Goes Without Saying - sex education: talking about clits so you don’t have to

Episode Date: January 25, 2021

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without saying i hope this episode is better than the sex that you're having because i know that the sex you're having isn't good so last week's doing the work i'm gonna jump in we were doing the work we were talking about authenticity the episode was about authenticity and we're talking about how to find our truest values what is at our core what are the things that we want to live our life by how do we want to live our life and what did you come up with okay well i was kind of thinking about like the values that i hold true to myself and that i really value in others this year what would be nice i don't know why i'm making a yearly thing what would be nice is if we could all have a bit of understanding isn't that nice oh my god that's so nice just understanding just

understanding do i need to explain it i don't know you understand you get it turns out it's another year of realizing things it goes without saying i i said to you not that long ago that i feel like i uh have been hardened in a way and i kind of want to get back to just being a bit more like almost nice i think you were saying yeah i used to be so nice i i could be nicer i think i think i used to be like unashamedly nice it's just it's not true to me to withhold kindness in order to be not seen as too nice it's like i don't mind if you think i'm too nice that's okay so just a bit of kindness and understanding I think is the vibes that's the mood what's yours

wow I love it well kindness was one of mine as well because I think it's something I really struggle to be kind to people that I really don't like I really kindness isn't something that always comes quite naturally when someone is being offensive rude unlikable I don't think kindness is what I really slip into but I made like a list I wrote down 10 values that are really important to me and then I one by one crossed them off until I had like three left and that those were my three main things it was really difficult to cross them off um but I think I was left with my top three one of them really shocked me so my one was kindness one was authenticity hashtag the buzzword of life these days from us and my last one shocked me and it was loyalty which isn't

something that i necessarily want to live by i was thinking you were gonna say loyalty which is weird because i was thinking do i say loyalty and then i thought i probably would have stolen hers and it turns out i stole yours it's a paradox statistical conjunction loyalty isn't something that i always value in people i sometimes think no think critically it's not about who you know the best i kind of get the impression do you remember that thing on love island that girl that was like i'm loyal babe i'm loyal oh yeah um what was her name georgia well you kind of see loyal as a bit of a doormat, don't you? It's a bit of a dog, a desperado dog. Maybe we should do an episode of that.

Definitely. I think loyal seems a bit like you would do anything for that person. So I was shocked to find that was one of my ones that I wasn't willing to cross off. Because I think loyalty is a really stunning thing. And being there for people and being passionate about that person, have gone through things with that person, not as a trauma bond, but as a, I care, I'm there. Well, sticking by people, standing by them etc standing up for your what you believe in and people you believe in and that was one of my main ones so loyalty shocked me i love that but also kindness and authenticity well loyalty in the way that it's loyal to stay with someone if they're like going through a hard time and you've like got each other's back it's not about being loyal to somebody who's treating you like shit and doesn't give a fuck about you that's not

loyalty that's desperado sitting in an old monte carlo a half as hot as hollow or something like that i feel so um wholesome wholesome now on with the click talk before we get into all of the click combo uh we thought we should quickly come in and give you guys a bit of a trigger warning for all things sex sexuality sexual assault and rape um we don't go too heavy into these topics but you know what we're like so take everything we say with a pinch of salt and please leave if you think the conversation is not for you but thanks so much for being here this is a great episode stay tuned i mean i said a few episodes previous, I think, unless I was just saying this to myself in the mirror, that I wanted to start saying clit all the time.

Yeah, you did say that. Because I say literally every other word under the sun more often than I use the word clit, which is pretty crazy considering I have one. Yeah, dick, butthole. Bellend, I think, was the example i used yeah bellend bollocks why are you talking so much about bellends when you could literally say clit cock but we never say it clit clit think of what that evokes the power of that word the power

yeah we're out here saying you're a bellend you're a bellend you're a little bellend you're a dickhead so i feel like we're gonna get into the fact that i guess i mean i haven't been in school in a while what about you same amount of time being a couple years it's been a while and it's been a while since like sex education although i can't imagine it's changed all that much well it was so bad before if they've even raised it a tiny bit it's still pretty bad yeah to be in the uk and get a certain level of sex education is different to even like places in the us like places worldwide like wherever you may be listening i grew up thinking like okay this sex education wasn't that bad like i feel like

they went quite in depth with us in primary school i remember but also i kind of grew up with sex education being like my favorite subject like Like I used to get so excited. Yeah, I completely get that. It's different. It did feel quite sort of, first of all, it's like, right, okay, I can skip math. Amazing we don't have to do fucking maths. Yeah. Same wavelength.

No maths. Fuck trigonometry. I don't know how to divide even by two. Just get that out of the way. Elephant in the room. Haven't got a clue what a seven times table is. But yeah, one, you get to skip to skip maths two we're talking about sex like it felt very oh my god i'm an adult welcome to the adult world i've been hearing about this place and i'm getting a little view when did

you feel like an adult or like when did you feel like you had a grip on sex and sexuality or you're still waiting for it yeah i was gonna say still waiting to feel like an adult i feel like i've got a grip on sex but also i don't have a grip on sex i think it's such a confusing place the bed is such a confusing place where the magic happens where the magic happens i don't know that the power structures that are at play are definitely more important than you're ever told and why would they tell you the patriarchy is a thing no one seems to be telling children about this kind of for good reason i guess don't want to scare them too young but i don't know do you feel like you've got a grip on sex well i was just thinking it's almost like a bit of a paradox between the more you know

about yourself the more you know about the sex you're having or is it the more you know about yourself and the more you know about society the less you know about sex oh god love it you know it's one of those things the more you know the less you know because it's you find the holes you start picking it apart and realizing actually that the way that you're viewing it in your mind is quite fickle yeah or the structure doesn't hold up i love it well don't you think us all the time we're like you think you're having sex but actually you're being raped right let's back it up let's go back if you haven't listened to our episode on what was it on was it on porn i don't know we made some episode go listen to all our episodes go through the repertoire go for the sexual titles it's one of those we were explaining that more often than not it seems to

be the case that men get a lot more out of sex than women do even more than that i think if we can all appreciate that the lines of consent are far more complex than we were ever taught as kids of course our understanding of rape is actually far inferior to what the realities actually are if i know just by simple conversation and my tiny sample size of the convos that i have with friends and people that i meet an abundance of women that have had multiple sexual encounters that they did not enjoy or did not feel right to them or they were not comfortable in yeah how could our concept of rape not be holding up of course it doesn't something's not adding up here we have no

understanding of consent i know i started off talking about clits but all of a sudden i'm saying everyone's being raped i get it it's a big jump but please bear with thing is if you're listening to this i'm sure you are i'm sure you can handle the conversation of clits or abandon ship or you can jump ship at any time we're gonna do it too at the end. Imagine we do a five minute episode and that's it. You're all being raped. Bye. If anything, we're not taking the concept of rape lightly. We're taking the concept of consent very heavily. No, it's more serious. Yeah.

