Games with Names - “Statue of Liberty Game” with Adrian Peterson and Jared Zabransky | 2007 Tostitos Fiesta Bowl: Boise State vs. Oklahoma

Episode Date: August 30, 2022

We revisit one of the greatest college football games of all time: The 2007 Tostitos Fiesta Bowl aka “The Statue of Liberty Game.” We look back on what was up in January 2013 (7:45). Jules & Sam break down both of these squads as they look back at the game (16:50). Adrian Peterson and Jared Zabransky join the show (31:19). We wrap it all up and score the game (1:12:42). Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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January 1st, 2007 state farm stadium, Glendale, Arizona. It's overtime. Fourth and two from the five-yard line, the undefeated Boise State Broncos trail, the number seven Oklahoma Sooners.

Quarterback Jared Zebranski motions out. They snap it to the running back. He rolls out. He's going to throw. Touchdown. 42-41. The extra point ties it. But wait. Are they going for two? This is the Statue of Liberty game.

Hello. Welcome to Games with Names presented by WinBet. I'm Julian Edelman. I'm Sam Morrell. And we're on a search to find the greatest games of all time. Today's episode, the 2007 Tostitos Fiesta Bowl. Number seven, Oklahoma, the Sooners, versus number nine, the underdogs, the Boise State Broncos. Special guest Jared Zebranski and Adrian Peterson. We got a doozy, man.

Doozy. Two guests. Two guests. Different perspective, different side. One's going to be happy. One's going to be mad. Or they both could be happy. We're going to figure it out.

Maybe they're both content. Maybe they're both content. Maybe they're just happy people. This game was insane. I'm not a huge college sports guy, so I love the pro sports, but they sent us this game, and I was like, yeah, this is a classic. This is insane. Instant classic. I remember being, it was 2007.

I played college football. We didn't go to bowl games, so I was at home visiting my family because we had a lot of off time. But in the dungeon, a bunch of friends. That was the room I lived in. We called it the dungeon because it was like an outlaw unit. You had to go outside to get in. And the fireworks from this.

I'm going to bring women back to the dungeon. You want to come back to my dungeon? It's a house of higher education, okay? We had a mechanic and a homemaker. That's what we had. Fair enough. We kept it pretty PG there. We kept it very PG there.

But back to this game. I remember sitting in that room and everyone wanted the Boise State Broncos to win because they were the underdogs, especially guys like me. I was in the MAC Mid-American Conference, wasn't one of these big top five conferences, and you had a team representing the

little schools going in. A lot of controversy about these Boise State teams because they got really good talent, but they played in the whack at the time. But you still wanted to see them go out and win against the – that's a cornerstone program. It's David versus Goliath.

It's a classic underdog. Boise State, to me, is like the team that gets no respect. They keep winning, but no one respects them. They had a track record what the year before they beat the oregon ducks in the in the what holiday bowl and then the year before that that that's when everyone started talking crap because they go out they get undefeated they let them into a bcs game and they end up losing who'd they lose to jack they lost to louisville in the liberty bowl. Louisville in the Liberty Bowl.

Were they undefeated that year? They were. So that's when people were like, all right, you go out, you win 12 games in the WAC. You're playing San Jose State. You're playing all these smaller type schools. When you start playing these big, big big big schools these these dog schools you're nothing and that's what they were dealing with all week in the media or all month because they have a month before the game crazy going into this crazy i mean i mean the the way they

even talk about this game is oklahoma the most winningest franchise since world war ii program program sorry winning this program since world war they could Program. Program, sorry. Winningest program since World War II. They could have just said the 40s. They don't have to bring war into this, I thought. Remember that time we nuked Japan? That's how long they've been good. But no, they've been on fire forever, and it is the small school versus the huge program, you know?

Yeah. I mean, the funding that Oklahoma gets compared to boise state i wonder what that looks like crazy and that's and that's the thing like when you watch this game you know they they get up on them they jump on them early in the game they're up what 20 20 they get it they get to they have 21 points in the third quarter and the mo for you know smaller schools when you play against these big schools is you run out of depth. The big team, they'll learn you.

They'll play with you in the first half. And then they're going to say, all right, we're just going to blow you up in the second half. Because they've got guys who aren't even playing who are probably monsters at these big schools. 100%. They've got first-teamers, second-teamers, teamers that are all that have all been recruited to oklahoma yeah i bet you half the guys and at boise state probably couldn't even start at oklahoma that's what makes

this such a great game for these these broncos and the boise state university like that that's pretty cool that's that's like pretty cool when you can go in i remember one year we were playing back when i was at kent state we were we went out and we played a bcs school iowa state we went out and beat them and like this is on a whole different you know scale this is like so much bigger but like the fact that we went out there on the road beat a team that was supposed to beat the brakes off us, that's one of the best feelings in the world. How do you celebrate when you beat a team like that?

In college? Yeah. We're going back to the football house. We're going to knock down some Teddy Brewskis. Then we've got to run on the next day. Usually you have to run on Sundays. But you have fun. But you're young enough that that hangover is not that vicious no rolling drinking 20 beers and then the next day

running like 21 10s and it's like easy remember the 20 beer nights like it's crazy what gives you a hangover now and then back in the day you could drink i remember those beer pong games we were like how do we go through this many beers? How dirty were beer pong games? How did monkey pox not start there? I mean, that was crazy. Monkey pox. We got something new, huh?

A new thing. Hopefully, by the time this comes out, that we're not wiped out by monkey pox. We're joking about it. It's actually transmitted, too. Is it? Yeah. I mean, don't have sex with monkeys. It's a bad idea. So monkeys and bats now. God. Rodents transmitted too. Is it? Yeah. I mean, don't have sex with monkeys. It's a bad idea.

So monkeys and bats now. Oh, God. Rodents too. I guess rodents, right? You know, or bats, rodents, technically. Flying rodents? I don't know. I saw a rat here in New York City.

Yeah. I thought it was a dog. They're huge. He literally had a chunk of cheese. He literally had a chunk of cheese. He was carrying a chunk of cheese. Like, what the fuck? Where did he find this? This is literally a movie.

It was disgusting. I was terrified. The cartoon rats. He looked at me. He looked at me, too, and said, what are you going to do about it? Like, that's the look he gave me. I'm like, hey, let me get out of your way. Fuck.

I saw a couple fighting on the subway platform once, and they're screaming at each other, and as they're yelling, a rat runs up to the woman's foot and bounces off and runs away, and she screams, and her boyfriend just laughs in her face. Such a New York moment. Only in New York. Only in New York.

