Ghostrunners - 285 - We Have Two Shake Shacks w/ Jefferson Bethke and Walk in Love (Ep. 285)

Episode Date: December 6, 2023

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We're back with another episode with our friends TJ and Jeff here in Hawaii. I want to say real quick, when I flew to Hawaii, I've seen this before, but it never really like stuck with me like it did this time. You know, you fly to sometimes, you know, international places or tropical places. Hawaii's big on like keeping the agriculture the way it is. You know, you got to fill out the form. But what I noticed in the airport, there's an amnesty bin and I've never really paid much attention to it.

Brad, are you familiar with this? You've seen one of these? No. So it's like on the way in and on the way out. and I've never really paid much attention to it. Brad, are you familiar with this? Have you seen one of these? No. It's like- Sounds awesome. On the way in and on the way out. It's like, hey, if you've got something maybe you shouldn't have.

Yep. You got a banana in there. Throw it in the bin. Is it fruit or flowers or coral? Wait, is banana not allowed? No, it's usually fruit, vegetables, vegetation, like flowers and stuff, and then like coral and stuff. One of the other things on the list though,

so all that's fine. Sure, get it, whatever. It said animals. Yeah. So you could just... You're just leaving with a boar? You could just toss an animal in there. I've always loved you.

You're just like walking by the, you know, the airport band, and you just hear like just rummaging around. Yeah. Like, is a cat in there? Yeah. Or what do we have a ton of up here? What do they call those? They're like squirrels, but longer.

Mongoose. Or is it mongoose? Yeah up here? They're like squirrels but longer. Mongoose. Toss one of those in the bin. I saw a mongoose golfing yesterday. Mongoose. Do you know the story of the mongoose? Why they brought mongoose? No.

It's because they did it to get rid of the rat problem. And now there's a mongoose problem. Yeah, but guess what? What? Mongoose don't hunt at night and rats are nocturnal. Yes, I knew that. I knew that. Yeah, yeah. There's like four or five really bad moves

from the last 150 years that are like ruining Hawaii. So eucalyptus trees shouldn't have ever been brought here. Deer shouldn't have ever been brought here. Mongoose shouldn't have ever been brought here. And there's three really serious and basic fish.

They literally brought the mongoose to get rid of the rat problem. They brought the mongoose to get rid of the rat problem. The mongoose are hurt. But they are asleep and awake at different times so they never even make contact.

Okay, so guys, if you're listening to this and you're traveling to Maui, don't bring it. Get rid of the Mongoose. Yeah. Let's put in the amnesty bins. It might fight you a little bit,

but just shove it down in there. I just, it was the bottom. It'll have plenty. Yeah. I was like, they're getting bigger in there. It's this bin full of animals and food.

One animal has got to come out of it. It's been breeding in there. Yeah. How often do they dump the amnesty bin? Yeah. Not often. I don't think like what's been in there. Yeah. A couple of cats, a couple of bananas, a couple of cats, come out of it. It's been breeding in there. How often do they dump the amnesty bin? Not often, I don't think. Like what's been in there? A couple cats, a couple bananas.

A couple cats, a lot of crops. Watch out. It's coming for you. You got to fill out the form when you come in. You got to fill out the form when you land. I didn't fill it out and no one said boo. Yeah, because it's one of those things where it's like for everyone. Rachel probably did it, but it's also one of those things

where the airports just kind of do the, like, we passed it out, so we don't, like, you know what I mean? Because I didn't know TJ's address, so I just put Waldorf

for where I was staying. I don't think we have a Waldorf, do we? Yeah, we do, because Trey said he was staying there. Oh, yeah,

they own, like, the Grand White Light, I think. Yeah, yeah. That's funny. Well,

let's get into another episode here. Let's rock it. Go Mongas. Uh, uh, oh, ooh, I,

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anyways, they'll figure it out. Yeah, they figure it out. Do you guys miss Chipotle? Speaking of me, Chick-fil-A, things like that. You just hit one of my heartstrings that I don't think anyone has ever hit okay let's let's talk about the things we miss most from the mainland in and out chipotle are my two they're just like man chick-fil-a just came here it's not very it doesn't do very well maui or honolulu maui and oahu but yeah dude chipotle like a good or like a red robin like just chains man we just want to run we're going Red Robin number three. I do Olive Garden. Olive Garden. Olive Garden and breadsticks.

I used to work at Olive Garden, man. It didn't make me sick of it. It made me like it more. Okay. You make me like it more. That's when you know it's a good establishment. I know how the sausage gets made. And I like it.

And I like it. That's so funny. But I would say it sounds hilarious, but we don't have just those mid-range chains. Chilies? Yeah. Dude. I love chilies. We went to Texas mid-range chains. Chili's? Yeah. Dude. I love Chili's. We went to Texas Roadhouse the night before we left for Hawaii.

Yes. Because Ghosties gave us a gift card, and I was like, can we please go? And Catherine was like, really? Out of all the places you want to go to Texas Roadhouse, we went? Unbelievable. 10 out of 10. It was so much like every movie. Yes.

10 out of 10. I will say, yes, yes. We just got Raising Cane's, and that is a huge hit to me. Oh, you're fine then. Mine are Shake Shack. Oh, yeah. Well, that's obvious. I love Shake Shack. That's my king. huge hit to me. Oh, you're fine then. Mine are Shake Shack. Oh, yeah. Well, that's obvious. I love Shake Shack.

That's my king. That's the king. Oh, that's obvious. Don't say the obvious one. That's the king. Shake Shack and then Chipotle would be second. But I think what we miss here is the option to just pick somewhere easy like that. The option to have options.

Yes. Because it's like you're going to- Because you don't have very many fast food. You have Panda, and that's it. And no one does drive-thru here either. So with little kids, you're struggling to find a drive-thru for anything. That's a bummer. Unless it's literally like McDonald's or Burger King.

Shake Shack, number one. I think I dedicated three chapters of my last book to Shake Shack. Haven't any of you read it? I literally spent like two chapters. Yeah, totally. Oh, yeah. Just brush up on the way back here. Chipotle-oli.

That's what I love. I spent two chapters on Danny Meyer, the founder and CEO. He used to be CEO. We have Shake Shack now in Kansas City. We have two of them. And getting them in Kansas City. Just how casually you say that. I think there's two.

There's at least two of them. The two broke my spirit. The two broke my spirit. The two broke my spirit. Which one do I want to go to? The one 10 minutes away or the one 12 minutes away? There's the one by the Chipotle and there's the other one by the In-N-Out.

Yeah, gosh. That one's got the same Red Robin loop. It's a Red Robin parking lot. Do you guys go to the beach after you eat it? No. How many degrees is it outside? Do you get barreled?

Barreled? I don't get barreled either. And then I was like, so good. If you don't get that reference sorry hot take or not hot take shake shack by far hot as the best smash burger in the entire nation no dude 100 because once you have one in your city like we do we have two of them uh tell me who's better which one's better no tell me what change even comes close culvers culvers is great thank you not in the same room

culvers is a competitor but like a little brother competitor. Are you talking about Smash Burgers only? Smash Burgers only. Yeah, I think Culver's. That clarification didn't make sense. Well, I didn't know if it was like Burgers. Because I really like Five Guys. No, Five Guys is garbage.

What? Yeah, here's why. I despise any burger that's bigger than a quarter of an inch. And Smash Burger. Two, that philosophy that they do on purpose of over dumping the fries in the bag just pisses me off. Why? It's awesome.

