Girls Gone Canon Cast - ASOIAF Episode 205 — ACOK Arya VIII
Episode Date: October 20, 2023Weasel has had a hard day's night, and she's been working like a dog, no thanks to Weese. Well, he won't be barking orders that much longer. SANSA/ARYA Paradise AMV: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=...gWel9lPz6Vk&t=1s&ab_channel=ChemicalAttraction Check us out on Bluesky! https://bsky.app/profile/girlsgonecanon.bsky.social --- Eliana's twitter: https://twitter.com/arhythmetric Eliana's reddit account: https://www.reddit.com/user/glass_table_girl Eliana's blog: https://themanyfacedblog.wordpress.com/ Chloe's twitter: https://twitter.com/liesandarbor Chloe's blog: liesandarborgold.com Intro by Anton Langhage
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Hello and welcome to Girls Gone Canon Reads A Song Of Ice And Fire Episode 205 Aria 8 In A Clash Of Kings.
I am one of your hosts, Chloe.
And I am another one of your hosts, Eliana.
And are you ready for another episode with the ghost in Heron Hall?
Yeah, this is a true crime podcast called only girls in the canon sorry i'm just
kidding i watched season one of only murders in the building eliana like kind of convinced me
without like it was more of like a passing by convincing she was like you'd like it was a soft
sell and it was it was fucking great no it was so i mean i binged it but yeah no yeah yeah very soft
uh great job though it was very well done i really liked it to our good buddy warren if you're I mean, I binged it, but yeah, no, yeah, yeah. Very soft. Great job, though.
It was very well done.
I really liked it.
To our good buddy Warren, if you're listening, which he wrote in tonight, so I know he's
going to be listening.
He likes my show recommendations, so I recommend it.
Season one of Only Murders in the Building was fucking fun.
I love I love that show.
I think it's so interesting, funny in regards to like the podcast aspect and things.
We produce ours in a very different way.
I haven't listened to that much true crime podcasts.
Have you?
Or if I have my own opinions on it, I've watched enough TV on it.
It's fine.
Sometimes it's just so and the show makes fun of it a lot, which is kind of cool.
Like they make a lot of fun of the genre, which I mean, I'm not saying a song of ice
and fire podcasts are the highest literary tier of podcasts that you can really commit to.
But I'm just saying that they at least make fun of themselves.
They get their flaws.
They were like, ho, ho, ho, jokes about true crime.
But they do have this line in the finale of season one, no spoilers, where they're like, the only podcast to be investigating as they go.
And I'm like, that's us.
We're just recording as we go.
You know, we're changing every day, just like them.
Things are happening every day that influence us.
So no, there was also that great,
there's like a threat to someone to end the podcast
before they get ended.
And I was like, that's us.
People are demanding daily, end the podcast now.
But here we are every day, bravely.
Yeah, but you couldn't end the podcast
for the low fee
of $8,000
a month each
each we've changed the terms
since no one took us up the first time
the terms have changed
auntie up double down
so dealer's choice
royal flush.
I'm just saying things now.
Okay.
There's lots happening.
You're here to hear about what's happening if you're at the front of the episode.
You're here for the banter.
You're here for the fun, the glamour.
And I'm here to tell you all about it.
Patreon episode this month.
What?
What's a Patreon episode?
You are asking me.
You're crying.
You're begging to know
i'm here to tell you every month we have bonus patreon episodes you have to be a vip in the
patreon tier stranger or above that's the five dollar tier and up if you pay that or if you're
in any other tiers above that you get the episode we've put out countless of these there's like 60
plus episodes that's hours and hours and hours and hours of content and it's there for you a whole backlog and this month
it's amazing we've done 60 episodes we've done that amazing we've done like almost 400 episodes
it's getting kind of crazy out there this month month, our Patreon episode is inspired.
Shout out to Aliana. She named it,
and it's gorgeous. It's everything to me.
The house that went
away. We're going to talk about House Went from
A Song of Ice and Fire. You're going to
love it. You got to get in there.
You are shaking your fists.
You're like, how do I get this episode? You have to go to
patreon.com slash
girls gone canon,
C-A-N-O-N. That's us. We're the girls. We're going canon all the time. And patrons get a
bunch of other perks. Not just that. Aliana, what's another perk they get?
So if you are a patron in the Thunder tier and above, that is $10 and up you get access to our Girls Gone
Canon Discord which is full of
fun channels and
shenanigans as
well as of course once a month we have
our brunch slash happy hour
brappy hour and
this month is on Saturday
October 21st tomorrow
if you are listening to this on the same
day as the public release,
it is tomorrow.
And we've got something very special.
We, as we said last episode and the episode before that,
we've somehow just like really thrown in a lot of things this October.
We planned for Aria to be in Heron Hall in October.
And by that, I mean, we really truly did not.
But we also did.
I'm just spreading misinformation. Podcasts are a spectrum, you know, they up they flow.
Yeah, you never know where they're gonna end up, especially when you're following
the lines that we're following. And yeah, we didn't know exactly where in Aria we'd be,
but we figured we'd be somewhere. And now we're in Harrenhal. And so everything is Harrenhal this month.
We're all about the scary castles.
But for our Discord brunch, brunch happy hour is kind of fun.
It's just a time that if you are on the Discord in the Thunder Tier,
you can hang out, and we kind of call it brunch happy hour
because so many of you are from all over.
You're from everywhere.
Your times are everywhere.
Like E.T., P.T., M.T., G.T., whatever T and G gin and tonic you want to drink.
Oh, my God.
See, there's so many time zones.
So 3 p.m.
Eastern time is when it's going to be.
If you log on on Discord and your time zone is set in your profile, it'll tell you when to be there. Your time. So don't worry about the translation. It won't get
lost. And it's a fun little thing. We do some some some Jackbox games once in a while. And
this weekend will be no different. It's going to be a Halloween themed party. So show up in
a costume. Don't make me be the only one. Eliana, I'm looking at you. I was like, oh god, oh god.
You better figure it out.
I'm starting to give you ideas in passing so I hope you start, you know, thinking about it.
I'm gonna
have some really fun tricks and treats
for you. We're gonna have some Jackbox Games,
a custom game, fit around
Girls Gone Canon culture, as well as
a Song of Ice and Fire and other fandom
fun prompts.
So come play that. that winners will get some
treats some tricks and some treats so we can't wait to see you tomorrow if you're listening to
this today when it's released 10 21 23 and there's really more popping off this month like again
loaded fucking october uh red october if you're a Phillies fan.
Thank you very much.
And it's hard being from the best place in the world.
That's the baseball, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Good job.
Eagles, not so great.
But my team, the Lions, Detroit Pride,
and I don't care about sports usually,
but this year's kind of fun and heated,
and I'm going to bars with friends.
Oh, fun.
