Games with Names - The Cam Jordan Flu Game with Cam Jordan | Week 13, 2019: Saints vs. Falcons

Episode Date: January 7, 2025

Cam Jordan is in studio! The Saints legend is in The Nuthouse to breakdown the 2019 Thanksgiving matchup between the New Orleans Saints and the Atlanta Falcons aka The Cam Jordan Flu Game. Cam joins us on the couch (2:05). We go back to November 2019 (37:42). We take a look at these rosters (1:02:56). We dive into the game (1:17:25). We score it (1:51:26). We wrap it up by hitting the ol' hotline (1:58:41).Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to Games of Names. I'm Julian Edelman and they're Jack and Kyler. And we're on a mission to find the greatest game of all time. And on today's episode, we are covering week 13 of the 2019 season between the Saints and Falcons on Thanksgiving with legendary host of the off the edge podcast cowbear legend Cam Jordan. Future Hall of Fame. Future Hall of Fame for sure. And we get into talking his massive four sack performance on Thanksgiving. I've gone out of my way to make it known.

I was going to get you and I got you. Jameis Winston stories, those are always fun. That's the guy you want in a bar fight. That's the guy you like, you always want in your corner. Then we get into talking his favorite QB to sack. I mean, he's got 118 sacks. Who's his favorite? One man holds that distinction.

Once he puts a little Gatorade towel on his head, stick a fork in him, he's done. You know, like... And then we wrap it up with hitting the old hotline. Those have been really fun. You guys are crazy. Oh, you guys are nuts. And also, we gotta get an age limit.

You gotta be this old to call that hotline. Yeah. You gotta stick around to the end. Let's go. Let's go. Games with names of production of iHeartRadio. Games with names of production of iHeartRadio. November 28th, 2019 Mercedes-Benz Stadium, Atlanta, Georgia.

It's Thanksgiving night. Saints vs. Falcons. But Cam Jordan is making the dirty bird look like leftover turkey. This is the Jordan flu game. Welcome to games with names on today's episode. We are looking at saints first Falcons week 13, Thanksgiving 2019 with legendary Saint himself, Cam Jordan. Now welcome to the NUT House in one sentence Cam, why this game? Complete domination. Domination.

You said one sentence, not one word. No, that was great. You'd be surprised at how many people don't listen to the one sentence rule and we get a fucking synopsis on everything But start to finish complete domination is a common scent right there. Mm-hmm We might have to we might have to scope your brain for that, you know Percentage eventually catch it now and not later because you know, apparently as we get older

It's it's not gonna work out well for us as football players. Yeah We'll leave that for the other podcasts. Is this the greatest game of all time? For me, absolutely. I felt like shit that game. I didn't recall someplace because I was like wheezing for breath. This is my flu game. This is an end.

And in the moments leading up to this game, I was like, I was like, come on, Michael Jordan did it. Can Jordan can do it like this? Everybody has a flu game. Nobody feels amazing 100% of the time. That game sticks out of my mind because I was like, bro, I can't breathe. I was shooting the inhaler on the sidelines, just trying to catch a breath.

And my coach was like, oh, you good? Hell yeah, I'm good. And then I turned to the side, I'm like, oh, oh, oh, oh. Big stuffy nose, shit dripping. I was like, I look disgusted. Yeah, isn't it something when you do something that's so hard that you thought was like not possible,

you were probably feeling like shit the night before. No doubt. You're fucking terrible. I've had games like that where I wasn't 100% physically there and I didn't think I was gonna be able to get through. And then you ball out, you do your thing, and it's like this little win that you feel for your confidence that goes so, so far.

Would you agree? Yeah, yeah, you go from like, you're like, I'm really like the best player on the field, and like, I just can't be a weakness, Cam. Like, don't be the weakness. And then somewhere in the game, you're like, no, I'm really him. Yeah. And like, you know, you go through those phases of like that insecurity level.

Yeah. I was like, all right, look, just because I'm not 100% doesn't mean that I can't be one of the best players on the field. So I am the best player on the field. Win, lose, or draw, they're not messing with me right now. Yeah. And you're looking over like, bro, chop Suey. Like, I'm going to destroy this kid.

Yeah. And that's what people don't realize, the insecurities that we do have as professional athletes, because you're in a league of its own. Everyone's on the A game all the time. Everyone's good. There's no Louisiana Lafayette of agricultural school, week four for an easy win. Everyone's getting paid and everyone knows how to ball. So you have this craziness that you feel

that you have to perform at a certain standard because we've been doing it our whole life. Which sometimes you gotta tap into other emotions to be able to fuel that. And these kinds of situations where you overcome having the flu, no one may know anything about it, but that's what makes us go, I feel. I was like, nobody cares.

No one cares. Like, if I'm gonna be like, yeah, coach, I got the flu. So you're good, right? Yeah, I'm good. You're good. Nobody, this isn't basketball. This isn't like, you know, like, oh, like, you don't have to play all the games.

No, like my teammates depend on me for all 17 of these mugs, and I wanna be there each and every time. How you holding up this season? Man, physically great. Physically great. Physically great. You're 14. Right.

Let's go. That's crazy. Right? That's hard. I mean, you know, they say, man, it goes by fast. Shit don't go by fast in this league. Yeah. Like I don't understand when people are like, man,

you're going to miss it when it's gone. That's why I'm enjoying it now. Yeah. I give everything that I can give because I can walk away from any one of these games and be happily done. Like, Cam, you'll never play another game. Cool, you know what I did?

While I was in his mug, I gave everything I could. You couldn't beat me, you can't outwork me. There's nothing in me that I haven't proven. So if the game is gone tomorrow, I gave it everything I had today. That's a way to do it. I don't have any regrets. I might always have regret like,

man, I feel like I could play one more. But everybody feels like that. Everybody doesn't want to give this game up. We've been playing it since we were 12, 13. For me, 13, and I didn't even like it at 13. So 14 for me. You know, pops dropped me off at 13 years old like, all right, this is what you're going to do now.

And I was like, nah, man, I'm a basketball player. And then, you know, it worked out really well for me. Yeah. Is this a close end soon? It's a basketball player. And then, you know, it worked out really well for me. Yeah. Is this, is the close end soon? It's not further than it is closer. You know, like, it could be, again,

it could be at the end of the season, it could be two years from now, but guess what it is? It's not another 14. Yeah. Closer to the end than you are at the beginning, bubs. Yeah. The moment you enter the league, they're trying to replace you.

Yeah. And like, when you're going through it, it doesn't feel like it's fast because you have so many different things that are going on in your career. So you're thinking about your production, you're thinking about the team, you're thinking about how you feel.

Like there's all these stresses that you go through that like when you're going through it, it's like, it's a long week. It's fucking hard, know but when you when you're out and you're done you'll look back and you'll say yeah the shit went fast that she went fast when you get out you do you say that but how many injuries did you have while you were in the league 14 right and you 12 also you could count each and every one of them you're like yeah you're like it goes by fast. Nah bro, rookie year I broke my hand, fourth year in,

I broke my back, spinal. Spinal. Spinal. That's what I'm saying, you know, you say whatever it is, like oh I had a scope, I'ma heal one year, I had plantar fasciitis this year. It's like I gauge all my stuff by like the injuries that I've had.

You know like, oh I broke a orbital bone against the Steelers like two, three years ago and they wouldn't let me play. And I was like, no, I'm playing. I finished the game. I could close my left eye and continue the game. It still ended up with a sack. Like it's not that I think I think a sack is an overrated stat, but like, you know, maybe it's over saturated, not overrated, but it's overrated. What do you think's better? TFL?

Playing the actual game. Playing the game. Because you know, we so... Playing the situation. Exactly. Winning the game is what's important. Some guys get so caught up and like I gotta get sacks, I gotta get sacks and we look at it like oh he's the best because he had 19 or 20 or 22 sacks but he's not worth a damn in the run. But we don't talk about it. He's the DPOY but he's a liability on the outside zone stretch plays. Yeah. And I'm like, I think how's he the best if all he's like, he's the best, but he swims B gaps and C gaps and like the linebackers hate him, but you'll never know it. He's the best, but he runs past the quarterback all the time

because he's trying to get around the hump. But he does 11 yard hump. He's playing the Marja Maxx and then he can run for 40 yards and it's man coverage and he that's his gap And it's third in in 12 and the team shouldn't fucking have any shot of getting that third down But you ran past the quarterback and so but you got to sack the play before right? You look at the stats. He's like he killed it. But my what else what else did he do for the game? What impact did he have on the game?

Did he wreck the ball? Is he a game wrecker? Absolutely. Strip, sack, fumble, nothing like it. Sack him out of field goal range, you deserve that play. But liability in all other phases, does that actually help your team win or now we're just praising you for the splash plays that you can't create. Ooh, I agree. I agree. It's a hot take that's gonna hurt some people's feelings, but. See, I played with the Patriots.

The Patriots don't play that shit. No, we played, we were always around very team first DNs. Where like, they had to sacrifice shit to be able to set that edge and that was like a known thing. A known thing. I've told guys that have came to our defense some years I'm like hey bro this is not you're not gonna like it here. Yeah. What do you mean I'm trying to win? I hear you but you're not gonna like it here like you there is no getting above the quarterback. You get above the you get at the quarterback and you work back.

You don't, oh, this is how I rush. Yeah, our coach ain't gonna put up with that shit. Yeah. Head coach, not D coordinate, head coach. Yeah, so how has that been this year, having a new head coach and going through that transition? You talking about, Darren Rizzi, man, that he comes in and interim head coach,

but you wouldn't really miss a beat. You'd probably say it's an uptick in terms of just getting out of that losing slump. I've never been in a losing slump to this magnitude. I think, you know, I've lost some games in my career, everybody does, but to lose seven straight, I don't think it had been done in Saints history since like 1980 something.

In my life, never. The Aints, they put the bags over their head. Man, seven games in. Hey, how do you like doing this media stuff? I feel like I've always sort of done it. Yeah, you've been in it. Yeah, like, you know, I probably started rookie year. Shout out to the momager Rebecca Otto,

you know know who's now just my manager she used to work back when we were with octagon we were working soup bowls for their free ski. Free ski. That's no money. Yeah when you're coming out of pocket to be like hit media row at soup bowl and I'm like I don't want to do this like I just want to party and then like angled in. Great foundations bro lead to lead to great things hopefully. Yeah. So, you know, six, seven Pro Bowls in, whatever that was, four Pro Bowls in, you start making some money.

You're like, this is nice for a change. Oh, yeah. You want to pay me to come on. I was going to talk shit anyway. So like, thank you for paying me to talk shit. Yeah. Now, what do you see yourself doing when your football chapter ends? Do you want to be an in-studio analyst?

Do you want to call play-by-play? Are you going to attack your podcast world more because that thing's growing already? That thing's huge. Are you going to act? You're a handsome fella. You know? You know, it's roughly handsome these days. You know, handsome dude. You's really handsome these days, you know

Handsome dude, you could be a handsome act like action star Maybe even throwing some drama in there and you could tell he's got some acting chops there What's going on in the world and please don't look up a to be moving here boy It's a trifling man, um that being said, you know, I've heard trifling you It's trifling, man. That being said, you know, I've heard trifling in years. Yeah, I mean, I've done I've done some some show work, you know. What do you like? I love I love life. That's just it. I don't have a target area of what I want to do. I've done analyst work in the XFL as well as sideline reporter,

sideline reporter, XFL, whatever, whatever the other league, the comparison league was before they merged, analysts worked there. I don't know why I slipped my mind, but. At the end of the day, if I'm gonna stay true to me and always be happy, I love being happy. I love when people around me are happy. Talking shit makes people happy. And when I say people, I'm people.

You know, I was gonna talk crap regardless. So if I'm- Yeah, joining is fun. Yeah, if Joss and folks, like if I'm out there with the fellas, we're gonna talk about it anyways. I'm literally just taking group chat talk to the world. You know, you've done so much and you know, and most importantly, you've balled. That's what people don't realize.

Like a lot of these guys now are trying to be famous. First. First over football, which you'll see how far that'll get you in your career as a football player and you'll see how doors close when you don't have success and you don't ball. Right. Because we're football players and that's how it is.

Keep the main thing the main thing. Keep the main thing the main thing. But you've done so many things and you've balled, like it'll be fun for you to get out and like get to express yourself in different ways and get to work and do like a good work day and you can be able to walk the next day. It's like, it's really cool.

I don't know if I agree with that. I love those games where you, you know, you're splitting double teams from a guard and tackle. You're making tackles in the backfield. You're hitting tight ends, just obliterating cats, right? And then you wake up, it's not the day after, it's the doms, it's delayed onset muscle soreness. You get that like Tuesday.

It's Tuesday, that you're like, no, it was good Monday. Okay, let's go. It's those days that you love. That's what I love about the game is when you're broken. It sounds like Chinatown when I get out of bed with all the fireworks. Firecrackers everywhere. I thought you said Chinatown. I was I was thinking fortune cookie. But OK, we were talking about the same thing.

Well, I got excited. I was like, oh, so your pops is a pro athlete. You grew up in Arizona. Take us back to young cam Jordan baby cam. You know, left high school like six, four, two 70. So six, four, two 70 reached high school status again. I took my whole playing like all my playing previous years in high school, you know, 285 to 293. Yeah. College. I got to like 300 when the when the bowl games, you know, when they just 293. Yeah, college I got to like 300.

One of them bowl games, you know, when they just like force feed you a pizza, I was Little Caesars downed one year. You know what I'm saying? Like we played Miami at the Emerald Bowl and they were like everywhere you turn, it'd be like, hey, take a hot and ready to go. Hell yeah, Will.

You know, that's college days. You're eating, if it's free, it's for me. Chick-fil-A, we used to have Chick-fil-a on our always. Coach loved that sweet tea. He's a southern guy. You get jugs of that sweet tea I'm like this guy's gonna have diabetes. That shit is sugar. All right so we talked about Young Cam. So born in Minnesota possibly for the Vikings 13 years left when I was like five to Arizona. 13 years left when I was like five to Arizona. Um, and yeah, young cam was, that was a tiring to be had. I was hooping, you know, just, just straight. You wanted to be a hooper. Absolutely. My game after Kevin Garnett, Kevin

Garnett, you know, I just went to all top elbow work. You throw me the post, but I was really trying to, you know, get my mid range, my middies going. Um, thought I was a point guard, you know, cause I was sort of shorter growing up. Had a major girls' sport between the eighth and ninth grade year. By then I was almost done with basketball. Just, you know, Pop saw the frame. Boy was like sitting eighth grade, probably like, I had a lose weight to play my first year Pop Warner. So let's call it five seven two oh five. Oh my God. You know, like a little meatball out Yeah. Out there rocking point, you know, eighth grade, out there bringing it down court.

I just didn't know that there was Zion's before, you know, Cam Jade. Like we didn't have anybody looking forward to, you know, like. Without a doubt. But yeah, 5'7 was not getting me anywhere. So Pop saw the frame, was like, look dude, your basketball like is, the heavier you get,

and you're gonna get heavier, basketball's not gonna be good to you. Yeah. I was's like yeah, but I'm a hooper dad like you know saying like you fillet I got I got it in the bag, you know and so The rule in the house was 13 you were able to play football and I was like, yeah I'm a forego that able to play football big Hooper over here pops So one day he just got fed up was like, yo, so here's your pads, here's this, this, this. Go practice, bro.

And I was like, I'm not going. And he's like, yeah, get out my car. So he dropped me off at practice, signed me up for the team, dropped me off at practice. Don't know, he was like, you know, he gave you the dad stop, right? Like, I don't wanna be that dad, but get out my car, go play football.

