God Awful Movies - 475: Am I Racist?

Episode Date: September 24, 2024

This week, the guys team up for a woke review of Am I Racist?, the story of Matt Walsh pretending to be self aware to be funny. Because the key to humor is a rigid and intentional lack of self awaren...ess. === Come see us live in Nashville! https://www.eventbrite.com/e/god-awful-movies-live-in-nashville-tennessee-tickets-997264413707 If you’d like to make a per episode donation and get monthly bonus episodes, please check us out on Patreon: http://patreon.com/godawful Check out our other shows, The Scathing Atheist, The Skepticrat, Citation Needed, and D&D Minus. Our theme music is written and performed by Ryan Slotnick of Evil Giraffes on Mars. If you’d like to hear more, check out their Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/EvilGiraffesOnMars/

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Starting point is 00:00:00 It's why, for instance, Christian apologists don't debate professional atheists, right? Ray Comfort doesn't ask us, are you a good person? Because we have good answers to that. He asks stone teenagers. He fucking are you a good person's the fucking best person at answering that question. Yes! Poss possibly on the planet Hey, man, this is a bad sign. You should have got Ray Comfort as a consultant on your strategy Bad news
Starting point is 00:00:37 God awful movie Movie! Welcome back to the GAMCast where each week we sample another selection from Christian Cinema because none of us has said uncle yet. I'm your host No Illusions and sitting 700 miles to my immediate left is my good friend Heath Enright. Heath, welcome back. Daily wire in theaters. Yeah, it was... field trip. Lovely. Number one comedy in America, everybody. Oh my fucking God. They made so much money. And sitting 900 miles to my northeast, you've already heard him, but I should introduce him anyway, is my bad friend Eli Bosnick. Eli, how are you this fine afternoon, sir?
Starting point is 00:01:21 Not racist, I'll tell you that. Not. Not racist. Establishing early. Yeah. Same. Well, you know, we're grading on a curve today. Yeah, we all get to win that one for free. I was going to say on today's curve, I think I might be black. Honestly.
Starting point is 00:01:37 So tell us, Heath, what will we be breaking down today? We watched Matt Walsh's latest Daily Wire movie, Am I Racist? It's the story of yes. It's the story of yes. Or am I? Yes. Yep. As it turns out.
Starting point is 00:01:57 Or is it? Yes. Yes. That's the whole movie. It's him asking people and them being like, yep. Yeah, though that's a racist thing you're doing. And Eli, how bad was this movie? Well, if you love fighting with your racist relatives on Facebook, but you wish they'd
Starting point is 00:02:14 accidentally make a movie about the time they shat their pants at a Buffalo Wild Wings and had to be carried out to their Uber wrapped in a trash bag by the bouncer. You will love this movie. My friends, we have seen a lot of self-onage on this show. A lot. My goodness, we talked about God's Not Dead 37 last week on this program, but this is a breathtaking lack of self-awareness this particular film. It truly is. Yeah. I'm okay with everybody seeing this film. That's how much someone is in it.
Starting point is 00:02:52 Really? Yeah. Is I'm like, yeah, sure. I'm okay with people seeing this film. Get this information out there. Everyone should read the Bible too. It'll go badly. Yeah. Right. Right. I don't want them to pay Matt Walsh for it, but I do want people to see it. So is there anything you guys want to nominate this one for being the best at being the worst at? Best best self-ownage, just like Eli said. Yes! I was gonna say best best or best worst whatever, not knowing that you lost.
Starting point is 00:03:15 Yeah! And when you lost. So, he spends the whole movie, he's pretending to be, he's undercover, he's pretending to be like a DEI loving white guy and he's gonna satirize that to try to like take it down and he sets up a bunch of fake moments and Every single time in every moment he sets up we watch people be like, oh you're in a costume making a racist movie I'm leaving. Yep, and a hundred percent and then but then he keeps going though He keeps showing all these movies that in the movie and afterwards he shows it so like the same everything that happens
Starting point is 00:03:50 After they clock you as the troll is just losing to your own movie, and he shows all of it. Yeah Yeah, no I was gonna go with the exact same thing and I realized no you get you can't hit that beat three times in a Row so I switched mine at the last minute to best worst drunk So there's a point in this movie where he's just he just needs some everyman wisdom and the guy he Yeah, the guy who looks like you left the thing on your dashboard overnight, and it was hot outside Insane the people he chose the people he chooses to represent the everyman are such, listen to me carefully, are such offensive stereotypes of white people that I, against this movie, watching this movie was like, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Yeah. That was racist. You're racist against white people. That was offensive. That guy, I think that guy's like post-stroke or something. He needs to be subtitled! He was slurring so bad. It was 2.30 in the afternoon and he was slurring so bad they had to subtitle the man who was speaking English as his first language. On Matt's side? It was Tom Segura doing an impression of a Louisiana guy.
Starting point is 00:05:07 Yeah. 100%. If we showed that clip to Tom Segura as like, hey, here's a parody someone did of your Louisiana bit. Tom Segura would be like, it's a little broad. Jesus. And I'm going to go with best best theater experience. Now, my friends. I know You're not going to believe me, but this is a hundred percent what happened to me, and I'm going to speak my truth
Starting point is 00:05:33 I know we usually save this for the beginning of review But I need to say it now because it has been bubbling up inside me since I watched this movie on Tuesday afternoon, okay, I just want to say that I have a best, worst, worst, worst theater experience. Oh, okay, fantastic. Do you want to go first then? That way I can be a palate cleanser. Okay, I'll tell you the first thing that happened to me. This time, because last week I had trouble with this,
Starting point is 00:05:58 I tried to buy a ticket last week ahead of time and I didn't bring the business credit card that I used and it didn't work, so it was a big pain in the ass. This time I brought business credit card that I used and it didn't work so it's a big pain in the ass this time I brought my credit card very intentionally because I Wanted to go to the little machine and boot my credit card and not speak to a single human being About what I was about to do yeah, I can imagine so I can imagine I remembered my credit card But it didn't fucking scan right so I tried to use the machine didn't work, and then I had to buy
Starting point is 00:06:28 tickets at the counter from the African American Counter he might have worked, but I said and I was like oh good I don't have to do that and then I walked up and the guy taking the tickets was a black guy I was like it's I'm ironic. It's I'm a reviewer. I credit black guy and I was like it's I'm ironic it's I'm a reviewer I credit you a review in a movie critic I spent like a minute and a half doing that same thing you just did but mumbling yeah so first I was like I almost did the the barbershop thing where I was like I'm gonna wait for the next counter person's shift to begin I'm gonna stand here for hours I don't care good I'm good I'm
Starting point is 00:07:02 just gonna chill here for a second. Yeah, you do. Everybody go ahead of me. Everybody go ahead of me. When do you get a break? God. But then I finally had to do that and then try to explain awkwardly. I have podcasts, ironically. I held my phone at arm's length like I was keeping it from the usher who took it.
Starting point is 00:07:18 And I was like, you're about to see what ticket I've bought. I make a funny movie podcast where we make fun of bad movies that I don't like. And then I handed handed it to him and he was like, okay man, and I was like, all right now I over explained it Yeah, man. I I wanted to ahead of time make a t-shirt that said I do an ironic podcast Yeah, I'm here ironically. Yeah, you know so but but Eli we're still waiting on your best work. Yes Okay, so I have that experience where I show the usher I don't feel believed. I don't feel listened to I get into the theater and I would love to tell you podcast listener that my theater was dead empty, but it was not it was occupied by two white bros
Starting point is 00:07:58 backward baseball caps still on Feed up on the on the seats in the theater, there to celebrate the works of The Daily Wire. And I go into my back far corner, right, which is where I always, because I have a little light that I'm writing with, right, because I'm using my phone. And so I go back in the back corner and these guys obviously feel like this is the safest place possible for them to be the racist pieces of shit that they are. They literally, and I saw you guys got it too, and AMC did like a, it's Hispanic Heritage Month ad before the movie started.
Starting point is 00:08:28 They booed the Hispanic Heritage Ad. They booed the concept of Hispanic Heritage Month. Was booed by these people. And I was literally sitting there being like, I don't like this. I don't like that I'm in the room with these guys, right? One minute before the movie starts, a group of six black teenagers come in and sit directly surrounding these two white guys so that they can loudly...
Starting point is 00:08:58 Somehow they spin some of the chairs to face them. ...so that they can loudly make fun of the movie the entire time. And these white guys sat there in paralyzed, hateful silence the entire fucking film. These teenagers like, that's right, they would just yell throughout the, I don't have it in my note, they would just constantly make fun of the movie to the movie. And these just two livid white bros in between the group of them just sat there in perfect silence. My notes in order are, oh my god, a group of black teenagers just came in and they're sitting on either side of them. I'm so happy. Nobody will believe me. I have magic powers. I'm crying with laughter.
Starting point is 00:09:42 Okay, I'll tell you when I walked into the theater I saw 11 white guys each sitting alone obviously separated out I sit down in my back row seat cuz same thing yeah I got the I'm gonna take the phone and try to swipe some notes as fast as I can a little bit of light and then a couple minutes after I sit down, two black women come in and sit right next to me. No! Right next to me and I was like, ironic, I'm here ironic, it's ironic. All right, no way then.
Starting point is 00:10:13 They sat right next to the shaved headed guy, yeah, I get it, I get it. Yeah, and when they were doing, they were just like talking a little bit before the show started and at one point they were like, I think we're scaring these white people. They'd be so happy. So it was just me and one other guy in the theater.
Starting point is 00:10:30 I got there way early and took the back corner like I always do. And then one guy came and he sat right in front of me. Like the guy in the urinal meme. And he kept looking back at me kinda like, huh, that's pretty funny, right? And I'm like, this guy's gonna try to make friends with me. And he will, I will looking back at me like, kind of like, huh, that's pretty funny. Right. And I'm like, that this guy's going to try to make friends with me. And he will. I will mention it later in the.
Starting point is 00:10:49 But he tried to make friends with me afterwards. All right. Well, I need one more break to try to clean this movie off of me. So we're going to take that. But we're back in a minute with all the blatant affirmations that are. Am I racist? I don't know why you'd buy a pro when it doesn't come with the disc drive. Well, you can buy the disc drive. Right, but it's supposed to be the upscale. Why wouldn't it have all the stuff?
Starting point is 00:11:13 I mean, I didn't make it, man. Hey guys, what's going on? Sip. Hey. Hey Eli, are you a little underdressed there? Seems like you're a little underdressed. Oh, am I? I thought we were just doing European these days. I don't think that's considered European, Eli. Also, what are you talking about European? He's talking about quints. Is that the guy he was emailing?
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Starting point is 00:12:28 you'll be wearing for summers to come with Quince. Go to quince.com slash awful for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. That's Q-U-I-N-C-E dot com slash awful to get free shipping and 365 day returns. Quince.com slash Awful. Thanks Heath. Eli, I think that string is supposed to go in the bag.
