Games with Names - "Super Bowl LVI" with Andrew Whitworth | Rams vs. Bengals

Episode Date: March 19, 2024

Andrew Whitworth is in studio from the Wynn Las Vegas! We're talking Super Bowl LVI, Rams vs. Bengals. Andrew joins us in studio (4:10). We get into the Rams and Bengals rosters' (45:02). We get into this game (49:54). We score it (1:03:56). We go back to February of 2022 (1:09:40). We wrap it up by hitting the hotline (1:26:02). Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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hottest room in the whole entire building. Disgusting. Just big fellas in there just oozing. When you're a big fella, like your feet don't fit on the stairs. How big is your foot? I'm a 17. So you can't like, not much. Listen. Today we have an unbelievably legendary guest, Andrew Whitworth. We are talking Super

Bowl 56, the Rams versus the Bengals with the man who played on both teams. You know, it's a pretty good week for me. Andrew Whitworth. Walter Payton Man of the Year on Thursday. Check. Super Bowl Championship on Sunday. Check. And a walk-off right after the game with the kids. Like, hey, we're done.

That's it. No more. What a way to end it. This was the Rock Super Bowl. The Super Bowls come back to Los Angeles. Can you get off the field so we can kick the football off? I mean, what's going on right now? I just, hey, I'm trying to win a Super Bowl, Rock.

I'm glad you're in the middle of the field, but can we kick it, please? It really started from, unfortunately, you. You took the Super Bowl from me the first time. You jerk. After the game, I look up, see my wife and my son Michael sitting there. I flex both my arms up at him, kind of look up at him, and he's like. Yeah. You did that, by the way.

Just want you to know that. I'm sorry, buddy. All right. I'm sorry. But I'm not. Games with Names is presented by Wynn Las Vegas and Encore Boston Harbor and is a production of iHeartRadio. Welcome to Games with Names.

On today's episode, we are talking Super Bowl 56. The Rams versus the Bengals with the man who played on both teams, Andrew Whitworth. Future Hall of Famer. 16 year NFL vet. Absolute beast. Looks like a football player when you see him in person. Sure does. Just a stout man. Stout man. And of course a Super Bowl

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Seriously That's where I met him Where we met Did we get into that? Soho house right? Spoilers And also the secret to his longevity. Long career.

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With the ball on the one-yard line, Stafford drops back. He looks for Cooper Cup. This is Super Bowl 56. Hell yeah. Yeah, baby. Yeah. Welcome to Games with Names. Today we have an unbelievably tall, handsome, legendary guest, Andrew Whitworth. Thank you for joining us.

Thanks, man. I'm happy to be here, brother. This is Kyler. This is Jack. And today we are going to be looking at and talking about Super Bowl 56, the Rams versus the Bengals. Why'd you pick this game? You know, it's a pretty special game, to say the least, Jules. You know, it's a pretty good day, pretty good week for me. Yeah. I mean, you know, a Walter Payton Man of the Year on Thursday.

Check. Super Bowl championship on Sunday. Check, check. And a walk-off right after the game with the kids like hey we're done this has been cool we're out of here mate yeah off into the sunset baby that's it what a way to end it yeah dude uh you know really special i mean i think of it when i when i pick this game really though to me it's uh you know you you know this when you play for a long time every year when you get to that end of the season,

it's tough on you physically, mentally, everything. And when it doesn't end the right way, it's even worse. And then you've got to convince yourself you can go back through it again. And it really started from, unfortunately, you. You jerk. You took the Super Bowl from me the first time in 53, I guess that was. Yeah. Was it 53?

Yeah, 53. You know, I guess that was. Yeah. Is it 53? 53. You know, and that's where it started. It was people thought I was going to retire after that one. Yeah. I didn't really feel that way. But going into the game, you know how that is. Report every question I got asked was, you're going to retire after this? And it was like, no, I feel like I'm going to keep playing.

But I appreciate it. Yeah. But naturally, I was 38. So I get it, right? You know, my beard was almost all white. Not as much as it was now. But I lost that game, obviously, and I can remember after the game, I come up and I came over there and found you.

You were about to get ready to celebrate. The confetti's falling. I said, what's up? Congratulations. And then I take off to leave the field, dude. And I see, I knew where my family was sitting. I look up, see my wife, and my son Michael's sitting there in a lap. He's my footballer.

I got four kids, 12, 12, 11, and 9 now. Chaos. But he's sitting there in a lap. He's bawling, crying. And he's my footballer. And I look up at him, and I'm like, man, just as a dad, you're like, shoot. Now it's like I'm pissed, but I know I'm going to still play football. I know I'm not done.

And I'm like, how am I going this dude to like get this these tears out so any little kid right like a boy especially like flex your muscles at me buddy so I like I flex both my arms up at him kind of look up at him and smile I'm like put a smile on your face like you know mouthing it at him and uh he like best smile he could get right like seven eight years old just devastated and uh you did that by the way just want you to know that uh i'm sorry but it's okay michael michael uncle jules is sorry i'm sorry buddy all right i'm sorry but i'm not you guys are good you got one next year you can't you know you're good but you know it was cool because after that game we had to have a conversation and uh you know it was about you know things you get out to as opportunities to teach

your kids. Like, man, look, Mike, like, we're going to keep moving forward. We'll keep chasing. And, you know, to go through the next couple years, struggle a little bit, blow out my PCL and MCL in 2020, decide to still come back at 40 and play football, and to get the opportunity to go play against the team I played for for 11 years in the Super Bowl.

That's why I picked the game because it was an ending of your time in the league adversity you'd been through Always choosing to come back and say I'm gonna chase this thing one more time and when that final snap happened The first thing I did I went over and saw Zach Taylor and Joe Burrow gave him a little love and I turned to find My family and the greatest reward you can ever have, my son Michael standing at the front of the suite, both arms up, just all smile, flexing. Ear to ear.

Dude. So to me, it's like that Super Bowl is awesome, but like we know this in sports, man. Anytime you get a chance to kind of back up your own words and prove what you're about and especially to your own kid, it's just a moment. It makes me emotional every time I think about your own kid uh it's just a moment it makes me emotional every time i think about it you know and so uh it's just cool man it's it's a really special game for the super bowl but also for that opportunity as a father uh to show him what i was

about yeah he knows that now people don't realize we fit like everyone just thinks you get to the top and you go and win a Super Bowl. But the failures. Oh, man. The adversity. That's the real scar tissue that's built that calcifies you. And that's what makes you go on to be able to succeed. And, you know, I remember when we lost our Super Bowl in 2011 in Indianapolis against the Giants. I had that same – I mean, I was still a younger player,

so we were in different completely situations. I barely played. I was like a special teamer still. But getting to the top and getting to the last game and losing that game is almost the absolute worst thing you can possibly feel because you were so close you you were right there and all offseason you think about the one or two plays you could have done what what if i would the what ifs what if i would have just caught more five more balls at you know practice that week what if i you know this happened and to be able to go out and

and freaking actually go out and get it done after losing i mean that's that's that's that's big leagues that's big leagues man congrats that's awesome man i appreciate you coming on uh is this the greatest game of all time uh i mean that game yeah no chance no chance no at least we got a man with integrity here that's right that's right at least we got a man with integrity here, guys. That's right. At least we got a man with integrity. I mean, for me personally, yes. In general, no. No chance. But, I mean, it was.

I mean, you think about it. Like, for me, it was a movie script. I mean, you play for one team for 11 years. They tell you you're too old, basically. Like, they don't want to commit to you playing there anymore. And you end up with another team who hasn't had a winning record in 15 years and you end up in two super bowls losing one and winning one uh and and finishing against that team that told you that in the cincinnati bangles uh it was unbelievable for me against a bunch of lsu boys too over there

come on i even the time to let them know like it's still papa lsu right it's not the young guy's time yet all right it's still my time. You know what I mean? So that was fun. You know, it's great. I think Joe, like, you know, we have a good relationship. Obviously, the year I tore my PCL MCL is when he tore his ACL. So we both went to Dr. Eletrosh and got some time to be together.

But, you know, so we have a good relationship. But I think he's still kind of like, you know, like a little like, you know, kind of a little, he mad at me still. It's okay. But it is what it is. It's just like I was mad at you for a while you know hey there can only be one winner there can only be one i'll move on don't worry you know there's only one happy team at the end of every year there's only one happy team can you walk downstairs with that pcl now or what it's still yeah i'm good i'm great that was always the thing with the pcl walking down i tore my pcl in 07

and that's ultimately what led to me to retire because over the years, my knee started sagging back. You know how it is. Yeah. And then I wore out the medial part of my side. Well, you know, the ogre I am, I have a lot of other issues walking down the stairs. And it's that my feet don't fit on stairs.

So a lot of people don't realize this. When you're a big fella, like, your feet don't fit on the stairs. So I can't walk. I have to walk my feet sideways. How big is your foot? I'm a 17. So you can't like. Not much.

Listen. Again, I'll have to. If you guys can come to Thursday Night Football and check out Big Wit Little Mike, it's a segment I do. Anyways. No, speaking of that, man, you do killer work. You're working on amazon right now which has been it's been awesome for the league the whole streaming and i think you know watching you guys you know i'm working at fox watching you guys you guys are so good together we share a

teammate carissa thompson how has it been working on amazon now that you're you know you retire and you get into tv you're freaking killing it you have so many great insights and thoughts and how you speak on tv how you liking it it's been a blast i mean i think it's one of those things i love to share getting a chance to do it when i got in the nfl in 2006 you know i had the you know i had the honor of playing in three different decades of the league i played long enough that it's really unique. Like when you're in offensive line room, you walked in and I don't think a lot of people realize this as a draft, like as an offensive lineman, you walked in the first talk you'd have, it's like your own line coach is going

up there and be like, none of you guys get to talk to the media. You don't say a word. You don't speak about this room. You don't talk about our offense. Like if you're in an article, like, you know, you better have been forced to comment basically. And so you, you were kind of told avoid all of that. So the first half of my career, I'll never forget when Taylor, the one gets drafted. And I think this is so great. And I tell them this all the time. He goes his rookie year, he goes and works the combine the next year after his rookie year. And I remember just being like, Oh, Lyman around the league or texting me just like, man, who is this punk? Like it thinks he's allowed to talk?

