God Awful Movies - 406: Evolution vs. God

Episode Date: May 30, 2023

This week, Marsh joins us for an atheist review of Ray Comfort's Evolution vs. God, the story of Ray Comfort trying to win arguments, failing, then trying to deceptively edit those arguments to make it look like he didn't lose them, then failing at that as well. --- Check out more from Marsh on Be Reasonable and Skeptics with a K --- If you’d like to make a per episode donation and get monthly bonus episodes, please check us out on Patreon: http://patreon.com/godawful Check out our other shows, The Scathing Atheist, The Skepticrat, Citation Needed, and D&D Minus. Our theme music is written and performed by Ryan Slotnick of Evil Giraffes on Mars. If you’d like to hear more, check out their Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/EvilGiraffesOnMars/?fref=ts All our other music was written and performed by Morgan Clarke. To hear more from him, check him out here: https://www.morganclarkemusic.com/

So stupid, so stupid. I want just one of these people to say yes I can make a rose from nothing. Ping, done, there's a rose made from nothing. Oh sorry, but it only exists in a higher dimension that you can only access after you die if you're really nice. Now tell me all the ways my rose differs from your god. Prove me wrong, right? Yeah, yeah, it's like a witch came first, the chicken of the egg egg trick question. It's Yahweh. That's what right That All four movie

Welcome back to the Gamcast for each week. We sample another selection from Christian cinema because of a weird dyslexic tea leaf reader situation. I don't really want to get into it, but I'm your host, Noah Luzon sitting 700 miles from my immediate left is my good friend, Heath and right. Heath, welcome back. Thanks, though. We could do a Kirsten cinema selection, I guess. I don't really want to do that either. Right. Yeah. No, honestly, I don't, fortunately, Eli's going to be unable to join us this week. But in his stead, we're excited to welcome back the host to be reasonable, the cohost of skeptics with the K, the project director for the Good Thinking Society and everybody's favorite guest, masochist, Michael Marshall Marsh. Welcome back. Hey, guys, lovely to be

here. I say, I say lovely to be here. It's always a pleasure to be on the show, always a pleasure to talk to you. But I've been involved in skepticism, skeptic activism, atheist activism since 2009. And you've maybe do something today that I've gone 14 years avoiding. You've broken my duck. So that's what this is going to be. 14 years. I've dodged this bullet and you've hit me square in the eye with this particular thing. Oh, awesome. I feel like we should like draw things out and let our listeners wonder what it is we made you do, but it could be anything cold comfort that you had in the help of this guy before.

Well done. Well done. So tell us, Heath, what will we be breaking down today? We watched Evolution versus God. It's the story of Ray Comfort standing outside a drug dealers house on a college campus and ruining everyone's high with end machine reviews the whole time. Again. And Marsh, how bad was this movie? Well, if you like lukewarm creationist apologetics from over a decade ago, but you want

them delivered by your uncle whose Maddie got kicked out of the family group chat. You will love this movie. Yes. So this is the first time you've watched a Ray Comfort video. Yeah, it is. I've seen clips. I've seen bits of it. I got the gist that he's like, oh, you're going to ask people who, you know, aren't really going to tell you to fuck off questions that would normally make people tell you to fuck off and then you're gonna edit out any time they still tell you to fuck off. Yeah, for a career, I get it. But I've never sat down and watched it entire 40 minutes of it

in one sitting. Oh, right, Todd, right? So I'm really happy we could pop you here. Yeah, right. As I was saying before, we got on the recording, like, Heath and I have done half a dozen of these or so, and they're all the same. So it's really nice to have a fresh perspective on this so that we don't have to just add again to all our jokes from last time. Yeah. And now to be clear to the audience, there are multiple versions of this on YouTube. We went with the longest one because fuck us. But it would be clear why when we get to the review. Before we do that, though, is there anything you guys want to nominate this one for being the best of being the worst at? Yeah, I'm going to go with best worst argument formula. And there's a lot of competitions when it's a very comfort thing.

My favorite one from this video goes like this, name a famous dentist, two slow dentistry is fake. That is a serious argument he will make throughout. Yeah, that's one of those ones where you're like, yeah, I actually, I can see why this one didn't echo forward into his other videos. So now this one's all about evolution or well, for the first half of it, while he can remember that it's all about evolution. So I'm going with best worst temporal challenge over and over again, he basically asks a

biologist to show him millions of years right now. He does. He does absolutely. Yes. So stupid. And so many of them are like, what? What do you want me to show?

We'll get to it. It's so stupid. Well, I can't see. Yeah. I want to go best worst response to criticism because as we'll get to in a moment, this is him responding with this video to an original cut to this video and all the criticism that it got. And some of the criticism that it got was, yeah, you talked to that guy, but like, you've massively edited what he said in order to make it look like he didn't prove you wrong. And raise response to that criticism

is essentially saying, okay, well, tell me the stuff that I cut out. Yes, because you cut it out. It's like, it's basically that memory game that you play with kids where you get a lot of items, their toys and put a blanket over the memory move one, and it's like tell me which one we're missing, except you don't get to see it before the blanket goes over. Right, exactly. And it's not your choice. Exactly. Name a dentist too slow. I didn't cut anything. All right. Well, I don't want those poor college kids that ray ambushed to be the highest people in the episode. So I need a quick break. But we'll back in a minute with all the arguments against debating creationists that are evolution versus God.

Hello, everyone. And welcome to the the first writers room meeting for evolution versus God Okay, first of all, I don't think there are writers and meetings when it comes to rate comforts videos Yeah, I mean the main will even be rooms to be honest rooms. Yeah, but second of all Who said you get to be rate comfort while you lies away? But second of all, who said you get to be Ray Comfort while you lies away? Hey, I've caught the best Kiwi accent. So obviously it'd be me. You don't sound at anything right, Ray Comfort though.

Well, no, there's E-Loy. Yeah, right, right. But I think I could not sound like Ray Comfort too. Why not? All right, all right. Let's hear it. Okay, okay. Give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a, give it a a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give it a give episode. Fine, fine. We'll just go with the half ass give it is this week. I thought, you know, thank you. Great ones, but thank you.

Now as I was saying, welcome to the first writers room meeting for evolution versus God. So I was thinking for this one, I debate some biology professors and experts and challenge them to prove evolution on camera. Okay, but what if they, you know they do, what if they do do that? Oh yeah, no, I'll edit that part out. Right. Okay, but then your questions just won't have answers. Right, right, right, right.

Oh, what if you also interviewed a bunch of students who are just too polite to take a fuck off? Because they're probably not going to dunk on you until actually are they? Well, not as often, anyway. Right, yeah, not as often, yeah. Well, by give it to that sounds like a great idea. Okay, but hold on. What if your brazen and unapologetic threats of hell make one of them very obviously weep

behind her sunglasses? Oh, well in that case, we'll linger. We're gonna linger on that? Yeah, linger, really soak it in. You're a bad person, give it a, and we're back for the breakdown. And before we can get to the video proper, we're gonna take a minute for a sort of preface

to the second proper. We're going to take a minute for a sort of preface to the second edition explanation. There's actually the preface to the preface before the thing. Yeah, right. So good. Yeah. So it starts up. It comes up and it's like evolution versus God had over four million views on YouTube. You looked out of the view counter and says 83,000 and you're like, I don't know that I believe you.

Okay. He starts literally by saying this is one of the most hated videos on the internet. Everybody hates my movie. Yep. And I wrote down at that moment, and that's going to be the end of the honesty for the whole video. And then, yeah. And then I write that down and I look up at the screen and it says over four million views on the bottom of the frame and then into opening gambit here. He brags about the numbers. He's like, you know, this video had 90,000

thumbs downs on it. I'm just like, well, that's, that's, um, that's bad, man. Yes, it's 90,000 and three now, just to be absolutely clear, it's pointless, but it's 90,000. Also, in fairness to him, though, we're watching the uncensored version. And we are. The claim is, I guess're watching the uncensored version and we are. The claim is, I guess, that the censored version has 4.2 million views. Yes, according to what that's clearly a lie, too. He has, like, his channel has like 1.2 million subscribers, which is already a lie.

And there's no way they have 4.2 million real views on that other one. Absolutely not. I think he may, he may have four million views because this video was like, I think atheism, one of atheism's first introductions to him. This was one of the first ones that atheists picked up on 10, 11, 12 years ago, whenever the hell and originally came out.

So I don't doubt that he had a lot of hate views on that. I'm actually surprised that out of four million views that he only got 90,000 thumbs downs. You should get a negative view. If there's to be a way to be like, who on what? Yes, ironically, this is the minus one. But you know what, that would have helped so much.

That would have stopped the flat earth movement from ever starting if I run a views counted negative. Right. You need to get on that. That is your policy. We need to start to produce. Hell yeah, man. But yeah, but so he talks about the atheist

dust up over his videos. Like the atheist got really mad, especially Jacqueline Glenn. Right, the high, he says this high profile atheist was really mad about it. And I don't know if it's just me, I have no clue who this was. But then I didn't even get her name.