Starting point is 00:12:52 Don't be silly, what would I wrap it around? You know what, nevermind. Hey podcast listener, I'm no illusions. I'm Heath Henright. And I'm Matt Walsh. Matt Walsh, what are you doing here? I'll tell you what I'm doing. I'm helping out my biggest fans.
Starting point is 00:13:07 Oh dude, we are not your biggest fans. I actually wish you were dead. That's true, but you guys saw both of my movies. That makes you the majority of the people who saw my movies. So I'm giving you a little sneak peek of what's coming up in my The White Guy trilogy. Okay, what's that? I'm glad you asked, Keith. Just in time for Christmas, Daily Wire is proud to present
Starting point is 00:13:28 How Come Nobody Ever Helps Me With The Christmas Lights. It's the story of a dad who never lets anyone help him hang the Christmas lights, finally working up the courage to yell at his children about it. I see. And anything planned after that? Oh, we sure do! Well, after Valentine's Day rolls around, we've got my dick isn't small, your vagina is big. That one's kind of self-explanatory.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Sure. And it's all accompanied by our brand new streaming series, Anything But Self-Awareness. We'll dive into history and today's greatest mysteries, like aliens and why everyone but me seems to have friends from college. And who's stopping people from enjoying my super funny tweets?
Starting point is 00:14:06 I can promise you this. None of the answers are that I suck. All right. Well, looking forward to it. Hey, Matt, question. Um, what do you look like without a beard? Oh, like my personality. Sure. Yeah. Same, buddy. And we're back for the breakdown.
Starting point is 00:14:27 And of course, this was a super uncomfortable field trip. So all of our notes start before the movie. They sure do, baby. Yeah. How does it feel to gaze into the future as you watch the previews for Dinesh D'Souza's vindicating Trump documentary? Oh my God. Yeah, no, the whole time I'm watching it, I'm like, fuck, I'm going to have to watch Dinesh D'Souza's vindicating Trump documentary.
Starting point is 00:14:45 Yeah, no, the whole time I'm watching it, I'm like, fuck, I'm going to have to watch that. You have to do that too. Yeah. I got so many previews for this. It felt like the movie ran like 30 minutes late on the start time. And I was like, I hope this is on purpose. If they just keep showing previews until we all leave slowly one at a time, I'm going to be so happy. I'll have to deal with it somehow for the job, but I don't care. That'd be awesome. There was definitely a revenge element to my movie because they never turned the lights down
Starting point is 00:15:16 and at no point did they ever turn the lights down. And at one point, the guy who urinal memed me, who sat right in front of me the whole time, went out and like clearly I'm sure he was asking him to turn the lights on but they never did and that's great for me because I'm taking notes the Whole time I don't have to use my phone or anything like that That was awesome. But like that guy was just pissed you could barely see the fucking movie I had the experience of you know all those things they show you before the movie to try and like thank you for seeing a movie Instead of streaming it at home, right? Like the Nicole Kidman thing where she's like, wow, lights never feel better than when I'm in a movie theater.
Starting point is 00:15:52 I look like a space alien. They all struck me as so surreal as I prepared to go watch. Am I racist? Because when someone's like, thank you for experiencing engaging stories on screen, the way they were met. Yeah, I was just like, the daily wire. I wanted a voice to cut in and be like, except this one, except this one. Right, yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:16:13 This is not, this is Nicole Kidman, specifically adding her contract that wouldn't be shown before. You can't say the word majestic and then show Matt Walsh. It's not, it's physically impossible to do. You'll have an allergic reaction. Ah, Gladiator 2 looks so awesome though. It does. Yeah. So and then we get the Daily Wire logo and they try to do the Marvel logo thing where they show all the like past movies projected on it except they've only done like three fucking movies. So it's kind of a sad
Starting point is 00:16:41 little thing. To be fair, they bought an existing film called Run, Hide, Fight, which they slapped their politics onto at the last moment. They did the Matt Walsh movie before this one and this fucking movie. Well, they had Lady Ballers in there too. They showed that. Oh my goodness. I forgot about Lady Ballers. Also, Matt Walsh vehicle.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Yes. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So, and then we get this opening quote by Ibram X Kendi which all they show is the only remedy to past discrimination is future discrimination I'd encourage you to look up the whole quote. It's actually he makes a really interesting point there, but they're not oh was there context Nuance to anything ever I'm sure sure you are. We're doing Am I racist, Noah? Get the fuck out.
Starting point is 00:17:26 There is no room for me. Do you guys think Matt Walsh's people reached out to Ibram X. Kendi and he was like, you guys are Matt Walsh and they were like, fuck. Yeah. Well, so yes, we'll get to it. I have a theory that's very much along those lines. But yeah, so then we open with the movie, like where he's like, I guess,
Starting point is 00:17:46 tricked his way onto a Utah morning show by pretending to be a DEI expert. Okay, just a quick reminder, because this is gonna be like his major gotcha, is like, I made it onto morning shows. Multiple morning shows have had me on to be a magician. The standard of going on a morning show is being willing to go on a morning show.
Starting point is 00:18:11 Waking up. Right. Being awake that early. Yes, exactly. Well, and also, so like, and this is because he's going to try to do the whole Borat thing right throughout the movie, except he doesn't understand why that's funny at any point. Yeah. So he doesn't exaggerate right. And he never has anything funny to do or say. So you know, like, like he starts this out with he's like, well, you know, I'd like to
Starting point is 00:18:34 start off by doing a land acknowledgement. And he just does that. Right. As it is, oh, ha, caring about the genocidal funding of our nation. So stupid. That's the joke. Yeah. And he was in Utah, so I thought he was going to be like, this is Lamanite land. Oh, not that great!
Starting point is 00:18:51 That could have been funny. Right, but you're funny though. We can't help but write better bits than Matt Walsh writes. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. So he does that. And again, there's no punchline. He doesn't just like, you know, list, you know, again, if I'm trying to do this as a
Starting point is 00:19:05 joke, I'll start listing, you know, and the end Australia, pit the scene and et cetera, et cetera. But he's too dumb to think of any fucking jokes. So he just does a land acknowledgement. He might also not believe in that. Well, that's why. Yeah, right. No, that'll divide his audience. That's true. Yeah. But yeah, then he has this little exercise where he asks these two ladies to stretch
Starting point is 00:19:23 out of their whiteness. Oh, right. Yeah. Anti-racist yoga for white people to get woke. Which I was like, okay, I mean, that's dumb, but solid idea, like, whatever works, you know? Sure. Like, try it out. Yeah. But then the voiceover comes in and he's like, you're probably wondering how I got in such a funny and wacky situation right here.
Starting point is 00:19:42 And I wrote my notes by trying bigger shows until one was desperate enough to accept you. Yeah. I thought he just meant, like, being Matt Walsh, and I was like, okay, so I had a bad experience with a black guy in high school, but I did not go to therapy. So, yeah, I was really...
Starting point is 00:19:59 I would love to know how Matt Walsh got here, because there's too much, like, plugging in of microphones for Matt Walsh not to have become self-aware for at least a handful of seconds. Yeah right right but yeah but then that's that's what's gonna get us into our culturally appropriative credits and they land us on Matt at a diner thinking to himself well you know I've been white my whole life and I've never thought much about race and I'm like, that is the most privileged possible goddamn fucking thing that you can say. He does the internal monologue I would write for a racist. Yes.
Starting point is 00:20:34 Right. He literally goes, race never mattered. I mean, you noticed when someone was black, you'd be like, yeah, but, um, not racists Lee Look like his argument here and the main argument of the film is that he doesn't encounter racism very much So it doesn't exist very much now, of course We will go through the entire movie watching him la la la I can't hear you people are trying to explain to him the racism he encounters every day But he doesn't see like people screaming the N-word very much and therefore there is no racism. Sure, but just for extra context about the question of the movie,
Starting point is 00:21:13 this little scene starts with a little montage of Black Lives Matter protest signs in evil sepia tone as like a pop scare right then he's in the diner and he's like I grew up in the 90s we didn't really worry about racism the races are black white Mexican you knew people were but it didn't matter and then you like am I racist and I was like already yes Wow yeah close the movie please you're really you did six really good sentences proving that you are yeah no and and the thing with the land acknowledgement at the beginning and but then he's like he's got to order his
Starting point is 00:21:48 coffee and he's nervous to order it black from this African-American waitress because race relations are so complicated. Yeah, okay, this one I actually was like yeah I've had this thought of like what's plain? I like it plain. Normal. Please, normal, regular? No wait, it's yes. I like it best. Normal. Please, normal, regular. No, wait. Better.
Starting point is 00:22:05 I like it best. The best one. I would prefer whatever coffee you could get. What do you think I should get? Whatever you want to give me is cool. But then he fucks it up again and he's like, I don't like my coffee miscegenated with cream. And he's like, you actually here?
Starting point is 00:22:20 Be like, fuck, hold on. No, that, okay. He said miscegenated with cream. Am I racist? And I was like, Ibbid, you're done. You're done you're done with your movie. Why are you being racist? Obviously are racist well and and so then he's like am I racist so he decides to go talk with a his first talking head this is Kate Slater she is an expert in anti-racism she's white and he makes a big joke about ah she's white and she's an expert in racism
Starting point is 00:22:42 I'm like yeah man cause she like listens to people who tell her about things. Like you will actively try not to do throughout this film, you know? Also you're making, you're a white guy making a movie called Hey, Am I Racist? Right. Just Matt sitting with his arms crossed
Starting point is 00:22:55 at the back of SeaWorld. This motherfucker's not even a dolphin. What the fuck? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Let the dolphins speak for themselves. Am I crazy?
Starting point is 00:23:05 Am I racist? And this is where we'll get, well, I guess we'll really start Heath's best words, right? Because he's asking her all these like, what is racism and what is putting in the work for anti-racism? And she just keeps giving these really good answers. The whole movie is just asking questions, people giving a good answer and him being like, ha ha ha. Dumb cut.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Yeah, right. No, he goes like at one point, like this is his first attempt at a gotcha. He's like, when should you start talking to your kids about racism? And she's like, before they can even talk. And again, this is the correct answer. When should you start trying to combat racism? Well, it's everywhere. And so yeah, it should be before your kids even have language, you should be trying to you should be like seeking to introduce them to a diverse group of people and give them books with diverse people. Yes, that is the right answer. But he's like, this fucking idiot going to tell a baby about racism. You call a baby race. You're saying show a series of graphic lynching photos to a baby.
Starting point is 00:24:03 Have that be their first mobile. That's what I think you're saying. Yeah, I'm Matt Walsh. Can a baby be racist? I'm Ted Cruz. Yeah. Right. Yeah, exactly. And then we get his Moana problem. Oh, God, this is so good.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Yeah, right. Because because she's like answering his question really well. And she's like, yeah, well, you know, I noticed that my daughter, even before she had language, would gravitate towards white princesses more than the more diverse princesses in the in the Disney lineup so I tried to like kind of make sure she also had heroes of color and he's like right but what about what your kids want to dress up with as a miss for Halloween now it's cultural appropriation and he seems to think that there's a catch 22 that he's created here I can't dress like everything I like sounds like bullshit to me, right?