I'm saying we don't take it serious enough. Very, very fucking serious. Absolutely not. The concept of consent in our society is so vague. It's if you say yes, then you consent. If you say say no then you have not consented first of all people don't fucking abide by those laws anyway women are saying no all over the place and being fucking raped look at the news speak to a woman but also when women are saying yes that is not enough often and i don't mean you should be saying can i put my hand here yeah can i kiss you here i'm not saying

that is what sex should look like. Absolutely not. That sounds absolutely like a situation I do not want to be in. Stiff as a board, that whole situation. But the definition of consent is too flimsy. It's so binary. And that is just not the case because speak to, speak to women and you'll find out that women have been in situations that are not right or not comfortable. And they were more reminiscent of sexual assault than sex that the man may have viewed that as completely and also if our view of rape is so limited and reductive in the sense that it is what penis in vagina penis in anus bumhole whatever already it's not including all of the other ways that sex can happen

between for example two people that aren't one man, one woman. Yeah. It's so much more blurred. Then add in on top the fact that as an activity, we view it in such a transactional way that it's like, okay, so if I said I was going back to yours, does that mean that I said I was going to have sex? Because I said I was going back to yours, but you heard we're going to have sex. Because that's just implied. Also, we've been informed by a history of not only just the conversations that we're gonna have sex because that that's just implied also we've been informed by a history of not only just the conversations that we're having but media which tells us everything we need to know that i mean the idea of asking for it tell me that rape culture doesn't exist then if you're going to deny that rape culture exists don't tell me that you think that

a girl walking down the street was asking for it well she was asking for it okay why didn't you didn't ask for it you literally didn't ask bleak oh yeah and i do think this is all related to the fact that we use the word bellend all the time and never say click because sex is viewed as a man's world and it wouldn't be nothing without a woman or a girl like sex is the male domain and women get bought into it and exploited if and when they are needed yeah and it's entirely entirely focused around the man's pleasure and it's like the idea that we don't say the word clit at all and we refer to the vulva as a vagina we literally view our sexual reproductive organs as the bit that a penis goes into cut it down that's not your sexual organ your sexual

organ is your clit yeah we don't say the word clit because it's seen as secondary we say bellend constantly we say dick constantly we put on the story like just for fun what names do we call our vaginas because i say my vagina but what i'm actually referring to is my vulva but it just shows how we absolutely have no clue about female anatomy that we refer to a whole bit which has labia a clit and a vagina as a vagina well even when you know we haven't changed the the discourse around it is still so reductive even though like you're probably listening thinking yeah i know it's a vulva like tell me something new like oh i'm gonna click off this podcast soon but it's like even though you know yeah you can tell me you know it's a vulva

but we don't act like it okay well say to your dad you wouldn't say your vagina to your dad but say to your friends oh my god my vulva's really hurting and watch the looks you get i was gonna say well to be honest it should be pretty normal to say to your dad you should yeah or kind of like i'm on my period just things like i think it should be more normal like the idea that you couldn't say vulva seems really dirty the fact that girls go to the toilet with a tampon hidden up their sleeve is honestly just a sad state of affairs that we've got on ourselves into what a pickle did you used to take a little sanitary towel to the toilet in a little tin oh my god yeah i want to bring those back as if that makes it more discreet. I thought they were so ugly.

Yeah, well, that's the thing. They could have done them well. Very floral. Yeah, they could have done them cool. Maybe we should bring some out. I know, I do think, I genuinely do think about it. Anyone need a little tin? Yeah.

Anyone want a little pointless tin for your sanitary towels? What was the vagina chat like at your school? Like, not sex education, but like, what were the things that were said about the vagina because i feel like growing up there's like in your teenage years those formative times there's a lot of chat about like her vagina stinks oh my god so true well i don't know if there were specific things like her vagina stinks but there were definitely there's kind of a lot of child porn being passed around and the boys commenting on it which is mental there was definitely child porn being passed around

and there was also just the idea that sex would be very painful i think that was kind of it was all very rooted in like just kind of when your friends start losing their virginity and all of that like it's the idea of pain is very much put around but i think there was more the idea of like girls that fingered themselves are embarrassing really fingered themselves would be the lingo fingered themselves oh like blah blah blah fingers herself like that sort of thing yeah yeah that's so true she fingers herself oh my god i remember there was i don't know who it was but there was a story about someone like sitting on like a gear stick in a car also so untrue so untrue that never happened quite the maneuver to pull off yeah that honestly fat fucking gear stick you have got some skills i

hope you monetize that i feel like you're you're just brought up with a lot of shame like a lot of fear it's like oh it could be me next that they like someone might say something it could be me like let's do you know what i mean i definitely agree with i think were there big things at your school then because there were a few but i don't want to say them because it's just so much bullying was said around vaginas and girls at school like so much okay maybe i shouldn't right maybe feel bad no no go for it do you get what i mean like there's a lot of fear of like oh they might it's kind of like oh we're all witches like who's gonna turn on me next whose vagina is gonna betray them yeah well there was definitely the idea that if for example someone had got fingered at a party or

someone had had sex someone to give someone head at a party it would be which was weird that it would kind of go in these weird stages like she gave him a hand job it's like what and then walked away like what the hell yeah it's quite weird to think about then she got with someone else like it's just the weirdest like school parties were just bizarre yeah and then like got picked up by her mom it's just like i don't get this so bleak and kind of in a tiny little bathroom and then runs away and then they never speak again yeah they never speak again he ignores her at school she messaged him on facebook but he never replies yeah i think that was definitely the idea that if something like that happened at a party it's the school's knowledge it's it's everyone's it's free reign for anyone to comment

