God Awful Movies - 59: Gam059 Vaxxed

Episode Date: October 4, 2016

On this week's episode, Noah, Heath, and Eli team up with the Scibabe, Yvette D'Entremont, for a skeptical review of Vaxxed: Cover Up to Catastrophe. In this baby-manslaughtering propaganda piece, we learn that some people shouldn't be trusted with medical licenses, others shouldn't be trusted with children, and still others with video cameras and editing equipment. --- If you’d like to make a per episode donation, please check us out on Patreon: http://patreon.com/godawful Our theme music is written and performed by Ryan Slotnick of Evil Giraffes on Mars. If you’d like to hear more, check out their Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/EvilGiraffesOnMars/?fref=ts --- Sources: http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2014/08/28/a-bad-day-for-antivaccinationists-a-retraction-and-the-cdc-whistleblower-issues-a-statement/ https://leftbrainrightbrain.co.uk/2016/03/22/andrew-wakefield-releases-the-trailer-for-his-william-thompson-video-slick-production-and-dishonesty/ http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2014/08/28/a-bad-day-for-antivaccinationists-a-retraction-and-the-cdc-whistleblower-issues-a-statement/ http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2016/05/25/andrew-wakefield-and-del-bigtree-privileged-white-males-harming-african-americans-with-antivaccine-misinformation/ http://lizditz.typepad.com/i_speak_of_dreams/2016/05/who-is-polly-tommey.html http://thinkingmomsrevolution.com/mrs-reed-mrs-schneider-go-washington/ http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/?s=%22Mark+Blaxill%22 https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/andrew-wakefields-vaxxed-antivaccine-propaganda-at-its-most-pernicious/ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luc_Montagnier#Responses.2C_criticisms_and_interview https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dan_Burton#Autism http://www.snopes.com/MEDICAL/DISEASE/cdcwhistleblower.asp http://canaryparty.org/

Hi folks, no illusions here. A couple of quick notes before we start the show. First of all, we're in the middle of upgrading our audio engineering, but the unfortunate result is that on this episode, some stuff was done on a new fancy rig and other stuff on the old ones, so if some parts of the show sound way different than other parts, that's why it'll be cleared up by next week's episode, our apologies, and we appreciate your patience while we're making this upgrade. Secondly, and more importantly, if you listen to our other shows, the Skeptocrat and the

Skating Atheist, you know that we're in the habit of putting out show notes every week for the episode, listing all our sources, where we got our stories, where you can go to learn more, etc. And we've really never needed to do that on this show before because the fact that Steven Baldwin looks like a melting statue of Elvis made out of cheese, that doesn't have a source, it's just objectively true. That's the kind of stuff that you know, you would pull out a mathematical proof for if you had to, I guess. But with this episode, we're dealing with some frauds and liars on a scale

We've never quite addressed before and not only are they frauds and liars But they're also litigious frauds and liars and to be honest We would love these motherfuckers to come after us just so that we could prove in court what frauds and liars They are and also probably make some dick jokes and a court of law and getting trouble But if and when we get there we want to make sure we win so we need to properly cover our bases this week. So along with the usual description of the show and links to our Patreon page and stuff that we usually put in the show notes, this week you'll also find a list of sources and

resources. That'll get me wrong. We're going to give these assholes the thrashing they deserve and if somebody in this movie looks like they're carved out of cheese, we're not going to hesitate to point it out. But we want to make it very clear that we've done our research in these baby killing fraudulent, lying, mother fuckers deserve every moment that's coming to them. And if you too, by the way,

think that killing babies with old-timey diseases is wrong, just wanna remind you that hitting that share button, tweeting, Facebooking, and otherwise getting out this moment by moment, break down to this wet turn of a fucking lying propaganda piece of shit, baby killing movie is a great way to show it. And now on with a show. He was normal and now he's shitty. Like what? It's neurotypical and neurotypical.

You're supposed to, okay. Exactly. By the way, we should point out that this nurse, A, she's not a doctor, like a doctor nurse. I know they're both medicine words, but she went to night school, guys. She's one step above a pharmacist. And she's fucking, she's the head of the quote unquote thinking mom's revolution. Super ironic. They have called me a fake scientist for the record. Oh, I didn't know you were a fake scientist. Oh, good.

Well, I don't even fake orgasms never mind. Not awful. Movie. Welcome back to the Gamcast where each week we sample another selection from bullshit cinema because sometimes non-Christian movies need us to. I'm your host Noah Luzonz and sitting to my immediate left is my good friend, Heath and right. Heath, welcome back. Thank you.

We're all perfectly calm so far. Good. Take it easy. Enjoy it while you get in and sitting 81 miles to my right is my bad friend Eli Bosnick Eli. How are you this fine afternoon, sir? Maybe murdering frog. We made it pretty fun.

Yeah, no, that's the first seconds on in. And of course sitting one goes to my West is our good friend, Yvette Dettrimon, better known as the Sai Baby. That welcome back to the show. Thank you for having me on this lovely afternoon in which I'm fighting off a cold, but I'm ready to be here to fight fucking pseudo science. All right, well, we'll find I might be autism, we'll find out by the end of the show. Now, of course, this is your second time on the show, but this is the first time the

audience is actually going to hear you. So once again, and publicly this time, sorry for making you watch what the bleep do we know for no fucking reason whatsoever. I will eternally hate you for that, but because I adore Eli and the rest of you guys so much, I will forgive you. And because Vax was such a fucking popcorn munching piece of excrement, I was like, okay, I'll do it for Vax. So I believe we've already spilled the beans there, but he's just for the sake of formality. Here, what do we trick you vet into watching with us today?

We all watched, Vaxed, from cover up to catastrophe. Or what I like to call phase one, everyone gets autism, phase three profit. It's, don't know how they connected those dots. Anyway, it's documentary about the anti-vaxxer response to the claim that their movement is causing children to die. And that response is your killing babies you are. We're giving them autism. Yeah, no, we could end it right there, I think, but unfortunately we're not allowed to. So Eli, tell us how bad was this movie?

Well, if you love documentaries, but you hate babies, you're going to love this movie. Now, someone could love babies and just hate, someone could hate babies and just love dead babies. That's true. That's true. That's true. You could love babies, but love dead ones more. It's fun.

Yeah, I might not have given this movie credit. Maybe it's just one long dead baby joke and I really miss the punchline. That's the cool and airy show. Maybe there are bad comedians and they just they just swung a miss on the punchline. I'm in a way. Yeah, no, that's it. They were like, yeah, no people like these dead baby jokes. Let's go for one of those, but a whole movie. I get it. I get it. that's it. They were like yeah, no people like these dead baby jokes. Let's go for one of those but a whole movie

I get it. I get it. Let's go. Let's go for one of those but a whole generation By a proven fraud About cuasing other people of fraud that is this movie is this would be like me making a documentary about people who jerk off too much. There we go. Stretch of the imagination by which this is not the craziest, worst capturing of film I've ever seen. I've never been happier to make fun of a thing. I am only sad that Andrew is not here to cure the words that are coming out of my face about him and his shitty little band of pseudoscience, baby killing, liar asshole friends. I hope you get killed by the X-Men Wolverine.

I hope the X-Men Wolverine bursts out of your chest like a fucking face hugger and it just spends the rest of eternity, you're fucking either side of his head like Dr. Who. I didn't know Dr. Who did that. I feel like you held back. He's got to keep a little of the tank for the breakdown. And of that, how hard was it to make it from one end of this thing to the other? I do not think there is enough weed and volume and heroin in California for me to get through this fucking thing.

I think that the audacity of mother fucking Andrew Wakefield, to literally what he just said, call people a fraud when he has been, I believe, formally charged with fraud. And I'm very careful not to call people frauds in the course of my writing because that's a legal term. He is a fraud. He's a proven one. And he just keeps calling the CDC frauds and liars at everything. And this is not something that he can throw around. Without so where it is brain knowing that he is profited from and created an entire industry, from fear-mongering and creating an entire industry that's propagating diseases

that once upon a time we were very close to wiping out. Andrew Wakefield is the biggest asshole on the planet and he deserves to have that asshole close to wiping out. And your wake field is the biggest asshole on the planet. And he deserves to have that asshole ripped to shreds. Absolutely. And I'll tell you what, we throw down like terms like biggest asshole on the planet from time to time. I think he legitimately is a good nominee for it. You have to go to like dictators to get to his level. Yeah, exactly. Well, in this case, there are mass graves involved. Very little one.

Yeah. Yeah. That's sad. A lot of this is going to be sad. Yeah. I'll go with Donald Trump being a bigger asshole. And that's partially because he, we found evidence recently that he donated to Jenny McCarthy's anti-vax charity.

Yes, yes, I like that guy. Wait, that's charity wouldn't exist without Andrew Wakefield. Right. So Andrew Wakefield's existence makes it possible for Donald Trump to be a bigger asshole. Wow. That's how horrible is that? Now, is there anything you guys want to nominate this movie for being the best at being the worst at?

I don't know if we covered this already, but saying the word fraud about something else and then cutting to a known fucking fraud for commentary. Sorry. Sorry, I just wanted to throw that. Let's see, other things that this is guilty of, taking things out of context, because we don't know, and this is something we'll get into more, but they took, like, how many little tiny clips of the quote-unquote whistleblower and said, you know, this is absolutely what he said. And it's like, why didn't you give us his word saying this instead of filling in his words

with Andrew Wakefield's words. Right. I'm going to say best words knowing when you're making yourself look stupid. And this is similar to Eli's answer. Like a good 30 minutes of this movie is really smart people saying this movie is wrong and they forgot to take it out. Why would they put so many prominent people like you could just find like some schmuck saying these things to make that point, but they keep showing the president and the fucking Bill Gates and a fucking surgeon general and shit saying, no, this is definitely wrong.

And then countering it with lady from YouTube. But didn't you know the president and the CDC and Bill Gates, they're all part of the conspiracy. They're all in it. It's all a fraud. You have to remember, think like the crazy people. Well, I know my blood is already starting to pre-boil over, so we're going to pause long enough for approximately five children to die of vaccine-preventable illnesses. I looked that up. And when we come back, we'll break down all the homicidal indifference of Vaxed.

Gentlemen, come on in. How can I help? Please, Tixie. I brought my own bean bag chair. I can see that. Move. Let me get comfortable. You're gonna break it.

It's gonna. You're your. Guys, guys, guys. Come on down. Right. So we're all comfy How can I be of service? Right well as I mentioned on the phone

We're doing a review of Vax this week, and I just want to run it past you to make sure that we're in safe Territory yeah, no that makes a lot of sense This this list of sources looks good. I mean obviously I'm here to listen, but I can't imagine me me me Eli you you have a list too. Yeah, yeah, I do Sure sure, let me take a look Okay, um yeah, you see these are Problematic I told you why do we bring him dude He hid in the car I had no fucking idea. Over. Okay so this first item here says anyone who listens to our show should find Andrew

Wakefield and punch his balls until he dies. You can't say that. They should. That may very well be, but you can't say it on the show. Okay, these next three items are just the home addresses and phone numbers of the people who made the film with baby killers need to die written next to it. I'm going to go out on a limb and I'm going to say nothing you plan to do with these is remotely legal. What? You're even really? Yes, really.

And finally here, you've written, can we do a prize for whoever kills Andrew Wakefield like a T-shirt or something? And then it appears you've sketched a T-shirt that says, I killed Andrew Wakefield. No. No, you can't give away a t-shirt and encourage your audience to kill Mr. Wakefield. See, we told you that was a waste of money. I get to do what I, you guys never let me do anything. Sorry about that Andrew, thanks for your time. Here, we've got 500 of these. Now now you want a t-shirt? Sure, okay, but you got to kill Andrew Wakefield now

Or else you're a liar And we're back to break down the least pleasant 90 minutes in my podcasting life and that that includes, by the way, the shit I had to do to get on CogDisk when we first started out. And interestingly enough, this movie is gonna start off, this anti-vaccine movie is gonna start off with the 2014 measles outbreak, which is exactly where I would have started this documentary.

