Ghostrunners - 17 - Getting Drugged by McDonald's

Episode Date: September 2, 2019

This episode was recorded during a road trip down to Dallas and covers a wide range of topics. To name a few: Christmas traditions, animals with STDs, Woodstock, and Jake's theory about the dinosaurs. What more do you need? Follow us on Instagram: http://bit.ly/33WAq4P Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Quiet on the set, huh? The Ghost Fetters podcast is about to begin. Three, two, one, action. Hello? Jake Triplett, is that you, boy? Why, I thought I killed you years ago. You may have killed my body, but you ain't ever gonna kill my spirit boy. Well, what do you think about this?

You idiot, you can't, I don't know. Hey, we're starting. It started. I don't know what that was. Oh. I was imagining myself as like this, it was like an old western and the guy had a beard and like really nasty teeth um and like probably was kind of bald you were a ghost because you said you can kill my body but not my spirit he was kind of see-through that was him that's what he

looked like but he was see-through okay see-through version somewhat translucent his name was like randy cool yeah i always think i was speaking to a randy yeah well here we are ghost runners podcast episode 17 i think which uh is the number in a lot of my old emails uh triple team 17 triple play 17 my zanga Triple Team 17, Triple Play 17. My Zynga username was TurdFerguson17. Wow. So yeah, special episode for me. That's awesome. Why is this a special episode for you, Brad? It's a special episode because we are doing it with a live studio audience.

For the first time, we joked about doing it with a live studio audience one time. This time, we are actually having two of our friends listen in while we record this. So I feel like a real life celebrity. We're in the back seat of Brad's truck right now, headed southbound on Highway 69 to Dallas, Texas. We got Isaac and Peter in the front, two good friends of ours. We've probably, we've definitely mentioned them before in the podcast. I'm trying to think like specific stories.

Oh. Where the listeners would know who these people are. We definitely talked about, Isaac was the one that told me about surfaces okay um what else did we see we've definitely mentioned peter before yeah peter we lived you lived next door to me with peter yeah um so maybe we talked about that somehow some way we'll uh we'll get them on the pod um yeah once uh they're in timeout right now. But once they have something to say and we grant them permission to speak, then you guys will get to hear their voice.

Perfect. Brad, how was your week? What's new? Oh, man. Week's been good. I always try to segment everything business-wise by month. And so obviously this is the end of August. Beginning of September by the time everyone's listening to this.

Okay. And so I was working hard to, uh, finish a, uh, desk for my friend, Jeff, which I think we talked about last time. Yo, Jeff desk, Jeff desk, desk. And, uh, so it's been a good week with that. Um, had some fun celebrating your birthday. Oh my gosh. I'm sure that's going to be a part of your week.

So I don't want to spoil too much but that's okay i've got to spend time with you as well as a lot of time with isaac and now we're going now we're going to a wedding together with peter uh so yeah it's been a good week um i i have not been as strict on my schedule of staying up i stayed up late a few times one time with you on tuesday um and then another night this week where I watched uh half of a documentary about the Woodstock festival before I fell asleep interesting um so yeah I haven't necessarily been proud of myself for that but at the same time that's okay we're doing all right so I don't know much about Woodstock probably mainly because of my age but like what did you learn that maybe you didn't know beforehand um half the doc that you watched i learned that it kind of started like i i feel like it had a

lot of similarities to the fire festival honestly really like a lot of parallels um and they kind of just luckily well not parallels in the fact that they actually booked like talent and everything and so they had bands coming and jaru wasn't there or not not officially okay there was some guy with a raspy voice uh how does jarro kind of sound oh let me think this is my guy billy i don't know this is my uh this is my guy billy no that's like more DMX Open here. No, that's bad, too. Anyway, um But yeah, it was like kind of started out like they wait if you ever that clip of DMX singing Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer Have you seen that video? Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer

Really? Yeah. No, actually he's like barking throughout the whole thing. It's a real it's pretty good sorry keep going though no it's great uh woodstock was like originally they were anticipating like at most like best case scenario we'll have like 150 000 people here we'll have enough infrastructure for all that they were literally building the set like the day before like just like fire festival and they're like we could either build the rest of the set or we could build a fence around the perimeter and they decided to build the, oh, I said the set, the stage. We either build the stage or this fence. And they decided to build the stage. And so many people came that they basically, like the creators basically said, this is going to be a free concert.

Whoever's bought tickets, sorry. But everyone, like there's so many people. But there's no fence. And so it ended up being like 400, 500,000 people-week fest or three-day festival and just was like madness but like how does that compare i don't know the numbers of like festivals and stuff like are that many people going to like weekend one of coachella are there half a million people going i don't know i don't know um because that seems like a lot oh it was crazy amount that seems like a lot. Oh, it was crazy amounts. That seems like way more than anything. It was in the middle of a field in like rural New York.

And so, yeah, it was just, how do you even, what is it like 1969 when this happened or something? I have no clue. I'm just not sure. It literally was,

I think 69. I think I'm bad. Like, I'm wondering how you even find out about Woodstock in the sixties, you know, like how, how do half a million people learn? Like let's, let's all go

to rural New York for the weekend the word of mouth you got nothing else to talk about no I think it was like a yeah it was you talk cigarette prices and live music they kind of hyped it up a little bit I think they did good job marketing they didn't talk about that a whole lot but like yeah people like literally would like quit their jobs with no notice and be like I'm driving to New York to go to this festival because it was just like a hippie culture thing. So they, that was just how they were anyway. But people talked about like, I've never, you know, until this festival, I didn't realize there were so many other people that were like me, you know, and like, I'm not the only one with a flower crown. Yeah, exactly. Uh, it was, that's beautiful. Yeah. Anyway, how did they market it?

You said, I'm not sure exactly what they did, but I just know that they did a good job of, I think just using the bands that were going to be there to like have them do the marketing. Yeah. Brad, we're both kind of half asleep when I was watching. I think most of this was a dream and I only watched half of it so far,

but that's okay for me questioning you quite a bit about half a documentary you watch. I think you did a pretty good job. I feel like, okay. speaking of questioning things lately catherine has been doing this thing oh sorry are we good um lately catherine has been doing this thing that my mom used to always do to me um which has changed my diapers no i'm just kidding uh she's been doing this thing that my mom used to do uh with me where like my mom would ask me a question about something and I'd be like, I don't know.

I don't know anything about this. And then my mom would ask like five more questions. And I'm like, let me tell you, I know this is the one thing I know. And it was specifically a situation I can think of was for your birthday party last night. We went to Dave and Buster's. Yeah, we did. And you texted me, Peter and Gunnar,

and you said, hey, let's do all these things with your wives. Great, awesome. And so it was only the guys that were in this group chat that we were like pretty, you know, flex and flow on time. Yeah. You know, everything. And Catherine kept asking me questions like,

now what time are we supposed to get there? Like, what are, who all is coming? I said, let me tell you everything I know. And that's it. And then she'll ask me more questions. And it's funny, like, maybe I'm just noticing it more, but I don't feel like she used to do that to me. So anyway. That's funny.

No, that happened to me literally yesterday as well. Someone was asking me, we found out that, so I like hardly ever remember my dreams and this person remembers all their dreams. And she thought that was so fascinating. And so she's like, so like, what was like, do you know why you're, you don't remember your dreams or whatever? I'm like, no, I don't know why. Okay. Well, like sometimes do you, you know, and it's like, I could not, it was like, I know you really want to talk about dreams right now, but like I straight up, I don't have dreams for me. Yeah. I have nothing else. I could tell you're fired up, but I just, I, I i i cannot contribute to this conversation are we gonna call are we gonna call bs a little bit on the fact that she can remember all her dreams

oh did i say all i doubt she remembers all of them but like pretty frequently she knows what she dreamed about and i'm like that is not my experience really i don't remember mine okay ever anyway i was gonna ask about about the Woodstock marketing. We're both marketing majors, kind of. Yeah. Yours is a little bit more legitimate than mine, but why did the GoPro stop recording? That's okay. What is your favorite marketing strategy in history?

