Ghostrunners - 287 - Creating New Rhythms (with TJ Mousetis from Walk In Love.)

Episode Date: December 13, 2023

TJ Mousetis (Walk In Love.) joins the podcast to recap Brad's time on Maui, talk about Jake's comedy show, and discuss a topic that he's deeply passionate about: living in a weekly rhythm. TJ is a dear friend and we had a blast recording this episode for you all! Mahalo! To learn more about TJ and his businesses, check out walkinlove.com (promo code "GHOSTRUNNERS" for a discount), and sunnymorrow.com! Check out Main Street Roasters and use code GRKC at check out for a 10% discount! https://mainstreetroasters.com Check out Good Ranchers and get %10 off with code GRKC http://bit.ly/3KV86YU Ghostrunners merch: https://bit.ly/399MXFu Get a personalized video from us on Cameo: https://v.cameo.com/e/fvERn6rrysb Become a Patron and get exclusive content from Jake & Brad: https://bit.ly/2XJ1h3y Follow us on Instagram: http://bit.ly/33WAq4P Leave us a voice memo and ask a question: https://anchor.fm/jake-triplett/message Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey guys, welcome to Ghost Runners. Sans Jake. Yeah. Plus Teej. See you later, Jake. Teej Maceda's in the house. News is just in. Jake's out. Teej's in. Officially still here on Maui for a couple more days and figured I would try to steal one more episode with my good friend Teej here while Jake is now, I think, on his way to Australia. Yeah. The time is going to be weird when people are listening to all this stuff because I don't know if this is going to be the Wednesday episode or the Monday episode or if it's going to be the Wednesday right before Christmas.

Are we after the two we recorded with Bethke? We're going to be after that. So we can at least mention. Yes, but then at the same time, we're still going to be like, I don't know. It's time travel. If I'm going to record another one with Catherine, that will do. Whatever.

All that to say, TJ is here. I'm excited to talk to him about anything and everything. We'll see what happens. But one of the things I think it would be fun to start out with is actually something that you mentioned to me a couple nights ago. A target trend that's going on right now. And I don't know. Target trend is too extreme. But this is just Ghostrunners.

This is perfect for Ghostrunners. Apparently, well, you want to just tell them? Yeah, so I was on Instagram scrolling through, and I saw this Christmas decoration. Yeah. And my first thought was, this is a spoof. Yeah, yeah. There's just no way this is real. Like, this is, yeah. Yeah. And it was a like sort of small little tabletop decoration of Santa Claus,

but he was not standing. He was in a wheelchair. And I, I just can't, I can't like it's gone too far. And they're like, please buy this from us and post it. No disrespect to people that have to be in a wheelchair or whatever. But I don't think if you're Santa Claus, maybe give it up to the elves and the reindeer at this point. It's just not going to work out.

There's no lore of Santa being wheelchair-bound. Just kind of like getting down the chimney, like back and forth on the bricks. Okay, lands on a roof. It's got a slight slant to it. It's an ADA compliant roof. So yeah,

I just feel like peak sort of political correctness is just too much for me to handle. I thought it was a joke. I was like, oh, we are now living out satire. I understand different races of joke. I was like, oh, we are now living out satire. Like, I understand different races of Santa. Yeah, I don't mind that. Yeah.

Like different gener, whatever. Yeah. Like eras of Santa. But yeah. But like when a movie does Santa and he's like a little bit rough around the edges or he's like a little bit crotchety or like, yeah, like I'm like, this is great. Like I can take a Tim Allen Santa. I can take a Kurt Douglas Santa.

But I don't know if I would put any of the like Santa Claus five coming soon. Santa got hurt. I don't think Stephen Hawking is ever going to play Santa. Yeah, so it's just like it's too much. It's too much. It's gone too far too far. Let's just like let's rein it in a little bit. Let's rein it.

So hey, we're gonna have a fun episode here. TJ's here. Let's let's get it in. So, hey, we're going to have a fun episode here. TJ's here. Let's get into it. Yeah. Uh-oh. Ooh, I think this tight beat means that it's going down with some random thoughts and white meat too. Midwest best friends eating fast food on repeat.

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Check them out. All right, man. Well, yeah, thanks for doing this with us. It's a GRKC. Check them out. All right, man. Well, yeah. Thanks for doing this with us. It's a earlier morning episode. Do you, you usually record your podcast? Uh, what like mid afternoon, we've gone through a lot of iterations of recording time as you guys

have. It's like whenever we can fit it in. Yeah. Early on in the podcast, we were like, okay, we're going to like, you know, you got like, okay, Brooke's dad is a recording artist. Yes. So he's a children's and family recording artist. And he has a studio. So we're like, we'll just go to his house, drop the kids. We'll play with grandpa and grandma. We'll record and we'll like batch them. They'll be like 30 minutes. Oh yeah. We'll be straight to the point. And like, and we did that for a while. And then it was like, I really had a lot of issue with that in terms of, I like to talk about what's happening now. Right.

That is like a big thing for me. It's just part of the way I process. Yeah. And so then we recorded in our basement in Pennsylvania for a long time. Like dingy, gross. That's when real podcasts happen, baby. Yeah. And we had this ongoing joke of like,

Brooke could climb out the window if she needed to. Like if things got bad enough, we could just climb out the basement window. What's going on down there? So yeah, we've done it all. Nighttime, we recorded, we filmed it for a while, now we don't film it anymore. And yeah, but this is probably the earliest we've ever done.

Yeah. We usually, for Ghostwriters, we usually like meet at nine, but we don't usually start recording to nine 45 by the time Titus gets everything. Yeah. I love the idea of like changing his name. Yeah. That's like we had an employee. His name was Matt Cark and, and because his name is Cark, his last name is Cark. That sounds like Matt Cark. Yeah. Yeah. And so he would get emails. Hey, thanks Mark. Hey, thanks, Mark, because like people would just like put it together in their head, and so now people call

him bark on the internet. I love that. Yeah, this is probably the earliest we've ever done. Ours is all based around our children, like when we can like because you're doing it as a couple. Yeah, distract them with a nap and a movie and all that kind of stuff. Well, if you missed last week's episode with Jeff and TJ or whatever, they didn't, they didn't miss it. It was top notch. It was awesome. Go back and listen to it. But also this is TJ.

He's one of my best friends and yeah, lives on Maui runs, walk in love, runs new clothing brand, sunny Morrow. If you're watching, you can see some of it in the back, which is fun.

Yeah. We're like in the, yeah, the display room right now in the office and everything, fun. Yeah, we're like in the display room right now. In the office, in everything. Display room. Display room, whatever you want to call it. In our extra bedroom.

I know, dude. It's so funny when you're like a small business. Yeah, we're in the studio of our podcast. You're in Jake's paneled guest bedroom. Yeah, it's a studio. We don't do tours yet uh but that's coming soon 2025 we'll start it our employees yeah i have to like you know yeah uh we're quiet on the set everyone this is an empty camera no one's behind it oh man yeah anyway but uh yeah we're

here we're hanging out it's been an interesting interesting time on Maui because compared to last time, dude, like, yeah, my experience has just been so different. Second time here. Second time here. First time was like... I didn't know who you were. Well, I knew who you were, but, you know... Right, I didn't know who you...

Or like, I didn't know you even lived on Maui or anything. I don't know. Walk in love. Because I remember Jake, you were doing like a Instagram live one time and Jake like popped on it. I was like, okay. And I went on there and just like said, Ellis, because of creations.com or something like

that. Classic. It's like, you want to get, you want to get rich with Bitcoin message me now. Yeah. And I remember you guys commented. I was like, Hey, fun. These guys, these guys like me. Yeah.

But yeah, the first time it was like literally just catherine and i just going by ourselves dude yeah hanging out just doing the like tourist thing resorting yeah and yeah this time you're like hanging with buds i've barely done any tours it's been such a different well first of all the weather yeah it was raining you got like two of the eight days of rain while you're here yeah that we get a year dude it never rained i was, I don't believe it. It sure seems just fine. And then I've been feeling weird. Like, I don't know if I've ever gotten past like 75% of my like true self. And so every time I want to like, you're like, I think I feel that's the worst.

And you're like, I think I feel. Nope. Nope. Yeah. Nope. I think I got it. I think I'm better. And it's like, no, never mind.

It's like these. It's so lame as a guy to complain about like cramps, but it's like these stomach, like contraction. I kept calling him contraction yesterday. That guy was like, oh, another contraction. And she's like, oh, I can't imagine what that feels like. Oh, you poor thing. You ain't no guy.

You're a bikey. And it was like, oh, they last for like three seconds. She's like, oh, really? It's rough life. You mean get you a cold towel? Yeah. She's not very sympathetic in general, but really when I started calling them contractions,

I shouldn't have done that. That was too much. I was trying to resonate with her. Yeah, just trying to get on her level. Yeah, listen. I understand what you're going through now. I get it. Oh, and instead she's just like, no. I feel like all men are complete babies when it comes to sickness.

It's amazing. And it's because when we were sick as kids, our moms just were like, oh, this is my time to snuggle with them and hold them and be their mom. And so it has created this sort of like, I am a feeble human that can't function in reality with a temperature of 98.7 degrees. So please, can you please turn the fan on for me? Cater to my every whim.

