Giggly Squad - Giggling about Hannah’s bachelorette party, public breakups, and Kardashian konspiracies

Episode Date: December 7, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What's up my gobs smack or gigglers? Kale, I don't know, that sounds like a weird sex move. Makes me think of Charlie and the chocolate fact. True, true. Oh my gosh, we just dropped two more live theater shows in Seattle and San Francisco. Go to our Instagram in the bio, you can get tickets. They are moving fast.
Starting point is 00:00:38 We love you guys so much and we can't wait to see you all in the flesh. I had a chaotic morning. Yeah, what happened? Okay, so we were supposed to record this morning. I woke up at... The on-guard of the hour of 10.30 AM. I literally woke up at 10.45 and I was like, this bitch. And then Hannah texted me and was like, sorry, I've had a crazy morning. Let's record tonight tonight and I was like, amazing. I went right back to bed. Oh yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:06 So what happened? Does, adorably, planned our first ever Ireland trip. And it's okay. Tonight, 9 PM, we have a flight to leave for a week and then we might try to go skiing for the first time. We've been so excited for this. I gotta call Saturday that I potentially like have an offer, a soft offer for this like project in LA.
Starting point is 00:01:33 That would take a week. A flaccid offer. A flaccid for a good opportunity in LA that is the week right in the middle. That I was supposed to be around. Isn't that always the way? And this is not the first time this has happened to us. So I'm like fuck, I have to tell Des that I'm just running everything. So I'm like, hey, and he was very supportive. And he was like, you know what, don't worry. I'll fix it.
Starting point is 00:01:59 But they said Monday we might find out, but we haven't found out yet. But he was like, you know what, you're not going to Ireland. There's an eight hour time difference between Ireland and the LA. You're going to be here for four days. It's not worth it. Like we'll do it another time. And he's like, you should cancel the flight. And this is like 10 a.m.
Starting point is 00:02:16 And you know, I'm not in my right mind at 10 a.m. Who was insane? He even speaking to me at 10 a.m. Yeah. And that you were computing it in your brain. I wasn't. He had booked to me at 10 a.m. And that you were computing it in your brain. I wasn't. He had booked the flights, because he's really good with like Delta,
Starting point is 00:02:30 Delta one, Delta Sky Mile, Silver, whatever, CPGs. Wait, can we just go on a tangent for a little second about men and any flying app? Men and an acronym. My acronyms. Someone once asked me what my MQMs were on my Delta app and I said don't ever talk to me again. Like are you asking for my breasts? What are you talking about?
Starting point is 00:02:54 Yeah, I was like, how rude. How rude of you to just ask me about my MQ? I'm a C during my period. I'm a B. I'm not. Leave me alone. He goes, okay, you have to cancel the flight He's like I did all this stuff. Can you just cancel the flight? I was like easy peasy lemon squeezy
Starting point is 00:03:14 He's goes, but we can't I couldn't figure out how to do it on the app you have to call someone and I go okay That's an issue because I don't I don't there's so many of these companies you have to call you You just rather get on the flight. Yeah This point fuck the gig even like someone like, oh, I sent you mail. I'm like, if it's mail, I throw it away. OK, I've also been getting someone else's mail, and I've just been throwing it away. I thought you were like, I've been opening it, and it's wild.
Starting point is 00:03:37 No, because he has the other thing. Opening someone else's mail, how would they know that it's a felony? How would you know? Yeah, I mean, I've got to your list of reasons you're going to be arrested some day. But anyway, I try to call and immediately they're like, there's a 45 minute wait. And you know that we're recording giggly squad at 10 45 and you know, I have priorities. So I said, fuck this hung up. And he went out to walk the dog,
Starting point is 00:04:07 thinking I'm like being a good little girl waiting. They can call you back. Yeah, but I'm not having them coming back during you. Okay, squad. Oh, right, right. I want a lot of of of glitter and the week. Yeah, yeah, I wait for this moment. Yeah. Size therapy. That's nice to thank you. It's my therapist. So many things. So I think I'm savvier than I am and I'm like, he doesn't know how the Delta app works. I'm gonna go into the Delta app and figure out how to cancel my flight. So I press modify and it was like, now you need to call someone. I said, fuck that. I scroll the bottom and says, cancel. And I'm like, so proud of me. I figured it out. I press cancel and then I was like hmm and it says like continue and I click continue and suddenly Everything is canceled gone
Starting point is 00:04:56 My heart starts beating and I look at it. I canceled his flight too. Oh He's still going he's still going. He's still going. OK. And because he has some gigs in Ireland and to get his flight, he had to give some certificate. Like basically it took him hours to do this. So my heart starts beating and I was scared. Yeah, no, that's terrifying.
Starting point is 00:05:21 My heart starts beating. You immediately go into a cold sweat. I go into a cold sweat. And I hear him come back from walking the dog and he's like, how's it going? And I go, can you check your email? I think I canceled the flight. He's like, oh my God. Yeah, because, okay, so then...
Starting point is 00:05:45 Because not only did I ruin the vacation he planned, but now I'm ruining his trip. And now you're sitting waiting for that phone call for 45 minutes. So I did what a mature person does because he was like in shock. And I was like trying. I start crying and I leave. like I literally had to leave that house As you I jumped on a flight somewhere else But I like went for a walk and I immediately start like Trying to get Delta over text and I'm like it's an emergency my fiance is going to kill me
Starting point is 00:06:18 I'm getting a divorce. I need you to respond like I was like one of those crazy people on So apparently you can and someone's like hi it's Sheila how can I help you and I'm like literally with the last that's a cucumber I was rage texting Sheila I was like she like get your shit together but again this is not a drill Sheila this is code blue and we have I'm like to do girl the girl we fucked up we She like I did together so I'm wage tech I'm to kill a Katie texting she loves yeah, yep I wasn't threatening her but I was like this is serious. I don't care who else you talk to is really she Finally she's like okay, I can get you a flight
Starting point is 00:07:03 But again, I don't have does this information. I'm just trying to get a flight. So I run back to the house and I'm like, I'm getting a flight, I'm getting a flight. And he's like, let me see. And he goes, you're about to buy another flight for yourself. Stop it. Just stop.