Like, you can't talk about football. Like, you're an O-lineman. You're telling too much. You know? And so that was the nature of like our, you know, it really took a long time for a lot of veteran guys to be okay with O-lineman who like spoke to the media. And that was really what it was like. And so I came up kind of with that mentality. And then you start to kind of like, all right, it's cool. Like's cool like that's fine like we're just talking about a game that we play we

love and it's not that serious and so i think you really think of it a lot of those things have changed and now to have this opportunity as an offensive lineman to be on a prime time you know an analyst desk you talk about a game that i love that's meant so much to me is always say like i can't wait to celebrate guys in this game and so getting a chance to do this like this changed my life my kids life it's given me the opportunity to change other people's lives um so just that honor to me is what I think about every time I get to do it it's like celebrate a game that uh I think is you know we talked about the greatest game of all time the greatest sport of all time, the greatest sport of all time, the greatest competition of team, and the ability to go out

and make something bigger than yourself. Man, to celebrate that and what this whole entire thing is, it's really special to be a part of it. That's really what's on my mind every time I get on a desk and get a chance to talk about this game. One hundred percent. And, you know, you talk about how Lyman don't talk. Like, people don't realize.

The Hogs, you guys are the motherfuckers that get the wins. If the Hogs don't work together, the team ain't doing shit. And they're the most selfless people. I always, always connected with the linemen because I was a former quarterback. So I'd hang out with Logan Mankins. I'd hang out with all, you know, Wendell, and we were roommates. So they're a special group of guys that are selfless. They all hang out in one area of the locker room.

They don't want any attention. They always talk about their goddamn wives and their families. They're the biggest family men in the world. Stuff in their faces. They're protectors. Food all over the side of their mouth. They're sweating at all times. You go in there, there's sweat all over them sitting in the facility watching. Always. O-line room's hottest room in the whole entire building. Disgusting.

Just big fellas in there just oozing, you know? Oozing. I mean, that's the O-line room, right? And it's a brotherhood. It is. And it's special's special you think of this game it really is i mean that that line on both sides of the football is so unique and has a lot to do with teams that win every week and uh i think that's really the biggest honor being alignment and then also think about how unique the position is i would say this like think of how many positions in the world play with their back to the ball at all times in a game right i think they're really i it's the only position i know of yeah literally you are always playing with your back to the ball at all times in a game, right? I think they're really, it's the only position I know of. Literally, you are always playing with your back to the ball. Shields.

And so it's wild to think that it's a unique thing. And you look at it in this league right now, it's a huge topic of improving that play. And I think that's one of the things is that it is a challenging thing because it's not really something you would just normally think of when you think of athletics of having your back to the ball and not really knowing where the action is. And we've continued to eliminate their time to prepare.

And I think that's one of the biggest struggles there is in the league right now. That's one thing I've been talking about. You know, one of the biggest themes of the year, we were talking about with every goddamn team, offensive line, offensive line, offensive line. And I think it's a product of what the new CBA allows us to do in the off season. There's less padded practices and those big boys, that's where they get their reps and they need to, it's like, it's like choreography with these guys. You know,

they got to be able to pass guys off at, but it has to be a live rep. You can't, you can't simulate that, you know? So it's, it's been crazy to watch how they're going to adjust the o-line room and how they're gonna because there's always something they'll figure it out but getting back to you on tv i think you've done an awesome job of giving the viewer a perspective of what the lineman sees because what people don't realize linemen are like the smartest guys on the team like a lot of the the times the Joe Tooney's reading books, this, that they have to be able to defend the most athletic guys on the fucking

field. These D linemen that are absolutely monsters and they got to do it together. And they got, there's so much feel and they got to look at the lines and you know, you got the center who's calling out bare front, bare front. And everyone's got a signal and they're communicating it's been so cool to watch you on tv break that down for the viewer

because we haven't really like you said had that there hasn't been many old linemen out there that have done that um how great is carissa dude unbelievable she's a good point guard dude that's what people don't realize she's the point guard always she is and she can hoop yeah hey listen she can actually hoop for real like you know we've gotten a chance to uh spend a lot of time together obviously when you're a road team you know you guys are kind of a home team right you got a home team y'all are in the studio but when you're a road team you get to see everybody's messiness right like how you travel how you kind of live together you know all the ups and downs of just life right because you're spending 48 hours or more uh every week together and so uh we get a chance to bond a lot man she's so special i know how much she loves working with you guys and well she did say she liked

her crew better you know so there you go you know so uh i think she tells everybody i think carissa's wise enough and witty enough to tell us what we want to hear in the moment. So I think she's told both crews that she likes them better, if you might guess. But she's the best, man, honestly. It's been really cool to have somebody like that because you've got to think on our desk. We started year one. Not only is this streaming new and this whole entire platform new, but Ryan Fitzpatrick, myself, and Richard Sherman are coming straight off the field.

Never have done this before. And she's sitting up there with a desk, and Richard Sherman are coming straight off the field. Like, never have done this before. And she's sitting up there with a desk, and Tony Gonzalez is her only hope. Like, hey, I hope we can keep these guys together because they've never done this. And I'll never forget our first, like, show. One of the producers is like, hey, guys, if we have some dead time right here, y'all just banter. And we're like, you know, it's break. And somebody's like, hey, what's banter mean?

It's like, what does that mean? And she's like putting her hand, like, oh, my God. talk but oh cool all right yeah all right but it's like we have no idea what's going on right and no one teaches you that's what people know like nothing like hey cameras are yourselves guys yeah good luck i remember that was the first thing i started swim yeah that's what they say the first i go on inside the nfl i get out of tv for the first time i'm nervous as hell once that camera when when that red light's on you you can't you can't fool nobody nope you know what i mean and i was just sitting there so nervous like yo what do you got he goes hey just be you man

just be you i'm like all right thanks appreciate there's no playbook like i said it's throw them in there swim you know and and uh it is but she's been awesome and i think just her leadership man you can feel it every week like she has a plan and and she really like i thought the first year was awesome she would meet some of us down for coffee every time before we'd like leave the hotel just to kind of hey is there any way i can support you any way i can set you up better today is there any way that you'd really like to get in and out of things we talk about in a different way like it meant a lot to her so having her with us has been man i don't know if you could put a price tag or a value on what she's meant to all of us yeah did she give you a journal oh yeah i got a journal i thought i was special you're not that special she gives great gifts yeah she does very thoughtful gifts afterwards

yeah she's she's uh she's she won up it's good to good to have a girl on the set with a bunch of fucking animals. Just meatheads. Tighten us up. Tighten us up. There's no doubt. How'd you prepare to face this elite D defensive line or defensive end? What do you look at when you were watching a film when you were playing? Are you looking at scheme?

Are you looking at individuals? Break us down with that how your yeah i think it's you know i think it's interesting because now doing this um i get a chance to have such a broader lens of like things i'm looking at but when i played you know obviously my job you know i spent more of the week probably it my back half of my career on uh you know just the attitude the mentality the focus of the week of the young guys making sure they understood what was going on in my room and a lot of other rooms and even you know somewhat in my career towards the end I was older than every coach on the staff so it was like you know also mentoring those guys and kind of just being around I hate here's something I think we could do a little better have more emphasis on and that

kind of stuff so but when it came to tape really as a young player it was really about studying habitual movements i mean so for me i was a big um you know i grew up playing basketball i didn't play football really until high school and so i was always thinking of myself as i'm a power forward and somebody's trying to go dunk a basketball and how how do I keep my body in front of them? How would I prepare for the things they like to do? So I looked at pass rushers, whether it be a James Harrison or a Terrell Suggs or a Dwight Freeney early in my career. As it went on, the Von Millers and Khalil Max, and then now the Nick Boses and Miles Garretts.

I'm studying the pattern of how they really move, and I want to learn their steps and how their body moves and on what step they like to come off with certain moves and what's their go-to move oh man and how their hips and knees and like what what are little tails like is their hand really high on a spin do they does their inside lift does their outside go down you know do they carry their hands really low before they bull do they keep their hands high when they're going to hand like i'm studying all those movements to where my mentality was is it's you know you see at the combine they do this like drill where you like shadow a guy like kick your feet and try to keep up with them my mentality was i should be making

that step before you ever make it because i should know what you're going to do before you do it and so i would go out i remember derrick golf when i first got to the rams like being a young qb like you know jerry if you know jerry like just kind of numb nuts sometimes he's like just gonna sit over there what are you doing man you know and uh i would be out there like repping chandler jones's moves and he's like why are you doing challenges moves i'm like if i can do them and kind of have a feel for him then like while he's rushing me i kind of in my body even though you don't see me on tape doing that i'm kind of going through the motions of how he's moving while i'm taking my set to where i kind of know exactly when like oh he's gonna hit me yeah you know or oh he's gonna pull

away and so i pull away like so it's like i'm kind of studying and learning their moves and trying to move when they move and that's what that's what it's a dance baby it is you know it's very similar for a receiver when he's preparing against defensive you know db you know is his hand is his feet stagger when he's gonna against defensive you know db you know is his is his feet stagger when he's gonna give you an offhand jam it's all those little things that you you sit and you watch so you subconsciously digest it and you it allows you to react when you're playing yeah i think coop always told me this like it made me think of like him being the rusher like you know kind of being able to like what foot is it that that little has

he you know it's like it's not always off of two it's not always off of three like sometimes it's one more and then it's the same move to where in their minds they click oh it's this route and then i actually do it off of this step you know that type of stuff and they always thought of like man that's the guys that could get me or we're different like i've talked a lot of veteran tackles trent williams always because we always joke like when the guy comes off the bench that we don't know that's like a nightmare because i would rather face nick bosa every play than like wait who's this guy like who is this kid like is he fast is he slow is he powerful like those are the guys that actually made you nervous because i don't know his exact

pattern and that would scare me more than like a guy that at least I know what I'm going to get. Yeah. That's right there, folks. That's offensive line. 600 right there. Yeah. That's not 200. No, 300. That's class level. That's way up there.

Five, 600 class level right there. What does that even mean? Well, you know, like you go to college. Well, did you go to school? You didn't go to class in college. I went to Kent State. So 100, 200, 300. That's like your basic level classes.