Favorite marketing scheme, favorite company companies marketing that's ever happened? Hmm. Do you have one on top of your head? Yeah, I can probably talk about some. Let me think on it while you talk. Are you still going to listen to me or are you going to be thinking about your own answer? Honestly, I'll be 40, 60. Okay. Pick, pick which one is which. Uh, let's go 40. Listen to me 60. Think of your own answer. Okay, cool. I accept okay cool i accept um so uh this will be something i know i know about 40 about it so this will be perfect i don't feel super knowledgeable about this but the way that engagement rings have been marketed in the united states is one of the most genius things by these people who own these diamond mines because diamonds in and of themselves have no intrinsic

value they're not they're not rare uh they're not like hard to find they're not rare there's literally millions of them in these like caves in south africa and all over the world we we have so many diamonds let me just keep going okay but uh because right now right now i don't necessarily agree but maybe that's because I'm falling ploy to the marketing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I wish I knew more about this because it is kind of fascinating, but I think it was like in the forties and fifties they used, um, what's her name from?

I love Lucy. I think they got her to wear Lucille ball. Yes. They got her to wear like an engagement ring in one of the episodes and like kind of marketed it that way. They're like, Oh, this is a thing that happens. And then of course we have the catchphrase diamonds last forever. That was, uh, coined by the people who manufactured and like were distributing the diamonds themselves. So they coined that phrase like, Hey, don't you know, it's a thing diamonds

last forever. And so what they did was they looked it up and they saw how many couples in the united states get married every year and they only released that exact amount of diamonds into circulation and kept the rest of them in these like huge caves in these mines in south africa and so they created their own their own supply and demand their own economy within diamonds and basically marketed it to americans started with Americans that, hey, if you love your wife and you say that you're gonna love her forever, you should get her this token and this physical representation of something else

that also lasts forever. So I know I don't have a great shot at convincing my future wife someday that we should not get engagement rings because they truly have no value outside of just the fake supply and demand that we've been told. But that really is like how it all went down like they've really which props to them like it is very good marketing so maybe you wouldn't necessarily get a diamond you would want to

get something else besides a diamond quartz cubic zirconia the first uh mineral i could think of i had a friend uh kyle cook cookie, who was about to buy his girlfriend, or fiance, or it was his girlfriend. He was about to propose to her. He was about to buy her a cubic zirconia ring, which I don't know if you know anything about. That's what everyone knows is the fake ring. It's like, yeah, very fake, very cheap. You get your diamond tested to make sure it's not cubic zirconium. I mean, but you can, you can like, yeah, it's hard to tell though. Like, well, I don't know. A jeweler would would know but he was about to buy like this ring and we said like cookie whatever you do do not do that like even if you can afford a one you know a tiny tiny diamond whatever that

three years salary yeah they say three-year salary right um even if you get for the tiniest little diamond get a diamond ring over a season, something that everyone knows is fake. Right. And he, to this day, he's like, I just thank you guys so much for steering me in the right direction with that, because that could have been so bad. Sometimes I think I don't know much about relationships or dating, but then other times I hear stories like that. I'm like, well, I'm not that dumb. Like I know that I would know to do that. Wait, do you remember that one time? This would have been, I think like when we all kind of became friends,

I had this idea. I was gonna start selling my plasma and Peter's nodding his head. He knows where I'm going with this. I was gonna start selling my plasma because I did that before a little, you know, got a few jams after freshman year of college and you know, went down that path.

But I was gonna start doing that and never spend any of the money. Keep it all in this one account and use that money to someday buy my engagement ring with so that wait for it i could call it my blood diamond huh dude i kind of did that i like that i've heard that before we we pulled like all of our friends like lauren dodd lord gabriel them and they all thought it was they did not think the word play was clever they did not think it was a good idea not think it was the least bit romantic they for the most part said ooh, that's gross. Well, let me let me use some marketing and

Flip that on its head and make it romantic. Okay well, I brought us the diamond no just Instead of instead of saying I saved up this money. I didn't spend it at any other way. I call it blood diamond say I like up this money. I didn't spend it any other way. I call it a blood diamond. Say I like literally did everything I could to save up as much money as I could to buy you something as wonderful as possible for you. And, you know, was like trying to think of every way I could to make money for you. And so I went and did, I donated plasma. Um, I gave, I gave me to have you yeah like yeah i mean that that's how i that's like but then you don't have the word play which is like 80 why i want to do it the blood diamond is kind of the purpose because i think you pull that out later you know post

post uh emotional time like you don't want to be like this is my blood diamond Like you don't want to be like, this is my blood diamond. Like, you don't want to be on one knee and be like, Hey girl. I've been talking the accent too, as I was proposing as the guy did in the blood diamond, I think. But yeah, I'm not doing that. So if any future suitors out there, I'll probably just pay for it. It's not a deal breaker because it's not a deal. Did you have any thoughts about your favorite marketing boy in history? This is not my favorite. I'm sure. I'm sure I am thinking of other things or not thinking of other things. But just recently, and maybe it's just because it's Sprint and Sprint is kind of notoriously bad. I hate it.

And but it's also Kansas City. And so I want to like it. I want to love it. I want to support it. Let's go, Chiefs. But Sprint, I don't know, two years ago, had the guy from the verizon commercials that used to say can you hear me now good has him now is like the mascot and what did i forget what the i i'm not remembering very well but like basically he had that commercial that was like all networks are pretty much the same thing like within you know a few percentages of each other so So just go with Sprint because it's cheaper. I went with Sprint over Verizon because it's cheaper. And I felt like that was a really good,

honest way of Sprint being like, listen, we're not quite as good as everybody else, but we're way cheaper and we're not necessarily, like we're not so much worse than everybody else that it makes it worth it. And I just thought that was really worth it we'd rather have a medium amount of really good pizza or a lot of what's a lot of a lot of okay pizza or a medium amount of really good pizza a medium amount of really good pizza michael okay okay yeah i anyway

i thought it was a really good idea i think that sprint actually did really well through that ad campaign from what i hear um you guys have any thoughts sprint is so bad i don't really have a problem with sprint honestly i don't i just said he doesn't have a problem i don't really think i have a huge problem either except for on trips like this where we're in you know nowhere oklahoma nowhere kansas and i'm not expecting to have great service but maybe that's because i'm i don't know peter you have something else right yeah it was when i lived in the k-5 house there were two places we didn't get service one was our upstairs bedroom and the second was all along ward parkway yeah ward parkway is still bad i dropped calls on ward parkway all the time it's like that's right in our backyard don't you have have, you have something else now? I have Verizon. Yeah, I switched to the upper echelon of phone services. It's expensive.

The upper social class? Yeah, the upper social class. We moved up a class. Is it way more expensive? We pay, I pay $50 a month for unlimited right now. Whoa. And is it noticeably better? Yes, especially in Kansas City.

