Games with Names - "The Can't Wait Game" with Rich Eisen | 2010 AFC Divisional Round: Jets vs. Patriots
Episode Date: January 25, 2024Rich Eisen joins us in studio! As a long suffering Jets fan, Rich wanted to revisit their last playoff win which just so happened to be against the Patriots in the 2010 season’s Divisional Round. Ri...ch joins us on the couch (2:53). We take a look at the world in January of 2011 (23:31). We get into these rosters and the game (47:50). We wrap it up by scoring this game (1:04:20). We conclude the episode by taking some questions from you, the fans (1:09:58). Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Today we are doing the 2010 AFC Divisional Game New York Jets versus the New England Patriots.
The can't wait game.
Can't wait.
Unfortunately, the last Jet playoff win to date.
Rich Eisens here in studio.
Legendary sportscaster.
I would like to make you the commissioner of the NFL.
Are you kidding?
There's no way you're losing to the Jets at Gillette. This was it.
This was like their last shot.
I remember Bart Scott getting right up in Billy O. Ryan's face.
And like Billy O. goes, f*** you, man.
Now that is another reason why I love this game.
Touchdown, Jets!
Second quarter hit, and I couldn't believe it.
Could make the case that this was Sanchez's best game ever.
More Jets! More Jets!
And the Jets went into New England.
I thought it was going to finally happen.
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On today's episode, we're talking the can't wait game, the stupid can't wait game,
2010 AFC Divisional Round, Jets versus the 14 and two patriots we get into rich being a jets fan rich secretly loving
the patriots because everyone in his loving circle is a patriot fan so naturally patriots are are
going into him even though he's a jets fan we talk about rex coach rex Rex Ryan and his feet loving. That was a big storyline.
It was a huge storyline.
Oh, Welker.
Oh, Wes.
That was pretty clever.
That was a great troll job.
He was actually a very, like, he's a very clever jokester.
He was.
He put a lot of thought into that,
and there was a lot more pranking and stuff pre-me,
and those pranksters left,
but, like, you could tell that he was around pranks.
As far as bulletin board material goes, that was creative.
Very, very creative.
And then we'll wrap up the show with some questions from you fans
and supporters.
I think we even talked about what Tom Brady made you do
at the rookie dinner.
Can't even call him a rookie anymore.
First years?
What did he say?
Yeah, first years, dude.
It's a thing.
I think it's the same at college.
You can't say freshman.
You can't?
A lot of colleges are going first year.
Crazy, right?
You can't disrespect a freshman who's making like $8 million.
Really?
Who's some senior?
Hey, dude, I got INL right now.
I'm making $5 million.
Shut up.
Punk, you get my bags.
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January 16th, 2011.
Gillette Stadium, Foxborough, Mass.
Rex Ryan and his little foot soldiers versus the New England Patriots football team.
Pull your socks up and tighten those laces
because an upset is a foot.
This is the Can't Wait Game.
That's a pro right there.
Yep.
That's a pro.
One and done.
Like the Patriots were that year.
Welcome to Games with Names presented by Winbet.
Today we have a special, special guest.
Thank you for the two specials.
Special, special, special guest. Thank you for the two specials. Special, special, special guest.
Thank you.
That's a 3P.
Rich Eisens here in studio.
Legendary sportscaster.
Thank you, sir.
You started off on ESPN.
I did.
And you went to NFL.
I did.
Now you're on Roku.
Now, look at me.
And you're doing your own thing.
You got your own brand.
I just went to the studio.
And every time I go to your studio, I kid you not. I'm like this guy had no he knows what it's supposed to be thanks pal
i professional it didn't hit me until i rolled up and you park your car yes and you're only 30 yards
from where you're shooting that's it it's really nice and convenient i want everybody happy in a
nice chill green room.
I don't have anybody do social media in their green room.
I don't have somebody shoot a camera on you in the green room.
Nice and chill to come out to the set, feel comfortable.
But I don't, you know, this is odd for me.
I need to feel like I've got to put a foot on the floor.
Nah, you've just got to.
You know, I mean, I'm sitting on a couch.
Whatever's comfy.
You look great.
Thanks for saying that. You look great. That's sitting on a couch. Whatever's comfy. Am I bunching up? You look great. Thanks for saying that.
You look great.
That's a double look great.
I appreciate that. So we got a three special double look great.
I appreciate that.
You know, ever since I did, I forget which season I was the,
I did two Patriot dinner, kickoff dinner, MC jobs.
Yeah, yeah.
What year?
I think I was there.
You were there
one year yeah you might have been there for both of them i don't know i got invited back it used
to be berman doing it a lot yeah and and i i sensed from belichick the one thing he wanted
out of this thing was to get out get in get in get out go home so i remember from i remember that, but before I did the event,
one Thomas Edward Brady was kind enough to sit down for me for my Rich Eisen podcast show that my current show was born out of.
Wow.
And I'll never forget, I thought to myself,
I'm going to show up, I'm going to be Xenia.
I'm going to wear my Xenia.
I'm going to also wear like a
like a like a nice little merino wool sweater vest yeah um or sweater like a like a sweater
uh like a v-neck sweater that's what it was like a vest standard pretty much standard and i'm like
so i'm gonna just look as good as i possibly can and then brady sat down next to me looked like i
was wearing a burlap sack man i just it was the toughest two-shot of my entire career,
and I just figured I'm coming here today with you.
I mean, you're not too damn far behind of a difficult two-shot for me,
and then I'm sitting on this couch.
It's deep, and you need a foot on the floor.
I just, you know, I'm one of those people.
I just, I don't bunch well.
I don't do that sort of stuff well.
I didn't know I could dress down.
I think.
What you're doing.
You're doing it okay.
Thanks, pal.
I think you're doing it okay.
Didn't mean to take over your show.
No, not at all.
You're not taking over the show.
I'm actually intimidated.
You're the host.
You're a king host.
Yeah, I'm difficult to be the A.
And now I've got you in my house now, and I'm trying to host.
You're the Q.
I know.
So it's tough to be the A.
But what do you got for me?
What do you want? So welcome to Games with a but what do you got for me what do you want welcome to games with names thank you i appreciate that and today we are doing the 2010
afc divisional game new york jets versus the new england patriots 14 and 2 new england patriots
i remember that the can't wait game now why did we pick this game rich well julian because i'm an
asshole um and that's number one standard number two i don't know if you when you came on my show Can't wait game. Now, why did we pick this game, Rich? Well, Julian, because I'm an asshole.
And that's number one.
Standard.
Number two, I don't know if you, when you came on my show, you were like, hey, you're coming on mine.
I don't know if you caught the breadcrumb that I dropped.
I said, I can't wait.
I heard it.
Oh, you did.
I heard it.
Very good. So, yeah, this was, unfortunately, the last Jet playoff win to date.
To date.
To date.
The Jets then went to Pittsburgh, lost their second consecutive AFC championship game.
To date, that's their last appearance in a playoff game.
That leads to the largest playoff drought in team sports in North America.
So it's not just America.
It's the entire continent that we're discussing.
So is that soccer?
I believe all of it.
Name it.
North American team sports.
Pickle.
So I'm still reveling in this moment.
Yeah.
And I figured who better to talk about this game with than you?
Because I've got questions for you surrounding this game. So so you're you're a new york jets fan yes sir born and raised born and raised
new york city born in brooklyn raised in staten island lived there uh my brother was a jet met
nick fan oh so that's tough you don't have to make that noise tough living you have to make that
noise so uh i realized early on though as a young kid because i had you know i i have awareness
uh that my wins had to come from somewhere i pulled the ripcord on the mets we inserted the
yankees because the yankees had just won to date myself i'm 54 years old the 1976
pennant they got swept by the big red machine.
Reggie Jackson shows up.
They went back-to-back World Series.
I'm like, that's my team.
And they're still my team right now.
But I've stuck with the Jets, brother.
I stuck with them.
That's, I mean, it's got to be tough to be a Jets fan.
But I tell you one thing about the Jets fans.
They love their Jets.
I mean, I got a little
concerned when we retired
Fireman Ed.
You did retire him.
I think the butt fumble retired him.
I do believe, is he back? He's back.
He's back. He's out of the ass of Brandon
Moore and back in the
stadium. Yes, I just saw him at
the Hall of Fame doing his Joe Klecko thing for Joe Klecko.
Yeah.
You know, because he wears Joe's number.
Yeah.
Or wears Bruce Harper's number.
At any rate, long story short, you know my children are Patriots fans, though.
Because your wife is from?
New England.
She's from the area.