This is like class level 500, 600, baby. Can't read, can't write, can't stay, baby. It's advanced. Yeah, here we go. Hey, I'm Gianna Pradente. And I'm Jimei Jackson-Gadsden. We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, a new podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. When you're just starting out in your career, you have a lot of questions,

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like if you put yourself across the line of scrimmage, how do you think defensive ends are looking at your tape? Like, what things are they cueing in on you, or how do they think they prepare against someone like you? Honestly, I think most of them just know that you're number 77. But no. But there's a couple guys that probably study more than that. I mean, AD is literally like, that's 73, you know,

and I'm going to annihilate this guy. But I think, like, probably when you're talking about the really elite guys, they're thinking of how they could maybe adjust things a little bit but the nature of what they do and i i you know i've gotten a chance the last two years to work with young rushers and stuff like that like last year you know it was publicized a lot that mike and i worked together for a week and it's those guys you got to remember they have to get to the quarterback and this is the other thing i teach young linemen that want to know i'm like you do realize it's their job to get to the quarterback and this is the other thing i teach young linemen that want to know i'm like you do realize it's their job to get to the quarterback not my job so as long as we can dance

and you want to dance fantastic show me a guy that's got a ton of moves that's awesome because i am going to just keep giving you nothing and you're going to keep doing moves and the ball's going to be gone and then you're going to tell me about how cool your move was and i'm going to be like great i get paid so that you don't hit that guy. I, other than that, like, great. You can have a lot of awesome moves and you can be like, oh man, I kind of got you at the end. Cool. So that's my thing is those guys, they have limited time to get there. So they kind of have their way, they rush. And so when you're talking to those guys, to me, I always tell them like, don't waste time, like attack, be violent, get to the quarterback. And then you got to just trust the moves you have.

As a tackle, though, on the other side of it, it's be patient. Be calm. Be under control. And really just be ready for the moment they actually attack. So it's two-sided, really. If you want to be really good at it, it's the two things. Like, for the one side, it's patience and stability and balance. And on the other side, it's attacking at all times with relentless effort uh and really a violent mentality to get to the quarterback and so

it's really to me that's the difference of the two positions is that they can watch tape but it's more just for them do you punch a lot or do you not punch a lot like me i never never ever stuck my arms out i mean um i looked at it like in basketball again i go back to this like if i'm reaching i'm dead, right? You reach, your feet stop, you're dead. It gives them leverage. So I'm never reaching, right? So the only time I'd ever reach is a guy who I knew was really terrible at speed.

He had no speed. Now I'll grab you. Because I know that, like, even if you got my hands, I'll be okay. Yeah. Sorry, I know this is turning into O-line 101. No, this is what we love. People love this. Love craft. We love the game. We go I know this is turning into O-line 101. No, this is what we love. People love this. Love craft.

We love the game. We go deep in this stuff. And it's just crazy because it's like watching a young receiver getting off the line of scrimmage. Like you were saying, these guys, oh, you know, got all these moves and stuff. It's the guys that don't cover the ground. They think they're being cute and stuff.

It's the guys that actually come and react off of your movement that are probably the tougher guys um you grew up in louisiana went to lsu did you grow up a saints fan i did not who'd you like north louisiana uh more north louisiana where i grew up they were the ain'ts ain't you were wearing paper bags you know to the games i think uh i was a cowboys fan so i'm actually closer to where i lived up we're closer to dallas than you are new orleans so um i grew up a cowboys fan always a cowboys fan you know um so i that was kind of my it was troy eggman emmett smith michael irvin those guys charles haley back in the day i mean you name it uh i grew up that and then also you know they asked me this question of the night honors like who my favorite you know growing up

I was really torn because I'm also a Niners Joe Montana fan because Sega Joe Montana football like that was my put my gloves on I put my receiver gloves on I'd sit in front of the tv and like I'm going after it right full gear like wristbands on Joe Montana football I'm going you know I've I haven't heard that game in so long I remember he had the he right? Full gear, like wristbands on, Joe Montana football, I'm going. I haven't heard that game in so long. I remember he had his little helmet on, like the prop on the cover. Oh, yeah. That was great. I was a Niners fan.

I hated the Cowboys. I hated the Cowboys. My dogs were named Dwight and Montana. We stopped becoming Niners fans once we got rid of Joe Montana. My dad loved Joe Montana. And, like, when he went to the Chief almost became we were basically Chiefs fans for two years you know it was it was crazy he was such larger than life that guy he was like God you were so you were you like Montana I was I like Montana and Aikman were my guys and uh you know it might have been because at that era we didn't even realize it but that's really all you watched

on TV were the Cowboys and the Niners and, you know, those kind of games. So that and then, you know, obviously I really wasn't one of those guys that, like, was a huge pro sports guy when I was growing up. See, it's the South probably. Yeah, I just didn't – you know, in North Louisiana, like, there's no pro team. So I didn't really pay attention to it at all. Like, I was a college guy.

Like, obviously being basketball, I was Duke basketball. I had sideburns when I was young when I first could get them. Cherokee Parks, baby. You know, that was my Christian Laettner, Grant Hill. That was my squad. So that was it, you know.

And then, you know, then I went on to college. And, you know, I played. We actually have a little bit of a connection. Yeah. Nick and Bill, baby. I mean, you know.

Nick Saban went to Kent State as well. Yeah. You know, and so, you know, when I was with LSU, Bill would come down and would come down and like watch our off seasons and stuff like that uh and spend a lot of time with nick obviously because of their relationship so we both kind of uh been ingrained very similar things that's for sure yeah what was the plan for like for nick saban was he well you know i got young nick so he was whoo he was uh was, you know, I think the best thing I could say is my very first time I was a rookie, I mean a freshman, we had a game, we had Monday morning, early morning film, five minutes late maybe, three minutes late, I don't know, I was really late getting across campus, and he would wait at the door to close it when the time would end. And he took those glasses off like he always does. And he lit me up into a way, like I was just like in tears the rest of the meeting

and I'll never forget it. And my wife to this day is so tired of me because I am 45 minutes early to everything. Like I'm fully dressed before I gotta be anywhere ready to go. So it was special because you realize really, I think Kyle Williams and I always say this, he's playing Buffalo forever. You know, we were high school rivals, college roommates, absolute stud.

And we would say this, when you played for him there, you always felt like as players, we have to go out and lose the game. Because from a preparation standpoint and, you know, what we're ready to do in this game from practicing, knowing what they do, all of that. Like, he's put you in a situation to win, and you have to go play bad to lose. And you really did feel that way every time you lost.

You're like, gosh, we let Nick down because we couldn't have had a better playbook to win the game. Yeah. And that's what you felt like. That's something I felt like I felt my whole career. There wasn't a game that we went into where you didn't feel like you should have won just because of the prep that you went through like Constantly going over situations that come up maybe once a year always being prepared for that one thing

Uh knowing your opponent putting the work in like and I think too like you know this with them, like I always was blown away. Like I feel like there's lots of coaches that work hard. And I'm not saying that, you know, they put in time, effort, all these things. But the intensity level and the focus level of like every detail, always locked in, never relaxed,

like never, ever letting off the gas a little bit i was always blown away in four years of being with nick like i never saw him ever pull off the gas at all he was always full intensity fully locked into every detail that mattered of every situation and every week i've just even to this day you know i told sean mcveigh this when i came in 2017 i got to spend like a month or two with him the first couple months there in signing and getting to know each other. I was like, dude, you are one of the closest I've ever seen because I've never seen it since I played for Nick.

And I'd imagined just seeing Bill when he would come visit that he was that way. Like I just never seen people that, not about working hard, but just that locked in all the time. It was really rare you know what it is it's those those guys they enjoy the grind of preparation some guys it's a it's a task it's it's like a it's like a chore it's like all right we're gonna those guys i tell the story all the time and like when i was like a second year in the league, I loved just being in the locker room.

I was still just amazed at being a Patriot. Yep. March, we'd be doing cold plunge, hot plunge. I'd be going back and forth, 10 o'clock at night. You know, I went to Kent State, so we used to have to pay for our Gatorade shakes. I was just so infatuated with having everything for free, you know? And so I used to hang out there, and I would go in the weight room 10 o'clock 11 o'clock backpack with gatorades huh we use

stuffing gatorades in the backpack 100 i was a rookie contract seventh rounder bubs come on buddy you should have saw my fridge at home i had everything that they had at the facility uh and you go there at 11 o'clock at night in March and you see Bill Belichick in the corner of the weight room on a treadmill with a freaking sweat vest on with a big-ass book going over the draft with film on. 11 o'clock in March. Just guys that enjoy, they enjoy the preparation process and they, like, it was like that every year like and they

already had three super bowls at that time you know when i got there and then when we won a super bowl it's like they work even harder because they know you become yep the target you become america's most wanted people talk about process versus results all this type stuff they are the process they are the process that is their result like to them when their losses actually generally actually don't matter they are in the process all the time so naturally the wins come and the results come because they never leave the process they are at all times gathering information like i always felt like even when i'm talking to nick i'm like is he evaluating what i'm saying? It's like I'm just trying to have a casual conversation with you, but I feel like you're, like, evaluating what mood or mentality I'm in

in this moment. I'm just trying to ask you how your day is going. Yeah. You know, but, like, they're that locked in all the time. They're computers. Dude. You know, and it's crazy. What so LSU played for Cincinnati, come over to L.A. Rams,

young hot shot, new coach, Sean McVay. Played L.A. Rams, young, hot shot, new coach, Sean McVay. Played him in college. Went to Miami, Ohio. Oh, that's cool. What was the culture like? You explained a little, but let's jump into that detail of what that culture was like coming from Cincinnati,

getting ready to become a Super Bowl team. What was that culture like? It was unique because I'd been 11 years in Cincy, you know, Coach Marvin Lewis the whole time. You know, obviously my first couple years in Cincinnati were rough. That was during the period of time when, you know, shoot, I think we had, you know, I don't know, over 10 guys, you know, that had arrests and different things going on my first two years in the league.

It was just, it was crazy. I mean, it was chaos, right? We used to have a formation called Bengal Formation. was a group there's four sets of formations you're breaking the rules or jailbreak or something it was it wasn't the f would move in each one of these things in in these formations so on you know brown he was all the way out on uh tiger he the f would be in the here and then on b Bengal, all the way in, we remembered it. Bengals are always in jail. They're always.

