Ghostrunners - 284 - Breastfeeding at the Trampoline Park w/ Jefferson Bethke & Walk in Love
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All right, we got a special episode for you guys today.
We're coming to you from Hawaii.
We also have a couple of special guests, TJ, Jeff.
We'll introduce them later.
But first off, Jeff, we need to tell you a story
because they all kind of heard this last night.
But I roll up to TJ's house in the rental car Jeep 2023.
What kind is it?
Wrangler.
Wrangler.
How do you know?
I saw the ticket you got on Instagram.
And I can tell from the steering wheel.
I used to drive one.
So I like Wranglers.
Yeah, so I pull up and I'm tell from the steering wheel. I used to drive one. I like Wranglers. Yeah, so I pull up
and I'm parking on the street
and I'm aware that maybe
I'm a little in the way
of the driveway behind me.
And so I go to check
and make sure I'm not blocking
the driveway behind me.
And while I'm doing that,
there's a scary, scary woman.
I compare her to,
you know in Home Alone,
the scary neighbor?
Old Man Marley?
Old Man Marley.
Or the pigeon lady? Yeah, it's like that if they had no redeeming qualities. 100%. Yeah, TJ, you know, in Home Alone, the scary neighbor. Old Man Marley? Or the pigeon lady? Yeah, it's
like that if they had no redeeming qualities.
Yeah, just...
She's like them, but if they had no redeeming qualities.
Just scary. Just bad. She's frightening.
Yeah, TJ, this is your neighbor.
So, she's just staying there.
Her arms crossed, kind of terrifying me. I wasn't
expecting to see someone. And I was like, oh my gosh,
am I blocking your
driveway? Is it okay to park here? She goes, I don't care where you park. I was like, oh my gosh, am I blocking your driveway? Is it okay to park here? She goes,
I don't care where you park.
I was like, alright.
Mahalo, thank you.
Right here, shock them.
I was just kind of like, alright, that was so
weird. Alright, just making sure.
Rachel and I walk in. As we're walking in,
she makes a noise I've never heard a woman make.
She's like...
The neighbor, not Rachel.
Sorry, no, Rachel.
The distinction wasn't clear.
The neighbor just hawks up a wild Hawaiian loogie.
Just something to add to the character.
She does that.
And so we're like, wow, that was interesting.
Whatever, we go inside.
We're hanging out for like 30 minutes.
Then our friend Ian comes in.
And he comes in.
Thanks for the invite to this party, apparently.
Yeah, Ian.
Not on the podcast. Not on the picture. No, I'm talking about Ian. I'm talking about me not being in to this party. Yeah. And not on the bike.
Not a picture.
No,
I'm talking about me.
Sorry.
Sorry.
Next,
next time.
Okay.
Yeah,
dude,
everybody was there.
I feel it.
June was there.
Sonny was there.
Daisy.
Cheese.
But Ian comes in,
I would say looking a little shell shocked.
We could tell something's up.
And he was like, uh,
your neighbor is not happy with whoever drove a Jeep. And I was like, Oh my God, I tried to address this. I can't believe this is happening. And he goes, yeah,
she was worried. She's like, she thinks you're blocking her driveway.
She wants someone to move it,
but she was worried about asking a disabled person to move it.
No, that's not true.
100%.
They thought he was disabled.
I don't know what I did.
To which Rachel said, I did get out of the car weird.
Rachel immediately was like, oh, it's my fault.
I will say that this neighbor
two times a week plays
heavy, heavy grunge rock.
Is it the band practice?
Is it the band practice one?
To which we've named them Grunge Sponge.
So I don't really feel like they have much to stand on in terms of inappropriate neighbor behavior.
Between the hawking of the loogies and the grunge sponging.
Grunge Sponge is loud.
You guys are doing just fine.
It was a nice welcome to Matt.
I don't know what part of me is disabled or what part of Rachel's disabled.
That plus the ticket is a hard first day.
Yeah.
And it was still better than our honeymoon.
So we're happy to be here.
Uh,
uh,
oh,
I,
I think this type means that it's going down with some random thoughts and
white meat too.
Midwest best friends eating fast food on repeat.
So come along,
let's have some fun and go ahead.
Get on your feet.
Cause it's the Ghost Brothers Podcast.
Every Monday morning, we're taking round, Ghost Brothers Podcast.
Ghost Brothers Podcast.
Now I said I listen to a lot, but 286.
Welcome back to Ghost Brothers Podcast, episode maybe 286.
No matter what number it is, it's presented by Good Ranchers Yeehaw.
American Made Delivered.
And we have two special guests here.
We're on the island of Maui.
Yeah, two wonderful special friends of ours, TJ Macetus, Jeff Bethke, Jefferson Bethke,
if you're nasty.
I don't know.
I don't know what Alyssa calls me, baby.
That's Alyssa's name for me.
Okay, Jefferson.
I'm sorry.
The only reason he's called Jefferson Bethke
is because he writes Christian books with that name.
That's fair.
Probably shouldn't say if you're nasty.
No, yeah, just thank you guys
for being on the podcast with us.
I'll do a really poor job of introducing you guys,
and then you guys can introduce yourselves, I guess, or add in whatever.
But, well, first of all, I know these guys from Integrated,
this fatherhood group that I've talked about before,
and I could get into that for a long time,
but Integrated has changed my life for the better for sure.
And it's definitely because of TJ initially contacting me.
Oh, yeah, you're downline on TJ.
Yeah, I'm a TJ multi-level.
And then Bethke is one of the two guys
that is ultimately leading it.
Yeah, Jeremy leads it and Jeff's kind of there.
I lead 10%.
I lead 10%.
No, but TJ.
I'm the pretty face.
Along with his wife, Brooke, are walking love.
We've talked about them plenty on our podcast before.
They have a podcast.
They have a clothing line.
They also do online courses.
And just recently they have sunny Morrow brand new clothing company.
Yes.
Um,
that is,
uh,
specifically for women.
Yeah.
Um,
Lincoln bio Lincoln bio.
Yeah.
And then,
uh,
Jeff just lives on Maui.
So,
uh,
no,
I'm just kidding.
It's funny.
It's everything you just said about TJ.
You can say the same thing.
Yeah.
Courses podcast.
Yeah.
Women's clothing. Yeah. Yeah. Jeff TJ, you can say the same thing. Courses, podcast, women's clothing life.
Yeah, yeah.
Best-selling author would be an addition.
Best-selling author.
TJ's got that too.
Jeff wanted to like subtly have the book there,
but not like too much.
If you're watching on video, I hit it.
I hit it.
Yeah, right.
Let me put my book out.
Actually, if you are watching on video,
just check the background.
Half those are mine.
Half those are mine.
So there you go.
No, I'm joking.
We do got to give a shout out to Nate, by the background. Half those are mine. Half those are mine. So there you go. Yeah. I'm joking. There you go.
You got to give a shout out to Nate,
by the way.
And shout out to Nick back there.
Nick and Titus run the show.
Yes.
Yes.
I was so confident it was Nick after I met him.
Close.
Nate,
four letters,
N word,
you know,
Oh,
careful.
Oh,
you know,
yeah.
There you go.
Welcome.
Welcome.
Yes.
Um,
anyway,
just excited to have you guys here.
Thanks for being here.
We're going to do a couple episodes with these guys.
No, but really, Jeff does lots of amazing things.
But Family Teams is one of the ones that I've been most involved in directly impacted by.
If you grew up in the church and like the mid-2000s, you probably think, oh, the spoken word guy.
He does that full time. 2011, but would that be considered mid-2000s? a church and like the mid 2000s, you probably think, oh, the, uh, the spoken word guy, he
does, he does that 2011, but would that be considered mid 2000s? I guess. It's too bad.
The 2010 era is too bad. Cause it's like, you're not, no one says 2010s early tens.
Yeah. When you say mid 2000s, I think in between the zero and the 10, that's probably what
you should think. That's all right. Okay. Are we going to start calling this decade
the twenties? We're in twenties. Yeah. Yeah. Our technically mid-2000s would be 2500s. We're about 400 years
away from that, but. You might be doing spoken word, AI. Yeah. Who knows? Yeah, here we go.
Holograms. That's right. So anyway, yeah, we're here. We're recording in Jeff's barn. That's
right. Super cool. Super fun. So yeah. What do we want to talk about first, Jacob? I want to get an idea of who moves
to Hawaii. Because I've been here just a few times and I can't get a good scope of like...
Who's Nick from Hawaii? Nick? Nick? Yeah, yeah. Local? No, Nate's been here, what, 15 years?
Okay, moved here. 15 years. Okay. Mid-2000s. We've been here about 10. TJ, about three.
Yeah, coming up on three. Yeah. The people who moved here and live here now,
who are they and what are they like?
Because I want you to tell me
and I'm going to tell you who I played golf with yesterday
and we're going to see if these are the right people.
Interesting.
You want to take a look?
You would have more knowledge.
Well, there are people who have lived here
for their whole lives.