Only in New York. Anyway, what was going down in January 1st, 2007? The number one movie was Night at the museum i never saw it honestly i know it's a huge movie yeah i didn't i've tried to watch it a couple times big ben stellar fan he's great yeah owen wilson owen wilson and this is when this is when they were big this is like their heyday too this this thing grossed a crazy amount of money i think but i never i actually went to that museum what is the history of national history natural history yeah i wasn't that impressed what julian this new york

slander must stop it wasn't impressed i felt like i got coveted in there i love it fully it was like so dirty you're walking and you're seeing dinosaur bones and you're like but they're not even real dinosaur bones they're good enough porcelain i want to see the real deal they got like you go there and you see like you know they have the different like terrains and stuff and it's it's fake everything's fake how about the cave woman with the hairy chest how about that we've come a long way we've evolved we've evolved we've evolved i mean can you imagine if you were with a woman one night stand beautiful woman takes her top off hairy nips you'd be like wow right yeah natural history throwback i've yeah yeah you gotta keep it you gotta keep it

scaped yeah even if you have that yeah unless you're a guy in which case it's really uh classy and cool yeah once i hit 30 i stopped trimming my arms and stuff you trimmed them yeah dude what do you think makes them look all buff on tv and stuff is when you you shave your arms i mean i don't have that problem you know i'm okay being here baseball guys you tape them up your arms are all veined up because you can't even breathe you're taking the circuit you're doing is like a power thing like check out shredded i am i guess that's what it is pretty cool it makes you look jacked did you do the chest oh everything damn clean but don't you have to what happens when you get some stubble back you you do get an ingrown hair every once in a while the thing is it's hard like when you try to like i have

hairy ass legs and you're like i i remember once i thought you're gonna say hairy balls you went down there like i have hairy balls no i got hairy legs and so like one time i only shaved up to like because you really shave for your legs for your like getting your ankles taped because i used to like tape act on actual ankle why do you do that because you get your ankles taped every day for work you know you pull the hair it feels like shit hurts you know it hurts so like you take it down or massage when you have hairy legs you get massaged a lot it soaks up a lot of the lotion so you trim for that as well yeah i've got the cupping with the hairy back yeah it doesn't stick it's a nightmare we just lost all our female listeners sorry yeah with my hairy back

it's crazy how when the older you get you get like just weird hair yeah everywhere else but i going back to that story i would shave i shaved just to like my knee yeah and fucking sean springs we were in the shower and he made fun of me he goes did you just shave your your knee only and so i got embarrassed i was a rookie and so the next time i shaved everything off and i go hey sean i shaved it and he goes don't ever talk to me in the shower i was like you just told me last time we're sharing i like so that was like nothing to him but that stuck with you and you're like i'm gonna show that's like your costanza jerk story moment but with your uh with your naked body you're like, I'm gonna show. That's like your Costanza jerk story moment, but with your naked body.

I just watched that. I follow this account on Instagram. Just shows all those clips of Seinfeld. Classic. The best. So good. Also, number one song, Irreplaceable by Beyonce.

How did that go again? How did it go? I could get another man in a minute. By the way, if you can get another man in a minute, then why are you writing the song? If it means nothing? If you can have another man like that, guess what? The song's three and a half minutes, right?

You can have three minutes. Where's the man? Three. Where is he? As a matter of fact, he'll be here in a minute. Well, it's been three and a half. Beyonce's great. It's a great song.

To the left, to the left. That was the... I used to love Beyonce. She's great. I loved her in Destiny's a great song To the left To the left That was That was the I used to love Beyonce She's great I loved her in Destiny's Child When she had She had the What'd she have

The She had the She had braids Like blonde braids Beautiful Cowboy hat Yeah They were great

Man Remember this Apple unveils the iPhone I do remember that Yeah I remember It's classic I went to Mansfield, Ohio to the Walmart. Walmart.

No, yeah, I was in Walmart. Was it Mansfield? It could have been Mansfield. But I went to the Walmart and I got it. And every time I would go to the Walmart, because there's a huge Amish population in Ohio, like right next door. They were missing out on that Walmart. Missing out? I see the Amish.

Walmart's awesome. I saw them. The kids would be in there playing video games and stuff yeah they would go and hang out in walmart it was like tight i would be like i thought they're not supposed to i don't know they're not supposed to have electric or anything how good must video games be if you're amish because they're good for us but can you imagine if you've just been denied that your whole life yeah i mean that must be insane it's like kingpin you and he entered you got introduced to bowling and he was hooked dude can you give a kid a video game that's an underrated there

should be a portion of this podcast where we just throw a shout out classic sports comedies that's a great one bill murray the hair the i always wanted because i used to bowl in college i always wanted can you bowl not anymore my wrist is jacked up but like that's like a big football thing because you need to have like you know team bonding and stuff so like you'd always go to bowling alleys and there's like teddy bruski is like an insane bowler it's so it's so cool to me to be a good bowler to me it's just like a cool thing yeah like i would go with friends and we all suck but then you'd have one friend who just knew how to put the spin on it, and you'd be like, how the fuck did you do that? It makes a sound, you know, like little...

It's beautiful. When it gets out of your ear, you hear it. Yeah. Where, like... You flick it, yeah. When you flick it right and you hear that, it's like hitting a homer, striking those bad boys. And once again, 2007, I was in Ohio.

Technically, at this time, I was back in the bay area because we never went to a bowl game never got to have that experience of getting like a free video game like a cool duffel bag and you know all the you know like they give up like that was the thing about going to bowl games cool cool party bag you get like an insane party bag and like when you're a kid getting free free shit that was like the coolest thing ever yeah i remember going to like getting drafted the patriots we got free gatorades there and i was like oh my god this is amazing free anything is cool i still get so excited by like even free pizza free anything i'm i'm still super pumped if it's free give me three yeah dude i love free. What was the coolest free shit you got from the Patriots?

I mean, you get all the merch and stuff. I got pretty callous to that. I mean, we get headphones. I get like five or six pairs of headphones from all the competitive brands. Is it because they just want pictures of you wearing it? Yes. Do you have to post you wearing it or no? No. The league has relationships, and they also have their endorsements so they give it to all

the league nice so you get that i got a dope uh this guy made me a custom cornhole set with like put all like my my old kent state uh csm patriot stuff and then i'm actually i got i got a free poker like a dope poker table that has like a mural of all like my football stuff too that's amazing i get some really you get people are awesome got dope paintings by like awesome artists creative stuff like the poker creative stuff that's the coolest that's the coolest stuff but when you're a kid you know like early on in my career i got a pair of uggs from tom because he would give everyone uggs for for christmas from his uh boots or slippers slippers i have the slippers at home they're insane yeah

they're amazing nothing like it i got those in a gift bag i think from from tonight show i think i got it and then you're like that's a thing i'll actually use you You know, that's amazing. Yeah. You could never have too many slippers. It's always a good sign when people are like, hey, what size are you when you're going to do something? And you're like, yes, the best. I'm going to get some free shit. So I was endorsed by Puma like in 2013 or something. And I would go and you could just have like shopping sprees at like a puma

store that's pretty cool right and so i went whatever you wanted whatever you wanted i literally went and rang up a like a bill of like ten thousand dollars at this puma store i bought like every size everything girls guys and i brought it to the house. I filled up my whole car with all these fucking shoes, shirts, this, that. And anytime we would throw a party, I would always have to say, hey, go to the entrance area and I have all the shoes lined up.

People would take a pair of shoes. It was awesome. Cool party gift. That's a really cool party gift. The Puma Clydes. Walt Frazier, man. Respect. Gotta love them.

Let's get into these teams. Boise State. 12-0 entering the Fiesta Bowl. Nine on the AP. Eight on the BCS. Finished 13-0. Coached by Chris Peterson in his first year. He came up through the grind.

He was what? The quarterback's coach. He was this coach. They called him like a play savant. he came up through the grind. He was what? The quarterback's coach. He was this coach. They called him like a play savant. He reminds me of the play. Remember in Waterboy where the guy had his notepad? Yeah. What was his name?

Fonzie. What's his name? Henry Winkler. Henry. He had his little playbook. That's what I think about when I think of Chris Peterson. He had like 840 plays. 840 plays.

That is so crazy to get all that information in a kid's mind. Is that crazy hard to remember? It is tough. I mean, a lot of it, if play calling and like personnel groups, you got to learn it conceptually because you could have the same concept that comes from a different formation or a different personnel group. And that's technically a different play, but it's the same play play just different people are running it or they're coming from different areas but did people ever forget it on the patriots did anyone ever like we're like what are you doing no if you forgot it you weren't there you know what i mean like you have to make flash cards like it's a big part of the evaluation process for you know guys in

training camp and organized team activities mini camps a big part of the evaluation process for, you know, guys in training camp and organized team activities, mini camps. A big part of that evaluation is can they take in the material and can they be accountable to know their shit? Because if they can't, you can't even do anything. Doesn't matter how good you are. If you can't, you don't know the playbook, you can't play. Crazy. It's about trust. You know what I mean?