I didn't notice it so much when I lived in Branson, but Kansas City, an uptick in service for sure. When we were traveling around the country, every state last summer, I had Sprint, Kyle had Verizon, I think Ty had AT&T, and that was where I really noticed the disparity in Sprint service in other peoples because they always had service, were always having to use their hotspots, and I was where I really noticed the disparity in sprint service and other people's

because they always had service we're always having to use their hot spots and I was just so unreliable like once you go west of Kansas no west of Colorado you will not talk to anyone anymore really I mean kind of like Arizona uh Utah Wyoming Montana good luck and see that's the thing is like how for you you go everywhere for me it's like as long as it's good. And see, that's the thing is like how for you, you go everywhere. For me, it's like, as long as it's good where I live. Yeah. That's good for, you know, 51 weeks out of the year probably. Yeah. So anyway, um, speak it of, yeah, we'll stick on marketing just for one more topic. So I'm thinking of it. Uh, Popeye's have you had the sandwich yet? No, still no for me too. I, well, I told you I almost went,

but then Catherine's like, it has to be a special occasion. It didn't find that special occasion. And so then I, then I texted you on your birthday. Oh yeah. And said, Hey, let's go to Popeyes for Jake's birthday lunch. Special occasion. And you were busy. You were working as well, which is good for you. Thank you. But no, yeah, it didn't, didn't go, but now they've run out. We've, we missed our window. I didn't, didn't think that they would shut it down like that. Which some people think it's a good idea. They shut it down. I don't know if I really understand that completely, but I guess because the hype might be wearing

down. And so then if they shut it down and they don't come back, they're saying they're not coming back till October. That's true. And yeah, on that point, because I think I've talked about on the podcast, I'm a big believer in the Jerry Seinfeld mantra, leaving people wanting more. So maybe Popeye's like, we got to write where we want them. They want more of us. And also we totally underestimated demand and we're a pretty mismanaged company. So we're just going to pivot this and say, you know, wait until October.

Marketing, baby, marketing. Yeah, exactly. You can either call it the blood diamond or you can say, we're waiting until October. The blood baby, marketing. Yeah, exactly. You can either call it the blood diamond, or you can say, we're waiting until October. The blood chicken, or, yeah. You ever see Anchorman 2? No. Where Champ opens up his own, like, he calls it, I think it's a chicken restaurant, but he's like, this is really gamey or something.

I don't know, I haven't seen this movie in six years, probably. But then he's like, hey, you want to know the secret? They're bats. And he's like, what? He's like, oh, yeah, chickens are the cave. He's like, people don't call it that. He's like, hey, you want to know the secret? They're bats. And he's like, what? He's like, oh, yeah, chickens are the cave. He's like, people don't call it that. He's like, yeah, they do. Yeah, chickens are the cave.

And then I think at the very end of the movie, they're eating something else. It's like, now what is this? I don't know. It's like raccoons or something. It's like chickens at the rail yard or something. Or I think they're eating cats or something. I don't know. I probably butchered all those quotes.

But chicken. Yeah, armadillos are chickens of the road. Chickens of leprosy what they call that isn't armadillos like they all carry leprosy never heard that armadillos like i'm kind of like mildly freaked out by a lot of nature i think yeah like i think like katherine gives me a hard time a lot because i'm kind of scared of deer like if a deer if a deer were in my backyard I'm like I would I would just get a little nervous like Brad hey you want to come over we're all watching that Bambi you know I don't like horror movies yeah yeah come on I do not want to watch a scary movie comedy or rom-com only please no Bambi no deer I'm not scared of them on screen I think because of tommy boy probably like i was like

like deer are don't let them in your car i don't care what anyone says do not let them in the back seat of your car i don't know maybe that's why but like yeah if i were within 10 feet of a deer i'd be a little bit nervous yeah katherine loves horses one of them every time i get near a horse i'm just like don't i want to get kicked behind that thing yeah don't go around the back end of a horse no but deer i don't know if you should be afraid of deer. I saw a Twitter video the other day that a deer, like, smacked a person in the face. And I was like, that's why I'm afraid of deer. What did he smack him with?

The hoof. Or the hoof. The hoof? Just like, okay, hold on. The hoof. The deer is standing there in all fours. Yes. And then just reaches up with the right hook and just

swipes a man stands on two stands on the back two okay when he's one two two slaps yeah uh more like jabs okay to a human's face interesting yeah i don't know man do you know that armadillos sorry armad I don't know, man. So armadillos, sorry. Armadillos, don't know about the leprosy thing, but like if there was a freaking armadillo in my backyard, I'd be a little nervous about that too. Yeah. You?

I wouldn't like it. I mean, but also it's, I think it's because you don't know what animals are like capable of when they're scared. It's like, I know I'm at the top of the food chain. That's my point about deer. Like, I don't think a deer will kill me but even if one he might tag me a little bit you in the face yeah exactly bruising me up i'm not gonna hit that deer back oh i would would you i would love the opportunity to hit a

deer because it first attacked me even if it were a doe yeah you'd slap a doe? Yeah. Isn't there a rap song about that? How does that song go? Oh, these does ain't loyal? Yeah, that's what it is. Yeah. Oh, man. Did you know that every koala bear carries chlamydia? You're making these things up.

That's what they told me in Australia. You're making these things up. They're like, make sure you wash your hands because almost every koala bear has chlamydia. And watch out for that kangaroo over there. It's got syphilis. Is that a good Australian accent? That was like, yeah, like an immigrant, like born in Australia and then moved to like 1920s New York.

No, don't touch that. Don't touch that. I don't know. I don't know. That was better than your first go around. A boy, a boy, a boy, yeah. What was that last phrase? A boy, a boy, a boy, yeah.

I don't know what you're saying. I'm not saying anything. Oh, okay. Just don't touch the stingray saying i'm not saying anything oh okay just don't touch this thing right it's got it's got herpes yeah hey australia did you know that i'm just gonna keep saying things that i think are maybe true australia was founded as like a as like a population of people by it was where i think i don't know which country was in was in asia necessarily but that's where they would send their prisoners they had like discovered the island of australia yeah they called it

australia at first australia and then they're like no you're spelling it wrong it's australia oh it's okay we'll just go with australia yeah i think that's true like someone started it was uninhabited and they started sending their prisoners to Australia and that's how they eventually like populated it. It started as like a prison. Is that where Outback came from? Like, hey, where's Sammy? Oh, you didn't hear him? He's Outback.

Outback. He's Outback from the next 15 to 20. Yeah, like now what's the punishable crime for, you know, whatever, first remurder? Oh, it's a 20 to Outback. That's what they would say. Maybe, dude. I have not heard that but that's interesting because you say somebody from asia all these australians are white looking uh native australians slightly more of an asian influence than you would think they're really yeah yeah melbourne anyway i had a lot of them

i still can't get over the fact that it's pronounced melbourne yeah because there's an r in there it's melbourne to us absolutely melbourne to us yeah midwesterners yeah hey welcome to melbourne you wouldn't say jason ben welcome to melbourne jason ben put some sunscreen on so you don't get a sunburn please say that all the time you don't want to get sunburned hey you want to burn on your hamburger that one actually works take it that one they just say. They're really nice. Let's go watch The Bun Identity.

Nice. Yeah. You're with it today, Brad. I'm loving it. Loving it. It's because I'm in the backseat of my truck, man. Have you ever sat in the backseat of your own truck before? Never once.

It's kind of cool to sit in different seats of your own car. Yes. It's a small joy. Small joy. Little things. You know. The small joys. Anyway.