Yeah, there's transplants and there's locals.
So are you specifically asking about the transplants?
The transplants, yes.
The trans people of Hawaii.
The trans identity of Hawaii. What are they like? Yeah. I would say... And do you believe in rights for the transplants? The transplants, yes. The trans people of Hawaii. The trans identity of Hawaii. What are they like?
I would say... And do you believe
in rights for the transplants? They're misgendered
plants. Transplants. I would say you get
a lot of... Will your women's apparel company sell to
trans... Transplants? Wow. Plants.
I don't know how to respond.
Let's just try to cancel TJ and Jeff.
I would say my brand...
Alright, sorry. I would say you say, my brand name. All right, sorry.
I would say you get like, I feel like there's basically two groups.
It's like a group that really wants to live here for the lifestyle in the bro, surfer,
live in a van style way.
And then there's the people who are like, I think I can afford that.
So let's try it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would say the same thing.
We feel like, yeah, it's kind of the, you come for the lifestyle or I feel like we, our biggest thing was community.
Like Alyssa lived here in 2008, 2009. Early Jenna back then. Mid 2000s. Yeah, mid 2000s. Late to
mid early 2000s. Yeah, exactly. And just fell in love with the community. I mean, just amazing
families, amazing people, amazing cultures. And so, yeah, that's why we hopped in. So do y'all
get, y'all were married for a few years before you moved here? I mean, Alyssa were married for
like two years. Yeah. Okay. Before we jumped.
Gotcha.
Wow.
Yeah.
Cause I feel like straight from the airport,
we go to like some market,
we get an Iced City Bowl.
There's a guy who just walks in wearing like basically a burlap sack for a shirt and pants.
It was all one.
It was a romper.
Yeah.
That's Ned.
Yeah.
I was going to say,
now that you're small enough,
I think I know exactly what you're talking about.
He came up with no shoes and just grabbed one mango and just like slapped some cash
on the counter.
And I was like, that guy. Which is surprising too, because you can just go pick a mango off a tree, you know?
And so yeah, mango sack guy.
I've seen him.
Mango sack.
I've seen him.
Whoa, is that your mango sack?
He's happy to see me.
Oh man.
I'm just thinking if there's those people, it's like very much a hippie culture.
100%.
Yeah.
There's a bunch of different verticals.
I would say you got the local population.
You got actually Hawaiian native population, which is part of local population, but its own kind of hippie culture. A hundred percent. Yeah. There's a bunch of different verticals. I would say you got the local population. You got actually Hawaiian native population,
which is part of local population,
but its own kind of vertical and culture.
You got all the Polynesian cultures.
Then you got,
yeah,
with the transplants,
you got hippie culture that kind of,
you know,
the people that are breastfeeding in the river with their kids and all that.
I mean,
that's a real thing that you see like every other day.
I have seen the river.
Why the river?
Why the river?
The most whitest women.
Just get out of the river.
Like the whitest women you can ever think of are just, they're just breast, there's knockers out in the river? Why in the river? The most whitest women. Just get out of the river. The whitest women you can ever think of,
they're just knockers out in the river.
They're all my friends.
All your friends.
I have seen a woman breastfeed on a trampoline
at the trampoline park.
In the midair?
She's not.
She was latched in the air?
She was in midair.
She's jumping on video.
That needs to be the clip.
That's the clip. That's the clip.
Come on, Mason.
Pick it up. That hit you.
That hit you. Yes, it did.
It doesn't count if you hit him.
No head shots.
Use him as a shield.
No, in all actuality, though.
Amazing people. Those people are incredible and nice
and awesome. That's going to be a healthy baby.
Seriously, guys.
Seriously, though. You've seen that people are incredible and nice and awesome. That's going to be a healthy baby. Seriously, guys. Seriously, that's going to be a healthy baby.
Seriously, though. You've seen that? Yes.
I couldn't look away either. I was like,
it's like,
what am I? Oh.
This guy's got to get covered in ice.
What is she holding that ball?
Yes.
Hippie culture is a strong culture here.
I always relate it to like, it has like aspects of Portland
almost a little bit, but with like island culture as well.
Really?
You guys are lucky.
Anyone who lives in somewhere
where you can call it an aspect of Portland.
Yeah, you're just like, that's all I wanted.
That's all I wanted.
It's a nice sliver of Portland.
It's all I've looked for.
Yeah, I hope someday to make enough money
where I get a sliver of Portland.
That must be nice.
That's great.
I do feel like what you have with Maui,
which is really cool,
is like you do have so many transplants
and so that you end up making really good, deep friendships
where, like on the mainland, you would just default
to spending time with your family and going to nieces
and nephews' birthday parties, which is great.
That's not a bad thing.
But here, because you're sort of isolated from family
most of the time, you do end up sort of having
really rich friendships. That's a good point.
It's kind of aware. Like, hey, we all moved here. We're all looking for
friends. Look for it more easily.
So, Jeff, they kind of heard this last night. We shouldn't
have hung out last night, honestly. That was the worst thing
we could have done for the podcast. Without the invite.
But it's good because now we can tell you
stories. I was 45 minutes away. I probably just said that.
But anyways, you were probably asleep.
I was going to bed
getting ready for that.
Rachel and I played a little spontaneous golf yesterday.
We weren't planning on it.
We just go to this golf course.
She's going to play nine holes.
And we're having a nice time.
She's got her book out.
I'm golfing.
It's a great vibe.
The Hell with the Hustle by Jefferson Bethke.
Was that the book?
Yeah.
Yeah.
She was reading.
Take Back Your Family.
That's not what you think.
Maybe it's Love That Lasts.
Maybe it's a brand new one coming out in March.
Maybe it's Fighting Shadows. Yeah. Maybe it's Fighting Shadows.
Maybe it's Jesus Great in Religion.
She was reading Satisfied by Alyssa
Joy back then.
Touche.
We were having a truly great time. The two guys in front
of us are waving me
up. So I'm like, oh sweet, I get to play through.
It said it was an invitation to play with.
And I was glad because they were smoking cigarettes
and drinking out of flasks.
This is good.
This is kind of what I was wanting.
Was it the Kihei Public Course?
This was, yeah, probably.
The minute you said cigarettes and flasks,
I knew it probably wasn't Wiley.
There's someone in a water hazard over there
just breastfeeding.
You can't beat the price.
You can't beat the price.
Especially Twilight.
It was great.
So we
joined in with him and learned
pretty quickly that one of the other guys I paired
up with is a comedian as well.
So it was awesome. You love that.
Were you guys riffing? I love that for you. Were you riffing?
It was like Ryan Stiles and Wayne Brady.
It was unbelievable out there.
I don't even know the Ryan Stiles.
Who's Ryan Stiles?
I know Wayne Brady. Maybe I have to know a face. Would I know a face? Yeah. Who's Ryan Stel anyway?
Like the tall skinny guy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I didn't know that was his name. Classic show.
Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. No, he was not entertaining in the least bit. He called me Zach, Seth,
and Jack. Just any number of those. He couldn't get anything straight, but he did try out a joke
on me one time. Are you going to give it to us? Yeah, yeah. Because I just want you guys
to be able to appreciate how-
It's so good.
Yeah, it's something
you can retell to other people.
Worthy.
It works with any audience.
Well, actually, first,
he wasn't really trying out a joke on me.
He was telling me
why Hawaii is so great.
He was like,
you know,
why I like Hawaii,
I moved here from Seattle.
I like it because Hawaii,
you can make fun of each other here.
I was like,
oh yeah, no one else does that.
That's awesome.
Really original. Yeah, That's so cool.
Barbecue here is incredible. Yeah. I've just never heard of that reason for moving. You can make fun of people. Yeah. Wow. It's awesome. And so he immediately after that,
he goes, you know, like for instance, I used to date this Filipino girl
and she wants to get a black dog and I'm telling her we can't get a black dog. And I'm telling her, we can't get a black dog.
Thoughts?
No, that's it.
I got the punchline.
It's coming.
I got the punchline.
It's coming.
That was it.
Tell me how that moment was
for those five seconds of like,
did you?
Yeah, how long did you wait
before you said something?
I'm the guy that publicly would say like,
is there more?
I wouldn't play along.
I kind of realized, I was like, oh, I should have. I missed the laughing moment. I already missed the time play along i i kind of realized i was like oh i
should have this i missed the time i should have laughed so i was like oh i i'm not aware of like
this stereotype of black dogs like i don't really get that one yeah and then the other friend piped
in and said oh you've got to be microdosing to get that one so this is kind of yeah that was the
sliver of portland yeah yeah there you go ohana so. So I was like, maybe that's what Hawaii is like.
A bunch of cigarettes and black dog jokes that I don't understand.
Not at all.
Everyone's much better.
It's the most loving, incredible, welcoming...
Yeah, I wouldn't ever describe it as a place where people make fun of each other.
That seems like a bold move right off the bat.
That's weird.
That's strange.
That's a strange test.
Out of all qualities that you could say for...
You know what's great about this place?