Like if you didn't know the playbook and you got to go like Tom Brady, he's not going to throw the ball over there. If he has, you have a 30% chance of fucking up. Yeah. Because what if you, you fuck up and you saw in this, in this game, the interception that, uh, some Bransky through, that was probably a miscommunication that could have been, you know, reasoning because they had too many plays. I don't know.

We're going to have to ask him. Yeah. Uh, notable wins at Wyoming, Hawaii, Utah, San Jose State. Barn burners over there in the WAC, huh? I actually almost went to San Jose State. Did you? Yeah. Over Kent?

No. It was like the small school in the area I grew up in. But did part of you want to get out of there? Yeah, I wanted to get out of there, but I still just wanted to play Division I football. But don't, to me, and I don't know this at all, this is your world, but I would be stressed out if I had to, like I like going on the road for comedy

because I can focus, no distractions. When I'm here, I'm distracted. I have friends hitting me up. New York City. But weren't you worried about friends being like, get me tickets, let's have a drink after york city but when don't weren't you worried about friends being like get me tickets let's have a drink after stuff like that didn't that worry you no i just want to play football like you know what i mean and and you also when you're young i'm i'm so thankful i did leave the bay area and i went to ohio i got to experience dip part of

the country but you know there's always a little fear of leaving home you know leaving your area sometimes and you know it was a small school i thought a young young guy big names that played in this game we got jared zembranski big z i think they call we got to find out what they call them that's that's such a nickname last names big z is pretty good yeah cory hall yeah running back ian johnson who married his he got he married as the cheerleader engaged the cheerleader after the game after he did that they go does it get any better than this i was like uh yeah did you watch the game anyone can propose did you see the game it was crazy i mean he's probably all hopped up man are they together still jack looks like they are still together all right one. One child. One child.

Good stuff. That's awesome. It was a nice moment. I'm not trying to, you know, but the game was better. That's all I'm saying. I mean, double whammy for him. Cornerback Orlando Skandrick played a lot against him. He was a good football player.

We trained together a bunch in the off seasons. He was good. This was Bsu's second undefeated regular season in three years amazing they were mopping up on these teams yeah you know and they they deserve to be in this as much as everyone wanted to hate on them saying hey they didn't play anyone well you know you can only play the team that you're you're scheduled to lose yeah uh 2004 undefeated regular season ap number 10 uh they lost 44 to 41 to louisville in the liberty bowl that's the year that oklahoma lost to usc at the national championship there's those insane usc usc games i remember them they were stacked

oh my god they were there was like talks that they because that's when the niners were really bad there was talks that like they could beat the niners for that but they couldn't come on i don't know they're pretty good they could beat i don't know they probably they definitely couldn't but i mean that team had a lot of they had a lot of stars. Yeah. A lot of good football players. Damn. Reggie Bush, he was on one of those teams, right? Yeah. Reggie Bush.

Reggie Bush. He was incredible. Lendell White. Yeah. You got Matt Leiner. Yeah. I mean, they had an insane defense. I remember that I played with the Ting brothers.

They were the safeties. Yeah. They actually, I grew up playing Pop Warner with them. Yeah, man. They actually led up a big play to lose that game against texas but well shout out to them we got oklahoma 11 and 2 entering the fiesta bowl number seven of the app number 10 in the bcs coached by bob stoops stoops notable wins nebraska at missouri at texas a&m oklahoma state uh adrian peterson was on this team i mean one and psyched to get him on the show here trent williams uh a lot of dmps though he had sam bradford gerald mccoy demarco murray all dmps sam bradford he

played like lights out the year before and then he got hurt when he tears acl you know he was he was a big big time college football player and adrian peterson just coming off an injury for this game so thing is adrian peterson coming off an injury in the nfl he ran for 2 000 yards off of like six months off of acl surgery just a killer you know how like superman you have to be to do that he's he's top is he top 10 running back ever probably right he's gotta be yeah i mean he's he was a monster for a long time in this league he was yeah it's gonna be interesting to hear his perspective about this yeah it's cool he's coming on uh by the way after

early season losses to oregon and texas they entered the fiesta bowl on an eight game winning streak so they're red hot coming into this hot well they didn't start like there's a bunch of guys that got like suspended or kicked off the team before the year like uh in the off season so like they had to find out what they were they were you know what i mean sometimes those first year you don't have the luxury to do that in college football where you can lose a game especially in this time with the bcs system where you had to win every week and the amount of points you won by was huge and mattered so you know that's why they didn't get into the big one now we have the college football which is good so it eliminates a lot of that kind of yeah and this is

i mean this is a david versus goliath matchup we've talked about that i mean it's it really is boise state really is an underdog i wonder how many times we're gonna say david versus is that gonna be is that gonna be thrown into the prop i mean how many times have we said that already i mean if you got david you've got a lot goliath let's see how we can work that in i mean it's we'll see we'll get to the prop bet soon um since 1999 these two were the most winningest programs in all of college football pretty cool that's yeah i mean there was a lot of good football teams there i mean that's what those uscs that's when oregon was starting to get popping i think man things we may have forgotten. OU starting quarterback Rhett Bomar was dismissed from the team in August

and Paul Thompson took over. Hmm. Maybe that had something to do with those first couple losses. Bomar apparently filed for 40 work hour weeks in Norman, Oklahoma, but he was really only doing five hours a week he was getting paid eighteen thousand dollars damn i mean now if it was nowadays they would have been all right with it yeah i've been all right dang just a kid trying to make a couple shekels the rules have changed rules are rules though a second player was starting o-line jd quinn he was also dismissed boise state was a

second in the country in total offense team offense must have been peterson's play calling ability and zembranski's throwing ability boise state has gone on to win the Fiesta Bowl twice since 2007, an 0-9 over TCU, 14 over Arizona. OU's quarterback, Paul Thompson, moved from QB to receiver in the previous season. So this guy really wasn't their quarterback. He was probably backup plan, had to jump in, did a great job getting that team going, getting them on an eight game streak i mean there's so much to remember but this game of course the hook and ladder play with a few

seconds left in the game re-watching that it is one of the most insane uh plays fourth down yeah fourth down back against the wall yeah BCS team versus small school team. Yeah. Throwing out gadgets, doing whatever it took to win the game. But people don't realize how perfectly they executed that play. To hit that, then go into overtime. Yeah. AP goes and scores 30-25 right out the gate first play.

Unstoppable runner. Unstoppable. time yeah ap goes and scores 30 25 right out the gate first play unstoppable runner unstoppable so boise state they end up going and scoring on you know the fake run pass the little rollout where is he gonna run it is he not guy slips out into the seam touchdown and real balls real ballsy to go for two they knew they couldn't they couldn't hang in there with the goliath it's an underdog move you're like hey this should we be here i don't know they did give up a lead though to get i mean they were dominating but uh yeah they they go for two i mean is there anything more exciting game on the line going for two we're not extending the game we're going for it all in the fashion they did though they pull out one of the oldest tricks in the book the statue of liberty fake great ball handling by zembranski

where he gives a little like left-handed ball where he throws over there and uh followed by an even more exciting play the proposed proposed engagement. So I'm kidding. No, the game was better. But the proposing was beautiful. This won the 2007 ESPYs for Game of the Year and Play of the Year. I mean, that's pretty big. That's awesome. I mean, especially for Boise State.