Starting point is 00:07:16 All right. Are you okay? Because no one here anxious. I'm the person who when I'm anxious, like let's say you realize you're on the wrong subway, I'll get off and get on another wrong subway and make it worse. Once I start spiraling, I just can't.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Yeah. So he had like a come to Jesus and he was like, I'm not mad at you, but you are incapable of admin. And I now need to know that I have to handle this forever. And we have a lesson here and I'm starting for getting upset. But that's when I texted you and I'm like I'm not in the rate I'm fine to record
Starting point is 00:07:49 Kiki's got right now cuz I'm stupid I was a jet too stupid to record Kiki's got this morning. Oh my god. Okay. Okay, so we know that you'll never be someone's personalist is done Never And then when I be over like booked a flight for AM when it's supposed to be PM, like I do that shit every day. I was an assistant at one point in my life and I booked my boss on the wrong flight and she was like, we don't live in Texas. So it's quite easy to do.
Starting point is 00:08:26 But while I was having a chaotic mental breakdown, you were having a jolly day. Jolly. I went back to sleep for 30 minutes, had some morning sex. Oh, what about my day? You know, it was like, oh, I love when we do nighttime. I got one of the
Starting point is 00:08:46 best text messages I've ever received this week. And that text message said, hey, should we just go to Miami for my bachelor at party? And tears of joy filled up my eyes. And I thought to myself, how did I manifest this? You did manifest it. I did. You did. Because inside, and I didn't tell you I was manifesting it. But inside I was like, a petting zoo, how about a Miami boat day?
Starting point is 00:09:19 How about we go to a strip club and eat steaks? I was on breadcrumbing all my friends, like throwing stuff out there. Sierra was the only one who was down to do a petting zoo. But your reaction when I threw Miami out there was next level where I was like, oh, that's pure joy coming from her. And she doesn't get happy about truly anything.
Starting point is 00:09:42 I made a Pinterest board. I am starting an Excel Spreadsheet. I need everyone's names. They're hat size. But also this is not a page. Page is the friend that like she might show up. She might not. She rolls in. Yeah. When I got that text message, I'd immediately texted one of my girlfriends that lives in Miami and was like all the best hotels right now need them and she sent me a full list And I was like great. Thank you. So that's she basically goes I can help you plan anything you want. I've never heard that from page Usually, I'm like just show tell me what time to be there and like when to show up cool, but I was I'm taking point on this.
Starting point is 00:10:25 She wrote I think I wrote I think you're going to be in charge of Nightlife slash being sluts. She's the chief slot officer. I can't. You're just going to be yelling at everyone to just get their slot together and then you go like that skirt up. You go well this escalated quickly. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:41 No literally that was my text back. I was like this escalated. Then I said, I give of Nicole Richie getting arrested on simple life saying, loves it. I can't wait to be so drunk on the beach and be snucky. And just like, where's the beach? And then you wrote, I'll put all the subtitles together. And club experiences.
Starting point is 00:11:03 I don't know what that means. Club experiences, what is that? As I was typing it, I was put all the subtitles together. And club experiences. I don't even know what that means. Club experiences, what is that? As I was typing it, I was like, who am I? I meant like, I was gonna give you clubs and then what each club vibe was. So that like, if you wanted to go full-hore, we could go bull-hore. Or if you wanted like, a lounge vibe with like,
Starting point is 00:11:23 some sparklers, we could go lounge-y, a but like I feel like we're doing it. Then you write, this is when I knew Paige was out of her sane mind. She wrote, I might make an Excel spreadsheet sheet. You wrote Excel spreadsheet sheet. Well, because I want, I need everyone's name, everyone's sizes, I need, I need a lot of things, I need like their email addresses, I need, there's a lot of things that go into planning a bachelor at party that I quickly realized.
Starting point is 00:11:55 But this is the thing, do you really want to be the point person or do you want to be like the nightlife club person? Cause I will give you all that power, I just don't want to feel like I'm making you because I have other people who are like, oh, I'll do it. Actually, a lot of my friends are, I think because they know that I'm incapable and we know what happens when I'm in charge of admin. All of my friends have been like, we'll do it Hannah.
Starting point is 00:12:16 Look, my power point presentation is halfway done. Like, why we should do the things that I want to do. And I also have aesthetic vibes. We're never supposed. The first night is like we have something matching on, but it's like hot matching. And then if we do a boat day, that's when we do matching colored bikinis because pictures. And if anyone is against this in the group email,
Starting point is 00:12:44 they might get cut. They might get cut. It's like, oh, we actually can't accommodate you. You're gonna text me on the side, be like, hey, I know you've been friends with her for 12 years, but her note on section two, PowerPoint B was unacceptable, and I'm not gonna be able to work in this environment.
Starting point is 00:13:01 But also, yeah, I'm not doing fucking sashes. I'm not doing like the script. And for people who are listening, it's because you guys did it already that I don't want to do it. You're not chugging because you did it because you've done it so well that I'm like, we can't. I want to have it. And also, it's such a good group of women page.
Starting point is 00:13:20 It is such a good group that, like, I can't. Oh my god, I forgot one person. I forgot one person. But, no, it's okay. It's cute. Just create a whole new thread like we're doing after the first time. Oh my god, I feel bad.
Starting point is 00:13:35 Anyway, I also feel like we need like a Mexican theme tonight one night because you love Mexican food. Because you love having diarrhea. I want you to actually shit yourself on. How do you feel about like a stripper pull class? Is that chugi? Like I could see you quitting two minutes in and that makes me laugh. If they could come to, okay, that depends on what hotel we stay at and like what the sweet situation is.
