Giggly Squad - Giggling about the dancer cult, bad vegan, and Elizabeth Holmes

Episode Date: March 22, 2022

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I had probably the best time I've ever had at a wedding. I had so much fun. Yeah, Craig's college girlfriends, I mean, they're all like married and have children, so like they were out for the night, and so yeah, they're all like married and have children. So like, they were out for the night. They're going off. Yeah, they were going off. So we had so much fun. And then as much as like I want Giggly squad to be like a pyramid scheme, scheme and occult, which you're pretty much is, I realized at the wedding, it's actually an underground society,

like a secret society. Oh, fully. Because I was walking to the bathroom at one point and one of the waitresses was just like huge giggly squad fan, like in passing. And it was, I was like, thank you so much. Those are your favorites, like what are you in there? Yeah, they don't, they're like, giggly here. And a lot of your work.

Yeah, giggly. Handmaid's tail. Yeah. Do you know they greet each other? No, what do they say? Is it like a, I like stopped watching it because it felt too like creepy and real. Blessed be the fruit.

Oh, there's eyes. No, literally we have to come up with something that like when you know someone else is a giggler like, because I was like fully ready to like whip out a secret handshake. Yep, yep, blessed be the pair. That's my throwback. Bless me the pair. And then, two girls came up to me that were like guests at the wedding, and I talked to them

for like the longest time ever. I mean, I was so hammered. I don't know what we even talked about. We talked about like having babies. There was something crazy. No, Giggly's was fully like we've lost control in the best way possible. And like we've done reality TV. We've done like a lot of things. I've never had the kind of reaction with Giggly squad. I, oh my god. Craig and I flew, well, we flew home from Mexico. I lit, it was like one of definitely top three worst flying experiences I've ever had.

Like I almost started crying. Like I had a full panic attack. I ripped my mask off because I couldn't, I literally was like dry heaving and he was like you have to calm down. Like you have to figure it out. And it was like you have to, you know he put his would, like, you have, why are you acting? You know he put his headphones in and he was ignoring you. He literally shut his eyes and like,

let me squeeze his hand. And I was like, thanks for not leaving me for dead this time. He really like does anyone know this woman? She needs help. He's gonna help her. I am Mrs. Eglacea. Yeah. Yeah.

Alaria. I am Mrs. Eglacia. I'm not. I'm not. I'm not. Why didn't you just tell me a story about the flying? I kind of heard you just said it. Yeah, then I started to get nervous. We also fly. I fly every week. Yeah, you do. I am getting up that age where my lower back is killing me for no reason.

Does it in a middle seat? Oh, Lord, have mercy. I was I was done for four days. I had a hunch. I was not hunched back in Notre Dame. The middle seats are the worst unless like you know the people you're flat-linked. No, I don't care how much I like you. I don't want to sit in between you.

No, I got it. I okay, I have't care how much I like you. I don't want to sit in between you. No, I got it. I, okay, I have a great airport story. I was, we were flying back from Mexico and we were in the, like, clear line and we're like doing, like the thing, whatever. And the lady that was helping me looks at me and she goes, like, whispers it. She's like, and Craig is like at the next station next to me doing his. And she's like, are you a minor? And like, I didn't know, like it was like I didn't know English. I was like, what?

Oh, what? And she was like, how old are you? And I was like, I'm 29. And she like looked at me like I was lying. And I was like, I don't know. She's like, oh, and then she goes, then she goes, how old is he? And I was like, I don't know. She was like, oh, and then she goes, then she goes, how old is he? And I was like 34. And I think she legitimately thought

that Craig was sex trafficking me. Because when we walked up, Craig is so much taller than me, but my arms are so long that I actually have never been able to hold hands with a boyfriend ever because we just we don't line up like it's just not gonna line up I can't like bend my wrist that way. So he ends up just like holding my wrist because that's like the most comfortable and I actually like enjoy that more. So walking up. It looked like it was just like holding me like you stay here. And I have

like a pink baseball hat on and like a white sweatsuit. And she was like how no makeup and she was like how old is he and I was like, I think he's like 34. And then he walked over and she was like, sorry, you just looked so young. And then I was like, oh my God, thank you so much. I do use an eye-created. Because you need an eye-created. Yeah. Do you realize that is hilarious? Because once I took a story of Des,

just had his hand on my forearm, and I was like, is this cute or controlling? Yeah, that's like the only thing. For arm-controlling. Cute or controlling. Fingers, cute. It's like when you're flirting with a guy, if you touch his shoulder, not flirting, you touch his elbow, you want to fuck.

Interesting. See, I think, I think like, if you're flirting with a guy and you touch right here, like between the shoulder and the elbow, you're trying to bang. That's sexual. But that's sexual. But shoulder is not.

Yeah, okay, I could see that. I could see that. If you get on the shoulder, that's like, broad. I don't know if I've ever touched a guy's elbow, though. Ha, ha, ha. Elbow area. Just out here, squeeze an elbow. You just like, you just pull like the little foreskin

on the elbow and you just flick it. You just give him a wet willy and then he knows it's on. By the way that clear story happened exactly to me except not because Des was holding my forearm it's because Des has a gray hair. I was wearing no makeup and she goes, are you a minor and Des was laughing so fucking hard and she always go, is your daughter, how old is your daughter and she's like, oh my god. It's so funny And then I'm like, can you pay for this? Yeah, I love that. OK, I have to talk about something that kept me up until 3

and last night. I'm not proud of it. But there's something happening on social media that we have to talk about. There's a girl who's a dancer. She's have 3 million followers with her sister on TikTok. Mm-hmm. Who her family recently went on TikTok and said, our sister got married to this man who's in this like dance company, who's part of a church.

