Giggly Squad - Giggling about mean girls, Selena, and feminism

Episode Date: February 28, 2023

We do a deep dive journalistic analysis into the Selena/Hailey feud. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

I'm in the day just got away from me. Oh my gosh, welcome back to Giggly Squad, the ski podcast, specifically opera ski. Specifically, I broke my hand, specifically does, will never get a good hand job again. I, for some reason, feel like we haven't recorded in a really long time. Like this just seems like it was a really long week and I think it's because you're injured. Like I was also feeling the pain of your injury. We've been in this together.

I've been taking it for granted. Everyone out here with the dominant hand that works Go to sleep tonight and just fucking be thankful. I have been doing things like around the house normal things Like going to the bathroom brushing my teeth and you have popped in my head Like you know how I'm all about de-centering men from my life I have to put my tail to my legs to the desk, and ask him to open every single bottle, squeeze my toothpaste, like take my shirt off, which is kind of hot. But let's be honest, I never gave a good hand job anyway.

He's like, they're always better at it. I'm not trying to compete with them. Right. I've been like kind of in a bitchy mood, because like, you know when you like, your friend will show you and or drop something. Yeah, like and that's annoying. Imagine that happening 500 times in the day and you're just like, I can't fucking do this. And then today I ordered an eggplant parmesan for before the pod and I was like, you need your hands for it.

Like the first, yeah, I know. And it was like going to be the first dopamine hit of the day. And it comes with no pasta. And I was like, is somebody fucking with me? Like you had to order it extra or they just, like it came in the meal. And there wasn't even an option. It was eggplant Parmesan entree. And all it came was eggplant. Yeah.

I, I, I started to cry. I was like, I've been there so much and I don't think he deserves a share I love when it's like the smallest thing But it's just a culmination and you're like and this is what did it? I didn't know I would go down For the eggplant, but this is what's doing it to me. Also, I just randomly decided to go off my birth control. Not for any specific reason, I just was like, I'm done.

Yeah. So I think I've been, I started spotting today, so I gave myself PMS, mid month. How many days have you not been on it? Like five, and I got my period today. It's like, yeah. I really want to go off mine too, but I like I can't. You can't do.

Don't you have like real reasons why I have to be? I have to be. Yeah, I have like legit reasons. And not that like not wanting a baby. A legit reason, but like. What is it you have like, I have cysts on my ovaries that like the birth control keeps them small. I love how you've made this about you when I'm going through a lot with my hand right

now. You got to bring in your fucking cystic ovaries to make me feel small. I was on the phone with Sierra today and I was telling her something and then she goes, oh, but back to me for a second, can I ask you? And then she asked her, like, said a story about herself. She goes, sorry, I didn't mean to do that. And I was like, I'm literally the last person you have to apologize to.

If I can find a way to make it about me, I'm gonna. And she goes, yeah, no, you're right. My favorite thing is to be like, look, enough about me. What do you think about me? Oh god, anyway, can't do we just get to it because my FYP is blowing up to the point that I'm starting to get annoyed But and I called you and you were like it's my FYP too. So it was the whole world stuck in the hailey called you and you were like, it's my FYP too. So it was the whole world stuck in the hailey, Selena, and then throwing Kylie drama.

I think Chris Kardashian's also behind the bold, beauty filter on TikTok because my four-year page is either people doing that filter, or Haley Selena Kylie. Wait, that's a genius conspiracy theory and 100% would believe it. I believe that. Who are they paying to just post and be like, this filter is the amazing. Like you've never seen a filter before.

But your video with Craig was so funny. Did you see my comment? What, I think so. What did you say? Now he looks Italian. Yeah, he did kind of look Italian. He looked hot. I kept seeing the, like everyone doing that filter.

And my favorite videos were the girls that were getting on and being like, no, this filter's crazy. Like it's so bad for our mental health. Anyway, I just wanted to come on here and like jump on real quick. And like go into something totally different. And I was like, this is the internet though. Like you have to give like, hey, I'm not a bad person,

but also I am gonna use the fuck out of this filter. Your mental health is your own issue and I will be dealing with mine with this filter. So. Yeah, they're just like PSA, this is not what I look like, but honestly, it is what I look like right now, so fucking deal with it. Okay. First of all, I'm not even gonna ask what side you're on

because I have not taken a side. And there are a few main factors. But I think before we get into really like how we how we feel about it, we need to do a certain timeline for our for the gigglers because not everyone has TikTok, not everyone is really in tune with it. Some people only get their journalistic news from Giggly squad, which as they should. As they should. I mean, we're only we're only non fake news on the planet, guys.

Keep it. Fucking for real real real recognize real But yeah, let's let's break it down. Okay, the gigglers Let's start right now. I'm not gonna like dient or your dient or you're it and like give you dates for everything because well I don't know dates for everything, but let's just start with they to meet up. Yeah time is awesome Taxes and time made up things. When you walk into our cult meeting, like that's the banner. It's going to take us four hours to get through the helicopter job.

