God Awful Movies - 409: The Flight That Disappeared

Episode Date: June 20, 2023

This week, Marsh joins us for an atheist review of The Flight That Disappeared. It's the story of Hollywood's very slow and ambling path towards discovering the importance of pacing. --- This episode is sponsored by BetterHelp. Give online therapy a try at betterhelp.com/awful and get on your way to being your best self. If you’d like to make a per episode donation and get monthly bonus episodes, please check us out on Patreon: http://patreon.com/godawful Get tickets to QED here: https://qedcon.org/ Check out more from Marsh on Be Reasonable and Skeptics with a K Check out our other shows, The Scathing Atheist, The Skepticrat, Citation Needed, and D&D Minus. Our theme music is written and performed by Ryan Slotnick of Evil Giraffes on Mars. If you’d like to hear more, check out their Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/EvilGiraffesOnMars/?fref=ts All our other music was written and performed by Morgan Clarke. To hear more from him, check him out here: https://www.morganclarkemusic.com/

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We do. And unfortunately, we're going to be without Eli again this week, but in his stead, we're happy to welcome back a host of B reasonable co-host of skeptics with the K project director for the good thinking society itself. We're claimed skeptic of the year for several years and running Michael Marshall Marsh. Welcome back. Hey, thanks. Loving to be here, guys. Always great, as I say, to be on this show.

I do feel like you've got through the introduction a little quicker than you needed to. I think what we'll learn today is that introduction should take a really, really long time before anything happens. You should have just me ended around by yourself. And then in about 10 minutes, introduce Heath, you know, slowly, and listen to what's happening. Yeah, so we have to be able add to the margins of this intro somehow. So what we need is this intro needs to be in a bigger font. That would help.

So tell us, Heath, what will we be breaking down today? We watched the flight that disappeared. It's the story of God taking an ethical stance about nuclear weapons in the world in 1961. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no fall back bit happy. You're right. Yeah. Literally the year of the Cuban Missile Crisis. And Marsh, how bad was this movie? Well, if you love to watch black and white interventions by mystical forces showing the impact a single life can have on society, but for some reason you need to see that set it 30,000 feet, you will love this movie. It's essentially, it's a wonderful flight. That's what they filmed. It is. Yeah, let me, let me just say as a person who loves old black and white movies, I can really see why most people don't know. Like after watching this, I get it. I understand

it. So there's anything you guys want to nominate this one for being the best of you in the worst time? Oh, I would. And speaking of, you know, old black and white movies, the time of airplanes in 1961. Best, best airplanes. The traveling and airplanes in 1961 looked amazing. Oh, yeah. Everybody's having a great time. They're taking bomb hits together.

They're on like, he's chairs with diamonds. There's a fucking bar lounge in the back of the floor. A full eight percent of the plane appears to be a bar. It's incredible. It's like 14 people on the whole plane. It looks delightful.

Yeah, it does. It does. Even with all the damn cigarettes being smoked on it. Yeah. No, but so and that's honestly that's where a lot of the doldrums of this movie come from, right? It's because in 1961, I guess there was a certain amount of your airplane movie that you could fill with like, huh? On an airplane. It's probably like this, right? It's because in 1961, I guess there was a certain amount of your airplane movie that you could fill with like, huh?

On an airplane, it's probably like this, right? So I'm going to go with best worst big idea. So one of the characters in this movie, and the first act we established that he has a big idea that the scientists won't take seriously, and they build it up to the point where you're getting kind of excited to hear what this big idea is. And then we get the reveal in Act 2. They build it up to the point where you're getting kind of excited to hear what this big idea is. And then we get the reveal and act to and, uh, when it's the best worst is all I'm going to say about it right now.

Oh, you're talking about Walter's biggest. Yes, yes, it makes no sense. We'll get to it. It's incredible. But Nana's and it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's quite similar. It's the best worst tension resolution for this because we ramp up tension in this film and it takes a long time to get to where we're going. And then as we're at the stakes, you know, we

have a whole thing of like, you know, we're going to have to kill you for what you're about to do unless we don't actually we just don't and they just try to do that. That's another guy. You're going to destroy the entire world unless you throw away a single piece of paper. And then it's fine. It's like they just punctured the tension in the most difficult people. Right, right. All right, well, we've got a lot of vamping to do on the other side of the break.

So we're going to take a minute to warm up back in a flash with all the procedural doldrums of the flight that disappeared. Oh, hey, he's what's with the ice of yourself? No, no, just a isn't down after my workout. Oh, hey, he's, what's with the ice? Have you hurt yourself? No, no, just, uh, I stand down after my workout. Oh, your workout? Yeah, yeah, my workout. I decided to get a little more active this year, you know. Now I get any younger, right? So I decided to go and play a little hockey at the community rank. So wait, your idea and how to get in shape in your 40s was to play a full contact spot

that takes place on a sheet of ice. On a sheet of ice? Yes, yes. Heath, if you wanna get in shape, why not just try Fitbot? Oh, what's Fitbot? Fitbot is an app that creates custom workouts based on your personal goals, experiences,

available equipment, and more. And the workouts improve as you improve so it can keep you challenged and keep your workouts effective over time. I don't know, because with hockey, I get to buy an absurdly expensive bunch of padding and equipment. It's so ungainly and barely fits in my trunk. I love all of that. Does FitBod have that? No, it doesn't. It works with what you have and tell us a personalized workout so you can keep your workouts going even when you travel I've been using FitBud for a while now and as you know, I can damn near box jump as high as I could in my 20s

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Yeah, it's been three weeks. I'm starting to think the ice isn't helping. So yeah, we will do fitbot. All right, guys, welcome to the right as room meeting for our next Metro Goldwyn Maya production. Great to be here. We're all smoking cigarettes. We are. So, what kind of movie are we making boss? Well, it's not a whitewash, but now glorification is suburban family life,

and it's not an overly sexualized drama that only manages to get distribution with a biblical tie-in, and it's 1961, so that only leaves one other kind of movie, doesn't it? Heavy-handed metaphor about the dangers of nuclear weapons. Of nuclear weapons, exactly. So who has a plot for me? Uh, yeah, yeah, I got one. So, okay, there's a plane, right? And it's on a flight, there, plane.

Uh-huh. Uh-huh, yeah. So that, okay, honestly, that's as far as I got. I feel that's probably far enough. That's probably far. I think it's good. Guys, no, no, that'll get us through the first 43 minutes. Sure. But what is what's going to carry us over the finish line here? Yeah. All right. All right. So, uh, what if the plane, what have it got like, uh, uh, uh, abducted by aliens? Tell them put it to the future. Oh, well, I was going to say sucked up to heaven, but I feel like we can make all three work, right?

Hey, you know what I always say? With it up here, but you, anything can be applied. Oh, and maybe we could be more progressive since it's just barely not the fifties anymore. What do you have in mind? How about maybe the mathematician could be a lady? A name who knows numbers?

You know what? It's so crazy it just might work. I don't know, can the male character still refer to her as honey, sweetheart, and deer? Oh, ex-glucifully. All right, then I'm mind-bore. Bully, this is gonna be a great movie. We still have lead in all our paint.

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like the twists as it were, I've spoiled the plot. Not soon into the film, like even just the music. Yeah, that's what happens. Okay. That's fine. Yeah. I'm like, Oh, this is haunted alien music. I bet this is a haunted alien movie. This is a bad Christian movie. Yeah. It's all spoiled now. Yeah. It's okay. So we opened it the LA International Airport. We know this because the bucket camera points at a sign that says LA International Airport. They were still learning there where they were feeling their way in 1961. Yeah. We also know it's 1961 immediately because the announcer apparently

over a PA that's being projected like out onto the tarmac is like, everyone, you know, and you're a tuxedo's in ballgowns that's out there on the tarmac. You can board now, grab your martinis. You can take it right on board. Yeah. Don't worry about it. Yeah. If you got a bomb, give it to the valet. It's so crazy. They were all just milling around out there having a party. Yeah. It's so weird. Could you just do that? Could you just like hang around on the runway of the airports just before you go? Like, because they do the boarding call, but that just means to board to actually walk onto the plane. Like last call to step onto the plane, not for any of the kind of checker and thing, I had no idea that's how that used to

work. It seems wild to me. Yeah, honestly, given how aggressively people push towards the jet way when it's like still two numbers away from their number, I get it, right? Like I understand that. Yeah, I like that. But this, yeah, this is before the days of those fancy jet ways and shit. Yeah. I think we should go back to this because I hate the people that do that. I feel like it should be like at the beginning of a boating race, there's like an area where all the boats have to like mill around and like try to

time their start just right. But you have to keep moving and it's like a strategy thing. Oh, all right. All right. Yeah. Yeah. There you go. So okay. So we're going to watch everybody get on their on the plane. This was back when you wore like a fancy suit and tie to either you got dressed up to go on a plane or that's just how everyone dressed, everywhere all the fucking time, I don't know. Right, yeah. We spend a lot of time on the admin of the seating plan.

Apparently that was a really important thing for us to, as the viewers, to fully understand about this. And I wonder if that's because, as you say, just showing a plane was interesting enough, maybe this film was like part-sponsored by an airline as a way of sort of educating people on what the process of getting on board a plane is. Like, you know, how you see the safety demonstration videos. It's like, they've just tried to incorporate that into this movie. Oh, interesting. Well, right, because clearly in 1961,

people had a lot of fucking trouble finding 10 a all by their God damn cell. He needed directions to get to seat 10 to seat 10. I mean, I assume there was numbers, but even though you can just count, you can see all of the seat all. Sure. Just look for the only space that is likely to be in roll 10 because everyone else is sat down. That would be reasonable, but the numbering system where the seat that he gets into is in fact, row 10 is insane. Yeah. No, you're right. There are maybe 10 rows, but he's not in the 10th one from any direction. No, he's not. They're counting from the outside in or from the inside. Yeah, I had no idea. No, you're, you're correct on that. But yeah,

and we watched that several times, right? We first we watched this guy who I had down as angry birthday magician. He's going to turn out to be a scientist. He's he's Oppenheimer, I guess. Yeah. He's he's Karl Morris, but the flight attendant who says his name as he walks on said like Karl Mars. And I heard Karl Marx and I was like, okay, okay, he's evil because he's got to go T and they hate they hate, they hate

socialism. That's what they're going to go with. Yeah, he's the Oppenheimer character. We're going to learn it in a second. Yeah, we'll find out that he's Karl Morris, the Karl Morris, Dr. Karl Morris, the Karl Morris, Karl Morris, because everyone seems to know who this fucking person is. Karl fucking Morris. They get excited.

So, and he gets on the plane and he's like, Oh, and oh, by the way, it's marshal sitting next to me and the lady's like the flight attendants, like, no, we can arrange that. And he's like, but don't though, I thought that was his wife. Yes. Yeah. It's way funnier if it's his wife. It turns out that it's his co-worker. She also, she asked to see his ticket, but she doesn't like actually look at it or read it. So I just need to know that he had something ticket shaped. And that was apparently no security check to get on the plane.

I mean, nobody would choose to sit in 10 a. Yeah. That's a guess. Also, it is, it seems very strange to me. And we will find out why this is, but it's at this point, it seems strange to me that as people getting on the plane, everybody turned left to fill the entire plane, but there was clearly another half of the plane that wasn't seated. I was like, what is going on with this geometric oddity of a plane?

And we will find out is because half of the plane is dedicated to a lounge bar. We learn it's a disco tech. Yeah, it's basically an old timey pianist there on a grand piano. There's a singer, there's a jazz band going on. Beanbag chairs strewn about. There's a hookah in the middle. There's a single, there's a jazz band going on. Being bagged chairs strewn about, there's a hookah in the middle. It's a lot. Yeah, but it's completely reserved for named characters, interestingly enough, which is a weird one to explain on the ticket. But yeah, and then so we, we watched Dr. Carl Morris get on the plane, then we watched Tom get

on the plane. Tom is a dashing young man who is being seated next to a stunning young woman, right? This is a Marsha. So they sit down, they're going to be major characters. We established that. And then the pilot shows up after all the passengers are seated, which seems totally inefficient to me, right? Yeah, he just shows up like at the dollar of the plane to be clear. It's not like he shows up on camera. He walks up the stairs to get on the plane after everyone else. Yeah. No, sorry. I just finished the martini glass behind him. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Fly it. Yeah. 1961. This is legal. All right. Where am I going? Also, I have a question. Are there normally three pilots on airplanes or was that like an old timey thing?

