Games with Names - “The Double Pass” with Danny Amendola | 2014 AFC Divisional Round Ravens vs. Patriots
Episode Date: January 11, 2024He’s back! That's right, we've got our pal Danny Amendola aka Coach Dola from the Wynn Las Vegas for a very special BONUS episode. Today, we’re diving into an all time classic: the 2014 AFC Divisi...onal Round game between the Baltimore Ravens and the New England Patriots. Dola joins us in studio (4:01). We head back to January of 2015 to see what was going on in the world (14:35). We run through these rosters (22:25). Then we break down this absolute classic of a game (31:04). Finally, before we hit the craps tables, we give this one a score (58:12). Support the show: http://www.gameswithnames.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Today we have
a very, very special guest.
Two-time Super Bowl champion, coach of the Las Vegas Raiders,
and our old friend, Danny Amendola.
We're doing the 2014 Divisional Round Game,
Ravens versus the Patriots, a.k.a. the pass game.
I think we ran it in a walkthrough and we missed it in the walkthrough.
In the walkthrough, missed it the night before the game.
That was the loudest I've ever heard
I mean we're down 14 twice. It's a true testament to just battling back
One time you looked at me and you said oh if I get hit one more time in the head
I see that star again. I'm gonna have to retire
We have been drinking for probably 18 straight hours.
We start fighting, pushing each other.
He gets me in a fish hook.
With my pinky, and he bites my pinky.
I almost bit it off.
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Clutch.
How do you feel now?
You kind of got those massage eyes.
How do you feel now?
I feel good, but, you know, my IT band's a little tight still.
My shoulders, I mean, it was incredible.
She got me in a figure four and was hitting my IT band.
I was like, what's going on here?
I can do a little more work on that later after we hit the craps table.
Yeah, we're going to hit the craps table.
Maybe hit the pool.
The pool open?
Pool open?
Pool looked open.
Pool open?
Yeah.
I saw some people at the pool catch a couple rays.
I love it.
I was eating my overnight oats looking down at the view.
On today's episode, we are talking about the 2014 Divisional Round game,
a.k.a. the pass game with Danny M. Ambrola.
We get into the epic comeback, the Super Bowl run,
and Dola's coaching career.
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Let's go, Jackie.
Let's go.
Let's go.
You did two wins one week?
Two wins don't make a right.
January 10th, 2015.
Gillette Stadium, Foxborough, Massachusetts.
Late in the third quarter,
the Ravens lead the Patriots 28-21.
Brady zips it to Edelman
behind the line of scrimmages to him
and Dola streaks up the field.
Is he going to throw it?
This is the Double Pass Game.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Today we have a very, very special guest in a very, very special place.
We're here in Las Vegas at the Wynn Casino and Hotel.
The Wynn Hotel and Casino with Danny Amendola, two-time Super Bowl champion,
coach of the Las Vegas Raiders, and our old friend.
Welcome.
You meet Jack?
I met Jack.
I met Jack.
Jack, how you doing?
What's up, brother?
Kyler.
Welcome back, I should say.
Actually, I have a gift for you.
I got a hat for you.
Thank you, sir.
You can wear that hat.
I appreciate that, man.
I think it's part of the props, but I felt like I wanted to come bearing a gift.
Thank you, sir.
I appreciate it.
Yeah.
How are you doing?
I'm great.
I'm great. How are you doing? Thanks for having me. I'm good. I'm good. I'm good. bearing a gift. Thank you, sir. I appreciate it. Yeah. How are you doing? I'm great. Yeah.
Great.
How are you doing?
Thanks for having me.
I'm good.
I'm good.
I'm good.
This is fun.
This is pretty cool.
Welcome to Las Vegas, bro.
Welcome to Vegas.
Viva Las Vegas.
We've had a couple of times here.
Yeah.
We, I told you not.
What did I say?
We cannot speak.
We don't speak.
We don't speak about that.
You can't speak about them.
We can't talk about it.
And, uh, D dola what we're
doing the 2014 divisional round game aka the past game ravens versus the patriots why did you pick
this game i love this game i mean we're down 14 twice it's a true testament to just battling back
battling battling back you know trusting trusting the process and just believing
in your guys,
you know?
Yeah.
Is this the greatest game
that you've ever played in?
No.
No.
No.
But it was cold.
I remember that.
It was freezing.
Freezing cold, man.
I remember our field
was frozen before the game.
I think
even the walkthrough
the night before
it was in bad shape. The top left corner? Top left corner was frozen before the game. I think even the walkthrough the night before it was, it was in bad shape.
The top left corner,
top left corner was,
was frozen.
Uh,
the grass,
the,
the turf was frozen.
It was terrible.
Oh,
how's it?
So how,
how's living in Vegas?
It's great,
man.
It's great work.
You know,
a lot of Patriot guys over there,
um,
you know,
trying to,
um,
just win as many games as possible.
And we got a good squad, man.
Everybody is practicing hard, fighting hard.
And it's fun to show up every Sunday and see what happens.
Every Sunday.
Every Sunday.
Showing up.
Yep.
I went and visited you guys this off season in training camp. And there were more people at the Raiders that I played with,
played around coaches,
everything than there was at the Patriots that I visited this year.
Is this basically Patriots in the desert?
It is basically.
Basically?
Yeah,
I mean,
Josh,
Josh and Zig have,
have come from that new England tree and they just,
you know,
brought as many familiar faces as they could
that they know they can produce on Sunday and help the team win.
Okay, all right.
I need you.
Do you need a shot or something?
Because you're giving me real media looks and answers.
I'm in the media.
No, I'm good.
Okay.
Yeah, let's rip.
Are you good?
I'm good.
Do you need anything?
You want me to just let loose and just tell you all the possible secrets?
Can we get into, how does the transition to coaching?
It's good, man.
It's good.
I was sitting on my ass watching Food Network all day.
Anytime you know what time Jeopardy comes on.
Now you're overacting.
Now you're overacting.
You're overacting, Danny.
It's a bad deal, man.
So I got the opportunity to travel when I was retired and sit in Austin and think about what I wanted to do next.
And coaching was one of those things, man.
I just love helping younger guys, showing them the ways of being a professional
and helping them with their routes in the return game, whatever I can do.
Whatever I can do to help.
I bet you're a really good coach.
And he's very, like, he's the type of guy you could put,
he puts his arm around you.
He's got that coolness about him.
Like, hey, dude, how you doing?
You're that guy.
Are you that guy?
I'm that guy, man.
You're that guy?
I'm that guy.
Now, what's harder?
Being on special forces or being an NFL coach?
Definitely being an NFL coach.
It's harder. The hours, man. Hours. We're up there at six o'clock in the morning until 9 30 at night every day Friday is my only half day and that's
why I'm here with you kicking it but it's a lot of hours man a lot of watching film um you know
just watching players on other teams and and scouting them and then doing evaluations of guys
coming through the draft process and and what we kind of want to see on our field and our team.
You were never a big X's and O's guy.
Let's just say, like in meetings, you were drawing the whole time.
You were drawing me pictures of our weekend extravaganzas
and our adventures and everything.
Are you actually, you're paying attention in there now?
I'm still doodling a
little bit you still at the same time like when you're in offense for five six at that point I
was for like seven years I'm talking about coaching coaching I'm talking about coaching like
oh yeah we're breaking it down in there full fundamentals I mean we want to play tough strong
you know fundamentally sound football so be tough, smart football team that performs under pressure.
That's it.
Is that what you're trying to do?
That's it.
Sounds very patriotic.
Speaking of the Patriots, why are they so bad right now?
Man, I tell you, they're trying hard.
I know that.
They're running fast.
Are they?
Yeah, they just haven't really got a lot of things, you know,
go in their favor.
You know, two back-to-back losses at the house,
or big ones at least.
How would you fix the Patriots?
What would you do?
I mean, you're a coach.
Coach Dola.
What would you do, coach?
That's a good question, man.
That's, you know,
get the right guys in there,
run the right plays,
score more points
than the other team
and let's go.
Anything stick out
when watching the Patriots film
on special teams anything two
rookies punter and kicker and then we got Slater running down like a absolute madman still 16 years
strong uh shout out shout out to Cap because he's still he's still he's he's a you know obviously a
very experienced the most experienced special teams player in the NFL and and still one of the
best playing at the top of his game so we got to do a lot of great things to try to shut him down.