Starting point is 00:14:03 Like if we can all go into your like sweet and do a poll class, I would be down with that. But like if we have to wake up on like a Saturday morning and go do a stupid all morning shit for sure. Or it could be fun if we like all learned and hip-hop dance and then performed and made a music video. I'd rather go to the pettings now. I feel so, you know how you never have all your friends together?
Starting point is 00:14:29 I feel like it's that power puff, like, light, fire, air, water, and all my most powerful friends are coming together, and I'm like, literally scared, but I'm like, we have to fight the patriarchy. What are we going to do once we're on the same room together? Like, crazy shit. We could do... We could do a music video on the boat, yeah. Also, like, my warning you, my friend Becca from college is so funny.
Starting point is 00:14:56 She gets all excited and she's like, oh, my friend is learning how to play piano. I'm gonna learn to play saxophone, so by the time it's your bet your up party, I can run around with a saxophone. And I was like, perfect. I've never heard anything like that. Oh my god. Check that off my list of finding a saxophone player. I just like to get the lights around it like they do with the clubs and she's like, done. So if you see us in Miami, we are making a music video Be in it if you want. I could also see us
Starting point is 00:15:27 Planning too hard and then we get hung over after first night and then every I could see that also like me just in my room getting another IV which I think We're gonna look at all good Saturday morning IV Saturday to go on the boat. My mom was very surprised. She thought it wasn't like me and I was like, no. Do you know what I was depressed? When you're depressed, you don't want to do anything,
Starting point is 00:15:54 might as well go all the way to Miami and force people to do it for you. But it's not like you, but I also feel like so far in your wedding aesthetic you've ended up liking things that you never thought you would like. So far I said I wanted a pearl I went with a diamond I said I wanted you've almost wanted you almost got two diamonds. Almost two I wanted a garage wedding now I'm on a garage wedding, now I'm on the Pacific Ocean. Atlantic, you're literally getting married at like a yacht. I mean, it's you guys, you don't think, don't fucking act like you know me.
Starting point is 00:16:35 I don't know me. There will be a cowgirl hat situation once you have one point. I mean, we could pretend we're in different places, like we could just pretend we're in Nashville one night. We just keep saying Nash Vegas everywhere. From Nashville. Nash Vegas. And I was like, this is Miami.
Starting point is 00:16:50 And we're like, love Nash Vegas. I'm gonna hire a blimp. And do something. This is why you shouldn't have money. This is why. No, I can't. I can't. This is why God has kept me humble,
Starting point is 00:17:02 because I would have outlandish things. I would have literally a lion. But how do you actually feel about one night? We all get wigs and I hate wigs, so we have to make sure it's one that I feel comfortable in. Because I know you naturally like I you know some people are happy people like you're wearing a hat right now and you look like a sexy mysterious video producer. I wear a hat. I look like a kid in Little League who just got beat up. So when it comes to wigs, I always feel stupid, but we're all gonna get our wigs and we're all gonna come up with new identities and accents. And accent, you don't have to nail it.
Starting point is 00:17:37 It's actually funnier when you're bad at the accent. And then we are going to go out. And we're gonna like talk to everyone. And I wanna be Russian. Yeah. I think I'm gonna be like, I'm gonna be like British, but like from the countryside, you know, like trashy, like I don't even know like, like I'm gonna know like, Poshes and I've been there.
Starting point is 00:17:56 I don't even watch Love Island, cause I don't have cable, I'm playing with goats. I just like goats. Where's the petting zoo? Yeah, something like that. I love that. I'm gonna be a Russian spy. Your name will be Sylvana. What's like a not-posh name in England, Pam?
Starting point is 00:18:16 No, Pam is your name. My name is... A not-posh name in England. My name is Linda. No, my name is Linda. No, I feel like those aren't British names. Something like Suke. Suke. That's not a British name.
Starting point is 00:18:34 My name is Ringo. We're going to be banned from my am. In England. Any hotel. We should pick a hotel that we don't really care about because we will be asked to leave and never come back So it has to be one that I also think I just want to do two nights because I Go hard like when I'm on I'm on and I can only be on for about a night and a half. Yeah So this is yeah, yeah, that's why I think like a really dope club night.
Starting point is 00:19:07 I feel like Craig just left. The whole thing was scary. I can hear the crouched door. She's busy, I'm leaving. And then I feel like I want to do a boat day. I just feel like nobody is ever on a boat getting drunk with their friends and has the thought like I wish I was somewhere else. Well can I tell you something also? I've never been on a boat trip. I know. Here's the other thing in Miami. You can literally go,
Starting point is 00:19:37 I've never been to Vegas, but you can go to Miami and wear a bathing suit everywhere to dinner. you can go to Miami and wear a bathing suit. Everywhere to dinner. Yeah. And no one says anything. Yeah. It's not the fashion capital of the world. And people do dress good in Miami. But what I enjoy is that they dress up.
Starting point is 00:19:57 Like they're full hair extension. Oh, I'm going to bring my ponytail hair. I thought people would dye their hair pink You're gonna bring my ponytail here. You're gonna bring my ponytail here. You're gonna bring my ponytail here. I saw people who died in their hair pink, like J-Lo did it, and then some other people started doing it. And like, it's art Basel right now in Miami, which if I used to not be at that, it was like social suicide for myself.
Starting point is 00:20:19 And then this year I was just like, oh my God, I am an adult, because I actively chose not to go. Yeah. And so I'm, but usually I love like a Miami trip and this is, I'm putting all my energy into this. I'm more like an art, a recanel kind of girl, but anyway. Wait.
Starting point is 00:20:38 What? Did you watch my story the other day? Because I learned that Ben Affleck is six, five. Yeah, I knew that. You did know that. Yeah. Okay. Wow, I have a follow-up.
Starting point is 00:20:56 You knew that. And then still thought that they were a fake couple. His height has nothing to do with whether we trust him or not. Short and tall guys lie. Right. I think J-Lo is a catch and I think Ben Affleck is a catch. I have a celebrity crush on Ben Affleck. Maybe so consciously I'm jealous or something, but I just think that it's been pushed in our face more than like reality TV couples. I just feel like, oh my god, did you see Raquel? That was like my only note for today.