Turn it on yourself. It's a switch. You can reach it with your foot if you really wanted to. Like, you'll be fine. So one of the days here, I think, like I went to acai bowls with jake and rachel and katherine and while i was there jake rachel though right yeah oh of course all of notch yeah uh while i was there jake rachel and katherine all stood up and ate their acai bowls and i like hunched over and it was like one of those things was like guys sit down with me and they did it and i was like i

just the low life over here and they're like you guys want to walk around dude it was like one of those things was like guys sit down with me and they did it and i was like i just the low life over here and they're like you guys want to walk around dude it was like they were running a marathon i was trying so hard to just like drag myself i'll catch up with you guys like no problem like they're looking at all these like like whatever rock gardens yeah like stopping and i'm still not able to catch up with i don't know what was going on our line is tell my story just yeah remind our kids about me okay uh so like i tried just struggling through and then went home that day and slept yeah genuinely five hours i kept knocking on your door because i could hear the tv and i was like hello you need anything nope just yeah i got a nice text from you, from Catherine. How you doing?

Not Jake, though, so. Jake was thinking of me that night, though. Okay. That night was, so, yeah. Slept for like five hours. He started to potentially think about maybe texting me, but instead he didn't. No, he has his own things to worry about.

Yeah, he was not worried about me. But I will say, just in general, Jake has become way sweeter since being with Rachel, since being married. Marriage will soften you up a little bit. Every single time. Or make you just more aware. Yeah. Yeah, 100%.

I think, Jake, if you guys watch our podcasts on YouTube, you notice we're always drinking some kind of drink, like Zevia or LaCroix or whatever. And it's because Jake, every single time before we record, anybody need anything to drink? Never did he once ask that. Wow. And now every single time he asked. That's awesome. And I told Rachel, I was like, Jake wasn't like mean before you, but now that like you're married and like you've asked that a few times now, Jake has learned like, oh, I should probably ask. Yeah. You realize like, if I ever said, Hey Jake, can I get a drink from your fridge? You'd be like, yeah, of course, a hundred percent. But now

he's like reaching out. Yeah. So anyway, yeah, long, long story short, it's been an interesting weird like, but I rain slash sick. Catherine's been having a ball, though. That was so funny. Like a few times, like we'll be out driving and I'll be like, oh, this is a cool place.

Like, yeah, that's where Rachel and I went for lunch. I was like, oh, cool. She's like, oh yeah, that's where Jake, Rachel and I went for lunch. We walked on that beach. Oh, cool. Yeah. Yeah. She was like, oh, the beach we were at yesterday. I was like, okay, this is fun. Yeah. But I will say like the big silver lining to the whole thing is like, if I'm going to like, I mean, obviously if I'm going to be sick on one of these trips, I'm glad I'm sick or like whatever, not feeling a hundred percent or the weather's not perfect when I have friends to hang out with, you know, like where I'm not as excited about just being on Maui outside about seeing you guys. So, um, yeah, anyway, the, the, the, let's talk about

the show. Uh, the, the show was awesome. Um, you know, it really was, I'd never seen, I've never been, obviously they've never come here. I've never been, obviously. They've never come here. I've never been around where they were touring. Did a fantastic job, both of them. Really, I was... I know that they're funny. Are you secondhand nervous for them ever? 100%.

I've gone to see... Nate Bargatze came here, and it was great. He's super funny. But because I know them I am definitely more like people better laugh and if they're not I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna make the difference I'm gonna make up the difference as one man I am going to laugh as hard as I can so that they feel good about themselves and like everyone was laughing yeah you know but Catherine did say that to Rachel she's like I, I'm going to laugh extra hard at you, which is such a like quality friend

move. Yeah. And there's me like half dead. Like, yeah, I'm not going to pretend to laugh at anything. I'm not really laughing at it. Yeah. I just look like Stephen Hawking. So we're, we're sitting there and this guy like, uh, uh, Brad and I sat next to each

other, Rachel and Catherine sat next to each other. Rachel and Catherine sat in front of us. This guy has to get beside us. And so, you know, we do the thing where you, like, kind of twist your legs, you know, to the side. And I'm a bigger guy, I understand that. But, like, I did, like, the kind of, like, half stand. Yeah.

Yeah. There was plenty of room. He made zero effort. It was a power move. Yeah. He just stood there and was like, nope. Yeah. You're going to have to get up. Yeah. And we're just like, okay. He just stood there and was like, nope. Yeah. You're going to have to get up. Yeah.

We're just like, okay. And then he went and sat two seats down. There was no one in between us. Uh-huh. And did not move, smile, or maybe even blink the whole time. I don't know if he understood where he was. Yeah. I was like, at one point, I was like, I think he might be here to kill one of these comedians.

He was a six foot seven. Yeah. Big old dude. Looked like he like ran like an impound car lot. Yeah. Like, like just like just a scary guy that doesn't live on Maui. Like what had some city miles on him? Yes.

Like this guy has not been in Maui and just dead, dead serious. Yeah. Like didn't, I felt like he didn't blink. And I was like, if he goes for the stage, I'm gonna have to tackle him. I'm gonna save Jake. And that's gonna be my story. Tell my story. Right.

Yeah. Tell my kids. Yeah. I, he was interesting. There was Jake had some good crowd work. Yeah, he did. He had the crowd participation was very odd. And which is like, like he asked someone where they were from,

and they said P-Town, which is Paia. And I've never heard anyone in the history of time call it P-Town. Oh, really? So maybe they were being a little bit difficult to Jake. And then he's like, what's it like? And she said the zip code. Yeah! Jake Handel said it so well.

That was always so fun. It's like 9-6-7-5-5 that was like nine, six, seven, five, five. Like, oh, never got that before. What are you asking for your zip? Yeah, that was great. And then like, what's what are you? What's P-Town known for? Yeah, it's like not wearing yoga. A hundred percent.

He is like a kind of a dirty hippie surfer bro town. Yeah, but man, he played into it. Well, at one point he complained about But man, he played into it well. At one point, he complained about the weather, and somebody was like... It felt... So first of all, the whole show, I don't know how big the venue was, but it was not very full.

No. And I think obviously... Which is like, that's just Maui. Yeah, Jake and Trey kind of expected that. You can kind of see it in advance. Like, hey, we're not selling as many tickets. And so it felt almost like a comedy club in the sense of like like jake even said like i didn't have to repeat my answers in the microphone everyone in the crowd could hear him yeah yeah and so in some

ways that made it more fun because yeah it was like truly like a little bit of you know exactly where this person's talking from over here kind of thing uh and so what was i gonna say with that uh just like at one point, some guy, he asked one guy, you know, he's like doing his bit on being a picky eater. Yes. And the guy's like, he's like, what'd you ever did? I was like, chips. That was great. Yeah. And then he's like, how do you like your pizza? And he goes folded. Yes, that's right. How do you eat your pizza? And that just actually got Jake, like actually laughed out loud. Like, yeah, he's pretty deadpan through his whole bit,

but that actually made him laugh. Yes. Oh, that's right. And then the thing that he was also saying, it's been raining here the whole time, and somebody kind of seriously was like, thank God for rain. Yeah.

Thank God for the rain. And Jake's like, thank God. He's like, okay, are we at church now? Because on one hand, it was like, yeah, that's true. The island obviously has gone through some stuff, and it would have helped to have the soil be wet or whatever. He said he was like, I didn't know what to say. So he just kind of backed out of it because people can get testy

about that kind of stuff. But then the ultimate moment was during Trey's set. Well, wild. Yeah, tell them all about it so trey's doing some crowd work yeah about it like he did he's doing a marriage bit he's talking to a girl she just got married on the right side of the right side of the stage you know she just got married her husband wasn't there he was at bible study like so that was funny. And then like, while he's talking to her, make fun of me, dude. Yeah. Make fun of me.

Out of nowhere. Like it might've been the guy's boss, like the, the impound boss in the back seat. It felt like he was the only guy in the balcony. Yeah. Like this guy was far, far away,

but had a booming. Yes. Make fun of me. I don't care what that guy looked like. I would never fight him. Okay. So he said, he said three things about himself. He wanted to give Trey some ammunition.

Yeah. Well, but do you want to hear the things that I thought he said versus the thing is he actually said? Yes. So he goes, I'm Southern. This is what I thought. I'm Southern. I have hepatitis B and I'm poor

and you're like man yeah the two on the end don't match the one in the middle let's go ahead and go with this but what he actually said was I'm southern I'm missing teeth yeah hepatitis B I don't know where I got that

and I'm poor yeah and Trey was just like, I think you took care of it. Yeah. Yeah. But it was, it was uncomfortable. And it was like,

while Trey is talking to the other people, this guy just out of nowhere, roast. Yeah. Make fun of me. Make fun of me. And everyone was just like, what is happening?

Where are we? It was quiet enough and small enough where everyone was like, genuinely, is he about to like, like, is Trey about to like like scope this like is trey about to get shot like by this guy i don't know what's happening it was weird

yeah but it was what he sounded like the scariest yeah like just like do not mess with this guy don't i don't know what's going on but it's also like a weird thing you know like normally a guy that's like scary and mean probably wouldn't want to get made fun of. So I'm picturing kind of an older guy. Yeah. But I... Yeah, this guy felt like he was six foot two with a beard, half teeth. A little bit of hep B in his system. I don't know, man.

But Trey did a good job of bringing it back and making fun of that guy. I think he got thrown out. I think he got thrown I think they got through, he got thrown out because there he stopped. And I feel like a guy like that wouldn't stop. It was just so random how like halfway through the set. And it wasn't even like in a lull. He was, yeah.