Starting point is 00:24:50 Like you can't imagine like dressing as Michael Jordan without the black face, right? Yes, yeah, and look have we had that argument backstage at a bunch of live shows? Yes, but no one knows arguments and that's what's important Did somebody at my all-white middle school dress up in brown makeup to be Michael Jordan during the 90s? Yes. Yes, that's what I was saying. Did anybody say anything about it? Anybody at the school?
Starting point is 00:25:14 Any of the adults in charge? No, not a word. Was that Perth and Heath then right? He won the contest for best costume. Oh my God! So... for best costume. Oh my God! So, yeah, but Dr. Slater explains that there's nuance when it comes to racism in this movie. He's like, that's how you know she's full of shit.
Starting point is 00:25:32 Nuance. And he keeps coming back to this thing of like, what does do the work mean? And he just keeps saying it so much that she's like, I mean, you could read some books, man. And I realized that this movie's response to, you could read some books about the things you don't know is No, yeah, that's dumb
Starting point is 00:25:49 We go to a fucking bookstore afterwards to make fun of these idiots with all their words and on paper and shit Yeah, he's anti Bookstore books. Yeah. Look, here's the thing people like I get that There are a series of bad brain chemicals and bad growing up life experiences that put you in a position to be conservative We hear from listeners who are ex-conservative all the time We hear from listeners who were born and raised with terrible ideas but when you are making a movie about how bookstores are bullshit, a certain percentage of you must become self-aware.
Starting point is 00:26:28 I don't think that's true. I want that to have to be true, but I don't think it is. And this is where we're going to introduce another of the major themes of the film. And I would say probably the dominant theme of the film, right? Because he walks into the bookstore, he's like, wow, are all these books about anti-racism? And it's like two shelves worth of books. And she's like, yeah, that's- It's so small.
Starting point is 00:26:50 It's just this tiny little thing, but he's trying to make this point that like, anti-racism is big business and they're making a lot of money off of it, right? And that's fucking hilarious for a lot of reasons, but mostly because when they cut to the other angle, right? Like to his angle of the conversation the books behind him are How to make a movie so oh?
Starting point is 00:27:11 Fantastic yeah, he's in the pet grooming section our pets not really exactly that's just a lot of There's a lot of money in any like like everything every subject has books about it man. Are they all bullshit? I mean, I think Matt's answer would be yes, but that's the about it, man. Are they all bullshit? I mean, I think Matt's answer would be yes, but that's a different scene. Well, that's true, yeah. It's for a different day. And this is fucking fantastic moment, right?
Starting point is 00:27:33 Again, I will point out that Matt Walsh spends this entire movie trying to gotcha someone and he never does it to the person he wants to do it to. He will accidentally do it later in the movie, but not to the people he's hoping for. And so he's got this lovely girl from the bookstore there and he picks up a book that's titled as the N-word and he's like, could I say this? And she's like, no, man, you can't say that.
Starting point is 00:27:55 And he's like, well, then how would I ask for it? And she's like, come on, what are you six? Are you a racist six year old? You know about the word this or book or hand it to me and I boop it and you pay. What are you talking about? And not only is it the dumbest possible question, but she gets it right. She nails the answers. She manages to take them seriously long enough to go, well, you know, you could just say
Starting point is 00:28:19 the title is the N word or you could refer to the author's name and ask us about it. You know, the God of the movies guys have not said the name of the book and yet their audience knows what fucking word it's named. Here's another thing you could do. You could leave the store because you're faking and you're not going to read this book. Right. Yes. How about that?
Starting point is 00:28:40 And she gives him some suggestions. She's like, well, here are some books by diverse authors. And he goes, what makes an author diverse? And again, thinks he's got a gotcha there, but it's like well here are some books by diverse authors and he goes what makes an author diverse and and again thinks He's got a gotcha there, but it's like nothing man a group can be diverse Yeah, she actually explains again perfectly She's like oh like racially diverse it means not white in America because you know the majority is white because the word because the word And then that word means First again because of the word because what words mean because if I have four pairs and one apple the apple
Starting point is 00:29:07 is diverse and he's like so apples aren't diverse and she's like I feel like you don't know how anything I feel like you're Matt Walsh making a movie right well so and and then we get that so I have a fan theory here right cuz you see her she's walking or she's got this big ass stack of books right and then you see him walking away with just white fragility. Yes. Which by the way, is an amazing book. So, and he's like in different clothes
Starting point is 00:29:31 when he's walking away with just that book. So what happened is, is that like in his imagination, he was gonna like interview the author of a number of books about this subject and make them all look dumb. But the only one he managed to get was the chick who wrote White Fragility. Everybody else was like, no, you're clearly Matt Walsh making a fucking movie or whatever.
Starting point is 00:29:50 And so he acts like that's the only one he ever bought from that point on. Yeah, I like to think that he was just too cheap, right? Because we watched him with the big stack. And I think she got up there and she was like, great, $437. And he was like, Which is the shortest? was like which is the shortest which of these is the shortest there's no offense to white fragility like I said great book but it's 192 pages long right six fucking hours on audio for
Starting point is 00:30:13 white people to read yeah right it's meant for Matt Walsh to read it's this tiny-ass little book that would not take Matt Walsh long to read and internalize and yet he doesn't yeah so okay but then we watch him pretend to read and internalize. And yet he doesn't. Yeah. So, OK. But then we watch him pretend to read. We watch him like imagine a little character running across the top of the letters or whatever it is that he's doing. Oh, it's so funny.
Starting point is 00:30:34 It's just a bunch of really great quotes from the book that Matt Walsh think are nonsense, but are just great quotes from the book. At one point, he reads her quote like anger, fear and guilt are compensating for for white supremacy and it's it's literally this movie. She's describing this movie Right, she might as well say and sometimes you make a whole movie where you pretend to not understand Very basic concepts about other people's lived experience just so you don't have to think about your privilege
Starting point is 00:31:01 Holy shit, Robin D'Angelo stepping out of the page just so you don't have to think about your privilege. Right. Robin D'Angelo stepping out of the page. How did you get that? So, right. One of the quotes, and this is such a good quote, she says, whiteness only exists in relation to white supremacy. And that's true, right?
Starting point is 00:31:12 That's supposed to sound scary, but it's a demonstrable historical fact. The idea of being white was created alongside the idea of white being the supreme race. There's no way to separate those two things. And that very fact is the one that he's gonna spend the entire movie running from. His unwillingness to acknowledge the context of that quote is the movie. But then we watch him go to an anti-racist support group.
Starting point is 00:31:39 Well, it's a workshop. Sure. He hired this lady to give a workshop and he was gonna show up as Matt Walsh and ask a bunch of gotcha questions and get her right now First he has to explain that she charged $30,000 to run this workshop, so you know a lot of money in it off, so he does this every time I'm so happy every time he puts the money up. I'm like nice. He spent money on it. So far because every time I'm so happy like I'm sorry that everyone involved had an unpleasant
Starting point is 00:32:10 experience. We'll talk about it in a second. But like every time he puts up a big amount of money, I'm like, hey, Matt Walsh paid someone thirty thousand dollars to call him a douchebag. So well, I don't know much money on carroted nine eleven every year. It's but bad example. Look, physics professors get paid to talk about physics, right? Like Neil deGrasse Tyson gets a lot of money when he goes and does a talk.
Starting point is 00:32:33 Does that mean physics is a scam? I'm sure Matt Walsh is going to do a movie about how physics is a scam. So don't put it in the ether, man. Yeah, I know you're right. Similes and meta. Also, Neil deGrasse Tyson's black. So that's a two-ferfer when it comes to Matt. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:48 So we watched this thing start out. They start with a meditation, like a bunch of cocks. Right. It started with a prayer. He would have been all right, but yeah, no. Of course. Yeah. Also, imagine opening your eyes.
Starting point is 00:32:59 You go to an anti-racist workshop at your local whatever. Imagine opening your eyes and Matt Walsh's thing. Right? And at the beginning of this, he's like, I'm gonna use a fake name because you know, I'm fucking famous. Everybody would be like, oh, it's Matt Walsh. And he wears a COVID mask as he comes in.
Starting point is 00:33:17 So I was like, oh, he's going undercover. Okay. He walks in with the mask, but then he immediately takes off the mask because he's a fucking weirdo who can't wear a mask and he fucks up his whole thing Well, also, I think he desperately wants to be recognized every chance that he has for that But yeah, all right, cuz he thinks he's winning even when this happens. He's right. Yeah, he put it in his own stupid fucking movie So yeah, so but okay
Starting point is 00:33:39 So here's the other thing too that you have to understand about this movie is that Matt Walsh is really bad at comedy So he keeps going into these situations. And like if we were going into this situation, we would be like, okay, so here's three bits that I'm going to do each one escalating. And so like it'll get increasingly ridiculous. He doesn't have anything. So he just keeps interrupting while everyone else is talking, thinking that's comedy. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:02 Right. And it's again, like the the subject of the bit always ends up being him because no one else is behaving in a way that's ridiculous or mockable. Right. They're just speaking normally and giving good answers to questions. So he has to be like, I shat myself while they're talking. Right. And be like, that's a comedy movie. Right. At one point, he'll interrupt them by just dropping shit. Not in this way, it's a later scene. But yeah, yeah, because he's got fucking nothing. You just said my wife again for the third time. So back down. Also, I have to point this out because of the introduction. They show very clearly this speaker at this workshop who is a black woman say that she's not safe in all white spaces.
Starting point is 00:34:42 And they show that a bunch of times because isn't it crazy that she would say she's not safe in all white spaces. And they show that a bunch of times because isn't it crazy that she would say she's not safe in all white spaces, but she's actively being targeted by a white supremacist documentary. Right. Right, you're proving her point by being there. She's not safe. Right.
Starting point is 00:34:59 You tricked her to come to a place to make a movie. Exactly, she can't even. To embarrass and degrade her. she can't even degrade her She can't even do a workshop about trying to help people better themselves without you spending tens of thousands of dollars to make fun Of her for it. Yeah my god She just waves her arm and one camera points at another camera and it's like see this is what I'm talking about Right now Walsh if you said I don't want to go on God awful movies because that's not a safe space for me, we would understand and stop asking.
Starting point is 00:35:30 Right. We'd be like, Oh yeah, no, we are going to talk about what your face looks like under your beard. So I can understand why you wouldn't want to do that. Well, and look, this is because he just starts interrupting when other people are talking and this lady has clearly dealt with asshole and privileged white guys like him before she has a bit that she does for this. She's like very clearly scripted out these lines and everything. Again, proving the point he's trying to make is
Starting point is 00:35:53 incorrect. But then like the equivalent like the on our side of this would be like if we did a movie where like, Eli just goes to a Bible study and starts jerking off in the middle of it, right? Okay, but don't use a super funny example, Noah. Use an example of something that's not clear. Well, yours would be funny. No, that's true.
