Going Deep with Chad and JT - Ep 113- Did Joe Rogan like Dolittle, Chad's revenge body, and Self Love
Episode Date: January 24, 2020What up stokers, in this episode, the boys discuss whether Joe Rogan really liked Dolittle, Chad losing love to his bro, and self love. Check it out!Thanks Roman. GetRoman.com/goingdeep for $10 off an...d free two day shipping.Sponsored by Manscaped: Get 20% Off and Free Shipping with the code GODEEP20 at Manscaped.com. Clean up your nuts!
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Hello Stokers of Stoke Nation, this is Chad Kroger coming in with the Going Deep with
Chad and JT podcast.
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Nice.
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I think I'd feel better if they were a little trimmed up.
Yeah.
They don't look terrible.
Yeah. It's like they say, make your bed in the morning so you can start off on the right foot.
For sure.
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Your pubes are another thing I really admire about you dude thank you i've been actually i've been practicing my nudity a little bit more i'm just trying to get more comfortable like
in the gym uh hit the steam room you know you usually keep the towel over you spread that open
nice let the down hang uh and then i walk through the gym, locker room, towel on shoulder.
What's your posture?
Shoulders back, chest forward, waist forward.
I want...
Dominant.
Yeah, I want people to know.
I want people to see it.
What's your dick's posture?
He's so chill, dude.
He's just hanging.
That's nice. Yeah. Especially after the steam room, he's just like dude he's just hanging that's nice yeah uh especially after
the steam room he's just like oh dude that felt so good you know my pores feel good um i'm relaxed
the balls are not getting all up in my business right now they're just hanging so it's nice that's
awesome yeah when was the last time you hung down the last time i was naked for a while um last night nice yeah where were you at home yeah yeah do you do anything or you just sort of
i just walked around naked for a bit yeah and then i i was taking a shower and i had my phone
in there in the ziploc bag and then joe called me yeah he picked up nice he was like are you in the
shower yeah i was like yeah he's like let me? Yeah. I was like, yeah. He's like, let me hang up. And I was like, let's keep talking.
Yeah.
Does Joe, do you ever catch Joe just hanging down?
Never.
He's got to do it.
It's just not his personality.
Yeah.
But I mean, you know, if he, if he, if he did, I'd be so stoked.
Yeah.
I'd be like, dude, yes.
Yeah.
Thank you for trusting me with your nudity.
But you can't force that kind of thing
do you think it's because he's he just keeps his dominance his power his inner darkness sheathed
yeah he's like he's like you know what i don't want to i want to put that on people i want to
easily dominate people i want to you know have a amicable uh state of being, you know, have a amicable state of being.
But, you know, if the time calls for it, I will hang dong.
Yeah, he's just a super polite guy.
And I'm always like, I don't, with me, it's, we're past that.
Yeah.
Yeah, you don't have to like, you know, observe those manners with me.
Yeah.
I respect that.
Because I want to observe your banner dong yeah me too dude
what's up just chilling what do you read dude you're on the night version of the light
yeah on your phone you don't like it no i do i do. Oh, okay. I don't know why I got so self-conscious there.
You don't like it?
No, I don't, dude.
Change it right fucking now.
Why did you do that?
I think Sally was telling me that it's better.
She was like, you got to turn it on darkness,
and then people can't read what you're doing as much.
I think I was like in a movie or something. Oh, they it's more clandestine yes sir so people can't read your stuff yeah nice i thought it was because of the like the light affects your
eyes the blue light or something yeah i think the i in clandestine is clandestine
dang dude but i was at the park yesterday and uh i was just chilling grabbing some sun
uh-huh you have been worried about disease lately for sure i thought i wasn't getting
tanned so i googled is there diseases where you can't get tan anymore and there's none oh
she scared the shit out of me yeah no i know right i was terrified too
no matter what you have you can get tanned dude i'm hyperventilating right now dude is that scary
oh dude my adrenaline's coming through the roof.
Take anything from me, but not my bronze.
Oh, dude.
Emma, did you hear that?
Did you get scared?
Do I get scared?
Did you get scared?
Of, like, disease?
No, well, yeah, for sure.
But, like, of what JT was talking about when he mentioned a potential non-tanning disease?
Yeah, I mean, I definitely get that in the winter
when there's not as much sun.
I feel pale and I feel grosser when I'm paler.
So I kind of get it.
Do you take solace in the fact that
it's not because of a disease,
it's just because of cloud coverage?
And no matter what befalls you,
you'll always be able to get tan.
Yeah.
In the face of it.
I mean, it's nice it's
easier here than it is in like winter places for sure but yeah i got that totally for sure
yeah when i was at the park i observed three 14 year old boys walking and one of them was cool
he was kind of like timothy chalamet and ladybird oh damn and one of them was like medium cool oh fuck and one of them was uncomfortable in his skin kind of like Timothy Chalamet in Lady Bird. Oh, damn. And one of them was like medium cool. Oh, fuck yeah.