You could say like the Oh Ohio spirit, open door policy,
everyone is really rich in friendship and community.
But you know why you need to live in Hawaii?
You can make fun of each other.
We just razz on each other all day.
I would give that to my former state.
Well, the city most pronounced in my former state of Philadelphia.
Yes.
Like Raz Capital?
Yeah.
Or just more like Bitterness Central.
Mean.
Kind of like Philly, Boston.
Maybe more like Meanville, USA.
You know?
Yeah.
It was a rough two hours.
We actually paid for 18 and ended up only playing nine.
So we got to get out of here.
You got to get out of here.
Every sentence, it was a mental battle to figure out what they were talking about.
One guy, get up to the green.
And the other guy's like, I need to get the drone out of here.
So I'm like, I'm trying to figure out what in the world does that mean? We have not talked about drones yet. I don't know what it's all. Of course I'm going
like DJI drones or Obama. I don't know yet. I don't know yet. We haven't talked about any of
this. So I'm just going, Oh, you know, maybe you're at the point where you didn't want more
information. Yeah. Just maybe we need to. Um, and he was like, yeah, it's your comedy show on
Thursday. New curve ball. Now I really don't understand. I And he was like, yeah, it's your comedy show on Thursday.
New curveball.
Now I really don't understand.
I think he was angling for an opening spot.
And he thought, you know what?
I got that Black Dog joke.
Yeah.
I got two in the hopper.
I'm going to go for it.
The Black Dog and the drone.
Give me a 67-second slot.
And I think I'm on tour.
I think I'm coming to Australia withia with you guys that's what it
was he's like i'll do the black dog joke it'd be great if we get a film with a drone i would love
to have it filmed yeah so yeah he's just like and yeah we bring the drone to the comedy show on
thursday and i was like oh yeah you got a drone and he was like no and i go you don't have one
and he goes well dji phantom 4 and i was like yeah. As if that's not a drone, but that's like the main drone people would be talking about.
I mean, that's just one example.
I mean, every time I got out of the cart, I would experience something I've never experienced before.
That plus neighbor plus ticket.
Like, I will say you've had one of the most abnormal first 48 hours of Maui.
And I'm not joking.
Hello, Goatsies.
I'm so sorry to be interrupting this very, very fun episode.
But Rachel here just will not shut up about main tree roasters
see stuff like that and so we're gonna come here from the Oahu dressing room Oh
Katie sorry it's podcast ads hey uh Katie's here. Got an audience.
Check them out.
I feel like someone just posted.
You're not interrupting anything.
It's okay.
Someone just posted to the Facebook group recently.
They're like, you know what?
Influencer marketing works.
I'm going to private label my own coffee.
How do I do it?
MainStreetRoasters.com.
Hit them up.
They'll figure it out for you.
I challenged someone this year.
Buy as much Main Street Roasters, as many waters as we were given today in the green room i'm not sure who they thought was coming if it was some sort of fish but pretty good spread just wish there
were more water um so majorroasters.com promo code is grkc this christmas season get somebody
something they could put in their stocking or in their mug or in their mouth. Thoughts, Rachel? I can smell it growing.
She got a good nose.
GRKC, check it out.
Back to the episode.
That is absurdly strange.
Let's talk about the ticket now.
Yeah.
We've all gotten the ticket.
Well, the golf story also had the video, which is honestly too long to play in a podcast.
No.
His warm up.
Send me the video.
Well, you can clip it in.
Clip, clip it in.
It's so long.
I've not even played golf before,
and I could tell that this guy is weird.
That video is unbelievable.
It does need to be used.
Put it at the end of the podcast, the video.
You've got to be reacting to it, right?
Do you play golf, Jeff?
I have no confidence.
I'm not a golfer.
I'm down. Pop it in.
Titus can pull it down smaller.
Get Titus in there.
Here you go. Just press play on this video.
I started recording
right when he started to line up for a shot.
You just play it and we'll put it in later.
It's going to probably be off screen on the right.
Time and make it happen. Here we go.
I'm not a golfer, but I can tell
that this is weird. This is the guy. This is Danny. He's ready. I'm not a golfer, but I can tell that this is weird.
This is the guy?
Yep.
This is Danny.
He's ready.
I will say he looks normal.
This is worth going to YouTube
to check out.
Genuinely.
His dress and his demeanor,
he looks normal so far.
Yeah, he looks like
a standard golfer.
This is a minute
and ten seconds.
Okay, here we go.
He's lining up.
You guys are watching this.
You're seeing what I'm seeing.
You're seeing what I'm seeing.
You got to get the wrist rolls in to warm up.
Okay.
It looks to me like his club is in front of his ball.
Yes, he does that every shot.
Okay.
He puts his club in front of his ball.
That's just standard.
That's just standard.
What on earth?
That's just standard.
You got to know where it's going to know where to set it.
That makes sense.
You got to have a plan.
Also, the leg tats.
Is that like, looks like.
Oh, he's off.
He's off.
He's off.
He's out.
He's on the flag again off. He's out.
Do you think that's normal or do you think something happened?
I think something didn't sit right with him.
You've got to feel the land.
There is a bird right there.
It's far right.
He might have gotten a little nervous.
Let's get the wrist warm back up.
Wrist cooled off.
Why is he doing this?
Now we've got to get the stretch in the arm.
The club in front of the ball is the most important. All right.
This is going to be one of the best shots we've ever seen.
I can feel it.
Does he just shank?
Please tell me.
Who knows?
Here we go.
All right.
Here it is.
Okay.
Were you almost running out of battery power?
Back swing.
Oh, my God.
It's still in the frame. It's still in the frame.
It's still in the same frame.
It's in the frame of the video.
It's a great reaction.
The ball went seven inches.
I don't know much about golf, but that ain't it.
I don't play golf either, but that ain't it.
And you said this guy did that like often.
Every hit.
Yeah, I don't think I noticed it the first tee box
because, you know, I just met these guys. And then the first time
we're on the green and he's going up to putt and he's putting
his putter in front of the ball. He's like making a crop
circle. That was the weirdest thing I've ever seen with
the front. Yeah, so I was like, next time
he hits, I'm going to get a video of it. You already need to come
back to Maui again so we can give you a better first
four year.
Yeah, it's been very eventful. The ticket?
Yeah, let's talk about the ticket.
Yeah, ticket.
That guy's notorious.
It was so funny.
Yeah, I get pulled over,
and I knew I was going under the speed limit.
I'm in a rental car with updated plates.
You know, I was like,
I have no idea why I'm going to get pulled over.
This is kind of fun.
That feeling didn't last long,
but it's kind of cool.
I wonder what he wants to talk about.
And right away, just so mean.
Motorcycle.
Well, you know what's a bummer?
He's one of the most efficient cops I've ever seen?
It's like you're on your phone.
Here's the ticket.
See ya.
Yeah, he was efficient.
You know what the bummer is, is I see that there's a cop car behind me.
Like, oh, got to pull over.
And then he goes, no, it's you.
He points at you.
No, it's you, man.
He points.
Okay.
Dude, he's notorious.
You got a ticket from him.
No, I've never.
I just learned about him the other night.
A guy's night.
A guy's night.
He literally, I mean, I think I got a ticket from him like seven years ago, six years ago just learned about him the other night. Oh, yeah. That guy's night. He literally, I mean,
I think I got a ticket
from him like seven years ago,
six years ago,
and he's just,
it's only in Kihei.
He's always on a motorcycle.
And that dude,
and when I tell you,
I was at a stoplight
on my phone,
so that's fair.
Stoplight phone?
Dude, yeah,
I think you're technically parked
if you're not going over
five miles an hour or whatever.
But here's the thing, though.
He's a ninja, bro,
because he didn't turn lights on.
I didn't see him.
I'm looking down at my phone, bam, bam, bam on the driver window. And I like,
that would scare the crap out of him. And then within five seconds, the ticket was written and
he was out of there and it's like a $400 ticket. Yeah. Yeah. Service fee to pay online too. Yeah,
exactly. I know that. I know. And so, I mean, I did quote, I did math for you. I feel like I've
done quotas with that guy before. I'm like, Hey, that guy's doing at one every 10 minutes,
which is interesting. He's pulling in 20 grand a day for the county.
I saw him pull someone over that morning on the way back from the gym.
It's the same spot, same place.
It's always for the phone, never speeding, never anything else.
Yeah.
That guy's got a system.
He's the county sugar daddy.
He's getting a cut of that.
Yes.
There's some corruption there.
He's got an affiliate link on his own ticket.
Yeah, that dude's getting a lot of promotions in his day.
We pulled out of the parking lot after we got the know, got the ticket and we leave and he'd already
had someone else pulled over. Yeah. It's so fast. Well done, sir. Well done. Yeah. So I'm one of
the locals now. Yep. I'm trans. Do you think, do you think that we could like heckle him or
something? Like, can we go back to where we find him and like, just mess with him? He doesn't seem
like he would enjoy that. No, Exactly. I think that's the point.