So a couple updates from what we talked about last week. We did not. It's a short week for us. You know, we're on the road right now. Yeah. So we did not have time to buy, much less learn a song in the recorder. But I think we can commit by next week. We will be performing okay recorder songs let's order them on Amazon during the car ride before we get there so that we can have them ready for us when we get back can we ship them

to Catherine's house maybe oh I was like it's my house too dude you're talking about Catherine's parents house that we're staying yeah yeah dude not cool quick you think you think her uh her mailman would pick them up for us um i maybe i don't think we maybe it's probably good that's a little bit of a risky move yeah i mean i trust amazon but sometimes they get there late um so i think i don't think we're gonna be playing them much the next week and for peter and isaac's sake maybe it's good that we don't have our quarters back for an eight car eight hour car ride back to kansas city honestly i can see isaac going getting down yeah on some recorders to the point where we're like okay stop isaac's not like one of the most addictive personalities of anybody i know

yeah like um how so like let's say he was into like this, like a certain type of coffee drink and, um, like really light espresso. Okay. So now we're just going to expose that. Yeah. Like, yeah. And like, he's not just going to dabble in this, in this, uh, hobby of his. Yeah. So let's say hypothetically, Isaac is like, I don't know, just graduated high school. Um, his income is for the most part inconsistent you know he's got his own business and it's you know it's it's thriving yeah he's doing well for any other village village woodworks village woodworks dot com um you can find it on Facebook and Instagram um but you know the guy hypothetically yeah has all these has this business that you can find on

Facebook and Instagram and he you know is let's say he's into espresso and he drinks it from time to time yeah what would you say his addictive personality would do from there um well maybe it would like you know research some stuff on Amazon and get like I don't know a 90 95 dollar espresso machine. Would that, would that be what I would, that's what I would, that's what I would do. It sounds crazy, but you would like, wow, that's $95 is a lot, but it's fun. I think it could be, you know, fun for a long time. And if you're really going to use this every morning, then that's going to pay for it. Yeah. That's going to take 20, 20 trips. Let's say you get

two lattes a week. That's two and a half months that you're, you're yeah. And then you're paid for. Great. But let's say, let me just, I mean, bear with me here, Brad, let's say you get two lattes a week that's two and a half months that you're yeah and then you're paid for great but let's say let me just i mean bear with me here brad let's say hypothetically isaac ended up spending more than 95 i don't know like 195 i'm thinking and i'm just i'm just spitballing here but let's say let's say isaac we'll call him isaac for the sake of the story let's say isaac mcdonald um who graduated from china mission east high school in 2018 let's say isaac mcdonald um who graduated from chinese high school in 2018 let's say he spent 600 on an espresso machine do you think that would be something in his character that he's capable of like with his addictive personality i think it sounds like something that he'd be willing to do um if he's if he's just sitting in bed one night just not really

thinking about it and maybe all of his friends are at dave and buster's he's if he's just sitting in bed one night just not really thinking about it and maybe all of his friends are at dave and buster's he's like hey i want to have some fun yeah hey they're they're spending 50 on one night of arcade i could spend 600 bucks on this that's true i don't like i was fun dip isaac let's what do you what are your thoughts on this hypothetical situation that hypothetical hypothetical wow okay taking the mic away sounds like something that i that i did last night when i was sitting in bed at 12 a.m wow i think i'll have a package waiting for me when i get home on monday from dallas do you have any i think they call this in business cognitive is it dissonance of like,

or buyer's remorse? Uh, perhaps like initially it's been like 12 hours since you've ordered it. Do you regret it and how much maybe we've all mentioned it in the car on this trip already, or you still feel strong in your decision? You know, I was feeling good last night when I bought it. I woke up this morning feeling okay. I got in the car with you guys. I may have told you guys about it. And the more we go about this weekend, I'm starting to regret it. I'm like, I think I should probably cancel the order or send it back. Cause Hey, there was free returns, but so you're feeling like we, I'm feeling like these three other guys in the car right now have been just slamming me this whole time. You feel like we're kind of roasting your beans? Got them. Or hey, you know what? You could just, you could

just, you know, keep it and just keep grinding. Boom, roasted. Oh, no, you didn't. Oh, keep up coming. These, these jokes are cough free. What was that one? Like supposed to be like free. Like, I don't know. That's okay. Your turn, your turn. Two out of three. Two out cough free. What was that one? Like supposed to be like free, like I don't know. That's okay. Your turn, your turn. Two out of three. Two out of free. Two out of free, bruv.

Hey, it wasn't bun yesterday, huh? That's all right, I've tried to think of one. I don't know enough about coffee to make another pun. Something about macchiato. Yeah, it's like barista pudding pudding pudding i had pudding today uh that's a quote from episode welcome to ghost warriors podcast episode 17 where we talk about jake's pudding well yes you did have pudding yeah i was quoting as most of you probably know pilot episode of the Office. Michael's trying to think of a pun and just says pudding. But yeah, I had pudding at Brahms a couple hours ago.

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gonna disagree on this but yeah I'm so with you I think people are like oh we gotta go to Brahms we're so like it's well it's clean it's you know good service I guess you can buy bananas yeah they have a supermarket there that's you know great I'm sure but whatever it's I'd rather go honestly this is probably a hot take to a lot of people. I'd rather go to McDonald's than Brahms. I think anyone from Oklahoma just stop listening to the podcast, but I'll die on this truth. I'm so with you. Yeah, I think people just have a bad taste in their mouth figuratively about McDonald's.

But I think it's really a lot better than you think. Give it a chance i will say i had a nice experience with sarah at brahms today and her friend who tried to tell me there was no ice i feel like they were low-key flirting with you guys isaac and i had it going on yeah you really did honestly i felt a little more confident because um well our first stop of the road trip at starbucks i feel like i came in hot with a joke that landed well, and I was like, I gotta follow this up. We were at Starbucks earlier today.

We're there, there's a car of girls also here with us. We're all kind of standing there. Brad is holding his daughter, Hattie. The Starbucks employee is clearly looking at Hattie and says, hey cutie. I instantly jump in and say, hey, and say, Oh, Oh, you were talking to her and, um, it landed well. And I just wanted to say, no, I wasn't. She jumped across the aisle, the counter and just gave you a big old smooch. Give you a big hoof hoof with your lips.

The one, two, the one, two, she got on her back legs yeah just poofed me on the lips oh thanks a latte oh speaking of well yeah yeah Tuesdays okay anyway oh yeah someday someday someday someday oh yeah but then at Brahms yeah I was trying to follow that up I forgot I oh yeah I know what joke I thought was gonna land better than it did um i was like where are we even at i said what city are we in she said prior and i said no not before this what city now did not land at all i mean do you think it's one of those things where it's like she just looked at me haven't heard that one before or something like that i think or you think it was so over her head as just like you know an, an uneducated small town, Oklahoma that works at Brahms.

I'm just kidding. I think I didn't speak loud enough. We'll chalk it up to that. Okay. I didn't deliver it. Okay. Cause I heard you say it. I smiled.

I love it when you smile. You smile, I smile. I really liked that song by Justin Bieber. Of course you do. Yeah. You like every Justin Bieber song. I do. You like every Justin Bieber song. I do. I, um, speaking of Justin Bieber song, this is kind of a weird thing to bring up, but

there's literally just what I thought of. So three different times in my life, it's very weird that this has like been a habitual thing or like just, yeah, something that's happened more than once. I've been in the car with a woman and a song has come on and then i'll find out either weeks or months later they will ask me hey did you put that song on for a reason this has happened three different times in my life where i'm never doing that so one was one less lonely girl i was like do you honestly this is like when i'm 24 years old like you really thought i would i put that song on to like send a message to you that like hey you're kind of lonely and I want to make you less of a lonely girl did you big time

yeah oh my gosh yes so that happened that was the second time it happened the first time was in college I'm sitting in the car with my ex-girlfriend at the time and the song by Bruno Mars came on the radio like when I was your man or where it's like that I should have bought you flowers I should have held your hand like the song had just come out and I'm like oh this song is good I turn it up and then later like a couple like you said that you even cute it up you're like oh hey listen to the words of the song it's really good that's the thing is I didn't necessarily turn it on like it just came on the radio and I was like

oh I love this song. Not thinking about it. And then she's like, did you do that on purpose? And I was like, oh my gosh, that looks so bad. I swear I did not. I just love that song. And then I can't remember the third time it happened, but yeah, just one of those things I'm like, wow,

how does this keep happening to me? Where I'm just not paying attention to like, or I'm just not really noticing the message I could be sending in the songs i'm choosing were were you sitting in this car with his ex-girlfriend potentially getting back together with her and do you think that like hurt your chances this was if i remember correctly we had been broken up for like months and it was like a clean break like hadn't spoken had not hung out right and this was like we both ended up at the same Super Bowl party, and she was driving all of us home.