I'm just in a laughing mood today. Okay, halian Justin date. They date for, I don't know, six, four, four, six or eight years. Something crazy. Wait, no, you mean Selena and Justin. Selena and Justin. Selena and Justin. Sorry, we're all together. This is why I have you here at my co-pilot. Just testing you. I was testing you. Okay, so Selena and Justin date for a really long time. And when they're young, so you know that that love,

he's a different type of love. That's your first love. They just got to show me seven to yes. That is, I don't know if they were virgins when they met each other, but let's just go as far to say, they may have lost their virginity to each other. Like that is how pure that romance was

Up until they both became drug addicts, but that's a different It's a different time. Yeah, like when you first fall in love with a man like he's he's what you saw in movies like This is your prince like and and everyone put them on such a pedestal as a big couple for so many years We start to see videos which I didn't really realize back then we're going like Everyone put them on such a pedestal as a big couple for so many years. We start to see videos, which I didn't really realize back then. We're going like, let's go back like 2014, 2015-ish, when Selena's hanging out with that group of girls.

So she's friends with, it's the Hedids, it's Kendall, it's Haley, Kylie would pop in and out, but it was mainly all the models plus Selena, which I didn't know that they were friends. Now, there's reports saying that Kendall and Gigi went to Dubai for one New Year's Eve. They brought Selena with them, saying so that Haley could hang out with Justin

for New Year's Eve. Now. Why did that make my heart just like, draw it into my pussy? The internet is giving those girls a lot of, like, what is the word? A lot of, I mean, it's a strong accusation. Yeah, they're giving them like a lot of,

what is the word? A lot of power. Yeah, that they like concocted this story of like, we're gonna take something you need to do by so that like, what are they sex traffickers? I don't think that when people like say that something was like so manipulated, I'm like, let's, like Selena's not a dumb, dumb.

Right. They're giving them a lot of credit. That like, there's a lot of alleged, you guys. Allegedly. What people are connecting dots and they're smoke, but we're trying to figure out what is actually fire. Then, and this is all when Selena was on a break with Justin. Then, Justin, let's fast forward to Justin and Selena

break up allegedly, Selena breaks up with him, they break up and get back together all the time. But one of the breakups was because Selena saw text messages on his phone that he was hanging out with Kendall Jenner. In a romantic way. Oh, I didn't know that. So that has ever been confirmed, but like they were spotted out together, they like, whatever. This is all why Harry's dating Taylor Swift. Okay.

Yes. Well, because yeah, Taylor is essential in this narrative as well. Taylor was one of her friends too, but I guess Taylor never fucked with the genders and stuff. Not to mention that Taylor has also at one time been accused of being this ultra mean girl who has all these minions around. Now all of a sudden, some times gone by, now all of a sudden she's on the nice girl. So the internet is just internet-ing, you know? Like they're doing their thing. Selena and Justin break up for the final time. Now there's all stories that like,

oh, Haley used to drive by Selena's house. Haley was obsessed with Selena. We're gonna get to that in a minute, because they do think that's important. But they break up for the final time, two months later. Justin proposes to Haley. We cannot just like ignore the fact that that is insane.

That is insane. I got engaged in six months and that was insane. So two months at that age. Right, but you didn't have a long-term boyfriend and doesn't have a long-term girlfriend. Well, we don't know about a second family, but it's- He has a second family, but it's... He has a second family.

But he has also his old, he only has so much time left when you just speed up the process. But you don't know a man in two months. Also, I mean... Do you ever know a man? But also, it's giving, it's giving PR, that Justin was in a bad place. He had the worst reputation ever had.

Let's get this marriage to this girl. I wish Hayley was like, no, I'm not gonna marry you. We haven't even touched on the fact that you, this is happening to your friend. I, well, that's why I'm trying to stay on bias. I bet I'm looking pretty good right about now, huh? Okay, can I take you back as my bestie? I'm sorry. No, but the thing that TikTok is doing is they're putting together all these like TikTok is brainwashing. Montage. It's a full documentary where they're basically making it like she's single white female crazy, but not even obsessed with Justin,

that she was obsessed with Selena, that she copies what she says. She copies her tattoos, she copies her ring, her outfits, and at first you're like, okay, people wear the same outfits, everyone has the same stylist. But you start seeing like a lot of things. A lot of things.

And here's the one thing I did think though. Like at the time, we're going really back far in history. Like, we kind of are because when Selena and Justin dated, Haley was only like 12. So are we gonna get mad at like a 12 year old for being like, for tweeting? I love Selena Gomez. Like, I'm finding it hard for me to get like,

okay, she's a stalker or she's just a 12 year old or she's being 12. I guess she was like a fan girl, but at the end of the day, she's a fan girl who comes from a famous rich family who wants her to be with probably a famous guy. Like she always dated famous guys like Cody Simpson, some other guy, I don't know.

Also, they're both pretty famous in their own right, but Selena is apples and oranges to Haley. Selena is a actress, a singer. She has a makeup line, like she's in movies, she's in TV, like full company. She's a full yeah like Selena is a list Is an a list superstar all because of Selena? Hailey was is a nipple baby who has tried for years to like PR PR PR like no I'm just like the cool it girl. I'm a fashion girl. Ooh, try my nails. My nails are the new it thing.