And,
and,
um,
they got schooler.
Yeah.
They're light.
They're light.
Yep.
41.
He's,
he's,
he's a menace out there,
uh,
making a lot of plays.
And I don't,
I,
I,
I,
I,
I,
I,
I,
I,
I,
I,
I,
he's a hell of a football player.
I've seen him make some big plays though.
The block kick.
Yeah.
That whole thing.
He's,
he gets down to the field pretty fast,
but the one thing I just don't like,
he's like a,
he's a very like dap up a guy like after a fair catch,
like the other team got like,
Whoa,
is that just the league now?
Are these guys,
everyone's friends?
They're just getting soft,
man,
you know,
switching jerseys and you know,
it's,
they're just like,
Hey buddy, how you doing? So it's like like i want a guy that eats nails no on special teams he literally
would jump through this goddamn win resort hotel and casino fucking glass right now i want that guy
i want him not a guy that's gonna dap you up hey man that, that was good. Good, good job. No bro. Yeah. Can you talk about
the origin of our friendship? The origin of our friendship? Well, it all started way back in,
in Los sunny Los Angeles, Los Angeles. We were training at the same place and we kind of,
the first couple of days we kind of looked at each other and we're like, who is this guy
coming in here? I think picking up my ping paddle, thinking he's the shit in armor.
And it took us like two days to kind of warm up to each other.
I said, hey, Julian, how you doing?
Nice to meet you.
I've seen a lot of your film.
You know, you're a great player.
Yeah, right.
You didn't say that.
We should hang out sometime.
And then he's like, where do you live?
And I'm like, I'm in Venice.
Where do you live?
He's like, I'm in Venice.
And then I'll see you later at three on the beach.
And then the rest is history.
The rest is history.
Favorite story of our time in New England.
What's your favorite story of our time?
My favorite story of our time,
probably when we bought those two dirt bikes
and we were crushing Foxborough in our free time,
running from police.
I remember one time I was sitting on my couch.
It was snow. It was probably 10 degrees outside. And you remember one time I was sitting on my couch. It was snow.
It was probably 10 degrees outside.
And you took one of the bikes out for a spin.
And then you came back in and your hands were like frozen.
And you're like, I just had to run.
I just had to run from the cops.
I'm like, dude, what are you doing running from the police on a Thursday afternoon?
In our own city.
Every off season, we would always find we
would always buy something some activity some toy one year it was like remote control cars we broke
them the first day next year it was like little mini bikes we rode them for like two months yeah
we had drone we went through a drone stage one of the little inside drones in the houses
yeah drone man we played ping pong every day probably every day probably 20 games of
ping pong until one of us was muddy and bleeding muddy and or bleeding dip spit everywhere
water bottles everywhere we played in danny's old little uh he had a basement that was unfinished
at the house he was staying at and it it was like cement. And we'd just be spitting,
hitting balls.
He beat me with an iPhone.
Hit an iPhone once.
I didn't play ping pong growing up.
This guy was like,
like one of those world-class like dudes that you see in China.
Forrest Gump.
This guy was Forrest Gump.
Best hand-eye coordination.
He beat me with the fucking iPhone It was crazy
Now I got a real serious question
It's a real serious one
I want the goddamn truth
What do we got?
Now did you become an NFL coach
Just so you could get back on Instagram?
No
No?
No it's just a coincidence.
It's a coincidence?
It's a coincidence.
You're like a player on that thing.
Your Instagram's like a player.
We get fit shots.
We get shots of you with your headset on.
I've been taking notes from you guys for years, man.
What are you talking about?
We don't post game day shots like you.
Oh, yeah.
I'm not a player anymore,
so I can have my phone in pregame warm-ups.
It's pretty awesome. He's very artistic of you warmups it's pretty awesome he's very artistic of you
thank you man
he's very artistic of you
he's trying to spread
the football love bro
football love
let's uh
I remember I got back on
I was like
Julie you gotta help me out bro
I don't have
I have like three followers
you gotta plug me
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We got a segment where we go back in time to the day of the game. And we talk about pulp culture. This day, January 10th, 2015,
number one movie was Taken 3.
You watch that?
I haven't seen that.
I think I stopped that.
Who's the Taken guy?
Liam Neeson.
Liam Neeson, yeah.
So I got a crazy story about Liam Neeson.
I was on vacation.
I was by myself in the Dominican Republic.
Kind of like a little retreat type of situation. Surfing, you know, I was, I was on vacation. I was by myself in the Dominican Republic, kind of like a little like retreat type of situation, surfing, uh, you know, riding bikes
all day, you know, tennis lessons, you know, all the good stuff. And I, and I was walking down one
morning, like breakfast, like haven't had my coffee yet. It was like sleeping tripped over a
candle, candle breaks, candles on the floor is like decorative candle i couldn't see it i was it was i had sleep in my eyes candle knocks over breaks on the on the in the concrete i hear the
guy i hear liam neeson's voice in my head as i'm picking up the tape picking up the candle are you
gonna clean that up and it was in his voice bro just like the taken movies like i will find you
and i will kill you and i was like that's liam neeson and i looked up and there he was liam neeson sitting there by himself
having breakfast and then i walked up dapped him up called him a legend and then i was like
jesus christ i can't believe i thought i heard that in my head and next thing i know liam neeson
sitting right there sipping on fine coffee in the dominican i mean if you were to study your
instagram posts your thoughts become your
realities. Maybe that was your reality right there.
That's it. I saw that.
One of Danny's posts, your thoughts become
a reality. Thoughts become things.
Of him working out, getting jacked,
sprinting on the field.
Oh my god.
All About the Bass was the number one song.
How's that go? Remember that?
All about the bass.
No trouble. All about the Bass was the number one song. How's that go? Remember that? All about the bass. The bass.
No trouble.
All about the... Yeah, I mean, I didn't...
Something like that.
It was all right.
Around this time, January 6th,
Randy Johnson, Pedro Martinez,
John Smoltz, and Craig Biggio.
You like Craig Biggio.
I love Craig Biggio.
They were inducted to the Baseball Hall of Fame.
Craig Biggio was my favorite player.
I had his jersey, bro.
I remember that.
Yeah.
You loved him. What was his batting stance Fame. Craig Buggio was my favorite player. I had his jersey, bro. I remember that. Yeah. You loved him.
What was his batting stance like?
Can you show us?
Oh, man.
No, you know, he started out playing catcher.
Then he moved him, I think, to either third.
And then he went to second base.
And then from there, I was like, this is my guy.
He had a foundation called the Sunshine Kids.
And he always wore this, like, little cool little pin on his hat.
And just did a lot
for the community
in Houston
and was an awesome guy.
Wow.
What a
Biggio guy.
Biggio.
I remember that.
Bagwell Biggio.
Batten lead off
Batten's in the two hole.
Two hole.
He was always a two hole guy.
The killer bees.
You know,
two hole.
Yeah.
January 30th
Shake Shack debuts
on the New York Stock Exchange
you know this is a burger podcast
is it?
I mean we love burgers
love burgers
love burgers
Jack do you like Shake Shack?
I am a big Shake Shack guy
Shake Shack
over In-N-Out
every time
I'm starting to start beef here
wow
pun intended
let's go baby
that is
that is terrible
you're in-n-out over Shake Shack? I am in-n-out over Shake Shack yeah Pun intended. Let's go, baby. That is terrible.
You're in and out over Shake Shack?
I am in and out over Shake Shack.
As long as it's hot.
It's so good.
A fresh one.
You never have a bad experience at In-N-Out.
Bro, you can't defend the fries, though.
Cardboard joints? I like the fries.
The cardboard joints?
I like the fries.
Double baked animal style.
Let's go.
Double fried animal style.
But you know what's number one over all of them?
What?
Culver's, baby.
We're going Culver's.
What's Culver's?
Oh, Midwest joint, but it's spreading though.
Butter on everything.
I think they started in Wisconsin.
We got to check it out.
Cheese curds?
They have one here in Vegas?
I don't know.
We'll look though.
I'll have to look it up.
Daniel, what was your life like in 2015?
Man, I was living next to you.
We were balling, man.
