
It was in the divisional round against the Packers.
Packers Niners used to meet every year in the divisional round,
and Brett Favre would send us home.
And this was the year Terrell Owens, T.O., goes,
and he had a couple drops early in the game,
and then it was like the last play of the game.
Steve almost stumbles, fucking zings it to fucking down the middle of the field to T.O.
T.O. catches it, gets banged twice in the end zone game.
Like, that's the one game I remember as a kid.
I was like, oh, shit.
Is that the catch two game?
No, it was the one where he caught in the middle,
down the middle of the field, and we finally beat freaking the Packers.
I think we won the Super Bowl.
We didn't win the Super Bowl that year.
It was a later one.
But it was insane. We're definitely going to get some of We didn't win the Super Bowl. That was a later one. But it was insane.
We're definitely going to get some of these.
Who was the quarterback?
Was it Jeff Garcia?
No, it was Steve Young.
Okay.
Yeah, from that era.
We got to get that era.
I would love to get Roger Craig.
I would love to get Tom Rathman, Brent Jones.
We're going to get Montana here.
I'm going to do whatever we can to get Montana.
He'll be fun.
And I've met him a couple times, and he's just fucking Joe Cool.
I mean, my dog was named after him.
So, like, we're going to get some Niner games.
That's a promise.
That's an absolute promise.
Love that.
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Okay, let's reveal the top 10 of games with names.
Oh, baby.
Rescoring extravaganza.
Oh, baby, here we go.
Drum roll, please.
Number 10, the wheelchair game, the 2008 NBA Finals.
Game one, Celtics versus Lakers.
We had Paul Pierce on.
This clocks in at an 8.56.
Feels right.
Jumps up 18 spots.
Jumps up 18 spots.
Top 10 game, come on.
We're in playoff season.
We're all Celtics homers, so that probably accounts for a little bit of it.
I'm not a Celtics homer. All right. I'm a Celtics homer. Yeah, we're everybody else but Kyler, Celtics homers, so that probably accounts for a little bit of it. I'm not a Celtics homer.
All right.
I'm a Celtics homer.
Yeah, we're everybody else but Kyler, Celtics homers.
Yeah.
It's got a lot of cachet to it.
It does.
It's a high-stakes environment.
There's a cultural component.
It's kind of sports lore.
Yes.
More so maybe than just pure.
There's a lot of backstory of what really happened that everyone's got to take on.
So you're right.
It lives on in lore.
That adds a lot to the score.
Number nine,
Immaculate Reception,
1972 AFC Divisional Round.
Raiders at Steelers.
Terry Bradshaw,
this comes in at an 8.56.
Dropped one spot.
Gameplay,
I hurt this one a little bit.
It was low scoring,
a little bit ugly,
but we all remember the epic last play there.
Frank Harris.
Yeah, I mean, this play,
everyone knows the name of this game.
This is a historic game.
Another elevator pitch type game.
This could be the game with a name.
For sure.
Literally.
This one, the casual fans know it.
RIP, Franco.
RIP. And it was a great episode. We had a great episode with Terry. That was awesome. I. It's when the casual fans know it. RIP, Franco. RIP.
And it was a great episode.
We had a great episode
with Terry.
That was awesome.
I mean, that was like
one of our first
70s guys,
you know,
that like,
he has these
unbelievable stories.
Terry's a fucking pro.
Pro.
I mean,
he was the best.
Awesome guy.
Awesome episode.
Hopefully we can get Terry back.
Terry did bust Brady's balls
that he
hadn't come on my podcast yet hell yeah terry did say man he was really impressed with you know the
games with names crew leah everyone like how he came in it was pro bang bang and we did get you
know we did get him fried chicken that's did get them fried chicken. That's worth it. Fried chicken. Best fried chicken in the city.
That was so good.
What was that fried chicken spot?
Honey kettle.
It was very good.
Hit the comment sections.
L.A., what's best fried chicken spot in L.A.?
Hell yeah.
Don't give me that Roscoe's.
That's a lazy answer.
That's a lazy answer.
Number eight.
Number eight.
The Ovechkin game.
The Antoine Walker game.
Patriots, Rams, Super Bowl 36.
This is with Ernie Adams.
The greatest show on turf, RIP.