No, Haley's nails were the new it thing because she has great PR. But like, Selena has great PR too. So what we're seeing on TikTok of like all these conspiracy theories is 1,000% not what's happening. Like, not at all. I bet they're both fucking nutty. And I bet they're both have done shit to each other and our mean girls. And I bet they're both fucking nutty. And I bet they're both have done shit to each other

and our mean girls. And I bet they're both have their teams on the line like posting shit. I don't think to be watching videos of, oh, Haley Bieber so ugly, look at her. When she was 14, everybody was ugly at 14. Like now you're being crazy. I do have to say all the stuff I'm saying on my timeline is making me upset. Like it's

giving me like a visceral reaction of like the intense bullying and I understand like if someone did something like so fucked up but like these are a lot of reaches and I'm not defending Haley completely or I'm not defending Haley. I mean either. I'm not defending Haley. I just don't think shit is black and white, where like unless you fucking know that someone is like such a horrible person because I've done something to you. If you don't support someone in this age, I feel like unfollow her.

Don't buy her stuff. You don't like her, but you don't have to like attack her online. Right. That's the thing that I... Like, oh, now we fight bullying with bullying. I just feel as counterintuitive. This one girl, Jade Samantha, on TikTok came up with this very interesting... I like people taking the conspiracy theories. I mean, we're making up our own cosplay.

We're literally having fun with these imaginary... Right, no, we're literally doing the conspiracy theories. I mean, we're making up our own cosplay. Like, we're literally having fun with these imaginary... Right, no, we're literally doing fanfiction. It's like playing Barbie dolls. Yeah, and like, she's with him. Yeah. It literally feels like that, but she's like, Hailey, you know, will never be Selena. She'll never be the first love.

She'll never have the start-up or talent of Selena. Selena, even like, the one thing she has over Selena is that she's a model. Selena gains weight because of her loopess and stuff and she still is jealous of Selena and Haley all she has is her looks and the man but like at the end of the day being pretty by society and having a man does not make you happy. Right. You have to actually love yourself and if you're always comparing yourself to someone else who has other things But again, we don't know shit. You kind of know how I'm big on energy Yeah, I don't get mean evil vibes from Haley now. Do I get mean vibes from Kylie?

I sure do So like the all the stuff, that was Kylie. Like, Haley didn't even say anything. But in defense of Selena, I will say, I did think it was very interesting that when Selena's documentary was gonna come out that Haley went on call her daddy. I do think that timing was a little bit,

that was PR, that was like, hey, I'm in here too. When Selena wrote the song, you replaced us in two months and then Haley posted on her Instagram story, like a song that says, and the title of the song was All Kill You. I think that's funny. Wait, I think that's comedy. Also, if we're looking at friendships,

especially female friendships, I've had friends who are like, have always been nice to me. Yeah. But you know that like, they could turn on you any second. Yes. And sometimes they do, sometimes they don't.

So it's like, we all have those people who like, they're so fucking good to you. But like, if something happens and they don't like you anymore, like they'll be horrible people. So like, even you'll talk about celebrities like, like I heard about James Corden. Yes.

Apparently it does monster things in public. I've also talked to people who worked with him, like wrote for his show and they were like, he was so nice to everyone. Yeah. So it's like, we can all go around, try to save people or evil or not. If there's enough stories, it turns someone's probably an asshole.

And it's just, I don't like the whole black and white internet thing. I just get worried that like for people's mental health, like I'm actually like a little worried about Haley right now. Yes, and I mean, I'm sure she's having a hellish, hellish time. What do you think her PR is doing? What are they gonna do? I'm gonna go, okay, it's a small hiccup. It's just a small hiccup. I mean, Selena's following is growing at a rapid rate.

We are watching that, but I don't know. I think it's all gonna die out. Like, I don't think that anyone, they're ever gonna address any of it. And also, you have to think that Salinas like 30 and Haley and Kendan, all of them are like under 25. So she's probably like, I don't, we're not even in the same realm.

Like I don't even, I don't have beef with them. And like the internet probably perpetuates it. Like I wouldn't be surprised if like some text messages have been thrown out being like, hey, I'm cool, like the internet's fucking nutty. But like I don't hate you. Like I guarantee that is happening.

I mean especially like I've had reality TV instances where I was fine with someone and then the internet got all into it and suddenly they're like, they have issue. And you're like, but we were good before the public started like talking and accusing things of stuff. And also like that video that was circulating of Haley Bieber saying like, oh Taylor Swift like she did like eh with her mouth like saying Taylor Swift songs.

Like that was a scripted thing, I think. Like she was on an appearance. He mentioned Taylor Swift and she chose to do that. Like she was putting a digger Taylor Swift and it was probably during a time that people it was cool to hate Taylor Swift. Yeah, like she's not cool to jump on those bandwagon, but then Selena commenting, that was a match to the flag. Yeah, that was kind of fiery, because she like that video then resurfaced.

