Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast - Mini #139: Movie Sequels That Surpass the Original

Episode Date: November 23, 2017

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Starting point is 00:01:24 To hear them in person, plan your trip at tnvacation.com. Tennessee sounds perfect. Hi, this is Gilbert Gottfried, and I'm here with my co-host, Frank Sanofatre. And we're once again recording at Dunbeg with our engineer, Frank Verderosa, who lost three shows. I'm over here. Yeah. And our researcher, Paul Rayburn. I'll do the honors.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Yes, yes, yes. He has no peripheral vision to that side of the room. I lost no shows. Yes. Paul is here to tell us movies are in color now. I looked it up. Yes. Oh, Lordy. So I
Starting point is 00:02:33 might, for one story I have to tell you. I was in California because my documentary Gilbert was premiering there. Get the plug in. Yes. Where can we get it? That's on iTunes.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Yes. Dara says it's number two on iTunes. It's number two on iTunes. Do I have that right, Dara? Yes. Thumbs up from Dara. That's right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:00 Number one is what? Felix the Cat? Yes. Yours, mine, and ours with Henry Fonda. Still holding on. And with two, you get Egg World. I think it was six. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:14 Oh, it's six, you get Egg World. Oh, and if it's Tuesday, it must be Belgium. That's it. But anyway, I rent my documentary, Gilbert. And there was going to be a screening out there. And two former podcast guests came in. The guy who was Nicholson from Car 54. Oh, Hank Garrett was there.
Starting point is 00:03:43 Hank Garrett was there. That's great. And he was there. That's great. And he was one of those surprise episodes where you go, you know, you don't know that anyone remembers him, but people loved him. Loved him. And he had a great time. He had the time of his life with us. And the other one, Bill Macy showed up.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Bill showed up? Yeah. At 95. And now at the end of the show, I said, where's Bill Macy showed up. Bill showed up? Yeah. At 95. And now at the end of the show, I said, where's Bill Macy? I want to go over and say hi to him. And they said, well, he was having trouble breathing. He was choking. And it was really, everyone was worried.
Starting point is 00:04:20 And he had to leave right away. And I thought, well, you know, this is it. He's 95. Yeah. Yeah. And so the next day we called Macy's home thinking someone's going to answer and tell us what hospital or morgue he's in. And Bill Macy.
Starting point is 00:04:40 It's a feel-good story that we opened with this week. Bill Macy answers the phone. Okay. And we go, well, we heard you were suffocating in the theater and you couldn't breathe. And he goes, I'm a 95-year-old
Starting point is 00:04:56 Jew. What do you expect? And we said, can we bring you a cup of coffee? And he goes, I already got up early. I drove out and got coffee. And we said, well, we're going to another screening tonight. Can we stop by your house and see how you are? And he said, I'm not at my house.
Starting point is 00:05:19 And I figured that means he's in the hospital. And he goes, I'm 40 miles from my house. I'm at the casino. Yeah, that's where he was when I called him. So he's fine. Yes. And then he came over the next day to the hotel I was at. And he brought his own herring.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Of course. He travels with it In his glove compartment. But basically the documentary almost killed him. Yes. You would have been responsible for Bill Macy's death. And he was great. He was just loads of fun. He was great on the show.
Starting point is 00:05:59 He loved doing the podcast. He said a bunch of times how much he loved doing the podcast. That's nice. He said it was the most fun he's ever had. He's arguably the most fun guest we ever had out of 180, so it's mutual. Another one where we got loads of tweets about him. Oh, my gosh. I read them to him on the phone when he was driving back from the casino,
Starting point is 00:06:23 and he wouldn't let me off the phone. But usually there's 30 or 40 that come in for a guest, and this was something like 80 or 90 responding. Crazy. He kept making me repeat them. It was wonderful. It's one of the nice things about the show, you know, that you take a guy like that. People who wonder if anybody remembers what they did in their whole career, and suddenly they know. Yeah, I get that a lot when I call a guest to do a pre-interview, and say to me you remember me people remember me that warms our heart yeah to to give them this forum and
Starting point is 00:06:50 um they'll be saying that about us in about 18 months whatever happened to them but they won't remember the no what happened to those guys we're gonna fly around here a little bit for this mini episode, and we got some fun stuff, and we got Paul here with us, who's breaking news, as Gilbert said. The TV is now in color. Or was it movies? Movies.