There you go. See, I knew it was something like that. I knew that's where you were going. But, no, that's the truth. And so then, you know, you play there. We actually had a great run, you know, there when Andy Dalton and A.J. Green and those guys were, shoot, we had five years. We're in the playoffs.

We're winning multiple division championships and just can't figure out a way to win in the playoffs. And then you go and it's like, hey, you're 36 years old. You're a free agent. The team's kind of telling you you can't play anymore. You feel like you can play a lot more. And here comes the Los Angeles Rams. They hire the youngest coach in history of the NFL, Sean McVay.

I had randomly, you know how these things just happen. Literally three years before that, Jay Gruden was trying to hire him to Cincinnati and I met him at the combine. And so Sean and I had met then kind of struck up a relationship. And so I'm no idiot. I mean, you know, I'm, it's, I'm a free agent. I'm on the PA and I'm like, Hey, listen, the combine's coming up in February. Like I'm going to the PA meetings. So at the PA meetings, you know, you see people at the Combine, uh, and you're just saying, Hey to everyone, you know, that type of deal. So I ran into those guys. I ran into a bunch of different coaches, you know, obviously you're going to be a free agent. And, uh, you know, I had conversation. It was like,

cool. Like Sean just got this job. I know him. Like, I hope this works out where there's an opportunity there. And they were, uh, moving Greg Robinson from the left tackle spot, so there was an op. And I signed there, and, you know, you join the youngest head coach, and here you are. I'm, you know, eight years older than this guy, and I'm the left tackle, the prized free agent at 36 years old with a white beard.

And so it was crazy because no left tackle ever. NFL history at 36, got like a premium free agency contract so it was a huge leap for the Los Angeles Rams to do something like that that had never been done um and it was a lot like honestly for me like the first year was a lot of pressure because it's like I am 36 I have no idea if my body's gonna hold up or not um but I got to be around and see him and it injected probably I mean it's probably the last five years of my career, the most energy, most enthusiasm, and just affection of loving the game that I've ever had my entire football career being around Sean McVay, because he's one of the rarest people I've ever

had the opportunity to be around from that focus level, but also the ability that who he is as a communicator and how you can articulate and bring juice every single week like when you walk out of his meetings you not only walk out like prepared for the game you walk out feeling like man you are king kong like he has just his ability to make you feel uh the most positive just infectious energy about your team and your group and it was awesome and to think a 30 year old head coach, I'll tell you this, you'll get this.

He's a 30 year old head coach. We're probably two weeks into OTAs, his first OTAs. And I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna go check on coach. Like I've been in there, like after the work,

you know, I go do my own deal, watch my own stuff, kind of, I'm mentoring young guys. I'm getting to know this young team. They're like, man,

who's this grandpa who's working with us, you know? And so I'm getting to know these guys and I'm like, I'm gonna who's this grandpa who's working with us? You know, and so I'm getting to know these guys, and I'm like, I'm going to go check on Sean. So I go knock on his office door. Hey, come in. Like, go in. It's 4.30 in the afternoon, you know, in late April.

And, you know, it's like he's, like, got something on the TV, like, I can't see. I'm like, what's going on on the screen? Like, what you doing in here? He turns his screen to me. He's watching our team meeting. He's like i go back and watch every single time i speak to you guys because i want to break down how i communicate

every single day the message and what it is that i meant to set out with an intent to make sure you guys walked out of the room and felt and if i can't feel it then i want to critique myself harder than i critique anybody else and if i'm the hardest on myself and every day I'm delivering a message that's consistent with what I want from you guys, then that's the best way for me to be a really good communicator. And I was like, wow. Wow. And not only that, we spent the first month talking about culture, communication, what verbal and visual communication looks like.

And it's like you're sitting in there and I'm like, wow, there's a 30-year-old head coach. We aren't talking about X's and O's every day. We are talking about how you be like a grown man in football. Like don't pout when you have a bad play, like show some juice, bring some energy back to the huddle and say, let's go be better the next nap. Like things where you're like, wow, this is like intangible stuff that actually matters. Right. And it's the glue. and it was really cool to see a young guy have really i mean the balls to do that because most people would think you're like the ownership's looking like you're young you're higher like you're teaching these guys the next thing i was like where's where's all the stuff that we're going to do that's going to hurt teams and they

don't really understand like no that's actually what's going to create a football team uh that's going to be really special so it's really honestly one of the greatest moments of my life and my football career. Those five years with him was really special. Yeah. I mean, I got to be a little fly on the wall with that relationship one night at the Soho house. Yeah, we have a good time.

We also knew how to have a good time. We partook in a few tequila shots. Yeah, I could definitely – it was always interesting to me because like you said with you were eight years older than him and to see the relationship between head coach and veteran player you in person it was something very different than i ever seen you know it was a completely different way and it's pretty cool to hear that kind of new wave coach, you know, and that's what it, and that's what every team's trying to strike. Now every, every team is trying to strike to get the next McVay,

the Shanahan's these guys that are these young guns, creative guys, but it's pretty cool to hear that, you know, yeah, they're brilliant with the X's and O's, but they're spending most of their time trying to develop the culture, trying to show guys what we are. Yep. And a lot of teams don't know what they are. Yep.

And that's why most teams are dog shit in the National Football League. There's like six, seven teams that are really vying for a Super Bowl every year. Yeah. I mean, like in Sean, I mean, think about this 30-year-old head coach. You think you come in with like, oh, man, this team's really struggled the last 15. Yeah, they won Super Bowls in the early 2000, but really 15 years. They haven't had a winning record. I mean, to come in and really have that mentality of we didn't even have a single rule.

We had one rule. It had it on the board in big words. We, not me. It's the only rule of the whole team. Wear whatever you want. Do whatever you want. But if it ain't a we decision, then it's not us. And so that was it. And that was how we ran our room and developed our culture

and it was really special and uh i'm glad that he had the year he had because i think it's probably one of the most you know to me impressive coaching seasons 100 he's had since he's been at the helm you know with one of the highest caps you know dead caps in the entire league one of the youngest teams in the entire nfl NFL to make the playoffs. I mean, what a season and I can't wait because they're,

they're, they got a chance this offseason. All the draft picks, the most money they've had since he's been the head coach, the most draft picks they've had since he's been

the head coach. It'll be interesting to see what they build. It's been an awesome relationship. Him, Les Snead, that whole operation, you know,

mortgage the future. They mortgaged the goddamn future for that Super Bowl, you know, and, him, Les Snead, that whole operation. You know, you mortgage the future. They mortgaged the goddamn future for that Super Bowl. You know, and people were thinking this year they were going to be a five-win team, four-win team, and go out and make the playoffs. Games with Names is brought to you by my friends at Wynn Las Vegas and Encore Boston Harbor. Wynn Las Vegas and Encore Boston Harbor

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All right, first we got to start off. This was Andrew's 16th season in the NFL. This was Cooper Cupp's big year, triple crown winner. Triple crown, stud. First in Steve Smith in 05, back when he had Jake DeLome slanging the rock to him. Jake DeLome, another Louisiana guy. We got to shout him out, baby.

Stafford's first season in LA. It was a banner year. Career high in TDs. Career high in completion percentage, and OBJ joins the team, week 10, baby. OBJ. What did that do to the locker room, Andrew? You know what?

It was awesome. I think that year really was one of the things to me that cemented really how special Sean is in the sense that you think of adding Von Miller, OBJ in that season. Guys who were established vets who played other places. And when they got there, it was so cool to see how refreshed they were to be like, whoa, like you just said, I've never seen anything like this.

Like this whole setup and y'all are all like having fun. Like what actually is going on? I remember OBJ being like, man, this is like gave me a whole new fresh breath of like wanting to play football. And it was really cool because we had a little lull in that season where we didn't play well. We had three game losing streak. We had just gotten everybody and we actually lost three games in a row when we'd gotten all these people on the team, Vaughn on the team and OBJ on the team. And then we kind of found ourselves. It took a little bit to kind of get to know each other

and like get a feel for the new locker room vibes. And we took off from there. You know, we lost one time in overtime to San Francisco from then on. And it led us to a Super Bowl. So it's something that is it was a rare, rare team and a really special moment for myself. But like I said, I think Sean McVay's story is still not finished. It's going to be special to watch this guy keep going because I've told him this multiple times. If he has the passion to coach for a long time, he'll be one of the best to ever do it.

I'm pretty confident in that. Yeah, that's the one thing that worries me, though. When you're a juice guy, a guy like that, can you sustain that? That's tough. That's what I think, honestly, one of the most impressive things about Pete Carroll. Yeah. Oh, my God.

It's unbelievable. Like, every time you think those guys are dead, that guy comes up with a way to get them to play. You're all of a sudden like, who in the world is this football team that we're playing? Because watching on tape, this is not how they played the last three weeks. No.

And then he can get them to just play at a level that's out of this world. But, you know, that's the thing. I think it will be a struggle. Plus, I think in the new age that we live in, media and the opportunities everywhere, like these coaches coaches they didn't have all those things back in the 80s and 90s and 2000 like with bill there wasn't somebody beating his door every day for tons of money to go do whatever else right so i think it is unique now trying to be a head coach

and do it for a really long time there's a lot of other options and i think that is different for this new young wave of coaches as well. So many different avenues of keeping your itch for football nowadays with the media, the social media. As it keeps growing, I mean, this game is insane, and how it's growing is insane, and they have lots of opportunities to do a lot of ways to be a part of it. Jackie, break down these Bengals. These 2021 Bengals, 10-7, coming off a 4-11 season,

Joe Burrow's second season in the league um we're in the zach taylor era we talked about the marv lewis era earlier this is the third year under zach taylor jamar chase's rookie season what a rookie season it was oh my god higgins i mean they had they had the guys um you gotta remember too zach taylor was with us in the super bowl we lost to you guys. So he actually got that job during the—he interviewed for that job during the bye week of going to the Super Bowl. So he actually got that job during that time. So it was, like I said, it was a pretty crazy script to end it the way it all ended. Can you say during one more time?