They're not loose in your hands. No, trash. It's just a large, nasty burger. Okay. I'm a simple man. Okay. I'm a simple man with simple taste. Yeah, you like flowers shake shack is absolutely yes shake

shake is absolutely number one in and out comes close but does not get to number one and then I would say Culver's is three anything nothing else is in the conversation about red Robin red Robin I mean red Robin's got some pretty good burger. I do agree the whiskey river barbecue burger dude, but like what a burger not even in the conversation. Oh

man, I like what a burger he's like the conversation. Oh, man. I like Whataburger. Uh-uh. These taste like fast food. I don't like Five Guys. No, they don't. No, they don't. I like Shake Shack because they have made the burger. They put all the ingredients on it for you.

In Five Guys, you're like, I guess I'll take this and this and this. And I want the people who created it to make it the way that it's supposed to be made. Yep. Okay. I like the recipe pre-made. I don't know that it's supposed to be made. Yep. Okay. I like the recipe pre-made. I don't know, man. Five Guys is my number one. You never take off anything from Shake Shack's burgers?

Nope. Me neither. Shake Shack burger? The smoked Shake Shack burger. Double? We're done. We're done. Double?

You just said you don't like too much meat. Yeah, quarter inch. It's only two quarter inches. Now we're at a half inch, and now they're crispy and thin edges. Here's the thing. Here's the thing. I don't sub anything.

Double Shake Shack burger, cheese fries, hit your boy with a specialty shake that they got in season. I'm out of there. I'm out of there. I'll just say, have you ever lived in a city with a shake shack? Cause once you do, no, or two of them for us, bro, do you realize you would understand it? No, no, it's not even,

I've probably had it over a hundred times in 2023, maybe 150, maybe 200. Okay. It's the go-to when I'm done. I try to eat it over 100 times in 2023. Maybe 150. Maybe 200. Okay. It's the go-to when I'm doing it. I try to eat it five to eight times when I travel. And I travel for like three days at a time. It is nice when you get in airports that have a Shake Shack in them. I think Charlotte has one.

Denver. Yeah. Charlotte. Yeah. DFW. I used to have it mapped and plotted. But yeah, there's at least like five significant major airports that have it. I do like Shake Shack.

I haven't had a burger since like 2018. It seems. I feel like you're losing. Yeah. The red meat allergy guy is on my team. I do like Shake Shack. I haven't had a burger since like 2018. It seems, I feel like you're losing, yeah, the red meat allergy guys on my team. He loves their chicken sandwich though. Yeah, no, I get it. Yeah, the chicken's great. I do, you have to agree with this, no matter what you think.

You have to. No matter what you think. Are you ready? Yeah, I'm ready. No matter what you think, Shake Shack's vibes are a tiny bit elevated beyond anything else in that domain. Meaning they kind of try to vibe it out with like some beers, some cool interior design. It's just not a slimy, nasty fast food chain. Agree. Go ahead. You have to, you have to. Oh, I agree. Yeah. You can't disagree with that,

which I like. I like it. It feels like I'm bougie. See, but I'm, I'm yeah, you're PNW and then you're Maui. You're bougie. I'm just a good old boy from the Midwest, from Kansas. You go to Culver's and it is the Chick-fil-A of burger places. It is very good. It's very clean. There's a million workers there. Oh, it's wonderful. It's very similar to Shake Shack Burger.

Except what? The Butter Burger is what they call it? Butter Burger. It's very good, but not as good. It's good. I'm going to give it credit. I think the customer experience at Culver's is better than Shake Shack. Who cares about customer experience?

You just said fives. Fives are customer experience. No, no. No, fives. Fives are customer experience. No, no. No, fives. It's just a feature way of saying it. Fives are like paint color and like bench seating and like, do they have beer?

And like logo. Do they have micro-brews? Do they have micro-brews? San Serif. They have just like a flat wood to sit on. Like reclaimed wood. It's recycled bowling alley wood. Who cares?

Who pays attention? But then you got Culver's, which is a nice cushion seat. Sit there. Stay a while. Fair. Okay, let us know in the chat. Frozen custard.

You don't have a chat, but let us know wherever you guys talk. We got chat. We got plenty of chat. Hey, thanks for the bits. Hey, I see that. What's up, chat? What's up, chat?

Thanks for the sub. I see that hand. Yeah, yeah, yeah. S'mores of candy? One. This guy. Hey, who's podcast? Who's podcast?

Our podcast, dude. My podcast. Oh, go ahead, Jake. I was going to say, I was going to talk about Shake Shack more, but maybe I maybe you just close the chapter.

Do you get the last word and I won't argue it. You get the last word. Oh, you won't argue it. Are you prepared? Are you so unless it's a ridiculous ridiculous

thing? No, I won't be interested to see what you say about this. I think Shake Shack is the portion sizes of their liquids are ridiculous.

You get a soft drink from there. It's an eight ounce cup. You get a soft drink from there, and it's an eight-ounce cup. You get a milkshake from there for $6, also eight ounces. Fair. Fair. That's a strong take. I would actually agree with that take. The water cups are literally like the condiment cup. Yeah, just spit in my mouth next time.

The water cups are literally where you put your ketchup. Just go wash your hands in the bathroom. Just lick your hands afterwards. You'll get more water that way. But their water does come out of a beer tap, which is kind of cool. Vibes. You're a big beer guy? Vibes.

Not really. Never drink a drop. I like seeing other people drink. That's how cool it is. It's really cool to see my eight-year-old get in a beer tap. Learn how to use it. Yes. All right.

Well, that's been burgers. As Jeff requested, should we do some shores? I think we should. We alluded to it last week. But it's called S'mores? Yeah, Mount Rush S'mores. What a great idea for a segment. Yeah, you nickname it, though. That's awesome. I love that. Do you do it

on Walkin' Love Podcast? Oh, we do, yeah. Every Monday morning? We do it occasionally. But your podcast is every Monday morning? Every Monday morning, every monday morning okay great do you want me to read a review or we'll do that later yeah okay what's the rush more we're doing wait can you get a link to sunny morrow from the walk and love podcast yeah i think so in walk and love.com yeah uh where you now sell shirts all year all the time that you can buy right now okay in stock and ready to ship okay i needed that it's cheaper than sponsored by good ship. It's cheaper than New Flora. It's cheaper than New Flora. Yeah.

We're out here attacking. We're literally in the New Flora headquarters. No, all friends. No competition. I've heard that about you and I really appreciate that. I want everyone to win. I think that's really cool.

I want everyone to be able to build a pickleball court in their yard. Yeah. We get it. We get it. Okay. Too much. Too much. If Sonny Morrow pops off, are you going to do a pickleball court in the backyard?

He's seen my backyard. You couldn't fit like one paddle. You couldn't fit a ping pong ball at the table. Stop it. Wait. Speaking of pickleball courts, Rachel and i were driving around yesterday hawaii and we didn't have much of a gymnast like let's just drive around we'll find food trucks find whatever i was like you know what how about i take you by tj and brooks house that'd be kind of fun

maybe you just like randomly drove by their house yeah turns out then i took tj no it's our rental well they're old yeah yeah that was our old street we lived across the street from that house oh fun what's that like yeah uh but yeah we drove by and they had a pickleball court in the cul-de-sac. And I was like, that's so fun. Did you know that? I didn't know that. Yeah, it was awesome. We used to run that street. Someone's painting a pickleball court in the dry one.

In the end of the cul-de-sac? Yeah, in the... Are you putting a T on the end of that? Cold. Cold. Cold. Cold. You say the D even later.

It's not cold. It's cold. Yeah. I thought I heard a T. You might have. I bet it's bone will because they play pickleball. So it's the house he used to live in. I bet they spray painted that.

Permanent lines. It looks like tapes down. There's no way. I should say permanent, but like taped. There's no. Yeah. Anyway, it turns out. It was like, dude, it was pretty fun. Didn should say permanent, but like taped. There's no, yeah. Anyway, it turns out I texted TJ. I was like, dude, it was pretty fun.

Didn't see you outside today, but drove by your old house. He went to the rental. TJ's like, what are you talking about? I'm like, what? That's amazing. That's amazing. I'm outside looking for the pickleball court in my street. I'm like, oh.