That had to be great for that university. Those guys probably had the time of their lives you know a lot of those guys were you know not highly recruited guys that went to the big school to go out and get to beat that big school in the fashion they did here's a question if he loses the game does he not propose to her is this like a sliding door situation where it's like they lose and he's just like i don't want to get married it wouldn't be on tv it wouldn't be sure as hell wouldn't it wouldn't be on tv it'd be you know we wouldn't know about it uh so uh should we do the gaming corner here presented by win bet jack what do we got oh jack sorry oh yeah there's another little anecdote in the uh weeks following the game when this was hyped up everywhere boise state had uh reverend jesse jackson on campus and he said there's something

about that game that's a metaphor for the american dream so wow you know it's big when when jesse's throwing it in the speech i met him once at a knicks game and uh i just i was so starstruck by him that i just stared at him and And he caught me staring at him. And he just walked over and shook my hand. He must just be used to getting recognized. You know? The guy's been in some historical things. Yeah.

I was kind of like, holy shits. Jesse Jackson. He just walked over and shook my hand. He was like, oh, this guy's been staring at me for a really long time. What a pro long time. What a pro, though. He was a pro. He shook the hand.

Let's get to the gaming corner presented by WinBet. Relevant betting lines. Oklahoma was minus 7.5. Loss. Lost that one. Over under 50.5. That went way over. Right? Barnburner at the end.

Yeah. Boise State plus 240. They won that one. Yeah. That's the money line, right? Yeah. That's right. If you had 100 bucks on that game,

you're winning 240. Jeez. Our math has gotten better. I'm getting there. Our math is getting, we're getting there. So for the prop bet, the over under of not,

we did say that's the over-under of times we can say David versus Goliath. I think we could hit five easy. If it's between both of us, I mean, maybe we should go six. Six-five? Or five-five? Five-five. Five-five.

Yeah, five-five. David versus Goliath. Between the both of us, we're going to do this easily. Boomer sooner? That's the horse, right? Or is that the i think it is and it's also the uh kind of the i don't want it's their equivalent to roll tide kind of the saying

boomer sooner no we don't need to do that we got dave risk that sounds that sounds like another word for premature ejaculator. A boomer sooner. Sooner boomer. How many times Jules mispronounces Zembranski? Do you mispronounce it? Have I mispronounced it? I think we're putting an M in front of the B. Say it.

Zembranski. All right, let's take this. I go two. Z-Man. What are we doing? All right, let's take this. I go too. Z-Man. What are we doing? All right, we're going to hear from Adrian Peterson and Jared Zebranski. But before, let's take a quick break. All right, we're joined here by Jared Zebranski.

Zebranski? Zebranski. We call him Z. He doesn't like big Z. He's just Z. And then to segue to Adrian Peterson, as we call AP. So we could actually make a poem off of your two names, Z and AP. Z and AP?

I like it. I'm a poet and I didn't know it. We'll start with Jared. He's from Oregon. He played a couple years for the CFL, the Edmonton Eskimos. He was on the cover of EA Sports College Football 08. Oh, I love that game. Classic.

That's a game of our generation. I think they're trying to bring it back. They brought it back. But if you were on that cover, and I think, AP, you were on that cover too, weren't you? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we got two cover athletes here. Wow.

For one of the best football games in the history of the game keep what i mean college football legend happy to have him jared zabransky thanks for joining us man he was on boise state which has literally pretty much revolutionized the small school can hang with the big dogs yeah you know so he was a absolute stud you could see he was the leader of that team guy played under pressure the winningest football organ the football programs from 1990 on till now is actually oklahoma and boise state so that's pretty cool and we'll get into ap here born in texas raised in texas then he went to oklahoma what what the hell oh yeah yeah yeah i had to man i had to get out of the state of texas man it was unfortunate because i grew up

a longhorn fan you know my uncle went to ut i used to go and watch when he was there with Applewhite and Ricky Williams, all those guys, Roy. But, you know, when it came around to it, I felt like Oklahoma was a better fit for me. I got a quick story for you, AP. You said Applewhite. Remember he was the head coach at Houston? Mm-hmm.

Well, they asked us when we played the Super Bowl over there, they asked me to come in and speak to the team. And, like, I go in and I go, thank you, Coach Applewood, for letting me in here. And, like, the whole team starts cracking up. Everyone's fucking yelling at me. I'm like, oh, shit. But let's get back to AP.

Won a Heisman. Did you win a Heisman? No, man. I got robbed. That's bullshit. My freshman year, they robbed me, man. That's some bull. Yeah, yeah.

But I was told, though. They told me, you know, that the guys, the older guys, I think it was Billy Sims. He was up there in New York. He was like, hey, youngster. I think it was either that Friday or that Thursday. He was like, you had a hell of a season, but, season, but we're not going to give it to you, man. You're a freshman. I think you moved on pretty good.

You did all right. You became a seven-time Pro Bowler. You tore your ACL, comes back in three months, whatever, how many months, six months late in the season, rushes for 2,000 yards the next year. We all know Adrian Peterson, three-time leader in rushing for the league, future Hall of Famer. Thank you guys for coming and joining us, especially AP, because I know Z, this is going to be probably one of the highlights of your life, you guys being that underdog going in and winning in this huge game. AP, losing this game, that's got to be tough.

Thank you both for joining us. Hey, no problem. Thanks, man. I wanna know what comes to mind for both of you when you think of this game? What's the first thing that comes to mind? And for me, it's just heartbreak because that was my last college game

and my first game back in like three months. Collarbone. Yeah, because I broke my collarbone week six. And so to go out in that fashion and that type of game, it really just sucked because I knew that was it for me. You know? So that right there is what comes to mind. It's like it was a hard-fought game.

We were down, ended up scratching back, and to lose on the Statue of Liberty play, well, to lose, first off, on 14-18. Oof, hook and ladder. People forget that play, yeah. Yes, a hook and ladder. I'm sitting on the sideline like are you freaking serious and then um get into overtime and and to get hit with two-pointer version on the statue of liberty

yeah it was devastating and then for me i mean it's uh it's obviously the polar inverse to that so was a pinnacle of my athletic career. Like Sam mentioned, I ended my career in Canada. Had a few sniffs around the NFL with the Texans and then the Steelers. Got released from Pittsburgh in 08 when they won the Super Bowl with a shoulder injury. I wish I would have hung on and got on the IR for that year,

but decided not to. And when finished my college education and ended up in Canada, but man, that was, that was the pinnacle. That was a rollercoaster ride of about eight months, man. I mean, it was, it was, you know, I'm in, I'm in Hawaii getting ready for the hula bowl. I get a call. You're going to be the cover athlete on EA Sports. Go to camp and OTAs and getting ready for camp. Everything's going really well with the Texans. We go out to L.A. and win a couple of ESPYs. That game and the way that it ended, it was back and forth.

We came out and really hit these dudes in the mouth, and they were shocked. And AP, fortunately for us, coming off an injury. So, you know, we prepared for, you know, the best college football player, you know, the best running back, you know, in college football, but you don't really know, you know, how a person's going to come off of an injury. That's a big place still ap had some place thank god we didn't go a couple more overtimes because i mean he was starting to

get going he had one run in overtime and like no one wanted to touch him but he was just had that extra gear so um no it was great memories i mean it's a lot of those things happened that have led me to where I'm at today. So very, very appreciative and grateful for it. That's awesome. So, like, I got a question. AP, this is both of your perspectives. Being Oklahoma, going to the Fiesta Bowl, you guys didn't have your best year. You were hurt.