We just get this long montage at the beginning, and go in like, yeah, people who made this movie sure are full of shit from all these various respected people. And I didn't think about it until they've mentioned it. But yeah, I guess to these people seeing the president, you're like, well, you know, it's full of shit. If that dude doesn't sit it, yeah, which and like why like we talk about this a lot with Christian cinema, but like, why would you begin your movie?

And it's so badly cut together. There's literally a moment where a CNN news anchor is going, measles has probably been traced to. And then they cut to a different clip of someone being like, someone sneezing, someone sneezing, because that guy finished with a bunch of fucking hippies who think that you can give your kid maple syrup instead of a vaccine. That's who. That's like, I think what makes me mad as to about this whole clip is like, I lived in Anaheim during the measles outbreak. And I just started my website and one of the things I put up on my website was a CDC quiz to figure out what you needed on the schedule.

And I realized I was behind on some of my boosters. So, like, being, like, part of what's contributing to people, to the lack of, you know, to the herd immunity issues being down are adults who miss their boosters. So I'm like, okay, if I'm telling people to go out and get their boosters, I should go out and get my MMR booster. So I did, I had a vaccine reaction by arms swelled. Oh no. Anyways, two months later, I was at Disney on the days of the outbreak. Oh no, Chef. Oh yeah, so I'm really glad that I had that

thing. And you didn't get measles. Nice. Yeah. Shockingly. No, it's kind of like vaccines, mother fucking work. This movie begins with on the others. It's like in one corner, the CDC, the president, the attorney general, and pen and teller, unless in the other corner is a species of technologically advanced light beings. You, you, fucking loose. Like we have the smartest, most capable people on the planet

and a bunch of people who are wearing tinfoil hats and batting at their own shits basically. Yeah, exactly. So once we've established it all the authorities on the subject think this movie is full of crap, we cut to a couple of hands typing for a really long time. And it starts like this is going to be the main culprit from Wakefield, right? That's what I think is the words are like we lied about the science we committed fraud. And I'm like, oh, this I got the wrong impression about committed fraud. And I'm like, oh, this, I got the wrong impression about this movie altogether. But no, apparently this is this CDC whistle

blower. And I have that in quotes every time it appears in my notes. It's yes, because, and this is where we get to point out something that's linked in the show notes on science blogs.com. William W. Thompson has retracted everything about this movie and is in the midst of publishing a paper about how the MMR vaccine is fucking safe. Every piece of information I could find from anyone who actually went to school about any of this kind of stuff has said that his original objections were that he wanted the data interpreted in a certain way and got a little bit she about it, which is why he was willing to speak to someone outside of

the investigation in the first place. And he had no idea he was dealing with anti-vax nutbags. You can check the sources. Thompson didn't think he was a whistleblower. He still doesn't think he's whistleblower. And he's in the middle of publishing a paper that says the opposite of what this fucking movie is. No, but because of this stupid fucking fucking movie he's had to like lawyer up like a whistleblower though. Yeah, I mean, he's he said basically some one of the one of the big things with with him is that he's he's like sometimes data gets taken out of studies because it's not relevant.

It doesn't it doesn't apply to what you're doing and that's not necessarily peaking, it's just we need to take a relevant data. But he never said that vaccines don't work or that they're dangerous. He just said these, these data points aren't, or like the full panel that was working on the study said these data points aren't going to be relevant to what we're doing. And he kind of objected and wanted them included, you know, kind of a footnote. But the conclusion that these people came to is we can't trust the CDC, but we can trust this guy who won't show his face and is telling us he spent his career lying, which is not what he's said, but that's how they represented him.

It seems totally legit. But I have a huge problem with them taking like seven of his quotes out of possibly hours of things they filmed without recorded, without telling them, they recorded him and saying this is exactly what he said verbatim. Right. Yeah, so the basic theme here that we're getting for this movie is the CDC can't be trusted to police itself. Like who watches the watchman?

Right. Okay. question. Does science need an internal affairs department? Isn't, isn't that what science is? It's a big, big internal affairs department that does that? Right. I don't understand. Also, how does causing autism help the CDC or anyone? What the fuck is the end game for giving a whole bunch of kids autism? Ah, see, but this is the part that the movie left out. You see, think about all the scientists and mathematicians and engineers.

You know, little bit spectromy, right? They don't like pugs. They still think pocket protectors are okay to wear. They're keeping the business alive. They just want to be cool compared to the general populace. I get it. I get it. 2032, 50% of the kids will have autism.

And of that, like, what, one out of 10 becomes a NASA engineer. We're going to the moon, motherfuckers. That's the solid, it's funny. They've shown that a high percentage of people who have autism go into the science of some technically, autism causes vaccines. Oh, shit. The whole set. Well, when they figure out a shot that works more than one out of 110 times that why not

have a good shot and it could be like getting on your world autistic. Like let's speed this up. It's like, you know, it's like, why can't we make this retroactive? I could use, you know, 10 more IQ points. Yeah, I drop stuff all the time. I never know how many of them are. Well, I gotta say, this movie though presents autism as a death sentence. And we'll get into that a little bit more.

But the way they present autism in this movie, it is a fate worse than death. So this is where we were going to meet Hooker, the Mexican John Lovitz, who apparently, he's going to say, oh, I got a call from the CDC whistleblower who wanted to let me know all about this, the science that the CDC was hiding. So the story that he's going to present throughout this movie is this whistleblower called me the CDC knows that vaccines cause autism, especially in black kids. And you know, he just doesn't have the evidence to prove it, but I know it's true because look at me, do I not look like a legit fucking source?

If this movie had listed its sources, the first one would be shit, we're pretty sure Bill Thompson meant, and the rest would be Ibbid. And one of my favorite things he said was he's like, oh yeah, after I, they gave me a person to contact. And after I kept contacting them, they told me to stop contacting them for a while. And it's like, in other words, you harass them until they said to stop fucking harassing them, you idiots. Yeah, exactly. And Reed, she couldn't handle the intensity of our pre-destin love.

So she got a restraining order. It's, but I'm a nice guy. You can trust me. I look like Ray Comfort, OD on heroin and they had to restart my apartment mayonnaise. Hey, hey, hey, no, no, it wasn't mayonnaise. It was, it was come directly extracted from Jesus. But, but it was Ray Comfort, so we had to tell him it was mayonnaise, exactly. So, but this is the first time we get one of those outlook context clips

from this Dr. William Thompson. And for some reason, they choose to have like, tinkerbell on LSD as the graphic for whenever he's talking. I almost snorted when I was drinking out my nose right there. Thank you. Yeah, they have the quotes. And the reason why they do that like weird words randomly appearing on the screen thing Is because if they showed the full conversation to be like I mean some asshole would probably say But they just take out the minute. It's like vaccines cause this is more highly edited than when Noah cut together Ray comfort fucking Ken Ham that would this is a less accurate portrayal than the sketch we did in episode 15 right comfort and can can ham actually fuck that would have this is a less accurate portrayal than the sketch we did in episode fifty.

Right, Comfort and Ken, Ken Ham actually fuck, I mean, wait a second, let me trump this. I'm hearing sources are telling me that right, Comfort and Ken Ham are talking. I have audio evidence of it. I am, you call the hashtag Ken Ham whistleblower, my guys, that's, that's how you make scientific discovery is through the better hashtag as we'll learn later on in this movie. But we're not done meeting assholes yet because now we're going to be Doreen grand piece shit.

We're going to meet young Scott Bayo and a Tina Feywig. And this is some chick that says she can cure autism through what crystals, not crystals, but they might as well be bleach animals. Yeah, yogurt. She, yeah, she comes, she's not a bleach animal, but she's a yogurt. Oh, probiotic. Yeah, gotcha. Yeah, shister. And she's the first to introduce the very popular look, there was no autism. And then as we figured out what autism was, there was a ton of autism. It's like was, all of a sudden there was a ton of autism.

It's like, look, there was a ton of trippin'ing, and then as we figured out that didn't work, there was way less trippin'ing. Where did the scalding go? Maybe it's because, did anyone explain to her that we had a lot of kids in teensy tiny baby coffins from all the polio? Like, did anybody ever point this out to her? She just she's not smart but it's like no I don't think anyone's ever explained anything except that you only get too some most

she's here's a thing like for anyone who's just who just watches this movie and it's curious because they've heard that there's a you know a link between autism and vaccines I'm having a serious moment here. Don't worry there there might be a dick joke. But like she's not giving an accurate picture of what autism used to be defined as and what it is defined as now. So to be diagnosed as autism as autistic once upon a time, you had to be deeply withdrawn socially and nonverbal. And there were a handful of other behaviors that went around along with that,

but it was just like those two things. And now we've expanded the definition of being autistic to have the spectrum. And you know, they can people don't, what might not recognize it at first, but somebody who's a behavioral expert will. So there hasn't been a rise, and it's just we're better at seeing and better at helping people who have autism. So there hasn't, once upon a time somebody would be, would be diagnosed as having mental retardation, they'd be diagnosed with having schizophrenia,

they'd be diagnosed with a ton of other things, they'd be warehouse, they wouldn't be integrated into society, they wouldn't be able to be helped. And this woman is just saying, oh yeah, there's been a rise in it. It's like, no, we're not diagnosing them with different things that they were diagnosed with before. And she's just going, there's been a huge rise.

That's, this isn't new. This woman is just mad, flailing, and probably hasn't had an orgasm in like 30 years. So she's angry. So I like I said it. I promise there'd be a dick joke. This is the statistical equivalent of saying all the stars appeared when we invented that. Right. Yeah.

Exactly. Yes. And then and this is not the last time they will do this in the movie and this pissed me off like nothing else. Then they start using these autistic kids as props to sell their bullshit. Oh my God. No, no. No, here's the thing. You could take hundreds of hours of video of kids that are autistic and just have, you

know, kids drawn pictures or whatever, kids having fun, kids walking with their parents, but they get all of them in the middle of temper tantrums or something like that so that you just feel like an autistic kid is just something chained in the fucking basement through this entire movie. And we're just supposed to look at it and go, oh, those poor kids that vaccines ruined, it's so sad. Yeah. And they keep referring to them as damaged.

Dear God, what horrible parents are you that you call your kids damaged? That's fucked up. And they chose like extremely severely autistic children for all of this entire montage. And if these children could speak, they'd probably say, please don't put me in a movie. All right. And if you do, please don't put me in a movie

that kills other children. I appreciate it. Yeah, no shit. And for the autistic people who can speak like, oh, we're gonna get to it. We're gonna get to the scene, but there are several times throughout this movie in which parents in front of their children

who very clearly understand language are like, yup, he's broken. He'll never have a normal life. He's ruined forever. And it's like, that kid can fucking hear you. He's watching blues clues. You need to process this better. I'm sorry. You don't have the proper mental health resources. What is Andrew Wakefield in this movie? I want to

talk about Andy. That's where we get next. We finally get to the baby murder enabler himself. Now, I want to ask just in you guys's opinion, does Andrew Wakefield really look that evil or is it just that evil now looks Andrew Wake? He could not look like a bond villain. He is terrifying. I think it's that nobody told him that that haircut has been never mind is out. It's never been in. I say hair cut. I can't.

Is that a wig or is that like what? Is that the Donald Trump reject wake that he's wearing? That's a bad. It's like brain on the side. And it's kind of like a bowl cut thing with gray on the sides. And then this thing just crawled onto the top of his head and it's horrible. It's not to attack someone for their looks, but fuck that guy.

Oh my God. An actual shark with a laser beam would be more subtle as the bad guy. Yeah. Oh, I hope Andrew Wakefield gets eaten by bears untricedicles. Bears wearing bright red hats made out of uranium. I hope all the skin on Andrew Wakefield's body gets eaten off

by the Lorax. Andrew Wakefield should literally fuck himself today. Literally. He should in the attempt of getting his dick up his own ass, it should fall off and he should die from the blood loss. That is what I pray for each night before I write. And I hope all this is happening. He's being kept alive by machines so we can feel the pain for longer.