That's pretty much it.
That's it?
That's all we were doing.
Going to LA, going to the beach, getting our work done, going to the beach, riding our skateboards around.
Yeah.
Man, those were some fun days.
Were you guys living in Foxborough this year?
Yeah.
Hell yeah.
What's our best derby story?
Did we go to the derby this year?
Yeah,
we did.
I think 2015.
Is that when?
It's the first one.
That's when,
is that when Floyd fought Pacquiao?
That was the second one.
That was the 17th.
No,
this was,
oh yeah,
the 17th.
No,
yeah,
no,
this was the same one.
Holy crap.
Good memory,
Dola.
Yeah,
well,
we went to,
we went from the derby for two days.
We went to the derby for two days.
And then the day of the race, we saw like the start of the race and then tom rallied everybody up we
went and got on some on some planes and then we we flew to the mani i was still wearing my smelly
ass kentucky derby suit was that sweating through it in las vegas casino we all were i know how many
times you think we fought how many times will we fought at the derby we fought? How many times will we fought? At the derby? We fought in Vegas
Didn't we fight on this Vegas trip?
In the middle of the street
Remember you fish hooked me?
Yeah you bit my
You bit my pinky
Yeah you fish hooked me
How do you get out of a fish hook?
You got a bite
We were in the van
Remember the back of the van?
We were in the back of the van
And rallied out
Yeah
And then we got
We hopped out of the van
As if nothing happened Just walked into the room yeah we we literally were we're fighting in the car what
sparks a fight between you guys anything anything i don't know we were just we were riled up we
let's just say we had been drinking for probably 18 straight hours team straight hours we get out
we start fighting.
And we're like pushing each other.
And then like the door opens.
We're literally in the middle of the strip fighting.
He gets me in a fish hook.
With my pinky.
And he bites my pinky.
I almost bit it off.
He almost bit it off.
I had to almost bit that thing off.
And we fought with the sunset.
Oh, it was the most beautiful fight I've ever been in
it was so beautiful
we'll have to get
the picture of that
that sounds picturesque
and show the people
I have a still frame of that
we were literally
I don't know why
why were we drinking
that day
or fighting that day
because we were drinking
because we were drinking
yeah
that's when we were
skateboarding around
oh yeah
we can't tell this
can't tell that story
can't tell that story brick and mortar
brick and mortar shout out brick and mortar we were pros we were pro skateboarders sponsored
by mountain dew yeah we were telling people we were pro skateboard photographers
we're in town for the skate for the x games yeah the x games but i don't even think the x games
were in there yeah that's they they they weren't asking too many questions so let's look at our
social media around this time.
Oh, the throw, the pass.
Man, I'm still kind of bummed
I didn't get a t-shirt, bro.
You didn't get a t-shirt?
I didn't get a t-shirt.
We're going to get you.
Can I get a catch t-shirt too
or what?
We didn't have it.
I mean,
we could have done that.
You know what I'm saying?
It's a little late
to the fire though.
Look at the Fury haircut
that you had.
Remember that?
That was a badass haircut.
That was a badass haircut. That was game day going to the Super Bowl, right? Going to the fire though. Look at the Fury haircut that you had. Remember that? That was a badass haircut. That was a badass haircut.
That was game day
going to the Super Bowl, right?
Going to the big one.
I was going to the big one?
I was going to the big one, yeah.
Suited and booted.
What about,
did Dola have social media?
No, I didn't have it back then.
Didn't have it.
I got it in like 2017.
16.
And then you went on a break.
Why did you go on a break?
Just, you know,
social cleanse. Just gain perspective on life, you break? Just, you know, gain... Social cleanse?
Just gain perspective on life, you know?
Yeah.
You know, try to build relationships in other ways.
Instead of through the internet?
Yeah.
Instead of through the internet.
But now you're fully internet.
You want to be on the internet
building relationships right now.
Full internet.
Just internet.
Yeah.
I got a lot more free time now.
A lot more free time.
DMs are open for business?
Absolutely.
Yeah.
Wait, before we leave the pass,
we sold 11,218 shirts, baby.
We were moving merch.
That night.
Wow.
Total.
Total.
That night.
A lot that night.
Sounded better.
They were up on the site ready for sale
within, I believe it was,
eight hours of the game ending.
So quick, quick, quick.
That's take and bake.
Shout out to Asaf.
Shout out Kyler on those.
Shout out.
Shout out Billy.
Sammy.
Jackie, why don't you set the stage for this?
This Baltimore team game, 2014 divisional round game.
This is a divisional round game.
Baltimore's coming off a win against the Steelers.
They come in this game as the sixth seed.
10-6 season for the Ravens.
This was the Ray Rice season, suspended before this season.
So no Ray Rice.
First playoff appearance for this team, post-Ray Lewis.
We're in the post-Ray Lewis, post-Ed Reed era.
This is a Suggs, C.J. Mosley.
T-Sizzle.
That kind of crew.
Flacco, Justin Forsett, Justin Tucker.
Steve Smith Sr. on this team.
Steve Smith Sr.
All in out.
What do you think about the proliferation of going to guys adding Sr. once they have a kid?
Say it again?
Like, guys, now you see they have a kid.
You add Sr. Before, he was just steve smith you know
what i mean yeah i don't know what do you make of that move i think that's i don't i don't know
i don't love it what do you think about that i mean i kind of like it actually you should you
you're gonna have danny amandola senior on your on your coach's jacket i mean kind of showing your
son extra love giving him the junior name and also taking the senior.
We get it.
You had sex.
All right.
Keep it going.
Keep it moving.
10-6 team, though.
Coming into Foxboro, tough as the Ravens always are.
We didn't play. I say that the Patriots didn't play him in the regular season.
That's rare, too.
We don't play in the regular season.
Yeah.
Usually we catch him.
I feel like we played those guys all the time.
We did.
What was your mindset
going into when we were
playing Baltimore?
I remember we tried to put
a little bit extra
schemey plays on Suggs
and their D-line
because they kind of got,
because we play them
once a year,
they kind of started
to pick up on our signals
and our calls
at the line of scrimmage.
So I remember we put,
Avalanche was our call,
so it's usually a run to the right.
And then we actually switched it
and made it a run to the left,
which would actually have me,
instead of chopping Suggs,
pull around and try to like-
Block him.
Block him, block him.
And I was like,
I don't know if this is the best idea,
but I'm going to go ahead
and hope that he can be fooled
by the change of play call.
But they're just a savvy team.
You play against each other
once a year
they're tough as hell
and
they play good football
Flacco was playing
really good football
back in the day too
so he was
you know
dishing the ball out
to all those playmakers
and good backs
I used to hate
playing these guys
and it stemmed before
you were even with the Patriots
they came and
knocked us out in 2009
came in
on our home field and beat our ass.
They beat the shit out of us.
I think, Ray, I think, who was it that almost,
Ray Lewis almost knocked your tooth out or something?
No, Ray Lewis hit me so hard.
He hit me so hard.
I scored a touchdown and he kneed me so hard on my right butt cheek
that I had a hematoma.
And I looked like I had one J-Lo cheek.
I had the swelling.
My ass was so big.
I couldn't sit down for three weeks.
They had to drain it.
Like,
I don't think I would have been able to play the next week.
It was so bad.
We,
thank God we got eliminated.
I mean,
it was,
he,
he,
he need me so hard.
Ray Lewis knocked me out of game too.
Like two years before or two years later,
I started going to the right side and a hello to Nata goesnada goes, hey, buddy, your sideline is that way.
Yeah.
I was like, oh, I had no clue where I was at.
Took the helmet on that one.
They're notoriously a tough team, man.
They've always been a tough team.
Who was the team you hated playing the most?
Man, you know, I think I just remember playing the Bengals.
It would always get super chippy.
I remember Coach Belichick would always tell us to, you know,
no after the whistle nonsense because it's going to get,
there's probably a fight going to break out.
And that's when a lot of the Bengals were getting arrested.
So we had a formation called Bengal.
And it was a set of three formations bangle tiger and what was the
other one i don't remember but tiger was the f used to move around and so tiger was you you
remembered by or brown it was brown tiger bangle yeah they were all same with the F, X, and Z on the same side. Yeah, it was empty backfield too, wasn't it?