I know it was a BCS game, but it's still not the natty. You're playing a whack school. Whack conference school, not saying like whack. Like, were you guys fully up for this game, or did they catch you guys sleeping? I felt like they caught a lot of us sleeping um not me you know because i remember watching them on film and saying you know hey this is this is a good football team you know and um you just watch that season that they had you know they had some ballplay they had some ball

players you know on their squad and that team they were a lot bigger than a lot of people thought, you know. And so I remember during that week and leading up just reminding guys, like, hey, we can't take it easy on these guys. So they come in from the whack. Like, these guys can play some football. But, you know, there was definitely guys that kind of overlooked them, you know. So when they came out and put 14 on us really quick, you know, of course we contribute to that with, with, you know, turnover or not, but they, you know, took advantage of it and had us on our heels.

And then Z like going on the opposite side of the spectrum, all you guys, you have a month to prepare for this, right? It's like a month back in those days. Yeah. You have a month to prepare. Everyone doesn't think you should be in the same building. Did this just fuel your guys' fire? You guys had that sense of magic in this game. Like, is this a team of destiny for this? You know what?

That's a long time to prepare for an opponent, and you can overanalyze, and you can overthink stuff and overprepare. Our coaches did a great job of getting everybody ready um in 2000 and the five season we were ranked 14 preseason going into georgia who was 16 it was like the preseason uh kind of game of the year highly touted i went out and played extremely poorly in that game at a heat stroke. Like it didn't work out. We over-prepared for that game. So that was like the catalyst into 20 seniors who like, maybe said like, we had some dudes now we had like 12 guys get into camps. We had like off that team, we had three first rounders. I mean,

we had guys and we knew like it, it was our locker room who believed that we could play and and the culmination of years of of experience and playing together it didn't give a shit what anybody else thought or what anybody else said because all that really matters and you guys know this all that really matters is the belief and the structure inside of that locker room. And so that was the, you know, we did have a chip on our shoulder. We played with chips on our shoulder. I mean, we had a bunch of dudes that got overlooked.

We were playing in the whack, man. This would be a great time to throw an ad in for Tostitos again. We had a chip on our shoulder. Tostitos. Delicious. I got to know, Adrian, you've come back from injuries so many times in your career I mean injuries were like it hurts for me to think about so I can't imagine what was the decision making process for you to even play in this game uh you know um I had a long time to think about it you you know, and I had continued to work out as much as I could, you know, lower body wise.

Couldn't do anything upper body, but I came up with the decision that I was going to go ahead and declare, you know, in between that time. So it was a no brainer for me to try to get out there and play my last college game, you know, and try to help my team. And, you know, I felt like I was healthy enough to get out there and play my last college game, you know, and try to help my team. And, you know, I felt like I was healthy enough to get out there and play, and I did. You know, here's something funny, though. A lot of people don't know about that game. At the end of the first quarter, I think it was maybe like a minute, something ago, a minute or something ago before the half,

I mean before the first quarter we were trying to get into the end zone I think it was like it might have happened on first or second down it was a run to the left and I think Hall came in and maybe no it wasn't Hall

Alexander yeah yeah yeah yeah came and slammed me down on my left shoulder. And I found out maybe like two months later after that game, I was in Arizona working out at API. And I'm doing bench press and everything. And I'm just like, damn, man, you know, like this shoulder still kind of bothered me. So I went to get a checkup.

I had rebroke my collarbone. Oh, my God. It was on that play because i remember like falling on it i'm just like ah you know it kind of felt weird and you know continue to play play um or whatnot but i had rebroke it on that play that was a pretty final play like he hit you kind of up around the shoulder pads and you guys both like all the weight yeah yeah the crazy thing is ap played in seven games this year and he still had a thousand yards crazy miss injured i mean that's i mean you should hear julian complain about his hangover today you did this with a broken collarbone that's crazy

that was my year man boy you know without that, I think that was my year to kind of make up for that Heisman Trophy, you know? Do you ever get worried as a college player, like, this could do some long-term damage to my NFL hopes? I mean, because what we see these days, I mean, if you were a player this day and age, you probably wouldn't have played. Yeah, yeah. You know what

me personally my mentality i i would have got out there but yeah 99 of guys they're gonna sit it out you know but um you know i they knew about it you know i had the red flag coming out and going into the draft you know but uh you know thank god God Minnesota took a chance on me. It was like, hey, you know, we'll wait for it to heal. That's crazy. So the first half, Boise State jumps on you guys. They come out, open the game with the score. Then they get the fumble. They're up 21-10 at halftime so like everything that needed to happen for boise state to go into this

game and make you know let them know hey we could play happened halftime comes and that's usually where you see depths of teams come in i played in on schools a small school at kent state we would go in we we punched these big old schools in the mouth in the first half, and then you'd just run out of players and plays and this because there's so much depth on these bigger schools. What was the mood at halftime for Z? Were you guys like, hey, we're here now. They knew who we are now.

Yeah, man. We knew depth was going it was definitely a concern i mean we had like 25 guys that could really really play you know maybe approaching 30 and when you have that many guys you don't have two rotations of defensive fronts you don't have you know multiple sets of of dbs and and linebackers so no we knew uh you know we knew we're in for it we were in a great position uh we trained you know specifically to to start fast and finish strong you know like all the all the cliches that you hear about i'm sure you you were you know spoon fed or shovel fed those in new england you know finished strong um so and we knew like

hey we got to execute each play you're playing one of the best you know college football teams in the country uh you know one of the best programs of all time you got to execute and we really wanted to keep you know the ap off the field you know that so long sustained drives were important for us um but we knew like it was that was a confidence builder in the first half and we hit him on a on a come back and go and and uh things were clicking on offense we we were confident that we could play with anybody and just having that you know that sort of a first half gives the guys that haven't been there as long that confidence that they can go out and play to.

And for AP, you guys got to be looking at each other like, what the fuck's going on here? What are we doing? Let's go. Or what's going on? Yeah, man. How was the halftime? Yeah, halftime was a little rough for us.

It was a lot of guys kind of getting into it, you know, in the locker room. But we was able to kind of, you know, refocus, relock, you know, get locked back in. And we knew we had to come out the second half and shit, you know, put our best foot forward. You know, like these guys, you know, they came to play. And if you guys didn't know that, now you know.

So, you know, what are you going to do about it? So I felt like we came out and kind of not in all positions, responding well, because I think we had two, what, two, three turnovers in the second half. And it was plays that could have been avoided. But I feel like overall, that's when the game really got interesting in the second half. You know, Z, you guys did a great job executing the two-minute,

going into the half, you know, and, you know, creating the touchdown to kind of, you know, pad that lead a little bit, too. Great job by you two. Thanks, man. Gremlin and, you know, keeping that play alive, you know. But, yeah, coming out the second half, we knew we had to come out and hit these guys in the mouth and, you know, try to get back into this game.

And, you know, Jared, to go along with what Adrian's saying, you guys do cool off a little bit. The third quarter, you don't even get one first down. Are you feeling like, oh oh shit, we lost it? Or what are you thinking? No, not necessarily that we lost it. It was concerning for sure. I mean, you hit kind of a wall there a little bit

in regard to making the right changes. At halftime, things were going extremely well. They were kind of doing the things on defense that we thought that they were going to do um so there wasn't any like real big surprises there weren't any crazy exotic looks or blitzes i mean it was you know they were they were a quarters or cover two and long you know man thirds i mean it was it wasn't like you were seeing crazy looks so we saw and went against what we knew we were going to play against. And, and there wasn't many changes. They're like, there really weren't many changes at halftime.

And then they came out and started showing us a couple of different looks. And we just kind of, you know, you couldn't get that momentum going and you could feel it. You could feel it a little bit. And you see some guys like kind of trying to hold on and when you play that hold on that that not lose sort of game that's when this stuff starts to like move away from you a little bit and uh you know good better and different that's that's kind of the route that that game took there in the third quarter. And then Paul Thompson started to get going. And Iglesias and, you know, a couple of their receivers started to get going.