She grew up.
Bob Kraft wrote her college recommendation for her.
Jeez.
So we've known
rkk or she sometimes refers to akk akk akk uh knows him very well and of course me being a
michigan wolverine uh when my children were born and brady was winning championships and the jets
were not um couldn't couldn't push back couldn't couldn't couldn't put my children in the position
that i'm in as afflicted i also thought child services would remove me if i'm like you got to
be a jet fan when brady is winning all these championships i mean they're patriot you have
the excuse because of the michigan yes that's i mean that's the only thing that's acceptable
honestly even even and i i would push back on it.
What is this, like Judaism?
You go to the mom's side?
What is this?
It is like Judaism, yeah.
And plus, for the Patriots, the portions of winning,
I mean, they're quite significant.
You know, my son wore 11 when it was for playing soccer.
You know that.
I remember you telling, yeah.
You were so kind.
They sent you cookies, you and Gronk cookies. when we you were so kind to we they sent they sent you
cookies you and gronk cookies they picked you guys cookies just to show you the world-class
operation that the patriots run they returned the pyrex cleaned that we sent it in like that's
that's first class all the way our ladies we had we had these people in the cafeteria
i'll keep their names but they were like the best, always.
Everyone around that facility was a professional.
The people that cleaned up after you,
the people that were in the equipment room,
the trainers, the people in the up,
everyone was a top-notch pro from my experience of being there.
So you're saying everyone did their job is what you're saying.
But as Coach Belichick would say, you have to do your job well.
Oh, he always said that?
Yeah, because everyone would say they do their job.
You've got to do your job well.
They'd always go a little high.
Now, top five Jets of all time that you love. Top five Jets of all time that I love.
Joe Namath is obviously number one.
Number two, oh gosh.
I loved Wesley Walker when i was a kid bruce uh um a freeman
mcneil loved him too i'll i'll be honest with you man i love garrett wilson right now and that is
tough for a michigan guy to say i love him i love what he is doing like he brings this mentality to the table that is missed and his his skills on the field are
clearly being matched as a professional at such an early age with all of the crap that's gone on
there um i i'm really impressed by him i'm very happy that the jets have him and sauce is another
one i i'm swaggy i love him i i was pounding the table for
him on my show and during the combine during the draft i wanted the jets with their first
uh pick of that draft to go with him and then they then they doubled up with
garrett wilson did you call woody i did not i don't have that sort of line so but you wanted
sauce i use my microphone as my communication. You know what I mean?
It's powerful.
I think it's powerful.
I don't understand.
Like, as soon as I got a microphone and I started doing inside the NFL, now I'm on Fox.
I don't know why, but coaches, GMs, they just call me.
We've never had conversations ever.
Is that right?
They would just ring you up?
Yeah.
Like, hey, Jules, how you doing?
Like, oh, that's what they say.
Not like you don't know what you're talking about.
No, they like want to talk to you.
I don't know why they're doing that.
Are they trying to shape me?
They probably are.
You're an influencer.
You're an influencer.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Not everyone has a games with names pod.
Do you know what games with names means?
It's where we're talking about games.
With names.
That have names.
Either name or we names or the names are in the game people that have a name
that have a influence around that team people that play people that are fans super fans you know we
want to hear their perspective and we're all in a search for the greatest game of all time okay gog
greatest of all games i don't know if the one we're discussing is the greatest game of all time
no but it's it's a it's a fun game it's a fun game why is it why did you choose this game because
like i said it's the last time the jets won a last time jets the last time the jets were in the
playoffs a little salt but also no but it's not just that it's just when you get your brains
beaten in by the same people the same organization and for people, it is something that makes them personally happy, which it did.
When you beat the Jets, it made you personally happy.
Others, when you won a game, you were just professionally happy.
No, when you beat the Patriots.
Say it again.
When you beat the Jets.
It didn't make us.
Get out of here.
You know, it certainly made your coach happy, and that's for sure.
And you took a special glee.
After a while, you're like, okay, it's for sure. And you, you took a special glee after a while. You're like, okay,
it's just enough when you kick somebody enough,
like you lose the,
the taste of it feeling good.
I get it.
When you're used to it,
whatever arrogant crap you want to feed me right now,
or it's the truth.
I got it.
Uh,
competitive,
but for the jets that year to prove that the year before,
when they went to the AFC Championship game
and lost to Peyton Manning,
that that was not just going to be a one-time thing,
that they actually came back and did it a second time.
And after Brady and the Patriots got one and done to themselves
for the first time, everybody thought this game,
this was a no-brainer that the Jets would step on their own,
you know what,
and that Brady and you and everyone else
would come out firing on every cylinder
because there's no way you're losing to the Jets at Gillette
to be one and done for a second straight year
against a team that had no business in many people's minds
making the AFC Championship game the game before,
the year before that was what made it really really sweet all together i mean it was it's a great game for
the jets organization well speaking of that yeah let me ask you a question about this game that
i'm here to talk about yeah now if i'm not mistaken did you start that game i technically
started now why did you start that game why did you i i know why you started that i was just trying
to put my best foot forward with the opportunity that i had i now that is another reason why i love
this game because if because wes welker clearly wasn clearly was speaking for himself
because the whole rumor or whatever was going on with Rex Ryan
and his wife and their feet and their love of feet
and each other's feet and shoes and anything else to do with a foot
went viral, went absolutely everywhere.
And his press conference leading up to this divisional playoff game talking about
in just a straight monotone manner just got to put your best foot forward foot soldiers you know
your foot soldier was a good one another one is my favorite one is he got to be on your toes
was a really good one so did you know he was going to do that no one knew nobody i didn't know maybe
he i wasn't in the cool cool club yet you weren't
there yet it wasn't a cool kid club yet did people know like what like afterwards people talked about
it and clearly building like it did he really just like sit him down and say you're gonna you're
benched for a playoff game over there just the first drive i mean i was in the first drive yeah
and then and then that's it?
That was it.
And then you only had one catch in that game.
That I know.
I think I had a catch.
I looked at the box score coming.
I had a punt return, though.
One catch, 12 yards.
One catch, 12 yards.
And a great punt return there in the second half.
I had a good punt return.
A little spark.
Yeah, unfortunately, it wasn't enough, though, was it?
I know, and the punter tackled him.
By the way, that's Jack.
You think the punter got you?
The punter got me.
He used his leverage very well
to the sideline in his help. Okay.
Alright.
Steve Weatherford. Sorry, Steve Weatherford.
Steve Weatherford. Oh, he was rocked
up though. And he went to the Giants and beat us
in the Super Bowl. Oh,
that's right. Remember that? Weatherford
actually. And he had a great game
though. Yeah, Weatherford's not one of those skinny punters
that you'd be ashamed of being tackled by.
Weatherford was rocked up.
I got tackled by a couple punters.
McAfee got me one time.
Yeah.
But, man, that press conference where he used the foot and all that stuff,
we made a huge amount of that on NFL Network.
We had a blast with that.
That was next level hilarious.
And that's, you know,
like the number one thing that Bill doesn't want.
Yeah.
That.
Exactly, yes.
The fact that you guys were talking about,
that's just how Bill is.
He wants your attention,
and he doesn't want no distractions,
even though it always seemed like we had
so many gosh darn distractions. Like, I didn't even want to swear around you because you give off such good dad vibes
me yeah why are you allowed to curse on this pod yeah you can say fuck it fuck that's great but i
don't know i don't want to disappoint you oh my god i don't want to disappoint you it's all good
man should we pull up west real quick oh please this is truly the greatest and uh everybody's
been their best foot forward.
You can't just stick your toe in the water.
Especially, you know, you got your foot up in the air.
I wanted to go out there and just put your best foot forward.
He's got great feet.
You know, he has good feet.
He's another guy who has great feet.
You want to make sure that, you know, you bring your best foot forward out there.
So let's go out there and being good little foot soldiers,
you definitely have to be on your toes and make sure that you're ready to go.
Oh, my gosh. If that was're ready to go oh my gosh if that
was around now that would be so that'd be a tick tock that would be living everywhere everywhere
i know and bill would be you might have gotten a second series out of it you know i mean that
was something else i mean that was funny bill but bill's got a sense of humor like deep down
you think like you know it's funny. Not when it comes to the playoffs.
Yeah, right.
Not playoff time.
Okay?
It's all business.
All business.
Yeah.
He's not about that.
He just wants us to worry about the game.
Okay.
So that's how you got in there.
Jets took the lead.
They did.
We'll get into that, but let's go back to the segment.
We got a segment.
We got a segment. We got a segment.