Yeah, I think it was.
It was empty.
And Brown, the F would be all the way outside.
Yeah, the Z was in the slot.
The Z was in the slot.
Tiger, we learned that the F would go to the slot.
The Z would go inside.
And we remember that because
it's a T word and it's no we remembered
it because of
Kevin Falk yeah he
was always the F and that's when we put him
in the slot yeah and then when the F
was all the way in
it was bangle and we learned that because
our coaches would say the bangles are always in jail
so you just gotta you know they always went
to jail that's Chadio
remember Chadio
Chadio
shout out Chadio
you'll remember this one
because
they have to all the way in
like he's in jail
and the Bengals are always in jail
remember that
yeah
you'd always have quirky ways
for you to remember shit
I mean
that's a sign of a good coach though
you need to have that
Jackie
let's jump into this
New England Patriots team
in 2014.
12-4 team.
12-4.
Most notably,
you'll remember,
this is the on-decent
Cincinnati year,
speaking of the Bengals.
Remember that?
We got our
Monday night football.
Got our teeth kicked in.
Yeah.
They're not good anymore.
Yeah.
Fucking Dilfer.
We're on-decent.
And then,
a seven game win
streak
yeah
did we lose
again
then lost to
Green Bay
26-21
to snap that
streak
that's when our
team got formed
yeah
in San Diego
yeah because we
lost to Green Bay
and then we went
to San Diego
yeah
old Qualcomm
baby
Qualcomm
that was fun
then beat the
Dolphins
you got any
stories about San Diego San Diego of course yeah old qualcomm baby welcome that was fun then beat the dolphins you got any you got any stories
about san diego san diego of course i remember we were uh you and i would go for long walks on the
beach after practice and uh one time you looked at me and you said doh if i get hit one more time
in the head i see that star again i'm gonna i'm gonna have to retire I said alright bro I'll watch out for you
and tell you and see if you
get your bell rung and ask
making sure you're not in concussion
protocol I think he saw
the star like seven more times
that year and played for like seven more years after
that too and fuck that star
that's just a test
fuck that star
fuck that star
what was our pact on punt returns oh yeah Fuck that star. Fuck that star. Fuck that star.
What was our pact on punt returns?
Oh, yeah.
So our pact on punt returns was if one of us would get knocked out,
then the other one would come help, come peel us off the ground so we didn't have to miss the game and then possibly the next game
because we had incentives on playing.
So we wanted to play and make money and not sit out.
So it was like, all right, grab your right knee. when i come over to you after you get done on on punt return
get grab your i'll come pick them up and i'll say grab your knee grab your knee and so we're
trying to beat the system and he come in you say hey dude it's it's yeah it's november 3rd it's
about two o'clock we're down by seven we're in the third quarter you get off you get off the
fucking on the sideline i would just they'd bring in the independent quarter you get off you get off the fucking yeah on the sideline
i would just they'd bring in the independent doctor it's fucking two o'clock we're down by
seven it's about 2 30 get out of here yeah proactive proactivity proactivity oh my god
i love that also let's not forget this was jimmy g's rookie year rookie year yeah
imagine when you drafted him that you became not as
not the hottest guy
on the team anymore
oh I beg to differ
are you
you're taking
dolo over Jimmy
all day baby
I think I am too
of the cool factor
yeah
got to
got to
but Brady
I'll let you guys
argue over this
you think Tom was mad
that Jimmy was so good looking
I don't know
Tom
I mean his pockets make him look good too good looking I don't know Tom I mean
his pockets make him
look good too
but I mean
don't matter what he looks like
when you're rolling up in a Wraith
and he fucking got a sick watch on
and your jacket's
ten thousand dollars
and your chin can
hit you from a mile away
yeah
and you got
just
blue steel eyes
I know
cool factor
this was also Malcolm Butler
signed as an undrafted free agent.
Oh,
he had a good camp that year.
He had a really good camp.
He was feisty.
He's the only guy that I've seen that could look back for the ball and run
faster.
Yeah.
He could track the ball,
look back and keep his speed.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was pretty incredible.
He had a great camp,
man.
He was at one of our best players in camp,
undrafted free agent,
undrafted free agent worked at popeyes west
alabama west alabama he had long arms and he was strong yeah what else about this game the lead up
to this game jackie we uh touched on a little bit in the teams but you guys were coming off a buy
here number one seed in the playoffs you get the buy the uh as we mentioned earlier the Ravens had just gone into Heinz Field knocked off the
number three seed Steelers sent Big Ben packing um the uh Dola mentioned it earlier cold as hell
20 degrees at kickoff wind chill even colder I was curious here what was your guys approach
to that bye that kind of that that uh postseason by does it kill the momentum
is it good you like like what was the routine in foxborough i loved it too i mean it gave us a it
gave us a full week to heal but we would also have hard practices too so we would kind of you know
stay sharp we had this goddamn blue and white scrimmage we would be scrimmaging in the playoffs
man and i mean it was pretty much live too. Yeah. No refs,
but we'd split the team up into two and go at it
on like that Thursday,
I think.
Yeah.
And then,
I mean,
it was,
I mean.
It gave us some time off,
but the practices that we had,
we'd have like maybe one or two
on that bye week.
They were hard.
Yeah.
That was when we had
that blue and white scrimmage
and it was snowing
and the fucking field was
frozen.
Yeah.
And we went into the stadium and no one liked practicing the stadium because it was turf.
Make you hurt so much the next day.
Yeah.
Man, the bye weeks were always the best.
We'd maybe shoot down in New York City, grab a bite.
Maybe a cocktail or two.
Get ready for a little Einelli baby effinelli
effinelli
do you have any
stories in New York
that
that you and I
can talk about
on national television
this is
national podcasting
national podcasting
ooh
we have
we went down there a lot
I remember one time
it was in the off season
and
Julie and I went down there
for like four days,
ripped it.
I had to go back for like rehab or something.
And then Julian was supposed to come back with me and just never showed up to
work for like another two weeks.
He was,
he'd send me pictures of like 10 30 of the morning,
just drinking whiskey.
I'm like,
what?
Come back to just broke up with a girl.
I'm like, get your ass back I just broke up with a girl. Come back. He's all heartbroken.
I'm like, get your ass back to work.
I know.
He was out anyway.
It was like...
I was like, I lost my friend to New York.
That's when they started calling me Gatsby.
Kudavidi saying, Gatsby, when you coming home?
Come back.
Oh, my God.
You're supposed to come back.
Oh. Come back. Oh my God. You're supposed to come back.
Or what about the time where we stuffed 15 people into a six person elevator?
Oh my gosh.
Yeah. We're on our way back to your spot.
And 15 people in an elevator in the elevator stops working.
It breaks.
People were in there like literally like claustrophobic like crying like so mad i still
was on my shoulders trying to open the roof full full fbi weight limit reached the fire department
had to come in in uh and open up the top and everybody climbed up the elevator and
and got out a dola go we're going to a random another unit we go into another unit another
apartment it wasn't our apartment
right they let us in there yeah bill goes right into the fridge grabs a beer
fucking fire department they're like oh he's fucking assholes damn it dolan edelman
they're all jets fans and shit they go we should have just left them yeah thanks fireman ed yeah
fireman ed new york's great man The Met Gala was fun
I remember we were late
To the Met Gala
Shocker
And like
You could only get in
If you're coming
You gotta get in
At fucking 850
And if you're 851
You're not coming
And it was like 849
And Julian
We were waiting in this line
And there's like a
There's like a long line
Of cones here
And it was like
The line's like another 30 minutes
Like we're fucked
And Julian sticks his head out You can see his beard he's got his shades
dip in his mouth and then he goes to one of the police officers hey buddy you
look like a fucking Jets fan the guy walks over to the to the suburban he's
like you know what the fuck no I am a Jets fan but you guys he moved the cones
out of the way you guys need to get up right up here the guy moved we cut 30
minutes worth of line all because we're talking shit.
The only cool Jets fan in the world.
I love it.
The New York police are always so cool.
They're ball busters, but they're always like rad cool.
Yeah.
They show love.
They show somewhat love.
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the pass beat by beat well we got to start by the full season i really i think we never we practice
it a couple maybe three times whether it be in a walkthrough.
