Games with Names - The Best Of Episode!

Episode Date: December 31, 2024

Happy New Year! What a year it's been! We had a lot of fun in The Nuthouse this year, so we figured this would be the perfect time to look back at some of the best moments of 2024. Of course we have to relive some stories from Matt Light's classic episode, we're looking back at an all-time story from the Ed O'Neill episode, we're revisiting some serious Ernie Adams knowledge, and a whole lot more. See ya in 2025! Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What's up everyone? It's Justin Penick from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast with Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. We roll three times a week on Mondays, on Wednesdays, on Fridays, breaking down everything you need to know about the NFL. We're gearing up for the NFL playoffs. I hope you can join us. Join in with us three times a week. Listen to Football Today on the iHeartRadio Apple Podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts and you will be glad you did. There was a recent survey that broke the internet. Talking about how many uncrustables NFL teams consume which is like a small nation could eat that many.

We used to have like four different types of PB&Js. Our little lunch ladies, they would make these. Tom used to just eat, he would never eat the crust. I remember that. I think he would just eat the just eat his, he would never eat the crust. I remember that. I think he would just eat the white part of it and he'd leave the crust. Welcome to Games with Names. I'm Julian Edelman.

They're Jack and Kyler. And we're on a mission to find the greatest game of all time. So buckle your seat belts and get ready and let's go because it's the sixth day of Hanukkah. The new year is coming here tonight on today's episode. We are going to go back some of the greatest, funniest, best moments of all of our shows of last year. One of those cool memory episodes. We'll walk down memory lane. We've had a great year. 2024 was awesome. And we're celebrating 2024. And on today's episode, we're going to reminisce going through some of our best moments.

We'll start by reminiscing with the old Matt Light, Belichick email. I mean, that thing broke the internet. That was so funny. I'll read it for you. It's literally my prized possession. Yeah. And we'll get Terry Bradshaw getting into practice fights. Some of the funniest stories here in those old guys. You may lose with me. You'll never win without. You got that? Then we go with the legendary Ernie Adams.

When it's football now, it's dead-ass serious 100% every time. So you got to stick around to the very end, guys. Let's go. Happy New Year. Games with Names is a production of iHeartRadio. The year was 2024. The Nuthouse Los Angeles, California. Super Bowl champs, NBA champs, Oscar winners, team owners, and wrestlers? And we're still on the search for the greatest game of all time. This is Games with Winnies, the best of 2024. 2024 is a good year. A lot of stuff happened.

Started this year with some great episodes. Had some fun times, had some fun times, some not fun times, give a favorite moment. The live show, man, we sold out the Wilbur. Wilbur was so. Two shows. Yeah. That was incredible. We had Ernie Adams on here.

What a, before anyone had Ernie Adams on. We went to Vegas, man, we've been everywhere. Vegas. Vegas. We went to the Hamptons and hung out with Bon Jovi at his own house. He had us taking a guest in his house. We're taking this thing on the road. Did Boston. Boston, Bon Jovi at his own house. He had to take a guest to his house. You're taking this thing on the road.

Did Boston, Boston, Bon Jovi, Vegas, pull up. The roast was fun and having all from the roast, bloodsowing everyone, light. Great year.

Nikki, oh what a year. Jim Craig, Miracle on Ice. Oh my gosh. Do you believe in miracles? Elevator Pitch Game. Danny DeVito. Fucking Danny DeVito. Fucking Danny DeVito.

Casey Affleck. Academy Award winners in here. I just keep on seeing little windshield wipers on his glasses, cause it is so juicy, those sandwiches at. What is it? Jersey Mike's. Jersey Mike's. It's so juicy. Remember he has those little windshield wiper glasses? Let's do quick Year's resolutions, and then we'll kick into some of these clips

All right, you go first Jackie for the resolution. Yeah. Oh man. This is tough Maybe glaze a little less I'm just kidding. Oh, I'm about to say can you imagine can you imagine a world like that? I can't stink I want to be a better golfer. I wanna break 90. It's more of a goal than a resolution. What about you, Kyler? This is a real one,

and I've actually been saying this to Jack the last couple weeks. I'm gonna try to be more positive. Should you put the grin shadow on ice? The grin shadow, yeah. I got out of my system last episode. Oh, man. I'll be more positive in 2025.

I like it. I wanna try, no one asked me, but I'll just say. I'm gonna, you. I'm gonna try, I wanna honestly work on my communication skills in so many different ways. If you had to pick someone to model your communication goals after, who would that be? Who's the best communicator?

Like who is the pinnacle of communication? Brady was pretty good at communicating. I could see that. Like if I had some funk with him, or if you know, I wasn't, like he would sit you down like, all right, what's the deal? He knew that he could have uncomfortable conversations. I'm not really good at those.

You know, I just, I need to work on that. I need to improve. And then overall, just improvement. Continue in patience. I need a lot more patience. Divert you. I need more of that too. You know what I mean?

So, that's what New Year's is good for. Yeah, I mean. Fresh start. Get to try to make the best version of yourself this next year. Reflect. Reflect. A lot of that. A lot of reflection.

Good year. Amen. 2024 and 2025. Gonna be some good stuff 2025. What do we got now? Let's do it. Who could forget Matt Light's wild appearance in the NUT House? We were trying to decide which was the best moment for Matt Light, and we almost just put the whole episode.

Yeah, I agree. Can you imagine this episode just like... From Hunt in the Woods, behind Gillette, to Pranks Galore. Oh my goodness. This was an instant classic. The gargoyle. Oh, I wonder where Briggs is. Wonder where... Briggs, we want to Briggs is. Wonder where Briggs.

We want to get you on. Get your side of the story. That dang mouse. He had that mouse all over the screen. Mental error. The infamous prank that he pulled on Bill. Let's look back at that one. So, yeah, we got the Matlite prank on Coach Balachuk.

Let's go back to that. Let's go check it out. And Bill's kind of pissed off. Like, yeah, what did you do? I heard that's kind of pissed off like yeah, what did you do? I heard that story once you went into his office and what did you do? So I had this remote right and again, this is back in the day when this stuff didn't really exist, but I was always surfing the net and it was a mouse and it plugged in actually, but they didn't do anything when you plugged in and you couldn't actually control the mouse.

But there were I don't know how you get this much energy out of two AAA batteries, but those two AAA batteries when you hit that mouse button It would send like Jesus through your body like real quick And so he was in a staff meeting it was it was in training camp and nobody was there So I slip in you know, I'm on my way out They're still working really hard trying to make us better and I go in and I put that thing on his laptop on his desk I come in the next morning you know dying necks killing me it's like to start training camp I'm not even thinking about what I did tonight before and and bears is like immediately when I walk in he's like not good like like

seriously like and you can see in his eyes like the bearish the bear he's not not good and I'm like what you know but I know what I know what he's saying Right, but I'm like, what are we talking about? Denied to you die and he's like just tell me it's not good man What happens not good and I'm like, hey look, I Can't play this game right now. I gotta go get ready so I walk into the meal room and when I walk in there Maddie P is Just got some toast or something and he turns around and he sees me and he's like, you're an idiot.

And I'm like, what? I'm like, you too? And he's like, hey man, he's fired up and because of your dumb ass, we spent like two more extra hours here last night. And I'm like, for what? And he goes, well, he goes, I know it was you. And when he shocked himself the first time,

he had his hand off the keyboard. The the second time his hand hit the keyboard and it deleted his notes you know how he takes notes everything of everything everything like hey by the way this is crazy man here's it here's a great example work let's say we're playing the Jets and it's it's it's Monday afternoon so we're playing a divisional game, right? We're coming off a loss on the road, and we have two key players on defense that went down. He'll go back in his notes

and do keyword search or something, and he'll find a scenario that mimics that almost to a tee, and then he'll look and see, how did I address the team? Did I go hard on them? Did I take it easy on him? Did I push him and how hard did I push him did we practice a certain way? What was the outcome? How did it come out all that stuff gets analyzed man? That's the craziness and the complexity that a lot of people don't realize

I don't know how much that weighs in his success or whatever else, but that's who he is right so when Now by the way first time he didn't have his hand on the keyboard second time he shocked himself he did and it closed in a program the way I look at that is you're an error repeater that the first one was my fault second one that's your fault now we didn't we didn't talk about that but I will say this when he lost that that was not a good day because it wasn't like autosave apparently so all of his notes for that day apparently went bye bye.

And what I thought was really so I wanted to go get my mouse. But I left that thing in there, buddy. Once I heard about that, when I was like, yeah, that thing's gone. What did he say to you? He I mean, literally, he said something like, I mean, he stopped me. And by the way, he bills kind of like Tommy, like I have no idea how time he got from one meeting room to the next. I don't know if he floated in the atmosphere.

He became particles and just reappears in weird places. Obviously he didn't shower. Tommy never showered. Never. Nobody ever saw him in there. Weird. Well actually I see him a couple times. He'd have the two shower heads on him.

Remember he would be in the corner sometimes. Rarely. Typically after a game. And he would do two shower heads. I'm like dude. Yeah two showers I know and neither one of those heads wanted to be pointed to him No, seriously like the water was like he's he's hydrophobic Like it is like water doesn't like I mean you gotta think about it

He probably goes to like his sick home where like he's got like hydrogen based water no Listen, I think he has to wash hydrogen based water. No, I'm listen. I think he has to wash him every day. I think so. Seriously. That's Alex. Alex Guerrero. Little tiny hands. Like so what did Bill say?

Hey, man, he was fired up. He basically told me, if you go in my office again, I will kill you. And of course, I denied. I'm like, Coach, what are we even talking about? He's like, you know exactly what we're talking about. I really don't. I said, but I'm going to get some food here. I'll see you and of course I denied I'm like coach. What are we even talking about? He's like, you know exactly what we're talking about. I really don't I said but I'm gonna get some food here I'll see you in the meeting room and and but it was weird because Matty P came at me and sort of bears and I Thought it I thought they were like flipping it on me, right?

Like oh, we're gonna make him think that you know coaches really fired up No coaches because Dante was the last one because you know Dante doesn't mess around Dante was real matter of what what the scar say? He's like he's like, I don't think that was a good idea you probably shouldn't go in the head coach's office and I'm like you too I'm like tonight till date forever forever but that's the so again we didn't have a conversation about it wasn't like at some point he came to me it was like hey that shit was kind of funny you got me that shit hurt you know like I believe

cool to acknowledge any of this like shit was kind of funny you got me if that shit hurt you know like I believe cool to acknowledge any of this like hey but remember that email you sent me like that was funny but there's a part of me that believes like what he reiterated on his concluding remarks email that he was kind of serious you know I'm saying Ted serious Bill used to he was notorious for fucking quizziness on spot and I could have sworn Matt Light was sleeping in a meeting and Bill tried to catch Matt and he goes, Matt, you got all the fucking answers. Exactly what he said. Actually, I was just going to say that. Matt, you got all the fucking answers.