I think there's no because they have three. Yes. Yeah. I think the other guy's the navigator. I was saying he navigator. I think yeah. Oh, the guy who maps out the plane flight path. Yeah. That's, that's the guy. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. So, so he gets it to the cockpit and there's the co-pilot in the navigator. And we have to establish, first of all, Hank Scott jokes, Hank is the pilot, right? He's, he comes in. He's got, he's got material. He's got his type five. But also we need to establish that this is a propeller plane and we're right on the cusp of them moving to jet

planes. They're going to spend so much time on that point that it's just going to baffle you and tonight as you go to sleep, why the fuck it never factors into the movie in any meaningful way, right? No, because there is a moment where it could factor in, because they're like, oh, at this altitude, only a jet engine could work. But then they go above the altitude and a jet engine wouldn't work there. So they just need to include that.

They did not need to reference it. No, nothing to do with anything. Speaking of which, the co-pilot at this point goes, I'm going to get married soon as my personality and I'm really going to sure is, man. And hangs like, ladies, be ladies, lady, right? Right? Here's my side five. I'm going to say right for the next four hours, the whole flight.

There's a great bit where he goes, you know, shall we have a go chaps? And I wrote my notes, Hey, Marce, that was him doing a British accent. I can see how you might not have noticed on your own. Sorry. So the plane takes off. We watch this pilot, this poor guy is kind of randomly deciding which levers to push for plane takes off. Surprisingly little conviction, right? He's like the guy in Captain Phillips who takes over the ship and starts pushing buttons

to see which one makes it go. He kind of does that for a minute. And then we see the fucking no smoking light turn off on the airplane. Yeah, that's, I don't know what again, they need to fix on that. And I think this is because this is the advert for the airplane. This is an advert for the plane line. It's like, yeah, once we're in the air, you can smoke to your heart's content. Don't worry about that, guys. Come on. We'll sort you right out. We can hook you up to some stuff. Do you want weeds?

Do you want to dope? We can get you some stuff as well. We've got a guy up here. Well, we are responsible about it. There's no smoking right at the beginning while people are deconstructing their elaborate formal wear and taking it apart because it's all like 12 to 13 pieces of clothing each. Right. But then you can smoke back in the day.

International waters also, like the borders of international waters started above a certain altitude as well. Right. I know. I know. I think we've seen it. Yeah. International fluid.

So yeah. So and we meet Joan. She's one of the flight attendants. I never caught the other ones name. She is the fiance of the co-pilot though, right? I don't think I ever got her name. Yeah. I don't think she needs a name because she's going to be married soon. So look, she's not going to use that. Yeah, I don't think she ever got her name either.

Right. Well, that's true. She's Mrs. Jack co-pilot. Yeah. So, and we'll speak in the witch. So this is where Joan gets on the microphone and she's like, we really couldn't think of a way to emphasize the names of all the various characters. So I'm just going to say them. The pilot is Hank, the co-pilot is Jack. I'm Joan. Yeah, and two ladies one of the Allison Bechtel. I think as she basically gives the full resume of the flight crew at this point. She talks for so long and I thought why are we watching this? I don't even pay attention to this one when when they do. When I'm on a flight and they tell me all this stuff, I don't pay attention.

Right. And then as I'm writing a bit about, like, wow, are they shoe-horning in these character's names, we see Tom turn to Marsha and say, hi, I'm Tom and she says, I'm Marsha and I'm like, oh, come on. I did like the lack of any kind of safety briefing. I wanted to kind of, and in the event of an engine failure, emergency cigarettes will descend from the police.

They should have that. Yeah, honestly, like if ever there's smoke, if you got them, like at that point, come on. Yeah, that's fair. And you got them. So, but we meet Tom. Now, Marsha recognizes his name. His, his name is Tom Endicott. She goes, I've heard those syllables before, Endicott, are you in business? That's an exact quote. What? And he's like, yes, I'm in the commerce's shurram. What?

That mean? I truck barter exchange from time to time. I doubt it. I guess. But he explains that he's the lobbyist headed to DC to talk to important politicians about very important things. And so she lights the cigarette on an airplane. I just it's so fucking weird. It's so hard to get my adder. Also, she appears to be wearing a string of pearls around her neck, but they seem to be like, open at one end, like it's

like it's late night at the fancy event and the guys were in their ball time on the building, like she did that with her poles. That's classy. Like Tony Bennett, right? Yeah, it looks great. It works slightly less well when it's a pole necklace just string the poles. Yeah. So they talk about him for a minute and then he's like, okay, lady person, what about you? And she's like, I'm Marsha cut.

Yes, it's incredible. It's incredible. It's incredible. We don't you, Marsha. We don't care. Cut away. So yeah, so then Joan goes through and checks on every sixth passenger. And this is not the last time that we will watch one of these flight attendants go all the way down the aisle, right?

Like we could have just had her go like, I can I get you anything. How about you? Okay, we get it. She's making her checks. No, all the way down the fucking plane. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is as well as what we see the pilot stop to radio into the tower. Okay. And I think what he says is transgo 60 over brisket 570 20, IFR estimate Denver. I thought, yeah, don't let the actors addley blinds when they're suffering from aphasia. They just come out with stuff. You okay? You smell toast, buddy. This is why we have three of us.

So, yeah, so we check it on the flight attendance. This is where we learn that the other one is getting, I just, I have her as fiancee, stewardess, Jesus, sexist fucking name I've ever given a character in my notes before, but they have a conversation her and Joan about how Joan doesn't want to get no husband, darn it. And then the fiance brings coffee to the cockpit, right? In open mugs, like just regular coffee mugs. Yeah.

Guys, there's like an instrument panel right there. There's just hot coffee flying all over the place. Get lit, get to go cups with lit. Don't put it in martini glasses. It's insane. And this is so we established, as you say, so the cold pilot is getting married to one of the flight attendants. We found out that the pilot is the best man. I thought this all seems very small and insati-a and like incestuous. And like we're We're going to find out that the guy who waves the plane in on the airport one way is also going to be conducting the ceremony. He's using those little patterns towards the bride of the position.

You can come because it's tough. Hey, are you available for the wedding night? I feel like you could be used to your wedding. Into the spot, right? I've had sex with a lady. There's also this great moment here where she tries to blow the co-pilot a kiss, but the pilot stops her like he dives between the co-pilot and the kiss she's blowing in because that would be inappropriate.

It's so weird because the tone shifts so much. He's like laughing and joking. He's like, and then he's like, stop blowing him the kiss on my plate. You goddamn dirty. Halt. Anyway, I'm a pilot. I'm going to be enjoying this. Okay. I guess you're right. Right. Man, you like switched a bunch of switches and you move the throughout. You can't commit to physical bits like this. We're not doing scantillality. Relax. Oh, there's a rope around you. You got roped. You got lassads. Don't do that.

Oh, you got, there's a rope around you. You got roped. You got last. Oh, don't do that. So, okay. So now it's time for them to serve lunch aboard the, uh, the plane with 15 minutes in. This is just playing us. Why do you keep on just included? Right.

No, I wrote my notes. I'm like, we're 12 minutes in and the closest. We've come to a plot point to serving lunch. Now, I feel like they cut a good chunk where it was just like pretzel. That's a little warm cloth. serving watch. Now, I feel like they cut a good chunk where it was just like pretzel. Pretzel. Yeah. Little warm cloths. John a little warm clothiness.

So now they didn't know those fancy flip down trays back in 1961. No, no, not at all. They had the little, the little tables that we used to have microwave dinners on when I was a kid when you wanted to watch TV, right? The little, but I got so much leg room. They have a lot of leg room. I kind of want to go back to that 100%. He's absolutely right. This is the perfect era of flying huge, so much space. Oh, yeah.

Also, I just want to circle back to this pilot situation really quick because they mentioned something crazy. The main pilot guy is like, let me, let, Tuts, about this guy you're marrying. He's a co-pilot. He doesn't make any money. Are they not both pilots? I feel like they're just both pilots. Right.

Yeah, because they don't study for core pilot school. No, they're just a second pilot, so that they can take turns piloting, I assume. In case one of them is being... Because the thing is, otherwise, why would you have a core pilot if not to be a full-fledged pilot should be first pilot becoming capacitated? Ah, no, this plane's going to have to crash, because we only had a core pilot on board. Right, yeah, no, he only turns left and goes, ah, could somebody go in the tunnel and say, is there a pilot on the flight? I just read the gauges. Is anybody a pilot in the back? You're not a pilot.

We have somebody who can go, that'd be like having co-doctors and one of them doesn't know all the medicine because he's just like a lower level. Like, oh, is a D student doctor? You get to be a co-doctor? That's terrifying. But this movie clearly seems to think

that there's like a pair of pilot kind of a thing of relationship that's going on here. And then, and I guess they think that the navigator gets promoted to co-pilot if the pilot dies or so. I have no idea. Yeah. It's just a purely dead man's shoes situation. Yeah. It's like a really weird side hierarchy. Maybe because there weren't that many airplanes, like operational at the time. So maybe there just weren't many opportunities to be a pilot. So they did, you did have to wait

till a different pilot died, because there was so limited in number to be a pilot. So they did, you did have to wait till a different pilot died because there was so limited in number of planes. That's what it was being. Yeah. So, okay. So, yeah. So we watched them serve lunch. We watched the flight attendant serve lunch

for a little while. That's exciting. They didn't have cart technology in 1961 either. So they're just like bringing out individual trays one at a time. Yeah, but there's only 10 people also in the flight. So that's why they take time. Right. They can just like reach everybody individual trays one at a time. Yeah, but there's only 10 people are still in the fights That's right. I think it's like weach everybody. Yeah, really. Yeah. So okay, and then we cut over to Dr. Carl Morris And the guy next to him on the plane says hey, do you mind if I smoke and I'm like they're serving lunch you fucking jackass

Bruce, but yeah, he's like, no, I don't care And he's like hey, weren't you into paper? Can you say your name again in case the audience hasn't caught it yet? Right. And this is where we learn that he's the Oppenheimer analog, right? He's the guy who came up with the idea for the next nuclear or like the next bomb beyond nuclear, right? The, the, the, the I bomb.

But I feel like Oppenheimer wasn't well famous until after the bomb went off, right? It wasn't like he could have got he couldn't get on a plane anywhere because everyone knew him. Like, was he that biggest celebrity? Oppenheimer? Beforehand? Yeah, I don't think so. Up to wait and tell no one's movie people taking selfies with him and she's like, by the way, I am a big fan of that giant post nuclear bomb that you're talking about. I think that's a great idea. I think we should blow up more shit.

The guy sat next to, he's so cherry. And he's like, yeah, no, I'm looking forward to the nuclear war. You know, I think we're going to good team this year. I think I think we can work in that pretty well. I reckon we can go fall. You have become death, right? Disorder world. Fucking yellow, man.

Totally. And then we cut over to this other couple. And they noticed that the famous Dr. Karl Morris is on the plane as well, right? This is Walter and Helen. And Walter thinks he should tell Dr. Morris about his mysterious big idea that the scientific community keeps laughing at him for. Right.

Yeah. Okay. It sounded like they were setting up him as like a whistleblower about something, right? And then like, yeah, the government and his wife were gaslighting him and like trying to say he was crazy, but he's not. But then he is though. He is. He's just crazy.

Yeah. And they also, the introduced up the wife is blind. And I don't but then he is though. He is. He's just crazy. Yeah. And they also, the introduced that the wife is blind. And I don't think the actor's blind. I think I think she's a sighted actor as best as I could tell. So it seems a weird addition in there. And I thought, what, they're really just setting up the dominoes here of the different characters

we've got on board. And I thought, this is going to be some sort of really intricate, almost like a kind of an agatha Christine murder on the Ornette Express. And I think where all of their different personalities come together to form the plot and no, no, no, no, she can't see is not important to the fact that he's crazy is not that important. Yeah, the cherry guy said it's to Oppenheimer doesn't come up again basically. No, I was sure the blind thing was at least going to be a metaphor for something or what I first thought is exactly what you said. It was going to like hook into the plot somehow.