During. From the South, man. It's endearing the way you say during that's right during and we got to give a shout out to aj green here this is the first time the bangles started a year without aj green since 2010 jesus i mean that guy was a mainstream baby mainstay baby uh and they won the afc north for the first time since 2015 i mean this was an electric year just tells you one thing quarterbacks everything yeah we'd be uh stafford was out of his mind i mean he was out of mind out of his mind this season too but in that year he was uh he was different you could tell that uh he was refreshed

and felt believed in and i mean think about all those years he had in detroit and just uh you know felt like he's fighting for his life every week and And then to come to a place, I'm sure, where you meet Sean McVay and you realize, oh, man, you mean you're going to tell me, like, I kind of feel like I have the advantage when I walk into a game every week. I think you saw that in him and it was fun. And I hope he keeps going, man. I know he's been, you know, he's had some injuries. Obviously, he got beat up pretty good.

And what a tough sucker he is. But, man, I hope he keeps going because he's a special one. And I'd love to see him have a couple more years, him and sean together uh they could do a lot of great things he's a freaking stud jackie what's the game lead up to this thing andrew mentioned this earlier the rams got hot one five of six to finish regular season the bangles not so hot three and three to finish it off both teams with the four seeds as you remember joe burrow went in and slayed Mahomes at Arrowhead. Gave us the phrase Burrowhead. Burrowhead.

Pretty good one. Pretty good one. Bengals' first Super Bowl appearance since 89, back in the Icky Woods days. Who'd they lose to? Them Niners. The Niners, baby. Let's go. Come on.

Come on, Bob. That was actually my Super Bowl prediction this year, and unfortunately, Joe Burrow got hurt. But I went Niners, Bengals. I wanted the rematch. I thought we were going to get the rematch. Yeah. And gonna get the rematch yeah and this was the ram's second super bowl appearance in three years as we mentioned earlier so they had that that bad taste in their mouth still so what do you remember the game leading up to this thing are you guys nervous in la

you guys what did you have like the weirdest week ever did you have a template because you guys were there a couple years you would think but it ended up being a home game. Yeah. And then the league actually, which I, you know, it's like one of those things for me. Hey, listen, it worked out perfectly. I have no complaints. For the young guys, I feel bad that we're on that team

that never been to a Super Bowl. Because when we went to Atlanta and play, you guys, you get the allness. You're on the road. Like, we're in a hotel. We're busting the media days. You see all the security. You guys stayed at home.

We stayed in our facility and practiced and stayed in our houses. hotel we're busting the media days you see all the security you guys stayed at home we stayed in our facility and practiced and stayed in our houses like literally bust i didn't think about that we literally went to the game like it was a home game and and like hey the night before stayed in a hotel by the stadium and just rode over to the game and so it was the weirdest week we even did they even allowed us to do our media at our facility so we didn't even have a media day oh wow so it was a weird weird week it felt like a you know late december game that you're just at home and obviously in cali you know you have the great weather so just it didn't even feel like you're

playing in the super bowl yeah it's very strange uh compared to going to atlanta almost could be taken as an advantage though for a young guy because there was less distractions for sure i just mean like i hate it for them that they didn't experience, like, the allness of what a Super Bowl feels like, right? And that's what I remember the most. And then, you know, really of the game, I just remember it felt like every five seconds I turned around, we lost an offensive player. Like, wait, who's out?

You know, like, you're on the sideline. You know how it is. Like, wait, you're going to get in the huddle, and you're like, wait, where's our tight end? You're like, oh, wait, where's the receiver? It was just constant the entire game we were losing guys did you guys get to use your same locker room that game yeah oh heck yeah everything was the same that isn't wild yeah it was wild oh my god should we uh bounce through this game real quick bounce through as andrew

mentioned earlier i mean obj falls out scores first gets the rams up then gets hurt right before halftime. Like, he's going for it. He was a Super Bowl MVP. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he was balling. Stafford throws a pick late in the second quarter, right around then. The Rams are up 13-10 at the half. Then, oh, got to rewind a little bit. This was the Rock Super Bowl. Yeah.

The Rock gets out. Opened it. What was, like, for a while? Can you get off the field so we can kick the football off? I mean, what's going on right now? I just, I'm right there. Like,

Hey, I'm trying to win a Superbowl rock. I'm glad you're in the middle of the field, but can we kick it please? I wonder if he's going to do that for every single game. You got it. He should. One of the wildest openings.

We were rewatching that last night. It was insane. Yeah. Golly. Um, so as we mentioned, the halftime score, 13,

10 Rams are leading. Then at halftime, we got Snoop out there with Dr. Dre. Kick Fierstens on the field. Could you imagine that? Do you know what Bill and Nick would do in that situation? They would have been cut. Yeah, the punter would have kicked the rest of the game. We're going for two the rest of the game.

People would be like, why would you possibly do that? They don't care. No, those guys. He's gone. No one would even think about doing that. You're right, Mike. i remember seeing this live i'm sitting there like is that the is that kick fearson now i will say at halftime it was one of the hardest parts because you know how long those are uh to like try to listen to the coaches and you're like dang that's eminem and snoop out there like it's like you're kind of kind of listening a little bit like i don't know what sean just said but

y'all fill me in in a minute because that was a sick halftime show legendary la with those guys oh my god and then so we come back for the second half bangles start out hot 75 yard td bomb burrow to chase uh this puts the bangles up all second half until a minute 23 left when stafford finds cup in the back of the end zone a little bit of a punt fest there in the second half for a while. Take the lead. Von Miller, Aaron Donald, ball out relentless. Sacked Joe Burrow seven times. Seven times.

Insane. He was getting sacked all year, though. It was impressive for them to make the damn Super Bowl with how much he got hit. Super Bowl record. Then Joe gets out there. They get out to midfield. We were looking at this one earlier fourth and one they're throwing it bring the blitz take him down that's

it eric weddle baby eric weddle jumped in the window or work to his left weddle jumps in the window and he tried to get back and it was too late aaron donald baby man what a special guy that was people forget we added him to start the playoffs he comes two years sitting out he's in his big truck you know he calls me on the phone like i miss a call from him i call him back i'm like dude what's going on i'm coming to join the team baby like what he's like yeah yeah you know they signed me i'm coming up like i i was like you've been working out it's like man i run sometimes after i coach the Like, so I've been running some striders. Joins the team, makes the run, plays all the snaps, you know, whatever, the whole entire playoffs.

And a lot of people realize this, tears his pet completely. At the beginning of the game, never comes out, plays the rest of the game, can't even use one of his arms. And you can see him tackling with one arm. I remember that. That's some Rodney Harrison stuff right there. And the thing is, too, he wasn't some pop. Like, he shredded it so bad. He had surgery.

It was an eight-month recovery. Oh, my God. He couldn't play golf. He couldn't do anything. He had basically was like hamburger meat. He had shredded his pec so bad. And they had to sew it back together. And he basically, for eight months, couldn't do anything with his arm.

And I don't think he would trade it for a second. But really, really special. And then that game, too, is wild. Like, you think of what happened to him. Tyler Higby, you know, gets hurt in the NFC Championship. He's out. The next tight end, he gets hurt. And then you have Bryson Hopkins, who hasn't played hardly a snap the whole season,

who's now your starting tight end during this game. Next man up. You lose Odell. Benny Skronic, who's a special teamer, all of a sudden now he's starting. He's a starting receiver. So you're walking in the huddle and you're like, whoa, what is going on right now? Can we just keep a couple guys healthy where we can go win this game?

That drive, though, with Stafford and Kup, man, unfreaking believable. You find your guy, they meet every morning at 5 a.m. on Wednesdays, and it came to life right there. Talking about process over results, baby. Now, how was Matt right before that drive? What was his temper like? First thing I'm going to do,

not that you're scared of Matthew, he's real sensitive about Matt. Really? Can we call him Matthew? We've thrown a couple times. He's like McConaughey. McConaughey is the same way here. I'm serious about Matthew.

Kelly's going to post on Insta about you.'m just telling you i like to come kelly's gonna get you on insta if you don't you gotta call him matthew i'm sorry matthew okay matthew it's very serious uh but still dude honestly how was maddie before that thing hey if you're like me i'm calling matt the rest of the day no uh anyway so, so, no, you know what's wild? Like, when people talk about the game, right? Like, that's the things I actually remember. It's like him walking in the huddle. So, you know, if people don't realize this,

the quarterback's always on the side of the team. So, you know, he's communicating with the coach, all those things. So, obviously, our sideline is away from me being the left tackle. And so, Matthew's over on that side. And so, we're looking dead into each other. Every time he's getting the call from Sean, I can kind of see sean in the background making the calls and i see matthew like looking up at us and i never him getting in the huddle and he's like hey man let's let's go do something special right here you know and there was just a look in his eye like i always said this like matthew to me is like john wayne like he just

does like he's like this cowboy bad dude in the sense of he's not a cowboy type guy, but he's just a tough, never hurt, never says a word. Like it's hit. You can literally like, oh, like nothing. Won't say a word, like not blaming anybody. Never tell you a thing. Like they're draining his knee, his hip, whatever. Like he doesn't care.

Like the dude's just tough and that's who he is. And so you're just like in the huddle. It's like, let's go do something special, boys. You know, it's like, yes, sir. You know, like nobody's touching you. Think of a necessary roughness, if you will, the movie. Like nobody's going to touch you. You know, like that's literally how you felt with Matthew Stafford in the huddle.

And, you know, that drive, obviously him and Cub, really special. And every play, you know, it's like that, you know, I look on the screen, it's like, man, 15 play drive. Gosh, it felt like four months. You know, it literally like that, you know, I look on the screen, it's like, man, 15 play draft, gosh, it felt like four months, you know, it literally like every, you're like, oh, we found a first down, oh, we found a first down, let's keep going, let's keep going, let's keep going, so it was a wild, wild deal, but I think really special, you know, you always think those things end the way they end, to have those two guys, the relationship they form, the bond and commitment they made to meet every single morning, we also that that season had what we call the breakfast club, me, Stafford and cup. And

our wives would meet every single Tuesday morning for breakfast, that whole entire season, uh, at Soho and, uh, Soho, Soho and Malibu. We met every week. They'd have it like they were all ready for us every Tuesday morning. Uh, and it really became a great bonding experience for us. And we even did it the week of the Super Bowl. And the roughest one was the Tuesday after the Super Bowl when none of us have slept at all. But it was like, hey, let's have one more. And we met that morning.