What coverage is that? And you hit you hit the coverage. What was it like to blitz on to see it was like the square root of my susley's triangle is equal to the other. I'm like, and two blitz on 2C? It was like the square root of an isosceles triangle is equal to the opposite. I'm like, and everybody turns around and they're like, because they know I sleep, like you know I sleep. I slept through every meeting. And I don't, honestly, my wife was like,

you're gonna get fired like my first year. I remember Dante Scarnecchia, my line coach, would make me stand up in the meeting room when we had our offensive line meetings and I would fall asleep eating a candy bar trying to stay awake eating a candy bar fall asleep standing and he would be like like if you if you fall asleep one more time I will kill you and I'm like oh man like I'm a rookie I didn't know what was happening on that one though so this is the greatest right so notorious sleeper

Copen would kick me he sat right me. He would always feed me the answer too, because I have no, fuck, I don't know what Bill just said. I was asleep. And so, and by the way, like football, like yes, we're a bunch of Neanderthals, but like I don't need to watch that 700 times. Like all we do is sit and rewind, watch, rewind, watch. So on this one, if you think on that season,

we had a bunch of young guys and defensively as you know The defense could get everything or you know bill would be like alright look, you know, you know, what are we expecting? You know, he'd be talking to the offense in this situation. What are we expecting them to do? I mean, it's third down. We're in a red zone. I mean, you know, we got you know, whatever we got trips You know and and he'd ask somebody a question and it'd be like a really difficult question Yeah, and and we would come up with an answer. That's pretty good I mean he'd be like, oh, I'm not like what the fuck, you know, that's not what they're gonna do I mean god damn it, you know Have you watched an ounce of film and then he would go to the defense and he'd be like, all right guys

Like what's one plus seven and they'd be like, uh six and a half and they like that's pretty close pretty good All right now i'm moving on Those guys have no idea what color are their jerseys right like you would use some fucking terrible You get the easiest questions these fucking defensive guys, and they always got a pass Every time so I'm listening to this and I'm like these cats have no idea and bills kind of pissed off Like we had a couple weeks of coming in and I want some answers It's a it's a Wednesday morning right and you better have my answers right well they weren't having this so I go on my way out well I don't know why I just had this this

epiphany and I walk into coach's office which is always awkward like you don't go in there just to go in there oh no and you got to pass Bears the little man purse right there the front right and I? And I love bears, but you know, so anyway, I go in there, coach is working at his computer and he looks up at me, he's like, you know, like there wasn't a question, it was just like a, you know, and I'm like, and I'm right then immediately, I'm like, why did I do this?

This is not gonna be, I'm like, coach, hey, listen, I'm like, these guys don't have the answers. They're not coming in with stuff. I said, I thought it'd be funny if like, you know, next time we do this, like on the next Wednesday or whatever, you throw me some questions and I'll just rattle them off. It'd be like shit that even Brady wouldn't know. And he's like, all right, what are you thinking?

And I'm like, well, you know, like, you know, you say something, then I write off an answer, then you try to hit me with another one, try to catch me slipping, and I'll just keep rattle them off and all the guys are gonna, and that way now they're gonna know, like, I got to get in the film room. I need if light knows this shit, then I really need to do

a little bit more study. And it fell on deaf ears, dude. He was just like, I mean, look, I mean, you know, no, like it wasn't like a hey, that sounds like a great idea or that's really stupid. It was just like indifferent. So I walked out of there thinking that that failed three weeks go by. I'm walking in and bears like, hey, Bill wants to see. And I'm like, oh snap, what did I do? Like I totally forgot about the whole conversation, right? And I'm not kidding you, I walk in his office and immediately he goes, all right look, you

know, I'll hit you with, you know, what they're doing a third down and then I'm gonna talk to you about, you know, when we get into the red zone, you know, what that looks like. And then the last one I'm like, and he rattles off these three questions he's gonna ask me and I'm like, okay. And I'm like to talk to you about, you know, when we get into the red zone, you know what what that looks like. And then the last one, I'm like, and he rattles off these three questions he's going to ask me and I'm like, OK. And I'm like, what's the answer? Like, I have no idea. You're speaking like Swahili. I have no idea what you've been referring to, Bill.

And he's like, oh, well, so I grab a pen and I start writing the answers on my hand. And we go in team meeting, kicks off and he starts off with his typical. I mean, you know, in the category of what we're not looking for is some bangles, you know, problem with some guy getting arrested at a strip club or something. Always a bangles player, right? I swear to God, always a bangles player. And then then he looks like we learned the bangle formation. The F was all the way in the inside because he was in jail in jail.

Yeah. Easy way to remember that. So when he asked me, when he says exactly what you said, I like you got all the fucking answers. All right, here we go. What are they doing this? And I literally just rattled off immediately. I remember I could hear the air come out of Copen. He's like, shit, he's awake. And I didn't even know that one. So the next one he throws out there, I immediately answer that one. And the third one, I'm like literally looking at my hand, of course. And so when it's done and we leave the team meeting room, I remember the guys coming up to me and they're like,

what the, I'm like, hey, did you just get in the film room? You know, like, like I didn't acknowledge the fact that Bill and I set that up. And you know, here's the best part, Jules, I've never had a conversation with Bill about any of the funny stuff that's ever happened between him and I. Look at Matt, like, how did he stay on that team for so long? It's incredible

The carte blanche he had around there was is impressive look don't use big words neither of us All right, what do you say you or I understand? Oh, it's such a bill. It's a that was all time. All right. What do we got here next? on our next moment comes TV legend and former pittsburgh stiller Ed o'neill and another great lesbian. Oh, I mean I four touchdowns four touchdowns in 69 66 66. I don't know why but I did you see that one episode? All right because we've had him on All my algorithms have a lot of Ed O'Neill and Married with Children clips.

The one where he's playing softball and Pegs over there, like, no, that's not him. You know what I mean? This guy's like, is that Al Bundy? And she tells him this huge story about it. I mean, I just, I fucking love that show. I love that show. That was such a fun

episode for us choked me out after the episode Jiu-Jitsu champion with the Gracie's man. Yeah, you might want to be messed with man. That was so fun All-timer that was an all-timer. All right, let's let's go to Ed story of a cup of coffee with the Pittsburgh Steelers. Let's do it. This was not too long after I got cut. Yeah. So I was still following things pretty closely.

And you know, I knew all about Frank O'Harris and those guys, because they came a year after I got cut. And when I got cut, I said I got cut, I had a cup of coffee with them, basically. That's about it. But yeah, so I was still, you know, sitting in the bar with my buddies watching that's about it. But yeah, so I was still sitting in the bar with my buddies watching these games.

And glad I wasn't playing at that point. Yeah, but you had to be vested because you got drafted with Mean Joe Green, you got drafted with a lot of these pro football Hall of Famers. And so you got to enjoy, and it was Chuck Noll's first year, right? It was Noll's first year.

And so you got to, you had his first training camp and you got to know these people, so you get vested because you have relationships with these guys, huh? Yeah, I mean it was, you know, it was very intense. You know, you've been to those camps. I mean, I didn't make a whole lot of friends. It was a- Job.

Yes. Try to make the team. But it was fun. I actually enjoyed it. Yeah. As opposed to college. I mean, I don't know why you would think it would be the opposite, but I actually enjoyed

the training down there. Yeah, you know, what people don't realize, because I was in a very similar situation as you. You were a priority free agent, so they signed you. Yes, exactly. I was a seventh round draft pick, which is the last round of our draft which some would argue it's better to be a free agent because you get two years contract instead of locking you in for a third.

And you were a quarterback. I was a quarterback. Yeah. But the mental aspect when you're on the team and there's 90 guys they got to cut it down to 53 and you're sitting, did you used to play the numbers game, you're on the team and there's 90 guys, they gotta cut it down to 53. And you're sitting, did you used to play the numbers game? You're sitting in training camp. Well, they're gonna keep this guy.

They're gonna keep that guy. Yeah, I had a situation where, you know, I don't know if yours was the same as ours, but ours, the Steelers, they would put a board up and if your name wasn't on it, you were cut. So it's kind of a nice way to do it. You don't see your name as this guy got cut. People don't know you, they don't even know you got cut.

And it's completely changed nowadays. Nowadays, you'll be sitting in a locker room and they have this guy, everyone calls the Turk. It's probably like, he's like an offense assistant of assistant of another assistant. and he comes up to your locker And he taps on your shoulder. He says hey head coach wants to see you bring your playbook Oh, no, I had that. Oh, see they went to they went through the when it started out. Okay, they had so many guys Yeah, they cut the way I just mentioned but then if you got a long

Some then it turned into oh by the way Coach snow would like to see you in his office and bring your playbook. That's what happened to me. Geez. Yeah. So, but then, you know how nice they are to you when you go in there. You know, we're going a different route.

You know, you're just not going to play in. Well, with me, it was, well, you never played outside linebacker and you're trying to make the team and learn the position at the same time. That's hard to do. I said, yeah, he said well I think they I think I think I remember it as he well You can go to the eagles if you want to and have they'll give you a good look We'll rent a car for you. You can drive down the pa pike

But I need to know right now And I I don't know what happened to my thinking it was like You're gonna what? I want to drive a car Philadelphia no, I said I'm done. I'm finished. Thanks a lot. Wow That was it, but I was getting sick of it to be honest with you. Yeah, I played for two colleges I had some knee problems and I just I don't know what it was. I didn't even like coach as much You know, I got I don't I like no He was a well, I didn't get to know much. You know, I got, I liked Noel.

He was, well, I didn't get to know him much, but he was a real gentleman, and I thought he was a nice guy he was. But I had coaches in college I didn't like at all. In high school too. I had to start thinking maybe it was my fault. It was to that point. But I was finished.

I just said, he said, well, what are you gonna do? I said, I don't know, but not this. And then I remember when I went to my, back to the dorm room, I had a roommate. His name was Clarence Oliver, San Diego State. He made the team as the defensive back. And I think he only played one year. I think he broke his back. But he made it.

But I went in and he was like, what happened? I said, what do you think? So I was backing up and the guy came in. They said, well, the car's out there. Where do you want to go? And I said, Pittsburgh. I'm not from Pittsburgh. But I knew a friend in Pittsburgh.

So I said, I'm going to Pittsburgh. And he says, OK, we'll drive you to Pittsburgh. It's La Trobe, PA. So he said, we'll drive you to Pittsburgh. You know, it's not too, it's La Trobe, PA. So he said, we'll swing by the stadium on the way out because your cleats are there in the locker. And we got a lot of swag for you. We got great jerseys and t-shirts and hats and shorts. And I said, I don't want any of that shit.

He said, you don't want the, it's good stuff. I don't want it. Am I gonna wear it? I'm not wearing it. I don't want the cleats either, I'm not gonna use them anymore. So he took me into Pittsburgh and I had this rudimentary idea of where my friend lived.

So I was trying, I didn't wanna go home. It was what it was. So I directed him. Why didn't you wanna go home? You know, I mean, that was all screwed up. I thought, I don't wanna go home and have to explain this. 100%. so I said Uh, it was since still in the summertime

So I directed him up a street and I saw a bar It was a local bar with the door open the summertime the doors no air, you know door were open I said right here. My friend lives right around that bar. Just dropped me off here. You sure you know, they kind of said yeah Give me the bag adios so I went in the bar and it was like two o'clock in the afternoon and there were like a couple of you know locals it was a local joint yeah so I walk in I'm 23 years old they don't know me I'm a stranger in this neighborhood and they're like what's this good I order a beer in this neighborhood. And they're looking like, what's this good? I order a beer, and they got the TV up high on the wall. And we're watching it, and the news comes on,

and they're showing Armstrong walking on the moon. Wow. That's when I got cut. And I'm thinking, well, somebody had a good day. He had the golf club, right? And I'm watching it. And then they went to the sports. And of course, it's Pittsburgh. So they go linebacker, Ed O'Neill released today from the Steelers. And that's my picture. And these guys are in the in the bar. And they look,

they go, you're Ed O'Neill. Yeah, yeah. And they said, your money's no good here. Now they're all buying me drinks. I end up at three o'clock in the morning in some some car with some girl with a state hoopie pulling me over, you know, I don't even know my name at this point. And the guy looks in, and I think I had my shirt off, and you know, I was almost naked. And I'm driving, though. And he says, you know, I had my drivers. And I said, did you get cut today from Pittsburgh? I said, yep.