And he's being kept alive by machines that make sure that all of the opiate receptors in his body are blocked So his natural endorphins don't get through It's like she's really thought this through. Oh No, I just I have a background in toxicology, so I know how to make someone hurt I see I see so there's not a graph with this listed out as a plan on the wall besides you do or anything Oh, no, this is just I this let's see, my jobs have included explosives research, toxicology research, and pesticide research, so I know how to fuck you up.

It's a good thing that I am, it's a good thing that I only have bad thoughts and never bad intentions because if I ever really wanted to fuck up someone's life, I could. That's all I would say. But here's a sad thing with Andrew Wakefield. I can't tell by looking at someone or by hearing someone's story. If they ever started out with bad intentions or not. But what he, like, because it sound, sound innocent enough when you watch this. Because he said someone approached him because he was a gastroenterologist. He wasn't an autism researcher. He was not a pediatrician. He said exactly, he's not even a doctor

anymore because of all this but he's I love that they put in there like his qualifications and no words that say MD. I'm like, uh-huh, you're a dick. But it's like, it's easy, like for somebody, like he said that parents came to him saying, my child is having these gastroenterology issues, and they're having, and they're autistic, and you look to see if there's a link. And it's true that in science, we start off with a correlation

and see if there's a causation. That can happen. But after the study was retracted and severely just panned in the scientific community, he didn't say, okay, I might have made a mistake. This needs 5,000 children to be studied, not 12. He doubled down. And that's not what you do in science.

You self-reflect and say, what did I do wrong? And he didn't just double down, he promoted fear, and he tried claiming, and the ways representing himself in this movie is so not what happened, and so not scientific. Also, fuck Andrew Wakefield. Yes, oh by all means. Just fuck him in the fucking neck.

I mean, don't give him the pleasure, but fuck Andrew Wakefield in the fucking neck. Is he a fuck him somewhere where there wasn't an orifice to begin with exactly? Make, give him a trapeatomy hole without antiseptic and fuck him in that. And it's crazy. When we meet him, am I remembering this correctly? He literally says like, there's no reason I should be studying autism.

I didn't study anything about that in my medical training. That's how we start with this character. Am I wrong? Well, yeah, but I mean, that's after we have Anderson Cooper come on and say Andrew Wakefield is full of shit. And then we meet Andrew Wakefield. He says, I don't know what I'm talking about. I don't think they knew the cameras were on some. Andrew Wakefield. Andrew Wakefield is such a fraud. It made the fucking news because here's the thing like if that just talked about like yeah you take a moment and you learn when you make a mistaken science. Most people who make mistakes in their medical journals don't do sort of the fact that it makes it

to fucking Andrew's desk. I'm not saying there are medical mistakes now and then but it's rare that you fuck up so badly that it's on every major News channel and you have to start calling yourself there There is I believe a website called retraction watch dot org and it goes through and papers have to be retracted and sometimes people will Self-retract when they find a mistake in their research that's a responsible way to do research Not doubling down when somebody points out that your research was poorly conducted. So yeah, people get things wrong, but we learn from it. We don't keep doubling down on bad stuff.

He should have had his research checked by somebody else, verified by an independent laboratory, and should have had a much larger sample size. And then he would have seen, hopefully, that it was wrong. But we'll get to this later. He had a huge investment, monetarily, in why he wanted that study out there. That's for later though. Yeah, well, and that's the big thing is that like up until that point, he hadn't actually done anything evil. He had just been a poor scientist. But now, and as he's explaining this, this movie, this is the first of many

times that I thought, did I secretly come in and re-edit this movie and then forget about it or something? Because right in the middle, I'm talking, it just cuts him with a clip of Bill Gates on CNN saying he's a liar and his liar has killed thousands of kids. And I was like, is it required by law that when he shows up on video for more than 50 seconds, someone has to say that or, or do they do that on purpose? Bill just bought a buyout. He was just like, here's a billion dollars. Every time Andrew Wakefield's on screen,

I want this hacker to go in and just insert this clip. They must have had a conversation like this. Like, okay, who could we show disagreeing with us? Like someone not credible. So we guys like a surgeon general? No, no, already did that. Okay. And president Bill Gates, general. No, no, no, already did that. Okay. President Bill Gates. Perfect.

Yeah. Where? What? Bill Gates puts tons of money into vaccinating children in the third world. So it was a good, sorry, the developing world. It's a good, good pick. I see. I see. But it's also somebody that the assholes can, can demonize because they think he has a financial stake in it. Oh, right, right. Yeah. Again, you got to think like an idiot when you're watching these fucking things. And then we meet yet another asshole and this is going to be a pivotal asshole.

This is the investigative journalist again, in quotes by the name of Dell Big Tree. Yeah. Yeah. Jason Seagull stranded on the desert island. Billy Connolly going undercover as the last guy left in the sports bar. Yeah. Looks like he's about to sell me used hockey skates out of his van. And apparently he didn't want to print more resumes. So he decided to keep his porn star name. What the fuck? I didn't think it was dealt with a bullshit. No, I'm to plume like that you deserve Rubella asshole. And he, he

puts forward the main argument of this fucking movie. Everything you need to know about this movie is the first thing he says, he says, look, all the scientists agree and agreed, but the parents thought differently. And then he practically, then he puts on fucking Shirley McClain's mother's love and just accompanies himself on the guitar for 90 more minutes. The customer is always right. Yeah, right. This movie. Like my question is, why didn't he ask 80 year old parents who were membered polio?

He asked 45 year olds who have never seen an iron long. Right, right, exactly. He literally comes up to the camera and he's like, all right, I know we have all these controlled studies proving this wrong, but what about these anecdotes? Right, exactly. And also, there's a lot of this, like, I guess the scientists and doctors must think that a mother wouldn't know something's wrong with their child. And it's like, really?

Smell your baby's tummy. What disease does he have? Why are we brought to a diagnostic? It's like he presents himself as an investigative medical journalist. I did did my due diligence. He's not he's never worked as an investigative journalist. He's a television producer. There's a huge difference and one of the shows he produces is the doctors. I promise you these places are not giving out accurate medical information.

His medical information on the doctors is slightly more likely to be accurate than on Dr. Oz, which still means you have a hit rate of maybe 60% accurate. His, the reputability for sources like medical shows, quote, of what medical shows, are about as accurate as a moldy block of to jam from Donald Trump. And look, after this, the guy shows a crying baby with a fresh, backstreet injection

in his arm. So, of course, he's right. Of course. Right, because babies would only cry when they get a shot if it was giving them autism. I'm sure the baby can sense the autism coming on. And that's why I just cried after getting a needle jabbed into me. And the whole goddamn argument the guy's making is, well, look, the vaccines happen and

then the autism diagnosis not so far after. Yeah, so if the sun doesn't make my piss, then why do I have to always go in the morning? What the fuck are you even trying to get there yourself? I'm borrowing that argument by the way. Something sounds like a P. Yeah, that's what I took away from this fucking movie. But yeah, and then he basically says, well, I think we can all agree that no parent

would ever overestimate how sick their child is. Like what kind of bullshit? Like that, you should, your nose should grow when you say that. A fucking course to every parent. My mother can think, thought I've had cancer three times a week, of course. Have you ever met a first-time parent? They're always bringing their kids to the ER for the sniffles. I think he has bubonic plague.

Let's do it. I mean, they're, they're either trying to bring back things that have been gone since the dark ages or they're googling things and thinking that they have things that have been gone since the dark ages. And it's not that these are bad parents, it's just that they're scared. And that's part of the reason why this anti-vaccine has happened is because we have scared them into being afraid of the thing that's going to save them. Right, right.

Well, and there are villains in the story. They are not necessarily the parents that don't get the kids vaccinated, although they're not necessarily not those people either, speaking of villains. This is when we meet a British and culture and her husband. Now I love the anti-scibe. I have so much anger for this woman because she started off as the victim here and turned into, like, as soon as you start selling the pseudoscience, I'm glad with you. Yeah, right.

Right. Yeah. So, we should point out that, because they never mentioned this in the movie, Polly Tommy, who is this woman who looks like they inflated her tits with a bicycle pump or the fucking shoot. Polly Tommy is married to a nutritionist. She has a son with autism and then Wakefield, Andy Wakefield comes to her and says, hey, you want some money to start an autism magazine that totally lies about how autism starts

and she's like, I sure do because my husband's a nutritionist, that's a nonsense word and that fruits and vegetables business seems to be running out. So she then starts a fucking billboard campaign with her tits out about how you need to watch out for vaccines and has since been playing this like grieving mother who just happened to stumble on the solution character for the last 30 fucking years. But again, this whole career of her starts

when Andrew Wakefield is like, hey, let me produce your fake fucking magazine, autism weekly or what are the autosum file, yeah. I just, I didn't realize the money came from Wakefield, Jesus. This is just the entire like fake autism cure, anti-vax industry is very incestuous. Yeah, right. Well, they're, yeah, right, every one of them that looks respectable enough and can get through

a five minute interview without smearing themselves with their own bodily excretions wound up in this fucking movie. Yeah, and so, yeah, that's how they get their start is she originally came out with a like how to cure your kid's autism diet, but then the Austin, the Texas observer published a long article called Autism Inc. In 2013, where they pointed out that Andrew Wakefield registered a company called the Autism File Global in Texas, listening Tommy as a fellow manager in June 2011. Yeah, that's on one of the things that we'll put in.

There will be a lot of notes in the key. Tara's law, bring it you baby to the grass. Sorry. Sorry. What? So yeah, she's talking funny things about her appearance. No, she's saying like basically when we first meet her, she's saying like, well, I was just like any other parent and I, you know, responded intelligently and got my kids vaccinated. And she even says at one point, you know, my mom called me up and told me to stop doing it.

And she's a homeopathic hippie. Read, she's as stupid as possible while still able to put articles of clothing on the right body parts. But according to this movie, what this lady should have done is ignored all of medical science and listened to our artist hippie homeopathic mom. Yeah. And that's literally the story she tells. She was like, well, and I thought, man, I better

listen to doctors. What a cool. Yeah, exactly. If only I had it to do over again, new parents with fucking vulnerable children. Parents, I love babies. So now I'm an authority on them, but this is not how this works. Yeah, exactly.

Don't, don't buy into that. Buy into the whole like it's, and this is a line that I hear all the time. Doctors don't know everything. Doctors might not know everything, but you know who really doesn't know everything? A mommy blogger who thought they learned how to heal you with two weeks of classes on fucking essential oils. Right. That's just fact.

Well, that's just the thing. It's like, they don't know everything. So therefore everyone's knowledge is equal. No, there's more and less that, you know, it's not just a thing. It's like, they don't know everything. So therefore everyone's knowledge is equal. No, there's more and less that, you know, it's not just everything and then nothing. I'm thinking of a number between one and a million. If you can't guess what it is, I also have a doctor. Yeah, the hippie homeopathic grandma actually ends up being the good guy in her little story like jingling rainbows.

No, I'll take your advice. Perfect. Yeah. Great. And then we get to meet our first doctor from the doctors. That's Jim Sears who looks like Mel Gibson is allergic to something. Yeah, who has since written a book about spacing out vaccines. He looks like Peyton Manning evolved just a little bit.

And here's the thing they present to him as, oh, I'm just a pediatrician who comes to this cold knowing nothing about this vaccine controversy, except what I was told by the CDC. I bet you can't convince me. Right. And not as a guy who's been featured on a blog on science blogs.com as run, don't walk away from these doctors. It looks like you should be arguing with Guy Fieri about what medium rare means and then buying his son's love every other weekend. You're right. But he is the set up to the eventual payoff we'll have in this movie where he's basically like, look, I'm a doctor.