Trey was literally talking to somebody else. And I looked over at you. You're like, I'm so uncomfortable. I don't know. Just like that. Yeah. It's just so cringy.

And I know that Trey's dealt with things like that before. He posted something on his Instagram last week or whatever about, or who knows when the people are listening to this five weeks ago, uh, about two years ago, running up on stage, um, and like trying to like see him or something.

I don't know, but it was just so odd. Yeah. But overall, man. Yeah. It's so good. Trey.

It's funny. I think Trey and Jake both seem like to me, unless I just forgot half their set, it seemed like they had a lot of new stuff compared to, yeah, they had a hundred percent new stuff to me. Yeah. Yeah.

You've never heard. Yeah. It was all, it was all good. Yeah. I've tried to remember other times that we really laughed hard. Jake does this bidet bit. That was great.

And so anyway, so anyway, I'm, I'm really intrigued to hear how it translates to Australian. Yeah. Cause even like, as he was like, they were telling jokes in Hawaii, like Trey, I'm trying to think of specifics, but like there were certain things I was like, that's not very like, like relatable here. Yeah. And I'm like, Australia is going to be even less related to that. But who knows? That's got to be tough to like go in a place that you're not used to. Don't really understand the like inside jokes, the vibes.

But then again, like maybe if you're listening to a British comedian, would you just kind of like accept that? Yeah, I would just think, oh, that must be funny to everyone. Like, well, Brooke and I watched the British Baking Show. Yeah. And the two hosts are constantly making references to like pop icons and culture. And I'm like, huh, right. You know, like, I don't know who I've never heard is father you necessarily. No. And you watch how ridiculous they're. Yeah. They're Australian. So

yeah. Anyway, I don't know. It's it'll be fun to hear how it's all going for, for Jake. But yeah, we're here in Maui for what? Two more days. Yeah. Hanging out. Let's talk. It's going to be your early thing now. I want it to be. Yeah. Hanging out. Uh, let's talk. It's going to be your early thing now. I want it to be. Yeah. I, yeah. I already mentioned to Catherine.

She kind of laughed. I was like, Oh, I was kind of serious. We'll revisit this later. Solo trip. Uh, yeah.

Oh yeah. I'm just going to pop over to Maui. I got to record some podcast. It's easy. It's easy flight. Uh, you know, half the time you'll come to Kansas city and be like,

why are we here? Uh, let's go to Maui instead. But, um, well, let's talk about Sabbath a little bit. I think, uh, you know, half the time you'll come to Kansas city and be like, why are we here? Uh, let's go to Maui instead. But, um, well, let's talk about Sabbath a little bit. I think, uh, I think so. Yeah. Just, just in general, you, you, you're very passionate TJ slash the Mercedes family about rhythms. Um, and yeah, just talk a little bit about the rhythms, talk a little bit about what we kind of experienced last night for Sabbath and what Sabbath looks like to you. Because that's something that I am getting more passionate about, but at the same time have really struggled

and slash really not purposely implemented as well as I could. I know that people that listen, I do dadder days every Saturday morning. So we kind of have this unofficial Sabbath of Friday night, movie night. Saturdays, I take the kids and let Catherine have some rest. And then that sounds like Sabbath to me. Yeah. Kind of unintentionally amazing. But I loved, I loved what you did last night with dinner. So let's talk about, I guess I'll start at the beginning. Cause we kind of like reverse engineered it. So like, you know, I grew up in the church to grow up a Christian. Yeah. You know, my dad took a nap on Sunday. Yeah, like that was the

that was like all that Sabbath was like you take a nap after church, eat lunch, you eat lunch slash dinner right after church, a big old, yeah, big old lunch on your own for dinner, right? And you take a nap. That was kind of for dinner. Yeah, that was kind of the like Sabbath I grew up with, you know, not named, not talked about, not really taught about, and even in just like general evangelical church, it's not really not talked about, not really taught about. And even in just like general evangelical church, it's not really super talked about. Yeah, it's one of the Ten Commandments, but it's like, okay. Yeah.

I understand. That's when you got church. Yeah. So no real lessons on it in my life. And then Brooke and I have run businesses now for 15 years. And so we have meetings for those businesses. We have plans somewhat sometimes, you know, sometimes we got plans, you know, we have like, we have like systems and processes and all this kind of stuff. And, and so we were really struggling in terms of like

having that stuff at home. Like, why do we have all these tools in place to run our business well, but not all these tools in place to run our family well. Right. And so we're like, why don't we start by building something that works for us? So we got this big poster board out. We wrote all the days on it. We like basically created this like big poster board

that we hung on the wall. Yeah. And like, it was like a weekly family thing that we would do. Yeah. Not knowing anything about rhythms, not knowing really anything about Sabbath, but just like we could tell there was something like off

about how our family operated when we would go to work and we'd be like, okay, let's execute and do this stuff and all this kind of stuff. And then we'd come home and it'd just be like, oh, this is just chaos. Organized, loving chaos, but just chaos. And so we started building this thing and then we like went through iterations of it. Eventually we birthed this product called the family playing

calendar. So that's where that started. And now as we look back, we were like, oh, well, we were trying to establish a rhythm. Like that's all we were doing. And we just created a product to kind of help with that. Not really knowing the words and the language for that. And so like, and because we're friends with the Beth keys and Jeremy prior and like, they talk about that kind of stuff all along. So like, then we started realizing, oh, people are talking about this. They're just not people that were like consuming a lot of content around. And so then we started diving a little bit deeper into it and deeper into it. And so over the last five years, we have

unlocked what Jeremy calls the technology of living in a seven-day rhythm. God created the earth in seven days, gave us the technology of living rhythmically. So instead of a straight line up and to the right, or like we're just moving forward, we live rhythmically, which is these circles that go back. So every seven days, you get a chance to do it again, perfect it, uh, work on it, tinker with it, all this kind of stuff. Yeah. And so it started with, let's write everything on this board on this, you know, poster board. And then as we sort of like matured in it, it became like, okay, then we were having a family dinner. Then I went to my first integrated and they were like, Hey, this family dinner should kick. Like we were having a family dinner. Then I went to my first integrated and they were like, hey, this family dinner should kick like we were having a special family dinner

on Wednesday night. Again, not having any language for it. Just like we're just doing it. Let's just set a day aside so we can just like do something that the kids remember. Like we want to create these like emotional connections to like being part of our family union. Yeah, 100%. So I go to my first integrated and he's like, oh, this meal, it's called Shabbat. It happens. It starts off Sabbath. And I'm like, I'm just like, you know, like texting Brooke, we're changing everything about our lives for all the time. Get ready. Yeah. Get ready. We're doing it. And so I came home and brain dumped all that stuff onto her and was like, I think this would really benefit our family. And it has become one of the most life-giving things

that we do. And so what it looks like for us is the essential core of the seven-day rhythm is like you... And we have a class on this. There's other resources on this and stuff like that. But essentially, here's what you do. This is like a process you can go through.

Yeah. You take everything you do and you write it on post-it notes. Okay. Okay. If you are, if you say like, hey, I'm a podcaster, that goes in the rhythm. So you take that post-it note and you were going to put it on Mondays when you guys record or Thursdays or whatever. Yeah.

And you're like, okay, I'm a writer and you're, but you don't write ever. So if it's not in the rhythm, you're probably not a writer. Yeah. You know, like if you're an aspire, like that's something you want to do. And so, but if it's something you want to do, like you put it on Monday, eight to 9am, everything goes off and I just sit and write. And so again, you get shot after shot at writing for weeks and weeks and weeks, months and months and months, years and years and years. Turns out you are a writer. Sure. You know, same with the podcast. Like you guys just kept getting reps because you fit it into your weekly rhythm. Yeah. And so, but the weekly rhythm is anchored by a Sabbath day, a day of rest set aside to like, just kind of like someone just sent me this article yesterday on Instagram. It was like, studies show that taking a lazy day is what they call it reduces

stress, anxiety, like, and it's good for you. I'm like, almost like you were created for it. Yeah. It's always fun when, when science like just, yeah. Backs up what God's plan is. It's like, Oh, interesting. Yeah. That's cool. Yeah. Wow. Whoa. Yeah. People need community. Oh, no way. And so what we always say is start with Sabbath. And so our Sabbath starts on Friday night.

We have a special dinner. Again, special is a very loose term. Like when we first started, it was pizza. Like pizza, paper plates, and we light a candle. Yeah. Like if you have kids, the candle does something to your kid's brain where it's like fire is involved. This is sacred.

This is cool. This is different. So it started that way. And then we always had ice cream. So like we don't eat dessert during the week, but on Sabbath, Friday night, Shabbat dinner, let's have ice cream. Let's have Rice Krispie treats.

Let's throw it all in. Because the goal is to create this day, like that once one day of week, we can really taste and see the kingdom of God. And so, that's kind of the heart behind Sabbath. It's a day where we restore and we rest and we rejuvenate and we're just reinvigorated for what God has set before us. Yeah. Well, it's amazing. I love the idea, you know, like the idea, like that naturally there are rhythms of a year of a day. Yeah. That's all based on like science.

Yes. Whereas, but the, the weekly rhythm is not nearly as obvious. And it sounds like from what I understand, there's been like historical. Yeah. A hundred percent.

