Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast - GGACP Classic: Remembering Adam West

Episode Date: September 19, 2024

GGACP celebrates the birthday of TV's original Caped Crusader, Adam West (b. September 19, 1928) by revisiting Gilbert and Frank's tribute to the beloved actor (and memorable podcast guest). Also in this episode: "Legends of the Superheroes"! Uma Thurman does the Batusi! Adam teams with the Three Stooges! The genius of Neal Hefti! And the unsung brilliance of “Lookwell.” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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BEDMGM.com for Ts and Cs. 19 plus to wager, Ontario only. Gambling problem? Call Connex Ontario at 1-866-531-2600. BEDMGM operates pursuant to an operating agreement with iGaming Ontario. Hi, this is Gilber... Hi! Yeah, hi! How are you? Uh, okay. What is this? Uh, this is Gilbert Gottfried and I'm here with Frank Santopadre and this is Gilbert and Frank's amazing colossal obsessions.

Very good. And we've got someone in the room whose help I don't need. Mr. Rayburn? I'll try to track him down for you. Yes, okay. What about Gene Rayburn? Would you prefer that? Oh, that would be good.

Yeah, I have to get a shovel. Yes. You know, I'm kicking myself. We just had Peter Asher in here. You sang Lady Godiva. Yeah. And as you were singing it, I thought he should be breaking into a little Jerry when you get to the lady part. I know. Believe me. Did it occur to you? When I started going, lady! The producer in me was saying, why didn't I tell him to do that ahead of time? All right, so Paul's here, Gilbert's here, and we're going to talk about someone we just lost. Another one of our podcast guests has left us.

And this was a particularly sad one and they're all sad. That's Adam West. Adam West the all-time greatest Batman. And I remember that I think was at my apartment. No I'll tell you where we did that one. We did that one at...Dara who is your friend? She lent us her photo studio. Dara is gonna come in and join this so we can we can get this right, you know I listened to it today and the audio I was cringing at the audio and how far we've come since Frank is Frank Frank has set us a new standard. What is your friend's name? Adrian right we did it Adrian studio. That's where we did that. Yeah on the telephone

I I know well, I was like in those earlier ones where people would send us emails going, was that done in, you know, Lincoln Tunnel? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Listening to it today, you know, what's funny is Adam sounds better than we do. Oh, much better. We're in this echoey room. And, you know, the great Frank Verderosa was not in our lives then. I'm looking right at you, Frankie. If he was, we'd have no copy of it. This echoey room, the great Frank Verderosa was not in our lives then. I'm looking right at you, Frankie. If he was, we'd have no copy of it.

Obviously, we would have lost it. There is no compliment that Gilbert can't turn into an insult. I'm FaceTiming my daughter goodnight while you're complimenting me. Okay, fine. You do some important things to do. But he was great. He really delivered. And he he was I listened to it today I went back and listened to it today and and you know, you're breaking his balls about things like zombie nightmare

Oh, yes, and he's going with it and he's just he's funny He's you know, of course as I said on Facebook, he made self deprecation into an art form and and the funny thing is is like This might come as a surprise to you, but sometimes I can be a smart ass and insult people. Really? No. And it's like with Adam West, it was just like there was nothing you could say about him that he couldn't beat you to it about himself.

Oh yeah. Yeah, he's making jokes like send me the check. Yeah, yeah. You're asking about working with the three stooges and he's going oh just send me the check So I was look I went back and listen to the episode Yeah, and I did a little bit of research nothing compared to what you guys do, but I did I have some breaking news. Let's hear it. Breaking news. Breaking news.

Uh oh. It was drugs. Yeah. Not that news. This is, so I know you're tired of hearing me talk about La La Land on the podcast, so forget I ever mentioned it. But I went back and saw the Batusi episode or the Batusi episode. Oh, well it's in the pilot.

Yeah. It's in the first one with the Riddler. Right, so you can find it on YouTube. And then I thought immediately of Emma Stone in the pool scene in La La Land, one of the pool scenes, while Ryan Gosling is in the Hokie, you know, band. And she does this ridiculous dance by the pool that is very reminiscent of the Batusi. And I feel like some legal action may be necessary. Doesn't Uma Thurman break into it in Pulp Fiction? Yes, it's the eye thing. And he claims, Adam claims that he made that up in the car on the way to work. He mentioned in the episode, which is in that clip too, he walks into the bar and he walks quietly and he says, try not to attract too much attention. Yes, I should wish to attract too much attention.