I thought we put it in like week two.
We put it in week two.
We actually ran it against, we had it called with an alert versus KC.
You needed to have the zone, right?
Yeah, versus Kansas City on that Monday night game.
And they gave us a man look.
So we had to check out of it and run a slant backside with JoJo LaFell
who took it to the house actually.
But because they gave us a man look, we couldn't run it.
So we got called off and then we didn't see it again until I think we ran in a walkthrough
and we missed it in the walkthrough.
In the walkthrough, missed it the night before the game.
Yeah.
So the coaches are freaking out.
They're like, we're going to scrap it.
I'm like, we're good.
These slappies can't complete a pass.
And then they called it in the game, and we got the right look.
And then ended up working out, man.
Remember this ball?
Let me see.
I remember the way it feels.
Oh, yeah, that's nice.
It's a little wobbly, though.
Was it a complete spiral?
No.
It was a little.
I just wanted to get out there.
A little wobbly.
I thought I overthrew him.
Nah, but. Like, Dole ain't going to gonna get this he ain't got that speed man hey little joker run catches it little high step into the end zone tracked it down that was that was the loudest i've ever heard
foxborough well we were down 14 points twice in that game that was the second time yeah i tied it
up at 28 i tied it up at 28 they went up 14-0
then we went to 14-14 then they went up 28 to 14 yeah you remember the lead up to this
josh no i don't yeah josh just came up to me in the drive before he goes i don't need to give you
any lead time for for the double pass do i i'm like no i'm good yeah sitting there shitting my
pants for this influencing out there?
Yeah.
Thinking about the walkthrough the night before.
Yeah.
What were you thinking when you let that ball fly?
I thought I overthrew you.
No, I was good.
I was jogging too, bud.
I don't know.
Getting right in stride.
Didn't even have to turn the jets on.
I mean, I didn't, you know, when the guy's that wide open,
you just gotta
fucking put it out there yeah gronk was blocking for you yeah gronk right after fucking gives me
a big old bear hug grabs me lifts me up the funniest thing is the next day in meetings
julian walks in with an ice bag on his shoulder like he just pitched like nine innings shut out no hitter gotta predict the room he threw one pass
I gave it last too
like I gave it last
I'm like oh sorry coach I had to get ice bag
for my arm
he cracked a smile
on that one I think
it was fun
let's talk about the origin of the Baltimore and Raven formations.
Remember that?
Yeah, I think we got it out of...
Who, man?
Who, man?
But we got it off of Arkansas, maybe?
Yeah, it was Alabama used it against LSU earlier that year.
Alabama used it against LSU.
We got it from a college game.
Yeah, I was paying attention in meetings.
When I doodle, I pay attention better.
However, yeah, we got this from college.
And we just kind of displaced everybody
and made it as legal as we possibly could.
And Vereen being on the line.
Covers.
Yeah.
And you being on the line, too.
How did it work?
I forgot how it even worked.
Because I think Shano...
Shano...
Was ineligible.
Turned into the tackle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then he couldn't go
more than three yards downfield
to be illegal men downfield.
And then it was just kind of...
We were kind of just trying to hit...
Hit slant routes.
Yeah.
Hit slant routes to Hooman
and let him roll.
Yeah.
Essentially,
I'm going through the explanation here.
The Patriots were playing with four offensive linemen.
The center, the traditional right guard, the right tackle, and the left guard.
Like Dola said, Vereen is technically playing right tackle.
Yeah.
Even though he's lined up in the slot as a running back.
Yeah.
Hooman got one, and then I think I got another one.
Didn't I get one?
Did you get the other one? I thought I got the Raven. Yeah. Yeah, got one? And then I think I got another one. Didn't I get one? Did you get the other one?
I thought I got it.
I got the Raven.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Cause there were three.
They were so pissed.
Remember that?
They were so mad about this.
They were trying to like petition it.
Yeah.
I mean,
after this,
I mean,
in classic Belichick form,
everyone whined to the league and this was outlawed that off season.
And even before the game, before the game, coach Belichick can go over there and tell him that, Hey, we're going to the league and this was outlawed that offseason. And even before the game,
before the game, Coach Belichick can go over there
and tell him that, hey, we're going to run this play, be
alert. It's not going to be illegal.
We've done our homework and
this is fully legal play.
Fully.
I mean, Harbaugh was so pissed.
Look at Harbaugh.
He's illegal. I like Harbaugh
though.
Good ball coach
he is
he always has a team competitive
yeah
and then
the further fallout
from this
there's speculation that
this
kind of getting shown up
on such a big stage
and then Brady's comment
afterwards which was
basically like
read the rule book
kind of might have played a role in Deflategate.
In Harbaugh
whining to the league
and alerting the Colts and the whole
Was that it?
That's a theory, which I kind of buy into.
This was Deflategate
season, huh? Was it?
It was.
The very next game
when we blew the brakes off of Indianapolis.
Ran for 300 yards.
LG.
Yeah.
I caught four balls that game.
I didn't feel any air out of the ball when I caught it.
I didn't either.
In fact, didn't they have the same amount of balls that had less air?
I think atmospheric pressure.
That's what it'll do.
Bill Nye the science guy knew. I know.
He came out and defended us right away.
I know. No, he did the opposite. He didn't?
He did. Yeah. Fuck Bill Nye.
Gotta wheel his ass out on that fucking TV
that he used to wheel in his school. He ain't been on TV
for 20 years. Get out of here.
Bill Nye. Bill, come on, Phil.
We had the Harvard. Didn't Harvard
do a case for us? Yeah. Who do you
trust? The guy that comes on the fucking
VHS in your middle school
or Harvard?
Harvard.
I'm going with Harvard.
Harvard.
We all
no one knew the term PSI
before that.
Now it's like
my dad's a mechanic.
Tire pressure
my dad knew it right away.
Yeah that's right.
Yeah.
That's
you know
it's like when your tires
cold air
tires get a little deflated.
In Frank, we trust, baby.
In Frank, we trust.
Yeah.
Which Raven, which Raven, like, was the biggest trash talker?
Ooh.
Because these dudes used to talk.
They used to talk shit.
They used to talk shit.
Suggs, dude.
Suggs.
But you couldn't do nothing about it because he's 10 feet tall.
Suggs was huge. Yeah. Suggs. But you couldn't do nothing about it because he's 10 feet tall. Suggs was huge.
Yeah.
Suggs.
And he was great.
Yeah.
T-Sizzle.
I'd never fuck with T-Sizzle.
Yeah.
He could just grab you and throw you probably 10 yards.
Yeah.
Like a little ball.
Who's the unsung hero this game?
Ooh.
Hmm.
I would say Dola.
I don't know
I would have said Dola
Dola balled out
he had two touchdowns
didn't you have two touchdowns
yeah
you had that one down the sideline
and you had a broken ankle right
not that year
uh uh
the year
the year after that
year after that
maybe two years after that
five catches 81 yards
two tutties
yeah
you had that one down the sideline
where you made
you broke a tackle
yeah
and I jumped in yeah I got to the sideline where you broke a tackle? Yeah. And I jumped in.
Yeah, I got to the sideline and you go,
did you just do a jumper?
And I was like, yeah, I did a jumper, man.
You just did a jumper.
You just did a jumper.
It's always tight when you get to dive by the pylon.
It's like a fucking yard sale.
I love that.
And the knocking over.
I was mad.
He was knocking over.
I was like, yeah, that's fucking sick.
Yeah.
The fun over. I was mad. He was knocking over. Yeah, it's fucking sick. Yeah. The fun fact, during this season, against the Colts, Jonas Gray ran for what?
37, 204 touchdowns.
Following Thursday, his phone didn't charge.
He missed the team meeting.
We cut him, didn't we cut him?
Yeah, he got cut.
I think he lasted the whole season.
I think they brought him back on practice squad, I think he missed the squad meeting the next day and then that was
it this is where Tom this is where Belichick tied Tom Landry for most postseason wins and Tom passed
Joe Montana for most playoff touchdown passes so this was a pretty historic game this was I mean, two 14 point comebacks for a 35-31.
I mean, this game right here.
And Super Bowl win.
Slingshot.
A whole lot of things.
A slingshot.
Us going to the Derby.
It's slingshot.