Starting point is 00:21:33 That was wild. I kept thinking it was like a... Wait, I'm more thought. Yeah, we have so many things. We have so many things. We have so many things. And then you forget all of them. Okay.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Re-bending Jen. Yes. I just think it makes a lot more sense on why she would go back. Oh yeah. Ben is hot. Ben has a great personality. Does have, you know, some skeletons in his closet, some ex-wives, children, and a Phoenix back tattoo.
Starting point is 00:22:01 But. Yeah, the back tattoo is a bit much, but there's laser for that. I can totally see them together. I just don't like how they're forcing it so much in the public eye. I don't think that's healthy for a relationship necessarily. I get that. I get that. But speaking of relationships in the public eye, we have to discuss with Helen James, because I don't care how you feel about them. Vanderpump, this relationship has been around, it created, it's not Vanderpump, this relationship has been around, it created, it's not about the pasta, this relationship, you know, it's been a part of all our lives.
Starting point is 00:22:30 I will say, I have not watched any Vanderpump this year. I just, same. I just can't get into it. So I don't know like the storyline. Like now I, this actually has making me want to go back and actually watch the whole season, but we always talk about people that put crazy captions for their significant other,
Starting point is 00:22:54 but we never talk about people posting about a breakup in a caption. And do you think about it? As a public couple, you owe that to people. Yeah, like do you have to tell people you broke up and like why? And is it different because they're on reality TV and it's not like an actor?
Starting point is 00:23:20 That is so many good questions. First of all, the first time I kind of dated a guy and the public eye Was a couple years ago and he kept me a secret because he had like crazy fans or something and I kept him a secret because deep down I knew that we something was off even though I wanted it to work And I didn't I never posted him because I didn't want to have to explain when it didn't. So breaking up was actually so much easier because I didn't have to think about the public eye. And it wouldn't have even been that many people,
Starting point is 00:23:50 but it's basically like a couple on Facebook that post all the time and then they go silent. Yeah. And they're also controlling their narrative. Instead of someone else being like, we're killing James or out, this is what they said, they say, please respect our privacy, which means we're not answering any more questions about it.
Starting point is 00:24:04 This is what happened. And they get to come up with privacy, which means we're not answering any more questions about it. This is what happened. Right. And they get to come up with a story. But that's a problem with the public relationship when you break up. Either they control the narrative or you. Someone's something's going to be said. It's never like a secret. You don't just one day appear with someone else. I think when I broke up my when my last relationship ended, I didn't even have a thought that was like, should I put up an Instagram story that we broke up? Like that didn't,
Starting point is 00:24:33 oh yeah, did you never have to do anything? I never addressed it because I just, I addressed it months later saying like, we're not together, but like you could tell from our Instagrams we weren't together. But there was really no, like, okay, let's just say like Craig and I break up. I don't feel like I will ever would ever say something on Instagram. And that's just my gut feeling because like when Perry and I did break up, I never was like, I'm gonna write a paragraph and post it on my story with a black background.
Starting point is 00:25:12 Because you and Perry were, you were public like you posted photos with him, but imagine like for so many years you're posting about your relationship as if everyone's in it with you. Like, so you almost feel indebted that like all these people who have been through so much with your relationship, it's like a nice thing to be like, hey guys, I've been through all this with you and I'm just going to give you the respect to tell you we're not doing this anymore. Yeah, like my thing, like if doesn't I ever broke up, the incredible response we got when we got engaged
Starting point is 00:25:45 of like, it was insane. I never even knew people loved love that much. That alone makes me feel like if we broke up, I'd have to be like, hey, hey, come on. I'm again, so funny, so weird, so crazy. Um, as a people, please are like, even doing a wedding like offer but you get divorced like I feel so terrible just for that Not even myself just for the people, but it's a party whatever If you and Des ever get divorced I Want you
Starting point is 00:26:19 I want you to tell people on Instagram by just posting the video of Kim Kardashian. And it's like, don't you think I'm sad? I had him move here and we fell in love and we had a wedding. And don't you think I'm sad? I just didn't interview with this girl Lauren DIY. Oh yeah, yeah, how is that? She had so crazy. Someone was just talking about her. I never know.
Starting point is 00:26:45 She's like close craftopia. She's like a DIY enthusiast who got big and then started to have a YouTube relationship with another YouTuber, which turns out is arguably as fucked up as reality TV where you control your narrative more, but they have their own narrative too that they're doing on their channel. So when you break up narrative more, but they have their own narrative too that they're doing on their channel.
Starting point is 00:27:06 So when you break up as YouTubers, you have to do a breakup video where you both sit down together after the breakup and cry and tell everyone what happened. And she was like, I felt like I should do it because she's like, you know how editing works. We would do a day trip and we'd post all the cutest moments and then people would just legit like, dying like, I can't believe in love if this couple didn't work out. And it's like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:27:33 because you really saw the most beautiful moments. If you knew the truth of a relationship, you'd be like, yeah, that was going downhill from day two. You know? Here's how I feel about posting the like, that type of video. Look, there's certain things that like you know happen in everyday life, like every day,
Starting point is 00:27:52 I'm probably gonna wake up and like drink a coffee and then run to the bathroom. And that's my morning routine. You know that that's happening. Do I need to post that to tell you that IP every single day? No, obviously every couple fights. Yes, do I need to post that? You definitely don't need to post the details at all.
Starting point is 00:28:15 I guess because they're YouTubers like they felt, but also they have to protect each other a little because they don't want the other one getting mad because they could say whatever, it's just a fucked up situation. But, where Kellen James decided to both post the same paragraph with no, and shut off the comments. What do you think about that? I thought, I like, I actually liked that they posted the same paragraph because it was like, okay, this is really really, really cute.