I was like, I thought he said Jacqueline Glenn. And I googled and I could not find Jacqueline Klan. I was like, am I supposed to know who Jacqueline? You find something fun when you googled that, though? I didn't. But I was like, I must personally who Jacqueline Klan is. Wait, is that, is that no was real name? Is that one for the North? And I've got no way, wait, of the two of you, Heath is way more likely to be a clan. But it's just because I wasn't tuned into Ray Comfort's accent. So yeah, it was Jack Linclin. Jack Linclin, which was clean. I'm still never fucking heard about, but at least I've got her name now. So now is yeah, he's like, Jack Linclin,

glad, blew her top. And I'm like, well, based on all the plagiarism accusations I heard, I think maybe somebody else blew their top. And she repeated that I'm not so sure. But yeah, but he's like critics of my video. I'm sorry, critics of my video. There it is. Yeah, I got to be here for Eli. Pointing out, it was deceptively edited. And it wasn't. And I'm like, the fucking Jacqueline Glenn rant that you just played was deceptively edited

to your jacket. Yeah. It's the level of like meta-st's a ma- it's priceless. So Jacqueline, we see her for a second. She wants Raid to release unedited videos of his interactions with atheists like P.C. Myers, which is what we get for a bunch of this video. And that's happening during a video made of nothing but highly edited clips. Like, no, just said, like the one they just showed us of Jacqueline Glenn, the entire

genre of Ray Comfort's career is deceptive editing, except he's so horribly inept at it that it's not very deceptive. So it's a little bit less dangerous. Right. Yeah, absolutely. Ray Comfort's job is shallow fakes. That's it. He's like shallow fake professional. Idi it. He's a shallow. He's a professional idiot.

It's also worth pointing out. This is the one that we're watching, as we say, is the evolution versus God uncensored. Right. I've come to why it's uncensored, but it isn't uncensored because 40 seconds in, she swears at him and we immediately get a censored with a censored with a censored

40 seconds in and he's lied to us with the title. Yeah. The censored naughty word with exploding exploding glass like Michael Bay was censoring this one word. By the way, the, uh, the uncensored version is 13 seconds longer of, you know, oh, really? All right. It's a lottery that they, that they are. We should do a side by side to figure out what, yeah, all right. No, I know what the send will get to it. I know exactly what the censoring is. Oh, okay. It's a thing that he complains about that YouTube did to this where he blurred the faces. Oh, that's right. Yeah. That's what it means by censoring. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah.

Okay. So we just added 13 seconds of time somewhere too. A top of that. Okay. Excellent. Well, the explanation of it. But then he points out that years later, Jacqueline Glenn forgave him and they became friends. And so now he's friends with a pretty lady. So in case you were curious, you don't know where she's from, Canada. I did a video with a woman. I know how that works. Yes, I do.

Why did he, like, did he only bring this up? Like only involved her criticizing in the first place just so we can brag about the fact that he knew somebody that I've never heard of. That's the humble brag he's gone for here. That's really it. Yep, that's that's 100% of it. But yeah, but this is where he tells us that his super popular video was removed from YouTube and when they put it back up, they blurred out the faces of all the people who had contacted YouTube and asked not to be in this stupid fucking video. Yep. Yeah.

Yeah. So he put it back up with all their faces unblurred. Yes. This is exactly what's happened. And this whole intro is just to complain about YouTube modding. This is why did you kick me out of this Facebook group? I deserve to be in this Facebook group. You're infringing on my whichever amendment rights. That's what he's doing here. He's not, he's New Zealander. Yeah, exactly. But yeah,

but so that, but that's the introduction to the uncensored version and an advertisement for the video that he did with Jacqueline Glenn. And then we get the for realsies intro, I guess. Yes. Yeah. He's like his, his PZ Maya's. He's an atheist who apparently just wants to eat his sandwich on this punk bench in peace. He's such a nice guy. But yeah, it goes. And honestly, I love fucking PZ's answer. Like the very first thing we get is him going, so why are you an atheist? And PZ says, because there is no God. And I'm like, that's pretty fucking good. Yeah.

Because of what the word means that you just said, you're dumb. You're dumb. Please let me eat my sandwich. Go away. We also, we also meet Gail Kennedy PhD. Here she's an anthropology professor that he ambushed at some point.

And I love her so God damn much. I love her more and more as this video goes on. She's an anthropology professor that he ambushed at some point. And I love her so goddamn much. I love her more and more as this video goes on. She's fun. Yeah, she's great. She's great. She goes, well, you know, atheism assumes that you can disprove the existence of a God. And I'm like, I don't know if that's correct.

She's like, but I can. So I'm an atheist. Yeah. She's like, so he said, agnostic is a more correct term, but I'm an a. Yes. Fuck you. Amazing. It's a great fuck you.

And in addition to a couple of distinguished university professors, we also meet the group of stone to 19 year olds that he's going to browbeat for the next half hour for our entertainment. Yes. Yeah. He's like, so his PC so his, Peasy Mayas, his Gayle Kennedy, and now his, a list of people who don't get to have Kairon's announcing their professorships, and well, I'm not gonna tell you why they don't get

those Kairon's. Yes. So we meet all our talking heads very quickly, and then there's this quote that comes up, and I love the guy reading the quote, because this is just some dude who works in a fucking British shop right being repeatedly asked to do it more atten burrowie. Yes, right? He gives the live science quote of what Darwinian evolution means.

Yeah, and I love when they do these because they put it up in their like according to science daily, the scientific method is when you do knowing stuff correctly. back to you Ray Ray. What do you got going over there? Yeah, but but but then you just want to say to the movie like okay So are we accepting live science then as an authority? Yeah, absolutely It's literally just like every time we get one these we get other than a couple of times in this movie It's like live science and science daily and like I fucking love science and point number three on Google hits for what is science. It's like Google for two seconds.

There's other UCLA professor or two who cuts in here. I can't remember this guy's name. Oh, Craig Stanford. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. He's great. He goes, well, you know, evolution proves that like

if there is a god, he's superfluous, right? He didn't do any of the stuff. Yeah, yeah. I know this is Craig Stanton because he's got the bookshelves behind him. And I know, you know, in this age of zoom, the bookshelves behind you is a shortcut for like authority, but he's got the bookshelf directly behind him and one to his right sort of on at a right angle. And it just looks like Ray has literally cornered him into taking it out. There was no escape from this corner of them to answer Ray. He's growing fireballs doing drag. He's caught a trapped him. So and then he goes through all of the, the stone teenagers and asks them their major, several of them are biology majors. You know he had to go and like, ah, damn it.

I don't normally get this many. It's like, maybe some of you were liberal arts. Oh, and one of those stone teenagers as well, he's been asked, got your questions. And he's in front of a scene, like in the background, there's police tapes saying caution everywhere. Yes, man. Yes. and he's in front of a scene, like in the background, there's police tapes saying caution everywhere, so I may listen to the tape. Listen to the tape. I also have to point out this one kid because he goes like he's asking everybody their major. And one guy, we just get this very awkward, like I'm a physicist, which is delivered in a, in a way that screams, dude, I'm a professor and you just asked me my major and I already

told you I was a professor, right? So that's why he says it because I thought he said it in like a slightly weird, creepy way, but I thought that's only because he knows what conversation he's found himself in. And so he's picturing the various effects, the forces that operate in the edge of a black hole would have long way comfort to do it. He's kind of spiritual. Yeah. No, this is very clearly just a young looking physics professor who is like, I'm a

physics professor. And then he's like, which all of G, he's like, oh my God, I'm a physicistologist. Yeah. And then of course, he acts all the stone teenagers that they believe in evolution and they do. It's a fucking pandemic. One kid says that he did, that they even strongly believes in evolution. So it's like, oh, God, it's a fucking pandemic. One kid says that he did, they even strongly believes in evolution. So it's like, oh, God, it's worse than we fear.

Yeah. And they said, and do you think this is a belief? And the kid says no. And he says, so when did you start to believe? So we'll all so know. All so. David. Yeah, race is very confused by the word believe.

He's asking these people like, well, do you believe in evolution? And a bunch of them are like, yeah. Right. And he thinks that's like a gotcha. And he puts a whole montage of people being like, yes, I believe in evolution. It's just, it's just thinking something's true. What do you think that? Yeah. Right. Yeah, exactly. He thinks it's magic. No, yeah. He thinks of random words are magical and we're going to see that over and over again. He does even worse with the word kind. It's going to get insane.

Oh, God, kind kills me. Yes. Yeah. So, okay. So then we get whichever, Attenborough corresponds to Staten Island again, whenever he quotes a science daily definition of the scientific method. And then we get the first of Ray Comfort's questions. Can you give me some observable evidence that evolution is true? Yes, and I have an answer for this.

It's like, yeah, right. I absolutely can. The appendix, the stigil organ, no function of humans. And if you need observable proof, I will happily show you yours, Ray, with give me a night and a few moments and we can sort this right out. Yeah, but that doesn't count for Ray and he's like, show me a fossil of a T-Rex rat now from your pocket. And they're like, what are you talking about, man? That's right. Right. His argument very quickly devolves into, okay, all right.

Well, can you show it to me while I've got my eyes covered, you know, because, because immediately the biologists are like, yeah, man, I can show you a fossil record for millions of years. And it's like, but that's millions of years. I can't see millions of years. And I'm like, but you can see fossils. Yeah. No, but Ray doesn't trust things he wasn't around to see. So, you know, now let's do the biblical flood, right?

Right. And now let's do the creations, don't we, right? Right. He's skeptical of the time dimension, because he can can't see it like yeah, visually with his eyes. And this is also this is the this is the unedited film. Neal, he's he's saying he's not editing this stuff. He asked that question. How can you prove this? Someone says the fossil record. He says, can you be more specific and give me one? We cut away to stock footage while the answer that he gets back is between six and seven million years ago. At which point I'm doing the

Leonardo da Caprile pointing at the screen meme of like, you see, there's a sentence that didn't flow because he's cut, he's editing. That's why the stock footage is there. Right, because what Gail Kennedy almost certainly said to him is like, I'm sorry, did you just asked me to give you one fossil that demonstrates the theory of how things change over time? No, of course, I can't give you that you fucking idiot. Gail Kennedy is stoned out of her mind. Is she not? She's the anthropology professor. You see, I just took like her first 10 bong hits of her life at like a party with students and they like taught her how to dab and like gave her a fistful of gummy bears because they knew Ray comfort was out there and like, this is gonna be fun. She's gonna go ahead and deal with him.

