Games with Names - Montana vs. Elway with Eric Stonestreet | Chiefs vs. Broncos

Episode Date: April 16, 2024

Eric Stonestreet is in studio from The Wynn Las Vegas! We're talking about an epic quarterback duel from Week 7 of the 1994 season when Joe Montana's Chiefs took on John Elway's Broncos in all-time Mo...nday Night Football showdown. Eric joins us in studio (3:10). We get into the Chiefs and Broncos rosters and the game (28:52). We score it (44:52). We got back to October of 1994 (53:14). We hit the hotline (1:07:13).   Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:35 Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. We finally have our own guy. Yeah. No DeBerg, no Bono, no Trent Green. I mean, I can go down the list of quarterbacks that weren't ours.
Starting point is 00:02:49 And now we have ours. You guys, yeah. You guys run the lease program and it was good to finally buy one. Right. That's exactly right. We got a good, and we got a good one. Turns out. Today, we have a very special guest.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Stella! He's an actor. He's a writer. Lifelong Chiefs fan. Eric Stonestreet. Sports guy chess punk. chest bump sports guy chest bump well let's go back to 94 montana versus elway great game first of all yeah love the era love joe montana love that team and it was classic chiefs game we i feel like every celebrity that we have on is a goddamn Chiefs fan. Is everyone in that area just diehard Chiefs?
Starting point is 00:03:30 We have as much pride as Bostonians. A little nicer people, though. I agree. Yes. You said it first. I'm a Bostonian, bro. We're cold. I'm learning so much about what it was to be a Patriots fan because they're just showing up every day doing their best,
Starting point is 00:03:42 and they happen to be winning games just like you guys did. And I couldn't stand you guys for all the right reasons because i was jealous you remind me of like how everybody talks about travis kelsey's like how the f**k is he always open met belichick at the correspondence dinner one time how was that yeah good good good to meet you big fan of the the show. I've never met Tom. You want to hear a great story? I want to hear a great story. Games with Names is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome to Games with Names, presented by Wynn.
Starting point is 00:04:19 And on today's episode, we are recording from the Wynn, Las Vegas. Yeah. Our interview. And we have a very special guest. I was going to say desk. There is a desk in that studio. There is a desk. There is a have a very special guest. I was going to say desk. There is a desk in that studio. There is a desk. There is a desk. Very special guest.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Eric Stone Street. And we go over the 1994 Chiefs versus Bronco, Montana versus Elway. The last time they went against each other. Back when Monday Night Football was Monday Night Football. Monday Night Football was Monday Night Football. Monday Night Football was Monday Night. Ba-na-oh-na-oh. There we go. He's an actor. He's a writer. He's a host. He kills it in Modern Family. We go over all that Hollywood stuff.
Starting point is 00:05:11 But you know what? He was a real big gamer. I was so impressed with how much he knows football and the history of the game. He's like a historian, especially for the Chiefs. But he knew a lot of everything. He knows ball. He's like a historian. Especially for the Chiefs. Oh my God. But he knew a lot of everything. He knows ball.
Starting point is 00:05:29 Lifelong Chiefs fan. Kansas State University. Wildcat. Wildcat. Real deal guy. We get into his awesome meeting with Tommy. Don't spoil it. He's got a great nickname for really. He's got a great nickname.
Starting point is 00:05:44 And I mean, he kept referencing his box at Arrowhead. We get into that, why it's so cool. Pretty special. He's got some really good memorabilia in there. Oh, my God. Some really good memorabilia. And then we wrap the show by hitting the old hotline bling. And just a little editor's note,
Starting point is 00:06:04 we had a little technical difficulties in the studio, so if you're missing some camera angles, apologies. The interview's all there. It should be fine, but there's a little bit of technical stuff on that, so just bear with us. Come to the interview. So if you guys got my ugly side, I don't want to hear anything about it. All right.
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Starting point is 00:06:50 marty schottenheimer's chiefs are winless in mile high and down 28 to 24 late in the fourth quarter but with eight seconds left joe montana drops back he looks to his right, and he lets it rip. This is Montana vs. Elway. Welcome to Games with Names presented by Wynn. Today we are looking at the Montana vs. Elway week 7, 1994. Chiefs vs. Broncos with Eric Stone Street. Just a compound word, Julian. Stone Street.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Just put them together and you get one big word. You know what, Eric? I got hit in the head a lot for a living. Yeah. But, dude, you were so good at it. You were so good at getting hit in the head. You delivered a lot of hits with your body to others' heads. I was a physical player here and there, but it does mess with your memory.
Starting point is 00:07:59 Does it? It really does. Yeah. So I got, you know, I apologize on that. No apology. How are you doing? I'm doing great, man. You enjoying this, you know, I apologize on that. No apology. How are you doing? I'm doing great, man. You enjoying this week?
Starting point is 00:08:08 We're here at Super Bowl. Yeah. I mean, what do you got, three? I got three. Yeah. So I've been to, this will be the third I've been to. Yeah. I didn't go to the one against Tom in Tampa and we lost.
Starting point is 00:08:20 Yeah. So. It was COVID. It was COVID. Yeah. It's a long way to go. And, but yeah yeah this is my third i'm excited man i can't believe as a lifelong fan you know i'm watching my team your team back in
Starting point is 00:08:31 the day for for two years for two years for two years because of joe montana because of joe montana yeah great guy uh you know that we're here i mean i waited 49 years as a person to get to a Super Bowl, and now in the last five years, we've been to four. Yeah. It's been unbelievable. Now, I was super excited when we found out you were picking a 1994 game. Yeah. A lot of people always—a lot of recency bias on what games to pick. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:03 How come you picked this specific game? Well, I went back and forth between the first Super Bowl because it was such an emotional time for me. I mean, I literally cried on the sidelines after we won, and it was very emotional. But the 94 game I picked because it was a great game, first of all. Yeah. And I have such a vivid memory of the Willie Davis touchdown in the end zone moment at the Pike
Starting point is 00:09:26 house fraternity at Kansas state university, like all of us hanging out in the office of the Pike house and watching that on the edge of our seats. And when that happened, um, I just, it's, it's, it's a memory, you know, like, uh, just core right, right in the head and you know love love the era love joe montana love that team um and it was classic classic chiefs game yeah i mean this is this is a classic matchup joe i mean 1994 joe is he does he still have it in his in the bank does he still got it the niners threw him threw him away for Steve Young. And I used to love watching these old Chief games and just seeing that little Montana magic that he'd always have.
Starting point is 00:10:12 Yeah. Like when he went back and he played the Niners and beat them. What was it? Was that Monday Night Football? When he went back and played? I don't know if it was his first year or second year there, but I just remember he had a game-winning drive. I mean, I think if he would have had one more year, first year or second year there but i just remember he had a game-winning drive i mean i think i think
Starting point is 00:10:25 if he would have had one more year i think we i mean marty schottenheimer i think is a hall of fame coach and i think he should be in the hall of fame someday but i think if joe would have had one more year in the tank i think he would have gotten us there then yeah instead of waiting until 19 or 20 whenever it was just was but yeah um know, when he came to town, his wife was a broadcaster on the local news and our season tickets were right in the second row of the corner of the end zone. And Jennifer Montana used to do her hits for the news station right in my corner. And it looked like she was looking at me all the time, but she was just looking at the camera. But I was like, man, when Joe Montana come to town, his wife couldn't take her eyes
Starting point is 00:11:04 off of me. I was like, all right, baby, here we go. I got to tell him and just looking at the camera but i was like man when joe montana come to town his wife couldn't take her eyes off of me i was like all right baby here we go i got to tell him and her that uh at the afc championship when you guys beat us in arrowhead he was at the game i was sitting with uh commissioner goodell and joe was in the suite and uh name drop game drop yeah i just oh hold on let me let me commit yeah anyway that's that's why I get to go to the super bowl because he invited me. I've told the story a lot, but it's a, it's a, it's a good one. And you should know about it because of, of how serious of a fan I am. He invited me to the super bowl in like 15. And I said, commissioner, I'm not going to a super bowl until my chiefs are in it. And he said,
Starting point is 00:11:40 all right, if you want to wait that long cut to, uh, I didn't go. Then we have the ASC championship against you guys at Arrowhead. The phantom roughing the passer call on Chris Jones and the D Ford, the D Ford offsides kept us from, I know there's rules. I know. I mean, we can play that both ways with what the chiefs have been doing all year. A hundred percent can. You got to play outplay the officials.
Starting point is 00:12:03 I'm not complaining. I'm not, I'm not one of those people. I like that phrase. I hadn't heard that before. Yeah. You got to outplay the officials i'm not complaining i'm not i'm not one of those people i like that phrase i hadn't heard that before yeah you gotta outplay the officials bro you got to you know uh but that i you know i thought we were going that year i really did you remember that game it was crazy man it was nuts and he offered me a rain check and i said well i'll only bother you if the chiefs are in the super bowl and now we're in the super bowl all the time so i'm wearing out out my welcome with Commissioner Goodell for sure. Now, where did this fandom, how did this start? And, like, we just had, I feel like every celebrity that we have on
Starting point is 00:12:34 is a goddamn fucking Chiefs fan. This is our third in the Chiefs mafia, man. Third. We got Rob. We did Rob Regal. Regal. Heidi. Me.
Starting point is 00:12:42 And then we got Eric now. And then you got to get Taylor. I mean, she's in now. She's. Heidi. Heidi. Me. And then we got Eric now. And then you got to get Taylor. I mean, she's in now. She's in now. She's in. She's in. Are they getting married? Why wouldn't you?
Starting point is 00:12:53 Why wouldn't you? Travis is great. She's great. Amen. That's the goal. Let's do it. Free kids. Yeah, oh my gosh.
Starting point is 00:12:57 Talented kids. Yeah, talented kids. Big blonde tight ends. Wait, that sounded like neo-Nazi or something. It's kind of like grown. It's real Aryan. Pretty much grown. Long tight end. Wait, that sounded like neo-Nazi or something. Cut that out. It's kind of like Gronk. It's real Aryan. Pretty much Gronk. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Long tight end. Question for you. There's got to be a couple like Johnny Come Lately's or Homer or our phone posers in that like chief celebrity fan group. Like who's the one that knows ball the least? Oh, knows ball the least? Yeah. I'm not going to say who knows ball the least.