Sure. All I see is grunge sponge over here. That's amazing. Man. All right. So s'mores. We're doing, yeah, the s'mores of candy. S'mores of candy. TJ, what are the rules? You guys have different rules than we do. Man. All right. So, uh, s'mores we're doing, uh, yeah, the s'mores of candy. S'mores of candy.

Um, TJ. Okay. What are the rules? You guys have different rules than we do. Yeah. So it's, it's a snake draft. Like, so one person at a time. Am I supposed to know what that means?

You don't know snake draft? Okay. So you can't do all four at once. In the movie Castaway, they talk about snake draft. Yeah. Snake draft based off a real story. Callback. Yeah.

Better listen to every episode or else you don't get it. Uh, they don't have snake drafts in Maui. Oh, that's right. That's right. No rapiers. They put them in the end of season. So we get to add one at a time. So yeah, it's a draft.

You can't choose the same as anybody else. Oh. Yeah, it's a draft. Oh. So it's a snake and a draft. You got it. You got to take notes of what people have picked. Okay, TJ first?

Yeah, I'll take a note. And we'll go this way. And then snake meaning that Jake will go and then Jake will go in. I get the snake. I get it. Start it. Who goes? Who goes? I've never played one ounce of any fantasy sport.

Too busy drinking beer. Killing hogs, working on my flowers. Eating Shake Shack. Let's have TJ go first. I'm going to keep my hot takes for the last two, but go. My number one pick, Reese's Peanut Butter Cups. That's a great one. Great pick.

Hands down the number one at all times in season and out of season. Wait, are you already making your pick? Yeah, can I? Well, let's review the Reese's a little bit. We don't crank, okay? Reese's Peanut Butter Cups?

Good. Paydays. Okay. Ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba, ba. This has been a second short. Two in a pack? Or the ones that are the small ones?

I would actually pick Reese's Peanut Butter Cup in darks. Oh. Oh, that's ones? I would actually pick Reese's peanut butter cup in darks. Oh, that's not what I was hoping. I didn't even know that was a thing. That would be my top choice. They thin them out and then they go dark chocolate. You wouldn't go Easter?

Dude, yes. I was going to say the Easter egg ones are shaped like a bunny egg. They're definitely shaped like an egg. The Halloween is the pumpkin. They don't have bunnies? Christmas tree? They have bunny ones. No, they don definitely shaped like an egg. The Halloween is the pumpkin. They don't have bunnies? Christmas tree? They have bunny ones.

No, they don't. Stop it. They definitely have bunny ones, but I don't think that's the main one. That's not the major one. Jeff's trying to find a middle ground. No, they've had them. I'm letting you know. I will say, I don't tend to like any artificial milk chocolate.

So dark chocolate is a solid. I go dark thin Reese's. Can we get that specific? Is it about the ratio then? Yeah. Do you want to get that specific? I chocolate. I go dark, dark, thin Reese's. Wow. Can we get that specific? Is it about the ratio then? Yeah. Do you want to get that specific? I do. I do.

I still, no one can go in Reese's category. Yeah. So it doesn't matter about specificity. Okay. So that would be my actual, it took a good run off the board, but chose a less popular version of it.

It's going to get a lot of votes. Yeah. What is it? I just wanted the dark, thin, dark, thin. Do you guys put this anywhere where people vote?

Yeah. So are they voting on my catalog? Yes. Okay. Yeah. So who has the best i'm gonna i'm getting all the dark i know what i'm gonna say i'm gonna lose but still yeah i stand by my opinions the reason this is a topic is because we all went trick-or-treating

a bunch of us together and we went back to a friend's house and jeff started rattling off candy that no one liked in the room i was like oh don't you guys love this and then we're like they're like my kid doesn't even like that yeah that's a good strategy yes uh can i go yet yes please uh i don't need to get specific with all the dark stuff but i would agree on almost everything i'll say is dark but i'm just gonna go with regular classic in season out of season best candy to me snickers oh that's an easy one that's good i'm saving my hot takes solid choice i'm saving my hot started strong yeah yeah no no that's that's that's, that's not disagreeable.

That's not disagreeable. We'll, we'll get into that. I'm waiting. I'm waiting for it. Here's the thing. I want, I don't like almost anything gummy and sour. Okay.

I'll eat it. Yeah. But I'm a, I'm a chocolate nut caramel. What else? I might be in agreement with new get that they call like the white stuff. I don't think it's nugget. It's like new.

Yeah. So I kind of like anything in that realms. Okay. Yeah. My first one, I'm going to take the whole category. I'm not going to be like TJ and just thin in on one dark chocolate. I'm going to say

M&M's. Just the whole gamut. Well, no, you can't take the spectrum. There's so many good M&M's. Here's the thing. All the M's? Here's a qualification. I think I want them. No one else can take other M&M's, but you have to be specific about what M&M's. I would say there are people who don't eat regular M&M's No one else can take other M&Ms, but you have to be specific about what I would say. There are people who don't eat regular M&Ms that love.

So be specific flavors of M&Ms. So there are specific one, but no one else can say any M&M. Why are you making the rules? I'm just kidding. Your podcast, my barn. That's right.

Podcast, my barn, baby. I love peanut butter. M&M. The best. Okay. That's fine.

That's fine. Give me some. That's what I would do. Man, I love them all. I love them all. Eminem. Okay, that's fine. That's what I love them all. I love them all. Give me a three quick order. Yeah, would be peanut butter, regular, regular, regular, down, peanut butter

is a sleeper. Peanut butter is a sleeper. That's what I said. That's what I said. That was a peanut peanut butter. Peanut butter. I like peanut. I love peanut. Crispy pretzel minis. Fine, fine, fine, good fire. They took Christmas away Crispy? Pretzel? Minis? Fine, fine. Crispy's good. Fire. Did you know those minis, they took crispy away for a decade. Did you know that? Out of production

they brought it back. They call it cookie now, don't they? Have you ever had pretzel? Yeah, pretzel's good. Have you ever had caramel? No. Caramel bad. Caramel's too chewy. They make coffee not good and I like coffee. Yeah. Peanut butter's the best. Peanut butter is the best. The Christmas mint ones are good. FYI, Jeff, I got to TJ's house yesterday and he had

peanut butter M&M's in the guest room. And minis. Did you see that? No. Did you know? Yeah, they're peanut butter minis now. I texted him and asked him what kind of snacks he likes. That's so fun. Thank you. You're welcome. All right. I'm going to go Sour Patch Kids. Good. I think probably 1-1 when it comes to the gummy sour category.

No. It's as good as it gets. I feel like it's a little bit of a misnomer problem they don't taste very sour to me okay sour patch kids not sour i don't like that tastes very sour like a warhead sour sour patch kid just tastes like a gummy i agree or disagree i said warheads used to be like the most intense thing like you ever put your mouth so i still think they are you don't stop it oh no have you tried them recently bro the cheeks pucker i don't know man i miss. I miss that feeling. Our kids love it. It was like a badge of honor, though, to eat a warhead.

It was like you get past the sour. Now it's like I could do them all day. I feel like the one chip has replaced that culturally. Like spiciness? You ever done it? It's literally just called the one chip challenge now. I don't like pepper. I'm horrible. We went to that steakhouse one time after Integrated and Jeff could not get over how spicy something was i tried i was like

this is one out of ten one out of ten a point five yeah here's what i always tell people about that it's not even that i'm weak it's that if you had my palate you would feel how i felt does that make sense you think yeah it's biological difference. Okay. Fair enough. My second pick, snake draft, is going to be going to be Kit Kat. That is trash. There is something

that is bad. That's one of the worst candies in history. Would you agree? That's one of the worst candies in history. The little wafer situation. Dude, no.