And that's it. She's someone who's been who's avoided it her whole life, but literary soul Ray Comfort walking down the corridor towards her was I fuck it now. All right, yeah, now I would like to dab, yeah. Because at one point he's like, name one fossil and she's like, I have six million year. Yeah. I was like, I have the million years. Yeah, the fast. So what are you talking about? That's like, that's going to be your only win.

She's stoned out of her fucking mind. And you can totally find, you get one. Oh, fuck. So, and then he's like, I guess he emphasizes his point about how we can't see evolution by having a montage of people saying large numbers of years, you know, millions of years, hundreds of millions of years, tens of millions of years, you know, as though that disproves it, right? Yeah.

Because we can't see over millions of years. So okay. So then Shmaivich Schmettinburg gives us a Dawkins quote that amounts to basically him saying, like, you know, we only live for a few decades. Evolution plays out over, you know, more than that. Right. So we generally don't see it. And I thought, you're right, we do only live for a few short decades.

And you guys have had me spend cumulatively weeks watching shit like this, like I've been sent into eyes of my life is pretty high. Mark, don't think about things. No, this way please. Please don't. What do you say? It's right on the board. Also, I'm pretty sure we've seen bacteria

evolve in minutes in the lab now, right? Yes, the Lensky experiment is exactly that E. coli is the classic one. Yeah, yeah, we're gonna get to that experiment. All right. This is where as well, I realized that the voice of a guy, I didn't have him down as that in Bra. I had him as like a bad version of Christopher Hitchens.

And then I realized I was just describing Peter Hitchens. And it reminded me that as that old cruel joke about how the Beatles are dying in the wrong order, which is very mean and cruel and unkind, but a hundred percent true of the Hitchens. Yeah, right. A hundred percent true of the Hitchens. Yeah. Who would have poured the dye fast? Pause awesome.

That's good. Yeah, pause the fucking. No, he died first, remember? He liked the 16th. Oh, Paul, yeah. Right. Yeah. But the replacement Paul is still pretty fucking gut.

Yeah, he's pretty decent. Yeah. Was that a post? Also, can I just say in general, this is Ray Comfort doing a movie about evolution. He looks like the right side of a backwards evolution chart. Like exactly. You could just put his hat. He looks like he's going to be an amoeba in another couple million years.

Like he's on as well. He does, but just to the like Benjamin button evolutionarily. Yeah, actually, but just to the left of him, like the few stages of all that was like Chuck Norris in like the 18s also. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Somebody put that together because that's like an accurate nextris in like the 18s or so. Yeah. Okay. So if anybody put that together because that's like an accurate next step, we found out. Right. So I was you have to wonder like how Ray thinks like the city he's in God there says he didn't see all those buildings

get built. Right. Like things. Jesus. But yeah. So he put he puts up the darkest quote. He puts up a Darwin quote that basically says the same thing. We can't see evolution because it happens over a long period of time. And then we cut to Ray explaining the concept, it's saying too much to even call it a concept, the excuse of kinds to PC Myers. This is so stupid. Yeah, this is a lot of the film.

He talked about the different kinds. He says, you know, you've got the dog kind, which consisted of the coyote and the dog. And I thought, and he said, end of list. So that is it. You know, that is the end of the list. I thought, God, wolves have got to be livid right now. The amount of good work, like the PR that's got into wolves and they go behind coyotes. Right.

I wrote them in notes. They're basically as livid as I was when I saw on Twitter, someone announcing they were going to start a revolution, new style of podcast where they seek out conversations of people they disagree with. So, wow. I am the wolf. You know, when the street epistemologists did the same thing on a show that they called being reasonable.

Oh, wow. God, guys, love this. Seriously? Yeah, that's a thing. It started a little while after some of the street epologist, street epistimologist came to QED and told about being reasonable as a podcast. Oh amazing. That inspires me to do something.

And that's something is asking three letters to be one of the words. Show called citation needed when citation is needed. It's stupid. Oh, it'll be terrible. So yeah, so, but what Ray Comfort is saying is that evolution can't be true because animals never change kinds. They might change species, but they don't change kinds. What are kinds?

Whatever he needs them to be in order for that sentence to remain correct. Yeah, it's whatever word he zooms out to in his dumb concept that is backwards. It will mean every biological classification from kingdom to species, all of them at different points within this movie. Yeah. And he's so stupid with it that he talks about the dog kind,

then he talks about the feline kind and the feline kind, he says, like the tiger, all the kitten, but not the cat. You didn't go. Yeah. The feline kind. You skipped cat. Amazing.

Yeah. And his point is basically like, show me a cat dog right now. And like, what, first of all, we do have that. We actually created it. I put a picture. It's adorable. Yeah. Cornell did it.

It is adorable. It's actually called cat dog in Polish because of the scientist who made it happen, I think. Well, and also at, but PZ Myers, as well, I can show you a, a fossil of a common ancestor to both cats and dogs, which is exactly what you're asking for and break out from it's like, yeah, but how long ago was that? He's like, millions of years ago. He's like, ah, doesn't count. I already said millions of years.

Can't see that. Yeah. Right? Yeah. He's like, answer this question, PZ Myers. Oh, you, don't count. I already said millions of years. Can't see that. Yeah, right? Yeah, he's like, answer this question, Peasy Myers. Oh, you can. All right. Well, I'll put the follow question to a random kid I found. Yes. Just walk you by himself.

I think it's, right, because we kind of mediately to this biology student going like, I'm sorry, man. Are you asking if I have fossils on me now? Right? Yeah. Are you holding? Okay, that's stupid. But the next step from Ray Comfort is, no, you don't have a fossil.

It is Christian specifically God that did all of this. Yes. Yes. That's the context throughout. Right. The, the therefore is amazing. That we got this one poor kid that looks so sorry that he said, yes, to this, the, the therefore is amazing. We got this one poor kid that looks so sorry that he said yes to this, the Asian kid.

He's going like, yeah, man, I went to the Smithsonian and the experts had put up this thing about all the different, you know, the different various species that evolved into humans. And he's like, yeah, but you're just trusting them. He's like, over you, over just some weird dude in California with a fucking porn stash. Yes, I definitely am.

Yeah. And this is the kid who's a chemistry major. So, oh my God, the chemistry major didn't have two hand knowledge of something that is not chemistry. Right. Well, we better go and pack up all the natural history museums right now. They all clearly alive because this chemistry, this 19 year old chemistry major couldn't prove evolution for us. Right.

Yeah, he tricks a bunch of his 19 year olds into using the word faith or agreeing to its use when he says that they have faith in evolution. Oh, you have faith in the experts. Faith and they're like, yeah, sure do. He's like, ah, gotcha and they're like, did you though? When? She says, one of the kids, like, and it actually knows what trick is being used here,

and he's super careful, he goes like, well, yeah, man, I have trust in the experts based on the evidence that they've presented to me. He's like, so fake. And he's like, what ever, man. And the problem here is he's not asking these kids, can you demonstrate evolution? He's asking, can you demonstrate evolution

in a way that will be understandable to me, an idiot in bad faith. Right. That's what they're passing in this and all of their answers here. Yeah. And what he's tacitly asking without realizing it is say something to make me go away because this is the worst day ever and they'll come up with a problem. Right. Yeah. So we cut back to PC Myers. He's been rated because PC Myers keeps going on like, well, there are hundreds of examples of it. He's like, give me just one. And he's like, I feel like hundreds are more convincing. But okay.

How about the stickleback, right? Which the stickleback is a type of fish that's just like genetically, it's just fucking weird and where it comes from. It's not what you would, it's not related to what you'd think it was going to be related to. It would be a good example if he allowed PC Myers to get all the way through the example, but he's like, oh, what kind of animal did the stickleback fish evolved into? And he's like a different species of fish. He's like, still a fish doesn't count.

Yeah. Didn't turn into a bird. Show me a stickle bit. No, it doesn't fly. I win that. Yeah. That's what kind means to him at this moment. So it doesn't count. Yeah,

he wants the fish to have turned into something other than a fish. And I think PZ Myers actually fucked up here. I think he missed a trick because he could have shown Ray a video of one of those Billy Bigmouse and just blown Ray's fucking mind. Like, you see, this used me just to regular fish, but it's evolved to be able to sing, take me to the river. So, you know, evolution is real. like you know, a fish, but it's a vault to be able to sing, take me to the river. So, you know, evolution is real. It's involved. It's tail away. It's just, it's just on a piece of wood. It's a part of flat. Oh, then we get some random dude who's waiting for his family to get out of the bathroom at Disneyland or something. And we cut into the middle of whatever this guy was saying,

no, it's not deceptively edited. And he goes like, well, you know, when we came out of the ground as a mammal and Ray stops him and, well, you know, when we came out of the ground as a mammal and Ray stops him and he goes, well, I thought we came out of the sea as though you only ever come out of one thing. Yes, right? They come out as only have a left one building in his life.

And he just comes out like, but you can hear the panic in his voice when it realizes he hasn't prepared any gotcha questions for the fact that our ancestors used to live under the ground for a while. So he didn't have that. He's like, can we get to the sea things? I've got sea questions. I've got nothing for like the tiny little mouse like things we used to be. Yeah, the guys like it's both of those along the way, idiot. And he's like, we're talking about water. I have to the sea is the water lung fuck cut. Well, and his and his gotcha for the sea is so stupid

right? Because he's like, well, when we came out of the ocean, did we have, and it's got you for the sea, it's so stupid, right? Because when we came out of the ocean, did we have lungs? These are gills. And I'm like, dude, there's a lung fish. Right? Like, we have that missing. Like, we have that. Jesus.