I don't care still, but I just like being right uh you know me it's a turn on no but lions are having
a great year my baseball team made it to the playoffs which i do they all make it to the
playoffs unsure but apparently we we did no they don't terribly we did so bad during the playoffs
you have to win like tears like matches matches, like seeded tiers and matches.
My roommate just explained it to me.
But you have to like win a handful of matches at each team back and forth.
And if you hit four, I think the magic number is four.
Then you go to the next one.
Then you go to the next one.
Then you make it to the playoffs.
So congrats to your team.
Oh, okay.
That's not bad.
Apparently we did really good during the season.
But it seems like maybe people just like crap out come playoffs or like we're not getting paid more maybe or
something and they're like we already did it and they just like give up yeah i don't want to talk
about this anymore last year was really disappointing for the phillies oh yeah it was a
really bad time no but like y'all almost won i was there i was like i was ready i was like
wow i'm gonna be here during i it was going to be like partying.
Yeah.
We're going to grease the poles in the street.
No, it was sad.
It was devastating.
And there wasn't even like riots.
Like in Michigan, I used to have like the MSU life in Lansing.
Like you would see MSU burn couches and shit.
But like Phillies are like respectful.
Like all the fans were like, well, that's too bad.
I guess we'll just go home.
You only get a riot if they win.
Apparently. That's how it works. Well, that's what they're I guess we'll just go home. You only get a riot if they win. Apparently.
That's how it works. Well, that's what they're good for.
Yeah. Well,
besides the Phillies winning everything,
they better.
I gotta shout out that we...
Real sport talk this time. Holy shit.
It's literally been like 300
something episodes and we just talked about
sports maybe for the first time. We're different. Who are we?
We've changed. We've changed. That's for you all at home. is character growth if aliana keeps that in i hope you all appreciate that that's like that's i want them to know that that's a lore drop i want
them to know that we contain multitudes i'm keeping it in women are complex i just think okay um so this is going great our friend shiloh she's been on the podcast before
go all the way back to brianne you'll find shiloh and shiloh is an amazing author and professor
and that girl kicks ass and dude her cats great cats um these are not even great qualifiers though like shiloh has some
wonderful works she's an academic she has medievalism in a song of ice and fire and game
of thrones and she's putting out a new book the medieval worlds of neil gaiman we saw neil gaiman
actually like a year ago together with george conversation in New York. George was with us.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It was a great time hanging out with George and Neil and first name basis.
But Shiloh has a great book that's out.
You can get it,
but you can also get it for free if you listen in and win the giveaway we're doing with her on our episode that will be out at the end of October on.
Actually,
this is kind of cool.
We're venturing.
We're going to talk about Neil Gaiman's worlds,
Shiloh's book, and The Sandman.
I'm watching it.
I haven't read the comics.
Eliana's watched and read.
Shiloh's definitely read and watched.
They're guiding me through my journey, actually.
Thank you.
I really appreciate it.
We're all going to get together,
chat a little about Gaiman,
chat about how you can get
a free copy i think signed oh my god by shiloh yeah good for y'all otherwise how you can just
buy a copy if you want instant gratification sometimes it's good you know a little dopamine
hit yeah i'm excited for this episode that will be your last episode of the month it'll be a great
episode with some comprehensive chit chatchat about the worlds of Gaiman
and Shiloh's books.
And then next month, we'll
come back with Arya.
Yeah, and so yeah, I'm excited to talk
about the Sandman and Gaiman stuff.
I know that we've dropped a few things every now
and then, right? Like about it. This one
will not... We'll talk a little
bit about a lot of the things,
but when we come back in November,
we have something really fun to kick off the month with all of you.
We have a special guest, you know,
for those cold, brisk nights and air if you are in the Northern Hemisphere.
We are going to be joined by Kissed by Fire's host, B-Word.
Yeah, we also, you know us, we like to collect all of them.
We don't just like to get one.
This isn't just Monopoly with one card.
You know, I want all of them.
I also know that there's an episode in the future,
and you won't get it out of me.
You won't understand the POV.
I'm not giving any of you any POV hints ever again,
because we're so close. We're throttling towards the end you'll never know who's next but in the future
definitely in the future we're getting stephan too yes so you gotta stay tuned you gotta come back
but we got b word she is so funny so smart and i need you to know that she had one of the coolest
animal crossing islands I've ever seen
during the pandemic oh that girl's always on trans b word that woman's got it she's got like
she has all the cute little style tricks like one time I came to her island and she had these cute
little like heart-shaped rock things going on in style and I'm like I had a couple of them too but
I had to google how to do it and I like, that girl was like born with this style.
She was in it.
I was very jealous.
I was like, I want to have a cool island.
So she has flair.
She has style.
And she's fucking smart.
I bet her island's like 80 times better now and cooler than it already was.
But they have some cool episodes.
Like besides her just artistic integrity on Animal Crossing,
I need you to know that Beward and Steph have some funny fucking episodes
and some like insightful, insightful conversations on their podcast.
And as episodes, it's kind of fun.
They approach it from a book approach and not necessarily on a POV at a time
or a chapter by chapter read, which is fun.
It allows for some creativity and I really appreciate their insights. So I think you all will really appreciate hearing them as well. And I can't wait to have
them on. Yeah, I'm really excited about having both of them on. You know, I was excited when
their when their podcast started, like you said, like they're doing something I think really
interesting. So they're both like so smart. And we've had the joy. Well, I don't know if Chloe's
also met both the hosts, but I've had the joy of hanging out with B-Word in person.
So good to reconnect.
Yeah, one of the first times I met B-Word in person, it was raining.
I think it was ice and fire kind of raining terribly.
And I gave like a no chance, no choice Brienne style speech about going out to the parties that were happening at the cabins.
Remember that night?
Yeah, that was probably one of B-Word's really first few impressions of impressions of me and they didn't come they stayed in the lobby where it was dry and i
walked out and got drenched and went to the party i stayed in the lobby with them because i was like
i'm not going out on that rain i well i thought i was i kept being like yeah i'll go eventually
i'll go eventually and in my heart of hearts i knew i was like i'm never fucking going
fuck that i think i had a 50 hit you were there yeah you were there for that moment that's great that's awesome i think i had a 50% hit. You were there. Yeah, you were there for that moment. That's great. That's awesome.
I think I had a 50% ratio of getting people
to go with me. I got a couple people
to go, and we all trekked there,
and about halfway there, a couple people were like,
I don't remember why I came.
And I'm like, yeah, I have that effect on people. I did not come in
that right now. I was like, no.
No. When we all did get there,
though, I will tell you, everybody was happy afterwards.
They were like, it was worth it.
So that's okay.
It's fine.
It's fine.
It was also worth it.
No,
everybody was having a great time.
They were jamming with scat and Matt from Davos fingers.
It was a really fun time.
So I didn't want to take,
that was the thing.
I didn't want to take people away from that,
but I hoped that people would come together.
So I didn't have to be the villain.