I went to doctor school. Nothing could ever convince me to be anti-vax. Like, and I am, it's just, I don't know, I don't even understand how they can get away with it. No, I understand exactly how they can get away with this. They made this, this movie for a specific audience. And this audience is already in love with these people. Right. Yeah, this is listed under confirmation bias category.

Exactly. And that's the thing. What this movie is here for, and the reason why they keep showing the CNN clips and shit like that. This is movie for the for the anti-vaxx nuts that are starting to lose the faith, trying to show them, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, calm down, guys, calm down. We're still right. Here's how you argue with those people. Yeah. Okay, so then we go back to British and Colter or whatever where she's talking about her baby's autism. And look, you know, discovering that your baby has autism, I can only imagine how difficult

that is for you, you know, that your job as a parent kind of changed from your expectations, your expectations for your child changed a lot. It's going to be much more difficult. You're going to have to learn a lot of news shit. I understand that that's got to be super painful and they make us go through that several times in this movie. And it's just like, okay, regardless of what causes autism, this is true. This is not bolstering your point.

This is just emotionally manipulating your audience. That's the only purpose it serves. Right. And this is where I want to point out again that every opinion in this movie is well you know when my kid got autism they turned from my bright beautiful little baby into a robot to just destroy this family brick-brick right big and it's like do you kids fucking fine they're differently abled

but i can find you're still a god damn parent and one of the things that's hardest because we have a ton of listeners who are on the spectrum or Some who are even diagnosed with autism at a fairly severe level one of the hardest things about being autistic Is the stigma of being broken and one of the hardest things to watch about this movie was watching these real human beings with Thoughts and feelings and the ability to be productive and have happy lives have have their mothers sit next to them and be like, and just to know he'd never have a happy life and it's like, fuck you, your kid could have a happy life. If you weren't so fixated on you and the way you were experiencing this, you could be a

decent parent and you could create a happy life for your child who happens to be differently able than have a different way of interacting with the world. You've blown, you fucking come to life, fucked all of a human being, you chill, piece of shit. I hope you get eaten to death by photographs. I hope you get raped by photographs. Well, if you get a song from Nickelback, the worst thing that's happening to these children isn't the autism, it's the shitty parents. Yes.

And this is such a poor shit, the fucking British mom going like. And then my, because look, we need to be upfront about this, that there are side effects to vaccines. And some of them are pretty bad. None of them are autism. The bad ones are extremely rare. The benefits of vaccines are way, way, way, way outweigh them. But there are actual reactions that you can have to a vaccine, you can get a fever, you

can have a seizure, all this stuff. So they keep like pointing that out and then saying, and then the kid was autistic only nine months later. The seizures, and this is worth pointing out when they happen. You can have, like your, your body is supposed to have an immune reaction, an immune system reaction to a vaccine. And that's because you're building a mutant. Yeah, that's the whole point.

To the viruses. So you can get a low grade fever to it. Now some children who are prone to fibroial seizures, they only find out that they're going to have those fibroial seizures when they get that vaccine. And you get that fibroial seizure when you get a fever. But this is not that vaccines cause seizures. It's that this child was prone to was you know somebody that's gonna get febrile seizures if they have Feevers. So this is like it's it's a it's not just cause and effect. It's cause effect effects cause like there's

There are a few things going on here and people just see vaccines are evil. Like it's not like the death now that people think it is. Like vaccines are still safe and effective and don't cause anything more than, uh, than a swollen arm for most people. Right. Well, and then of course the, the, the British mom is standing there going and no one ever told me vaccines had any side effects. I'm like, well, where the fuck were you and fucking junior high? Yeah, followed by a picture of the thing that gave you before they

gave you a side of it, listing the side effect. Literally, they cut to a photo of the thing your doctor hands you and goes, here, you know, this, this got all the side effects listed on it. This is what we have to do with drugs. And she's like, that's right. No one ever told me. I'm sorry that you're bad at reading. Yeah, iTunes never told me about the cookies. Also, they forgot to mention the list of side effects for measles, mumps, and rebel. I feel like that's relevant. And potential in cephalopathy, death Yeah, miscarriage going death. Also infecting your entire town with measles, mumps and a lot. These are things that they don't talk about. Remember, it's a harmless childhood disease.

Yeah, right. And also, okay, so we get another one of these montages of the kids, how horrible autistic kids are, whatever, like the fucking rampaging, unscivilized animals that they are. And I thought to myself, this is basically the same as like if you were doing a documentary about neurotypical kids, but every time you showed one, you'd be like bitching at his mom or wrecking the car or throwing eggs at the neighbor's house, as though that's all kids do. Isn't that all kids do? That's why I have dogs.

Yeah. And then we cut to another mom who's gonna talk about how she used to have a beautiful boy, but now he's autistic. She starts off, she says, my oldest son was born normal and I wrote, you mean vaginally because otherwise you're being an asshole. That's a fact. He was normal and now he's shitty. Like what?

It's neuro-typical and neuro-githering, right? Yeah, I'm sorry. You're supposed to, okay. Exactly. By the way, we should point out that this nurse, A, she's not a doctor, like a doctor nurse. I know they're both medicine words, but she went to night school, guys. She's one step above a pharmacist. And she's fucking, she's the head of the quote unquote thinking mom's revolution. Super ironic.

They have called me. Yeah, exactly. For the record. Oh, I didn't know you were. Oh, good. Well, it's good thing. I don't even fake orgasms. Never mind.

And she explains that seven days after the vaccine, her son turned back into a side note where the fuck did she think? And don't you love how it switched now from, oh, the day of the vaccine to seven days after later on, it's going to be a couple of months after, as though this is all the same identical story over and over. 10 minutes later, he's watching Wapner, right? Okay. That's not how.

Here's the sad thing, isn't it? They do that. They do the, like, if it happened months later, they'll sometimes blame the vaccine. Yeah. the like if it happened months later, they'll sometimes blame the vaccine. And if you look at VAERS, the vaccine injury reporting system, they will look, they'll, they can blame anything up to a belief six months after you've been vaccinated on a vaccine. How insane is that? Yeah. A year and a half later, my car crashed.

Coincidence? I think not. It's, I, thanks Obama yeah yeah and now it's back to medicine Hitler so that Wakefield can introduce a sad vaccine cartoon about the history of MMR oh he looks like he scalped a 1920s business Jesus fucking Christ he looks like a rejected audition for Mo in the reboot of the series. He looks like he took the face of a fat man and like scalped it and put it onto the face of a skinnier man. Yeah. So we watched this

little cartoon where he explains that there was a vaccine that caused men in jidus and then they gave it to the brits and it caused meningitis as well. And then it snuck to Brazil where it had a more meningitis and here. I don't know if it's true, but I will say the only source I could find that agreed with this was literally from David. Oh my god. Literally from David. That was the only that I googled this and it didn't find the fucking CDC or anything or Wikipedia or some vetted source. I found cure zone dot org and the source was David and mother fucking lizard people. I think there's a reason they share cruises. It was also on whale too, which any time I see it on whale too, that's just automatic bullshit. Like if someone cites whale too,

I'm like, bye. Audio's Felicia, it's just no. Yeah, nothing on Google about British people with torches and pitchforks storming the castle of the national health service in 1988 or a spy versus spy taking the poison to Brazil and killing much gets there. That's not good to say that. Hey, look guys, I saw a very legitimate cartoon introduced by a former doctor that showed that evil vaccines cause meningitis to cartoon kids with oral thermometers all over the world.

And here's the thing, is that like the story is unverifiable or whatever, but even if it's not, what he's saying is, once there was a bad vaccine, so why not this one too? And that's the closest he ever gets to a actual claim with this. So now we're back to, you know, yet another mother talking about her fucking kid getting a vaccine and then having autism, you know, as though, hmm, maybe autism isn't always apparent at birth, but no, of course she plays an international cabal of medical colligulus, conspiring against her child's social development. You know, and the sound fucking thing is you can't help but be crazy sympathetic to these parents. It's hard to go through.

They want somebody to blame. Here comes a fucking guy who knows all the doctor words and says he's got someone to blame. I get the appeal of this, which is what makes it so fucking sinister. Yeah, I mean, it's really hard to look at your own DNA as the cause of this. But it's more upsetting is that they're calling autism a tragedy. I don't know how severe their son's case is, they're describing in here. But they keep calling autism a death sentence.

They're the child in this this case they're talking about, like they might need certain types of therapy and extra help, but you know, it won't need an iron lung. Well, yes, exactly. And yet the parents are like, look at this useless fucker now. We can't even prop a door open with them. I mean, we wanted a kid that was going to take care of us in our old age or something. Yeah, it is so fucking hard to watch that not only are these parents being taken advantage of, but then they're being used as a prop to sell causes of death from the 18th century.

Like I wanna see how much footage there is of their child, the children that are in this that are autistic, of them just sitting down and having lunch and behaving normally and giving their parents hugs. Because most of the time it's not this horrible, screaming, you know, having misbehaving moments, like, and that's not the case for most people who are defined as autistic by our current definition, like, when they say the cases are growing up, like, yeah, it's because we've changed the definition. So when I see them

showing these more extreme cases, it's like, yeah, those cases are not going up, but they're also showing the worst moments of it. And I hate that they're using these children as props. It's morally repugnant. Yeah, it is so fucking disgusting. And now we get back to sort of the timeline of the Andrew Wake field study, where basically they're saying, hey, you know, if it hadn't been for Andrew Wakefield, we'd never have pissed away all these tax dollars following this false and fraudulently placed lead. And I'm writing to my notes at this point, I'm like, funny how they haven't mentioned that Wakefield was in on a patent for a competing vaccine yet. I bet they're saving that for the reveal.

Right. And their excuse here is like, well, you know, the CDC only studies. Cool. And I wanted them to fucking cut to the CDC wearing a backwards baseball cap and riding around on a rubber board and just like, whoa, dude, it did. Jesus. Again, the point that they're making at this point in the movie is genuinely, if it weren't for the heroic lying of Andrew Wakefield, nobody would know about the lie we're telling you now. And what they're basically saying here is, or what they're revealing here is that Andrew Wakefield did this shit fucking study where he had like crazy conflicts of interest that he didn't disclose or whatever.

And then the CDC spent a shit ton of money following up on this. You know, they like once they saw what he had said, the CDC's like, well, fuck, we better spend a ton of taxpayer money that would otherwise go towards real diseases or real medical malities on this fucking study. And the whole goddamn movie is going to be like, from this point on demonizing the CDC for not agreeing with Andrew Wakefield's findings. It's well, the worst thing is his, his response to the CDC, it didn't even make sense because he says in the movie, I didn't demonize vaccines.

All I was saying was that we should do single shots for measles, mumps, and rubella instead of the triple shot. Bullshit asshole. Right. You know what you were saying. If he thought that the problem was with the vaccine adjuvant or with thimerisol, one vaccine is a better option than three because the child would receive fewer adjuvant with three and one as opposed to separate shots. The reason why, as you said earlier, that that Wakefield wanted a

single shot is in the first place that he's omitting in this film. He was on the payroll of a firm that was suing the manufacturers of the MMR and he was making his own unproven at that point, measles shot. It's always about the money and it still is because he launched this entire industry. Yeah, they're going after the CDC constantly in this movie and they keep showing this locker where they like there's like secret, bad, evident, why would why would the CDC have a locker of incriminating evidence anyway? How they heard about computers? Or just don't have that, don't save that stuff. If you have an illuminati conspiracy going on, just you know, get rid of all the paperwork

after. I don't. Yeah, exactly. And now, now we cut to spinning newspaper shots like they just got pictures of Spider-Man, but they're actually the newspapers about this little fraud thing. He has pictures of Spider-Man. How did you find out? Yeah, I thought those were in the locker. Damn it. I need these. Yeah, but instead those newspapers are actually about the time we caught Andrew Wakefield being

a fraud and he didn't get to call himself a doctor anymore. And they don't even mention it. They just like spin them on the screen. Like it was a screen saver. They got left into the goddamn movie. So we can be introduced to Mark Blacksill, who has no fucking scientific credentials. He's associated with safe minds and he's entirely full of shit. He looks like Dietrich Bader,

the Cornhole guy from the office, grandfather got his nose broken for lying about vaccines and killing people's babies. He's maybe he makes baby coffins. I don't, I just, I'm hearing. These are things I'm hearing. We're just asking questions. People are saying it. I'm not saying it's true. I'm just saying I'm hearing. We're just asking questions. I'm not saying it's true.