And I think, you know. First year you hated it, you said. Yeah, for sure. And then when did you find the love? Because I'm overly competitive and have been better than the talent around me for all my life. You know, like physically gifted enough to be like,

yeah, I may be short and fat, but I'm like, hella explosive. Yeah. You know? Was there a specific like time in high school when you were 14 bro. Probably a specific time that first year I was playing football. I was like halfway through the season and if you don't practice you don't play you know like you get the mandatory three plays and you're out. I'm like bro I'm doing all this work and I'm not getting I'm not getting anything from it like come to come Saturday

I'm just chilling for an hour. I said no this shit got to change so so to turn it on by end of the year whatever team captain you know but like Pop Warner you're just playing random positions linebacker safety whatever um get to high school and they you know you're if you're if you're any have any size guess we're going you're going to the trenches you're straight to the line and I was like nah, bro Like I was like, I'm like I can play safety even if not line To 275 570 or would which a little portly feller, you know I'm saying so as safety Imagine that a explosive now booming kids

Boomin look like Ronnie Lott back there. Oh big-ass pads on just uh man, so so you like, so you get to high school and go to the old line, by the end of freshman year, and I jumped now. I went from like five-seven to like six-one in a summer. Wow.

Like slipped the summer away. Next thing you know, I got high water jeans because I'm studly now. I'm like that weird skinny fat. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. The baby deer. Don't know where the body's going, but yeah, exactly. Have no glue out of walk, don't know where the body's going. But yeah, exactly.

Have no cool out of walk. Don't know how to use it yet. Gangly little bastard. All I did was like- Osgood slaughter right about to come cause your knees developed too quick. Got the little like, you know, the stretch marks on the back.

Cause the body was not expecting to be this. You know? So, office of line, end of the year, they like pulled me up to varsity and I'm like, all right, I'm Office of Alignment now. Like, it just is what it is. And just sort of did that. Did that for like two, three years.

I was like, I don't want to be Office of Alignment. The coach was like, you're our starting Office of Alignment. You're our left tackle. You're gonna go to league and do all these things, that left tackle. I was like, who the hell wants to be fattened? Like, I was like, all the other linemen are fat. I was like, nobody has ever once grown up in their lives.

We're like, you know what I want to be? This fat guy. I bet you the other linemen are fat. I was like, nobody has ever once grown up in their lives, been like, you know what I wanna be? This fat guy. I bet you the other fat guys do. Yeah, because that's all they could do. Like, you know, they knew they were slow. But here I was like doing all the defensive line drills and not getting any defensive line reps. I'm doing, I'm like, I really don't wanna be

offensive lineman, but I'm a starter. So, you know, I'm rocking the number 72. 72? Yeah, until, what was that, OC that rock 72? OC and then what Matt Light did for the Pats. There was nobody that was really rocking 72 as a defensive lineman that was cold. No, no, no, yes, yeah, no, no, no, defense.

Yeah, so- That's an O-line. Big O-line number. So we go to like a USC Sparks Elite camp or maybe it was a Nike camp, whichever that was. And they're like, it was like, hey, offensive lineman go left, defensive lineman go right. And I was like, hey, offensive lineman go left, defensive lineman go right.

And I was like, hell yeah, right we go. And you just went right first time. Right straight to it. We go to the little pods where you're 1 v 1, and I blow past these cats, right? And they're like three, four, five stars. What was your move when you were young? Swim.

It's always been an arm over. Whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop, whoop. Big over swim. And coaches hate it, right? You leave you exposed exposed if you're explosive and strong you can slap right there I need I needed all the acronyms that we have now now coach. I'm fast boy like yeah I need I needed those back then I was like, you know work and so I'm blowing past these cats, right? And so junior year get a taste of that defensive end life and never looked back senior year They're like cam you playing off as long as yeah, I got it I'll do that for the starting but I was like, taste of that defensive end life and never look back. Senior year, they're like, Cam, you playing offensive line?

I was like, yeah, I got it. I'll do that for the starting. But I was like, I'm a defensive end now. You gotta be twisted. These coaches coming in, my guy Mike Cavanaugh, who's now, I think he's O-line coach over at Oregon. But he was the O-line coach at Oregon State at the time. Was like, man, you could be an all-pro.

He's like, get down this, let's dance. He's like, you could be a Hall of Fame guard. And I was like, first of all, I was like, coach, you could be an all-pro. He's like, get down to the stands. He's like, you could be a Hall of Fame guard. And I was like, first of all, I was like, coach, hey, love you, love you as a guy. Probably still friends to this day, Mike Kavanaugh, great dude. Nah. The thing is, you probably could have been.

If you think about how good your feet are. Yeah, yeah. You could be a Hall of Fame guard. If you were 305. And would have woke up every morning disgusted with myself. Yeah, but how much do you weigh right now? 270 something. And you look, you don't look like you're 270.

No, no, no. So you add 20, if you add 20 pounds, every off season. See, this is because you want to act, bro. You don't want, you want that face to be skinny and you want to act. No, no, every off season. That's what it is, you're an actor. Every off season I get to about about 310 see and you how do you move it? How do you move it?

Well, and would you say at the beginning of this podcast life's about living in fun? Absolutely, and that's why I live it up in the offseason So when it's time to work if you're off it's alignment You could just live it up and oh, but just have to move it around Yeah But you know when you wake up in the morning, and like in the off season, and you hit that like side, huh? And you have a double roll there,

that doesn't make you happy as a person. You're like, oh man, I should probably worked out today. Now, if I was a normal person, the answer is no, I'm not gonna work out. But as a person who takes pride in being athletic, the worst compliment you can give like, oh man, he's got good feet for his size. For his size? You got good feet? No He's got good feet for his size for his size

Got good feet. No, I got good feet period period off the tackles guards. I'm like man. He moves really well for his size He's a fat bastard. Yeah, I want to see you on a ladder Working in my mind me and me a hot got the best feet in the game. You know saying Tight writer who has great feet? Not Lyman, just in general that you think. Comes to your head once, right now, boom. Marv Jones. Marv Jones.

For me, Jacoby Myers. I played with him and I just, he had really good feet. Great crossover. Do you think the basketball helped your moves? Because you're so fluid on the basketball. Yeah, absolutely not. No, it doesn't help you with your, no? I've been humbled a few times by my pops and friends

from highlights from like freshman year playing basketball. Humbled, in my mind, greatness. Again, five, seven, a six, one. Sort of like a fat, chubby, lanky, skinny guy. Body was very confused. What about this whole NFL, NBA player? Do you think you could go, you know? I became a better ball player as I got older.

Again, not slowed down, sped up, but the body caught up. Junior senior year, I'm running the body caught up. You know, like junior senior year, I'm running the open four track. You know, discus champion. The body came together. Now, if the NBA took seven guys, NFL took seven guys, played like a basketball thing, a football thing, and some track shit,

like a little. A little bit of everything. To Cathlon or something. Who's winning? Football. Best athletes on the field. Cause every football player grew up playing basketball. But not every basketball player grew up playing football.

Edge advantage. Every football player, every like real football player, at least like Arizona, California, Texas, you ran track. There's no option. Oregon. You get them undercovers up in Oregon. like real football player, at least like Arizona, California, Texas, you ran track. There's no option. Yeah. Oregon. You get them under covers up in Oregon. You get an undercover athletic athletes. Like sneaky, like bro, he's fast as hell. Because like they all grew up in like a track

circuit because normally your football coach is a track coach. You know, like you view it, it just is what it is. Basketball, guess what you've been doing your whole life. You're a singly focused basketball, travel ball, AAU ball, rec ball, YMCA ball, whatever ball. You've always just rotated basketball. Yeah. Not really like, so if you say, ooh, who's gonna win in that basketball event? It should be the basketball guys.

The skill level of basketball players is such a high level now. And they're tall. Man. They're all just trees. Man. Basketball guys are trees. Even they're tall. Man, they're all just trees. Man, basketball guys are trees. And even like the explosive ones, the John Walls, the Russell. Even the small ones are six three facts.

Steph Curry, six three. Cap, cap, full board. Six two. Yeah, Drew Brees is six foot. Yeah, sure. I'm five ten. Hey, whatever it says in the program, we're going with it. My program early in my career said six foot and they dropped to five ten.

Yeah they did. Nobody's stuff is six three. But that's what I'm saying. They're supposed to be, they are. Nobody's catching the likes of Denzel Ward. Nobody's catching Tyreek. I just had to ask. You know you brought in basketball. That sounds like a great pay-per-view event. I want to watch that. It sounds like it on paper.

And then you're going to see it, and be like, well, this is domination. And oh God, don't let one of them, don't let a few of the basketball players actually, or football players actually know basketball for real, for real. Then it's over. It's over.

Like, yeah, we all assume you dribble like miles, but he's explosive. Everyone in the comment section, let's see who you guys make the seven on seven team and then we'll come up and we'll find one that we agree with. I like this. Maybe two. I want to know who wins between the NBA players and NFL players on a hockey game. Neither.

That would look terrible. No, we might actually win that. We got way more white guys in football than they do in basketball. Hey, I can skate. I don't want to bring out white guys, but Wisconsin. Bro, Gronk's really good at hockey. I can believe that. From Buffalo. Man, Gronk on skates?

Jeez. He would look like Charles. Gronk looks like the guy who just walks around without the hockey stick. You know what I'm saying? Like he's there for the penalty box. At the end of the bench, just like, oh, you're going to come close. Pushing the boards, baby. Man, how was it growing up with a dad as a pro athlete? Did you feel pressured to live up to a standard?

Did he help you along the way? Did other kids fuck with you because you were a pro athlete's dad or son? Like, how was that? I mean, people don't realize that realize that's probably a little tough. Yeah, I mean yes and no. I mean you leave his primary place that he played in, right? Yeah. In a day and age where social media wasn't prevalent,

like once you get out of Minnesota, you sort of go back to a sense of normal. Yeah. You know, so my parents did a great job of sort of sheltering us from, you know, Pops being who he was until we were older. So it was probably high school where the guy was like man your dad was a pro bowler he was like oh yeah Pops just goes to work. Yeah and he did a phenomenal job of not like throwing his highlights

in our face you know. So realistically he groomed us to be athletes but you know you don't catch the cause and effects of like we couldn't go to dinner or like, you know, whatever it is. So like if you knew about them, you knew. So growing up in sports, coaches would be like, oh yeah, I know you're gonna be athlete cause your dad was an athlete. Yeah. So coach.

You know, like, you know, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you do. Yeah, you, there was a time in high school when my coach like drew up a play. It was like, hey Cam, you're tied in here. And I was like, all right, so who am I blocking? Cause I was so locked in on being off his line. I'm like, no, you're going to go at the top, hit the safety.

I was like, nah fam. He's like, you're going to turn around, the ball's going to be right there. I was like, I'm so Gucci. Like I was like, you're not going to peg me one to be a tight end and two, like I just want to hit somebody. Yeah. Hey. Yeah.

Like, like hitting people feels good. Pay good. I'm going to do that for a living. And you did it for a good living. Yeah. Hey. Like, like hitting people feels good, pay good. I'm gonna do that for a living. And you did it for a good living. Yeah. Like even you know, like I'm probably still probably top five. If you convert me to tight end, I probably still be top five in the position in terms of highest paid. Yeah, like, they don't make what a defensive lineman makes. No, they don't. Make a fraction. Yeah, like Travis

Kelsey probably means like 1920. That's a really good defensive end That's still a top five in our position. You guys are so rich Budge I was just thinking about that. Yeah, like you made this much money. I Mean this much. Yeah, who was the top defensive end getting paid right now? Like what? 34, 35 years? He... Million! Million? 14, yeah, Travis 14 a year.

He making money off that field though. Yeah, off the field. Yeah, he's back up to... He's got it. Yeah, he got that money on now. That Kelsey, that Kelsey last name and him and his brother winning the Super Bowl happened at the right time. Right time and...

And they rode that storm and now they're on the Swiftie storm, you know, like, and I hope that works out for him. Me too. We're rooting for you, Travis. I'm rooting that he falls in love and marries her and puts a baby in her immediately. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, like, good for him. I'm an elite kid. Oh, she's not bringing much to the pool genetically. Genetically speaking, like you've never been like, wow, she looks athletic.

No, she's tall it's pretty yes she's really talented like smart smart as hell boom there we go there we go genius brains don't really transfer down to the kid right yeah they could I don't know I had my parents weren't geniuses I'm not a genius so maybe you do get their parents' brains. How the hell did you end up in Cal? Potswain to Brown. Genius brains. You know, Potswain to Brown, his parents were teachers. And so education is not a game in our household.

So at 18, the rule in the house is you either go to the workforce, and it's OK to be a blue collar. You go to the workforce, but you got to figure out your life. You're not staying in the house. And then you either go to the workforce and it's okay to be blue collar. You go to the workforce, but you got to figure out your life. You're not staying in the house. And then you either go to college and if you get a scholarship, you get a car. So the options were, I mean, it came down to like, I loved U of A at the time. I liked ASU. Oregon State had a hell of a lot love for me.

Oregon didn't offer me till after I committed to Cal, bastards, I was where I was rocking Oregon gear like sophomore year heavy. I was like, soon as they offer, I'm committing. They never offered until it was too late. Yeah. So whatever offers were out there on the table. You like the Pac-10? I mean, come on, West Coast, best guy. I wanted to be in the Pac-10. I wanted to go to Cal.

Yeah. Like I would think like a Tennessee coach or something like that popped up and I was like, does it snow there? He's like, oh every now and again, I was like, you're not for me. I thrive in 110 degree weather. I won't thrive sub 75. Yeah. So yeah, whatever the colleges came down to, either way, pops was like, look, man, yeah, you scholarship, you get a car thinking like,, you know, mom said you're gonna hunt a CRV. And I'm like, I don't want a soccer mom van. Like, don't do this to me. You know, like, first of all problems, right?

You got to get a car. I had a, I was in my grandma's car rocking a, what was it like, a 1986 gold Bic. It didn't even have the U and a K in there. It was like B-I-C. Buick. Topped out at 65, rattling on the highway. The Sabre.

Yeah, so he's like, we'll get you the car. You know, we're looking at the best safety ratings. He's like, but. And he's like, he just like lowballed the offer, right? But look, man, you go to Cal, you call other coaches up, I'll get you the car that you want. And I was like, stupid 17-year-. And I was like, stupid 17 year old. I was like, a Dodge Charger?

And he was like, hey, it's there for you. So the biggest booster ever, Steve Jordan for Cal. That's how I went to Cal. Now, did Pops have some boys at Cal or what? No, it's just the education level there. It is the second best public university in the United.

Wait, excuse me, what? We are number one. You look that shit up. We are number one. I think it's second best. We are tied at times with something like Virginia and UCLA at times, but we're consistently number one. In fact, we're tied this year with, I believe,

UCLA or some, or Virginia, one of the two. Michigan's up there, UNC. Yeah, yeah, Michigan is definitely up there. Yeah, public. Michigan's three, it's looking like. Yeah, it's Michigan is Michigan. Michigan is definitely up there. Yeah, public. Michigan's three. It's looking like. Yeah, but it's not Cal. Texas. Cal and UCLA are like one a one b. It's showing. I was.

I said UCLA is number one. UVA. I said too. Yeah, but to be clear, when you see me, you see me. I used. All right. When I see you, I see Steve's Korean. A great spot, by the way. What used to be called the Asian ghetto, which is now I think turns to the multi-national whatever politically correct label that was.