I was like, I want you all to go to the place i'm going so we can still hang out so it didn't
work out but it's life i can't believe you resisted my many charismas i'm very you are
you're very persuasive but i'm also very good at being like my speech was charismatic i'm very good
at just being like i'm'm not going to do that.
So.
We got some emails.
Thank you, everyone, for sending some in.
I know that I scolded all of you last week for not sending any in.
We did get one.
Unfortunately, we had already recorded.
But interestingly, it was about something that we ended up discussing.
So hopefully that all worked out.
Yeah, our friend Alan had sent us an email.
And actually, it was something we kind of chatted out.
Yeah, it was something that came out, you know, that we were already talking
about. So that was cool. Yeah, that was cool.
But we've got a couple of other things. But we did
speak. Yeah, we got
an email from our friend Jason. This is
a new Jason. We've got a couple of Jasons, but this
one's a new one. He's a Jason
to the podcast.
He said, I love your podcast.
I've been a fandom lurker for a while.
I could give you specific positive feedback,
but honestly,
I like it all.
I love this.
More of this.
We're going wild.
Critics are going wild.
This is a great email.
Something very specific.
I hate,
uh oh,
when people laugh too much on podcasts.
I especially love Eliana's cute little laugh through her nose.
Oh,
it's basically ASMR for me.
Keep up the amazing work, Jason.
Okay, that's great because I also love that cute little laugh you do in your nose.
I don't even think about it.
He's just like me for real.
Now I'm like self-conscious now.
You just did it again.
Now I'm like, I can't laugh ever again because I'm thinking about it too hard.
I can't.
I can't.
Oh, whoa.
Oh, whoa. I'm going to change my hard. I can't. I can't. Oh, whoa. Oh, whoa.
I'm going to change my life.
Jason, thank you.
I actually don't know if I can.
Can people do that?
Anyways.
You're going to Gone Girl, Gone Cannon.
What?
You're about to Gone Girl, Gone Cannon.
Change your laugh.
Change your identity.
Oh, I've still haven't watched that movie.
Should read the book and watch.
Should we read the book and watch it?
Anyways, that's another time. Thoughts, thoughts thoughts it's been floated by my roommate before really that we
should read gone girl and watch gone girl and then gone girl gone canon i actually think we
should i think it's a good idea to really make the name confusing you have to the novelty i mean
gone girl gone canon actress i forgot her. I'm not good with actors.
It is a great movie.
Yeah, I hear it.
People were like all about it.
Rosamund Pike?
Yeah, I like her.
People were all about that movie when it came out.
People love quoting it.
They quoted a lot in the makeup subreddits.
Yeah, because we're cool girls.
We're cool girls.
Oh my gosh.
Thanks, Jason, for letting us find the cool girl within us.
Yeah.
We got another email from our friend Warren.
Again, featuring prominently in the Aria episodes.
It says,
Moms, what a peerless episode I've just listened to and how great a guest too,
Sanrixian, was simply perfect.
I particularly loved Chloe's monologue on the perceived value of Aria's wishes
and the discussion
around how her choices are naturally influenced by her age even if she is forced to grow up rather
quickly so I'm gonna set some context for this next paragraph from Warren uh I'm taking this out
but but I left the part where where I guess Chloe calls out out uh one of warren's side he had small ears he said
my little ears are tingling and so anyways warren says my proportionally shaped eyes okay ears i
audible moved immediately to the next chapter scheduled for coverage and there are some points
i'd like to share with you both i love george's introduction to these chapters his language and
very particularly choice of words
really make it feel like you are in Harrenhal with Arya. The particular use of the words
confusion and clangor give a sense of mayhem and noise. Early in, Arya gets excited when
Wheeze promises her some KFC later. Is that really chicken? And Gendry is back, giving Arya
a reality check.
He tells her to watch her mouth as Hot Pie thinks he heard her scream for Winterfell.
She thinks of escape, going so far as to formulate a plan, but fear of Wheeze and the Vargo
Hote hold her back.
We hear more talk-
The Vargo Hote.
I thought that was interesting.
Yeah, he said the Vargo Hote.
Warren really regards and rates Vargo hope continue misinformation about warren
we hear more talk of giants amongst the star coast i've talked about that before and the
mythological references across many cultures to giants which always grabs my attention aria's
principles and core beliefs
remain strong, and she doesn't like liars
as she realizes Whis may not
share this bargain bucket.
Jesus Christ.
And based on this, she makes a decision
that will make her prayer a little shorter.
As she says her
prayer towards the end of this chapter,
it's interesting that she's doing
actual needlework, and also interesting
that as Tywin rides out,
she feels like her wish
was wasted. Looking forward to hearing more
of your thoughts, and so, so,
so enjoying this Arya coverage.
Thanks, Warren!
I really love this email, and it actually
no, there's something in it great
when she's doing her needlework. I was thinking
a little about that, and I couldn't think of anything too much deeper about it
like when I read it, but I was like, oh, interesting.
She's doing needlework while everyone like, I don't know, there's something like about
stasis, right?
And something about, you know, like politics with a spectrum of like liberal to like conservative
and how like Democrats aren't always all the way at the left
right like there is a spectrum of whether you're all the way at the left or if you're more centrist
on some certain ideas and you know it's not like a real straight straight line but there's something
about stasis of people who settle in the middle that are caught in the right place at the right
time with the right circumstances.
And they're able to think that a more central position is
okay or a more neutral position is
okay. And we see that with like Walder
Frey, right? Who's very centrist. He's like,
ah, whoever hooks me up
and gives me some tax leverage and futile
obligations lessened, they're
my boss now and I'll just kill someone
or betray someone. Arya in
this chapter and the next chapter, like she kind of, you know, gets the North
Men in charge and gets Roose Bolton in charge, who is like, he's not really a super lefty
governor, you know, of the castle.
He's kind of like an interesting, Roose is like those people who like socially liberal,
fiscally conservative, you you know like he's not
a super progressive man he's like flay you today pay me tomorrow he's in fact i would argue like
in many ways very conservative right he's like i keep the old way yeah i'm gonna bring i'm gonna
choose this person he's like the problem he is the problem he's like a quiet people and i'm like
you cut out their jokes and i'm not saying that aria needs to
understand the geopolitical nature of the north and the south during wartime because she's like
fucking nine i'm not saying her of all people but it's interesting because the next chapter she's
like i did it the north men are in power and then she's like i'll just go to needlework and she
actually literally because to survive she has to hem her clothing i'm not looking down
on needlework like needlework is actually important someone's gonna fucking make the clothes yeah i
don't make them you know like that's an important thing like you gotta wear clothes dude it's like
it's illegal not to but um in most circumstances but you know like aria is hemming her clothes
fixing her clothes that got ripped up during all of this. And she's doing needlework while the Northmen all arrive.
Oh, that's true.
I had it as, like, you know, she's doing needlework.
And as she's doing it, she's murmuring her prayer of all the people she wants to kill, you know?