That's it. And also a lot of people have been emailing and tweeting about that. He did go into detail about being kicked out of an orgy with frank caution. Right, well it was the lead in the New York Post article It's another article in the post today about his sex life for these boys, but it's just all this crazy stuff coming out I think they took a lot of that from Burt's book. Oh, yeah

Yeah, because he said Bert Burt likes to embellish things, but I'm okay with it because he made me sound like King Kong But it's a sweet episode I mean I cringed a little at the like I said at the subpar audio because it's in the pre-verterosa era but I couldn't believe how sweet he was with us and how generous he was and how again how much of a sense of humor he has about his career And so willing to put himself and his career down. Yeah. In a funny way. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And why oh why did he turn down Bond when Cubby Broccoli came falling to ask him to do Diamonds Are Forever? That was a major mystery. Yeah. Well he sort of said it just it just wouldn't be right. It should be a British actor. That Bond should be a Brit. He stood on principle, right?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. William West Anderson of Walla Walla, Washington. Was his real name. Born in 1928, September 19th. We asked him too about his name, about where Adam came from, and he just liked the way Adam looked with West, which was obviously his real middle name. And I had the pleasure of meeting him twice too and before we sign off I'll tell him I'll tell two quick stories about him but he

was good with you and he paid you a great compliment my god you'll take to your grave yes Adam West the original and greatest Batman said to me he he said you know Gilbert you would make a good penguin isn't that nice that was amazing I was I my whole body was in chills compliments you've gotten yeah I've had Carl Reiner tell you he's a fan a dick Van Dyke when he was on told me I would have made a great Buddy Sorrell and Buddy Sorrell as the penguin. Yeah And Dick Van Dyke knew from penguins Orson Welles told me I would have done a better directing job in It would have been a much better film. You would have been better than Agnes Moorhead in the Magnificent Embers.

I'm just glad that Adam's compliment meant so much to you. Oh yeah. What else did you come away with Paul? Well, we also talked about, or you guys talked about, he was in a pilot with Bill Shatner. Oh yeah, they did Alexander the Great. Which is interesting because they both have what I think of as the constipated delivery, you know, like just a moment. Yes, the constipated.

You know who does a great Adam West who did it for us? It's Dana Gould. Oh yeah. Do you remember him doing Adam West? Yes. He does just a dynamite Adam West. I mean, his career, you know, he had a resurgence. I mean, in- Well, with, he had a resurgence. I mean, in-

Well, with Family Guy, he was hysterical on that. Very funny, as Mayor West on Family Guy. But even in the 90s, his career took that, he started kidding himself. It became like Adam West as punchline that he embraced. There's that Simpsons episode where he's at the car show. You know what I'm talking about? Oh, yeah.

The Mr. Plow episode. And- Mr. Plow. And Homer's very excited to meet him. Adam West! And then they get up to meet him and he's just rambling incoherently about how he didn't need a muscle suit to play Batman. And finally Homer says, just walk away slowly. Don't look him in the eye.

And he was just great about it. I mean, he was wonderful about sending himself up and then there was a one and family guy and he sings it to us When oh a little vice yes, yeah Did we make him sing that I can't remember remember he did Yeah, did you did you break his balls too? I'm trying to remember. Did we ask him about Legend of the Superheroes? Because we really should have. Oh, I think we had to have.

I only listened to portions of it today. Boy, oh boy, oh boy, was that a scary TV show. And that was the point in his career after Batman had gone off the air and he was a victim of typecasting, which he's been very public about, and he was trying to, you know, he was taking the jobs that he could get. You think of people like, recently I saw something that Daniel Craig said he would kill himself if he had to do another Bond movie or something, and we know like hundreds of people like that who got famous in some role and couldn't escape it, and most of them get bitter about it and angry sometimes, but he just, he may have gone through a phase there he sort of hinted that I think you did a transition