Going to Cal, the Asian ghetto was fire. You had a little calzone spot. You had like these fire ass donuts like Kingpin's donuts or whatever that was. Steve's Korean was fire. What was it? Chicken bowl? Or it was the beef bowl? Yeah, I was like the short, the short beef bowl

with the kimchi on that joint, smacking. In the hot dog shop? What is it? No, you can have the glizzies. A top dog? A top dog. I was never a glizzy champion, but guys swore by it. It was good.

Something about a hot day and bratwurst in your mouth, then sit right with the kid. Nothing like a bratwurst in your own mouth Which takes us like derails us completely from whatever we're talking about You ever cross paths with Marshawn at Cal? Yeah, he came back Yeah, yeah, he came back like Probably no no never practice with us man first time I ever met Marshawn was coming, like he invited us out to the city

and he showed major love. And at the same time, he ran somebody off down the street, like whatever it was, like Marshawn, you know Marshawn, unbridled and unhinged every day of his life. He is my favorite guy. And I was like, bro. I'm from the Bay. So I'm from 30 minutes, 40 minutes south of Berkeley on the peninsula. Is that the Bay? In the Bay, yeah. Is that the Bay. So I'm from 30 minutes 40 minutes south of Berkeley on the Peninsula

Is that the Bay in the Bay? Yeah, is that the Bay? Oh, yeah. Well, our city is on the Bay. Okay You know people like I'm 30 minutes out from Oakland, but that didn't really be like inland Like you're not the Bay. Redwood City touched that Bay. You see that we're on that Bay I'm in full agreeance. Yeah so, but I had a hell of friends that went there to Berkeley, so I would go back. That's why I knew Steve's Korean. And I went to Juco, so I'd always visit my friends there. And the Marshawn stories are just priceless.

It was so fun. He put me on Patrinisi when I was 19. Patrinisi? Patron Hennessy. Patrinisi? Like that was like, it was like, once- That Patron. Yeah, like once he put us on that, like we took off with it. We were like, hey, dog, you ain't. Patrinicy? Like that was like it was like like once. Yeah. Like once he put us on that like we took off with it. We're like, hey, dog, you ain't on Patrinicy. You really

ain't trying to be beast. Right. Remember he got suspended. He went to Oakland and practiced with the kids. Yeah, that makes sense. He went to high school and practiced and there's literally he's still in the league and he's stiff arming. I fucking love Go Bears. I want them on here. Go Bears.

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That's Kevin Hart one and Rock. That was a solid movie. I saw you put Joker up there and I'm like, that's atrocious. Like don't. We'll talk about it. Let's go over here. Once we get there, we'll talk. Circles by Post Malone. That was his new album. With like his newer version stuff.

Post. Good guy. Awesome dude. It's like a really good guy. And like two interactions with him. And like every time I'm like I don't even drink beer and I drink a beer with him. You know what? I went out to Amsterdam after 18 Super Bowl we're no longer drinking beer no well we went and we saw a Post Malone concert and we played beer pong with him before the concert mm-hmm and it's exactly what you said he's just a dude you want to have a beer with he

put us on drums and shit. We were playing with them after the show, and I don't know how to play the drums or the guitar. And we're like strumming shit. And he's trying to like make us sound good and stuff. It was fucking he's such a cool dude. Yeah. Disney launches Disney Plus. Are you getting these fucking ads right now?

Then I'm getting ads on it right now. I'm ad free. I don't even. I thought I was too. I'm paying extra. We gotta figure that out. I don't know. My kids don't even know what ads look like. They see ads, they're like, Dad, it was taking so long. Look, you selfish little wonderful being you. You will sit here and enjoy what ... We didn't even know this movie was coming out. Just relax relax. Thanks Tide. Love it. Shout out

Lil' Ceasars. Like you know like enjoy this commercial. They have no clue what an ad is. I can't even know what ads are. It's crazy. I didn't think about that. They're just trying to get straight to their show. Dad, we love Paw Patrol. Bro, if you don't enjoy these good two minutes worth of commercials. I mean. We used to look forward to Super Bowl commercials and now you're just trying to skip it. No man, there's greatness sometimes. Ch-ch-ch-tia. I wanted that Chia pet so bad, watching fucking Hare Arnold or the little lights, remember those commercials?

Two rules, don't touch my mama, don't touch my Doritos. Come on, man. You know, it's... I'm not a Chia. All right, what's up with this Joker? Yeah, Joker becomes the first R-rated movie to earn over a billion dollars worldwide. Cause I usually see myself as a villain more than a hero.

Yeah. I love being a villain. I love being a defensive end. My greatest accomplishment is ruining your greatest dreams. Yeah. As a receiver, you want to catch a ball from where? A quarterback. And what do I do? Demolish the quarterback. My job is to make my job easier for my DBs, which means we go hand in hand.

I need to hit this quarterback. I need to disrupt this pass. I need to stop this run. I need to stop everybody's hopes and dreams. More touchdowns. That's my, I'm a dream crusher. So is that the Joker? So I look at Bain and I'm like, hell yeah.

I look at the Joker. You have no reason why Joker is such a twisted individual. I love the character of the Joker because you don't know his background story. The fact that Joaquin went ahead and gave him a background story, don't piss me off. Nobody asked you why. I loved Heath Ledger's Joker when he gave you three different stories of his origins

because I don't need the origin. My father came home from work and he asked. All that, I love menaces. Like Chauncey Gardner Johnson, Doocy, you know what I'm saying? I love that he's a menace. And I love guys that just like, you don't know why they're menace.

I didn't ask your background story. Don't give me a background story. This old sad story of, you know, trailer part. I didn't ask for it. And then you're dancing into it. And I'm like, don't belittle one of my guys. Like, do that to Mr. Freeze. You know, like, don't do it to the Joker.

The Penguin? Yeah. Are you watching The New Penguin? No. The New Penguin on HBO? I heard it's good. It's pretty good. So I might.

But I've also never took him serious as a villain. Like, your besties are penguins. It's an origin story of The Penguin, so you may hate it. No, but like, I'm cool with that because I never like really thought he was a villain anyways. He just wanted a better climate for his friends. Like he's really the homie.

But that's not the real penguin. Yeah. We'll see. The Batman forever, that's the one we're thinking about. Or no, Batman. Danny DeVito? Yeah, Danny DeVito. We just had him on here.

Yeah. Friends of the Shell. That's the penguin I identified with. But that's not the Yeah, friend of the show. Yeah. That's the Penguin Eye identify. I know. You know, like. But that's not the real Penguin, like, in, like, the comics. This is, I think, portrays more of the comic Oswald. I don't know. I agree with your take on Joker. Yeah, like, I just didn't ask.

So I'm not going to lie. I was happy the second one didn't do well. Yeah. I said, good, we can nip this in the bud. Because I don't want to know his origin story. And they're like, no, it's because. I didn't ask the because that's the whole point I think I like batman begins better Than dark knight. I'm i'm not i'm not averse to not loving anything. I love them all

I love them all too, but I love I love the robin patterson's joint because that's pretty good too underrated Yeah, he seemed unhinged the first scene of the subway. Yeah, he's beating the brakes off the off the enemies I was like I signed up for this. I like goth emo Gen Z Batman. Yeah, that's what that was. Yeah, absolutely I'm gonna look at him. He's not twinkling in the sunlight anymore. Nah skinny like the skinny hot guy Like that. Hey, that's that's this generation Batman. I like it Louis Vuitton buys Tiffany for 16 billion dollars. LVMH baby. That's crazy. Frozen 2, Ford vs Ferrari and Terminator Dark Fate were all popping off in the box office. Ford vs Ferrari was awesome. Hey, solid buy LVMH because the Tiffany collabs are crazy. Right now?

Yeah, the Tiffany, the Tiffany Nikes like come on. Air Force One Tiffany Jones, steep it, phenomenal buy. Don't know what it did financially speaking, but just for the culture, you know. I got a little Tiffany. Yeah, that's Tiffany's. Yeah, we know, you're rich. We get it. Yeah, my first and third ring were made by Tiffany

for Super Bowl. You wanna go put the white gloves on and bring it over? All right, let's go to sports. 2019-20 Super Bowl champions were them Kansas City Chiefs starting in this dynasty run. How about these guys? Damn dynasty. They're good.

I'm in the era, so I'm not enjoying it. Yeah. I want the Saints to win. I'm black and gold or nothing. So I'll sit here with nothing. Yeah. What was Cam Jordan like in 2019, 2020? You were, you had a-

Don't want to sh-teap it. Defense of the number one, Hemothy. Solid stretch, you know, just, cause again, cause like, you know, the world sees defensive ends as sack getters. So you have to get that accolade, but run stopping, passive deflections.

I think I had a triple double in one of those years. And every down, the end. Man, one that will play 90-something percent of the snaps. And every down, the end. Yeah, not the, oh, you gotta worry about him on the pass rush, no, like don't run to my side, shut down, oh, you're running opposite of me? Okay, I'll go play over there too.

He'll chase you down. Come get you, wherever you are, I'll find you. there too. He'll chase you down. Come get you wherever you are, I'll find you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Good times. Um, Gronkridge tired for the first time. Gronk, Andrew Lug, Julius Peppers, Shane Leckler, unbelievable player. Julius Peppers got his last jersey from his last game. Did you? Yeah. That's insane. I've never, like I've met plenty of famous people over the years and I've never once like stuttered or gotten awestruck and I feel like I've met a gambit of of really famous people. Yeah, Julius Peppers was my guy though Yeah, you know growing up it was it was the freak. It was Chris Dolman John Randall. Yeah, Javon Kershian

The freak is come on. He was for your nature Julius Peppers are one of them ones growing up You like he plays basketball and football UNC and he's not just a guy, he's the guy. You know, he's six foot seven, and he runs a four five at 300 pounds. You know, like, shit that you're supposed to be like, wow, Julius Peppers. You know, and so, met him younger at like Exos working out, and he had said some words to me, and I was like,

he was like, hey man, like your game. Thank you, sir. And I was like, and I was like appalled at the way I responded. And like dapped him up and walked off and was like, I'm a nerd. Like I was like, no way this dude thinks I'm a loser for sure. He was, he was that guy. That guy. He was that guy. That guy. I mean he was a phenomenon. I played against a lot of Heloti Nata.

I got hit real hard once and I was walking to their sideline and he's like, hey buddy, your sideline's that way. He pointed me in the direction of my sideline. So I loved Heloti Nata for that. You remember Walt Coleman? That ref? Down there? I try not to remember any refs.

I do not like- Jules asked us specifically to put ref headshots. Yeah, like I made fun of them enough to where I went to a pro bowl with like a ref styled shirt, like, hey, don't, you know, make calls. I like certain refs, but there's certain refs that the way they look, that's how they ref. And what is, how does he look? Blind, like 95% of them. I tried to offer a referee some money to start a fund for glasses

because I just assumed they're all blind. In fact, the NFL, I just feel like, you know, commissioner Goodell is 70. So he hires his friends that are 78, 79, people that he looked up to. Is he 70? Is Rod 70? He's probably 55, but you know, NFL stressors are real. Let's get that Linscrafters collab. Come on out.

Jeez. NFL stressors are real. Like, you know, he's the buffer between owners and players, so he catches from both sides. I get it. That's why he gets 50 something a year. As long as he keeps those owners happy. Zion Williams gets drafted number one. Overall,icans. You ever see him around town? Hell yeah. Good dude. Great, great kid. Great kid. Zion Wilson, dog, when he's healthy,

come on, complete game changer. You're always going to say I wish he was healthier more, but at the same time he's so explosive for his body size. Had he been like, I'd been 13 and Zion was in the league, I'd be like, oh, I'm a point guard. Like, point Zion, you know what I'm saying? What he does to the court is special by any and all means. His first few years, you're like, does he even know what a jumper looks like?

The answer is no, because he never needed it. They're dropping 38 on you, in the paint in your face. And he's only what he's six, seven, six, six. He's going to get seven footers and make it like he did. Bitching them like they're supposed to. Like he's in the in the paint. Yeah. That's on the drop step. Come here, big fella. Oh, you think you're big on bigger.

He'd be a hell of a tight end. No doubt with the shorts were riding up in the bubble. Like you remember that like shorts were disappearing in the- John Stockton's. The eyes like- Man. Yeah, the John Stockton's. His legs looked like they were warming his hands.

You know, like- Chafe, you know, sometimes you need some fire. Right. Beast. What's up with this Mickey Loomis, GM of you guys and the Pelicans? BGM? At a time he was. That's when he was very-

Well, how did- I have no idea how that works. How does that work? Collusion. Does he know both? 25. I have no idea how that works. How does that work? Collusion. Does he know both? Maybe. It didn't last long. So the answer, retrospect the answer is no.

But at the time, yeah, he was handling them both and got his eye on. Two is more a legend. How is that sports culture down in New Orleans? It's pretty cool. There is New Orleans Saints football. Then there's LSU. LSU.

And then there's probably Tulane. Tulane. Football. It's up there. UNO baseball. And probably the Pelicans. So what is UNO? Louisiana? UNO, University of New Orleans. Okay.

Solid baseball program. That's the only thing I think they're known for, but solid baseball program. Which you the only thing I think they're known for, but solid baseball program. Which you don't know until you get there. Yeah. So yeah, then Pelicans are down there, and I think that's probably why A.D. left. He wanted a culture that was cherished by the city and not felt like leftovers, as you should, and getting 140-M contracts, 100, 200 contracts. You probably want that from the city.

Got a sign though. Yeah. Now, do they still say Wodey? Wodey? Yeah, R-H. R-H? Yeah, Jits definitely not. The Young Guns definitely.

Y-Ns for show not. I had a couple New Orleans guys at my Juke Co. They always call me Wodey. Wodey? Hey Wodey, what's up Wodey. Hey Wodey, what's up Wodey? What's up Wodey? That's a juvenile type, that's juvie word. That's what I'm saying, you gotta hold that Wodey. Like, it's like, hey Wodey.

Yeah, yeah, hey Wodey. Aaron Donald wins Defensive Player of the Year. That dude's a monster. Muscle hamster. What do you think about him? He's a muscle hamster? Muscle hamster. He's a living unit, you know what I'm saying?

Just like a... Do you think he just sleeps on a treadmill just running for food for a sack or blow up I was gonna say he probably like sleeps in the weight room Yeah, like like the stories you hear about Aaron Donald like four-hour workouts And then he goes to like go run cuz he's just like I said bro what I said I can't even live for 30 minutes How do you live for four hours? Yeah, I hours? I'm a super set short, you know, short rep type guy. Minimum weight, not maximum weight. I live and die by running. I want my stamina to be high and strength to be okay. And Aaron Donald, I think his strength is unbridled, unhinged. You see him bench pressing like four or something, squatting six something

like mid season. Yeah. Aaron Donald doesn't go to the weight room. The weight room goes to Aaron Donald. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the weight room deserves Aaron Donald. Yeah. Let's jump into this game. Let's jump into this exciting Thanksgiving divisional rival. Turkey day, baby.

Jackie, bring down these Atlanta Falcons. Let's run through these Falcons real quick. Seven and nine, worst start in 16 seasons started one in seven finish strong though six and two okay this was the last full year of the Dan Quinn era this was Dirk Cutter leading the offense he's over there Boise State right now coaching up Ashton Gentia in the backfield there uh second straight losing season we love that also second straight year missing the playoffs this was Matt Ryan this was Devonta Freeman. This was Julio. Second year, Calvin Ridley. Austin Hooper was still down there.

Vic Beasley. Vic Beasley. The one you hit wonder. Oh, describe this. Clearly there's a lot of Atlanta hate. There's, yeah. Describe it. It's a good guy.