Okay.
I'm sorry.
I'm just, I'm terrible.
I'm terrible.
No, you're terrible.
You know, you're putting me on my toes and I feel like I got to get my host.
What do you got for me?
What do you have here?
We'll be right back after this quick break.
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We have a segment where we go back in the day of when the game was.
This game took place January 16, 2011.
Yep, yep.
Number one movie was Avatar.
Did you watch it?
I did see Avatar.
It was long, and I didn't understand it.
Agreed.
So I didn't get it.
What do you mean you didn't understand it, guys?
It's basically like the same storyline as,
what's the one, Dancing with the Wolves?
Oh, is that really?
I never even put two and two together.
Yeah.
There's a lot of like metaphorically speaking.
You know what?
Here's the problem.
I play in a weekly poker game here in Los Angeles, California. Molly's game. No, no, no.. Metaphorically speaking. You know, here's the problem is I play in a weekly poker game
here in Los Angeles, California.
Molly's game.
No, no, no, not, no, no, no.
It's really.
Any big names in this?
Anybody we know playing this poker tournament or game?
Maybe.
I don't know, but, you know,
I'm probably giving away too much already.
The only reason why I'm saying is one of the producers of Avatar
is in this, and I'm like,
why am I in a poker hand with somebody who basically does not care if he wins
or loses his hand? What am I doing
in this?
I'm sometimes in a poker hand with a guy who
was one of the ground
floor producers and
agents involving Cheers.
What am I doing?
Deep pockets there, Rich.
Cheers is being seen somewhere in
Slovenia making him more money than he's about to lose in this hand with me,
so he just doesn't give a shit.
That's my avatar take.
Oh, avatar.
What else you got?
TikTok by Keisha.
Remember that song?
I do not.
TikTok.
I do not.
Kesha.
Kesha.
Kesha.
Good one.
She had a couple hits.
Clearly you didn't have them.
I had them.
Okay, good enough.
I'm not a pronouncer guy.
I don't pronounce very well.
Okay, very good.
I didn't go to Michigan.
I went to Kent State.
You know what that stands for?
Yeah, yeah.
Can't read, can't write, can't state.
Did not know that.
We used to hear it all the time from Bowling Green, Ohio.
They used to scream it all the time.
But back to the it all the time.
But back to the segment, Social Network.
Did you watch that?
I did like that movie. That was a great movie.
That is good.
It won Golden Globe Best Picture.
Okay, very good.
Did that happen around this time?
Around this time.
Golden Globes are in January.
Around this time.
Games of Thrones premieres.
Did you get into it?
Of course.
I'm a Game of Thrones guy.
Did you?
Oh, yeah.
We've had tons of Game of thrones people on my show yeah you've had john snow's on the show
queen cersei was been on the show oh yeah next time you come i'll show you there we had them
autograph a game of thrones uh board game can can you put a note in over there jack never to play a
poker game with the guy that has those kind of guests on his show. That's another one, too.
Yep.
On his show.
Or a guy that gets digital money.
Deep pockets.
I'm terrible at it.
You know, you keep on talking about James Cameron and everything.
Look at that.
Instagram was born.
Is that my first Instagram photo?
That's your first Instagram post.
I had no idea.
Through who say?
Oh, my God.
Yeah, I didn't even know what that was.
I was on your Instagram.
Yeah, it was like an app.
Like, I was with my agency at the time, who I'm not with anymore.
That was their, you know, you post it through, I don't know,
through that portal.
So where was my great scene?
Indians game.
Indians game.
First post.
Oh, Browns are on this.
In 2013.
Took us three years to get there, though.
So was that, okay.
So it must have been a Thursday night game that I was there for Cleveland Browns,
and I went to the baseball game the night before?
Maybe.
This was in 2013.
This is just our first post because of Instagram.
Oh, it took me a while.
I got it.
Yeah, it took you.
So Instagram was born around this game.
Yeah, around this game.
And it took me three years to get around to my Instagram game.
It did.
Is what you're saying.
I had no idea.
What is that?
What is that a photograph of you?
Some hotel.
I was being artsy.
Where were you?
That was in New York.
Okay.
I believe.
You know where that actually was?
That was a receiver's trip where we went out in, I think, like 2011 or something.
Yeah.
We went to the Belmont.
And we actually.
The horse race.
The horse race.
Right before camp broke or something.
Uh-huh.
And we saw Rex Ryan, actually, post this game.
Me, Welker, Dante Stallworth.
Okay.
Brandon Lloyd.
We all went there and saw Rex.
We were all hammered together.
He's actually a fun guy to.
I'm sure he must have found what Welker did.
He loved it.
I mean, don't you think?
Well, I think he loved that Welker wasn't in the first drive, too.
I'm sure.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah, it was.
That was our first incident.
Giselle must have loved it, too, right?
Is that too soon?
I mean, no.
To talk about how she didn't like Wes Welker very much in that Super Bowl?
Yeah.
That didn't predate you, right?
No, I was there.
You were there.
I was there, Rich.
Can't throw and catch.
Can't throw and catch at the same time.
Can't throw and catch at the same time.
That is an all-time great quote what
was life like for you in 2011 where were you at this time where was i i was uh what network were
we i was nfl network nfl yeah yeah because you called the game too yeah we're turning 20 this
year it was year eight for us 2011 um it was the friggin strike year when i lost most of my
remaining hair and follicles that sucked
holy strike year dude or the lockout year yeah it was the lockout strike obviously was lockout
we were locked out dude pro player that was just doing nfl network and during a lockout when you're
like oh yeah what are the free agent rules we don't know we're gonna have a draft i think you
know we're gonna have a season i hope you know and it was my job to talk football every day that sucked that's honestly that's why i have
so much respect for you guys how you guys cover so much just airtime well thank god for craft craft
and uh and um jeff saturday got together they did kind of crack that code apparently yeah man
um yeah i know the packers beat the steelers
in the super bowl because the jets after beating you lost the steelers they did tom brady won mvp
and we used to hear the old saying i love i can't wait to tell my guy in studio chris brockman is a
diehard patriot i saw him you saw him that you are including cleat blakeman in your bullet point here
because he is right that's a four-letter word in Patriot Nation.
Yeah.
What, because that holding call that didn't come against Carolina,
you're still holding on to that?
It was tough.
It's against Gronk, right?
Isn't that what I'm understanding?
In the end zone, and Sports Science put up the video the next day,
and then two days later, Goodell made him take it down
because the Sports Science clip proved that it was holding.
I mean, I don't think you needed –
I was at the game.
I was at that game. I don't think you needed
science to tell. I know.
John Brinkus. Unless you include
sight as science.
Eyesight. One of the
however many senses.
Technically science.
I was at that Auburn beats Oregon game.
It was in Arizona.
You see the photograph
of University of Phoenix Stadium
against Chip Kelly's Oregon Ducks.
And then Cam showed up the next year in that stadium
and set a record for most yards in a game by a rookie in his first game.
He threw for like 400-something yards against Arizona.
Are you a stat guy?
Huh?
Are you a stat guy?
I just do this for a living.
I don't know why I remember this stuff, honestly. You're a stat guy. I'm not stat guy? I just do this for a living. I don't know why I remember this stuff.
You're a stat guy. I'm not a stat guy. It's kind of like Bill.
He'd always say he wasn't a stat
guy. I'm a story guy.
I'm a story guy. I remember stories. I remember
moments. Thank goodness.
But I couldn't. It's like 400
something yards, right? What do I got? 24
of 37 for 422 yards.
Two touchdowns. One interception.
Road lost to the Cardinals. Yeah, road lost. He lost. 28-21. Right. of 37 for 422 yards, two touchdowns, one interception, and a road loss
to the Cardinals. Yeah, road loss. He lost.
28-21. Right. And then
Manning played his last game in a Colts jersey.
Because then he had neck surgery
the next year. They did.
Yeah, that's when he put on the glove.
Put on the glove. He couldn't grip the ball no more.
We were there for a
Thursday night game. It was a Saturday version
of a Thursday night game. Look up Colts versus Houston the year that they drafted,
the year before they drafted Luck.
So they come into this game.
It was the second-to-last game of the year.
I'm interviewing Jeremy Ursae on the set,
asking him plans with Manning.
Are you going to stick with him?
Are you not going to stick with him?
That was the question.
But it was either Luck or it was either rg3 and it was colts versus texans and it was a rarity
that the texans had actually clinched the division with tj yates yates okay carolina guy okay and tj
yates who i think early that year before was a throwing quarterback at the combine in that building.