He said, miss, can you drive? She said, yeah. He's just driving around. And he said, can you drive this guy home? And she said I'll take him says he knows somebody and he's letting him go Because it was you know, it was Pittsburgh Pittsburgh Steelers They loved them Steelers even if you got cut it doesn't make any you're still part of the team I you're still part of the team. Anyway, that's my I don't think I've told that story ever that so you were

Defensive lineman in college. I played Handsome joker little guard middle guard on defense. Okay, and I played defensive end and I played tight end In college, okay, you know, I just went around like that So what was the you said that you mentioned you were playing outside linebacker in Steelers camp. What was that? Well that's all you got, that's all they had for me. I couldn't be a cornerback, I wasn't quick enough.

I mean I ran a 4.740 in 68. That's my number though. But you know, I was about 230. 4.7, then. 230, that's like a 260 guy running 4'6 now. But you guys didn't train for it, that was fast then. You only had a couple 4'4 guys on the team. Well you know, when I did, I narrated the thing

on Peyton Manning, you know that timeline. And it was so nicely written, I was very impressed with it. And this was not long ago, and I was struck by the fact that he was coached, and you were too, right? Your dad was a coach. My dad was a coach. And I mean, I was never coached. I don't think I was really ever coached.

We just played pickup ball, and when we went to high school, there was coaches there, but it's a long story. They didn't really coached. We just played pickup ball and when we went to high school there was coaches there but I it's a long story they didn't really coach me. Yeah it was just my whole idea was knock the shit out of you and I'll progress. So it wasn't the best way to learn football. The game has changed now because that used to be the old that used to be the ultimate equalizer of the guy who even then it didn't work right. Even then it didn't work right. Even then it didn't work right. Because you could hit a guy, like on a reverse,

say they run around and you're in and you've got a clean shot. And instead of tackling him, I would hit him with a forearm. And sometimes they wouldn't go down. They'd spin and keep going. I mean, it was like that. You know, it was just, it was like kamikaze football. Well, you would have been a great special teamer. Probably.

He's outside, he's in the car. I still don't understand why he didn't go to the Eagles camp. Different time, different era. He was a stiller. Yeah. He wanted to be a Pittsburgh stiller. He said, I'm done with this. I'm done with it. Hey, thank God for all or we wouldn't have had Al Bundy.

Amen. I'm glad it played out the way it played out. He's such a legend. That is a legend. He's the best. We'll be right back after this quick break. What's going on everybody? This is Justin Penick from John Boy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast alongside Bobby Skinner and Chris Rose. after this quick break. race? Is Josh Allen gonna pull it out? Lamar Jackson? Can Saquon Barkley even break the rushing record? Can the Steelers keep up their momentum? We talk about everything, we break it down. Stats, analytics, and of course Chris Rose is bringing his perspective on being

a pro in the media world as well. Listen to football today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and you will be glad you did. Hope you could join us for the postseason run. On our next moment comes from a Nuthouse East Classic. Current BC head coach, games with names listener. And one of my former offensive coordinators, Billy O'Brien joined us and boy, was it a treat. That was a treat. Look at the time that we had together

and all the fun stories. Little Tom Brady Billy O'Exchange on the sidelines because of Ty Kwon Underwood's undercut. Freaking in cut on the end line. I mean, it's interesting. Let's get into it. Let's check it out. That was a fun reminder, the Tom event.

And it was all, you know, it was fun to celebrate Tom. How was it coaching him? Yeah, no, so basically I went from a weight wide receiver coach, Josh got the Denver job and Bill, I'll never forget it, my wife and I were going out to dinner. We lived in Medfield and we were going to the mall, to California Pizza Kitchen.

CPK, baby. Nice. It was like a place we would go. Fucking great. Great barbecue chicken pizza. And it was pouring rain and my phone rang and it's Bill and he's like hey listen you know Josh is taking this Denver job listen I'm gonna make you the quarterback coach but you know look I'm not gonna call you the coordinator but you're gonna do all that like you're gonna do like just so

you know like you're gonna script and you're gonna do this and you're I'm like okay great it was like a two-minute conversation it was it look I was like hey Bill I appreciate it all right see you Monday. See you Monday. Hang up boom. Just keep going to California pizza I turned to my wife and I was like, I think he just said I'm the quarterback coach So it was just a great, you know, that was a cool night for my family and to have the opportunity to coach You know, obviously what we believe is the greatest quarterback of all time. When he, when he first, he was out on the west coast and he came back for OTAs that year,

09, the year we drafted you. Yeah. I'll never forget this. He came in my office. He said, look, I want to be coached. He's like, look, I don't want, don't waste my time, but I want to be coached. And he was right about that. And I learned a lot about, you know, how he wanted to be coached, what he wanted to know. Like I can remember one of my first meetings, I was so prepared, I had this like book of like computer reports and I gave him this. I'm like, Tom, look at this book, you know,

and he's like, what is this? I want one sheet. I want one sheet that tells me boom, boom, boom, first, second down, third down, boom, boom, first, second down, third down, boom, fronts, pressures, red area, backed up, the whole thing. And I was like, oh my God. But from that point, I did the one sheet and I used that one sheet to this day for quarterbacks because he wanted to be able to think quickly.

He didn't want a big computer report. He was a guy that if you showed him that you could work with him, like you could take in his input and show him that you could work together to formulate a really good offense, like then you were going to have a great relationship. And I think that's why he and I got along so well because we had our ideas, and then he would come in on Tuesdays with his ideas, and we would put those ideas into with ours, and I would put it all together. And then each night I would have to email it to him.

And so I don't know if Josh, I think Josh probably would do the same thing, but he went to bed early. So if it was like Tuesday night for Wednesday morning, here's the game plan by 8 p.m. Here's the game plan for third down by 8 p.m. on Wednesday, for red area, 8 p.m. on Thursday for you know Red area 8 p.m. On Thursday, you know, I mean for the next day But that forced you to work get your work done and be prepared and then he would Email back with hey, I love this play. I love this play. I don't really like this play

Hey, what do you think about this play and it was just that type of relationship, you know and coaching them was it was awesome That's really cool to hear, you know, and people don't realize that Tom loves being coached. I mean, Billy O was probably so overwhelmed jumping into that thing, because when I got there, they are, like they already had three Super Bowls. They were already the Patriots,

and that was like, and I remember seeing him throw for the first day, and I was like, man, this motherfucker can throw. That's a beautiful sight. You know what the first day and I was like, man, this motherfucker. Oh, yeah. He hit the right. Beautiful sight. You know what I mean? When he was throwing, he threw a two hole shot to Randy or something. And Randy late handed like, and like didn't even have his button, chin strap buckled. Like, and it just, they look like a, they look like pro A1.

And to hear that he liked to be coached is awesome. I mean, to the point where you coached, where you guys are damn near fist fighting on the sidelines. Billy O. Can we get into that? What happened there? No, hold on now. I mean, fist fight. Tiger one underwood.

You were at practice. You know how practices are. Once again, going back to, you're really like brothers. You really are with your assistant coaches. Sometimes you just want to slap the shit out of your brother. Exactly, so you can remember practices, like when Bill would make us use the headsets or whatever, or we wanted to use the headsets to practice for the game,

and so I'd be pressing the button, and it wouldn't beep, it would be screwed up, and maybe I'd be yelling at Donnie Brosher, and Tom would be out on the field like, you gotta press the button, you're not pressing the button, you're not pressing the button. You're not pressing the button I took the whole thing and like remember that day and threw it at him. I'm like you you've pressed the button

I'm pressing the button that things broken, you know, so these little fight they went to the intercom member Then they went to walkie talkie, but I mean these little things would come up and so in that game we Dion had gotten hurt and And so in that game, we, Deion had gotten hurt and like leading up to that game late in the week and we signed Taekwon Underwood who now is like the receiver or he's the receiver. We signed him late in the week and we were driving the ball and somebody else got hurt. So Taekwon had to go in and we ran branch and he had the end cut. He was the X and he didn't run a great end cut, he kind of faded. And Josh, what's his name, the corner for the Redskins

undercut it, Tom kind of looped it in there. So we come over to the sideline, and Tom's ripping Taekwon. And I can remember Wes like, all right man, like let's move on, basically like, we all just gotta move on. We were frustrated because we weren't moving the ball well that game, like there's a lot of shit

that goes up and on the sideline. So then it just became, I don't want to get into all that was said, but like, hey Tom, basically like, you need to shut the F up. We gotta move on now, because Grossman's driving the ball, we're gonna possibly go to overtime. And you remember who intercepted the pass to end the game was Gerard Mayo. Yeah. I bumped the guy. I was playing defense a goddamn week. That's my talk. What was in there?

So but anyways so he said you want me to shut you shut and then it was just like two two fifteen year olders like just yelling shut the f up back and forth to each other. Then Bill came over and was like. I'll tell you right now, that was the brilliance of Billy O because he liked to fire guys up, and we all knew Tom liked to be fired up because we all know Tom plays better pissed off. Like that's the truth.

And there's a lot of those Jedi mind tricks that I think that happened over there to piss him off because he played better pissed off. Yeah. You know? We, it didn't, you know, you remember. And the next day, no one's like a two minute thing. It happens.

It happens. It was over. Game day is like a battle day. And I don't like making the comparison to the guys that do it, but you know, shit happens. Next day, you don't, you go, you see him at the coffee line. I, how was your, how's the wife? You don't even remember. You don't you go. You see him at the coffee line. I was your housewife. You don't even remember.

I remember. Right. Move on. They don't come tea kettle for nothing. And so that's the heat of battle. Heat of battle. And we love Billy. Oh, right after that episode, we did that.

He went out and had some big wins at Boston College. He did doing a great job doing a great job. He's converted us into Eagles fan. Hey, and hopefully he's getting the funding from the Pope yeah he was pretty coy about that but yeah I could see Catholics over there those rogues this shit a lot of money over there in IL baby oh I love when he came on too because we were like oh we got some timing he's an active head coach we're like okay let's try to fit me the timing and then like we were like done with the show and was like

I'm not done. You want a Randy Moss story? You want this story? Here's a story. Here's one I was like, oh, I was the best fucking Billy. Oh, it's best. He's so cool. Oh, we gotta get him back on It was cool to have him and Josh back like back to back. Yeah brought back a lot of cool memories Our next moment comes from a Vegas episode. Viva Las Vegas. Viva. We were in town for the Super Bowl, of course. And I had the pleasure of chopping it up with real deal Chiefs fan

and SNL vet Heidi Gardner. Boy, does she know ball. Certified ball knower. She is a ball knower. Those Chiefs, does she know ball certified ball nowhere. She is a ball nowhere in a real. Those chiefs, those chiefs fans, they know ball. Well, here's us talking about NFL locker rooms at halftime. Take a look. Would there ever be a player that took a shower at halftime?

Absolutely not. I used to think it was weird when guys would take their pads off. Some guys would take their pads off halftime. I like my stuff snug. You got the sweat. Would you eat it half time? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. You, there's always like pickles for the salt. Okay. So you retain water. They always have peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. That's a huge thing. Like, you know, as Travis with the Uncrustables, um, they'd have, sometimes

they'd have chicken broth if it was like a cold game. They'd have every kind of like power bar or protein bar or meal supplement bar. Yeah. Yeah, sometimes when it's like a high play first half, guys are kind of drained, usually in the heat. You got to take in calories, gives you a little more energy. Okay, cool. Pre-game shower? Oh, I shower like five, six times before a game.

Cause you, you know, you wake up. I like to wake up shower. I like, I like hot water on my face. That what helps me wake up. Then you hit the tubs, you know, warm up, do another shower. And then like you go do ball drills, this, that. I don't like the sweat. And then I'll do like another shower.