And, like, it's the needle, right?
Sticking with the pointy end or the desire to do so with all these people.
Well, and that's the thing, right?
Like, I want her to
like learn the understand the the importance of it of which she can sew her prayer still yeah of
sewing yeah no you're right like it's important to i think that's part of it too that she's like
sewing her shit together i think she understands it's important or she will at least later on it's
more like there are a lot of things in life that are important that i'm just not good at yeah yeah oh that's for sure sleeping me or you me yeah you're good at a lot of things
i don't know but sleeping it depends on the time but yeah but yeah like i mean there's a lot of
things i'm the ghost in heron hall so it's it's a great, it's a fun chapter.
Really sets the stage for, I mean, what's coming up.
Yeah, next week we're going to have some chaos to get through B-Word.
I'm hyped.
Yeah.
Okay, let's jump into our lightning round.
You know, what you missed between Arya 7 and Arya 8,
which Eliana already said, Arya ready, so here we go.
Catelyn 3.
Catelyn's told she must stay to watch
a Baratheon brother overcome one another.
Poor woman.
Sansa 3. Sansa pays for
Robb's victories.
Catelyn 4.
Catelyn and Brienne escape
Renly's camp after he's murdered.
Jon 4. At the fist of the
first men, Ghost and John find
Dragon glass
I don't want it
Dragon ass, dragon ass
It's all the time for dragon ass
Oh, we're grabbing
It's dragon ass
Bran 5
The sea flowed over the walls
Winterfell, Jojen dreams
Reek steals Bran's face
Tyrion
VIII. A match is made between
Joffrey and Margaery, and Littlefinger
is sent to secure it.
Theon III.
Theon plans, like most other chapters,
to prove himself in the
eyes of his daddy.
Rip.
And that brings us to
Arya VIII in A Clash of Kings.
Tywin leaves camp.
Arya seeks Shokken, finding Whis instead.
Dun dun dun!
Yeah, here we are.
Arya 8, and Tywin marches at last.
Adam Marbrand leaves first, riding a spirited red courser,
and trappings dyed to match his cloak with a burning tree on it.
Some of the castle
women are sobbing, watching him leave because he's so sexy he's a daddy to them. Whis is like
he's a great horseman and a daring commander. Arya, however, my girl, hopes he dies. She hopes
all of them die. Adam does not, unfortunately, die yet. They're all going to fight Rob, who recently won a great victory out west.
Some say he burnt Lannisport.
Or meant to burn it.
Some say he captured Casterly Rock and besieged the Golden Tooth.
No one knows for sure, but definitely something big has happened.
Yeah, I like the, you know, we got a little reminder there in the lightning round that
this chapter ties in a little with Sansa's right like paying for rob's victory so you get a
that little through line between the sisters he the warg you know that ruined everything and her
the little girl that gets to accept the beating yeah we had aria running messages all over from
dawn to dusk in and outside of the camp she thinks are
running and maybe would have except for you know Whis and his threats of like what happens if
she runs and he catches her he's like he'd save her for the crippler for Vargo Hoth the Khorik
who would cut off her feet I was rereading a couple Harrenhal chapters later in the book
you know just for some world building purposes. And I stumbled,
I stumbled across Jamie five, where we get a little more insight to everything going on that
Jamie Yeah, I think this is Jamie five, we get a little more insight to everything going on with
Vargo and the political things that are switching. And I love that the Aria chapter does not go into
it. Right? Because she doesn't realize what's happening
it doesn't all move
over next chapter because she whispered
a word to Jaqen that's not like
how things work
takes more than a handful of men
to do it it takes a whole castle I mean
we learn in this castle there's no one left
there's a hundred people everything's slow moving
how can you have a castle like
Harren hall and keep
hold of it without bigger machinations at work so we hear that vargo likes cutting off limbs
whether or not there's a reason but also roost tells jamie of course there was a reason
hote is more cunning than he appears right he has to have wits about him commanding the brave
companions and Vargo abandoned
the Lannisters because Roose said he
could have Harrenhal when Roose leaves.
A reward bigger than anything
Tywin would give him. And because
he was a stranger to Westeros,
Roose leveraged
that xenophobia and said,
I'm gonna win this one. You don't know
shit about Westeros, you can have the Cursed
Castle, bitch.
Yep.
And so, of course, Bolton says that the curse of Tywin Lannister is really the bigger poison, not just the curse of Harrenhal, because Vargo should have consulted the Rains or the Tarbecks,
who are now long gone, Roose says, right?
To know that dealing and
then betraying the Lannisters
is not a great way to go.
Will not do great for you, and
Roose goes on to say that he had hoped
maybe if he went in for Stannis
and betrayed the castle for Stannis, that Vargo
would then get a real lordship,
etc. So Vargo's playing the Game of Thrones
heavily. He's got stocks everywhere.
He's like, little bit in you, little bit in you, little bit in you little bit and you little bit and you betray you betray you betray you who cares
and i think that's some great context and background here for everything happening in
this chapter and next i i like that also because like what you've called out is you know vargo
came here he's like hoping to get a lordship hoping to get heron hall and he's done absolutely no research
whatsoever on the place he is going and you compare that to like for example melisandre
and varies right like there's a lot of things melisandre does not understand about westeros
but that woman likes to do research you know she is she is out here being like, Fires, I'm gonna Google search in my Fires everything about Westeros.
She's a spreadsheeter like me, isn't she?
Yeah, I think so.
And she, like, stores it all there.
And then Varys also did, like, a shit ton of research.
I mean, let's be real.
And Varys became a lord, kinda.
And Melisandre's very powerful, so.
Interesting.
There's a lot of that power play, right?
Like, even in the Mel chapters, the shadow on a wall and shadows are also what you make of them on a wall and out of a fire.
Right?
Everything she reads is, like, she has to interpret it.
There's a little bit of that happening at Harrenhal.
Like, Whis and Arya, right?
Because Whis sees Arya and he sees that yellow cat. He doesn't see shit. That's true. interpret it there's a little bit of that happening at harrenhal like weiss and aria right because we
sees aria and he sees that yellow cat he doesn't see he's like yeah it's just a cat
he doesn't know aria can read and yeah he starts sending her on journeys on little
side quests npc side quests that you gotta finish because he thinks she's stupid as fuck. He's like
she won't ruin my plans. Arya go do this
Arya go do that. So he sends her around
one time he sends her to a knight
and he's like he owes me a gambling debt
but the knight can't read either
so finally she has to like read him the
message and of course she's opening and reading
these messages as she runs around. That's my
girl. He tries to hit her
she ducks and then she steals a drinking horn,
a nice silver one, and brings it back to Whis.
And when she gets back to Whis, he's like,
ah, so you're a smart little weasel,
which this is the first time he's ever been nice to her
about her intelligence.
Up until now, she's defied him,
and so he's just called her stupid.
He says, well, I'll share a plump capon with you tonight.