Baltimore trying to say something about fucking balls and deflate gate to the Colts.
And Colts, you know, this is a slingshot game.
Which is more of an impressive comeback, though.
This one or the 28-3 Falcons Super Bowl?
I mean, this is super.
Yeah, 28-3, man.
Because technically, this is more point.
Like, you were down 28 if you combine those two for a team, but you got to...
Something about splitting them up and you're right,
the Super Bowl, 28-3. I mean, got to, something about splitting them up and you're right, the Super Bowl, 28 to three.
I mean,
got to go with that one.
Three, four score game
as a 28 to three,
whereas it's two 14s
is just two scores each.
That's true.
Good math.
And 28 to three game,
Dola was responsible
kind of for that second half
when he came up with
got to believe.
That's what Dle used to say.
He came up with that.
He did not.
He did not come up with that.
I came up with that playing ping pong without question.
No, you didn't.
Without question.
And then he stole it right up.
What are you talking about?
You always gotta believe.
That's bullshit, Danny.
No.
Nah, dude.
We made that up.
I made that up.
Did you see the t-shirt?
Yeah.
If it's not on the t-shirt,
you didn't make it up.
All right, yeah.
Where does the pass rank among
our favorite on-field memories?
It's up there, bro.
I think it is.
It's up there.
We had a lot of good memories on the field,
but there's five years of...
But that was us incorporating...
We both got a touch ball in one play.
Yeah.
Pretty tight.
I got a touchdown.
You got a touchdown.
I threw one.
It's sicker that you got to throw it,
but, you know.
And you had a couple throws?
A couple throws, yeah.
You have a touchdown pass
yeah
I got
I got
two
St. Louis
two or three
I got
two touchdown passes
Dola could sling it
two touchdowns
Dola could sling it
we asked Gronk
we just had him on
a few weeks ago
top five most handsome
Patriots
he put you I think think, at two?
Where did he put Dola?
Two?
Two, I believe.
I got to go review the tape, but I think it was two.
Two?
And did he go Jimmy G on one?
He might have gone Tom.
Tom won.
Tom's always won.
Smart man.
What's your top five, Danny?
We got to go.
We got to go TB number one,
just because he's just so.
You're going TB.
You're going.
You're going.
You're going.
You're going TB over Jimmy?
Jimmy's.
Pure good looks?
Yeah,
Jimmy's handsome Italian Scorpio.
You know,
we got the same birthday.
Same birthday?
Same birthday.
November 2nd.
I'm older than him,
obviously,
but we got got I remember that
one birthday you had you were having like a where were we or downtown strip yes I know uh
we're at we're at we're at Strega and I have like you know all my family there I told Julian to come
and by the time Jules got there at like 11 he was wasted and then he walks in
with a
I'm with like my uncle
like we're wearing
nice suits
didn't we just win
an AFC
we just won something
no it was November 2nd
so we weren't in the playoffs yet
I think we had a game
a couple days before
and then
so we're wearing
like nice suits
and we're having
a nice dinner
it's like 30 people
in there
and I'm sitting there
and Julian
walks in with a bottle
of champagne
and just sprays me
with a bottle of champagne in the middle of the restaurant.
Now I'm soaked with the restaurant.
And then somebody wouldn't grab me a t-shirt from like the Bruins stand
downstairs.
And like,
I'm wearing now I'm wearing a Bruins tee around.
I went right up into that.
I went right up into that restaurant.
I went straight to the bar and like,
give me,
give me a champagne
right now
give me a whole bottle
and just went in
didn't say anything
and just started
spraying Dolan
we went through
we went through a thing
we went through a champagne
I got some great videos man
of after we won
the Super Bowl
of just
literally like
tell them the story
about how we were
after the
the first Super Bowl
we won
how we hired that guy
to just follow us around with a broom.
We went to, I forget the club.
We went to the club in Boston.
And we just said, give us 40 bottles of champagne.
I don't know why.
We just started spraying each other.
It was because of 14.
Remember 14 in LA.
It started, it originated in LA at like the beach club, but we'd go,
we hired this guy and you, and,
and we got 40 bottles of champagne and they brought them out in a wheelbarrow
and then we're like, follow us. And we just walked,
we walked around the whole place and we'd either spray it and then,
and then bust it on the ground
or just bust it on the ground.
And then we gave a guy some money
to follow us around with a broom
and like a pail
just to pick up all the broken glass.
All the broken glass.
Just like complete destruction.
Although we're walking down the street,
wheelbarrow,
and then a guy with a broom
and we were just chugging champagne,
spraying it and breaking glass
that's how you know you're balling
yeah
it was a snowstorm that night
yeah
it was reckless
we started the night
by coming off the
there was a lady stuck
we got out of the car
yeah
we just won a Super Bowl
we got out of the car
to push her out
yeah
she was stuck in the snow
yeah some old lady
on the bridge dude
remember that
yeah
dude good Samaritans over here
she was stuck old lady she's Louise what remember that yeah yeah good samaritans over here she was stuck
old lady he's louise what about that harvey weinstein story hit the med gala oh yeah so
we're pissing we're in the we're in the we're in the uh bathroom at the and i didn't know who he
was at the time neither and and so we kind of knew he was like you know big new york guy like
fucking loved what do you like the jets or the giants giants giants so we're pissing right next to harvey weinstein and uh and jules is on one side i'm on the other and and harvey harvey's
like as long as i'm in hollywood you will never work in show business playing for the patriots
and i'm like and i go i go harvey as long as we're playing for the patriots the giants will
never win the super bowl. God, his ass.
Did you sneak a peek?
I heard he had like a fucked up little dick.
No, I didn't see it.
I didn't sneak a peek.
One time I saw Alonzo.
Are you a bird watcher, Jack?
I saw Alonzo morning. We got a title for those guys in the shower.
National Geographic Bird Watchers.
I buy it.
You watch your birds.
I was at the Fountain Blue in Miami.
This was years ago.
And I was peeing next to Alonzo Morning.
I complimented his Rolex.
Complimented.
What about Mike Leach?
Any Mike Leach stories?
Man, the best, man.
He's awesome.
We called him Hammered once, didn't we?
Always, man.
He's the type of guy that we'll call him Hammered at like 2, 3 in the morning,
and he'll talk to you for like 2 hours.
2 hours. Yeah. Me and Chris Long used to do that all the call him hammered at like two, three in the morning. And he'll talk to you for like two hours, two hours.
Yeah.
Uh,
me and Chris long used to do that all the time too.
It's,
uh,
is awesome,
man.
Rest in peace,
Mike.
He's,
he's a,
uh,
he was a special,
special person.
I got to spend a lot of time with him in Key West,
uh,
about two years ago.
Um,
in the off season,
sat at his bar,
drank with him for three hours,
talk shop,
talk football,
talk life.
He had,
he had such a unique way of just life lessons.
And just he'd be talking about women's softball and try to,
and you'd get a new perspective on life by the end of the story.
He's just like such an amazing individual, man.
And a huge influence on my life.
R.I.P.
R.I.P.
What about Kingsbury?
Oh, Cliffy.
Yeah, he's in USC living the dream right now, bro.
Is he going to?
So do you think this whole thing with,
I heard Caleb said he's not going to go to certain teams.
Do you think a team may hire Cliff to be a head coach to flourish?
Ooh.
Well, Caleb?
I mean, I think Cliff is an asset to any team he's on.
You know, he's been a coach on every level.
And, you know, he's a smart offensive mind.
And you see he knows talent when he sees it.
Screw football talk.
Tell us a good story.
Any good Cliff stories we got?
Cliff, he's in right now.
He's in the penthouse at the Ritz-Carlton living the dream.
Living the dream.
Coaching SC.
Yeah.
So he's got, he's,
he's,
he's got,
he's in a great situation.
Best Dana Holgersen.
Holgersen.
Holgersen.
Dana Holgersen.
You met him actually
one night.
When?
Here in Vegas
when you and I were
walking around the Cosmo
and he was playing
blackjack one night.
I'm like,
yo,
this is my guy.
You got to meet him.
And, uh, we chopped him up. We, I think we went out that night with him for a couple hours before it got a little he's a Houston head coach right yep yep he's a great he's a great dude man
he's he's my Mr. Miyagi of football like he recruited me out of high school and taught me
how to play receiver yeah and really gave me more about you know what it takes mentally to
you know approach the game and and And he's a great coach.