AP started to get some more touches. And then AP's backup. Alan Patrick? Patrick, yeah. I mean, he wasn't having a bad game either. So, you know, you could start to feel it. And you want to hit them with that big play. And it just like, you know, you just kind of banging your head against the wall there a little bit, not get going.

So you could feel it. I don't think there was a bunch of concern, but there were spots like on our sideline that you could feel guys. Okay, if we could just make it to the fourth quarter. Okay, if we could just get through the fourth quarter and we needed to, we needed to attack a little bit more that's kind of where that game started to trend yeah so you guys go back and forth somehow oklahoma they get back in this ball game punch you guys back in the face say hey little guys we're here We're not letting you guys run away with this But then Boise State comes back It's going back and forth The play that sticks out to me

And it sticks out to everyone We all talk about the Statue of Liberty play But the hook and ladder on the 4th and 18 Like what kind of Chris Peterson's known to be a big play guy what you guys had like 800 plays or something like we're like how how often did you guys work on this play i know we had a desperado situation every friday we would always go over these types of plays last play you know whatever i mean like did you guys have this thing in the back pocket all year so no no no we had the we

had the statue in the back pocket um because we in the back pocket because we knew that was a play. It was our Friday, our walkthrough. We had Big Band and Hail Mary and Circus. And the crazy thing is week nine of the season, we're in on the chalkboard and Coach P comes in. We're in the QB room he's like hey what do you guys think about this and it's it's freaking friday like we're just touching base we're gonna go walk you know walk the place what do you guys think about this and it was three by one set right

it's trips he goes what if we and we would used to run it to number two on the trip side the hook and then the ladder would come in to the blocker side. And he was like, man, there's just always so much. Like, why the hell are you thinking about this play right now and making a change? Like the guy was a genius for that alone. So he's like, we're going to throw it to the single receiver side because everybody's eyes are going to be over there. And the blocking is going to get congested he's like we're going to throw the hook to the single and then run number two on the ladder and we put that in week nine and that week that play was called circus because

it was a damn ringling brothers act man like you'd get to the hook and then the ladder would come the ball would like spray dudes would be like doing cartwheels you get to like three or four pitches the you know lineman would end up having it like that play never worked man ever so we get that call on the sideline and i'm like i look over and i i said look back like hey give it to me again and he said no sure shit circus like all right guys and man the looks in the huddle were like as if i called deuce right 22 zone like boom okay no one blinked an eye like no one asked hey what was it called like on one-on-one ready and everybody out like and that was the difference

man that was like the difference between being a good team and a great team and a great team that could play with pressure it was like the guys were just dialed in and i think there's a little bit of brainwashing i mean like you guys can execute any play you gotta call the play scientology perfect practice thursdays like we would practice all day thursday yeah and and i shit you not we had like two practices where a ball never touched i mean like professional shit ball never touched the ground a guy didn't take a wrong step we didn't have to replay a single play like and that was a lot of a lot of this and a lot of you know extra belief in yourself that you know i'm trying to instill in these kids now, man.

Like it's that, that makes more difference than, you know, outside of, you know, a guy like AP who's got tons of tons of talent, but he's a hard worker too. Like the hard work and that belief can overcome a lot. Right. So. It's like out of a movie. It's like out of the replacements or something. It's one of the things if you you see in real life and you're like that shit's not supposed to work in real life

that's like a movie play you know where you're like how does this work so i mean epic on a fourth down yeah on a play they put in the friday before that's exactly what that is a team that performs under pressure now ap they hit this hook and ladder for a tug yeah what is are you guys starting to say oh shit this team's a little team of destiny action going right now or what that's what it felt like to me because like you say not only do they complete the hook and ladder they score a touchdown on it you know 14 18 you know it's like even if the receiver who caught the ball if he would have dove for it i'm thinking he probably score a touchdown on it. You know, 14-18, you know, it's like, even if the receiver who caught the ball,

if he would have dove for it, I'm thinking he probably would have got the first down. And now we got to, you know, tighten back up and try to hold them. But they score a touchdown, you know. So it's just like, ah. You come from a mode of, okay, we've been playing from behind the entire game.

You know, now, you know, here we are, you know, with the league. And this happens. You know, now, you know, pretty much you're looking at it like, okay, now we've got to go into overtime. And, you know, we felt pretty good about, you know, going into overtime because we was like, okay, we should be able to outlast these guys you know uh i mean it's overtime session you know so uh unfortunately it didn't work out that way but you know you came out of the gate with a touchdown in overtime i mean you you did throw the first

punch in overtime at that point you got to be feeling pretty good yeah i felt really good you know took it to the left side was able to kind of tiptoe in the end zone, kick the field goal, and put our defense out there, you know. And, you know, we felt pretty good about those guys holding up and, you know, giving us another chance to get the ball if they score, but, you know, to hold them and keep them from scoring. Jeez. Sam, let me back up just one step and tell you a story.

So it's 2004, 2005, we played two really good schools in the bowl games, right? And it goes down, like all the way down to the wire. I remember. We lose 44-40 to Louisville. I throw a 50-yard Hail Mary. We get picked off. I'm on the stand getting the MVP after the game. People are happy.

I'm not happy. Team's disappointed. We went 11-0. We played Boston College and Matt Ryan at home the following year. It's 27-21. We're driving. I'm holding, holding, holding. I force a ball on a double move to our tight end, going in.

I throw an interception. We lose the game. I'm on the stand next to Matt tight end going in i throw an interception we lose the game i'm on the stand next to matt ryan i'm getting the offensive mvp getting booze which had a bad we didn't have a great year and that game ended you know not like we wanted to so before that drive that we go down to to you know complete the hook and ladder and going overtime i throw a pick on the left sideline. Yeah. Now, I got a question. Was that rolled?

And were you throwing the comeback? Because it looked like there was some kind of too high over there and it was miscommunication between you and the receiver. Yeah, so it was all goes. You know, three by one all go. And I throw to the field. And I thought I had seen quarters and this, the corner was pretty soft and the safety just back straight up. He didn't go here at all to the sideline.

So when I hitched and I, I like did a quick hitch and then a reset and threw on the reset and my receiver, Dyson James kind of like gave one of these, which was like an in-between breakdown. Okay, I'm going. And,

and, uh, he comes back or he goes and corners. They're sitting. So my mom is like, I've got 35 people in the stands. My mom gets up, goes to the bathroom.

Apparently she's like crying, feeling bad for her son. Right. And, uh, she misses the whole last drive. My cousin's got to go. up goes to the bathroom apparently she's like crying feeling bad for her son right and uh she misses the whole last drive my cousin's gotta go oh my god causeway to the bathroom like hey tana they're going to overtime that's hey sure i promise you this man when you do that pick i knew it was over i'm like this game is it's locked because you know the comeback and how everything just played out you know us scoring a touchdown again two-point conversion and then you know coming back and that miscommunication and just walking and him walking into the end zone

you know we knew at that point the game was over how brutal would it be if after Adrian scored the touchdown she's like that's it I'm going to the bathroom again. I can't see this. It's over. Yeah, we would have had a conversation for sure. But at least you left a minute to, I think, left on the clock for this drive. So you threw a pick, but you gave yourself a shot at least. Yeah, man.

We knew someday Matthew McConaughey, before he got too old, was going to be playing Jared Zebranski in a Disney movie or something. So we wanted 102 left. Now, you guys go in. You guys have your side of the ball. You guys get offense for the overtime rules. You start on the 25.