And she hasn't spoken to us in almost a year. And they got married and didn't invite us, and we think she's part of a cult. Oh! Hannah, this is your dream. So you know! I was about to don't fuck with cats this shit. I was about to get like multiple screens. So this, but this girl then came out with just like writing on TikTok being like,

I am not in a cult, which is what they always say. Classic, classic cult, classic cult. Classic cult, paper. But she did say like, I got in a fight with my sister and like they're not supportive of me. And like, how old are they? How old are they?

20s, early 20s. Okay. But she is part of this church. And then other people said other dancers have cut off contact with their family. And, but the thing is I looked into it, I don't know. But then she just goes on live and someone kept being like, raise your hand if you need help.

And she like awkwardly raised her hand. But these are all like kind of conspiracy theory things. I love conspiracy theory. Her name is Miranda Derrick. And the interesting thing about it is they're big dancers. She has 800,000 followers. And she cut it off with her sister. But then people are like, why is she writing on TikTok?

Suspect. That she's not in a cult. Why isn't she just say it? And then her and her sister, when they broke up, the sister was just like, oh, she's made like other choices. Like the whole thing is just like super. Wow, I can't wait to deep dive into that. We have to deep dive. It's called seven M films. And then people talk about how the dance community is culty overall. So we're taking down the whole dance community. And this is a thing. And I want you guys to look

into it. It's Miranda Derrick. This is why I've never danced. Yeah, dancing's dangerous for so many reasons. And like, we're just also not good at it. You know, that's me justifying it. And like, you guys are a cult. I'm gonna be honest. I have no memory of ever seeing you dance. I have never danced. I don't dance. I don't. But I know you do dance. I just don't have a memory of it.

I, okay, this is another thing at the wedding. Craig and I are so awkward sometimes when we're like, a slow song came on and normally couples start dancing. we like looked at each other and we're like losers Like let's go to the bar Like I think we dance for literally two seconds and we were like this is just so not us like let's go take a shot or something I Just I can't dance when people are telling me to dance You're just a rebel with a cause, you know? Yeah, I'm just like, not, I have to be so drunk

to bust out a move, but other than that, I'm not a dancer. So my future husband loves dancing. Wow. He was on Dancing with the Stars, Ireland, you guys say? Oh, right, oh, right. You can YouTube it if you want to have some fun with that. Let's just say he was so committed. He still talks about like the best time of his life

He did great and we're proud of him. However, Daniel G's wedding We were like dancing on concrete and he was like this is hurting my knees. We have to stop and I was like that's what happens when you're with his daddy And we love that for him. You can't accumulate wealth over a short period of time Okay, cuz like one move and And we love that for him. You can't accumulate wealth over a short period of time. Okay. Because like one move and his love language is words of affirmation. So like every time he does that, I'm just like, oh my God, it's so good.

But he literally is that meme. When like a child is like, oh my God, watch me. And he does like one jump and it's just like waste my fucking time. I need to like you do. Yeah, he like does like one spin move. And I'm just like, I have things to do. Like I don't know if you're getting better at words of affirmation because I feel like that doesn't come naturally to you.

It doesn't. You literally like have never even told your dog that it's cute so it's like it's hard for me to envision this. I feel like you said a reminder on your phone like tell Craig that amazing. Tell him that I still like him. No, actually he said I am getting better. My thing is does an Irish so sarcastic that we have trouble. Yeah, and Craig can take a certain amount of sarcasm and like, I'm like, no, I do really like you.

And he's like, you don't act like it's So there's like a meter and sometimes I go right over the line. You were too nice to me I'd be like I'd be like hey fake bitch I'm trying to fake to face bitch. I said something the other day to him That was like so mean that like right when it came out of my mouth. I was like I'm sorry like so mean that like right when it came out of my mouth, I was like, I'm sorry. Yeah. So I know, I talked about Diet Coke and how like I posted a video about the Diet Coke addiction that no one talks about.

Yeah. And you wrote hate, agree? I fucking hate Diet Coke. People, no one's ever ordered just one Diet Coke. They order like 17,000 Diet Cokes. I just feel like if you're gonna drink soda, and I have like such a soda addiction, if you're gonna drink it, drink it for real.

Yeah, don't try and be like the skinny version of it. So annoying. It's like ordering a skinny mark. Like, just do it. You're already halfway there, just fucking finish it. But people be like, there's no calories in it. Like, there are though. I don't believe that. You're just fucking finish it, but people be like there's no calories in it. Like there are though. I don't believe that. Yeah, there's sort of lying like there's no way.

You're doing it. I said no sugar and I'm like then what? What's in it then? Because it's not like what is both of those things. I said I said heroin has no sugar calories. That's not great. No, and also so does like the worst thing you can put in your body, and I have one Coca-Cola die. Do you really? Keeps you going.