Starting point is 00:13:23 That reveals itself in interviews, but I'm'm not gonna say who that is or who if there is somebody that knows ball the least i don't know hey no jack can we get all the interviews for started very simply at a at a mall in kansas city outside of a jewelry store, J.T. Smith, wide receiver, and Joe Delaney, the late Joe Delaney, were signing autographs. And I nervously went up like so many kids have done to you and said, Mr. Delaney, can I have your autograph? And I got it. And I still have that card in my man cave. And that began my fandom. I mean, I loved the sport of football. As soon as I knew what football was and could participate in it somehow, I became a fan of the Kansas City Chiefs. And what's so weird, and I know you experience is, I'm not just a fan of the Chiefs. I'm a fan of whoever puts that
Starting point is 00:14:13 uniform on, right? Like you have a fan in me somehow. If you ever would have made it, I mean, like I would have forgiven all the Patriot years and you're, you're, you're chief now, man. And I'm, I'm all about you. So that's what happened with Joe Montana. And that was our, that was our franchise for so long, which is what makes Patrick Mahomes such a blessing is we finally have our own guy. Yeah. No DeBerg, no Bono, no Rich Gannon, no Trent green. I mean, I can go down the list of quarterbacks that weren't ours. And now we have ours.
Starting point is 00:14:45 You guys, yeah, you guys run the lease program and it was good to finally buy one. Right. That's exactly right. We got a good, and we got a good one. Turns out pretty good.
Starting point is 00:14:53 I always tell every chief fan, my favorite win was that AFC championship. And the only reason it's out of respect. Well, it's out of respect because I remember, you know, I was telling this the same story to robin heidi monday night football 2014 pumped up going to play chiefs they kicked our
Starting point is 00:15:13 fucking teeth in oh man you remember that yeah i remember it you know and and that that is legitimately one of the loudest outdoor stadiums electric environment now like everyone it's is it like a college like what do you guys you guys have the royals and the chiefs like is is everyone in that area just die hard chief yeah i mean you come to kansas city i mean just it's we have as much pride as as bostonians and philadelphians and you know it's the same thing it's just nicer people though you know what let me tell you my i agree yes you said it first i'm only agreeing bostonian yeah we're cold when we just played the eagles this year at arrowhead i found two guys on their way to our suite and they're standing over there and their eagle stuff and i walk up to them and i go hey has anybody told you to go fuck yourself yet and the guy's like no do you want to be the first and i'm like no i want to
Starting point is 00:16:03 say welcome to kansas city and treat you unlike your fans treated me at the super bowl last year so welcome to kansas city i hope you have a great time a good fan and i hope you leave this game uninjured and and as a loser yeah i love it you should have seen him turn away you want to go tell me to fuck myself welcome oh my god are you starting to feel the heat now that like the chiefs have become like the team in the NFL? Yeah, I love the Villanera thing. I'm wearing, you know, I usually dress in all Chief shit for the game tomorrow.
Starting point is 00:16:31 I like that you cussed, and now I'm just fucking going for it. It's like, all right, I didn't know for sure. Yeah, shit balls. But, yeah, I'm wearing, like, I've never worn black to, like, a Chief event. So I got a black jacket with the chief's emblem and i'm like i'm johnny cash now i'm in our we're we're in our villain era it's hilarious that's when you know your your organization's becoming a premier organization is when you
Starting point is 00:16:56 start getting fashiony you don't have to wear the all red you start getting this new cool look thing all black well make no mistake mine's like tommy bahama it's still like adult contemporary old guy stuff it's not it's not these fucking pants over here i'll tell you that yeah that's a tommy v that's all right we get you know you got to keep that gen z look around you guys keep me young uh but you know i'm and here's the other thing i'm learning i'm learning so much about what it was to be a patriots fan during your run because we're just winning. I mean, they're just showing up every day doing their best, and they happen to be winning games just like you guys did. And, you know, I couldn't stand you guys for all the right reasons
Starting point is 00:17:37 because I was jealous. I mean, I respected you and admired you and respected the fan base and everything. I've never met Tom. You want to hear a great story? I want to hear a great story. Tom is right like 50 feet from us right now. Shut up. Okay. So Super Bowl. All right. I never assume anyone knows who I am or what I do for a living. I meet people and introduce myself and they're like, I know who you are. I'm like, well, I don't know for sure you know who I am. So my name's Eric. So at the Super Bowl, Brett Veach, general manager of the Kansas City Chiefs.
Starting point is 00:18:07 We're in the Super Bowl, okay, in Miami. He texts me. He's like, bro, where are you? I was headed to the team hotel. He goes, bro, where are you? And I'm like, I'm like 20 minutes out. What's up? He's like, Tom Brady's here.
Starting point is 00:18:17 Like a kid, he's texting me. Tom Brady's at the pool. And I'm like, Tom Brady, it's a lookalike. He's not at the pool. Why would he be at the hotel the Chiefs are at in a Super bowl that he's not in. He goes, they've got an amazing water park here. He said, he's here with his kids. You got to get here. We got to go meet him. I'm like, I don't want to meet Tom Brady right now. Now's not the time for me to meet Tom Brady. I like, I want to meet Tom Brady. Is he standing right up? So like, he's like, no, I need, I need
Starting point is 00:18:43 you. I'm like, you're the general manager of the kansas city chiefs you go meet he doesn't he's like he doesn't give a shit about who i am so i get to the hotel he rushes me over and tom sure enough is out on the by the water slide sitting back in a recliner chair like this and around security around him exactly how i want to see tom brady for the first time sunglasses Sunglasses? Sunglasses. Shirt off? No shirt, no shirt. How was he looking? Great. Fucking Tom Brady.
Starting point is 00:19:07 That's good. And so here we are. Brett's like, all right, all right. You go first. You go first. I'm like, bro, this is not, I'm not going up to Tom Brady right now. He's like, no, no.
Starting point is 00:19:18 So Veach, the general manager, arguably the greatest general manager right now in the NFL, he's like, you go. So he's like, Tom, Tom, Eric Stow Street, Modern Family. And I'm like, you have got to be kidding me. This is so humiliating. There's nothing worse than trying to get someone's attention with what you do for a living. And so surrounded by security, they kind of let us get close. And Brett's like, I'm general manager of Kansas City Chiefs, Eric Stow Street, Modern Family., they kind of let us get close. And Brett's like a general manager at Kansas City Chiefs, Eric Stone Street, Modern Family.
Starting point is 00:19:47 So we kind of approached Tom. Literally, Tom's on his recliner. It's the best fucking thing ever. I love it. And I respected him so much more. He's reclined like this. He literally raises his shoulders two degrees off the back. And he goes, hey, nice to meet you. And he just puts his shoulders back.
Starting point is 00:20:02 And that was our meeting with Tom Brady. I'm like, Veach, I will never in my life forgive you for embarrassing me like that. So now we call Tom Brady Two Degrees Brady because he literally – Two Degrees Brady. Two Degrees Brady because he was like, nice to meet you, and then just backed down on his recliner. So I'm like, how dare you embarrass me like that to the one the greatest anyway so if you ever see tom tell him i'm a fan two degree brady now i mean he he was he was so
Starting point is 00:20:33 unbothered he could lift his shoulders two degrees off hey a gentleman always raises himself up two degrees to meet someone bro i'm not gonna assume bro, I'm not going to assume he watches. Like, I don't need people that are the greatest at what they do to know what I do. Like, when I would go to the greatest at what they do. Okay. Yeah. No argument. No argument. You said it.
Starting point is 00:20:58 At this time. We're coming. Patrick's coming. Anyway, when I go to the White House Correspondents' Dinner and these generals would come up to me with all these shit, these things on their chest, and then be like, I have no idea who you are. And I'm like, I don't want you to know who I am.
Starting point is 00:21:13 I want you to make sure we're safe. I don't want you watching TV. Bill Snyder, who was just up on the – Bill Snyder, coach at K-State. Legend. Legend. When he first met me, he didn't know what I do. I'm like, Coach, I don't want you knowing what I do i want you winning k-state football games i don't care
Starting point is 00:21:27 yeah anyway met belichick at the quarterfinals dinner one time how was that he loved he's a big big fan he's a funny guy well let's hear what did he say well he was with his then wife linda linda yeah are they girl girl yeah no one knows we're not tabloid people here I don't want to get into that Dog mom He just We walked up And she wanted to meet me And she said
Starting point is 00:21:50 This is Bill And I'm like I'm a There's a picture of he and I On my Instagram From way back when My glasses fogged up I said I can't believe
Starting point is 00:21:57 My glasses are fogging up With you coach But nice to meet you He was great Yeah good Good to meet you Big fan of the show That's what he said
Starting point is 00:22:04 That's it Yeah He's you know In a controlled environment He was great. Yeah, good to meet you. Big fan of the show. That's what he says. That's it? Yeah. He's, you know, in a controlled environment, like an environment where he's comfortable, let his hair down a little bit. Yeah, well, the clip of him going as a pirate to your costume party with... With Randy Moss.
Starting point is 00:22:19 With Randy Moss. It's legendary. I mean, that's all you kind of need to know about him. Oh, my God. That's Linda. That was Linda at the time. She made him do that kind of need to know about him. Oh, my God. That's Linda. That was Linda at the time. She made him do that kind of stuff. He didn't want to do it.
Starting point is 00:22:29 That Linda over there, he wanted to break down Phil. He was out there rolling, though. Now, were you on the roster when Matt Light was there? Oh, yeah. Yeah. So I came to a Patriots game, a Chiefs-Patriots game, but as Matt Light's guest. And then I went to a bar with all you dudes afterwards,
Starting point is 00:22:44 wherever you went, over into like a mall or something patriot place yeah yeah yeah i was here oh it was one of andy reed's first years in kansas city so we're talking like 14 15 i was there yeah i don't know if i was at that bar because gronk was there i remember gronk and matt and and those dudes. I didn't see two degrees. He wasn't there. Oh, my God. He's going to beat my ass. No, he's not. The thing is, you're going to meet Tom Brady,
Starting point is 00:23:11 and if, you know, once again, he's in an environment where he's comfortable, he's legitimately, like, awkwardly nice. Yeah. Like, he's that kind of guy where you're like, is this real? Yeah, 100% know what you mean. Larry King was that for me.
Starting point is 00:23:25 Yeah. Larry King, arguably one of the most recognizable people ever. When I met Larry King, I'm like, are you fucking with me right now? Like, are you just a nice person? I totally get it. Yeah. No. All right, here we go.
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Starting point is 00:26:28 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So why don't you take us back to 94. Yeah. This was my first year I ever played football for the Redwood City 49ers, by the way. Irwin City 49ers? Redwood way. Irwin City 49ers? Redwood City. Redwood City.