I don't know.
Just do something. Or try to like help him but be
obnoxious about it. Hey, that guy's on his phone.
Like distract him by helping. Act like you're
helping him. I got another one right there.
Red sedan.
He's on his phone.
Found it.
Found it.
Welcome to Maui with those three things.
Do you feel like you guys have changed a lot?
Have you become more Maui culture?
That's a great question.
Has Maui received...
Three years is probably long enough for you to have something.
I feel like what's happened to me is
I feel like what it does
is you're so removed from where you normally live.
We're 5,000 miles away.
I feel like it allows you to kind of maybe step into more of the version God
created you to be like there.
You're less worried about maybe what people think or what,
how people will react because like you'll run into someone who's like,
Oh,
I,
you know,
I was surfing this morning and then I sell cars and then I'm a painter.
And so I just feel like there's like,
you wouldn't get that reaction that you might get,
like,
especially in the Northeast of like, what do you, wait, what you wait what do you do oh yeah it's all about high performance
yeah like wait what that doesn't make sense you know and so i feel like it's been very freeing
to both brooke and i to just like kind of pursue the things that we enjoy and yeah be confident in
that pursuit you're not really into painting yeah painting i've gotten in gotten more into fitness
people got time here bro yeah i just feel like it's just it just allowed me to kind of just like what do i enjoy
and what do i want to do and i'm going to try those things you do feel like you have more time
because like i always think it's still a grind but yeah when you when you go on vacation somewhere
obviously you feel like oh this is amazing if i lived here i would have so much time and we still
have real life yes exactly you still have to worry about there's something about just the community
aspect and certainly the hawaiian about something about just the community aspect and
certainly the Hawaiian local culture that just slows everybody down and kind
of pulls everyone down.
I'd say the two things,
the first one's a cousin to what TJ said.
Um,
like you,
you,
you in a healthy way,
you're very disconnected from like the mainland news or internet anxiety.
Like it's just like,
who's the president?
I don't know.
Right.
I haven't checked for 14 years.
Now, of course I know my job. I need to know. But there is an element of that. Certainly when
I talk to other people, like they don't care. They don't know. Like, you know what I mean?
Or it's just like that ridiculous, hyper-intense spirit that is on the mainland right now because
of news and internet and social anxiety, social media anxiety. It doesn't really hit here as much.
So I like that a lot. And then two, certainly time, like just to just, which, which for people. So there's a phrase in Hawaii
called a talk story. And it basically just means like you always, as an act of honor
and culture, you're always, you need to always be ready to like talk story, which means if
you see someone at Costco, you see someone at target, you see, it's a very small town
Southern thing.
I thought you were saying like a Hawaiian word that was T OO-K-S-T-A-R-A.
Talk story.
Talk story?
Like we said talk story, bro.
Hey, brother.
Hey, brother.
T-O-K.
T-O-K.
Just like walk.
Talk story.
No, no.
It's just called talk story.
I mean, it's just like you're just like catching up with that person.
If you're ever too quick of like trying to get away from someone or something, then it's
kind of like, oh, that's just not the vibe here.
I do think Maui does choose some people out and spit them out.
Really?
In the sense of like they can't do that. Yeah. So they. I do think Maui does choose some people out and spit them out. Really?
In the sense of like,
they can't do that.
Yeah.
So they go home. They can't slow down.
So they go home.
Interesting.
And there's an element of like,
you know,
everywhere you can go on Maui
is like 40 minutes away.
That's a road trip, bro.
Snacks, playlist, hydration.
And so like,
you guys think about like,
how much you drive.
Like my last trip to the mainland,
I was just like,
driving.
I was like,
man,
I have driven so much and it like affected me.
And so here I just think like you don't drive as much, you don't go as many places.
And so that gives you a little bit more breathing room in your life to maybe pursue or do some
things.
There's no such thing as that.
Like I get up really early and drive an hour and a half for a commute.
Right.
Like an hour and a half on the other side of the island.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's something I don't know.
Jeff, write a book about this or something.
Like, cause there's some depth there of like,
or TJ.
Yeah, I wouldn't like to be considered.
I mean, but like something about like this,
like, I don't know,
like the world used to be way smaller,
quote unquote, you know, back in the,
whatever, whatever, in our childhood,
even I feel like we are,
we are old enough to where, yeah,
we are old enough to where like in the nineties, like we remember when life was not quite as
connected and it was sweet. Like, I don't know. The child, we were the last generation that will
have that. Hey, you can't come home until the street light lamp is on. Or that's a sadness
that that's not a thing. Where are kids hanging out? Let me figure it out by where all the bikes
are parked. Yeah. Not by, group text or Snapchat. Or location sharing.
Yeah.
Location sharing.
Yeah.
And I do feel like
I hope Maui has some of that.
Like it feels like
we traveled back in time
a little bit.
Sometimes that's not
a great experience here,
but like for our kids specifically,
like they just play outside.
Like today it rained
and they played out in the rain.
Yeah.
Or today's a perfect example
of Hawaii culture
of like everyone has time
for everyone.
That's just part of the culture. You guys seen, and if you've seen on Instagram, hunted the, everyone has time for everyone. This was part of the culture you guys seen.
And if you've seen on Instagram,
hunted the pig,
killed the pig,
killed a hog,
that's been terrorizing our property.
But a buddy of mine,
I literally called him at 2 AM.
He didn't answer cause he was sleeping.
Then I called him at 5 AM.
He was up cause I don't own a weapon.
So I can't kill a hog.
Yeah.
And the dude like,
he's got two of them.
Yeah.
I mean,
on video,
baby,
you see this,
who CrossFit now?
Who CrossFit now?
Okay.
I do as of a month ago. That's why I took my own horn right there. But video, baby. You see this? Who crossfits now? Who crossfits now? I do as of a month ago.
That's why I took my own heart right there.
But no, he's
got a full-time job and makes good money
and is an awesome dad and has eight kids.
The dude was just like, I'll be right there. He was up at the house at
5.46 a.m. to shoot a pig for me.
Then he went back home to grab his
four kids and another
friend, and they all just cruised up. It was just
so, and we butchered a pig at 9 a.m.
That's such a picture of just... Everyone's got time for everyone.
Let's go back on... Let's talk.
Yeah, let's talk about hogs. Dude.
You've been documenting some on your Instagram.
If anyone wants Instagram tips, if you're watching this,
I've had 3x engagement
by going from talking about Jesus
to talking about wild hogs.
Just trying to help men
become men.
Yes.
Now you guys know,
because you guys know me.
I mean, it has been a journey
because I'm like the least
kind of traditional masculine.
I've never shot a gun
or I've shot a gun once.
I almost blew my thumb off.
That's a whole nother story.
Where was your thumb?
Huh?
Like on the end of the barrel.
Okay, quick story.
We don't have time for the whole story,
but the quick story is
I've never shot a gun.
The friend that was supposed
to help me shoot it did not help me shoot it. It was a.50 Cal the whole story, but the quick story is I've never shot a gun. The friend that was supposed to help me shoot it
did not help me shoot it.
It was a.50 Cal Barrett sniper,
which is not a good gun to make your first gun shot.
I mean, how big are those?
They're literally like probably four or five inch bullets.
Which we would say is big, right?
Yeah.
Right?
Like that's a, you would see that bullet.
You'd say, that's a big bullet.
I mean, when it comes out, it's a big bullet.
It depends.
Hard force, soft force, different conversation.
But anyways, so I'm the only left-handed shooter of the day.
And I don't know what you call it.
It's called the chamber or like the pole thing.
The thing you pull, pull thing, pull thing.
Yeah.
It's a pole thing.
We're big men too.
Yeah.
Does anyone know the name of that?
I don't know.
Pull thing.
I think, uh, in Hawaii, Nick says pull thing.
Yeah.
But anyways, I'm left-handed.
So I was the only one that like my right hand is my hold hand on the barrel.
And my thumb was on that thing.
And when I shot it,
it just blew my thumb off and just like blood everywhere.
I had to get,
it looks amazing,
but I got stitches all the way from nail to nail.
Terrible.
Yeah.
That's not the pig story.
So I'm not very masculine and I don't know any of these things,
but a pig start terrorizing our yard like two weeks ago.
And the thing you don't want to mess with with me is my landscaping.
Okay.
Yeah.
You've gotten really into it.
I spent two years trying to grow these really pretty white flowers on this hillside we have
under our citrus trees.
I spent tons of money.
I spent tons of energy, two years trying to get them to grow and kind of like ground cover
this entire huge area.
And then they finally got to just like chef's kiss, maximum potential.
We're taking photos out there.
It's so vibey.
And then a week later, these things just destroy them,
break sprinkler heads, break irrigation lines.
What are they doing?
So it's called, this is all after Googling.
Rubbing around?
Yeah, this is all after Googling.
That's my move, too.
I hate these flowers.
Yes, it's called rooting.
They're breastfeeding in the flowers.
Yes, exactly.
A lot of teats on people.
A lot of teats.