Now here he is as the already crowned AFC South champ.
They've got nothing to play for.
And the Colts have everything to lose and everything to gain by losing.
And we were standing on our set watching the game unfold.
Me, Irv, Marshall Falk, who, you know, who used to play there,
and Michael Irvin.
And the fans are going apeshit as Reggie Wayne, of all people,
catches a touchdown pass to win the game.
How many seconds were left in that game?
It was like the last minute.
It was coming right down to it.
I forget, who was the quarterback of the Colts?
It was Orlovsky.
Orlovsky.
Dan Orlovsky.
I got to ask him about this next time.
Orlovsky.
Frigging Orlovsky hits Reggie Wayne,
and the place goes nuts.
24 seconds left.
Like they just won the Super Bowl.
And Mooch, and me, and Irv, Irv and Marshall were looking at each other like,
what are these people celebrating?
Like, this is Andrew Luck on the line here.
And I just, I don't know what it was, but they were going nuts,
totally nuts for this moment.
And as it turned out, they still wound up with Luck.
And remarkably, Reggiene re-signed
with the team everybody thought he was everybody thought he was going to you he he ended up with
us at the end but yeah i remember that everybody thought he's going to be a free agent he's going
to leave the colts they suck why is he going to stick around for some rookie quarterback
and he wound up re-signing with him so we thought it was not only the end of manning's era we didn't
we assumed this right there, that photograph,
was his last time playing.
But we also just assumed that Reggie Wayne,
this was going to be his swan song too.
Maybe that's why fans were cheering.
But it was wild.
It was wild, man. Sneaky good game from Arian Foster here.
23 carries, 153 yards.
He was balling it this time in his career.
Big time.
He was a baller.
And this was a time when the Texans could never beat the Colts, like ever,
because Peyton Manning owned them.
But even that, everybody thought, like, this is, of all the games
that they're going to beat the Colts, it's going to be this one.
And they didn't.
That was a wild night, man.
Yeah.
Wild.
I mean, it really didn't prove anything for the Colts either.
They got Andrew Luck, and it still didn't matter.
And now Manning is pulling off, by the way,
one of the greatest feats in the history of our profession
that you have now joined broadcasting.
Peyton Manning won the Emmy Award for Best Game Analyst,
calling games that he's not at.
That is the greatest trick, that you stay home,
you don't get on a plane.
You don't have to go anywhere.
You stay in your neighborhood.
Rich.
And you still win.
You still beat the people who get on planes to go to games and call them in a booth.
It's unbelievable.
It's the greatest trick ever.
And he owns his company at the same time.
We all know Peyton Manning performs indoors, of course.
Nice.
Yes.
Okay, it's indoors.
Great line, Jules.
I'm just saying, the guy, you got to get him out in the elements,
even though he beat us twice in Denver when we were praying for a snowstorm
in 13 and 15, and for some odd reason, it was 75 and sunny
with no wind at all, both those games.
Yeah, so instead of basically saying i'll
provide services to you for salary to get on planes to go to games to not be around for my
wife and kids and and just i gotta i gotta go places no i will instead stay, you now pay my company to call these games,
which I now don't pay you the rights to call.
Can you imagine if I reached out to the NFL,
even though I'm an employee, and say,
hey, I want the rights to call Monday Night Football.
Call ESPN. Hey, ESPN, I want the rights
to talk about Monday Night Football in real time.
I can't even imagine how much that would be.
Peyton and Eli, I'm assuming, get it for nothing.
They get paid for the right to do it, and he wins the Emmy,
the award that's won by people who go to the games.
It truly is the greatest achievement,
and he's blowing up his own business to envious revenue streams
and different opportunities.
Truly is one of the greatest achievements
anybody's ever had period i mean he's he's the best he's a revolutionary type guy he revolutionates
the pre-snap he does that quarterback play and he calls it omaha productions i'm sorry i didn't
mean to go on a tangent no and you can't say anything about about the mannings i guess i agree
you can't you can't. You can't.
You might be found in a ditch. I'm an honorary Manning.
You know that?
Or something.
Because it's kind of like a mob thing they got going over there with that family.
I'm the lost fourth Manning.
I honestly feel like Archie is making them kiss rings.
It's like Godfather type stuff.
First NFL Network Super Bowl we covered long before.
The Patriots were a twinkle in your eye,
or you were a twinkle in the Patriots' eye.
First game, first Super Bowl we ever covered
was the Super Bowl in Houston, Texas,
between the Patriots and the Carolina Panthers
when Tom Brady taught Jake DeLoma a thing or two.
Madden called it.
No, it was a CBS game, but it's okay.
Was that the first? That wasn't their first. That's okay. So, wait, wait, wait.
Who, was that the first?
That wasn't their first.
That's their third one.
This was their second one.
Second one.
Yes.
And they went to three.
The first one was Madden saying, ah, maybe Belichick needs to.
Shouldn't catch the.
Yeah, maybe they should play for overtime here with this young guy.
Okay.
Right.
So, this was the second time Brady did it to somebody,
and Vinatieri wrapped it up.
Right.
Two years apart.
But it was our first year
and so uh so we were were there and it was a big moment for us we were 11 weeks old at NFL Network
great week it was the moment where for all of us who made the decision to go to NFL Network
and work together and figure things out where we realized for sure we made the right decision and
it was awesome it was great but the
reason why i'm telling you this story is a couple nights before the super bowl a friend and i were
invited to the gatorade suite in our hotel and it is sweet when you go in there there's you know
papa shots and an open bar and this and that we went in and there was nobody there like literally
it was me and my
friend i don't know what it was it was a friday night thursday night i have no idea everyone was
at parties it's like 11 30 so maybe i've been too soon for a super bowl week it could have been a
little early but i'm there and i'm i'm i'm singing karaoke to my to no one because a good dad is
always like 15 minutes yeah but i also i'm a professional julian
i i don't want to you you can tell the people on tv who go to super bowls to party rather than work
it when they show up on friday sounding hoarse like they've been screaming and yelling in bars
and whatever i don't i don't want to ever be that person. I'm a professional. So at any rate, I still, however,
was looking for a drink
or two on the arm
thanks to Gatorade. I showed
up and I will never turn down
a karaoke opportunity. Literally
ever. Song.
What's your karaoke song?
You have one song. That's Life by Sinatra.
I kill it. Literally. Standing ovation
every time. People wanting more.
I'm not lying to you.
I'm not lying to you.
My other one is My Way by Sinatra.
And what I do is, at the end of My Way,
you sing the big finish,
and then you throw down the microphone.
Take it and literally throw it down,
walk out of the room,
and there's that big musical interlude
when he comes back, and then he sings, and by the room, and there's like that big sort of musical interlude when he comes back and then he sings.
And, you know, by the end, he did very low.
I did it by, at that very end.
So you throw down the microphone
when you bring down the house and you walk out
and then you come back, pick up the microphone
and finish, kills every time, every time.
And then the third one is Brandy, You're a Fine Girl.
I do a little yacht rock for you.
So I'm, by the way.
It's not dad music.
It's not dad music.
It's called good music.
And trust me, if you ever heard me sing it.
My dad likes that music.
That's fine.
Don't stop calling me your father.
So anyway, long story short, whatever, keep your daddy issues to yourself.
So the reason why I bring this up is I'm singing karaoke in in walks.
Every Manning, name it.
They were there.
Peyton, Eli, Cupper, Archie, Olivia, the whole gang walks in and they see me singing karaoke
to my friend.
And it's weird.
It's awkward.
Not going to lie.
But it's the Super Bowl and we're all hanging out.
And Eli started singing.
I don't think Peyton sang,
but Eli sang and I just turned to Archie and I'm like,
this is a great moment,
isn't it?
And he goes,
yep.
And I'm like,
what if,
and I'm like,
I love my parents.
I love them.
Okay.
They,
they gave me birth life,
the whole thing.
It's great.
And I love them.
Would it be a problem if I was adopted by you just in an unofficial manner as a
fourth Manning child?
He said he would. Absolutely. I manner as a fourth manning child he said he would absolutely i'm
officially the fourth manning child does he know you're jewish he does all right i'm just making
sure i'm assuming i'm assuming he does those southerns and i it's been a long long time it's
been a long long time since uh he texted me uh let's see if he has it here nope it's just and
unfortunately it's blank but when he texts me
he refers to me as son i mean it's a fact he's the godfather should i text him right now hold on a
minute let's see let's see rich eyes in here he's i think you've done this to me before in a long
time telling our karaoke story to julian edelman. To Julian Edelman.