on well it must be really different now as well with like snapchat and instagram and shit like that like obviously we're not that old but nude culture has changed like kids and sex has changed the concept of nudes wasn't really a thing so much mischievous face just because i feel like it was a thing it was a thing definitely but i think the idea of nudes being kind of something you see quite regularly like it would be kind of emma watson has had her nudes leaked oh my god her life is over well there wasn't kind of only fans exactly whereas now it's like go on instagram and you're going to see loads and you don't really consider them nudes they're just stunning photos now whereas before it would be kind of oh my god her nudes but i do think now it's like the kind of 14 year olds are sending a snapchat of their like bum to a boy yeah definitely oh yeah yeah

doesn't sound nice what's she getting in return even if she wasn't getting anything back what is she giving but that's what i mean not i don't mean she's getting a dick pic i mean what's she getting back oh she's getting some validation from a shit boy yeah yeah that's what she's getting back but even then it's like i feel like the conversation about sex and empowered sex and like female empowerment and sex and sexuality and blah blah blah has strayed so far into like blind positivity that people get scared to acknowledge all of the losses or like the things that don't feel good in the reality of what it is for a teenage girl to be sexual and for anyone to be sexual blah blah blah in this kind of crazy world where there is so much at stake it's like still now like you are like i'm sure you listening maybe are in a position where

if a nude that you took four years ago came out, would you lose your job? Oh my God. I don't know. Like, would you be too embarrassed to go to a family event? There's so much at play that we don't, it's the kind of like toxic positivity thing. It's like you get so sucked into the, I love my body, body positivity. I'm manifesting. I'm so positive that it's like let's look at the

reality here there are things at stake like it's not just about embracing sexuality and being so empowered investigate if there is actually any empowerment there at all literally yeah because if you can't use the word clear but you're sending a picture of it to somebody your relationship with them obviously is more important to you than your relationship to yourself and that's what i always found annoying is the fact that so what i'm expected to touch my literally touch my eyeball and put my contact lenses in i'm supposed to sit for an hour and get acrylic put on my nails i'm supposed to get some sort of foreign body put onto my literal fingernails but i'm not supposed to know anything about my cervix. As fucking if. As fucking if. Best believe I know when my cervix is low, open, closed, hard. Tilted.

I'm all over it. As you should. As she should. As you should. The idea that women's bodies are not for them and they are just an act of performance for the male gaze and not even the male gaze, the gaze. Society's gaze of, oh, is she a slut? Is she frigid? Is she pretty?

Is she, where does she fit? Where can we box her? Is inherently patriarchal. society's gaze of oh is she a slut is she frigid is she pretty is she where does she fit where can we box her is inherently patriarchal is inherently rooted in things that want to control women and assign them little roles of mother maiden crone mother maiden crone if you've been watching the newest hecate from sabrina such bollocks it's true it's like is she a fleur de la cour or is she a fucking molly weasley yeah exactly how much is how much of your sex is actually your empowerment are you actually enjoying this and how much is performed empowerment which is something we talk about all the time performative empowerment

you can go around you can be like oh i'm just i'm in a slut phase i think we spoke about this in our slut phase episode there we go where it's like i'm in a slut phase i'm feeling so empowered i've just got out of a relationship i've just had a breakup and i'm gonna sleep with some people that i want to sleep with are you empowered in that or are you performing empowerment you're performing the role of a girl that's just been through a breakup and wants to become like sexually liberated yeah what does sexual liberation look like when consent isn't defined properly when i mean pedophile culture is alive and kicking and it's true how are you embodying sexual liberation when your sex is only a performance the only way that you know yourself and your sexuality is through a gaze of yourself like you are constantly kind

of the observer of your own self and your own sex rather than knowing it to be something that you experience within yourself it's just a concept for others to view it's definitely ingrained from an early age in the sense that if we're taking it to sex education school sex education because for some reason we love to take this back to school but i think it's because this stuff all starts early the boys go off into their classroom and they learn about what their dick does and we go into our room and we learn about all the terrifying things that our vagina does and what dicks will do to our vagina and how a baby will pass through it and it's never about like the idea of selfhood. Pleasure.

Your own identity. But the men are all learning from a place of like. What their bodies will do. And we're kind of learning about what our bodies will receive. Yeah and also in the most binary way. Completely. It's like okay vagina penis split. It is.

It goes back to the thing of the more you know. The less you know. Like I think sex education just introduces a load of questions. To beanswered and I don't know how it's changed since but I can't imagine that there's any discussion of like real empowered understandings of sexuality because how could there be because it's all about kind of reproduction so what was yours like then because you seem to have had quite a good one in that you seem to speak quite fondly of your sex education but I don't know if that's just I'm quite perverse and i just kind of would have indulged in any like you know i'll give what they take but the things they gave were fucking weird when i think

that yeah well that's kind of what i think is i almost can't really it's a bit of a blur and i also feel like i was pretty lucky in that i had always grown up with like an open conversation around sex and sexuality at home anyway. So I went into sex education already knowing everything they were going to tell me. Knowing the most. So it almost was like, oh, great. Now you lot can learn like what I know, like perfect. You're kind of running the class. Yeah, I'm kind of like looking around like, God, you're shocked, are you?

I also think like I was on the internet a lot, like maybe from a young age. I don't know. I just, I was an only child. So I was on the internet a lot like maybe from a young age I don't know I just I was an only child so I was in adult conversations I was like watching media that maybe wasn't meant for me like pornhub.com so kind of like um sounds like I was just like completely neglected I wasn't but I was always more aware of things that were maybe beyond my age group so i felt like sex education was just like yeah great whatever blah blah blah versus if i was growing up feeling like oh no like i'm i don't think i am going to be interested in penis in vagina sex or actually i don't identify with this thing called a vagina at all it would i would have a lot more memories of it but because i've

had like a pretty um the straight, not straight as in sexuality, but just the straight cut, like societal norm way of viewing sexuality, I don't have any riveting memories of it because it wasn't like a hardship for me. Well, it was designed for people specifically like you. Exactly. Or you fit in within the box

that they've designed the class for. Yeah, as most of us do. Completely. Any cis person, sex education is made for you. Sex education, I 100% have no memory. Well, I know that my sex education from an early age, but even also going up to like late secondary school, there was no mention of like trans people.