Starting point is 00:36:10 That would be, yeah, right. And then the person running the thing is like, you're Eli Bosnik, the famous podcaster, masturbating now. Thank you, Ian. Right. I love this. I love this part of the podcast. I lost the backtrack a little bit, but I'm loving it.
Starting point is 00:36:22 I'm ba-ba-ba-ba-ba loving it. Yeah, right? So, and of course, so in these types of workshops, very often they'll have a room to go to if I lost the backtrack a little bit, but I'm loving it. I'm ba-ba-ba-ba-ba loving it. Yeah, right? So, and of course, so in these types of workshops, very often they'll have a room to go to if you're emotionally overwhelmed or if you just feel like you need to get out of the room or whatever. And so he goes into that room pretending that he's overcome or being overcome. Maybe he's just really sad because he thought improvisational comedy would be easier or
Starting point is 00:36:39 whatever. But he goes to the other room, right? Yes. And I'm going to come back. I'm going to come And I'm gonna come back. I'm gonna come back. I'll come back when I've got the abs. I'll come back! Right? But while he's not there, right, they're not gonna film, so they like take a break.
Starting point is 00:36:53 And that's when they figure out that he's Matt Walsh. We literally watched someone Google him and be like, that's Matt Walsh, the douchebag. Yeah. The woman running the thing was already like, I know this is Matt Walsh. As soon as he leaves, I'm gonna explain to everybody. Well, right, like she was very clearly like, she's like, I get what you're fucking doing here and I'm going to give you two more chances to listen to more of what I have to say before I kick you out.
Starting point is 00:37:12 But yes, yeah. But yeah, so he comes back and they've already figured out who he is. Nobody wants to sit next to him. And I guess that's probably something Matt Walsh is used to. Used to. Sure. You know what bothered me in this moment? What's that? I look too much like Matt Walsh is used to. Used to. Sure. You know what bothered me in this moment? What's that?
Starting point is 00:37:25 I look too much like Matt Walsh. You do. I don't a lot, but it's too much. I don't think you do. A little bit, and genuinely all I'm talking about is white guy and he had, I think, the same pair of shoes that I have. I was so fucking mad.
Starting point is 00:37:40 You gotta burn those shoes, man. You gotta burn those shoes. Yep. And so, but he comes back out and they all confront him and they're like, hey, you know, you're just doing a video thing to make fun of us and everything. Can you leave? And they're incredibly polite. Like he deserves to be punched in the face, right?
Starting point is 00:37:55 Like they- It's so funny. There's this fucking incredible moment. Can I talk about the guy who offers to walk him out? Yeah, yeah. Because it makes me so happy, right? Because he's obviously a threat in the room. They don't know what the fuck he's gonna do, right? He's created a fucking fake documentary, right?
Starting point is 00:38:09 He could try and splash them all with Nickelodeon ooze for they know. And so the white guy, the person of most privilege in the room, puts his body in front of Matt Walsh, extends his hand for a handshake and says, I'd like to offer to walk you out. Which is an excellent way to keep the people around you safe without being threatening. Yep. And Matt Walsh, who is a chicken shit little baby boy, goes, I do not consent to be touched.
Starting point is 00:38:36 Nope. Do you know how much money you would have to pay me to film me saying, I do not consent to be touched, and then showing it to the world so that your army of bodyguards can come defend you from an anti-racist speaker group? Do you know the millions of dollars you'd have to pour into my checking account every week at the exact same time for me to allow such a disgraceful moment of cockledry to appear before the American public. Oh my fucking God. And then they call the cops on them, they show them outside being talked to by the police, and he goes in voiceover, he goes, my mere presence had so disturbed them that they called
Starting point is 00:39:24 the police. And I'm like, no, you interrupted them and acted like an asshole and kept preventing them from doing the group that they wanted to do. And then you wouldn't leave the room when they asked you to man. Yes. The unauthorized film crew once they figured out what you're doing the privacy fraud for a support group it feels like a whole bunch of cop stuff is pretty legitimate right there. Yes absolutely but this is but of course the VO is there to explain that he's going to need a disguise from this point and he's going to try to look like the liberal cock from What is a Woman? The other movie.
Starting point is 00:39:57 Remember my other movie? He lost! Okay, think about this. He lost the debate so hard in his last movie that he's dressing up as that person in this movie as a gotcha. Yep. All right, well, I need a room to step off and cry in as well. So we're gonna take another quick break,
Starting point is 00:40:15 but we'll be back in a minute with even more of, am I racist? Yes. This show is sponsored by BetterHelp. Hey podcast listener, I'm No IllHelp. Hey, by guest listener. I have no illusions. I'm Heath Enright. And I'm Eli Bosnik.
Starting point is 00:40:28 But if we're being honest, this part of the show isn't for you. No, it's not. This part of the show is for Matt Walsh. Hey, Matt. How's it going? Hey, your face. Keith, what did we say when we were talking about directing? You haven't started yet.
Starting point is 00:40:42 It doesn't count. I'm allowed to do it. Okay, well now I'm starting. Okay. I'm starting. So start then. Right. So hi Matt. We know you're listening because this is about you and we here at Puzzle in a Thunderstorm would love, and I do mean love, for you to go to therapy. Not whatever Christian version of it you do right now. We'd like you to see a licensed and qualified mental health professional. Not on camera, not as a bit. We just want you to get help. Yeah, mental health professional. Not on camera, not as a bit. We just want you to get help.
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Starting point is 00:41:49 Yeah, no, that is true. Yeah. Hey, editor guys. Hey, Matt Walsh. How's it going? Fantastic. So how's editing my super funny Borat movie going? Yeah, about that.
Starting point is 00:42:01 So, Matt, do you know what made Borat funny? My wife. No, no, it wasn't that it's that the character of Borat was used to expose people's hypocrisy Right like Sasha Baron Cohen would pretend not to know about people's beliefs and then in attempting to explain them You know people would embarrass themselves. Yeah, just like I did. Nope. No what you did is ask attempting to explain them, you know, people would embarrass themselves. Yeah, just like I did. Nope. No, what you did is ask people to explain and then they did. And then you repeated it back.
Starting point is 00:42:33 But just obviously incorrectly. You see how that's different, right? No, I do not see that. Okay, but well, because the person who didn't know what they were talking about is you. Right. The joke is on you, Matt. You are the person who doesn't get it in your movie. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Yeah. So you want to like, recut it or edit or what do you want to do? Oh, no, it shouldn't be a problem because, you know, the people watching the movie don't get that they don't get it. So my not getting it is just them. They're gonna love it. They're gonna love it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:13 Oh, yeah. Big time. Oh, okay. Well, he wants to keep the very real moments where you, Matt Walsh, literally burst into tears. Oh, yes, please. It's kind of a note I'm leaving! For people! Sure.
Starting point is 00:43:30 Alright, yeah, I mean, we'll keep the crying. Keep the crying, yeah. Got it. Oh, I hope you're right. I hope I'm right. And we're back for more of this shit, and we're going to rejoin the action with a montage of him pretending to try to be less of an asshole Yeah, and they're playing a pro racism rap. What? Yeah, uh-huh. This is the same rapper. I look I don't know this but I believe it in my heart This is the same rapper who did the facts don't care about your feelings rap. I'm guessing this is one of his b-size probably. Yeah
Starting point is 00:44:05 But yeah, so this is where he's gonna to earn his DEI certification. And now he's going to pretend for the rest of the movie like that's nothing and it's just completely meaningless. But that's only because he actively refused to pay attention in the class. Like the lady who gave it to him gave him like clearly a very like detailed lecture and probably multiple ones, right? Yeah, and probably had answers for all of the questions that he asks and then we don't see her answer to. Right, right, well, yes, because she's like, at one point,
Starting point is 00:44:35 she's explaining something to him and he's like, well, wait a minute, didn't Martin Luther King say we should judge a person not by the color of the skin, but the content of the character? And of course, he's trying to make the colorblind argument, which he's going to make over and over again in the movie. And she's like, yes, he did. Um, it turns out that we have learned more than nothing since 1963 as it turns out.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Yeah, right. Yeah. Every single time. Let me explain a little bit of the nuance cut. Yep. That's what happened. That's the whole movie. Well, yeah, except that a lot of the times he doesn't realize when the nuance is getting in there because he's so fucking stupid. and so they Actually do answer stupid questions as often as they can yeah the whiteboard answers some of this quiz They show this whiteboard that's full of all the things that she's talked about and answers to his questions
Starting point is 00:45:17 And if you know about this stuff you can kind of see the questions He's asked and see how she answered them for him, And he shows none of it in the movie, right? But it's just like him losing it hangman and tic-tac-toe is a solved game. And no, you can't touch my hair written all over the board. Nuh-uh-uh-uh-uh. Nuance, that's you. You sound like that.
Starting point is 00:45:38 Why's it gotta be a whiteboard? It's so stupid. Yes, yeah, that we can all agree on, I do believe. Yeah, so but he gets his DEI all agree. And I do believe. Yeah. So but he gets his DEI certification. So then we get him walking down the street and just turn into people saying, DEI certified, if you need any help with that.
Starting point is 00:45:53 And that's what he wants. So he does it 11 fucking times. Yeah, that's a rule of 11. And then he tries to do some man on the streeting with people. Uh huh. Right. And for the most part, people give him relatively good answers to their questions, or they're just sort of awkwardly chuckling because he asks nonsense questions, except for the trio of white boys who get exactly as offended by him as he is offended by the thing.
Starting point is 00:46:21 It's fucking, it's an ouroboros of idiocy. It's insane ouroboros of idiocy, right? Because he's pretending to be what he thinks DEI is, and these white boys get offended by that. But it's just white people being wrong in all the directions. There's nobody but him. But they're supposed to be the voice of reason here, according to him. That's the thing.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Three white guys wearing fucking tilted visors and Ed Hardy shirts To give a speech about racism on the street is the voice of reason. Yeah, and right there like don't talk about it Yeah, their claim is thinking about race is racist. So you're racist right acknowledging a person's race is racist That's the dumbest thing thinking about oncology is murdering people with tumors same thing You ever notice that? You ever notice that? Everyone who dies of cancer sees an oncologist. Well, and think about what's actually happening, right? Because he's going out there and presenting our argument intentionally, incorrectly, and stupidly, and then having someone argue back and win. Right? That's his end goal. And this is the best he could get were these three racist assholes. It's fantastic. So and oh, and then I think probably he loses
Starting point is 00:47:35 the movie harder than you'll ever lose it again. So there's this viral video and I've never heard of it because I don't watch Fox News and freak out about this dumb shit. But it's a viral video where some African-American girl in a college yelled at some white guys for invading a multicultural space, right? For very purposefully sitting in a multicultural space, wearing Back the Blue and Blue Lives Matter merchandise. OK, I didn't realize that. But yeah, yeah, right. Like intentionally edging their way into a space they're unwelcome in that was set aside for people who weren't to them, right?