Starting point is 00:28:46 Oh my god, that's the cutest breakup I've ever seen. I just, I like that they posted the same paragraph. That didn't bother me. It was the timing. Everything was so quick. It was like, you saw it on the gossip blog because it was like, they might have broken up. Oh, they broke up at the reunion. That's also known as talking about that.
Starting point is 00:29:08 That's wild. Wait, they broke up at the reunion. Is that's what people were saying? Because they just filmed it. Well, this is what kind of upsets me because it has me thinking about relationships and being in the public eye and how they got engaged and everything was good and then their van der Pump
Starting point is 00:29:27 is airing and you know that causes drama and it's like they're watching it and getting frustrated. And they're getting frustrated. Like it's possible the show was like the last straw because the airing of a show when you're in a relationship is brutal. Let's say the show is fine, but just having so many people in your DMs
Starting point is 00:29:48 being like, oh, Rakell doesn't like you. Or like, oh, James is mistreating you. Or like the constant people just tearing apart your relationship. And one thing might hit a sensitive part next thing you're fighting. Based on somewhere in the person's message whole there's a whole reddit thread And I know I shouldn't be on reddit, but sometimes
Starting point is 00:30:11 Sometimes I get a real kick out of it One time I went on reddit and it was just like a whole thread of like people hating me and I read them out loud to my brother and We have never laughed harder in our lives because usually like the only person that makes fun of me in my life like to me is my brother. These people are good damn. He takes a nap. Literally. He was like, wow, I just thought that one.
Starting point is 00:30:36 I was wearing like a yellow outfit and someone called me like a yellow diaper baby. There's probably so many people that are like DMing him and being like, she's the worst. And DMing her and being like, he's the worst. And it's just unless you have your own opinion on what your relationship is, I mean, look, Craig and I talk about it all the time. That like, yes, we are on reality TV together. Yes, we have to watch certain things that are uncomfortable. Yes, we'll have to do that for like a little bit
Starting point is 00:31:06 But we always look at each other and say like this is real life and Like are you good and we talk that is I think one of the number one things that's great about our relationship is We talk about everything to the point where I'm like I didn't need to know that you slept with this girl Five months before I mean that you know, like I didn't need to know that you slept with this girl girl five months before I mean that. You know, like, I don't need to know everything. But I've done a lot of interviews with like bachelor couples and I'm like, how do you guys navigate when like your relationship is like liked by the media or like your hop by the media? First one is not or like when people don't care about you anymore because you have your real relationship and then
Starting point is 00:31:42 you have how your relationship is being perceived by fans based on how it fits into the narrative of the bachelor. So because sometimes like you're the it couple and then like a year later there's another a couple and like are you guys still as into each other? Yeah. Even though your relationship might be the same but also your relationship stemmed from that energy of being an it couple with lights and cameras. And it's a wild fucking ride because it's hard to decipher in the beginning. Like, is my stomach excited because of just us?
Starting point is 00:32:14 Or is it like the this excitement that's surrounding what we are? So true. So fucking true. Like, okay, for my birthday birthday Craig didn't post an Instagram story People lost and people wore like you murder your dog people were freaking out and I That whole day Didn't even really look at Instagram like wasn't because I was flying to Charleston
Starting point is 00:32:42 I knew that we were like having my favorite place for dinner. Like I knew what I wanted to do on my exact birthday that day. And we were sitting on the couch and he was like, wait, are you mad? I didn't post for your birthday. And I was like, we just had sex 5,000 times today. I'm like, it's fine. You didn't even put up an Instagram story.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Like, but no one would get it. Can you look at your phone instead of me, please. Yeah, like it's just, it was like, I don't know, it was just so weird to date someone in the public eye. So I feel bad for her too, because I also just feel like Rakel is genuinely really sweet. Like I've never met her in person, but like just watching the show and like following her on Instagram, I just feel like her energy is really sweet. Like I've never met her in person, but like just watching the show and like following her on Instagram, I just feel like her energy is really good.
Starting point is 00:33:29 So I feel bad for her that she's going through. You bet you know what, I've met James a bunch of times, I met Rekal once and she was very, very nice, so, so charming and smiley. And James is a fucking character and I really like him. But I'm proud of them, because I don't know the details, but I'm so proud of people who end engagements
Starting point is 00:33:51 or end marriages, like they should be so proud that they made a decision to make themselves happier. Because it's not a flex that you're staying in a relationship, that you're not happy in, just to say that you're in a relationship. And I want, and it seems like they both were unhappy.
Starting point is 00:34:09 I mean, they were fucking struggling from the get-go to fit in with the friend group. Like, it seems stupid, but when it's magnified to a huge audience, it's a lot. Like, for example, even not to get too personal, but people are judging you in Craig's relationship when they've never even seen you guys together as a relationship, just from what they know of you guys on TV shows. Or people judging des from two episodes of a show, and they know all about whether me and him are good for each other. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:45 And that's crazy. Really sick. That's why I don't feel the need, like if Craig and I broke up to ever say something on my Instagram, because I feel like my Instagram, like keyword, it's mine. So like I post what I want to post, and usually it's like cute shoes.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Well, for example, like James and Raquel, on November 10th, they posted like him kissing her and another post together on November 2nd together. Another one of them kissing October 21st, another one of them together on the 19th. So it's kind of like all his content is them together. So then it's kind of like, hey, we're not, we're not posting stuff together.
Starting point is 00:35:23 But when I saw it, I actually had a very positive feeling where I'm like good for them. If they're like, hey, we're not posing stuff together. But when I saw it, I actually had a very positive feeling where I'm like, good for them. If they're not gonna, and this is our mental health moment, let's de-center the importance of relationships equating success. Now that was like a lot of like mumbo jumbo words I just used, but let's stop equating being in a relationship with meaning that you're successful.
Starting point is 00:35:45 Because a lot of people are in shitty relationships. And it's actually not that hard to get into a relationship. Does this try to escape behind me? You literally have to. It's a real relationship. It's a real relationship. To tell you that I have to go to Ireland.