Starting point is 00:07:13 Movies are now in color. I'm not sure about TV. TV, I don't know. I didn't get that up. Oh, and they might be getting rid of the rabbit ears on TV. Really? Yes. And the Dumont Network folded.
Starting point is 00:07:24 Yes. Paul brought us that tidbit about an hour ago. And the Colgate Comedy Hour might be going off the air. Hitchcock's show is still on, though, isn't it? Yeah. These are three quick things. We usually do Producer of the Month on Patreon, and we pick a person. But this week, we decided to be generous and pick three because these are all interesting
Starting point is 00:07:45 ideas. We're going to try to squeeze them all in to one little tight show here. But Todd Luoto, L-U-O-T-O, he writes, I just found out that Frank wrote garbage pail kids cards. I'd love to hear about that. I'm not going to take up a lot of time with this because there's not much to tell about them, but I will give credit to Mark Newgarden and Art Spiegelman. Art Spiegelman, the cartoonist who went on to win a Pulitzer for Mouse, which is a great piece of work. Who knew during the Garbage Pail days that he had that in him? I don't think he talks about his Pulitzer. I don't think he talks about Garbage Pail Kids very
Starting point is 00:08:26 much, but I'm going to out him and say that he and Mark, who are two geniuses, really, and I was just along for the ride, myself and a lot of other talented artists. But it's fun and I still get, people will send them to me in the mail. There is one funny, to sign,
Starting point is 00:08:42 there is one funny one. My wife walked in to my office one day and she was just kind of like, she was, she was emotional and she was holding a handwritten letter and she said, it's so sweet. Look at this. And it was a, you know, in, in kind of broken handwriting, you know, very, very sloppy handwriting. And she said, and someone sent two included two of my garbage Pail Kids cards to sign. Wow. And she said, it's so sweet.
Starting point is 00:09:07 He's seven or eight or however old he is, and he cares about this, and it's his name, and you have to sign these. And she was very emotional about it. And just to satisfy my curiosity, I Googled the name. He's a 47-year-old guy with a band. Oh, geez. He's a 47-year-old guy with a band. Oh, jeez.
Starting point is 00:09:30 Who probably takes the signed ones that he sends to not just me, but all the artists and sells them on eBay. Well, he's not going to make any money in a band. My wife got so upset because she thought it was a child, and it's not. It's a guy in his mom's basement. But, of course, I signed it and sent. Now, here's another one. Frank P., and you'll appreciate this gilbert he wants to know your take on pop culture uh gilbert's take on famous pop culture
Starting point is 00:09:52 arguments so this is interesting uh he would like to know uh ginger or marianne oh now that's interesting. I never really got into the whole Ginger or Mary. But I guess Mary Ann was kind of hot. Yeah, you didn't pleasure yourself to both? Yeah. That's very democratic. I didn't watch Gilligan's Island that much. But I took Veronica over Betty. Oh, that's important.
Starting point is 00:10:26 I'm surprised at Marianne because I think she's too wholesome for you. You know, Ginger had a little. The voluptuous movie star, redhead type. Aren't you then the girl next door in the short shorts? Yeah. Well, she was kind of, she had a nice body. Dawn Wells. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:42 Yeah. Podcast guest. I wouldn't have turned down Ginger. What about Lovey Howell? Does she get any love? And I always wanted to fuck Jim Backus. I think we've broken some ground again here. That was next on my list.