I think but then he just embraced it and he did you know he did the personal appearances as Batman and all these there were some rough years where he was being shot out of cannons at state fairs and you know showing up at wrestling matches but he did if you look at I Amdb or Wikipedia to the list he's been in like 70 or 80 films. I know even more TV shows I mean it I can't believe how much we have somebody on here once who talked about an answering machine saying whatever it is You're asking the answer is yes. I don't know but anyway, that's kind of what he was like as an actor. Yes. Yeah Yes, I mean we talked to him about I mean he did some interesting things he had he did a show called Elkini popo Where his he was the sidekick of a monkey. Oh

She teaches the monkey which I believe we we talked to voodoo Island with Karloff You talk we talked about zombie nightmare. He did the outlaws is coming with the stooges. Oh yeah. That's at the point in the episode where he says, I don't care Gilbert, just send me the check. Very bad Adam West impression. He did a lot because he'd signed to a contract, a services contract with Warners. Interestingly, two of the other people they signed when he signed were Roger Moore and Roger Smith. Oh my god. They both just passed as well. They all passed within the month. Yeah. Which is strange and interesting. We will return to Gilbert Gottfried's amazing

colossal podcast after this. And now back to the show. He was in the Paul Newman movie called The Young Philadelphians, which is actually a pretty good movie. He did a lot of TV. Did a lot of TV. He did Maverick, Bewitched, Outer Limits, 77 Sunset Strip. He was a working actor. And then Batman came along at the right time.

It's hard to believe that it was only two and a half seasons because it's so important, such a huge thing. I found one interesting thing, ABC canceled the series and NBC was asked if it would run the show and it said yes, but the set had already been dismantled. Yes, they destroyed the sets. Believe me, it's caused me much grief in my life, the fact that the show did not come back. And what did he say about Julie Newmar? Well, he said a lot of things. He used to say she caused curious stirrings beneath his utility. That's it! That's it! I was trying to remember that!

He was fond of that. He was fond of that. Well, he always let a little of that slip through, a little of that stuff. You know, he was a bit of a rake. But I'll tell you, you know, his career is the career of a working actor. That's right. Of a guy who had highs, who had lows, who had low lows and high highs and a lot of middles. And when you look at that IMDB page or Wikipedia

You know when you look at that that journey, I mean he said to us on the show Look, you've got a family to fight. I was gonna say be discriminating several times He mentioned supporting the family, you know, which The rest of us try to do it all kinds of different ways Yeah, I remember him in marriage of a young stockbroker with our pal Richard Benjamin, who we just had on the show. He's in Hooper with Burt Reynolds playing Adam West. He played himself a lot. And of course, the Happy Hooker goes Hollywood.

Although Dick Miller's in that, another podcast guest. Oh my God! Oh and what? Oh God, I forget her name name the name of the happy hooker Oh Xavier Xavier, yes. Yeah. Yes You know, they also said Xavier said we did our bar bit and then they went off and did the naughty bits. Yes Give him props for this skill. He was in poor devil with Sammy Davis jr. And Christopher Lee He was in poor devil with Sammy Davis jr. And Christopher Lee

1973 Wow, yeah, and also I want to recommend to our listeners and I know people know this because I've seen it posted around the web Conan and and our buddy Robert smigel wrote a wonderful pilot called look well Have you seen it? No, you must see it. You must see it and both both of you. Have you seen look? Well, no, I haven't he plays plays an actor, a TV actor named Ty Lookwell, who plays a cop. And basically he's starting to lose it and he thinks he's the cop. So he shows up at crime scenes flashing a badge. And the cops... didn't you used to play... it's really a wonderful kind of... you know I can't imagine anybody being better in that role than him. Oh well I'll have to I'll have to show you guys look well. There was another one there, you dig into these films and all these things he did and there's endless interesting things. The January 6th 1971 issue of

Variety had a section called Italian films in production. And listed there was a movie starring Adam West, Claudine Auger, Giancarlo Giannini, who was in the Elena Wirtmuller movies. And Philippe Hursent, it was called Cold fury to be directed by Bruno Gaboro Produced by Franco. These are your people for no Gilbert loves these movies Dr.. Butcher it was supposed to be And here's the end of the item no evidence exists that the film was completed or released Yeah, why can't it was the dead letter? There were rough times yeah, but but but you, I was looking at the IMDb page and I'm saying, well, he had rough times, but

he kept working. There really aren't gaps. You know, he turns up on a love boat or fantasy, whatever it was, there he was. He was constantly grinding it out. Out on the street at any point. No, he made a good living. Well, he presumably told his agent, look find what you can get, you know. Yeah, he even agreed to do our show. That's pure desperation. That's one of the lows. That's one you know, Rich. And he was, you remember a show called The Detectives with Robert Taylor and Mark Goddard from Lost in Space? He was on

that show. Yeah, does that ring a bell? Not that one. Yeah, that's a picture on his Wikipedia page. And as the story goes, William Dozier, the Batman creator, producer, saw him in a Nestle's quick commercial, which is on the web. Captain Q?