Starting point is 00:36:00 Oh. So you're so good at relationships. I'm leaving you. I'm so glad the flight worked out. Wait guys, do you want a moment? Do you need a moment to go? I don't like for real. No, it's okay. It's fine. And ladies and gentlemen, that's a real relationship right there. Imagine if it's flight got canceled. But moral of the story is, if you put all this importance
Starting point is 00:36:30 on being in a relationship, then you start not having a sane framework of like what you want. Because you're doing it all for that relationship. And then I can see on your second relationship. And then you'll stay in it too long because you equated it with success. When actually you'd be doing so much better alone. I will say I am since I started dating, I am a relationship girl.
Starting point is 00:36:53 And I know that about myself and it took me until my 20s to like know that my late 20s. When I get into a relationship, I put everything to the side and I'm so focused on that relationship and it's so hard to break out of that cycle because you're like, this is very important and this, you know, I'm in a successful relationship whatever. And honestly, until I had a long distance relationship,
Starting point is 00:37:23 could I balance that? And I think it's because I go back to my own apartment, I know that I'm there for a certain amount of days. And it's like, the shit you have to do, rather than like consuming every single minute and every single day with like who you're dating and what they're doing, like you lose yourself and you don't even realize that.
Starting point is 00:37:44 You're learning that you're capable of still being yourself while having just a guy there as well, but he isn't the center of everything. Right, which is super, it's super powerful when you love them, but you don't need them. Do you kinda get what I meant about that from before? Which sounds so fucked up, but it's actually not. But it's not. It means you really love them.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Because if you need someone, that's codependency and that's like more complicated. But if you love them and just are choosing to be with them, it's like a cat. Like my cat does not need me. She chooses to sit on my lap. And that is what I fucking love. I also think that's attractive to guys where they're like, wow, I'm more attracted to her because she just wants to be here But like she doesn't need me for shit. Well, Des is dealing with unique experience where he's always been the traveling comedian who like girls would kind of change their lives For that. Yeah, like he's the busy one and the girls kind of waiting on him
Starting point is 00:38:42 We're now I'm saying babe babe, that vacation you planned, I can't do because I have a gig. And he's learning, he's probably getting a little karma from his early life, but he's also learning how to navigate if you want to be with a woman who has her own shit. We're gonna have to deal with these crazy things that happened this morning. Granted, I am worse at admin than most people,
Starting point is 00:39:03 but then I also have to make decisions because sometimes I'm too independent where I will always make decisions for my career. And then he's like, hey, you have a fiance. And then I'm like, yeah. Oh, but I thought that's great. That's one you move around. But the relationships are ongoingly reminding them,
Starting point is 00:39:20 like you're still the one that I wanna be with. No matter how, just because you have a ring doesn't mean that you guys are just officially together forever. Like you have to continually as my mom's water the blanket. Yeah. Yeah. It really is. And let's be honest, it's only downhill from here for both of us. There was a moment where I was like, wait, so you never have like, I feel like you and Craig are in this real, like, hot and heavy obsessive each other. We're
Starting point is 00:39:49 official. We're dating stage, which is so fun. And I was talking to my mom, and I'm like, so does that just always die? Like, does that die? It actually evolves to something that's really deep and special where it's like the most deep trust and comfort. Yeah. Which is just a different kind of beautiful love. Because sometimes that early love is like chaotic. It's a lot of jump in and moving. A lot of thrust in and out. It's a lot of stuff. But I will say with Craig, which this is the first time I've ever done this, is our like courting stage and our talking phase was a lot longer than anyone I've ever dated. And so are like-
Starting point is 00:40:34 You kept it in your pants? No, no, no, no. No, but I'm saying like our like single phase of like we're talking, but like we're also doing our own thing but like I really like I really like you and I like hanging with you but I'm not ready to like stop doing whatever was very long and so I feel like our honeymoon phase was pretty long too is pretty long like it's we're still very much in it but like This month specifically and I think it's because we were with our families back to back It was not like it took a turn where it was like oh, we're not like hot and heavy anymore
Starting point is 00:41:16 But it was more like this is like some real shit like we have to have a real conversation about this particular situation So like let's really talk about it. And it does evolve, but then you do have this moment where you feel so much more connected and you're like, wait, I've never wanted to have sex with you more in my life because we just had a really crazy conversation. You're so much better when you know that they love all of you. It's so different. It's so different. It's so different.
Starting point is 00:41:47 This podcast has evolved so much from beginning. And I think also for people to remember that relationships, every relationship is imperfect because we are imperfect. Like we are finding the right imperfect person whose imperfections want to fuck our imperfections or they like yeah it causes us to fight but you're like good at fighting. Yeah like one of my biggest fights in my last relationship was eating in the bed and literally like if I wanted to go shaball
Starting point is 00:42:18 not negotiable yeah and literally I ordered something the other day ordered Dunkin Donuts and I went downstairs to get it from the front door And I was like bringing it into the living room to eat it on the couch and cry I was like, bring it up to the bed and I was like, wow, I've never loved you more than in this moment Like it's just the small things. Oh God Anyway, now I'm craving fucking Dunkin' Donuts two for one wraps That's what I got. Yeah
Starting point is 00:42:50 They're amazing incredible. And you feel like a healthy because there's a wrap Like there's no bread in this. Also, there's something I know that you don't drink ice coffee you drink ice-tries I've been doing ice coffee too. Now, I'm full while. Because this is like cracked out on coffee at like 10 a.m. and I'm like fine, give me a hit. You literally just... You never smoked weed in her life. Does coffee now.
Starting point is 00:43:17 I do coffee so I don't know if you guys heard. Okay, well, because cracked drinks iced tea. The iced tea at, is spectacular. Very sweet. He loves it. He loves it. Very sweet. I get it on sweet, not too sweet.
Starting point is 00:43:34 I don't understand how you and him drink either. Tell him the Starbucks is better. However, the green tea latte. Tell him to fuck with that. Tell him to fuck with that. Ag Duncan. Something's going on in Charleston. I have like certain complaints about Charleston.