There was no mention of... To be honest, I don't know if there was a mention of anything other than heteronormative sex. Yeah, no. mention of to be honest i don't know if there was a mention of anything other than heteronormative sex yeah no acas powers the world's best podcasts here's a show that we recommend nature i've got a gay rooster named francois is so gay these rams are gay. I'm studying gay animals. Does that mean I'm gay? So why don't more people know this? I'm Owen Ever. I'm Lane Kaplan-Levinson, and this is a field guide to gay animals. A podcast about queerness in the natural world. The animal kingdom is queer, and we are a part. Find a field guide to gay animals on Spotify,

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Because even in like towards the later parts of education and now even in workplaces at least pronouns are a conversation so i mean i don't i don't i literally haven't experienced sex education but you would hope that it's changing slightly do you think do you think it's changing or no if i think back to my school i cannot imagine them starting the thing everyone go around and say your pronouns i just physically can't imagine it but that's because it was awful well the problem starts when you have kind of teachers who ended up being teachers because they didn't know what they wanted to do with their subject that they did at uni and they became teachers and suddenly now they're teaching sex it's like these are the least equipped people to teach sex to a bunch of kids that you need to get sex educators to teach sex quite a big subject

goodness me that's where our problems start i think people who have no the most narrow view of like kind of he's been raping his wife for the past 20 years and now he's going to teach a bunch of kids did you did a man teach you sex education no i only women yeah it was only women i think they would we always had women yeah i reckon that's conscious i definitely would have been absolutely mortified age 11 a man being like and then the man was put his penis that's the thing i'm almost like i can't imagine mr brookman talking about sex but i don't know not mr brookman no i can't handle i remember really embarrassing things though like it was definitely seen as funny, like very, very funny.

Like there would always be, I don't know if I've told this on the podcast before, but there was like a sort of a hat that we'd all put our little questions in. And I remember when I was in real, real primary school and I asked, is the number of times you put the penis in, is that the number of children you have? Yeah.

So that shows I had no clue. That was year five. Well, I saw someone sent us a message saying they used to think that by fingering themselves, they could get pregnant. I mean, I kind of see where they were going with it in the sense that it's like yeah you look at a dick and it's like oh this basic old thing whatever and then you look at a vagina and you're like wow this must have taken years to construct like this is so complex this is a whole masterpiece yeah this is a whole piece yeah um and then you think okay where

do i begin to start explaining what this is when you don't even know yourself there's a whole lot of unlearning and relearning to be done and they grew up with shame around their vagina shame around masturbation shame around being a slut or whatever these words are well the people who taught us about sex were taught about sex by people who were born in the 1940s. and those cannot be my educators. i'm sorry no. so there we have it. so i don't trust you at the best of times. i'm not trusting you with my own vagina. so even this podcast podcast even this podcast is already outdated. like if i were to sit down with my now little sister and talk about sex it's already outdated information considering i was born in the 90s and this is 2020 it's outdated info like i'm only sourcing what i can find from the minute fields of instagram and passing it on

we're constantly having to unlearn it's from antiquity yeah this is not this is not reality meanwhile you're challenging also the main form of sex education at the moment in the western world which is porn if you've listened to any of our episodes you know that we do have slight issues with the porn industry as a whole some sort of obsession i have we're talking about porn but it's because it informs everything and when it informs your own sexual relationships it's like why does this area that's made by people that don't value women's pleasure have any impact on what happens to my own vessel my body completely should not be the case this man over here does not get to dictate what the people i have sex with find erotic but it turns out they do yeah or shouldn't control what i know about my own body

yeah but that's the problem as well is that the taboo has um kind of permeated so far and wide that literally the people in power are too embarrassed to talk about sex so they're too embarrassed to admit that porn is a problem it's like if we could all just actually have an honest conversation it's like you're too embarrassed to stand up in the house of commons and say yeah that porn thing i actually do agree it is a bit fucked like have you seen it recently you're too embarrassed you don't want to talk about porn because you know you've been cheating on your wife and the tabloids are going to come out with all these stories because you spoke about sex and opened you up now you're a sexual politician

exactly yeah because you've been fucking a pig oh yeah yeah oh yeah yeah politics is a joke so the fact but i just think that the hang on cut cut cut cut this is when i start to get angry and everything kind of falls apart yeah i'm i'm starting to feel like the train of thoughts are going because we're getting fumigated it is an angry topic though because it's people are getting raped out here like it's not fucking it's not we're not fucking about it's not like oh my god this is blah blah blah it's like no but then when i speak to 30 year old women that have never had an orgasm sorry am i not supposed to feel fucking upset for them i feel angry and also in the way that it's like you've been taught so much you've been taught to investigate the way your stomach

looks you've been taught to investigate your fucking jawline if your jawline is good enough but you don't know anything about your fucking vagina you don't know what the inside of your vagina is like because you've been told this you can't you can't touch it but you've been staring at your fucking nose all day till the cows come home yeah isn't it interesting what you are taught to place importance on when it comes to your body you should know everything about um your hair and the way that you should fucking wax your mustache and you know nothing about your clit isn't that interesting it's bleak how many people have you spoken to where they that actually say oh vaginas are just ugly vaginas are ugly everyone just so many girls seem to think a part of their own body something that if they investigated they could have a whale of a time seem to think that that's ugly well they

don't even know what it looks like fuck off fuck off a shame. Even the idea of like sort of shaving and all of this stuff. I know we say all the time, you know it, it's rooted in paedophile, paedophilic standards of beauty. But also just this maintenance that needs to go on with women's bodies and just like it's not good enough as it is with hair on. Your body in its natural state isn't good enough. It's not good enough. It needs, before you have sex, have sex you need to it's not acceptable you need to monitor that you need to stay on top of that you need to be shaving every bit of hair off it you need to spend money on it it's not good enough as it is which is there we go there's the fucking problem it's not it's not difficult it's not hard sure okay completely i get boys can trim their pubes too yeah true but it's not the same it's

literally not the fucking same it's not the same it's not the fucking same tell me the last time it's not the same you fucking know deep down it's not the same yeah when does a boy ever say sorry i haven't shaved it's not even a thing honestly the apologies the apologies sorry i haven't shaved sorry that the world made you think like this all right i just saw one message someone said they thought that starting your period, i.e. bleeding, means you have cancer. laughing, crying. the things we're told. honestly i read about some something. i mean also i don't think this is an isolated incident that i read. where someone obviously started their period and they started crying and crying and crying and crying and they were begging their parents to go to the hospital because they thought they were dying.