You drive down. You have that little wildcat play. Yeah. Who was the? Vin pareda so i went out on pareda to scoman to schumann yeah schumann yeah and schumann was a stud man played for like five or six years in nfl uh had a pretty big game to that point and vinnie pareda's freshman out of socal man Just surfer mentality. Like, yeah.

Like, the great thing was, like, he didn't know the capacity of the game and, like, what was really on the line. He was just out there like, bro, just give me the ball. I'll throw it. Right? So, I go out on motion, and before we break the huddle, like, we're on the sideline talking about it. I'm like, are you serious? You're going to give the ball to – like I loved the chance,

but you're going to give the ball to a freshman on fourth down and we're going to throw up a halfback pass? Are you kidding me? Like that's what I'm thinking. Like Coach P's like, no, no, no, it's going to work. It's going to work. Vinny just sells the run a little bit. And sure as shit.

Who knows? You guys score and you go to the huddle and it's like you guys didn't bat an eye you guys did you know you were gonna go for two if you guys scored going into this drive we did well no we didn't going into the drive but um you know we we knew we're gonna go for two if we scored they're late um and. And then something else that we go over and talk about it. Every time that we broke the huddle early with the receivers on hurry up, Rufus and the rest of the linebackers were, hey, they're throwing a bubble. Hey, they're throwing a bubble.

Watch the screen, watch the screen, watch the screen. So that was something we didn't have in that play. And on the sidelines, say, hey, let's break the huddle early. Get the receivers out there. There's linebackers that are giving a lot of attention. When we break the huddle early you know get the receivers out there there's linebackers are giving a lot of attention when we break the huddle early with the receivers we'll just add a little extra misdirection um you know got the ball on the left hash did that whole thing made sure my guys were lined up you know because right there you just the last thing that you want you've got to play that you know i mean we ran this play 50

times during the regular season in practice. And you all know, like, you want to play two or three times, scout teams like, oh, oh, there's a formation. Like, watch the bubble or watch statute. They never, ever once picked this play up. We were like, ooh, you know, this is really good. And another thing that changed for us, too, guys, was about week three, a kid named nick lomax whose dad was neil lomax the the cardinal big tall

dude out of oregon who started quarterback for the cardinals for a number of years well nick's messing around with the ball handling on the sideline during practice and he's like hey what if we did this with the ball like and he's showing coach p and coach p's like that's slick like z can you do that yeah absolutely let me try you know it was before it was just like pump with the ball and then you hand the ball off right but i don't think that's gonna work like that especially getting that sort of attention and misdirection so then there was it god always is at work and he had that planned like way, way back when. And I'm telling you, man, there was like so many things that went into that.

Like, I mean, beyond the hard work and the blood, sweat and tears and the five years of, you know, this, that, and the other that we could talk about. I'm sure all of us can talk about stories that we have that are great that, you know, these buildups, but there's like so many intricate things that you're like man if that one thing would have happened like none of that other stuff would have happened it's crazy you ever think that even if you like just if you just drop the ball like there's some the way you fake it looks like unnatural you know there's like if you watch the film closely i miss ian Ian Johnson's feet by this much. Like we damn near clipped feet as he's running by.

Like, I mean, legit, it was an inch, inch and a half that I miss his foot and he runs in because I hand it behind my back. And like my, my coaching tip is like, Hey, make sure he grabs the ball. Right. And he is, he's like like he's looking at it grabbing it and like he he goes and i start like basically like a re-drop i start dropping again and as i'm dropping my left foot or my right foot rather like like right over the top of his foot and it tripping him right there y'all oh yeah ap oh play you playing i mean

you've had an outstanding career college and pros like have you ever thought about this game and the butterfly effect it had on on your career or is this game just you erased it from your memory is it just a an erase game no it's definitely not erase you know uh it's what i think of think about it often and i talk about it often too you know it was just such a it was it was a competitive game and just back and forth and up and down and just you know, everything that has come from the game, you know, as well, kind of keeps it alive. You know, it was just that type of magical game and how it played out, you know, in their favor.

But, yeah, I talk about it often. My boy, Marcus Walker, actually, he coaches at Louisiana Tech now. He was just down here doing some recruiting. And, you know, I was talking to him about coming on you know with you guys and you know talking about the game and whatnot so he's like yeah man i was just talking to uh talking to some of my you know my players uh you know about the game and some of the lessons and stuff that was learned throughout that game you know so um it's a part So it's a part of my history, man. So I can't forget about it. You know, I would like to, but it was such a magical game.

And, you know, the David and Goliath theme they had, you know, to this game. And just based on my mentality and how I think it was meant to happen, man. You know, that game was meant to happen. A lot of guys just continue to fight and not giving up and having faith because I'm big on that myself, you know. So to be a part of that game, you know, even though I was one of the losers at the end, it was still a blessing. Jared, I got to ask you, you get back to Bo boise what's the party like are people going nuts

any memories of craziness yeah yeah i mean we had like a day or two later we had you know like the rally and the parade and you know ended up on the footsteps of the capitol building and man it was i mean, it's humbling to be a part of college football history and to come on shows like y'all's and to continue to talk about it and to be across the field from sure ballot,

you know, first ballot of Hall of Famer and to have those memories are just, you know, quintessential in my life and where I am today and being able to share those same stories with my kids and with the kids that I work with. But man, it was the single biggest event that Boise, Idaho has ever had. And Boise, Idaho has been the hottest real estate market for the past five years. It's one of the fastest growing cities.

It's like, if you look at 2005- Is that Boise bias? I've never heard that. Death tax. There's a big death tax in Idaho that people are going there for. Potatoes and college football. That's what Boise does. If you look at 2005 to now, there was less than 10% out-of-state tuition in 2005.

Now it's like 60%. You look at the growth pattern from like, you know, right before that game to now. It's, if you put a pin on one thing that's happened in Boise, Idaho's history, that was it. And it's, you know, people argue that the, you know, the Hail Mary and the band on the field, those games were better. And I'm sure AP would be like, yeah, those games were better. But for Boise, Idaho, that was the biggest college football game ever. You guys want to ask a question to each other?

Anything you want to know about one? No, man. I mean, he's just a Houston native. I'm a transplant, but I've been here since 07. I know we run around some of the same circles, but just a ton of respect for you, AP. Followed your contact cool we'll link up i'm on that side kind of often my mom lives out there she's out here spring well a little more towards conroe okay yeah so uh i'm out that way so we'll make that we'll make that happen but yeah a lot of respect for you too man like i said you know leading up into that game man i watched and i you And I was telling guys, hey, this quarterback is nice. They got some good players.

You need to make sure y'all be on your stuff. So I had a lot of respect for you. Appreciate that. And we had a proposal right after on TV. That's what I hate the most about this game. Yeah. proposal right after on tv that's that's what i hate the most about yeah other running back just getting getting engaged up on on field like what is this a this disney movie man i tell you what ap hey stab would think about this we we got like 20 seniors who are like wait what did you just do

like you made this about a proposal dude like what come on man let's go together apparently though so apparently they have a child i think they've got two or yeah they got a couple and he is a good enough dude uh just ill-timed i'm not big yet um but ray did it after not ray but uh korea did it after world series like no save it save another dude do it you got a bunch of dudes on your team that work their stinking tail off to have this event not your proposal bruh it's like i've seen worse i i've seen i mean look i'm a stand-up comic i've seen people propose at my shows in a strip mall and i'm like you could do better come on let's do a little better so that i've seen worse but yeah it's a it's a team moment why are you

doing that i'm with you yeah yeah so when i was in minnesota we end up um bringing in and johnson brought him in oh that's right yeah i got in his ass i'm like bro like you really propose to your girl he's just and i just had to take the moment to do that and it was just watching it irked me because it's like the look on his face he's just and i just had to take the moment to do that and it was just watching it irked me because it's like the look on his face he was just like he was just so happy and just like like that's love into the room it's like oh man i hope you i hope you uh haze the shit out of him yeah yeah i got a Got a little payback. But he's a beast. Like you said, man, he's a hell of a guy, man.