I'm a shower-er. I like five, six showers a day. Also day before the Super Bowl, you're not practicing, right? Like Friday is the last practice. Day before Super Bowl is usually a mental sharpening day. So it's kind of like your walk through your dress rehearsal. You know, each team, they're at a hotel.

So they'll probably clear out the ballroom. You have the whole hotel and you'll go through the whole script. So you go through first and second down, all your first and second down plays. You'll go through all your third down plays. You'll go through all your red area plays. You'll go through your two-point menu. You go through gotta-have-it plays just to get that mental rep.

So when it's game time, the more you know the material, the more you can be spontaneous with your play. Yeah. You know what I mean? That's when, like, instinctively things happen. That was awesome. Yeah. The showering question killed me. Does anybody take a shower at halftime?

Yeah, I don't know. I would have never thought to ask that. Never. That is insane. I would feel weird being clean in wet pads. I know. Kinda like when you get out of the pool in the shower, you don't wanna put your swim trunks back on.

Yeah. They're wet. It's weird. And then you gotta go play and execute. Great question though. Oh, and then she was asking about, you know, the Travis, the Uncrustables and the food, what's in there. I know the Patriots were not an uncrustables team

I've picked your brain about this we weren't we weren't an uncrustables team because they had show up in the server There was the recent survey that broke the internet. Yeah talking about how many uncrustables NFL teams consume, which is like It's like a you know, a small nation could eat that many they're delicious But I don't think they're really good for you We used to have like four different types of PB and J's lay them out for me We would have a gluten-free bread With an almond butter and a strawberry preserve, which was no added sugar lovely healthy You get that in peanut butter or almond butter depending if you wanted that on that bread you could change from white bread

There was also a multi-grain bread. And there was also like a fairly unhealthier version where they would use a regular jelly instead of like that preserve shit with either an almond butter or peanut butter. And then there was also a peanut butter, honey banana option. And there'd be all, they would cut them up, our little lunch ladies, they would make these,

and they would saran wrap them by halves. And you'd have labeling on every single one, and they'd work their tails off for that. And guys, and you had beautiful sections of different ones. You'd go and pick what you want. Was this an everyday thing or a game day thing? No, this was every day before practice, and then they had them in a half time and pre-game.

What an operation. Right before practice, usually, so guys could get a quick calorie, get some carbs, load up for practice. Cause it is a good well-rounded snack with carbohydrates, you know what I mean? For fuel. And then a little peanut butter gives you a little protein.

Which one are you grabbing? I'd always mix it up. I'd always go, like, I'd get the healthy gluten-free ones, and then I'd have like one multigrain, like I'd go, gluten-free, strawberry preserve, almond butter, two halves of those, and then I take a bite of a multigrain peanut butter and like grape jelly, like shitty grape jelly.

And I always like take a little chaser. Just chase. I like that. I want to eat the whole thing. Tom used to just eat his, he would never eat the crust. I remember that, I think. I think he would just eat the white part of it and he'd leave the crust. This is gluten free or is this like the. He used to have the gluten free ones, I believe.

Yay, we know our man Killitraev loves those uncrustables. Oh, who doesn't love them? If we had uncrustables, we'd eat them. I don't think I've ever had one. Everyone would eat them. I've never had one. People love them, it's just we didn't. But there's something about a homemade one.

That's why Mary Ann and all the ladies in the back. Appreciate you. Shout out. Our next moment is sponsored by Corvus Vodka. Oh, who could that be? Who's that? Shot o'clock, here's the story of Tylon negotiating his contract with Bill Belichick.

What's your best Bill Belichick story? All right. Look, Ty. Okay, okay, well you know what? All right, all right. Look, Ty. All right, so it was a situation where, you know, I was going through, you know, some contract, you know,

some contract stuff before and Bill was like, hey, we need to restructure your contract. And I was like, well, is this gonna be like an extension? You know what I mean? You just save some cap space or whatever. And I was like, you know, okay, but after we got it all down, I'm like, that's a fucking pay cut. What is this?

That ain't saving me no money. I don't even gotta send my agent this shit. You know what I mean? But then we went through it and then so he hits me and it was a good friend. You know, on the team I ain't gonna say no names. I can't put it out there like that. And he was like, hey, look, if you don't restructure this,

man, we gonna have to cut your boy. I was like, well, I guess he'll cut ass. I ain't giving you shit. You know, I'm like, that ain't happening. I said, I guess I gotta go tell my boy that, hey bro, hey man, get your neck, catch you before you see something like that. You know what I mean?

But it like, we were, but you know, but that's Bill being Bill and now that, so we end up working it out, our restructures. I said, look, I don't care about it. As long as I'm getting paid the same thing it is, cause I didn't call in and try to get no more money. And even though a lot of stuff got blown out of proportion. We worked it out I restructured my contract my dog was still there

You know what I mean, and you know we move on but all we had to do was just we didn't have to go through All that Oh Bill, but you check, you know You know, they try to do that and test your loyalty coach par sales tried me when I was a rookie But I like I like to say I'm a little bit of a different breed I got a mind of my own. So now they came in and put me at the end zone. The end zone was even better, but it was still shitty when you was there, right?

The end zone hotel. I lived there for a couple months, but when I came for my visit, it was myself, Curtis Martin, they ended up driving to both of us. You know how you just go on the business, they wanna talk to you, interview you, stuff like that. So Coach Parcells brought me into the office and said,

look, hey man, we like you, but we don't like who you got representing you. He's like, you know, those posting brothers, man. I said, I can't draft you with that. So I'm sitting there myself, you know, people had me project to go to the Detroit Lions at number, I think they had the 21st pick of the draft. And I'm sitting there like, you know what?

After what I seen, looking at Foxborough Stadium, seeing all these trailer parks up here and shit, I'm like, man. Okay, that'd make me keep my age even more. Cause I ain't, man, y'all, you couldn't even put me in a Marriott. Yeah. You couldn't put me, you know,

I'm thinking I'm about to go to the league, you know, risk all and get some room service and some shit like that, man. Bruh, I was not trying to come to the win just because of that, but when he told me that, but when he told me that, what he tried to do was get into, you know, a young guy's head, see what you think, that's the divide and conquer,

you know, mentality, saying that, you know, you might want to draft me. You know, I don't know that, but you think I'm gonna go and fire my agent just because of what you said, even if I had my agent and I'm with you and you don't wanna get the deal now, you need, no. That's not happening.

So my agent brought it up to Bill Parcells and Bill was like, well, I had to try. Because hey, you know what, and I got, you know, at that time, you know, I got a nice rookie deal, you know, which was I got this equivalent to like the 17th pick, even though I was a 23rd pick. And then, of course, when, you know, when it was time to, you know, really get paid, you know, I was for the highest paid

defensive back in the league. I mean, it's a production business. Exactly. Exactly. It's a production business. Yeah, exactly a production business exactly you get paid you get that production But that's funny that he tried to okie doke you oh you try to go me twice. That's the bill okie doke Yeah, let me give you one more. Let's hear it. Okay, since we are dead and everything gone now. So now now I had a in my contract. Wait, do we, do we, do we, do we shot a clock? Oh, you know what? Oh, god damn it, shot a clock. Shot a clock. Shot a clock. Shot a clock.

Shot a clock. Shot a clock. Shot a clock. Shot a clock. I mean, we're talking Bill, you gotta hear the booster. Yo, you gotta give us a shot. Oh yeah, I- Homegrown pineapple.

We about to mess with Bill a little bit. Let's go. Cheers. We love him. We love him. Oh, hell yeah. So let's go to Bill's ass, right? So-

Hey, is we drinking or thinking shit? All right, so Bill, I had a contract, so of course he came from the just side, and at the time, I was the only person on the roster that was still under Pete Carroll's contract. So I signed the big deal, I was with Pete. Pete really went to bat, and like I said, I earned my shit, but I was under that contract.

So you know how it is, they're looking to touch your contract once. Once they touch it, you can't touch it for the rest of the year, you know what I mean? They would try to avoid me like the place. So next to Drew, I was next. But they would go to everybody else because they knew, you know, at the time

that don't come mess with me about that shit. That's not happening. So anyway, I had a bonus in my contract where I get X amount of dollars if I come and make weight and I had a reporting bonus. So I had a reporting bonus. You know, I can say it now because it's like- Ty, you had a weight clause?

Huh? No, that's what's part of my reporting bonus. I gotta come on time, make weight, pass test yeah we all got that exactly I got a million dollars for mine though workout bonus million bucks no that was a reporting bonus my workout bonus was a hundred thousand you know so that's what the story just in case they catch you just in case they catch you they save a mill yeah yeah hey no you could do it yeah just in case that was gonna send up to come in and like I said, I was gonna pass the condition and test.

I don't give a damn if I had to sit in the sauna for 50 hours straight, I'm gonna get that damn bonus. You know what I mean? But it was 100,000. So, you know, when I came in and I got the, I came in and got my checks, you know what I mean? At the time, you know, you got direct deposit, but you get your receipt.

So I got one. I'm like, where my damn, where my other one? My little 100,000. So, yeah, of course I got one, I'm like, where my damn, where my other one, where my little 100,000 at? So, of course, you know, I go around, they say, I go upstairs, and they say, hey, you gotta go talk to Bill. I'm like, well, it's shit, okay, hey Bill. I'm missing the 100,000, and he's like, well,

he said, we didn't talk this year. I said, what you talking about? Because I went to Bob Kersey, you know, the great Bob Kersey Olympic gold medal winning coach. I trained with him, I never stayed in the off season for the program. So I got under my contract as long as it was approved by the head coach of GM, which it always was,

I get both checks. So he said, we didn't talk this year because we talked last year because he was fairly new to it and he Approved it was fine. So I'll just assume it's like that every year Yeah, I was I signed this shit when he was a jet you remember you was a jet when I signed this contract So when you came here it is we talked jet for you guys. That's a little child. Yes. Yes Or young in your

Exactly. That's in Florida. Yeah, exactly. So now I young in your profession. Exactly. That's in Florida, Todd. Yeah, exactly. So now, he's sitting there and is like, no, I'm like, Bill, man. All right. So I called my financial advisor. I was like, yo, did that million clear yet?

Oh, not yet. So I went out. I left and I came back. So Bill know me. So I'm coming back in and bearish. He was like, hey, he's in there. Bill had my contract sitting on. Bill had my contract sitting on, he had my contract sitting on his desk.

Laid out. Laid out, highlighted. He had the shit highlighted saying, hey, it has to be approved, da da da da language. I'm like, and it was always approved. You was a fucking jet. He said, well, Andy Wiserchuck is no longer GM, and I'm the head coach, and I say no.

So I was like, all right. I just took my ass to the locker room, got my stuff out the thing, and I walked on out. I was gone for three days. See, it wasn't no social media and all that stuff. So I was gone for three days, bro. And finally got the call, because they got a call USA,

and this is during training camp. But I know in training camp, you cannot find me more than $1,200 a day. So as far, it was $1,000 a day at the time. Yeah, it's like 20 now. Huh? It's like 20 grand. Oh yeah?

Unexcused absence. Keep going. Yeah, so it was like, no, it was at 5,000. Was it 5,000? Yeah, it was 5,000. So I said, as far as I'm concerned, I got 20 practices. I'll be back on day 21 to get that six million salary. I'll be back for that.

But if I'm gonna lose 100,000, I'm gonna lose this shit legit. So I was gone. You know what I mean? So eventually, Bears called me, got on the phone, bring your ass down here, da da da. All right. I said, Bill, want my money?

He said, you come down here, we talk about that shit later. So I go. Go to the principal's office. No, he said, no, exactly. He called the principal's office. So he told me to come to go to the game because we were playing down in Washington.