We're going to have a burp together.
We're going to eat some food.
Yeah, absolutely.
And it is like the first time he's nice to her.
Unfortunately, it is very short lived.
And yeah, he promises as what did Warren call this?
The bargain bucket.
The KFC bargain bucket with her.
And not a very famous bull rereading this chapter i don't
think i really appreciated wheeze's job before like it is actually kind of impressive and
difficult i mean in some ways he's the mailroom guy but he's keeping a lot of the the whole
household going it requires so much coordination like you know not just ensuring that people get
their messages and he's also thinking about each worker's roots and like timing it and weasel is like actually a
very i think impressive administrator yeah he has great stewardship skills and just not great time
management and like not good leadership he's an asshole but i mean you can only imagine he's an
asshole because he's been doing it for so long i I mean, I feel like you could do it for a long time and not be an asshole.
But it's like a great reminder that, you know, just because someone's like lowered down the chain on the, you know, Lannister, whatever.
They're not just a stupid grunt, right?
He's smart and he's mean.
I want to share a personal anecdote.
Okay.
You know, this is what I love to do.
I want to share a personal anecdote this is what I love to do
and I will say
so I used to manage
an office max
they're dead now, they're defunct
they got bought by office depot
I was a sales manager
I wasn't like a manager manager
I wasn't the manager, I wasn't the GM
but I was like
I was a underpaid
sales manager.
And long story short, it's a great job when you have the right support.
Like, I didn't mind getting paid like fuck when I had like a good, strong team at the
same time.
And I could like I could radio over and be like, hey, can you get all this while I do
this?
Or, hey, let's get this
set like you know each Saturday you would have to set an ad so you'd have to like take all these
sticky notes basically and put them everywhere and be like this is this much off and buy two get this
and da da da all over the store and make sure that you had enough stock out in front you know
it's just like it's a job like what weese is doing it's a fucking job you have to like put bodies places
you have to do shit you got to get it done you have this much time and you all want to go the
fuck home because it's saturday at 10 11 p.m you know like you don't want to be at a fucking office
max at 11 p.m so when you don't have the bodies and you only have a couple of people and one or
two of the people might be fucking off on top of it and you have to like manage all that it is actually really stressful it is a lot and it's like
when they make you run a skeleton crew and you have nothing like it makes it hard it makes you
a mean person and when you see people that have done it for 10 20 30 years working at a retail
store where they're getting no recognition they're getting their crew pulled from them
they get no support like they don't turn into nice people yeah they turn into people with
problems like that's just real that's life i've worked with many of them i see the the shit they
go through and the unhappiness just to have a stable job and like that's weas dude he turns
awful he turns mean because he's being treated like dog shit yeah i can't i can't tell like if
he turns mean or if he's like because you know some people are intrinsically like that like ramsey
right yeah probably had it in him all the time but i mean probably exacerbated it yeah i mean
what you're saying it's like it's his version of maybe a broken man story you know and he's just
trying to be that person who breaks all these other fucking people. It is.
I mean, he could be the steward, but he's not getting that title. Right.
And they just took away 90% of the staff of Harrenhal by sending them out.
Yeah.
There's no help anymore.
There never was.
Like they increased his load, you know, or there's like, we brought in all these people
and all these prisoners, more people are here now.
Figure it out.
Yeah.
I just think that it's interesting.
Like it is another form of the
broken man being represented as that leverage of like you know injustice and that variable of just
i don't know jobs i don't know it's just not worth making ten dollars an hour to do that
you know these days and that's what we was doing we wasn't breaking more than that come on now no but i digress i digress chloe's digressing he still
sucks but yeah i'm not excusing the behavior i'm just understanding i didn't think you were
but in case i don't know i'm just understanding it i get it aria looks for jackan to whisper her
next name to him everywhere she goes but he's nowhere to be found in the chaos of the camp. He still owes her two deaths, by the by.
She works up the courage to ask if anyone's seen that guy at the gate.
You know, the one with the red hair and the white hair.
One of the guards is like, he won't be going anywhere if he's one of Amory's men.
Amory's been made castling of Harrenhal.
He's gonna hold the castle with the mummers.
Oh, that's fun.
Huh. Huh. Oh, that's fun. Ha.
Ha.
Oh, that's funny.
Mummers come back in her story.
Anyways, in a way, you know, her trying to find Jaqen, it's kind of funny.
Because, like, she doesn't know where he is. And interestingly, I would say it's, like, almost kind of a training her as well.
It's not part of, like, her training curriculum.
But it kind of is, like, a training of, like, how do you find a specific person how do you find a target and honestly it takes her a lot to to get there
throughout this chapter but eventually she does it yeah this chapter does have a little training
especially because the next chapter jack in caves kind of right he's like yes i'll go to your north
men quest and i'll show you the whole time though what i'm doing because you need to be able to do
that for yourself is really what comes up because he's grooming her to join the cult the death cult i'm
so into that now i just needed you to contextualize it that way for me to be like i got it i'm in
i'm part of the death i'm in i'm in the death cult too the mountain leaves with Tywin, taking her chances at killing Dunstan,
Poliver, and Wrath,
unless she's able to find Jaqen
and get one of them off the list.
That afternoon,
we send her up to the armory for a new sword
and hands her paper with his mark on it.
Arya takes the paper and runs,
and she sees Gendry at the forges
and thinks she may not want to speak to him.
She's like,
it's his fault we were caught
that we're here oh she asks him who lucan is though and hands over the paper saying i need
a sword for sir lionel gendry snags her by the arm and says never you mind sir lionel and then
he says hot pie remembers you yelling winterfell during battle. And then he's like, I told him you said
go to hell. Good one, Gendry. Good cover up.
Good job. But that's, you know,
this could be a problem. And Arya's like,
in her head, she's like, shit, maybe
I need to kill Hot Pie. I'm like, Arya,
bruh,
chill out. Hot Pie
is our friend.
It's
hard, though. She doesn't know who to trust right like that trauma doesn't
make it easy that she's considering him as one of her wishes for just a moment to cut ties and cut
you know anyone knowing her it's kind of a little bit of foreshadowing in the name of
self-preservation compared to what we get in the next chapter when she doesn't tell who she is in front of Rorge,
in front of Biter.
She doesn't want to be found or be able to be given up.
Like Sansa, right, who has the ultimate claim right now.
She's like in the Vale.
She could rouse all these people that knew her dad
and respected him, but she's holding back
because she doesn't feel safe right now yet.
Yeah, that's true.
I mean, and it makes perfect sense for her to be afraid.
I mean, all she's been told by all these people,
and a lot of things have kind of borne that out, right?
On the road of like, dang, if they know who I am,
something bad is going to happen to me.
Yeah, which mirrors so well with what's happening to jane
yeah true behind the scenes there's a lot of etymology happening here at harrenhal right now
that's fun that i want to point out first of all she looks for lucan who's supposed to be able to
provide the sword lucan now that's pretty Riverlands-y of a name.