Starting point is 00:26:47 I'm 30 miles south of San Francisco. Yeah, man. By the big sequoia trees? Exactly. How great are those trees? I am such a tree lover because of those trees. I mean, four hours and 25 minutes from my house in Toluca Lake is when you go, holy shit. Like that's how long of a drive it is.
Starting point is 00:27:07 And I've taken so many people up there. It's a great experience. Anyway, 94. Hold on. Let's, let's give some Sequoia trees some love. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:15 I was just up there a couple of weeks ago or maybe a month or two ago. And like, it's one of those things you go on a hike and you see one and you're like, wow. Yeah. And then you go like 10 feet further. You see another one. They're older than the Andes Mountains.
Starting point is 00:27:26 Crazy. Yeah. The trees were there before the fucking mountains. They are so cool. Like, I don't necessarily, I grew up in Redwood City, which is 30 miles south. You probably go to Muir Woods or something.
Starting point is 00:27:38 King's National Forest. And I'll take 84 all the way to the beach. And you just have these windy roads and these damn, you have like these cliffs with these trees that are 80 feet tall, like right next to the damn road. It's just so cool. It's cold because of how tall they are. It keeps all the moisture inside.
Starting point is 00:27:57 It's awesome. Fireproof. Those trees are fireproof, basically. I loved them so much, I got a little sapling and planted it in front of my, in my front yard in Toluca Lake, and it's doing great. I got one for my niece. I wanted to put a couple in, I live them so much. I got a little sapling and planted it in front of my, in my front yard in Toluca Lake and it's doing great. I got one for my niece. I wanted to put a couple in,
Starting point is 00:28:08 I live in Brentwood. I wanted to put a couple there, but I don't know if it'll. They'll do fine. Will they? Yeah. Water the shit out of them. When you bury them,
Starting point is 00:28:14 put PVC, have your landscaper put PVC pipe down to the roots and just water the shit out of them at first and get them going. And then they'll take, they'll take off. Yeah. Because like you said, they take the air from the,
Starting point is 00:28:23 they take the moisture from the air, not necessarily the roots. That's why they'll do okay. Yeah. Hey, you're listening to the landscape talk with Julian Edelman. I love street talk. But like if you came to his house to do the show, you would spend 30 minutes on the landscape. I love sycamores.
Starting point is 00:28:38 I have, I don't have a bonsai, but I have beautiful Japanese maples in like a courtyard. Oh, beautiful. I just put in this Korean grass under the Japanese maple, which is, it's still not matured, but in like this next spring, it's going to be fucking beautiful. You know, in that area, the native tree is sycamores.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Yeah, love sycamores. So we have, there's a sycamore built in between my house, pretty much. Is it bent over? Yes, one's bent. It's like a two thing. And then like we're right here, isn't it? I i just i love trees because of growing up around city you know my co-star ed o'neill is over on old road i don't know where you are from old road in brentwood but he lives on
Starting point is 00:29:14 old road yeah equestrian areas albun ball player too huh yeah he played ball player you had a cup of coffee with the steelers yeah i didn't have any cup of coffees with anybody other than piper high school i'm dealing with plantar fasciitis right now. Have you ever had that? I have. It's terrible. I've had such bad feet problems. I've broken my fifth metatarsal twice on both feet.
Starting point is 00:29:33 One of your guys got a scooter out there. I rolled in. I'm like, bro, I'm stealing this for tomorrow. Your ankle's fine. Yeah. I've lived on those. The feet. You got to get good orthotics.
Starting point is 00:29:42 I got them in. I got them in. Yeah. After this, I'll send you a guy they're like they're really expensive but they're life changing like hey we can't talk about this online i got a guy i got a guy for orthotics i got a guy no it's it's actually brady's guy two degrees two degrees uh 94 back to 94 what was life like for you at this time 94 i was a uh freshman in college well no wait i graduated 90 so i'm a freshman sophomore in college i did one year in junior college i thought i wanted to be a discus and shot putter until i found out how heavy those shit those
Starting point is 00:30:17 things were i was like holy shit these are a lot heavier than my high school ones so i went one year to junior college i'm like yeah i'm, I'm not going to make the Olympics. I'm moving on. You know who's a crazy shock putter? Vince Woolfolk. Oh, dude. And Joe Tooney probably is too. No, but Vince like competes.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Still? I don't know. Not still, but sometimes we'd be in OTAs and shit. He'd just be out there throwing a fucking shock put. I'd be like, what the hell? He's going forever. I love Vince Woolfolk. I got to introduce myself to him in the elevator at Arrowhead one time
Starting point is 00:30:46 and told him what a big fan of his I was. He's a lovable guy. I love that. Did he have overalls with no shirt? No, but he was wearing a lot of gold and chains, and I just was like, this is exactly how I wanted Vince Wilfork. Yeah. This is how I wanted to meet you.
Starting point is 00:30:59 He knows how to barbecue the shit out of some people. Of course he does. Of course he does. He's a giant. So I'm in college, 94, Joe Montana, John Elway. The other reason I picked this game is because, so we have a suite at Arrowhead. And when I got the suite,
Starting point is 00:31:15 they asked me what pictures I wanted in our suite. And I said, I want offensive line themed pictures. And they said, well, do you have any favorite memories? And I'm like, well, we had a tackle named Joe Valerio who caught tackle eligible touchdowns from joe montana and he caught one right in front of me at arrowhead in my seats and so the motherfucker types it in he's like oh right here i'm like yes hold on i'm gonna be in this picture so sure enough on in this picture joe valerio's got his hands up in the air and there's a young me in the background wearing a green polo for some reason. Still have no idea why I wore a green polo to Chiefs game.
Starting point is 00:31:48 But there I am cheering, so that's up. Those pictures are up in my suite right above where that touchdown happened. Well, Joe Valerio scored a tackle-eligible touchdown in this game against John Elway on Monday Night Football. Also, John Ault was a tackle this game. Favorite player. John Ault was my favorite offensive lineman.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Have you seen him? I mean, what do you think? Bring up a picture. Joe's going to go. Oh, Joe's going to go. I wish we were bad enough to get Joe Alt. My dream is that we have John Alt and Joe Alt. Love Joe.
Starting point is 00:32:16 I love him. He's 10, 11, I would guess, is where he'll go. Maybe even earlier. I've heard like five or six. Well, leaves a wide receiver for us at 32. I'm so happy. We're doing like, we're doing like line love.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I love it. We're saying Whitworth. Yeah. Oh, big line guy. Love him. Love, love him.
Starting point is 00:32:33 You must love light, Matt light. Oh, love Matt. How fucking funny is he? He's hilarious. And I've heard some of the pranks that he did on, on coach,
Starting point is 00:32:42 on your coach. It was like mouse. Yeah. And then the shock one. Yes. The shock one. on your coach. With the mouse? Yeah. Or the shock one? Yes, the shock one. And then Coach sent him a letter or something. I remember some story about him sending him a letter and got Matt Light back.
Starting point is 00:32:52 And Matt was like, oh, shit, I'm in trouble. And then I was like, got you with that letter, didn't I? Yeah, love offensive line. Love Joe Tooney. You played with Joe, of course. I love Tooney. He's a fucking badass. I love that kid, man.
Starting point is 00:33:04 He's really brilliant, too smart smart guy he'd be in his locker reading the goddamn like romance fiction book or something yeah well just look at it this way torres well i don't know if torres back he hurt his back he's out but yeah he's out but my point is is he wanted to still play and you know what an injury that is and uh they just ruled him out i think today yeah i saw that great kid awesome guy love my offensive lineman uh nicky allegretti is going to go in And you know what an injury that is. And they just ruled him out, I think, today. Yeah, I saw that. Great kid. Awesome guy. Love my offensive lineman. Nicky Allegretti is going to go in for him.
Starting point is 00:33:29 Nicky two rings. I gave him that. Or Nicky two kids. I gave him that nickname after the last Super Bowl because he had twins on the Super Bowl. The day of the Super Bowl last time in Arizona. I'm like, you're fucking Nicky two kids now. Nicky two kids Allegretti. We got to get you just gotta have a we gotta get you
Starting point is 00:33:45 just a nickname thing yeah what do you want who needs nicknames we got old fucking we need help we need help naming games we're like at bottom barrel
Starting point is 00:33:53 like naming some of these games we have some trouble with that so let's get into the roster time oh roster yeah 94 John Alt I could
Starting point is 00:34:03 yeah JJ Burden Willie Davis one of our scouts on the Chiefs. He's a regional scout at the Chiefs. Marcus Allen. Joe Montana. Joe Montana. We're just past
Starting point is 00:34:15 the Christian Akoya days. Christian Akoya just retired in, I think, 92. Herm Edwards was a secondary coach. Joe Valerio. Will Shields, Hall of Famer. Mike McCarthy was on this staff? Oh, yeah. Was he really?
Starting point is 00:34:28 Quality control. Quality control guy. Holy shit, I didn't know that. Like I said, Alan Wright, our equipment manager, current equipment manager, was the equipment manager here. And I texted him the other night that I was going to be on the show talking about this game, and he said, quote, besides the two Super Bowls that he's been in,
Starting point is 00:34:45 this was his favorite game as the equipment manager. This game right here is his favorite game. This game is incredible for windbreakers. Oh, windbreakers. Unbelievable. He still has his. He said he can still wear it. I'm like, bro, you should have archived one of those from every year.
Starting point is 00:34:58 How many penalties? All the penalties in this game. How many do we have? I think the Chiefs had 26 or 27 penalties. What are we doing? We're losing the game. Yeah, exactly. Also, back-to-back fumbles
Starting point is 00:35:08 like in the fourth quarter like with like three or four minutes left. Yeah. Yeah, back-to-back. And how about Jerry Markwright, the referee, how he just walks around
Starting point is 00:35:17 and just shoves. And I couldn't, you know, the other thing I couldn't believe is players getting in the refs like right up on the refs when you watch that game back. I watched some clips the other night.
Starting point is 00:35:26 That's why they put all these rules. Like if you touch a ref, you can get thrown out. You know what I mean? It's because of this generation. And apparently if Chris Jones just like comes close to Tom Brady's helmet, that's a penalty. Well, it's kind of like that with Patrick Mahomes now, you know? Watching this game too, like you see like the refs had the old school
Starting point is 00:35:44 like white pants that were like... Now they got these slumpy, these type of sweatpants. I don't want a buff ref. And I don't want you to try to look cool. Back in these days, when I was a kid playing, you would put two thigh pads in to look like the pros. Just because they'd wear those big ass thigh pads. Neck rolls. Let's talk about neck rolls.