And then we cut back to him, berating PC, Myers. And he's like, no, no, I'm not looking for a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a, a speciation. I'm looking for a change of coins. And he's like, you know, what is that fucking word mean? He's like, again, whatever I need it to. PC laughs out loud as he realizes at this moment that Ray thinks the word kind is magical. Yes. And he shows it. It's great. He's just like, oh, my God, you dumb.

Okay. We're going to have to go way back. Cut. There was also a great moment here where he's like stops in the middle of his video to show you how nervous he was talking to all of these people when they started getting angry at him. He's like, look, you can see my hands shaking as I harass this poor biology professor that thought I was asking these questions in earnest. Oh, no, it's because he says, like, can you give me an example? And the guy says, I'll give you thousands. And then Ray's stopping there to be like, oh, I was so nervous. He was going to give me thousands or he's going to give me a perfect example.

But he's just winding up to a point where this guy will not meet the ludicrous standard that Ray had deliberately said to be unmeatable. Yeah. And then they show that guy in like the black and white pop scare view. Yes. Yes. And also we go along his his bookshelf to point out that he had a nice copy of the origin of the species. So therefore he's wrong. But it's really weird because you see him like circle this particular copy and then look it up on Amazon. We see a screenshot of Amazon and it's like the anniversary edition of something. So he's got a Darwin book. So he's got to be full of

bullshit. But things that you look along the shelf, he's picked a Darwin book of the Darwin shelf every other book on that. It is a version of a Darwin book in one form or another. So so here's the thing. No, here's the amazing thing about this, Marsha's, that that anniversary edition, that is Ray Comfort's edition of Origin of Species, which he and Kurt Cameron were giving out on college campuses that had a whole big preface about how this is all bullshit and it's racist. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. That's any plagiarized Darwin for like 50. He don't have out of context bullshit. Yeah. Wow. I didn't realize that. So this guy actually had one of Ray's books on the shelf. Okay, that makes sense.

Why Ray would pick that out. Right. And then Ray explains to us, like, yeah, the minute this guy realized who I was, he respectfully kicked me out of his office. I feel like that happens a lot to Ray. There's a lot of people out there who are very respectful to Ray and exactly the same fashion. Yeah. And just to be clear about Ray's understanding of kind here, his argument is,

everything is still a thing after a thing called evolution happens, so evolution is fake, because I can make it be thing. He says, there's 14 definitions of species, as if to say, they're four species of meaning. So yeah, there is, there might be 14 definitions of species, as if to say they're four species in meaning. So yeah, there is, there might be 14 definitions of species who cares, but there's also not one single sign distant the world who believes in your definition of kind. So there isn't even one definition of kind. Right. How many here? Exactly. Well, and then fucking PC Myers, we cut back to PC Myers, talking about the Lenski experiments. And he's like, well, you know, this, this is observable over human lifetime. And he's like, yeah, but there's still bacteria. And I'm like, that's a kingdom now.

Right? So if I showed you a cat turned into a dog, you'd just be able to say, well, that's still a mammal, right? Still matter. Yeah. Exactly. Exactly. And time matter.

Exactly. I win. Yes. All right. Well, obviously, PZ needs a break and can't get one. So we're going to take one on his behalf, but we'll be back in a minute with even more evolution versus God. Hello there. Hi, sir.

Two questions. Can I help you? And also, why are you so very sweaty? and also why are you so very sweaty? Well, I certainly hope so, and I carry the moral burden of a million dangerous lies that encompass me down to my acronym, Glenn. Sure, sure. Do you have an appointment?

Well, no, but I'd like to talk to somebody here at YouTube about my video being taken down. Okay, so you came to our corporate headquarters to... You know that video had over 90,000 thumbs downs. How am I gonna get that back? Well, sir, this isn't how getting your video back up works. There's a little button you can click on and you fill out a form from your account.

Oh, no, I did that. It didn't work. So I called your office and some Robert asked me to press one thing, like, that sounded communist, so I hung up and I drove down here. It's really scary. They let you drive in it though.

Yeah. Okay. Well, I'm sorry, sir. There's nobody here that can talk to you about your video that got taken down. We don't do that. Well, what if I demand it goes back up in the name of free speech? Yeah.

We actually just have a security code for that. It's called a 346. Oh, what happens then? You get forcibly ejected, then make a video about how much were a bunch of fascists that are trying to silence you, which you then upload to our website, disproving your own premise just by stating it. That's 346 four, six. Oh, I see.

I see, well, um, can I interest you in a study Bible? No. I, I suppose I'll leave then. Yeah, he's gone, sir. He's gone. That's a great job, David. Another Christian voice that we've silenced before you blow our whole evolution scam wide open.

Yeah. Thank you, sir. Yeah. I'll get Mr. Soros to send you a check immediately. Thank you, sir. And we're back for more of this shit. When we last left off, Ray was hiding behind the biologically undefined term kind, and we're going to rejoin the action with him defending himself against that very criticism, right?

He's like, when my video came out, a lot of people gave me a shit for for saying coined, but as you can see by these people nodding and going, Oh, huh, they knew what I was talking about. They knew I meant. Yeah. What actually happened though is some guy helped him out by figuring out what he meant and helped Ray by explaining what he thought what kind would mean. And then he started to explain that to him in the cut because he was about to get a correct answer for one person. I had so much written here because when he says, you know, one continual criticism that I get, I assume he means one of the many, but he didn't want to admit just how many people

told him that his editing technique was lacking or that he frames his shot like he's filming a POV porn video where he exploits a random student in an Eastern European country. We want to leave those particular creatures in his out. Yeah, he doesn't mention those ones. He's so close to these people. He has to back up. It's gross. You can see in one of the kids' shards just how close we are to come for is you can see

him perfectly frame. He's basically in this kid's eye. He's basically touching his kid's eye. He's basically touching his kids eyeball. It's madness. But when he talks about the kind thing, he says, you know, all these biologists told me that I was being a disingenuous dick when I force them to talk about a nonsense term like kind, but they knew enough to call me a dick about it. And therefore I win. That's his thing. Right. He actually has a montage of like, he says, well, they didn't change kinds. And PZ Myrish goes, aha. And that's a montage of like, he says, well, they didn't change kinds. And PZ Myers goes, uh-huh. And that's his evidence. He see, he see, uh-huh. He knows, he

well, they actually, they've mis- translated on screen. They write it as, uh-huh, as though PZ Myers was excited to learn about the feline kind. But yeah, he was just like, yep. Wow, you're done. Yeah. Exactly. PZmiya says, aha, and right, and therefore Ray is correct. Or Pzmiya needs to learn how to do a non-committal, mmm, and that's been interesting. What is Facebook more and more inside this? Like, I run classes on it. Call me Pzmiya. I thought you were at the top.

It was an important skill. Now I just want to bring Marsh around and like try to like bait Ray comfort into talking to Mars. Oh God, I love it so much. Please do this. I feel like, you know, I'm like, you know, if I sat around the UCLA campus, you know, three days a week for a month, I'd probably catch him, right? I look stone. I always look stone. Yeah, but then we got to bring like bail money and stuff. I think somebody else to surreptitiously record it. So you have an unadded version of it for later. Yeah. And you'd have to have someone else to like extract whatever you insert into Ray Comfort at the end of that conversation as well. So you've got to have a trained medical

professional on hand. Yeah. Also, just by the way, what Ray means when he's saying kind, PZ actually explains it to him for a second. The only meaningful thing that Ray could be talking about is macro evolution, which is also real. And PZ starts explaining that and then we get a cut. Yeah. But Ray thinks there are 1400 total kinds like on Noah's Ark. And that's what he believes.

Exactly. That wasn't PC. That was talking about macro evolution though. I want to point that out because I don't think I don't think PC Myers would have used the term macro evolution to a creationist. That is a creationist term, not a biological one. Yeah, but yeah, but that's exactly what he's saying. He's like, that doesn't have a meaning. You've basically created a term specifically crafted so that it doesn't comport with reality and then you got mad at reality for not meeting your definition.

Yes, that's what we're watching. We also haven't seen about how, it's explained to him time and again, that Darwinian evolution requires a long time for him to work. And he's like, okay, but can you show me it over not that? No, and the way he's doing that is like, oh yeah, you can't just show me like these things

turn into these things without showing me a process. Like he's denying that eggs, butter and sugar can turn into a tasty cake because he refuses to wait for an hour. Oh, you're just have faith. Just I should have faith that cookie door turns into cookies. Ludicrous. Show me this cookie door immediately telling to a cookie in my hand.

You're telling me you just throw it right into big oven and then it's out. I'm supposed to believe that's not magic. Yeah. He keeps saying that and then they'll be like, no, I can't show you millions of years of evolution right now. And he's like, gotcha. And they're like, no, you didn't get me. I'm not, I am ungotten.

Here. And then we get this long montage where we're gonna rip Darwin's fintches a new beak apparently, right? Because like, he's asking people for examples of evolution, of course, almost everybody's go to here is Darwin's fintches. And he's like, no, but they're still birds

at the end of it. So it does. Yeah. And again, someone should have just fucked with real comfort on this, you know, like, okay, yeah, the Darwin Finches, they actually evolved into Atticus Finch, you know, from Tequila Mockingbird. It was, it was one of those whole T-Dead Mutant Ninja Turtle oo situations, some of the Satanist sludge splashed onto a bird bass, a finch turned into aticus finch. Then he was trained in the law by a wise old barrister who turned into an eagle for some reason.

And that's where we get the term legal eagle. There you go. I may have been drinking by this point in my notes. I've got to confess this was a couple of glasses of wine in. I just wanted somebody like Ray's like, well, finches are still finches. I went, I wanted somebody to release a dove from I just wanted somebody like Ray's like, well, Finches are still Finches. I win. I wanted somebody to release a dove from their jacket

and Ray would just be like, ah, all right. I go home, you win. Well, and then he's like, you know, he's, they're like, yeah, but they're, but they're different species. They're distinct species of Finches. He's like, well, that's adaptation, not evolution, which is like saying those are innings, not a baseball game.