You know what it reminds me of?
Lucamore the Lusty.
Oh, interesting.
Lucan.
Lucamore.
Luke.
I thought you were going to tell me Lucerus.
Yeah, I thought you were going to say Lucerus.
I mean, Lucamore is a straw.
Yeah.
And Lucerus has that Luke lichen.
Yeah, interesting.
The wolf stuff going on.
Yeah, that was from the Jaehaerys tour.
Era's tour.
Era's tour.
Got you.
And the other name here is Lionel.
That's a very Riverlands name.
Look at Lionel Strong, right?
Yeah, yeah.
And not just that, but it does make you wonder.
I don't know that we get total clarity yet but
is this lionel frey i don't know you know the the married to a craig hall son of a lannister
more betrayal foreshadowing because there's betrayal foreshadowing all over this it's
everywhere very much so yeah it is also kind of funny i don't think i don't think it exists i don't think
this character like was maybe existed yet in george's mind i don't know but it's also funny
she's looking for a lionel to to gendry because there's a lionel baratheon right that's very
true i don't think george thought of him yet but by clash but yeah lucan lucan brings her a long sword yeah it's heavier than needle and
aria likes the feel of it because she she feels less small as she holds it she feels less like a
mouse especially because mice she thinks can't hold can't hold swords but what about rats what
about rats aria um she goes on to find sir lionel not really knowing what the fuck he
looks like and wanting to avoid being beat by weas or shortened by the goat goddamn a group of archers
passes her talking about the starks calling rob more wolf than man and that he has 20 foot tall
giants in his army and another man says i don't know maybe he knows something we don't
maybe we should run
real
yes
Arya thought yes
it's you who ought to run
you and Lord Tywin
and the mountain and Sir Adam and Sir
Amory and stupid Sir Lionel
whoever he is that's so real
all of you better run or my brother will
kill you he's a start he's more wolf than man and so am i oh big sansa vibes right like yes
yes like rob will give me your head exactly i mean like i think it's it's there's this beautiful
parallel like between how they think about rob as this hero and like beating their think it's it's there's this beautiful parallel like between how they think about rob as
this hero and like beating their enemies it's also kind of funny because what she's a sansa's been
put in aria's old chambers old rooms you know by this chapter two torture it's also kind of funny
here right where she thinks like he's more wolf than man and so am i and then you get the quick
reminder of we's going weasel it's like are you a wolf or are you a weasel right now just funny just funny with those animals
because yeah she is interrupted by weas who tells her took her long enough and then slaps her when
she doesn't hand over the knife telling her to be quick about it and then threatens to hit her again
he sends her to the brew house to tell tuffleberry which is apparently
a real name uh in this book series according to chloe is it a real name overall is there a real
tuffleberries it's kind of an interesting name and i don't want to spoil we'll come back to
tuffleberry but he is new yeah he has two dozen barrels and he better come get them quick he tells
aria to run if she wants to eat tonight and don't get lost or he'll beat her bloody.
God damn it.
And then Arya thinks, you won't.
You won't ever again.
But she ran.
I love that.
It reminds me of when Ned says about Lady that the Lannister woman would never have that skin.
Ooh.
You won't ever again.
Yeah.
Oof.
I love that.
Ooh, those are some comfort lines.
Do you ever just read that, you know, just to, like, feel comfort inside?
Oof.
Like, eating, like, gravy, it's so good.
Ooh, I love gravy.
There's also this line.
This is...
My Nana makes good-ass gravy. I miss This is my Nana makes good ass gravy.
I miss that woman.
Yeah, Nana.
So there's this great line that she thinks for a moment she had been a wolf again, but
we see slap took it all away and left her with nothing but the taste of her own blood
in her mouth.
Oh, girl, you working right now.
She's working instead of working. Hashtag like, are you oh girl you working right now she's working instead of working hashtag like
aria are you working she is like the line there it's so subtle but she absolutely was and it
reminds me of like what ara was saying when she came on of like more magic you know like aria
just kind of does it effortlessly maybe because there's more magic here in the riverlands
yeah and the fact that george glosses over it is so crazy to me,
because, like, Bran, he gets blood in his mouth,
dreams of being a wolf, and you're like,
oh my god, woof woof, Bran.
But Arya does it, and you're like, anyways, back to Harrenhal,
and you don't linger on it usually,
but this is standing out to me.
She is definitely warging all the time.
Yeah, it's interesting when you think about it also as, like, those,
I don't know, a metaphor for escapism,capism right like obviously it would be great for aria she would like to remove herself from her current situation she wants to escape she thinks about it
a lot this chapter but she doesn't doesn't space off in that same way right she for survival feels
the need to be very present here do you you know that song by Coldplay, Paradise?
I don't know that song. Wow.
Okay, well, I'm gonna send it to you
later, but it's important.
It feels necessary here.
But there's a music video
someone made on YouTube to Arya and
Sansa to it. Interesting.
And the lyrics are like, you know,
when they were girls, they dreamed of the world
and now real life, you know, sucks.
So they dream of paradise, basically, is the theme of it.
It's very Clash coded.
It's very Arya Sansa coded.
And if it's in here, that's really the analysis.
Like, I don't have much more than that to add, but I just.
Valid.
We'll talk about it.
I'll leave it.
You know what?
I'm going to find that music video just for everyone listening.
We'll put it in the
show notes.
Not comment. In the show notes.
I don't know. There's a lot of Game of Thrones
YouTube videos that I feel like are really necessary
to be a fan of the books and the show.
AMVs. I mean it.
AMVs. Yeah.
We did a lot of AMVing in our day.
Us old folk.
Well, no. Okay. People still do them.
They just call them fan cams now
hey you know yeah that's true people were making them about like luffy from the one piece oh they
were making them of the other like the one of the villain like this clown pirate too
from the one piece live action that's so vine of you fine
as aria passes below the stone bridge she hears harsh growling laughter and sees Rorge and Amri Lorge's men.
Rorge stops and grins and taunts her, and he's like, ah, it's Yoren's little cunt.
Saying, I see why Yoren wanted to take you to the wall.
Implying, you know, sexual assault.
Arya, of course, is kind of weary during all this and he's like where's your stick now
i was gonna rape you with it and she's like i saved you why are you acting like a rapist asshole
why is he acting like that i mean it's because he's a rapist asshole yeah it's because it's who
he is yeah he he really sucks because i mean she's nine years old. Leave her the fuck alone.
She did, in fact, save him.
I don't know if it's like, is it like, it's always like a weird power play thing, first of all.
An establishment of dominance, I guess, because he was a prisoner and maybe felt, I don't know, it's a franchise.
So he's like, I'm going to pick on the fucking little girl who saved me.
He's posturing for the men who, like, I don't know.