There's something in the Kit Kat chocolate. I know they're all coming from the same place, but tell you what, the chocolate in the Kit Kat just tastes better. No.

It's better than just straight up Hershey's. It's better than what's around a Snickers. It's better than what's around a Milky Way. The Kit Kat chocolate is the best chocolate money could buy in a package. Wait for situation. It's just bad. I've never once reached for the Kit Kat first, but every time I have it, I'll say this. I enjoyed

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All right. All right. My next one is going to be one that you can, you can enjoy string cheese style or just bite right into it. Oh,

I know what's coming with a T Twizzler pull and peel baby. Yeah, it's got to be the pull away. Gross. Not the pull aways. Dude,

they're so good. The regular ones are kind of really regular ones are plasticky, but pull aways are amazing. Pull and peel. Pull and peels are nuts. They're like shiny ones are gross. Yeah.

Strawberry versus cherry. You don't think there's a distinction between those two? Well, there's a distinction, but I think they're both gross. Really? Two different flavors. Strawberry versus cherry. Yeah. Whatever the one that Pull-N-Peel is, it's amazing.

It's good. Yeah. Oh, so good. So that's my second pick. Am I allowed to go yet? Yeah. Is this one of your hot takes? No, not yet.

Okay. I don't think so. This one I actually exclusively only eat in movie theaters. I don't know why. Okay. Can you maybe guess because it's a smart? No. I'll go chocolate caramel is all it is.

It's all it is. I don't know. Yellow box. Oh, Milk Duds. Dude. Milk Duds are classic. Terrible choice. I love Milk Duds.

I do. They do. They're so good. Terrible. Terrible choice. Milk Duds are not good. No, they are. Oh, man.

Guys, it's going to get spicy here in a second. I wish I had five presidents on the mountain because I got three left that are good. We'll do honorable mentions at the end. Milk duds are great if you don't want to swallow it and you just want them stuck in your molars. That's a great candy. As someone who's struggled not eating too much,

it's great because then you get more later. Yes, use the incisors for a change. I think the only place they sell them now is movies. They don't sell them in the grocery store anymore. They're so bad. For whatever reason, Catherine's mom always has a box of Milk Duds in her purse. It's kind of like an old school. I would say most of my candies are old school.

It feels like an old school candy. Not retro, but... Gene Short's video, City Life vs versus Country Life, and I was the country guy, and I just stuck Milk Duds in my mouth the entire time while we recorded. They're very malleable. It was a great experience.

All right, my next pick, Sour Punch Bites. Sour Punch Bites. The actual best. As opposed to the straws? Sour Candy. As opposed to the straws? As opposed to the straws. Okay.

Same taste. You guys know what that is, right? It's those, the straws were really famous as a kid that came in those little plastic trays. Straws were great. Came in the plastic trays. The bites are a little bit chewier and a little bit thicker. You'd recognize that.

That's a famous candy. That's a famous candy. I got a bunch of bags. They're like little rigatonies. Yeah. Yeah. Rigatone. Okay.

Do I go? Snake trap. Snake trap. Oh, I get two. Oh, yeah. I wasn't ready. Oh, yes. Oh, man.

Shoot. I was not ready. I just thought of one. I was just not ready for the snake trap. I will say, think about this. I wasn't ready. Oh, yes. Oh, man. Shoot. I was not ready. I just thought of one. I was not ready for the snake trap. I will say, think about this while I talk about this. You do take sour punch bites every single time you go to the airport. Dude, he literally- Yeah.

You have a list. This guy has sour punch bites on his self, on his person at all times. This is a new one. It was $99 at Costco. We bought a bag, but the Lindt, Lindor chocolate. The little balls. That's pretty Maui of you. Oh, man.

$9.99 at Costco. That's the bougie side of me. That's pretty good prices. That's a great price. They're so shiny and nice looking. The assorted pack, because it's got a little bit of caramel. It's got some milk chocolate. It's got some dark chocolate, but that chocolate is so smooth and creamy.

Best there is. Yeah, we had some of those last night when Jeff wasn't invited and it was awesome. Guys! Thanks for inviting me down the mountain, baby. Lint chocolate assorted pack is what I want to write.

Assorted pack, yeah. Okay. All right. That's a good answer. I didn't think this one was a hot take until literally at Halloween everyone just dumped on me, okay? Can't wait for it. I don't think it's that bad and I'm going to explain why. I think you think it's was a hot take until literally at Halloween, everyone just dumped on me. Okay.

Can't wait for it. I don't think it's that bad. And I'm going to explain why I think you think it's bad because you don't know how to eat it. But my third one is like a sunflower seed or something. Yeah. Close. My third one is whoppers.

Dude, I love whoppers. Thank you. Now tell me, yes. Here is the, I thought that was a very normal candy to say. A lot of people dislike whoppers. Let me tell you. So there's two ways to eat a Whopper. If you are in the first group, this is why you think it's bad and you're doing it improperly.

Whopper, Whopper, Whopper. If you put it in your mouth and you chew on it immediately, you are eating chalk. You are eating chalk and you will dislike this candy and you are living in sin. Number two, the right way to eat it is to suck on them. And there's something about the dissolving nature of those balls in your cheek. This is amazing. It's amazing.

Talk a little more about that. The balls in the cheek? Let me ask you this. Agree or disagree, though, Brad? Dude, so good. I like them both. That's so terrible. Oh, you chew on them hard?

Sure. Wow. My mom, every year, that was like our gift to her. Her stocking was like one of those like and do the come on your stories for his last two picks have been about your mom and your mother and you're saying there's no wisdom in old age and i claimed that my teachers are old school are you gonna say jake uh i just your is it your third pick could take on the the qualities of chalk yeah if improperly

engaged with the person's fault, not the candy's fault. Properly engaged with. Yes, which is the person's fault, not the candy's fault. Okay. Brad? Dude, what's crazy is I was thinking about

for my next two picks, saying Milk Duds and or Whopper. Gosh. And here's a strong argument. I can't trust you so hard. I can't trust you. I'm sorry. Here's a legit strong argument for this candy.

Are you ready? Yes. There's not many candies that after a quarter of the portion of the box or the bag, you're not sick, right? I would say whoppers aren't endless. They're kind of, they're kind of, well, you can push that carton and not feel sick to the end. I feel like I got, I got that carton. Yeah. I got hate for my kick up it because of the wafer, right? What's inside of a whopper. It's a malt ball. Yeah, it's exactly. He nailed it. I wasn't ready with the word, but this man defended me. And that is exactly what the box says.

This is going exactly the opposite of how I thought it would go. You're like, oh, Brad will just make fun of Jeff the whole time. Thank you, my man. I'm being honest. I'm not going to just hate on people. I don't think you're going to pick four and five,

but we'll get there. What's your next one? My next one, I really do like chocolate stuff the most, but I also love a lot of these. Everlasting Gobstopper is my next pick. What's the difference between non-eternal Gobstoppers? They're all everlasting now. I really do like chocolate stuff the most, but I also love a lot of these everlasting gobstoppers. My next pick. Oh, what's the difference between like Wonka non-eternal gobstoppers?

They're all everlasting now. Okay. Yeah. Is that the huge white ones that you like? No, no, no. Well,

the jawbreaker. Yes. Jawbreaker. Gobstoppers, the small ones. Yeah. The Willy Wonka. Yeah.

Come in the yellow box. Yes. Love those. And like they get, they change colors as you feel a little plain to me. You don't think they feel a little plain? No way, dude.

Cause every, every, uh, flavors different, uh, or every color is different flavor. That's just food dye. It's good, dude. The green and the red are my favorite. That's good. That's good. So those don't keep you busy. Those ones keep you busy. Those are good to like keep you busy. When you do a project, I'm bored. Yeah, you're out working in the yard. Good. Some of the suppers are solid. All right. My last two, I'm bored. Yeah, you're out working in the yard. You're still in the sun. The golf zappers are solid. The golf zappers are solid.