Here's the other thing that we're getting into. Now we're judging full grown women on shit they did when they were 15. Like that, you're gonna now hate like this 24 year old girl, because when she was 15, she said, eh, I don't like Taylor Swift, so did everyone else at 15. Like, that doesn't make her a psycho,

that doesn't make her the worst person in the world. But also part of me is like, this is some old shit. Like, it's so funny it's happening now, like Justin Haley been married for so long. Right? Do you think that Selena and Haley are our generations, Jennifer, Aniston and Angelina Jolie? Yeah.

Because you think there will be a time where Haley and Justin get divorced and he goes back to Selena. Shut the fuck up. Okay, I need to get my cholesterol down because I needed a lift to see this. Cause like imagine in like 10 years we're like, guess who's together? And then like our kids are like,

who are these people and we're like, no, this is massive. But also as someone who knows reality TV, we are so invested in these people's relationships. When like, I didn't tell you, you don't know what's really going on in these people's relationships. But then all those videos going around of like,

the paparazzi, like those awkward moments of paparazzi and just like shutting the door on her. I feel like they're so accidental, like paparazzi is so fucked up and like Justin's obviously in a shitty mood and. And I'm sure, here's the other thing. I'm sure the behind the scenes is so much better than what is happening.

Yeah, there's probably real fucked up shit that happened. What's going on? We aren't even touching the surface. What's going on in real life is just so, I bet so much juicier. I know why I'm upset. Why? I know I am upset because I know for sure.

The only thing I do know for sure is that Haley looks at all her online shit. And based on how we met. And I remember thinking girl, if this video got you upset, I can't imagine how you cope with like actual like hate campaigns and stuff. What is getting me upset is that Justin Bieber not a single thing has been said? I was gonna ask you, do you think he should say something? Like what would you do if you were JB? Or do you think he loves the attention? Do I think he, no, I don't think he should say anything. Like I think that neither party from any side

should ever address or say anything. Like the internet will be over in a week, like it'll be dead. But I think it's so crazy that nothing's being said about his role. Like, okay, he was the one that was dating Selena and they broke up and he is the one that proposed to this girl and probably said some of the craziest shit she's ever heard in her life and she was like, yes, this is what it's supposed to feel like. He moved on. He met me. It all clicked for him. Of course he wants to marry me in two months. I'm perfect. He said I'm perfect for him. Nobody's bringing that up. Nobody's bringing up the times that Selina and Justin broke up

because he was probably fucking, yeah, he probably was fucking around Kendall Jenner. Like, no one's bringing up that he's probably the reason that Selena Gomez had to go to rehab. Like, no one's bringing up that, why are we fighting over this man's? Why are we fighting over Justin Bieber? Let's fight over Ashton Kutcher or John Hell. I just, it makes me so annoyed when the guy just gets so, gets away with it because it's not fun to like,

because they're not fun. Well, because, no, because you know what's more interesting? Girl drama. Yeah, girl's like a guy being an asshole. Yeah, it's just classic. We expected. It's the norm. If I had a nickel, we didn't even address how it started. Like the eyebrow thing. I actually did not understand the eyebrow thing. Do you think, do you think that Kylie Jenner saw the video of Selena Gomez where she accidentally laminated her eyebrows too much, and that post is directly a response to Selena making fun of her?

But this is my thing. Let's say you hate this one girl and she posts an embarrassing thing about her eyebrows. What kind of person goes, well, look at my eyebrows. Right. What? Right. I don't, I didn't put that two together. Of course, you have nice eyebrows. You're a Brazilian heir.

You probably got them done four times last week. Right. But I do think that the video of Haley, Kai, Kendall, and Justine Skye doing, I'm not saying she deserved it, but God's time. And it is always right. Yeah, like how would that have been in response to Selena Gomez's paparazzi pictures in a bathing suit?

She's in the comments like, it was a coincidence. When you're at this level of fame, you have to know what you post has consequences. Right. But what was the coincidence? Like, I don't know. The coincidence? It could be just like the biggest reach, but I guess that like all these photos came out

of Selena in a bathing suit, like not looking like herself, because of her lupus medication. Yeah. And I mean, I thought she looked gorgeous. They thought that literally. She was like happy like in this gorgeous white bathing suit with her booty out.

And they thought that them posting that was them being like, you deserve those pictures to be leaked. But giving the three girls saying she deserved it, just saying she, it makes us feel like, are you talking about Selena? Again, we might be gaslighting ourselves. No, I feel like we literally are gaslighting ourselves. Here's the other thing.

If my boyfriend of like six years broke up with me and then in two months was engaged, I'm probably gonna do some crazy shit too. No, no, no. But also, we don't, for all we know, Selina's like, thank God, she made that guy. Thank God. Thank God.

I tried, I tried, and that man, I mean, I'm the honest. Yes, it looks stressful. It looks like Haley's always on edge. You ever have an ex-boyfriend and you see, like there's two types of ex-boyfriends. Like you see your ex-boyfriend with his new girlfriend and you're like, oh man, like that, you feel a certain type of way about it.