Starting point is 00:36:02 A lot of neck rolls in this game. Great neck roll game. A lot of neck rolls in this game. Great neck roll game. A lot of neck roll game. Inside the jersey or an outside the jersey neck roll guy? I like the outside the jersey. Irv Eatman was an offensive tackle for the Chiefs that wore it outside. What was the linebacker for Raiders? Howie Long.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Oh, yeah. Well, defensive end Howie Long. Oh, Bill Romanowski. Bill Romanowski outside neck roll. Remember when he spit in J.J. Stokes' face? Oh, dude. Romanowski. I mean, come on. Remember he's he spit in J.J. Stokes' face? Oh, dude, Romanowski. I mean, come on. Remember he's a guard in the Longest Yard remake?
Starting point is 00:36:29 Yes. I mean, you're talking Chiefs, Raiders, hate. Broncos, John Elway, you know. Shannon Sharp. Shannon Sharp. Wade Phillips, head coach. Wade Phillips. Jason Elam.
Starting point is 00:36:41 Jason Elam was kicking forever. Yeah, Jason Elam was. He was in this game. Big Ted Washington. And we had a former Bronco lineman, Cragen, I think it was, that had come to the Chiefs who was a legendary Bronco before.
Starting point is 00:36:55 Kind of like Neil Smith. Neil Smith went from the Chiefs to the Broncos after this. You guys hated the Broncos at this time? I don't think we hated them like the Raiders. I mean, we hadn't won in mile high in like 14 years up until this point or something like that. Crazy.
Starting point is 00:37:11 I had a bet with a guy that if either of our teams ever won, because he was a Broncos fan, and I had a bet all four years of college that if we each team sweep, we'd shave our head and never happened. Yeah. Split. Yeah, split. 24 total penalties in this game. Insane. 24 total or on the Chiefs? Total. Okay. 14 on the. Split. Yeah, split. So 24 total penalties in this game. Insane.
Starting point is 00:37:25 24 total? Yes. Or on the Chiefs? Total. Okay. 14 on the Chiefs. Okay, yeah. Felt like 24, though.
Starting point is 00:37:30 So with the Raiders and the Chiefs rivalry, any weirdness with Marcus Allen coming over? I think from him, I mean, I love Marcus Allen. He already said, if anyone puts on the Chiefs uniform, it doesn't matter where you are. Yeah. He loves you. I'm in. I'm in, bro. I mean, I'm in. He already said, if anyone puts on the Chiefs uniform, it doesn't matter where you are. Yeah. He loves you. I'm in.
Starting point is 00:37:45 I'm in, bro. I mean, I'm in. He's a true fan. And what better, I mean, what I always love about Marcus Allen is Marcus never went sideways, backwards. Anytime Marcus Allen was tackled, he always somehow fell forward, which is kind of how Jamal Charles was, too. I love Jamal Charles.
Starting point is 00:38:01 Jamal Charles is a beast. Beast. I used to, so I played, what year was that? In 2011. I had to play defense. I remember that. And my job for the game was I had to cover Charles. I was the money.
Starting point is 00:38:16 Do you think we'll do that Sunday? Do you think we'll do a similar thing of how we did Lamar with Christian? Like kind of like spy him a little bit? You can't put a spy on a running back, I guess. It's just tough because they have so many weapons. Kittle. Kittle. Deebo.
Starting point is 00:38:29 Deebo. IU. Deebo. Hi, Deebo. Deebo. What's up, Deebo? You should say that. You should call him that.
Starting point is 00:38:38 That has a way better ring to it. The fullback. I mean, use check. Use check. Yeah, what was your fullback's name? James Devlin. Yeah. And loved him.
Starting point is 00:38:48 No. What was the running back's name? Rex Burkhead. No. The guy in the game against the AFC championship that scored that one touchdown. Rex Burkhead. Is it Rex Burkhead? Tony Michel.
Starting point is 00:38:57 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Who just retired. He just retired. He was another fall forward guy to me. Always. Didn't it seem like that?
Starting point is 00:39:03 Yeah. How about Pacheco? I think he's a stud. Isaiah, baby. Runs hard. Runs angry. Coach Reed just said he reminds him of Roger Craig, and I think that's such a great.
Starting point is 00:39:12 High knees, baby. North and south runner. Always getting downhill. I mean, I think that's going to be the key for them. They have to establish that run. Well, the thing that won't happen Sundayay is kyle shanahan will not all of a sudden stop running the ball like which is what happened with the ravens and in the rushes yeah 4.8 a carry or something so 30 what is it the 29th ranked defense against the run you
Starting point is 00:39:36 have the best ranking offense on run with baltimore but how much of that though like as an offensive player like what what did spuolo do to even? I don't think it's what Spagnuolo did. I think it was a panic because they got behind. Yeah. So then you get off your game plan. A lot of times, you know, you can rattle an offensive coordinator if they think like, oh, it's going to get out of hand.
Starting point is 00:40:00 We got to start throwing the ball. You know, teams just stick in the game plan and still run the ball. I mean, you're not going to have to worry about that with Shea. Buddy of mine that played, he always said, and I always look for this to see if you agree with it, he always said if a team early does any kind of trick play, it's a sign that they don't think they can win and they need some kind of advantage, you know, somewhere.
Starting point is 00:40:21 Well, the Super Bowls, that's a lot of the case in the regular season. But the playoffs and Super Bowl, there's always a saying, nothing's left in the bag. If we got it in the playbook, you're going to throw it out there. And if you need it, like, there's nothing that's saved. Yeah. So that's kind of true in the regular season. What Super Bowl were you the MVP?
Starting point is 00:40:40 What number? 53. Against? The Rams. Oh, yeah. How many non-quarterbacks have been Super Bowl MVPs? It's more than you think, too. We just talked about that.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Because Cooper Cupp. Jerry Rice. Deion Branch. Deion Branch. Malcolm Smith. Dexter Jackson. A couple running backs. Any defense?
Starting point is 00:40:59 Charles Woodson ever? Malcolm Smith. Malcolm Smith. Yeah. Von Miller. Was it Dexter Jackson on the Bucs, that first Bucs one. Did James Harrison get it that year
Starting point is 00:41:07 with the Steelers? No. I think Santonio Holmes. They gave it to Santonio Holmes. Ray Lewis got it back in 01. Ray Lewis. Scary guy. Can't imagine.
Starting point is 00:41:16 Can't imagine. We worked together on Inside the NFL. And let me just tell you, those pre-production meetings, I felt like we were getting a locker room speech. Yeah. I wanted to run through getting a locker room speech every time. I wanted to run through a fucking wall any time he spoke.
Starting point is 00:41:28 And half the time, it was just a quote from goddamn Gladiator. I bust his balls. I go, Ray, will you stop using Gladiator quotes? That's it. Eric, as a football guy, I got to be a fly on the wall with watching Jules and Ray Lewis just talk shop. Just alone in the corner of a room in the green room. I got to say, it's the best football memory
Starting point is 00:41:47 I've ever had in my entire life. My dream, I've never, I've watched a lot of college games on the sideline, and I have not yet got to watch an NFL game on the sideline just to feel the speed of everything. But my dream, and I think probably NFL rules will never let me, but I would love to listen into a game like the coach. On the headsets?
Starting point is 00:42:03 Yes. That'll never be. That'll never happen. Unless you become, you know. Unless I become a coach? No, unless you become like really cool. I don't know, Andy Reid maybe? Well, I mean, I'm close to coach.
Starting point is 00:42:14 I just think it's like. Maybe a preseason game you could probably, they could give you a headset. Yeah. Sit up in the booth or something. I couldn't be down. It's like premium subscription on Amazon. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Could you imagine? Could you imagine? Could you imagine? So do you, do you have, I know this is like, I feel like you could either have an answer to this or be like, bro, but do you have a memory of the hardest you've ever been hit by someone?
Starting point is 00:42:39 Yeah. Brian Dawkins when he was with the Eagles. No. When he was with Denver. Oh, everybody's Denver for that stint? Mm-hmm. In 2009.
Starting point is 00:42:48 I saw a star for three weeks. I got hit so hard I saw a star for like three weeks. That's why when you said my name you went Eric Stone. Street. Fuck that star. Thank you, Brian Dawkins. Hey, you know what? You know what he called Rob Riggle?
Starting point is 00:43:02 He was Rob. Rob Riggle was Rod Ribble. Rod Ribble? The whole show, yeah. Ripple for her pleasure. Rod Ripple for her pleasure. I'm not a word guy. You're not a word guy.
Starting point is 00:43:15 You know, I asked Spagnolo. Not a word guy either. I asked Spagnolo at camp this year, if you could go take any guy off any roster you've ever coached and put on this Chiefs defense, Brian Dawkins was the name. Yeah. Wow. Cam Chancellor lit me up in the super bowl pretty hard once that one where they thought i was knocked out uh i've been yeah there's been i mean because you what how you played coming
Starting point is 00:43:35 across the middle man i mean but i you know what it's crazy and the early part of like the first five six years of my career career, you could get hit. And then, you know, I'd watch. I used to watch after a season. I'd watch every play. I wanted to just watch the game, every play I played. And I would sit there, like at the end of my career, and I'd be like, I would have been knocked out of 15, 16 of these catches
Starting point is 00:44:01 if the rules were different. You know what I mean? It used to be legitimately a no-fly zone. If you go across there, you're going to get knocked out. You're going to be out for two weeks. And that's what it was. But the game's changed. It's a space game now.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Some of those hits in this game, the 94 game, Neil Smith and Derek Thomas getting on John Elway after the whistle. I mean, no way it would happen. No, I think you would get arrested if you did some of these things in this era and you watched the 70s hits. And Joe Montana, not a big guy. No. No.
Starting point is 00:44:37 That's why he only played the amount of years he played. He broke his goddamn back to the Giants. Yeah. I mean, he was a thin guy. Remember how hard he was hitting Buffalo that year? I mean, he was, I'll never forget the image of him sitting on the, on the field,
Starting point is 00:44:50 them like kind of lifting him up and just looking at him. And it just looked like his eyes were gone. I was like, oh my God. All right, Joe. The other thing I, I know it's your podcast, but it's so awesome for me to like, get to ask you questions.