All right. My last two, I'm going to go nerds. Are you dropping your last? Oh, yeah, because snake draft. Snake draft. There's so many

different types of nerds. The rope, the regulars. Let's go straight up, although I do love a good nerd rope. Oh, nerd rope. I agree.

The texture is amazing. Really? I like the nerd gummy cluster ball thing. I don't like the bite version of it yeah i don't like them regular but the clusters are good yeah i mean it's it's all good the the rope was like a i mean a luxury when i was a kid i could not get my parents to buy me a nerd room no way

but like maybe nick maybe trevor's mom yeah maybe they would yeah yeah that was yeah trevor's mom bought me a lot of nerds always um and then last pick nostalgic nostalgic pick. I'm going to go specifically from a movie theater, Bunch O' Crunch. Oh, yeah. Love Bunch O' Crunch. I'll give it to him. Which ones are those? It's just like a crunch bar. It literally is a crunch bar, but they make them in bite-sized pieces.

Little balls. It's the crunchy pieces of like. The chocolate? Oh, yeah. It's literally just chocolate and like waste. I'm going to start looking up candy. All his candies are identical. It's like if Kit Kat was in clusters.

Yeah, I mean, it's all just reformatted and the same stuff but uh but i actually like those a bunch of crutch i got my last pick i like that love it are we gonna pick three or no one pick four this is it all right my last one i'm i'm torn between two but i'm gonna go with the chocolate one because i am a chocolatier okay uh i don't care if it's left or right i'm going for twix oh love me some songs eight out of ten eight out of ten twix is like is like uh is like kit kat on steroids. Not even in the same family. No, it chews way differently.

Exactly, because of the caramel. The caramel makes it. Oh, I don't think steroids do that. They do. Have you ever done them? No. No, I haven't. They're not wafer-based.

That's an actual cookie. It's like a cookie. Okay. Just letting you know. Ball ball. Twix are the only milk chocolate chocolate that I like. I'm not a big milk chocolate guy. Milk chocolate in general is tough.

That's a great pick. Again, I don't consider this one a hot take. Good and plenty. That is like top ten worst picks. Either you like black licorice or you don't. You like black licorice or you don't. So, no.

You guys don't like black licorice. I like it fine, but there are a million candies out there. It's still sugar. It's not bad. It's so much better. It's the weirdest mental game ever because it doesn't taste sweet. It feels healthy. Can I say this? I'm not making it up.

My dad loves good and hot. I got an old soul and an old palate. I got my honorable mention ready too. My last pick is Starburst. Oh, I forgot. Classic? No, pink only.

Red, actually. That's the one I discard. Red over yellow and orange? Are you playing Monopoly Deal over here? 100%. Disc Discord pile! Discord pile! Oh, interesting. Okay. I love Starburst. Red's my favorite. Yeah, red's good.

Red and pink are just way better than the rest. I just won that. I just dominated. You did? Okay. Do you guys think I had the W to get in plenty? No. You lost it. A lot of people dislike Whoppers. A lot of people dislike Whoppers. I think TJ's going to win. All right, let me read them off.

I think TJ's going to win, but then he did the dark thins for the first thing. But see, again. Yes, first thing. That might have been the detrimental thing. We could have picked based on what we know would have won with the audience, but I picked based on my heart. Yeah, we don't pander.

We don't pander. All right, so TJ picked Reese's Peanut Butter Cups, dark thins, Sour Punch Bites, Lint Chocolate Assorted Pack. Yes? See, I don't know if everyone's going to even have to go to Costco. Nine, nine, nine. Oh, it must be nice.

Starburst. Jeff said Snickers, Milk Duds, Whoppers. Oh, God. I said peanut butter, M&Ms, Twizzlers, Pull and Peel, Everlasting Gobstoppers, Twix. Jake said Sour Patch Kids, Kit Kat, Nerds, Buncha Cruncha. Oh, that'd be great. Who's who? After yours, who's pick?uncha Cruncha. That's a tough one. Who, after yours, whose pick are you? Like, who's? Brad's for sure. I'm taking

Jake's. Jake's is my second pick. I don't know, man. I need TJ's. Good and Plenty is such a bad pick. You don't have to eat it. You can eat the other three. I don't, yeah. He's so offended by Good and Plenty. Probably TJ's. Wow. But mine's better.

Honorable mentions. What's your Milky Way out? I love a good Milky Way and it didn't make the list. No. Love it at the golf course. Runts. You guys like run musketeers. Anything but the banana banana.

Yeah. No, I love the banana. Oh, no. Laffy taffy bananas. Very good. In my opinion. Okay. Here's my honorable mention.

Dots. You are the gummies. You are the gummies. Yeah. Dots. Remember the gummies? Remember the gummies? The gummies? I'm bad at this. This is not objective. This is not the truth. Like the resurrection of Jesus.

This ain't bad. I'm bad at this. Dots are like milk duds, but way worse on your teeth. But we're not asking about what's difficult in your mouth. We're asking about what tastes good. Bro, but food absolutely makes a difference how it feels in your mouth when you eat food. what tastes good, bro, but food absolutely makes it makes a difference how it feels in your mouth when you eat. I'm willing to work if it tastes good. Okay,

I'm willing to do a bad pick. Yeah. You got any other favorites teach? No, I think that I think I covered him. He nailed it all. I think future s'mores topic like best things to put in ice cream also goes to Katie here. Butterfinger yes, Butterfinger. I don't really eat on their own, but it's one of the best things to put in a concrete. Heath bar.

Butterfinger. No one ever eats a Heath bar by itself, but it's great. It's a nice topping. Always get it by yourself, Nate. Wow. I do like toffee in general, but it's a little hard. You do? You go out of your way to get a Heath bar? What's the other one that's close? Fifth Avenue. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. The bite-sized ones are good.

That's fun. Fifth Avenue is amazing, which is a close cousin. I will say another sleep, which is a close cousin. I will say another sleeper that is also honorable mention, whatchamacallit. I've never heard anyone even talk about that. Dude, you're like a kid that goes to a 1960s Chicago Cubs baseball game. I will say. I forget what they're called. Hey, Sal, you got a whatchamacallit?

In that voice. Have you tried this new good and bloody candy? And what about the paper? You got a watch in my car? In that voice. Have you tried this new good and plenty candy? And what about the paper? You got a paper for me. The war is over. You guys at least know what you're calling this? Yeah, dude. It's terrible.

No, it's like a rice, crispy, peanut butter, chocolate situation. Oh, man. My dad would love your picks, dude. What do you guys think about Rolos? No. Oh, yeah. Rolos are good. Two milk chocolate.

Two fake. Okay. T chocolate too fake okay taste too fake roll those i like the purple skittles yeah skittles are great skittles are great skittles were almost my last pick yeah i remember in like eighth grade almost like disintegrated my own tongue with sour skittles remember it was just popping them in yeah it's like acid it's literally just citric acid yeah it's like when you eat too much pineapple you're just like yeah i can't feel my tongue. How do you guys feel about Tootsie Rolls?

Honorable mention of mine. My dad just loves candy. They never get street cred, but when you're actually eating one, it's enjoyable. I like Tootsie Rolls. Do you like the risky alternative flavors? The white one is amazing. Yeah, I do like that one. It's the blue one, but it's white inside.

Here's an honorable mention. Big hunk. The mint-flavored Hershey Kisses, like Christmas cookies and cream. Oh, yeah. Oh, the Kisses. Yeah, yeah. It's like... Oh, we got...

There you go. It's... What is it? Like, it's white. It's white and chocolate. Yeah. Yeah. Guys, I redid it.