Then you see your ex-boyfriend with his new girlfriend and you're like, I hope she has a good friend. Like I, you almost like wanna reach out to her and be like, girl, when it's your own free child. You want to be like, hey, if he starts making you feel like it's you, it's not you, you're smart, you're beautiful. Don't worry. Oh my God, I've had that so many times. You want to grow and see him and be like, it's not you, you're not the crazy one. Okay. You are not the crazy one. And the best is then people will sometimes think like that you're jealous so you miss that person. You're like, that is so funny because I am thinking

all the lords above. Yeah, my favorite meme, I think Sierra actually sent it to me recently. It's like somewhere my ex boyfriend is telling his new girlfriend that I was crazy and she's thinking she found the one two idiots. And like, that is just also, here's the other thing. Selena and Justin dated years ago. Like years ago. Yeah, they're not even the same people. That would be like, that would literally be like my high school ex-boyfriend,

girlfriend, being like, pages, I fucking hate page. She like, nobody's spoken in five years. Like, don't, we don't have to, I'm not a, don't count me in on this. Like, I'm out. So Selena's probably frustrated too. You know why marrying someone after two months is so insane, because you're still in first date energy. For sure. Like, I'm still laughing at all those jokes. I'm still trying my hardest. I'm still pretending I'm perfect.

I am first date fake energy. Two months in, girl. It takes, you don't even have your fight until like four months in. They say you can only fake something for it. The max up human can fake something is three months. I know it. I've literally, I've looked at this up.

I've known this fact for years. I know, I don't know why. So you have to wait till three months before you're with someone. Guys, I'm not saying she's not a mean girl. I'm just saying I don't think anyone deserves to be hated by millions of people online. I also don't think she's that mastermind to have this whole entire plan and play. But also she could because usually the only people that are hating are people that are doing.

Less. And Selena's like, okay, literally all you have is the man. Like I could have had a man if I wanted, but I chose to be an a-list celebrity and be richer on my own. But also, I don't like to compare women like that, which is like what the internet is doing. Like, well, she's better than her

because she wanna Grammy or whatever. But ultimately in my experience, the girls who have been mean to me are people who are not happy with their own situation. But either way, don't go on people's TikToks and comment and be like, you're disgusting. Like, who does that? Yeah, that's not good karma, that's not good energy,

that's not good vibes. And also, I'm gonna say, I still love both of them equally. Like, I'm that's not good karma. That's not good energy. That's not good. And also, I'm gonna say I still love both of them equally. Like I'm not gonna not like them. I mean, I'm, I'm just eating my popcorn in the back. Yeah, like I don't, like I fucking love Selena Gomez. I have no personal, I mean, Haley and I are very close, but I have no personal vendetta against any of them. And I think they're both badass. I do think the concept of Mean Girls is so funny because we are the generation that grew up with the

Mean Girls movie. Yeah, we started that. So I think that's why it gets thrown around. Like the Regina George shit. I told you when I first went to high school there was like a group called the Lucky Seven and I like knew one of the girls from middle school or something and I was like hanging out with them and she's like, you're not next on the list so like you're not gonna be in the group. Like it was like kind of like a thing that girls were doing. They were giving themselves names and then like kicking people out of the group. But I have to say those girls who were a popular like that cared that much about being popular. Like that was, they peaked in high school.

They peaked in high school. I literally have made a whole career of being crowned a mean girl. Like people, people also give me a lot of credit too that like I'm in charge of like manipulating like seven other women and they all just listen to me. Like I'm a sleepy, sleepy girl. I'm also kidding.

I'm also in bed, 90% of the time, which is another reason people hate me. But like the thing with you is because you're actually annoyingly pretty, people are first not going to like you. And then you actually have like confidence in your funny. So people, you have like power because people want to be around you. And then I feel like you're actually so nice to literally any girl and you'll fuck with anyone who fucks with you, but you're not gonna try

with people who have done messed up stuff to you. And then it's so easy to call your mean girl. Well, I'm also so good at being like, and I get her numb, I don't fuck with you. Yeah. And people take that as mean girl, but it's like, no, I literally I don't fuck with you. Yeah. And people take that as mean girl, but it's like, no, I literally just don't fuck with you.

But also, you're nicer than me and the fact that someone could do something so horrible to you. And if they went up to you and they were like, hey, I'm really sorry, you would be like, it's cool, let's hang out tomorrow. We're like, if someone fucks with me and then it's like, I'm so rude and it mean it, I'm like, I can never trust you again.

I'm better at being fake nice. You're so hard, and it mean it. I'm like, I can never trust you again. I'm better at being fake nice, just to get it moving. Whatever's gonna get me closer to the bed, I'm down. I'm like, oh my god, so great to see you. I have the best. I've been like hanging out with someone who murdered, like your best friend, literally. But you're like, do you have any funny TikTok videos?

Like, you're so chill. you have any funny TikTok videos? Like you're so chill. And I also, I don't think, like, mean girls is people who like to like get together and attack someone. And, like, puts it, formulate a plan to take someone down and it's just like, if you think that we have the admin admin to literally research anything. You, you got the wrong girl. But also mean this is also thing with mean girls.