We randomly ended up in the car at the end. It was like our first time hanging out or talking in like months. Okay. And so, yeah, not great timing, but, yeah. So for all the guys out there, be somewhat cognizant of the songs. I guess you're queuing up if you're, I don't know, with a woman one-on-one. Good.

Because they're picking up on it when maybe you just think they have a good voice because they're Justin Bieber or Bruno Mars. That's too good. We were just talking about, we've been listening to a lot of fun, random music so far on the trip. We've been driving for about four and a half,

five hours so far, maybe. But it hasn't stopped Peter from asking, are we in Texas yet? Several times. We stopped in Pittsburgh hasn't stopped Peter from asking, are we in Texas yet? Several times. We stopped in Pittsburgh, Kansas, and he said, are we in Texas? No, no, no. We were in southeast Kansas.

We got to Brahms. Oh, we're like really close, aren't we? We're like, no! It's a seven and a half, eight hour drive, man. We were giving Peter a hard time for that in Brahms, and then the girl, then I think Catherine's like, oh, Hattie's asked the same thing twice also oh yeah our two and a half dollar two and a half year old daughter has no concept of geography also thought that so in good company yes exactly oh my gosh but yeah

we've listened to a lot of fun music and one thing that we've really solidified um back and forth truly learned about each other yeah is that i don't listen to the words very often in songs. And if I try to, I don't even know if I can decipher the words. And it sounds like you on the other hand are like the exact opposite where you can't help but decipher and understand almost every word of a song, which I've been thinking about this. We established this maybe 90 minutes ago.

And I've been kind of thinking about it since then. And I think it's, I have such little, I've so much ignorance towards music and how it's composed and how it sounds. Like when people are like, there's a song I'm like, wait for the key change.

I'm like, Oh, I've listened to this song 20 times. Had no idea. There's a key change. Like I, I don't even really know what that means. So you're so much more capable of comprehending and understanding the

complexities of the music structure. And I am not. So really all I have is just the words. That's the only thing I can really know what's going on in a song. Yeah. And I, yeah, I don't know. Maybe I like intentionally try not to listen to the words because it's like, I don't know. It grants us bliss.

I don't want to know what he's talking about. This is a sweet beat and I want to enjoy this without feeling bad about enjoying it. Yeah. Or whatever. I don't want to know what he's talking about. This is a sweet beat and I want to enjoy this without feeling bad about enjoying it or whatever. I don't know, but that's probably one of the reasons I don't like country music that much. I like it fine, but only in certain settings. It's not,

well, no, but let me tell you, I only like in certain settings because I do understand the words and I understand the point very clearly. Like, like, well,

and it's like very explicit. They're talking about their pickup truck or they're talking about drinking whiskey or whatever it's like red barn i know exactly what this song is about yeah there's no interpretation to this a lot of time and so that's why i can only listen to it like on the beach in the summer or in the summertime because it's like this is great country music weather but in the winter time i'm like this doesn't make sense whereas other stuff it's like oh the music makes me feel but in the winter time i'm like this doesn't make sense whereas other stuff it's like oh the music makes me feel good in the winter yeah peter you're going straight the entire time all the way to sherman oh hello 49 miles oh fine we're fine yeah right i'm gonna put you on the spot here okay because i think you're gonna do fine

give me a hook for a country song oh boy i'm so bad at this okay i'll give you the lyrics and you think of the melody okay man okay the lyrics are gonna be don't say i'm good at this stuff because i'm not well you're good at like coming up with songs on the fly you do it once twice twice a week every time we do a podcast. Yeah, but it's always okay. Go ahead. Whatever. Thanks.

Thank you. Okay. Here are the lyrics. Brown dirt, brown shoes, golden hair. Hold on. And then I'm trying to think of a good lyric. Yeah. Brown, brown dirt, brown shoes, golden hair.

She votes Republican. And. So I don't care. She votes Republican, golden hair. I'm just going to emphasize that line. So brown dirt. Brown dirt, brown shoes, golden hair. She votes Republican, golden hair. Got the brown dirt, dirt brown shoes golden hair she votes republican golden hair got

the brown dirt brown boots golden hair votes republican golden hair that's beautiful yeah and we just wrote a hook for a country song that took 15 seconds like looking up from his paper like now right say that one more time okay now can i i know i haven't really put out music in 15 to 20 years but can i hop on the biggest song in the last five and make a name for myself again last five last 20 yeah it's a big song it's huge um yeah i was gonna say something about uh music or something i don't know you know should we move into our questions is that yeah let's do it brad and i uh just individually jotted down a few questions to ask each other just to kind of get some conversation flowing uh brad would you

like to start what is your first question uh okay um the first one is somehow they kind of got um based around different uh christmas themes i don't know why the first one is do you have any christmas traditions isaac is raising his hand yes christmas tradition for the mcdonald family um most people open their christmas presents on christmas day the morning of the mcdonald family however we open our christmas christmas presents after the christmas eve service on on Christmas Eve that night. So you open no presents on Christmas Day? We have our stockings that we get. Whoa, just the stocks? Not much, but... Okay, that's kind of a cool tradition.

It's kind of, yeah, fun. Catherine's family does that as well. They open on the Eve? Yeah. What about you, Brad? I think I've mentioned this once on the podcast already, but whenever we're in kansas city now we we alternate every year kansas city and texas because we're married that's what you

have to do um but whenever we're in kansas city we as an extended family always go play either laser tag or bowling that's so awesome uh so that's a fun we we're a big traditions family so i have a lot um we also like watching home videos on Christmas Eve after the Christmas Eve service We like driving around look at Christmas lights on Christmas Eve. We Always buy my mom whoppers for her stocking. Okay, like a box of what my dad usually does so not from Burger King This is the candy, correct? Yeah, yeah, we just put a little crumple in there you can just fit about five or six whoppers from burking in her stocking depending on you know the year right uh junior whoppers yeah yeah if you're just if you're

needing to stuff a few more yeah yeah um yeah yeah can you give me a whopper no onion it's for georgia and stocking that sounds like your full name right my name name is george and stocking yeah um what other ones we have lots i'm blanking on a few but yeah those are some of them that's cool we don't have anything too crazy i mean i think every family does things on a consistent basis probably like we use the same stockings since i was little um there's always going to be ghirardelli caramel chocolates in my stocking from my mom fancy slash Santa used to be Santa and then one year just switched um do you remember how your parents told you that Santa wasn't real uh I don't remember being told you probably were

smart enough where you were like you formed a hypothesis and knew it yourself you talked to your gifted teacher and you're like it just doesn't make sense there. There's no way to go around all those places at one night. Honestly, yeah, it's kind of a joke, but it is kind of serious. I mean, like, yeah, at a very young age, I was very logical in my thinking. And I was just like, this just doesn't add up. Like, there's just no way this could be how it is. And so, but I also had a younger sister, so I never really had that conversation with anyone. I just kind of figured it out between, you know, between seasons.

And it's like, all right, I know going into this year i have more but also maybe i'm remembering wrong my parents might be like no we i know moron we told you that's what i'm trying to think like what is my mom going to you know oh you're talking about christmas santa sorry i'm talking about santa i was thinking about more tradition sorry okay yeah i just think my mom's going to get on to me if i don't say some of these my mom mom's a huge listener of the pod. Uh, my dad also reads night before Christmas every year. Nice. Like through college, we read it and I would just sit there and listen to him read this, uh, for Christmas brunch slash breakfast lunch. That's what brunch is. Uh, we have cinnamon rolls, frozen fruit cups, and some kind of casserole and orange juice every single year nice traditions

i think those are it mom all right glad we threw those in there christmas cookies okay lots of stuff anyway nice okay uh my question for you brad peter did you have any sorry uh no you're good um we had a lot growing up my mom was big on traditions uh notable one we watched the christmas carol every christmas eve nice seen it 29 times now which some might say is 28 times too many what would you say i would say they would be correct in that assumption. We'd go look at Christmas lights. My mom, big on stockings. She would wrap every stocking stuffer individually. And we'd go around one at a time, open them up. Wrapped presents in the stocking?