Look at Jules' shirt. Yeah. 28 to 3. I gave you 28 to 3. It's something that the Atlanta Falcons can't live down because of New Orleans. New Orleans mid game 10 years from now will still be like, oh man, I wonder what the score is. I bet you it's not 28 to 3.

They will never live that down. The NFC South has, everybody's like either gone to Super Bowl or won a Super Bowl, whatever it is. You know, Tampa's won Orleans, New Orleans has one. Panthers have made it to 2003. Yeah. And then, you know, we're going to go out the way to say you embarrassingly lost. As you should have, can't. So the Saints Falcons rivalries, real, that's the only one that matters.

This is your guys's number one hater. This is who, we hated, our rival was kind, well we didn't want to say rival. That's what I'm saying, do you guys, like other ones, like other conferences, no disrespect to other conferences. You'd be like, our rival was, Steelers will say like the Browns,

but they also hate the Ravens and they also hate the Seancey. Ours is. Too much shared hate. Ours is Boston. Boston, New York is a big rival. Yeah, but that's what I'm saying. But in all sports, you know, giants know the New York Jets. It's a lopsided, though, that it's tough to call it. Yeah, it wasn't like a rival.

It was more than it's not a rival. They're Super Bowl facts twice a year. Right. But they actually had our number for a couple of years when I was young. They beat us. We were 14 and two. We beat them in like week 17, blew their ass out. And it was when Rex Ryan in San Chito came to town. I remember the linebacker coming on after Bart Scott. Yeah, Bart Scott. Can't wait. Can't wait. Can't wait.

Can't wait. Can't wait. Can't wait. You know, there's some good shit. Yeah. Now you sack Matt Ryan 23 freaking times. Like, do you guys have conversa? Did you have all three kids pay for this paddock freaking times. Like, do you guys have conversation? Did he have all three kids? He probably paid for this paddock. You know what I mean? Before you ask that question.

Thank you, Matt. Did you know that's- He's always good at my cookout. That's an NFL record? You've sacked Matt Ryan more than anyone? Has he ever sacked a quarterback in history? I did not know that in the history of time that me and Matt Ryan's, you know,

our connection together is legendary. Now, I got a question though. Like, so he had three kids and twins during this section. Does he introduce kids to you when you're on the pile every fucking game, at least twice a game against him? No, it's probably the other way around. I'm like, hey man, I bought my kid new shoes, bro. Thank you.

Oh. You know, like, you helped put food on my table for a long time. Like I say, I see him every, you know, whatever Super Bowl he was over at CBS, saw him this past one, he like sacked me back. And I say, I see him, I see him every, you know, whatever super old he was over at CBS, saw him this past one. He like sacked me back. And I said, you deserve that. You know, like he's like he surprised like sacking from the from blindside. I said, is this what it feels like? Yeah. Oh, man.

And you deserve to get a lick back, you know, because I have I've gone out of my way to make it known I was going to get you and I got you. Is he your favorite quarterback to sack? No. Who is your favorite quarterback to sack? No. Who is your favorite? Cam Newton. Why Cam? Because Matt is like a consummate pro.

So he doesn't show you emotions. Like he like gets up and you know, he's, he was Boston college. So he really wasn't supposed to be in the league anyways. You know, so like, he's just like, he frustrated and he goes about his business. So what about Cam? What's Cam saying?

Come on, you know Cam. Cam's talking shit at the bottom of the pile. Cam, Cam starts off the warmups pre-games on the opposite team side. Like, you know, the big like, you know, look at me, I'm about to ruin y'all and he can ruin you. Yeah. You know, I'm gonna run over you.

I'm gonna run over your favorite linebacker and then hit the Superman on him and like bro and we're the same draft class so you're the richer cam like you know like there is. So what about Brady? What was Brady like? Nobody cares. Brady first of all quarterbacks live a really good life anyways. So like. No but but did you ever, did he ever say anything? Did any quarterback ever say anything at the bottom? Like, hey man, they just butter you up so you don't come hard? No, you know, Tom will get frustrated

and then start talking a little bit and like, that's how you know you've won. Yeah. You know, like once you can get a guy like Tom Brady start talking, you've won. He goes to the sideline and he like broke a surface and I was like, it's over for him. You know? And you guys had some epic battles. Yeah. So I was the one that went to his Tampa. Um, but

yeah, cam Newton, come on. He's complaining. He's doing all he's doing the most. He goes to the sideline pussy. And once he puts a little Gatorade towel on his head, stick a fork in them. He's done, you know, like, but that, but that's how you knew you won. Like, he didn't put the Gatorade tile on against Atlanta. He didn't put the or Denver or Denver. Yeah. Yeah. But like prime Cam Newton, there was nobody colder. No, nobody colder. Like he beat you with his feet, run you over, stiff arm. You also tosses sixty five off the back foot, flick of the wrist

to Steve Smith. Like he was a fun guy to play with during the game. Bro, there was, there was some, there was about a three year stretch where we were fighting somewhere, somewhere during that game. There was fights happening. Rowan Harper, Malcolm Jenkins fought Steve Smith. You know, that, that happened. I think a year later we got into it with big Mike Tolbert because Mike Tolbert should have been an all-pro guard but he was playing fullback and you know like then like

like a year later I think that final year later like Cam Newton like scored on scored on it. I don't even know what year that was. Curtis Lofton I think I pushed him or something like that because I hated it because he was about to you know huh Curtis like and I sort of like pushed him or something like that because I hated it because he was about to you know, huh Curtis like and I sort of like pushed him like walked off told but I think grabbed me Curtis loft in my linebacker the time comes grabs Tolbert and now we're in the fray right now And then like somebody else grabbed like try to grab CeeLo and I grab him we're pushing each other all the way back to the back of the thing She start fighting pushing whatever I was just pushes or there's no punches? No, punches are coming. It's close.

It's pushing, it's shit talking. And then I vividly remember, and I was on the end of this ass whooping now, vividly remember, I went to go turn around, push a tight end or somebody like that. I went to go shove him, whiff on the shelf. So now I'm in a very bad position, right? Hands on the ground, feet on the ground, knees might have touched earth, which you never want to be in, right? And all I hear is, this dude is unraveling combos unseen, right?

Just on the helmet. I'm like, damn, if I didn't have this helmet on, big L coming my way, right? Luckily he's a tight end, so he's probably not carrying much power to him. But like, I'm just hearing it in my helmet. I said, wow, that's why you don't shove. He's a tight end, so he's probably not carrying much power to him. But like, you just like I'm just hearing it in my helmet. Do do do do do do do do do. Wow. That's why you don't shove that. I always say if you're going to throw them, throw them.

And that's why that's why you wear your helmet. That's why you never take off your helmet. Jog to the sideline. I was like, see, I was like, hey, dog, he tagged your ass. And I was like, no, I heard did they really get kicked out? I heard. I might. Maybe I don't even know. Yeah, it might. Might be. If you look back, I got to look back at this one. Hey, if you see it, it's probably one of the rare blemishes that I like.

Can you be ever lost? Hell no. Well, if there was no helmet there, I probably would have lost that one. Yeah, that's I mean, like luckily he's a titan. So again, he's not bringing much power to the game. It's not like the old days were like, watch this. The meat and gronts were there and Craig Stevens were there. This is like...

We're going to have you narrate the fight when we put it on. We'll have to pay the NFL. I say something, he says something. Tober grabs me, CeeLo grabs him. It's going and popping. And I'm like, yeah, I'm going to push this guy out the way. And I miss the push. And all you hear is a hailstorm, a fury and fire.

Now, when you were playing the Atlanta Falcons, was there a specific lineman that you hated going against that you always went against? No, all fat people are the same. Dumb and slovenly, you know, it's not their fault. They're just herds. Cattle, I think I've been on record for calling them speed bumps.

I mean, their job is to slow you down. And in a housing residential area, a speed bump is supposed to slow you down. And in the housing residential area, a speed bump is supposed to slow you down. Their job is not to win. Their job is just delay you from your job. So does that mean the quarterback's a house? Yeah. You're trying to get that money out there, ain't you? Yeah. That's how you make a living.

So they're a speed bump. Yeah. Not the brightest, smartest people in the bunch. No matter if they're like astrophysicists, you know, it doesn't matter. In between the lines, them guys are like, which way did he go, George? You know, the center point tells them where to go. Usually on the line, like the tackles and guards still talking because they should know their assignment, but they're like, Mike, 53, 53, slide. And they're telling you exactly what they're going to do because, you know, they can chew bubblegum and walk at the same time that might just come on like so, you know half the time What protection you're getting?

I would say half, you know, like if they're a veteran group like, you know back when Jason Kelsey was leading them difficult the new kid Thanks, you know So, you know You just you just got to say thank you thankful for offensive lineman, you know, you just got to say thank you're thankful for offensive lineman. You know, every herd needs to be herded. Every herd needs to be herded. Yeah. And he's just a herd dog. Bex is like, he's always talking shit about offensive lineman. I am. If there's a bane to existence, shit about officer lineman i am i am if there's if there's a you know

obeying to existence is officer lineman and and some of my best friends are office of lineman hey shout out hey shout out to my dog toron arms and he's like bro we're really talented no you are i mean this you guys you guys go against each other that's what football is you're supposed to hate the other guy yeah i'm not i'm not supposed to like people i know i'll leave that to the kids born in 2000s to like everybody. Yeah. And value everybody's emotions and feelings. But the one guy you can like,

because you don't probably go against him, is like Julio Jones. You gotta respect him, or did you hate him? No, no, no. I respect players. I don't have to, I can hate the organization. Yeah, respect the hell out of, you know. All of them.

Yeah, whether that is, you know, Matt Ryan, Julio, Ronnie. Was there a time though when like Julio made a play against you guys, you're like, that's a bad man. Like almost every play, isn't that? Almost every Julio, he gets a, if you catch like, whatever it is, a screen, you'd be like, oh shit, we all gotta go. Like where everybody's taking angles, right?

Like we can't let him get to second level, he's gone. 50-50 ball, 80-20. You know, like 90-10. So you knew you had to get at Matt quick so he couldn't get it to Julio. Absolutely, and Z-Court needed to tell you, hey, you gotta get there. No matter who we had on him,

because we were going to double him. You know, guys like him, Calvin Johnson, I had to get corrected. My first couple years, because we beat Calvin Johnson in the Detroit Lions in the playoffs, in my mind, I had rewrote history. I was like, yeah, we beat the Bra we beat Calvin Johnson and the Detroit Lions in the playoffs in my mind I had rewrote history. I was like, yeah, we beat the brakes on Calvin Johnson I don't even remember him being that good. We locked his shit up and uh, my dog Malcolm Jenkins was like

What are you talking about, bro? We almost lost it. I was like, no He's like bro. He went for like 200 in like three Tuddy's. I was like no Whatever his stat line was I was like in my mind, he had like 17 yards. Like we destroyed him. It was completely wrong. And that's the arrogance of winning. Like when you win, you get a rewrite history. The spoils go to the victor.

That's the arrogance of win. I love that. All right, Jackie, let's jump on these New Orleans Saints. Let's go on the Saints, baby. This was a 13 and three season. We're in the Sean Payton era. Dennis Allen leading that defense started out hot seven and one. Drew Brees went down with a thumb injury in week two, battled through that. Teddy Two Gloves, baby. Teddy Two Gloves came in with five

and oh, as a starter. Isn't he a champion down in Florida somewhere right now? He's a head coach. Head coach. I think Teddy Two Gloves, the coach. Teddy Two two gloves. Real, you know, like came in, started spinning that thing. You just love to see it. And that was like confidence high. We started winning with backup quarterbacks. And you're like, yeah, you're like, it doesn't matter who's there. We winning this like Teddy Bridgewater, that guy. Is that because is that a lot of that with how Sean got you guys?

The defense was rolling in 2019. Think about that young Marcus Williams, Marshawn Lattimore, like, you know, that draft class you couldn't miss in that 2018, 2017 draft class. I think we hit everybody, you know, like just Ryan Ramshack came in. I think that year before it was like Ryan, Marshawn, whoever the linebacker was like, Stefan, Stefan Anthony, young AK. Like it was two years where they were just hitting

on draft picks. Now, do you ever get, I get kind of distracted by AK's grill. Like if I was a defensive guy, his smile is so nice. I would like it might get you in the eye. 2019 I think he went diamond yet. I think he was still rocking the double, the all gold grill. Yeah, he was gold still.

He was slugged up. Now are those come out? They come out. They're not permanent. They're not permanent. There's some guys putting permanent shit in there. There is. How do you eat with that?

I used to have some, I used to have bottoms now. Don't get me wrong. I had a grill. I got plenty. I used to have some, I used to have bottoms now. Don't get me wrong, I had a grill. I got plenty. I don't know how the fuck can you eat if you have it on like the full-time thing or like the little thing on your, you get the little diamond on your tooth. You see the... Yeah, that stays. That stays. That means you can't have no taffy. Or you can have it. You can not. Or you can have all the taffy. In my mind, diamonds is the hardest substance in this world, right? So like, you chew it through everything. It's the glue glue though the glue. I'm not worried about the dime that he's of I'm worried about the adhesive on the tooth. So you can't eat a Charleston chew

Forget. I mean sir, sir, who's eating Charleston chews anymore? I love Bostonians got it Fucking got the Boston baked beans, too That's my dad's favorite candy. Those are good. They were talking like, honestly, if you sprinkle those on some vanilla ice cream, elite. They are freaking good.

The red beans, right? Yeah. But I'm saying the Charleston Chew was just a wild throw out there like, you can't eat Charleston Chew. I was thinking like Laffy Taffy. Laffy Taffy. Yay. Now and later.

Mamba. Yeah, we on there. We're on the same page here. Is it true that the Browns accidentally called you during? It's not, yeah, that on there. We're on the same page here. Is it true that the Browns accidentally called you during... Yeah, that's factual. Bill Johnson was in the car when they called. During the draft?

After I got drafted. Yeah, because I went first day, Jordan Cameron, tight end, living a way better life than I am currently. It's fine. Why? You don't know? You better ask somebody. I don't know. All right, we'll talk about it. He's a pro bowler. He got paid and still is not the bread winner of his family currently. Oh. Think about that. Boom. Winner. What I hope for Travis Kelsey. Hello.

Original. Jordan Cam. Oh wow. Tiger bro. Hey, winner. He's with Elan Nordigen, bro. Tiger's old girl. Who? Tiger's old wife. No, no, his current wife. Yes. Jordan Cameron's current wife and baby mother. Mother of his children.

Yeah, sorry. I gotta put some respect on that. Was formerly Tiger's wife. Wow. So again, fortune's a mask. The more you know. Man, he's just winning. Shout out to Jordan Cameron.

Shout out. Now how'd that 2018 AFC title game fuel this season? 2018, was that the Rams? That was the Rams. Yeah. It was a three-year stretch of just all heartbreaks, bro. I know. And then the Miracle in Me. It's like, I've literally forgotten

about what years was rich and just go by the game. I was like, is that Rams? Or is that the first time we played Vikings?? Was that the first time we played Vikings? Was that the last time we played Vikings? Either way, like the disdain for referees, and in fact the entire NFL happened probably that year, 2018. You go play the Rams in a division title game and you lose the way you do.