I redid it. I know you did. Wait, actually, the Hershey's Kisses with caramel in the middle. Those are really good haven't had those not as good as Lindt high school no not as good as Lindt

9.99 at Costco used my Lincoln Bile you guys ever had like really bougie candy I thought I just said 9.99 at Costco I don't know this would count

in the conversation but I will say what do they call it like taffy but what do they call it salt water taffy Estes has some good salt water taffy 10 out of 10 salt water taffy 10 out of's the, what do they call it? Saltwater taffy. Estes has some good saltwater taffy.

10 out of 10, saltwater taffy, 10 out of 10. I could get my 9.99 for a pound. Fill that bag, fill that bag, line the pockets. What would be a bougie candy? I don't know. Like these days, like there's places that sell like, you know, like, like kind of like a, what's his name?

Scott from Integrated that makes those really nice chocolate. I like like 90% dark chocolate. So yeah, like they have, they have those places that are like sell sell coffee and tasty chocolates that are like... That'll get you deep. I can only go to 90. I can't go to 95, but I can go to 90. They're like the size of a quarter, and they cost $15 or something for this little chocolate. No thanks.

I'm like a gummy guy. I would put all gummy. Okay. That was never on the mention. You like fruity stuff. Gummy bears, but the Albanese brand, not the Haribo. They're like that new white bag that's been around for the last couple of years. Oh, really?

I like Haribo. Me too. No, but have you guys had the Albanese brand? No. 100% you have. It's on the up and up. The stock is rising. It's freaking the GameStop.

It's the GameStop stock, you guys. You're going to know this one way better. Is Albanese, is that synonymous with Albanian? I have no no idea it comes from albania the brand is literally called albanese so i don't know you guys have to have seen i know what you're seeing times better than i've never had it ten times better than here about really target it's at walmart all right next time i'm there way softer way chewier the flavors are much more delectable. Jeff definitely owns a minority stake in this. Yeah. You guys ever mess with peach rings? Oh! Oh!

Those are so good. I changed my mouth much more. I changed my mouth much more. I forgot about peach rings. Holy cow! They're so good.

They're so good. They're just the same flavor over and over. Oh, they're peach. It doesn't matter which. It doesn't matter what brand you're getting.

They're all made in the same place. Dreams are made up. I have a funny story. What do you call it when you try to take out money, but there's no money left? Then you're banged. Poverty? Overdraft. I think I was 22. I had my first job.

I went to a gas station. I was at my second job. I got gas, Arnold Palmer, and Pichot rings, and I overdrafted. Worth it. You're like, should have gotten that gas. I definitely should have gotten the Pichot rings. Put the gas back.

That's great. That's why I think of Pichot rings, because they met me in a dark place. Nate, do you have any that you're like, we'll repeat Nate's off camera, because we got the mics, but what are your quick Mount Rushmores?'s uh well i mean i can't whose would you pick you can yeah no oh yeah or if i could have picked it would have been peanut butter m&ms twizzlers pulling peel no i literally was like oh really you were like gagging from

passion they're so gross i'm more of a Red Vines guy. Red Vines? Oh yeah, classic licorice. I would pick Red Vines over Twizzlers. That reminds me of camping. We always had like

a big bucket of licorice. Oh dude, yeah, it came in a bucket. The Red Vines came in a bucket. Speaking of that too, you can get a bunch of them. Or what about

the huge rope of them? Was that Red Vines or like some kind of red licorice? Yeah, the solid rope. Like three feet long. I got expelled from middle school for stealing a bucket of red vines out of someone's locker. That's a wide locker.

Let's just say it was my last strike. What are your other two? Other two, as painful as it is to eat, is Butterfinger. I feel like a lot of people have strong opinions against Butterfinger. Last time I had one was years and years ago and I tried to eat it in my car and I was just like

very crumbly. It's kind of an odd choice, but I totally forgot about it. It was Mike and Ikes. Mike and Ikes. I would agree with that. Not the tropical, the regular. Mike and Ikes are nice. You reminded me by saying good. Mike and Ikes. Mike and Ikes. I would agree with that. Not the tropical, the regular. Mike and Ikes are nice. You reminded me by saying good. Yeah, yeah.

Mike and Ikes. Oh, Mike and Ikes. You seem like a Swedish Fish guy to me. Hard exterior, soft center. No. Too hard. Mike and Ikes? No, no.

Swedish Fish. No, I like the gummy consistency on Swedish Fish. Swedish Fish are good too. That's an honorable mention for me. Okay. Well done, folks. Sour Strips, an honorable mention. It's got the screaming face that's on the target.

Oh, yeah. I know I'm going to win, but that was great. It will be interesting because sometimes you're like, it's going to be close, and then somebody gets 80% of the vote. That'll be me. Maybe. Reese's peanut butter is such a beloved thing by everybody. Fair.

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you know, yeah, he, we do the Friday pickleball thing together. We're using his name, you know, image like this off a lot of Facebook ads right now. So we're a little NIL.

Yeah. He, I mean, not really, he's not a college athlete, but he's like a, pretty much a pro pickleball player. So,

you know, we're kind of using him like, Hey, how do you become pretty much a pro pickleball player. How do you become pretty much a pro pickleball player? He plays in pro qualifiers. He got his flight paid for to play in a tournament one time.

Just getting pretty close. Anyway, we use a lot of Facebook ads with him. We found out this week that Scott's ad is performing extremely well with women 55 to 64. Oh, the cougar-like Scott. Classic Scott.

The cougars-like Scott. Brad grew up with him, so I just needed to tell Brad that. That's amazing. And everyone on the list saying, anyone to BYU. I mean, Cougar Central. Yeah, literally cougars. Literally. Yeah.

You could find a couple of wives. That's right. A couple of cougars. Wow, that's amazing. I mean, between Jeff's candy picks and now Scott's videos, these women are going to be set for a long time. Let's go. Wow.

Yeah, just need you to know that. It's performing very well for older women. Really? Just Scott. I love the idea of just these women. Like maybe a Friday pickleball Scott calendar. Every day is Friday. With the paddle comfortably covering something.

Yeah, baby. That's awesome. Because I mean, obviously Pickleball is just very popular with the older generation. But the Friday Pickleball brand is definitely more like, I don't know, like it's just fun. It's like this fun. Yeah.

A little bit more like whimsical, not taking each other as seriously. It would be funny if Scott's like, I really think we need to get into bags and balls. Calendars. I really think it's calendars. Strategic good place paddle. Prosthetic hips.

Knee braces. There's your Scott update. I needed it. Oh, man. We watched that football game with Scott Yes. There's your Scott update. I needed it. Oh, man. We watched that football game with Scott the other day, and it's just so fun to see him. He gets emotional about everything.

In the sense of angry, excited, passionate? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He didn't cry, but it was like, are you going to cry? At the very end of the game, it was the Chiefs-Eagles game. That was a game. It was a bummer of a game. Jake and I just really know how to

maintain perspective I feel like we're just like that stinks but it's not the end of the world even if we lose in the playoff game we're like well we still have Patrick Mahomes

for 10 years whatever and Scott just thought that this game against the Eagles he literally like dove on the ground and put his face

into the rug when MVS dropped that bomb he dropped to his knees dropped to his stomach he couldn't believe it hit his head on the ground that's amazing that bomb, he dropped to his knees, dropped to his stomach. He couldn't believe it. Hit his head on the ground. That's amazing. I wanted to give a shout out to Ghostie Jennifer Vorple.

Yes, dude. Big Vorp. She Venmo'd me. It was like, hey, here's a little money for you and Rachel. Enjoy Hawaii. I hope it's a better honeymoon than your last one. Going straight to the citation. So thank you and Rachel. Enjoy Hawaii. Hope it's a better honeymoon than your last one. Going straight to the citation.