It was crazy. It was like little stockings. That's a lot of work. And then one year, when I was like 10 years old, we entered a contest at Meek's Lyard and won a giant meeks throwing down on it was a giant well we won a picnic table um and also a giant six foot stocking that was filled with toys and so that christmas was like extra special and i got to open that on christmas eve as well that year so big stocking family. That's awesome.

Six foot stocking. That's great. Worth the price of admission for Peter being here right there. Um, all right, Brad, my question is, uh, what is the worst idea you've had this month? Oh boy. Isaac's got one. I wonder what this is gonna be. That spending $600 on an espresso machine was probably not the best idea. All right, you got Isaac locked down for an answer. I didn't even have you in mind when I wrote that. But thank you.

What was the worst idea I had this month? Yeah. I don't know. Well, last week I went to – we had our fantasy football weekend, and I went to the casino with my friends, and I made a good amount – I'm not going to use numbers, but I made a pretty good amount of money. Don't use numbers. Let's use Roman numerals. Let's say I made one – let's say I made about one- amount of money. Don't use numbers. Let's use Roman numerals. Let's say I made one.

Let's say I've made about one third of an espresso machine. And my friends and I had so much fun. It was such a blast that we decided to go back the next day. And let's just say I made decisions there that I regret. And now I do not have enough money for any kind of espresso machine. I'm actually, I'm actually having to, you know, go on a caffeine diet because I can't afford anything like that. So instead of winning $200, I made a bet. I had a bad idea with my friends because we're like, that was so fun.

We're invincible. We can win more money. Let's go back. Yeah. That's how they get you. Yep. That's exactly how they get you. So I don't know.

I guess that's how they get you yep that's exactly how they get you so i don't know i guess that's an idea also my idea for a fantasy football team that consists of almost completely chiefs is probably not a good idea week 10 might be a little rough for you so that was a bad idea but i'm very excited about it right now yeah why not that's great yeah i don't even know if i have an answer we can just go to the next question peter do you have anything peter any bad ideas this month probably a lot but racking my brain can't think of any like specific ideas um none are coming to mind right now that's okay i don't i can't really think of anything either all right my next question is also christmas related potentially um giving a gift card as a gift, is that a great idea or a great, great present or a lazy present? Initial thought is lazy. Okay. Because as, you know, through, through life, there might be some

years where you have more money or have less money you know more to go around but you can always have like thought and care and creativity like those are things that don't necessarily like i don't know come and go as much as like your financial stability might so i think that uh yeah i think it's lazy to get someone you really care about a gift card but if it's like like if my uncle i don't talk to that much or whatever gets me a gift card i'm not like oh he's so lazy i'm like this makes sense i get it you don't even know what i was kind of surprised to even get a gift so this is fine would you say yeah okay would you say receiving would you say the same thing receiving a gift card is lazy or great or is it always great?

Like, do you feel like if you were to have either a $30 movie gift card or a gift that probably cost somebody $5, but it's very thoughtful and like creative and funny, maybe which one would you rather? Like, would you still see that gift card as great or lazy i would probably prefer the five dollar creative gift because it's going to strengthen my friendship with whoever it is that gave me that yeah and you can be like hey remember that time you got me this or hey look at this look at me using this or i put it up in my office or whatever yeah um but for the most part i got i was given two chick-fil-a gift cards this week, and I loved getting that because that is not, like, if anything, that's, it's counterintuitive to what I just said. Like, they know me so well that they know that this actually is a really good gift for me. I'm going to spend that money without having to go out of my way at all.

And I loved receiving both of those. Yeah. That's the thing is that. Thank you, Gunnar. Yeah. Gunnar, thanks. you gunner yeah gunner thanks uh that's the thing is i don't think that i i think i'm gonna go with great because i don't think i've ever not used a gift card in one way or another um but there have been some like personalized oven mitts that you didn't end up using that much right like that

one time yeah aunt k crocheted me that potholder. I was like, Kay, I'm 14. Yeah. I don't need this. Yeah, so I think it's great. It is like a little bit less exciting whenever your birthday comes and you have a stack of envelopes rather than a stack of like presents, you know, in general. Like you're like, oh, man, it'd be way more fun to get a scarf that's in this big box then where it's like, okay, this is clearly money

or gift card. But it's also fun to be like, to like actually put that money aside and be like, that is my birthday money that I'm going to spend on something that I don't need. Um, that's, you know, a multiple of a hundred dollars, maybe $600, uh, you know, that can really energize me, uh, every single day in a compact form of coffee, like a non-necessity, the kind of a splurge, like you do not need that. Like, yeah, that'd be cool. Exactly. Oh man. Uh, my next question, Brad for you. Yeah. And maybe we just ended with two. We're almost at an hour. Great. So we can save them for next time.

Uh, actually I, I like my next question. Oh, let's keep going then. I mean, we got time. We're going to run out of gas soon,

but we got plenty of time before we reached Dallas. 27 miles, baby. Oh, that's plenty. Okay. Brad, if you had to give a Ted talk,

what would it be on? Like if you had to give this like tomorrow, like something you feel pretty knowledgeable about and can really stir up a crowd with what would it be oh man not not trying to be like too humble but i feel like i'm not that like savvy in anything that like i feel like i know a decent i guess i don't know um doing could you relate like two things you know a lot about together like what home alone taught me about woodworking yeah there you go something like that um i don't know man sure yeah what what home alone uh i don't know, man. Sure. Yeah. What, what home alone? Uh, I don't know. I don't know. I'm being lame. Sorry. This is a hard question. You have hard questions. Mine are like gift cards, easier,

good or bad. Yours are like, I think this is like fun conversation though. I know you just make me think so much on my feet about it. And I don't know. Um, I liked the idea of like giving a Ted talk about starting a business, I think, but, but I'm not like, you know, the biggest business person in the world, but I feel like I started a business that I was passionate about what I was making. And I love sales and I love people. I love what I was doing and I was love what I was making and just grinded it out until it started working and figure out what worked. So I liked, I like talking to people about that stuff. Give me a Ted talk. Just, I feel like that is like such an expert level. So I know that like, you're just saying like in general, like what could you talk about with people and

enjoy talking about? So maybe that's it. It's just like the idea of how to build a business without spending a lot of money on it, without, you know, spending money on advertising, without having, you know, a bunch of experience and expertise and stuff, but just heard talks or messages or even quotes from entrepreneurs and it almost feels like even though it might be inspiring sometimes they're like oh i can't really relate to you like yeah you know you are you think differently than me you right you know you dress the same way every day because you want to minimize your decision making or you sound like a psychopath like i can't even really relate to that because you're on such a different plane of you know know, life. So it would be interesting. And I think what would really resonate with it, you know, your everyday audience would be like, Hey, I'm an everyday man's man, like you all out there. And I started a business. I'm like, here's like a practical look at entrepreneurship rather than

like, you know, I failed seven times and I've have two ex-wives, but I do have a thriving business now, baby. And that's all I care about, you know, by my webinar and everything. Now that you're talking about it more, that makes me kind of think about like what I would do. And yeah, exactly what you're saying. Like, and maybe it's the broader picture, but like the lesson I've learned through it, and this is kind of silly cliche sounding, but like you can do anything if you really, truly want to do it. No, but like, here's this thing I've been thinking with me, but like you can do anything if you really truly you want to do it no but like here's this thing i've been thinking no but like with me but like growing up follow your dreams even in college and stuff like i would tell people like like my friend would do something he's a mechanical engineering

major and he would do something and i'd be like oh like that's really cool you can do that man i'm just i just don't think that's different yeah i. Yeah, I just don't have an engineer's mind. And yeah, now it's like, no, I learned, like I used to be like, oh, woodworking, that's so cool you can do that, man. Like, I just don't have that kind of like skill set or I just don't understand that stuff. I just don't have that kind of mind. And really, it's like, I think, I mean, there's certain things that, yeah, you have more natural ability to do. But for the most part, if you really truly want to figure out something and how to do it you can grind it out and figure it out i think that's you can grind you can roast you can you know you can pour it over yeah you can pour over you just pour over a day and night um keep them coming isaac no no free lattes for either

we'll see about that no i think that's a great, what you ended with is a really strong, like, theme and premise for a TED Talk, I think, that, like, you really can do, yeah, whatever you think. Is the gas can on this side? Oh, it's on your left side.

