Goes Without Saying - romanticising & autumnal recommendations: podtober #5
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Spooky!
Welcome back to your worst nightmare.
Sethian Wings.
The Spooktacular.
Bonanza.
Bonanza.
Extravaganza. wings the spooktacular bonanza bonanza extra bonanza
something i wanted to say actually yeah you said you have something we're recording yeah this is
important it's important just to get this out in the open once we've um just while we kick this off
today we're recording this is the day of the 1989 Taylor's version release.
Ah, I didn't know.
Just to enlighten, yeah.
And something I think this will be quite important to you.
There's a song from The Vault which has been released.
About Harry Styles.
Oh, well, yes.
Are they all about him on this album?
I mean, who knows?
Who knows?
Who could say? But she does but she does well anyway let's not
speculate but oh no sorry go on i thought you were gonna skip past the thing what's the song
from the vault no no no no no no oh this i'm gonna say just because i think it's important
for you to know this yeah she has a song on this album now from the vault what was that that was a hair clip like um it sounded like
almost like you know those little silicone things those little like pop no you know like they look
like this oh those things that kids like the kind of the new fidget spinners of the world what are
they called they're like little my little sister has a her ipad case the back of it is it's quite cool what is it um
what's the word for it i don't know but i think everyone will know what we mean those things that
kids play with that pop the bubbles and i hate the feel of that silicone because it's just like
feels grubby think of all the filth yeah on that filth it's almost like you walk through tiger and
you can't help but touch it all but you know that you've got sticks to you yeah speaking of pure filth song from the vault it's called you might know this it's called
quotation slut exclamation mark slut shut slut your mouth it's called you're kidding me oh my
god i already know i love it it's my favorite song but i need to listen to it with you i need
have you not listened?
No, I've listened. Oh my God, I was going to say, what the fuck?
It goes without saying.
But I'm assuming you haven't listened.
And I wanted to be in your presence while you listened to it.
Just because I feel like when you do things around Taylor Swift,
I kind of need to just be supervising.
Yeah, yeah.
I need to kind of enjoy it.
Someone said they loved my journey to become a swifty throughout um yes podmas not
whatever the fuck this is called podtober the spooky bonanza extravaganza how could you forget
yeah exactly like i definitely feel like it has been quite a journey with we were saying i'm sorry
i'm just gonna say we were saying just now we were like so this is technically the fifth episode of podtober why does it feel like we're doing this for like 200 years like i feel like i'm in a casket six feet under like
i'm recording this from beyond the grave this has gone on for so long genuinely it feels like we've
been locked in a haunted mansion i'm still fucking sick which i think is the real kicker
it feels like we've been doing this for years and years nothing's gonna prolong something like
count you're counting the days when you're sick it's like every night is measured in like
in health well i was up really early this morning i couldn't help myself and then i realized i was
up and i was like taylor's version is out but i held back such a stunning cover so i know the
cover from a few weeks ago that i saw it and i thought that's a really so many like really beautiful i actually just showed my boyfriend one because i was like i
actually went he's working because he works from home sometimes and i showed him this picture of
taylor swift oh wow that is stunning isn't it and he was like what am i looking at and i was like
just how stunning she is and he was like okay it's. Do you know what? It's not my fault.
Like, I wouldn't see that and be wowed.
Like, some of the ones that I am.
You need to see what her legs are doing.
That doesn't stand out.
Like, she looks stunning as always, but that doesn't.
How I like Taylor, I've realised.
When I watched that movie, The Era's Tall,
I like her dishevelled.
I like her.
Because I think the thing that's always put me off her.
Yes.