And it was like, dude, what a journey this whole year. We won a Super Bowl. Now here we are sitting here having breakfast again. It was a special year. You know what? And that last drive pretty much summed up that team 15 plays you know executing and gotta have it situations key third downs your go-to players making go-to plays one of the best no looks ever if not the i mean he invented it you know patrick said this

like i know people but like mahomes has actually said, like, I grew up watching Stafford, like, throw the, like, he is the, I know nobody, like, talks about that much, but, like, he is the guy who, like, was doing that for a long time. Well, Joe used to do it a little bit. Yeah. A little flat. A little flat. But, you know.

He kind of took it a little crazy a couple times a year. Because he would go across the damn middle. No one does that. He'll look across the middle. It's kind of like, what the fuck is this guy doing? It would be dialed right there. But to get back, you know, you guys got banged up. No sniveling.

And that's what a heart of a champion really is. You know, next man up. You're not going to sit and worry about things you can't control. And there was no better way to probably win a Super Bowl than having your offense on the field, going out, having a long methodical drive. And, you know, I remember watching that. I was so happy for you just because, you know,

we had a little relationship. And I was so happy for Matthew. I won't call him Matt. Just because of the career he had and the amount of losing he's been to. And then all of a sudden, one year come out, win it with the Rams. It was just a spectacular thing to watch.

It was a great story. And like we were just talking, I mean, even right now, like it's still, the story's still going for him and in cup so um any after parties that was any any good stories for the after parties who who performed at your after party uh you know uh we actually you know i'm too old for all that you know so i wanted to do my own deal so we we actually uh me stafford and cup and a couple others kind of went together and did stuff with uh h wood kind of set up a deal for us at, uh, Harriet's and West Hollywood and our families and stuff. So we had a deal there, uh, you know, a no sleeper, obviously, I think some people ended up

at like Drake's house somewhere. I don't know. I ended up, uh, agreeing at some point in the night, way too excited to do good morning, uh, America and like, uh, today's show and a bunch of stuff. So I literally had like trucks sitting at my house when I got like 5. AM in the morning, got there, they're waiting on me. I got in there, did that. I'm getting like, going to go back in the house. Like, I think I'm going to sleep. And then I get a call and it's like, Hey, Ellen wants you on today.

And I was like, let's do it. Like, all right, well it's 8. AM I'm, you know, hammered. I go to sleep right now. I don't think i'm making it to ellen at noon so let's just keep rolling so we just kept it rolling and uh i went to ellen and somehow i didn't get myself completely canceled or ruined from going on there with no sleep and uh still you know pretty intoxicated so then after that i passed out you know we had breakfast club

tuesday the parade that afternoon. And then, you know what? What's wild? We actually came right here to the win. We spent way too long. We got a little excited. You know, a bunch of parents. Coop and Anna and Kelly and Matthew and myself and my wife, Melissa,

decided to take up the win on an offer to come have an epic week. And so we spent five days here. Five days. I didn't come back to Vegas. I think that's the most impressive thing I've heard about this whole goddamn Super Bowl. Five days in Vegas. I didn't come back to Vegas for like a year. Because I was like, I don't ever want to see anything in Vegas for a long time.

So it was five days. It ended with going to a Chainsmokers concert at like 2 a.m. at XS. Standard. Oh, man. And I think it was one of those flights home where the six of us, I don't think anybody said a word to each other. Like, there was no talk going home. Everyone got in their car. Like, no bye hardly at all. Like, you know, just we'll see you when we see you. We'll never talk about this again. We were done. We ate too much, drank too much, and slept zero. So it was a wild week, that's for sure. Man,

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What's the name of this game, Whit? We got to name this game. This one's for Whit. This one's for Whit. The Rams house game. We not me game. I think the we not me game. We not me game.

Let's do it. All right, let's score the game presented by Wynn. Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it. Stakes 1ynn. Is this the greatest game of all time? Let's score it. Stakes 1 to 10. Decimals okay. Here's what I'm going to probably say. I'm going to go 7.7.

7.7. There. I like that. This is a man of integrity. Pro score. Pro score. Pro score. Pro score.

Star power. Ooh. Teams. There's a lot of stars there. I'm going to go. Honestly, with the halftime show and everything, I'm going to put 10. Star power. Just be well. Teams, crowd. There's a lot of stars there. I'm going to go, honestly, with the halftime show and everything, I'm going to put 10 star power. Just be honest.

Big one. Big one. I mean, a bunch of Hall of Famers on that damn field, too. Yep. Gameplay. Ooh. You know, I thought kind of second half was a little of a bore for a while there. So I think if I had to do a gameplay on this one.

Also, the penalty at the end kind of like takes a little of the shine off yeah yeah yeah or the penalty to start the half but you know we can have that conversation if you want anyways Figgins pulled Jalen Ramsey down by a space mask anyway so let's go penalty for penalty

we want to do that I'm going to go 7.7 again 7.7 this is going to be a Gron'm going to go 7.7 again. 7.7? Yeah. This is a Gronk. This is going to be a Gronk-style score. I wonder why we're going 7.7. Yeah, baby.

Fetching up. The name of the game. Ooh. You know? We, not me game. Well, I think because it was the slogan that Sean McVay started when he took over the regime and lived it through because you had a lot of guys have to play in the game

with everybody being injured. It wasn't one of these games where you had all the stars healthy going toe-to-toe. And the Bengals really had kind of a bad finish and just got on fire. You had to stop that momentum. I call a we-not-me game a nine. Nine. Love it.

We-not-me game. The back-end Bengals, that's what I always call them. They always start off slow and end up back end of the... 8.6. Where does it go? Where does it rank in the games that we've done, Kyler? This is right between the 2010 AFC Divisional Round game, the can't wait game,

and the Bush game where Reggie went crazy. No, no, no. Different one. Oh, in Bush game. Where he ran for 513 yards against Fresno. Oh, yeah. You're right. Right between those two.

Yeah. So did you catch on any of the method of my numbering? No. I knew the 7.7. Let's look behind you. Can you? I got the 7.7. Can you explain it?

Can you explain the other two? The two nines? Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. Can I call you Andy? Hold on. There's some real numerology here.

Yeah, that's worse than math. Ten and nine. Ten and nine. I don't know who ten and nine are. Anyways. Who's ten and nine? Do you know? Oh, Matthew's covered. Cooper's covered. Come on, guys.

It's not hard. The trifecta, baby. The win trip. If you were at Rob Gronkowski's level. It's the win bet trip. I mean, I know what branding is. It's the win bet trip. I mean, I know what branding is. It's the win bet trip. The win brought us here.

Cooper, Matthew, and Big Whip, baby. Now, if you were on Rob Gronkowski's level, you'd be able to do this math in your head. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Is Gronk a big math guy? Oh, my God. He's a math magician.

He's like John Nash. He really is. I like that. I like to know that about him. Gronk's a big numbers guy. Okay. All right. Andrew.

You want to add anything to this? Anything to miss? No, man. I appreciate the opportunity, brother. Dude, you got- right. Andrew, you want to add anything to this? Anything to miss? No, man. I appreciate the opportunity, brother. Keep killing it. You want to plug anything? I'm not a plugger. You're not a plugger.

Not a soaker, a plugger, anything. I just hang out, man. It's good to know. It's good to know. Hey, man, I appreciate you coming. I've enjoyed our friendship over the years. Even though we see each other rarely, but the times that we've seen each other. It's always good, brother.

It's always been great. I'm a super big fan of what you've been doing on Amazon. You as well, man. Keep trucking, bro. Let's go, baby. O-line perspective. The road team and the home team. Road team and the home team.

Well, that was a good episode. Oh, my God. Whit, what a guy. He's a leader. Leader. He was even protecting Matthew After like

Been retired for years Yeah it's Matthew It's Matthew It's Matthew We eat breakfast Every Tuesday at 7am Soho house I didn't know the wives

Were Yeah I didn't know the wives Were part of it So LA though It is It's very LA Going from Cincinnati Having breakfast time

At Skyline Chili To freaking Having breakfast time at Skyline Chili to freaking having breakfast time with your wives at Soho Malibu like you think it was Malibu he said it I'm also gonna

since he's not here and he can't beat me up mister I'm from Louisiana down in the bayou only drinks Perrier now remember he said only he said he only drinks sparkling water he said it's because he down in the bayou. Only drinks Perrier now. Remember he was telling us that? He said only? He said he only drinks sparkling water now. He said it's because he's from the bayou and all they drink is Coke. And he has such a Coke fix.

He needs that water with a little something. He needs the spicy water. Lyman liked that shit, man. I know. They got to avoid calories. Dude, his deep cut on being an offensive lineman and like, oh. That's why he's so good. That's why he was great.

He was great. He's a Hall of Famer. Big guy. Great guy. And he gave us some good Sean McVay nuggets. That was awesome. Yeah. It's pretty cool to see that because he's eight years older than everyone,

they brought him in out of his experience. And he's a big part of the the success of the la rams why the la rams of the la rams now oh for sure locker room guy culture guy i mean once once they lost him on the o-line you know people were talking like this ain't yeah he may be 40 but he runs shop there and you know because of he, the knowledge he gave to a lot of the young players, you could see that it's translating with this newer team. Seriously. And that longevity.

I mean, he was playing at LSU when Saban was there. Yeah. Then he was just playing in a Superbowl in 2022. Like that's crazy. Great on TV too. Great on TV, man.

He can do it all. Dude. No one rocks a sweater underneath a jacket, like a hoodie underneath a jacket. Yeah. Good bald head pulls off the bald head. Bring that up. Like a hoodie underneath a jacket. Yeah. Good bald head. Pulls off the bald head. I'd rather bring that up.

Let's go back to February 2022. Number one movie, Uncharted. Uncharted. Great video game. Great video game. Movie, kind of forgettable. Unwatchable, as Kylo would say. Wasn't it a little...

Got him. Is it Walbert? A little Tom Holland. A little Walbert. Tom Holland. And Tom Holland. The guy from Outer Banks, the other kid. Yeah, I don't know.

I liked that. I liked it. I don't even know if I saw it. We also don't need to do too much of a deep cut. This was two years ago. That's true. If you don't remember this. Back in that day.

Take some ginseng. Back in my day. We don't talk about Bruno. I remember that like it was two years ago. We used to listen to this in the car rides. This is a Lily favorite. We don't talk about Bruno. We don't talk about Bruno.

You know that song? Big one. Big movie. Not even a kids movie guy and I know it. Yeah. Around this time, Apple became a trillion dollar company. Three trillion. Three.