The dynasty is born.
An overall score of 8.59.
It's moved up two spots.
Top ten.
Feels top ten worthy.
I mean, this is a great game.
Yeah.
I mean, we shocked the world.
I mean, no one thought they had a shot.
Nope.
Not a shot in hell.
Double-digit underdog coming into this one.
Double-digit.
That's never been done.
Double-digit underdog to win a Super Bowl.
Maybe the 18-1, actually.
That was the other one.
Oh, were they double?
It could have been 10 points.
But I think it was 10. You're right.
Yeah. Introduced
as a team. Brady.
The Brady legend is born here.
Feels fair. Number 7.
Super Bowl
24. Titans
versus... That's not 24.
No, not 24. That's 34.
34. Yes.
That was with Kurt Warner. The one-yard short game. Yeah, the reach game. That's 34? 34. Yes. That was with Kurt Warner.
The one-yard short game.
Yeah, the reach game.
That was a fucking electric ending.
Yeah.
8.60.
That was a good game.
That was a great game.
That was a great game.
I mean, they made that whole story with Kurt, how he came in and took over that team.
And that team, we don't even talk about defense defense is
fucking phenomenal london fletcher never missed a play in football love london fletcher and the
game even got referenced in castaway so you know it's got to be good if it gets also it's only
it's only it's only one hundredth of a point we're cutting hairs now it's only one hundredth
of a point between uh the patriots actually all three of these games were within.04 points of each other.
We're getting into the nitty-gritty.
Number six.
The Statue of Liberty game.
Wow.
The 2007 Fiesta Bowl.
Boise State versus Oklahoma with Jared Zabransky.
Up 19 spots.
And Adrian Peterson.
Up 19 spots.
We all realize this was ranked a little bit too low previously.
Now, this is our highest college game.
We'll see.
I think it should be.
It probably will be, thinking about the games we've done.
It should be.
I mean, this or...
Until we do 2005 USC Texas.
Which was the same.
No, it was 2005 or was it 2007?
No, it was 2005. It was 2005, I think. Because the Bush Which was the same. No, it was 2005 or is it 2007? No, it was 2005.
It was 2005, I think.
Because the Bush push was that year.
Yeah.
But it's close.
In the same era.
Because this also had a really good national championship this bowl season.
Was it Oklahoma, Florida?
Was this Tim Tebow-y?
This was USC Texas.
No.
Texas beat them.
Yeah. In the Rose Bowl. The same year. This is 2007. This was USC Texas No Texas beat them Yeah
In the Rose Bowl
The same year
This is 2007
Yeah but the game from
Hold on
Yeah but then that
07 year was
Also
The toast
I'm telling you
This was the same
It was on the same card
Of the bowl season
Cause it could be one of those
Crazy 2006
2007 games
Cause I don't think It played in 2007, but it was a 2006 season.
The year crap is always...
In 2005, the USC won the Natty.
And then 2006, they lost, but they played in 2007 because it's...
So this is on the same card.
Yeah, but the really good Vince Young game...
Is on this card.
No, it was 05. It's the 05 season played in 2006 right this is the 06 season played in 2007 this is the next year
or is the next so then that game was going to be floor that year so in the 2007 national title
it's confusing because it looks like it's also sponsored by tostitos, but it is not the Fiesta Bowl, which was also presented by Tostitos.
This was the 2007 Tostitos.
BCS National Championship game
in which Florida whooped Ohio State.
Yeah.
41-14.
And the Broncos were the years
the Boise State team
was the only undefeated team that year.
Either way, good game.
Worthy of being there.
That was a great game.
Yeah, this is an awesome game.
I also think from a stakes perspective perspective this is a game that has stakes that exist beyond like the
actual championship right because this is mid-major at the time small school but also a lot of in the
other another fashion oklahoma could be sitting there like fuck why aren't we in the natty
absolutely so they didn't play their hardest this was pre like guys didn't play in bowl games but
we talked about Agent Pearson.
He said he wanted to go out and win, you know.
You could also make a case that games like this really start laying the groundwork for what we have now in college football, which is a 12-team playoff.
Because, look, here's a bullshit wax school.
12-team playoff between professional teams.
That's right.
These guys over here.