Thank you, Jennifer. Or with Maui prices, you get a half of a latte, baby. Half of a latte. We got acai bowls earlier. They're like, all right, that'll be... This person's accent was weird. Try it. Try it. It wasn't British, but it was kind of weird.

All right, that'll be $34. No, it wasn't that at all. For two bowls. I was like, what is happening here? If you get alternative milk here, the coffee's nine. It wasn't British, but it was kind of weird. All right, that'll be $34. No, it wasn't that at all. For one bowl? For two bowls. I was like, what is happening here? Dude, coffees, like if you get alternative milk here, the coffee's nine, solid nine if you get alternative milk. Is that like you passive-aggressively being like, please Venmo me $9 for my coffee?

Jennifer Vorn. Yeah, Vorn. I'll take it. I'll take it. Jefferson Bethke, no dash. Jefferson Bethke, no dash. No dash. I'm actually Jefferson Bethke with the dash.

So either way, it's paid off quite a bit. Maybe that's my next business idea. Just squatting on the alternative spellings. Beyonce with a zero. I don't know. Dude, that's like a thing that people did for a while with domains. 100%. Domain squatting.

All the misspellings of like Facebook and all the misspellings of Google. Goggle.com sold for so much money. Well, I was just talking about like, I remember Chris Bosch, the basketball player, said there was literally somebody that had chrisbosch.com as a domain. Well, that's like real squatting, not the misspelling squatting.

But yeah, people just squat. It's illegal. Right, yeah. But it didn't used to be. I don't know, maybe. Wild Wild West back then, maybe. Yeah. You guys have any business tips for us?

Anything that you've... What a lead! That's a great segue. What a lead! I love that. Squand some domains. I think the Venmo thing will really pay off

for some people. We do like doing half-baked ideas. I know it's kind of hard to do off the dome here. I will say this. I do feel like thinking about domains,

there was an era where I had a lot of friends that would buy and sell Facebook pages like 10 years ago and those were very valuable. You could just have the page and then anything you want

to post it to the fans, you can make money off so they'd buy and sell that. Domain buying and selling is strong, a little less significant the fans, you can make money off. So they buy and sell that domain buying and selling a strong little less significant. Now I've like the newest version. So basically what this, what the theme here is, is something you need to get in early on.

Right? Right. I feel like anyone who uses any babies, any babies, any babies was my first tip. My second tip though, is like AI stuff. Anyone who can utilize like a chat GPT situation for an early,

early business integration, I think we'll do really well in the next couple years. Same. Strong. You an AI guy? Same thing, but with a dash. A-I.com. Waiting for it. TJ was telling me on his podcast, and we were talking about it again last night when we hung out without you, Bethy,

that... You guys were looking at different generations and it said Generation Alpha is like, yeah, the 12 year olds and under right now. And the description for generation alpha, like, you know, millennials was like, yeah, they like to start a business, whatever, like generation alpha that said something like work life balance is important to them. No, it didn't 10 year old. And then the second thing was AI is their reality. Yeah. I don't know what that mean? I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means either.

It's just like they can't trust anything. I also disagree with that though, meaning I don't think a 10-year-old is using AI right now. Right. Yeah, 100%. But will it become their reality? Absolutely. Absolutely.

But like right now. Yeah, Generation Alpha born after 2010. Yeah. Yeah, it's basically anyone middle school or younger. So AI is your kid's reality, Jeff. Yeah. Apparently. Better give them a work-life balance.

They need it. They want it. Yeah, do you guys want to explain to everyone, now that we're done with this, everything you have going on? Tell us your ventures. You first? You first, me, you, me, you, me, you, me.

Let's go. Let's do Snake Draft. Let's do Snake Draft. Snake Draft. So one of the things we got going on is we are in the barn upstairs of a women's clothing company that we have fun with some friends of ours, Jess and Joey. You know Joey. Joey's amazing.

They started it. We came in and helped with some finance and investing a couple years ago. What's it called? Women's Clothing Boutique. It's called New Flora. N-E-U and then Flora. It does really well. Women really like it.

You're big into Flora stuff. Yeah. Flora, Fauna, you know, the likes. Snake Draft. I'll go oldest to newest. So over 15 years ago, I wanted to go on a missions trip. So I started selling t-shirts that said walk in love on them. I am still selling them.

What a run. And so, yeah, it's like positive, limited edition reminders you can wear. It's kind of our tagline. Cool. And that's kind of grown into other things. We sell t-shirts. We have courses.

We have a podcast. I feel like if youshirts, we have courses, we have a podcast. I feel like if you like, I actually feel like we have a lot of crossover podcast audience wise, where you guys are definitely more fun the whole time. Brooke and I do have a serious side of our podcast. So we like to have fun, we like to laugh. You guys blend it really well.

And then we always try to like- Have a nugget. Yeah, like our tagline is the Walking Love Podcast is a weekly conversation between Brooke and I about rhythms, emotions, parenting, faith. It's a place where we laugh

and sometimes cry as we try to find language to live a full life. Yeah. And so if that sounds like something you'd like, that's part of Walk in Love. Have I told you that we think

that Rachel and I met because of your podcast? Is that real? She messages that. Okay, gotcha. That's amazing. I want to hear that tonight. Cool.

Next one, I write books. Amazon.com. Maybe I shouldn't have. It's a pretty personal question. Do you truly write every single word? 100%. That is a personal question, but I don't mind saying it. Because I have friends that have a ghostwriting business. Ghostwriter is totally fine. I'm actually totally okay with it.

I don't ethically feel it's okay for me personally. Here's what I would say. I think it's totally legitimate for people, for authors to write, to have ghost writers, but they should still be on the title or acknowledged in the book publicly. That they didn't totally write it. And it happens a lot.

A lot of celebrity books, it's technically a ghost writer, but it'll say, I don't want to call anyone out, but no, because it says it. It'll say, buy Chip and Joanna Gaines, and I think the guy's name's Mark something. You know Mark's the ghost writer. As long as it's acknowledged publicly, which like that example, a lot of times what happens with celebrities is it's just a transcription so they just stand and

talk for the whole time the guy someone else kind of the guy takes notes and describes it better but no i mean i have i have editors and stuff like that people to help me shape the outline but never a ghostwriter that's my words that's your boy's words that'd be hard not to though i feel like what do you mean hard not to like just have someone do it for you. I think because I'm so high control, it actually bothers me. That would be tough. You need to micromanage certain things. With low control, I think people are like, whatever, get it out. But for me, I want it set exactly.

That's true. If part of your career was built off this, maybe it would be easier. If you're Peyton Manning and you want to write a book, just go do it. I don't care. Then I think it would actually be almost dumb. It feels like a waste of their time to write it. How long does it take you to write?

I know it would actually be almost dumb. It feels like a waste of their time to write it. To write it. How long does it take you to write? I know it's general. A book takes, no, it's almost, it's 12 years in, so it's pretty consistent now. 12 years, okay. What do you do? Oh, sorry. Sorry, go ahead. Six to nine months, no, six to nine months to research it, three to four months to write it, and then it takes about a year because the publishing process to edit it and all

that stuff. Wow. There you go. So quick side note, Jeff's video goes viral on YouTube. That's kind of how we met. 10 years ago? And then a few weeks later

I messaged him. I said, hey, we sell these t-shirts. Do you want some? And he was like, sure. So I sent him a bunch and he was like,

I actually liked them. That was rare. That was what he said. You guys know this. You get sent some stuff, you might love it. Yeah. He's like,

I actually liked them. And then he was, Haynes 50-50. And then he was like, I'm coming to your area. And we had a retail store. And I said, why don't you come in the store and do a signing? Didn't have a book or anything.

Because I didn't have a book published yet. So we just marketed that Jeff was coming from this video. And we printed out pieces of paper that he could sign. And people stood in line. Lying out the door. It was awesome. It was awesome. But then I came back again for a book signing.