I'm just saying I'm hearing it. And his argument's basically, I have a daughter. She got a vaccine. She got autism. The so-called experts told us it was genetic. But actually, I, who have no training, figured out it was crop-dusting, pipe-stripping water. No, vaccines. I'm amazed that they went right over to like to everything except vaccines.

Like they went over to GMOs and toxins and pesticides. I'm like, wait, what were you just saying? Was the vaccines like for a lot of the people that they got for this movie were the kind of people where it's just like the clock is ticking before this person starts bitching about GMOs. You know, like, okay, we're hopefully we can get 90 seconds before she goes off on GMOs and just general talks and so you should probably talk about some vaccines in there at some fucking point.

Yeah. Also, I just want to throw this out. How much money do you think this fucking movie spent on evil looking shots of syringes? Right. We see what is a rocket taking off or dripping acid or whatever. And I'm like, even if you're right syringes are not the enemy. Oh, yeah, there's like, you still like turkey basters with like poison green stuff in there.

It's over the top. You know what's interesting is there are parents who will now skip the vitamin K shot that they give to newborns to prevent bleeding disorders because they're sure if it's given an injection for them, they just don't want it for their kids. And there have been children who have almost had bleeds in their brains to the point of death because these parents are just so scared of injections and they've been told by these bullshit websites don't get the vitamin K shot. And I have so much anger and the worst, one of the worst things it was said in this little segment,

like they start the segment with saying, nobody's career has been advanced by taking on the vaccine industry, bullshit. All of the assholes in this film have a career from doing exactly that. They have a whole they have a whole anti-vax-slash fake autism cure industry now and it started from from Andrew Wakefield's bullshit at his claim it couldn't be genetic

well researchers within the last year or so pinpointed the sequence of genes that cause autism but if they admit that if they finally just go with that, if they accept the evidence, the real peer-reviewed tested over and over again evidence their whole industry crumbles, and they don't get to sell any books or magazines with those bits of drops of mercury and syringes on the cover anymore, and who will keep the syring industry in business? Definitely not the vaccine people. Well, I gotta say, too, it's like they're saying in this movie, like, there's no financial interest in making saying this thing that you just paid $4.99 to rent. It's not like

anyone would ever pay here this. And to make it even more obvious, literally, the next scene is, and then we got started a magazine and got 250,000 emails, which broke the internet worldwide. I didn't get shit from Skittles, but I'm saying, you don't point out you had nothing to gain and then talk about how much attention you got and the TV spot you earned. Well, and again, this is like you're using your own stupidity to justify your own stupidity. They're like, I talked a friend of mine who goes to a nutritionist who tells him out of cure autism with fucking diet or whatever.

But one of my clients was a TV producer and I got him to talk about this on TV. And then they used the fact that it was on TV as a justification for how legitimate it is. And people are sure if it's on TV, they couldn't have gotten on tb if it wasn't reputable like it's that's not how it works a lot of bullshit lands on television look at fox right right look at the doctors look at doctor a's

look at a virtually everything you would ever learn about medicine through television oh yeah it's it's so it there, there's nothing holding them accountable for saying stupid bullshit. I mean, for fuck's sake, look at Jerry Springer. Like, it's those, those look at every reality show ever. The fights are fakes. The, you know, the competitions are faked. So like anything you see on TV can be faked and can be lied.

It's all production value. Medical TV is like if all cooking shows told you not to cook meat. Right. And so it's like here on the barefoot contest, the now listen, that if you cook your meat, it's going to give you the jibble. So okay. So don't do it. Don't fucking do it. I'm eating this food. I'm fine. And so now we get back around to Mexican John Love it. So now if you recall, he's the one who got the, the damaging data from the so-called whistleblower. Now, obviously the data didn't show what they wanted it to show because where we start with it with this is he's going like, well, once I got the data, I came

up with my own method of analyzing data because descriptive exploratory, inferential, predictive, causal, and mechanistic didn't give me the answer I wanted. So I came up with a whole new way where I threw darts and shit. I think you throw shit. Not for shit and darts, yeah, exactly. And I called the one guy I knew would agree with me. And then they literally cut to Andrew being like me with the line. I mean, people won't trust me to read them a grocery list. Okay. Special. And then he starts

quoting Eli describing his browsing history. He goes, first I looked at males, then at females, then I took a long look at young black males. And it took way longer. Yeah, exactly. But but but but but then like I was just about to say, you know, this movie is clearly full of shit, but then they show a graph with lines and numbers. So never mind, guys, we're wrong. And they explain how to look at a graph. They literally teach you the wrong way. Listen, when my cousin was born, I made her mother insane by holding up apples and going orange, orange, that's what this part of the movie is. All right, the way that I almost got punched in with her by my cousin Becca is how this movie demonstrates how to read a grasp. Oh, you're going to do that. If you got baby cousins, you gotta start doing that.

That's killer. They're parents lose their minds. They were so- Also less damaging than everything that happens in a bright future. There's so many things wrong with this. Like when he's talking about, like, they jump around to three different sets of data. And eventually they get to a graph showing the autism diagnosis at certain age versus MMR vaccine showing, aha, this must cause autism.

No, the Sanha works. The data is barely statistically significant. And part of the reason that we saw a difference, and this is from what I read from Thompson's personal statement and from part of what he said in interviews is that they required vaccinations for special needs children in to attend their special needs preschools. They drilled down into the CDC and that was why they omitted the data and they said, okay, it's not the vaccines that are causing us. They got the vaccines after they went after they were diagnosed. So that's part of the reason why they use after they were diagnosed. So that's part of the

reason why they you know use different sets of data. So this guy is like I'm gonna screw with the data and I'm gonna find ways that I can make it look significant. So obviously the CDC are a bunch of lying monsters who want to make sure that your kids are damaged and broken. The people who made this movie describe the relationship between data and autism the way I answer the question is it Well, I mean a big such a good Well, it might hurt if you squeeze tight Are you measuring from three inches inside my body because that's where

Legs I don't know if you know that time We have a complete different variables. I'm almost average. It depends. How big is the butt plug you're using? Also like tentacles. How many condoms am I allowed to wear in this scenario? I used an extender. Have we used a pussy pump first? I'm sorry, I just, I'm, I'm going to hell and you're all coming. And now we get one of cinema's oddest title screens, just right in the middle of this conversation, it suddenly comes up and it goes, the African American effect. And I was so sure we were going to get hip hop. I was so sure that was going to end with a hip hop beat. I would have put all the money I have on it.

Luckily, there was no one there to take the bet because it didn't just like all the other music in this movie. It was all and we actually should point out just for the nature of people who want to understand why it is they're slamming the African American quote unquote effect so hard. It's because Wakefield and his cronies have shifted to praying on the African American community, especially the nation of Islam, with the zeitgeist of like vaccines or the new Tuskegee experiments. So like, that is why this section of the movie exists. It is to, it's to cater to a specifically paranoid group of African-Americans in this

country who, rightfully so, don't trust white people. We're just giving them a new thing. Right. No, it's like sickle selenemia is caused by police bullets. So just watch out what you do. Yes, yes. And this is kind of sad. I wrote an article on vaccines a while ago that was supposed to be for a conservative outlet.

And I ended up pulling it because I tried to make it look like like the the biggest vaccine skeptics were black Islamic people and I'm like no no the biggest vaccine skeptics in this country the biggest group by far percentage wise are white upper middle class ladies and I hadn't written a thing about you know blackers Islamic people in there they took a quote of mine out of the car the editors took a quote of mine out of context to make it sound like it was black people that were anti-vaxx. I'm like, no, I'm not going to be publishing here anymore. I learned

my lesson. This is not my home for my writing. But the revisionist history that this mother, this African-American mother, is giving us that she sent something was off. Not to, you know, mom blame here, but if you're so good at detecting, not existing danger, why did you let the kid get the shot in the first place? Right. And this is one of the worst moments of, there were, there's been several of these, but this, when they have this, this black mother sitting there with her autistic son right next to him, talking and just crying about how terrible a person broken person he is. This was the moment I feel like I came closest to breaking something expensive. I

could not fucking handle it. I literally had to keep walking away from this fucking scene because they've just got this poor mom and here's the really insidious thing that kind of gets overlooked a lot of times that okay, the parents are now also blaming themselves for letting their kid get vaccinated. And we see that in full fucking color on this poor woman's face, where she's standing there and she's like, I can't believe I let my son get vaccinated when I shouldn't known because my mother instinct should have kicked in. Yeah, and it's real. This was the hardest part of the movie for me. This was the scene

that I was talking about. The kid is sitting there next to her watching Blues Clues, which means he understands language. And she's talking about how, oh, my daughter's fluent in three languages. She's an A student and she can smell a man three months into the future. This piece of shit might as well just be a sack full of organs. And it's like your fucking kid can hear you and this crying line to everyone who did this to Hershaget fuck to death by Apple geniuses. The people who lied to Hershaget run over by a thresher covered in salt, I would accept the happening happening in real life if it started an Andrew Wakefield film. It's disgusting. And I don't think anything has ever driven home how disgusting it is to

me as much as this scene where she's going like, you know, and they said he was autistic and I said, what like rain man? Because I was wondering how many toothpicks were in there. No, not like rain man at all. It's a terrible depiction of autistic. That's like saying avian flu, like Mickey Rooney. Like that. Really? Now what it's like. And also the mom's just saying over and over again, my son will never be happy. It is very clearly happy. Like he's very pleased. He's sitting next to you.

The fuck out of the blue blues clues over there. Don't, don't black people love to tell people in movies to look behind them. He's right there. people love to tell people in movies to look behind them. He's right there. Why don't I know about you guys, but I need to put Andrew Wakefield's picture on something and then punch it until my knuckles bleed. So we're going to pause for a quick break. But before we do, let me give act three of the hard sell. Will Andrew Wakefield get fucked at that by a gang of her pedic Kodiak bears? Will his eyes be ripped out of his skull so that it can be filled with agitated hornets will his intestines be roasted and fed to him Only in my erotic novels, but stick around anyway for the homicidally negligent conclusion of

Vaxed All right event thanks again for coming back and doing this again. Heath and I are gonna just run grab our mics. We'll be right back that Eels Eli behave I just I'm just saying hi to that. It's fine. I'm sure it'll be fine. Okay, well, we'll be back in one minute. So I have a science question.

Oh, God. No, you're the side babe. I have a science question. Eli, you like no. We discuss this. No. Okay, it's fine. I thought you were an educator. I had a question for my friend, event about science. I want to learn. Won't be a better person trying to figure

someone with a master's degree who speaks all over the world. We'll be willing to help. But I guess I was wrong. Okay. Okay. Fine. What's your question? Where is the Borgina? I hate you. Is it on the leg? I've seen people point at their legs. I fucking hate you. And now that my blood pressure has finally returned to triple digits, We can get back to the breakdown. And we're going to start off with a, uh, with a Canadian PSA, like a Sesame Street PSA about how safe vaccines are.

Now keep in mind, this comes immediately after this poor mother completely breaking down about what a useless autistic child she has. Then we go straight into like telling four year olds, no, no, it's okay. Not sure what they were shooting for here. It really felt like some more of my guerilla post production. Yeah, it's just like, can you believe they tell children this? I guess that's what they're going for. So the kids are gonna show up for the vaccines themselves

like hopping. Hey, my mom and dad saw through your lies, but a hip hop kid on Sesame Street told me this was, oh, no, I can count. Well guys, guys, even Elmo was in on it. It must be a conspiracy. He was heckled into all his own. For the population of the artisans.