Mean girls will start shit. I'm provoked. Like they'll just start being mean. We're like yes. If someone's mean to me, I will respond to it and be like you ow that was me that hurt my feelings But like mean girls will just start shit cuz they get off on making people feel bad about themselves They'll uninvite people the things they'll you know start talking bad to their other friends about them They'll fucking do shit online about them. That's mean girl shit. That's mean girl behavior

I have done some mean shit because you did something to me first. Yes. I don't think that's mean girl. That's really just me being like, here's a taste of your own medicine bitch. No, that's not mean girl. That's called having self respect. Yeah.

But yeah, I, you know when you're just going through life and then a girl, like you hear someone saying stuff about you or like you got uninvited to parties and shit and you're like oh they hate me and Now I don't know how to act what I do with my hands what I did, but it's there. Oh shit There is nothing like a revelation of being in a group of girls and you like it clicks in your head Where you're like I don't think this bitch likes me very much. I feel like that's happened to me in college and stuff where your force to be this big girl gang and you're just like, everybody loves everyone

and then you just catch a vibe and you're like, that bitch does not like me. And then you're, yeah, and then you're so awkward. And then you get called fake or something because you're like, hi, Becky, so great. And they're like, Becky, you don't like that. That's just you try not to have drugs, that's not you being fake. You're just like, hi, Becky, so great. And they're like, Becky, you don't like that. That's just you trying not to have drama. That's not you being big.

You're just like, okay, like great. It's so right, because when I was younger, not even that much younger, but I used to think like when I was with someone, if I didn't feel good about myself, like that I wasn't being myself around them. I'm like, shoot, I wasn't funny enough around them, right? I wasn't smart enough around them.

I wasn't charming enough around them. They don't like me. When it's like, no, no, no, they smart enough around them. I wasn't charming enough around them. They don't like me. When it's like, no, no, no, they put that on you. You were just feeling the energy. They were putting on you. That wasn't you. You could be the same person two seconds later with someone who's receiving your energy

and you guys are vibing and suddenly you feel like yourself again. I just started to be like, if I feel bad about myself around people, that's not my fault. They don't, they don't want me to feel good about myself. I can't fight that. Anyone who doesn't really like you and that you haven't like talked to or you haven't like done anything to

or like there's no room for them to like dislike you but they just dislike you, it sounds so like mommesh. But they really, it's because they just dislike themselves and like you represent something. It reminds me like whenommesh, but they really it's because they just dislike themselves and like you represent something It reminds me like when me and you first met people and they immediately were like this is why I like you You've ever been told to your face face why

Someone thinks you're a bitch and you're like but I've never did that I think you're mistaken me in someone. But I do think as adults, it's true, these girls are so kids, and they're early 20s. I think that's even like reality TV. Yeah. We were in our early mid 20s. It's like once you start getting in your 30s, you're like, I don't want a girl war.

No. What I would give to see the text messages between Selena and Taylor Swift right now, but I would, what I would give. I mean, you know, people who used to like, break into like C celebrity's nudes, don't do that anymore. It's a text.

Let's get their text. Remember that, that, I think it was like 2012 when like everyone's nudes were going around and it was like the biggest thing ever. Yeah, and then no one sent a nude in our generation. Well, I mean, we do sometimes, but we were so scared because it's before Snapchat and I was like, I'm like the-

My nude's gonna be on Times Square. And the thought behind it was like, well, don't have nudes on your phone, don't send nudes. And we all were just like, oh, super not allowed to send nudes. Flashware, like 2023, it's like, join only fans, you idiot. You can make money from your news Do you remember okay? I called it omegle but apparently it was omegle omegle omegle omegle omeg

That that app or that website that you'd like go to when people would just randomly pop up Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, and like every five people would just be like a guy jerking off and you were like 11 years old you're like yeah and our parents had no idea what we were doing I was never allowed to go on that I don't even think I even knew that I just I was well we also grew up with like chat rooms where people were like you just go into random chat rooms I was I never went in a chat room good well you couldn't spell so literally because I probably did not get into I was like I'm not that's a lot of admin. You guys tell me that I'm not writing a sentence.

I think I was also like introverted. I was like, I'm not going in and talking to people. I don't know. You're fucking weird. We're like, we're talking to strangers for fun. Y'all lost your damn minds. I'll be in the bed. See ya.

But you know what's funny? It brings me back to like, it was addressing like reality TV, like when Sierra first walked into the house. I had that very, very, very, very feeling. You have that same feeling, yes. What people don't know is that I was not told that she was coming. I was like lied to and told that she wasn't. So when she was, immediately I don't see her as the person who's trying to hurt me. Right.