Is, yeah it divine and
disheveled yeah i love it that's the photo do you see what i'm saying it's like you've got your legs
open not to be vulgar but you've got your legs open she's sitting like the annoying girls in
assembly oh oh la la the legs kind of it just does something we're talking about obviously the beach
pics based on the rolling stone old obviously
guys obviously everyone knows i just want to just we're all picturing the same thing yeah yeah go on
i think the thing that not even has put me off i think that was already the wrong
choice of words but the thing that has always kind of held me back from really like being drawn to taylor swift really is kind of the like hyper pop um kind of uh
capitalist kind of neatness american vibe i think there's something about that that
does a clean just basically clean girl vibes which i don't know there's a clean girl aesthetic i
would say um which maybe has put me off a little bit but the thing that i was really
drawn to in that era's tour film was just like the sweating hair that started off pinned straight
and ended up waving it waves and i loved it so divine with the vigilante it was so good and i
just don't think she's ever ever ever looked ever looked better. But yeah, anyway, that's the Taylor Swift stuff.
Slut.
Slut.
Wow.
So what's, I already can kind of guess the vibe.
Well, the catch is, and this is why I thought you would like it.
It's something along the lines of, if they're going to call me a slut, let me make it worth it sort of thing.
Yeah, perfect.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's kind of what i thought it would be
that it's like it's kind of the reputation energy it really is i love it oh okay i'm gonna i'm gonna
have to listen to that tonight will you will you film it or like facetime me or something yeah i'll
film it sorry yeah i'll film it that's fine i just need to be there yeah also speaking of um films um you
should go and look on our instagram there's a little treat left scattered among the so many
feed for you um yeah there's a video the video of us but the tarot reader is up in its full
entirety and god if you can get through it i highly admire you
because yeah the thing that i just um like i don't know if it kind of comes across from the video
that how much we are like controlling our faces not to laugh i think you can kind of see it because
it's almost at some points because we're we're being quite boring in the video we're going like
okay yeah yeah we're waiting to be told our destiny forgive me for trying to listen like do you know
what i mean like god we're looking you know to be told something advice anything yeah god forbid
we're looking to be told something so it is an interesting watch like there are many many like
uncomfortable moments like an awkwardness throughout the whole
thing and i if you can sit through the whole thing god i we urge you i'm impressed yeah i urge you to
see it's a real shiver down the spine horror if you can get to the women moment women women women
that is crazy if you can get to that or there's the bit where she calls me stephy like there's
some uncomfortable oh it's so. It's so good.
It's so good.
Hope you enjoy.
You can also see a little,
just a little something,
something of us going to the Eros tour film.
Steffi really enjoyed herself.
Oh boy, did I.
And you can see it in my body language.
The way I'm clapping is mental.
It's so funny.
So yes.
So that's kind of,
that's something I've been enjoying recently
in this kind of festive season the spooky season yeah it's been getting me into my
october podtober vibes so wait is she considered spooky tarot who taylor yeah taylor i think she
just has so many good autumnal she has so many albert teapot yes so stunning me just suddenly weeing
she has so many
um
I would love to do that
what we?