Right. Where it was like a bomb thing. That was the key to his success. That's how he got started with that commercial, because that was noticed. Right, it's how he got started with that commercial. Right. Because that was noticed. Right. It's a little bit of a Bond thing. Right.

You know, and when you're a kid and I, you know, and when the show aired, I was five, you know, you don't know what camp is. No. Yeah. I don't know, you're older than me, so I, you know, did you watch Batman? Yeah, and I... In first run? Two. Yeah, yeah, and I too was kind of like I wasn't sure. Right.

Because you were slow for your age. Yes, yes. When I was watching it, I was 45. But I always remember this one part where they rush into a bank. You said that to him on the episode. And one of the tellers goes, oh Batman you don't have to wait online come right up ahead. And he goes no I'll just wait here with the rest of these citizens. You know, it's a credit to him that he carried that stuff off as well as well as he did. It's not as easy as it looks. It's also not easy to play that kind of comedy. Right.

Let her straight. I mean, he became a master of it. And of course, he beat out Lyle Waggoner. Oh, yes. For the part. And I think you can see his I think his his screen test is still on YouTube as well. And he said he saw Burt and he knew right away that Burt Ward was right for the part.

And they had, I think they had a tumultuous relationship at times too, but a real friendship forged over five decades. And I think what probably formed the friendship was not as much Batman as when they were both showing up at county fairs. Well yeah I mean I think there were I think there were lean times for both of them but you know he talks about how he finally embraced the Batman thing after resenting it for so long and and and making peace with it And and I I hope that I hope he really did make peace with it

I hope he was happy, you know that I know a lot of people would come up to him and say you're my Batman You're you're the only Batman. You know, you're the gent. You're my generation's Batman. I hope that meant something to him Well, you know, we you mentioned we just had Peter Asher in here. And how many times has he done World Without Love? Right. How many times has he done it with Gilbert? We made him do it again. But there's a guy who, in a long, long career, still seemed to be very pleased to sing a

song that was from 50 or 60 years ago. Can you imagine how many times he put on the cape and the costume and posed with kids? That's the same. How many autographs he signed and how many times he posed with a Batmobile? He talked about in the episode when they would be climbing up a building. Right. You know, I could picture it exactly, you know. And they had, he mentioned they had nylon strings.

That's right. They were walking, the building was sideways to hold the cape up. You could see them. exactly you know and they had he mentioned they had nylon strings that's right sideways to hold the capes up you can see it look like gravity was pulling you can actually see the nylon effects are easy they're not easy no you've given me the perfect segue it's just like um well uh Fred G gwin sure he got that he eventually years later right i start proved himself as a character actor it's encouraging that if you stay around long enough i mean it you know an adam came full circle i mean he wasn't a star for a number of years and then he kind of became a star again he finally got

his star on the walk of fame you know thanks to the the efforts of ralph garman and then some of his other friends and that was that was nice to see. And I was actually, earlier this year I was in Palm Springs and he has a star on the Palm Springs Walk of Fame. Indeed he does. I have seen that, I have been there and I have seen that star. And I did have a chance to ask Adam about Caesar O'Mara.

That's right. Well, you know, we're going to figure out a way to put the episode up again. It's out there. You know we'll release it again, but it's out there. You can find it. He may have been the first person you asked. Oh yeah. About Caesar Romero. Oh that could have been. I'm going back. You mean I've mentioned it more than once? Well you asked Julie Newmar. I think that was a showstopper. Oh yes. You asked Lee Merriwether. You certainly asked Burt. Unfortunately Danny Thomas was never a villain on Batman. Right, you would have had the... His Wikipedia page describes him as Adam West who played Batman and was the first person

to be asked about Cesar Romero by Gilbert Gottfried Kama. It will be now when some fan goes in there and monkeys with it. But you bring up the bat climb and I have to tell the quick story. The first time I got to meet him, and I said this on Facebook, obviously it was a show that meant a lot to me. He meant a lot to me. I got to meet him, I was working at FX in 1994, I was writing a show called Back Chat for Jeff Probst before Jeff Probst hit it big. Nobody will know this show.