Or trying to mess with me. I see her as a girl coming in who knows about me. I don't know about her who probably is like, fuck, I'm a national TV for the first time. And there's this girl who's gonna hate me. These girls are gonna be mean to me. Yes. The first thing I did was go up to her and say, look her in the eye. And I was like, welcome to this house. Yes I don't know you are excited to meet you for who you are and I see you have a cat ring and I love your cat ring

Yeah, and I got dragged online drag for over a year for being nice to a girl who has now become one of my best friends because she handled that situation so gracefully and I just I Fuck with her because let's be honest the man that was involved was neither one of our soulmates Right he was you're just an b-bar You're like stop singing Please We've heard enough. No, I totally agree like here's the thing the internet's gonna make people fight when like They want to make them fight it you'll get in trouble for being too nice. You'll be in trouble for

getting beaten. Yeah, you're bitch, whatever. But I do have to say it is a sign if you don't have good female friends around you. Yeah, you gotta, you gotta have like, you gotta have like a little girl. You have to have girls around you to hold you down to let you know you're loved. The men are running wild and like, no they really are. And how crazy now that Sierra is like such an integral part of like our day to day life.

Well, you can't have yourself worth based off of a man because those men, they are out, they don't know what the fuck's going on. But when I have a girlfriend, a girl friend, a girlfriend, give me insight, that is quality shit. There's no semen involved. It is just straight up facts.

And honestly, Sierra and I like trauma bonded from it. I just couldn't believe that, like talking back about it. People made fun of me for being friendly and then said that I made her feel a type of way. And I'm like, do these are just two girls that you guys wanted to hate each other because it would have been so much more interesting. But because no drama came out of it, you're making up fake drama. You can't trust the man with anything. Even

like imagine saying, okay, imagine saying to me or like me saying to you, like, I'm anxious right now, you'd be like, okay, well, here's the thing, just breathe through it, this tap. Saying it to a guy is like, and their response is like, we'll just, don't be anxious. Like, that is the different men and women. When a man feels any other motion besides anger, he thinks he's dying, so he cannot help you in any capacity. Well, I'll be like, oh my god, I had a panic attack three minutes ago. This is what I did. Yeah. And I'm here for you in all of this.

When there's like status and all these girls, like Kendall and Kylie, like I wonder what happened. Once status gets involved, it's like, are you guys really fucking friends? Are you guys all just famous? Okay. He out of all out of all of this stuff that's happening with Haley and Selena and Kylie and Kendall, I am to the point now where I'm like, what are the Hedids now that we don't know?

Where are the Hedids? How come G, G has distanced from both Taylor and Kendall? How come Bella's not around anymore? Bella was like making out with Kendall every weekend in Italy. I mean, not like for real, but they were like obsessed with each other. And I will say Bella does have like a very serious boyfriend and Gigi is a mom. So like, maybe it is they're just like distance because of their own individual lives. But I just feel like nobody talked about like the distancing of their girl group.

I do think once you get famous, friendships get really complicated. That level of fame I can't imagine. And you only wanna fuck with people who are like kind of aren't gonna use you. So you try to find people who are like of similar status. But like how Taylor Swift's whole like girl gang got destroyed, like she's not friends

with Carly Claus anymore. Like they don't fuck with each other. Like she's not like they like don't fuck with each other. I don't think so. I might have made that up. No, I think you're actually right. You're actually right. Or what about now PMIA resurfacing being like Kylie,

not outright saying it, but being like Kylie's a bitch. Like, and that was like a while. PMIA was like going to be the shit. And then she disappeared. I see, I think that PME got a little bit too, was getting a little bit too much notoriety. Something happened with Kylie and Kylie just like cut her right the fuck off

and they just like ended her. Someone was like, Selena needs to hang out Jordan Woods. Imagine Jordan and Selena post a TikTok. The reason that the Kardashians have so much sustainability is because they always have each other. They have family. Because once you lose all your girlfriends, then you're just standing there

like you're the problem. Right. You're clearly the problem. But they always will have their sisters. And I, but alsoiley hailey Bieber. My girl, where are your sisters? Yeah, why aren't they jumping in? I don't know. I feel like but also there are always family trouble. You can't family's not always the best people in your life. Okay, let's switch gears for a little bit

because Selena and hailey are literally making my brain fucking rot. At the end of the day, if you need one PR sentence from this conversation, me and Hannah don't care. So, oh no, we don't care. We don't talk to enough people to be mean to anyone. And at the end of the day, whatever conspiracy theories or manipulation, you think that we are capable of, we're not. We can barely get on once a week to do this pod. Okay.

Be nice to other women. Page forgives people, I don't. What else? What else? Zendaya, who is quite possibly just like my absolute favorite fashion icon. This girl has negotiated to make, she is now going to make $1 million in episode on Euphoria. Wow. An unproblematic queen. Queen.

She's got her short man putting her on a pedestal. With her like blow out her hair like Marilyn Monroe asked. She wore this. Did you see, did you see that pink dress with the flowers? with her like blow out her hair like Marilyn Monroe asked. She was on the carpet. Did you see, did you see that pink dress with the flowers? It's insane. It's insane. It's insane. I loved it so much. I literally want to wear it to my wedding.

I do think that this is the thing that when you date and the public guy like her and Tom Hall and everyone's obsessed with, for the rest of your life you are connected with them. So like we don't know in the future there may be a drama with Sendeya and Tom Holland could get married in four days to a new girl. You just have to, that's what keeps the magazine selling. Like this day alert.