Early hit on our receiver, face mask, helmet to helmet on Drew Brees, came up looking like Daffy Duck, like helmet was spinning. And like, you don't call that, it's crazy. T Lee was our receiver at the time, Tommy Lee got like fully blasted before he could catch the ball. And I was like, just call one. There's two, there's two, whatever, just call one, do half of your job, but of

course not. They were blind. You know, hence why I've tried to create a, you know, my next philanthropic effort is to get more glasses and LASIK involved. Hey, it's trying to help out man. One ref at a time. One ref at a time can make our game one game better at a time. Now, would you guys have beaten them had you won the Rams game? Beating the Patriots? For sure. Yeah, for sure. We were, cause you're supposed to.

Like you're supposed to have that unbridled confidence. Like in no way, shape or form will I ever acquiesce and be like, no, we would have lost to Tom Brady. Too mean. Our defense was clearly better and our offense was right there. We were like, we were better. I think we had a higher powered offense

and a better defense. So why wouldn't we have? We didn't think we were going to lose to the Rams. We were better. I think we had a higher powered offense and a better defense. So why wouldn't we have? We didn't think we were gonna lose to the Rams. We were beating like, we were winning this game. I'm just thinking about that PSA commercial for like, for $1 a day, you could help a referee with bad eyesight. We gotta, I think we gotta get a campaign going. LASIK?

Free. For one Instagram post, you can help a ref that needs. You think that with you and Ol Breeze and Swiss Army Knife, Taysom Hill and Young AK in a really good defense, would have beat the New England Patriots in the Super Bowl? Absolutely. There's not a... But that's all it is. It's a woulda, coulda, shoulda.

You know what you guys did? Win. Congrats. What was it like playing for Sean Payton? I'm changing the subject. Yeah, I mean, you clearly won. There's no point in talking about what could have happened. Sean Payton, come on, man. Sean is awesome.

Are you surprised that he's doing what he's doing in Denver? Having success? Yeah. No, he's a winner. Bro, like again, the arrogance of winning. Like you don't know if you can lose if you never lose. That's like saying, you know, every year for the last like two years, three years now, you look at the Kansas City Chiefs

and you hear media talk about, oh, they don't look as strong as they did in 20, oh, they're back to back football champions. Until they 20, oh, they're back-to-back football champions. Until they lose this thing, they've won this thing in their minds. When you don't know how to lose, then you don't worry about losing. Other teams are like, we gotta find a way to win.

And they're like, yeah, so we're gonna win. Just don't trick it off. Just make less mistakes. Yeah, so this is how we win, this is how we won, and this is how we'll continue winning. Sean Payton was great because that's exactly what he put on the board every week. He'd say, hey, these are the three things Yeah, this is how we win, this is how we won, this is how we'll continue winning. Sean Payton was great because that's exactly what he put on the board every week.

He'd say, hey, these are the three things that we need to win. Keys. Three key points would be force fumble here, this guy, they think he's all world, we're gonna take that away from him. They're gonna make them beat him any other way. And don't have this many penalties.

And that's how we win. And sure enough, we'd come in and he'd be like, this is how we won the game boom boom boom or like well we lost because out of these three key points we took x away we had more turnovers we lost the penalty game these penalties led to 90 something yards you know 97 yards equals ended up being seven points you know how much we lost by four you know like. You know, like, methodology wins. And he's a big, he's a big numbers guy, big stats guy. Like, percentage wise, this is where you come out with all that.

And when you have success that way, you fully buy in. Good coaches know how to simplify complex matter. Cause, you know, we are football guys. We're not fucking rocket scientists. So if you have a bunch of complex shit, you're trying to explain that to. Some of your best, some of your best players are single mind, like single focused,

single mindedly focused people. Like man, go quarterback, yeah. Yeah. Hey, drop the coverage, huh? Play man, yeah. You know what I mean? You simplify it. If you get guys on the same page, that's dropping the coverage. Huh? Play man. Yeah. You know what I mean? You simplify it. If you get guys on the same page, that's half the battle.

That's it. Yeah. That's half the battle. Drew Restore, anything? How was Drew as a- Drew was amazing, dude. Great leader. Just like the things that you think quarterbacks do,

that's what he did. You know, like he's the first one in, first one out. Absolutely. He always takes care of his body. He's got his body work. Absolutely. He's, even when he's the first one in first one out. Absolutely. He always takes care of his body. He's got his body work Absolutely. He's he even when he's not in he's still doing all the checks for sure even when he's not throwing cuz he's older or whatever It is he's still making all the checks. He's with the towel. He's out there that Prescott You know saying hip twist got him got him. He's calling things back. Even if he completes during practice

He like complete no deep ball to Mike Thomas or Trey Kwon or whoever it is at the time, big cook, Jerry Cook, right? And he's like, I didn't like that. He'd be like, bro, what is he looking at? You know, he's visualizing his success. But just the way that he took to the game, like you admired it. He had the same routine. He never got a routine. You knew what he was going to eat, you know, before game day.

Hotel one time tried to give him a mac and cheese knew what he was going to eat, you know, before game day. Hotel one time tried to give him mac and cheese or whatever, like chili mac, I think, was his big thing. And they like, oh, we caught the Drew, the Breeze chili mac, whatever it was, right? Beef noodles, weak marinara, and that was it, right? But they put hell of cheese on there. And Drew didn't eat cheese at the time or whatever it was. And he was like, no, I can't eat that. Like real specifically, like, no, I thank you for everything. But like, I can't eat that. I don't do this. And by the time he sat down, cheese was gone, name was gone. Fresh noodles was out. And I said, okay, the

Drew Brees way. The DB9, no TB12. That's the DB9 method right there. Yeah. He may not even eat gluten anymore, but at the time he was eating noodles, you know? Like that was the thing. He'd have a bowl and everybody knew about it. Wow. I was like, dang, I gotta get there,

but I'm a fat kid, so like. But you're not a fat kid, because that's a lineman, offensive lineman. No, no, that's an obese kid. So you're a fat kid, but the offensive lineman is an obese kid. Yeah, morbidly discussing individuals. I like big guys.

I like big guys. I love them too when they work for us. Before we move on to the game, in one sentence, how do you sum up this 2019 Saints team? Overly talented, underachieved. It's back to back 13 win seasons. Oh, that's an integrity answer. Should we hit this lead up?

Before we move on from this team, Dan Campbell was an assistant coach on this team. Yeah, he was a tight end coach, assistant head coach. I don't know the labels of that. Nobody knows who the assistant head coach is until it's time to be the assistant head coach. And then people get sometimes usurped. You know, like, oh, that's assistant head coach.

But when it's time to be the interim, you've seen guys like, maybe he's not the assistant coach. Well, how was Dan Campbell as a coach on staff? Come on. Did you know he was gonna be a good, could you tell he was gonna be a good head coach? Yeah. Yeah?

You know there's coaches you're like, man, like I'd play for him. Yeah, he's one of those. He's one of those. And I mean, that's, it looks like it. I think Aaron Glenn is next, the guy who's the DC over at Detroit. Oh yeah.

Like as a DB coach, as a secondary coach, you're like, dang bro, like one you got grit in the game, you got teeth in the game, you played the game at whatever level that was, you played in the NFL, so guys automatically take your word for Bible. And then, oh by the way, I got passion as well as I know how to relate. I'm not like a little weirdo, which I'm not going to call out head coaches that are weirdos, but you've seen them. Oh, we know.

Okay. Think about it. He's like, yo, the moment he came out with his statements of, I'm gonna bite guys off the like, I'm gonna crawl, bleed. I said, oh, the world may not love this, but the team is going to buy in. Yeah. Cause you know, the world again,

20, the 2000s are a different time. How could you say that? You want to hurt people? This is the NFL dog. Like this is, this is the last gladiator sport to me. Minus gladiator sport being MMA. Fighting and stuff. Actual fighting.

You know, like this isn't basketball. We're not here to be sensitive. Like those days, I have, you know, talked to myself about the way the game has gone. I'm like, I just wanna hit people. And now you have to worry about targeting. And if you're hurting somebody, did you ask permission to hit them?

You have to think before you put things have changed. Slowing guys down. Guys get frustrated on defense because you're like, bro all I did was put a shoulder into them. Bro that was a great hit. Oh I get it. It's constantly doing business with this flag and you're gonna get a fine for it. It's tough to be a defensive guy in this league right now. No doubt. You got wide receivers that know how to push off without getting caught and you got DBs that if they hold on it's a flag. So the world is telling you more touchdowns. The great corners know how to cheat, though. Absolutely. You know, that's that's the thing.

They just ain't they ain't Batman enough for it. You got to be in the shadows. You got to have some ninja to you. You got to have some. Oh, he was holding, but you ain't see it. You ain't see that little look he did. Exactly. Before we get into the game. How is it having the goddamn Superdome as a home field? I remember we went and played there in 2009 when you guys played won the Super Bowl. They had umbrellas and shit Yeah, it was fucking crazy those people are nuts Yeah, that's a fun environment the most bought in most bought in fan base like they it's a legacy story tradition of like because the team's not old enough to be like, oh like I don't remember when they started It's like oh my grandpa took me to my first game at such-and-such. Yeah, you know

My dad took me to the first game and we were at Tulane Stadium It's a lot of like legacy storied. I may only make X amount of dollars, but I know this much is going to my season tickets. Like, you know, it's that type of environment where they're so bought into the city. Crime goes down when we win. Like, you know, people like, people actually thank us for crime going down.

You go on a winning streak, nobody's shooting anybody. Nobody's stealing anything. Nobody's like breaking into cars. The moment we lose, and goes right back, New Orleans, you know, like New Orleans. A lot of gambling on those river boats. Hey, they got that Harris downtown, don't they? Yeah, yeah we do.

Here we go, baby. You gotta pay, when they lose, everyone that they ride so hard with the team, you gotta pay the river boat when they lose. So they gotta go hit a, gotta go hit a. Quick leg. Quick leg. Quick leg, you know what I mean? Now get right. You got to pay the river boat when they lose so they gotta go hit a gotta go hit a quick league They get right Jack and we open their game quick little lead up to this one just to put in context

Both teams had a week nine by each team met these guys met in week 10 the first time It was a a little bit of an upset down in the Superdome 26 to 9 Atlanta got him and Atlanta rushed for 143 yards, which was a bit surprising in this one. Then bounce back, Saints bounce back with two wins. Big ones. Over the Bucks in the Panthers, two division wins. So that's like four wins right there.

What's that, Matthews? Each division wins, counts as two wins. Yeah, it's like four wins. There we go. And then meet again three weeks later. So it's 18 days between meetings, which is kind of crazy. Those are always fun and kind of tricky. I mean, just bring relevancy.

I mean, that's pretty much what the Browns and Steelers is going to do. They just played Thursday, and then now they'll play two games from now. So let's call it about 18 days. I think we played the Jets three times. What was it like playing on Thanksgiving? It's Thanksgiving weekend.

Yeah, I buried the lead at Thanksgiving. Come on now. How was that? It was like a two year, like I had never played in Thanksgiving games until like there was like a two or three year stretch where we just had Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving, Thanksgiving. I was like, for me, big family event.

Like I look forward to Thanksgiving again. Fat kid, you know, like being in New Orleans, you get introduced to some things. Gumbo for Thanksgiving. Hey, mom may every occasionally make her own gumbo but it's not New Orleans gumbo. You know, so in this definitely not hitting Thanksgiving, you know, so now you got gumbo Thanksgiving hitting on everything. seafood stuffed

peppers, like seafood stuffing stuffed peppers. I don't I don't know if I can live without them now. I go out my way, like Thanksgiving, I hire people to bring, like, wifey can do whatever she needs to do. She's like, oh, I'ma try it. No, don't you try that. That is not in you. You're from California.

I'm not accepting. Where's the gumbo spot in New Orleans? There's a couple, like. What's your favorite though? Wakesha Riley, Duke Riley's mother. Shout out, Duke Riley. Duke Riley's mother, you know. He's from out there? Wakesha Riley, Duke Riley's mother. Shout out, Duke Riley. Duke Riley's mother. You know.

From out there? They are from out there. Them folks for sure. For sure West Bank type people. You know. You can barely understand how they're English, huh? No, they're good. It's the-

No, but some of those- Little platters. What is it? The Creole? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That Creole occasion? I wear them all. It's like French. It's that Bobby Boucher coat. Yes, it's yeah. The Creole Cajun? I wear them always like French. It's that Bobby Boucher coat shade.

Yes, it's exactly Bobby Boucher. That's what I think about. Yeah. First of all, coming from the West Coast, once an individual lacking melanin refers to themselves as coon asses, and I get a few, you're like, who the fuck? And they're like, no, coon asses, we're real Cajun out here. Say that, bro. Don't just throw coon into the sentence for no reason.

Like in my parts that's gonna get your ass whooped. What is that? Coon ass is just a real Cajun country bumpkin. I didn't know that. Like a hillbilly, right? Exactly. You're like, I was just a whole bunch of Coon asses. Really country people.

And the first time you hear that shit as a black man, it doesn't really sit well, you know? Hey, hey, hey. sit well, you know? Hey, hey, but so, you know, whatever. What I was talking about. I mean, you guys had the full back, Coon. Yeah. So that's probably.

Coon, weird time. So you know, when he first got to the team, we definitely had some words. And I was in Boston. Well, you know, it worked out well because he was in Wisconsin. Yeah. They were like, Coon, everybody was like, you know, it worked out well because he was in Wisconsin. Yeah. They were like, you know, they're like, everybody was like, you know,

you go down to New Orleans, it's not really hitting the same. Oh, oh my God. Is what it is. So either way, Waukesha Riley, she has her own catering company, catering food truck. She makes gumbo and has been making my gumbo for the last 13 years. Wow. Back when Duke Riley was a Jit, like high school, you know, like, hey man, you could be something. Look at you in the league now, seven years in, eight years

in, now we're in Miami. It's weird. Wow. Weird, you see kids grow up and be amazing. It's crazy seeing your kid, like guys that you play with. And you're looking at him like a man, but he's not like, you're like, oh, you're a little dude. Not even that though, now they're playing in the league. Looking at him like, he's supposed to be not like, like, oh, you little dude. Not even that though. Now they're playing in the league.

Looking at him like he's supposed to be, like, I remember you, like, braces on. Yeah, I remember you six years old. No tattoos, and now you're, I'm looking for space without tattoos. Yeah. Yeah. Let's jump into the game, Jack.

Let's do it. Don't get it twisted. This is the KM Jordan flu game, but Taysom Hill said, I'm trying to make a run for this and make this the Taysom Hill game. Starts this thing out with a block punt. New Orleans gets on the board first.

Then he gets a touchdown. The block punt touchdown. Seven nothing, baby. It was a little pitch, but a pitch pass pitch. Yeah, it counts as forward lateral. Counts for Drew Stats. Then we get a nice goal line stand at the end of the first quarter on fourth down. You guys had a few of those.

Wild, bro. The defense was flying around. What's your mindset going into a goal line stand? Just as a team defense, everyone do their fucking job or you have to get penetrate, what is it? Defend every blade. D-line coach Ryan Nielsen at the time, he had like the longest first finger ever. Like he wags his finger and that thing like,

the Kimbe finger. You know what I'm saying? Like, crazy on sound waves. But Ryan Nielsen, we defend every blade and it's a mentality that you took pride in. That year I think we had a couple like all the way, you know, either four downs before they barely get anything, before they kick a field goal or like full stops. So confidence high. It was like if they get even close to the red zone, Ben don't break and take over. And I think we showed it that game for sure.

They got into the red zone a few times, got them out the red zone, like whatever it was. Ben don't break and take over. And I think we showed it that game for sure. They got into the red zone a few times, got them out the red zone, like whatever it was. And once you get one, more is coming. Did you practice a lot of red area offense, red zone offense or defense? Yeah. Cause like a lot of great defenses,

what you always, what I always see, it's never about the yardage they give up. It's what you said, it's bend, don't break. Let these teams make their mistake. Let them go for long methodical drives then tighten up the defense in the red area, make them make the mistake holding the three, that's a win.