It's like your coffee. Pretty much. Yeah, I fucking love Coca-Cola. You are just the epitome of balance, and I don't want to get your head big, but... Am I? I mean, I just do skin routines and then like, eat burger guys. Eat bad food.

And like, why am I doing that? You know how? But I fixed my pimples, I'm gonna give myself more pimples. But I feel like you're always testing. I also have been addicted to getting a vanilla latte from Starbucks. But I get the the cold foam on top because I thought it was just like foam. And then I realized like it's fully whipped cream and this called a little foam.

And then I realized I've been just like snorting whipped cream to the face for like three weeks and I was wondering what I was like feeling gassy all the time. Then I was like, You're supposed to be dairy free. It says foam. I didn't know it was whipped one of these call Starbucks is so fucking annoying call it what it is stop speaking your own language like you're better than people

Starbucks is also so fucking fat and I Like I don't get sugar in my coffee anymore because I'm just like I My mom is like you're drinking a milkshake every morning and I was like No literally Not that it's bad to drink a milkshake just I thought I was being the pythamy of health getting cold foam on my latte oh my god like literally a pythamy of health and I was getting the the venti I'm just picturing you like walking in and ordering at Starbucks and I don't know why

makes me laugh so hard. It almost like Jesus Christ. Okay, next, I've been dying to talk about this because I know that you love a fucking surgery. Like people changing their faces and you judge. I know what you're about to say and I've been working for this moment. This is kind of like part of front page news. Bella Hadid admitted to some of her not all but credit work.

One percent. Admitted to some of her plastic surgery and said she regrets getting a nose job at 14 years old. Before we even start talking about this, how come Yolanda Hadid has not been put into psychiatric therapy? Because at 14 years old, that's fucking insane. So, not to like, I'm trying to understand Yolanda, because I come from like a sports family where like my family sent me an tennis academy at 14. That's fucking crazy, but that's just like what you did. They're a professional modeling family, so I feel like she was like,

okay, ugly, duckling, you better fix yourself. Oh my god. Because they're always successful as being pretty. Like they're only, I mean, and Bella did said she felt like she was the ugly sister or whatever. And then they have all those clips of... You'll want to tell Gigi not to eat things. And Gigi's like, can I have cake on my birthday? And she's like, Gigi, you know that's not good for you.

Yeah, I will. No. Okay, less than that. I'm not, eat it, but then I'm like, don't eat it. Don't eat it. Just smell it. Smell it and then blow your nose.

There is a clip from housewives that has haunted me to this day. Gigi is like getting ready for a photo shoot. I'm like, her mom and Yolanda's like asking her about the photo shoot or something. And Gigi says like, I'm just so excited for the food that I'm gonna eat after this. And like, it makes me so uncomfortable

because like yeah, I get fucking pumped up when I know there's like a good meal coming my way. But like, I just couldn't like relate to it. Like my mom thinks that I don't eat. My dad will call me on a daily basis and be like, one's the last time he had steak. I'm like, what? I don't know.

This is based on a career thing that happens to be a bigger issue with the industry. If you want to be a model, you have to be skinny. It's like, if you want to be a wrestler, you have to be a certain weight. The wrestlers at constant would literally eat watermelon for three days to hit a weight. It's fucked up but it was like part of the industry and you know anyway when you're 14 your face is not fully formed. Wow now I'm creating watermelon.

No, you're not even fully like your face is still changing. I had too much acne to even know what my face looked like at 14. I mean that had to have been also just like the psychological implications of like because at 14 you're not calling and making the appointment and you're not like paying for it. So that was like directly her mom being like, let's do this. And I couldn't imagine my mom saying anything other than I'm stunning, gorgeous, perfect, beautiful. Like I don't want to be mad at Bella because she's such a victim of society, but it's also like, why did you feel like you were that ashamed

that you want to lie about your face and what sucks is that she was hurt but then you're hurting other women who are looking at your face and thinking that's how they should look when you've had thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars work of work on your face. I just don't get not admitting it. Yeah, I'd like to think because she's ashamed and she regrets the work she got done at such an early age.

Also lately, honestly, I'm annoyed at Kim too. Why? Oh my God. Why? Her body. You just think it looks so weird. Well, when you speak to someone outside the industry, it was like one of my mom's friends went up to me and she was like,

what's with Kim Kardashian's body? Why does it look like that? And I was like, oh it's fake. She was like, what? And then we just take it for granted, that's her body. But the world is looking at it. And I love that they've helped change the idea of beauty to not be like stick skinny, that there's a range, and I love that for them.

But their curves are not attainable either. Not at all. Not at all. How do you have a ass that fat with thighs that little and no pooch? Yeah, no. You need to have a little stomach. A little stomach make your ass better. Negative effecting women's brains. Sorry.

I shouldn't apologize. I'm not apologize. Don't apologize. And also, I feel like it's being with like a partner that's... Like, I feel like even if you don't wanna admit it, like whoever you're dating at the time really does impact what you think about yourself and like it shouldn't, but like it's inevitable like it does.

And I've had boyfriends before where I've hated my entire body, my entire face, like what my hair looks like. And then you get into a relationship where like they think where I've hated my entire body, my entire face, like what my hair looks like. And then you get into a relationship where like, they think you are the most perfect human being ever. And like pajamas. They're literally the cats pajamas.