because you didn't know you were gonna to have a period the beginning of the film carol she's like in the showers yeah she starts bleeding and she's like what the fuck i'm dying like you would think that yeah yeah yeah yeah you're living that life imitates art as they say in a patriarchal society i literally thought i'd shat myself i was like there's nothing that i like i knew all about you're gonna get a period at some point but i started quite young and you didn't think it would happen to you yeah i was like i'm obviously exempt from this or like this is like what 15 year olds deal with this isn't what 11 year olds deal with yeah yeah i was like i shat myself where were you i was at my grandma's house and i was like staying a few

nights like hid my knickers like i didn't tell anyone and my mum found them in the wash and she was like you've started your period go write it in your diary and i ran and wrote in my diary why didn't you tell anyone um because i thought i'd shat myself what and you were just perpetually shitting i literally didn't know yeah i just in a constant state of shit oh i shat myself earlier and now i continue to shit myself now i've got a shitting problem kind of it's either we or poo and it's definitely not we is what i thought so it could be shit i think it just didn't cross my mind that it could be my period because it seemed like this mythical thing i yeah i didn't i knew immediately though it was my period but so i started at school same as you i was 11 i think 10 or 11 and i came home

and i think i felt kind of weird but probably yeah i felt like i wet myself and then i came home and i went to the toilet and i saw blood in my knickers and i thought oh it's now and i went mom i've started my period oh my god what did she say go write in your diary no she didn't she's not i wish she did i did find something in my diary though because i looked back so i i've always been quite a big diary keeper even to this day and i found in my diary because when we were asking what everyone's names for their vaginas were i used to call mine a lulu and i found my diary for when i was like five and it said my lulu bled dot and it's like what was that five five why did it bleed i don't know it must have bumped it i remember i

went to the doctors when i was really young too but i can't remember why maybe your lulu bled not funny and i wonder if our dads knew do you know what i mean like if oh i had to take poppy to the doctor or whatever everyone's like who the fuck is poppy my family call me poppy it's a long story do you know what i mean yeah my dad did know because i had because my parents are split up i when you were five no i wasn't five oh what you just said you were five i'm not when my period started no but when you said my lulu bled when my lulu bled no why would my dad know i wrote in my diary unless he's reading my diaries because well kind of a thing of like oh like okay my daughter's like something's happened like well i would take her to the gp no it was just a little thing i reckon reckon it's, I wrote all sorts of shit in there.

I used to write like- You're just making things up, left, right and centre. I wrote like my friends got a sore butt, like weird things. I remember one of them, one of them was, I saw a nest dot. Nice, that's so cute. So there was all sorts of shit in there. So my Lulu bled was one of them, but that wasn't my period. Lulu's quite cute.

Your little Lulu. Kind of Dolly Parton, Lulu. What's that got to do with her? Lulu? You know the singer, Lulu. Dolly Parton? No, but she reminds me of Dolly Parton. It's like Kylie Minogue reminds me of Madonna.

You're kidding. Same. I always get them confused. I get so confused. I used to when I was younger. I don't anymore. Well, it's kind of like, what? Two women over the age of 30 in the starlight?

Can't exist. Must be the same person. Can't be two. And Nicole Kidman. I get confused in that little category as well. Nicole Kidman. Fair enough. She's kind of in that Kylie Minogue and Madonna vibe for me.

Nicole Kidman, Natalie Portman. I'll raise you. Well, I'll raise you a Natalie Portman and maybe kind of of who does she remind me of kind of emma watson to be honest kind of anne hathaway so true so true similar vibe unlikable classically trained classically trained i've got some internalized misogyny i don't like anne hathaway for no reason anna kendrick this message that we got really threw me back to a conversation i remember having with someone in particular so this person said that they had a misconception about vaginas and sex etc that their first time would be excruciatingly painful and they were so scared to have sex and i know

so many people that were really scared of like the pain the pain quote the pain the pain it was honestly liam pain and people could not stop talking about it pain oh big pain pain pain i don't know what that is shame shame it could not stop talking about the pain like it was definitely this what your first time might hurt your first time you will bleed and i think you hear the word blood and you think oh fuck i don't want this it's gonna be that's embarrassing it's gonna be painful and embarrassing yeah also it ends up being a problem because then when people actually have conditions or actually have instances with pain you can't find any info on it and this is my issue with like typing in something about breast cancer and i

either get porn or a fucking scientific drawing it's like no i need to see some tits quick i need to see them pronto i need to see real life female anatomy without it being through a cartoon and without it being through a sexualized gaze give me some like real life science give me some anatomy of my own body is that too much to ask for yeah that isn't like pushed up to the chin and aren't also like in a sort of sexy red bra with the hands over the little nips yeah i'm actually googling like a fucking scientific condition and i'm being met with porn or a stick figure and i don't want a line drawing of a tit yeah i want to see a boob why do we know everything about erectile dysfunction and nothing about boobs and vaginas suspicious pain let's talk about pain

okay it can hurt it cannot hurt it just depends on your body it's just life and this information should be readily available to us but it's not and it means that so many women go without a proper diagnosis women aren't taking seriously in medicine anyway and also they go without the opportunity to have good sexual encounters or a good sexual relationship even with themselves because it's like this information about your own self is being withheld from you i don't think so but best believe i will go and find it for myself that you're so right that's how it feels it feels as if a certain amount of information was purposely withheld and i don't think it's that the teachers kind of withheld things because i think it was withheld from them no it's that the information isn't there it's that there is no

medical research on any of this shit that's real i mean look at the state of the pill look at the state of the contraception in general yeah this is my favorite thing to shock people with at parties oh yeah why don't you go in on about it just the fact that my nan born in the 1940s and me born in 1996 great year could be on the same contraceptive pill that came out in the 60s and had has had little to no regulation or reconstruction since i don't think so i don't fucking think so you clearly don't care whether I live or die. Think about the developments that we've made with fucking x-rays, iPhones. If I sat with my iPhone 4 that came out in like 2013, I would feel like I was using massively outdated technology. And that's an iPhone 4 from 2013. Let alone the 70s. Let alone taking a contraceptive pill that was approved in the 1960s in the uk

medicine for your body and it goes inside you and i do and it's like god knows what happens i think i'm still reeling the impact going on the pill from a young age and i haven't been on it for a few years now the thing is it's so unsurprising i was actually reading a bit about the pill last night it was developed and obviously it's hugely liberating it was seen as hugely liberating for women to be able to medicate themselves out of getting pregnant they were in control of their bodies for once but it's also a burden placed on you they were referring to it as a paradox in that that happened but also women were very much the guinea pigs of it and still continue to be the guinea pigs it is largely dangerous look at the side effects they don't want to bring out a male