Starting point is 00:45:03 You remind me of like how everybody talks about travis kelsey's like how the fuck is he always open that's how i always thought of you as a as a hater of the patriots it's like why is julian element open again why why is he no one over there with him what is that because all from from our seat at arrowhead i'll just take plays and i'll just be like, I'm just going to watch Travis. I'm not going to watch anything else, and I'm just going to see how he gets open. How do you guys do that? I think that's predicated pretty much on the chemistry between the quarterback
Starting point is 00:45:37 and the receiver, and also Travis has seen everything. And just because a play is drawn up a certain way, you know, he has the football IQ to say, like, all right, well, there's no one going to be in this area. So if I kind of just redirect over here, I'm not going to fuck anyone else up. And I'm probably going to get the ball because Patrick's looking at me. You know what I mean? So there's a lot of feel, you know, and you see that in Travis Kelsey's game.
Starting point is 00:46:02 Like, he runs a lot of unorthodox-looking routes, and a lot of people used to say that about my routes. You look at the paper, and that's not what it's supposed to be. But he knows he needs to be in this area. It doesn't matter how you get there, but he has a quarterback clock in his head where he knows this is going to— 1,001, 1,002. And I just need to be there.
Starting point is 00:46:24 Right. So however you get there is the creator. And then it becomes about, talk about the hips. You guys both had those swaggy hips about just getting around. Elusive. Very elusive. He's slippery. They call me a hippie.
Starting point is 00:46:39 I got some elusive hip. Five minutes, toss. Oh. Cut that out. We got to run through this epic Monday cut that out. We got it. We got to run through this, this epic Monday night show. Yeah, it was everything.
Starting point is 00:46:49 It was built up to be Montana Elway combined for 650 passing yards, five TDs. It was a little slow starting out. Nothing, nothing after the first feeling each other out in mile high. Then we get on the board 14, 14 at the half Elway slinging one Montana slinging one. They trade TD passes in mile high. Then we get on the board 14, 14 at the half. Elway is slinging one Montana slinging one. They trade TD passes in the third.
Starting point is 00:47:08 Then it comes down to the fourth minute 25. It's the same old story. Elway does the drive. 10 men on the field. He runs it in himself. They take the lead with a minute 29 left. Now it's Joe, Joe magic time.
Starting point is 00:47:24 And it really, when you watch that drive, it really is, you know, people talk about Tom Brady with the 10-yard, 3-yard, 4-yard dump-off passes. I mean, he did just check down, check down, check down the whole field. And what was so interesting, I'm re-watching it the other day. You see guys in this situation today, it's from the shotgun, empty backfield, spread them out. In fact, thene's under center every snap with two tight ends they got a minute 20 29 left two timeouts and he's still marching
Starting point is 00:47:51 down the field under center i love it uh you look at the chiefs now with this year yep you know they've been a lot more under the center yeah because it you know you got you got to incorporate that run game helping the tackles out a little bit. Tackles, you know, it's a big thing. And there's something to be said, like, when people say, oh, it's a dink, dunk, this, that. To have the discipline as a quarterback to not take the foos goal. There's spots where it opened up and it closes quick. And to be able to not make a mistake in a high-pressure situation
Starting point is 00:48:24 and take what the defense gives you it seems easy for the regular person but it's so hard because you feel that pressure you feel the time you feel where you are in the game and and you know that that's why you like Patrick Mahomes this year he's been like that he hasn't turned the ball over in six goddamn playoff games and it hasn't been razzle dazzle but he's had the humility and he's had that kind of confidence to like know what his team is know that we have a really good defense right now we know you know defenses are playing us probably a little different we don't have what we had on in the past on the outside and and to just take what the defense gives you is that's a skill you know discipline yeah it's
Starting point is 00:49:12 just but there's gonna be that one time where you hit that check down you hit that option route option route there's gonna be that one time where you have to put that that 14 yard in cut in there you know and and that's what these guys do. And that's what you saw with Joe Montana, and that's what you saw a lot with Tom Brady, and that's what you're seeing right now with Patrick Mahomes. It's been impressive. Jack, what was this last drive?
Starting point is 00:49:38 This last drive. Can you walk us through it? Do you remember the last drive? Well, I remember our tight end, Keith Cash, was out. He was injured. So we had, I believeith cash was out he was injured so we had uh i believe his name was tracy green or something like that it was his rookie year from grambling state rambling state rambling state biggs he was a former offensive lineman six six five 275 big old tight end he had a crucial catch down at the end of the game to get us close to the goal line and then willie davis i mean the great willie davis again still a kansas city chief um gets that that touchdown and and where montana put it
Starting point is 00:50:11 very mahomes-esque i mean mahomes would say my passes are very joe montana-esque right where it needed to be right right leading him to the pylon it was low and outside low only where he could get it so a lot of what you're coached in the National Football League on that. The back line, everything's high. So no one can catch it. When you're on the goal line, everything has to be low. Because there's less space. How about that pass from Josh Allen against us that was so low
Starting point is 00:50:40 and down at the pylon in that game. And then Patrick Mahomes returns a favor against the Ravens with an equally great pass. Oh, my. Man, and great recall, Eric. Shout out to Tracy Green. He only had six career receptions in the NFL. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:53 And Joe's leaning on him and crunches to crunch times. Yeah. And I don't think he played one more year. He did. That was it. He did. One more year for the Steelers. Grambling State.
Starting point is 00:51:02 Yeah. Grambling State. And this one ends up 31-28 in the House of Horrors. Kansas City goes in there and gets the win. Boom. And boom. 14-year drought. Monday night football.
Starting point is 00:51:14 Yeah. 14-year drought. Marty gets his first one in there. Yeah. At a mile high. That's awesome. I love Marty Schottenheimer. Marty Ball, baby.
Starting point is 00:51:22 Marty. What a legend. All right. here we go. It's Cam Jordan from New Orleans Saints here to tell you it's going down on season two of my podcast, Off the Edge with me, Cam Jordan. Can't stop it. You know what's going to happen. Can't stop it.
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Starting point is 00:54:16 or wherever you get your podcasts. Now let's name the game. What's the name of this game? You've got the great nicknames. All right. Oh. Oh. Is one of those the real name the game. What's the name of this game? You got the great nicknames. All right. Oh. Oh. Is one of those the real name?
Starting point is 00:54:28 No. We can pick one. We just have an option. Or something else. Montana versus Elway. Montana's Mile High Magic. Joe versus Joe. Joe versus John.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Can't read. Montana's Mile High Magic. Joe versus John. Or something that you think it should be. It needs to have something mile high magic Joe versus John or something that you think it should be it needs to have something mile high Joe enters the mile high club officially
Starting point is 00:54:50 there it is damn fuck that's so good yes now let's score the game presented by Winbet is this the greatest game
Starting point is 00:55:00 of all time let's score it stakes one to ten decimals okay. The stakes of this game. Regular season game. What am I saying? You gotta score it.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Stakes of this game. Regular season game. Of the game we just watched? Huge stakes. Huge stakes. We've done two goals. Week 7. Two teams have finished what, Jack? 9-7. The 14-year drought in Montana. Stakes high. 10. seven. The 14-year drought. And seven is Joe Montana. Stakes high.
Starting point is 00:55:25 Ten. Ten, baby. Broncos are one and four at this time. High stakes. Oh, one and four? Seven. Seven. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:55:33 That's integrity right there. Thank you. The star power of this game. Ten? Joe and John Elway? Joe Montana, John Elway, two future Hall of Famers, Marcus Allen.
Starting point is 00:55:41 Shannon Sharp. Looking for redemption from Al Davis. Al Davis. Now, what hurts this game is we do a lot of super bowls you get a lot of like celebrities there yeah you know week seven game not a whole lot of celebrity star power but it's were there even celebrities back then good love it 10 10 windbreakers were the celebrity the gameplay uh a little low on that because it's 24 penalties i mean it was a sloppy game. But you got a game-winning drive. Game-winning drive, back-to-back, but there were two fumbles.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Two fumbles. And two late fumbles. Sloppy. Turnovers, penalties, sloppy. What is it? 7-5. 7-5 and the name of the game. The name of the game?
Starting point is 00:56:19 That you named the name. Joe enters the Mile High Club. Yeah, Joe enters the Mile High Club. I mean, I think that's pretty good because we don't know for sure. I mean, it's Joe Montana, so I bet you he's already been in the Mile High Club. 100%. 100%, but this is officially. This is a different mile.
Starting point is 00:56:34 Officially, yeah. He just calls his wife from the bathroom. Yeah, yeah. Guy who's calling his wife on the sideline. I'm not going to give myself a 10 on that. You know, it's a 7. And also, too, how we like to think of name is like the cultural impact of it this is a regular season game from 1994 and we're still
Starting point is 00:56:50 talking about it there's a little bit of like juice that way a lot of juice eight what's the total what's the the score i'm bad at math me too we need gronk here look at this eagles fan fly yeah to the ground, motherfucker. 8.1. Got his ass. Got him. 8.125. You can't hear what I said, but I just roasted you. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:14 It's like how we feel when Mexican guys or Chinese people are talking about us in elevators. I know they're telling us to fuck ourselves. 8.125. 8. Where's it ranked? Yeah, where's that just ahead of the 2007 Fiesta Bowl
Starting point is 00:57:28 the Statue of Liberty game remember that one Boise State Oklahoma who was in that that was Boise State and Oklahoma Adrian Peterson
Starting point is 00:57:35 remember that great game the Statue of Liberty oh yeah yeah yeah that was a great one that was a great lecture game we had Zembranski and Zabranski Zembranski
Starting point is 00:57:41 yeah and AP and Adrian Pearson and AP right ahead of that one and then just behind the 1985 AFC championship game and Zabransky. Yeah, and Agent Pearson. And AP. Right ahead of that one and then just behind the 1985 AFC Championship game, the Squish the Fish game. Squish the Fish.
Starting point is 00:57:52 Who was that? That was Patriots. Gary Goldman. Patriots, Dolphins. We had Gary Goldman on to talk about that one. And that was when they went and got blown out
Starting point is 00:57:58 in the 85 Super Bowl. By the Bears. But they were leading. They were leading 3-0. My favorite Patriot from that time was a guy named Paul Fairchild. He played guard for the Patriots. He was a KU grad.
Starting point is 00:58:10 And when I went to KU football camp, he came and spoke to us. And I became a Paul Fairchild fan. Hell yes. At some point. But I rooted for the Bears in that Super Bowl. At some point, we got to get you back into the studio in Brentwood because I would love to do Kansas State beats state beats Oklahoma and like the big tent, the big 12.