On his podcast.
Edelman, hold on.
On his podcast.
Hold on a minute.
Let me promote, despite this being really odd,
Games with Names.
Games with Names.
Great.
Games with Names.
And then in quotations after, or in parentheses after,
can you just put Eli's his favorite manning?
Do you think this is too much information?
It's weird.
I mean, honestly, I'm texting him out of the blue right now.
Let's just stick with this.
Yeah.
Let me handle the copy.
Let me handle the copy.
You're the pro.
Guy knows how to get his copy.
Let me handle the copy.
All right, telling our karaoke story from the Super Bowl to Julian Heddleman.
We love you, and we'll send you your tax money soon.
Okay.
And I'm like, can you please confirm that I'm unofficially adopted?
Now, does he pay you guys all little?
By you.
And your lovely family.
All right.
Hope you're well, Rich Eisen.
Okay?
Let's see if he responds.
And if he doesn't, by now, I'll you the the answer and you can post it we should
make a win bet on if he now dude i'm an nfl employee i don't know what you're i don't know
what you're saying what are the over what yeah they're caesar's guys they're caesar's guys oh
they're caesar's guys is that you up on the screen there yeah i like caesar salad what is that that
that was when did you look like that?
When did that ever happen? That was my conquistador look.
Very good.
All right, I'm sorry.
I'm taking over again.
It's all right.
You just –
The offense, the ball, do my job, and, you know, we get a nice return.
That's just a little bonus.
And how satisfying is it when you get into that end zone?
What's the first thing you're thinking about?
Do you look back and do you look to see no flags?
What are you thinking about?
I'm not going to lie.
You know, I was thinking about the flag thing because of the Chicago game.
Right.
But, you know, it's just you put so much time and effort into something.
And, you know, when 11 guys do something right for six, seven seconds
and you score the touchdown and, you know, just that, it's just very,
you know, it's awesome because.
Come a long way on the English.
We come a long way on the English.
Impressive.
That's impressive that you were echoing Bill's sentiments right there.
You learned early on, right?
What are you talking about?
It's the guys pulling together for six, seven seconds.
It's kind of beautiful.
You're notoriously known to do the 40 yard dash.
Yes, sir. In a suit.
Yes, at the combine.
Like, are you taking this for real serious?
No, never have, although- Have you ever pulled something?
Absolutely, one year.
I forget which one.
It could be 2010, 2009 or whatever.
I didn't run it very well.
First of all, I used to run it literally in dress shoes, like lace-up dress shoes and like an idiot.
Did you get on some waffles now?
Dude, it was terrible.
Yeah, now I'm running in like proper footwear because the last thing i want to do is blow out an achilles for this stupidity but um but starting about um seven years ago is when we started doing
it for charity which is pretty cool for charity what charity saint jude children's research
hospital we've raised almost seven million dollars which is uh with this nuttiness that was born in
out of sheer boredom like anything that you you know and working in live television now that
sometimes before a broadcast sometimes when you're taping things you're just standing around of sheer boredom like anything that you you know and working in live television now that sometimes
before a broadcast sometimes when you're taping things you're just standing around or sitting
around and you're falling asleep and you're just like what is going on around here when are we
going to shoot this thing and that's what it was in 2005 for the combine was about two hours before
nfl total access i'm sitting next to terrell davis uh future of Famer. And I'd look down. I'll never forget.
We were in the old RCA Dome.
And you could hear the buzz of the lights and the air conditioning
that held up the bubble like the old Carrier Dome.
Yeah.
And so I would sit in there.
Well, Carrier Dome, isn't that where you were when you once upon a time
FaceTimed with Brable, right?
With Brady, right? Brable was on the FaceTime. thought that oh it was that meant that uh that he was going to tennessee
going to tennessee yeah you know what i'm talking about i do i've actually been there so anyway so
i'm sitting there totally dude i'm telling you i don't know why i remember these things so but uh
i'm falling asleep and i turn to terrell davis and i'm like hey td how fast do think i can run the 40 he goes what do you mean i'm like how fast you think i can run the
40 he goes right now and i'm like yeah and he laughed and i cursed at him and i said watch me
do it and i went what was his number he didn't give me a number he just laughed like i couldn't
do it and i'm like so i went down to the field and i had no idea because the crew was on break
that there was somebody in the truck hitting record and somebody on a camera was recording it
and i ran it and they surprised me with it on nfl total access that night
six seven seven embarrassed and now we i always see you going against the like your time and
they know they because now years later yeah they had the the technology when they started
moved to lucas oil that you can overlay one over the other and it led to some really slapstick funny moments where you know uh i'm
running against rg3 and he's off the screen and i'm barely at yard two or they give me a 10 yard
head start on somebody who's 350 pounds and that guy catches up and runs through is this pre-rg3
getting gms to call him to come back and play because he he knows he's
is this pre or post i i love rg3 that number that's up there in 2021 he ran he ran with me
uh at the in the rose bowl um and he did run like a 4-4 man he's for real track guy hurdles right
he was a hurdle guy real he'm serious. He is for real.
So he's run for charity.
He's run for me on behalf of my cause, and he couldn't have been nicer.
Two knee surgeries, too.
He's for real.
Still going.
He is for real.
We'll be right back after this quick break.
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All right, Jack, set the stage for this New York Jets.
Let's get in this game.
In the game with names.
What is this game about?
What are these New York Jets about?
We touched on it earlier, but I mean, this was kind of the high watermark for the Jets.
Last playoff game, of course.
Best season since 98, 11-5.
Coming off a season where they went to the afc
title yep the year before so this makes back to back uh finish with six straight road wins
these guys are road warriors uh traded for cromarty and holmes the offseason prior to this
those are big ones so it's cromarty beasts great toe touch touchdown he had in this game
like just like yeah is that a wes walker thing
oh yeah okay didn't even mean to be and it was okay um that was great this was also the hard
not to eat awareness on the sidelines i know he's put awareness he's a buckeye buck i can't forget
this was a hard knock season gave us the classic wow let's eat a damn snack yeah yeah this is the
one stat that any hard knocks is one of the only there's only been one team to win a playoff game that's been on Hardenox
I guess it's this team
I heard that stat somewhere
wow
no stop
keep going
that's kind of the high level
it's LT
it's Braylon Edwards
it's Antonio Cromartie
I mean those are the guys.
And what about these?
We hit the bats here.
We were 14-2.
Didn't we beat this team like a week before?
14-2.
I think it was 45-3, they said, after the game.
Rex Ryan buried the football.
Yeah, I remember that.
Buried the ball.
Gronk's rookie year.
McCourty's rookie year.
Traded Moss in October.
Hernandez's rookie year?
Was it?
Yeah, same year, dude.
Come on, get with it.
Is that guy?
I should know that.
Traded Randy in October.
Oh, I remember that.
Bummer, but we brought back Deion Branch.
This was a long hair Brady season.
Had the flow coming out of the back of the helmet, as did you.
Coincidence or was that purposeful?
We were just on the same page, trying to get on the same page.
Ben Jarvis Green Ellis.
I have not heard that name in a long time.
Went for over 1,000 yards.
Led the team in TDs.
Went in trouble, called Ben Jarvis Green Ellis.
The dude knew how to read the gap.
He could always make the right cut.
Yep, yep.
I tried to replace him.
He just outplayed everyone. Next coach of the Patriots led the team in tackles, right? That's right. Ger right cut. Yep. Yep. I tried to replace him. He just outplayed everyone.
Next coach of the Patriots led the team in tackles, right?
That's right.
Gerard Mayo.
Yep.
Okay.
Gerard Mayo.
And then Dev made a Pro Bowl as a rookie.
By the way, he's killing it as well.
Yeah, he's, I mean, those guys are made for TV.
Right.
Those guys are just.
Yeah, Jason's been great for good morning football.
Yeah.
Okay, here's the lead up.
Look at this. Look at you guys having the numbers, the stats, the games. just yeah jason's been great for good morning football yeah okay here's the lead up look at
this look at you guys having the numbers the stats you know we got a couple things here over at uh
games with names incorporated backslash.com i can't believe the jets were nine and oh like ever
in my life but that happened they were nine and oh this year oh that year well they were actually
pardon me they lost their first and won nine in a row. Beat the Patriots in week two. We played them late in season two, didn't we?
Yeah, that was the...
Then they beat Indianapolis to get to the game.
So they slayed the previous year's dragon.
This was the revenge tour season.
Then the Jets went into New England.
I thought it was going to finally happen.
I really, really thought after this game, you know,
with LaDainian Tomlinson and Braylon Edwards, Michigan man,
and Sean Green and all of those guys.