So you didn't practice all camp? No, I was gone for three days. I left. Oh, three days. Exactly, because guess what? Because guess what? The million cleared. Okay, okay. That was clear, that was The million cleared. Okay. That was clear. That was in the bank. So as far as I'm concerned, I got a hundred thousand

dollars right here that's out there and to me, where I come from, that's a lot of goddamn money. That's a lot of money anywhere. That's the kind that you don't get a financial advice. You get in a million but you keep a hundred thousand yourself. You know, do what you gotta do. That's the pocket change at that time. That's a lot of money. That's a lot of money, but two things. So like I said, where I come from, that's life changing. So for me, I was like, I'm not that guy. I'm gonna leave and I'll be back. But it also had the status of who I was too.

So I knew that as well. So do what you gotta do. So I left, he called me, get your ass on the plane. We go on the, I think it was Washington preseason. He didn't start me. He put me in with the goddamn scrubs, bro. Willie and everybody, hot dogs on the plane, we go on the, I think it was Washington pre-season, he didn't start me, he put me in with the goddamn scrubs, bro. Willie and everybody, hot dogs on sidelines,

laughing and shit. So he puts me in, so now all the guys on the other side, they really going, you know, they trying to make a team. Yeah, they trying to make a team. Yeah, they trying to make a team. Entire law. I'm getting cut and all that, like man, you know, Willie was clowning, laughing, right?

So he comes back in, next day he had to come in on Monday. I didn't even take my stuff off. I was at the table eating breakfast, still with my clothes on. You know, Bill came by with an envelope and he said it right to me. He's like, fuck an asshole. So I was like, open up the check.

85,000, dock me three days. Hey, man, bro. Freaking Bill. up check. Eighty five thousand dot me three days. Freaking bill. Hey, hey, hey, that's bill for you don't tie law. That was that was a he had the Nuthouse jumping. I know those talks with bill way too well. I don't envy you for those. I'm getting secondhand uncomfortability.

He knows what he's doing too. He just grabbed a raw handful of ChexMix. Just think about it. Corners you in the lunchroom. Yeah, just think about it. This guy's like a, this guy's been doing this for 40 years. He's like a 60 year old man. You're like 23 years old, just got out of college

and you're trying to get negotiating with the fucking guy that has done thousands of these contracts, just waiting for you to slip up. Hey, fuck the agent, we don't need the agent. Which I'm joking, I'm joking, I never said that. We'll be right back after this quick break. What's going on everybody, this is Justin Pennick from Jamboy Media, the host of the Football Today podcast alongside

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We talk about everything, we break it down. Stats, analytics, and of course Chris Rose is bringing his perspective on being a pro in the media world as well. Listen to football today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts, and you will be glad you did. Hope you could join us for the postseason run.

It's pretty crazy to think we had Ernie Adams on the show three times last year. He's a regular now. Unbelievable. Only behind Rob. Not just in Boston, but we also had him here in the Nuthouse West. Cross country trip. Erndog. He's a man. He is our guy.

Well, the smartest guy we know. One of the greatest player personnel guys. Low key. He wore so many hats, but here's Ernie's take on when the Patriots knew Tom Brady was going to be great. Do you remember the scouting process when you guys were scouting Brady? You know, really it was, yeah. The number one thing you want to see on a football player is what does he do in the games? I mean, it's, you know, that is, it's kind of a bottom line business.

And when you get somebody who goes in and plays well in the games, that's what gets your attention. And we had, you know, one person you never knew, great guy, Dick Rabine, was our quarterback coach who unfortunately died during training camp in 2001. Oh wow. And we got on a treadmill and had a heart issue and he died.

But you know, you get, you know, you look, don't try to make it too complicated. If a guy goes in the game against good competition and plays well, that is what we're trying to do. It's not about, you know, the combine stuff, which is important, but you's really what does the guy do when he gets out on the field against good competition? And so you get Brady Higg, have a great bowl game against Alabama and play well when you're in there. There's a lot of things as a

player you can't control, but what you can control is what you actually do when you get out on the field. He always used to talk about that. When did you know he was a killer? You know when I first, Tom's rookie year in 2000 he was like he was with a third string quarterback and he was not gonna get in the game. I mean you know unless you look if you have two guys get injured in the same game, he can get in, but it wasn't gonna happen. And after practice, he would go grab our young rookie tight end, Chris Eitzman, and take him over on the side

and make Chris run patterns for him. But it wasn't just running patterns. Tom wanted to call the play. It's third and six, all right, this is the play we're gonna run. Call it out, you know. Just Tom wanted to put himself through the situation. Here's the way I'm gonna call the play in this situation.

It's not just, let's just go run around and play catch. You know, we're actually thinking a game, thinking situations. And you know, and I always figured if a player was gonna stay out late after price somebody should you know honor him by going over and watching So I'm just standing watching this and this guy he's really trying to get ready to play Even though he has no chance of playing this week. And of course Tom's the guy Yeah, if he wanted to get in the right stance, how do you get in the right stance? You practice it in front of the mirror.

You just do, you know, being obsessive compulsive can get you in trouble sometimes, but it can also lead to great results. And that's the way I kind of look at that. Tom is the ultimate obsessive compulsive among players because he's not, you know, Tom Brady didn't just drop out of the sky a Hall of Fame quarterback. He made himself into a Hall of Fame quarterback.

And when people would tell me at the draft, yeah, I work hard as Brady, you're full of shit. You have no idea what you're talking about. And that's the... 100% correct. I mean, I got there, he already had three Super Bowls, and he was still flying in a coach week 11 to work on his little fundamentals after a practice

That's hey, but you know what if that was when he he was a four, you know that that's what people don't see They don't see they don't understand and that was kind of like when I was talking about being impressed with Peyton Manning warming up before The game. I'm when it's football now. I mean it's dead ass serious 100% every time. You don't take any plays off in practice. He never did. Never did. And you know what, if you ran him around, first time he'd say, hey Jules,

we really wanna do it this way, and then he expects you to get it right that second time. Hey, if you might not quite understand the first time, that's not a problem. Screwing up after he explained it to you, that's a problem. Put him in the hall. Put Ernie in the hall.

He's gotta be, right? Gotta be. I just watched that, I just saw another clip of him explaining his cards about the Malcolm Butler catch. Another one. I mean, we were practicing that days before. Win's your Super Bowls.

Win's your Super Bowls. Next up, Uncle T. Uncle T. My man, Uncle Ter. Here's the four-time Super Bowl champion talking about how heated practices got back in the day. Back in the diggity diggity day day. Why I didn't practice one day. I threw a pass and for some reason he mad at John Cobra or something.

He came through and he decked me, knocked me back over, asked Kettle, helmet flew off. Practice, practice. And we helmet, flew off. Practice. Practice. And we practiced in full pass. Yeah. I found the football and I got up, boom. I threw it, I tried to kill him.

Nobody, Chuck No, he said, probably he didn't mind it, but I have the shit knocked out of me. Boss pissed. He came over and I said, let me tell you something, mad dog. You may lose with me, but you'll never win without me. You got that? And I walked over a steaming. Took my helmet off. You all sit on your helmets in practice? And we did. Yeah, I sat on my helmet and I'm over there and I'm,

I'm mad because nobody got in a fight. Nobody fought for me. Maybe that's it He gave me shit. I don't know what I I'm over by myself And here comes mad dog he comes over and he kind of had that high pitch What was that? Yeah, give me that saying what was that saying? What are you talking about? You know what that saying you threw the ball what you said? What what was that? You said huh, and he had his tooth missing it I said, I don't know what you're talking about. You said something about we're going to win, may lose. I said, and I got to think of what did I say? And so he sat

down. Next thing I know, it's like, Hey, pull up a chair, pull up a helmet. So we started going, okay, you knocked me down. I got pissed. I hit you with the football you came at me I pointed at you and what did I say? He said something about you're gonna win With me. Oh No, no, no, you may lose with me. Yeah. Yeah, that's it Yeah, yeah, you're gonna lose with me. No, I'm not going to lose with you. You may lose with me. Then what? And it took us 30 minutes and we go, but you'll never win with that.

That's it. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, I liked that. I liked that. Well, I like it too. That's an original. Yeah. And to this day, that was always, of course he passed away. God bless him. Joe Green will say, well, I'm bomber. He said, you may lose with me, but you'll never win without me. And it kind of became the theme of their defense. They used to use it all the time.

You know what? Is that not football right there? Oh, so you guys get in a fight. Yeah. And then you guys hold it on that. Or no fight. Or you guys, there's something that happens. There's a disagreement.

That same thing happened to me and, uh, Gilmore. Remember Stefan Gilmore? We just signed him. We just signed him and I was pissed. They gave him $14 million. I'm over here. You know, we just want a Superbowl. We're on our second, you know, we got Superbowls like they paid this guy

$14 million, been routing them up. How many years? It was 14 a year. What? Yeah. When Stefan Gilmore came to the Pats, he was the highest paid corner, which he's a, he was a fucking stud and made me a lot better, but I was pissed the first day he came in. He was a Buffalo Bill.

You know, I wanted to show him first day of pads. This is how we fucking practice here. He kind of hems me up on a flag route. We get into it. I take his helmet off I start punching him Belichick goes you to get the fuck off the field hit the showers Really? So we have to his first day of pads. You gotta go shower with the guy. So it was the first fucking period Uncle Terry it was the first fucking period. Uncle Terry, it was the first period. I got a water hose outside. Watch. But just like you and your teammate,

you guys were we start walking back and we're pissed off at each other. And all of a sudden, you know, we get in the locker room and yeah, I'm sorry. Oh, sorry. Yeah. It's one of those things where when you go back out to practice, because they told us to get out, which it was the best. If I would have known that, I would have done that so many more times. Get out of practice training camp practice first day of pads. Get the fuck. I started doing that.

I got smartened up going up against the steel curtain every day in practice. Unbelievable. You may lose with me, but you'll never win without me. Terry put that on a bumper sticker. It was correct. A T-shirt. That is fucking awesome. He's he's such he's so good at storytelling and and sayings.

I aspire to be him. Terry's always got a good turn of phrase. Oh, he always. Oh, he was dropping serious knowledge in the Nuthouse. And the accent tops everything off. It does, it does. It's nothing like having a hillbilly accent. I think I've heard him call himself a hillbilly.

Oh, Terry will say it. I don't know, I'm pretty sure, but I mean, I think it makes you funnier. And Terry, people get the knock on Terry was because of his accent I think in the pros, but that's what I mean But in that they underestimated to underestimated him and look at him now. He's an American treasure. What a game Mac the reception Oh, that's a great episode. We can't do a best without including our old pal Robbie G Robbie G. Robbie G.

You know? Here's Gronk and I talking about Cam Chancellor and all those ferocious hits. Yeah, I remember that play. Everyone talks about a concussion. You got concussed in that play? Remember when they got hit by Cam Chancellor? That explains everything.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Jules, can you walk us through that play? Yeah I mean on the punt return before that I took a hip shot so I returned the punt we went into no huddle right away because we knew there was what seven minutes left and you know we kind of boosted the urgency we needed some kind of spark on offense a lot of times you get in no huddle, and it gets the offense going. You can move the ball, keeps one defense on the field.

You can get some plays called. So we went into no huddle, and then it was this third and 14, and I'm already fucking, my hip is tugging because I took a hit pointer on the punt return. So in between plays, it would be tugging, and then your adrenaline kicks in right before play. It was 10 F stock, I think it was triple F, triple in, which you got the in cut, the under.

We were flooding the zone, and I had the deep in on the back side. And you have a quarterback clock in your head when you're running routes, especially if you're running a deep route over the middle. Usually that ball's hit to you on the numbers, on an in-cut, because it's middle of the field close, meaning there's a middle field safety,

and that anytime you get past that, he gets involved, and that's when big hits come. So I'm running the route and I get to the top of the route I'm still running and I'm still running and so Tom he had to do something gets into the pocket steps up and it's late in my head so you know you're about to take a fucking hit so he zips it across the middle I'm probably halfway in between the field so you know there's a there's there's a shark lurking that's that middle field. So you know there's a shark lurking.