Starting point is 00:58:27 Yes. Yes. You got to love Darren. Dr. Pepper. Big 12. We had a route named Darren Sproles because of, you know,
Starting point is 00:58:35 the angle route for the running back. Yeah. He was so electric at that route. That's not the wheel route, right? No, but he would, he would set that route up to look like the wheel route.
Starting point is 00:58:43 And then he would cut in front of the guy's face. So they'd overplay because of the wheel, and his shimmy was always so good. Darren. You know, he was one. And his punt returning, I love Darren's rolls, but I always hate them because I always finish second in punt returns because of Darren's return.
Starting point is 00:58:59 How scary is that? Come on. I loved it. I love it. You're cut out for it. But like the average person. Yeah, but you actually can prepare for that play more than you think because of the time. Can you hear footsteps?
Starting point is 00:59:13 No, but you know by you have like a quarterback clock. You have a punt clock in your head. You can tell by how far the punt is with how long it is in the air. There's a lot of trust on your guys, but you're always scanning the field. So you'll take a picture, then you'll get back to the punt, and maybe at this last second you'll take one more picture to see where everyone's at, and then you get the punt,
Starting point is 00:59:34 and then you go. That was something watching that 94 game makes you remember how great kickoffs were because remember the wedge? Oh, yeah. You see all those wedges. And the other thing about that is there were no long snappers on this roster. It was just offensive line doing the long snapping. Very good point.
Starting point is 00:59:50 Now it's a position. Now it's a specialized thing. Yeah. You can go to camp for it. It's so funny watching Joe Montana taking, he was the holder too, I think. You know, your starting quarterback is a goddamn holder. Can you imagine now? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Eric, anything to add about this game? No. Well, we'll see what happens. This will be on after the game, so I'll either look like an asshole or – but I think we're – I mean, I think we're going to win. I hope so. It's hard to bet against Mahomes right now. Right.
Starting point is 01:00:17 The only thing I don't like, which is Wentworth said last night, and I think he has a great point, is it's tough in the league, as you would know. I would not, not a former professional football player when you're on a hot streak. And then you have to sit for a minute. Like we were, we were hot. We won those last three games and now we had two weeks off and they weren't hot.
Starting point is 01:00:35 Right. And they get two weeks to think about not being hot. I know. I get a whole lifetime to think about not being hot. Get out of here. Not two degrees. Motherfucker's hot. He is hot. We can say it. Not two degrees. Motherfucker's hot. He is hot.
Starting point is 01:00:46 We can say it. We're comfortable. Intersexuality, right? No, I remember when the first time I met him, I was like, those goddamn blue eyes and that chin. I wouldn't know. I wouldn't know. Never made direct eye contact.
Starting point is 01:00:57 Well, thank you, Eric, for joining us. I appreciate it. This is an awesome episode. Yeah. And you want to plug anything? You good? No, I'm good. I have nothing to plug other than the Super Bowl Sunday.
Starting point is 01:01:07 We love that you came, man. Big fam. You got to come back. Thank you. Well, that was an educational, on so many different terms, type episode on how to be funny, on football rules, on football statistics, and just being an awesome football fan. Knowledgeable.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Dan had a big league someone. Who knew? Tom Brady. Two degrees. Two degrees. Two degrees. He got a new nickname, man. That was great.
Starting point is 01:01:37 His nicknames were, his nicknames are, he's so cool. He is a locker room guy. I bet Eric was giving everybody nicknames back in the day. Yeah. Or back in his frat days at KSU. He just so cool. He is a locker room guy. I bet Eric was giving everybody nicknames back in the day. Yeah. Or back in his frat days at KSU. Hilarious. He just loves sports. He was, I mean, these-
Starting point is 01:01:50 I asked him afterwards. I was like, yeah, did he ever need anything? Nah, he don't need anything. I just wanted to give him a say out. Here for the love of the game, baby. No plugs. We got to get him back here and have like a longer episode, not constrained by Vegas.
Starting point is 01:02:02 Yeah. I think he'd get into some fun stuff. He was a legend, man. I don't know if we're just getting lucky with Heidi, Eric, Rob, and we're getting them, but these Chiefs fans, they know their stuff. They're knowledgeable fans. They're kind of turning me, and Travis saying nice stuff about the show. It's hard to hate him.
Starting point is 01:02:19 I want to hate him so bad. It's more of a passing of the torch. Changing of the guard. I understand what they're going through So like that's why I respect them even more now With how they've been able to overcome And succeed Anytime they got people thinking the shit scripted over you You know you're in a fucking great spot
Starting point is 01:02:38 They hate us because they ain't us vibes I know And they play it well They sure do I've gotten to know those guys I hung out with Patrick Mahomes before he was a starter I know. And they play it well. They sure do. I've gotten to know those guys. You know, I hung out with Patrick Mahomes before he was a starter. Crossing paths with Trav. And they're just good-ass dudes.
Starting point is 01:02:55 You could tell they love ball and they work their fucking dicks off. So why wouldn't you want to see them go out and fucking do a three-peat? Hey, man, I'm rooting for them. Hey, Mike. Kill it, Trav. Love you, brother. Well, let's go back around Octoberober 17th 1994 what a year i mean whoa first year of football that was your first year of football wow it was city 49ers eight years old yeah kurt on the team or no no kurt no
Starting point is 01:03:20 what was the weight limit for you i had to be i had to be at least 45 pounds. I remember I had to put a couple things in my pockets. It was like 45 to 105. The fact that you, when I said a weight limit for youth football, you went how much you had to weigh versus me getting down to my underwear, having spit cups, trying to get under 120 or whatever. I remember. Mine was 55 for the little Giants couldn't play.
Starting point is 01:03:47 I wasn't there. I wasn't there. Damn. I was about eight pounds short, I think. Red Bull City 49ers, we were badass. Frank running that thing like the Army. Oh, it came from before my dad with Coach Frank Guida. Oh, shout out Frank.
Starting point is 01:04:00 Other Franks. Yeah, Coach Guida was, he was the guy. He kicked my dad off the field when he was like seven years old or eight years old. He had long hair. He said, get out of here, you hippie. That's how long he coached. He was like back in those days.
Starting point is 01:04:12 We call people hippies. Frank's a hippie. Frank. Yeah. That's why my dad never played ball boarder, because Coach Guido, who became one of our best friends as we grew up, as I grew up. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:04:24 No, but yeah, man. it was some serious shit over there in redwood city we won super bowls great great mix of guys how we had like a you'd have some of these like rich kids from woodside you have some of these hard-nosed white boys from like middle redwood city then you get a couple of these east redwood city kids you get like some of the black kids from like palo alto line right there we get a bunch of simones Redwood City kids. You get like some of the black kids from like Palo Alto line right there. We get a bunch of Samoans and Tongans. And like we were all rad disciplined. I remember going to like high school thinking it was a joke after like playing our Pop Warner
Starting point is 01:04:55 and how like hard we were coached and how well every single one of our guys knew their assignment. I mean, I remember my dad used to make up songs for the linemen head up to play side but if they're in the gap we block that gap unless it's a trap and he's got all these kids singing these songs for their their fucking foot placements i mean it was fucking some of the funnest i love pop warner football man that i learned so much i love it that's why sports are great man 94 great time man number one song i'll make love to you leave your goal on me too and i'll hold you bro the fits in this video go so hard oh my god i had to throw it on before this oh what do you have like a tank top and the jeans on his knees. Yeah, and you know the shirts.
Starting point is 01:05:47 Boyz II Men. There's always some wind coming in from somewhere and the shirts flowing. Love this. Sickle's last. Oh, so fire. Love Boyz II Men. Anytime that's at the top of the chart, you know it's a good year. Number one movie, Pulp Fiction.
Starting point is 01:05:57 Oh, brother. That's an icon. This might be one of our best duos of top song, top movie. It could very well be. And then you look down here. What else was at the box office little giants forrest gump and shawshank shawshank what was jurassic park wow let me see jurassic park might have been this year 94 too yeah man what a year at the box office look at the range though okay look at the range, though, okay? Look at the range you get. You get little kids, check, icon. You get drama, historical fiction, Forrest Gump, check.
Starting point is 01:06:29 And then, like, novel, drama, like, insane, check. And then we can even throw sci-fi, awesomeness, check, with Jurassic Park. Jurassic Park, 93, 93, 93. Still close. Wow. We're in the ballpark. That's earlier than I would have expected. Dude, I mean, Little Giants, Forrest Gump, Shawshank, and Pulp Fiction,
Starting point is 01:06:48 all rewatchables, all if you're flipping through cable. You stop and watch. You clear the afternoon. God, what a time. You think Forrest Gump could have played the NFL? I just watched it last night. I started it. No.
Starting point is 01:07:02 No? Couldn't pick up the block, the blitz. Made people run the ball, but, you know, I need them in protection. Nah, he can only go so far in between the men line. Bobby Boucher, though. Bobby Boucher, yeah, probably. He could be a hell of a special teamer. He could be a four-team phase guy.
Starting point is 01:07:22 You know, maybe a first and second down linebacker when you know it's a run we usually do a whole let's make a note of this let's make a segment at some point post-show segment best fictional football oh i'm down i'm down yeah i'm just thinking friday lights palco oh shane palco lefty he's living on the houseboat. Gene. But Adam Sandler in the longest yard. Oh, yeah. Or Burt Reynolds. Burt Reynolds would be great. Also a real football player.
Starting point is 01:07:51 You guys ever seen Brian's song? Brian's song? Cheer Jerker. I remember I watched it as a kid. Sad. Really sad. True story. That's one of those old times.
Starting point is 01:08:02 Brian Piccolo? Brian Piccolo. And then Nelson Mandela visited the United States. President of South Africa. Let's go. those old times. L-Series. Brian Piccolo. Brian Piccolo. Dude. And then Nelson Mandela visited the United States. Oh, hell yeah. He's the president of South Africa. Let's go. There you go. Geopolitical talk.
Starting point is 01:08:10 I like it. Got to keep it in the sports world. 1994. Oh, baby. Niners crushed the Chargers. Super Bowl 29. I remember this. I felt, only reason I felt bad, Junior Seau.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Oh, that was early Junior. That was Junior. Damn. So this was in 95, that was early junior. I was junior. Damn. So this was in 95, but it's a 94 season, so it was the extension of this season. Did Jerry Rice have the Super Bowl MVP? Let me double check. He had like four touchdowns. They gave it to Steve Young.