Starting point is 00:48:07 and she is hysterically yelling at them in the tiny piece of the Contextless clip that he shows us and he's gonna interview that girl now and she is So fucking articulate and knowledgeable and she has such good answers to literally everything he fucking says. Oh my god. It's pretty fun. Okay, I have to talk about this thing that she talks about that makes me so happy. So she's bringing up the Jungian shadow self, right? Which is something that gets brought up in race theory a lot. You lost me.
Starting point is 00:48:37 And he thinks she means interdimensional doppelganger. Yes, he does. Yep. Right? Sure the fuck does. So what Young talks about, and I'm sure this young lady explained it to him and Matt Walsh was just, you know, crying or vomiting slowly into his beard or something.
Starting point is 00:48:55 So we don't see her do it. But what Young talks about, he talks about there are parts of ourselves that we like kind of ignore so that we can continue to think of ourselves as a good person. All of his follow-up questions about the shadow self will be like, we like kind of ignore so that we can continue to think of ourselves as a good person. All of his follow up questions about the shadow self will be like, but what if I get the shadow
Starting point is 00:49:09 self to say my name backwards? Does it then absorb back into the Solgoth dimension? I'm splitting half. What if shadow self is bottom half, just legs? That doesn't even make sense. Yeah, right, right. And also we should point out that he says like, you know, she didn't want to talk to me, but for money she did. And I'm like, yep, that's how we know plumbing is bullshit too, man.
Starting point is 00:49:31 That's right. It must be why you're giving away this movie for free to prove that it's real. And is agreeing to appear on our podcast for free, right man? He's not welcome. We don't actually want you on the podcast. You're not welcome on our podcast. I'd hit you in my car. Yeah Consensually is it legal if I say it is legal it is it is legal to offer
Starting point is 00:49:51 Yeah, it's an offer to hit somebody with your car. Yeah, that's just Listening you are welcome on this podcast. I have a studio in Ann Arbor. You should definitely come you should come into it It's not my garage I do not have a sauce scenario set up in my garage. It's normal. Just come down. Who said that? Please. I make labyrinths as a hobby. Yeah, it is all.
Starting point is 00:50:14 It's a normal face bear trap. But again, you know, he asks her like, is racism inherent to whiteness? And he thinks that's a gotcha question because like he refuses to understand her answer. But the answer is yes. And there is a really good reason why it's yes if you shut the fuck up and let somebody tell it to you, right? Right. Which is because again, racism in Matt's mind means hating another person because of the
Starting point is 00:50:47 color of their skin. Right. Right. So the question he thinks he's asking is, do all white people hate people with different colored skin than them? And the answer to that question is probably not. Yes. But that's not what racism is.
Starting point is 00:51:04 And that's not what whiteness is. So you only have to misunderstand two of the four words. Yes. Great example of racism, willfully ignoring somebody explaining how race works. Oh my God, that's crazy. Yeah, and doing a movie about it. Well, so, and look, we should probably acknowledge
Starting point is 00:51:21 that in a sense, the conversation about race often gets caught up on the fact that the word racism is trying to do too much work, right? Because so many white people, especially older white people, think of racism as standing on the street corner, screaming the N-word, and a black girl trying to go to school, right?
Starting point is 00:51:38 And that's what they think they're being called when you say, man, that was a really racist thing to say. I didn't go down to the corner. Right, exactly, exactly. I just yelled it from the window. Right, and as Robin D'Angelo has pointed out, man, that was a really racist thing to say. I didn't go down to the corner. Right, exactly. I just yelled it from the window. Right. And as Robin DiAngelo has pointed out, the way that white people sort of get
Starting point is 00:51:51 over the generational divide between pre-civil rights white people who still exist and are still alive and were the parents of those people and post-civil rights white people is they defined racism only as yes, pre civil rights racism. Right, exactly. Right, right. And that's why the guy like, yeah, no, it's not an innate that the problem isn't inherent to the conversation. The problem is a product of white people trying to narrow down the definition of racism so that it doesn't encapsulate them. Yes, exactly.
Starting point is 00:52:22 And again, that's what this woman is answering to him over and over again, and even just showing like 11 words of her answer is too much and she nails it. Sorry, I know this is comedy murder here that I'm doing, but we have to at least acknowledge that. So just for your uncle's next Facebook post, we give we give all sorts of kinds here. Yeah. If you're bored, imagine Matt trying to get out of a very basic saw trap. You know, that'll carry you through the explanation parts of the review, everybody. It's for normal bears. Taste it. So, okay. Then we get the dumbass montage where they have their petition to change the name of the George Washington monument to the George Floyd monument.
Starting point is 00:52:59 And everyone's saying yes. We should do that. Yes. Yeah. Like, that sounds like a great idea. Sure. Not have it named after the slave owner guy. But and this movie actually is funny once when they say they're we're going to paint it black and make it 30% bigger. That's funny.
Starting point is 00:53:17 That's great. That actually was a good joke. The only time in the movie where he nails it. Single joke. But what about the person who gives the correct answer, which is that that is ridiculous and you shouldn't do it. What's the silliest possible human we could get? He's literally a biker with the Punisher skull on his symbol.
Starting point is 00:53:39 On his shirt. A guy who bought his entire outfit at a truck stop represents... No, imagine making a whole fucking movie to emphasize that you're on the same side as those assholes. As the person Bruce Willis beats up at the beginning of the movie to prove that he's a badass. Jesus Christ. And then we go to... he infiltrates this race to dinner meetup.
Starting point is 00:54:09 Regina Jackson and Sarah Rowe. Okay. I'm trying to think of a metaphor of like who you could try to make seem menacing in our movement. It would be like if you only showed Jeff Blackwell in sepia Jeff Blackwell lawyer for American atheists is just him eating a hoagie being like you guys want a bite To try to make race to dinner
Starting point is 00:54:43 Scary he sells race to dinner which by the way are usually free events. People pay for them. They're often put on by communities and stuff, but they're usually free events so that people can address their own privilege and ask the questions that Matt Walsh pretends he wants to ask. Right. Right? They're the sweetest, best, most comfortable form of out...
Starting point is 00:55:03 It's literally free dinner. They give you a free dinner to learn. You know that thing there's no such thing as? Yeah, it's that, right. So, well, okay, and also like he starts off by going like, well, I can't get in because that's only for white women. And I'm like, oh my God, he's gonna pretend to be trans. When he's dressed up as a woman.
Starting point is 00:55:20 When he's dressed up as a woman. If he dresses up in drag, oh, nope. He didn't, he didn't. They had a fight about it in the room. They had a fight about it and he cried. He started beating himself up in drag. If he dresses up in drag, oh no. He didn't. He didn't. They had a fight about it in the room. They had a fight about it and he cried. He started beating himself up, yeah. Yeah, but he does manage to infiltrate as a waiter. So his entire bit is gonna be them trying to do this anti-racism outreach
Starting point is 00:55:40 and him fucking it up by being a bad waiter. Right, but it doesn't work because him being a bad waiter doesn't change the quality of their arguments? Yep. In any way. Yes, exactly. And so they just make really good points over and over again while he tries to give people too much butter or spills the water.
Starting point is 00:56:00 I fell in the wall. I dropped something. Seriously, race to dinner should be required as a program before you're allowed to vote. Like that should be a rule, like a law that it looked like an amazing thing. I would like as I was watching it and I was like, oh, that's probably a really, really useful because they can't you know, because they they're showing all of these clips and they've, you know, they're taking all the nuance out of it. But there's several points where these women are sort of just berating these women for their whiteness in a way that like, I think white people should fucking experience, right? Like so that you have at least some fucking clue what it's like to be judged by your goddamn race. And it's a volunteer thing, right? It's
Starting point is 00:56:38 like that not like they're walking out there and yelling at random people like this. That would be like the people that should walk out and yell at random people like this. That would be like the people that I think should walk out and yell at random. Agrees with you. Why people should get yelled at by people who have better ideas than them. Yeah, that's good. And also, like, people aren't having a bad time there. You see there, everyone is there to learn. Everyone is interested. Everyone is there.
Starting point is 00:56:58 Except Matt Walsh. Except Matt Walsh. And he is compensating for the things he's hearing by literally throwing dishes around the room. He does. He's just dropping stuff. That's it. At one point, he drops a big pile of plates and frightens everybody, right? Because it sounds like a gunshot. And there's just this group of middle-aged women grabbing and clutching at their chests.
Starting point is 00:57:19 And I'm like, is this... am I supposed to be laughing at this? Satire. Yeah. It was supposed to be a joke cuz Dropping stuff is a joke. I don't know. But here's the thing Matt Walsh does need an Infomercial about the like race. Oh manic get So here's race the dinner is not the thing that Matt Walsh is afraid it is, but I wish it was and I want him to go there. Yes. Right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:49 Race to dinner is a relatively gentle conversation while you get a free meal with two educators who are prepared to help you confront hard truths. No, I want the clockwork orange. Yeah, if it was clockwork, as you beat me exactly to it. Clockwork orange slices. I wish it was and it's not. Yeah. Well, and what's amazing too is like at this point
Starting point is 00:58:07 Of course all of the women who are attending the race to dinner are turning to the them going like hey is he like Some right-wing jackass making a mockumentary about this or something, you know, I think they call them out almost immediately He gets caught I would say nine out of ten of the Boratzi attempts. Someone's like, hey man, you seem like a right winger trying to do satire, but quality of humor is empathy and you don't have any. So is that what it is? And he's like, no. No.
Starting point is 00:58:36 Why does he keep putting it in the movie? I dropped this. Yeah. So, but he does that and then he like raises a toast to racism before he leaves to make fun of him. But now we're going to go, we're going to hear from some everyday Americans. Okay. Okay.
Starting point is 00:58:53 Well, okay. There's no, I could not have forced him at gunpoint to choose a group of people to represent his viewpoint more cruel to his viewpoint to literally the music cue I do for our co-host Lucinda illusions that Noah cuts out of the show yeah they do and and it's a they go to a biker bar filled with Confederate flags it's's crazy. He's like, all right, so I want to learn about not being racist. I'm going to go to white America. That's his first thing he does. Walk into a biker bar, giant Confederate flag.
Starting point is 00:59:37 Your movie, again, called Am I Racist, now has the N-word and multiple Confederate flags in it. I think a decent clue about the answer to the question, man. Yeah. So, and then he's talking to what he seems to think are every man guys, like these are Klansmen, right? And they're all going like, well, I don't think racism's a big problem in this country. And I'm like, you're drinking underneath the Confederate flag
Starting point is 01:00:05 Yeah, the best they muster is the colorblind argument, which is after you get you cheat me kid And by the way, that's how they said like Eli is exaggerate or not. I don't even know if it's The guy is so inaudible that they start giving him subtitles eventually Yeah, Nima Toad is my favorite person and I want him to be a full time The guy is so inaudible that they start giving him subtitles eventually. Yeah. Nematode is my favorite person and I want him to be a full time. You know how Tucker Carlson got fired? They should just put Nematode in. He should be like, I don't know about that.