Insane. I thought they had like a trillion in company. Three trillion. Three. Insane. I thought they had like a trillion in cash. Something like that. I don't know. Jeez. Can't wait to wear my goggles around. Oh my God, yeah. Life.

Never have to leave your house again. You know what? My phone's been going a little slower. Is we getting a new one here soon or what? I saw Diplo met Tim Cook and he was wearing the goggles oh my god you're so cool west is a beast gosh he's so funny this was also the slap heard around the world month february 2022 will smith oh snap part of me feels like that was a long time ago part of me feels like it wasn't that's crazy there's a bit of a covid time yeah i i thought for sure that was like some hollywood stuff yeah i mean i thought

it was staged we witnessed the yeah i don't think it was i don't think it was no yeah yo you're gonna get tossed after that you gotta talk to him he won an oscar i know and he gets up there and get like i guess if it's your night it's your night i guess so i'm team chris in this one always love chris rock yeah peace come on man you can't do that come on i love will too that seemed like some dude parties a classic example of your personal life affecting your work life thanks crabby tyler wordle that was introduced to the world I was never a Wordle guy I played a few times I'm just not smart enough for it

I was more of a words with friends With a B I like the spelling B On New York Times Queen Elizabeth II Celebrates her 70th year In Britain Talk about longevity

Serving as the monarch And now she's dead R.I.P. I love that show What? The monarchy? The crown. The crown.

That's how I learned about all that stuff. I had no clue. I feel like Angie would have a Princess Di beanie baby. Oh, my mom has. Yeah. Yeah. Like stowed away. Yeah.

Every, I don't know, my mom's age, if you're a woman of that age, you love Princess Di. I didn't know why. And then age if you're a woman of that age you love princess di I didn't know why why and then you go and you watch the show and I don't know where the show who's making what make like what what but that's what I think that's what I think of with like everything I learned about how the monarch works I learned about like Britain's basically owned everything and then everyone started independent or like leaving stuff just like that yeah like that in her lifetime crazy yeah she was she took over and like her dad died at 35 or something and what and she wasn't supposed to be a queen her dad's brother her dad brother was supposed to be the

king but he did something that he wanted to marry an american he did something yeah yeah and so then he became king ends up dying she becomes queen at 17 and like that's when all like everything from everyone started breaking away from brit i don't know it's good show you guys should watch i should watch. I just read something or saw it on TikTok or anything recently that King Charles now, he doesn't buy in completely to modern medicine. And so he has a potionist. He's got someone making him potions and shit. This is the king of England. Fact check me on that later, Jack. All right.

Sports world. Sports world. National champions. Georgia. The dogs. Heisman trophy winner bryce young i wonder how he's gonna pan out he needs to have a team around him that's tough his strength's not like running around and looking like a phenom athlete his strength is like distributing reading defense you know He's a point guard. That's going to take a while and a good coach around him. Super Bowl, LA Rams.

We're the champions. We win over the game. NFL MVP, Aaron Rodgers. That was only two years ago, MVP. Was this the first of the back-to-back? Crazy. Yeah, right? I think so.

Yeah. Wow. And then Brady retires for the first time. Huh? Remember Brady, like, false started his retirement? Yeah.

Then he came back. I get confused. Four days later. Because of the... I get confused. It was like a Schefter tweet. Oh, Schefter. Yeah.

Shooting from the hip. Hmm? Just letting it spray, baby. Messi in Argentina wins the World Cup over Mbappé in France. That game was insane. That's a classic games with names. That's a game. That is a game. I would love to

do a full games with names with Messi in Spanish. I think Sneaky thinks he speaks English. He doesn't do it publicly. I'll get new lingo, baby. I'll download Rosetta Stone. Dude, I'm full MLS since Messi's been. So maybe we'll cut in between things.

Because my Spanish is más o menos. Así, así. Yo, wait up. Yo, how do you say, como se dice, that was a fucking sick-ass goal. Can you really? Best episode yet. Oh, my God, that would rock.

That'd be tight. National League fully adopts the DH. Hate it. Hate it. Hate it. Hate it. Baseball can't do anything right these days. Hate it.

The shot clock, I think, did something. Shout out to the team for that one. hate it the shot clock i think did something shout out yeah if you're watching on tv but if you go to a game you always want the game to be as long as possible like when i was a kid we go to a giants game like on a school night i was praying for extra innings just in case my mom's it's like you guys were up so late you know you that was what i was hoping for it's free baseball mom what's the legacy for this game? McVay? We got some big questions to answer What does this do for McVay's career And kind of putting him on that

Short list of best active coaches What do you think? 100% I mean he's like that new generation He's like the start of the young gun coach That everyone looked for Everyone's looking for the next McVay It was interesting hearing Whitworth talking about McVay because it seems like he had a lot of parallels

with what you've said about Belichick in terms of attention to detail, focusing this, this, this. But it seems like he's got a more modern approach with how he handles the players and the personnel and all that stuff. It's just interesting to see what kind of works and doesn't work. Yeah, there's multiple ways to top, Kyler. I think it's curious. Modern way.

No, I'm not. Don't you come at me. I'm the biggest Bill guy there is. All right, dude. I think they fucked up getting rid of Bill. West Mass, you hear that right now? It is funny, a guy that's 38 years old and you're already talking about the McVeigh coaching tree.

You know what I mean? That's how you know you're doing something right. That's when you know you're doing something right. When you're 38 and you're already against the tree talkVeigh coaching tree you know I mean that's how you know you're doing something right that's when you know you're doing something right when you're 38 and he's a mac daddy you played against them we played against them when we get him on we've been talking to him we'll see we gotta get his I gotta get his dad on his dad his dad's Ohio they're Ohio people you know what I mean football coach I went to the practice to do that Cooper Cup interview oh that's right and you know he's a football coach because he gets straight up in your face and like he's like right in your face telling you a story

literally like we're about to make out close talker like you remember i was at that game i'm like yeah like you just tell and then he'd walk away and go do something he'd come right back over and get my face i'm like that that's in the blood i love it the coaching's in the blood i love it oh yeah mcvaser nfl royalty let's see what some other legacy questions that came out of this one stafford where does this kind of what does this do for the stafford legacy he's a hall of famer yeah if you don't win this you still think hall of fame i mean you know the yards and everything in detroit were sick but you never playoff win till this season so who else is in that class who else is in his years um see that's what you gotta think of yeah stafford's class is weird because he

overlaps a couple yeah he's kind of like a gen x person where he's kind of like in the middle he was oh nine draft we're the same year Oh, yeah. Sanchez was in that draft. I mean, with the Super Bowl, 100%. First ballot. Okay. He's a tough football player, too, man. Rivers is probably going to get in without a win. I'm taking Matty Stafford over Phil.

Yeah. Same. Over Breeze? Yeah. I mean, I probably would they're definitely there there's a conversation there yeah I do kind of lump them together in my head it's sort of like in the same orbit of guy I guess I don't think you also would put in there the only difference with Breeze versus Stafford is Breeze was able to resurrect the Saints a little bit. And Stafford, whether it's his thing or not, up to a third of eight.

But Stafford was never able to resurrect the Lions, had to leave and get success elsewhere. So if there's any little thing. Yeah, but also Sean Payton versus the 15 coaches Matthew Stafford had. Drew Brees never had Calvin Johnson. Matthew Stafford was competing against Drew Brees never had Calvin Johnson. Matthew Stafford was competing against Drew Brees with just Calvin Johnson. And he had a couple other players, but he used to get beat up.

I don't know. That's a great argument. They're very similar. I can see both ways on that. Will Joe Burrow win a Super Bowl in Cincinnati? That's a tough one. You know what? They do have the Chiefs slaying gene.

If any of the AFC has that, it's the Bengals. They've done it. Yeah, but he's been hurt a bunch. A lot in the first couple years here. And can they keep that receiving board? No one's talked about that. We all talk about lamar and you know my guy joey b it's just he's gotten to a super bowl like he he gotta he gotta stay on the

field bro i know because he's he you know what i mean yeah are they what are they gonna do they're gonna lose boyd where they get they gotta they still have to address the offensive line. The defense is always really good. Hubbard Hendrickson and Lou Amarillo. Yeah. I saw him in Vegas. He's a good old football guy. He's cool as fuck. He was cool?

Yeah, he was cool. We had a drink. I love that. We used to battle against each other when he was in Miami. Oh, that's right. What's he drink, by the way? You a beer guy? We were all having a little tequila. Hey, all right. Oh, that's right. What's he drink, by the way? You a beer guy? We were all having a little tequila.

Hey, all right. I like that. A little Tommy T. Oh, yeah, baby. Hell yes. I think Joey B gets one. I think he gets one. Okay, so let's talk about AFC right now.

Okay. Lamar, Patrick Mahomes. He's a good player. If this was the year to get Patrick Mahomes, and I know they had a great defense, but if you had a shootout, you could win second down and have a blitz package against the Chiefs. I mean, this was your year.

Okay. So, Lamar. You got to piss off Josh Allen. This guy's been humiliated. He's watching all this stuff right now. You don't think Josh Allen's pissed off at home Who he's getting into that 8-9 year Where this is It's starting to come

And what about John Harbaugh and Justin Herbert What about that Could be a nice little duo So it's getting harder and harder No I know And talent's just rising and rising And harder and harder no i know and talent's just rising and rising and you got cj stroud coming on cj stroud cj you got new young buck coming on yeah i don't know i don't know trevor lawrence needs to get it we gotta we gotta do something

down there that was a bad miss yeah now that you think about it this year and i know it's the teams but it's a quarterback you know i mean i know it looks so it, but it's the quarterback. You know what I mean? I know. It looked so – It was always spurts. And then all of a sudden you're like, what the hell are we doing? Why are the Jacks – what are we doing here? After they had that comeback against the Chargers in the playoffs last year, it was like, oh, the Peterson thing is resurrected and it's sexy.

And then this year it was like – They were banged up a lot. You know know you got to learn that's another thing that's why it's look at look at how why the kansas city chiefs well how come they got it figured out how oh no they know how to they know they know consistency fucking they're the kings what do you think about this being able to reflect reflect on this with two years the jared goff-Matthew Stafford trade? Probably the best trade for both teams in the history of the league.