Starting point is 00:11:03 Thurston or the Skipper? Yes. No, he's some ground again here. That was next on my list. Thurston or the Skipper? Yes. No, he's got a list here. And I wanted to fuck Jim Backus, and when he came, I wanted him to go, Oh, Gilbert, you've done it again. So you've now, it's a mixed metaphor, you've now added Magoo. Yes. Beatles or Stones, he would like to know.
Starting point is 00:11:28 Beatles. Beatles. Hands down, you didn't hesitate on that one. Flintstones or Jetsons? Flintstones. And why? Would you like to give your reasoning about the explain on some of these? I mean, as empty as the Flintstones are, which was pretty lame stuff.
Starting point is 00:11:46 But it was the Honeymooners. Yeah. I thought, like, the Jetsons was, like, an even emptier version of the Flintstones. Interesting. The Jetsons was pretty suburban. I mean, there wasn't a lot of character development there. Right, yeah. Whereas—
Starting point is 00:12:04 Like the richness of Barney and Fred. Yes, the richness. The richness, yeah. Describing them like Othello and Iago. The Jetsons was the second one, so it's always smacked of, okay, we need to throw another one out there. Yeah. It lacked the same kind of originality. Although George O'Hanlon, kind of brilliant as George Jetson, underrated.
Starting point is 00:12:31 And when they got in, what was it, Kudzu on the Flintstones? Oh, the great Kudzu. Kudzu. Kudzu. Yeah, Harvey Korman. Yes. Yeah, Harvey Korman Yes You know where it's like a little
Starting point is 00:12:46 Martian character That only Fred Flintstone Could see and I thought You talk about Jumping the shark So that's where the Flintstones Started to lose you Fred had the DTs
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Starting point is 00:14:17 Addams Family or Munsters? Munsters. Because? I don't know. I never got into the Addams Family. It's interesting. It's interesting. I love both of them for entirely different reasons.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Which was first of those? Oh, God. I think. Because the Addams Family came from the New Yorker cartoons. I'm going to blow this. I always had this idea that the Munsters was the Jetsons, you know, the second one to come along. If we had a researcher here, we could look it up. Well, let's just see if we can find one.
Starting point is 00:14:45 See if you can find a researcher. If I can get my phone out of the pocket of these tight jeans. Come back in two years from now and you'll have the answer. I want to say the Munsters was first and the Adams family was the answer to the Munsters. I'm going to get 25 cents. But I could be asked backward. And that, I've spoken about him before on this show, the guy who played Pugsley. Ken Weatherwax.
Starting point is 00:15:10 Oh, God, he had a miserable life. He was picked on in school. Yeah, and died young. Yeah, he died young when he was in the Army, he got picked on. Now, Felix Silla, who played Uncle, excuse me, who played Cousin Ed on that show, is still around. Do I dare book a little person on this show? Am I just? I asked Gino.
Starting point is 00:15:33 I said, Gino, Felix Silla's alive. Can you call him? That's not, I don't know if that's a good idea. I got an answer, which I'm tempted to hold it a few months just so I don't disappoint Gilbert. Tell us. I know I'm wrong, right? Adam's family was first? The Adams family and the Munsters were 50 years old in 2014. They started the same week.
Starting point is 00:15:53 Wow. In 1964. Wow. How about that? I'm vindicated. And one of the Munchkins is still around. Jerry Marron. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:02 But not in very good shape from what I understand. Because he used to look great. Jerry Marin. Yeah. But not in very good shape from what I understand. Because he used to look great. He did. You didn't harbor any personal attraction. He was people's sexiest midget alive. Six years running. Forgive me. But then the next year, he lost out to Michael Dunn.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Miguelito Loveless. How fucking funny was that Jackie Martling story about Michael Dunn and Sophia Loren? Oh! God, that was funny. I don't know if we talked about this, but I got into a conversation with Jackie the Joke Man. with Jackie the Joke Man. And you know how in Hollywood Boulevard she's having a funeral for her pet chimp? Yes, in Sunset Boulevard.