I, for one, would not be impressed by a
man if i were another man but maybe i just don't understand it but yeah i would not be impressed
by someone bullying a nine-year-old but you know you're saying like it makes sense why she was like
she doesn't know who to trust because roger's exactly proving the point that joran told her
these people find out not only that you're like a girl but also that you're the stark girl they're gonna
rape you before they turn you in so it's pride it's like you're a stark yeah you're big enough
to keep us down i mean yeah anyway yeah i'm like leave her alone and i don't know but also sad to
say it's kind of fucked up but like it is kind of accurate there are people who are
like this nowadays and you know experienced experienced that but also i don't know after
the way he treats aria here it kind of gives you some you were talking about like gravy feelings
like some some nice closure that the one who kills him is brienne you know it is beautiful
it's only about brienne saving a Jane, right?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that little girl.
Jane Heddle.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Arya brushes past all of these threats of sexual violence,
and she's like, where's Jaqen?
And she notices Rorj almost seems afraid of the mention of Jaqen.
Jaqen freaks people out, it sounds like.
And he's found later soaking in a tub.
And he hears her mouse steps approaching.
And she's like, I have a message.
And she whispers, Weiss, to him.
Jaqen H'ghar closed his eyes again.
Floating languid, half asleep.
his eyes again.
Floating languid, half asleep,
tell his lordship a man
shall attend him at his
leisure. His
hand moved suddenly, splashing hot
water at her, and Arya had
to leap back to keep from getting
drenched.
Silly.
Silly, playing with the kids.
She finally makes it to Tuffleberry.
Which, according to Chloe's
notes, it's still a real name.
Who is less helpful? Telling Arya
that his lads
have duties to tend to.
To tell Whis that he's a
pox-ridden bastard and the Seven Hells
will freeze over before he gets another horn
of Tuffleberry's Ale.
We should start a brewery and call it
Tuffleberry.
I love it.
It's very Shakespeare.
It reminds me of something
Shakespeare would put in like Midsommar, but
yeah, I wanna
say his fate is unknown
as of A Feast for
Crows when Jaime lifts the
siege at Harrenhal. So
save Tuffleberry. Yeah, wait.
Save him. Save Tuffleberry.
Yeah. I want
I would patron
Tuffleberry. Maybe he makes it to the
to the Quill and Tangered.
That'd be sick.
Wouldn't love that for
Tuffleberry. There's nothing to prove that.
I just like made that headcanon up.
Whis curses when Arya brings back the message
and he ends up sending six men to go get the barrels down to the brew house.
It's dinner time.
Yeah, it is.
She only gets a thin stew of barley, onion, and carrots
with a wedge of stale brown bread.
A woman who sleeps in Whis' bed also got a ripe blue cheese as well and gets a wing of stale brown bread a woman who sleeps in weasel's bed also got a ripe
blue cheese as well and gets a wing of the capon but what about aria's pieces none weasel eats the
rest of it himself but but there's hope the bird is almost gone when he sees aria staring calls her
over she's like oh oh she starts to feel sorry for telling jack and to kill him because she's like oh my god he did remember promising me some cupon earlier but instead he has not remembered he
chastises her for staring at him and then slaps her and grabs her by the throat like what the
fuck telling her that he's gonna scoop her eyes out next time and feed it to his dog? Yeah. It's pretty gross and
it's pretty gross and a little
traumatizing to read.
Especially though
there's something going on here that I
like and not in like the
I like that he's threatening this young girl
way. I don't like that. Okay.
Let's be fucking clear here.
Just want my little asterisk.
There's something poetic, though, in that
Whis is killed by his dogs.
He's mauled by his dogs.
The very dogs that he's threatening Arya with right now, right?
That he's gonna feed her eyeballs to his dogs.
Who, like all women, Whis treats, like, in that weird interim area
where he doesn't respect them, but does respect them.
You know what I'm saying?
Where he's like, oh, my dogs are everything, but also fuck those bitches.
They don't deserve shit.
Not even this little bitch's eyeballs.
Like, what's the truth?
Anyway.
Yeah, let them eat the eyeballs, right?
Yeah.
Like, oh, are the eyeballs good or bad?
Like, what's the truth?
But you know who else cares
about his bitches aka his dogs his female mother dogs this much ramsay yes with another aria
with jane it's kind of poetry is this reminiscent of ramsay's fate that he's going to fall at aria's hands weas is ramsey for aria ramsey is weas for jane
that's what aria is experiencing here honestly it would be really interesting though if like
it were aria i don't know i feel it might end up being something someone different like
honestly who knows battle winterfell stuff, right?
Battle.
Yeah.
That will be in the books that it was not in the show.
I guess they had it as Battle of the Bastards.
But like, no, I mean, it's going to be.
It's going to be Stannis and who knows how it's going to go.
I truly do not know how that's going to go.
And yeah, mauled by his own dogs and like the dogs also, like you said, like it represents also how he treats all these people who work for him you know and in a way aria is that dog who comes for him
or wolf or weasel well she's not gonna be that dog no that's for sure he shoves aria tumbling
to the ground and then it rips her hem which is super shitty and he's like oh you should fix that before you
go to bed and then he goes back to his meat and so in her room as we called out earlier right
aria is saying her prayers while fixing her hem with a needle hoping that weas is dead by the
morning and and it's that prayer as you all know of the people she wants to kill with the needle
but weas wakes her up with a hard-booted toe telling her
that tywin's host leaves today and the castle is going to be harder to keep with fewer hands now
so he's going to get even meaner probably because as you're talking about right the work gets even
harder he says they're going to learn what work is and aria picks up her oat cake and we frowns at her. Arya watches Tywin and his company leave.
Tywin wears an airmind cloak.
His brother Kevin is dressed super well, too.
And behind them are their captains and lords.
See if you can spot them.
Red Ox.
Golden Mountain.
Purple Unicorn.
Phantom Rooster.
Brindled Boar and Badger.
Silver Ferret. Juggler and motley stars and sunbursts
peacock and panther chevron and dagger black hood and blue beetle and green arrow wait a second
those are all comics right there i see you george i For real, though, I had to point that out. I'm like, oh, you little nerd.
You nerd.
But last comes Gregor.
In gray plate, steal on a bad-tempered stallion with Poliver,
who's sporting Gendry's helm.
Ew, take it off.
Yeah, it's rude.
And suddenly, it's rude.
It's cruel.
Arya thinks she made a mistake.
I've made a huge mistake as we talked a little about
a huge oh my god arrested development
as we talked about last chapter
she should have killed these men
why didn't she say Lord
Tywin she thinks
she decides it's not
too late to change my mind
and she runs out to find Jaqen to tell him
but there's a commotion a dozen
people pass by the gates
and shrieks of pain and fear
are going on
yeah as you said we already talked about like the decision
of who to kill last episode
I won't go into it so I just want to say
you know Jaqen is very
efficient in these chapters
almost like too efficient
imagine if Doran Martell's plots
for getting revenge on those people were as efficient as Jaqen chapters like almost like too efficient like imagine if doran martel's like plots for
getting revenge all those people were as efficient as jock and hagar in these chapters
he knew what he was doing yeah he's like i'm trying very much trying to get my work done
and then leave yeah but then he goes above and beyond though truly employee of the month yeah
it's interesting because you see that beginning of how he acts next chapter that will He goes above and beyond, though. Truly. Employee of the month. Yeah.