Then you came back for a book signing and then, yeah, like that's how our friendship started. Really? And I feel like I randomly went to Kinko's that morning or something. Yeah, and you ran into Brooke because she was printing out the papers. But why was I at Kinko's? I don't know. But yes, I met Brooke first at Kinko's. That's not a thing anymore. You were going to Kinko's in a town you don't live in? Yeah. I literally don't know what I was doing.

But I went into Kinko's before the signing, met Brooke. No, it was like a UPS. It was like maybe you were shipping something. Yeah, right it was like one of the print yeah i forgot that is yeah it's like 12 years ago yep wow next business um i guess the next one i feel like everything we do is sort of under the walk and love umbrella but i think one of the newer things we're doing is called moms on maui oh yeah so uh brooke me i leave with our three daughters head to the mainland and brooke basically turns our house into like a retreat for eight moms to come and rest and rejuvenate and refresh

so that they can fight the good fight of being a mom. She just takes care of them. Top shelf service. And what's cool is like we just did it the first time a few months ago, and multiple moms had their Apple Watch notify them that they had a new resting heart rate by the end of the week, which is so cool. Oh,

that'll preach. Yeah. Isn't that so cool? Yeah. I've never got that notification. Like I think scientifically, I always get stand up. Like as a,

like as men, we have no problem finding hobbies. We, we play pickleball. We, the moms always sacrifice. Moms just have like, they'll be like,

Oh, I'm going to go to target and drink a coffee while I walk around. And it's like an hour of time. And then they're just right back into the mix of it. And so the heart behind Moms on Maui is to give moms actual time to just actually give themselves a break and refresh. Decompress.

Yeah. So that's been a cool new addition. Yeah. Last one for me, familyteams.com, formingmen.com, primalpath.co. Pretty much all the exact same thing in the sense of one's for family, one's for men, one's for father-s path.co pretty much all the exact same thing in the sense

of ones for family ones for men ones for father sons but they're all the exact same vibe courses podcasts videos conferences whatever what happened with primal path.com domains i know i got it someone was domain dot com we're ghost runners dot life hey wow! You know what John got in New York? He got church.nyc. Oh, cool. That's a strong domain for a church in New York. I think Trey and I have moodswings.golf.

Okay. We can do that. That's fun. You know what? .dads just launched two months ago. Do you guys know that? Do you guys know how new domains launch and how it works? So when they come, it's kind of like government regulated.

So.dads just got launched. You can buy them and purchase them, but they do a sliding scale of price release from day one the more you purchase no from days released so the day one of.dads domain any single domain

you wanted as a.dad was 20 grand and the next day 15 next day like 12 so then basically it makes it so it makes it

so it makes it where like if you want to get what you want really bad then you're going to pay a high price if you can wait it out and your domain's still left,

then it'll be cheaper. Interesting. You got any left? Sunny Morrow. I do have one left, but family teams and integrated has radically transformed my life to the point that we live here now, which has been really cool. And then our last one is a women's fashion brand called Sunny Morrow,

and the tagline is, everyday essentials as fun as you are. So just launched. Perfect tagline. You have, you're the tagline. The taglines are fire. Him tag.

Okay. Him tags as well. Yes. That's great. I love what you said about. Should we do a discount code? I'll do a discount code. Discounting code.

Yeah. Ghost runners. Use the code ghost runners at any of those things. Not moms on Maui, but walk in love. $500 off. That one is full price. Those spots are limited. That's awesome but walk in love. $500 off. That one is full price. Those spots are limited.

That's awesome. Walk in love, Sunday, tomorrow. I feel like I've heard multiple stories of you like reaching out to people, TJ, of like, yeah, I reached out to Bethke and said, hey, do you want some of our, like, you've done, you've reached out to Chris Pratt and said some stuff. You have that story about you and John

Crist and Dustin Nickerson. Oh, yeah. When you road tripped with him? Yeah, yeah. I think that story about you and John Crist and Dustin Nickerson. Oh, yeah, when you road tripped with him? Yeah, yeah. I think that's just such a great testimony because I am so hesitant to do that. My philosophy is the worst thing someone can say is no. Right. And I can take a no. Sure.

But what's crazy is we had a friend who had all these celebrity connections. She's like, what address do you want? And I don't know how she was getting them. I don't know if she was a spy or whatever. She would just send us these addresses. It's all like Tim Tebow, Steph Curry, like a bunch of huge celebrities. She's like, is there anyone else you'd be interested in? I was like, how about Chris Pratt? And she's like, okay. And she sends me an address. And I'm like, all right. So I sent him a box. And that was the movie. We just load

up a box with as many things as possible, try to get them to, and then a few weeks later- It was like on paparazzi shots, just wearing it. And then a few weeks after that, I get a phone call. I was actually, we had, we had, uh, co-owned a coworking space. I'm in the floor. I'm in the coworking space, cleaning the floor on my hands and knees. We had like this photo studio that like was kind of a nightmare to clean. And I get a phone call. And so I pick it up. It says Los Angeles. And the person that is calling is Chris Pratt's personal assistant. And she's like,

hey, I just want to let you know that Chris really appreciated the box of shirts that you sent him and he wanted me to give you a call and say thank you. Dude, that's sick. I didn't know that part of the story. And I've never,

out of all the people we've sent to, outside of Jeff doing the signing, a piece of paper, I've never had someone actually call and say thank you. That was a really, really cool thing that happened. Then I saved the number immediately and text her every time

we had a launch. I text her and I was like, hey, is he one more? Sometimes she'd say yes and sometimes she'd say no. That's cool, man. All because you just got to ask. It pays to be a seven on the Enneagram. Yeah, a little bit. Just go for it. Just send it. Full send. Full send. In all moments. And you love Guardians of the Galaxy, right? Yeah.neagram. Yeah, a little bit. Just send it. Full send.

And you love Guardians of the Galaxy, right? Yeah, big fan. One, two, and three. All good. Three was actually even a little emotionally dark, so I might have rated it an eight, but it was good. The emotions made it worse? No, not that it was an emotional journey.

It was emotionally dark. What's his name? Why am I blanking on his name? Raccoon's name. Rabbit? Rocket. Rocket. Rabbit. Rocket.

Rocket the rabbit. It got a little spicy, man, on my heartstrings. And I was like, I don't know. And then I went down. It made me feel something. It made me feel an emotion. And I was like, nah. Not for me, dude. Weird. Oh, man.

Cool. Thank you for joining. We'll see you in Kansas City. Please. Actually, I'm going in February. I'm going to see Nate Bargatze there. February is the greatest time to come to Kansas City. It's in a stadium, but what's your rose? What's your rose and ticket number? February is terrible. I'll see you there though.

I'll see you there. Are you going to speak there as well? Yeah, I'm speaking in February 3rd and spring. I was just going to the Nate show. I was like, what are you doing in Kansas City? I'm speaking at like a family marriage thing, February 10th. And then he's that night. He's that night. So Alyssa's coming to fly over just to go to the show with me.

Are you going to Springfield? Springfield's not Kansas City. No, it's Springfield, February 3rd, Kansas City, February 10th. It's like one conference they do two times in a row in Missouri. So you'll be in Missouri this whole time? No, flying in and out one day. Then I go to integrated for a week, fly back to Kansas City. Oh, fun. There you go. So I'll see you Missouri this whole time? No. Fly in and out one day. Then I go to Integrated for a week, fly back to Kansas City. Oh, fun. There you go.

I'll see you. Maybe we can fly to Kansas City back together if you're in group two. Holy cow. Let's go. Me, you, and Alyssa just holding hands. It's on the middle seat. Well, maybe should we save Rachel's travel woes, or should we talk about it right now?

Let's save it. Save it for when you guys do. Yeah, it's really funny. But great. I need to go smoke some tacos. See you guys. All right. Thank you guys.

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