Anyway, Adam, we had Batman on the network and Adam came to promote his book, Back to the Batcave. And I thought, let's do a promo. I said, let's do a Bat Climb. We'll just get a rope and we'll film, we'll tape Adam, you know, doing a walk across the FX apartment, which is where we used to do the show. And he did it and he was game and he said, okay, fine.

And he really was a sport and he really had a sense of humor about the whole thing. And the next day I saw the promo and they neglected to tilt. Oh my God. These are the early days of cable television. So it looked like he had arthritis basically. It looked like an insane person pulling himself across the floor. Like a terrible mime. With a rope in his head.

And I didn't have the heart to let him know about it. It really was quite funny. In fact, I think I could dig that out. I think I have the whole thing on VHS, and I'll find a way to transfer and dig it out. Maybe I can get it online. But we talk a lot on the show about don't meet your heroes. I think we had Rupert Holmes in here last week saying how he went out of his way to not meet John Lennon,

because he was afraid that he was going to be disillusioned or disappointed in some way. And I'm happy to say that meeting Adam West was in no way a disappointment. He was gracious and fun. And as I said on Facebook, I think he knew what he meant to a generation of people, including me. Yeah, well, the fans, you know, this business about actors hating roles they're tagged with or loving them But the fans want them to like the roles Because we like the characters and we want them to like the character, you know

Well when I got old enough to realize he wasn't Batman Bill Anderson from Walla Walla, Washington That meant less to me. Yeah, but Second quick story. I was he was signing autographs in a comic book store on Jericho turnpike in miniola run from do you remember club? Called chuckles. Oh, yeah, you play that club. I don't know if I Forget them right after Chuckles is gone now for the listeners who remember I had to have you must have you must have because you didn't you wouldn't turn down a gig now There was a comic book store I don't remember the

name of it maybe ten doors down from chuckles that they're both gone now and I called a friend of mine I said Adam West is gonna be that you know I gotta go see him and my friend guy I didn't have a car at the time my friend came picked me up we went to see Adam and you don't want to do that fanboy thing where you're lingering too long yeah we set our peace we talked I knew obviously way too much about the show for his comfort and as he was signing his his ride everybody left the store the guy and his ride was late and it became that awkward thing of what is he gonna do is he gonna wait in the

store the guy that owned the store had to go so we locked up the store and I thought I can't leave him here I'm standing on the street in Jericho Turnpike with Adam West after they closed the store and I've basically used all my a material and we're on the street and we're waiting for his ride and I'm thinking come on you that show meant the world to you you've got gotta have anecdotes, something, not anecdotes, but you know, episode stuff, trivia, come up with anything to talk to him about. And I hear a guy scream out on the street,

I don't believe it. Holy shit, I don't believe it. And this guy comes running up to the two of us and as he gets closer and closer, he yells Frank Santo Padre! It was some guy I went to junior high school with! Was Adam suitably impressed?

This is ridiculous and embarrassing! Just when you thought the situation couldn't get any more uncomfortable. It got more uncomfortable. And he didn't even know who Adam was. He starts talking to me. I'm going to introduce Adam. This is Ariel. I went to junior high school with him. But he was gracious. We talked about my last name. I think he spoke a little tiny bit of Italian and he had some fun with my name. And those are my two meetings with him other than the podcast. But you know, I felt I felt I knew the guy a little bit, even in even in those just those little brief meetings, his personality came across. I didn't know him at all. But I felt a certain kind of I don't know if that makes sense. Yeah, no, I think it does.

You meet somebody and they're warm and you get you get a little access to them. Anyway, those are my two Adam West stories. Can you top either one of those? Anyway, those are my two Adam West stories. Can you top either one of those? Yes. One time he was having a heart attack and I took a pair of nail clippers and performed open heart surgery on him. You were up for the original Ann Harriet. Oh yes. Not a lot of people know that either.