Exactly. You know what I mean? But you guys were fucking stopping guys on the goal line. They thought they could go it on you. And like proud of it too. Yeah. And like welcome them to the red zone low key like, oh yeah, like you can do, you have, your route tree is so extensive when you're 40

yards out. Come to that 15. Welcome to the low red zone, my boy. Things get real tight. Quarterbacks try to make the right decisions. You got a little bit more time. That's sack zone. And I used to tell the D-line, when they get to that 20 yard, that's where you make your

money now. That's sack zone. He's going to hold that ball for just a tick. Ain't no more three step outs. Now he's a, hey, do I go for the first down? Or hey, do I try and get this touchdown? No, I'm trying to draw somebody else in. You've read too long, my boy.

Like you gots to be more careful. Got it. And so then you know. Less space. Absolutely, less space. The worst thing that he can do is take a sack fumble or throw up interception. Tighter throws.

Don't lose the, in his mind, he's like, I can't lose these points. And I'm like, make them pay. So you had the flu this game. Yeah, man. That week, everybody sort of had like a little bug going on and I sort of caught it. And I was like, I was like, I was like, I don't get sick. Pre-COVID? Yeah, pre-COVID.

Okay. And there's some theory, like the conspiracy theorist that I became for a second was like, I'm not going to get COVID. I already had COVID. I probably had it that game, you know? Like, it was a year. COVID. Yeah, like, it definitely wasn't COVID.

I'm just going to lie. Had a whole fever, you know, runny nose, sinuses messed up. I'm sick as a dog. And I'm like, you know, coach was like, oh, you good? I was like, I'm playing, bro. Like, it's fine. I don't know how coach was like, oh, you good? I was like, I'm playing, bro. Like it's fine. I don't know how not to play, which is my problem. Now did you take an IV before?

Maybe. I'm not, I'm not a fan of IVs. Definitely not Sudafed before the game. Cause I'm like, I'm like, bro, I can't be drowsy. Like I'm not even. Sudafed gets you up. Yeah, but the night before, either way, drugs in the system, like my body overreacts to drugs. The only drugs I'm drinking even. She might get you up. Yeah, but the night before, either way, drugs in the system, my body overreacts to drugs.

The only drugs I'm drinking is alcohol. Vax. Drink my woes away. But when it comes down to the game, Mike Thomas, that's my dog, you know what I'm saying? Wide receiver, the guy, 2019, that guy. Had 140 catches or something. 149, set on the record.

Right, that guy. You gotta talk about that. 1, that guy 1500 yards and whatever is going he was going absolutely federal unreal. So he goes in and he like he like he's like knocks on the door drops drops on at the door and like text me was like hey bro got you this med ball and I was like I was like yo that's gonna that's gonna do a lot for you. I'm like nobody knows a med ball med ball to this day is because of Mike Thomas like one of my favorite drinks from Starbucks and everybody's like, nobody knows a med ball. Med ball to this day is because of Mike Thomas. Like one of my favorite drinks from Starbucks and everybody's like, oh, you got a Starbucks? I had no idea. I just go up there and say med ball. Coffee? Fruity? No, no, it's a tea. Broth? It's a tea. Yeah. I got to get on this wave. Yeah. It's some sort of tea. Maybe it's a lemon ginger tea. Maybe it's not. I don't know the health properties into it, but either way, he introduced me and it's never

left the system. You know, like, Super Bowl week, I live by Medball. Got it. It's jade citrus mint green tea, peach tranquility, herbal tea, hot water, steamed lemonade, and a hint of honey. Medball at Starbucks. So Mike Thomas drops off the Medball from Starbucks pregame to you. Yeah, night before. And then I go out and I think I walked back to Starbucks. I was like, what was that?

I think it made me feel sort of decent. And I walked to Starbucks that next morning to get one before the game. So you take med ball. Mike T drops off night before you go pregame hit med ball, drink med ball. And then all of a sudden, you're like, I'm out a fucking big day. No, you go go in and you're just you're literally just like, you know, like, I got to make this work. And in my mind, that's all I'm saying. I'm like, a fucking big day or what? No, you go in and you're literally just like, you know, like, all right, gotta make this work. And in my mind, that's all I'm saying,

I'm like, this is my flu game. Every great has a flu game. If you're trying to be great, like, you know, talk yourself into it. Every great has a flu game. It don't be no, boys stay home, men go to war. You know, like giving you every run the mill line.

Put the women and children to bed, let's go look for dinner, guys. Absolutely, hey, two years and two years come from Texas. Which one are you? I got horns on me. bed, let's go look for dinner guys. Absolutely, hey, two years ago, two years ago, I'm from Texas, which one are you? I got horns on me. Yeah, he's got horns. So going to that game and it was like, you know, coaches aware that I'm not feeling well and luckily he's from the old school where he doesn't give a damn anyways.

And we go out there, rock out. I'm like, bro, I don't know if I'm getting a sack today. Like I'm working, but I'm like, you know, you feel the stamina just leaving you mid play. Like everything feels heavy. Um, and get that first sack. And now you're vindicated right now. You're now you're in thirst mode. I'm like, bro, I'm sick. You can't even handle me. Now you're, you know, you're talking crazy. Now you got some adrenaline like you go to the sideline. I'm talking crazy to the office alignment, whatever it is. I'm telling, I'm telling straight up, I can't breathe and I'm about, I'm about to blow past you, you know, whatever that is. If there's sound bites to bro, I can't breathe. And I'm about to blow past you. You know, whatever that is.

If there's sound bites to this, it's gonna be some hot ones. And it's like, I know by the way, you can probably hear that I have no breath. Like, I can't hear ass, brother. Whatever that is, bro, we go into whatever, fourth quarter. I think I got two sacks at the time. And I'm like, yeah, I'm killing this dude.

I was like, close it out. And I'm like going in and out. Like, you know how like the lights start getting dimmer? Cause I'm gone now. He's a big fella now. Yeah, I've given you everything I had. A lot of energy spent. They're like, Cam, you want oxygen? And I was like, no, I'm not trying to get y'all sick, bro. I'm like, like I've had asthma all my life or whatever.

How many shots you take from the asthma? Exactly. I'm taking puffs and who knows? You know, who knows? That albuter're all kicking baby. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like big, big, like on the sideline. You good? Hell yeah. Go back out there, whatever, come back. Like it's bringing me back.

Like let's just, hopefully I didn't go for six pumps. Did you have a routine after the sack? Because you got four fucking sacks. So was there a routine with the inhaler? Like three, I'm gonna go, I got three one last time. No, no, no, it was literally like as needed, just whatever it was. I was fighting and I was creating like a folklore

in my head. Like after every like tackle or sack, I'm like, who can do it if it can't be you, bro? Like I'm third person in life. You gotta start writing. Yeah, getting a narrative as the story's being written. You need to write. Come to the big time players show up in big time moments and make big time plays for the big time

team. It's Thursday night football. Who are you like giving myself a deeper voice than what I have to give myself this energy right every little quote from every movie. Exactly what team what team? What team? Like in that moment, so fourth quarter comes around and I'm like, I'm like, yo, if you wanna be great, you have to show greatness. You know, like, again, if you would've tuned in,

I'm probably on the sideline talking to myself. Or like, as I'm in plays, I'm like, are you a bitch or are you a man? If you wanna be a bitch, go outside where all the other female dogs are. You know like just making up random shit to motivate myself and so sack number three or number one in the fourth quarter comes I'm like hell yeah but the game's not over. You gotta send the closer. Mario Rivera. Mario. He's telling his brain in his head Mario warm up in the bullpen.

Mario Rivera. And then you called him for that last drive after they got so they get on site. I get off that like I get off the third second again I'm like the game's over. I was like job well done. Like you know like like I was like I can get home and I can get right. Something to take the edge off. Right. It's like, they recover one. I'm like, Wilman, we're back in action. Like, like when I tell you the cheesiest lines were in my head, like the most bought in,

I think I've ever been to any one game. Cause you have to be so locked in. Cause again, my vision is getting, like you start off seeing everything, we're skewed vision now, right? Oxygen levels at a probably all time low. And I'm just like, like, you know, I'm bringing back like the eighties football

when you saw guys dragging cigarettes on the sideline. Like in my mind, I was like, I was the ultimate warrior. I was like, this is my moment. We go out there, I get a sack to close it out. And like, I don't even know if I celebrate it. I literally was just like, vindicated like, what can't I do? You needed some Theraflu and some Top Ramen.

Man. It's a turkey. Man, bro, like we go to eat this turkey and I'm like, I'm running and you can hear me panting. Like, how does it feel to win the game? We're better than them. Is that what you said?

You look it up. Who knows? I'm talking high level trash. You know, that's all that matters. High level trash. How satisfying is it to go out sick all week? Quick week? Not even sick all week.

Quick, not even sick all week and literally like Friday Friday. You're like, yeah, this is where I'm supposed to enter, enter, like feeling great. And you know, technically Tuesday. Yeah. So Tuesday, we're going to be Tuesday, Friday. Right. So it's a quick week, which are already hard weeks. That's what people don't realize. It's tough for the by those quick Thursday night games, especially as a veteran middle of the season Quick week fucking sick Thanksgiving holiday there's excitement, but there's also family shit

You're dealing with you guys how many people are gonna be at the fucking dinner when you fly in wins the dinner Who's coming a lot of politics? Then you go out you fucking win a game with four sacks Division rival like that had to be the best Thanksgiving ever. Yeah, solid, solid. I don't recall the last of it all because again, I was in low oxygen mode. I had been deprived of oxygen for a minute.

Did you eat Thanksgiving after that? Probably not, I don't recall. There's another member. That was my highlight there. That was it for me. Again, the self narration of it all, got me through the game. Like at one point in time, again,

and now I'm telling everybody, I was like, oh yeah, and I had the flu. Like on the bus, like they couldn't stop me. Now Matt Ryan has the flu. Matt gives it to everybody. I wanna go look back and see if he got sick next week. Cause you sacked him so many times. Sacked him and laid there and was like.

Taysom Hill blocks a kick, scores a touchdown, has a couple passes. Two TDs in the first half. This guy, like what can't he do? Is he a fun teammate to be around? He's probably a great dude. Yeah, I mean, you know, he's a BYU guy. BYU guy, great guy.

Says it all. Yeah, phenomenal person. No caffeine. No, anything that makes life happy. Right? No caffeine. Like he gets high off life. Is he Mormon? He's Mormon. Stormin' baby. That's right. Absolutely. BYU Cougar. These kids now are just like BYU kids. You know, they get to league at 27. These COVID year babies, they're like 26 year old rookies and whatnot 25 26 like the BYE guys after they go to BYU they yeah they go they go have a kid that they never talk about and then off their mission

and they come back and get married immediately in my mind there's there's just it's impossible like you know no like i get it there's you can't tell me he went two years and he was in australia for two years there's probably an Aussie Taysom Hill out there that will never be discovered. Except he's going to be phenomenal at rugby on the pitch. Crikey, mate. No doubt. Look at this winger. He's 238 pounds and he can run a 4-4, mate.

Kind of looks like that football guy from the United States. Mate, he can do it all. He's drop kicking, he's running guys, have you seen his spiral? It's so tight. It's bloody out of control. But at the same time, this is also Taysom Hill who like blushes when we talk about like the things we do to our women. So no, you're like, man, yeah, like, you know, I was holding my wife's hand last night.

You know, like, B, like, you know, I was holding my wife's hand last night. You know, like, BYU guys, you know? That's all. He's got to have one of those. Pure carnival. He got to sprinkle a couple of those guys in the locker room. It's good for the camaraderie. It's good for the camaraderie. It's good for the camaraderie.

You're like, bro, I know you were soaking. I would never do that. It's like, a creed has been broken. Like, good for you. Oh, yo, before we wrap this thing, I mean, we're kind of tent pulling this thing with KM Saks into the first quarter, three in the fourth, two to ice it at the end. We got to rewind here. Minute 52 left in the third. Shy Tuttle with the big man pick and then the Matt Ryan stiff arm.

Probably reround this about 25 times in the back. You were right there blocking too. Yeah, I got a hand on Matt Ryan. Yeah, you nudged him. You know, what's it called? Mush? That's a mush. Whenever you get an interception or a fumble recovery, block the intended receiver, block

the quarterback. Right? And so I was like, I gotta go get him. And luckily it's Shy Glizzy. You know, Tuttle is, he's a pure nose or true nose, you know, over in Carolina, big nose. And so I was able to catch him pretty quickly. So then I was like, I got a clear way for my boy. And I put hands on Matt just trying to help out and he gives him the stiff arm from the New Orleans Saints heaven into, you know, whatever Atlanta we'll call hell, you know, just a regular season for them, I don't know. I think he stiffed our, no, he stiffed our Matt Ryan to CBS.

He went right into the seat. Then Shy gets walked down by what, Devontae Freeman or somebody at the time, and I was like, damn it, Cam, Shy could probably outrun Matt. He should have held back and wheeled somebody off. Was there a flag on it? There was, yes.

Illegal block on Cam, which was kind of a lame flag. But did you get fined? No, because look at it. Like it was a bear. It was a nudge. It wasn't like an illegal block. I clearly had hand on hip and the other hand on inside shoulder. I'll get you on that.

I used to get those. Again, for $1 a day, you too could correct visions of a referee. Yeah, $1 a day. One dollar a day keeps the flag away Well, we gotta produce these we'd be doing everyone a service man Jaguars aftermath of this game All right, we got to put the final score on this thing two onside kick recoveries weren't enough 26 18 can't finish with six tackles, five solo, four sacks, four and a half tackles for loss, and a past deflection.

What a game, baby. Can I get a hot tub? Yeah, baby. That's a cold tub too. Nah, I don't believe in those. Oh, really? We'll go hot tub then. Of course.

You sickos that believe in the cold are, again, sickos. It makes you hallucinate. I can believe it, bro. I got in the cold tub, like I get in the cold tub one time with the D-line a year, and I feel it in myinate. I can believe it, bro. I got in the cold tub, like I get in the cold tub one time with the D line a year and I feel it in my chest. I like it. Like I get out, I'm like, yo, am I dying? Like, oh, this is what it means to be closer to God.

Look at me. I go into my sauna and I'll crank that thing to 230 where your skin is boiling. I'll be in there for 20 minutes. Like you could feel your heart trying to like die. Get to the heat and then you go jump right into that. And I fully submerged into like 38 degree water.

And if electric shock. And you literally feel, I see like angels when I'm cause I, my eyes are open and it's only this deep. I see angels bro. And I feel like I have a glow after I come out. Yeah. Cause you're appreciating every second. You look, cause you almost died. I almost died. But a glow after I come out. Yeah, because you're appreciating every second. Because you almost died. I almost died.

But I think the body needs it. There's some sickos in this room, like hell yeah, brother. Let's put a bow on this bad boy. Of course, Cam finished the NFC Defensive Player of the Week, finished the season with 15 and 1 half sacks. Let's go. Hell yeah. We talked about that Matt Ryan record.

Nobody has tacked a quarterback more. I think I tore my groin muscle that year too. Did you get it fixed? Yeah, after. I went to Philly for everybody. Burger? Yeah. Dr. Burger. Shout out Dr. Burger.