Here's a fun fact. Look at the tank, and they're on every, this is for everyone out there. Oh, is it the little arrow? Yeah, there's, on every car, at least that's made in America,

you can look at the actual gas tank icon by your fuel gauge and there will be an arrow either pointing left or pointing right and that's how you'll know which side the uh tank is on my uh i've like you know given keynote talks but i don't know if they're super ted talky it's more like targeted towards high school students and trying to motivate them and inspire them through my own life stories. I might give a TED Talk on dinosaurs. I have kind of a...

What? Getting a lot of big bursts of laughter by Isaac in the front. All right, no lattes for me. You, get out. You don't get to hear my theory on the dinosaurs. You have to leave. Close your ears. This is just a theory on the dinosaurs you have to leave close your ears um here's this is just a theory on the dinosaurs need a zip code need a 66216 also test me on this um podcast listeners

but i think you can put any zip code in you want and it will work oh no i just did it wrong the other day and it didn't work yeah here comes h comes Hattie. How was your car ride? Good. Good? Should we talk in the microphone and say something? What do you want to say? I don't know. Um, what have you been doing in the car?

I don't know. Have you been listening to some music? Yeah. Let's sing. Ready? A, B, C, D, E, F, G, H, I, J, K, L, M, N, O, P, Q, R, S, W, X, now I know my, next time won't you, do me. Hey. Hey. Hey, Mom. Hey Hi! Say, I'm partying with the boys!

It's all done. Should we get a sound bite of her saying something? Sure. What should she say? Hey! Hi! Say... Are y'all still in?

Kind of. It's pretty loose. Oh, is it? Uh... I'm gonna get out! Okay, before you get out, before you get out, say... Thanks for listening! Thanks for listening. Thanks for listening. Please like and subscribe.

Please rate us five. Rate us five stars on podcasts. Rate us five stars on podcasts. See you soon. She does not want that microphone in her face. Great cameo from Hattie Louise. Real quick, I'm'm just gonna explain this dinosaur thing to you um this is this is a theory on the dinosaurs doesn't really matter much in the

grand scheme of life but it's fun to think about okay two schools of thought bradley one we have the scientific proof that uh reptiles uh never stop growing and that's why a lot of them have to shed their skin because they grow out of their former skin okay we have that on the left side on the right side layer of water vapor between this is maybe too much to explain this is i mean i'm trying to go quick it's that's why i'm like ted talks are supposed to be 10 minutes or less so the book i read about Ted talks said 18 minute segments. Oh really? Yeah.

Something with like the human. I honestly haven't watched a Ted talk in a very long time. And this was just one guy's stance who, um, okay. Forget what I was saying. Here's just, let me just skip to the last scene. Basically we think that these dinosaurs went extinct, but the theory is that what if they were the dinosaurs that we see in museums? We think that these dinosaurs went extinct, but the theory is that what if they were... The dinosaurs that we see in museums,

what if those are just alligators and iguanas that were living in extremely good conditions? And because reptiles never stop growing, what if they kept growing 10 times the lifespan? That's a fun theory. I like that. The very first dinosaur ever found was named the Iguanodon because its bones so closely resembled the iguana. Really? Yeah, that's a fact.

I don't think you need to do any more research into this. I think you should just start telling people. Okay. You know there's just huge lizards, right? Like, yeah, honestly. Like, who's to say, like, a T-Rex isn't an alligator? I bet a lot of people would say that. Because humans were living 10 times their lifespan. So what if an alligator was living 10 times their lifespan so what if an alligator

was living 10 times its lifespan those arms they call them alligator arms but you know on the alligators right like it's like a phrase like oh you have alligator arms like you have short arms but t-rex is also known for having tiny arms short arms holy cow yeah you convinced me real quick all right baby that's crazy let's end it you had one more question you're excited about we'll end it with that yeah i just would be interested to hear your answer to this um okay so let's say you have one hour there's a hypothetical you have one hour to listen to any musical artists unrecorded uh music like music that they haven't released to the public yet, either past or

present, but just like, yeah. What would you choose? What would you listen to? Whose music are you listening to? A musical artist on release. Like we just discovered this. Yeah. Or it could be, yeah. Justin Bieber has all this music that he's written, but he hasn't let it out in the public yet. That would be exciting. Can I just workshop this music with you? He contacts me directly i want your opinion i know i heard you on the podcast say you know nothing about musical composition or structure and i just want to know what you think about this but these words are amazing so listen to them um let's see i'm trying to think who i really really like respect as a musician would really like to

hear their own like i think it almost has more of like a wow factor if they're dead i think yeah like if johnny cash had like an hour of unreleased stuff i might get pretty hyped about that yeah you like rediscover or oh maybe elvis though too that would be kind of cool if only you knew about an hour's worth of elvis's Can I pluralize more of that sentence? Hours worth of Elvis's songs. Sure, I'll go with that. I'll say Elvis Presley's songs. My initial reaction is the Beatles

because big Beatles guy. But since you went dead, I'm going to go alive, which I know Paul McCartney is alive, but I'm going to go Ed Sheeran. Wait, which surprises me. I know. You're way more into Ed Sheeran. Wait, which surprises me. I know. Because I... You're way more into Ed Sheeran than I am.

Yeah, I like him. And you said, eh, I don't really... But I think that maybe his unrecorded or unproduced, unreleased stuff would probably be a little more raw, a little more acoustic. This answer makes no sense to me. You were just telling me like two weeks ago how you're like, I can't, I've never listened to Ed Sheeran's stuff.

I don't really like it that much. No, I didn't say I've never listened to it. I just don't know it like most people i i you're right i am like a c plus fan of ed sheeran yeah um but whenever he first came out with the a team that was his first big one but what's this like what's this song i don't know perfect that was like the classic wedding song no no no that stuff is just okay to me oh i don't know what you're going for i know it was like his big first song it was the a team that was the first one okay what was the second one uh it was like more of a hip-hoppy um shape of you that one's

more recent no no no no no no love that sharon i don't know what it was it was like more of a it was a it was a banger okay anyway that song i don't know yeah so i. It was like more of a, it was a, it was a banger. Okay. Anyway, that song. I don't know. Yeah. So I liked Ed Sheeran back in the day. I was a pretty early adopter to him.

And then he got, what is it? Was it thinking out loud? No. Ooh. It was one word. Perfect. No,

it was a, banger means something fun. Isaac, can you find it? I mean, here we think it. What are his like top songs on on spotify oh he just came on the new album so that's not going to be helpful you should really listen to his new album though oh yeah photograph's a big one does it is it a bumper though no i'm talking about it's like a is it a bumper it's one one word i think i think i already said this to you and this is why we had this

ed sheeran discussion like two weeks ago but you should really listen to his new album it crosses so many genres he has a song with chris stapleton and bernard mars that sounds like acdc and it's awesome it's like an 80s rock song he has a song with uh like ty dolla sign i think and like um travis scott i don't really like them so much as rappers but still he's making music with them which i think is interesting. He has a song with Justin Bieber. Obviously that was like the big single that came out. Yeah, maybe I should take back my answer because none of that sounds that intriguing to me.