Starting point is 00:16:52 Oh, Sunset Boulevard. Right, right. And according to legend, these old actresses and rich women in L.A. would train chimps to go down on them. I will never look at J. Fred Muggs the same way. Good boy. Wow.
Starting point is 00:17:21 But now Planet of the Apes gives me a hard-on. Good boy. Wow. But now Planet of the Apes gives me a hard-on. That is a scandal. That whole story, we're going to have to do a future episode about that. Now I'm intrigued. Because I think during the making of Sunset Boulevard, when they're doing the funeral scene,
Starting point is 00:17:46 Billy Wilder yells to Gloria Swanson. He yells to her, remember you're fucking the monkey. Wow. Yeah. So the whole thing was like a sick, dirty Hollywood in-joke to have the monkey in the movie. Yes. Wow. Okay, I'm going to try to
Starting point is 00:18:01 keep going. This is a tough one for you. I'll be talking with Kelly Ripper tomorrow about monkeys going down on old ladies. I think I know your answer to this one, too. Leno or Letterman? Jace. The answer is your cell phone goes off. Of course.
Starting point is 00:18:25 Is that Jay calling in? Okay. So which one? Leno or Letterman. Leno or Letterman. Well, oh, well, you know, both of them actually had me on. Right. In different capacities. But Letterman used to have me on to do stand-up,
Starting point is 00:18:43 and Leno used to have me on to do stand-up, and Leno used to have me on to do those bits. And the bits in the beginning of the show I loved doing. Right, right. Oh, you were great. Yeah. You were with Jack Riley and all those sketches and those game shows. And what's his name who was later on the Sopranos? Sharippa.
Starting point is 00:19:03 Yes. Steve Sharippa. Funny guy. Yeah. And lastly, Godfather or Godfather 2. Wow. That leads right into our next topic. There we go.
Starting point is 00:19:13 I just did a segue. I got a segue. See, I thought this through, Paul. To quote Letterman, they don't give these shows to just chimps. You know, I think I may have to go with Godfather 2. Controversial, but I agree with you. I do too. It's a deeper, richer film.
Starting point is 00:19:31 I would say, so we wanted to talk about sequels. Which sequels were better than the originals? Funny you should say that, Paul. Had that occurred to you, Frank? Not at all. The spontaneity on this show is stunning, I think. And it's funny to think, and then years later, Godfather 3 was so awful. Yes, atrocious.
Starting point is 00:19:55 But I would say Godfather 2 is the best sequel compared to its original. Well, we're all in agreement then. But Paul Byrne, B-Y-R-N-E, wrote in with that very, he posted on Patreon, and he suggested it for a Producer of the Month episode. There you go. So you see there was a segue. There was a method. There was a method to my madness. I lured you
Starting point is 00:20:18 in with The Godfather versus Godfather 2. So really, what the point of this episode was going to be is talking about sequels that are better than the originals. And they brought in these characters that just seem to fit perfectly. Usually, when they bring in a character, they stand out like a sore thumb.
Starting point is 00:20:37 In Godfather Part 2, you're talking about? Yeah. Like Hyman Roth? Oh, yes. With Lee Strasberg and Michael Vigazo. Oh, it's Frankie Pantangeli. I mean, the other- Hey, tell me Michael Corleone did this, Michael Corleone did that.
Starting point is 00:20:55 And I said, yeah, sure. A playwright, by the way, Michael Vigazo. He wrote A Hat Full of Rain. Really? Yeah. But, I mean, the other thing about that, the way it was both a sequel and a prequel. Oh, yes, yes. I'm not sure there's another example of that.
Starting point is 00:21:10 And he so beautifully handled going back and forth between the two stories. Yeah. And HBO runs this thing from time to time called The Godfather Saga, where they have, have you seen this, where they have the deleted scenes? Oh, they clip it. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, they put the lost scenes into the story.