And like I feel like her being with Pete, I feel like maybe some of that is going to change. Your, your person's a mirror for you and she even said that Kanye was dressing her and stuff and I do have to make a statement on Gayleys Guad. Kanye's a fucking stop. I mean, Kanye, this is abuse. This is it. I think that it's like narcissistic control behavior.

She wants out of the relationship, leave her the fuck alone. It's also just like terrifying. Like I always say this too, you know, and you see a couple that like fights in public. That, like anytime I see a couple fighting in public, I mean obviously I'm watching, I'm picking sides, I'm like getting the tea.

But I then get immediately- They're playing with you, get out my judo. But then I immediately get sad, because I'm like, damn, if they feel comfortable enough to do this in front of other people, or you were sitting at a dinner table, and I can hear you from my dinner table, I can't imagine what it's like being in the confines of like your home together

Well, I think it was Bethany Frank was talking out about this a lot and she said that Kim's gonna come out with like a story like a book one day being like this is what it was really like to be in that relationship and What yeah, what he's doing is a guy who's lost control of The woman yep, and it sucks and I heard so I know his heart breaking. I know he's suffering from a lot of things, but um It's this is why women are afraid to leave right This is why women are scared of getting out of certain relationships because you know rather say in it than deal with this shit. How about Pete texting him Pete Isn't scared to anyone anyone he's from New York. Yeah, and Pete

Like lost his dad at a young age Pete deals with his own fucking depression. Pete has nothing to lose I mean I'm gonna be here him sending the picture and being like in bed with your wife I lost my mind savage What other front page news do you have before we get into all the shit we're watching? That's it Easy peasy you wrote this is a Pamela Anderson stamp podcast. This is a Pamela Anderson stamp podcast and I this is a Garth Brooks and Pamela I finished Pam and Tommy You didn't like it first, right? I didn't like it. I just thought okay

I thought the acting was like okay, and I was really just watching, because I loved watching Lily James. Like, I just, well, was obsessed with someone. I was on her love. Stan Sebastian, a real fucking guy's name is. I'm okay. I do too now. And I know there's probably so much more volatile things that happen in their relationships. So I don't want to glorify that they did definitely have

like some sort of toxic relationship. Yeah. But I genuinely think they would have stayed together if the sex tape like wasn't as huge as it was. And he never really understood how it impacted her so much differently because she is a woman. Like, I don't think she could get past that he couldn't understand that it really is so different.

And she's so fucking nice. She was so like wanted to just like be an actress and like have this career and this sex tape literally just ruined her. And to think that like someone stole it and put it out because they were mad at Tommy Lee and like it just impacted her. It was just such dominoes of karma and I just fucking love her. And when she comes out with her show or if she does anything, I love her. And then I was googling her,

all of her relationships have never really worked out. I just felt bad because I feel like she was just a normal girl from Canada who happened to be smoking fucking hot. Yeah, but like so sweet. This is our mental health moment. I learned about an intake topic. One of the top things that cause issues in relationships is when you don't acknowledge your partner's feelings. Yes. Yes. In relationships, you can't, you have your feelings. They have their feelings. And sometimes they just want to be heard. Yeah. And in this particular situation, she wasn't mad that Tommy couldn't fix it. She was mad that Tommy couldn't like, at least empathize with her. Yes. But also, this was back in the fucking 90s where even though that's

when we were born, it was such a different time where they literally were like this kind of no one. I mean, look at Kim. Look at Kim. She made a billion dollar company off of it. She's the most famous person in the world. Pamela was ended. She had a whole career was ended, because of it. To, what is the word?

To piggyback off of that mental health moment. I saw this thing, I don't know where it was. It was either on like TikTok or Instagram, you know, one of like the new stations, one of the social media news. And they did a study with couples that like acknowledging the small things in a relationship are what made couples last.

So like if you're driving in the car with your boyfriend, husband, fiance, whatever. And he says, oh my God, look at this bird. And you just like, happen, like you look and you acknowledge what he's like talking about. And they stay together longer than people who just like, are just like, yeah, okay.

Like, even though it's like a stupid little thing. So I like actively, all the time when Craig says, says like dumb shit, I'm just like, oh my god, what? There's nothing more empty feeling than when you say something little and someone doesn't acknowledge it. Right.

Right. And all the relationship is being there for someone. And I totally solve their problems. I totally understand the like, if you're in a relationship with someone, that is your best friend, that is who you tell everything to, you talk about everything with them.

So like if you're feeling depressed or anxious, I don't want you to like give me a solution, I want you to let me like vent and be like, I totally got it. Like, I wanna feel safe in your feelings. Yeah, and it's just people that are like fixers all the time, they mean well, but it's like, no, just listen to me complain about this bitch and then agree with it.

And then I can move on to. But it also is crazy that's how sometimes an external event in your relationship that you guys can't handle well together can hurt it so bad. But I do think when you're meant to be like that external stuff can't break you, but they do think when you're meant to be like that external stuff can't break you, but they do say that they were like they're always like still in love with each other. I know. Which kind of sucks for Tommy Lee's current wife. She's not happy.