And one of them was uncomfortable in his skin.
Oh, sick.
And then three girls their own age approached that they knew.
Yeah.
And I just watched them.
And I was like so fascinated.
I was like, what is going to happen here?
Yeah.
And then the coolest kid just walked up and gave like a casual hug to all three girls.
Yeah.
And then the medium cool kid gave a hug to the girls.
And then the kid who was uncomfortable in his skin like put his hood on and just nodded at the girls no way yeah really that was me oftentimes yeah
damn i think you might even given one of the girls a handshake and then he could sell he was just
tense the whole time then they they went their own ways after a minute yeah and his shoulders just
loosened up yeah he just went back to having a good time with life yeah dude you know what i've
always thought they should have like a course in like college or high school on like greetings and
stuff yes because some people are naturals at it but most people they don't know what they're doing
and like you know that's a stress i deal with in the real world often do i go for the handshake do i go for the pound do i go with the
handshake to hug do i do some kind of crazy shit and throw them off a little bit do i go for the
hook i don't you know you got to read that yeah and it's so tough it'd be nice if you had like
a manual or something to be like dude uh this is what you do in this situation. What do you do now most of the time?
I go for the handshake just to like,
be like,
just to sort of give off like a businessman vibe,
even though I'm an activist.
Can I feel it?
Oh dude,
you hit that nice.
Yeah.
Cause you caught it right.
I think that's really the
key to a handshake is where the thumbs hit you get the web yeah the webbing yeah you want to
really connect the webbing yeah and then grip hard yeah don't crush the guy but but squeeze
but give it a squeeze yeah i like going for the handshake and then i like to improv it you know
go for the handshake and then see if you can get a sliding motion in there to maybe turn it into
like a i don't even know what you call it like a clasp oh i like that yeah yeah and then maybe bring that
in and okay this is what i do if you go for the clasp you pull them in all right yeah don't make
it awkward just pull them in to be like get in here and then bring the other hand around the
back yeah nice yeah pat them hard how many pads two perfect yeah what do you do what's your
i mix it up your math because i'm like i'm mr spontaneity you know what i mean i go in every
situation like this whole fucking thing could backfire yeah yeah and then so i you know i was
at a friend's 30th birthday on saturday happy 30th robbie you're a wonderful guy and uh when i was
leaving his irish cousins were there and i barely knew him and actually uh all the conversation we had was pretty stilted when i was leaving i just said you know what i'm gonna
hug you and i give him a little hug yeah yeah but most of the time i don't know what i'm gonna do
yeah and uh you know i fuck it up all the time but what i try to do is just laugh yeah and then
just be like like watch like what's up man what's up dude oh dude sorry dude no it's okay it's good
to see you there bro yeah you too something like too. Something like that. That was sick.
Yeah.
I had a buddy, Greg, who would always go for the hug.
And it was so warm and nurturing.
And so maybe I'll start doing that.
Some people are huggers.
Straight for a hug.
Some people are just built to hug.
It does feel good when someone's like kind of unsure and you just get the hug in.
You just grab them.
You bring them close.
You just feel them. when someone's like kind of unsure and you just get the hug in, you just grab me, bring them close. It was,
you just feel them.
It was my birthday at the,
the office we've been at.
Yeah.
And the boss came over and hugged me.
Yeah.
And I hugged him deep,
dude.
Oh yeah.
He hugged me around the back and I just wrapped his arms up and I squeezed
him.
Yeah.
And I realized,
I heard him whisper.
I'm not your dad to me.
Really?
No.
But I felt like, I was like, am I, is this too much? Yeah. But Really? No. But I felt like, I was like, is this too much?
But I do like the guy a lot.
So I was like, I squeezed him back.
No, he gives off that vibe.
Yeah, he's paternal, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
You look at him and you feel comfort.
Yeah, and he hugged me first.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But I squeezed him good.
Big squeeze.
Just his arms, but I squeezed those arms.
Hell yeah.
Because I had his back to him.
He kind of hugged me from behind. Yeah what a great guy beast yeah he's a perma legend of the
week perma parmesan cheese what's your favorite cheese um and do you know what manchego is
sharp cheddar no fair what's manchego is? Sharp cheddar. No.
Fair.
What's manchego?
I don't know, but I saw it on a menu the other day and I switched to cheddar actually.
It was coming on a burger.
Yeah?
Yeah.
What's your favorite cheese?
Camembert. Camembert.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Is that a type of bear?
I think it's a cheese from a bear.
Wow.
Yeah.
It sounds aggressive. Yeah. That's cool. Dude, I heard Joe Rog a bear. Wow. Yeah. It sounds aggressive.
Yeah.
That's cool.
Dude, I heard Joe Rogan on his podcast.
Yeah.
Like I hear him on every podcast he does.
And Robert Downey Jr., great one.
Yeah, I listened to that one.
Oh, did you like it?
Yeah, yeah.
It's good.
Good vibes, dude.
Dude, Robert, he's so cool.
Cool dude.