It's called rooting, apparently.
And they just like, I don't know what they're looking for,
worms or food.
I don't know, but they're digging. And they just like, I don't know what they're looking for worms or food. I don't know,
but they're digging and they just like chomp and break and destroy stuff.
So it's very normal that, uh,
hogs can destroy a lot of stuff.
So I didn't even know that's what it was at first.
I posted on Instagram.
I was like,
guys,
who's destroying our yard.
Everyone's at hogs.
So then I started YouTube and traps.
I set up a trap.
Long story short,
it's an Instagram highlight.
If you want to stop and pause and go see it right now,
cause it's very good entertainment.
Long story short.
Uh,
yeah,
it was like a 10 day journey of like, i trapped them but then they escaped we tried to
shoot him with a bow we missed they didn't come back for three nights we finally got him last
night and like i said they showed up i i i've been checking my camera every time i wake up to go to
the bathroom in the middle of the night and see if they're there and so about 1 a.m this morning
i looked at the camera the two fatties were in the trap that i set like what a man that feels good doesn't what a man that i youtubed a trap from a southern man with terrible video
quality which means 10 out of 10 yeah it's gonna be the best trap i'm gonna ever find
takes a five minute video instead of one you know what we're gonna do today is
it was the thickest thick accent of everything and he shot in square video who shoots square
yeah how do you even do that and he's like, he's like ten
feet from. Yes, and it was
a forty. This is my favorite part. It was no like
fluff. It was a forty four second video. Oh
like I got a hog problem.
Here's the thing. You just book about this and then
traps and we're done.
So I'll let you say
I'm what a man I am. I set out the
trap. I caught these pigs twice. I called
a twelve year old boy to shoot. Yeah. Okay. Yes. Yes.
Cause they were messing with my flowers.
Touche. I needed that. I needed that.
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But I'll have to say,
as of this morning, less than two hours ago, I still had blood
on my hands from those hogs.
Yeah.
So we're having bacon tonight, baby.
Bro, I'm not eating that thing.
Have you hooked it up?
Is it like...
Yeah, it's supposed to be better.
It is better.
It's a delicacy.
Guys kill it.
Really?
Uh-huh.
Because, okay...
The only thing that's interesting, they don't have bacon.
You just said we were having bacon.
I know.
It's just because... It sounds better. hey, we're going to have ham.
We're going to have pork shoulder.
Because they're working pigs,
and so they don't develop enough fat layer on the belly.
Yeah, they're rooting too much.
Yeah.
So their bacon is literally like a quarter inch thick.
Interesting.
Yeah.
That's not bad.
Have you gone down the rabbit hole?
Yeah.
It's bacon.
That's turkey bacon.
Edible.
Have you gone down that rabbit?
Did you watch that video of the wild hogs? Like the movie? Oh yeah. Tim Allen.
Yeah. Wild hogs. Yeah. I was watching on the flight yesterday. No, um, there's that like
documentary. I mean a little 10 minute documentary thing on YouTube. They're gnarly. They can kill
you, but they're talking about how you can just go in Texas.
They're just absolutely overrun.
Have you seen with like the AR-15s and the helicopter?
That's what I'm talking about, dude.
Yeah.
You just pay two grand or whatever and you just get two hours in a helicopter, unlimited
ammo, and you just mow them down.
If you guys ever are like, Brad, you've done a lot for me.
I need something from, or I need to buy you something.
I want that.
Texas, they are actually so invasive there that they're like wreaking havoc on the ecosystem,
the fences, the farms, the agriculture. Right. But in that video, it's so funny because
there's one guy that's like, no, you should absolutely never eat these things. These things
are disgusting. They carry disease. Maybe in Texas, not here. And then right from there,
they cut to another like country boy is like, oh no, I eat those things all the time.
That might be the guy that made your video.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Yes, that might be true on the mainland.
But you feel like they're good here.
Guys say it's better.
Okay.
Guys say it's better than farm pig.
So is that white meat?
No.
No?
Okay.
No, but pigs aren't red meat.
Yeah, it is.
Any mammal is red meat.
No, no, no.
Red meat, no, no.
Chickens aren't mammals?
No, no.
Red meat is cow and lamb. Gosh, I'm an idiot. You no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, red meat is cow and lamb.
That's it.
I'm an idiot.
You are wrong.
I'm the one with the allergy.
Why would I lie?
But it's just not called red meat then.
Red meat's cow and lamb.
Chicken, poultry, that's a different meat.
Pork?
I don't know.
I wouldn't consider that red meat.
Why would you not?
Because red meat is like the brown one with the red stuff inside.
Not the pink one.
That's so scientific.
Oh, never mind.
Soft, soft peach pink.
Do you have an allergy to Soft, soft peach pink.
Do you have an allergy to soft, soft peach pink meat?
You're like my three-year-old when I'm like, I'm playing guess who and I'm like, okay, does he have red hair?
He's like, no, it's orange.
I'm like, well, that's what they call it.
Like, no, it's not red meat because it's not red.
I have to say, I mean, I trust you because you have the allergy.
My whole life I thought red meat was just the actual dark, like anything that can look
medium rare and be cooked medium rare and look red still.
We have gotten comments about like, Jake, you should be able to eat pork.
I wouldn't consider pork that. Have you tried and the allergy develops the same?
Yeah, basically I'm allergic to the sugar molecule that's found in meat that comes from mammals.
See, that's better than saying I'm allergic to red meat.
Yeah, you should start with that.
Meaning that's done.
I say one in every like 500 people I talk to question me on what red meat is.
So this really doesn't come up that often.
Put that in your Instagram bio.
Sugar molecules, call the alpha gal.
So, any land mammal
meat, but you can have fish.
Yeah. Interesting.
Crack the code on that one.
What about a lizard?
How far can we take this? Bugs?
Things that are clearly not even kind of mammals.
Not exciting.
What about a fish?
Dragon. Interesting. So, I not exciting. What about a fish? Dragon.
Interesting.
Yeah, so I can't have the wild boar.
Okay.
Well, I'm not making it tonight anyways.
I'm joking.
Technically, because I didn't know this.
I'm not a hunter.
Apparently, you like butcher it first,
the first draft.
I don't know what you call it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
First pass.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
The outline.
The outline.
The syllabus.
From an author.
Okay, so first draft of the butchering.
It's more like a rough butcher, which is, it's all de-skinned.
It's all broken into massive pieces with bones still in.
Okay.
And I guess it sits in a cooler for like four or five days to drain the blood.
Then you do like the actual like restaurant or grocery store cuts.
And your editor comes in.
The editor comes in.
Presses like command A.
Just done.
Cut.
Right there, you know.
Done. Interesting. There you go. Cool. Yeah, I didn't really know all that was going on. I just woke up to a text from you. Presses like command A Just done, cut Right there, you know Done
Interesting
There you go
Cool, yeah
I didn't really know
All that was going on
I just woke up to a text from you
With a dead boar head
Yeah
A skinned hog
Yeah
Well, I was
I'm planning on staying here
For a couple days
At the end of our trip
And I was really hoping
That the hogs were still there
Let's get the buck
Let's get the buck
Okay
Because have you seen
The massive buck
That's been chilling in the air
And you said
We can just kill those two
Technically it's illegal I think Technically I think It's illegal to shoot After dark Okay Let's get the buck. Okay. Because have you seen the massive buck that's been chilling in the yard? And you said we can just kill those two?
Technically, it's illegal, I think.
Technically, I think it's illegal to shoot after dark.
Okay.
But there is no season with deer here because they're invasive.
So it's like, get them out of here.
They're not good for the ecosystem.
Because think about it.
Hawaii has zero, zero land predators.
So those deer are freaking having babies for days like a Mormon family.
You know what I'm saying?
Or Jehovah's Witness.
That's how competitively they are. But yeah. I got the trail camera showing me we've got a Mormon family. You know what I'm saying? Or Jehovah's Witness. That's how competitively they are.
But yeah, so I got the trail camera showing me we got a fat buck.
That was a big old thing. So again,
I don't know deer, but my buddy said I got to go get like a deer
block. Have you heard of that? No, I'm not a...
So it's like a block. It's a block
for deer. And apparently
it's like a bunch of glued up, mushed
up like food that they kind of can slowly
munch at. You can't trap deer,
but you want to get them in one place for a long time that you can just
pop them. Oh, you could trap a deer.
You could trap a deer.
I'm sure that guy's got a square baby.
It's true.
We'll try to get that this weekend.
It's interesting being here.
I mean, it's not quite December yet, but
Christmas season...
Trees are up, lights are up.
Have you gotten used to that aspect of like... 100%. I mean, it's not quite December yet, but like in Christmas season. Oh, bro. Trees are up. Lights are up. What's that?
Yeah.
Have you gotten used to that aspect of like?
100%.
Like, do you feel like it's wintertime?
Up here, yes.
Because it's a little colder and different up here.
You might say something different with Kihei.
The only thing I would say that you get used to like, I like Christmas 80 degrees going
to the beach.