He was really cool. Great personality. I love the time that he was there. And getting to know that guy. He was cool. Yeah. Wow. That's awesome, man.

I appreciate you guys coming on here and explaining your perspective. I remember watching this game i was in college when this game was going playing at kent state and this was we didn't go to bowl games so i we had the time off i had plenty of time to watch this game uh but like this was one of the most memorable games i remember i remember in in my college career and in growing up around the game, like the fireworks it had, the hook and ladder. You have AP on the other side who was like the best. AP was God in college football and in the league.

Like it just had everything. And you guys were the two stars of this thing. And, you know, we're very grateful to have you guys come on Games with Names presented by Winbet. Thank you, fellas. You'll have an awesome package coming to you. We got to give a shout-out to Z's D1 training facility out there. Thank you.

He's taking over Houston. He's got a bunch of Boise and AP. Are you still playing AP i plan on it man god's willing you know playing on uh you know if i get that call you know then ap how old are you i made 37 in march jesus oh my god running back enjoy retirement you don't need to keep playing you're proving it all you know it's not proven. It's about the love and the passion of the game. Yeah, for sure. Plus, I'm not like Julian.

I don't have a championship. I don't get it. I'm a quitter. But you're an incredible player. Both you guys are incredible. Thank you so much for coming on. Great guests. Both great.

Thanks for having us. Thank you. And if AP plays again this next year, we should all meet up for his first game. We got to. We'll have to do that. That'd be cool. And AP better score some tutties. Well, AP clearly wasn't a fan of the engagement.

I don't think either of them were. That was weird. Z didn't like it either. I mean, AP, cool for him to come on. Is he our first loser? He's our first loser. Who knows the order we're going to put these out in, but he's maybe our first.

I mean, we had another loser book. We won't say his name, but he bailed. Kind of a loser move. Losers be losers. You know? Losers be losers. Let's go with the over-under number of times we say David Goliath. Wow, we did not hit that at all.

Under two. We hit the under. We were supposed to hit. AP said it. That's right. We didn't get it. I forgot about it. I was, yeah.

Jack, what do we got? If we count APs, we got three, but do we want to count that or not? I mean, we lose either way. Oh, we got three? Yeah, well, if you count AP mentioning it. Who said it? You and Sam said it once at the beginning, I think, when we were sort of setting the stage,

and then I think you slipped on in maybe mid, when we were contextualizing halftime. It was our first two-guessed thing, so our first two guests. So I got nervous. I got distracted. I got nervous. How many times did Jules mispronounce zabransky uh only once and we hit the under there too we were going for two you only mispronounced our guest's name what i mispronounced another guy's name though

applewood no that one applewood that that was a crazy like right before a huge game that they're about to play in i go in there i go thanks applewood for letting me in fucking team starts laughing amandola's making fun of me because he was there with me oh yeah derrick schumann schumann schumann so boise state becomes a household name consistently in the top 25 every year. Plenty of NFL players out of this program. Yeah. Boise State's like, they're a big-time school now somewhat. What are they in?

Are they in? What are they in now? What conference? They're now in the Mountain West. Mountain West? It's still not. Yeah. It's still.

That's a weird. Yeah. It's tough because they would. The thing is is with boise state they would always get like they would get good recruits they get the best recruits in their conference for sure paired along with good coaching and tough players like z yeah like you know that's you get that formula and then that's when good things happen but thank god they have the the college playoff now yeah they switched to a playoff system uh after complaints about the bcs about this because you get you get a 12 and 0 13 and 0 football team and then you know you get you get a you know 12 and 1 national champ and people are bitching bitching dude well uh jack do we forget anything

we're pretty good this episode um one correction sam bradford was a redshirt freshman that season and then uh put a little clarity on it boise state's football budget estimated around 14 million while oklahoma's is around 44 million wow yikes and then a little uh shine on sean springs we talked about the shower incident uh first round pick third overall out of ohio state had a 13 year nfl career so shout out to sean springs way better than the sandusky shower incident well jackie z must be on the tourism board or something because he was plugging it pretty hard. He loves him some Boise. He's probably a god there.

I mean, he has never paid for anything in Boise, I bet, after this game. I would hope not. I mean- After that play, you shouldn't have to. He should be the governor. Some of that great real estate. I've never heard the real estate. It's actually, it's blowing up right now.

There's like a big lake community in like a mountain life. I could see that, but I never knew that. Yeah. So it's like the next Montana kind of? It's kind of Montana-y. Interesting. A lot of people going there for some tax shit. I know a guy.

What do we name in this game? Statue of Liberty game? David beats Goliath? Eileen's Statue of Liberty? Gotta go Statue of Liberty. That was like, it's like one of the oldest plays in the history of the game. Like just gimmick,

like gadget type play that like you'd never think is gonna work. Yeah. And they threw in the two point conversion and went off of it. Remember that movie The Artist that won the Oscar? It was like a silent,

it's like a silent movie where you're like, still? This still works when the Oscar, it was like a silent, it's like a silent movie. We were like, still? This still works? That's what it felt like, you know? Who was in that? Was that with the- The French guy, what was his name? Yeah, I remember.

He was in Wolf of Wall Street too, you know who I'm talking about? Jean Douradin. That's a great pronunciation. Well done, Jay. John Goodman, that's a little easier. John Goodman, there we go. Let's score it score it

okay stakes are pretty high here yeah but it's not natty it's not natty it's not a natty so what are you going i'm going eight eight is fair eight is fair star power you had some really good players but i mean it wasn't it wasn't usc it's not USC. It's also not like Pat's Giant Super Bowl. Yeah, but if you look at that USC game, which was the next year when they had Vince Young, Reggie Bush, Matt Liner, two Heisman Trophy. That's star power. That's star power. For sure. These guys are studs, and this was a great game.

This is one of the most memorable games in college football history. That's where we reward gameplay, not star power. So star power, where do you go? and this was a great game. This is one of the most memorable games in college football history. That's where we reward game play, not star power. So star power, where do you go? I'm thinking probably. Seven-five? I'm thinking like maybe a seven. Seven. A seven. You're going, Kyler's going lower.

Okay, let's go six-five. Six-five? Is that disrespectful? Adrian Peterson. Yeah. All right. Gameplay. I'm going like 9'5 on this shit.

Is that crazy to go that high? The amount of crazy plays it had to work. I mean, the only reason I'm not going higher is because I don't want to fuck with if we get something crazy in here. But how do you not go at least 9'5 on this? I thought the game was over after the pick. Yeah.

Then they get his mom apparently. His own mother left. Left. He said, I would have sent her back if I knew she left and we would have, we scored on that. Oh my God. Grab the mom. Someone run, someone run in the bathroom,

preferably a woman. It's going to look weird if a dude runs in there, probably to grab her. But the name. It a good name statue of liberty i go i go eight or 8.5 probably i'd go 85 it was a good name yeah so what's that give us our total median of medium mean 8.125. Still kind of high. That's still high, huh? Well, it's a great game. It was a great game.

Gameplay is doing the heavy lifting here. That was, I mean, that was it, man. Oh, geez. Oh, well, that's all for this episode of Games with Names, presented by Winbet. Thank you so much again to our sponsors and to our listeners. Follow us on social media, at Games With Names, wherever you get everything. Sam Morrell here.

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