Starting point is 00:43:49 None too big. This one is pretty fucking big. Craig's kitchen is getting read done right now. So we have no like appliances or like things that we can like use. So like we literally order everything. Okay, bitch. Stop asking really things. We're gonna use an appliance. Do you even
Starting point is 00:44:05 know what an appliance is? You couldn't even name an appliance. You just said, you know, things you would use. Stove. What are you in a appliance? Name an appliance besides a microwave and a stove. At Air Fryer. And that's because you're turning 30. Anyway, continue. And that's showbiz, baby. I know what your complaint is. I know what your complaint is. Every restaurant that we order from, I'm not kidding.
Starting point is 00:44:35 Every single one. I order an iced coffee. Not once. One time has a show now. It's like Charleston gets your order from UberEats and if you order anything iced, they're like, fuck you. And they just don't get it. We're new York, they're like,
Starting point is 00:44:50 they'll do anything to make it work. They'll take Saran rap and fucking rap. That shit up, you can't even open it. They figured the fuck, they put it in a shoe box to get a sock, they figure it out. That's what I'm saying. Also, I went on to UberEats the other night because it was like 11 p.m. It was a Saturday night
Starting point is 00:45:07 I was feeling myself. I was like let's get some burgers. I went to get burger king It said you can suggest to Uber Eats to put this in your area and I was like what in the 12 are we living down lobby with my local politician to eat a big Mac. Are you fucking kidding me? Is that America? Do I not have fucking rights guys doing down here? Yeah, what are you doing? It is funny the tiny little cultural differences also like does everything close at 11 God forbid you're hungry at midnight little midnight snack. Fuck you. you're going to bed hungry. Fuck you, you got no appliances. Yeah. Wait, why does Craig not drink coffee?
Starting point is 00:45:51 He doesn't really like it. He drinks a lot of tea, and then when I get a nice coffee, he's like you, and you'd get a chai. And I'm like, this tastes like a Christmas tree. You know what he's like? It does. It's not like a full-on milkshake. Yeah, I think it's good.
Starting point is 00:46:05 I think it's good. I also like these drinking ice chai and a sombre. I respect that. Well, they don't have real seasons down here. They think they do. Oh, true. They don't. Oh my god.
Starting point is 00:46:14 OK, let's do some front-page news. OK. Do you have anything besides the same number, Carol? What? This is perfect like segue and segue and I love and it works out like this we have t-shirts coming out we have t-shirts coming out and we like called the people that do our merch and we're like hey we say things and like right off the cuff and like we need a shirt that says it immediately. I saw on Instagram today that Pete Davinson has taken over the Calvin
Starting point is 00:46:48 Klein Instagram. I saw that and he's like, I'm here, like as if it's Pete's Instagram now, so they want people to follow as if they're following Pete. I've never heard that in a branch strategy before. Well, because he doesn't have an Instagram, which I respect. I know, it's so hot. It's so hot to be that famous, that Instagram. Well, you know who else doesn't and we love, is Jennifer Lawrence. So if you go to the Calvin Klein Instagram,
Starting point is 00:47:19 they're following one person and it's Machine Gun Kelly. And Pete Davidson is, yeah. You think they're gonna do a whity-tidy photo shoot with machine gun. I think they're doing a collab. How do you think Travis is feeling? I mean, I just think it's crazy that you called. You were like, Kim is not letting all of this attention go. And you nailed it. You really didn't know I was skeptical and I thought you wanted it. And you're fucking right. You did fight me because it was a hot take But I just felt like Kim's like if these two could do it
Starting point is 00:47:50 Your girl who's the most interesting to look at could do it and she picked I would say that he is having such a moment right now He is like probably one of the most famous comedians Right now it is kind of annoying that throughout his life though of the most famous comedians right now. It is kind of annoying that throughout his life, though, he has increasingly steadily just dated girls who are more famous and more famous and more famous and more famous and more famous.
Starting point is 00:48:16 You know, it's crazy. It's crazy. Finish your thought then I have. No, just that like he started with Carly Aquilino, who was like a very successful comedian, then was like, yep, Kazie David, who's incredible. He was cute. And I also heard he like proposed,
Starting point is 00:48:28 he might have proposed to either of them, like he's very into like falling in love and intensity. That was a rumor. I think he, I think you're right. I think he might have proposed to Cassie. Then he starts dating the actress, oh, then he starts dating Ariana. And then he like, doesn't really date the actress it
Starting point is 00:48:45 He tried for Cape Beckins whatever and then he did like you just keep going but the thing is Margaret who's after cam Hillary Clinton Literally Martha Stewart No, he'd have to go completely rogue and go to Lexi have to go completely rogue and go to Lexi? Yeah, someone that was super fit like Madonna. He'd have to do something wild. He'd have to break up Britney's marriage. Miss Piggy? He would be too much.
Starting point is 00:49:17 There's no going on from Kim Kardashian in terms of like fame level. But here's what I wanted to say. Imagine if the roles were reversed. And there was this girl. Oh my God. And she just kept dating more famous and more famous and more famous. They would rip her apart. Rip her apart. She's a social climber. She's a real career. She's not talented. She's not talented. She needs to latch on to someone else to be relevant. She's not even that funny.
Starting point is 00:49:48 And he's getting praised. I would also would argue that as you get more famous, there's a comfortability of dating someone who is familiar with the attention you get. So you don't a feel like you're forcing someone in a spotlight they didn't want to be in. And b, they also know how to navigate it. So I could see as you get more famous while you're forcing someone in a spotlight they didn't want to be in and be they also know how to navigate it. So I could see as you get more famous while you're with people of similar fame. I also have a conspiracy theory. I'm into it. You know how the Kardashians are like really famous obviously and they have like niche things that they do. Yeah. Like there's a Kylie makeup, there's the skims, there's Courtney doing whatever Courtney does. I have a feeling that they like try and dominate
Starting point is 00:50:34 every single sector of fame. Like I have a feeling that like when Courtney was really good friends with Addison, right? I have a feeling almost that they were like, they paid Addison, right to hang out with them to get the Gen Z. To get the TikTok. Well, yeah, where is she gone? Yeah, it's almost like her contract stop.