It was working.
You thought Sanchito was going to bring it all home.
I did, yeah.
I thought Big Ben, like this was Big Ben.
Like, sorry, Big Ben.
It ain't happening.
I literally thought they were going to slay every possible dragon.
And then, of course, they did not.
And they have not been back in the playoffs since.
Yeah, they were capped out, so this was it.
This was like their last shot.
All in, baby.
You know, this was it.
I just remember when we threw that pick six,
I think it was on the second drive.
Was that the first drive?
We threw the pick six on the screen.
Brady was throwing.
I don't think it was a pick six.
It was a pick.
It was a pick six.
It was Algie Crumpler ran him down.
Remember that?
Oh, he ran him down.
Yeah, Algie with the hustle play.
Then that led to a Nick Fulk missed field goal.
Nick Fulk.
Which is odd.
Yeah, he never misses field goals.
I know.
And then he made a lot of field goals for us in that stadium.
So, of course, it didn't feel great that we were down.
We, like I was playing.
Jets were down.
And then, you know know something like that happened and
you got zero points out of it like because again it's it's one of those proverbial games
where you know i feel like that way or after a long ass beating that my school took to ohio state
that when michigan plays ohio state you've got to take advantage of every opportunity you cannot leave turnover points
on the table you cannot make a mistake on third down to keep your you know defense on the field
you cannot shank a punt you cannot miss a field goal you have to take advantage of every opportunity
otherwise you're asking for trouble and then the jets the second quarter hit and i
i couldn't believe it i mean you know take a 14-3 lead of course you know brady doing his we'll score
you know you guys are the king of that scoring last and then scoring on the other side of halftime
yeah but 10 point swing usually always always always always always i think bill was the one
who's essentially with that with you guys and brady made it vogue to you know win the toss
and say no thanks like that's i think that was about it yeah let the defense go out put the
pressure on right because you knew you know that you'd score first because Tom was just going to be Tom,
and you were going to be you, and everyone else was going to be you.
I wasn't me yet here.
I was still Slapdick.
I know that, but I'm just saying you were going to be.
I'm just throwing it out there.
When you became you, that that's the way it was going to be.
But I thought, again, we're going to do it for LT,
and that LT was part of this win
because how many times was Brady standing in the way?
I mean, like, honestly, the number of Hall of Famers,
number of Hall of Famers that played at the wrong time.
It's just like, you know, the number of players
that played at the wrong time against Tiger,
the number of players that played at the wrong time when Jordan,
I mean, Jordan bagged Ewing, Jordan bagged, name it.
He bagged pretty much everyone. He bagged pretty much everyone.
He bagged Olajuwon until he left, and then Olajuwon had his,
and that was the end of that.
I'll tell you what, this game had bad juju from the jump
just because with the whole West situation,
it gave New York a little hope,
and then also the complacency that kicked in
after kicking the teeth into the New York Jets
like three weeks before.
Like, we beat them 34-3.
I mean, it was bad.
What is it, 35-3?
45-3.
45-3.
45-3.
And then, like, so, like, I think that, and then...
But, I mean, but Bill didn't say beforehand, like...
Yeah, he did.
He had to have, because it's the same thing that happened,
you know, in 07. You know you know i mean but it wasn't it's not like you won 45 to 3 in giant stadium over the no we had you can't win until you keep from losing and we tried to lose this game if you look at the
turnovers we didn't convert on third down rex had a really good plan on third down where he was doing
this blitz zero thing early in the year and we we kind of found it in that 45 to three.
And then on this game, he was dropping everyone.
Remember, he was P dropping everyone.
And Brady had a whole bunch of time.
And he just we couldn't get anyone open because he had, you know, they were dropping eight.
And they were only rushing three.
You can make the case that this was Sanchez's best game ever.
I mean, mean in a couple
explosion plays he but he did what you have to do and this is exactly the sort of shit that we're
talking about with Zach Wilson right now like just make the friggin layups make the plays let your
running game do it the grounded pound like you know why can't you know Dalvin Cook and Brees
Hall be the Sean Green in LT and And I know what I'm saying.
Punting's a win sometimes.
Do it.
For a young quarterback.
Certainly when you've got a defense like the one that they're fielding right now.
Field position game.
To make it somewhat cut right now.
You've got to play the game the right way with a team like the Jets right now.
And I have to also just point out,
I'm not saying that anybody that's currently running the ball is LaDainian Tomlinson.
He is a first ballot Hall of Famer for a reason.
Yeah.
But damn, man.
Resolves electric.
That was it.
And just Bart Scott coming in and, you know,
the number of times that Rex would just write checks with his braggadociousness
and his comments about not kissing Belichick's rings,
which were perfect at the time.
It was fun.
That's exactly what the Jets needed coming off of the Bruce Coslett era
and things of that nature.
Just coming in, somebody just putting his you-know-what on the table
and saying, this is it.
Let's go.
And Bart Scott was like the flag carrier of that thing.
I remember Bart Scott getting right up in Billy O'Brien's face one time.
I don't know if it was this game or another one. he literally like they were like nose to nose and he said he said something crazy like
fuck you something and like billio goes fuck you because billio was a firecracker and i was that's
what i knew that was crazy and then he did the post-interview.
And so with Sal Powell, where do you think that ranks?
Oh, it's great.
I mean, dude, there's a meme.
I mean, it's still for.
Can't wait.
He was so pissed off.
I know.
And that's what we were feeling.
Shit.
Rogers was there.
And I can't believe four fucking snaps in 75 seconds.
It's just, you've got to be kidding
me you know like it was set up for this sort of thing and at any rate i mean this was this was
great what how many times have you used that gif like on your text chains with all your friends
every now and then of course i mean like this is this is it but it now it's it's so damn long i mean
seriously people have been bar mitzvahed since this happened you know when they've been born i mean
geez yeah um not uh not great since then but that was a great night that was amazing that was that
was a tough one that was a very tough one uh best wash receiver to join the Patriots as we clip it off.
Torrey Holt, Reggie Wayne, Ocho Cinco.
I don't want to do that.
Ocho Cinco.
You're not a wash.
No one ever washed you.
Why do the Jets and the Pats hate each other?
Is that just New York, Boston?
I think it's New York, Boston.
Bill, the whole napkin.
Well, first of all, Parcells was the one who went from New England
to the Jets and then took Curtis Martin.
My favorite.
You know, like, my favorite, Martin.
From Boomer?
Yeah, I mean, so that was big.
But I remember being in the Meadowlands Jets Patriots.
They played a wild card game once upon a time,
but really it was Jets, Dolphins, and Marino fake spiking them
more than anything else.
It really wasn't Jets, Bills.
It wasn't Jets, Patriots when I was growing up.
It was Jets, Dolphins because of Marino.
And it was Shula and Don Shula for the 81 AFC championship game,
or 82, which one year it was.
And they had a great running game.
Great with Freeman McNeil to bring it all full circle.
And Don Shula just left the tarp off the field
when it poured the night before because he wanted a mosh pit.
Richard Todd threw a bunch of interceptions to A.J. Dewey,
and I remember that, and i hated the dolphins
hated him and then the patriots and the jets just it blew up when parcells you know gave the team
over to bill and he stepped down right and because he looked at the owner and he's just like i'm not
working for this guy i think i don't know what it was i've never really had a conversation with him
but he was the head coach of the jets for for two days and he
signed a cocktail napkin saying i would resign as the hc of the nyj and then craft you know paid
what it took to get him yeah by the way great move great move and then um you know lightning
struck with 199 overall pick and the fact that um even though I've heard multiple times
from multiple people that Brady looked better than Bledsoe
in that training camp.
We've all heard that.
And I don't think Bill would have ever benched Bledsoe for Brady.
And, of course, it was a jet who ushered it in.
Who they just paid.
Mo Lewis.
No, they just paid Bledsois no they just paid right 100 million he was the first
nine figure yeah uh contracted quarterback and player in the nfl and so they weren't going to
do that so of course it was a jet and mo lewis who blew up you know bledsoe's innards sent him
the hospital and brady comes trotting out and truly the rest is history and i honestly tom is one of my favorite people
on the planet that i've gotten to meet um and chat with his parents i ran into his parents
after your super bowl win in atlanta yeah they were on the street walking from one hotel to
another i was walking from one spot to another and i saw them miss brady's the sweetest human
dude those people they were but just to see their faces with their super bowl rings that they had on from previous ones oh yeah but
this being the one where that was the one where you know twitter was as big as it was at the time
as a new sort of uh um outlet you know yeah spot to share real-time thoughts.