The only thing that it really messes you up on, tell me if you agree with this, is memory.
When every day
is sunny i have a hard time placing when the memory was years ago when like when it's very easy
when it's very easy for me when we're traveling to be like oh we were in colorado when it was
snowing it was february yeah you look at a picture and you see that you're wearing a jacket yeah it's
very difficult to not have memory blur when it's all literally the same weather every single day
agree or disagree i would agree with that I would say I'm still in the phase
of being almost three years in
where it's...
You came from Philly, bro.
That's a hard winter.
Where it still shocks me
when I go outside in December,
November, December.
Like, specifically,
this must be just like a memory for me
when I'm taking out the trash.
So like...
It's supposed to be cold.
It's supposed to be cold.
And I'm going to run out,
but I'm like,
I have bare feet on
and I'm just going to do it
and get it over with. Yeah, just suck it up because I'm just going to do it and get it over with.
Yeah.
And so there's a moment.
I'm not going to get super dressed for 15 seconds.
So there's a moment when I go to take out the trash here where I think I need to do that.
And then I walk out and I'm like.
You like brace yourself.
It's warm.
Do you guys remember living like that where you got to like defrost a car, scrape the ice?
Oh yeah.
I do.
I remember that.
I remember that.
Like specifically, you know,
because my family still lives in the Northeast,
and so when they're sending photos in January and February
in the group chat, then it sort of hits me again.
And our girls are outside bare feet running up and down the street.
I'm like, this is so different than I ever pictured my life being.
Right.
And so it's like 10 days of rain a year, crazy hot.
We woke up to a pretty good amount of rain this morning.
So nine left.
Yep, that's right.
Nine left, baby.
Up here's a different story.
It rains a lot up here.
Yeah, it was such a big deal.
The girls went out and played for two hours.
They were like, it's rainy.
Can we go play?
Oh, really?
We were pumped about it.
It's our version of snow, certainly in Kihei.
Yeah, it's just interesting.
Home Alone, when he's like, who wants to spend Christmas in a tropical climate anyway?
Yeah. Home Alone when he's like, who wants to spend Christmas in a tropical climate anyway?
I do love, and maybe it's just my own mental,
you got to love the cold because
that's part of the...
There is a strong feeling of nostalgia
associating cold weather with
those holidays.
Would you say we can cheat it up here though?
Because up here we do fires.
You guys can do it up here.
You love it.
It's worth it. You can can do it up here. But you love it.
It's worth it.
You can go to the beach on Christmas morning.
You ain't just dragging.
Oh, man.
Right.
I'm just trying to get some kind of thing.
Honestly, Kansas is just fine. Yeah, it's just great.
Was it 25 degrees when you guys left?
22.
Yeah, that's awesome.
I love that.
Snow on the ground?
I love that for both of you guys.
Snow on the ground, yeah.
That's great.
And my wife is from Texas. Sorry, Jake's wife just hates the cold as well. Snow on the ground. I love that for both of you guys. Snow on the ground. Yeah. That's great. And my wife is from Texas.
Sorry, Jake's wife just hates the cold as well.
And so, yeah.
No, boy, no.
Are you guys neighbors?
Literally two doors down.
Yeah.
Who's the in-betweener?
We don't know.
We should know our neighbors better.
There's literally one house separation.
We don't like, they're random.
Just park in front of their driveway and see if they can help.
They don't talk to disabled people.
I don't care where you park.
I don't care where you park.
Yeah, I was not looking for a house to buy
I wasn't even engaged to Rachel yet
and then Brad was just like hey this house is going up across the street
it's for sale I was like cool
it doesn't matter you kind of blew it off
I'm going to text to Rachel
you should knock on the neighbor's door and say can we get one closer
can we get you on the side
well we're in Hawaii now that's why we're asking these questions
we're scoping it out
we'd love to have you.
That's how this guy got here.
You just visit sooner or later,
and then all of a sudden you get the bug in your bloodstream,
and boom.
Then you can't eat ham.
Different kind of bug.
You can't eat a sugar molecule.
Shout out to ticks.
Do you guys have ticks here?
No, I don't think so.
I don't know.
Nate, do we have ticks here?
You would know.
Nate, you're a tick guy.
Nate, you look good.
You got a lot of ticks. He just lived here long enough, been around long enough I don't know. Nate, do we have ticks here? You would know. Nate, you're a tick guy. Nate, you look like you've got a lot of ticks.
He just lived here long enough,
been around long enough,
he would know.
No ticks?
No ticks.
It is another massive pro of Hawaii.
Think of every other tropical place in the world.
Snakes.
Well, like just-
Costa Rica.
Yeah.
Puerto Rico.
Exactly.
Australia.
Bahamas.
Venezuela.
All those places.
All those tropical places are usually-
Give me three more.
Trinidad, Cuba.
Trinidad, Cuba Trinidad, Cuba
Miami
China maybe
Thailand for sure
Thailand
yeah
okay the real famous ones
like Australia
Costa Rica
Australia Costa Rica
any other tropical places
Florida
Fiji
Florida yeah
Florida
all of those places
have a million things
that can kill you
a million things
Australia certainly
okay
tropical is usually
associated with a lot of
things that can kill you do you agree or disagree agree okay that's what i think of every time
polar opposite okay now he's polar opposite we don't we literally don't have land predators and
no rabies no rabies i'm scared of rabies people make fun of each other here barely barely any
spiders and like not a ton of poisonous things like it's nothing can really mess with you what
is the most dangerous thing on maui i wouldn't even say it's most dangerous the most gnarly
scary centipedes.
Oh, they're not the little like baby
cute ones you catch as a kid. They're
demonic, spiritual warfare based
centipedes that are probably at their biggest
two inches wide, maybe seven
inches long. No, one and a half.
Would you not say at least one and a half inch thick on the
two inches wide is pretty big.
Girth.
Yeah.
Surcumference. That's about two inches. is pretty big girth yeah circumference circumference radius that's about two inches one and a half that looks like one and a half would you agree or disagree that's at least
three i mean you're saying that's a huge centipede but we've seen them you've seen them but yeah
yeah so the dude these centipedes when i say gnarly i mean like they're armored like armadillos
you cut them in half with a flathead shovel or scissors. Immediately, you just made two centipedes.
And they bite you, and it's the worst sting you can get.
What?
If it stings you in your heart area, you probably will go into cardiac arrest.
You need to go to the ER.
Can you just stomp them?
Yeah, but just they don't die, and they're so fast.
You've got to really stomp them.
And any time-
I'm getting angry thinking about this.
I've actually seen someone bitten multiple times when they're trying to step on it,
and they don't step on the head, so the head is just popping over and biting it while it's
getting stepped on.
Good for the centipede.
That's crazy.
So gnarly.
Completely smush it.
Cut it in half.
It's also said that when you kill one,
it brings more.
And that we've seen that true.
Like some scent, some pheromone.
Dang, dude.
I know.
I think the scent should send them away.
Like, hey, there's a killer over here.
These are the killers.
Yeah.
These are the killers.
Okay, centipede.
They're the ones that knock.
Yeah.
Okay, hey, if you're watching this, Google. Centipede. They're the ones that knock. Yeah. Okay. Hey,
if you're watching this,
Google Hawaii centipede.
Wait,
if they're listening,
could they Google it also?
Yes.
Yes.
If you're listening,
you can also do this.
I've done this.
The top three or four images is literally like the guy has it on his hand as a pet from
like middle finger down to like elbow.
It's like the most monstrous ones.
Seriously.
Yeah.
This thing that can put you in cardiac arrest.
The guy's just chilling with it.
It's like crocodile hunters.
It's Dundee guy or whatever.
Just,
you know.
Yeah, my movie sounds awesome.
But besides that,
was there anything else that's gnarly?
I don't think so.
Sharks.
I've seen a shark or two.
I've seen a shark or two in my spear fishing days.
Yeah.
You know?
No allergies for Brooke.
That was a huge thing for us.
Really?
Yeah.
Oh, interesting.
Went away.
Incredible. Not like, you mean like grass allergies,
not like gluten allergy.
No, like, yeah, like seasonal allergies.
Just gone, which has been amazing.
Red meat allergy? Did it disappear?
I should try it.
What if it went away?
I think you should.
But the rabies thing is crazy because you think about it too.
We're literally on a speck in the middle.
You know Hawaii is more in the middle of nowhere than anywhere else in the entire world?
Meaning there's more land mass, I mean more water mass,
between here and the next place than anywhere else in the world. What is the closest
place? I think it's like LA
or like Fiji. Does that freak you out
ever? No. That would mess with me.
From up here, you can see like three quarters of the island
visually. Like you can hug it. It's that small. Yeah.
But no, it doesn't freak me out. I love it. No. Yeah, it doesn't.
Because like what if, what if planes were just like
nevermind, we're not going to fly there anymore.
The plane things trip me out because if like, let's say you
fly Maui to Seattle from Maui to Seattle.