I mean I wouldn't be happy either, but I don't like I think because they did try and like But I don't like, I think, because they did try and like, rekindle. Yeah. And then something happened with their son, and Tommy Lee, and Pamela is like, so for her kids, like, she's like, I don't give a shit. I do think that you can have like a great love in your life that you will never forget

and you love that relationship and you love that person. But you like get older, you're in a different stage like you think about things differently and it just wouldn't work out, but that doesn't mean that that person wasn't like a great love of your life. I also think they loved parting together. Yeah. A lot. And he was into drugs and all that stuff and it's not easy when there's all that external shit and also like fame is hard And there was that crazy scene where they're just trying to like get a hotel room. Yeah, and

it It was it's it was scary. Yeah, it was scary And you just felt like she was already so exposed and so violated and like there was just no freedom for her But yeah, we highly recommend Pam and Tommy on Lulu. Okay, I did go crazy one night and you guys have been asking for a list of dope documentaries. I attempted to put one together. I saw that on Instagram. I was like she just put in so much work. It was, I mean, I will whatever the Googlers want the Googlers get and I give them what they want on a highlight reel on my Instagram, let's begin because I've been watching a lot of shit. Did you watch The Dropout?

Yeah. Well, I'm on episode four. The dropout with, you wrote, I have so much to say. I watched this documentary when I came out of, you need to watch actually, I actually, I watched it on HBO. You watched it. Okay. Can I do my list with homes impression?

I would love if you did. Okay. My name is Elizabeth Holmes. And I did go to Stanford for a year and I'm smarter than everyone and I'm going to create something that's going to change the world and I am having enough. Um, first of all, that was spot on. Second of all, her voice is fake. Yeah, that's the funniest thing about it.

The crazy part. Are you not impressed with Amanda Seafried? I am very impressed by her. Seafried? Seafried? Are we not impressed? Amanda's safe-rid? No.

No. No. No. She's not impressed. I's very impressed. I'm not gonna lie. The first episode, I was like, I don't know if I believe her in this role, but I'm gonna give it a shot. By episode three, I was like, she is Elizabeth.

Whenever I see her, I just think she's about to rain. She's gonna touch her tit and be like there's a 70% chance It's already raining Oh my god, that is her. I see when I look at her. I always think she's about to cry Huh or she's gonna sing in me a mama me mama me What's going on with your words Words are fucking hard Okay, so give me your story your first

I Words are fucking hard. Okay, so give me your story. Your first live. I was skeptical because I watched the documentary and it was so good because you actually learned more than the documentary about some of our interrelationships and how things got started and how people really felt about her. And this is like scam artist day on Giggly Squad because this is just the beginning of it but hers is a thin line between scam artist and like being obsessed with being successful and not yet people's obsession with

success so it's less it's more self-hate versus wanting to hurt other people we're like and a baby was similar, but was blatantly hurting other people. But Elizabeth home blatantly hurt other people when her product, if her product doesn't work, the healthcare doesn't do its job, but then people die. I, not to give away spoilers, but like, whatever, this is not a podcast.

It's been a story, it'll break. There is a moment in the show that I think is a very pivotal moment. And it's after the Christmas party, when she's throwing up in the parking lot. And she says to him, I don't feel things, the way other people feel things. And he says, I know.

And I was like, I love you, and then he literally weaponizes her. Yes, and I was like shook by that moment. He's crazy, he's terrifying. And I'm like thinking about it and I'm like, okay, yeah, she like lied to so many people, but like as she was doing this, people were telling her like, just get the money because like it doesn't have to be perfect and like the money will help you make it perfect So I feel like she was just being like okay the more money I get

Then like the product really will work yeah, and I feel like she truly did believe that that it would work But she got so obsessed with just like the money part of it, rather than the actual science of it. And then I was thinking, what if she had taken all of this energy and became a murderer? You know, like I'm happy that it went this way rather than her just, but,

because she's obviously a sociopath. She doesn't have feelings. She was practicing in the mirror like how to say hi to people. You're right. Like her brain just doesn't, I also think this is a great example of when you wanna do something, it cannot be result oriented. Like her whole thing was I wanna be a billionaire.

Yeah. If you just wanna be a billionaire, you make bad decisions and you don't, you're not actually happy. Start only man. Yes, this girl, because she's so obsessed with being a billionaire, lies about stuff. You have to enjoy the journey. If she actually loved the product,

she would have been really invested in making the best product possible and wouldn't have said yes to all this money bullshit. But yes, start a fucking only fans, put your feet out there and call it a day. And not to knock, because I feel like there are obviously like geniuses who are super young. But like this bitch was in boardrooms at 19 years old.

Like that's insane and I do give her credit for being so mature. Like she was such an old soul. I feel like they made her seem a little nicer than what I've gathered from like other interviews where like I feel like she was more of an asshole as a leader that they didn't show. Yeah. But seeing her evolve and then seeing how she's like taking private jets and like time people I can't pick up and running away from stuff. You see how you can change as a human when she talked and she wanted that rich life which we said in the beginning of the podcast. Does not make you happy and Loki will drive you crazy. Yeah. Yeah. And I just think like her

relationship with him was so stuck homey because her parents, like, like when her dad was in the hospital and she went to see him, like she wanted to love him and he was like leave. Like, he's like, I spent my tuition money on your company leave. And then when she told the mom, I think I might wanna do this,

the mom was like, you have to do it. That's all you are. Yeah, and she was like, I just don't understand you. Like, that's why she ended up with this guy because her parents honestly kind of seemed like assholes. Yeah. But I do love all these more in depth reasons that you see how someone becomes how they are. But you're right. That was like. And the whole thing was like, I don't know.