That's that middle field safety. So you better dig in, you better prepare for the hit. And that's why I brought it into the body and I clenched right before I hit it and Cam hit me. And it like hit me hard and I didn't know if I was down. I was good. I braced myself for the hit. So a lot of people think I was knocked out that play

because of how I tried to get up at the end, you know? But that's when the adrenaline kicked, my hip pulled. I tried to get up and my hip pulled. If anyone who's had a hip pointer, you had hip pointers? Ah. When you get that hip pointer, it singes on you and it pulls all those muscles in your hip. So like when the adrenaline's down,

that thing just starts singin' on me and I'm like oh! And everyone thinks I can't get up because I'm staggered because of the hit, which it was a fuckin' hit and I felt the hit. Don't get me wrong, Cam Chance is a fuckin' dog. But it was because of my hip and there was no concussion. So everyone out there, oh the concussion,

oh me, me, me, me. Nah dude, take a little teaspoon of cement, go up, you pick up your goddamn self. Oh, Matt. Yeah, toughness. Oh. Toughness, Rob. What's funny about that play

is when we were doing your documentary, we tried to license that footage for that, it's a big play, to get it into the NFL. There was no penalty call, there was nothing, there was no fine, anything. They weren't allowing. Legal play in the eyes of the NFL, we tried to license that footage for the documentary.

They go, no shot, that doesn't represent the NFL. So it was never in the movie. No flag, though. No fine. Wild. It didn't need a flag, it didn't need a fine. It was football. But then let me use it.

Let me use it. Let me give you the money and I'll put it in the movie. It's football. They said it didn't represent the NFL. That's a heck of a play by you. You were leveled by Kam Chancellor like that and to make that catch and to hold on to it, you know how hard that is. And I remember him grunting to he grunted when we when we hit,

you know, sometimes you hear something over here, something the guy goes. He's like, yeah, I was like Guy goes, he's like, I was like, I was like, I remember him going, I was like. Ouch. Still feeling it. I'm joking. It was my hip. My hip. NFL spotter. The rule came in place after that hit. I went cam on the show. So I mean, me too.

And how can we forget Nikki Glaser for stopping by Nikki? The old nuthouse, huh? I mean, here's us reminiscent of our Brady roast experiences. I've watched roasts for as long as they've been around. And they kind of like chilled for a while since this whole 22 and 20 and how the world has kind of changed with the world.

They're all too sensitive, yeah. And I felt like it kind of like, the roasts we were on, there was like no holding anyone back. That was wild. You know what I mean? Everyone was hitting every joke and it was kinda, it was like comedy was almost coming back.

I felt that too and I don't know that like, if we would have submitted that script of what it ended up being to Netflix prior, they would have been like, no, we're not letting you do this. Like, I'm sure Netflix perused what was going to be said, but they weren't really, I can't letting you do this. Like I, there was, I'm sure Netflix perused what was going to be said, but they weren't really, I can't imagine anyone green lighting

what was said that night. And even sitting there that night, I was thinking, oh man, tomorrow it's gonna be like, they went too hard. This was, you know, did they cross the line? Is this the end of roasts? Like, cause it was so harsh, but everyone seemed to just be like so excited about it that I could say.

There was not one headline of like, it's too far. Like not even one, and it was too far. It was offensive to me at times. It was great though, so fun. But it was great for us, the athletes, the civilians on the stage. When we went up there and when Kevin let it off, it was good to see Kevin, that was a teammate move.

He showed where the bar was set when he came out. Oh my God, such a teammate. And so it relieved me, he said, oh, he said that? I'm like, all right, I'm good, I'm good. What was the line he said that made you? There was the Brazilian Jiu Jitsu stuff, he was bringing it right away. Yes, you're right, he was showing you where the threshold was the Brazilian jujitsu stuff. Yeah. He was bringing it right away. Yes.

And you were showing you where the threshold was, where we're willing to go. Absolutely. I felt that way, too. Yeah. He was he was the best man. And just like commenting after everyone's set and like showing credit where it's due.

Like he was really a team player that night where on a night where it is competitive and comedians aren't usually that generous with each other of like giving each other accolades. and it was just, it just, it felt, but the roast is weird because you didn't know what other people were gonna say, what other jokes people were doing. None of us had any idea what the other people were doing.

So you're writing stuff being like, can I get away with, am I gonna be the only one who addresses this thing? And then when I heard you were doing an Aaron Hernandez joke, I was like, I guess it's on the table. That opened up a world to me. No. It's comedy. Of course it was jokes.

And you know, I think anything can be, jokes can be made about literally any topic. It's not like you're like making fun of the victim. Like there's a certain way that it shouldn't be done. And that's not the way it was done that night. It was really refreshing, but there was just like, I heard just like a hint that, or like someone said, yeah, you know, Julien is a, Erin Hernandez joke.

And I had been like, I can't do it because no one's gonna go there. And then it just was like, yes, hell yes. You killed so hard, man. Like I'm, we, a comedian should kill. Like, I should have done as well as I did, but like, there's no precedent for you doing that well, or Gronk doing that well.

It really was like, you all should have done as well as Randy did. Drew good, I like Drew. He likes you too, I think. Oh, and Drew killed, I'm sorry, I wanna include Drew in that too. Drew was amazing. He was the first one to go out.

So that's big ball. He killed and him just sipping that wine being so calm and cool. I mean, it makes sense why you guys kill because you are used to these high pressure situations. And maybe you would say that wouldn't have prepared you at all for that. But I think it has to. There's there's no way like how did all three of you kill like that? It just doesn't make sense.

You know, I can speak for myself and I wanna ask you about your preparation process after, but for me, we saw each other at the store and Jeff was awesome to let me do the back 10, 12 minutes of his set at the comedy store, which- Good for you doing that. I was so terrified. Of course.

I was shaking telling my jokes like this. And I could barely talk. Thank God there was like 15 frat dudes from Nebraska that knew who I was, that loved football. So I felt comfortable. But good for you for doing that because that's not easy to do and no one wants to go run their set around town.

But when I heard like, I go, where's Tom running his set? And they're like, he's just practicing it on his plane and stuff. Because obviously he can't go out to clubs, it makes sense. But I would be so scared to go do it for the first time without saying, because I went around a lot to clubs to run it, so good for you even going out the, how many nights did you go out and run it?

Just once. Just once? That one rep was everything for me because for you even going out the, how many minutes did you go out and run it? Just once. Just once? That one rep was everything for me, because then once we got to the roast, the only people that we really could see were people we knew. Yeah. You know, and yeah, you see Kim Kardashian, but like, yeah, whatever.

But like, I saw like coaches, I saw friends. So like, that made it more comfortable for me. Oh, that's good. Yeah. I wasn't looking past that. Okay. I, you, yeah that made it more comfortable for me. Oh, that's good, yeah. I wasn't looking past that. Okay, yeah, you destroyed it. It was fun. But then I think we all entered this part where we would get on stage, we'd be nervous,

and then the first laugh you get, you're calm. Yeah. And then you guys would lock into it and get excited about, oh my God, they don't even know what's coming up. Because I could see you guys, you and Gronk specifically, having jokes land and then getting this kind of like, oh yes, I got it, and then hitting the stride.

Because isn't it a great feeling to make people laugh and kill? I have so much respect for comics and the comedy life. I mean, I've gotten to know it a little through Sam Moreau because we started the show and Sam was one of the way photos. Oh yeah, yeah, that's right. I love Sam so much.

And so I would go hang out with him at the cellar and see all the other guys and kind of get a little in of how comics really are. Yeah. And you know, like. What's your take? Well, I think you guys are brilliant people. Like to be able to, like, like when you,

how you're impressed with play call remembering. Yeah. Like to be able to formulate a set and say a joke in the first five minutes and it's an hour long set, tell a bunch of stuff, like the story, the meet this, this, and then bring it back to someone. Call back to that, yeah.

Somewhere, like that's, that's like, that's talent. I can't write, I'm not a good English person, so. But you would be able to But you wrote some good English person Football fun It's you did you not have a moment during your set where you were like and I wrote that one was that you that was Rob I wrote a couple of your jokes though, right? Yeah, we wrote a couple. Which ones did you write? We wrote the Hernandez joke, didn't we?

They came with something in that premise. Similar and then you tweaked it. And then we tweaked it. Okay. So this is my writing room right here. Yeah. The brain trust. Yeah, okay.

We tapped Sam in a little bit too. We tapped in Sam. Sam was in there with us in the writing room. Oh, okay. Jeff helped us out, he was awesome. It is a team effort But we're collective. It is a team effort, I had a team as well too. You can't do it alone.

I'm not like her at this thing, so I had people help me. No, I had a team too, everyone does. I would basically, so how we did our jokes was, I would tell a bunch of stories to our room of things that I thought were funny. Yes. Like how it was in the locker room, or the shower thing, or you know, taking a piss

next to Gronk and like, because it was comedy every day when you go, when Gronk is around. I'd take a piss every day. Gronk would look over the stall and look at my dick and say like, man, you're looking good today. Like every day. Butt naked. Like, so like I would tell these stories and then we would formulate a joke joke they would formulate a joke Yeah, it was fun. It was it was it was so fun. It was were you nervous. Yeah, I was very nervous Yeah, I was like did it feel like Super Bowl nervous my first Super Bowl is probably similar because it's unknown but You know football is the same and I'm comfortable with the game and I was in the mindset

You know you do the same thing that got you there, you'll be all right. So you're nervous for a Super Bowl, but this is something that's like completely outside the comfort box. Like, I don't know, like, yeah. Did you say yes right away when they asked you or were you like, let me think about this?

I said no. You did. Yeah, I was like, no shot. And then what made you do it? The 100, I think a couple hundred grand or something. Okay, I know, it didn't hurt. I was like, all right, maybe I'll do it. Yeah, yeah.

But I was embarrassed, I was scared. Yeah. You know, like that's very. The relief when it was over. It was relief, but then it was also like I enjoyed it. Yeah, it was really, really fun. You know, we just did a live show in Boston. Oh yeah, I saw that at the Wilbur.

At the Wilbur. Yeah. Have you performed there? I've been there a lot. What a great room. Big room. Good job. It was so fun and like, I was less nervous for that

because of the roast, but I was still nervous for that, but I still had like, I had a rep at being in front of people. Yes. And even though it was completely different. I forget that you don't like talk in front of people often. But I'm it's a new world for me because this is like learning. Man, I think she was MVP of that whole thing. She was awesome. Greatest roaster.

Greatest roast set of all time. Midway through the set, Standing O had the forum like the roof was about to blow off. Electric. Good English person. Good English person. And the Golden Globes that's soon. January 7th coming up. January 7th next week. Go catch better.

Let's go Nicky. Let's go Nicky. We're team Nicky. We are. We'll be right back after this quick break. What's going on, everybody? This is Justin Pinnock from Jamboy Media, the host of the Football We'll be right back after this quick break. talking about the MVP race. Is Josh Allen gonna pull it out? Lamar Jackson? Can Saquon Barkley even break the rushing record? Can the Steelers keep up their momentum? We talk about everything. We break it down. Stats, analytics, and of course Chris Rose is bringing

his perspective on being a pro in the media world as well. Listen to football today on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts and you will be glad you did. Hope you could join us for the postseason run. Drew Bledsoe rolled up and boy, did he bring plenty of wine to break down the Brady roast. That's right. Here's us raking our top roasters. Got it.