Starting point is 00:50:59 And she just like doesn't hang with her anymore. I thought your conspiracy theory was that we're all living in a simulation Kardashians app. Here we are. No, we literally are. But continue, you're right with the sectors. They're hitting baby. They've hit jeans. They've hit makeup.
Starting point is 00:51:14 They've hit skincare. They've hit video games. They've hit. They haven't gone into music and movies. They haven't gone in that is the one thing they have not gone into. But I almost feel like Pete is a small segue into it. Well Kanye yes and Pete is comedy. Travis is also Blink 182. I'm forget. So they're hitting they're doing music right now. They're doing music. They haven't broken into movies. Yeah, like scripted.
Starting point is 00:51:46 Um, but anyway, those watching movies, let's be honest. We're watching dope documentaries. We, we have to talk. No, we have to talk about it. We're flowing today. We are flowing. Hannah, I watch, I start, I'm also notorious for starting movies and being like, whatever I'll fall asleep and like watch the rest of our night. I started King Richard at midnight. Same. I cried. I don't know. I could not imagine how you felt watching it like because you've like felt
Starting point is 00:52:21 moments like that. There were so many moments where I got chills and cried. Also, Will Smith is so good in every fucking movie. We need to stop talking about his dick or talk. I'm like, I don't want to know about Will Smith's personal life because he's such an eye-catching actor. I'm like, you guys are keeping his brand by telling me anything about his relationship with Jada.
Starting point is 00:52:42 I don't care if his wife won. Leave Will Smith alone. Everyone. I don'tada. I don't care if his wife and wife is just a different person. Live Will Smith alone. Everyone. Yeah, I don't care. I don't want to know. Will Smith is literally an artist and he is so fucking good at what he does. Do you remember the way we're talking about King Richard, you guys? Do you remember the William sisters coming up at all?
Starting point is 00:52:59 Like what is your experience living with the William sisters? I remember being younger and seeing them, because one of my cousins loved tennis, and that was the only view I had into it. So I remember watching them play doubles together and thinking, oh, how cute, there's sisters in real life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:21 And that was really all I knew. But, so I had no idea that Venus was actually better than Serena. Growing up, because she was years older. Yeah. They would play each other in finals. And the public was convinced, because they'd never play as well when they played each other. And the public was convinced that Richard would just tell them beforehand, like Venus gets this one, Serena gets this one. And they like to save their, their list or hood. Because like, there's so much money on the line and like he didn't want it. It was awkward because these two sisters.
Starting point is 00:53:52 Honestly, that's smart. And I've had friends do that. Like they'd just be like, let the older one win. Like let's not cause drama. But Serena, this is the most beautiful thing about it that they didn't talk about. Is that Serena's I, 39 and Venus is 41. And Venus, even though she's losing like second and third round, her health is not that great.
Starting point is 00:54:12 She's still playing. She still loves the game, like just to play. Where most girls, like, they hit the number one ranking and then after a couple of years, they retire because they're like, I got my sponsorships, I'm rich, I'm out. I mean, Naomi Osaka wants to quit tennis. She hates it Yeah, let's be honest. Yeah, we're serena's 39 and still trying to wait
Starting point is 00:54:29 She's trying to break the most grand slam record ever won by any woman in open air like serena's the greatest whoever did it I love them. I love them. Wait was that girl a real tennis player the one that was like Jennifer Cappy a real tennis player, the one that was like Jennifer Cappy, Capriotti. Jennifer Cappy was, I loved her. She was great. She won at 15 years old, but then she kind of got into drugs and partying because she got so famous and she had to go to rehab and people kind of talked about her like,
Starting point is 00:54:57 this is why you shouldn't get girls and to professional too early, but Jennifer had a comeback. She did well, retired, but no one's been, what Serena is. It's so crazy that people said like their dad was kind of like an asshole in certain situations and like watching the movie, some of the decisions he would make, I'd be like, oh my god, he's going to ruin their career. This is going to be awful.
Starting point is 00:55:19 And then it turned out to be the right decision. Like when Venus was going to sign the Nike deal for $1 million. $3 million. $3 million and then she got it for 12. So yeah, Venus got offered $3 million. These parents have made no money from her. And this is the moment, imagine you've made no money and finally Nike, who is the number one tennis sponsor
Starting point is 00:55:40 that you want, is like here's $3 million if you sign today. They said no, because Richard believes in her so much that he and then it's a year later Reebok gave her 12 million dollars. It's just crazy. It's such a good movie. But those two girls were so naturally talented and they overcome, it became so many just biases and obstacles that I mean Richard is the king of manifestation the king of manifestation
Starting point is 00:56:12 the king of manifestation of his daughter's lives and it came true they both are like a big reason why I want it to play tennis because it has main character energy it is the most main care and or golf or golf. But I love golf too, but tennis, the way that you control the point and I could run around because I was a hyper crazy little kid, like I just love how we both love tennis. I love tennis, it's so sweet.
Starting point is 00:56:39 This is a tennis podcast you guys. It is. It really is a tennis pod. Anyway, so we highly recommend King Richard. Also, oh, hi, Butter. Venus has her own line of tennis clothing, which is really cool, and Serena is doing a whole bunch of shit. So it's cool to see how their lives have progressed
Starting point is 00:56:58 since just being tennis phenoms, but- And it was sweet to see how much they loved each other, no matter what, and how proud they were of the other one for their success. We have hit our time. We have so much more talk about, I guess, next episode. And just want to remind you guys, San Francisco and Seattle, we are playing theaters, bringing the Giggly Squad live tour. Check our Instagram link. We're going to get it up on our website. Thanks for giggling with us today. Bye!

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