People have tried to do 10 day weeks. People have tried to do five day weeks or 14 day weeks. And productivity just. And it like, yeah. People have tried to do 10 day weeks. People have tried to do five day weeks or 14 day weeks. And productivity just crumbles a hundred percent or whatever. Like, you know, okay, let's work three days a week. Let's, you know, there's no like moon or sun like thing happening to say this is seven days. Like it is completely created by God. It's a technology he's given us. And so, yeah. So our Shabbat dinner now is we sit at the table. I light candles. And as I light candles, I have three girls. And I ask them, what is this meal called? They say Shabbat. What does Shabbat mean? They say

to cease. What does Shabbat start? They say Sabbath. I say, what is Sabbath? The day of rest. Who gave us the day of rest? God did, why did he give it to us? Because he loves us. And then we light the candles and then we say our family mantra prayer. And then one of the kids yells, let's feast. Yeah. It was so sweet and fun, but also not as intimidating as made it out to be in my head. Yeah. And that just is what works for our family. And've been to jeff's and i've been you know and maybe when you when your kids are 15 and it'll look a little bit different yeah 10 like it's like okay yeah this is different but the the the heart behind it and the idea behind is one we need it like especially in today's modern culture like we're just inundated with everything just coming through our eyes and brain. So like a day of just like, well, you know, to just separate,

um, is huge. But then also like as a kid growing up and again, like I, I had great parents. I, they're wonderful. They're amazing,

et cetera. But you know, they only knew what they knew. Right. They, my, like our generation, I can say that,

right? Yeah. Yeah. You're like five years old. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. that, right? Yeah. Yeah. You're like five-year-old. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Remember my space? Yeah. Yeah. Whatever. Um, and so like, you know, the, the emphasis was on like athletics, you know, sports, uh, school, all this kind of stuff. My parents never taught me how to rest. And so as an adult, I've had to learn how to do that. Dude, and I feel like these days it's getting crazier, like way worse. I feel like at least

we had some kind of balance. I don't feel like I was like overwhelmingly busy growing up. But yeah, I hear what you're saying. But now they're not only doing all the stuff that we did, but then they're also just like filling all the blank time with- Where do we go? Yeah, like look at our screens and stuff like that. And so what I feel like we're trying to do is like we want to teach these girls how to rest,

how to find this rhythm of rest so that they learn it and it's muscle memory and they're getting week in and week out reps at this thing that as adults, then they can carry into their adulthood when life gets a little more stressful with bills and kids and marriage and all that kind of stuff. And so, but it's been like,

we wouldn't live in Maui if we didn't start Sabbath, our marriage wouldn't be like where it is in terms of like how much, like how intimate it's become and how just like on the same page we are. And I just feel like we wouldn't be able to like see what God has done in our lives over the last five years. Like it, like there, there's multiple times. And I'll probably say it at the beach today because today's Sabbath that like, I'll just be like, man, it's great. Yeah. Yeah. Where'd you rather be? We were playing pickleball the other night. You know, we were at, we were over at Jeff's house, Jeff Bethke, and he's got like this

instinct. Yeah. Like great property. Yeah. It's awesome. Beautiful view playing pickleball. And the score was like 10 to nine playing to 11. I just stopped.

I was like, guys, anywhere you'd rather be. And I'm like halfway, like ready to throw up. Yeah. I'm not feeling too good, but we're having fun, right? But yeah, so it's been this really cool. And again, it has changed. We've gone through different seasons. Like for a while there, Brooke was like,

I just like at the end of the week, I don't want to cook a meal. That's what I was wondering sometimes is like, does it ever become more of a burden than a blessing? But then maybe it sounds like if it does, change up. Yeah. A hundred percent. It, it, the, the like rhythm of it. And just like, again, when I think about the girls, you know, getting all these reps at Sabbath, I just like, it makes any effort worth it, but it's crazy as you start to do it. And the, the joke, they made the joke last night,

dad's going to fall asleep during the movie. So we, so we do our dinner, we get our dessert, and then we watch a family movie together. And what happens and people, other people have talked about this. I think John Mark Comer talks about it in his book, uh, ruthless elimination of hurry that your body will literally start to expect it. Right. And so on Friday night, halfway through the movie gum out. Yeah. I was going to ask about that. Like if you ever miss it, because obviously this is way less extreme, but like four hour time difference here, like maybe my body just messed up and it was like, Hey, what are you doing here, man? You've missed a meal. You never miss a meal. Like what's going on here, bro? Uh, you know? And so I was on, I was wondering like biologically,

if you, yeah, if you miss a Sabbath or something, if you're expecting the Sabbath. Our goal is always, like, let's try to get 80% of them. If we can do 80%, like, that's a huge win for us. But we've done a lot this year. Like, I don't know if we've... That's awesome. And Brooke just had, like, a retreat here in our house called Moms on Maui. And I took all three girls to the mainland, to Pennsylvania, where my family lives. And we had Sabbath both Fridays that we were there with my mom and my brother

and sister-in-law. We still practice it. It looks different. We're in someone else's house, but we lit candles. We said the prayer. My mom is such... She loves it. She's like, this is so cool. That's awesome. And then Brooke had it here with the moms and she walked them through the process and and and there's different like there's sometimes where we get like a little more liturgy into it and there's sometimes when we're like oh let's do it like let's let's read some scripture or like but then there's times where it's just like here's pizza on paper plates and we lit a candle and like let's eat in front of the tv tonight yeah you know, but like, again, it's just sort of the, like, again, we're not living in a straight line. We're circling back. But then what happens as you

start to do this Saturday, then is our Sabbath, which for us is like, we don't, uh, we don't grip it tightly, but we also don't take it lightly. That's kind of our phrase. So like it matters, but like if we get invited to a birthday party, yes, we're going to go. I think I asked you about that one time. I was like, dude, I just feel like Saturday is too social of a time for us. And you're like, well, then hang out with people. Yeah, if that's restful and like rejuvenating and like, you know, if you're an extrovert and that's like going to bring you to life, hands down do it. Sure.

I married an introvert. So like for us, it's the beach. Like the beach has become such a staple of Sabbath, which obviously not a lot of people can do, but that has been huge for us. Um, and so what happens though is like, okay, let's say you're taking Saturday, you're going to turn off your phone. You're going to like set some, some boundaries and some rules again, that are for you and your family and your sort of world that you live in. Like for us, it's, we don't check social media on Saturday because we make our make our job is social media. And so like that's-

It's impossible for you to like just scroll Instagram without even thinking about- Yeah, without like being like, oh, I wonder if anybody sent me a DM and stuff like that. And so we do that. There was a season where I just turned off my phone completely, but I like listening to audio books. So that's kind of been reintroduced.

But again, that's like, again, ebb and flow, like let's tinker with it. Let's, let's get our reps in. But what happens is now that I know sat Friday night into Saturday night is our day of rest. Friday changes. It becomes a day where I'm like, okay, there are things have been on my week. I need to mark off that I need to get done. Yeah. So that changes. Well, and even like, uh, you said I didn't eat lunch today because I, cause you were like, sorry if I housed that thing. I didn't notice. I didn't think anything of it. I was like, sorry if I housed that thing. I didn't eat lunch today. Yeah. So that's something new that I've just started in the last two months where I skipped lunch on Fridays to make even that meal, even more sweeter feast worthy, you know, or whatever. Um, but it changes Friday. It makes it more of a day of like, let me, let me tie off these loose ends. Let me try to fix,

finish a few things. And then it changes Sunday. And so Sunday we go to church still, but then Sunday we call them set them up Sundays. Yep. Yep. Yep. And so it's like the onboarding for the week. And so like, you know, we'll do laundry, we'll do grocery shopping. We'll do the things that will help us have a good rest of the week. Yep. And then, you know, we'll do laundry, we'll do grocery shopping, we'll do the things that will help us have a good rest of the week. And then, you know, and then because it changes Friday, like first it'll change Friday, then it'll change Sunday, then it'll change Monday, then it'll change Thursday. And then all of a sudden you're like, oh, I'm living rhythmically because I started with Sabbath. And the phrase we always use is Sabbath changes everything. And it really has, like it has for us, it has for our kids, it has for where we live. Like it's just crazy. It really is like very fascinating to me.

It's one, something I need to like dive into more because you and I and people that have, well, really anybody I'm sure, but like people like you and I that don't have a traditional job, we don't have a, this is what we do every single Monday, whatever, but at least we have that anchor you're saying. So, um, yeah, that's fun. All right. Yeah. Catherine set up, set them up. So like, she's kind of started making it like a noun, like you want to let's after, after the, you know, next commercial, let's do some set them ups. Yeah. Like she'll be like, we can set them up a little bit, you know, uh, you know, whatever, just like we, like it's an on-ramp for our week. And yeah. So it was one of those things like Catherine, you, you know, whatever, just like we, like it's an on-ramp for our week. And yeah, so

it is one of those things like Catherine, you, you and Brooke love the metaphors. You love the a hundred percent, like all the different, you know, analogies and stuff. Catherine doesn't usually latch onto those very well, but I, you had talked to her. Yeah. You talk about set them up for success. And I was like, what do you think about doing this? Well, yeah, she just shortened it. She gave she gave the language back to us. Yeah, let's call set them up Sundays. And I was like, yeah, dude, she loves it. It's awesome.