I want to hear your guys' top five roasters from last night. Well Are we gonna include Tom no Tom's not top five. Yeah Mine is Tom. Mine is Tom. Let's be fucking Say he had the best joke of the night. Which one the I don't I'm gonna butcher it But the essentially Kim's worried because her kids are home That's pretty good. That was solid I didn't want to get in making out with your kids because I thought kids were off-limits Yeah, right. Yeah. No, that's yeah, that was that was the only rule. They told me yeah

No, okay. Well, obviously I'm not gonna make fun of Jack had a good kid. Yeah, I wanted to do a couple I want Thanks for stopping me All right, so I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna be nice and throw you in there jewels and I think you deserve it Nice, I thought you I thought you fucking crushed Nikki yeah, maybe MVP I dude she absolutely killed Tony Hinchcliffe. Joke per minute was high. And Schultz was good.

Schultz was Schultz was great. And he had and he had to and he had to back clean up, man. He had to. Yeah. Yeah. And he brought it home. He brought it home. And then I mean, Kevin's the host. So I don't get it. But he get in there. I guess he did do a set at the beginning, I guess, kind of.

I mean, he did. I mean, he set the stage. Yeah, no. Nothing was off limits. He let it rip. Yeah, no, yes, he did. Right away, I thought I was sitting there like, oh shit, he did that? Yeah, so, and again, I haven't watched this thing, but you were sitting closer to Tom. I've heard from a couple people

that he looked pretty damn uncomfortable at the start. Yeah, he was getting like, I love you from his like sisters and stuff like he's like Stay strong But I think I you know after a while, but I think but I think you're right I think Kevin set the bar that okay. This is where we're going. Yeah, and then you know I know how about you? I agree with everyone. I agree with, I also like, I liked Gronk. You know what?

Because the energy. Yeah. And like he, and I listened to Gronk, he was practicing his jokes. Well you can go Gronk instead of you, because I mean if you vote for yourself, that's fine. Well hold on, you gotta get Drew.

Yeah, Drew's no slouch either. Drew, you went up there and you set the stage with the glass wine, like a fucking what a debonair kind of person. Debonair. Debonair. Wasn't that the guy in Friday, Debonair? Very slave and deboner. Very slave and deboner when I walk up there. The the wife joke was pretty funny.

That was awesome. 28 years. 28 years. Mr. Short. The mirror act out with Tom doing the double. Oh, he for sure does that. He definitely does. I'm glad you called it out.

That one was not my joke. That one came from the writers, but it was like, first of all, it's a great plug for the winery. Amen. But then I was like, okay, yeah, it's a great plug for the winery. Amen. But then I was like, okay, yeah, I'm going to give him the old blue steel. You know, like, yeah.

Back when you were around, that one blue steel. Oh, dude, he was, yeah. That one blue steel when you were around, bubs, he used to steal chunk steel. So, Joe, who's your five? I got. Did if you don't kiss my ass a little bit, then I'm fucking walking off. So, yeah, I got blood. So thank you. Appreciate that.

I got so can you put mine as red, please? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'll go. Yours is red so I can see. And you got Gronk, too. Yeah. Yeah, you got Gronk. I liked I thought Nikki Glaser was fucking hilarious. She killed, she absolutely killed. I liked Schultz. The eight ring joke?

Yeah. So funny. And I also, I mean, obviously Jeff Ross crushed, but I also couldn't have put him in the host category a little bit, but you know. Jeff is a pro at it. It's expected. But he also he also has jokes that are great jokes that don't necessarily kill you.

Right. Like you didn't even know. He didn't like these people were killing people. Do I don't know. Yeah, I don't know what the fuck I did to Sam Jay. I do like to she got after me. Jesus, I forgot about. Oh, my God. Did she fucking buried me? We got to ask her about that. She hurt my feelings. Jesus. I forgot about. Oh, my God. She fucking buried me. We got to ask her about that. She hurt my feelings. I cried.

No, you did. I didn't cry. I'm killing. I'm kidding. And I like Tony. Oh, the. I caught a cut. Actually, I'm going Will Ferrell. Oh, heck yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, I love Will Ferrell. I can go up there and bomb. But as Ron Burgundy, I was I was just sitting there like it was a movie

Did he could literally walk out there as Ron burgundy and just stand there and I would probably laugh for five minutes I'm sure he he could have just went out there with no preparation Yeah, no, it was yeah, it's genius stuff So, you know, I will tell you the one thing one thing I was, and the whole thing, is I was really looking forward to Tom Sager and Bert Kreischer. And I thought they're set together. I was like, man, I don't, let these guys go. Like it was too scripted, man.

These guys are the friggin' funniest, friggin' dudes. So funny, and I felt like it was a little too scripted and set up between the two of them. I think they started running out of spots. Oh gotcha, so they had to do it. You know what I mean, because they started like Bill, Peyton.

Right. Like everyone starts coming. And I think they all came within like the last three or four days of, or committed. Right, all right, all right, bottom five? We'll keep it at a top five. Okay good. We'll keep it at a top five. Okay, good.

We'll keep it at a top five. Why don't we do maybe too far a joke of the night. Or a joke that was like- Too far of the joke. Kevin had a lot of those. Oh man, I'm trying to- You had a couple. I, I, um, okay, I'm trying to recall all of them.

The tight end hung joke? But, uh, no, I think the, uh, Antonio Brown bringing Giselle is his boss. That was, I was like, oh, Jesus. Because you know what I mean, we're sitting up there, right? And everything's funny, right? But you know there's gonna be cameras on us, right? That was one where I just went like,

mm-mm, no, I'm not laughing at that shit. I am not laughing at that shit. I'm like putting my head down and I'm. Yeah, that's what we got to rewatch it to see what our reactions. I hope I didn't fuck anything up. Yeah, but the other thing, though, they did. They did say because when they go back and like when they do the like the Comedy Central ones, I was talking to one of the producers.

They apparently those deals go like five hours, which I want to go to one of those. Also in the audience, but um, they cut it and then they edit it down to an hour. five hours, which I wanna go to one of those. I'll sit in the audience, but. And they cut it? Yeah, and then they edit it down to an hour. But then they'll go back and like, if you laugh at something in like the first five minutes. They'll take you for the 12th minute.

They'll put you back there. But yeah, I do wanna see some of the reactions. But how about you? Which joke was like on that line a little bit over. I mean Kev set the he set the stage when he started throwing up Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu right away. Yeah Yeah, I mean I was like yo, okay Here we go. I was so happy though because and it made my jokes not as bad. Yeah Thank you, thank you. Exactly, yeah, right, right.

The Dana White of Michael Vick of Humans was... That was great. Who was that? Dana White? I think that was Mickey Glazer. Oh yeah, that was a great one. No, what they call him, they called him the, like the next-gen skinhead,

because he found a way for immigrants to beat each other up. Or put immigrants in cages? Put immigrants in cages and beat each other up. Or put immigrants in cages. But immigrants in cages and within border patrol. Oh, my God. Yeah. We're still Brazilians that have their purse. Yes. Yeah. Oh, dude. Killed. Man, that was a fun night with Drew.

That was awesome. You got to have some. He was a good sport. He was a great big skin. You got to have some to see thick skin, you know, T H I C C. Double C. That's to see thick skin is facts. I'm really rolled up into the nut house fresh off around it. Riviera fresh off of Ryan. He came in here and brought the party.

Do you need some wing it? You and him throwing it in the back after just, he's just ripping it. So cool. Spiral had not lost any tightness. He hadn't lost any of it. Drew killed it. He was the man. You and him throwing it in the back after just he's just ripping it Not lost any tightness he hadn't lost any of it true killed it he was a man he's the killed it Okay What Matt light moment isn't just enough? Also from that light episode. Here's the story about Matt and

Bill's exchange of the famous email. The most treasured thing that I own in my life is an email exchange between Bill Belichick and I. You ever get an email from Bill Belichick? Ever, in your history of your career? You got a text message. Okay, but never an email. No.

I've never spoken to anybody that I've ever played with or came after me or before me that's ever received an email. Like, Bill doesn't do human stuff, right? Like that's like a that's like a like a human thing to do like send an email. Yeah, I got an email What does the email say? So I was a rep right and I was in Hawaii the way let me let me paint the picture for everyone out there light was a rep a union rep and

bill Took all the everything out on the reps because they represented the union and he hated like the time limits, like you guys figure it out, what this fucking shit. And he couldn't do anything to us because he had Vray-Bone myself, but I get home from Hawaii, long ass flight, Hawaii to Boston. Are you in Hawaii, Pro Bowl? It was, the union meetings were there. Oh. And so when I went, I was the guy that literally

got him changed. I passed the resolution saying, if I want to go to Hawaii, I'll go to Hawaii. I don't want to fly all the way to Hawaii. Why don't we do this in the States? We got all these, you know, and dude, I think half the island wanted to kill me. Because that was like big revenue. But anyway, now that we're here and we're there,

I get home and this is like way before, you know we live in this crazy time now where like we think it's always been the way it is. I mean, back up 10 years ago, man, I wasn't checking emails for my cell phone. Still don't. I had, of course you don't.

Makes sense. Yeah, but you've got somebody that will. Be low! Be low! Be low! I never know what she's doing back there. What is she doing? What does she do?

I don't know. So I get home and I got... I'm ProJay. I've got whatever it is, like Microsoft whatever, and I get all my thing and I'm checking my emails, and there's an email in my inbox, Bel Bella check comma bill. And I'm thinking to myself, you know what I thought immediately? Thank God. Finally one of my offensive linemen is busting my balls, all the stuff I've done and nobody's really come at me. And then when I read it,

I was like coping you son of a gun because he's the only one smart enough at the time that would have done this. So I spend all night, like I got home at like, let's say 10 30. And I missed the whole first week of the off season program. Cause cause I was at the meetings. I had to go. So the next, the next day was Monday. So I'm going to be jumping in a week late and I'm staying up to like one 30 in the morning and I finally find a service where I can send an email and

make it look like it came from someone else. And I'm, I know this is how Copen did it. So I write one to Copen. He spent six hours trying to find it. Forever, dude. Forever. But by the way, you know how it is, man. You find one and it says it works and you test it

and it doesn't work, you gotta pay for something. I'm like, this is stupid. Anyway, found one, sent Copen an email, walk in the next morning, and I'm ready to go toe to toe. But you know, I'm never gonna admit to shit. So when I walk past Copen, immediately he's like, you sent me an email, walk in the next morning, and I'm ready to go toe to toe, but you know I'm never gonna admit to shit. So when I walk past Cope and immediately he's like, you sent me an email, didn't you?

I'm like, did you send me an email? I'm like, what are you talking about? And he's like, you know what I'm talking about. I'm like, no, I don't know what you're talking about. Because he has to admit first what he did, and then, yeah, okay, let's talk about it, because that was pretty good, Cope. That was pretty good.

We go in, we get our workout done, and he doesn't bring it up anymore. And then he comes back to me, right when we get done working out, and he's like, hey, you did send me an email. I'm like, no, I didn't send you an email. He's like, well, that's great, because somebody sent me an email,

and this looks like something you would do. And I'm like, all right, well, if I get an email that looks like something you would do, I'll let you know, right? And now as I'm walking out, we get done running, right, and I'm walking out for the day, I can't shake it. I'm like, he's not messing around. So I see Bears, and I walk into his office, and I'm walking out for the day I can't shake it I'm like he's not messing around so I see Bears and I walk in his office and I'm like hey man because if it wasn't coping there's no one else

smart enough Bears must have sent it from Bill's email on behalf of someone else and the minute I say something to Bears he's like I know Bill sent you an email I'm like come on man not my first rodeo, right? He literally gets up, goes into Bill's office, he's in a staff meeting, gets his computer to fire up, and shows me in his outlook on the sent box the email to me.