go for a wee
I wouldn't because I feel like there would be some people
that would be insulted but just for the people out there
who like in a way would find that funny
just know there is some sort of
urgent desire there to share that for you but I won't people out there who like in a way would find that funny just know there is some sort of urgent
desire there to share that for you but i won't oh my god well there's nothing bonding like kind
of squatting in a field with someone and waiting squatting like the amount of um great moments i've
had with people squatting in a field it is a great moment it's the sound of the way i think it's both
of you kind of trying not to be on your knickers squatting
holding up your skirt someone complaining because they're in jeans and trying to rush back to the
group like oh my god it's a it's a feminine moment no it is i love it it's a canada whilst
the boys just fucking we on the fucking road i can't stand it shakes head um yeah she has she's got she's got too many songs like she's got so
much to choose from that statistically the chances are if you're looking for something on for example
november 10th it's like oh there's a song that perfectly is november 10th yeah she mentions
november she says what that feels like blah blah blah or oh my god may 5th it's like yeah it's all
there for you like
there's so much to choose from that i feel like you can find the vibes to fit she mentions like
dates and stuff a lot and she you know she sets the scene that's how i feel with the office
there's an episode for everything so every holiday actually that is one of my favorite things to do
is like if i'm not in it's not movie night let's say unfortunately
but it's christmas it's halloween it's some sort of something's happening one of my favorite things
to do is like i can't think of like a spooky halloween film to watch or like oh i can't like
sit down and really dedicate like a night to like oh my god i'm gonna watch a new scary film whatever
one of my favorite things to do is to like revisit characters that i already know and love and already feel so safe
with and just watch the seasonal episodes it's so good it's my favorite thing to do every christmas
me and my family watch which i actually think this is i'm in the habit of watching this at
the moment i do think i don't know if it's like a thing in America it's such like a British TV show but if you don't watch
peep show like if you've never heard of peep show seen peep show I highly I'm putting my reputation
on the line it's a problematic in so many ways show I love it so much I think it is so great
and I think it's one of the funniest shows ever and i think
i recommend it to everybody yeah but every christmas i watch their episode their christmas
episode called seasons beatings and what happened they have like their family it's just kind of the
classic thing they just do their classic shit but i absolutely love that show so much but i watched their new year episode as well
peep show is something about peep show that's kind of asmr gone wrong yeah it's like it's so
uneasy and unsettling you're kind of inside their mouths because it's a point of view
show like you hear their internal fun fact oh god we can tell that we can tell that that's funny well how did it even come up
well i was we were all on a night out and this guy at you at uni that we were with who i was dating
came on the night with us and one of the actors from peep show lived in brighton at the time
i'm not gonna lie he he actually loved me yeah he did
he did i don't know what his relationship status was at the time but i think if i would have said
to him look let's do this i'm 100 i'm not 100 i bet i want to speak to him i put super hands
but he but this actor kind of was joining our gang which was quite weird because this actor is
i would say in his 50s yeah like early 50s i would say late 40s at persh and the guy i was dating i
don't think i was even in this conversation you were kind of like you were there but you probably
you're just staring at him admiring the view yeah but i don't know what it well i don't know
what possessed me to tell this because it's not necessarily something i would do but it must have
been just off the back of this conversation i just had with one of the actors from the show yeah
the actor from the show had been saying oh it was originally going to be called pov right point of
view yeah was it i don't know yeah i'm going from super hands i'm going from there through
the grapevine it's a real chinese whispers from soup hands to you to blah blah blah boy yeah to
me well it was either going to be called pov or point of view it must have been pov i think
surely so then i came back and i said i've just been speaking to the actor from
and i said fun fact he was saying that the show was originally
going to be called pov point of view duh and the guy the ghoul of this guy first of all the
audacity to be dating sephi then said yeah i already know that do you know what is so cringe
about that as well that he was actually
so casual because whilst the whole group was off talking to superhands me and this ghoul guy
were off in our own little ghoul guy
we were off in our own little combo just the two of us and i was like that superhands should we go
talk to him and he was playing it so cool he's like no i'm not really like i like peep show but like i see him around
then he said that to you that he already knew and then he said later that he went and saw his