So I love, this is my personal favorite game. I think this is a
great place for it. I think, you know, I'm glad
it got the 19
spot jump because it deserves to be here.
Great game. And now,
the moment you've all been waiting for.
Top five. Number five
on the list of
greatest games of all time so far
on our hunt is the
1999 Women's World cup china for the united
states played at the rose bowl did a lot for women's soccer did a lot for soccer in america
brady chastain all-time sports moment 8.73 total score this literally because this was i was
playing soccer in the early 90s our men's soccer team wasn't doing nothing nope these girls
were rock stars like and especially playing in china there was a whole wasn't there some
shit going on with us in china at that time it was a big there always is there's a big
it's us china us russia anytime pro sports are involved it gets it gets above and beyond
gets above and beyond and she took her shirt off in the 90s this ain't this ain't whap right now
where that shit's all right but it was also it wasn't even about like taking her that was the
celebration that all the guys were doing yes yeah but you know what i mean that's why it
sprung board yeah i think you sprung board women's sports in general you know especially
with what's going on with Kate and Clark. Absolutely.
Like, Kate, we've been unstoppable since then.
I mean, I know we lost a couple times.
Not choked, but they had a hard last one.
That was also political on, like, the team.
Like, they probably didn't,
they had to play the older girls.
That's how it goes.
It also speaks to the growth of women's sports
on a whole, that there's more parity.
At this time, it was just China, US, back and forth. And Canada was good. Yeah, but, like whole that there's more parody but this time it was just china us back and forth and canada was good yeah but like now is more yeah and that team was stacked
i had a sister that played soccer because of that me a ham garcia papara weren't they married yeah
no more baby no more my sister was at like 10 at this i wonder what their kids are up to
they gotta be athletes gotta be getting to be college age now we gotta look that one up look
that up.
Because those are two studs.
Oh, my God, yeah.
When this women's team played at Gillette,
it was a transformative experience for New England girls at this time, too.
100%.
My sister was like, oh, my God, me.
Ham looked at me.
It was like looking at fucking John Lennon.
It was crazy.
So this is a great place for this game.
And it was a great game, too, even though it was 0-0.
American icons, baby.
But in soccer, that's... Yeah And it was a great game too, even though it was 0-0. American icons, baby.
Yeah, it was back and forth.
There's nothing more stakes than penalty kicks in like a World Cup
soccer. Oh my god.
Ready for four.
Are we ready?
2004 ALCS. Game four.
Yankees, Red Sox.
The game that started one of the greatest comebacks
in postseason baseball history.
Wow. Baseball hitting top five.
Big poppy.
It's impressive.
8.88 on the total score.
I mean, this was a legendary game.
It was Boston-New York.
Boston-New York.
100-year rivalry and this whole snake-butt thing.
The whole Babe Ruth curse.
Curse the Bambino.
When he left for the yankees
to do this to the yankees also awesome this red sox team was like but the cop this is the cowboy
up here all rag tag johnny damon with long hair and a beard versus the shaved yankees the underdogs
and then and then not only is it an underdog like just yankees versus red sox actually how the
series played out going down out of the three they were just another level of a comeback on top of a comeback
that's probably top two top three comebacks of all comebacks yeah yeah yeah no doubt about it
i think this is a great place for this one it just needs it does need a good nickname it does but i
think that like it is one of the comments section we need to know what the nickname we need a good
name for this game but this game much like the 99 women's world cup is one of the comments section. We need to know what the nickname. We need a good name for this game.
But this game, much like the 99 Women's World Cup.
That's the only thing that really shut it down.
It's just like you just know it and it just impact.
It's just there.
But everyone does know 2004 ACLS.
Yeah.
Dave Roberts.
And I wouldn't even ACLS kid.
Yeah.
So clutch.
Number three.
We're getting down to it.
The Malcolm Butler.
Butler.
Seattle versus New England. The Super Bowl. three we're getting down to it the malcolm butler butler seattle versus new england the super bowl
we had a call about it earlier in the episode you know it feels right i think up 17 spots by the way
yeah it's worth noting at the time when this super bowl was in the books this was the largest
comeback in a super bowl and that ending i mean we'll remember this game for the rest of life
because of Malcolm's interception.
Like, that is a crazy, crazy ending.