Starting point is 00:21:26 It's like a 10-hour thing. And all the scenes that were cut from the originals, you could lose them and never miss them. Right. Yeah. You know why they were. You know why Coppola made the decision. I've never seen that.
Starting point is 00:21:36 I don't know that he willingly went back and put them in. We'll ask our listeners. We'll know. But did he willingly put them back in or he was just, they made say we can we can cash in again here with a third version of this. And Michael Corleone had a lot of buffers. Joe Spinell. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:54 And oh, and I can honestly say some of my best friends have been Italian Americans. Some of my best friends have been Italian-Americans. That's an actor named G.D. Spradlin. Yes. Who was in a lot of stuff. And, boy, you're right. They introduced so many wonderful characters into the second film. And you think, oh, these are going to be Johnny Ola, played by our pal Dominic Chianese. Oh, my God, yes.
Starting point is 00:22:23 It is. I think when people have conversations about what is the best sequel, that's the one that comes to mind. But I know there's another one very near and dear to Gilbert's heart. What year are we talking here? I'm talking about 1935. 1935. I know exactly what you're talking about. 1935.
Starting point is 00:22:41 Would this be Bride of Frankenstein? It sure would be. You're on the beam tonight, my friend. Because they had him meet the blind character right out of the original novel. What was that? Well, the blind man shows up in the sequel. Right, right. The first thing my mind always goes to is the young Frankenstein version.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Right, of course, because you can never watch that scene and take it seriously again after Gene Hackman. But it's true. The second movie, and we talked about this with Rupert Holmes and with McGarris and Sven Gulli and some of our horror guests, it's a totally different animal than the first movie. Oh, yes.
Starting point is 00:23:18 It's less stagey. It reflects James Whale's weird... Oh, yeah. They're both James Whale. weird. Oh, yeah. They're both James Whale. Yes, they are. So what happened? I don't know that much about where he was going with that second. He starts putting like religious symbolism.
Starting point is 00:23:35 Yeah, for one. There's a crucifix over the monster. Yeah. Plus also the kink. There's the whole Pretorius character. Oh, yes. You know. And Pretorius is described as a queer old gent.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yeah. Well, the whole film has a gay subtext. Right. And also, and I'm sure we'll get angry mail for this. Go ahead. It has a little bit of camp, which isn't in the first movie. And you're watching it and you're thinking, does this work? Am I accepting this? it has a little bit of camp, which isn't in the first movie. And you watch it and you're thinking, does this work?
Starting point is 00:24:08 Am I accepting this? What do you think of the scene where the bride is introduced and suddenly Karloff is doing that little, he's wooing her? Do you buy it or does it take you out of the movie? Well, the other parts, well, I mean, as we've discussed already, Uno O'Connor gets on your nerves real quickly. Yes, she wears out her welcome. But there's so much to love in that film. There's so much to love in both films. But the second film is special, and it's got a lot of weirdness and a lot of originality and a lot of...
Starting point is 00:24:46 That one comes up all over the web, but can you think of any others from your favorite era there around that time where the sequel was better than... Paul's making me think he has a list sitting in his lap. I mean, those are the only two cases where I thought the sequel's been great. Usually the sequel's like a rehash of the first one yeah i mean i have a should i go through a few here just knock off a couple we got about five minutes here what do you think terminator 2 yeah better better than the sequel these are these were on um i think that's why imdb me about sequels. I think people agree on that. Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back.
Starting point is 00:25:27 Yeah, Gilbert's not a Star Wars guy. Godfather. Star Trek II, by the way, is a better film. Star Trek II, The Wrath of Khan. Yeah, which Gilbert's also not into. That's right. Aliens, another one. This is the dumbest title of a sequel.