Right? That's what evolution is. It's adaptation over time. Yeah. Oh, all of this kind of insistence on kinds. He's not coming down to this ludicrous thing he has with kinds. It's like, you know, name something as change kinds. It's all right. But first, right, you name something as change. Rubei Gadagal, you know, while we're making up silly terms that are not useful anyway. Sure. You know, it's a bit like, you know, how is a kid? All dogs are boys and all cats are girls. It's like Ray comforts saying, okay, now tell me how evolution works,

given that all cats are girls. It's like, no, you're going to a child, you're going to be standing there, I first need to disabuse you, otherwise you're not going to get anywhere here. Right, well, and the funny thing is, is that as so often happens in Ray videos, he doesn't know the difference of somebody being stumped and someone giving him that, are you being this stupid on purpose? Look.

Yes. Right. So we get this montage of people just going like, are you fucking serious right now, man? You know that like fish isn't even a biological classification, right? Don't you know that though? Yeah. And it's great. Every time he's saying this to one of his students, it puts up what major they were doing.

And I thought, oh my God, why wasn't Eli on that campus? And I wanted to come up saying drama major. And then we cut back to Eli trying to be a finch. Try and come just being a finch. The tone is just slightly different. Finch. Very slightly different. Yeah. No, and he's like, you know, he's asking all these kids, can you come up with a proof of

evolution? Again, we're still on that same fucking question. And of course, chemistry majors like, and physics majors like, and no biology major time. And the chemistry kid at one point is like, might a con drill DNA? And I'm like, no, yeah, actually you have that correct race to dumb to know that. But yes, that would prove evolution. But then ultimately, he makes the kids land on. So you just trust the experts that dedicated their lives to studying

this and and show their work and have a rigorous process of fact checking and everybody's like, yes, and he's like, ha, faith. Yeah. Yeah. He shows a montage of these students being like, yes, in some context. But it's really just them like blinking SOS and like tapping their head and looking around. They're friends to execute them. Exactly.

He says, well, you know what we call that because he asked the one case, like, you know, so you just trust the experts and he's like, yes, I trust the experts. He's like, well, you know, we call that blind faith. And I'm like, no, like at best, it's faith, it's not blind faith. Yeah, exactly. It's not blind faith at all. It's reasonable faith. It's it's proportional faith, proportional belief, absolutely.

Yeah, trust. Yeah, no, he's like, he says, like like the kid just said, he believed them based on the things that he'd been shown. And then Ray comforts like, well, that's blind faith. No, and also again, as he's pointed out a million times, are we now saying that faith is a bad thing, a bad reason to believe shit, because if that's the standard we're using, I'm willing to concede this point. And we are saying that because they literally pull up a court from Richard Dawkins exactly saying that in the next moment. That's the next thing we do. Right. Yes. You can't do a dick slap on the concept of faith without your whole existence being caught in the crossfire here. You're a casual

chief. You're an argument here. Faith has multiple definitions, much like species. The one for religion faith is the dumbest one. That's like, this is a dumb version of epistemology where you have faith like religion. There's also like, you have faith in your family. We're totally different, different definition. So, and then we're about to get to his second argument, which is great, but before we get there, after the Dawkins quote, I have to point this out

because I loved it so God damn it. He asks Gale Kennedy the anthropology professor if she believes in intelligent design and her stifled laugh is my ringtone It was just delicious. Oh, it's so good Do you think we're intelligent in design? It's like right. I don't even think this movie was intelligently designed It's definitely not intelligent. He edited So then we move on to what I found to be his most confusing dunk, right? Where he asked the girl, like, is the world intelligently designed? And she says, no, no, we evolved. And he says, okay, then make me a rose.

If it wasn't intelligently designed, you should be able to do it. Yes. But isn't that backwards? Like, because she's intelligent and he's asking her to design. But I think he was also saying you're not intelligent designed as well. I couldn't quite tell, but it, the analogy I wrote down is, well, is ice cream made in an oven? No. Well, are you an oven? No, I'm not an oven. All right. Then you should be able to turn my microphone into ice cream.

This very sad. Check me. Right. QD Kaisels. Yep. Also, again, when he's yelling conjurer rows right now, dirty atheist, if a magician with a hat doesn't, it brings out like, if a magician with a hat can beat all your arguments, you're an idiot. You shouldn't make your movie. Right. Oh, I wanted to say, this is where I was called tagging in Eli. I'm like, oh, Eli could have made him a rose right there.

And then insisted, no, man, I just, I crafted this out of thin air. Why do you ask? Right, but again, just big picture. He's saying a rose can't just come from nothing. It has to be made by a ghost who came from nothing and then came to life and then created roses. That's his theory.

And then made a rose out of nothing. Yes, exactly. It disproves, it accidentally loops back around and just proving whatever stupid fucking point he was trying to make. Yeah. He asked one kid, he's like, well, why can't you make a rose? He says, well, I don't have supernatural abilities. I don't get the question, man.

It's so stupid. It's so stupid. I want to just one of these people to say, yes, I can make a rose from nothing. Ping done. There's a rose made from nothing. Oh, sorry, but it only exists in a higher dimension that you only access after you die. If you're really nice. Now tell me all the ways my role differs from your God. Prove me wrong, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's like a

witch came first, the chicken of the egg trick question. It's Yahweh. That's what Ray was trying to do. We got back to Gail Kennedy for a second. An intelligent design. She goes, so why do you think that they don't teach that in school? And, and Ray has a comeback. He goes, well, because they're not allowed to. And I'm like, right, but why are they not allowed to? Yeah. There also, there's a very good reason that they can't teach one plus one equals three in schools, right? Can you tell me about that reason? Well, he, he can, in fact, it's the FFRF spot fault. Damn it. Okay. But there is intelligent design taught at like every university.

It's just in one of the fiction departments. We have to let you talk about it. Well, we have all fiction schools devoted to that nonsense, right? Yeah. But yeah, right. He says, well, you know, the fact that the FFRFs use schools if they teach about intelligence, design, that's why they don't teach it. And so first of all, the FFR does so, but the suit is like proving that this is religious dogma

not science. Yeah. Right. Like that's how they won that that lawsuit was by pointing out that no, this is actually just religion pretending to be science. And the court's going, oh, you're right. It is. Yeah. In fairness to Ray, though, I talked to Jeff Blackwell. He's a professional atheist lawyer. If you bring a Bible onto campus and he sees you, he will tackle you and make you smoke the whole Bible. That's true. No, you will.

Jeff's big on that. Yeah. So and then all of a sudden, we're talking about the big bang because apparently that's involved in evolution. Oh, God. I love Tim. He sort of praced the big bang. He's like, so there was nothing. Then there's big bang, big explosion. Yadda, Yadda, Rosalind Jurafs, what more do you mean? That's all the scientists can

say about the big bang. Yeah. But like, no, you're right, Ray. It wasn't that. Instead it was nothing then light, then ground, then plants, then eventually a light source. Yadda, Yadda,, yada, giraffes. That was the right way it went. Right. But Ray's like, no, you were saying a bomb and then roses and giraffes popped out. And they're like, I'm not saying that.

Yes, you are. No, I'm not. You've devolved into money, Python's deadfinch sketch. Like for real. Yes. Yes, you are. No, I'm not. For so long.

Yes, it happens a few more times. I liked that it became a deadfinch for the purpose of this announcement. Thank you. So the chemistry student comes up at this point and he goes like, oh, oh, vestigial organs. I just came up with one that proves evolution. And I'm like, good. Yeah. Excellent.

Excellent. Well done. Why would Ray let somebody bring up vestigial organs in his movie? Like for integrity of editing, he left that in this one time. Well, because he has an argument, he thinks he has a reputation, right? He does think so. He does.

He does. First, he's like, give me the definition of vestigial. Is that okay, right? How about something? How about hisness? Something that used to serve a function at one point before it became outmoded and completely defunct,

but traces of it still remain, but uselessly. Like, for example, creation is a long Christianity. Did I win? Did I do it? Christianity is connected to my spine, like the appendix. Yeah, but one kid points out that the appendix and other points out the caustic spoon. And they're like, yeah, these are things that like, you know, used to have some evolutionary function. And then they're just still sitting around. and he's like, well, actually, I think you'll find that the appendix is very useful and some kind of like, we'd sit in there anyway. So the body thought of something to do with it kind of a way, you know, yeah, he's like, the coxic isn't vestigial. It's attached to stuff.

It's like, yeah, he's attached to stuff because it's there, right? If it wasn't, if it wasn't attached to it, it wouldn't be there and it wouldn't be fallen off. It was just cold, right? Yeah, like if we had wisdom teeth that were just levitating in our throat, he'd become an atheist. I don't understand. I don't understand.

And then we get to this fucking weird one that he's best worst, where he starts asking these stone to 19 year olds to name famous atheists. I wanted so bad for what I'm just say, Peasy Myers. Right. And he starts with Neil deGrasse Tyson. Not an atheist. He likes handles Messiah. That's like, yeah. Sorry. Also, he just called him Neil deGrasse Tyson as well. And he didn't even bother to figure out what his name actually is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but Neil do it.

But then Ray comes up and says, eh, no, not technically an atheist because he wanted to get a show on Fox. Right. And another kid says Isaac Newton. I'm like, oh, terrible answer. That was Gale. No, it wasn't a student Gale Kennedy said that. And I'm like, no, no, you teed him up on that because Isaac Newton was a theist.