It really is.
I mean, like, unheralded guy at the time to top of the sports world.
It's what makes sports great.
It really is.
Yeah.
Tom getting back, you know, getting back
on the train.
We went 10 years, that went to Super Bowl.
That's just insane. 10 years.
That'll never happen again. And I think
sometimes with games like this
where there's a specific moment, if you look
at the Immaculate Reception, like it was
kind of a whatever game until that big iconic
play. This game had an iconic
play with the Malcolm Butler interception, but also it was a whatever game until that big iconic play. This game had an iconic play with the Malcolm Butler interception.
But also, it was a great game back and forth.
I mean, it was a back-forth slugfest.
That catch.
Good defense.
I mean, there was a lot of crazy shit that went down in this game.
Great fight at the end.
Fight.
Bennett and Gronk.
I'm going to blow.
Maybe some slight New England bias on our end here but i think that this is i think time will look really favorably upon this game even people
it it's i mean it's all time for me so we just we also there could be other games that are better
you just haven't done them yet yeah i haven't done them yet great Yeah, haven't done them yet. Great point. Amen. Good caveat with yet. This is also our first game that enters the nine club.
This was a 9.08, previously 8.88 on the ALCS game.
So we're in the nines.
The snowmen.
Yep.
Three snowmen.
Shout out Young Jeezy.
Number two.
Number two.
We are close to one.
We can almost smell it.
Number two.
28-3. 28-3.
28-3.
Super Bowl 51, Falcons-Patriots.
9.23.
Tough to beat that.
Biggest comeback in Super Bowl history.
What do we think?
Up 14 spots.
Up 14 spots.
I like that part.
Jack, you almost gave it a perfect score.
Oh, my God, yeah.
Really, really, really close.
I mean, against all the odds and for everything to happen for that to happen,
I mean, I don't think that'll ever be done like that again.
No.
Yeah.
Gotta believe.
Gotta believe.
Gonna be a hell of a story.
It was a fucking hell of a story.
I mean, look, it's number two on the fucking list.
Deservedly so.
If I can be on Brandon's be slight poopy pants for a second i will say there's an argument here to me made that
gameplay isn't quite as good as it feels and the reason i say that is because it wasn't back and
forth per se like let's say the seahawks patriots game. Yeah, but there was driving by the offense and then all of a sudden a mistake or an interception or a fumble,
which, you know what I mean?
For sure, and I gave it a 9-8.
But the reason I didn't give it a 10 is because it was almost like two blowouts,
not quite because there's stakes involved in time, whatever,
but it was almost like Falcons time, then Patriots time.
See, I gave it a
you gave it a eight nine i gave it even more but great game amazing game amazing game and now
ladies and gentlemen what's number one the moment we have all been waiting for
we are unveiling our new number one from the first 50 games on our quest. Yeah.
The Super Blood Wolf Moon Game.
The 2018 AFC Championship Game.
Patriots go into Arrowhead and beat the Mahomes Chiefs on their way to a Super Bowl.
This is like a passing of the torch game.
It sure is.
A 9.39.
Now, it didn't change position. It did not. The old one is the new one. It sure is. 9.39. Now, it didn't change position.
So this is the same.
The old one is the new one.
It sure is.
But I think you nailed it, Jules, why this game is the number one.
It's because it's two dynasties butting each other up.
Butting each other up. A better way to put it.
Dick to butts, boys.
Back to back.
It's a passing the torch game.
What movie is that from?
Dick to butts, boys. It's got to be Full a passing the torch game. What movie is that from? Dick the Butts, boys.
It's got to be Full Metal Jacket or something.
Star Power off the charts here.
We'll look back.
A lot of Hall of Famers here.
This is insane.
This was a fucking crazy game.
Great gameplay.
Legends.
The stakes are high.
Back and forth.
Over time.
Changed a rule because of it.
That Kyle Shanahan didn't bring over with his team,
and I'm a Kyle Shanahan fan.
It also meant a lot.
Like, talk about bias.
It meant a lot personally for all of us too.
100%.
I mean, every play in that third down draft,
like, it was hanging on like third downs.
High scoring, but great defensive plays.
Incredible. Romo was like on fire in the booth. That was peak Romo. Yeah, great defensive plays. Incredible.