Starting point is 00:25:43 The first movie is called Aliens, and the sequel is called Aliens. Again, a different movie. I like the title of a sequel. The first movie is called Aliens. The sequel is called Aliens. Again, a different movie. I like the first one a lot. In Aliens 1, the first Aliens, I liked seeing Sigourney Weaver's ass crack. Well, the question is, did we see more or less of it in the second movie? And we're going to have to dispatch a team. Our staff. If we ever get her on the show, that's his opener.
Starting point is 00:26:14 So here's one I think you probably know. Yeah. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. Yeah, that's the third one. That's the third one. That's the third one. In the May of No Name. In the Dollars trilogy.
Starting point is 00:26:26 Yeah, what do you think? Fistful of Dollars. Are you familiar with those? Not the sequels. Yeah. Oh. Yeah, the Fistful of Dollars. Oh, okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:34 And the second one was for a few dollars more. Yeah. And then the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly, which is the best film of the three. Who were the Good, the Bad, and the Ugly? Well, what's his name? From Godfather 3. Eli Wallach. Eli Wallach.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Eli Wallach was the ugly. Yeah, he was. And Lee Van Cleef. Lee Van Cleef was the bad. Right. And getting back to Godfather 3. Yes. That their characters looked like they were shoehorned, the new characters.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Yeah. Well, he didn't have Duvall. Oh, yeah. He didn't have, you know, he didn't have Khan, obviously. He didn't have the characters who were dead. And how did the sister- They had to make Diane Keaton somehow come back into his life, which didn't make a lot of sense. That was awful because what's so powerful is that he closes off from everyone.
Starting point is 00:27:30 Well, and you're invalidating what you've worked so hard to establish, successfully establish in the first two films, which is the price that he pays by losing her. Yes. And suddenly she's back. And the son is an opera star. Right. Yeah, and Andy Garcia.
Starting point is 00:27:49 And Winona Ryder was cast as the daughter, and then something happened, and he made the fatal mistake of casting his own daughter, who became a great filmmaker in her own right, by the way. I just saw her remake of the beguiled with colin farrell which is excellent uh but but boy that film and i feel bad for her because she's just yeah it wasn't of her doing and she was young and but even george hamilton and and wallach and all and another one it's it just makes what we think maybe is the best sequel ever and then makes a terrible third film. In his defense, he resisted Paramount for 20 years
Starting point is 00:28:28 and said no a thousand times, and I guess they wore him down. And then one guy... Chico needed the money. One of the murders is a guy getting stabbed with eyeglasses. I don't even remember that. I remember seeing it and being depressed for days. Just thinking, why did this have to happen? And the big ending where Michael, oh, Michael, she shot his daughter.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Michael called the only daughter. And her last words is looking at Michael going, dad. And it's like, this should have been a lot more powerful. You know what that movie's missing? You. Yes, yes. You should have been in Godfather 3 as
Starting point is 00:29:15 the Jewish consigliere. You should have reprised your Sidney Bernstein role from Beverly Hills Cop 2. If we're ready to wrap up, one more to just take us out on a high note. Okay, so this one, it's hard to even think of these as sequels. There have been so many of them. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:31 But favorite Bond picture. And I don't just mean the ass crack of the Bond girl in the picture, but the actual movie. Well, they consider, I've seen some of these articles, they consider, they would put Goldfinger on this list as a successful sequel. But can you really think of the bond pictures as sequels you know they're their own that's that's right i mean goldfinger is certainly one of the best stretch but so is from russia with love which was right yes they're both better than dr no right but right i don't consider either of them sequels do you
Starting point is 00:29:58 gill but well dr no had had a jewish Oh, now that you bring that up, somebody wrote and corrected us. A fan said Yafit Kodo was born Jewish. He was born Jewish? That he did not convert. His father was a Jew. His father was a Jew? Yes, he was born Jewish. Two people corrected me, and I had to change this week's synopsis.
Starting point is 00:30:21 Wow. So there you go. I thought for sure he converted. So did I. We even put it in the synopsis, but we So there you go. I thought for sure he can do it. So did I. We even put it in the synopsis, but we were proven wrong. But you know he looks Jewish. He does.