Yeah. I think this actor was just like, I've made a choice. I'm blind and they were like, all right. Well, that counts. Okay. Things. Why, why are you doing that? Yeah.

There are no small roles, just small actors. Yeah. Right. Right. Fine. And I have to point out a line to from her husband real quick. He goes, he's noticing Dr. Karl Morrison. He's like, honey, Dr. Carl Morrison's here. He looks just like his picture. So now, first of all, that's what pictures do, right? That's just how that thing works.

And secondly, he looks like his picture seems like an inconsiderate thing to say to a blind woman. I don't know if it is. It just seems like, like, what reference are you really giving her there? I'm using vision now. Anybody else? If everyone hands out, if you're using vision, honey, honey, hands down. So, and then Helen's like, honey, you just need to calm down

and stop worrying about your brilliant mysterious idea. That's why we're taking this trip that we're both taking and would obviously know why we were both taking let me Expos it about it a little bit Jesus yeah, they weren't great at this she says they're going to Washington DC to settle down close to the soil and To God See it counts totally counts for the Man release here So he's like yeah, it's fine. Dr. Karl Morris would probably laugh at me

just like, oh, the rest, but when it happens, they won't be laughing. Teeheehee boaha, right? That's what I thought he was gonna have, he's gonna have had some sort of premonition or, you know, he's psychic. He can see the future something like that. And that's why he's like, oh, there's a bad thing coming.

But like, we'll find out, we're not too much. He wants the bad thing. Right. Is that what happens? The bad thing that I's like, oh, there's a bad thing coming. But like, we'll find out, I'm not too spoiled too much. He wants the bad thing. Is that what it happens? The bad thing that I would like to happen but I have no influence over. Yeah, no, right, no, you're right. It's like the super villain who just has hints that he wants to give world governments

about doing evil, like, oh, yeah, my evil plan is, I'm gonna like, fall on up the president and suggest you do a thing and he's gonna say, no, no, no, no, okay, okay. So outsourcing is evil, no, no,'s gonna say, no, I'm gonna go up and go, okay, okay. So outsourcing is evil ability, little bit, yeah. The movies are sitting here pump faking by accident at all different plots, but they don't even realize they're doing it.

It really is. And then nothing. Yeah, no, right, we're still just serving fucking lunch. We cut back to Tom and Marsha right now. Tom is creepily staring at Marsha as she eats because she got served before him. And he has this great line. He turns to her, watches her eat for a solid six seconds

and goes hungry. As the heat was called upon to her, I also eat food when I'm hungry. You have to ask a question that has a positive answer. And you know that at that point, yes, would be, yes, you're hungry. I can see. I have seen. Of, you're hungry. I guess I have. Of course, he's hungry.

That's why she thought, yeah, I bet this guy is also one of the men who see a woman sitting with headphones on. So they ask him to take the headphones off so they can then ask him what we listened to when you had the headphones on. This is the number of death he definitely did. Yes, right. God. Yeah.

The worst headphones eating book shut the fuck up on an airplane. That's what he does. I does not want to talk to you. So, yeah, so he flirts his way into the conversation. He asks if she, he asks if she's married, but he doesn't such a weird way. He says, so are you one of those married ladies that refuses to wear a ring? Yeah. You're one of those feminists who won't wear the fucking ear tag? Probably.

It was very much, kind of tell me, are you on or can I call dibs? Right, yeah. Which reminded me of something that someone once said to Dr. Alice, who's a, who's your call host and skeptics, okay, when she was doing an event with Merzix on Skeptics,

a guy came up to her and said, are you mics? And she's like, what? Are you mics? As a mic partner, she said, no, he said, okay, are you anyone's? Oh, yikes, that was like an apostrophe S for possessive possessive post-reasonry on a human being.

I didn't even understand. Fuck. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that was a phone one. Am I the parole of microphones? What are you saying? No, do you belong to a person called Michael? Do you belong to somebody else? Amazing.

Oh, wow. Well, and Marsha for her part is like, hey, could we talk about something other than my vagina because I don't want to talk about that. And she's like, oh, well, I thought that's what I thought marriage was what all the dames wanted to talk about, right? And she's like, oh, look, there's food back in my mouth. It's impossible to keep talking to each other.

And this is where like she basically says that, you know, she's against the social concept of marriage. Like I shouldn't, she doesn't like to label label things, she not enjoying this conversation, but then he offers her a drink and she's right back on board and I thought against social concept of marriage doesn't like to label things alcohol gets her right back on board. If after this he challenges it to a game where she gets way too competitive, I'm just gonna assume she's heath in a wig this entire time. Yeah, really. Okay. Really. Yeah. That's accurate. I have no defense. I was about to try to be like, I will argue back. I want to make a say. No, nothing. I do

sound like that. I don't wear wigs. I don't wear wigs. I don't have a mole. They're fuck I do. So meanwhile, in the cockpit, they need to increase their altitude to avoid a storm. Now you might think, Noah, why are you telling us such an inane detail? Are you just trying to emphasize how big all this movie is? No, that's the plot. That is the entire plot. Yeah. The entire plot of this movie is going to be they need to increase their altitude to avoid

a storm. Okay. That is the inciting fucking incident. It is. It is, but then they go higher and it gets darker. So they need to fly higher when night is a party. Right, right. Did they use to think you got darker above the clouds?

Is that what they thought would have? If you ever seen pictures about a space, it's black, dark, dark. Marsha, come on. The closer you get to the firmament, the less light of the bottom of the sun is on the other. I'll be flat. Damn. Fuck. So then we cut to Tom and Marsha in the lounge. Now all of us have this, because we have already mentioned it in the record, but on our

notes at this point, this is where we first realized that this plane has a fucking lounge in the back. Yeah. There's a bomb in the sky. That's amazing. That's so fucking cool. Yeah, no shit. I guess back then you probably couldn't get more than 18 people on a plane at a time or so yet do something with the space. I guess or maybe there's just some shit they made up for the movie. I don't know. But yeah, so they're

back in the lounge having a drink. I don't know where they got the drink because there's no bar tender, right? It's just the two of them. It's just it's just an open bar. You just go back there and there's just bottles everywhere and you're like, yeah, it's great. Just when I was in the mood for, oh, there's a Dave and Buster's even further back. Let's go play cruising USA. Let's get super competitive about it. Yeah. So, so there's sitting in the, in the lounge in Tom's going like, boy, I tell you what, I sure wish I had someone to have sex with when I got to Washington DC. How about you? Do you wish that? Yeah, it's creepy. He is very creepy. But then Marcia says, you know, I know you're full of shit. You're no lobbyist. And he's like, oh, you caught

me in my lie. His lie is that he's a lobbyist. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha I thought he was trying to do a lucky slightly sleazy kind of lie in there, but I don't know why, because we find out that he's like a rocket engineer, which he's not knows. But if he's lying because he doesn't want to admit to being a rocket engineer, is that because he thinks that's a bad job to be doing? Or is it because he thinks it's security clearance, essentially, he can't blow his cover? Because if it's security clearance thing, he blows his cover instantly at this point. And immediately is now, you know, presumably a target for a security issue. Right. Yeah. Oh, it's definitely meant to be the security clearance thing, right? That's his like cover story because he's a government contractor scientist guy. Yeah. Oh, okay.

So I thought they were playing this like, you know, I like like, there's something about Mary. He's actually a pizza guy he wanted to lie and pretend he had a cooler job. That's what I got out of it the whole time. And I'm like, I feel like a missile designer is better than lobbyist. Okay. All right. He's trying to be secure and put that immediately.

He's like, check out this map of how we're gonna attack a run. You wanna see it? Slap, slap, slap. Ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha Yeah, but apparently she knows her fucking nuclear missile designer. She's like, no, I know Tom and Decat, you're a nuclear missile designer. I have your fucking rookie card and she's like, oh, wow, you have a rookie card. Weird. She's like, I'm a mathematician. And therefore I do nuclear stuff too.

And he's like, right, no, that makes sense. That is what new what mathematicians do these days, right? Right, but like she's a mathematician, but she can't figure out the topological riddle that is wearing a pearl necklace properly because the way if you see It seems to both be connected and not connected. I think it technically exists in the fourth dimension Like she's technically wearing a pearl version of a Klein bottle just around and in her neck somehow. Fucking Kala be out of shape. Marsha's notes descend into madness. Yeah, they do.

Like MC Escher pearls. What is happening? He's impossible. And this is also where we learn that she's a nuclear expert and Dr. Carl Morris is a nuclear expert and he's a missile expert. The Pentagon seems to be summoning all of their nuclear experts to Washington DC all at the same time. Right. And they say, she wouldn't as do you think you're going to the same meeting that we're going to? So well, how many secrets last minute urgent meetings do you think the Pentagon is having with nuclear rocket

engine? Right. Right. And he goes, you know, she's like, oh, wow, it seems like they're bringing all of the nuclear experts together. He goes, why does that bother you? And I'm like, why the fuck do you think it bothers her, dude? But then she says in a line that only a man could write for her, oh, feminine nervousness, I suppose. Exactly. Words in the moon.

Oh, it's so weird. What a phrase. Amazing. What do they think masculine nervousness is? Because they clearly think that's a real thing. Oh, it's, yeah, interesting. Interesting. That would be a great question to pose to him.

So, okay. So, and then she goes, like, do you ever feel guilty about building weapons of mass destruction? And he goes, no. What, do you? That's the level of nuance we get in this movie about the morals of this. Yeah. It's like, no, we're the good guys. What are you talking about?

We're talking about why we're not even the commies. All right. We're America. Well, apparently movies discovered act breaks sometime after 1961, but I have to interrupt somewhere. So we might as well be here, but we'll be back in a minute with even more of the flight that disappeared. Hey, Heath, we're you out there. Oh, it's just my latest delivery from typical meal delivery service.

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of your first box. All right, Noah, I'll do that. And probably get it delivered before I'm done unpacking this box. Right. Did they, did they wrap it each mushroom separately? Yup, separately. Did that with the grains of salt too? Really?

Can you help me get it, get it started? You have nails. This is your captain speaking. I'm here too. Yep. Yep. We've restarted using altitude of 35,000 feet. And it looks like smooth sailing from here.

We should be arriving. How are you talking? Let me know. Do you know where we're landing? It's not, I'm not, Dave said you have to let me talk sometimes. You can tell them, you can tell them to gate at the end. Okay, fine, fine.

So I'm sorry about this folks, that was my co-pilot. I'm a real pilot. No, you're not, you failed pilot school. I, yes, I passed co-pilot school. Right. But that's like, that's, you're reading numbers from a gauge. That's nothing. I, I usually get them right when I read them. Do you though? It has the word pilot in it. I've had to say. As, as I was saying, we will be arriving at Delos Airport around 8 30 PM local times time so sit back, relax and enjoy the flight. Sorry, right. Yes. And now a word from my co-pilot. Thank you, other pilots. Same word with pilots. We'll be arriving at Gays Bay 14. Fuck you.

Get off the mic. I hate you. You get off. Stop it. No, you're gonna break it. My god, let go of the mic. You take my, sorry. Sorry. I'm like, co-pilot and co-pilot and everything. And now they're fighting over a toy microphone that's plugged into nothing. It's plugged into nothing. Right in my eye. I was gay B14, by the way.

And we're back for more of this shit. When we last left off, I was offering to pay this goddamn movie to have a plot, and we're going to rejoin the action in the cockpit with a plane for some reason refuses to level off. Right. The pilot, the pilot lets the like shitty co-pilot do one thing and then immediately goes wrong. And he's like, I fucking javie pilot, the pilot lets the like shitty co-pilot do one thing and then it immediately goes wrong. I enjoy, he's like, I fucking JV pilot, you can touch the joystick once immediately. The altimeter goes crazy. And like the music is all weird, like a genie's appearing from a lamp.