And now this movie is going to try to start to make its case because apparently this movie was attempting to make a case. And the case is, did the CDC commit fraud. Right. And notice that they phrased that as a question, you know, I'm sure there are attorneys who are like, no, no, no, no, but if you put a question mark there, all of a sudden it's okay. It's a geniable culpability or some bullshit like that. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I'm talking to my lawyer about it. So we start off with

exhibit number one deviation from analysis plan. Now this is obviously designed for people who don't know science from a fucking hole in the ground because he's like, he starts off like, if you deviate from the analysis plan, you're committing scientific fraud. And if there's one thing Andrew Wakefield knows, hold on, hold on, wait a minute. But the point is, this very much depends on why you change the analysis plan. That's not like just a blanket. Oh, well, then now it's fraudulent kind of a statement. There was just so much wrong with this section. It was crazy.

Do it, shall I rant? Oh, by all means, by all means. I mean, holy fuck, all means, by all means. I mean, holy fuck the section, made my brain hurt. So here goes, because I've actually been a working scientist in a GLP lab, which means good laboratory practices. And those practices are very heavily monitored and regulated by the government. So yes, you can deviate from an initial plan.

It happens all the time, even in GMP and GLP studies. You just have to very carefully record why and what you were, like you have to record down to, like when you took your fucking gloves off and who took a shit and which toilet and right down the fucking details, taking data from the most accurate source is normal. Like they were complaining that like in this study, they chose to take, what was it?

They chose to take the racial data from school records as opposed to birth certificate data. Now these children had moved and might not have had copies of the birth certificate. And so the school data might have been more accurate. So that deviated from the test, from the initial test plan. Oh no.

Like one thing that they'll accuse studies of sometimes is p-hacking, so that they get the data to look like they wanted to look. This is not that. This was getting, making sure they had the most accurate data, which is fine. It happens in studies frequently, and it's just to make sure you have the best data,

not to make it look like you want to look. So then, in this section, they get no-bell guy. Nobel guy, a guy who won a Nobel prize to say that there's a vaccine autism link. Look, the guy did wonderful works of virologists. He was the one who studied and isolated the HIV virus that caused AIDS. This doesn't mean that he was more than last in his med school class when it came to genetics or epidemiology studies. It's also sad that he's picking and

choosing which conspiracies he believes, because there are conspiracies all over the fucking place that the CDC invented the AIDS virus or that they're hiding a cure for AIDS. And of course, he would say that's nonsense, but this one, he's done none of the research on personally. He buys into that that good age researcher, but a total asshole when it comes to autism. Yeah, and that's, that's Luke Montanier and he looks like Andy Rooney dressed up for putting on the ritz. And we should point out that he's a scientist again, like you've said, who helped a tremendous

amount with the categorizing the AIDS virus, who then went on to create a home meopathy cure for virus. Well, right. This is not someone who sits at the grown-up table in any part. He's the Nobel Prize's second biggest embarrassment. He looks like he should be explaining why he turned Jason born into a super soldier. But I did want to clear up one thing, event from a scientific point of view, because the character, the Mexican John Love, it's very clearly says that the, this CDC whistleblower was the, his words numbers guy. Now, that is a real designation, right?

When you do science, somebody has to be the numbers, guess like the banker in Monopoly. They're lower like data scientists, but most of the time the person, and I mean, this could be lab to lab. A lot of times the person who does the study, and this was, I worked at three different labs. I always crunched my own numbers, but you'd also have a secondary and sometimes a third and fourth scientist looking over your numbers and your data. And sometimes the data was looked over by somebody who wasn't even in the same building as you to make sure your numbers were right. So that was a drastic oversimplification. Yeah, it struck me as this, which well, I mean, like down to their actual, the data they

show, because they show this graph after fucking Andy Rooney gets done talking, which according to the growth rate on this graph, by the time this movie came out, all of Japan would be autistic. And, and, and, because we get to eventually Stephanie set up and I think we're going to discuss her later and she's the one that gave those numbers and she's a fucking piece of work. And then we get to meet Dan Weldon, Dr. Congressman who looks like the janitor from scrubs decided to mess with JD by bringing back measles. And he's literally just there to say that the CDC is biased in favor of drugs.

Like that, his argument seems to be just like, oh man, they can't get enough drugs. They're just throwing them through off the CDC. You couldn't, they put out a new kind of aspirin every week. It could not be less scientific or true. Okay. And also look, and we got to, we got to mention this at least if big pharma was in it for the money, wouldn't they rather be selling treatments for measles, mumps and rubella? I mean, vaccinating against diseases, even if you have the most

terrible fucking imaginable motives is still the less lucrative thing, right? Yeah, and I earn long all the treatments for polio, keeping somebody alive after they get polio is way more profitable for big pharma than the vaccine for polio. It's not even close. So all the arguments that polio or that vaccines are a boon for the vaccine or for the pharmaceutical industry are just bunk. All you have to do is look up the numbers and compared to a boner pill, a statin, a happy pill, they don't make anywhere near as much money because you have to take those pills every day or however often you guys get laid. But it's not even close.

Like a blockbuster drug is not a vaccine. It's anything that gets your blood pressure down or gets your dick hard. Like this is just ridiculous. Yeah, something that you have to take more than three times in your life. Yeah, and I hope you're taking both or pills more than three times in your life if you need them. I'm just saying. I'm looking out for your dick. Speak for yourself. I'm looking times in your life. Yeah, and I hope you're taking butter pills more than three times in your life.

If you need them, I'm just saying. I'm looking out for your dick. Speak for yourself. I'm looking out for your dick, guys. I really am. Okay, and then we go to the only person looking for an out for my dick and having trouble. So the, but yeah, but in this stupid fucking movie, we've got this idiot standing for

the camera going like, yeah, that CDC, they want to give you vaccinations all the way into your adulthood. They want to vaccinate away all the diseases, those in human monsters. This is where we meet Brandy Vaughn, who's famously a piece of shit, by the way. This is not, you know, this is a cavalcade of pieces of shit, but her and Andy Wakefield are going to have like contests for who the demons can get to first when they finally make it down to hell. Because she's a former Merck sales rep and also the founder of the council for vaccine safety, who by the way, just like to give you an example, this is a place who literally does their

absolute best to sound like a government agency. when you go to their actual website their catchphrase on their website is quote real health doesn't come from a pillar of shot. She looks like she should star in a pharma shill in grace. Oh my gosh, she's horrible. We have to acknowledge this. Yes, Viox was a disaster. And there were people in the room like who Objected to viox going on the market. So like let's admit yes occasionally bad drugs go out despite all the safeguards

We have in place and then they're taken off the market, but she tells a zillion lies about vaccines Let's see like one of the things she says is that there are is that they're not Tested as thoroughly and they're not monitors as thoroughly. They go through the same safety testing, they go through pre-clinical and then phase one through three trials. And then what we call, they go through the vaccine safety data link. I had an interview with Paul off it for an article I wrote a while ago and he talked to me about the vaccine safety data link. I had an interview with Paul off it for an article I wrote a while ago and he talked to me about the vaccine safety data link. So we monitor, unlike drugs, they, I mean, drugs are monitored after they're on the market, but there's a much stricter monitoring that happens for vaccines after they're on the market called the vaccine safety data link to see what if there are any other side effects that happen. So vaccines have continuous monitoring for a while after they're on the market. So she's just telling blatant boldface lies about

this to parents. And it's because she has a financial interest because she has a company about this. Right. Well, and then on top of that and they get come back to this, like several people come back to this over and over again, they say, well, they don't do large scale double blind randomized. I'm thinking like to the extent that they're talking about this, they're saying, well, they don't like give kids fake vaccines and for dozens of years and see how much rubella they get. What they do is for safety testing, they'll do for some kids, they'll do a shot of saline,

for some, they'll do a shot with just the adjuvant, and for some kids, they'll do the shot of the full vaccine to see what the reactions are. And the problem with people seeing a vaccine's work is they have to, like, basically, if a vaccine works, nothing happens. Right. So, one of the things they're testing for is it does literally nothing happen is this state do you get any side effects so that's one of the hardest part about this but that's why we have the vaccine safety data link after you've done the phase three trials with you know three to ten thousand

people because after it goes into a population and tens of millions of people get it you might see different side effects so that's why we do have the safety data link but there is no safety safety data link for boner pills or for statins or things like that. So there is an extra level of monitoring that she just leaves out. Well, okay, but if vaccines weren't evil, why would they be making them with industrial equipment? I think they showed us, like, it's supposed to be scary, I guess. They show this like modern lab producing vaccines like we're supposed to be there.

Isn't that normal? I mean, like, look how many have what a lady with a cauldron be more comfortable? So if you scared that vaccines aren't made by oompa loompas, I want somebody who's chanting double, double toil and trouble fire, fucking bird and that's what I want for my vaccines. Oh, yeah, hells yeah. You need some fucking eye of newton there. It's just not going to work.

So now we're back to young Scott Bay. I went in the Tina Fey wig where she almost like completely loses the legitimacy here because she's like, when I look at autism, I don't look at it from a behavioral perspective. I prefer to just start sentences and kind of fumble around until you turn the camera off. Yeah. My notes here are, was it caused by chemtrails, ghosts? Well, these are the questions. Antonio Ben Deris in a wig wants to answer. This is where she starts going off on what's just like the GMO is in the toxins. My stupid is multilingual,

y'all. Okay. She says that autism is the inability to detoxify the way you need to. But how do we get from vaccines to toxins and pesticides and GMOs in a movie called G. Right. I don't understand it. Right. And pesticides are different than GMOs. GMOs the food part.

That's the food you eat the GMO, right? The pesticides is a separate thing. It goes on like the outside. Well, you don't wash an apple well enough. Might as well be a GMO. They're just, they're crossing the woost frames. Never cross the woost frame. You see.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and this was also, and, and, and, and, and this one competed for like the hardest part of this movie to watch because this is where they're, you know, they're talking about all the toxins in the horrors. And so they have to show you an autistic kid so you can feel terrible again. And this time they're showing that British couples kid who is, he's a grown adult. He's like 19 years old or something like that. And the kid is clearly freaking out, but he's clearly freaking out because there's a camera in his bedroom and strangers following him around. Like he's very clearly freaking out not because he's autistic,

but because he's autistic and they're making a movie like using him as a prop. I've seen worse behavior on the vashlorette. Right. Look what the birth control. In the ass for the fucking for forget his video game taken away for fuck's sake. But yeah, that was so painful to watch because they're like, oh, because this is where they're going like, you know, oh, autistic people are violent. You should fear them or a, you know, and then they show this kid freaking out because they're making this movie. And then it literally that scene ends with her going, look, I have no other reason to talk about this. And then it literally flash cuts to her fucking magazine. This would be like me being

like, I have no reason to review this movie. And then patreon.com appearing at this point in the future. Right. You're just dropping out in right there. And now it's time to drag MIT's good name through the mud via fucking Franz Westai Beethoven. This is proof that tenure is not always a good

thing. Yeah. And this is someone we should actually know because she's someone who's so stupid Steve Navella has taken the time to point out what an asshole she is. Yeah, yeah, she's, but yeah, so Native American Kathy Bates from misery is explaining to us that autism is new. Well, okay, first of all, and again, you don't have to put this in your movie. You won't require to buy law.

You did this on purpose. Before she talking about this that they they have her saying well my education is an electrical engineering and computer science sounds like a vaccine expert to me yeah and it's even worse that dances with Ted Kennedy fp in computer science and and electron engineering from MIT and then she says Literally Exponential growth is really scary. What like no context. She doesn't say which exponent

Scary adding thing that I learned at MIT You fucking kidding me. It's clearly her her her background isn't in math Or or logic. There's no math. I'm going to throw out words that I think my followers don't know to scare them. She looks like she should be telling you a story about Buffalo and Wolf walking across the plane. And that's probably would have gone better than her testimony in this movie.