But in like an ego way it wasn't like I really want to help people it's like I want to help people so people think I'm God. Yeah, absolutely. Okay. Yes. Have you watched Bad Vegan? No, I haven't yet. That is on my list and life and Beth is on my list.

So Bad Vegan was one of those things that it was getting so popular that I start to be like I don't want to watch it. Yeah. But I did. And let me tell you why I'm so happy I did. Can I tell you guys what it's about? Yeah. You might have heard about it. There was this like raw vegan food restaurant that all the celebrities went to in New York City. I'd definitely been here about it. You're like that algorithm missed me. So everyone was in it. Everyone about it. You're like, that algorithm missed me. So everyone was in it, everyone loved it. She actually, like, low-key almost dated, I like, bald-win. She was the owner of it. She's so successful.

You see her doing, like, interviews and shit. She's a badass. What's it called? With the restaurant. It's called, like, pure food and wine or something. She's dating a famous chef. I know, not a great name. Not great for anything, but. Okay but not great stuff happened, believe me. So she meets this dude who was tweeting

at Alec Baldwin. So that's a red flag. And she meets him and the guys are con artist. And everyone around her can kind of see it. They find out he's been arrested, he changed his name, all this stuff. I love a name change. Yeah, it's giving Tinder Swindler, and you're like, okay, we've seen this before. It gets real crazy. So she's a little, she's vegan and she's into like astrology and like yoga and all that shit. She's low- woo. This guy creates his own cult

of just him and her. He convinces her. She has to do things for them to hit their ultimate happy ever after. And it's called Giggly Squad. We go subscribe, break review and you too will reach heaven. And it's called Giggly Squad. Ha ha ha then inevitably the people start asking for wires, wire transfers. So she starts paying him thousands of dollars and he's like, life is not about money. You have to understand that money is nothing and she's like, but I have to pay my employees and he's like, no, everything's fake, nothing's real in this life. We just have to get past these things so that we can be in forever eternal happiness. And then people are saying was she kind of,

in it because she married him for money and she fully admitted it. She thought he was really rich and could save her from some debt and then just wanted overall happiness. Long story short, she can't pay her employees, she's giving me all the money, they leave together, they run away together, but then she's locked in her hotel room with him.

Oh my God. And they're out, but she's in trouble too. Because it's her business that she's not paying. So all the presses like this woman is horrible, she didn't pay her employees and went on the run And she owes investors money when realistically she's in this like cult relationship and he's keeping her kind of hostage The men are ruining our lives I will I'm watching too many documentaries because then does will call me and I'll be like what do you want?

He's like I love you on missy Bay, but I'm like, and you're like, do you want my bank account number? Because no. If your enemies are after you, lose my number. But for real, men, when it grows, they're like, I hang out with guys cause they're less drama, what?

They're terrifying humans. Connie. Putin, do I have to continue? The Taylor Spellner? Who appears on the camera? Seriously. How insane is that? Wait, is Elizabeth Holmes in jail?

I don't know. I'm a little confused on that. But basically, scammers are in right now, and it's kind of annoying, because I feel like people are going to do things now to get it like this like fame and attention as a scammer. Because there's low key this like, oh I'm smarter than people. I was just gonna say that. You have to be so smart to be a scammer. Like I wouldn't even know.

No, it's not smart. It's sociopathic I think. You have to be sick to be a scammer. You have to be sick. You have to be lying so bad that you like start believing your lives That's so crazy like Just to like hustle someone I would be nervous And what sucks about all these people? It's all super charming. Yeah, but I feel like Elizabeth Holmes. I was about to accept Elizabeth Holmes was in but she was a really good sales person Yes, that's what it was Which leads me to my next show called we crashed

Which is Apple TV with Jared leto and and half the way Jared leto crushes this it just came out two days ago I told you guys about the we work documentary which I highly recommend you wash. This is them acting it out and it is so fucking good. Ryan Sirhan actually proposed it to me and I I downloaded Apple TV and everything three month trial right now for free. For 99. It is so good because it's again a guy who just like, I love how millennials are like, oh my god, we don't watch regular TV. We will not pay for regular TV.

And I'm literally paying like $70 a month for everyone in my family's like Netflix account. Well, you're like, I already paid this, why not this? And I say, you know, you're like, why am I paying $7,000? Because you see like $399, I'm like, yeah, obviously I'm gonna get fucking Hulu. And then you get your bill and you're just like, what's going on?

Then you're just like renting random shit and then you're yelling at Delta because they don't have a TV Because you're so addicted to watching anyway. Yeah, it's a whole thing. But I actually I think this scammer generation stems from But the millennials. I'm not trying to be like a boomer right now, but you know how millennials were raised like all your dreams can come true? Yeah. And like, you don't have to do the corporate ladder.