I do want to see all the names that were cut out because I reckon there's a few names that he cut out because he did not have a good answer for them whereas he could answer Sagan and DeGrasse Tyson things. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and then he points out that apparently we atheists have a website that we use

to convert people to atheism by just naming famous people who are atheists on smart website. Yeah. No, and like at first I was like, I don't remember that, but then I was like, no, I do. It was, it has the hard drive and the recycle bin on the front page. You guys probably went to it. Yeah.

One of the atheists on that site is Ted Turner. And that's actually how they got me on board. That's why Ted Turner the atheists. That's why I'm now an atheist because of Ted Turner. So in the interest of promoting his, all the cool kids aren't doing it argument or whatever he approached this, he shows us this meme of like, it's just a bunch of famous scientists that says atheism good enough for these idiots. But all the people on that thing aren't really atheists. Sagan said he was an agnostic after all. Right. So he's he's not on your side, then, right? He's explicitly not on your side of this. Right. Mark Twain used God as a metaphor. So

that makes him a theist. Yeah. Well, ignore Bill Gates, Morgan Freeman, Carrie Fisher, who were also in this conversation, but we don't talk about them because Ray couldn't find anything about that. Right, yeah, exactly. Albert Einstein, I can't find any quote where he doesn't explicitly say that he's against my beliefs, but he fell short of using the word atheist also on my side. Yeah. Also, Abe Lincoln turns out Abe Lincoln

was actually a Christian. And then God fucking murdered him. Right after doing some really good stuff. Yeah. What the fuck was saying? Lincoln was an atheist. And then, but he's like, but there was one person on that meme that was a real atheist, Ernest Hemingway. And we're like, yeah, no, that's a pretty good one for us. And he's like, and he blew his head off with a shotgun. So there's a thier, and that's what a thier, some gets you. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Everybody who's actually an atheist, kill, it becomes a raging alcoholic and then kill themselves with a shotgun. 100%. It's, it's on the horizon for all of us. Well, possibly more so heath than the rest of us, but all of us on that particular journey. It's a good thing no Christians ever killed themselves or this would be very awkward for

him. She's, he literally says, he says, you know, Ernest Hemingway blew his head off. So there's your poster boy when it comes to atheism. That's a quote from the fucking movie. Yeah, him and Ted Turner to be fair, but yeah, the two of them. Yeah, prominent. Ha ha ha.

All right, well, the Hemingway bit was low even for race. So I need a quick minute to calm down, but first, let me give it back through the hard cell. What would you give to watch Ernest Hemingway kick-rate comforts ass? Would Hemingray rip his dick off in homage to the Sun also rises? What would that sound like, you think? Well, stick around for answers to far less interesting questions.

We return for the generic Ray Comfort video wrap up conclusion of evolution versus God. Hey, God, you wanted to see me? Yeah, Gabriel, come real command and grab a seat uh... so what's up big guy yeah so i need you to kill somebody again oh yes sure yeah yeah uh... who's the target abraham linkin who what

is abraham linkin the abolition guy and you kill no i know who he is you you had me give him diabetes and syphilis also is his wife. That's right. We killed a bunch of his kids, dude. Classic.

Okay, yeah, so go ahead and kill that guy. Sorry, are we pro slavery? Yeah, no, good question. I'm kind of testing the wind on that one to see how the number shake out with all people. But it fucked up my book either way, so he's got to go Okay, I mean I'm on it obviously, but just curious Wait, what is your source of absolute morality? Oh, I don't have one

Cool. Yeah, it is cool. It's the best Are Are you a good person to get the fuck out, needing over, get out. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha And now, as the skit may have suggested, we're onto the argument from moral absolutes. Now, the way this argument is supposed to go for the creationist, is do you believe in or moral absolutes know? And then they keep asking you increasingly immoral things. So this isn't absolutely immoral. This isn't and you're supposed to have to keep saying yes, as though you're then endorsing

those things, right? Yeah. But I'm not clear from this, whether Ray is pro or anti-moral absolutes. I genuinely have no idea having what this. I don't know where he was going with it and where he falls on that issue. Right. Well, yeah, he does it. He employs this argument so badly that I thought I needed to clarify and may not know what he was going for. So, you know, he asked PC this and PC rigles out of it as best as you can wriggle out of it.

And he's like, and Ray Cufford's like, so who makes the rules? He's like, well, we make the rules based on our collective societal morality. He's like, so if Hitler made the rules, then Hitler would be moral and it's like, no man, then the rules would be immoral. Yeah, it's like, so if Hitler made the rules,

like, right, do you agree with Hitler? We make the rules, right? Unless we are all Hitler, we can say to Hitler, your rules are bad. Right. Unless you think we should be going by Hitler's rules, right? Is that what you're going with it? We actually did a war about this against Hitler. If I remember correctly.

We had a whole conversation, everything. And then he really leans into the, do you agree with Hitler kind of thing here because he was like, well, but but Hitler was just putting into practice survival of the fittest. And PC Myers was like, no, he wasn't in and Ray Comfort's like, well, what was he doing? And PC Myers is murdering people, right? You get how the Holocaust is different than Finchbeaks, right? Right. Seriously, you must be lying right now.

It's amazing. PZ Myers buried a land mine right in front of Ray Comfort in full view. Then not only did Ray step on it, but then he also included him stepping on it in his fucking video. Yes, right? Because because the only way Ray Comfort can say that survival of the fittest is what Hitler was doing is by implying that like Jews were unthit. Yeah. And he's saying, well, you know, that evolution in its rawest form is cruel. Therefore, all non-raw forms of evolution are all so cruel is the argument he's trying to

make. It's like, maybe don't look at things in its rawest form. There is certainty and nuance and context in the world. Right. No, he has no nuance though. He's saying evolution and the Holocaust both have dying in them. So, you're hide. Right. He says, he says, it's survival of the fittest, just like the lion eating the ant. I'm like, you're so bad at this. Is that why we don't have ant alope? You fucking idiot. Yeah, he's like, so yeah, all cruelty is the same as evolution. And if you press me on this, I'll cut this into you from my picture. Yeah, right. Yeah, like I did with the other people who did that.

And he asked someone, if your neighbor was drowning and your dog was drowning, which do you save from people like say the dog? But I know, like, save the neighbor. The dog can probably swim better. I mean, come on, the dog is probably going to be a better swim than the average neighbor. I don't know, man. Yeah. But my neighbors' car alarm went off 28 times yesterday. I feel like I'm the one drowning them in a circumstance. I'm saving the dog that is really good at swimming either way. I just feel like,

I would murder most of my neighbors to save the dog. Okay, that's fair. That's fair. But here's the thing. No, I think what happened with this because he asks everybody this, you know, if you, if you could save your neighbor or your dog, which would you save? And most of them hem and hoff for a little while in land on dog, I think he expected them to unequivocally be like, well, I would obviously I would save the human. And then he could go, yes, see, because evolution is wrong. You know that humans have a soul and dogs don't. And then when people are like, I actually would save the dog, he went, yeah, you're probably an evolutionist, though, huh?

So why you think that? That's okay. Right. Yeah. I see. Okay. Because I was thinking, you know, he's doing this whole, if a dog's drowning in a person's drowning, what do you do?

Is it okay, right? Let's flip the tables here. Let's say a person is starving or a church needs a new roof. Who do you think, right? Let's flip the tables here. Let's say a person is starving or a church needs a new roof. I think we need to answer that, right? Yeah. I just be clear from an ethical perspective, the correct answer is the dog. The dog is less likely to have known the danger it was putting itself in and whenever situation that it is. Yeah. And dogs are better than people. Yeah, but the dog is more likely just being not enjoying it. It's enjoying a little swim. It's fine. It's enjoying it. But don't probably jump in if it's on a cord just to have a little swim. And you're generally speaking dogs are better. I'm just saying like I know that sounds bad,

but like if I'm picking one. All right. You're agreeing with Hitler now all of a sudden you're giving a right? What do you mean by you genetically speaking? I mean that just the do you like? No, he's not here. For you, Jennings. In terms of their their their ability to do you like I know he's not a pro eugenics point you all in terms of their their ability to do eugenics. Oh interesting interesting. Yeah, I hadn't really thought about that. Although a dog has done eugenics, no, wasn't it was a cat? What? It was a very famous case of a cat having done eugenics. What? You're going to need to explain this one out. I'm going to go there. So this may be apocryphal, but as I recall it and so people go in, look this up, there was a research scientist who moved to a small island to study the local floor on Fauna

and he brought a cat with him and his cat brought back a dead bird and it was like, oh, wow, we've not seen this bird for a long time. We thought these were extinct. And by the time he started studying the bird, the species of bird on the island were extinct because the cat personally extinct them. Like, what cat extinct that entire species of birds? Yeah, you don't bring a cat with you, man, damn. But yeah, so basically so Ray is saying, oh, so you guys think that dogs are more valuable

than humans because you would save your dog versus your neighbor. And again, that's not even, it's dumb neighbor. And again, that's not even as dumb as his point is that's not even what they're saying. They're saying that they would save their dog who they have a personal relationship with over some random stranger that happens to live next door. Yes. Yeah. Right. Well, it's just ranking the species. You know, your dog is worth less because they've got fewer evolution points. Right. Right. And then to emphasize his us evolutionists think that animals are as good as people. He throws this quote out from Richard Dawkins, where he said, well, I'm sorry, just made it.

And bro throws this quote out where he says any fetus is less human than an adult pig. Yes. Which is probably I guess correct. Yeah. Yeah. But it's way out of context. Radius. The previous Dawkins quote was like Dawkins pre-2011, so you're like, okay, I don't have to like read this through my fingers to hope that it doesn't go somewhere terrible in the end. This one, this one feels a bit more like the don't take my precious honey trends,

people are ik version of Dawkins. Yeah. It was literally taken from Dawkins Twitter. So, although it did have context on there where he said, with respect to those meanings of human that are relevant to the morality of abortion, then we can say that a fetus is less than a pig, which is in a very specific and limited weird way. It's not in all situations pre-baby is more human, is less human than a pig. That's not what he was saying.