Starting point is 00:30:31 He does. I think he's Ashkenazi. Here's one last one. Shot in the Dark. Shot in the Dark. Better than the Pink Panther. Yes, yes. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:30:40 They didn't have it right in the first one. They were close. With Elka Summers. Yeah, but the character was forming still, and the second movie is better. The great nudist colony scene with the guitar. And, of course, Beyond the Poseidon Adventure. No, I'm kidding.
Starting point is 00:31:00 Poseidon 2. And Sting 2 with Mac Davis. Yeah, Jackie Gleason and Terry Garr. We can do a whole – thank you, Paul Byrne, for the idea. And this was fun, and we'll do more on it down the road. But we could do a whole episode about the World's Worst sequels. Oh, yeah. We could go for weeks.
Starting point is 00:31:18 We could live for weeks on that one. Well, the famous bad sequel, the one to Greece. It's not good. Yeah. Were you aware there was a Birds 2? Well, the famous bad sequel, the one to Greece. It's not good. Yeah. No. Were you aware there was a Birds 2? Birds 2.
Starting point is 00:31:31 Yes. I did a lot of research on sequels, and I don't know. I was on Uproxx or Reddit or one of those sites, and I found these really bad sequels that I didn't know existed. There was a Lawrence of Arabia sequel with Ralph Fiennes that was for TV. And Another Midnight Run. It was called Another Midnight Run. Did you know that? No.
Starting point is 00:31:53 I don't know what happened to these things or they went direct-to-video. Well, there's any number of Jaws sequels that get worse as they go on. Jaws kept getting worse. They should have made the comedy. National Ant Poem was going to make Jaws Three People Nothing. Like some of these things, once they get it, you know, so Friday the 13th,
Starting point is 00:32:14 people like Friday the 13th Part 2, but there's Friday the 13th, Friday the 13th Part 6, Freddy vs. Jason, Friday the 13th Part 2, Friday the 13th Part 7, The New Blood, and on and on. Oh, and there was Leprechaun in the Hood. I got one.
Starting point is 00:32:32 August is an old one. I think Magnum Force, the second Dirty Harry movie, is better than Dirty Harry. That's a good one. Yeah. So there. What I love with sequels. Send me hate mail. I don't care.
Starting point is 00:32:43 With sequels, all the characters forget what happened in the first one. That's it. You know, it's like Jaws 2, nobody believes there was ever a shark in the water. I watched some of it the other day, and it's wretched. Yeah. And the poor guy that had to follow Spielberg. Yeah. And just cash the check because Universal said, yep, we got to have it.
Starting point is 00:33:08 And then the mayor has to be the asshole all over again. Poor Murray Hamilton. You know, he's been disgraced in the first movie. He's got blood on his hands and he's got to come back a second time and be a schmuck again and say, what? Sharks? Roy Scheider is in the scene, too. And Michael Caine cashing his check so obviously. Jaws 4.
Starting point is 00:33:32 Yes. The revenge. Where he, there's a scene, too, where he falls in, he's in the ocean, because I think the shark eats a helicopter. He's in the ocean because I think the shark eats a helicopter. And he climbs out of the water and he's not a drop of water on him. There you go. Yeah, he's totally dry. By the way, he's also in Beyond the Poseidon Adventure.
Starting point is 00:33:57 Yes, yes. All right, Mr. Guy. All right, Mr. Guy. Okay. So this has been Gilbert and Frank's amazing colossal obsessions. And we found out pictures aren't sound. Now, wait a minute. I actually answered a question in this episode. Paul was a valuable asset this week.
Starting point is 00:34:23 In comparison to any of his others. He's valuable. In comparison to a drawing of Paul that we propped up in the chair. The poster that we made of Gesso. You guys are going to make me cry. Thank you, Paul. We'll see you next time. Thank you.

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