And the Saints clinched the NFC South for the second straight season after this game. Got the three seed. Ended up losing in the wild card around 26, 20, and OT to the Vikings and Michael Thomas went off put a little shine on him earlier 149 receptions in a single season MVP Mike aka can't guard Mike a record that still stands to this day that's that's 17 games unreal aka trigger Twitter fingers, Mike. What's up with my guy? He's got, he's got, he's got

aggressions. He's aggrieved. 149, that's incredible. What's your favorite moment as a Saint? Mailment? Your favorite moment as a Saint? Mailment? Mailment.

Right about meow? Shoot. Man, there's so many. Obviously getting drafted to Saints would be too easy to pick on. The first sack is always going to be memorable. Favorite moment. That's man. There's so many of them because we're here sitting down. Two sack night off of Tom Brady for sack number 99 and 100 breaking the 100 sack turning over the odometer baby off off of number 12 you know 100 sacks that's a lot of 99 and a

half and 100 and a half tb12 thanks that's a good person to have them on too solid first sack cam newton great quarterback you know second milestone milestone tom Milestone Tom Brady, 100th track. And then to break the Saints record, Gardner Minshew. Hey. I mean, he's greatness, greatness. Gardner Minshew. Hell of a mustache, though. Is it? It's a regular mustache. It's a regular mustache. They're like, here's great mustache. There's no like length to it, no beauty to it.

I think any white guy with the mustache, people think, oh, it's a great mustache. I've had great mustaches trying to be positive I've got maybe a dumb question Is there any mementos you keep from like a monumental sack like a wide receiver can keep a ball like nothing? No You can keep the set. I'm not but I'm not big like sentimentalist like you know, like I Enjoy the game for what it is and I played to the best of my ability. And I was like, I'm gonna keep this jersey forever. I think I ended up donating it like,

or giving it away in a, in a whatever, like it doesn't. Cams defined more than just a football player. I could tell just how you talk. I got kids, they define me. If my kids grow up and they're like bad people, I would have failed, you know? really I'm gonna blame the mom. How could you let this happen, babe? Yeah, deferred.

But if they come out great, I will take all the credit. Nia Jordan is a physicist. Yes, she is. You know who taught her? This guy. You know how many multiple times tables we went through? Every day when she was six, that was me. We're on the threes right now. Second grade. No three three. I thought you were talking like threes when they're when they're two years old. I don't believe in terrible twos

but when they're three that's a little demon. Yeah. Because now they got opinions and they stand on ten toes about any and everything. No because what you mean because? You know if this wasn't 2000s you would have got your ass whooped. Like, just, do push-ups now. Yeah, now. Yeah, now we do push-ups because the world is scared to. All you can do is say you can't watch the iPad. Yeah, but now you're a bad person.

Like, and it doesn't correct it, now they just spazzed out for no reason. They just, they spaz and then they get over it and spaz again. I'm like, nah, bro, let's nip this in the bud. Push-ups. Push-ups. Big, big military, big military push-ups, jumping jacks, squats, for punishment. Because now what you're going to do, what you're going to do, blame me for making you stronger?

I think not. I make her hit the fence. Is she low? What does that mean? Wait, wait, wait, wait. There's a little hill in the backyard where I make her hit the fence. Explain yourself. I make her hit the fence.

Hit the fence. Wait, wait. I don't agree. Hey. Not the fence. Hit the fence. Hell yeah. Oh yeah.

She got us to run. Yeah, I like that. We hit the levee sometimes, which is a big hill in the backside. Oh, we're acting up. Oh, we don't know how to listen to Mom, huh? Filter time, big levy action. And now they're running levies and they're pissed. Dad, I'm just so tired. I don't care if you walk up the levy. Guess what you're gonna do? Hit this 10 times. Man, parenting. They fear me in the off season because daddy got time. Yeah. Daddy got time. What'd you

say to me? Talking back. You didn't do your homework. All right. Let's go outside. 30 laps. Little backyard. Feel like 30 laps, maybe 400 yards, you know, like a little backyard. Run them. Yeah. Run them. Dad, I'm so tired. I know you are. Put it in the bank. Yeah. Continue. Sorry. You're just putting equity in that little bank.

I'll make them, bro. They're going to be so awesome as athletes. Like, how'd you get here? I don't know. We really, like, he didn't really give us like, real drills. Been training them their whole lives, they don't know it yet. Tank pisses me off. All right, bro, let's go outside, catch some balls. Run out, post, slant, dig.

It is what it is. Bro's gonna have hands. Oh, did you catch with your body? Back to zero. Ooh, body catching, no body catchers. No body catchers, no bro. You put pads on, that's bad business your body? Back to zero. Ooh, body catching, no, no good. No body catchers, no, bro. You put pads on, that's bad business. Anyone do that.

We don't do that. Lastly, in the legacy, I wanna know your Mount Rushmore DNs. Hell yeah, brother. True DNs, not the edge rusher types. Yeah, I wanna start off Chris Dolman. Julius Peppers. Are we labeling Reggie White as a DN? Because he was a 3'4' but

he's really a D-tackle but he was on the edge. Yeah, he was on the edge. You can't go Reggie White and then Cam Jordan. Let's go. No LT? He's an edge. LT? He's not a DN. DN? He's an edge rusher. He's TJ Watt. Okay. He's Vaughn Miller. He's not putting his hand in dirt and he's like, oh shit, he's going to put hands on me. Like, the tight ends didn't fear him. Fear him? He's here to block him for sure. And a pass rusher.

But like, a duo going his way? You know what's fucking crazy when you just said that, a duo coming his way. I did. I want you know what? You know, it's fucking crazy when you just said that a duo coming his way. We got the duo, our defense. I don't know. I forget what year it was in like 18. We had a good defense and they they were getting the duo coming at them. It was regular day. Yeah. And we got blown up. And you know how you're supposed to take them out.

So you force it inside the duo. blown up and you know how you're supposed to take them out so you force it inside the duo? Fucking build through on LT clips. He goes, this is how you fucking do it. And he'd show LT blowing up the duo and making the fucking play. But it's funny how you said that. Yeah. Crazy. No, yeah. That's, I like that. That's a fucking, that's an insane. Yeah. Now, had you just left it at edge, then we'd open it up to the Vaughn Miller's the L Yeah, I like that. You have a difference. Yeah, I like that. There's nuances to this That's like that's like that's like naming like, you know a slot receiver and they're like, oh, but what about him?

But he's a he's a he's an X or Z or whatever. A lot of people think I'm a slot receiver But I did have most more catches on the outside. Mm hmm. We love nuance here in the. Yeah. You know, it's a lot of hay in the slot. Any leftover questions? And what's your best James story down in New Orleans? I was going to stick current because I love everything he'd be talking about now. What's going to take to win the game? Unwavering faith. Victory comes by the road. Or what?ing faith. Victory comes by the road or whatever.

But what, victory comes by the road. What else did he say? Like, but we're gonna get it. It's lights, camera, it doesn't take the lights, the camera, the action. It takes all action, individual action. I love Jameis. Like, what?

And there was times when he wasn't the starter, you would still be like, did you really say that shit? And he's so serious, locked in. Lock be like, did you really say that shit? The eat the W one. And he's so serious, locked in. Locked in. Could you imagine him being a champion? We played him that game, the eat the W, that was our game. Deshaun Jackson in the back, Quan Alexander.

Guys looking at him like, what the hell? And he's like, what we gotta do is win, we gonna do this, we gonna win. Hey, everybody wants a W, right? Yeah, you gotta eat that. And the moment he went here, you see Deshaun Jackson in the picture like. No, but Deshaun's from L.A. He's like, he's a cat that like, you know, he's cool.

If you understand James, the moment you have a conversation with James, you understand that's the guy you want in a bar fight. That's the guy you want at church. That's the guy you want at the house playing cards. That's the guy you like at church, that's the guy you want at the house playing cards, that's the guy you always want in your corner. Because you're like undying faith that he's going to win whatever situation he's in. You're in a bar fight, oh we got to beat him up. He's already thrown the punch and you haven't even realized that he was about to be fighting.

You were like, if we're about to drive to the mall, he's already in the driver's seat and he doesn't know where the mall is yet. If you need somebody to ride with you Jamis is that guy? He is like look look at him. The Sean's right there, bro. Look at because you zoom in on the Sean's face What are we doing? Why are you here? Oh My gosh priceless and but had they won they were eating dubs for the rest of the season But had they won, they would have eaten dubs for the rest of the season. Fan base would have been eat a dub, eat a dub, dub, dub, dub, dub, dub.

Yeah. Arrogance in the winning. Print the t-shirts. The ole if game. One little piece of housekeeping over here. We talked St. Streaks. 1980 was the record. 14 losses in a row.

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Hope you could join us for the postseason run. All right, let's name the game. The George R. R. your podcasts and you will be glad you did. Hope you could join us for the postseason run. All right, let's name the game, the Jordan Flu game or the Cam Jordan Flu game. Cam Jordan Flu game. Yeah, Cam Jordan Flu game. Got to go. You say Jordan Flu game, you're automatically thinking the Bulls. Yeah. What? There's a more famous Jordan. This is the Cam Jordan Flu game. Is this the greatest game of all time?

Let's score it cam stakes zero to ten decimals. Okay, the stakes of this week 13 Thanksgiving game if it was the Super Bowl it'd be a ten If it was this is a nice season game. This is a nine rival It's a rivalry division game. That's what I'm saying. What's the score ranking out of 10? That's a nine. Yeah. Close it out. Close the game out. Again, last play of their offensive series, close it out with the sack. That alone puts you in cataclysmic efforts.

Right. And then you talk about it's a division point. It's Thursday night and you're sick. The only thing would make that better is a Super Bowl. Yeah. Love it. I love that. For me, it's seven, eight. Because Division game makes it high,

but you guys are eight and two at the time. They're two and eight. That's the only reason for me, mistakes are not as big. Star power. Hold on, Jack, I got a... 5.6, I really, I'm Russian judging here. I had a five nights of regular season game Yeah. The vision did not count for you. You don't understand the hate.

It's OK. South is not enough as they don't understand the you know, that's what the T-shirt said. I heard the T-shirts printed up, man. The star power zero to ten decimals. OK, people in the game, maybe people at the game, star power. Yeah, solid eight. Julio, prime Julio Jones.

Yes, yes. Prime Matt Ryan. All of your Hall of Famers. Devontae Freeman was that guy when he was at Atlanta. He was, he fucking scored on us and he was good. Yeah. Payton, Dan Campbell's in the building. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, the coaches. AKA, Taysom, Drew Brees, there was no, Yeah, yeah Dan Campbell's Okay Taysom drew breeze there was no like the two breeze was top three at the time Yeah coaching don't know who their coach was doesn't matter can you care and think that was? Mr. 20 John Paging a boom the only coach sponsored by Jordan. Whoa, right John John Payton. It's a wild distinction. I didn't know right I wonder how that call went did Sean call them or did Jordan call them great question. I think you Sean Jordan we gotta get the bottom of this I think I think they were golfing together at some of it and sounds right now because he's star power

It was more people than Sean nobody. Yeah, you know, I'm gonna go eight point two. I agree I threw a seven point eight. I'll do a 7.9. We're in the same ballpark here. So I wasn't delusional on Star Power. Yeah, that's right. Delulu. The gameplay of the game. Back and forth. Oh yeah. How the viewer likes it. There's two on site. Was there two? Two, three. Really three. One got called back. 9.4. 9.4. Because it's a close game. It was all back and forth. No matter how bad we block a kick, they answered that with still getting back.

Whatever it was, two onside kicks to bring it back. Every phase was involved. Yeah, you were on the edge of your seats for the entire game. On whatever side it was, you were like, if you're on the Atlanta side, you're like, come on baby, pull it out. And if you're on the New Orleans side, she's like, nah, leave it in.

Soak, baby, soak. And for that, I'm gonna give it a nine. I'm a special teams guy at heart. There's a lot of good special teams, a lot of great defense, turnovers. I went with a 6.0. I don't know what's going on here. I don't know what I'm, I don't know what's going on here. I don't know what I'm doing.

I did an 8.2. Firing from the hip. The name of the game, the Cam Jordan flu game. Oh, that's a good one. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to go six just because it had been a quarterback that would have thrown into a different atmosphere.

It's an integrity score. Yeah. Like humble humble. As a defensive end, although we are marquee players, your fans are looking for guys that score touchdowns, guy that makes touchdowns. So it just is what it is. Not me.

I like guys that sack guys that throw touchdowns. Hell yeah. Me too. And stop the fucking run. Hell yeah, brother. And set the goddamn edge. Set the world on fire is what we do. And don't run past the quarterback.

Man. And that put their hands in the ground all three plays. Well, I tell people I have the greatest job alive. Like I get to work every day and I bring my hands to work. Like I get to choke somebody else out. Like I look forward. I'm like, ooh, tight end. You've lost.

You've lost. It's a different type of bringing your hands to work. Yeah. Like Cam said, he will not change a fucking light bulb, but he will choke the shit out of a 300 pound man and try to hit a six foot six guy that's 250 pounds. Exactly, a pulling tight end. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh,

we're coming down. Is that when? And he's going down. Is that when you see angels? Man, cause I'm like, thank you, Lord, for this opportunity. Fah! And don't let them drop. And now you're my bitch.

Now it's jail rules. Yeah, man. I'm going to give it a 7-5. I like the Cam Jordan flu game. I love that name. I love it. It's just the effectiveness for a defensive end. Jackie gave 8.0.

I had a 4.5. All right, where's that put us in all the games we've done? 7-4-3. You're 47th overall, just ahead of the 2014 BCS National Championship, Auburn versus FSU, James Winston. Great game. And just behind, the 2002 Western Conference finals,

game five, Lakers versus Kings. That's a good spot. Greatest season game, it's a good spot. Play those season games, good spot. Cam, do we miss anything? I mean, what haven't we covered? We've been here for a while. I know. We appreciate your time, man.

Thank you so much for coming. You got to plug anything? We got to Cam Jordan Foundation. You know, like, you do a lot of good in the city of New Orleans. Did a gala earlier this year, raised damn near 200 grand, quarter million dollars, which going to turn that into a scholarship.

So we're going to do a lot of good. It's for the kids. Yeah. So it's definitely for the next generation. You know, the greatest thing about being a football player is being able to have an impact on the next generation, just in terms of them collecting cards, playing mud, you know, madden, whatever it is, they look up to us. So the fact that I got kids that have sent me highlights of them doing my sack celebration in college and in high school I think is wild. Even some kids like, like bro I'm gonna do your sack celebration in the league.

And I'm like, oh, I didn't know I hit that plateau. It's awesome to see, but 14 years ago, you know, going to school visits every Tuesday and I still do it. Kids that are like seven, eight, nine, 10 are now 21, you know, 25, 26. Like, bro, I remember when you came to the school, and you know, I hope to one day be like you. That shit's dope.

Yeah, that's awesome, man. That's so cool that you recognize the platform that we have as athletes. We've worked so hard to get to where we're at, but it's so satisfying to help other people along in their journey because we didn't get to where we were at by ourselves. There's other people, a father, a mentor, this, you know, coach, you know, and that's,

I love that, man. Everyone go check out the Camp Jordan Foundation, Off the Edge, this podcast, I hopped on there. Thank you so much for coming on, bro, and coming to the Nutt House. Hell yeah. Appreciate the invite. Didn't know what to expect, and now I, it lived up lived up to expectations. Yeah, I was going down for a bro down Awesome man, that was a fun episode. He's awesome first active Player during season in the nuthouse. I we come through to the nuthouse. He's probably done right now though, but still Seasons happening fucking monster. He's a wide individual. I need to ask him his shoulder recipe, man. What's the word to the workouts, bro?