So maybe I just need to like push. But that's that's the thing. Like there's there's so much power in naming things. And so as you start to call Saturday, as you start to call, like we started calling it our family dinner. Yeah. And now it's changed into our Shabbat dinner. But like the name of it and then like giving, especially if you have kids giving them visual cues that

something's happening. So like we put a tablecloth on last night. Yep. And I'll never forget a few years ago, we had to like do a photo shoot and I put a tablecloth on the table and Sonny came running. Yeah. Is it family dinner? She's pumped. And I'm like, no, no, it's Tuesday. Yeah. We're just putting on the table. But like those types of cues are super powerful. Oh yeah. And I'm like, no, no, it's Tuesday. We're just putting it on the table. But like those types of cues are super powerful and powerful to us. I don't think we realize how powerful they are to us. But again, like the cues, like the visual cues and then the names, you know, like we, we dinner together every night, but we call it family dinner, you know, like it's different. Yeah. And so naming Sunday naming Sunday set them up Sunday. I know there's

cause some guys that in their rhythms, they call it tough Tuesday and that's the day that they work like seven to seven, like all their calls, all their meetings, all that kind of stuff. And so they tell the family today's tough Tuesday. I like that. You know, we, we try to, we tried that for a little bit. I think we need to get back into it calling like their homeschool day was tough Tuesday. So like a little bit more, we're going to push a little bit, push the boundaries a little bit, but understanding. Yeah. Yeah. That's good, man. So, oh man, I'm so tired. Psych. Did I fool you? Probably because you thought I hadn't had my main street roasters coffee yet. That's right. We're sponsored by main street roasters. You know, you love them. They're the best

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with uber eats order now alcohol and select markets product availability may vary by regency app for details i love it dude yeah it's fun this is we met uh because of integrated yeah because you're the man and we're like i don't can you can you talk a little bit i know we've talked about okay like the the origin story okay but like bro like so first of all just thank the lord yeah for whatever he stirred in your heart the lord is good and so i i don't want to sound braggadocious. Okay. Okay. But I want to just tell the story. So if you're listening or watching and you think like, oh, this guy's not like, this is how the story happened.

Okay. I'm not adding or anything to it. So integrated radically changed our lives. Yes. And so my first thought is like, I need to give this to someone. And so I was like, I'm going to give this away. I'm going to give people their first year. Like, you know, we, we had, we had some incredible years of business last year. I've been a little bit rough, but that's okay. Yeah. So yeah. Go ahead. That'd be great. Musical ghost runners. Um, it's fine.

You know, we've always been through seasons of that, but like I was just like, who can I give this to my first? I was my brother-in-law, so I, you know, message him like, hey, I would love to give you this. I want to pay for your membership like, you know, you just got to pay to get there like you pay for your flights. I'll cover the rest, and so he went started changing his life. Yeah, that was like, yeah, two, three, three years, and I was like, and I, and I, so I'll go a little further back. My parents, we grew up poor. I never knew that. So

ever. Yeah, I thought all of garden was like the fanciest restaurant you could ever go to in the history of time. I think all garden might have fancy back to the day. There are wheels on the stairs. I don't know how fancy it is unlimited you are better better luxury.

There's something about like those, like, like chain bar and grills that I think went downhill for a while. It was like, Applebee's is nice. Yeah, I swear. Yeah.

But so like there, there's this family story where my parents, you know, we didn't have a lot of money. For dessert, sometimes they would bring out like that big can of peaches. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice, yeah.

But like the can. Yeah, aluminum can. Yeah, and they would sell it as like, we got peaches tonight. And we thought it was like the biggest delicacy you could ever eat. They named it, they sold it. And it wasn't until high school when I was like,

oh, a can of pizza is like 149. They just, we brought those to the canned food drive at the food place. Yeah. And so like, so, but they, my parents were always incredibly generous. Like I've just seen them give and give and give, even with the little that they had.

Yes. And so they really like set the stage for me and my siblings. I was like, we're going to be givers. Like that's just going to be part of our family. It's part of their family culture. It's been like, you know,

it's ushered into our family culture. So I try to give it, I love giving things away. Yes. So started with integrated, like went integrated, changed my life, gave it to my brother-in-law,

Taylor. And I was like, okay, I'm going to make this a yearly thing. I'm going to give him, I'm going to give a scholar TJ scholarship every year. I'm going to name it the TJ and Memorial. Yeah. And so you die defending Trey on stage. And so, yeah, now in your Memorial. Yeah. I mean, you don't think I could have taken that guy? No. Yeah. You could have bitten his ankles a little bit. Yeah.

And so I gave another one away to my friend who lives on Island Ian. Yep. And that same year, Brooke came in. I remember I was painting the room that you're staying in. I was painting that room. Okay. Brooke came in. She's like, I don't.

So Brooke is a real hero. Oh, I thought it was you. No, she comes in and she's like, I don't know. I don't know why I feel this. But like, I think about like maybe offering integrated to Brad. And I was like, sure. You were like, who? And I was like, okay. So then I text Jake and I was like, Hey, do you have Brad's number? And he's like, sure. Here it is. And then I text. And I was like, or can I have Brad's number? He's like, Brad, who? Yeah. And so then I text yeah and I was like or can I have Brad somewhere he's like Brad who yeah

yeah and so then I text you and I was like hey this is on me like no way yeah I thought it was the other way around

no yeah Brooke came in yeah and I was painting and now you're staying in that room dude that's wild so cool

so she just because she listened she was just like listening to an episode yeah she doesn't listen to every episode no she's like Brooke is a I married a quasi psychopath Cause she listened. She was just like listening to an episode. Yeah. She doesn't listen to every episode. No, she's like, Brooke is a, I married a quasi psychopath.

Um, yeah. I mean, if you didn't, what's, what's the point? Who, when sometimes driving drives in silence,

dude, I, okay. Maybe I was like, I drive in silence all the time. Oh gosh. All the time. Do you like,

who do you sit and stay? Are you friends with that guy that was sitting next to me? Like, do you ever have that moment? Just, I, but I'm never silent because I have my thoughts. That's, that's me sounding like a psychopath. I'm always, I always have my feelings inside me. What are you talking about? I talk the whole time in the car. Oh, Brad's on the phone.

There's five different people in here. What are you talking about? Yeah. And so, but occasionally she's like, I don't want to listen to music. I don't want to like, I don't want to absorb anything deep. I don't want to like learn anything.

I'll listen to Ghostbusters. I don't want to be challenged. I don't want to be like, yeah, convicted of anything. I don't want to feel like I'm worse than anybody else. In fact, I think I want to feel better than someone. Yeah. So why don of anything. I don't feel like I'm worse than anybody else. In fact, I think I want to feel better than someone. Yeah. So why don't I just pop on Ghostbusters with Jake and Brad? Why not? Sponsor my good rangers.

You better believe it, brother. But anyways, yeah. So she like, again, like what you guys do is such a gift. It's so good. Like it is just like, it is entertainment at its purest form. And so like, it is just a gift. It's so good. Like it is just like, it is entertainment at its purest form. And so like, it is just a gift from the Lord that you guys have. And so she sometimes is like, I just want that. I just want to like laugh and feel good and like smile. Yeah. You know, she's just driving by herself smiling. You believe that? Yeah. And so, yeah, she had just listened to an episode and then just, yeah, came in and asked. And I was like, all right, let's do it.

You know, like I just truly believe that like if you feel like that inkling from the Lord, if you feel like, and this is kind of like a philosophy, like I feel like he's, if I feel like I think of someone, I text them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I just think as you, again, practice that muscle memory, it becomes easier and easier.

And you're just like, let's just do this. Right. Like it's never, it's never like being obedient to sort of that like moment has always brought peace to us. And so now we just try to like follow that over and over again. And did you guys, maybe I shouldn't put this in your, maybe you didn't, but I think we've talked about and integrated before the idea of the abundance fund.

Is that kind of where it stemmed from? Yeah. So we, yeah. So we, we take a portion of our money and we put it in this fund that we, you know, wherever the Lord leads us, sometimes that's, you know, to church, sometimes that's to missions, sometimes that's to things like this. And that's just like, it then makes the yes even easier because you're like, oh yeah, that adds up to what we were trying to do. Because when you're running a business and things are going well, you're like, oh, this is awesome. But you're then now the standard is different. So I'm going to set a new standard. And so if you don't have some kind of like limits, yeah, this is how much are, you know, a plus is. So where we add this, you know, money off the side or whatever. So, so yeah, it was like, so, so then we met in Austin.

Yeah. And it was crazy. Met Ian first. He was the first one I met because he was sitting by himself and I was like, uh, I don't know. Have you heard me talk about that? No. Podcast.

Like the first time I walked into integrated, it was so like, it was like one of the, like the most, like not emotional things ever, but like the most emotional things in the last like five years probably for me, because it was like, it was like, I don't know anybody here. I'm kind of scared.

Yeah. And my dad dropped me off. Did you know that my dad, my, my mom and dad were in town in Austin, visit my cousin. And so, and so my dad like literally like drove me there and I was like,

okay, dad, bye. With my luggage, it's like walked into this place and it kind of like had to like, he's like, yeah, he gives dad, bye. With my luggage, just like walked into this place. And it kind of like had to like take a few deep breaths. He's like, here, son. He gives you a 20. Yeah.

Hey, be good to those kids. Yeah. Just compliment their shoes. That'll help you. And I walk in. You're a strong boy, Brad. I can do this. I can do this.