It's interesting because you see that beginning of how he acts next chapter that will...
How he acts next chapter that we're gonna
kind of go through B-word.
He's playing the long game
and playing the fast game, for sure.
And we have this passage.
Weas was sprawled across the cobbles.
His throat a red ruin,
eyes gaping sightlessly up at a bank of grey cloud. His ugly spotted dog stood on his chest,
lapping at the blood pulsing from his neck, and every so often,
ripping a mouthful of flesh out of the dead man's face,
finally someone brought a crossbow and shot the spotted dog dead while she was worrying at one of Weas' ears.
Damnedest thing, she heard a man say.
He had that bitch dog since she was a pup.
This place is cursed, the man with the crossbow said.
It's Harren's ghost.
That's what it is,
said good wife Amabel.
I'll not sleep here another night.
I swear it.
Arya lifted her gaze
from the dead man and his dead dog.
Shaq and Hagar was leaning up
against the side of the Wailing Tower.
When he saw her looking, he lifted a hand
to his face and laid two fingers
casually against his cheeks.
I'm just like imagining
it would be so funny if they had like
peace signs and Westeros
like imagine instead a scene where
Jaqen just looks across and goes
peace.
Or peace. And pretends this is a very normal thing for him to do or like, I don't know. Jaqen just looks across and goes, Peace. Peace.
And pretends this is a very normal thing for him to do,
or like, I don't know,
if he put it over his eyes, like Sailor Moon style,
instead of, like, subtly against his cheek.
But he goes, And that's what he did instead. Never running from a real fight.
I'm the Lorathi, Jaqen H'ghar.
Wee, wee, wee, wee, wee, wee, wee.
Yeah, exactly like that.
Hey, we're coming back with that in November.
Yeah.
Maybe.
Probably.
It's also, you know, when does Sailor Moon Cosmos?
I think it's coming around any time.
Any day now.
Any day now.
Look under your chair.
Any moment now.
I really thought it would be internationally released already, but it is not.
But I think it's close because ColourPop put out a new Sailor Moon collection.
And I own it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Any moment.
You know, it's a little line there, right, of the madness that came over reese's dogs who are
described very cutely uh it's basilisk blood right because later we get a line about this
with aria in a feast for crows with the waif this paste is spiced with basilisk blood
it will give cooked flesh a savory smell, but if eaten, it produces violent madness in beasts as well as men.
A mouse will attack a lion after a taste of basilisk blood.
I think Gregor's maybe mainlining this, but maybe that's Gregor's whole thing.
But this sounds like basilisk blood, which comes up again in storm during the trial for tyrian and pie cells lick i had basilisk blood and da da da da yeah i think
it i think it's best basilisk blood i think that's kind of you know it's a little canon and i also i
didn't notice this till you read it aloud that a mouse will attack a lion after a taste of basilisk
blood that is you know you've got weas, who's serving the Lannisters right now,
therefore a lion, and a mouse, who's Arya.
She thinks of herself as a mouse this chapter.
Attackin'.
Though I didn't know this until just now when I was looking at the origin of basilisks,
which are, you know, legendary reptiles in legends.
That is where they are mythology things like that it goes
but they go back to like you know ancient greece mentioned even by like pliny the elder which
because this is also not only a food podcast but you know a subsection of that a beer podcast as
well booze podcast booze podcast yes yes tuflberry the brewer um pliny the elder great beer
anyways plenty of the elder said that a basilisk's weakness is an odor of the weasel
oh very interesting i know her very random the weasel very random that of all the things the
basilisk would be weak to weasels i mean of all people george would
absolutely reference pliny the elder true true i'm serious it's like let's be real he's a nerd
like us yeah that's why he's got his like little comics like squished in there they they elaborated
on it more but it was something maybe like monkeys mongoose but you know plural monkeys monkeys um just like meese meese and moose yeah meese the
plural of moose yes agree no that's actually something i very strongly believe me too
geese meese yes these are the lessons you get on girls gone canon grammar bitch real grammar
speaking of bitch said they killed a dog no that's not nice yeah though i don't know
if like this is why they did it but apparently you know first of all that dog is wilding out
maybe they thought it was like sick but i think you do you are supposed to kill animals once they
develop a taste for human flesh or if they've tasted it because then they've developed a taste
for it i was like oh very interesting but. But the dogs turning on their masters, big hound
energy, especially at the end of this book.
I love that. That comes
together so nicely.
Oh, you just did that.
Aliana. It was for you. Wow.
That's great. Dogs turning on their
masters and it ties in for Ramsey
eventually with the hound
who dies and Sandra Clegane comes
back, which will happen
no I love that though
yeah the
dog focus in Whis
the fact that like the first death was like
oops he's dead and the third
death is a little more complicated but the
second death is also more complicated
yeah that's true interesting to watch
Jack and Weald how he kills these people
and what he
decides is correct playing god yeah actually though and why didn't we deserve to just fall
from a pillar like yeah he sucks but he also had a bad job with no support from corporate as we just
talked about so like what made it so that we deserve to be killed by the dogs eating him
what was his last threat he made the dogs eating aria's eyes i wonder if he
thought like it had to be different right because if this person also fell the same way chiswick did
people are going to start getting suspicious like oh it's kind of weird that people keep falling
down right like what happens with theon that's true yeah in winterfell beyond dirt so it has to
be it has to be different it has to be different enough that people are like
oh very weird very interesting but there's a part of it where you you know maybe he just like
exercised some creative license he's like you don't really impress the kids the dogs eating
weas gross though it is my god gross well weas is dead chapter with B-Word is going to be a fucking literal killer chapter of many people.
Thanks to Weasel Soup.
Yeah.
I'm kind of excited to talk Weasel Soup next chapter.
It's a food podcast.
I might make some soup of my own.
Yeah, we're a food podcast.
Well, here we are.
The end of Aria 8.
We're getting to the end of a Clash of Kings.
Oh my shit.
Dude, we're like at the end of Clash.
We're at the end of Clash again.
How do we keep doing this?
They can't keep doing it.
Someone has to stop it.
We keep doing it.
They can't keep getting away with it.
Against all odds.
And we do.
And we do.
Hey, we're really happy that you all have come along this journey with us.
It's been, what, five fucking years?
More than.
Wow.
And we're not stopping.
Never stopping.
It's over for us.
This is it.
We're going to be reading Aeswaf till we die.
Happy to die with you.
Thanks for listening.
Interesting.
Interesting.
Thanks for listening.
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