Starting point is 01:08:37 What, he threw for five or six? Let me double check his stats here. Because Shanahan was the coach, and he said he was going to throw a nine or something. Steve was 24 of 36, 325 for six TDs. Six TDs. And Jerry was 10 receptions, 149 yards, three TDs. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:08:58 Man. It's wild that that's not the MVP stat line. I guess the six TDs. He can't beat six touchdowns, but that's wild. Jerry got one, though, I think. I think he got a Super Bowl MVP. Yeah. Wayne Gretzky sets the NHL record for 802 career goals scored March 23rd.
Starting point is 01:09:16 It's a wild stat. It's a great one. It's a wild stat. Although, it was one of those stats. All of Gretzky's records are, like, unbeatable, except this one, Alexander Ovechkin is getting close. I think he's like 50, 60 goals away,
Starting point is 01:09:27 but he's fallen off a cliff this year. So it might be tough for him to get it. But Wayne Gretzky would love to have him on the show. Would do anything. The great one. He's so sick. He transcended hockey. He made it American.
Starting point is 01:09:40 And he's Canadian. But he's so cool. He made hockey American. When he, when he went from Edmonton to LA, that helped with hockey in America. That's why hockey became hockey. I live in Boston. It's always been.
Starting point is 01:09:55 But as not just a niche sport, Gretzky, bro. Ricky Hendrickson steals his 1,100 career base. Dude, Ricky. Legend. Ended up with like 1,403 stolen bases, I think it was. Who was that with? Was that with the A's? That was with the A's.
Starting point is 01:10:13 He was back with the A's at this time. Speaking of records, no one's going to break. I think Lou Brock is second. He's like 600 or something behind him. No one's even close that's currently playing. You know who you want screaming of records that will never be broke? Police, long police chase, OJ Simpson. Also this year.
Starting point is 01:10:32 It was this year, June 17th. I remember we, this was such a big thing. I'm in, what, I'm eight years old. So how old are you when you're eight? I mean, what grade are you in? Generally eight. Second? Second, yeah, you're in second or third third yeah maybe third i have a kid um
Starting point is 01:10:50 i remember them rolling we were watching this in t in in in school why the fuck are we watching this in school midday bro school in the 90s. Midday, school in the 90s. That rocks. Oh, OJ Simpson. School's ready to get out. It's June. We were driving by a white Bronco the other day. We were. That was awesome. Shout out OJ. Shout out Al Kellings. And this year also, Brazil defeats the Italians
Starting point is 01:11:18 in the World Cup. In the Rose Bowl. The Rose Bowl. What do you mean? Another great game at the Rose Bowl. What do you know well that's another great game at the rose bowl what do you know i bet you that would have probably been so cool that would have been so sick they should have done the world cup there this year he's gonna do world cup come to america here but it's gonna be at sofi not as cool not as cool should we hit this legacy real quick the legacy this game that we talked about with eric a bit of a deep cut to some it is a regular season game we
Starting point is 01:11:43 we've been doing a lot of playoff a lot of nfl super bowls all that kind of thing um this was an awesome regular season game it was number 55 on the nfl's top 100 list does that feel right to you guys does that placement of this game feel correct 50 i mean it's the it was the last time between these two. Yep. Yeah. I mean, these guys were the Brady Montana or the Brady Peyton. You know what I mean? They're two of the biggest. Yep. John had the edge, 3-2 in all-time head-to-head matchups,
Starting point is 01:12:17 but most notably lost the Super Bowl, 55-10. Joe smacked them. He had more Super Bowls, too. He had more Super Bowls too. He had more Super Bowls. What we should do is we should take the next 45 minutes and just name 54 better games. I think the listeners will be okay with that. A nice four-hour episode.
Starting point is 01:12:34 Yeah. I mean, if you go down the list of like the 100, like this is literally like a games with names checklist of like, yeah, we should do these. Yeah, we should do these. For all you listeners at home, 19, well, no one's's gonna be alive for this game sorry 1958 yes the greatest game the greatest game ever played is number one the nfl championship i want to do that game which is some like just find like an old dude i mean there's a lot of history there's probably a lot of stuff behind
Starting point is 01:12:58 that we've done two of the top 10 i mean so no we've done three of the top 10 macro reception we have done no that is not in there. Malcolm Butler. Malcolm Butler game is number eight, according to their list. Number nine is 28 to three. We've done that. David Tyree's helmet catch, 18 and one. That's number five.
Starting point is 01:13:14 We have done that. And then the Immaculate Reception, 13. So, I mean, ready. The greatest comeback ever in the Super Bowl. Pretty much in ever. Ever. And then one year. Number eight.
Starting point is 01:13:24 I mean, there's so much Patriot hate. I know. You're looking at these goddamn lists. So much Patriot hate. All right. Ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:13:32 28-3, number one. Joe Cool is one of the greatest nicknames, though. Big time. Even just Joe Montana is a great football name. Joe Cool makes me want to smoke a cigarette
Starting point is 01:13:39 for some reason. Like Snoopy? He's such a cool dude. Joe Camel? We got to get Joe on. Yeah, that's where you're coming from. Alright, here we go. It's Cam Jordan from New Orleans Saints
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Starting point is 01:15:45 Hey, this is Mike Wright from the Fantasy Footballers Dynasty Podcast. You heard that right. The Fantasy Footballers have officially entered the Dynasty space. Every week we bring you the same in-depth analysis and entertainment you've come to expect from the Fantasy Footballers, only now from a Dynasty perspective. Maybe you've been living in the dynasty fantasy football space for a while well we're here to take your game to the next
Starting point is 01:16:10 level maybe you love fantasy football and you've been feeling that itch to jump into the dynasty format but it feels a little bit intimidating no matter where you're coming from the fantasy footballers dynasty podcast has something for you and you're gonna have a great time listening i promise join me and the rest of the crew every wednesday for a new episode listen to the fantasy footballers dynasty podcast on the iheart radio app apple podcast or wherever you get your podcast um also we also talked with eric uh how Mile High was kind of a house of horrors for Kansas City along with a lot of other teams. Jules, where does Mile High rank to you amongst the greatest home field
Starting point is 01:16:53 advantages in sports? I mean, it's got to be up there. They've knocked this off twice in the AFC Championship. Did you play in the older building or no? No, I played in the newer one. I don't think the altitude hits you like what everyone says it does i don't like mexico city yeah no mexico city that was like 90 that was like 9 000 i think 6 000 the stadium but they've had a lot of big wins there so yeah i
Starting point is 01:17:18 would say i wouldn't say it's the best but it's's good. It's up there, though. It's definitely up there. Mexico City altitude, 7,349 feet. Denver, it sits at 5,280 feet in altitude, whereas Mexico City is 7,349 feet. A difference. Yeah, so it's like 2,000 feet more in Mexico. That'll hit you. That'll hit you. Joe joins the Mile High Club.
Starting point is 01:17:44 Jackie, that's what we named it. That's a good name. I like that name. I want to take Eric up. Joe joins the mile high club. Jackie. That's a good name. I like that name. I want to take Eric up on like, just shoot him a text. What do you call this one? Cause we're kind of at the bottom of the barrel with some of these games with names.
Starting point is 01:17:54 He's our, he could be our resident namey. You never know. I don't know. I don't think he's wants that title. He's more of a, you know, Hey,
Starting point is 01:18:03 I don't think he really wants his text on say every week hey that's true you just count that modern family money baby he said let me get that residue in the mailbox exactly oh man jackie we miss anything nah we were pretty good that episode um although i will say one thing i was a little bummed we didn't get to flesh out a little more. We talked Vince Wilfork throwing the shot put, man. That was awesome. So I had to do a little digging. Vince Wilfork was the 2000 state 4A champion in shot put and discus, if my research is correct.
Starting point is 01:18:41 Santa Lucia's high school in Florida. So shout out to Big Vince throwing that thing. Big V. I mean, I'm looking at a picture right here. He was good at anything. I never knew that. I mean, I knew. Like a ballerina, too.
Starting point is 01:18:51 He could dance. I knew the overalls. I knew he was nice on the smoker. I knew he drove the big rig. No. Shot put. Discus. He's a man of.
Starting point is 01:19:00 He's a renaissance man. Explosive. Quick. Legend. And he can make a mean barbecue. As far as locker room guy, cool guy. Was he cool? Yeah, he's like Big Daddy.
Starting point is 01:19:10 Hell yeah. He just kind of stayed in his own little area. No one mess with Big Daddy. I like that. Did you get one locker or did you get two? I think he had two. Yeah. Tom had two.
Starting point is 01:19:19 Big Vince deserved three or four in my book. Yeah. Nah, I think V, Big V. I think only Tom had two at the end. Oh, that's clutch. Big V needs a little studio apartment over there in the corner, bro. He's a legend.
Starting point is 01:19:31 But he was up in the defensive corner. Running shop, baby. Running it. I love it. But no, other than that, great episode, man. I final scored 8.125. Respectable?
Starting point is 01:19:44 Maybe a little high. Star. Maybe a little high. Star power, a little high. But once again, rescoring extravaganza. I thought it was good. I thought it was good. It's okay. It's not the worst. It's not the most egregious.
Starting point is 01:19:58 Let's just say we've been way worse. Let's go hit this hotline. Again, the number is 424-291-2290. What's up, Jules and the gang? I love when y'all describe parts of the NFL that us fans don't usually get to see. I was wondering if you'd describe those minor annoyances or those small things that suck about life in the NFL that us fans wouldn't know about.
Starting point is 01:20:24 Thanks. It's a great question. A lot of great things that come to being an NFL football player. Some of the things that, you know, that suck are you're put into like this. Everyone watches you. Everyone watches you. And sometimes they don't realize that some of these guys are humans you know a guy misses a catch doesn't do this doesn't you know and it he has a regular
Starting point is 01:20:52 life to go back to and he never gets to escape to that in that specific moment because of you know the world we live in. So that's tough. Scheduling's tough. People don't realize you spend, I know it's regulated a lot more now, but we would spend, you know, anywhere from 10 to 16 hours a day in the facility, you know, sacrifice a lot of family, relationships, all that kind of stuff, sacrifice during football season, which rightfully so, we get paid a lot of family relationships all that kind of stuff sacrifice during football season which rightfully so we get paid a lot of money um but you know it's it's tough with you know you get in you play a game you're beat up on the road all of a sudden you fly back immediately after
Starting point is 01:21:40 you have meetings at you know you get in if it was a monday night football game you have meetings at, you know, you get in, if it was a Monday night football game, you get in at four or five in the morning, five, six hours of sleep, then you come in, you got to watch the film, get a workout in. Like, it becomes a grind. Now, the first couple weeks, it's easy, you know, but when you're battling, your body hurts, you're getting yelled at by your family or someone a wife girlfriend this that uh you know you have to get your like it's it's it's a lot to manage so being a professional
Starting point is 01:22:15 athlete or being a football player great thing but you know there are a lot of tough things that come with being it what about like some like minor workplace type stuff like someone eating your lunch out of the fridge or like someone using your ax body spray like little like answer this question as if you're george costanza i played new england for 12 years i won't say no names but our omelet station guy i fucked up my omelet way too many times. I'll try to be a nice guy. I love, I love my guy.