pill they trialed a male pill because there's too many side effects and they said it causes hormonal side effects let me get out my tiny violin they said mood swings cry me a fucking river you said mood swings those fuckers they don't give a shit and it's not that i want birth control for men to have side effects it's that at the advanced stage that we are at now there is no reason as to why there should be so many side effects and it can only be a weapon to be used against you and your own sexuality the shame of it is it's not that information is being withheld from us it's that the information doesn't exist because we've never sourced the beginnings of the education we stopped with fucking um hypocrities and fucking saying that women are actually just men that their

penises didn't come out and that they've got too much fucking bile and wetness in them and we're going for the four humors or whatever yeah it's bollocks yeah and now and now we haven't yeah this is um it's not that we're saying let's downgrade male medicine let's upgrade female medicine but it never will happen because they don't give a shit they won't care whether your body whether you're making yourself infertile whether you are causing yourself to your weight to fluctuate massively whether your skin is going to break out whether you're going to fuck up all the relationships in your life because you literally are having the wildest mood swings of all time you get depression you get anxiety you die from blood clots and also just in the way that you're not taken seriously when you sit

in the doctors anyway i mean even in the uk with the nhs i think there is a stat that says it's something like eight years on average for a woman's endometriosis diagnosis to be given to her and taken seriously eight years in that time anything could happen oh it's kind of that this is one of the things that's just like i don't see how you cannot get angry about this because your body is not being taken seriously your body is seen as some kind of thing just to throw away shove in a corner keep it quiet yeah your life is a symptom it's like your existence as a woman is a symptom so just go over it it's just a symptom just bear the brunt lie back and think of england meanwhile let's develop the erectile dysfunction medicine like some more this needs some serious thought let's get our best brains behind it fuck off why are we on shit pills let's set up literal websites

where we can have archives of women at the touch of our fingertips to go and meet up with and fucking sexually assault and then never see the light of day again hey yay yay i'm getting a bit fumed i'm not gonna lie a little bit angry then you're gonna be dating someone it comes around to the time where you might want to have sex with them and they say oh i don't really like condoms how dare you how dare you you want me to medicate myself oh you want me to medicate myself for mediocre sex with you for your five minutes i don't think so it's not happening i don't think so not today you little cunt no you little clit literally you little clit i saw so we asked on the story what do you call what what terminology you're using for vagina we've got mary pussy ninny um and someone said cunt and i thought

that's powerful if i've ever heard it cunt is great i love that someone said penis that's funny i'm gonna start calling it my dick my fucking dick oh my uterus my baby box that's so cute baby box i'm going like my tuppence it's like three pence six pence my tuppence i hate vag can i just say vag vag i hate it you hate that or was our response it's a response to the response to say vag vag it doesn't sound great i don't like it i'm not keen on vag i don't think i would find that particularly hot vag but then again none of the terms are great but what's hot to talk about a penis they're not hot this is the problem this is the whole problem that but i think i've heard people i've heard i think dick is the best option but i think i think cock is better than dick cock

sounds a bit like get that out of my face it's kind of a bit of a weapon it's a bit like oh god mass destruction cock a doodle do get away from me dick to me feels like a bit of a prick it feels like a little bit of a teensy tiny little needle of life dick sounds quite small prick is bad that's tiny that's a needle prick prick is a baby i would die of laughter if someone said prick prick like seriously but can you say any of them seriously well that's kind of the problem isn't it not really i would say penis i would always say penis if you were having sex you would say put your penis inside me. No, I'd say dick.

But I wouldn't say get your dick inside me. I kind of wouldn't say. Wouldn't say a word. I'd dart around the subject like nobody's business. Quiet as a mouse. Yeah, I mean, there are some funny ones. But ultimately, if it comes from a place of trying to cover something up, coming up with a password, it's like this isn't a secret. Coochie't like coochie yeah coochie coochie coo coochie's a bit like why are we living in pedophile culture coochie coo goo goo gaga what did you call it

when you were a kid lulu lulu someone said nuni i'm glad they did i said nuni when i was little i don't like nuni at all i wouldn't i don't like it now no i wouldn't if i ever have kids they will not be calling vaginas nunis or any of this madness really what would they be calling it i think vaginas vulvas penis and like swear word it's your cunt oh did you ever say like your privates that was a thing in school your privates oh my god my private parts. Yeah. Yeah, your private parts. My little private parts. Privates. Yeah, privates. That's so embarrassing.

He touched my privates. Privates? That was quite a thing. Privates. All like, he got his privates out. You write about that in your diary. Imagine you say that now. Your privates.

Imagine you say that now. Could you put your privates in me? Put your privates in my privates he talked to my privates that was so bad oh my god his privates were so big i saw his privates honestly though i think we should get that get back to that a little bit it's like yeah they are private sometimes like i need some of this to be private so that i understand my privates before they become publics. don't make your privates your publics too early. do you know what i mean? i think we've jumped ship a little bit. you don't even understand your privates before everyone else is making assumptions on your privates. they're now in the public domain

but they were very much private. privatized. moo moo. i hate. i hate them them all foo foo sorry all of these i hate fairy i'm not keen on fairy i hate them what were you thinking fanny that's quite a one virgin a lot of them said virgin i'm not keen that sounds like a sort of vegetarian tagine i quite like virgin if you're making a joke punched lasagna someone said oh that sounds good what is wrong with these people no i quite like that punch lasagna and they also said hang on let me find them used to call it a front bum that's quite fun front bum i'm not keen on shitty mcgee shit eat mcgee they're all ridiculous aren't they i do like tuppence it feels a bit like you're a bit of a lady it's like you forget yourself it is you forget yourself dare approach my tuppence it does kind of sound like you're on the market

it's like kind of it's a bit of a back alley like a couple of shillings for your troubles oh thank you ma'am oh thank you sir yeah get that tuppence out quickly like you are a chimney sweep but i am keen it's kind of maiden mother crone crone yeah it's a kind of broodmare i'm hearing the bridgerton soundtrack as we speak have you watched it no i haven't no neither that's a good reference then considering you haven't watched it no it's because i was listening to the thank you next on the violins quite stunning i need to watch it this is a great response someone said i called it a vagina my mum didn't believe in giving them cutesy names as she thought it tried to make them