Starting point is 01:00:34 The subtitles were just like banjo banjo banjo. I don't know what he's saying. We should point out too that he goes to this bar at like 2 30 in the afternoon. These are people who are shit face drunk at a racism themed bar at 2 30 in the afternoon. And he's like, every day Americans see. I feel like that's actually fair.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Right. Do you think you guys have a better grip on racism than all the experts on that topic and they're like, and he's like, yup, I'm going to put you on the TV and show you to America. What about systemic racism? What's that s word? I want to be clear that when Noah said these are Klansmen, one of the people in this interview literally says my dad and my grandfather were Klansmen, but it never affected me. Yep. Those are words.
Starting point is 01:01:27 Wait, one of the guys who's talking about how racist he isn't in explaining how racist he isn't says quote, I think you should have pride in being white too, end quote. Yeah. Also at one point, because they only have one lady and she's not allowed to talk because it's a Daily Wire movie, at one point, because they only have one lady and she's not allowed to talk because it's a Daily Wire movie, at one point he says systematic, she goes, what's systematic? You watch everyone at the bar be like, I wouldn't be here if I knew. Kelsey with a GH. So and they explain how they have some of their best friends are black, literally like one of them has a whole, I have some of my best friends are black conversation
Starting point is 01:02:08 here. And the voiceover goes, well, I don't know. I just don't understand it. These people are all supposed to be racist. And I'm like, what the people who are saying racist things at the racism themed bar they're drinking at were supposed to be racist? Okay. So many times as I was watching this, I had the voice of Ron Howard come in.
Starting point is 01:02:24 It's like, some of my best friends are black people. They're not. Like so many times. Am I racist? He is. He is racist. He was. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:33 Yeah. So then, okay, then he goes to the rural South to find any single black guy who will agree with the premise of this movie, right? And like at one point we're talking, he's talking to this very clearly undereducated man with no employment prospects next to his dilapidated housing. And he's saying, well, yeah, no, I'm unaffected by racism personally though. Me, I don't, you know.
Starting point is 01:02:57 Yes. He finds that guy and he finds a guy who quite literally does not speak good enough English to disagree with him. So, okay. So we're talking about the generational effects of American racism. And to refute that, he goes to a first generation immigrant. Yeah. Take all the time with that that you need. Right. And he's like, hey, has anyone ever been racist to you? And he's like, no.
Starting point is 01:03:21 And he's like, perfect. Well, I think that's answers. And what he's like, what about what it says in all these books? He goes, oh, I don't read books. And it's like, perfect. Well, I think that's answered. And he's like, what about what it says in all these books? He goes, oh, I don't read books. And it's like, oh, and that's it. We're done with this. He says, I just read the Bible. I have it in my car. And Matt Walsh is like, yes, you refute Robin DiAngelo.
Starting point is 01:03:38 Yes. Right. Right. All of these experts, the lady that had a P.H. goddamn fucking D in the exact subject that your movie is about, you just refuted him with the guy who'd never read a book that wasn't the Bible. Well done, man. But they're both black, so it's a tie. It's a tie, yeah, right, right.
Starting point is 01:03:57 And he has the racist guy at the racism bar saying, he's not racist, so he wins the tie. That's the tiebreaker. And then he obsesses over this viral video of a Disney mascot not shaking the hands of two black kids in a thing. I guess this is another thing that the Fox News viewers got themselves worked up about the Daily Wire viewers know about. This is such a very obvious thing. There were two little girls who were in Sesame World or whatever and the
Starting point is 01:04:25 person in the costume very clearly ignores them. You see it in the fucking movie and the mom was like, hey, that sucked. And Sesame World was like, hey, I'm really sorry that happened to you. And he's like, how do you know that was racist? Well, okay. So I think the argument that they try that the racists try to make in defense of the person in the mascot costume is they Didn't see the little kids right because the eyes on those things are very high up and sometimes you can't see what's right below You and that's true. I've been in those costumes. I've been a mascot in those costumes before I can't come if I'm not in one Exactly. Well, right. That's why um, so but but here's the thing though your job. I can't come if Eli's not
Starting point is 01:05:03 But here's the thing though, your job... I can't come if Eli's not in one of these. But the thing is that when you're in those things, your job is to notice little kids. And we can see in the video that the person in the costume, the mascot costume, does a sweep and sees what's below. So even their dumbass excuse doesn't add up. Anyway, and also, by the way, if they were right, if they were right in that the mascot genuinely just didn't see those two kids, the answer here should be, wow, we have so abused this segment of our society that the simplest explanation they could come up with in this moment was racism. racism. Right. Right. That should be your takeaway from that is that this woman has been beaten down by racism so much in her life that that was her go-to explanation, even if it was wrong. Yes. So and he goes like, you know, she didn't want to talk to me, but she was willing to tell
Starting point is 01:05:56 her story for money. And then they have like a ching sound, you know, and I'm like, dude, the fact that no one will talk to you without thousands of dollars in compensation is not the burn on them that you think it is. Exactly. It's because you can't come unless you're in a man's costume. I've been there. Now, what I'm saying is you and I are the same, Matt. Give us a call. Come be in the bear trap. All right. Well, it's rare that we earned a break as much as we did during this fucking movie. So we're going to take another one, but first let me give Act 3 the hard sell.
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Starting point is 01:08:47 from us I worry people will forget the ads are scripted you guys are scripted I was really smoking a bowl it's true he was method and now back to America's favorite game show. Is it real? Hello and welcome to Is It Real? A game show that puts true things about the universe against an idiot's understanding of those things. I'm your host Chet Chetley and my guest tonight is astrophysicist Mark Haskell. Thanks for having me Chet. Yup yup and our contestant tonight right wing show, Scott Balls.
Starting point is 01:09:24 Pleasure to be here, Chet. So why don't you tell us a bit about your work, Mark? Sure, yeah, well I study the effect gravitational fields have on large objects in space and how we can detect those gravitational fields from millions of miles away. Fantastic. Scott? It sounds fake to me. There isn't gravity in space.
Starting point is 01:09:44 Everybody knows that. Nope, no. There isn't gravity in space. Everybody knows that. Nope. No. There is definitely gravity in space, but sometimes you see less gravity in movies and TV. No, I don't think that's it. That sounds fake to me.
Starting point is 01:09:56 Oh, Mark, you're not doing well. Have you got anything for us? Okay, sorry. The fact that he doesn't understand doesn't make my field of study less real. I mean, I think it does. That's fine. I guess you can think whatever you want, but fields of expertise exist whether or not you believe in them.
Starting point is 01:10:14 Knowledge isn't democratic, especially when that ignorance is very obviously willful. La la la, I can't hear you. Oh, I'm afraid he can't hear you, Mark, and that means we're done for today. This is why half the country votes for Trump. Sure the fuck is, Mark. It sure the fuck is. Thanks for joining us, and as we always say here on Is It Real, knowing things that other people don't is mean.
Starting point is 01:10:38 See you next week! And we're back for still more of this shit and we're gonna rejoin Matt Trying to convince us that hate crimes are just something the news made up to sell more news Yeah, because one time a hate crime was a hoax ever Yep That he has one time and one time maybe a hate crime Maybe was a hoax like nine goddamn minutes of this movie are gonna be dedicated to the jussie smollett thing Right. Yeah, or a thousand hate crimes or hoax. It doesn't matter. That's that's nothing No, because the guy he interviews here like he's like hate crimes. That's bullshit. And then he interviews this guy who's like
Starting point is 01:11:17 Well, yeah, no, there are thousands of hate crimes every year in America Yes the argument made by the anti hate crime part of the movie is there's just seven thousand hate crimes a year. Yeah, well that's not even one an hour quite. Just. Also, Jussie Smollett was lying. Okay, like what?
Starting point is 01:11:37 Right. I have one note for Jussie. Don't get caught. That's it. It's a terrible job of not getting caught that you did. Also, by the way, I looked this up. I couldn't find any source that agreed with that 7,000 number. The number I was finding was closer to 14,000.
Starting point is 01:11:52 Mm-hmm. So, but regardless, like 7,000, like, you know, like, you know, that's what, a third as many as there are murders. Are you going to say, well, you know, it's not really that many murders compared to all the millions and millions of thefts. So what are we doing? You know, what the fuck are we even talking about here? But yeah, this guy, this is Wilford Riley.
Starting point is 01:12:12 Fun fact, his 2017 book, the $50 million question and engagingly empirical examination of the relationship between privilege and pride has a five star average on Amazon averaged out over all one reviews. Hey, that's pretty easy to ruin. Good for you. Oh, no. So and this guy looks so he makes this argument. He's like, oh, you know, it's only seven thousand hate crimes here compared to the millions and millions of non hate crimes.
Starting point is 01:12:40 I hate crimes are not even a problem. He says, you know, if we really wanted to solve problems, maybe the news, instead of covering all these hate crimes and hate crimes are not even a problem. He says, you know, if we really wanted to solve problems, maybe the news instead of covering all these hate crimes would cover things like black on black violence and addiction in white neighborhoods. Hey, everyone, if you ever hear the words black on black violence, they should be the snake rattle of human personalities
Starting point is 01:13:01 for you, okay? Yes. No honest person in the history of the world has ever said black on black violence. Also, is his premise that the fucking news doesn't talk about violent black criminals and addiction in white neighborhoods? Is that really your fucking premise here? Yeah. Jesus Christ. Watch a news. Right. The funny thing about the black on black violence myth, and we could talk about it for another like nine hours. So I'll try and keep it short, is that it's always white people complaining about how they're not hearing about black on black violence.
Starting point is 01:13:37 But it's because as a white person, you need to hear about white on black violence because that's the violence you are doing. Yep. Yeah, exactly. You're not doing black on black violence. Black people hear a tremendous amount about black on black violence. It's what a bunch of their community building and community fostering talks about. You don't hear about it because you're a racist white person who needs to hear about white and black violence. Well but also because you're a racist
Starting point is 01:14:08 asshole who won't listen to anything if a white person isn't the victim right like have a black woman and a white woman get kidnapped at the same time and see who gets all the news coverage right like that's the other fucking thing that yet like like you said we could do nine hours on this one. I didn't even hear half of what you said just now All he knows is that a white woman was kidnapped That's right. Yep. Yeah, exactly. Where was walking that day? So then we have this moment where we we recreate the
Starting point is 01:14:44 Jussie Smollett story with Matt Walsh in the movie Yeah, I don't know what the fuck this was supposed to be like like cuz he goes into it going, you know the Jussie Smollett story with Matt Walsh in the movie? Yeah. I don't know what the fuck this was supposed to be, like, cause he goes into it going, you know, they keep saying the world is unsafe for black people, but Jussie Smollett was lying. So who's, you know, where lies the truth? Who is he arguing with?