Seriously. It really did work out. Jared Goff, he's about to get another huge deal. Now, how much he wants to take will dictate on how good his success will be. And Matt Stafford, I mean, he got a bowl, and he looked like he just got resurgent this year. Mm-hmm. Like, he looks insane.

He is tough. They're only going to get better. They found Puka. You're going to get Koop healthier next year. They're going to get a couple. Their offensive line played damn well. They're only going to get better playing together. Add in Williams, Kyron Williams, defense, Young, Gunn.

I wonder what they're going to do with Aaron Donald. But the guy next to him, he was a second-team All-Pro. You know what I mean? But you see if Aaron Donald retires or he doesn't play, you're going to start to see why that guy was second-team All-Pro potentially. And I'm not taking anything away from it, but when you get to play next to yeah you know generational talent yeah like you get it makes you better because you're getting the favorable matchup most of the time are we talking

jonah williams here yeah yeah no i uh because that looked like one of those deals where it's like oh you feel so bad for golf he got shipped out to detroit he's gonna go there and die like it's gonna suck and then now they're the most fun team. I'm so happy for the city of Detroit that they were able to beat the Rams because that would have been catastrophic for that city. Oh, yeah. And then we did have a matchup. I forgot about the big matchup.

I was watching the game. I was like, if the Rams lose this game, it's like whatever. MCDC got to tighten it up, man. I love the aggressiveness, but we got to settle down, dude. Take the damn points you're i know i you're parcells guy right or payton sean payton sean payton guy yeah let's take some points man amen brother come on man okay so to wrap up this game it's the we not me game we not me game sean mcveigh's saying score 8.6 It should be the Breakfast Club Gang Breakfast Club Gang

Don't you forget about me John Hughes Bowl Is that what they do now when they leave the parking lot of Soho Soho Malibu Oh my god With the tires Yeah The fist bump

All time fist bump Oh and then we we got to talk about the numerology he did here oh yeah yeah he threw us off hey nice that's i was on the big time that's hard on my radar i was as the as the czar of the numbers here what do you think about that i mean i like that the score wasn't that high i think it's still higher than it should be but like i like like his team his camaraderie i think he could have gone high i think it's still higher than it should be but like i like like his team his camaraderie i think he could have gone better i think because he went 277s he got it through like a random number in there that made the outcome come to something better right because

he's double his number yeah like yeah i'm gonna 86 him as diner talk maybe 86 that's that score gameplay it did kind of end on somewhat of a controversial call there was another like if the biggest moments of the game are like two controversial calls like that kind of takes away from like the sanctity of the gameplay the name i never heard we not me it sounds nice it rhymes but like culturally it's not really there right right it's not star power fine it. Fine. This is a breakfast club score. Yeah, this is a breakfast club score. Come on now.

Molly Ringwald score. All right, well, that's that episode. Let's do the... Let's hit the whole hotline to see what's on your mind. Again, that number is 424-291-2290. Julian, don't double check. Get off the stupid damn podcast. We're getting the fucking team back together.

I already called Tom. He's going to be here tomorrow. Get your fucking ass to practice tomorrow. Get Grump. Come with him. We're going to get this fucking shit going. I'm not going anywhere else. We're starting a new fucking team.

We only need fucking 11 guys. Get the fucking practice tomorrow. I don't want no bullshit See you later Put your fucking shit on I'm telling you it's going to be raining Get out See you on the grass

That's pretty good Pretty good bubs I like that he's starting to get into UFO People should start sending in their Belichick Impersonations And then I'll just give a ranking on it I like that That's starting a new TV. We should start sending in their Belichick impersonations, and then I'll just give a ranking on it. I like that. That's a whole new podcast.

That's a spinoff. And then I can't wait for the first time that I see Bill in person. He's probably going to motherfuck me over it. Look, Joel's like, what the fuck? Will you just shut the fuck up about my whole voice? Hey, maybe that's in the Fox Green Room next year. Oh, man. Oh, boy.

I'm going to get Frank Caliendo in there, too. Yo, guys. It's your boy, Dallin, from PA. Quick question. Who looks better in a pair of shorts, Gronk or Jules, and why is it actually Jackie? Thanks.

Hey, me. I know that much, brother. The legs are a point of emphasis this offseason in the weight room. So it ain't me, but I will say the amount of comments we would get last season

when we were back in New York on the jorts, the people love the jorts. You rock them, brother. You know where I got the jorts from? Frank? Stone Cold Steve Austin. Well, no.

Those two were definitely jort people. Jessica Simpson and Dukes of Hazzard. You guys remember Flipper? Yeah. The old one from Nick and Knight? Yeah. Little kid used to have jorts. Oh, my God.

I thought that was tight. I would not have guessed that as to where you got him from. I forgot his name, but I used to like that show. I lived in Hawaii. I had jorts. I was a fucking pet dolphin. Like the one from the 60s, that one? No, it's like a TV show, Flipper.

Oh, the new adventures of Flipper. I think I was looking at Flipper. It looks like Flipper was revised in 95 as the new adventures. No, it's way older than that. It's from like the 60s. That's what I'm saying. When I said the 60s 63 that's what i'm saying when i said the 60s earlier it was burt reynolds he was in like some of them i think oh um brian kelly luke the kid it was a kid yeah bud ricks aka tommy norton also known as tommy norton

yeah he was uh yeah all right yeah he was a george rocker i feel like george is not the best attire if you're gonna be by by the ocean a lot. I know. Yeah, you need more of a baggy or something. A wicked material. Oh, man. Yeah, he's got them things on. Tommy. Shout out Tommy Norton, bro.

Hell yeah. Hell yeah. That's a good question. I bet Gronk can pull some off, though. Oh, yeah. His VMOs. Look tight as hell. Hell yes.

What up, Jules? I'm a high school kid from Foxborough, and my football team just won the state championship. Let's go. I was wondering if you heard about that. What do you think? Foxborough High won state-y at the Turkey Bowl? Because I think they played the state championships in Gillette.

Yeah. Let's fucking go, Fox high hell yeah we were some we were referenced to you guys so many times and we had a bad football play i was gonna say a lot of those kids could beat you guys yeah according to coach belladonna hey kids are fucking foxborough high i could do so technically coach we really could they're state champions but hey, Massachusetts state championships are bullshit. Why? There's like 25 of them. They've got more state champions than Texas.

Massachusetts. Why don't you just crap in their cornflakes again? No, that's good for them. Kids just won state. It's someone who lost the Division III-B Super Bowl Central Mass versus Western Mass. There it is, guys. He hates you because he hates you.

He hates you because he hates you, Foxborough High. Playing in their own backyard, the second-ranked Foxborough High team clinched the MIAA Division V Super Bowl 48-21 over top- top ranked Hanover High. Hey Kyler, did they win the last game they could have played in? They sure did. Congrats Foxborough High. Shit. We're sending you guys we got no information on them. Text us.

Send you some merch dog. Hell yeah. Hey Jules my name is Megan. I am 22 and I go to your alma mater, Kent State University. I wanted to call in and to your alma mater, Kent State University. I wanted to call in and ask that you bring on someone of the likes of Nick Saban or someone who was on the Kent State championship team and talk about that big football win before Saban, of course, went to professional league to coach. Also wanted to say I've been trying to DM you on Instagram because I would love it if you could come to my graduation from Kent State of course

this spring 2024 it's on May 10th by the way anyway I think it'd be really dope if you talked about that game anyway I hope to see you do this and hope to see you at my graduation maybe

bye right on Megan I hope to see you do this and hope to see you at my graduation. Maybe. Ha ha. Yeah. Okay. Bye. Right on, Megan. It took Jules 10 years to go to his own graduation. Yeah. We definitely got to, Megan, we got to get saving on. Oh, that would rock.

He's doing TV with ESPN now. I know. He's called College Game Day. Yeah. He's got to get on here, man. He goes on McAfee all the time. Come on here. Come see us. Can't sit alone, baby. We baby we'll settle for an attorney i don't care he was i think he's

he gives he's our number one booster is he really i think or he's something like that he donates most of our football program hell yeah that's fucking awesome m and miss terry baby love him i would love to have a conversation with nick. Have you guys ever met? We've met, I think, in passing. Okay. But, yeah, I mean, I love Coach Saban. I was a Tide fan because of Coach Saban a little bit. Same. I think we all kind of like, yeah, like, just want to witness greatness

and keep rooting him on. What game do you think? I just like him because he went to Kent State. Did he play at Kent State? Yeah, he played. She's talking talking about 1972 i think it was 72 is the last time we won is that when jack lambert was there yeah he played with our i think coach may have played with them because lambert was drafted what 74 saban was there from 70 to 72 just missed a defensive back baby but then he was a ga at kent state from

73 to 74 75 76 linebackers coach so yeah he got his playing careers going there and coached his uh began his coaching career there hell yeah what a fucking guy what about flashes baby golden flash what about antonio gates you guys definitely run into each other we've seen each other like an all-star or something i think i saw him at the super bowl he was around i mean joe walsh joe i'm just going down my list of great kent state guys michael keaton michael keaton people forget jim or uh oh jim uh drew carrey drew carrey really i kept saying he'd be an awesome guest he's a he's like a big-time football fan. Cleveland rocks. Cleveland rocks.

Dude. Oh, Steve Harvey, too? Shout out to Steve Harvey. Arsenio. Dude. Arsenio. We're punching above our weight here at Kent State. Hey, we...

Oh, shit. David Sedaris? Kent State, man. I'm telling you, we got some fucking people. When I went on my visit there, they go, yeah, we have the uh we have uh the research team that developed the plasma tv hell yeah three weeks later the lcd came out and ruined it plasma was not the wave after that fuck oh james harrison shout out james harrison harrison scary

guy yeah loves love these dude get him get him on do that he had that 99-yard reception return for touchdown. What about... Now I'm thinking graduation. We got to get James Harrison on. He's a legend, bro. He could lift this whole house. You guys had a little layover, right? Yeah, we played together.

Yeah. He's a beast. What is Kent, Ohio? What is Kent State like in the spring around graduation time? Well, May 4th, 1970 is when they had the shooting not cool the state the state troopers yeah but the crazy thing is that was like that weekend was like a party weekend i was gonna say springtime in college for it or something it was like the biggest craziest there was sherman street there was college street college fest germania oh it

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