Romo was like on fire in the booth.
That was peak Romo.
Yeah, peak Romo.
Peak Romo.
Peak Romo.
In arrowhead, breath coming out.
Laser pointer in Tom's eyes.
Great execution.
Laser pointer in the eye.
That's great.
And I think let's, you know, because it was only, you know, six years ago.
But I think that as time goes on and Patrick Mahomes adds to his resume,
let's say he gets a few more, whatever.
He's starting to get in the conversation of greatest quarterback of all
times, not just in performance, but also in, you know, resume now that,
because it's Brady versus Mahomes that you don't have Tom playing Joe
Montana, right? You don't have Peyton manning playing joe montana right so
you look back and you have tom right now the unquestioned goat maybe we don't know in 10-15
years where patrick here's patrick mahomes career goes that maybe this is kind of like a
great against great amen and for pat in his first year as a starter to make it to the afc championship
game and push the goat to the brink like that, that's a testament.
And got to tip my hat to Rob Riggle, a.k.a. Ron Ribble,
coming in here as a Chiefs diehard and doing a Chiefs heartbreaking loss.
We respect that.
I mean, he's a Marine.
Yep, he's a Marine.
He's a Marine.
That's a man of integrity.
I know we started off
contentious today
but now I
I stand by our
our top 50
hey if it passes
I stand by this list
I still got some
whatever's but yeah
I stand by it
nothing's perfect
cool so good list
good list everyone
that was
that was good
stand by that
that was good
I like it
and to wrap up this
rescoring is
Stravaganza,
we're going to be giving out some awards now.
The old gameys.
The inaugural gamey awards.
Highly coveted.
We got the gameys.
Participant trophy award.
They're participation trophies.
Kyler, why don't you break down what our gamey awards are going to be?
They're just some fun bullshit.
Just fun bullshit.
There's no more substance than that about the 50 games we've done before.
Do you want to start with, if anyone can guess,
what the Mark Cuban Award for Worst Guest Score is?
The nominees are Big Cat for giving any score for the TB12 championship.
Particularly the star power was quite high.
Reggie Bush for stakes of a regular season game against Fresno State.
A little high.
Pat Hill.
Played him tough.
Pat Hill.
And Mark Cuban.
Of course, Mark Cuban could be nominated for the Mark Cuban Award
for worst guest score.
And perhaps the impetus for this entire episode
Hey, by the way, we got to take off. He is he not an owner anymore. He's a part owner. Okay?
Yeah, not controlling stake. I don't think and who does the winner go to?
Mark Cuban
Your app or both the first gaming award for Mark Cuban. Let's go. You want to do the next one?
And our next one, also named after an illustrious guest,
the Ernie Adams Award for Most Knowledgeable Celebrity Fan.
This was tough.
I mean, everybody could have been nominated, but the nominees are
Gary Goldman from the Squish the Fish game,
Heidi Gardner from Super Bowl 54,
and Eric Stonestreet from Montana vs. Elway. Squish the Fish Game. Heidi Gardner from Super Bowl 54.
And Eric Stonestreet from Montana versus Elway.
Wait, no Ernie Adams?
It can't be?
He's not a celebrity fan.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. More in the coaching category.
Oh, yeah.
I get it.
Drum roll, please.
And the winner is Eric Stonestreet.
A man that knows ball.
A man that loves offensive line play.
A man that has been a season ticket holder since I don't know when,
and is now a suite owner.
Suite owner.
Suite holder.
I mean, I want to go see the suite.
I want to see the suite.
I want to see the suite.
Eric, in exchange for this award, please invite us to a game.
We can be bought.
We can be bought.
We can definitely be bought.
Great nickname giver. Great nickname giver.
Great nickname giver.
Also, wildly connected.
Wildly connected.
I mean, if he wanted to suit up at guard for a game,
I bet Andy might let him.
He runs that play.
I actually think you said that he could maybe get on the headset
or call some plays in the preseason.
He could.
Two degree.
He could.
Two degree.
Yeah.
Not unless Goodell takes away that third preseason game.
Is he trying to do that?
At Thursday's talk, he said, get rid of the third, make it a regular season, two preseason,
18 regular.
That's great.