You're over land on both sides for a total of 45 seconds.
That freaks Catherine out.
The emergency landing is not a thing.
We talked about this. Let's talk about this.
I didn't think about that.
Were you here for this conversation?
This is when I picked you guys up from the airport.
Catherine was like, I was scared because what if it crashes?
I said, well, you would die.
Fair. I would have said the same I said, well, you would die. That'd be the fair.
I said,
no,
I wouldn't.
No,
I wouldn't.
So here's what I would do.
Tell me if this is a good idea,
bad idea.
I would time,
I would time the fall,
get the door open
and just jump out.
Okay.
Jump out the right time.
You're going like,
I feel like minimum
you're going 250 miles an hour.
Okay.
You've ever seen a plane crash?
I don't ever see a shred of a cell.
Like they're just obliterated.
Any plane crash, you just obliterate. But has anybody ever tried the crash? I don't ever see a shred of a cell. Like they're just obliterated. Any plane crash.
But has anybody ever tried the jump?
Has anybody ever jumped out?
I think I could. And then all you got to do is death diving. It's a thing on YouTube.
Yeah, just or the guy pulls a
sully and he just lands perfect.
See, I wouldn't trust my pilot. I would just
jump out and then you land in,
you come back up and you just swim. I
think I could swim to wherever the wreckage is. And there's some flotation there also maybe i'm wrong but i feel like you get a
thousand miles off of maui shore and then that water is like hypothermic yeah no problem big
big daddy yeah you're swimming so you're yeah i'm swimming i'm moving calories are a thing yeah so
you're we're doing that after this yeah yeah have you seen that meme it's like because you know
women winhoff is like the breathing
guy. There was a meme with like a clip from like
Titanic. It's like only they would have known
about Wim Hof. Yeah.
Their breathing and survive physical health
moments before they front. Yeah,
they're actually healthier for a bit. Yeah.
That is really funny. They're doing just fine. So
I would be fine. I think anybody that came
with me like I could carry Catherine with
I could swim with her on my back. No problem. Okay. So yeah, I think I'll be fine. I think anybody that came with me, like I could carry Catherine with, I could swim with her on my back.
No problem.
Okay.
So yeah,
I think I'll be fine.
So cast away.
He,
he made it.
Yeah,
exactly.
Yeah.
So no,
it's not a true story.
Yes,
it is.
No,
yes,
it is.
No,
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no, how it's 100 okay here's why i'm kidding wait wait wait wait you think the castaways have you
seen it yes just tom hanks at the end it says based on a true story and they show the pictures
see but what are we talking about based on a true story here's why i know it's a true story the real
volleyball versus the movie they said one of the big changes was fedex was called federal express
that's right when it actually crashed yes yes but they didn't change the love and they they forgot
to do that and i don't think it was a volleyball it was like a old basketball or something yeah
yeah it was like well it was old basketball. It was like a old basketball or something. Yeah, it was like old basketball,
like outdoors. Wow. Hey,
you guys just got roasted and
toasted. First thing,
I'm going to show it to you.
I'm going to show it to you. Look what's
highlighted in blue on the top
of Google. Read it out loud. Read it out loud.
Castaway may not be based on a true
story, but it draws
inspiration from real life survival
experiences to create its narrative. Absolutely. I win that one. I don't know, dude. Absolutely.
I win that one. Absolutely. Hey, hey, pull this out right now. Pull this out. I win that one.
Okay. Everyone who thinks that we really believe that Castaway is a true story,
you know, comment below. Now, again, this does, it being a true story. No, no. It being a true story.
It being a true story does not mean that it's so stretched that just one time someone landed a plane in the ocean.
And like, that's like, it can't be that far away.
It has to be like close details.
Yeah.
Well, I don't know.
I think, I mean, FedEx has planes.
So it's basically true.
Guys, I was afraid. Three verse think... I mean, FedEx has planes, so it's basically true. Guys, I was...
Ocean Freight.
Three verse one, I got a little nervous,
but seriously, after you see that,
you see that on the Google thing?
Bro, we're all messing with you.
Do you understand that?
No, I wasn't.
Jake was over there.
You have to watch back the clip.
Okay, second...
Because Jake is like trying so hard
not to like give it away.
Okay.
Bethke's like in his zone, just Googling.
Hold on, hold on. You guys are joking. you literally oh i swear that was a real argument like for man
guys that's not fair that's not fair what about honey i shrunk the kids
classic movie by the way i don't know yeah i don't know. Yeah, I don't know. Do you know, Jeff? I'm pissed.
I'm pissed.
I don't think I've been slower on a moment in a decade.
In a decade.
Oh, my goodness, dude.
But here's the thing.
All that I'm going to stand on is I was still technically right in the moment.
100%.
You were.
Yeah, you were right.
You were right and we were wrong.
You guys were playing a social experiment on me and I didn't budge.
You were playing a social experiment on me and I didn't budge.
Good.
You didn't budge.
That's a man of integrity and a man of honor. Continue.
Third and final interruption. Third and final location. I was like, Hey, this has been fun.
New spot every time. Let's give time in the worst audio possible. So we're in my dressing room,
bathroom. So just a quick tour. The dwell app was like, Hey, can you do a 60 second ad read
and show us a toilet? And I was like, yeah, no problem. So this is where we kind of do our business.
Fun fact, did you notice it?
Rachel's here.
Did you notice three different toilet papers?
Good whistle.
Three different textures and then a little shower.
Ooh, a nice glass door.
Yeah, I'm going to hop in here for the last part.
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I know how to read.
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Back to the episode.
On that same note,
have you ever been to Kauai
and seen where they shot Jurassic Park
and seen the bones and all that stuff?
Yeah, and then Oahu too.
Yeah.
Love that story. Tell. And then Oahu too. Yeah. Yeah.
So I love that story.
Tell me more about that.
Oh, just like the documentary Jurassic Park.
Yeah,
it's good.
Get out of here.
But they shot it.
They did.
It's not a documentary.
I'm catching on.
I'm catching on.
And I've seen the movie.
The second one is a documentary.
And I visited the movie set.
Jeez.
Brad's like,
tell me more about that. Jeez. It was shot on Oahu though. And Kau the movie set. Jeez. Brad's like, tell me more about that.
Jeez.
It was shot on a Wai'u, though.
And Kawhi.
Yeah.
Nailed that.
Let's talk about movies real quick.
Oh, here we go.
Go ahead.
Go ahead.
Just say it, even though it's wrong, and I proved it wrong.
No, I had an epiphany at Guy's Night.
I had an epiphany at Guy's Night.
So, okay.
So, here's the thing.
About movies.
So, I don't think I've ever met two people on farther ends of the spectrum of movies.
Now, TJ does grate me a little because everyone knows
this guy in their life where the guy that
every time you bring up a movie...
You guys are trans on the spectrum.
Exactly. Every time you bring up a movie
and you think it was good, the person goes
kind of this...
Like 6 out of 10, 5 out of 10, 4 out of 10.
That's TJ.
It is not.
To be fair, I will make fun of myself.
I don't think I've ever rated a movie,
the worst movie in history, to me, is an 8.1.
So that's fair.
But we did have an epiphany the other night at Guy's Night
because we had the same argument at a Guy's Night we were doing.
And someone said, hey, TJ, name your top five movies.
And dude, his five are my five.
Okay.
So we're like, we're meeting in the middle let's try to guess them okay um there's absolutely no way you'll even
get one but let's see i think there's absolutely a way we can get one we can get one actually i
think they only name like three i bet one's like a man's man one of us like is like uh saver private
ryan or like no no i'll give you hints one is what what do we need well now yeah yeah that's
true but i didn't i was one. I was just listing them.
I think I got my list.
I'll give you hints to the ones we agreed on.
One is sci-fi.
Are they based off true stories?
I will say,
one is a sci-fi, so try to guess that.
One would be probably one of the most
all-time classic comedies.
And then I think you named one more.
I was like, yeah named one more. Okay.
Action superhero.
Batman.
Dark Knight.
Dumb and Dumber.
I gave you hints.
I practically passed you a note.
The third one.
Sci-fi is the hard one.
I don't think it's hard.
I bet I could even give you a lead actor and you won't get it because he has so many.
Wouldn't you agree? Do you want to bet $5?
Do you want to agree?
Yeah.
I'll bet $5 that you won't get it.
He hasn't done a lot of sci-fi, but let's do it.
He's done like four or five.
Let's do it.
Okay.
So lead actress, Tom Cruise.
Oh, man.
He's got a couple.
He's got a couple at least.
Okay.
I'm going to look at you.
I'm not, this is not me locking my answers in.
I'm just looking at you.
No, no, no, no.
You got to lock it in from the first time you say it.
Fine, minority report.
Yep.
No, no, no.
Based on truth for you.
My man.
How did you guess that?
I'm not going to say.
I don't know.
What's the other one he did with Emily Blunt?
That's phenomenal.
No, Scott.
Tomorrow?
Edge of Tomorrow?
Edge of Tomorrow.