I think God. You see, that's just natural. Like the width of his shoulders are fucking long. Like you could just tell you his long arms. That's why he's so good on the edge and. Love that he loved playing in the fucking run game. Oh, I like the all down edge. Rush Lane integrity.

He's a fucking he's he's a Hall of Famer, I think. 100 percent. I mean, he's had some insane seasons. He's played a long time at a high level as a hunter. What's he got north of 100 sacks? I know he's 100. 117 and a half. What the time of what does that put him up? Top 20, 25, top 25. And you know what? He's going to be seventeen and a half what the time of what is that? Top 20 25 top 25 and you know what he's gonna be great when he retires whatever media outlet he goes to everyone

Let's do he's gonna be great. We get him. We should give him a nuthouse get him his own podcast with the nuthouse I don't know. Is that illegal? Are we are we are we uh, maybe what is it called collusion? No, not colluding When a player is owned by another team, you can't tampering tampering lose our first-round pick. Are we tampering? Are we tampering? Let's call Tom Brady and see what he knows about tampering. Hmm. Hmm Hmm. Hmm. You can do a camera an anti Falcons podcast hosted by can Falcons hate week every week hates the Falcons I don't even hate the Falcons. Yeah I don't know. It's an NFC see the the NFC, I know every division's got their rivals, but NFC's south rivalries, they're all unique.

Because I think the Panthers would say the same thing, their biggest rivals are the Falcons. The Saints would say the same thing, their biggest rivals are the Falcons. And then you got Tampa just kinda hanging out and like. Is that because Atlanta was so good in the 90s and shit, maybe? Maybe. They were the cream.

I wonder. Because the Saints were bad for a very long time. Yeah. I mean, I just remember as a kid seeing paper bags overheads Yes, the ain't saints baby and now I saw that was from footage before I was born I was seeing you know what I mean? Like so they've never really the expansion team of the Panthers they started out hot So they were always pretty they were decent when dealt home and Steve Smith They were always had really have were decent when Dell home and Steve Smith, they were always had really good teams, Ebb's and Flows.

Then you get Cam in there and the Bucks were really bad back in the day. Really, really, really bad. The only thing good about it was the Creamsicles. So Atlanta was like the team. Vic. Yeah. But even before Vic Dion back in the 80s and early 90s, is it a fairly new division? What's the division age? How old is it? I mean, I know that division, but like, how old are the I don't know. The Bucks used to be in the NFC North,

which is fucking weird, or they call it the central or central. Yeah, it was only formed in 02. The NFC South now, as we know it. When did Atlanta come into existence? Because are they the oldest one in the division maybe? I don't think so. 66. Yeah, that's fully.

Cause the Panthers were an expansion team. What about the Bucs? The Bucs. Tampa was like a seventies team I feel. 76, you're right. Yeah. How old are the Saints? And then the Saints.

67. So them and the Falcons are right in that same little window. They're the same. And that's why, that's why that's probably the biggest rivalry. Those two. Because they're the oldest of that. And that's like, that's the South. The two big cities in the South. Those are the big South. And South loves football, man.

That's got to be a fun conference or a fun division to play in. It is. The two big cities in the south. Those are the big south. And south loves football, man. That's gotta be a fun division to play in. It is, and it was pretty cool to think only, I mean not that many years ago you had Cam, you had Breeze, you had Ryan. That's three big time QBs in one division. Yeah, they had a lot of, they had really good teams. Those early 10s, I mean, Saints won Super Bowl,

Cam went to Super Bowl, Atlanta went to Super Bowl after, you know, in mid-10s. Like they've had some teams. Oh yeah. Bucks won Super Bowls, and Tom. Yep. And then Gruden before that. Quick correction here, it's 118 and a half. Cam Jordan, I'm looking at PFR here.

So that puts him at 23rd all time on the official list. Just in front of JJ Watt, right behind Clyde Simmons. Just in front of JJ. Simeon Rice right in front of those guys. He's a Hall of Famer, dude. Full time. Full time. Lineage blood.

Full time. Man, that was an awesome episode. One of my favorite Nut House guests so far. That was great. That was good. They keep getting better. Now, let's hit the old hotline. I've been enjoying these.

Again, that number is 424-291-2290. I'm with my roommate Collin Sinclair and I am Ben Helton and our NFL hot take is if Nick Chubb could stay healthy he would be the best running back in the NFL. And also we play on a flag football team and we are both wide receivers. We're running if you had any tips on the route running. Thank you. It's like an AI kid. That's full AI kid.

St. Collins and Claire, you don't buy that as a real name. Ben Helton. AI kid. Well, oh young buck, let me, why don't you take a little second real quick. Let me adjust myself. Nick Chubb of healthy. I mean, yeah, I think he'd probably be one of the best running backs. I don't think he's quite what he was before yet.

Needs a little more reps could come back. I mean, he's still early. That was I think what he had a really bad injury was like a Torres ACL maybe? No, I think it was like his patellar tendon. Was it that? Regardless, he's a hard worker. You always see the videos of Nick Chubb in the weight room.

You know that he's putting in 110 effort all time in his prep, so. Yeah, I don't think that's a hot take bubs I mean if we were three years ago, he was the best running back in the league damn near four years ago He had the high that's where all the contracts are based off of Nick Chubb and the 11 million bucks that he got Like hey, how come Nick Chubb got 11 mil? That's what that was that was the negotiation meter for running backs or it could be like 12 or whatever it was. Then he had the horrific injury.

So route running, flag football team, attack leverage. Always attack the leverage of an off defender and make all your routes look the same. So you attack the leverage, say he's off and inside, if you attack him, you get him flat footed, he's either got to open up, right? And then when he does that, if you're attacking him full speed, he's either going to give you some some depth and you get to run your out, your in your post. Or you know, if he's flat footed, that's where you get your you know, your deep one, your stutter go.

So you want to marry all your routes to look the same. And I was always it was different in our system. A lot of these West Coast teams are steps and everything's timing in place. Like ours was always about attacking leverage. And even if a guy's press he's got inside leverage if he's pressing inside leverage he's telling you where his help is it's over the top outside so if you attack that leverage it also creates room and space because I'm sure you're playing flag football

that's what it's all about is space you're you're creating space from the other guys so if he's outside leverage he's got help in the middle of field If you attack that leverage, you're creating more space man coverage and you get open college college intramural league type vibes I feel like I was gonna say was that college? I thought that was way younger if you're ever roommate though You know what I mean? Yeah roommate. Oh, yeah Was it college maybe I was gonna say flag football tip convinced's meet senior to come out of retirement and join your team Maybe Josh McCown look at those boys, right? Don't sleep on the spin move in flag football too. If you can do a spin move, it's killer those flags are tough to get

I see it. Hey Joel. This is a question for you I was just wondering who was the first person you talked to after the 28 to 3 comeback besides your teammate Uh-huh. My parents are my dad I think Who was the first person you talked to after the 28 to 3 comeback, besides your teammates? Uh huh, my parents, my dad I think. My mom, my dad, my brother, my sister were there. And then my agent, Don and Steve. Doobin and Yee. Eatin' Doobin Sports. And I did some, for Don I did some, I did a Happy New Year's in Chinese, for Chinese New Year.

I think it was the year of the rabbit maybe? Oh nice. I don't know. I could be, it was 2019, so whatever that was. Call that the year of the squirrel, baby. Those are the two. 18, 17? Falcons, 2017?

Wait, is this Falcon? Oh, Falcons. Yeah, he's got the shirt on. How does that work a family on the field after a Super Bowl? Are they just streaming online? I think you get a certain amount of passes. Yeah, he's got the shirt on. How does that work a family on the field after Super Bowl? They just are they just like I think you get a certain amount of passes. Yeah, certain amount of tickets. And then you get a certain amount of like field access passes if win. So that's you're like celebrating on the field.

And at some point, you see Frank and Angie like, oh, then. Yeah. Fuck. Yeah, it's awesome. That was a good game. 28 to three. Always gave that I love you sign to my family, you know my Dad's that was our thing. We always I love you'd because we have death family That's a number one game. That's so cool Yeah for a reason number one, baby Julie that's Bill

Look like you can't do this fucking radio show without doing the ice ball Like we're not on this fucking program here. Come on. Pretty good. Pretty good, Bill. That was Bill. That's a pretty good bill. 518 number. He started he started like, look, look, look, look, look. Ice ball. Yeah, I mean, we got to get the right guess, guys. Willem Dafoe. Oh, he was the starting quarterback that year quarterback that year when he he started he was starting for the Packers ready

green goblin Wait explain why will him to photo that game that's epic. Yeah, he was freezing I bought off out there. Maybe and he's got a good voice No, like I've heard him narrate some shit. So like, his voice on the intro would be epic. 1967 NFL Championship game for all you at home. 19 what? 67. 67. It's a good year.

Packers Cowboys, Packers 1, 21-17. We should see who's alive from those rosters and just make a push, because we should do that game the frozen tundra I wish we had John man RIP get Nick cage as John man. Oh I gotta see how Nick cage is gonna do with the old coach Okay, this is a Fucking man was like a huge part of my life

Bay Area native Same tail when to call it a same tail. So was like a huge part of my life. Bay Area native. San Mateo went to college. Also, Dick Vermeel to for meal. We got some fucking winners over at college. The San Mateo Bulldog Nation. Shout out. Shout out. What's a bulldog always a bulldog? Shout out.

James, the name is your boy, Aaron Andrews from New England. This is going gonna be a good friggin weekend of football. We got Drake Bay. Is he the one? If he's gonna be the one we're gonna find out. I don't want to put too much pressure on him but I'm super excited to see him play and what he can do for the entire team. Can we also talk about Nikki freaking Glazer? I think we need to get her on this podcast maybe like quarterly quarterly annually by I'm sorry. I screwed this up already. But either way y'all enjoy this Friday I'll be calling back a little bit, you know, you know, but um

Julian and anybody else take you it. Take it slow. Take it easy and and all that. What is this drunk hour with fucking Aaron? Aaron Andrews, this guy, he's hammered. I love him. Calling us on a Friday night after a fucking long week of work. Just venting to fucking in the names of names. I like it.

Drake May, is he the one? Right now he's the one. Looking pretty good. He's looking good. I fucking like his attitude. I love him. I like his attitude. Needs to work on getting his feet set more though.

His feet are always all over the place. Make some great throws, don't get me wrong. Make some great throws. Can we talk about how good Nicky is on those Amazon, those hits in the post game? Yeah. That segment she does, unreal. Best thing I see all football season the best killed the Golden Globes So good. He's so cool

How old is that kid Where these kids listen to this goddamn podcast for? There's fucking bombs and shit in here. They just try to go to sleep. He heard about your three cone drill. He wants to be drafted. It's a kid. This guy's got a bottle still. What are we doing? This is not for children.

This kid better not go anywhere near like the school my kid goes to and tell her how I talk on this show. Hey, I would like to be drafted. Play it again. Draft it. Yeah, I want to hear him again. Hello, I would like to be drafted. Was this that could be seven. With maybe he was like gulp. He was like drinking something at the beginning was like I have a slurpee.

No bottle of milk. Gulp. Bottle of milk. Jesus. Next. Last one. Hey, I'm leaving this message for Kyler, otherwise I'd be texting. Guys, I have a question for you. Will you ever consider doing a Dudes on Dudes Live?

Thanks, Bikes. How old is that girl? She's old. Consider doing a dudes on dudes life. Thanks bikes How is that girl she's old I think a full of age of age like Where is our what is our is our target market fucking kids dude when I'm uploading these episodes I hit explicit every time so these are these are parental advisered. I mean mean, I go to Dexter Academy in Massachusetts and I got little kids call me fucking Edelman. OK, the names is for the children grade. What are these kids doing? How are they listening to this? What are your parents doing?

Molding young minds. Oh, my God. Good thing we don't talk about soaking or anything bad. This is a comedic, explicit sport podcast that talks about absolutely stupid shit and drops F bombs. You can't listen to this when you're not at least like 14, maybe 12. Right. Oh, God on dudes live show. We'll see. Let's let's pump the brakes. Yeah.

We'll be in there going wild. Let's earn our stripes here. Yeah, we got let us. We got to feed the beast first. You got it. You got you got you got to. It's kind of like. Kobe beef. Why is it so good? Because you massage that cow, you feed that cow with nothing but great fucking grasses from somewhere in Japan where they they have a guy that literally

single handedly waters this grass, no pesticides, no nothing. You feed that grass to the beef, You massage it. You give it beer. We want a little fat in that fucking meat. We want marbleization in this podcast. Right now we're marbling. We're marbling right now. But we ain't fucking Kobe beef right now. We ain't even US Prime.

We're not going to the slaughterhouse just yet. We ain't US Prime right now. Now you're right. OK. So pump the brakes on live show. What is the one under U.S. Prime meet? It's going to be it's going prime choice select. We're select. Safeway select. So the highest you can have is abundant marbling,

moderate marbling or slight marbling. We're not marbled yet. We're not even at slight yet. Yeah, dude, we're fucking select. No marbling and select. We're fucking top chuck. You gotta put us into a stew right now. You gotta dig that sticky... You gotta dig that sticky hammer.

It's over to the $2 bank. But live show hopefully coming in the future. Maybe Grand Beach. Oh, God. Grand Beach on stage. Oh, my God. Dudes on dudes live party. Each of all. Oh, heck yes. Well, thank you for calling and not texting. That's why I got played on the air.

I just hope that kid gets drafted and I hope he's I know. I hope he's an offensive lineman and I hope he can play for the. This is maybe this is in 15 years. There's like an e60 of this kid Well, we know if it's that kid he'll know What's he gonna call into it? He'll know He'll know Tom Rinaldi will find it And when you called

How did you feel? I? Just wanted to get drafted and tell him. What were your thoughts following what you said? Well, I don't know, I was like six years old. And my dad called me and I think he was having a couple beers and he said, let's fucking call games with names and said, say something. So I just said what I said.

How did you make you feel as a kid growing older? Pretty good. Standard. It's Friday night. You always knew that was kind of the night. Dad had a couple of beers. I'd take a sip when he wasn't looking, you know, standard shit. That's a Tom and Aldi. That's a Tom. That's so profound, bro.

Every time I talk with him, he because I want to cry by the end of our conversation. He gets real deep. He knows how to ask a goddamn question question you give it right back to him, don't you? Oh, I do you turn it he'll be like He was asking me about my upbringing with my dad. We were at some Fox seminar. He's like How did you grow up No, you know, and this is what did your dad do? I'm gonna have a cane He was how I go, you know, my dad, this is, what did your dad do? Oh, my dad was a mechanic. He goes, how did that make you feel? I said, I don't know, it was regular for me.

How did your dad make you feel? He goes, it's not about me, it's about how your life developed. Something like that, I'm like, damn, Tom, you're doing that shit to me, Tom. You're doing that shit. You're gonna get me to cry. I will not cry. That is awesome.

I always, I tell her, I just got renalde'd. All right, let's get out of here. We gotta get out of here, guys. Let's go get some pretentiousy. We gotta get some pretentiousy. You know, Marshawn, get us on that. We used to have, dude, I've had that before that was like a thing wild I never heard of it. I'm probably maybe it's changed but no not knowing Marsha but wanting to know Marshawn

It's probably the same. I like that. He knows what he's from a skittle in there instead of a worm But friggin cam was amazing cam watch is the man. Go watch Off the Edge. Go check out Off the Edge. Check out the Cam Jordan Foundation. And thanks again to Cam. That was fun. That was awesome. What a guy.

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