And it's the email. And I'm like, immediately I'm like, oh, man, damn. Like that goes up a notch, right? What did the email say? I'll read it for you. It's literally my prized possession, yeah. So I get this and now I'm like, oh, this is legit. So I take like four or five days. Because you know me, I can't like not acknowledge this.

I have to have some kind of a response. So I send my response and immediately I get one back. And the essence of what he sent back was we're never gonna do this again number one because in the in the subject heading it was concluding remarks right no joke no joke concluding remarks and and and to this day and what he wrote in there I'm telling you this I could lose everything every Super Bowl ring I could care less man possessions like that mean nothing to me this if I hear the email you got to read it you got to read it getting there man takes me I got

big fat fingers so we've never had a conversation Bill Belichick and I never once spoken about this ever so I'm by way I never break this out it's one of these things that he kind of has to be in person, right? Okay, so here we go, here we go. Alright, so just so you can see this, Saturday, April 7th, 2007 at 2.34 p.m. Okay? So this is in undefeated season? Yeah, going into it, yeah.

Yeah, yeah. Let's hear it. Yeah. In the subject heading, greetings from the NEP off-season program. Exclamation point. All right. Oh, okay, here we go. In quotes, this is how it starts.

Not like, hey Matt, or just wanted to touch base with you, sir. It's a chance for us all to bond and start putting the wheels in motion for the following season, left tackle Matt Light said in a recent interview. The foundation is put in place at this time of year. What you do in March, April, May, and June,

what you do in that mini camp and the passing camp, it has a direct effect on the beginning of your season, and you have to come out of the gate swinging pretty hard, that's what we've been able to do around here, end of quote. Not bad. I mean, that's cool, eh? It's a good quote. Yeah, no kidding.

I got asked by a reporter in Hawaii about whatever, and I gave the typical, you know, do your job speech, right? Hey, Matt, just read this quote from you, dot dot dot, what the fuck, question mark. And by the way, so you see, like when I see this, like that's gotta be Copen. They're messing with me, that's not real.

And Bill doesn't send emails. We have over 50 guys here working out today and the one who isn't here does all the talking about how important the offseason is. Figures. A lot of your teammates were concerned about you and asked why you weren't here, but don't worry, we let them all know that you're in Hawaii for a week. If you want to get something productive done out there, why don't you have them move this meeting to the week before, all in caps, teams start their offseason programs? Very respectfully yours, Bill Belichick,

head coach, New England Patriots, okay? So when you got that, if you got that, you know that's not from Bill Belichick. All right, so we've been through this, you guys got the background. It took me days and I did elicit a little bit of help from a family member who's far smarter than me and I send him this.

Now, and again, I will say, my wife from day one always told me, he's gonna fire you. Like, please don't do that, Matt. Please don't leave here with that device. Don't put that on anyone's, you know, whatever. Don't shock, don't do what you're thinking about doing every single day, because that will get you fired. This one I did kind of think,

maybe I was gonna get fired. Coach B. I thought that was awesome. That was the way to go, right? First of think May was going to get fired. Coach B. I thought that was awesome. That was the way to go, right? First of all, allow me to apologize for not responding earlier to your prior email. It has been my experience, limited as it may be, that a reflexive response does not serve anyone well.

Thus, I felt it necessary to permit time to militate a more measured, philosophic response. As you are certainly better aware than anyone, we as human beings are not automatons. Rather, we stand as a compilation of free-willed rational beings. Given this, it becomes critical to impose a measure of collectivism for the benefit of the order. I realize that the concept of collectivism strikes a measure of aberrance in our rugged individualistic society, but it is such a collective good that allows us all to benefit.

And it does not require a study of the incunabulum to realize that both coaches and players gain from a measured collective relationship with the financial bully pulpit held by the owners. Given this, and despite my commitment to the off-season programs, I felt compelled to move forward the collective good of the players through attendance at the PA meetings. In the long run, it is generally for the benefit of all. My commitment to this end is in no way a negative reflection on my dedication and commitment to optimizing my personal performance to the greatest advantage of the team, your humble free-willed left tackle, Matt Light. Now that said, I figured

I covered all bases, right? And I'm good and I kind of got off my chest why I felt like I needed to be in attendance, right? Like it didn't seem like that big of a deal. I had no idea that this would be the response to that gibberish and I gotta tell you this is one of my favorite that gibberish. And I gotta tell you, this is one of my favorite things in life. Again, April 11th, 2007, 12.45 p.m., still like a midday email. Midday. Weird.

Concluding remarks. You're gonna love this. Matt, I need some time to let this one settle, but I'll start with this. Why don't you consider dedicating yourself to having fewer mistakes and not leading the team and once again being the most penalized player on offense? Your numerous false start penalties in evidence again at the Pro Bowl and other transgressions like

taunting continue to make me think that your distractions off the field affect your concentration on the field. My advice if you have an interest in improving your performance would be to minimize your distractions and focus on maximizing your physical development and technique in the off-season program. That one week really killed him. I continue to feel that you were totally out of line commenting on the importance of the program

when you were not in attendance with the rest of the team. Now this is when it gets great. Finally, Matt, there is no need to use multisyllable words in your email that neither you nor I know. I am unimpressed. This will conclude my email exchange and I will return to my efforts to try to do a better job in coaching this football team. As for the PA meetings, don't worry about helping me. As I have said many times, I remind myself the best thing we can do for ourselves

and our families is win, all in caps. Try to keep that in your mind, in your quest for world peace. Sincerely respect for yours, Bill Belichick, head coach, William & Beatrice. That's it, man. That's all I need in life. And we've never once acknowledged it.

Bill doesn't do human stuff. What a quote, What a quote. We're doing human stuff now. Real damn human. Instagram for crying out loud. Yeah, you see, he probably he probably doing this all in the grand scheme to prove fucking Matt Light wrong. They have an email 15 years from 15 years ago.

What? Do you have an email from three weeks ago? Probably. What do you what's that? What's that at like? It's not a hotmail. Is it at Patriots dot-com? What is it? What is bill Belichick at did you have your Patriots emails? I think so, but I didn't use it You had all that but you could change it. That's awesome. The mailroom was crazy, too No way. Oh like letters and stuff? Crazy. Fans sending in the wildest things? I remember when you were younger, you'd get a couple pieces of mail

and you'd be like, yeah, I'm making it. Sick. Sign a couple cards, give them back. Kevin Falk, when we were in the off season, I was recovering from some groin stuff, he would take his mail, and while he was getting treatment, he would sign his shit.

And give it to, you know, sign it. Multitasking? Multitask. I love it, Falk, beast. I also saw a man buy $5,000 worth of lottery tickets, scratchers, and scratched them while we were both rehabbing something. About $5,000 for scratches.

There's a lot of scratches. It's another Mat-Lev prank. Kevin Faulk. Oh, wait. Kevin Faulk did that? No, I forgot who it was. But I kind of know who it was. I'm not going to put him on blast.

Here's our last clip here. And one of the coolest things we've done on this show, go into the Hamptons and get into interview John Bon Jovi over those old giant stories and Super Bowl 25, the wide right. 25 sounds right. Yeah, wide right. 25, you're right, Kyler, you're right. Yeah, Super Bowl 25. Here's right. Kyler. Right. Yeah. Superbowl 25.

Here's the time. John Bon Jovi told us about taking a young Bill Belichick on tour. One of the relationships I, I'm so fascinated to hear about is with your relationship with the young nerdy Bill Belichick who's 30 years old at the time. Yeah. What was Bill like when he's not looked at like the Darth Vader? Look, and right, it's like I've only ever seen him on the other side, even when Mr. Craft,

who now is a dear, dear, dear friend of mine, he says, you don't even know the other side of Bill. I only got to see Bill when he would allow me to come to camp, right? Allow me to come to the games and all the access that I had. But after the small talk and the stuff, what I saw of his professional side stopped there. I was allowed to come to a meeting here and there,

whatever, right? But you know what, I mean, my professional relationship, the reason why I had access for so many years for so long with those people was because I knew when to leave the room. I knew. Yeah. I always knew to leave the room.

But going back to the fun young Bill Belichick with his first wife Debbie, who I knew very well back in, you know, the Giants and then in Cleveland and everywhere else where he went even to the Jets. He came on the road with us. Like few people know that he was a closet drummer and Tico gave him some lessons and we bought him a kit and he was trying to learn how to play the drums. Bill knows how to play the drums.

Well enough, yeah. Did Bill ever make it out to the China bar? I don't know if he fell and shaker or went to the China bar. But he would come on the road with us, especially in Europe where he could come and hang for a week at a time. You know, and we were playing this massive stadiums

and I had written a fan letter to Mick Jagger. And we were playing the same stadiums as the Stones. It was 95. And I said, one of the bucket list items is I want to open for the stones and the response was well You're playing the same venues and we certainly ain't going to pay you. We're the rolling stones. I don't want any money I'm asking for one thing. I want to photograph with the stones and bon jovi together and my son jesse in fact jesse was Three months old at the time and the stones went yeah cool. So we went I took bill

There are the stones head of security Three months old at the time. And the Stones went, yeah, cool. So we went. I took Bill. There, the Stones head of security. Oh my God, I gotta remember his name. I can picture him. This is a sin. Was a great college football player who could have been like a Hall of famer and Bill saw him and immediately went over to him and said, great to see you, blah, blah, blah,

because he played with Jack Ham and some of the great Pittsburgh Steelers and Belichick could now feel at home. And he was with us and he was backstage at the Rolling Stones. And so then we went with him, we took him to Paris and we took him to Italy and we took him all around with us. And he was just on the plane, but know, we took him to Paris and we took him to Italy and we took him, you know, all around with us.

And he was just on the plane, but getting to see him now in our environment. And that was all cool for those who don't believe those stories of that warm, wonderful side that I know of him is true. It is true. It's all true. Another beautiful anecdotal story is 96,

he was the D coordinator at the Pats. Pats are playing Green Bay in New Orleans on the Saturday afternoon walkthrough. Stadium was empty. I got to go to walkthrough. I walk through and Mr. Kraft comes over and he says tell me more about your friend. Bill? Yeah just tell me more about Bill and I start telling his family life is this like blah blah blah. I don't know if it resonated or not come 2000, but it may have, okay. I'll just leave it at that. We walked back to the hotel.

It wasn't as big a hoopla in 96 as it became by 2000 and then, you know, all the years of the pats and all this, we could walk back to the hotel. So we stopped at a bar on Saturday afternoon before the fucking Super Bowl We had a couple of those big sugary hurricane drinks Yeah, there was a picture on his desk until he left the office of us drunk on this curb in New Orleans the day before the Green Bay Pats Super Bowl. Wow.

Who says he's not that fun? He was a lot of fun. Who says he's not that fun? Sounds like fun to me. So it really wasn't, it wasn't Bill or Tom. It was John Bon Jovi. The secret sauce. Not at all.

Behind. No, no, no, no. The Patriots dynasty. No, the only thing that I want the world to know is that Belichick worked harder than anyone and he knows how to play as well as anyone. That's probably the bottom line. I mean, he's definitely, he's one of the most,

I always explain to people that he's not, usually football coaches are old football players. He's like a type of person that should be a military war general. Yeah, right. Or some kind of leader in a way bigger society type thing. Right. That became a football coach.

I understand that. You're right, he should have led armies or could have led armies. He could have. Yeah, or navies as I think there would be. He loves the navy, he's a big navy guy. I know that, I know that. Yeah, I think they would. He loves the Navy. He's a big Navy guy. I know that. I know that. Yeah, I think that that's a very good point. Drummer Bill. Who would have known? Dominic Belichick. I love it.

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