more palatable when in reality they're just a part of the human body preach preach preach preach preach your mother was before her time she's been listening to goes without saying it sounds like was it you she had a podcast it sounds like that's your daughter from the future but it's so true right she's she's right that resounds heavy that resounds are we all resounding put your hand up if you're resounding right now i'm resounding in that i like that i'm gonna take a take a leaf out of your mom's book yeah is that right that doesn't feel right something about that doesn't really hit something about it's making me feel not good we've just been reading some of your responses to the myths that you heard about sex and vaginas and we are shook some of

them are insane oh my god i think we might have to just go through as many as we can true or false them i can feel the fear in these responses yeah yeah do you know what i mean the the remnants of all of that shame somebody said that you only discharge if you finger yourself was terrified people would find out it's like yeah i can feel your fear i watched a tiktok about that the other day that someone was filming their 30 year old husband and he didn't know he thought discharge was come he was like oh my god so you're like coming every day like in your knickers like there's like come all the time and she was like that's fucking discharge he was 30 they're married her husband they've been having sex i assume for a good number

of years mine and my dog's jaw dropped oh no this person said the hymen oh don't get me started on the fucking hymen i don't want to talk about the hymen the hymen's a myth fuck the hymen research the hymen get a female doctor's opinion on a hymen oh what did they say oh we're actually not hearing you took me seriously when i said i don't want to speak about the hymen oh oh right i really thought you don't want to be with the hymen i thought to be on it tbh me neither well yeah they said hymens do not break sex shouldn't be painful lube lube lube lube lube lube i agree but also the idea of a hymen that kind of it could break on a horse it could break it could pop come on fuck off there's no pop why do you want women on horses this is clearly outdated you've been taught

a million lies a million and one lies a million little lies this idea that there's someone said you can get things lost up there oh i definitely remember there being an idea of like what can you fit in your vagina oh wow like a little wallet i idea of like what can you fit in your vagina oh wow like a little wallet i've heard like you can put things in there like oh we've got some extra storage that's not how it works no you'd probably give yourself a bit of an infection it feels like you'd get toxic shock syndrome don't yeah yeah exactly yeah it's not a storage system it's not extra pockets and oh my god ozzy just really growled it's not extra storage in animal crossing it is not the yellow box company or whatever it's called

bigger pockets base upgrade so many people saying flaps too big big lips are disgusting big lips mean she's a whore lol honestly lol you need if this is something if you still have kind of shame around your labia you need to follow the queen yes you do she's from brighton i've completely forgotten her name lydia i think her name is lydia reeves lydia reeves artist on instagram if you have a vulva if you have labia if you don't have vagina you don't have labia follow follow follow all we can say so stunning yeah really cool and to be honest get your labia molded by her yeah so maybe did we explain what she does no she's an artist just follow her you're in for a shock when you get to

that page um she takes casts of people's vulvas and they look so stunning they're really cool they're amazing it's like kind of a bust that you would find in the oval office but it's your own vulva yeah how. How stunning. What concept. This one's really important I think. A girl being loose as a way of shaming her for having too much sex. You don't become loose from having sex. Or the idea that the more people you have sex with. Isn't it convenient that if you're in one long-term relationship and you're having regular sex with them your vagina is fine and we don't have to worry about it. But if you're having the same amount of sex with different people. Baggy. Or you're not in sex with them your vagina is fine and we don't have to worry about it but if you're having the same amount of sex with different people baggy or you're not in a

relationship where you've been quote-unquote chosen by a man and affirmed by a man's single penis you are a big baggy vagina whore yeah and you've got a big baggy peanut a big baggy vagina fuck off big baggy penis sounds awful oh no i will never forget i was 17 having sex and my male partner said that i had white stuff in my vagina and as if i should be worried and he was shocked i told him that's vaginal discharge which is completely normal and he was still kind of confused i still feel shame about it years later because of his freaked out reaction i knew all about how dicks worked but he didn't even know what discharge was totally unfair don't feel shame don't feel shame about it years later because you know that it actually isn't even about what discharge was. Totally unfair. Don't feel shame. Don't feel shame about it years later

because you know that it actually isn't even about the two of you as individuals. It's just about the messages that we're taught from an early age that we've discussed. I think that was quite a great opportunity for a prank that was missed. You could have done something that's like, it's like, what is this white stuff?

You could have done a whole like, oh, it means I'm pregnant. Oh, I spilled my moisturizer earlier. Shit. That's my Elizabeth Arden eight hour cream whole like oh it means i'm pregnant oh i spilt my moisturizer earlier shit yeah that's my elizabeth harden eight hour cream fuck it means i'm dying like that's what happens when a girl is in love i've been marked the devil will visit us tonight and take our firstborn son should we talk about the idea that the orgasm gap yeah the orgasm gap we know it we know it and oh boy do we know it so she said do women rarely orgasm because of the lack of concentration or is the sex really just bad i think it's a combination of the two yeah

sex most likely is bad but also women do not orgasm less than men biologically it's just societally sex is made to benefit men if anything women can orgasm more than men literally but it's meant to seem like oh well if a woman is in the right mood it's all about whether she's concentrating whether you've kind of lit some candles it's not about that sorry that we have fucking a broader scape of emotions than a fucking teaspoon ronald some may say the emotional rage of a teaspoon but sorry that women actually have to have some sort of sense over themselves to do you know what i mean sorry that women have a stronger relationship and a connection between their mind body and soul to feel some kind of power than a silly old man wanking about dipping his cock and god knows what but i think it's probably the same for men but they just don't feel alienated from their bodies

in the same way and so they always feel that they are comfortable and they have power whereas women need to have this weird setup of a room to be able to feel that within themselves well and also that you've been brought up to feel like you're um you're getting something put in you it's a big transaction it's like you're giving away a part of yourself if you're a woman whereas if you're a man it's just like you could have sex with anybody and it's fine you don't have to justify it's almost like i feel like women are raised to have to feel like they have to justify why they're having sex with someone how many dates has he taken you on yeah has he earned his place within your body you're raised to be constantly thinking about the justification yeah of is this okay have you been chosen appropriately are you just giving up because you're a whore and you just want to have

sex or is it like actually worthwhile like have you made the conscious decision to have sex with somebody like do you know what that means have you thought critically about this it's like please point me to men who are thinking critically about where they put their penis point the biggest skeptic out make him a believer i'm feeling quite bummed to my core i'm feeling honestly great are you i'm feeling great about it is in all of this exists people were saying that the hymen and that their boyfriend didn't know what discharge was yeah because look where they are like i think it's fine i think it's fine i think we can get through this i think i see the other side of this also just like take responsibility for your own life and your own behaviors and your own understanding of yourself

because what else can you do like i'm not going to sit here and say to you that you need to now only refer to your vulva as your vulva and you're not allowed with your friends to say that it's a smashed lasagna or something like that's funny like it and it's also like yes it is deep but it can't be that deep in your life like you can't feel all of this all the time otherwise yeah you'll never have sex again you won't live you won't see another day it's like yeah not all the sex you have is going to be great and perfect and it's not always going to be with the perfect person because they don't exist. You are your own perfect person. Just see what happens, guys.