Old Houston.
Remember we talked to Houston?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, my God.
We walk in to talk to the University of Houston.
We told this.
Go ahead.
You told it.
It's me and Jules are talking to the team,
and Major Applewhite is the head coach of the team.
And Major Applewhite is a legend in Texas.
And Jules gets up there
first thing he says oh I'd like to thank
coach Applegate for
letting us come out today and I'm like
it's Applewhite you idiot
and then he goes alright
I'd like to thank coach Applewood
bro it's Applewhite.
He's a legend.
I told that story to Ricky Williams.
Yeah.
Because Ricky Williams.
Played with him.
Yeah.
Applewhite is the reason why Ricky Williams started smoking wheat.
Applewhite, I think what he messed with,
he was banging Ricky's girl while they were in the backfield together.
That's too much.
And then the Applewood story is perfect. together. That's, that's too much. And then,
yeah.
So the Applewood story is perfect.
Yeah.
I mean,
we got him back.
We showed him it was boss.
Yeah.
We're Ricky guys.
Hey,
Applewood.
Hey,
Applewood.
They just,
he just gave me like a,
like a five minute introduction to about everything.
You showing hell of respect.
I go,
all right,
thanks Applewood.
I love that move.
Hey boys,
this is what we got to do.
Forget everything your coach just said.
Yeah, don't listen to him.
Fucking Applewood.
Oh, man.
Jackie, we miss anything?
Oh, we got a couple little notes here.
We're talking Mike Leach.
We're talking Dana.
Don't sleep on Iowaowa wesley and a lot
of good football knowledge came out of a little school iowa wesley and also belichick no that
was wesleyan in mass here in mass yeah oh connecticut sorry sorry sorry dola two career
touchdown passes in the nfl we were on that oneules, a notable touchdown pass in the NFL in this
game, went back
to Kent State where you played
quarterback. Did the reverse.
You had one catch in your college
career. I did. Do you
remember it? I do. It was a reverse pass?
It was Louisiana Lafayette.
Yes! It was a
throwback? I threw it and I
threw it back and they threw it back to me
yeah
September 10th
2011
it was like a 10 yard gain
it was on third down
first down
first down
that'll work
bro one catch 11 yards
that's sick
you got it
you nailed it brother
yeah
we
we lost the game in 2012
what's that
20 to 12
we lost
yeah
we
we didn't
we didn't go in there
we played Louisiana Lafayette it was like was it in Louisiana yeah it was hot What's up? 20 to 12. We lost. Yeah, we didn't go in there.
We played Louisiana Lafayette.
It was like.
Was it in Louisiana?
Yeah.
It was hot.
Hot.
They used to have a sign like for intimidation.
They'd have the thermometer that was like definitely like 15 degrees off.
15 degrees hotter. They had a sign next to it that said.
It's 98.
No, it said 13 feet below sea level.
Yeah.
Is it like Aquaman's about to pop out?
I don't know.
I think it's just for humidity.
Yeah.
More humidity.
It was fucking hot as balls.
It's humid down there.
It's hot.
Yeah.
They used to have to put sand in the field turf because the rubber would melt.
Yeah.
They put sand in there.
It would melt to the bottom of your cleats too and gunk up. Yeah. It put sand in there. It would melt to the bottom of your cleats and gunk up.
Yeah. It was hot.
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Alright, let's score the game
Presented by Winbet, of course
Is this the greatest game of all time?
Let's score it
Stakes
High stakes
High stakes
Super high
So, one out of ten
What do you score it?
Stakes
Ten
Ten, playoffs
Win or go home, baby
Alright
What's the Super Bowl stakes?
Twelve I like that answer Ten 10. 10 playoffs. Win or go home, maybe. All right. What's the Super Bowl stakes? 12th.
I like that answer.
10.
10.
Star power.
We got any stars?
What were the stars besides the players?
Any stars at this game?
Wahlberg sighting or anything?
Not that I see in my records here.
By the way, I have beef with Affleck still.
Once we get him on,
we can squash it.
Yeah,
we'll squash it
once we get him on here.
That's the only way
to squash it.
Yeah,
I remember watching ESPN one day.
He was going on
like a circuit
promoting some movie.
He said Patriots receivers
were dog shit or something.
Yeah.
Come on, Ben.
We were drinking with you
and Matt Damon
at the fucking Met Gala.
Doing Boston accents. Boston accents. He said we were great. you and Matt Damon at the fucking Met Gala. Doing Boston accents.
Boston accents.
He said we were great.
He lied to me, Ben.
He fucking lied to me.
I remember one time I walked into a party in LA and Ben was there and Matt Damon was there.
And it was like, Matt Damon, Ben didn't recognize me, but Matt was like, that's Amendola.
And then Ben Affleck comes up to me.
He's fucking tall, by the way.
Yeah, he's tall. And he and he goes look at him he's so
fucking little and he picks me up like a baby
bro and Matt goes put him fucking
put him down
I can't believe Ben Affleck
just picked me up like a fucking baby
star power what's our
one out of ten here? I don't remember anybody
there
Brady you guys, Bill.
Sex.
Yeah, I mean.
If Ray and Ed Reed were out there.
Yeah, it's different.
Would have bumped it up, but it's ain't that easy.
T-Sizzling got that star power Ray Ray and Eddie had.
Sorry.
And I love T-Sizz.
Gameplay.
This is a fucking great gameplay game.
Come back down 14 twice.
Good football.
I mean
zero out of 10
what is it?
It's up there
but I say eight.
I can say
it's north of seven and a half.
Yeah.
North of seven and a half.
I like it.
The name
Double Comeback
sounds like a sex position.
It does.
I don't know why.
I gotta get my
It's Vegas brother.
It's Vegas.
It's because we're here at the Wynn.
That's right.
Hotel and Casino in Las Vegas.
And I was at the Wynn,
Boston Harbor,
a couple days ago.
But the name,
what's the score of the name, Dola?
What do you think?
It's pretty tight, man.
I mean, it's up there.
Pretty tight?
Pretty tight, man.
What do you think?
How does this compare
to all the other names
of your games
let's see
eight and a half
eight and a half
nah
seven and a half
seven and a half
eight
eight
eight
eight
eight
so what's our
seven and a half
is our
eight
eight
eight flat
eight's the total where's it ranks Jackie Tyler this one There's eight, eight, eight flat.
Where's it ranks?
Jackie, Tyler.
This one is coming in just in front of Superbowl 27 Cowboys bills with Michael Irvin.
Um, and it is just above the Celtics-Lakers wheelchair game.
So it's sandwiched in between those two games
for an eight flat.
Did he shit his pants?
We asked him.
I actually just saw Paul Pierce at the fucking...
We flew out of LA together.
No way.
Yesterday.
He's celebrating his birthday.
Happy birthday, Paul Pierce.
You want to tell him the story about
hanging with Paul Pierce?
I guess everybody knows that story.
Can we tell that story?
Hood Slide?
Hood Slide?
I've told it a hundred times.
It's a good one, though.
Start seeing Hutch across the front of a Benz.
Wasn't there like a jewelry heist across the street and bottles of tequila?
Yeah, fuck that.
There was a raid and we were forced to drink for three hours.
Forced?
We just got eliminated.
Was it somebody's birthday too?
Eric? Might have been Eric's birthday.
Yeah, it was Eric's birthday. Shout out Eric.
Shout out Eric. Litmo.
We miss anything, Jack?
No, we were good about
a couple corrections. We're good, babe.
You got any plugs? You want to plug anything?
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on Instagram.
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Add Danny Amendola
80?
No,
no 80.
No 80?
Just Danny Amendola.
That's it.
We got it.
We got it.
Do we get
no special forces
or anything coming up?
No,
they're in their second season.
I think three episodes
have played so far.
Des Bryant's already out.
Already out?
Already out.
Why?
I don't know.
After competing,
are you watching as a fan now?
I caught up the other day.
I watched two of them in the first,
you know,
in an hour.
And it's pretty interesting.
They're in the cold weather this year.
So I don't know.
I would have done that.
That's tough.
Cold's hard.
Frozen.