Everyone's like, this is Garoppolo's team now at halftime.
This is over.
Brady's finally over.
The number of times you've heard that, it's stupid.
I get it.
But it was absolutely the conversation at halftime of that game.
Brady's toast.
He is over.
This is the end of it.
You've got to go to Garoppolo.
Dilfer?
I don't know who it was, but it was mostly every human being
with thumbs, man.
I'm serious.
I remember.
That's what was happening.
But seeing his parents,
they were so excited.
They couldn't have been...
She was battling cancer right there.
I know.
It's really just...
It's one of my favorites.
It's safe to say you love the Patriots.
You know what?
I respect the hell out of them.
My family loves the Patriots.
If the Patriots and the Super Bowl and the Jets aren't.
Just like separately as humans and people.
Belichick working the NFL 100 all-time team show with him.
Was truly a top five highlight of my career.
The guy knows football.
Being around Belichick for two days,
Veil down, himself, being himself,
being a collaborative part of a terrific television program was truly one of the highlights of my entire life,
let alone career.
Like I told you, Kraft helped birth NFL Network.
He wrote the recommendation letter for my wife to go to college.
He is incredibly generous.
Jonathan donates tickets and parking passes to the Jimmy Fund
that my brother-in-law helps run an event every year for the Jimmy Fund.
They're like, anytime, I send an email,
anytime it's within an instant saying, we're in.
I mean, they couldn't be more nice and supportive, all of them.
I've loved meeting Randy Moss, you, Brady.
I mean, Matt Light is one of my favorite people.
Okay, I can go on and on and on and on.
But collectively, I despise you.
And I wish for nothing but the worst for you when you take on a Jets team,
which is why this is my game with name right now.
If you don't mind me saying that.
I can't wait for you to throw on a Patriots hat and just, you know.
To do what?
What would I do with it?
I mean, what else?
I mean, Mr. Craft, RKK.
I love them all.
You call them RKK.
I still call them.
RKK, right?
RKK.
I mean, it's.
For sure.
They couldn't, they will bend over backwards to support NFL Network, which puts a roof
over my head.
My wife, the mother of my children who love the Patriots.
It's all good.
It's great.
But I'm still, I'm still, but I have to be myself.
Yeah.
You know, I'm still, I'm still the kid from Staten Island deep down.
Yeah.
You know what I mean?
You are, but you've been, you know.
Even though I know it makes, again, I just told you how much I love Belichick, you know,
but I think he'd respect this.
I think he'd respect this.
Bill loves it.
Bill loves hearing me do his impression.
Don't let him fool you.
Every time.
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We got to name this game, so it's the Can't Wait game.
Yeah.
And we score the game presented by Win Bet.
Okay.
The stakes of this game. Yes. What are the stakes? presented by win bet. Okay. The stakes of this game.
Yes.
What are the stakes?
One out of 10.
10.
We're going to go home.
Jets, Patriots, one and done it.
Getting back to the Superbowls.
Rich, we've had 18 and one on here.
It's win or go home.
This is like life, blood, stuff.
Star power.
What's the star power?
Tom Brady's in it.
10.
10.
You're in it.
Wes Welker was in it.
Rex Ryan and his feet were in it.
A lot of stars. Gameplay.
You played in it.
What would you rate it? I would say it was a dog shit
game. Why? Because
of the result? I mean, we
couldn't get the offense going. This is
offensive league, baby. Alright, so you want to give it an 8?
Give it an 8. Let's give it an 8. Give it an 8.
The name of the game.
The can't wait game. I mean, it's not up there with everything else.
It's not up there with immaculate reception, the holy roller, the drive, the fumble.
It's not up there.
So I'll give it a six.
A six.
What's our average there, boys?
We're not math guys.
Well, I mean, 10 plus 10 plus 8 plus 6.
It's 8 and a half.
8-5.
There we go.
8-5.
Where does it rank?
Look where it ranks on all the people that we've gone.
I think this is fair.
Wait a minute.
Right between 28-3, Falcons Patriots Super Bowl, and 07 Fiesta Bowl.
I loved that game.
That was an awesome.
That might be number one in my books.
What did you say?
Statue of Liberty?
Zabransky?
Andrew Peterson?
Terry Zabransky?
The underdogs?
Is that the one where the guys proposed at the end?
Yes.
Ian Johnson.
We got proposals.
We got Statue of Liberty.
That's sweet, but who cares?
Even a New York guy, he would think that a play design name.
It's a lovely statue, but come on.
I'm sorry.
I don't know.
It's not what this show's about. It's to have a conversation. It is. We're all about a good, healthy debate. I'm sorry. I don't know. It's not what this show's about.
It's to have a conversation.
It is.
We're all about a good, healthy debate.
We embrace it.
I can't believe Arch Manning hasn't responded yet.
I'll let you know when he does.
You let us know.
Do we miss anything, Jackie?
Quick stat.
Well, we'll count that.
Rich becomes the third Manning brother to join Games with Names.
Oh, we have the third Manning on Games with Names.
There you go.
Who's the one who hasn't come on? Cooper?
No, Cooper hasn't been here yet.
But he is a Fox guy, so I think
we could get Cooper.
My youngest son's
name is Cooper, and sometimes we'll
call him Copper or Cooper.
Is his name Cooper?
That's how they would say it.
I like that.
It's a cool pronunciation. I've seen it. That's how they would say it. Yeah. Kupfer. Kupfer. I like that. Yeah. It's a cool pronunciation.
Kupfer.
Yeah.
I've seen it.
I wonder how Arch says Hanukkah.
I think he pronounces it Christmas.
Okay.
By the guess.
That's a pro right there, guys.
Thank you.
That's a professional.
Thanks, Rich.
Thanks, Rich.
You got it.
You're coming on with games and names, bro.
You got it.
You want to plug anything?
Just the show that you've been on, Rich Eisen Show, 12 to 3 Eastern every day.
The Roku Channel, SiriusXM.
I do a podcast called Overreaction Monday every Monday.
That's doing very well.
And just started a podcast network.
It's called An Empire.
Just look it up, people.com.
That's what they call it, An Empire.
Hell yeah. They do.
And my wife, Susie
Schuster, does one with Amy Trask of the Raiders
called What the Football Every Tuesday.
Great names. These are all names
with podcasts. We've got to get your wife
on. By the way,
I don't know if you'd be able to
handle that episode, but yes,
she would do this show. We've got to get her on.
For sure. Thanks for coming on, Rich. You got it, man. Thanks, Rich. able to handle that episode but yes she would do this show you got to get her on for sure thanks
for coming on rich you got it man thanks rich boy what an interview rich was a beast what a guy pro
pro pro dad pro dad pro fan pro everything anti-patriots but i think he secretly loves
no he loves the patriots his whole the the woman he loves that he had beautiful children with who all love the Patriots.
I mean, it's natural that a little of that blood is going to become patriotic.
100%.
He has such a wealth of knowledge, and he's seen so much, and he retains everything.
The memory was insane.
I mean, he came on.
It was his show.
Oh, my God.
I said, Rich, let me get out of the way, dude.
He started reading the line. All right, Rich. I messed up the tele on. It was his show. Oh, my God. I said, Rich, let me get out of the way, dude. He started reading the line.
All right, Rich.
I messed up the teleprompter.
He corrected me.
That told me.
He was coming from my job.
I'm over here Googling until my fingers fall off, and he's got it all right here.
Yeah.
Insane.
I was terrified doing them because it's intimidating.
Doing them.
Pause.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, because I went to his operation.
I said it.
You go to that operation, you're 30 yards from the interview
in like a beautiful, crazy studio thing.
Looks so sick.
You go in there and you hold it toe-to-toe.
You got a green room.
You go on there, it's bing, bang, boom.
Then he's out.
Hey, we got a cool setup here, though.
Oh, we got a great setup.
We got a cool spot.
Yeah, he didn't like to lean down.
Yeah, I could see like the couch, it's deep,
but you got to have the right body.
Tells me old Dick's a little buttoned up.
Yeah, I mean, this ain't the ergonomic desk chair.
No, I mean, this is a guy who runs 40 in a suit.
I love him.
He's my guy.
Got to be able to hang on a couch, though.
So what if the feet dangle off the edge?
He gives dad vibes.
Yeah, big time.
You know?
We love that.
He wants to have his posture.
And, you know, hey, there's a Brooks Brothers sale.
Let's go check it out.
Quarter zips, baby.
Quarter zips.