And like me and you, we love being entrepreneurs. Some people take it too far. Where they're like, I'm gonna be the next Steve Jobs. Also like, how people go, you have to be crazy. When people tell you no, you have to keep pushing. Yeah. So this guy is fucking crazy at we work, getting all these investors and all this shit

and then just spending all the money on himself. And it's all stemmed from wanting to be like Steve Jobs. Yeah, the end of the house. Let's be at home, I want to be like Steve Jobs. And it's like, he's a particular genius. You guys are fucking sociopath, narcissists, crazy people. And I'm not trying to name, call anyone, but they're pretty valid. I don't want to put this in the universe, but like, what if you have a child and you just

like realize that they're a sociopath? Oh my god. No, like it's so scary to me. Like, I worry about having like a daughter who like doesn't want to do ballet But really I should worry about her being a sociopath and like Wait, do you remember that scary movie called orphan? Yeah Where they adopted that girl who's actually like a 47 year old woman in a tiny girls body. Yeah, I want to murder everyone. Yeah That's my biggest fear.

You're just going to walk out and want to murder you. That's such a good movie, though, that you start realizing that your kid might be a serial killer or might become a cult leader. Yeah, and it's just people are born the way they're born. Like I truly Not together like scientific, but the whole like nature versus nurture thing like I mean this is a science podcast So continue science. This is a family Anderson science podcast So

Apparently I really do believe in like nature versus nurture I truly believe that you are born the way you are born and that is how you're going to be, but like your surroundings can influence certain personality traits, but I feel like if you are born in asshole, you will always be an asshole. Yeah. And sometimes you might not be an asshole, but your core is an asshole. Well, you see kids in kindergarten, there's like the bullies.

Yeah. And there's the kids who will stand up to the bullies. Yeah. And then there's the kids who are always getting bullied. Yeah. And that wasn't because they chose it. That's like in their gut. It's just in just who you are.

Oh my God. Now I have another irrational fear to worry about. That's going to happen. I took, when I worked at ABC News, my boss had a daughter and she still has a daughter. But her daughter at the time was like seven years old. And I had to bring her to a birthday party one time. Besides the fact that the moms were so rude to me

because they thought that I was the nanny. And I wanted to be like, hold on to your husband's lady. I am the number one assistant. I am the number one assistant. I am the number one assistant. I was like, how dare you? Like, I'm not trying to come in here and like nanny your kids either.

I don't even want to nanny this one right now for two hours. I don't even know how to nanny. Yeah, I'm like, I don't know why she requested me to bring her to this party. I hate children. No, but her daughter was adorable. Now, you see, pick her up from school

and like, she had to go to this birthday party. My boss couldn't take her, so I took her and I stayed with her at the birthday party. And so I'm watching these like seven year old girls and it was so insane to see them interact with each other because I could immediately pick out like you're getting pregnant in high school. You're a fucking bitch.

Like you don't know what's going on. Lights are off in your brain, but like it's just how they're born. Like one was just like a little bit more sexually overt than all the other seven year olds, and my boss's daughter wanted to play with like puppies and markers, and I was like, stay just like this, like you're adorable.

And we can use this for positives, as in like whenever I feel often life I'm always like who was Hannah when she was seven like what did she like to do and honestly what I like to do Was I like to paint I like to run around and I like to make people laugh like I just like to make silly faces and make So it's like I like to create now. I like to do comedy. What was the other thing I like to do? NAP. Yeah, I like having. I never opposed to napping. Like I was not loved your outfits right out of the womb. Oh my god, right out of the womb, I loved them. I would literally sit in my mom's closet. She'd be like, have to come find me because I would just look at her shoes.

And I used to read American Girl Doll books when they would show you hair tutorials. Bitch, I was doing hair tutorials. That is for it was a thing. And I would copy the pictures. Yeah. I used to also fight bullies. Like I was like the bully fighter.

Wow. I had a girl that I stuck up four and fourth grade on the bus. Yeah. Like one random day and I didn't really even remember it. And when we graduated eighth grade, she came up to me and said something about it. And I was, and I never forgot it.

And I was like, oh my god, like you are so welcome. Yeah. I forget what it was. You. You. I have a parent, apparently. Apparently! Apparently when I was younger, this is actually so typical of me.

Now that I think about it, this guy was like really cute, cute Irish boy. His name was James, and he was dyslexic, and for whatever reason, the teacher was making us do full presentations in front of parents of like what we wrote and like in front of this big board and he was like clearly struggling to read out of nowhere. Boy crazy. Um I stood up and went to the front and held his hand. Stop and held him read. Which is like now go make me cry. And that was just born in you. That was born in me, but I also really, like I also later on did corner him and kiss him.

And I got in trouble for that. So I actually, the motives were for helping him, but we helped him. You were like a tower dating. Yeah, well, crazy person is like, I'm gonna stand up, even though it's not my turn to like help this person

I loved attention at a very young age, but anyway long story short when you feel often life It's clouded by like the filters and the bullshit society puts on you go back to who you were when you were raw and if you were human I don't know yeah, that this we're not the pod free, but I do think back, like back in the day when you're pure, like, could you be our kids, I guess some kids are assholes. Kids are assholes. But the gigglers are not. I'm telling you, I've met so many gigglers traveling.

The gigglers are our people and they are us. Like the gigglers are us. Yeah, and my mom has a saying that assholes produce assholes. So like if you're an asshole, your child's probably going to be an asshole. So I'm not that worried for us. And that goes down to making decisions with the guy you're going to be with. Yeah. Like if he's an asshole to you, your kid's going to be an asshole to you.