I'd rather go with heat.
Water.
Heat's easy. Yeah, heat's easy. Cold's hard. Frozen. I'd rather go with heat. Water. Heat's easy.
Yeah, heat's easy.
Heat's easy.
And it was dry heat?
It was dry heat.
It was like 115 during the day.
It was hot, but not really that hot.
And then at night it'd get down to like 75.
You live in Austin.
That place is fucking hot.
Yeah, it's humid.
In the summer.
Humid, hot.
Oh, it's as big as bats.
Backyard.
There's tarantulas in your backyard.
Yeah, no question. I saw a tarantula. It was the hairiest spider I've ever seen. Backyard. There's tarantulas in your backyard. Yeah, no question.
I saw a tarantula.
It was the hairiest spider I've ever seen.
Yes, we have tarantulas, scorpions, snakes.
We got the whole thing.
Raccoons, armadillos.
Whoa, look at Danny.
Leading the charge.
We're checking out his Instagram right now.
He's my guy.
This is really good podcasting.
If you look, I mean.
Go back.
Go, Kyler, go up.
Who do you pay to get these photos?
These are great photos.
Look at the new England Patriots shirt.
That's,
that's tight.
A little bit.
That's my thoughts become things,
bro.
Look,
check it out,
man.
That's what it is.
Thoughts become things.
I knew it was an Instagram post.
I didn't even know it was,
but it just sounded like a Danny Instagram post in my head.
So you were thinking about it. So maybe that thought is a reality. post in my head. So you were thinking about it?
So maybe that thought is a reality.
I thought about it. You thought about it. And then it
actually happened.
See how that works? That rocks.
You know,
I miss you. I miss working with you.
I love you. Thanks for coming on
Bubs. Love you too brother. I miss you.
Now you want to hit the tables? Let's get out of here.
Let's get out of here. Let's get out of here.
What an episode.
You always get a couple good stories out of that little handsome joker.
Cool, dude.
What a cool dude.
Cool is the other side of the pillow.
I mean, I thought you were cool, but don't let's drive one.
No, he's way cooler.
No.
He's pretty cool.
You know what else is really cool, Jack?
Who's that?
The Wynn Casino and Hotel Resort that we're at right now.
The coolest.
We're shooting here.
The coolest.
It's so cool.
In the words of Billy Madison.
Chlorophyll?
More like borophyll.
Let's get some of these bypasser questions.
Steve from Green Bay.
Why is Aaron Rodgers the best
QB ever? Well, Steve,
he's not the best QB ever.
Where's my ISO cam?
Pipe down, Steve. My broadcast coach told me I got to flirt with that ISO cam.
I got to start practicing it right now.
No, Steve.
He's not the best ever.
He's a great thrower.
He's a great thrower of the football.
Unbelievable.
Probably the best I've ever seen.
But I didn't get to see Dan Marino.
That's recency bias.
Everyone says Dan Marino could just sling that thing.
What do you think, Jackie?
That was a well-thought-out answer.
Was it?
Supported it well.
Recency bias.
I like that.
Yeah.
Brady, baby.
We're Tom guys.
We're BB.
I'm not talking Belichick.
Best QB ever.
I'm talking Brady, baby.
Best QB ever.
How many rings has Rodgers got?
How many rings has he got?
He's got one.
That's it.
That was like 20 years ago.
I don't know.
I mean, Aaron's good.
He's really good.
He's elite at throwing.
The two things that stand out in my mind are getting injured this year
and Jimmy G going in there and busting him a couple years ago.
As a Niner.
As a Niner.
You know what?
That makes me so happy.
I remember I used to hate back in the 90s.
Every year it seemed like Steve Young would bring us down to Green Bay
in a divisional round or championship game,
and they'd knock our heads right off.
Until that one time when Green Bay came to the candlestick
and T.O. was dropping a bunch of balls
and Steve hit him on the last play, split the cover too.
You remember that?
And then he was crying.
I was slightly before my time.
I got to look that up.
It's weird to think T.O. and Steve Young.
What?
It's just weird to me.
They played a lot.
I know, but it's just weird to me.
Actually, that was like his last year.
Steve started getting some concussies.
I always think Jeff Garcia.
All right, well, we can get off this question.
I love Jeff Garcia.
Underrated.
San Jose State Spartan.
Sarah from New York City, that is.
Is Zach Wilson going to make it?
What's he going to make?
His bed?
What's he making?
Making something with her mom, probably.
Jeez, Jack.
Sorry, sorry, sorry.
I saw the meme before this.
I saw the meme.
He does like MILFs.
He does.
It's a meme now.
It is a meme.
Zach Wilson, is he going to make it?
I don't think he's going to make it.
I don't know.
But I don't want to say anything because we all saw how the world reacted to Rodney Harrison calling him trash.
I wouldn't call him trash.
Make some throws.
Rodney's getting heat.
Heat.
Speaking of heat, Heat 2 is coming out.
You hear that?
Michael Mann, brother.
We love Michael Mann on this show.
I'm reading the book.
You read the book?
Nah, I'm reading books, Jack.
We'll wait for the movie.
Barely read the damn teleprompter.
Fuck out of here.
All right, let's get Alex from Tampa.
Want to know what Tom Brady smells like.
He smells like success.
And he always smells good. He smells like success. And he always smells good.
He really does.
I used to go and steal
some of his cologne when he'd leave.
I'd be last one there.
Go over to Tom's locker,
open that bad boy,
get a couple sprays,
feeling lucky,
feeling handsome.
He smells rich.
Look like money,
play like money,
smell like money.
Yeah, fucking Tom. he was a very big uh he was very big with uh the toiletries like all he always had like a little he had like
a little thing where he would bring his own little uh little kit to the showers and like
he'd always have two showers on him he would steal two showers he'd have one for his front
and one he'd be in the corner
and there'd be one in the front, one on his back.
And they're like, Brady, you got two showers?
That's how you know you're balling.
And you know, it wasn't just like some Sauvage.
This was like some unmarked, like special edition.
Yeah.
Guerrero was in the lab.
Somebody was in the lab.
Always.
Well, one thing about Brady also, he used to take shower pill.
Shower pill. Shower pill where you don't shower after work go home take the shower pill that's what everyone called it the shower pill
i don't know anything about that notorious wait explain this term i'm lost shower pill means you
don't shower after work oh you shower before meetings some guys take the shower pill i mean
you didn't shower that's surprising to me. You know, sometimes, you know, people want to shower.
He probably has a beautiful shower at home.
Yeah, I would probably wait for that, too.
You know, things probably got, like, purified water shooting on them.
Sometimes if we were losing our hot water, it'd be out.
So, you know.
Bill.
Yeah.
Bill out back, turning it off.
Those are some great questions from some bypassers.
Well, we got to thank Dola once again
and we got to thank Wynn
Las Vegas
Hotel and Casino for letting
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In California, during the summer of 1975, within the span of 17 days and less than 90 miles,
two women did something no other woman had done before,
try to assassinate the President of the United States.
One was the protege of Charles Manson.
26-year-old Lynette Fromm, nicknamed Squeaky.
The other, a middle-aged housewife working undercover for the FBI.
Identified by police as Sarah Jean Moore.
The story of one strange and violent summer, this season on the new podcast, Rip Current.
Hear episodes of Rip Current early and completely ad-free and receive exclusive bonus content by subscribing to iHeart True Crime Plus, only on Apple Podcasts. Hi, I'm David Eagleman from the podcast Inner Cosmos,
which recently hit the number one science podcast in America.
I'm a neuroscientist at Stanford, and I've spent my career exploring
the three-pound universe in our heads.
Join me weekly to explore the relationship
between your brain and your life,
because the more we know about what's running under the hood,
the better we can steer our lives.
Listen to Inner Cosmos with David Eagleman
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
How do you feel about biscuits?
Hi, I'm Akilah Hughes,
and I'm so excited about my new podcast, Rebel Spirit,
where I head back to my hometown in Kentucky
and try to convince my high school
to change their racist mascot, the Rebels,
into something everyone in the South loves,
the biscuits.
I was a lady rebel.
Like, what does that even mean?
It's right here in black and white in print.
It's bigger than a flag or mascot.
Listen to Rebel Spirit on the iHeartRadio app,
Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.