If it's a charming motherfucking pig, I think I'm more of a fool. Like a pig. Yeah, if it than a pig. That's not what he was in. If it's a charming motherfucking pig, I think I'm more of a fool. Like, if it's bang, if it's bang, if it's like doing the sheep dog thing, if it's the pig from Charlotte's web, which was some pig, it was absolutely some pig. No, it was, it was some pig. So, and I also want to point out that at this moment,

he's talking to Gail Kennedy at this moment. I had paused it, Lucinda walked down, I was right in my nose. Lucinda walked in on the pause and she says, well, it looks like she just smelled shit. And she ended it. It absolutely did. So another point for Gail, she won this episode.

She smelled shit with her ears. That's what I'm talking about. Right. There's also this great moment where one of the students that is interviewing explains that there's no afterlife and he tries to do the stupid analogy, a radio, which is where the radio is broken. It doesn't mean the signal is gone, but he doesn't know how that works.

So instead he uses a car being turned off. Yeah. Yeah. The Transformers have a soul apologetic. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, the transformers have a soul apologetic. Yeah, absolutely. Jacob, just imagine for a moment that you'll kit from not roder. Would you have a soul then? Now, QED, QED, yeah.

Yeah. So he goes, is there life in you? And the kid goes like, yeah, man, that sounds like a threat. When you ask like that is like that is your soul. Boom, I'm done with this guy. I'm done with this guy But then inevitably inexorably we arrive at the RUA good person portion of the program Now Mars, this is your first experience with this I should I should point out that every single

Ray Comfort video ends with this same bit where he goes around and asks, are you a good person? And he says, well, have you ever told a lie? Have you ever stolen anything? Have you ever looked at a woman with lusted your heart? Well, then you're allying stealing adulterer. Yes, yeah, yeah, I get that. I get the sense that he does this all the time.

I mean, he does that in his obituries to Tina Turner. So he's going to do that in the things that he's filming and I just say, yeah. Oh god. Also, I don't know if this was an editing choice or just a coincidence, but everybody in this montage got way more stoned on way more powerful drugs somehow during this part of their interaction, which is fun. I think there's just an act like that, like that is the effect of talking to Ray Comfort for for so long.

Yeah. Right. Like you just get more stoned as you like the dumbness just sort of rubs off or something. I also, I want to point out how excited everyone's yes for have you ever looked at a woman with lost was right? Everyone seemed proud at how lustfully they'd looked at a woman or a man depending on the gender that he asked about. But I thought that was interesting, right? Because he did say to all the guys, have you ever looked at a woman with lust? Because you know, you've got to say

what the gospel says, but for the women, he said, you have ever looked at a man with lust. And I thought, is that what the gospel says? Are you changed the words? Because I know Jesus is fine with girl, girl. I don't know why you decided to change that to make a point right? Okay. My favorite person during that moment was Super Stone lady with sunglasses. Who's just like, okay, Julia. Yeah. Yeah. Just playing Simon says with Ray and like enjoying it. He's just being like, say lie. Hmm. Lie her. Say Thief. Say Thief. She says it. And then he's like, do you ever look at a man with lust and she posts this for a long time?

And she's just like, oh, lust, like a physically attractive man. Sorry, you're like right there. Like, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my,

my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my, my I laughed for so long because he asks, sir, he goes, have you ever looked at a man with lust and she just stares at him for like this long second and goes, not recently. Literally 20 seconds of that. I counted. That was good. That was good. He does a thing of like, what would you call me if I told loads of lies? And it's like, I'll cut to 20 minutes of tape of us coming up with insulting names of red com for like, please, just let us, this episode basically do you better this episode? What would you call me if I told Lords of lies who selective editing that completely

distortable people were saying, not to make a point that they didn't make? I call you Ray Comford. Well, yeah. Jesus Christ. We get to watch Julia, the big sunglasses girl. We get to watch her realize that he's an insane religious person. Cause like up until now, she's just been like, Oh, I'm going to be on some video or something. And then this is where he starts saying like, but if you ever used a Lord's name in vain, and she's like,

Oh, for fuck's sake, this was all this wasn't it. Damn it. Oh, yeah. Damn it. And he says, and you know, and that's only for the 10 commandments. And I wanted to carry on like, now let's talk grave in images. How do you get hammered with sugar? Have you ever wanted to kill a guy? I don't know. Have you wanted to kill a guy? He's like, yeah, just just one right? Just one. So then we cut to him asking somebody if they would sell one of their eyes for a million dollars. Yeah, the asking price for your eyes apologetic. I was like, okay, Ray, you know what, I'm listening. I'm listening. Right. Where are we going? What are you doing with this? Yeah, it's like so the things that you can prove exist and are useful of valuable to you.

So what about something unprovable in the imaginary, right? Right. How value is that? Well, and that's exactly it. Right. That's where his apologetic is going. You wouldn't sell your eyes, but you're so less even more valuable than your eyes and you're selling that for just some porn. Sell me your teeth. I'm the tooth fairy. That's the end of my argument. It's insane. And is this why he thinks he's got a whistle blowout when I'm not even convinced he's got a whistle? I met a barbell or other ones. I don't think it

would have a literal whistle at all. Yeah, he goes, he goes, he explains here that creation is proof of a creator, which is correct. Now prove it was created. No, oh, is that just oh, it's technological? Never mind then. And then he starts telling all these night, and this is the part of this that I hate the most, right? Where he starts explaining to all these 19 year old kids that they don't really believe in evolution. They just want to watch porn so they've rejected Jesus, right? He actually says to PC Myers, he's like, you know, I would, I say that you intuitively

know that I'm right. And I'm like, I say you intuitively know that you're a fucking chicken, right? So we can all do this. Yes. Yeah. And also when he's, when he's saying it's a PC Myers, he has to cut away like two seconds into the clip to, to like some stock footage because he only find two seconds where PC Myers is not looking at him like he's a fucking moron.

These are the only two seconds I could use because the rest of the time will not help my point at all. Well, I think we get this super condescending montage where he starts telling all of this the Stone 19 year old. He's like, you know, you have value and you're, you're important. And it's like, man, nobody was questioning that. Um, thanks, I guess. Jesus, this is where he, he shows us the graphic of his right wrong crossroads side.

Oh my God, this hurt me, this physically fucking pained me, this physically fucking pained me because he's got a crossroads of right wrong meets ethical unethical. Listen, pitch that in your heads. Pitch how that crossroads would look, okay? Now, bear in mind that he's got right at basically north. So wrong is west, and unethical is south, and ethical is east, which means unethical, like if you travel southwest,

you are equally right and wrong. You can assimilate these from right and wrong. You can simultaneously write and roll. I wonder what he thinks an axis is, math, math. He does not understand them. On the ethical becomes right. If you reach the intersection, I don't. Yeah, it if numbers exist in a different dimension in his head according to this.

According to his own insane, two-dimensional representation of a single dimension, because he just put two synonyms next to him. Right. Yes. Of all possible Cartesian morality space is an ethical gray area, like two of the quadrups. We have ethical wrong shit or unethical right shit. Yes, exactly.

But also because these are all, you know, it's a crossroads, they're all at 90 degrees. If you come up 45 degrees, either side of right, you're either right and ethical, all right and wrong. Right. What is the origin in his head? I wonder. Yeah, right. No good point. So yeah, but then he explains to the kids that they're like a person drowning in the ocean with a big money belt on filled with heavy gold and he's just trying to get him to take that off. And I'm like, you should really save the dog actually in this person, but I like, honestly, this is not like all the way through this video. I keep thinking to myself, oh god,

well, I wouldn't give to have been the person that he walked up on. But this is the part where I would punch him, right? Like this whole, like, but I care about you and I want your soul. This is the part where I would turn him inside out and just walk into a jail and say it was worth it, you know? Yes. Yeah.

This is where he's saying, like, do you know what God did? He sent us. Is it drowned us and all our children? Because it is that. It is that. No, after that, after that later, after that God paid our fine so he can legally dismiss our case, which isn't how courts or judges or fines work. The judge can't choose to pay the fine for you and then dismiss the case.

Like for you to be fine, the case has been heard. Right. That's that's that's that's that's fine. Yeah. But but again, like this, you step outside of already knowing Christianity's nonsense and think about what he's saying here. He's like, God loves you so much. He killed his kid for you. The least you could do is say, thank you. Yes. yeah. And this is where this portion, the first time I actually sat through this amount of Ray Comfort, this portion was really starting to great to me. And I started right, God, he's fucking relentless, isn't he? And I thought, the only way you can stop him using this footage, could you, clearly,

you can't object to using the footage, because YouTube will take the footage down, then put it back up with a blur over your face, and he'll take that down and put up the original. So the only thing you can do is to, when see Ray Comfort immediately get naked and waggle your cock at his camera and then he can't use it. So if you, if you, all it listeners, listen, if you ever see Ray Comfort, just immediately start undressing as a protective measure, like you're trying to run away from a bear, you know, just one piece of clothing at a time and he'll stop and he'll, he'll like sniff and like scratch at the piece of clothing, you know, anytime you stay. Yeah.

Also hold up a large clock with a second hand the whole time. Yeah. Right. I'm hopeful as well. He's like, you know what, Jesus, this last words on the crossword, I'm like, well, it depends on which gospel you're reading. I actually, Margeway, which is, which is strange because you would think that that's one of the details that they would, they would agree on because it's so important.