Do you want to deal with two assholes in the asshole? And if he's an asshole to his mom, you're not obsessed. Large claim score. By the way, if I lost comedy gig, I was in Charlotte. It was so much fun. This girl put up her big words on her. They said small claim score. That's right.

It just, it goes for everything. Like, see a quarry. OK, I have two left. OK. this next one is really intense. It's and it's really good. It's called Phoenix Rising. I think it's HBO Max and it's the whole story of Evan Rachel Wood exposing her relationship with Marilyn Manson. You're welcome. Oh my god. But what's it on? What's it on? Wild. I'm in a double check for us because I want to make sure I'm giving the right information. Everyone. Phoenix rising. I love when girls have boy names. Oh, it's on Hulu. It's on Hulu. Okay. So, everyone should have what has always been like very cool and mysterious, right? Don't you agree?

Yeah. So, she's been soft launching the fact that she wasn't a very abusive relationship. Yeah. Like she was like, she didn't want to say the name. We love us off-launch no matter what it is. What no matter what it is, because she wanted to come out when she was comfortable, and now she's on full blast of like everything that happened in her relationship. But Marilyn is coming back full force with a lawsuit of defamation and he's, it's like very tense right now because you basically watch your whole process, you watch other women saying I've had this similar experience with him and then he has his people being like we don't, this is not a thing. So it's kind of like this awkward situation right now, but she goes in depth of the like emotional and physical abuse she dealt with and he started with

her when he was 37 and she was 18. No, that's like the Elizabeth Holmes thing. She was 19 and he was like one of our in his 30s like late 30s. I do have to say. That's so uncomfortable. There's something very, like, you remember us when we were 18. What did we care about? Like, what did we talk about? Like, I actually don't remember what I was like at 18.

Like, I was a freshman in college. I don't know, a literal idiot. We're young 29, 30 year olds. What would we talk to an 18 year old about? Nothing. Literally nothing. Anyone like 10 years younger than me, I don't know what to say to them.

But like there's a difference, like if I'm 30 and like the guy I'm with 40, but like when you're in your teens. No. I'm actually going to dinner with a 19 year old girl. Or boy. No, I'm actually going to dinner with a 19 year old girl or boy No, I know And this means 37 having a full-on relationship and she talks about the grooming I think it's once year 20. I'm gonna say once you're 25 It's more normal to date someone

older than like five years older than you. But before 25, you have no idea day to day what's going on ever, literally ever. No, no, your brain is not fully formed. No. And then some people are like, okay, it's Marilyn Manson. Would you think you were going to get into? But Marilyn Manson is also like very charming and funny, which I didn't know about. I just like, I don't know how you would even bring yourself

to kiss him. Like that. This is the thing, he's like an intellectual funny freak that like sees the world in a different way. Like honestly, I get it also. He's tall. He's very tall. He's like, they really talk about that.

But it is important, he's a tall man. Well, he obviously, like, and I'm guilty of this too, like I'm very attracted to people that can walk into a room and not say anything and kind of just like command the room. And he definitely has that. Well, one because he looks psychotic, but like he definitely has that. Well, one because he looks psychotic, but like he definitely has that like edge. But the whole thing with him is people thought

it was like very performative what he's doing. Is he a good person, pretend to be a monster? Is he a good witch or a bad witch? He's a good witch or a bad witch? I don't know why, that just came to my brain. Or is he a wolf hiding in wolf's clothing? A wolf hiding in wolf's. Oh wow, I see what you did there.

Yeah. Is 910s. Yeah. Okay, that's on. That's on Hulu. Wow, we have a lot of shows to watch. Honestly, thank God. Finally.

Finally. Finally, I was in a funk. Girl, I am back in action. I'm a big Amy Schumer fan. I love Amy Schumer. She's been very inspirational to me. And she's finally back out with a show. What do you think? I'll be watching it at all. No, because I've been on the dropout.

I watched the first episode, and it's good. I feel like she's getting her rhythm back. No one's like Amy, and it's like reflection ever on my screen. Michael Rappin-Port is on it, Amy and it's like Refresh never on my screen. Yeah. Michael Rappaport is on it and a lot of my comedy friends are on it, which is pretty cool. Oh my God.

Rose Matek is on it. Wait, one of your friends is on Marvelous Mrs. Maisal. Oh my God, Elise Morales. Yes. She was like the assistant. I was watching it and I was like, I know that I know this girl this girl And she's so industry now like we can't watch anything without seeing people Yeah, just like oh my god. We're basic we live in LA basically Guys, thank you for a gig. Let's tell us all the feedback on the shows that you're watching slash

We're going to Boston this week. Oh my God, we're going to Boston. I'm literally so fucking excited because Boston sold out in literally three seconds. So, I know the energy is up. Do you know we have two shows? Yeah, I know, I'm kind of insane. We have to like not black out the first show. I know I said we, but we know what I was talking about.

Yeah, no, I know. I want black out. Or we fully commit to the black out. Yeah, yeah, possibly. And we go all the way through. And we see what the night takes. Yeah, we'll just see what happens. So Boston will see you on Saturday.

And we love you guys so much. Talk to you and get good with you later. Bye.