So something, something, yeah, 100%. 100% in the magical universe is happening here. There are men kicks back in the being're being juped up by aliens all the way. Because yeah, when we do cut to this, it is the co-pilot who's on the control. Just like, it seems like you do an awful lot of piloting for a co-pilot there, Hank. I think you should really promote him, except your role here. You're the co-pilot, you're the co-pilot. At a certain point, yeah.

Yeah. But he's like, I said level it off. He's like, I did level it off. So the pilot tries. He can't get it to level off either. It keeps going up. I love it. He's like, let me do it.

Fuck, same. That Jesus. I press the joystick too, same. It's being married in a nutshell right there. So, so then, so. So they have to make this awkward call to air traffic control where they're like, our plane is in a tractor beam of some sort, right? So we awkward call to air traffic control where they're like our plane is in a tractor beam of some sort Right, so we cut down air traffic control and apparently there's a guy who gets the call and then there's a guy who needs to know the information

And there's another guy whose job is to carry the little post it note the 12 fucking feet between between these people. He's the only person. The guy gets the call. He writes something down on a little piece. He's been my hands into a dude who just basically like leans over and reaches out. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Alan, what did you, what did you say to him?

I can't read what he wrote. We're right here. We're right next to each other. And this way, like, there's a guy who walks in at this point. A guy called Garroth apparently walks in and he stands so close to his boss, but I think he's practically wearing his boss. He's that close, that really uncomfortable close to one of the for the office place.

Yeah, yeah. And he asked, Garrett, the big boss does after having read this note and, you know, gotten a very serious look at his face. He says to Garrett, he's like, Hey, is it possible for like a plane to refuse to level off and to just keep going up? And he's like, are you asking it possible for like a plane to refuse to level off and to just keep going up? And he's like, are you asking me if planes can reverse crash and he goes, yes, that is what I'm asking. He's like, no, that's not that's fucking nonsense. So they get on the radio with the pilot and they're like, are you still going up?

Yeah, okay. So here's what you want to do. Try to correct it. And the pilot's like, oh, cool. You mean go down? Have you tried it down? Have you tried it down? No, let me try it down. I have a phone. It doesn't work.

That's why I fuck fuck off. I did enjoy them speaking to him through the microphone, which is like one of those bendy tubes that you can move around. It's not just a microphone that can pick up from nearby. So you've got to bend it directly towards your mouth and shout down it. That was quite fun. Like I assume this is basically connected to a paper cup.

And then there's a string going up to the plane and a paper cup on the end of that. Yeah. But it's like Eli's set up when we started podcasting. Right. The microphone's playing towards his mouth. So it's not like he's not exactly good point. This was a little bit more professional. All right. No, the microphone's playing towards his mouth. So it's not like a lot. Not exactly good point. Good point. This was a little bit more professional.

All right. So yeah, they end the call. They go, do your best to control. And he's like, what does that even fucking mean? Hello? Hello? So meanwhile, Walter, the guy with the big plan, realizes that this would be the exact right time

to a cost Dr. Karl Morris. And so he does, right? He gets up, he wonders, but there's like, Dr. Karl, I need to talk with you. It's very important. Let's talk in the lounge and he's like, yeah, nobody's in there curiously. This might, so they go back there.

The nameless fiance flight attendant, she goes to the cockpit and they tell her, all right, so here's the thing, something's wrong. We don't know how bad it is. Don't tell the passengers, even when they start passing out from lack of oxygen. And she goes, great. Yes. That is my job now. Tell them to fasten their seat belts to help with the oxygen. Don't, yes. Don't mention gravity, getting flipped because we're pretty sure that happened also. Just say the seatbelt thing. By telling the fast and seatbelts, we mean, can you go to them individually, slowly, one by one? And can we, the viewers, watch you do that individually, one by one?

Yes. Otherwise, you could be thinking, hang on a second, there might have been a passenger there that she didn't say fast and the seatbelt too. And this is going to take me right after the storyline. No, we need to see every single bit of it. We need to know that she was committed to that. God damn it. Yes. Hey, Joan, I'm going to stop you right there. I'm in the back row. We got it. We got it. Right here. We're sharing. We're sharing food at like a family style dinner together on this plane. We're good. So meanwhile, so we cut back into the lounge where Walter is yammering at Dr. Carl. Now, it turns out that Dr. Carl, this is where we learn that Dr. Carl has an idea for the

next bomb beyond the age bomb, right? It's an even bigger, even worse bomb because that's what we were after in 1961, right? And Walter's like, I have this great idea that the scientific community has been laughing at. And we're like, oh, is he finally gonna reveal it? He's like, what if we dropped bombs on the bad guys? Like, big ones? Right now. Yeah, like really big ones, like a bigger one than we had.

Like his idea is, you know, America is a bunch of pussies they need to build bigger bombs, you know? Yes. You know a bomb? That, but stay with me here, bigger. Bigger than the walls. Wow. Got it. Do you have, a bomb that, but stay with me here. Bigger than flowers. Do you have like a drawing of that? Right down the world, big.

I mean, I've got a drawing of a regular size bomb, but I can bring it closer to you if you need to get ready. And then there's a weird moment. So Dr. Karl Morris is like, dude, you're out of your mind. We're not just going to like blow up Russia right now preemptively for no, that's a, that's a bad idea. You're out of your mind. And then Walter, he's like, that is ableist language. Okay. Like actually Karl Morris is like, yeah, no, I mean, yeah, it's good. No, it's good. No, it's good. Boy, we should use ableist like, I agree with it. But also,

like, come on, man, like you just said a war crime. Yes. So then the flight attendant gets to the back to the lounge and she's like, Hey, you got to go up and fasten your seatbelt. I'm literally telling every single individual person in this movie. And Dr. Karl Morse is like, Oh, good. This gets me out from this conversation. But then he sits back next to the guy who was smoking earlier and the guy goes, Oh, no,

turbulence right after. I hate that's going to get me into the gesture. And he's like, can I go back to talking to the Jedi's side, I'll guy again. This guy's making a preemptive fart excuses. I love that the flight. And he's like, hey, guys in the lounge much no more Scotch and apocalypse yelling because look at the sign has now been eliminated for no doing. Yeah, we have a sign for that too. So we cut back to Tom and Marsha very quickly so that Tom can go like, Hey, it's, it's weird that we've just been going up for the last half hour.

Isn't it? So like, there should be a limit to how up we go. Isn't it? Shouldn't there? And then we cut away. We go back to the cockpit. Everybody's looking awfully sweaty, right? According to the altimeter, they're nearly 10 miles up. They're way over the ceiling of how a high a propeller plane can fly in the first place. Yeah, this is the kind of altitude that only a jet engine could achieve. How are they managing

that? Yeah, that's what they're doing here. Yeah, also they look at the altimeter and then they're like, oh my God, it's going up. But like, you know you've been going, you've been trying to stop yourself going up for the last 10 minutes. Yeah. So what do you think the altimeter was going to say?

Right. It was obviously going to have gone up. You think you was going to loop back around or something and you would be on the ground? Yeah, no, maybe that's it. Like if you fly east, you end up, if I east long enough, you'll end up in the west, maybe it was hoping you'd be on the ground again. No, maybe that's it. You know, like if you fly east, you end up if I east long enough, you end up in the west, maybe it was hoping to fly up long enough. Yeah.

We'll end up in the town. We'll be in town. Oh, yes. Yeah. That's right. So it's fine. Right, right. You know how liberals and conservatives at the edges are like,

basically the same way. Yeah. We're with horses. The first year of air of dead. Yeah, exactly. So we cut back to air traffic control where everyone's taking this so very seriously that a lot of people are in the room and they're all standing up, right? Even the fucking secretary is standing at this point, standing room only. I do like that.

They do have the secretary, lady. She is allowed to stand, as you say, she's allowed to stand, but she's only allowed to stand until they need to do to do some typing and then she'll have to go and type again. That's her own type of contribution. Is it stand there because there might be something we need emergency types and I'm not pressing those keys myself. Exactly. Yeah, because clearly they were like Janet, could you come in here for a moment and they

just do it. Well, just stand there until we get a call. Yeah. Don't say anything. Right. Right. Right. So then we, we cut back to the, to the cockpit, Jack the co-pilot has passed out from the lack of oxygen.

So they, they bring him some coffee. Yes. So it's about replenish the, the O2. Yeah. Having the oxygenated coffee. Yeah. You know, if you put O2 and butter in your coffee, you actually become magical. Oh, yes. So, and then we cut back to the passengers.

Walter has passed out now for the lack of oxygen. So Joan comes through with an oxygen bottle, but she's getting light headed to, so she starts taking a couple hits herself to, and is this where Tom explains to her that she should probably tell people to like, what to expect and not to panic and stuff. And it's like, you're literally mansplaining the flight to Denz entire job to her. I assume she's had some training that you haven't had. You build rockets. You don't fly on rockets.

Like let her do her job, mate. Sit down. Sure. Yeah. But Tom is just, you know, he's endearingly mansplaining. Trust the screenwriter. Yeah. So, but in the cockpit, they're talking about the same thing.

They're like, well, shit, do we tell the passengers that they're in an uncontrolled reverse crash? And if so, how? We don't even have words for this shit, right? And this is when they look out and they notice that the engines quit working all together because there's no oxygen. There's none of the oxygen to sustain

combustion that high, right? Because they're good. They did the science on this one. They nailed the science. Yeah, but and that sets them up to be like, that's impossible. That would take a Christian movie to be happy. He goes, why it would take a miracle. And then he just stops and then everyone stops and they look directly at the camera and eventually it all fades to black. It's so good. It took him too long to feed to black. So all of them are like, miracle.

Isn't there someone else say, like, it goes like, that would take a miracle to, and then someone else goes, a miracle. And then it fades. Yeah, that's not your right. You're right. Yeah. Yeah. Like, wait, it's like he's just had a plan. That's so crazy. It just might work. But that plan is called this miracle. Right. Right. Yeah. Exactly. They all jump up with their feet out to the side. Freeze frame. That doesn't work. No. And I wrote my notes. Oh my god. The plane's climbing all the way to heaven too. Isn't it? Isn't

it? That's what we're going to see. Oh, I really hope that's the thing. Yeah, 100%. That's what I was so excited about. Yeah. So, okay. So, air traffic control boss gets a call. We cut back down to ATC and apparently an observatory has seen their plane in a telescope.

They've lost contact with it, but they're now tracking it with fucking telescopes, I guess. Yes. And they said, the observatoryatory said it's flying without engines. Yes. So the telescopes are so good they could see that the propellers weren't moving at that distance, which is a lot. But they seem to very quickly just accept the it's flying that engines like way, way, way too quickly. Well, either it's flying without engines or they just lost the signals so we can't track them anymore. But on balance of probability, it's probably the magic thing. It's probably that they're still flying, but without 50, 50,

is there at least? Yeah, right. Yeah. So yes, so we watched the air traffic control boss and Gareth, the pilot guy, the expert or whatever, trying to figure out what the hell the plot even is. And the boss thinks that they're dead, thinks that the planes crashed and they must must be dead. But the pilot's not willing to give up on them. Damn it. Maybe the plane can fly without engines for hours and hours and hours and hours and hours and hours of flying directly. Oh, no, it's fine. It's fine. They've still got this out. I, it's a good pilot. He can turn this around. He can fix it. Exactly. Right. And the boss says, don't get me wrong. And this is an exact quote, I've never wanted to be so wrong in all my life. Well, no second takes are, I guess on this, that's not how

that sentence works. So, okay. So we go back to the point now, apparently they've gotten everybody their own little oxygen bottle. They didn't have the whole fancy oxygen mask drops from the ceiling technology in 1961, right? And Marsha, everyone around Marsha needs oxygen, but she is still trying to smoke. Everyone's literally got an oxygen mask to their face and she's like, yeah, I think I need a couple of drawers before I do that. She's like, my cigarette won't light. Yeah.

I can't light my, past me that oxygen tank. I feel like that will fix my lighting situation. So crazy. I feel like that will fix my lighting situation. So crazy. But also, aren't they under the control of God now? Isn't that the movie is telling? So God couldn't just like supply oxygen to the cabin at this point.

I wanted to see where God just gets a bunch of dead as fixated passengers to heaven and he's like, oh, fuck that's on me. I didn't even think about that. Yeah, cause he's like, oh, fuck that's on me. I didn't even think about that. Yeah, because he's like, oh, you're supposed to like punch holes in the box so they can breathe. Oh, no, that's where we're from.