stand-up that one act it's like yeah you're obsessed with him oh my god i remember that
no he loves superhands he probably had sex with him anyway like don't oh my god i'm i'm a fan
it did piss me off i just thought why are you acting too
cool for school when he's like yeah it's the opposite of that vibe anyway cringe anyway yeah
but anyway it's undeserving oh yeah it goes out saying and the whole situation but hilarious
good vibes though yeah um i mean yeah no good i think good vibes fond feelings good vibes
i'm sure yeah i'm sure yeah but just
it just well anyway yeah it's just men just it's just yeah because i just think
open your eyes but anyway i open your eyes what to superhand
no this boy i have fond feelings to superhands i have i have neutral feelings to the boy in question the
ghoul i just think open your eyes like look around you you silly silly cunt
anyway yeah no i'm sure he's fine but it's just like look he was a child at the time we were like
how old 22 like we can't blame these people i'm you know whatever but
yeah so i would say yeah watch the seasonal episodes of things but peep show i'd highly
recommend the seasonal episodes of that i love that that's the yeah that's the that's me tying
the bow on the end weird thing a whole ghost train of thought going through that okay stunning
what what are your oh no go on i was gonna say what
are you gonna watch this halloween like are you gonna watch a scary movie at all
one i do like and i wouldn't necessarily i don't think it qualifies as a traditional scary movie
but i do love to watch it's embarrassing oh god go on it's embarrassing because you
because we've brought it up recently
i do love to watch the eddie murphy haunted mansion well now we have a whole new story to tell
the other day when we went to see the it was it the earliest we had the longest day so we started
off we were doing like this weird like we woke i woke up at wings house we yeah we had the whole
place to ourselves so we were going mental we woke up we did a 20 minute long like breath work
suddenly realized we were running late for the tarot reader
yeah
that was fun suddenly like we realized that we'd spent our whole morning doing that and it was like
idiots were actually late had to run yeah we were sitting all this coffee and like cakes and it was
really like we're really running running massively had the first tarot reader went live on instagram
then did a second tarot reading just for fun then went ran pretty much walked aussie went to the
fucking eras tour then we got back and i've never been so
tired in my life it was crazy and i said you know what i want to do i want to watch the haunted
mansion and i did as well i wanted to watch it but then we both then i remember you being like
oh i just feel quite sick it's like yeah what are we doing we're so tired i just always feel like
i've never felt so shit and tired of my life yeah we were like
i want to watch it for another two hours and watch the haunted mansion
and the wi-fi wasn't working and i was like why isn't it working
i was like this is so annoying like on the like controller as well like it's not connecting
playstation 5 but oh my god it was so i also want to make it
clear we weren't late for the tarot reader i really want to make that clear oh no we weren't
oh my god absolutely not no we were not late we're just emotionally late we were paying our
good money we were not gonna be late just delayed yeah no we're paying out of our own pockets for
that every second yeah the hefty fee i must say but i do love the haunted mansion it's the it's a really
good level of spooky for me i like like it's not gory it's not scary film it's camp yeah and that's
what i want it's kind of rocky horror yeah i was about to say rocky i love a campness that's why i
like barbie i almost wish there was a barbie halloween oh that's fun barbie and the nutcracker
you've got christmas i'm gonna get sagged
yeah i'm not allowed are we allowed to say this what are you talking about i said i'm gonna get
sagged we can what you can't talk about haunted mansion ethan last night on h3 was talking about
this um the last samurai with fucking tom cruise we can mention that but surely we can talk about
he was loving tom cruise by the way and i thought that's such a red flag from the office from the guy tom cruise no american men love tom cruise
i've never met a british man who loves tom cruise yeah that was that was my philosophy anyway last
night when i was i was shocked that they all loved him and i thought i i wonder if this is
common in america no i know i do know some English boys that love Tom Cruise that would defend him.
Who?
Well, also...
Goulds.
Also...
Goulds.
Bleep the name.
A f***ing female friend.
She doesn't love Tom.
She's obsessed with him.
She's obsessed with him.
It's actually so weird.
Almost, I think,
in a bit of a dad way, though,
she's obsessed with him.
I think she wouldn't want to...
I wonder.
...get with him. I think she wouldn't want to get with him i think
she would oh god goodness god i should hope not no no i think she wouldn't be like oh my god he's
sexy i think she would think like oh i would want no but she respects him at my yeah like i almost
feel like he's a protector of me sort of thing but that's the last person protecting you jesus
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Back to lab. We just had to take a quick break because we're being censored on some things.