Day After Tomorrow.
Great movie.
Yeah.
Dang, man.
Okay, but I gave you really good hints.
You just didn't stop talking enough for me to guess. Great movie. Dang, man. I gave you really good hints.
You just didn't stop talking enough for me to guess.
There's pre-crime and there's three people
laying in water you'll never guess.
You've never seen it?
No.
Are you going to watch it sometime this week?
I was watching that.
It is phenomenal.
10 out of 10.
I think it's so funny. So like you've never
seen a movie where you're like, I don't want to watch that movie again.
It's hard to remember the worst movies
because they're just like whatever. But yeah, I'm just like
to me, it's the thesis of film.
So to him, it's all about
the details and the directors and all those
things. To me, it's like I am watching this
to just veg, eat some
popcorn and enjoy my life for two hours.
I can enjoy bad movies, like
Con Air starring Nicholas Cage.
That's not a bad movie.
Why do you call it a bad movie?
It's poorly shot, but it's a great movie.
It's so over the top.
Modern movies are so poorly
written that I can't
even get there. Me and you would agree with that, too,
that the modern agenda sneaking into
movies pisses me off.
Edit that out, Titus.
Just let the movie be the movie,
but try to match the cultural
moment. But they've also kind of...
You don't make a movie like Dumb and Dumber anymore.
It doesn't exist. The mid-budget...
Mid-range rom-coms and mid-range comedies
are gone. Dumb, funny, just entertained,
entertainer, gone. And it's sad.
Really, just movies in general are sad, because it's just like, yeah, just superhero movies and then a few other thrown in there. But I just entertained, entertained are gone. Gone. And it's sad. Really just movies in general are sad because it's just,
it's just like, yeah,
it's just superhero movies
and then a few other
thrown in there.
But I just saw
the new Hunger Games,
10 out of 10.
I heard that.
See, now are you going
to go see it?
No.
You can't.
Okay.
I've not seen it,
so I don't know.
I think it's better
than the first ones.
Are you a picky
within your 8.1 to 10?
No.
They're all 10 out of 10.
10 out of 10.
If I walk out and I enjoyed it with no blips during the movie that I didn't like, it's
a 10.
Dude, that's too easy.
It's hard to what?
It's hard for me to go to a theater and not enjoy it because that is more of an experience.
And honestly, I don't even go for the movie.
I go for the popcorn and the sunflower oil.
Sunflower oil.
I will say it is.
It is harder here because like Maui's time travels, their movies are back in time.
Their theaters are back in time.
Oh dude.
They're a little grungy.
Yeah.
You guys are like rocket shipping in your chair.
The vibration.
Dude,
we are literally five D.
If they're just not sticky,
it's like a win.
This is no joke.
The last three times we've gone sticky chair on one.
Yeah.
The one before that,
the air conditioning was dripping cold water on my head.
Gosh, I can't imagine.
When you stayed?
10 out of 10.
There's no other option. This is the best theater
on the island.
Where is the chair sticky at?
I've seen a sticky floor.
Kind of like the armrest with the leather that kind of gets
gooey from skin.
Just a little humid in the room.
I've probably been
to 10 movies
at that theater
where the AC's broke
so you just sweat
your balls off
it's not ideal
it's not ideal
too late
I've definitely
become a home
movie watcher
yeah we have
a literal projector
and I'm like
this is a better experience
100%
well dude
you have a freaking
90 inch TV
75 but yeah
that thing is huge
it's like Fortnite TV
would you say 75 inches I would say 75 wait you play inch TV. 75. But yeah, yeah, yeah. That thing is huge. It's like Fortnite TV. Would you say 75 inches?
I would say 75.
Wait, you play Fortnite on a 75 inch screen?
Yeah, it's terrible.
Is there any other way to play?
Terrible.
I'm not even trying to mess with you.
Have you ever played on like a 24 inch monitor?
I know that's what you're supposed to do.
And then all the refresh rate and hertz and all that.
Forget refresh rate.
Just like your eyes.
Your eyes don't have to dart across 75 inches.
They just stay in one spot.
So we have like 180 inch projector in the house.
And I play on that last night and I love it. Really? I bet you're so good. You know, I had just stay in one spot. So we have like 180 inch projector in the house and I play on that last night
and I love it.
Really?
You're so good.
You know,
I had 25 kills in one game.
I can't believe
I didn't talk about it.
It's for you.
No,
I'm trying to get this guy
based on it.
It's up.
It's based on a true story.
Yeah.
Is it based on hunger games?
Yeah.
Right.
Quarter quell is a fortnight.
Yes.
Oh man.
That's so fun. All right. Should we end episode one here? a Fortnite. Yes. Oh, man. That's so funny.
All right.
Should we end episode one here?
Just wrap it up?
Yeah.
I thought that was just the intro.
I thought we were getting started, baby.
It goes quick, doesn't it?
Are we doing multiple episodes?
Yeah, we're doing multiple episodes.
Okay.
See you guys next week.
That was the intro for Monday.
Do you want to do reviews?
Sure.
Can you still read them?
Yeah.
You guys take five.
Sweet. I want to be a part of the reviews. Okay. Okay. I'm back. I'm back. We'll pull them up. I don't to do reviews? Sure. Can you still read them? Hey, you guys take five. Sweet.
I want to be a part of the reviews.
Okay, I'm back.
I'm back.
We'll pull them up.
I don't have them ready right now.
You guys iTunes reviews?
Okay, here's a question for you guys.
What's the one review
or comment on the internet
that just has rubbed you
the wrong way for all of time?
Or have you asked this question before?
We've kind of talked about it,
but I would like to hear yours.
Can we talk about next episode?
Okay, yeah.
Because I would love to hear yours. And I think that we could have a long conversation about that. Okay, mine's real quick. And I think kind of talked about it, but I would like to hear yours. Can we talk about next episode? Because I would love to hear yours. And I think that we
could have a long conversation about that.
Mine's real quick, and I think I've talked about it on the podcast before,
but when I left, before I was working with Trey,
I was working for a sports
trickshot YouTuber. We had a channel, Jake and Josh.
I left that channel to go do some other stuff.
And when I left, probably some 11-year-old
boy commented and said,
what was it? No offense.
No offense, Jake, but you are
and then just called me the R word.
It was an all-time favorite
comment. But no offense. It was such a lead-in.
No offense, though. It was great.
There's a southern version of that.
Bless their heart. I'll pray for you.
I'll pray for you. Probably one of my favorite comments.
Isaac Olson says,
this podcast is pure gold, five-star review. I'm a long-time
listener to Ghost Runners podcast
I'm finally getting
around to writing
a review
and boy
let me tell you
these guys deserve
all the praise
the joy they bring
to their podcast
is ecstatic
you will not regret
listening to their
fun stories
and laughing along
with them
this podcast
is golden
I would say
this podcast
even slaps harder
than some juicy
baby back ribs
from Good Ranchers
from Good Ranchers
that's right
Ben Spell
what's up
Lincoln Mayo
that's saying something because I love me some meat.
Uh,
point being,
they will always put a smile on your face with their friend,
family friendly environment they've created over these last several years.
So get on your feet and let's give it up for the ghost runners podcast.
Way to go boys.
PS castaways based off a real,
uh,
mine's from Katie,
uh,
says after listening for over a year
My sweet husband and kiddos
Gifted me a Ghostrunners
Patreon subscription
For my 40th birthday
Nice
I feel like it was an investment
For the whole family
Definitely feel like a boomer
But so sweet to laugh out loud
With my kids
We haven't quite convinced
My husband to join
Oh so I guess it's not
For the whole family
Wow
Take back your family
They need some family teams
They need some family teams
Was it Katie?
Familyteams.com
Familyteams.com.
Familyteams.com. Formingmen.
Formingmen.com.
He definitely gets to hear about two guys' lives,
wives, and Brad's children,
and maybe more than he would like.
Thanks for all the content and laughs
from a non-teenage shoe-tying homeschool mom.
What was the third word?
Shoe-ta?
Callback.
Shoe-tying.
So there's a talk story.
In Hawaiian.
Talk story is what they say.
Kansas City version of shoe-tying.
Shoe-tying.
No, it's just
it's a patron
inside joke
little inside nuggy
Catherine was at their
homeschool co-op
could you explain it to us
in detail
yeah
Catherine was at the
homeschool co-op
and she saw some mom
tying like a 14 year old
boy's shoe
yeah yeah
and she's like
no what is going on here
so
anyway
don't homeschool your kids
right guys
yeah
we'll come back for
another episode here.
We'll do some s'mores.
Apparently, Jeff has some pretty spicy takes on candy.
No, I think that you guys have spicy takes on candy.
Every piece of candy is 10 out of 10.
I'm true Norris.
What'd you say?
Every piece of candy is 10 out of 10.
Really?
Yeah.
Anyway, thanks for being here, guys.
We'll see you guys again Wednesday.
Just get rested.
Yeah, anything else?
Yeah, same crew.
See you then.
Love you guys