So yes, so Jones passing out, I was just, she passes out from lack of oxygen, right? It feels important to just say to the listeners at this point, you know, we've been doing this short a bit today. This has been, you know, we're getting, we're getting deep into the episode. The plot that we have here is that the plane is going up. And it's been doing that for at least 25 minutes now of the plot being like, well, this plane seems to keep going up. If they get to wherever they get to where they're going, you'd think, oh, that's going to be the thing. That's going to be the most most thing of the movie. But no, because like the time they spend

just slowly ascending cuts into any time they could spend at the destination. Yeah, so do not expect a lot of time with the resolution because we spent it all very slowly ascending. Like this movie was worried that if people went up too quickly, they'd get like the air bends. Like a bend, like on the, you've got to send really slowly to let the pressure equal the interest in fiction. Yep. Even when God is doing it, God is bringing, so God is up there being like, how long before they get to our spot, it's right, yes, it goes slow because of what? Heaven is so far away.

I can't zoop them. You're telling me I can't zoop them right now. I'm God. I think he's reading them in like a fishing me I can't zoop them right now. I'm God. I think he's reading them in like a fishing thing and he's worried about breaking the line. Is that not going to take it slow? Oh yeah. They're trying to do fast. They'll wriggle and then they'll break the line in the skate. Right. Yeah. Right. So there's just a moment where the fiance light attendance. She tries to get into the cockpit and she can't. So she goes, it's time she's like, I saw that you were good at mansplaining things.

Could you mansplaining the store open and he's like, I sure can. So he goes up to the door, he like muscles his way in, all three pilots are passed out. And he's like, you know, plane seems to be still fine though, right? It's still going up. Yeah, up is up is better than what do they even do?

What he proved is pilots are necessary. This is the controlled experiment here. So he's like, you better warn the passengers what's going on. And I'm like, what is, I don't, we don't know that. It would be nice if you weren't the audience what was going on too. Absolutely. Can you let the passengers know what's going on?

And also let me know what's going on. I really appreciate that. Right. So we cut back to Walter, right? Walter thinks that this is like, I don't know, the commies try and to come and take him down because of his brilliant nuke of the commies first idea, right? He thinks this whole airplane is a setup. They're coming for him. So he says, I'm going to get away and runs back to the lounge. Which was very confusing to me. I was like, okay, what's he planning to do back there to foil the Russians at the bar, I wonder.

Yeah, I tell if the movie thought he was a good guy at this moment or a bad guy. I still don't know, now that I saw the whole thing. Not really. Not really. I think the movie forgot he was in it. Like they got to the end and they're like, oh shit, we get that multi guy

who should have done something with. It's fine, it's fine. It's fine. He's he was in it. Like they got to the end and they're like, oh shit, we get that Walter guy who should have done something with. That's fine. He's fine. He's DB Cooper in reality. Oh, they're all interesting. So yeah, so the fiance flight attendant goes out to tell the passengers what's going on, but then she passes out from the lack of oxygen

just as she's about to start. Luckily, she passes out right next to an open seat. So Tom like gently guides her down into that. Then Helen wakes up. The Helen is the blot Walter's wife, the blind wife. And she starts yelling Walter, Walter, where are you? And we're all like, does she do that every time he pees? Like I feel like she's got to be used to sometimes she wakes up and he's not there, right? This is why we just wanted you to do a right young guy. Oh, he is that, but he's very

slightly further away than she was expecting. Yeah, right. Yeah. He's crouched behind her. Somebody push her. Somebody push her. Yeah. So yeah. So she's like a Walter and then Tom goes, Oh, man, I can mansplain my way through this

problem as well. I'll go find your husband. Don't worry, lady. Yeah, man. It's like a tiny little tube. It's not a lot of places to hide. Yeah, there's two rooms in your in one of them. Look around. He's not there. He's in the other one. Yeah.

Where he's in the shitter. So and you were just in the cockpit. So you can even roll that out. Yeah. So we go back to the back of the, the lounge where Walter is. Apparently he's trying to open the emergency door. I just thought he was trying to punch his way through the fuselage. Oh, yeah, he 100% spends a long time just punching the plane. And it's only when Tom gets there, he goes, Oh, shit, doors. Yes. Right. That's how we get through. Cause I shunned. He just saw Tom work the door to the cockpit. And Tom is the only one who inspires door opening knowledge in anybody in this film. Oh, right. Okay. All right. So like it's like Walter's like an NPC in a game where if Tom hadn't have gone into that

room, he'd just been punching forever waiting for the interaction to start. Right. Okay. Just like gliding at that wall, not going anywhere. Yeah. Exactly. So yeah. So, but he's like, what do you do?

And then Walter opens the door and leaps out of the plane. Hmm. And Tom's like, oh, you do it? And then Walter opens the door and leaps out of the plane. Mm. And Tom's like, oh, I best pull this cut and across. Let's get him to be so tough. Yeah, right. So he does. He does.

He walks through. He's like, well, that's a whole fucking thing. We're probably going to fill out a form. Shit. No, we can't go to the bar. Yeah, right. Yeah, he's just hoping someone else discovers it. And he's like, oh, that happened. Oh, that's crazy. Oh, I wonder what happened.

Sure hope Walter wasn't in there. Yeah, right. So he just walks back and by the way, like we should point out that nothing is getting like sucked out of the plane or anything. It's having no effect on the on the atmosphere within the airplane, having the store open. Hmm. So he walks back out. He goes to his seat and he passes out to now everyone on the plane is unconscious. So meanwhile, back at air traffic control, they're all chain-smoking. They just really are emphasizing just how cigarette filled every goddamn phase of life was in 1961 with this film, right? And that they're putting the cigarettes out on the office floor of air traffic control that is dropping them and standing them on the office flow. Like who are

these animals? Right? Yeah. So we watched because then they have figured out earlier that the with the reserve fuel, the plane could stay in the air until 12 30 PM, right? So we watched them watching the clock as it takes around to 12 30. I wrote my notes. We watched them watch a clock in the movie. Yes, we do. We actually do with multiple cuts. Yep. But 1230 comes around. They they still haven't heard anything. So now the plane would have to be out of fuel and everyone must be dead. This is where the air traffic controller says to it. One of the guys, okay, okay, you know, the dead get back to you with the traffic now. And I wanted the guys to be like, okay, we'll oh shit, five planes of crash in the time we were going to get this one. So, we've been crashing to each other like that stupid plot line from breaking bad. It's really bad.

Okay, you know what, from now on, we should not all crowd around this one little area. It's like a shitty mobcaster set up a mic here, but we all have jobs. We all have jobs. My bed. There's a lot of other airplanes. Yeah. Right. And they're like, I guess we should probably tell the news. And I'm like, tell the news what that you're playing reverse crash. This was LA to DC, right? It's not like it was going over the ocean. If you're playing crash, you'd know about it. I think what you do is you tell them that the passengers rose up and all the power of the hijackers and now you know I think that's what you do with mystery But not you too much. That was just that was just that let's roll Liars shut down. All right, and so we get a news montage right well

And I wrote news montage, but it's one newspaper and then one newscaster, they were like, we're not going to do a whole fucking, you get it. You get it. You cast your reading from A full piece of paper. And he's like looking his notes the whole time. Just like you debate him from his notes that while old timing news was great. It was. It's just as a weird like pinion map of the United States behind him for no fucking reason. He's like, yeah, so the app lane went down. Dr. Karl Morris was on board. Also, Tom and Dekot was there. What the Karl Morris? Yeah, exactly. And then like it was a writer in this actor's fucking contract, they're like, also Tom and Dekot made your character. He was on the plane as well, right? An introducing Masha. I'm not a kid. Hahaha. So she dives across the frame.

We're not Masha. Everybody cheers. The home studio audience. I'm trying to get the studio audience. You know what I'm saying? Oh my God. She said her tagline. She said it's Masha.

Classic. So meanwhile, so we cut back now again to the air traffic controller guy. Fucking smoke pacing. He's like, it's been four hours. They think that would mean eight thirty a.m. I don't know how they got there. It's, it's, they would be four thirty. Anyway, it's, they didn't have a mathematician on set, just somebody who played one, I guess.

But he's chatting to the air traffic control pilot guy and he's like, he goes, you know, I got a flight of Washington to coordinate the search, the air search. Well, yeah, they'd never figure out without you, man. It's this way he says, any transition between two conversations, but can't get the volume right? So he's like, well, the thing is, they've got to be somewhere.

Yeah. So aggressive. And I assume it's because he's talking, he's shouting, because the guy he's now talking to has earphones in. Is that quick? Pull your phones out and ask him what he's listening to. Come on, wait, wait an air traffic controller controlling airtrap. I want him to be like, Hey, man, real quick. Just a note for you. Don't aggressively startle me. I'm working here. Air traffic control. You're slapping the instrument panel. Stop. Stop. You get why that's bad too.

Five planes crashed earlier when we had that meeting. So. And then we cut back to the fucking news, cashier to fill us in on the nine seconds that happened since the last time we come. And he goes, he talks about like he's like every air playing in the country was put into action flying back and forth up and down all over the air to look for. I don't know fucking clues.

Don't think that's a pertinent Chris, it quote, Chris crossed the country from every direction, which seems excessive and wildly inefficient because the plane flew from LA to Washington. Okay, we need to crash across the country from every direction. So you start to plane in Seattle and like fly to Alaska and see if you find the way. I think you can rule play in Seattle. I'm like fly to Alaska and see if you find me. I think you can roll that direction out. Well, yeah, right. We have 360 planes from Seattle and then we'll just start moving stuff. Yeah. Hey boss, what angles should we do that at night? Nighty guys, what are you two? Are you serious?

We do a bunch of rum by all over the place. That's insane. Well, yeah, to do every height, too. Come on guys. It's three dimensions here. So all right. Well, we, I looks like we've got a full ass plot going on at this point. So we're gonna pause to soak that in for a minute. But first, let me give Act 3 the hard, so. Will the pending nupsholes between the co-pilot and flight attendant ever factor into the plot?

Will the pain stakingly emphasize fact that this is a prop plane rather than a jet ever matter? Will the dude with the blind wife advance the story in any meaningful way? No. Just no. All three questions? No. But stick around anyway for the almost holy unrelated conclusion of the flight that disappeared.

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Then it simply disappeared. Oh dear! How tragic! Yeah, so we have no choice, but to mobilize the largest aerial search party ever seen. We need to get every airplane in the entire country, criss-crossing the nation immediately. Sorry, we need to what? Make a big airplane grid to search. So a net to to look for flight 60. Look for flight 60 exactly. Oh, so we're looking for the missing airplane in the air. Well, yeah, that's where it was last seen, isn't it?

The air. I'm sorry, so that's not how lost planes work. Yeah, also not how looking for things works. Of course it is. What are you talking about? With all due respect, sir, I think you're underestimating how big this guy actually is. I am not doing that at all.

That's why I intend to equip each plane with binoculars. I didn't mention that. I don't think that's gonna be enough. It would literally be more effective just to ask everyone in the country to look up at like 706 or something. Ooh, you think that would work? Should we do that? No, no, I don't.

I don't think. Damn it. Every minute we're arguing about this is another minute we're not finding flight 60. Right, but compared to your way of not finding it, arguing is just really fuel efficient. Damn it, we're doing the airplane grid thing that I came up with. I have the biggest desk to final say, that's what we're doing.

Pine? But it's stupid. You're stupid. Hey, after this guys, should I go and smoke cigarettes like right next to a baby? Should we sure to. Yeah. Bully in an elevator.

And we're back for still more of this shit. And we're going to rejoin the action with Tom waking up on the plane. Everybody else is still passed out, right? Okay. At this moment, I was really hoping the whole thing would end up being a prank by the KGB to fuck with these like American nuclear rocket scientists and everything. No, I don't like that. Oh, are they really were after Walter?

He fucked it all up again. Yeah. I feel bad that Tom woke up first because he went to sleep last. So he's not going to feel rested at all. No, that's fair. You're right. You're right. So he wakes Marshall.