Oh, sorry. All of that gone, just to reiterate. Yeah, all of that gone just to reiterate yeah all of that gone okay um okay snacks then
we'll add snacks yeah go on what snacks do you like
um are there any um can i ask you something yeah i'm just actually gonna like properly lie down
yeah yeah are there any new learnings in your life in terms of halloween learnings in my what halloween learnings i don't know just any
new theories you want to propose let me think it's quite a tricky question
do you have anything groundbreaking to tell
us oh yeah i'll just think off the top of my head i think do you know what i maybe do have a learning
this is my first halloween where i don't have a plan which is not my um my preference for
halloween i like to be going to parties i like to be in costume on halloween
yeah so i think it's going to be a bit weird because i last year was iconic my whole group
sort of i designed these me and my friend i can't take all the credit we designed
a ratatouille for everyone famously anton ego i was um year before we did Shrek like I really go in and I'm very very pro handmade
costumes like I really like to go to the charity shop get kind of bits of wire and make like ears
and things like I don't like to just get a full made kit costumes yeah I really love the whole
process of like coming up with like a group thing it doesn't even have
to be a group but I do like making the costumes for other people as well yeah quite so I need
people that are willing just to put on whatever the director of the most people would yeah most
people would want some kind of say in what they're wearing but I feel like that's why it's quite good
to get exactly in the thing because like how you will wear whatever I put you in but this year I don't have anything
to do so I think that's going to be really sad
that's what I was going to say what is your plan
well go on go on I don't really have
any so my granny's coming
over on the day on Halloween
which is nice but not
particularly spooky and
then I might go to the cinema I might see
a horror movie with my sister
and my brother but which will
be really nice but i i don't know i i'm gonna really miss dressing up why don't you dress up
that's what i'm really missing well i might is your sister gonna be saying yeah yeah she's gonna
be here i you know what's always funny about halloween actually one of my best friend's birthday
lies very close to halloween so we would always end up going out for her
birthday and it would be like around halloween and it also always often if it doesn't fall on the same
day it'll be falling on like the night that you're out it'll be that weekend the clocks fall back oh
god so like you're out and it's midnight and then it's still midnight and it's still again the double midnight and you have like a really long night which i feel like is quite
testing but i remember her like shout out to any halloween birthdays out there because
oh my god i remember once i think she might have been might have been her 21st but maybe that's
too predictable maybe it wasn't her 21st but she dressed up it was so iconic it was like this kind
of full black like leotard with cutouts thing laura i'm really shouting you out here she had like really
good ears and it was just i think about what was she she was almost this kind of dominatrix bunny
woman let me find you let me find your photo i often i think about this look often it was a real
showstopper yeah i'm dying to see let me find it i'm not obviously
gonna share with the class but this is from years ago but i still think about it because it was just
such a like so her birthday's on halloween so what people dress it's not on the day it's halloween
night and yeah it's always like it's her birthday but but like she has to dress up but i remember her saying
like i don't want to dress up for halloween every birthday like sometimes it's annoying that it's
like you can't just wear like a nice dress yeah because you can't really say to everyone can
everyone just dress nicely because everyone's gonna be like it's my opportunity to do
wow okay yeah no it's stunning it's kind of ariana grande
it really is i mean yeah sexy gonzalez yeah so stunning with the i don't know if she had a wig
on or she just had dark hair at the time she looked so good that's so stunning great costume
what the fuck is going on right i'm gonna have to keep my eyes on the press it's the halloween spirit it really is crazy what the hell i don't know i think you would
have cut out in your story yeah i definitely will i definitely will have what do i say hey guys i'm
back i just cut out in my story yeah i was basically showed a stunning photo yeah i was
just saying how stunning my friend is basically do you know what i can actually relate because my birthday is two days after christmas so it's a very similar
thing of that it's a really similar thing it's like it's not on the day but it's like close
enough it's in the season you're really in the season yeah it's the day after boxing day i mean
it's crazy and also boxing day is my uncle's birthday and the 20 mine's the 27th of december
put it in your diaries guys and the day after also put this in your diaries is my great uncle's
so it goes christmas my uncle me my great uncle and it's just almost like god can these people
stop giving birth but you don't have have Christmas themed birthdays or you have?