You have just stayed woke. And stay figure. You got a Gergerloins, some would say, Gerrard, you're fucking loin. I think I'm gonna add that couple into my like favorite couples, because here's how I know, I feel like I know a good couple too.

When they post on the internet, it's like so, like, Sunday I will post a photo, and Tom will be in the background, and then people will comment about Tom being in the background, so the photo is about me. Like, I like trolling.

Well, you know what? Not to bring it back to Haley because we were moving on, but her relationship with Justin is a huge part of her career. And when your identity is so attached to your man from like a career standpoint, a public eyes standpoint, Selena has no attachment to any man, but her important. Yes. And that's why things are a little more difficult. And I highly recommend I'll care how happy you are with your man.

Like, you have to have your own independent shit. And I think Hayley's trying. I think Hayley's trying for sure. It's just hard, because also like you're with one the most famous men in the world. Which inevitably makes you then more famous. So I'm sure she does attach a lot of her career to him where Selena never really had to do that. Which, arguably, we could say that could be one of the reasons of the demise of Selena and Justin.

Because it takes a very, very confident and strong man to know. Damn, my girl actually makes the same, if not more, money than me. She doesn't need me for her career. She literally, I'm here because she wants me to be. She could change her mind at any moment, and I'm out. And that's very vulnerable to men. But like women live with that. We're like, we already are supposed to feel that

because it's just most common for women to marry a man that make more money than them. But I feel like our generation right now, like our 30 year olds, we're like, well, we don't talk with that. They love the dynamic of the power couple of gelena. But then with Haley, it's clearly she's following him around everywhere, supporting himaley, it's like clearly she's like following him around every

while you're supporting him. And it's beautiful. She is like his rock and he's the balloon. We talked about that. Yes. It reminds me when I was like 25, I had no job. I quit my job. I was scared, lonely, lost, and no was going on.

And this like hot, successful guy was like so into me. And I was like, wow, finally someone sees me for me. But he liked me because I had nothing going on. And I just was like cute and thought he was amazing. And then fast forward a year, I started working and doing comedy videos. My stuff started to like get some momentum. And suddenly he started treating me like shit.

Yeah, they don't want you to be on their same level playing field. They wanna be able to feel superior to you. I once dated a guy who like, same boat. I like, I was like an assistant didn't really know what the fuck I was doing. And he would tell me that I should tell him one thing every day that impresses him.

Or like teach him every day. Is that crazy? And now like being 30 and looking back on like that 24 year old self, I was like, he just was a loser, but you thought he was cool because he had more than you, but really he was a loser. And you made him feel good

because you didn't really have anything going on. He was using you for his own confidence. And then that goes back to like the Leonardo DiCaprio thing where it's like not only are you dating 19 year olds, which I guess fine, but it's also like, is it though you're almost 50? It's not, but like I love a George, George Clooney, a mall Clooney moment where like it's two people who are independently happy. Not even successful, just happy in their own thing.

For me, if you could have birthed me, it's too old for me. Like if you could have come through, seriously, if you could have comfortably been my dad, like comfortably. Like at like 20, 29, 30, like you could have come through and had a child and it could have been me, it's too old for me. Like that's weird. A thousand percent and these girls, like you didn't know anything,

so how are you gonna win in a fight? New you can't. Against Leonardo Capriot. It's taken me 10 years to master winning the argument. There's such a power balance, but that's also when they're like money is so different. Like think of Justin Bieber making so much money and hailey kind of not. There's such an imbalance of like whatever Justin needs, Justin gets.

Yeah, but it's not like she's like some broke ass bitch. Like she has like a family with money, but yes, and it's all relative and like to his scale. Yeah. No, she has no money. But ultimately, I don't like, I feel like this is overall bad for women. It's all relative and like to his scale, yeah, no, she has no money. But ultimately, I don't like, I feel like this is overall bad for women. It's bad. We're saying this fight.

Yeah, we need to look at it for feminine. It's bad for feminism. It really is not because ultimately like women are getting hurt. Women are getting hurt left and right. We're taking. How do we turn this on Justin? Literally, that's what I'm trying to think the entire time. And how do you bring back to the root, the common denominator here is that Justin is fucked with both these women. Like, not always go back to the common denominator. I

also didn't even know that Kylie like cared about Selena, but like the social media war of who's the most followed, which again, what a fucking middle school thing to be like, I am really followers than you, let's be honest, they all buy their followers. Like imagine trying to explain that to a kid in the 1910s. They're in the great depression. Yeah, add that to what would put someone in the great depression into a coma

290 million followers on Instagram. Selena laminated her brows wrong. Yeah, and a social media war This is a literal TikTok Oh my god, what an episode. I kind of like this episode normally we're all over the place We hit on every single topic in the world global warming Presidents etc. Yeah, but we focused on this because I think it was important and as you guys know Haley is like one of my one of my best friends It was important for me did this for feminism today to say stop the hate. We did this for feminism and like if you're gonna talk shit Don't do it on the internet. Call your friend.

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