Starting point is 01:14:59 I don't know. Yeah. Also like, Matt, do you want me to get out some real stories of hate crimes that black people have gone through in this country? Yeah. To like Matt, do you want me to get out some real stories of hate crimes that black people have gone through in this country? Yeah. To like counter yours? Because it's going to change the rating of your movie, Mike. Even by your guys standard, there's 7,000 of them here. Like, I mean, come on. But also, like, the statistics on life expectancy tell the whole fucking story. We don't need to go to like anecdotes to prove that it is unsafe to be black in America.
Starting point is 01:15:33 You can just look at the fucking life expectancy statistics. Jesus. Yeah. And again, like living in the world that we do where there have been so many hate crimes against people of color, right? Especially when we have like a history built on the brutalization of black people I don't want to take us too far from comedy town because we got a little bit of vertigo But like doing this is really revolting, right? Yeah
Starting point is 01:15:58 It would be like if one guy had lied about what had happened to him at the Holocaust Something that happened and then standing outside of Auschwitz and being like, Look at me! I'm Moishe! I had such a hard time in the Holocaust! You know? Like... It is though! No, it really genuinely is. It's a real history there. I made it Jewish so I could do that voice and it'd stay fun. I think I made good choices.
Starting point is 01:16:23 Matt, stop trying to hire... Sorry, Matt's texting me to try and hire me for this next movie. He's like, no, that actually was a pretty good bet. I was getting new numbers. I was like, that's actually a great job. Do I have to pay him if I make that movie now? So that sketch you made when you were at NYU. So. So, yeah. So but now it's time for his big interview that he's been building up for the whole movie.
Starting point is 01:16:42 He's going to interview Robin D'Angelo, the author of White Fragility. Now let me give you a TLDR on this book. If you haven't read it, it's this entire movie summarized by an academic. It's a woman saying like, man, you show critical race theory to one conservative and they'll make a movie like this Right like this movie could be the final chapter of her book the see I told you so of white fragility Honestly, and okay now here's the thing right? He has been setting up this whole movie right or at least a part of this movie about this conversation with Robin de Angelo Did you guys fathom before we talk about
Starting point is 01:17:25 actually happens how badly it would go for him? I mean, based on how badly everything else went for him and his inability to notice it. Yes, at this point in the movie, he has genuinely thought he's been winning this whole time. Baffling. I genuinely thought like, oh, Robin DiAngelo must slip up or she must be stumped right? He's building it so hard no, but it's a whole scene of him being like we are not fragile
Starting point is 01:17:52 I'm white and I'm not fragile fuck you Yeah No So let me back up Eli because because they played this up heavily in the Advertisements for the show that he sits down with Robin DiAngelo and yes based on that I assumed exactly the same thing that you did right right? That she must, wow, she must really bomb this, this interview for him to base his entire movie around the fact that he talked to her. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:14 But she like nails every single question to the point where I'm like, my notes are all like, does he think that was a gotcha? Is Robin DiAngelo in charge of the movie? Matt, are you okay? Right. But truly, if Robin had taken the entire movie crew hostage and been in charge of this interview, this interview makes sense. Right. Like starting with the opening question, he goes like, can a white person be non-racist?
Starting point is 01:18:39 Right. And the correct answer to that is no, right? For reasons that you'd understand if you actually fucking read White Vigility. But she goes, she's like, well, I think it's probably better if you think about it on a scale. You can be more or less racist. And I'm like, what a perfect answer to give to a fragile white man. Yeah, that's the thing. He chose an educator on this topic to ask gotcha questions to, but she wrote the book because she has good answers to that topic.
Starting point is 01:19:09 Right. It's why, for instance, Christian apologists don't debate professional atheists, right? They give speeches because we have practiced the answers to their Christian apologetic bullshit, right? It's why when Ray Comfort doesn't ask us, are you a good person? Because we have good answers to that. He asks stone teenagers.
Starting point is 01:19:31 He fucking, are you a good person's, the fucking best person at answering that question? Yes, possibly on the planet. Hey, Matt, this is a bad sign. You should have got Ray Comfort as a consultant on your strategy. Bad news. Just comes back from the Robin DiAngelo interview.
Starting point is 01:19:52 I embarrassed yourself, mate. You embarrassed yourself. Let me give you a banana. Here, take this cucumber and shove it up your ass. There's only one way to save your reputation, man. Well, shove it all the way up your ass. No handles, Matty boy. That'll show him.
Starting point is 01:20:08 Get him. Yeah, no, he asks her at one point, he's like, well, can you opt out of white privilege? And she goes, well, no, but you could use your privilege to lift people up instead of making movies about how they're right where they belong, for example, would be a way you could go with that. I won't do that.
Starting point is 01:20:24 And it's just a tiny moment, but I have to talk about it, right? At one point he does this with a lot of people. He pretends to cry, right? And he's like, he's pretending to be a liberal cuck. So he pretends to cry about how hard it is. And she just holds the space for him so nicely with just genuine empathy and like, doesn't make him a victim and doesn't laugh at him. It doesn't make him a victim and doesn't laugh at him and doesn't mock him.
Starting point is 01:20:45 And you can tell he's like, why aren't you going, eww, right? You're supposed to go, eww. And she's like, no, this you seem to be overwhelmed with emotion. And I'm a human being with empathy. And he's like, no, you're not. She comes across looking so good in this thing. It's impossible. So good.
Starting point is 01:21:06 Like every, and he says, you know, well, shouldn't I be colorblind? She gives this great answer. She's like, no, that's, are you from the sixties? Because that's dumb answer. And here's why. And of course they have to like speedily cut, lest they get too much nuance there. Pulls a dish from inside his jacket pocket and smashes it on the ground. But yeah, so, but he's just losing his movie so badly that he from inside his jacket pocket and smashes it on the ground.
Starting point is 01:21:30 But yeah, so but he's just losing his movies so badly that he calls in a friend. He calls in his black friend, Ben. Oh, Ben. And he asks her to like apologize to Ben for white supremacy. Hey, Ben. Hey, Ben. It's not worth it, man. I know it's hard out there. Job community. I'm from NYU too Ben.
Starting point is 01:21:48 Like it sucks man. But come on Ben. You don't, you don't have to. Come on Ben. As you're better than this Ben. Come on Ben. Don't you see relatives at like family Thanksgiving? Not anymore.
Starting point is 01:22:00 I guess they don't invite you anymore huh? Come on Ben. on, Ben. So Ben. But also, like so. But she fucking nails this, though. She does a really good job. There's also this. Like, so I guess I don't recall this in the book, but she talks about like where white people will oversmile at black people to try to send this like I'm one of the good ones message which comes off as incredibly condescending or whatever and he's making fun of this
Starting point is 01:22:29 because could you believe that if you look at you if you smile at somebody wrong they'll call you racist now right like rather than trying to understand why she's making that point and so he tries to do this role play where he's like okay so like imagine I'm a black guy and I think that you smiled at me too much what would you say and course, she gives a great answer. An amazing answer. And then he's like, what if I thought you didn't smile at me enough? What would you say? And she's like, well, you know, I'd probably ask you, you know, who do you think?
Starting point is 01:22:56 What white person do you know? Who do you think really nails this for you? And I can talk to them about how they approach this. And I'm like, well, that's brilliant. That was I wouldn't have thought of an answer that fucking good. I guess that's why you wrote a goddamn book on this and I fucking didn't. Yeah. Yes.
Starting point is 01:23:11 His whole thing is like, what if a black person made an unreasonable request? And she'd be like, well, then I would respond to them respectfully and I would take their emotions out of the situation so that I could be and do better. And he's like, my friend, Ben is black. I have another plate. Black. Black. Right, so yeah.
Starting point is 01:23:29 Yeah, here's the thing, like making fun of shitty white people being obnoxious, like bad allies, that could be a good angle conversation to have, but not by Matt Walsh. You know who's gonna do that? Anybody else. Like, Donald Glover does a great
Starting point is 01:23:45 job of that in Atlanta. He wrote Atlanta and he makes fun of that a bit. It's great. Just have somebody else do it because you're Matt Walsh and you're going to fuck it up. Everything that you do is terrible and unfunny. Yeah. Let Dinesh D'Souza do it. That would have actually been better. Let's leave the comedy to Dinesh D'Souza and Matt Walsh. Here's a good rule of thumb. If Dinesh D'Souza and Ray Comfort would have made a better movie than yours, you've done something horribly wrong. And I got that feedback on my pornography from Heath, and it was hard to hear,
Starting point is 01:24:14 but I really carried it forward into my future work. Yep, yep. So, and of course, this is the moment where, like, Matt's, he's going to apologize to Ben, too, and he gives him $20 in reparations. Right. And I want to point something out, right? Before I saw this movie, this is the part of the movie that Robin DiAngelo has come out and been like, I was duped, right? So I was prepared for her to be like fooled by this and be like, oh, what a great idea
Starting point is 01:24:38 that is. Like, absolutely. And then happily go to her purse and get some money and be like, oh, she did a silly thing because the man on TV made her do a silly thing. She doesn't do that. She goes, that was fucking weird. Yeah. And she explains why she's like, well, reparations need to be systemic for them to be meaningful. That was, that was just a weird thing you did. And he tries desperately to justify it. And then they try to like make her feel awkward for not also giving him some money and she's like, oh fuck, I'll give you some money. I don't have much cash on me, but here's 30 bucks. I win, right? Like Matt only gave him 20.
Starting point is 01:25:12 She's just being kind, right? What she's doing is she's on TV. She's watching someone make a fool of themselves. That person goes, please, please give the black person money. And she goes, okay, sure. Yeah. That means nothing. And then afterwards she goes, I, please give the black person money. And she goes, okay, sure. Yeah. That means nothing. And then afterwards she goes, I'm going to digest what we've just done here, which is a very obvious statement of that was fucking dumb. Yes. Right. But she's too nice a person to just say that was like she showed herself to be so incredibly empathetic and caring. I was already a fan. Yeah. Right. But He's so incredibly empathetic and caring. I was already a fan.
Starting point is 01:25:43 Yeah. Right? To be clear, two out of three of these podcasts hosts would have fallen for that way harder than Robin DiAngelo. He would have been like, you take PayPal, man. I'm so sorry. I feel like you can go three of three. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:59 There's no fucking way any of us would have handled the whole situation as well as she did. Right? I don't think I think Noah would have just been like, that's fucking stupid. The minute Matt Wall started crying, he'd be like, you're crying and this is stupid. Meanwhile, Heath and I are trying to put on a song for Ben. Three, two, then. All right.
Starting point is 01:26:21 It shouldn't have tap in it. That's worse. We're saying hats off to Botswana. For you, Ben, we love you. We like it there. So all right. Now it's time for Matt Walsh to run his very own anti-racism workshop, right? His do the work workshop. That's what he calls it because he's too dumb to think of anything clever or funny.