No, I don't.
Well, the thing is, everything inherently at that time is Christmas themed.
It's like if you go to the theatre, it's a Christmasy vibe.
If you go for dinner, it's a Christmasy vibe.
Whatever, you go for a walk, it's Christmasy vibes.
Everything on the 27th of December is tarred with a brush of the Christmas of the christmas season but i like it yeah i did
always quite like it because i don't know i thought i go through things with it like i feel
quite done with it by that point like i'm almost done with the festivities by the 27th and i can
feel that everyone else is as well that it's almost like okay we're knackered by this point
everyone always wants the new year now and i feel like it
is often a burden of like it's another day everyone is the crimbo limbo and i come right in the middle
going limbo i come in like party time guys do you though do you come in party time or do you come in
i go through waves but sometimes i like to and sometimes I don't.
Like sometimes I'm really into my birthday and want to do like a fun thing.
And sometimes I'm like, I just want to do nothing this year.
Yeah.
But I don't know why.
I've got into a bit of a new thing.
I've been for the last two years, I think.
I think I'm going to do it again this year.
I don't know to see what.
But I've been going to the theatre.
That's fun.
Which is really nice because I never go to the theatre.
Yeah, on the day, in the evening, I go to the theatre. and last year i went to see my neighbor totoro and play it there was at the
barbican with my sister and i genuinely think like the play of it if you like my neighbor totoro and
like studio ghibli and stuff you'll know what i mean by this but like the puppet that played totoro
was probably i came
away from it thinking and as i was watching it i was crying my eyes out classically and i was
looking at my sister and i was just like this is the most amazing thing i've ever seen in my life
well that's like what more could you want it's not even the play like the play of it i didn't
love but the puppet i was like i've never seen such a beautiful thing better yeah yeah it was
incredible it was like he's in the room with us totoro was here in the room is it big and it was
someone inside the thing i can't even explain how they do it it's gigantic and it's blow up to a
certain level but it's also you can climb up it as it's mental god that's really interesting it
was the best thing i've ever beheld i think things
like that are a fun thing to do on birthdays and like events where almost like there's a degree of
pressure and that's what i was going to say about halloween it's like i feel like you've got it made
because i'm assuming you're going to be with your sister for the majority of the day if not the whole
time yeah yeah like the evening and stuff yeah but i want to dress up that's the problem why don't you why don't you and your sister and your brother do harry ron and marionette god if i could get him oh by the way today you're gonna be
ron yeah but he could be harry it would go down like a sack of shit but i'm gonna do i'm what i
might do is because i'm going to a fireworks night yeah the next the following weekend yes
and i might just try and
like extend the halloween and dress up then well we've got some just be like guys everyone just
wear like you're wearing this clown nose yeah you're wearing this we've got some dressing up
to do which is something to look forward to do you know what that was the thing that's getting
me through that i'm dressing up with you yeah i'm really excited for that i want to do that in
person though i don't want to do it on Zoom. Yeah, we are doing that in person.
Oh, wait, okay.
We're doing it twice, remember?
You will see, guys.
Oh my god, guys, the issue is over because I'm dressing up twice this year.
Yeah, god, your diary's packed.
Thank god.
Well, this episode, I think, has been a bit all over the place and weird, but...
Yeah, yeah, it has.
I'm cutting out left and right just behind the
scene no not podmas podtober sorry how many times does that happen in episode yeah my my microphone's
cutting out left and right and i'm a bit nervous about that but i yeah it was string something
but it's all good it's all good it'll be just delicious it'll be perfect it'll be perfect
so i guess we'll see you tomorrow guys and go look
at the stuff on our instagram if you haven't already because there's some stuff for you
oh my god and we sat through a crazy hour and then i sat through hours and hours and hours and hours
and hours watching it back please so please yeah please go give it some love like telepathically
send us some love right now
because we're always always that would be great we're sending it back spooky bye thank you so much
thank you for listening see you tomorrow okay bye