I walk in. No one acknowledges me. Like, no one even looks at me. And so I was like, I got to go to the bathroom. So I found a bathroom and just tried to pee. Didn't really have anything come out. I was like, well, maybe.

You never know. Yeah, got out and I was like, I'm just going to talk to the first person I make eye contact with. And so Ian was sitting by himself pretty confidently. Yeah, he's just fine yeah freaking jacked out of his mind yeah um and i was like all right i'll sit with ian and hang out talk to him because you were talking to somebody else okay and then eventually talk to

you and yeah hit it off with you forever man so um and what's crazy is like like i just love to see like go back and and follow that path of like how that happened so like we had just for one year we had 2018 was like one of our hardest years at the end of the year we're like all right we're just gonna we're gonna stop walking up like we're just going to like we just felt like the lord was just like lay it down at my feet and trust me so we did and it was like two weeks later jeff invites me to be part of this like influencer group that he's starting called the Influencer Inner Circle. And I'm like, all right, like maybe that like, let's, you know, we just did this and then this comes.

So let's like, let's see, let's play that out. Right. We go to it. It was good. It's you were, you were not even doing walk in love the first time you went to this. No, we had just stopped it. So we're like, we like when everyone went around and introduced themselves, we were last.

We were like, we are sort of unemployed. Yeah. Trying to figure out what's next for us. Yeah. It was funny. The first night we went in that I don't know why we got invited. Like this is one of those things where you're like, we don't really belong here. Yeah. You know, we're in this like, like the first night is like this dinner and Brooke leans over and she goes, we are the poorest people here. I'd rather be that sometimes than like the other way around. Yeah. She's like, I was like, how do you know?

She's like, I just help by what people are wearing. We got our clothes at Ross. What do you mean? Yeah. I was like, we can afford as many cans of peaches as we want. Yeah. You think these guys have bigger cans of peaches than me, babe?

I think we're doing just fine. Just fine. But that's how I met Trey. Okay. And then the last meetup, Trey brought Jake. Yes. And so Jake and I hit it off.

Right. And I was like, this guy's great. Oh, yeah. And so then like, like, so to think that like, Jeff invited me.

Yeah. I met Jake, met you. Yep. Then I invited you, you meet Jeff. Like, yeah, it's just so cool to just like see that sort of thing happen. Yeah. And it's just, yeah, it's awesome. In its own time too. Cause I remember there was one point where Jake texted me or called me or something and he was like, Hey, uh, what are you doing this weekend or something?

I was like, uh, and I had, I had plans and he's like, okay, I'm supposed to be going to this influencer conference thing. And I, they like everyone else is a couple and I'm not dating anybody. So I thought maybe you could be my plus one. And so I think like maybe the next year or something, I would have gone with it. And what if I would have been like a punk or like, I don't know, what if I wouldn't hit it off? And then all of a sudden you're like, yeah, but then that group kind of crumbled. Like the, the two people running it kind of had differences,

big differences. Yeah, yeah, theological differences. Yeah. And so kind of disbanded and then Jeff started integrated with Jeremy and that's been like, you know, we're we're in year five now. Oh, yeah. I think if you love ghost runners for it is

now you should thank TJ because there's so much so much of you interwoven and whatever. And, and so much of the, the, yeah, the good ranchers, like good ranchers would not be around if it weren't so strong would not be a sponsor if it weren't for, you know, integrated these different things. So, um, yeah, just, just crazy small world, man. So yeah, just the Lord blessing us and watching over us. And thanks. Thanks for, uh, yeah, I don't know. Just believe it. Thanks for Brooke. I didn't realize it was, I always,

I always gave you all the credit. I think, yeah, I'm pretty sure I sometimes don't have the best memory, but I remember painting like, yes, very specifically. I was painting that room where when you have a conversation, um, I remember I was going to the bathroom. Nice. Was it January or something, maybe? Yeah, it was like, hey, it's coming up. It was February was when the conference was, right? Yeah. Yeah, it's like four weeks.

I was like, yeah, okay, sure. My dad's going to be down there already anyway. So, yeah. So, I got to be right. Let me just text my parents. Yeah, save $25 on an Uber. So, no big deal. Integrated.

But there's always this moment, and you probably felt this when you joined, like there's always this huge moment of imposter syndrome. You walk in and you're like, you know, this guy, like people are saying words I don't even understand. Yeah.

You know, something about finances. Sure. Yeah. Okay. What's an interest rate? I know that. Yeah.

Yeah. Yep. Got it. Yeah. Yeah. A hundred percent. Yeah. But then as you go and do that

like hard thing once, it just becomes this really cool. Like if you allow it, if you step into it, it becomes this really cool thing that you just, you get so much goodness out of. You did a really good job and it's kind of like your calling card. I feel like, like the first night being like, Hey, you're going to feel overwhelmed. You're going to feel like, yep. I promise you the Lord has you here for a reason. And you said that and I was like, thanks man. I needed that. I do feel those things. And then I remember the first time, like, uh, the first conference, every time I had a thought of like, that'd be a funny thing to say, you said it. And I was like, dang, I have no role. I have no role here. I'm not,

I'm not the financial guy. I'm not a billionaire. I'm not as strong as Ian. I'm not from some Olympic wrestler like this guy. I'm supposed to be funny, and this guy's taking it already. Seat's taken. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, good times, man. Okay, let's do... I don't know how much time. We're at 55 minutes.

Okay. We're good. It's your world, Brad. I prepared a little game for us, TJ. Okay. Um, there's 40 questions. We might, we might just, we might just, so, so you, if you, if you're a patron member here on ghost runners, you know about Sporkle, we've been playing Sporkle. I've mentioned it to you the other day. I've never heard of it. Uh, yeah, you made some funny jokes about Sporkle, but you've never played it. Um, Brooke Sporkle. Yeah, I mean, it's Sabbath.

So anyway, there's all sorts of games about different things on Sporkle.com. Okay. Sponsor of the, no, I'm just kidding. But one of them is an office game. Okay. I mean, there's so many office quizzes. But you and I love the office.

Okay. And I think I want to quiz you. This one specifically is about office pranks. It says, can you name the pranks that Jim has pulled off in the office? So there's going to be these questions and it has the episode next to it. So I'll give you the episode if you need it. And then you just try to answer one way or the other. Let's do it.

Okay. There's four of them. So if you don't know it, we're just going to keep going. We're not going to dwell on it for more than 15 seconds. Okay. Don't be nervous. First one's easy. Okay. Michael Scott. Puts Dwight Stapler

in this substance. Jell-O. Very good. Helps Pam invent such diseases as this one where your teeth turn into liquid and then drip down the back of your head. Oh. It's something itis. I don't know. It's not pretendinitis. It's like... No no isn't it that

is that what it is yeah pretendonitis no i don't think that's it i think it's like hydropalasian or something oh yeah yeah yeah yeah that didn't yeah whatever i'm not gonna worry about that uh convinces dwight to hide in this to eavesdrop on a rival alliance a box yeah um in the warehouse but in the warehouse uh with Pam post this document online on Dwight's behalf, but does not include martial arts training. His resume. Very good moves Dwight's desk here. Bathroom convinces Dwight is this day causing him to miss work the next Friday. Well, yeah, he convinces him Thursday is Friday. Yeah, right. Puts twice belongings in one of these, forcing him to buy any machine classic. Yeah, that is great. Helps Dwight with

his speech by giving him examples from leaders such as this person. Yeah, we are the of time. Yeah, we're the history. Yeah, in an interview, try tries to convince dwight that dwight has used this substance marijuana yeah yeah because there's the later interview where they're interviewing him on

the like fake radio show oh right but they don't yeah he's they make him take his clothes off that is a great yeah i'm sure that it comes up eventually i think these are in like chronological order uh okay now we got a bunch from conflict resolution episodes okay replaces dwight's pens and pencils with these pens and pencils is it i don't know crayons maybe or like i don't know that one i wrote that crayons is the answer i don't know uh oh he he's he doesn't do it he's just telling the camera. He's like, yeah, yeah. Okay.

Simple macro. Yeah. All those different ones. Yeah. Pays his coworkers to call Dwight this name for a day. Dwayne. Dwayne. Yes.

Yeah. Yeah. Puts this in Dwight's office drawer to convince Dwight he's killed someone. I don't remember that one. A bloody knife? Knife? Oh, knife's an answer to a different one. I don't know that one. A knife is

like the really advanced prank where he goes on a treasure hunt. Oh, yes. Yeah. A knife. It's like in a folder. Tells Dwight one of these is in the women's room. Oh, the like...

Slasher. Yeah. No. Stalker. One of these is in the women's room. Man, I don't remember that either. These are all from conflict resolution still. I just feel like he lists them off so quickly.

Yeah. That like I don't remember all uses a macro to replace Dwight with this word in his documents. I remember that one. What's that one? Diapers. I'm pretty sure. Yeah, it's a simple macro. I just remember saying that like when you say them all in a row like this

adds these to Dwight's phone, hands, pennies or nickels or something. Yeah, nickels. Yeah, it's nickels moves Dwight's desk increment hands, pennies or nickels or something. Yeah. Nickels. Yeah. It's nickels. Uh, moves Dwight's desk incrementally closer to this machine. Facts copier.

Yeah. I don't know. Yeah. Alters Dwight's ID badge to label him as this, um, security threat. Yeah. Uh,

with Pam's help demonstrates this superpower to Dwight's astonishment, uh, like ability to move things with your mind. Yeah. What is that? Telekinesis? Yeah. That didn't work unless I spelled it wrong.