Just chill. It's fine. It's fine, fine, fine. Don't worry. It's okay. It's okay. It's just about kind of making sure that you within yourself are happy with the decision. So I think it is about thinking quite critically, specifically about contraception,

because that's something that is long-term affecting your body. There are many perks to the pill. We know, don't DM us. I'm on the pill and I love it great yeah great think critically about it does your boyfriend refuse to use condoms why does he refuse to use condoms and then think critically about the sex you're having who benefits more why do you think they benefit more why do they put their hand around your throat where have they learned that why do they want to blur the lines between sex and death like what is happening here yeah i completely agree i love it so how are we doing the work this week we are doing the work bye well we were saying something

about kind of looking at your vagina and really understanding it but i was almost thinking i've got a better one slip clit into a conversation and see what happens love like just use the word clit be like clit try and work clit into a conversation oh fucking clit and see how offended your opponent gets see what happens say i'm gonna shout at someone i got cat called yesterday and i wish i and i shouted fuck off down the street but i think i wish i'd shouted fuck off you clit that's really funny you clit you clit clit is almost but clit is almost a compliment i almost quite like clitty as a bit of a compliment. Like I'm not pretty, I'm clitty.

Quite a cute little baby name. Hey little clitty. She's clitty. Clitty's quite hot. It's like, God, you look so clitty. Like you're looking clitty today. But. Clitty.

Have we just, are we on to something or are we nuts? No, no, we're on to something. Clitty. Clitty. Clitty. Clitty gang. Let it sit with you for on to something clitty clitty clitty clitty gang let it sit with you for a bit clitty let it let it stir i'm liking clitty the clittiest i had the clittiest time last night let's get clitty clitty even like a little like what about you buy a pet kitten and you call it clitten clitten clitten quite cute what about you buy a pet kitten and you call it clitten? Clitten. Clitten.

Quite cute. What about you buy a pair of mittens and you call them... Mittens and you call them clittens. Or if you get a kitten in mittens and it's a clitten in clittens. Oh, cute. What else rhymes with kittens? Kittens, mittens. That's it. We've exalted the dictionary.

Weird when an episode about vaginas ends with, what rhymes with kittens and mittens that's it we've exalted the dictionary weird when an episode about vaginas ends with what rhymes with kittens and mittens it's like oh okay it's gone really weird it's gone really wrong it did go as badly as we thought it would great it really did okay well i hope you enjoy saying clit and buying clittens and mittens and calling yourself the clittiest girl of all in clit town yeah clitsville enjoy i'm actually really gonna start yeah honestly we are living in clitsville like kind of do we rename this podcast clitsville shit we can't rebrand again i start tagging our pictures location clitsville i wonder if that exists should i check clitsville yeah we're all moving yeah guys you'll never guess where we're taking you school trip to clitsville clitsville everyone get on the clit mobile clit it's not gonna come oh okay there

is things clitter house that's beautiful clitter house park clitter like glitter that's fun clit lick stow docks if you live near any of these things please let us know this is really beautiful beautiful stuff guys okay well i'll see you there see you in clit the clit house the clitter house clitter house like clitter oh clitter house clitter house a bit of a weak pun kind of if that's what they're doing but i like clit clitty clitten mitten clitster i could call you my clitster i'm your clitster yeah because you're my friend it's just all my friends my clitster you're my clitster oh like sister i'm seeing what you're doing here okay yeah clitster like sister i thought it was kind of like your mister like my little clitster yeah clitster your mister like my

little puppies my clitster is that bit much i'm just still on cliton my pet kitten called cliton cliton yeah it's cute i'm i'm honestly really i'm racking my brain yeah genuinely i feel like that's a really obvious one that we're missing that people are really shouting yeah that's what i was just gonna say i feel like we're yeah let's think let's think what is the obvious one it's not like clitzoid or like clitorunied clitzoid is fun i'm surprised i don't say clitorunied already to be honest clitz mcgee we always have mcgee clitz mcgee that's good mcgee yeah oh he's such clitz mcgee i can picture who is a clitz mcgee as well who just kind of i can picture the kind of guy that's a clitz mcgee he's not cool i was thinking quite quite cool guy like if i said to you harry starves is a clitz mcgee suddenly it's

like oh clitz mcgee yeah but harry starves isn't at anything he's a clit's mcgee i think there's an obvious one but maybe message i think it's i think the moment's over maybe message us in your clit words yeah yeah but i am still thinking i'm not done yeah there is one i don't feel finished but i think we have to jump ship we have to let them go okay okay if we think of it we'll put it on the story clits right let's go through clits past tense clitted present tense to clit clit future tense clitting clitting yeah like you're flitting like you're clitting you're clitting around i'm just clitting around i've just been clitting from here to here that's a better slut phase i'm clitting around i've been clitting clitting around here

to here i think clitting around is a little bit better because it also keeps you on your mission. Yeah. It's not just that I'm fucking around mindlessly. It's that I'm clitting around. It's like the vagina has no part in this. It's me and my clit. It may have a part.

This is the main character in this is the clit. So you're clitting around. Clitting around. I like that. That's empowerment. I think that's the answer to empowerment. We've solved it. Completed it, mate. Okay. Too bad that we came out with the empowerment program because that's the answer to empowerment we've solved it completed

it mate okay too bad that we came out with the empowerment program because that would have been the final thing it would have just been a page that said click click click click just start clicking just start saying the word clear i think we have really undone some patriarchal damage here because we have been saying this word probably the most times this word has appeared in a podcast ever ever ever surely that's some sort of record world record get us in the guinness world book of records guys most times clit's been said in a podcast i think we need to stop same i think this is a bad ending i think we need to go i told you that a few minutes ago and you started coming out with clitting okay sorry i was still thinking okay well i think i think we've really clitted the clit out of this. We've clitted the hell out of this.

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