All right Paul, you got some trivia or something for us? Those nail clippers are still in his, just the left side of his chest. They're still there. Yeah, I'd also like to tell people to get his book because it's a lot of fun. Back to the Batcave, his memoir is a lot of fun and there's a lot of good stories in there. Also, I will recommend Adam West Naked, which is a DVD you can buy on his website. It's not an actual... Sounds right up Gilbert's alley.

I didn't get to know him that well. And there's a really funny or die video called Batman's garage sale Which if you haven't seen check it out will he was and talk about sending himself up Yeah, you know he not only sent up Batman set up set up playing the character He sent himself up as an aging actor as a sort of a half half You know what I'm saying as a a half-cracked aging actor who really thought he was Batman. He loved to play that joke. He actually did a movie along those lines. Is that the one where he's playing a version of the character that he's playing? Yeah, that's what Lookwell was about. Yeah, they had

insight into him and he did it so well. Did you have some last-minute Adam trivia? I might have a little bit. Here's something nice. Something that he said of his Batman experience that I kind of liked. He said, regardless of how rough the identity factor has made it to go on, looking at the balance sheet, I'm grateful for the bat. It did more for me than against me. It gave me money, an international name, the kind of recognition that has allowed

me to at least disprove what it caused. That may be tougher than starting from scratch. I don't know." Wow. That's nice. Isn't it? That's nice. That's lovely. That's a nice thing. And then he says, to kind of follow that up and then we can wrap, he says, I think it evolved. I learned a long time ago that because people love Batman, I should too. I learned that I shouldn't resent it even though it prevented me from getting

other roles. I really had to become fond of Batman in order to deal with it. I embraced it. He embraced it and ran with it. This sounds like a psychologically healthy person. I think he was grounded. A lot of people that met him said there were no errors about him him. And you know, just a good sort. And that show, and I said this in my Facebook post, you know, I didn't really... My mother, I used to call my mother into the room to help me read what was on the screen.

And she'd run into the room, drop what she was doing, and come in and yell. She'd say, bam! Ka-pow! Ka-pow! Meow! And my mother is turning 90 in July, and she still talks about that. So I went out to visit her, and she said,

I opened the door, and she said, Adam West died. And I got choked up. And I have been all week. And it's silly because they know, they're they're actors they're not people that were intimate with but I Did he meant something to me meant something to my childhood? I did print up the lyrics I thought maybe Gilbert would sing the theme so I printed up the lyrics. Oh, no Wait it was composed by Neil Hefty.

You bet. You bet. And he also did, well, of course, The Odd Couple. And he did another Jack Lemmon comedy, How to Murder Your Wife. Which you have recommended on this show. Yes. I haven't seen that one. I love Neil Hefty.

Anyway, the entire lyrics can be summed up in one word. Na-na na na na na na na na na na na na na na Batman! That's it! That's the whole lyric! Batman! Batman! Batman! Batman! BATMAN! Beautiful. That's why I printed them up. I didn't want Gilbert to get stuck. Now was that the closing theme or the opening theme?

Oh, God! Now you're getting tricky here. Because they're a little different. That was beautiful. Well, we better come back and do them both in a future episode. I hope wherever Adam is, he didn't hear that. Yeah! Alright, and also I want to recommend

What was I gonna say? Bye. Oh, yes our mini episode about Batman was a lot of fun You will get to hear how obsessed I was with the show and Gilbert less so but but but but just enough And of course if it wasn't for that, we wouldn't have the signature story that has made this podcast. Exactly. I know what it is. Exactly.

Now, what is that one again? I don't know. It escapes me. But we're also grateful for that. Thanks Paul. Thanks for doing the research on that. Sure. Thank you.

This has been Gilbert and Frank's Amazing Colossal Obsessions. Thank you, Adam. We love you. And you admit, you fully admit, to throwing orange wedges at Caesar O'Mara's ass. Good God, no! I'll never look at another orange. Okay.

You guys have, you've done a lot of fun, really fun. You've been a ton of fun, thanks for doing it. Well, I'll let you go. Oh, you've been such a great sport. Thank you. And so much fun. Thank you, Gilbert. We've been listening to the greatest Batman of all time, Adam West.