He shakes. He's like, Marsha, wake up. She wakes up and she realizes that the plane isn't moving at all. She goes, have we landed? And I'm like, there's a window next to you. It isn't dark out, right? We can see the light coming from the window. Have you landed? Very unsurpassable question. Yeah. Right. But so instead of looking out the window, they head to the lounge to look for clues. Well, they don't even head to the lounge. They just stand in the aisle, like the plane just landed and got to the jetway and everybody's like, forgot that there were people in front of them again. You know? Yeah. And Tom's just naming dumb shit. He's like, everybody's dead,

or you know what? Could be a torpor. Right. Yes. could be hypernating. You know what? That they're hibernating like bears. Now that I think about it, there's a lot of options. And Marc's like, what the fuck are you talking about? Can we get to the plot? What are you saying? It's insane, it's insane because he does that just by, he doesn't examine them. No, he just has a visual glance at them and some,

some of us is, oh, they're not dead or unconscious, or asleep, he's specifically says. He says, yeah, they're in a state of or asleep. He's specifically says, he says, yeah, they're in a state of tall part and suspended animation like hibernating bears. What? And it's like, can you tell all that just by looking at them? Cause I don't think any of them have like developed a fecal plug

like a hibernating bear. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You make missiles. Maybe it's like a quantum superposition thing. Right. They're like upspin down.

They're not here. They are here. We don't know. Dude, what are you saying? Check someone's pulse. Just check your pulse. Check their breathing. Yes. Thank you. Also, and this is where they check their watches and realized that both of their watches stopped at exactly 6 p.m. So it's good to know that God's punctual with this guy, Jackings. He also, they says, like, he says he doesn't feel dead. I was like, okay, but like, Walt is definitely dead for what that's worth. He also, they says, like, he says he doesn't feel dead. I was like,

okay, but like, Walter's definitely dead for what that's worth. I mean, let's just use that. Right. We can start with that one and we'll work from there. Right. We're like, how are dead? Are you compared to Walter? I was kind of want to Walter. Yeah. So they check the watches and like, they both stopped at exactly 6 p.m. So that's supposed to be a clue here. And then Marsha immediately checks her heart. And she's like, oh, my, my heart also stopped. But she doesn't check. She just, she just into it's, she's like, oh, it, I don't know, a heartbeat. So can you just do that? Can people just stop and be like, um, well, yeah,

she says it and then puts her hand on her chest. and she's like, yep, yep, no heart. Yeah. So and then she's like, check yours too. And times like, Oh, I also don't have a heartbeat. And I'm like, I feel like you would check two or three places to make sure. Right? Like they just put their hands like sort of in the center of their chest and they go, nope, no, beat.

Yeah. She just cuts her neck open. Okay, blood stopped. This is weird. Yeah, he's went a three-piece suit and he's putting his hand on top of that. Okay. There's a, he's probably got a vest underneath there as well. It was basically just the 50s recently. You were weighing a vest at the same time underneath. So, and then Tom's like, you know what? Let me check the cockpits. See if there are any

clues. There were like, there's an open door and the fucking lounge. But no, he goes to the, goes to the fucking cockpit. The pilots are all still passed out. So again, keeping in mind that he doesn't know for sure if they've landed. He just starts yanking around their joysticks a little bit to see if that does anything. It's the mess. Oh, 100%. He plays with the steering wheel like it's one of those ride on airplanes. He got outside of a stall like he's in trouble. Seriously, he goes up there and he's like, mommm, mommm, mommm, m, but Dr. Morris know that that's a genuine

mystery. Let's check and see if he's in the lounge, right? He is. Yep. Yeah. They go back to the lounge. Dr. Moran because he's in named's character.

He's allowed back there. Yeah. He's chilling and he's just sitting by the open door and we can see that they've they put like a smoke machine right next to him. And this actor is clearly like he's got fucking tuberculosis or some weird shit or something like that. And this smoke is really bothering him and he really doesn't want to sit there. But he has to stay there until they come into the scene. Oh, there is so much asbestos in that smoke. That's smoke is pure asbestos.

Hey, bud, you're taking a shot of the litamide for no reason. Yeah, I don't understand. That's where what are you doing? You're just sitting by the open Hey, bud, you're taking a shot of the litamide for no reason. I don't understand. That's weird. What are you doing? You're just sitting by the open airplane door. And Dr. Morris is apparently back there figuring out how the science of physics stopped working and gravity's not there and time isn't there.

And he's just like doing math and his head about that. Yeah. This is where they ask him what he thinks. And he says, well, you know, I'm just speculating, but you're not speculating because you don't say anything. If you're going to speculate, say some stuff, that's what speculation is. You like to share your speculations with the whole class. If you don't share your speculations, that's thinking, mate.

Right. Yeah. You're just. Yeah. And so this is where they all realized, because so now we've got the mathematician, the missile guy and the bomb guy, right? So they realized that they were all being called to the Pentagon to make this super, what they were calling the beta bomb that Dr. Morrison come up with, right?

That's where they were. They were, they were headed. And they have to explain now, Marsha and Dr. Mars have to explain what that is to Tom. And they're like, imagine a bomb, like where a single bomb could destroy a whole country. And I'm like, well, those vary in size by quite a bit. Are we talking Canada or in door right here, right? Like when you say country, what are you thinking?

Right? Right? Right. And the idea is that they're all realizing like, oh, if you take our different, you know, math and science stuff and put it together, we could maybe blow up the entire world. Do you guys think that's relevant to us being like floated up by probably God right now? Yeah. Because I think in my like, Dr. Morris, he's got the really big bomb and Tom, he's got the really powerful rocket. And Marsha can work out how many big bombs you'll need for how many rockets. She's massive. But like, what was the deal with the bomb when you built the rocket? I don't think you need the maps anymore.

One of those and one of those, that's two. Right. Yeah. Guys, do you think we have become death? Sorry. You know, come on Bob Bob, you knew you're getting made fun of that one more time. Idiot.

And just then, as they're talking about making this great big bomb that can destroy an entire country, a mysterious man from the clouds, like materializes to interrupt their conversation. Yeah. I materialize as he walks through the asbestos. Well, he walks through the yags, he keeps it out to the weather. This actor is called Mr. Legionnaire.

It's where Legionnaire disease came from. Oh, it's just this asbestos, right? All right, no, that makes sense. So yeah, so this guy has, I honestly, I don't know whether it's a British accent or just a theatrical accent that is going over, I don't know, but his is. It or just a theatrical accent that he's going, I don't know, but his is it's a mesothelialma accent. Yeah, yeah, but but he's like, you are in a place where time doesn't exist.

And I'm like, I feel like it'd be harder to have a conversation if you were though, because there's okay. Doesn't he say you're at the place where the future and the present meet? Yes, he does. Which I don't know physics that well. Doesn't he say you're at the place where the future and the present meet? Yes, he does. Which I don't know physics that well. That's the present. I feel like that's the present.

Yes, that is the present. We call that time the present. We call that nowishness, right? Because where the past meets the future is the present. Is that the moment of that? That is that. Yeah. So he's like, where the place where time doesn't have any meaning, where the future and the president meet. And we're like, well, obviously time doesn't

have any meaning. Or that'd be a stupid fucking sentence. Right? And also when he says, you know, you're in the place, you know, whether the future and the president can meet, Marsha says, so that's why I watch you stop. That's an interesting use of soul there. I don't think that consequence flows from that concept. And, and, and, uh, Dr. Morris goes, has this ever happened before? And I wanted the guy to go like, before I just fucking told him the time doesn't exist. What are you talking about? It doesn't even make sense to me.

He's like, no, it's never been necessary until now. And I'm like, oh, there's a now in the place where time is. But what a weird question to prioritize. Right. You're in a place where time is stopped. Okay. Has this happened before? You're not going to ask why you look at the lead with why or how even how I would understand how but no, he goes, so are we like, is that how special are we? It's like, I want to be. Yeah. I'll be your first, we your first, I'll be okay.

So this guy, this, the hovering ghost man that they're talking to is kind of like a Jesus character, right? Something like that. Yeah. Something. Yeah. And he's saying, all right, you idiots, we're going to cause the apocalypse. So I had to do an intervention here.

That's what's happening. Yes. To be clear though, like Jesus is mad because they were going to upstage him and not let him do his apocalypse revelation. Right. I have a whole sword mouth thing that I've been working on. I've been doing the choreography for years on this. Yeah. This is where we get the line because of the fact that we're going to call it the apocalypse. They've brought them here and says to be judged by a jury of all the people who will never be born because of you, which I think technically is the new abortion policy in Texas. I think I'm going to be just for a twist.

Oh, I was like, okay, please, please be a jury of fetuses. Right, yeah. And like little crang suits or something that they could try to buy. Yeah, please. I thought, I just wrote my nose like that doesn't feel like a very impartial adrenal. I feel like that is stacked here. But this is also where we have to explain the big mystery of Marsha, right? Cause she goes, yes, nuclear holocaust, exactly why I don't want to get married and have kids and they're like, oh, that explains why a lady wasn't obsessed with marriage.

Now it all makes sense, right? Yeah. Yeah. I think that's Heath's reason to. He's worried about nuclear winter. You know, I don't know. Yup. So it's just socially responsible to not love. Yeah. I love. I have love. You sure you sure do. He did. Thank you, buddy. We have, you don't need no fancy love from there. We have love at home, don't we? So so the so the guy the the Jesus character he beckons them to come with him right there like he's like he's a come this way. So he walked through having very foggy there. So foggy that you can't really see is that a painting or is that actually just fading into the distance. Really it's unclear,

you know, there's lots of big rocks here like like big plastic rocks. They've walked onto a disused Star Trek set, like Star Trek. Later, Gene Roddenbury would come across this set and be like, bingo, highlight up for plans. Now, yeah. But this is like a heavenly place, ish, right? And we hear the, we kind of know that because of the harp trill that's happening. Oh, yeah, there's a full on harpsil hop solo going on But it keeps going for way too long over and over and I just felt bad for like the angel that had to deal with this Just being like come on. I can play so many different things. You just want Over and over and really? Well, but also like there's a harp solo, but there's still a theorem and underneath it

So it's like an angel and an alien we're in a fight over who gets this movie, right? Who this counts for? But I think that fight did happen, but in the writers room, because this film does not know whether these are angels or aliens. And I assume that's because there was an angel and an alien in the writers room pitching harm. That should be fair. And just like, there was just a magnanimous third party. He's like, okay, it's both. It's both. Would you just shut the fuck up? It's both of you guys.

Enough ambiguity and anything supplies. Do like a harp, theorem and duel for a minute. It was a big thing. Right. Yeah. So he's like, the Jesus guy's like, these are the accused and the jury all walks out, right? Yeah. They suddenly appear like they're about to, like, like Tom is about to watch a private

performance of Lord of the Dan's, because they're just in a big long line Slowly fading into view The hop is just playing away very high waistline in heaven. Okay, and so they're doing like a minority report thing, right? Like this is a trial for future crime of these three people who thought of something but didn't do it yet. Yes. And I'm just thinking to myself, all right, I mean, I get what you're going for here, but God, he ignored a bunch of fucking ski balls over the years, like several. Yeah.

Very recently, this is 1961, y'all. Right. Just look back a little bit. Yeah. Yeah. You want to stop any that? Yeah. Nothing. Nothing want to stop any that? Yeah. Nothing. Nothing spring near mind. Did that track to be not reach all the way to Germany or Austria?

Was it? Is it just an American track to be? Right. Right. It's going to be facing heaven. It's depends on which way the earth rotates at that moment. Apparently, yeah. So yeah. So any, and he's like, you know, but we've got times like we've committed no crime. He's like, no thought, thought crimes, but we're the book. We're the good guys, but we're the big thought crimes. Like, oh, and then fucking Dr. Morris says,

what is this place? And I'm like, come on, man, it's fucking, it's heaven or something vague like that, right? Nope, but it's not because apparently, the guy says, this is not a place. And like, are you sure? Because it seems to have a lot of place like qualities around it.

It kind of looks like a place. Well, so just like time doesn't have any meaning and time and space are really just different aspects of the same thing and therefore nothing has any fucking meaning, yeah. Yeah, that rock over there, it doesn't have any meaning. It's just, it's not really there, yeah. Yeah.