Starting point is 01:22:49 We, we, we're cool, but you do remember the time I had to get back there because I got, I got so mad about it. I went back and made my own goddamn omelet. Send him back the omelet. How would he mess it up?
Starting point is 01:22:59 Overburn it. Or sometimes it'd be raw in certain areas, you know, or is this like a french style omelet or like an american diner style no bro it's like fucking omelet station you got a guy sitting here fucking putting shit in your goddamn omelet and it's my guy i love him i love him i never said anything to him i never said anything to him but i would go back and it would be six in the morning 5 45 in the morning and it would ruin my god damn day
Starting point is 01:23:27 Every time Then you gotta go back to the line And you want a little trail mix And you see your coach reaching in there with his bare hands That's another thing Workplace fucking cleansiness You can't be running off the god damn field In a humid
Starting point is 01:23:42 August Boston day Foxborough day sweaty stinky scratching your fucking balls all practice messing around your goddamn jock and put your hand in the fucking the nuts oh brother or take a fucking you know or take some of the grapes like oh you know what i mean because we have every fucking thing you could think of every fruit this that and the other well you know guys after covid everyone was clean everyone was starting but before that guys were going in there grabbing some shit coach i've seen you a few times not use the goddamn scooper. Oh, my God. I had to call you out, bro.
Starting point is 01:24:26 Nothing like a little side of that. I wouldn't eat from that thing because you know that they don't replace the bottom of the nuts, so you know that there's still that shit up in there. The residuals. Hey, there's some championship nuts down deep in there. Maybe we should go to the well. Oh, my God. Maybe we should go to the well.
Starting point is 01:24:45 Boy, it's Jordan from Boston. Love the well. Maybe we should go to the well. Boyd, it's Jordan from Boston. Love the program. I think two things. Number one, Kyler, thanks for calling guests out on giving everything a 10. Come on, Mark Cuban, 10 out of 10 for everything? Come on,
Starting point is 01:25:00 get real. One game I need you guys to do, probably love for you guys to do get venetary on the tuck rule game go through that playoff run epic kicks greatest kickers all the time first ballot hall of famer need them on the show boys love it keep it up go pat definitely gotta give venetary on he's jacked right now too a little salt and pepper salt and pepper gray beard ripped he's gonna be off hammered right 100 next right. A little salt and pepper gray beard. Ripped. He's going to be a Hall of Famer, right?
Starting point is 01:25:27 100%. He's up next, right? Yeah, 100%. First ballot. Is he going to be the first first ballot kicker? Ooh. Who's the other kicker? Gary Anderson. Morton Anderson.
Starting point is 01:25:36 Right, not Gary. Morton Anderson's like the only kicker. Him and like Ray Guy. Yeah. He's a punter. Which game do you do? So many. He'd be a great one for the Panthers.
Starting point is 01:25:44 The Panthers Super Bowl? Oh, yeah. That was epic punter. Which game do you do? So many. He'd be a great one for the Panthers. The Panthers Super Bowl? Oh, yeah. That was epic. Tucker Rule game? Nah, we probably wouldn't get him. It's like a documentary. We talk about it. Oh, Jan Stennerud and Morton Anderson are the only two.
Starting point is 01:25:56 First ballot. Yeah. The guy made so many clutch kicks. Justin Tucker will be next. Hey, people forget about Steve Gaskowski, though. Don't forget about old Stevie. Stevie had a bunch of kicks. And for a long time, he had, like, the record for career average.
Starting point is 01:26:11 You know, it wasn't until he fucked up his hip. People sleep on Steve Gaskowski. I mean, we got a lot of Super Bowls because of him. But, you know, Adam does have the memorable shots. The kickoff. The light's gone. Someone did a tweet the super bowl just happened that was like no i was saying like the kickoff of the the whole thing fantasy right the thing but like the kickoff like the start the super bowl it's got all the flashing lights and like someone made a tweet that's like the error of that is over because everyone's on their cell phone. No one's got the flash. So it's just kind of like
Starting point is 01:26:45 the flash bulbs were tight. That first shot with all the lights. Just like we were talking about with Eric. No more Monday Night Football. Or am I going to have the luster like this game? Well, thank you, Jordan. Great. You're a smart, intelligent human being. We all appreciate you.
Starting point is 01:27:03 This was a 10 call-in. Oh, my God. Jordan is one of your buddies you put up with this. Krabby call. He's not, but he has a 413 number, so we're very akin spirit. Thank you, Jordan. Krabby Keiler. Jordan that loves the Russian judge.
Starting point is 01:27:19 Hey, what's up, y'all? Just got a quick question. Are the Cowboys going to the Super Bowl next year? I really think it's our year next year. I knew it was supposed to be this year and the year before, but I really think next year is going to be our year. Peace. Spoken like every Cowboy fan ever.
Starting point is 01:27:40 They'd be good for the league. Yeah. But if they go in and they... It just seems like it's the same thing every year with them. Real good in the regular season. Light jokers up that need to be lit up. Bad teams. Battle.
Starting point is 01:27:58 Two of the really good teams, really good. Maybe sneak a win away. And when it comes to playoffs, man, I don't know. For whatever reason, they got to get that monkey off their back. Something. I mean, like... You always know there's going to be one or two games they drop to the Cardinals or somebody this year. They're going to drop one to somebody.
Starting point is 01:28:15 Cardinals are always sneaky, though. Right, but I mean, one team like that. They're going to always drop one game they shouldn't lose during the year, and they're not going to get home field advantage in the playoffs, and they're going to lose to whoever in this joke. They got to get a running back. Yeah. If only there was some coach out there with a winning pedigree that was just there.
Starting point is 01:28:31 Mike McCarthy, yeah. Yeah. What about this, though? I was just thinking about that. Who's the one coach that knows how to stop Andy Reid's offense? Bill. I saw a wild fan theory on TikTokiktok last night that they would bring bill in his dc in san francisco i was like what are you talking about and that's even saying to
Starting point is 01:28:53 you no bill ain't that was gonna say bill is deep get out of here some joke is trying to reason it out he i felt like he always he always knew how to dial up against Andy. Always. I mean, I know we had DCs, and that's Bill. We had DCs, and that's Bill. Ain't nobody had titles. We saw that for years. You know, DCs, Bill.
Starting point is 01:29:16 Go into Arrowhead. Tyreek Hill, he doesn't scare us. Even that Eagles. Eagles Super Bowl. Oh, yeah. Donovan McNabb puking in the huddle. Tio. Tio had a broken leg.
Starting point is 01:29:28 Freddie Mitchell. Where he's still bald. Fred X. Dude, I hate Fred X. Screw him. Yeah. He's in our comments talking smack too now.
Starting point is 01:29:35 Is he? He just won't go away. Get out of here, buddy. Has Bill ever said anything about Freddie Mitchell ever? No. Okay. Just that one clip.
Starting point is 01:29:43 Who? I would say who? Yeah, I don't know. Cowboys. I mean, come on. We got some demons to overcome. And that demon just so happened to be the way to get to the Super Bowl. A little more salt on that egg McMuffin.
Starting point is 01:29:56 Maybe it'll get you there. Get some garlic. Or is that vampires? It works. It'll work for this. Get some garlic. Get some sage. Didn't Aaron Rodgers sage something? I kairi did or kairi at the garden yeah we need a sage we need garlic and we need silver just to start stabbing like just in case something yeah should bury
Starting point is 01:30:20 something slash seance slash get, slash overcome our demons. Maybe they got to sacrifice Tony Romo. After the fumbled snap. Ever since then, I mean. No, they did better. Sorry, Romo, we love you. They're going to get their corner back. I mean, we'll see.
Starting point is 01:30:41 Yeah. Hey, Jules. We got to get some knowledge and get some info. What's the story on Jack? He's behind the deck. He's running the show. He's doing all the things behind the scenes. Bring him into the light.
Starting point is 01:30:59 What's his story? Where did he come from? I didn't say. I'm usually pretty good on the voicemail. I never saw this question I snaked this one in Oh my goodness Old Jackie
Starting point is 01:31:09 What's my story? Do we give him The abridged version Do we go Davidson I mean I hail from Davidson Yes North Carolina
Starting point is 01:31:15 North Carolina That's where I hail from I work for Coast Productions Julian's production company Doing some writing Some creative development Some producing stuff
Starting point is 01:31:24 Alongside Kyler and Asaf. And he's a Bay Magnet. Yeah, there we go. Watch the DMs. The DMs are open. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know what else to tell you. Big basketball guy.
Starting point is 01:31:37 You were a scholarship manager at Elon. Basketball manager. Let me see what else. I don't know. Not much to tell. When we first hired Jack, he came in with, like, pages of, like, this is when we were doing, like, the smoothie time and burger time skits and shit. He had, like, pages of, like, sketches that he, like, wrote. I'm kind of thinking, did you move to Boston to, like, take an interview with us?
Starting point is 01:32:01 No, I was living there already. I was sleeping on couchesches crashing in Boston with my boys Pat and Anton helped Jules do his prep for inside the NFL before this and that kind of led to sitting in Fox and now I'm kind of the resident sort of stat
Starting point is 01:32:17 guy over here but as far as running the show goes, no. Kyler is on the show rundown running that thing. You're the heart of the show. You're the spark plug, buddy. Ohler's on the show rundown running that thing. Yeah, but you're the heart of the show, Jack. You're the spark plug, buddy. Oh, my goodness. What else am I doing back here? Such a little piece that makes such a big difference.
Starting point is 01:32:32 Oh, thanks, guys. But, yeah, I'm over here pulling stats and Googling stuff and chiming in. I don't know. That's the story. You'll learn more. I'll learn more. Just keep listening. I'm like an onion, baby.
Starting point is 01:32:44 Be right back. Like a blooming onion Shout out Outback What an episode Thanks again to Eric Stone Street Compound word last name Compound word last name
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