But no, his last words are the cross where it is finished because your sins are finished or something. You don't think he might have been talking about the crucifixion was just finished. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, ah, that was a whole thing. And then as though he knew I was going to be referring to him as stone to 19 year olds in my nose, the whole time he asks Julia, the sunglasses grow how old she is. And she says 22, but that's clearly her practice. I can have a beer answer, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. This is the inconsolably high lady with sunglasses. Yes, absolutely. Yeah. And he goes, when are you gonna die? And it's just like now everyone should punch

you, right? Now just the world should punch you. And she's like, I don't know, man, how much longer do you play it on talking to me? Because I'll blow my fucking brains out right here. I will pull a goddamn hamming way if you don't shut up. Yeah. But in fact, it's like, how old are you and when are you going to die? I mean, that is a conversation many of our listeners have had with their homophobic or transphobic parents. So a lot of people out there are getting, right? Yeah, Ray Cumber probably thinks that's just a natural thing to ask in the course of my conversation. When are you going to just die? Oh, a natural thing to be asked by someone.

Yeah. Where are you gonna just die? Oh, a natural thing to be asked by someone going to you, yeah. But she's just weeping with laughter at this point. Just be like, I have no idea. I'm not against this person. I'm gonna go back and get more drugs in a second. Oh, and this is why you're saying like,

you might die tonight or tomorrow. I'm not using scare tactics, I can't show. Cause those sound pretty much like scare tactics. Yeah, you're saying, you know, 150,000 people die every 24 hours. They're all making plans for next week. It's all right. I mean, some of the people die by suicide. They're probably out making plans for next. They're probably not like making restaurant reservations. All I'm saying, you can show a few who would off that number. That's all I'm saying. So

I'm just like, I'm getting so bored with the video at this point. There's a dude behind Julia trying to learn a juggle. I'm shouting tips at him. Yeah. So, but Ray's like, you know, I've been reading the Bible for 40 years now. And I'm like, wow, you were a very slow reader. He goes, there's no mistakes in it. And I'm like, we were just talking about Jesus's last words

on the cross. Are you sure we're going with no mistakes? He says, you trust all these people who tell you you are a monkey. So now why not trust a these people who tell you you're a monkey. So now why not trust a made up guy who says you're magical. And then he does, I think probably the weirdest got you in the whole video where he does the basically what the cows drink trick with shop and stop. Oh my God.

Yes. He's asking, so this is the bit. And of course, the audience has heard some variation of this. He says, spell shop and then they'll go SHRP. And he's like, what do you do when you come to a green light? And people say, stop, but it's a green light. So you go when you come to a green light, get it? That is his example of fallibility.

Yes. So now all we have to do is get right comfort to say toast five times and then ask us what we get put in a toaster. And he'll have to accept that he's wrong about God. All right, yeah, clearly. Right, right. Well, that's just the thing. If someone had said, go, would he stop believing in God? He's, he's, she fuck coming in.

He's asking if he's like, are you going to think about the conversation we had today? And they're like, yeah, man, for the rest of my god damn life. Oh God. Is this why he says like, yeah, have you thought about this stuff? And the guy says, yeah, my brother told my brother is like you is basically saying, yeah, my brother's also an asshole, just like you. So I have to think about this stuff a lot. It comes up weirdly often. Yes, I think about this all the time, right? There are other people like you out there, unfortunately. Yeah. Right. Right. And then the other professor with the bad to pay cuts in and it race as like, Hey, is it possible that you're wrong about God's existence? And the professor is

like, Yes, how about you? And race like, no, I'm like, I can't believe you get that. The fucking movie. Oh, okay. Okay. I guess that's okay. But he's like, but he's like, but I know God personally, that would be like asking if your wife exists and I'm like, no, but I can prove to a doubtful skeptical person that my wife exists. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I know in fact, it's the same, it's the same with God, you know, God also does for Ray that thing with the ice cube and the salescuff. So Ray also knows I got his death. All right. Okay. All right. Yeah. Now that makes that. So right also know that God is definitely yeah, all right, okay, all right, yeah No, that makes sense March what's that you're not you're not married so you just don't know you just you don't get to know

It's not a single person so and then it's one of those sex life things only for Mary Don't call me on my sex jokes. He'd have got no follow it But it's when you It's when you. It's not yes and it's yes, full stop for me. It's yes, full stop. That's how the joke works. And as though I needed to love Gail more, we cut back to Gail and she goes, I generally don't engage creationists because it's not good for my blood pressure.

I'm like, Gail, you had me looking like you just smelled shit. She's the best. And then we get Gail basically saying, you know, I think the problem with people like you that don't accept evolution is that you lack imagination. Yes. And I'm like, that's a really nice way of putting it. No, she's absolutely right. They even eat other people to invent their imaginary friends for them. They can't even. Right. Right. Yeah. And then we get what I can

only describe as a I ain't no fish montage. The entire closing montage is like a strong emphasis that he's wrong. And he's oblivious to that. Like he doesn't know that he's showing us people proving him. Look, because he keeps showingious to that. Like he doesn't know that he's showing us people proving him. Look, because he keeps showing these headlines that are like, you know, well, scientists looked into it and Ray Comfort's wrong. And he's like, yeah, that sounds kind of silly, doesn't it? Yeah. Why does he have a montage of him checking the internet being like, all right, let's see if I'm still wrong.

Fuck. Do these articles change? It's weird how many of the articles that he throws up are British sources because like, I guess American news doesn't reliably disagree with Ray Comfort, which is a worry. Right. Unfortunately. He tells one of them, he's like, don't put your trust in fallible man. Trust the infallible person that man told you about, um, you don't know

him. He's from Canada. And then he pitches us on his evidence study Bible. And normally I would just end the, the review before we get to this. But it's so funny. He keeps putting like he keeps flipping through it. And there are mases and connect the dots and shit like that in his study Bible. Yeah. there's a section about optical illusions. Yes, the Bible. It is study Bible. It was just like stare at these dots, now look at this area. Yep.

God. I have no idea what could possibly be happening there, but that's what they show. I wrote in my notes, I'm like, damn it. Now we probably have to do this one after we get done with David. I, you know. And also, he's like, and don't you think that my evidence study Bible doesn't call Damn it. Now we probably have to do this one after we get done with David Ike, you know. And also he's like, he's like, and don't you think that my evidence study Bible doesn't call out Mormons and J. Dubs and Catholics on all their bullshit? Cause here's a section on that. It is fun. The way you're talking the moments in the J. Dubs. That's, that's fun. That is fun.

Yeah. The audio at that moment is like the book also tells you about cults and we see Mormons Catholic Jewish people. Yes, but it is. Yep. Yep. So, yes, so that's our assignment. I guess we got homework from this one, Lucky Us. And while that's going to do it for our review of Evolution versus God, that's not going to do it for the episode just yet because we still need to lay another trap for ourselves

next. We so tell us he's what's on deck. Oh, we're going to be watching Christian Saturday night live. Oh, good. Fire by night. The truth about rock. I assume rock and roll music or stones. One of the other or crack.

Yeah. Okay. Either way, it's worth getting excited about. So with that, to look forward to, we're going to bring episode 406 to a merciful close. Once again, a huge thanks to Marsh for his indefatigable patience. Be sure to check the show notes for links to more of his stuff. And perhaps even huge or thanks to all the Patreon donors to help make the show go. If you'd like to count yourself among their ranks, you can make a per episode donation

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Our theme song was written and performed by Ryan Slotting, a movable drafts on Mars. All the other music was written and performed by our audio engineer Morton Clark and was used with permission. Thanks again for giving us a tour of your life this week for Heathen Wright, Neil Abbas, the common illusions from Mr. Workhard to earn another chunk next week until then. We'll leave you with a breakfast club close. After seeing this video, the God of the Universe went on to give Rey Comfort a really big

kidney stone. I'm fucking up the argument this bad. That really is. Noah went on to leave the accent to E-Life forever after. I thought you were great. You were good. I was good. Ray Comfort went on to have 12 years

to make this bullshit look better and this is still the best he came up with. This was his second effort. I seriously, I tried to do Ray Comfort like twice today and both times I was like give it up. I started to do like one noise and I was like, how? No. I don't have it. I don't have it. If you throw in like a little sharks in the water, you can get into an antipodian sort of accent. That's what I was talking about.

I was finding it like I had to like. Shark. I had to write down like what I was gonna say and then I would have to reword it. I'm like, no, I need more R's. I need more soft R's for this to sound rants. Oh yeah, the R's are like the sand for the walking accent. Like they look like.

Yeah, right. Yeah, sand. Yeah, I came in on four on my recording. I said four, five, but I forgot to hit record until four, but I've got four and five. So you should be able to see. It's not like you got four and five. It should be all right.

It was the last second he said recording. I was like, yeah, I was going to be recording. And literally as you get to three, I was like was like oh shit. I need to do that as well Otherwise this doesn't go so well. Yeah, right cuz it'd be the worst time to fuck it up to cuz I'm doing the centcaster And I will all it most always forget To download the ship before everybody jumps off Right, I'll try and remember to tell you yeah, yeah, all right Here we go.

Ray on, give it a give it a, get my, get my ray guy in here. That's good. That's right. I was, I was, I was a little nervous, but I'm getting a little more Ray comfortable with it as we go. So nailed it. Interest official one. I'm so nervous about having to do Ray comfort.

I'm so glad to have that on. All right. He was good. He was good. He was good. It was solid stuff. Thank you. Thank you. I'm just talking like him all night last night.

Try and listen to nuts. Listen to this like you said, give it. He like, I'm going to say 2000 times a lot, a lot of give it. It's all right. Here we go. Interest. The preceding podcast was a production of Puzzle and a thunderstorm LLC copyright 2023 all rights reserved.

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