I have a BFA in drama. I'm surprised they didn't come to me. Well, okay, but here's the thing. She says in this little clip, she's like by 2032, according to my numbers, 80% of males will be autistic. I'm like, that's a pretty good indicator that your data are fucked, right? I mean, like why not go to 2034 when your data show 111% of people will be autistic? Well, here's the other thing is that she released a paper last year saying that it was

like a life phosphate around the active ingredient in roundup. So is that she released a paper last year saying that it was like a life-awesome. The act of ingredient in roundup. So why is she in a movie called Vax blaming it on the vaccines? Because last year it was like a life-awesome. She's like, oh no, no, no, I got the wrong way. I got the wrong way. It's now this... I'm like, plucks on my back. She's a really... This is just bad science entirely. It's because like this shouldn't just make people who follow this at least like pause for a second ago. There's something fucked up with her date. Absolutely.

I'm just very, they're terrifying. That's the whyax. He's in particularly the why. I'm just saying. If Andrew Wakefield thinks that my common shit aren't poisonous. Why doesn't he drink them on national Money where your mouth is Andy and then the movie basically comes up and says Vaccines not just a problem for the Negroes anymore. Yeah, literally. It's like wait I wanted it to be like a record scrunchdowns like

Wait up white people this doesn't just affect black lives and a bunch of moms in middle America like honey rewind the movie This might be us. Oh, apparently we do have to listen and this is where we're gonna talk about isolated autism and all I could Think about was yeah, Andy. That's your natural hair color. We're all buying that Yeah, well, you know when I need a source. I don't know about you guys, I go to an anti-fax YouTube channel, right? Like isn't that where you go for all your event? I haven't published papers, you worked in a lab. You usually just looked for a YouTube channel that agreed with you, right?

It's absolutely, that's where all major scientific discoveries start. Even before YouTube was a thing, we started looking on YouTube. That's totally where we got cures, and I'm sure that is where Bill Gates got everything that launched computers being a thing today. It's how we do our work. And what's still fucking crazy about this is they intercut this footage of these parents who don't understand, which again is heartbreaking because you really do feel for these parents.

They're just under educated, but they intercut this with a doctor going, I mean, your experience isn't data. And then another mother being like, my child got vaccinated. He went blind. He lost his speech. He turned into a fox and ran into the forest I do sign him up for the fucking X-Men Well, that's but but literally though that's what this movie doing is doing is it is it's presenting a bunch of clips of Experts people with education saying no no no this is wrong and then it's countering that with a bunch of people from

YouTube a bunch of parents that, no, no, I just wanted one parent whose kid died of measles to flying tackle into the carol. I didn't happen. And but they actually start at this point having little kids deliver their fucked up message. Oh, and by the way, the kid, the thing the kid is saying is wrong. Your sister is not seven times more likely to hat get autism if she gets the shot she seven times more likely to be diagnosed because she went to the fucking doctor and doctors diagnosed those things here let me play

chinese kids are a thousand times more likely to have a broken arm if they go to the doctor instead of staying home and covering it in paste and paper towel. To goosh. Like, watching the kids being used for this video just reminds me of seeing every time a kid's at a political rally saying, I love Trump. Jesus for Donald Trump. I'm like, aw, you porch, I owe your parents have been doctorated you. And that's what's happening here.

It's this indoctrination. Yeah. Into this horrible call. It's this kid swinging his little sister on the fucking swing sand? I really hope my parents don't vaccinate my 18 month old sister. She'll be way easier to beat it wrestling if she has polio. Really tough to fucking watch. And then we move on to exhibit to a mission of data. Right. And this is where we learn that the best they could do for a credentialed person on their side is a crazy congressman from Indiana, from the Mike Pence state.

Yeah, Dan Burton, who thinks Bolivia has a right. And by the way, probably did a whole bunch of illegal shit like and got away with it. So just while we're talking about fucking skeptical sources here, Dan Burton's just about his reliable as let me think of someone random Andrew, another fucking way. Tell us how you really feel. Don't hold that. Oh, I hope they both get eaten by lizzers. If there was a dick lizard, a lizard that was a dick and started eating at your dick,

I would wish it on both these gentlemen. Well, come on. And Dan Burton, we have this fucking footage of Dan Burton at a congressional hearing just slathering into a microphone. You know, who's going to take care of the tards, huh? You're going to take care of the people you broke. Yes, it's Christ. So, and then like like what is the face?

One of the producers, sorry, the medical investigator, starts ranting that the whistleblower says that there are sensitive materials. And one of the emails talks about sensitive materials. He's like, what's so sensitive about scientific materials? They can't be, you know, these are just, these are just scientific. How can these be sensitive?

I'm like, okay, you misunderstand the meaning of the word sensitive. Now, I used to have a secret clearance because I worked for a Homeland Security contractor. There are terms like secret, top secret classified and one of those designations is sensitive. So, he's like, how could it be sensitive? I'm like, this could have been fixed with a fucking Google search you idiots. Right. You know, kind of like all of your medical knowledge. Yeah, no shit. And you can you believe the head of the CDC brought a lawyer for a hearing with a

congressman? What is she hiding? Right. They actually say that. I was supposed to goodwill. Hundreds of years. Right. You're hearing. No, seriously.

Right. Yes. We have a weekly meeting with a lawyer and we do a comedy podcast. Right. Perf's sake people. And then we move on. So after that damning evidence, I guess, is what we're calling it. We move into exhibit three, which is destruction of evidence. And by the way, the fucking, the evidence that the evidence was destroyed, that the argument is based on the fact that this evidence doesn't exist.

Therefore it must have been destroyed. And not the guys, this is what's so fucking crazy, not the guys saying they destroyed evidence, but a guy saying a guy meant they destroyed evidence. I love that the douche broos want to be journalists. Thanks. The scientific study is really simple. He says he's like, yeah, this test plan, yeah, this test plan should have been done in six months and been fine. That's not how scientific studies work.

Like they take a long time. They can, you have to redesign your studies sometimes. Shit breaks. People leave your lab. You have to rehire people. Equipment leaks, you have mental breakdowns, sometimes three of them, you run out of coffee in the lab, that's a big problem, trust me.

And then you have to sometimes have to start the whole fucking thing over again when you realize your initial question wasn't even the right question to be asking, but sure, the guy who produces the doctors is the right guy to be designing a test per se for the fucking CDC. Well, yeah, this guy worked for Spoondoctor Phil, I'm sure he knows some. And he's got this fucking amazing moment where he's like, look, once you have the data, it's pretty easy to just run it and put it in a paper. We asked our buddy Andrew, he said it was really super dumb.

Andrew, Andrew who lost his medical life. Yeah, yeah. Well, and that's though, like his argument is literally like, how could a government project be over budget and take longer than expected? Also, both. As Boston and the big gig. Yeah. And what are the big piece of this conspiracy is apparently that scientists work in labs and for companies like the public sector and the private sector are where signed, that's all the sectors, that's nothing.

That's not a coincidence, that's an identity of words. You can. Also, okay, so just to give you a very clear idea of what kind of out of context bullshit, we're talking about with this whistleblower, this is an actual quote, this is the entire thing. This is all we hear from this guy, we've just heard about, oh, evidence was destroyed. Blah, blah, blah, from other characters, from other people in this movie. And then to back that up, they play this out of context quote, the higher ups wanted to do certain things. And I went along with it in the chain of command

I was number four out of five. That's it. That could be a quote about a butt stuff congal line for all we fucking know. Certain things is the incriminating fucking noun here. Yeah, that could be a lunch for us. Yes. Yeah, right. I didn't want to do Chinese. That's exactly what that would be. So then we learned that Fatsadam Hussein, once he was going to publish the paper, the CDC

hitmen were after him. Oh, my fucking God. They literally suggested the CDC has in the house assassins. Yeah, if Bill Thompson doesn't get murdered by the Cubans, the mafia, and the CIA, this whole movie makes no sense. Okay, because they start off like he was a marked man and I'm like, Tee, he, he, oh, what is he going to get assassinated? But later they said the fear is that we would be dredging the river for William Thompson killed by the CDC. What? And this is also a crazy moment because we cut to like the CDC already talking to Congress

about this and we get a shot of fucking bill posi. Yes. Um, and Bill fucking posi who knows about as much about vaccines as I do about editing and not eating on the recordings, is fucking talk to him and he's like, hey, have you done a study with vaccinated kids versus unvaccinated kids and how they get autism and the woman's like, well, no, because of our shit ton of reasons. We haven't done it at this time, but we did test the thing that you people said was the problem and it's not.

And he's like, answer the fuck. I'm a play citizen. You quit wasting my time with these guys. I'm a college man and I let me sign up a doctor. This whole thing was so crazy. And here's the thing, the thing that they wanted to be tested now has we've done studies.

We've tried to see if there is a is a vaccine autism like it link by looking at Cases of autism and vaccinated kids versus unvaccinated kids. We have tested for that now and studied it there are no increased Events of autism in in vaccinated kids are unvaccinated kids like it's there just they're the right people right the only only differences that the unvaccinated kids get old timey diseases. The teensy tiny, yeah, the teensy tiny baby coffins rates or rates of sales are much higher in the unvaccinated kids. And now it's time for more YouTube wisdom. This time via whiteboard. Yes, from the fucking Canary Party.

The Canary Party, a political party, started for, quote, a movement created to stand up for victims of medical injury, environmental toxins, and industrial food by restoring balance to our free and civil society

and empowering consumers to make health and nutrition decisions that promote wellness Unquote you cannot put words in an order that more means I don't know how science is Right when when does a food become industrial by the way if you make like 11 pieces at ease is that a 10 like what is it the fuck are you talking about? I think it's when like you shoot nails into it Industrial right and and they have their little five or fucking white board The fuck are you talking about? I think it's when you shoot nails into it. Oh my god, it's like that's industrial. Right.

And they have their little five or fucking whiteboard video. Yeah. And in this video, they make the claim they say, dozens of papers show that autism and vaccines are linked, at which point almost all of our notes say, name one, one paper you lying fucking whore, fucking kid killing ass fucker ass ass fuck you fuck your Show me one fucking paper if that paper existed this would be god awful vaccines

It doesn't fucking exist the only paper I can think of is the one that was made by the guy who produced your goddamn movie And now he has to call himself mr. fucking producer god damn movie and now he has to call himself mr. fucking way. Here's the thing whenever like whatever vaccines show up my page and I have a meme go viral about vaccines I always get loaded with people who they'll do a search on Google scholar that says autism and vaccines and they won't link to an individual study because there are no individual studies linking the two but the link to vaccines and autism the Google

right right and say here there's a link I'm like that's not a gas code to understand science but here's a there is they misrepresent uh... bears and the vaccine court in the section because they talk about the government paid out three billion dollars or whatever the number was uh... like here's think about anything i know i said this earlier anything that happens six months after a vaccine even with no direct proof of it happening as a result of your vaccine can be attributed to the fucking vaccines. And even without presenting sufficient proof, the government can pay out, and the government

will pay out instead of the vaccine company because it's safer for public health that the government pays out instead of the vaccine company being sued out of existence because they make the vaccine and that keeps people safe from the diseases. So this way, these assholes can say, look, they're protecting the companies. It's like, no, they're protecting public health by keeping people vaccinated. So it's just, it's nuts the way that it can present everything being caused by the vaccine. Well, and, and honestly, and I've got to say this, if anybody has made it this far in the show, who is an anti-vaxxer or whatever, consider this.

If they were making any effort whatsoever to be honest with you, they would have just presented that information along with it and then argued about why that's wrong, right? They make no effort to explain why the government, the vaccine court exists. What's so ever? They presented as this like evil, insidious fucking thing that we should all be pissed off about. They make no effort to actually explain why it's there. How it is funded when it came into being, you know, what the justification for it was. It's just like as far as they would have you believe it is a dark thing that happens in the basement of the Illuminati main chamber below the Pentagon.