I'm trying to like pitch you on it. Like, oh, this is actually making me less interested. Okay, so I watched the movie yesterday. I really liked him in yesterday when he sang some songs by himself. And literally one of the prompts for this movie was, hey, go write a song in 10 minutes come back and sing it he's so talented yes uh the my mama don't like you song he wrote that for justice beaver back in the day he's written so many hit songs for people he's a genius he's like the kanye of white people

that's what everyone's saying mainly you don't it't. It's called Don't. I like Don't. The song Don't. Don't. Interesting. Yeah, it's a good song. Yeah. Thanks. This podcast is fizzling, I feel like.

No, I'm... Well, maybe it is. I am now just like fired up on Ed. I know. I'm like, I want his hours worth of stuff because you're not even going to it as much as i will okay you're right because yeah fine then i'll go beetles okay because beetles beetles is my favorite you go beetles i'll go to cheer and no one will listen to johnny cash's or who did i even say elvis geez okay you guys can take it over together tell me the story isaac i would like for you to tell everyone the time you went through the mcdonald's drive-through and some stuff went down here i'll give you the mic do you want us to prompt you at all like you want to ask you any questions yeah you uh yeah yeah

brad go ahead and start asking some questions so how old were you when you were when you were so i was 16 years old and so you went to to McDonald's. Went to McDonald's. It's about 10 p.m. on a Saturday night, I think. And went to order. It was going to be a late night, so I wanted a coffee. Espresso? Yeah, not going to have to do that anymore. Not going to have to go to McDonald's that late to get a latte.

So I got a nice vanilla latte. Very on brand a latte. So I got a nice vanilla latte. Very on brand for you. Okay. Got a nice vanilla latte. Yeah, that was the only thing I got. We sat down in the McDonald's. We were chilling. My latte gets brought out to me by a lady, turns her head away, hands it to me, doesn't say a word.

So she turned it away. She like didn't look at me, didn't make eye contact and handed me the drink. Okay. doesn't say a word so she turned it away she like didn't look at me didn't make eye contact and handed me the drink okay didn't say anything i thought that was a little bit weird but you know it's mcdonald's um and my first my first initial thought is this drink does not look like an iced vanilla latte like it looks like dirty water almost okay like that like a tinted darker water it was weird um gave it a shot it didn't it tasted extra sweet did not taste like a vanilla latte at all um you know had about maybe half of it gave a few sips to my friend Matthew and then I threw it away in the trash can okay um so we're still sitting at McDonald's my friends are finishing up eating

and then all of a sudden like I just start feeling like weird I look at my friends I'm like dude I feel like like I'm on something And then like a minute later I stood up and I was freaking out and I was like, we got to get out of here. We, we got to go. I, I got, I got laced. Like, I mean, when I say I was tripping, I was tripping. I didn't know what was going on, but I was like freaking out. So my friends and I, we got in the friends and i we got in the car like wait okay describe a little more about how you were feeling like because full disclosure i've never tried any drugs so i don't know i you know i'm not like you so i i've never tried anything yeah i don't know what it feels like like were you tingling like was it did you feel light was was thing were things were you sensitive to light

i don't know like what does it feel like um well one thing was like i was having like palpitations like my heart was like pounding out of my chest and like i don't really know how to describe this but like i don't know my vision was slow like it was tracing like i'd be looking straight ahead no i'd be looking straight ahead and then I'd look to the right or whatever. But, like, I would still be looking straight ahead, and then, like, seconds later, my vision would, like, catch up with the way my head. Yeah, yeah. Oh, okay. If that makes sense.

Like, it was tracing where my head was going. It was a little bit behind. Okay. That, and then I was just, like, I was a little bit like laughing, like giggly. Um, after a while at first I was just like freaking out. Like, I don't know what was going on and then figured out I got laced. Okay. So, so you, yeah, your reaction was let's get out of here. Let's get out of here. Yeah. So my, we all get in the car, we get back home, walk inside. And I tell my parents right away, I'm like, I think I just got laced with some sort of drug at McDonald's. Don't know really what's going on, but I am not in the right state

of mind right now. So immediately Kathy, my mother starts freaking out. She's like, what is going on? But then my dad decides that we should go back to this McDonald's and try to recover the iced coffee that I threw away in the trash can because it was still about half full. So we get back in the car and at this point I'm still feeling just like totally off like kind of just out of it it's kind of hard to describe how i was feeling yeah um but yeah it was weird we go back to the mcdonald's we we find the iced coffee however it's since i threw it away it's all spilled out there's like really no iced coffee left in it just some melted melted ice. So then we're like, okay, well maybe like they're doing this to a lot of the coffees they're making tonight.

We decided to go through the drive-thru and order another one. We get up to the screen where you order, right? And we say, can we get a large iced vanilla latte, blah, blah, blah. They go, yeah, that's great. Your total is, well, they weren't that nice when they said it, but your total is blah, blah, blah. They go, yeah, that's great. Your total is, well, they weren't that nice when they said it, but your total is blah, blah, blah. Meet you at the window,

go to the window. They see who we are and they're like, oh, we're actually not selling ice vanilla lattes anymore tonight. So like, you know, once they saw you, they denied you. Yeah. At first they sold us the ice vanilla latte. Like when we ordered it, they say, okay, we'll have it at the window. We get to the window, we're about to pay for it, and they go, actually, we don't have any more coffee tonight. So, a little bit strange. Anyway, making this a real long story. The next day, we end up going to the hospital to get me drug tested and all this stuff.

They say they're sending my blood off to some lab to get it tested. And, like, KC Police Department is getting involved. say they're sending my blood off to some lab to get it tested and like kc police department is getting involved needless to say we never found out what exactly happened that night because lab results never came out but that was about two years ago so never they never came back at all they never even tested my blood they pretty much they have bigger and better things to worry about in kcmo rather than some high school kid getting drugged at a mcdonald's dang dude that's still one of the crazier stories that like like whenever i heard that i was like isaac is going to be so rich for a hot second i was like i'm out of these people. I can get so much money off this, but. Think of the espresso machines. Oh, man.

I could have. You could have an espresso bar. Yeah, that's crazy, man. Well, thanks for sharing that story. Thank you for being so vulnerable. Isaac got freaking poisoned by McDonald's. Yeah. When do you ever hear of that happening?

I can't believe I spoke so highly of McDonald's right after that. It doesn't look good for your Brahms comment earlier. Man, think about how bad Brahms is if I'm putting McDonald's in front of it. That goes to show you. No, yeah, I always thought that was so crazy. I was living in Dallas when that happened, and I remember just hearing about it. Like, oh, yeah, did you hear Isaac got poisoned? I heard about it the next day at church.

Isaac got drugged at McDonald's. You didn't hear about Isaac? I was like, what? Yeah, he's a drug addict now. Yeah, he blamed it on this vanilla latte but i don't know i i found out lsd in uh his wallet is that where you keep lsd also not a druggie like isaac so i don't know uh yeah um all right well that's in this sucker uh we got a review this week so that is our review of the week the one and only from ben i've been following j for a year and a half, but Brad only for a little bit

But let's say this podcast since day one though. I wish I could give it a million stars if I could Thank you Ben Wow That's awesome. It is awesome. That's amazing Episode 17. Thank you guys for listening. We'll be back next Monday probably recapping the ins and outs of the dance moves that will be had this Sunday night at the reception of the wedding we're going to. So look forward to that. And Brad, end us with a little jingle, baby. Brown dirt, brown boots, golden hair. She can take me anywhere because she's my girl and i love her that's why we have

gold hair ghost runners podcast signing out i also just remembered that i forgot to i said stop i have these fire indies and it just while you're singing around to me i was like oh i said tune in next week to find out why jake does not like the enneagram and completely forgot until just now so tune in next week actually to maybe find out you're not gonna believe his answer all right bye