Well, if time doesn't have any meaning, you're doing trial about a future crime we did, so that's nothing, right? Right, yeah. Yeah, he's like, you know, he's like, we're from the future and they're like, he a future crime we did, so that's nothing, right? We're talking about that. Yeah, he's like, you know, he's like, we're from the future and they're like, he's like, are you? He's like, well, not really.

No, hold, hear me out. We are theoretically, we could be from the future, except that you destroy everybody with your bomb, so we don't get to, we don't get to be future people. But, but no, they don't. Like, they, so Jesus guy shows them like a little video of like, look at the future you made where, you know, they blew up the earth and they show a bunch of the earth. Mm-hmm.

If they can see the future up there, they know that the verdict of this trial is whatever it is and they know that they just showed a lie about the future, don't they? Well, but time has no meaning there, he's, so they don't know about before or after. All right, now counterargument. She shut up. Yeah. It is great when they show in the video, because look at what you will do.

See how the devastation has to absolutely count as a war crime. And now let's not think too closely about the case for Hiroshima and Nagasaki. Just get to the US. That's what will happen. Showing you footage of right. The American don't go to the hey. Is. That's the world. Showing you footage. I'm right. American don't go to the hey.

That's not where the American go. Come on. Yeah, I'm also and this is such a minor point, but I have to put it out. He's like, and notice in the video, you don't hear any birds. And we're like, we don't hear wind, man. There's just no audio with that video. He's like, that's because there's no atmosphere. Boom.

I'm it. Yes. I saw that. there's no atmosphere. Boom. I'm a yes. But I saw that I saw an atmosphere. You can see that. You don't, you guys don't know that's a visible thing. I also, I really like it. It's like no birds fly. And then Dr. Carl's like, why? Why is that come on, man?

You're a nuclear physicist. You can probably figure out what happened here. He goes, imagine a child was set loose with a match in a gunpowder factory. And I'm like, now you sound like Eli fucking pitch and citation needed sketches or something. Come on. Calm down.

Yeah. And it's like, yeah, it's like, could anyone predict the extent of that explosion? It's like, first of all, weirdly specific analogy about the child and the factory. But secondly, could they predict it? Yes, absolutely. That's literally one of the physicists you're talking to could do that.

That is their job. With enough information, they could do that. That's Marshall's exact fucking job, man. It's just what you do. What you do make man explain, yeah, exactly. And also thirdly, they still manufacture gunpowder in factories, because if they do, I'd like to think they had some like safety precautions in place. And if a kid did drop them at and the factory went up, I think that will be on the factory

owner for not putting sufficient, you've got to make it flamethrower. You don't blame the kid. Yeah. What all? Did you employ a child and let him bring Max? So Tom would like to speak in his defense. And he's like, but you guys keep talking about what we will. Do we haven't done it yet? I feel like you have to wait until we've destroyed the world before you can punish us.

And they're like, did you hear it? Did you hear it just now when you fucking said it? I think you should just punish us after we wipe out all life on earth and the magic is use specific existence. I think that's the time that we should really be looked up for our action. Right. But now that we're here, let's talk about God who made atoms that spray out insane, exploding poison. If you split them, I just realized that. I didn't do that. Well, but there's really a weird, like, it's all up in Heimers fault if you think about it moment here, right? Where they're like, but we're just the people that have the idea, like, you know, it's the people who actually build the bombs

and decide to make them and decide to deploy them that should be blamed and they're like, no, no, it's science is fault for knowing things. If you hadn't know shit, this never would happen. I want to marshal just put up a hand be like, yeah, I just did like calculus for a second. I'm going to take off because this is obviously. Yeah, come on. Come on, everybody's doing calculus. If it helps, they didn't respect me.

All that me in on literally any of the secrets of half the time, I have to make the coffee. So I think I'm good here. I'm a black woman in reality. So the jury with withdraws to consider the evidence. And now the evidence that they've been presented is just the Jesus guy yelling about how guilty they are. So it doesn't seem like a very fair trial. Quick thing about the withdrawal of the jury for starters, in the future, you want to get 10 people to a jury, not 12th. Interesting, wrinkle. Wonder when that came in, you know, jurors prudent, potentially, when was that kind of introduced. But when they withdraw,

they withdraw into teams of five. And I thought, well, what if they come back with different terms? Oh, right. Yes. No, obviously they have to like change the teams around, like Docey Doe and there's like this sort of swing your partner around. One other note on the jury, it's, it's all white people. Oh, he says these are people from all over the world and we pan over them every single one of them. So why a little more diversity on the world jury? Yeah. I would agree.

So yeah. So while the jury he asks, he's like, hey, so what's the punishment? You know, like if we, if we get found guilty here and he goes, you're going to be stuck in this cloudy, non-time, non-space place for the rest of time. And Tom has this like, you know, turning it into a Marsha doesn't sound so bad. Kind of a look at his face. He does, but he says, you know, if you're guilty, you'll remain here. And Tom says, well, by here, you mean not a here, you know, because this isn't a here, is it? It's all right, man. You know what, man.

Don't be a dick about this. I just like to see how this plan came about in the first place. Hey, God. Are you, uh, you wanted to see me? Hey, Gabriel. Yeah, come on in. So here's the thing. We need to stop the atomic bomb right now.

It's 1961, kind of laid on that, right? I mean, okay, we have stopped a bigger one from having it. Okay, I guess, so what's the plan? Yeah, so I need you to bring in the inventor guy, take him to an atemperal vortex that I'm going to create, and then what we do is I'm sorry, wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait That's everybody says that it's like a whole thing what's done is done removing that no because you can manipulate time It's literally not it is what it is. It is what it is. I said it is what it is I'm doing like a spackle style deity thing. I just like fix things as we go. So anyway go bring in the inventor guy I feel like it's not just one guy. It's gonna be like chemists and physicists and mathematicians. Fine, fine, fine.

I'll get like a rocket guy and a math lady. A math lady? Really? I'm sorry, that just doesn't sound like you. No, no, no, I'm trying to bump up the diversity equity inclusion score. It's like cancel culture. I'm all right, I gotta like get a better score for that. You know, I'm gonna move past it.

So what happens with those three people? Yeah, so we put them on trial for their future crimes, and I already got a jury ready to go. Take a look, there's a jury. Do you want to maybe get a few people of color in there? No. Oh, okay. It's not in their business.

Right, okay, got it. Oh, okay. It's not in their business. Right. Okay. Got it. And it's this web marsher. She says, oh, we're going to be stuck in a fourth dimensional nightmare. And I thought, is it fourth dimensional?

Because it's outside of time and space. Is that like, is that not north dimensional? Like, right. Yes. It's a zero dimensional. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So and while the jury's out trying to decide their fate, I was like, right. Yes, you're all the dimensional. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So, and while the jury's out trying to decide their fate, Tom's like, don't worry guys, I am, you know,

a fucking genius, Missile Nuclear Engineer guy, I have a plan for how we can get out of this. No, like really what should we do? What were you thinking? We should run away. What? Like, you know, you know, here, I do know here, we should go elsewhere, like not not okay, but we're in the

always nothing never always already. That's not that's nothing. Are you a fucking rocket scientist, man? It's great. The future I can see the future. I know it's exactly what's going to happen, but didn't foresee leg it as an old. Right. Yes. Also good point. Yeah. So the jury returns. They're like, you're guilty and Tom's like, now and they run. And the future dude is just like, dude, I just fucking said distance doesn't matter in time. What are you doing? So dumb.

So fucking dumb. So so they hustle back towards the plane. They figure if they can get to the plane, they're going to be fine. But the plane disappears as they get close to it. And I really hope that the plane had been taken to a fifth dimension, high by a different set of future people who had a different beef. Like they were upset at the seating plan at the call pilot in the flight to tenders wedding. Like, you can cry in the future. You ask people if you were vegetarian and then you serve the meat eaters fish, but like someone liked it, but someone worked really into the fish. And if it if it had been known

it was fish and not like a meat, that has had vegetarian. And they go for the vegetarian option, but you need them have fish. So they stay out there arguing about where the plane is, is it left? Is it right? Eventually future Jesus ghost dude walks up and he's like guys come the fuck on I can't run away from the magical vortex of space timelessness idiots. What are you doing? Yeah, it's just it's like a pac-man board. You just end up back over here anyway. We only have So much set that we can blow smoke over Yeah, okay, but then correct me if I'm wrong

God shows up to be like in an awkward fight between him and Jesus like a like a messy fight between the two of them about the philosophy. Oh, that's God. All right. I thought I just wanted the jewelry. It's an older ghost man. And I'm figuring like it's Jesus and dad. Okay. All right. So like again, the movie super, super vague about whether these are fucking ghosts or whether these are unborn fetuses or whether this is God or whatever. But yeah, because what we see is just some random, he's like, you know, I now here by condemn you to spend. And then some other rando old guy comes up and says, no, that is no longer the plot, you know. We're not doing future crime stuff.

And then the Jesus guy is like, God damn, I was using future crime stuff, it makes sense. Okay, this makes a bit more sense, because I thought what had happened here was the future, the guys in the future with his 10 jury members who'd come all this way, had convicted this guy. And then one of the jury members had gone over and gone, actually, you know what? Maybe we shouldn't. Yeah, yeah, okay, fair. Yeah, no, we, we, I think we

could have had this argument before we left. Right. You didn't want to do the future crime thing. You could have said that before we traveled back in time, you're just going to get here and go like, go do it. We could have saved an entire journey. It would have been, it would be much easier. Yeah. It was a good one enough. It's a true, weird fight. And it just ends with the old God guy being like, nope, shut up, shut up. Time stuff makes movies dumb. We're dead. Zook back to the present. That's done. His argument is he says, how can the future presume to judge the present? And I'm like, that's how the future works. That's where the knowledge of the present is, man, every judgment is the future

judging are present. Yeah, yeah. It's a lot of essentially what judging is. That is an inherent part of the judging process is looking back and saying, it's not good or bad. In order, if you pre-zoom the future is the perfect thing to deal with that pre-thing, just think it through. So, yes. So, but the smoke machine fills everything in and then we cut to the flight attendant waking Tom up with smelling salts because yes, it was all a dream. This is not so much of that don't fucking tell me they did the like the the primary school cop out at the end of a story that you can't be asked to finish and you just wake up in a solid dream and that's

what this movie is, but it is. It was all a dream. Well, sort of. We'll get there, right? Or is it? Is it? Is it? Well, so so Tom apparently has never heard of dreams. This unfamiliar with the concept of dreams, because when he wakes up and everything is not how it was when he, you know, last spell asleep, he turns to Martian, he's like, tell them about the fucking God jury trial thing that they did about our super bomb. And she's like, fucking what? Oh, yeah, it's like when a toddler has had a dream and they think it's real and they

start trying to interact with you in it, but it's Tom, the hero of this movie had the intellectual, the hero of this movie had the intellectual about the hero of this movie and a literal rocket scientist at the intellectual capacity of a toddler. Yeah. Yeah, because he goes to Marsha and she says nothing and then he looks back at Dr. Morris. He's like, Dr. Morris, tell everybody about the fucking time vortex. Dr. Morris just tries to hide by not moving. He he said nothing, and he doesn't move for like five seconds. And that works on Tom. Tom's like, fuck, he's gone.

All right, my vision's passed on movement. Yeah, I gotta convince people somehow. Well, and then he's like, no, you guys remember when the plan kept going up, and we all had to take a oxygen, and everyone on the plan was like, no, and he's like, I can prove it. Blind lady, your husband's dead. And she goes, fuck it. What man? Yeah, Walter's not in the chair at that moment.