We got to get him back, get his wife on, get his kids, anybody.
I got to do more of his show.
Makes me better.
He makes me better.
You know, so that right there shows you guys.
Best on best. You know, like, he's a Jets fan, and I like learning from him.
It's not all hate between New York and Boston.
It's not all hate.
Right, Rocky?
All right.
Should we roll into some of these fan questions?
We got them coming in.
Let's do some fan questions.
I mean, we got these things.
We got a stockpile, a stockpile built up let's just dive into them pulled a handful here the first one
we're taking is from zachary bannon so the question was how was rookie dinner for a seventh rounder
and how was it as a veteran well my my rookie dinner we went to Capitol Grill over on, it used to be on Newberry.
They changed it.
They went to Boylston.
Ah, yes.
It was the old little one.
Yep.
Tucked away near Mass Ave.
And we rolled there, and like there's a paying scale.
So if you're the first pick, you pay half of it.
You know, and then each round it goes less and less.
And like I had to pay like $2500 bucks, which was a lot of money.
And I, my signing bonus was 49 grand.
You know what I mean?
So like I was hurting, but we rolled up to this thing and we tried, we made the mistake.
We made the mistake as the rookies.
We all, we all had a little meeting.
We're like, all right, we'll give them a menu.
We'll give them a set menu and stuff and a set amount of drinks.
Veterans came in there immediately.
Yo, give us the Louis XIV or XIII.
We want the whole bottle.
Make it two.
Brady comes in 45 minutes later.
He orders like a $35,000 000 bottle of wine takes one sip and leaves
like we were there for four hours we were bleeding steaks kobe everything i think the bill was like
i want to say i want to say the bill was like 200 grand i think i, it was like 90 grand or something crazy.
Because this was, what, 2009?
I want to say Pat paid like half of that.
And Pat was, I mean, he was our, Pat Chung.
Yeah, Pat Chung.
And, you know, he was our first pick, but he was like early first of the second round.
Right.
He was a second rounder.
So you ain't got that.
That's a lot of money.
Damn.
They said, fuck your prefix menu.
They said, prefix menu, get it the fuck out of here.
Like, I just remember Tom came in for five minutes,
ordered like the most expensive bottle of wine that they had.
Like, people come out with white gloves to deliver and like decork it.
And the wine come, what are they called?
Decanter?
No.
Sommelier?
Sommelier comes out and is like mr
brady would you like to taste this i think he just did the tasting he stuck around for like
five minutes after that and left sitting here just counting my chickens
jeez next we have a question from awakeakeAlive00 on Instagram.
What would your advice be to an Eastern European
who wants to go to a U.S. college and play in the NFL?
Get over here as soon as possible.
Yep.
You know, you got to get in.
Get in and learn football.
You know, that's playing.
I mean, when you go and you're competing against guys
that have been doing this since they were eight years old
or it's a cultural thing here.
It's kind of like if you were to take us
and drop us into Eastern Europe and say,
hey, how do these guys become soccer players?
You know what I mean?
Not true.
Because there's guys that come over from different countries.
Vollmer.
And what is it?
Kuhn.
We had Kuhn kid.
We had Vollmer. We had Kuhn Kid We had Volmer
We had
Yac
Yac
And you know
It just
I love them
They're all great players
But
You know
There's just
There's some
There's something
About like
American football
This kid comes from like
Either Florida
Texas
California
You know
He needs football Same passion This is necessity, California. You know, he needs football.
Same passion.
This is necessity.
Oh, 100%.
You know what I mean?
These guys, it's been in their bloodlines for generations.
Their dad played.
Their moms were the cheer.
Like, there's so many things.
And so, like, when you see that kid across the line
who's not from here, and I'm trying to help you out,
so I'm telling you,
get here as soon as possible so you can adopt these things
and these necessities to play in the game.
You got to shake that rawness off you.
But, you know, when there's guys that are uncomfortable
and don't know that and, like, don't have the technique
that are just naturally built into you
because you've been playing football such a long, you know, time,
it's hard for those guys.
It's very hard.
Seriously, get your ass over here.
I mean, Sebastian, he came over.
He was an unbelievable football player.
I think he moved to Houston to learn how to play tackle
and then came and had a great, great career.
But, like, I remember Vollmer.
Like, he's very German.
His accent always made me laugh but you know like he just he was so in tuned and and so like so studious of the game so i might
basically get over the u.s as soon as possible i hope i don't piss off sea bass for saying anything
or yach or coon yeah get over here asap because these kids are already trying
to take off everyone who's playing right now in the national football league's head amen
get on over here in eighth grade there's one there's someone there oh yeah who's the next
parsons let's bring back nfl europe maybe i need the rind fire i know i wish i got to play in nfl
europe would have been so fun so like play for the frankfurt argonaut what were they frankfurt Let's bring back NFL Europe, baby. I need the Ryan Fire. I know. I wish I got to play in NFL Europe.
Would have been so fun to play for the Frankfurt Argonauts.
What were they?
The Frankfurt something?
There was the Hamburg Sea Devils.
Oh, the Frankfurt Galaxy.
Most titles in NFL Europe history.
Yeah, the Frankfurt, right?
Yeah.
Good pull, bro.
Barcelona Dragons.
So sick.
All right. This one comes from Instagram as well.
NGLad23.
Hope the Europeans don't hate us after that.
No, they'll love us.
I mean, but this is American sport.
We got fans all over.
I was looking the other day.
I scour these charts.
I think we're the 90th sports podcast in South Korea.
South Korea.
We got to get over there.
I got to get to Seoul.
I'm down, bro.
Let's do it.
What's our next question, Jackie?
All right, let's get into it.
NGLad23,
how close was Julian
to playing for Tampa?
I wasn't really that close
to playing for Tampa.
You know, TB hit me up
and he was kind of feeling it out.
You know what I mean?
It wasn't an explicit.
It was like a...
It was kind of,
but it was more of a sarcastic. Like, do you want to come in? You know, it mean? It wasn't an explicit. It was like a... It was kind of. But it was more of a sarcastic.
Like, do you want to come in?
You know?
It was one of those.
And then, like, you look like...
And I thought about it for a second.
And I was like, I don't know, man.
Like...
Foxborough forever.
Foxborough forever.
All right.
And our final question comes from The Jennifer Effect on Instagram.
What's the best way to break a sports curse burn sage spellcasting
some weird ritual i've never really been a part of a crazy curse when i was a kid
san francisco i mean we had i guess the giants the rally monkey stupid rally monkey what was that anaheim that was Anaheim yeah yeah like
we were winning and then I guess the Warriors but they came on now they're like the Warriors
so I never had to like even think about curse actions or reactions or ritual type things
yeah like like kind of like the the Rex Ryan we talked about burying a football
to get that stank off him
when the Pats beat him that season with Rich.
Anything as a player that you did?
I was just very superstitious.
And if, like, I listened to, like,
In the Air of the Night by, like, Phil Collins.
Like, I want to say against Miami of Ohio,
my junior year, and we ended up losing the game.
I never listened to it again.
Like, fucking hated that song.
Anytime I heard it, I would turn it.
Just because, like, I had that picture of me trying to focus.
So I'll keep it routine.
And if I remember something that I did out of the ordinary
for that specific game, I will never do it again.
Like talking to a celebrity?
Fucking John McEnroe. Jeez, Johnny Mac. did out of the ordinary for that specific game i will never do it again like talking to a celebrity fucking john mackinrow jeez johnny mack come on the pod but we will not forget that moment ever yeah it was the first time i ever talked to someone pre-game in the locker room celebrity
i mean we had john carrey we had bon jovi you know john bon that's my guy you know but we always
saved it for after never before john mackinrow comes up i I just watched Borg vs. McEnroe.
I was in the tennis fever.
We ended up losing the game.
It was Brady's last fucking game. Thanks, John McEnroe.
Yeah, I got his cleats back.
I took those cleats.
We still love you, Johnny.
So hopefully the FBI doesn't come snake me right now
like they did to the guy who stole the jersey.
We still don't know who fucking killed Tupac.
We know who got Tom's jersey. We don't know who killed killed Tupac We know who got Tom's jersey
We don't know who killed Tupac
Alright well
What an episode Jack
That was incredible
We gotta bring our A game
I feel like we have to get better
Because he just felt buttoned up
You wanna raise the stakes
You always played better in the biggest games
You podcast better with the biggest guests
I'm still not quite there yet. I'm not there yet
either, though. I think we got to keep on working.
You killed it, baby.
He's just so professional, and I just don't want
to disappoint him.
Thanks again to Rich.
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