Yeah, and why aren't they checking for anything else besides vaccines? Like all these two-year-olds have autism. Like let's check one-year-old birthday parties. Like, what the fuck? Why aren't they checking the homeopathic medicines that these parents are also determined to give their kids? Yeah, no shit. And then finally, I guess we're wrapping up our case because we finally get exhibit

number four, obstruction of justice, which basically there are you are here is after we've proved that they were wrong. We didn't keep spending taxpayer money to continue to prove that they were wrong more. Right. And this is where the person speaking on screen is fucking wake fields. Yes. Oh, cross side Gary Bucy. Yeah.

Not the most credible looking guy. Maybe just have the tinkerbell fly around and have him talk. Andrew should fight this guy on the top of a mountain. That would be awesome. By the way, at this point, he claims that the CDC created a fraudulent study and they do it really quickly because they're really hoping no one will notice. But what they're talking about is the series of studies the CDC did after this initial one proving this same point over

and over and over again. And since they don't want to address that, they don't want to point out the multitude of other studies that have done, that have been done by the CDC and other agencies. They just point out that the CDC, I mean, they fucked around with the data and created a fraudulent study here and there. But anyways, I'm the one who did a not so great job on Andy's case. I just think it's amazing that Wakefield no longer a doctor for publishing a fraudulent study called somebody else a fraud. I ran out of popcorn, at least to Matt.

He worked out. Right. And then we get back to fucking whatever's meld, large cock or whatever the hell his name was. And he starts, these are literally the sources being cited in this movie. This guy says into Camry's like, I got a call from a guy last fall. That's it. That's the source. And then he tells us what that guy said. And he said, and what the guy said was, I'm going to blow this thing wide open. And then it

didn't blow wide open. Ergo someone killed that guy that called him. He goes, look, I'm going to submit your story and it's going to blow people's minds. And yet no one covered it. I mean, it's not because I associated it with a proven fraud and liar, but it's because of mainstream media. Me and Donald have the same opinion. They're all trying to get Hillary elected. And she keeps vaccinating kids personally. She says it keeps her young.

And then we get what I think is the single, shittiest, single worst moment of this movie, which is he's, he basically, he says instead, everyone focused on that measles bullshit from the beginning. Right. And we cut to Antonio Banderas in a wig and she has the fucking audacity. The fucking audacity to go, why are everyone so weirded out by these couple dozen cases of measles when we should be talking about autism.

And I just wrote my notes, yep, I'm going to kill her. You're going to murder. I mean, yep, I'm gonna kill her. You're gonna mirror this gun and murder. I mean, like, here's the thing, the story to me here isn't even that his show wouldn't air it. The story to me here is that the producer of the doctors, a mainstream medical, quote, unquote, medical show, is anti-vax. Also that his name is Del Big Tree.

Yeah, right. But it's like, this is just, you know, a little more proof that anything you're getting from the doctors is bullshit. Yeah, no kidding. Because after we get the fucking, you know, after we get fucking food, babe, and black face explaining that we all really should be focusing on the, on all the brains we damage, we have the two normal doctors being convinced. Yes. And this is where they're where they're boss walks over the

camera and is like, so totally unbiased. Tell me what you think of this. I need to tell you people, if we did a video where Noah just walks over and hands me David Ike's book and goes, pretty invested in this, making a movie about it. What do you think? I'd be like, I mean, the queen, I haven't seen her lately. She could be. Oh, I quit my day job for this. Well, and that's exactly it. Again, if the anti-vaxxers are listening along, keep that in mind. This guy never told you he is that person's boss. And so weird. The way he heads into the paper is. He's like, he's like, yeah, read this stack of papers and studies. Take as long as you want. You want to shuffle it again?

Cut. Go ahead. Whatever you want to do. And just let me know when you're done. Yeah. We'll come more kids. Yeah. It was very subtle that he just kind of slipped

into people who were on his show. And it's like, here's the thing. One of the doctors is, again, Dr. Bob's here's brother who's being investigated right now for gross medical negligence. And both of them have written anti-vaxx books. Oh, like before this fucking documentary was made. So it was just, it was poorly represented

that to say that these people were pro-vaccine before the show. I don't know about the other doctor who was from the show, but Bob and Jim Sears are not pro-vax and really haven't been for most of their careers. So this was just, this was just them saying yes to their boss because they like having a job. Yeah, and Jim Sears is like, it was like a huge revelation for him at this point. Wait, so are you saying the CDC tricked me into giving kids autism for 10 years? But why?

And seen right? Yeah, exactly, exactly. Fill in your own blank there. So then we get the only fucking elective representative, Dumber than in Hoff doing his rant on C span about, you know, like, well, we demand that this happened and that happened. And what was the other thing? Y'all told me to say, if I wanted to be in the movie, yeah, snowballed measles.

Fucking, fucking Bill Posey again, who looks like the anti-Christ from the passion grew up to be bill pose. And then they even mentioned in the fucking movie that Thompson is going to publish a paper about there not being a link between vaccines and autism, but hooker instead takes that moment to be like, sounds like a cover up to me. Yeah, they got to a must have got to. Yeah.

It's like at the beginning of this, it still drives me crazy. At the beginning of this, they say Thompson didn't know he was being recorded. Like shouldn't that have tipped off even the people that are most invested in this, that something was wrong with how they're representing what this person said? No, of course not. Apparently not. And then Transbate, Oven back up the reminders that were a mere 16 years from autism opolis. Yeah. And then we get a, the last fucking scene of this movie is there with the very pretty

lady doctor who really wanted to be a model, but it just didn't work out so she settled medical school. And they ask her on camera, will you tell people to vaccinate your kids? And long story short, Cich says no. Yeah. And then we get the fucking after credits every seven minutes. A child is diagnosed with autism. Call your leaders and demand the following.

Three years worth of cheese. For people's children to stop dying. Horace, this list of people. We asked a bunch of real scientists to be part of this and they said, you're a fraud and an asshole. Directed by a proven fraud. They actually said that none of these people would be at our stupid fucking documentary, unbelievable.

And seriously, every seven seconds, well, I just diagnosed 70 million kids with autism myself. Now it's like every, always. It's all of them every zero seconds. All the kids have autism. Jesus. Well, and the fucked up thing is that it's actually like the rate at which kids die of vaccine preventable illnesses is higher than the rate of autism. So even if like autism was an inevitable result of these vaccines, it would still be better off with that much autism. So even if autism was an inevitable result of these vaccines, it would still be better off with that much autism.

The funny thing is, a lot of the people that I know who are anti-vax, when I've asked them, would you get vaccinated if you had to travel to a part of the world where it's necessary to be vaccinated to go there? They're like, yeah, I would. I'm like, oh, so you believe in vaccines when it comes to go to a place where there are still vaccine preventable illnesses that could fucking kill you. Like, it's just because they realize that they're protected by the good work

that vaccines have done here and they don't realize how good they have it here because of the fucking vaccines. Right, whether that could go away. Yeah. Yeah, and that's the big vaccines. Right. What if that could go away? Yeah. Yeah. And that's the big one. Yeah.

They would you have never seen anyone who had polio and you have never seen what measles can do to a fucking population. If a lot of people get it, then there is no real incentive in your little insulated universe for it. But yes, all that shit could come back. Exactly. Yeah. Right. And as soon as you move out of the spoiled ass little world, people are like, GMOs and

vaccines as many as we can get. They're like, there are about a hundred cases of polio last year. We're really close to wiping it out, but all it would take will be for somebody who's carrying polio to get on a plane. And who doesn't know they have it yet to get on a plane to L.A., where we have a lower rate of vaccinations than, you know, the Sudan and cough. And who doesn't know they have it yet to get in the plane to LA where we have a lower rate of vaccinations than the Sudan and cough. And I really don't want that to happen.

I don't want us to learn this lesson by having a bunch of innocent children be maimed because their parents got horrible information and fell for it. I never want that to be the lesson because a lot of people turned pro vaccine after the measles outbreak. I just, I'd never want that to be the lesson we learned because of polio. Well, right. Like this is not a situation where anyone wants to say, I told you so. Let's just stick with the floor, I think. I feel like that's a lot of it. Yeah, we can make them better enough just. Yeah. So, so I feel like we've made our feelings about the movie clear throughout. No, no, no need to dwell on how many stars we'd withhold

from it. But I do want to try to convey the misery of sitting through this movie to the audience. So tell me, what old timey disease would you have to contract to most closely approximate what you suffered through in watching this horrible piece of shit. Oh, I'm going to say her piece. Okay. Good thing that doesn't exist anymore, right? It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's,

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So I learned I'm hoping this works. Now according to this movie, if you're a scientist, you know everything about all the sciences. So you're. Yeah, I'm a, I'm apparently an astrophysicist too. Awesome. Unless you ask Twitter, or I've been told I'm a fake scientist. Well, you know, we also learned that you can trust Twitter in this movie too. So yeah, I guess very accurate.

Oh, yeah. According to Twitter, everybody knows everything unless they've actually been to school for it. Right. Yeah. That's, that's the rule of Twitter for science. Well, I think we made it through the whole movie, but of course, if our audience is now addicted to your scathing,

wit and clever in you, and no, where can they go to get their fix? They can head over to Facebook.com slash side babe and side babe.com. And because I'm on Twitter, and I occasionally like to rent political on there, it's at the side babe. Awesome. And of course, we'll have all three linked on the show notes for this episode. Again, thanks so much for suffering alongside us again. No problem. Thank you for having me guys. And well, that does it for our review of Vax. That's not going to do it for the episode just yet because we still need to promise something less depressing next week.

So Eli, tell us what's on deck? Confessions of a prodigal son. We're working our way all the way through K-sorbs, Goddamn filmography. We earned some K-sorbs next week. Right. This one looks rough. It's just like plain vanilla Christian movie.

It's just like man whose Christian has a son who leaves and then drives back home later and is Christian. It looks awful. I gotta say, it is probably the worst acting I've ever seen inside a preview. Like normally if the acting is that bad, they don't put it in the preview. Yeah. It was incredibly bad. So this may be the worst non-vulture-centric movie we've reviewed. Well, the worst made anyway. I don't think there's any competition anymore for the worst movie we've ever watched. Hopefully there never will be again at this point.

So with that to look forward to, we'll bring up episode 59 on Merciful Close. Once again, a huge thanks to the side babe for hanging out with us tonight. And again, you'll find a link to her Facebook page and her blog on the show notes for this episode. Again, a huge thanks to all the Patreon donors that help make the show go. If you'd like to cat yourself among their ranks, you can make a per episode donation at patreon.com slash God awful. That's patreon.com slash God awful. And thereby earn early access to an ad free version of every episode. You can also help us a ton by leaving us a five star review on iTunes and by sharing the show on all your various social media platforms. And if you enjoy this show, be sure to check out our sibling shows,

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I'm no illusions promising to work hard to earn all the chunk next week until then we'll leave you with a breakfast club close Luckily half the world did not get autism by 2032 Because we all died of plague Andrew Wakefield eventually did get right by those herpetic Kodiak bears. You shared this episode everywhere you could. We got sued by those fuck nuggets and Andrew slapped them around like the bitches they are. Hell yeah.

And much better get them! What the hell? Andrew Wakefield will be down. Actively. and much better get him with the ginger wigs don't give a damn actively so this first item here says anyone who listens to our show should find Andrew Wakefield and plonk

hi even red alright Hi, Feverd Red. Alright. Okay, so this item here says, Anyone who listens to our show should find Andrew Wakefield and punches balls until he dies? We're several dirty takes leading up to another clean take. No, no, I think I think we've got everything we need for that. All right.

Or were you just trying to make Andrew say it again? Because if so, we go back and I can say, oh no, yeah, no, I am going to need that again. The preceding podcast was a production of Puzzle and a Thunderstorm LLC copyright 2016 all rights reserved.