ESP or like something like that. I don't know. I spelled it wrong. Okay. Causes Dwight to fold in poker by pretending this action is his tell. He sneezes or coughs. Yeah. Every time I cough, he folds.

Repeats the prank from pilot on this new victim. Andy. Okay. Yeah. So it's Andy singing. Just Dwight. Yeah. Since Dwight,

this device, after telling him it's sold out at sharper image, the gaydar, gaydar, that was such like an insult back in the day. Oh, my gaydar is going off on you. Since faxes to Dwight,

allegedly from this person, himself in the future. you. Sends faxes to Dwight allegedly from this person. Himself in the future. Future Dwight. Gives Andy bad tips on how to woo this person. Pam. Joins Pam in recruiting Dwight for this agency. CIA. Destroy phone.

Maybe they'll send a helicopter. In the same prank, makes Dwight destroy this. Uh-oh. No, it destroys his phone. Hides Andy's cell phone here before calling it repeatedly. In the ceiling. Convinces Dwight that this impersonator is the real thing. Ben Franklin. Oh, yeah. Now I'm on a roll.

I don't care what Jim says. I'm 99% sure it's not the real Ben Franklin. Trains Dwight to expect one of these whenever he hears a chime. Altoid? Yeah. Convinces Dwight to keep this type of person out of the wedding.

Wedding crasher. Yeah. Convinces Dwight that Jim is turning into this. Vampire. I feel so strong. Yeah. Night, Dwight. Yeah, he pulls his collar up. Dresses up as Dwight and debates which one of these is strong. Yeah. Night, Dwight. Yeah, he like pulls his collar up. Dressed up as Dwight and debates which one of these is best.

Bears beats Battlestar. Bear is best. Tells Dwight the flasher is in this location in the women's room. Oh, that's the bathroom. So what does he say is in there? The mirror. The mirror. Yeah, in the women's bathroom.

Above the sink. Yeah, above the sink. With Pam convinces Dwight that this entity has become sentient oh the dunder mifflin website oh yeah the new website uh under mifflinity yeah yeah push it together takes dwight's calls by linking dwight's cell phone to this device his bluetooth yeah um uses this device to prove that Dwight steals company time. Stopwatch. Replaces Dwight's desk and chair with substitutes covered in this. Wrapping paper.

Is that the wrapping paper? Yeah, that's so good. If I could skin a mule deer in under 10 minutes. Whatever. Him falling from that and then also him getting. The balloon popped. That was like one of my first favorite scenes from The Office. How much does that cost?

It's not that expensive. It's like 20 bucks. Okay. The way he grabs this. Yeah, the way he kind of throws him up to himself and grabs him. Okay, three more. Links Dwight's computer with a red wire to this. Telephone pole.

Yeah. Wears this outfit to comply with Dwight's dress code memo. A tuxedo. And then discovers a listening device and this gift from dwight and uses it to pull various pranks the mallard yeah okay so let's try to get them all we're only missing three right now okay helps pam event such as these is yeah the the one about the liquid yeah i that dinto hydroplosion yes yeah it needs to like give me if i'm close enough it needs to dinto hydro i think it's something like that hydroplosion or hydroplosion yeah i don't know i it's that that i feel like we have it yeah that's not that just should count

uh puts this in dwight's office drawer to convince dwight he has killed someone it's like a bloody something i think bloody bloody knife, buddy. I don't, I didn't, I have no memory of that one. Sock bloody glove. Maybe it's like an OJ. Oh, it is buddy glove.

They must've cut that one from, maybe it's like, yeah, like two. Yeah. Maybe podcast. I'm just got canceled for that or something. I don't know.

Uh, tells Dwight one of these in the women's room. What? Cause he goes in there. A man? A man? No, he wouldn't. Yeah, he wouldn't tell me.

That's when he's like listing them off. Oh, and then he sees somebody on the can. Yeah. Or something like that. Yeah, I saw Meredith on the can. There's a bong or there's a- A bomb. It might have been a bomb.

No, no, that's not it. All right, I'm going to give up. We're going to see. So the first answer, dude, they should have given me that one. It's spontaneous dental hydroplosion. Still, I'm impressed. Dental. Hi. Yeah, come on. Come on. Oracle, sporkle, dorkle. What's it called? Sporkle. Well, it's more like a dorkle. Tells Dwight one of these is in the women's room. Abandoned infant. Oh, okay. Yep. Yep. He's on

Meredith on the can. You see Jim be like, ooh. Oh, man. Just good times. So, all right, man. I mean, we could talk forever about this. I think this is going to wrap it up. We're going to the beach. We're going to the beach. Thanks for listening, guys. Oh, real quick. Wednesdays. I think it's going to be a up. We're going to the beach. We're going to the beach. Thanks for listening, guys.

Oh, real quick. Wednesdays. I think it's going to be a Wednesday episode. Do you have a win of the week? We do Wednesdays on a Wednesday. My win of the week is recording podcasts with you guys. It's been so fun. I loved both of them. I loved the

literally funny, just giving each other a hard time. And I love talking about serious stuff. And so- Like screaming about candy? Yes. Or talking about something. Yep, 100%.

Like I just feel like those, that's the Venn diagram of me. It's like, I love having fun and laughing, but I also take life somewhat seriously. Right. Yeah, absolutely. So that's my win of the week. Just like having you guys here,

like it's just been, it's crazy. Again, like when we tell that circle full story that I was in the room that you're now staying in, it's just so cool. And you guys are welcome back anytime. Thank you, man. We will come. I guarantee you we'll be back unless you move. Please don't move.

It's really nice to come here and stay for free. Yeah, it really is amazing. I mean, yeah, we didn't stress about this trip at all. It was like we were going to our friend's house in like wisconsin yeah but instead we're going to white and said it's you know yeah so it's like the nicest place on earth um yeah if you guys like listening to yeah tj's tj's got a podcast of his own with brooke brooke is hilarious yep funnier than tj probably i would actually say that genuinely like they're both so witty back and forth. Hilarious. I'm going to be on their podcast. I'll probably, by the time this comes out, that was weeks ago. Yeah. Yeah. We're now we're time traveling. Yeah.

So, uh, check out walk in love. Uh, sunny Morrow is I'm so pumped about it. It's our new women's brand, women's fashion brand, everyday essentials as fun as you are, as you are. I think that's so good. Uh, yeah. Catherine's pumped about it. And yeah, man, check out Sunny Morrow. Check out Walkin' Love. And we have a discount code. I said on the last episode, I'll just keep it up for a little while. I don't know how long.

Yeah, Ghostrunners. Perfect. All one word. That's awesome, dude. Yeah, that's so fun. My win of the week. Well, we do need to talk about this real quick. So Thursday, after we record the podcast, Bethke's house.

Bethke loves to host and loves to- Yeah. about this real quick. So Thursday, after we record the podcast, Beth Key's house, Beth Key loves to host and loves to, yeah, loves to host and loves to brag about how good he is in the most like, it is like, Oh, you like that chicken? It's Bob chicken. Isn't that is my world, bro, bro. Oh, that is my world famous chicken. You love that guac right there. You love that guac? Oh, dude, so good guac. Avocados right there, dude. I picked them myself. I know how to pick them. I know how to pick them.

No, I'm just kidding. He went a little Trumpy on that one. I know how to pick the guac. It's great. The best avocados come from my house. Look at those pits. You see the pits? Great pits.

Yeah. Impeccable pits, okay? That sounds like wrong to say impeccable bits yeah i have impeccable pits on my property no one's got better pits than me multiple acres multiple acres of pits okay no he's just like all about like oh you can't do it without the hands multiple acres okay uh anyway yeah beth key all about but But one of the things they have on their property is a cold plunge tub. And first of all, I shouldn't have done it. I was like-

You weren't feeling well. No, that was probably the peak of like, man. I'm not feeling great. And I already like, I don't even know if I succumb to peer pressure. I succumb to- You succumb to hype. Opportunity pressure.

You succumb to the hype. Well, I, like earlier, you guys were playing pickleball. Is Big Daddy going to play? I was like, I can't not play with my friends in Maui. Yeah, I'll play. So I got all sweaty playing pickleball. To be fair, in Colorado I was sick. I played. Exactly.

You just got to. Yeah, that's where you and I are like the same playing. We do this. It's just what we do. You got to. Yeah, because you're going to regret being like, I just laid around and tried to get better for four days. It's like, no, you'll be fine. And so, yeah, I played pickleball. I wasn't feeling great.

Had a little bit of food, and then I felt a little bit better. And then I was like, yeah, I'll cold plunge. And I knew Bethke was like, I can't wait for Brad to get in and just die. He's going to be – and so I was like, I'm not going to give him any satisfaction. Yeah. You crushed it. Dude, but yeah,

and Bethke makes it like, you know, the battle Roy, not battle Roy, but like, he like brought every single person that was there for dinner,

you know, because there was like our families, Ian's family and Bethke's family all there. So there's like 20 people or whatever it is.