So that's what that's what Tom is trying to base the sun. And then immediately after he's like, but Walter's missing. Walter walks down the aisle. He's like, nope, just taking a shit. What are you talking about? So what's going on? It very much feels like the movie's going and Walter, who did not die was right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, dry your eyes. Not Christmas Carol. Yeah, right, right. So yeah, so they're like, so, so you need to sit down and like stop all this crazy, ranting bullshit or whatever. So he does, but then Dr. Carls starts thinking about

and he's like, you know, maybe this isn't so crazy after all. So he goes to Tommy says, Tom, I need to talk to you and Marsha back in the lounge and they're like, isn't the plane landing? And he's like, it does apparently doesn't fucking matter in this universe. We also, we check in with the cockpit real quick just as everybody knows that they're still

cocking pits or wherever the fuck that word comes from. So we come back to him in the lounge. That is a weird word. Yeah, but this is where we learn that apparently Martian Carl do remember Tom's dream. So she was just gaslighting him when he said to you, but she's like, I don't know this guy's fucking crazy Well, but the thing is too is that they explained that Tom bump to said they're like, oh, you took a pretty nasty bump on the head Well What did Marsha and Dr. Fucking Carl also take bumps on the head? No, it's just Tom's bump was really bad

Yeah, the bump so hard. The whole team went unconscious. Yeah. And then I guess like Dr. Carl says, okay, so there's only one logical scientific explanation for this. Yes, P. Yes. What? Yeah. What, okay, extras, what were they, all three of them were sensing the same perception of a vortex of nothingness, everythingness? Well, I think that, I think what he was arguing is that Tom was having a dream that was so intense that their ESP picked up on it. Yes.

And that they were seeing his dream, because he says he's like, well, come on, we know scientifically that ESP is a thing, any says he's like, well, come on. We know scientifically that ESP is a thing, right? That's definitely knows no question really about that. So I've never seen Pacific Rim. You remember the drifting thing? How would that even work if there wasn't?

Like in the drift. Yes. You book. And he said, like, your perhaps one day we might be able to explain ESP is that I don't hold your breath mate. You will, you will not like how it was played with ESP in the future. Right. It is not going to be exciting. Well, and Tom's like, okay, all right, well, but I think we actually did get sucked into

a time for it, Texas. Like, that's just silly. You sound silly now. Do you hear yourself? Yeah. Dr. Morris says, well, what's your sign to make explanation? It's like, says the doctor who is literally just saying it was ESP. Right.

Yeah. And don't get to throw a storm to you. And Tom goes, all right, so like even if it was just like a super powerful simultaneous ESP dream, maybe we shouldn't build like Canada destroying bombs anyway. And Dr. Krauss, like, well, now you're just talking crazy. I didn't want them to come to the conclusion that the only way to stop the nuclear holocaust

is for the three of them to hold themselves out of the door like Walter did. Oh, that's the end of the film. They went too late to save it. So, okay. And so then we cut back to the cockpit. They like call into the tower to tell them that they're landing. We cut back to transco HQ and realized that hold on a second, something is a miss here. It wasn't all a dream.

Flight 60 actually did disappear. Yeah, it wasn't a dream. It really happened. The spirits did it all in one night. Yeah, that's what it was. Yeah, exactly. So air traffic controls are like, wait a minute, are you telling me that it's like

for realsies flight 60? So we see a couple of guys run up in trench coast. I wrote in them in my notes. It's like, oh, a couple of detectives are here, but that's how people dressed in 1916. And I can see it is, but they all walk shoulder to shoulder. So I think there are a couple of guys in a trench code. I think they want wide trench code that they're holding. All right. They've done shoulder to shoulder the entire time. You're right. They do. So, so yeah. So they're like, okay, so we should let them land. Seems like the least we should do.

And then we'll sort it out from there, right? They argue about that for a second though. They do. It was like, oh, we're gonna let them land, boss. And it was like, was there talk of shooting them down? They were heroes. Sharks down, it's time to go and get a hero. I should've lost encourage.

Marsh is on board, that's canon board. That's Kevin. So yeah, Marsh did 9-11. So we have this weird moment where like this weird editing fuck up where they're like, yep, the planes landed and then they all look outside, watch the plane land. And then we watch the plane land. It's really bad. They figured out fucking editing continuity sometime after 1961. Anyway, eventually the company Bigwigs run out to meet everybody on the runway. All of this is so unnecessary. They string this bit out for so long.

We get it. They were really missing and now they're not missing. It really happened. But this is like 10 minutes of them going like, hold on a second. What if there's playing come from this plane? Just a bear. We're sure this plane is at the right plane. Is it really a plane? Can we touch it?

Is it real? Lick it. Lick it. Does it taste a measure? So, so now Hank the pilot is the first guy out because when they call back up, they're like, Hey, we weren't expecting to hear from you. And he's like, why the fuck weren't you expecting to hear from me? So he goes out first and to find out what the fuck is going on.

And the bosses are all standing out there. Like the president of the airline that he works for a stand and then when he goes out first and to find out what the fuck's going on. And the, the bosses are all standing out there, like the president of the airline that he works for a stand and there when he comes out. And they have this really like weirdly, coy conversation where they're trying to get him to admit that he's been gone for the last 24 hours. Like it's a gotcha. Right. Yeah. I'm trying to trick him into it into admitting something. Right. Like they'd ask the right question and he'd be like wrinkle in time. It was a wrinkle time. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. They go. So anything unusual happen along the way and he goes, what are you talking about? They're like, yeah, fuck, he's a good one. It's very much

the energy of like you're a teenager and you've had a party and you cleaned up by the time your parents get back and your parents like, so did you do anything while we were out? It's like, oh, fuck does she know? Does she know? Does she know? Oh God, do I have a minute? I don't know. Just tell us about what happened. No questions asked. If you tell the truth, I am. What? Normal speed of my answer now. But the pilot and the bosses are arguing about whether or not it's tomorrow Just as Karl Marsha and Tom are getting off the plane, right? And so they're like, ah the dream did represent a wrinkle in time type thing Even though they said time didn't matter but a full 24 hours passed and

Wait, what were all the other people doing? It's just yeah Questions about but they realized that that was really the future reaching out to them and telling them not to build that bar. Yeah. Oh, no, which means they're going to build a bomb, which means that the world is destroyed, which means there's nothing we can do about this. Oh my God, it's all going to go to shit. No, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. He's going to rip a page up. It's not going to be fine. It's fine. He'll drop one single piece of paper in a bin and the entire crisis is over. The detinging could be entirely punctuated with a mild bit of litter collecting. That's it. The three of them walk away and one of them says to Dr. Carl, like, okay, well, are you convinced? And he's like, yeah, yeah, no, totally. That was a wringling time.

God, I will tear up this one, like, hosted note worth from this tiny notebook to save the world. Because now the nuclear math is over. There's no more. Yeah. Actually, actually, his is a thing I can do just to make this extra secure. I'm going to turn that one in the equation into a seven. That's fine. That's fine. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, keep in mind now in this movie, first of all, we've got Crazy Walter who's

running around like saying how he wants to pre-nuke the Russians. He's there, right? He could see Carl throw away this notebook, which Carl's made very clear has the plans for how to build a world destroying bomb on it. Right. The fucking guy sat next to Carl was the one who was like cheerleading the nuclear war and sat next to Carl the entire time. He's also one of the 10 people getting off the plane and could have seen that as well.

Right. And also, Dr. Carl was so famous for his idea for a world destroying bomb that he can't get on a fucking plane without half of the people recognizing him, right? So like clearly like other countries probably have people watching him. They see him go like, oh, it's too dangerous and throw a notebook into a trash can. I feel like to go and into that trash can. Right? Yeah. So all kinds of ways that this guy, like, he didn't set it on fire even. He didn't even fold it in half. So at least you'd have to pick it out to the bin to read it. Right. I keep my mat. What if you tear up a page of your missile notebook? And I feel like rock paper scissors.

So and that's the end. That's the movie. These like, oh, I tore up my notebook and they're like, well, in the future, it'll be just fine. Then I guess we'll only have hydrogen bombs. We'll stop it at a reasonable amount of explosives. All right, but I want to end on a personal question because this got to me to think in last night. So imagine that theoretical future alien gods kidnapped the flight that you're on so that everybody else will pass out and they can condemn you for some future action that you haven't yet committed. What are you on trial for?

Okay. I probably, I'm like the John Conner of the Oxford Comma Wars. I probably kill a lot of people. All right, that would have been my guess. Yeah, we never just decided. I think they're going to come back in time to try me for inventing time travel. I think I'm going to be able to do it. I think they're going to recognize that and come back in time to try me for inventing time travel. I think I'm going to be able to do it. I think they're going to recognize that and come back in time to stop it.

Not because they're against time travel, but just because they want to set up one as paradoxes. Right, yeah, I know. It's like really lucrative to determine it franchise. So there's a lot of money in a good paradox that they want to set up. I'll give it. All right.

All right, well, I guess that's going to do a for a review of the flight that disappeared. That's not going to do it for the episode just yet, though, because we still need to like get caught in the same fucking web next week. So tell us, Heath, what's on deck? We're gonna be watching, come out in Jesus name. And I believe that is a Greg Locke documentary of some sort.

Let me just say on behalf of my inbox, it's about damn time, right? We just did, we did just it in Jesus's name and a lot of people thought, sorry, in Jesus name and a lot of people thought that's what we were going to do. So I'm very excited about that. So with that to look forward to, we're going to bring episode 409 to a merciful close. Once again, a huge thanks to Mars for hanging out with us today and a reminder to check the show notes for links to his other show and check the show notes to get your tickets for QED. They are still available. It's the best conference and skepticism. And it's happened in March, Wednesday, tap.

Woo! They absolutely are still available. Absolutely. So yeah, it's the 23rd and 24th of September in Manchester. In the same venue, we always have the McHugha Piccadilly. There's lots of really interesting speakers. You've got Joe Ondrak, who's an open source investigator who looks at things like the Q&N on movement.

We've got Debbie Ging, who looks at radicalization into the in-cell movement. We've got Dr. Wallace Howarth from Skeptics with a K, who's my co-host on there, and a fantastic, fantastic Skeptic and stuff. It's just going to be a really, really good on. We've got Dan from Knowledge Fight, who's going to be talking all the life of his work tracking Alex John. Just going to be a huge, huge amount of fun. it always is great. So you should all definitely definitely come. Qedcom.org. I am more excited about the Qed main stage speakers this year than I have been in a while and that's saying a lot because you guys always put on a hell of a show.

Oh, it's a really fun lineup. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, be sure to check the show notes for more information on that. Also, I have to throw out a huge thanks to all the Patreon donors to help make the show go. If you think you're something among their ranks, you can make a prep episode donation at patreon.com.se God off and they're by your normally access to an ad free version of our episode. You can also help a ton by leaving a five star review and by sharing the show and all

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The plane arrived two years ago. The plane arrived two years ago. The plane arrived two years ago. The plane arrived two years ago. The plane arrived two years ago. The plane arrived two years ago. The plane arrived two years ago. Ever wrote, equals bomb QED, like Karl Morris did on that little piece of paper and nuclear weapons are gone now. That's nice.

The plane arrived 24 hours late, and everyone on board almost died, but it was still a better experience than flying Rhino. Oh sure. Yeah. I still have an injury from that. The future would go on to wonder if saving humanity had been the right move. I love you trying to force the ours in. It's just it cracks me up. I believe in mine out for the sake of the accent,

but I love, I love listening to you for it. It's so good. Yeah, you still, you have an old timey Jonathan Jerry going. Now we go. 60s Jonathan Jerry. It's the best. All right, interstitial two. Yeah.

I like that you went with American aggressively drunk. I feel like I was the only type. It's the only type. You lived too close to Ireland to say this next one. I've got to stop doing American. I can't keep it. Watch this. Like my face hurts.

I don't know what it is. It's like I've been playing trumpet for an hour. I can't handle all this innate confidence. I'm not made for it. I'm going to go back to a mouthy Britishness. American umbershirt. That's weird. All right, and interstitial three. The Christcross flights, I just really want the multi-sat crashing because the air traffic controller is paying attention to my computer. really want the multi-sat crashing because the air traffic controller is paying attention to the public. It flights off to literally crisscross at 90 degrees. Every plane just keeps hitting on the plane. We should have designed a different lattice.

Did we not? You had to shagger. The ones going left have to stagger with the fuck. The preceding podcast was production of Puzzle and a thunderstorm LLC, Copyright 2023. go and left have to stagger with the fuck. The preceding podcast was production of Puzzle and a thunderstorm LLC copyright 2023 all rights reserved.