Super Bowl on Memorial, President's Day weekend.
We just had 15 quarterbacks gone last year from football.
Less regular.
Less preseason.
All right.
Let's go.
Speaking of great injuries, CT award for Julian's worst pronunciations.
You want me to read the nominees?
Why don't you hit them?
Jules, you got it?
You got it.
The nominees are Rod Ribble.
Rod Ribble.
Major Applewood.
That's a multi-episode one.
That's a multi-episode one.
That's a multi-year one.
That one had some legs.
And also Major Applewhite. And also a major apple white.
Just white, white, white.
There's an apple with pizza where I grew up that I liked.
Not to be confused with the smoked bacon as well.
Or apple bees.
Or apple bees.
And our third nominee, Bart, Brett, and Bort.
I said Bort.
I believe there was a Bort in there.
You never said Bort.
Oh, no? That's a Simpsons joke for all you Simpsons heads out there.
Sorry.
And the winner goes.
And by the way, there is numerous honorable mentions for this one.
For sure.
This list could have been a category with hundreds.
And the winner is Rod Ribble.
Rod Ribble was pretty bad.
Right on.
Awesome.
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Moving on.
Shall I take the next one?
I'll do this one.
All right, you got it, Kai guy.
The Leon Lett Awareness Award for not comprehending the premise of the show.
The nominees are Ty Law.
Granted, alcohol was involved there.
Shady McCoy and Burt Kreischer.
And the winner goes to...
Drum roll.
Shady McCoy.
Shady McCoy.
Nice. He came in and made it his show. We like it. Yeah.D. McCoy. J.D. McCoy. Nice.
He came in and made it his show.
We like it.
Yeah.
And Bill sucks.
Yep.
He still thinks so.
He still thinks it.
We're walking by each other right up in that hallway at Fox when he's in there doing Colin
Coward.
He's about to get ready for speak.
We'll literally argue the 15, 20 paces up and down these stairs
the whole time until he goes to his show until I go to my show.
Does he walk slow in the hall?
Does he have the running back walk?
Not a crazy slow running back walk because he's out, I think.
It's different.
And we also had some time limits we had to get to.
Live TV, you can't be late.
A little pep in that step, baby be late little pep in that step baby pep in that step and are we doing this last one yeah that's okay the sam morel memorial award for best future guest sam we love you your legacy on this show
will always live on always and especially live on through this physical manifestation that is a gamey award.
And the nominees are Tom Brady.
Tom Brady.
Maybe a future guest.
Who knows?
Who knows?
We're manifesting.
We're manifesting this week.
We'll manifest this.
Bill Belichick.
Coach B?
Coach B.
Famously.
Famous.
Went on Pat McAfee's show.
Social butterfly now.
Man.
He's going to be at the Roaster Herd.
Boy.
Maybe.
Did you watch him on the draft or no?
A little bit here and there.
Yeah.
He smiled.
Yeah.
I saw it.
I didn't watch it at a protest.
I watched the Drake May pick.
I just wanted to hear what he had to say, and then I changed.
I mean, he gave a talent evaluation.
That's what talent evaluators will say.
People are all busting his balls.
Oh!
That was bullshit.
All right.
He gave pros and cons to everyone.
To everyone.
But you didn't just pick the story.
It's how the media is.
But not at Games With Names.
We celebrate players in games.
That's right.
We celebrate coaches that won't come to our shows.
And the final nominee in this category is the man himself, Sam Morrell.
Sam Morrell.
Drumroll, please.
The winner.
For our final gamey of the night,
Sam Morrell.
Sam Morrell.
Sammy.
We got to get him on.
Just like Eli Manning,
Sam beat out two great patriots
when it mattered most.
Sam, we love you, brother.
We love you, Sam. We love you, Sam.
I would like to have him come on and we learn
more about him as a person and not
just dick jokes.
Don't get me wrong. I love a good dick joke.
Some dick jokes. And that's our
Postgres segment. Best dick jokes of all time.
There it is. Great segue, guy.
Yeah, right. There ain't no
post dicks pics.
National G graphic bird watching
Jackie.
Jackie got all excited.
Oh my god, I was frothing at the phone.
Pause.
Oh my god. Champing at the bit.
Cut that. Cut that.
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