Everyone, come on, Beth! Come on, get in here! Okay, three minutes, Brad's going to do it! Come on! And is. Everyone, come on. Okay. Three minutes. Brad's going to do it. And I was like, we don't need to do that. I just was going to get in and just be by myself for a little bit. And, uh, you know, I get in just water flowing out everywhere and it was cold. I mean, oh man, it's, it's frigid. It's one of those things where like,

cause we play pickleball up there, like most Mondays and we do cold plunge afterwards. Oh, you do. And it is one of those things where like, I hate it. I just, but I get it. Like after I'm driving down the mountain, I'm like, man, I feel awake and like ready to roll. You do feel refreshed.

So I get the like fascination and the reasons and all that kind of stuff, but there's nothing fun about it. It was just painful. Yeah. And of course he was like, he's like, does it feel fine? And I was like, no, it's freezing cold, dude. Well, he gets in it and can't stop screaming. Like he's just like, it doesn't surprise me at all. But I think, I think he gathered everyone around because a few weeks ago there there was this guy there named Cam, and it was his first time ever doing it. Did I meet him? Yeah, you met Cam. And he gets in and has one of the greatest reactions I've ever seen.

I'm dying. I'm dying. I'm dying. I'm dying. I'm dying. I see black. I see black. I see black.

Couldn't. Everyone's like, breathe. Jeff's just hoping I die. Yeah, 100%. He was just hoping. Yeah. A hundred percent. Like he was just looking for that sort of like first time. You think it's like, you think, you know what to take? You're like, oh, I've been in cold water. Like I know what to expect, but it's just so cold.

Yeah. But yeah. So I think he, I think that was the gathering to just like, if you had a cam reaction, like he was like, I see spots. I see the black, the black is taking over. That's what he kept saying. The black is taking over. You can't say that. Yeah, man. Uh, I did feel my, like, like my breathing did kind of flutter.

Yeah. You're just like, I didn't even know. I was like, yeah. And then I got out and I like involuntarily was shivering a little bit. Um, yeah, it's funny. Like Jeff will get in scream and holler the whole time he's in there. And then Alyssa will get in and just be like, that explains it. This is the ladies get, the ladies get in and they go into like, I'm having a baby mode and they just like lock in and like, every guy's like, I definitely leaned into the humor.

I was like, can anybody ask me some questions? And then Catherine, you know, Catherine's whole thing with labor, whenever she is pregnant is like, oh, I can do anything for one and a half minutes. And I, so she said like, you can do anything for one and a half minutes. I was like, you hear that?

And so that was like joking around that, whatever. But then so I was like, you're like asking questions. If you are like, how cold is it? Yeah. Yeah. It was, yeah. Ian's Ian's oldest boy is like 10 or 11. He's like, all right.

Does it feel like your hands are pins and needles? I was like, yeah. Yeah. That's like a different question. Get my, how cold is it? Are you cold? So yeah, I think we may, we're going to put on Patreon eventually. I'm sure it's up there for four weeks by now, but yeah.

Yeah. Check it out. That was my win of the week slash also some highlights of your daughter's week was watching you cold. Yeah. Yeah. Last night. Yeah. So yeah. At Shabbat dinner, we say our highlight of the day and then our highlight of the week. Yeah. And Sonny's was watching you cold plunge. You made it. I was like, yes, if that's all it takes, I will do it every time. Sonny also random fact. So Sonny is your middle daughter. She's five and loves the story of hot. Oh man. She, so yeah, you had told me that story and I, I think you told me it integrated. Yeah. I think it was the first one. Yeah. And then I

told them and they were like, oh, that's funny. And so then I told you, I was like, the girls are into it. So you sent it in a voice memo and I, I, no joke. We listened to that voice memo 50 times. And then that night, we put our kids to bed. June comes out, our oldest, and is like, hey, mom, can you come lay with me? I'm having trouble falling asleep. So Brooke's like, okay, yeah, I'll come in. And they're sitting in June's bed talking,

and all of a sudden they hear Sonny dead asleep. Hot dog. And they're like, at first they're like, oh, she's awake. Nope. She's totally asleep. When it's in your subconscious. Yeah. So all week,

anytime we're in a room together, she comes over and whispers to me, dad, say hot dog. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Because the first time I met her,

I was like, oh, it's going to be awesome. Yeah. We're going to connect. But she's like, yeah, she's so shy.

You got to warm up. She's got to warm up to you. But once you have her, she'll. Yeah. Yeah. She reminds me a lot of Hattie in that regard's like, yeah. She's so shy. You got to warm up. She's got to warm up to you. But once you have her, she'll. Yeah. Yeah. She reminds me a lot of Hattie in that regard of like, like she kind of rolls her eyes at me when I ask her, like when I make like a stupid dad joke.

Yeah. But like two weeks from now, she'll be like, can you send Brad some, like, can you send Brad this picture? You know? That's so classic. Like, like, yeah. In the moment you're like, I swear they're like, you know, crazier than this.

And then after they leave, it's like all they want to talk about. Yeah. A hundred percent. Um, it's my kids. It's been fun being around your kids and, uh, yeah, fun, fun to be here. So thanks guys for, uh, listening. Thanks for TJ for filling in. Thanks for having me. It's so fun. It's, it's, I'm coming to Kansas city to record more. Come on, dude. Anytime, you know, you're, you know, you're available. Uh, mom's on Maui. Let's talk about it real quick again. Okay, so. Just a huge plug for moms out there. All right, yeah.

So men have no issues doing things that we love. No issues. Most, like if we play sports. Yeah. If we're lucky. Yeah. You know, like we'll join rec leagues. We'll play pickleball.

I play video games. We'll do CrossFit. Like we take time to do the things that we love moms on the other hand, especially moms of young kids enter a stage of life where that's really hard for them. They kind of forget who they are. They don't know if they have any hobbies anymore. They're, they're so just in the, in the weeds of taking care of young kids. And obviously as dads were helping, but it's just, I think it's just different in sort of the genders and the personalities and stuff. And so Brooke and I have always had this, like, you know, we, a big, most of our following is young women, you know, so like we're talking to them a lot of the times and, and we just have

this heart for like giving moms the ability to like kind of refresh and rejuvenate to fight the good fight of motherhood. One of the highest honors God calls us to is being parents. And so I threw out this idea one time. I said, what if I, like we were talking about like doing these retreats and this kind of stuff. And I said, what if I just left and you had a retreat here? Because Maui, there's something magical that happens when you come to the most isolated islands on planet Earth. So the Hawaiian islands are the most isolated on planet Earth. They're the furthest away from any sort of mass population. So when people come here, they just like, you're in a different time zone.

Past nine o'clock, you don't get a single text because everyone you know is asleep. And so it really allows you to unplug. And I said, so instead of doing this retreat on the mainland, which we were trying to plan, what if I just left and you have ladies come here? And so Moms on Maui was born. And it is five nights in Maui with Brooke kind of playing tour guide and host and just giving you time to just honestly let your nervous system relax, let yourself, and then also have a ton of fun. She's like, we laughed so hard we peed, like that type of vibe. Um, but it's like our ghostwriter getaway, but for specifically for

moms, specifically for moms, you know, some single ladies have applied and there'll be single ladies that come, but like, you know, like women in general. Yeah. Especially cause I think women have a harder time finding like, like Brooke always is like specifically in the church. She's like, uh, you know, I love women's events, but like, does it have to be another tea party? Like, can it be something like a little more fun? Yeah. And just like, you know, like guys are throwing axes and blowing up cars and it's like, okay, like, you know, we're sweet, you know, and she's like, ladies like to laugh and have

fun too. Like, you know, and so it's kind of a blend of all this, you know, there's some serious moments and it's like not super scripted, but it's just like, but what's really cool is we've had two of them now, both times, both weeks, both five days, at the end of the five days, different women have had their Apple Watch alert them that they have a new resting heart rate.

And that just to me is like so cool on it. And all, you know, I can send you a link to it and people can read about it, but it's been pretty cool and pretty life-changing. And it's something that I think we're going to try to do over and over again because of just like that. I think it's a need. I think it's something,

cause I think moms are like, Oh, I'll just go to, you know, target and walk around with a latte. And it's like, well, that's an hour of time.

Like, I don't know if that's going to really rejuvenate you to, you know, deal with all the things that kids bring to your, yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. I appreciate that. It's awesome, dude. Yeah. Check it out. Check it out. We'll with all the things that kids bring to you. Yeah. I appreciate that. It's awesome, dude.

Yeah, check it out. We'll put all the links down for Teej and Brooke and their awesome family. Dude, thanks for having me. We have some ghosty Walk & Love crossovers. The best fans. Oh, I know. You guys have the best fans. They're incredible.

Well, and I think that your fans your like walk in love is like the most adjacent as far as like fandom levels go yeah like that's how jake and rachel met yeah which is wild yeah um yeah just crazy that that in that regard it's it's wild like whenever we had that event in lancaster gate C or B, uh, on approach. Um, we, uh,

yeah, it was, I don't know. Like it was just like, I'm not worried about, or even like moms on Maui. It's like, I'm not worried about opening up our house to our fans because I know fans are cool.

I'm not worried about doing ghost runners getaway because I know fans are cool. Like not many people can have that kind of confidence in their fans. So, uh, it really is. If you like, if you like can have that kind of confidence in their fans. So, uh, it really is. If you like, if you like ghost hunters,

check it out. Appreciate it. So, uh, yeah, man. All right. Well,

uh, let's go to the beach. Let's go to the beach. And I always, I always say, love you guys at the end. Okay. Love you guys.

Love you guys. Okay. See ya. Every Monday morning we're taking Grandmas to the spot, yeah