Starting point is 01:26:44 This movie is like so accidentally about how talented Sasha Baron Cohen is. Remember when he did the movie where he was gay and they did the man slamming. Yeah, Bruno. Man slam. God, man slam is amazing. That was such a clever fucking title the night of man slamming and it turned gay and all the fucking wrestling fans were freaked out. That was so goddamn brilliant.
Starting point is 01:27:04 And then like he gets to his moment where it's supposed to be like his version of that type of thing. He's just like, I don't know, do the work. Is that lady said that earlier? Workshop. Do you think Sasha would come on our show and do this movie with us as like a director's commentary? Probably not. But yeah, we'll see what we can do. Sasha, if you're listening, I'd love to have you on. Yeah, you actually are welcome. Yeah, you are welcome. And we know saw traps at all. I know sometimes we we lure people in with that promise
Starting point is 01:27:29 We're not luring you in though. No saw traps. So yeah His sketch outside of Ashwood's was pretty funny Again, I would probably Heavily infer that I wanted to be hired by him which would be embarrassed. Yeah, it would be it would be embarrassing for all of us Yeah, and imply it's probably best that I wanted to be hired by him, which would be embarrassing. Yeah, it would be. It would be embarrassing for all of us. Yeah. And imply it's probably best that I'm not. Yeah, I don't think you'd infer it at all. I didn't have it. I so into bait.
Starting point is 01:27:56 So now he's into. So OK, so but now he's doing his little workshop and he's got a bunch of uninterested white people there and he's clearly told them, you know, hey, you know, here's your hundred dollars. You can leave whenever you want. And, and now he's making a bid out of how quickly some of them leave, how uninterested the people are. Right.
Starting point is 01:28:17 Well, and I love that he has to admit in the movie, he's like, so I put up a advertisement for my fake workshop. And nobody came. And also I advertised on Craigslist and offered to pay people and admitted that I was filming it. Yes, right. Yeah. Yep, and admitted that they got to keep the money regardless of how long they stayed.
Starting point is 01:28:35 So a fucking course they all walked out and then did a terrible job, right? So yeah, but he's gonna present his nine point anti-racism plan. Now, guys, we're only gonna to see like five of the points. Imagine how unfunny the other four were that they just got them out of the fucking... This was the gold. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:28:52 And so there was a fun moment for me in the theater when this happened. At the beginning of this scene, he starts his workshop and he's like, hey, everybody, point to the most racist person in the room right now. And me immediately, I was like, it's you, Matt Walsh. And the black women next to me in the theater at the exact same time were like, it's you, Matt. So yeah, so some people dip out that he has this whole like racism is non binary speech, which he thinks is funny because non binary, but it's actually a good point.
Starting point is 01:29:24 You know, accidentally, it's accidentally a good point. He never makes one of those on purpose and it's on our side. But he asks everybody to put like where they think they are on the racism scale on the board. I love that one guy is on the like racism side of the middle. He's like, no, I'm pretty fucking racist. So I'm upsetting. Didn't care medium well racist. Yeah. But yeah. And't care medium. Well, racist. Yeah. But yeah. And then he makes a joke about how black people be carjacking. And then he brings Ben out again
Starting point is 01:29:53 and asks everyone to practice smiling at him nonracistly. And one guy's like, hey, I don't think this is what anti-racism work is. And he again, I want to give him credit for the one funny joke in the movie, moves his number over to the racist side for bringing up an objection. That was genuinely funny. One second. That was the second second in the movie that was entertaining in any way. Yes. But yeah, oh, and I should point out too, this is also, okay, so they do the thing with
Starting point is 01:30:18 Ben and then they bring out his racist uncle Frank so that they can yell at him for being a racist. Right. So call back to earlier in the movie, you remember when he was speaking to the very first lady, the white lady, she was like, hey, you need to confront people when they say racist things because white silence is a huge problem of racism. Right. And she's like, you know, confront your Uncle Frank when he makes racist jokes at dinner. And so this is his Uncle Frank who made a racist joke at dinner. And I could not get out of
Starting point is 01:30:44 my head a better punch up for this scene. So forgive me. We'll get back to making fun of Matt Walsh. But how funny would it have been if he brought out Uncle Frank, talked about his racist joke, and then beat the shit out of Uncle Frank? That's super funny, right? Yeah. No, that's genuinely fucking hilarious actually.
Starting point is 01:31:03 Yeah. So obviously he doesn't do that. So I also want to point out it this way. Like I said, the guy who was in the theater with me, he sat right in front of me. I know it's assigned seating, so you have to buy it in advance, but you know that I'm the only other person in the theater when you walk in and you can just fucking lie, right? You just fucking lie.
Starting point is 01:31:19 I genuinely, I almost bought seat J6 and then I was like, no, no, I'm going to J. It's the two on the nose. But it was at this point that I noted, I wrote my notes that the guy who was in the theater with me had never reacted in any way to anything in this movie. He'd never laughed. He had never like, you know, early on, he would look back at me here and there and give it kind of a nod or whatever.
Starting point is 01:31:42 But other than that, he never reacted to it. He literally hated every moment of it, but he was clearly ideologically bound to enjoy himself. And he was so mad about that. Yeah. Anyway, so yeah, so they tell the racist joke that Uncle Frank told, and then they yell at Uncle Frank for telling it.
Starting point is 01:32:01 Okay, there was one little moment that I laughed at here, too. It was by accident. So Matt Walsh didn't do this. But Uncle Frank laughs at his joke being decided to do it. But I was like, yeah, that's that's just like all the Uncle Franks. I've never seen that. No, you nailed it. And so like this is also the first point in any movie we've ever watched where I accidentally checked my watch twice in the same minute.
Starting point is 01:32:24 Yeah. But so the fight he gets to the final step of his nine step program that we've skipped most of the steps of and that step is self flagellation. Get it? So that's what they're after. Them people of color. Also those whips would not work for self flagellation. They're too long.
Starting point is 01:32:43 They're all bullwhips. It's stupid. They just get the right goddamn whips. Waste of money on bullwhip. Now, nowation. They're too long. They're all bullwhips. It's stupid. They just get the right goddamn whips. We have some money on bullwhip. Now, I know Matt Walsh has a bunch of bullwhips. Right. Obviously. Right.
Starting point is 01:32:52 Because it would have cost less to get the correct whips for this. Well, just for the record, though, sometimes it comes around and hits you back in the front and it does hurt. I just want to let everybody know. Yeah, no, it can. It sure can. It sure can. But yeah, and then like a bunch of other people leave.
Starting point is 01:33:06 And this is where he realizes that things have gone too far and he walks off. Right. Because the whole concept of this movie has been like, no, I really am a leftist, even though all of it's been a got. It's hard to follow because all of it's been a gotcha. But this is supposed to be the like, what if DEI isn't real in my movie? Right. How DEI is? it's just it's it's Meta within stupid right yeah exactly, but this is where his fake I actually want to learn this stuff character breaks down and realizes that maybe it's been bullshit all along
Starting point is 01:33:38 So we get a like a vo he's walking along in the streets And he's going like what have I become and'm like, did you just actually just hear it? But he didn't. He didn't. No, he didn't. So he heads back to the diner where he's wandering around race at the very beginning of the movie and he has the black waitress say his conclusion for him. Well, it's start to, right?
Starting point is 01:34:00 Like he has the flashbacks to the movie and she's like, oh, that's all dumb. I've been paid to say, right? Like he has to he has the flashbacks to the movie and she's like, oh, that's all dumb. I've been paid to say. Right. But then he stands up and he has his big, like I've learned something here today speech, which means that he closes the movie by white explaining racism to a black woman who he's paid not to say anything in response. Yes. And that monologue includes the words, race-baiting con artists.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Yep. Yeah, right, the premise is that racism is a lie sold by big anti-racism to sell more anti-racism. And when he gets done with that, everyone in the diner gives him a slow clap, and I have to point out- Because he paid them to? Well, right, and they fuck up the slow clap.
Starting point is 01:34:45 Like, it's like, how do you fuck up? They just, it's three slow claps and then it's full clap. There's no bills in it whatsoever. No, you have to, you have to build to it. Idiots. I wrote in my notes, like every slow clapping person at the end of this movie is a bad lover. Right? 100%.
Starting point is 01:35:00 You got to do a curve. It has to be. Yes, obviously. They're all looking for the clit on someone's tummy. Yeah So yeah, but then they back away and uncle Frank is telling a racist joke This movie doesn't have the guts to actually do that. So we just see him talking through the window. It actually goes into the tummy All right, it's in like the eyeballs it goes everywhere really it's just always It's like it's got the there's the the spot we're supposed to know about, but
Starting point is 01:35:28 then it's like everywhere apparently on the inside. All right. Well, I guess we can't close this off without answering the title question. So gentlemen, is Matt Walsh racist? Yup. Yeah, very racist. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 01:35:43 That's what I thought. I just figured, you know, because it was a question. Alright, well that's going to do it for our review of AMI Racist. That's not going to do it for the episode just yet though, because we still need to do this again next week. So, Eli, tell us what's on deck. Nana, a Ghanaian immigrant in America, faces a moral dilemma when her quest for legal status leads to an unintended pregnancy and abortion. Haunted by guilt, she encounters a vengeful spirit seeking revenge for the unborn child. We'll be kicking off our Halloween Spooktacular with...
Starting point is 01:36:11 The Clot! Oh Jesus! Yeah! Okay, well with that... Okay, the monster is a fetus? Unborn fetus. That's what it sure fucking reads like. Fantastic. All right. So with that to look forward to, we're going to bring episode 475 to a more simple close. Once again, a huge thanks to all the Patreon donors that help make the show go. If you'd like to count yourself among their ranks, you can win a per episode donation at patreon.com slash got off when they're by early access to an ad free version of every episode. You can also help a ton by leaving a five star review and by sharing the show on all your various social media platforms. And if you enjoyed this show, be sure to check out our sibling shows, the scaling of the citation needed D and D minus and Skeptocrat available wherever podcasts live. If you have
Starting point is 01:36:46 questions comments or cinematic suggestions you can email godolfeofmovies.gmail.com Tim Robertson takes care of our social media our theme song was written and performed by Ryan Slotnik, the reveal of drafts on Mars all the other music was written and performed by our audio engineer Morgan Clark and was used with permission. Thanks again for giving us a chunk of your life this week for Heathen, Ray, and Neelay Bosnick. I'm Neelay Bosnick, I'm an illusionist, promise to work harder, earn another chunk next week. Until then, we'll leave you with the Breakfast Club clothes. Matt Walsh's poster that says, Black Friends 1 got flipped back to zero by Ben. Ben went on to not get invited to family reunions anymore.
Starting point is 01:37:23 Matt Walsh's new documentary, Does My Face Round at the Bottom Like a Baby's Butt, barely lost to Deadpool vs. Wolverine's 875th weekend sea efforts. The preceding podcast was a production of Puzzle and the Thunderstorm LLC copyright 2024 all rights reserved.

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