There's like a, when a movie star of that caliber comes on, the tone shifts.
Yeah.
Because where you can tell that Joe feels a little bit, I don't know if nervous is the right word, but it's like he looks up to them a little bit. He wants to make them comfortable.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, there was that part where Rogan was like, dude, I'm so glad you did Doolittle.
I was like, I don't know if I talked to you off camera, if that would be how you, but
that's a good way to open it.
It's smart.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
He's great.
He does the best interviews.
Yeah.
Cause I think sometimes like even when we've interviewed people and I cut a lot of it out,
I'm like, oh, I need to be like a journalist and get this person to like answer deeply,
honestly.
But that's not always the most fun to listen to, you know what I mean?
And you can get those people there maybe more easily if you make them feel good yeah well i think yeah it's
interviews where they're having fun um that's the best i mean what are my favorite interviews
i mean the one with brad leo on wtf was fun i mean they're so
they're so huge in my mind in so many ways.
So to hear them be so cool with Marc Maron.
My favorite part was when Brad so sincerely, he's like, dude, I'm a fan.
I'm a fan.
I'm a fan, dude.
I was like, fuck, he's so cool.
He likes stuff.
Yeah.
Yeah, he is really cool.
He's having a moment in a life full of great moments he's having
the moment right now it feels like yeah but i've never i've never been one for the the interviews
where they're really kind of like probing deep yeah like it's just like uh it um that's not the
tone i enjoy i loved him i used to listen to early marin episodes like the first hundred and he would
just fucking dig on people yeah like he'd be talking to zach galifianakis and he'd be like
so you're in uh end of the wild yeah you're pretty good in that yeah and it'd be like just kind of
like withholding and biting yeah but galifianakis would call him out on it and then it would reveal
things about both of their personalities right yeah and so but he's he's one person who can do
that i think charlotte man that god does
that well too but but not everybody's that person yeah yeah like you can if you watch him with post
malone he's like he's like picking on him the whole time really yeah and post one has his
girlfriend there and he's like you know he's gonna break up with you right like you know you guys
aren't gonna stay together and postman's like why are you causing problems man i'm just saying dude
yeah he kind of has that face too yeah i'm just saying
and then they broke up really yeah how soon after i think it took a little bit but close enough where
it made it seem like charlemagne was right yeah damn but i don't know if it's right to be right
in that circumstance dude i didn't know mayor pete budiachage was gay oh you didn't no yeah i'm i'm
more excited i'm like all right he's got
some zhuzh yeah yeah none of my friends mentioned it either it is kind of he never talked i mean i'm
not following that stuff really at all but it is like i heard it briefly like a year ago but
it's not like it doesn't seem like it's a common topic in conversation.
No.
That's good.
Yeah.
Dude, I...
Are those notes for the pod?
Yeah.
Cool.
Yeah.
I wanted to revisit a question from last week.
A guy wrote in about how he was getting punched at punk shows,
and he had injured one of their guys, and he wanted to get it on.
And we told him he needed to jack off more, and so did the other guys.
And I think that was good advice.
But also, I thought about it more because it kind of stuck in my head.
And I was like, what should he do?
You know what I mean?
And I think sometimes I do a disservice
because I tell stories about when I was in fights,
but I don't tell stories about when I was in fights but I don't tell
stories about when I ran from fights which is much more common right and at one time I stopped a fight
these guys wanted to beat up my friend Clinton because he was beautiful and kind of pompous and
uh and they were going to kick his ass and I saw that they were going to do that like four or five
guys and they would have beat the fuck out of us and so I just went up to the man I went dude we
don't want to fight you and we're sorry for whatever you think we did i'm truly sorry we just want to get out of here yeah
and then the guy was like all right and i was like all right cool and then like i was like and
then clinton was like i'm not getting out of here whatever i was like dude shut up shut up shut up
and we got out of there and i was thinking like maybe if this dude just went up to the guys
and like apologized and then just said he didn't want to fight i think it would take a real scumbag to fight you after that yeah yeah i mean um because it's so unexpected it would throw them
off balance yeah they'd be like oh well thank you all right i'll see you at uh i'll see you later
yeah and if they still want to fight you after that, maybe just don't go to those concerts. Right, yeah.
This was the death metal one?
Yeah, punk, yeah.
Punk.
Those death metal guys are crazy.
Yeah, throw them some compliments too.
Be like, I really like your torn black tee.
Yeah.
It looks like you're in touch with death.
I think in different circumstances,
we really get along and
we would have pretty interesting conversations and dive deep abraham lincoln do i not destroy
my enemy when i make him my friend what a beast yeah i love that movie lincoln yeah the best dude
so good like 30 great actors and every actor is like an oscar winner you're like what the
fuck's going on here it's like a two-line part it's like adam driver yeah yeah strider's arch nemesis
that's one of my favorite beefs and i think when i think of lincoln like the actual abraham lincoln
i think of daniel day lewis no yeah for sure that's the only lincoln although i know actually
i i sorry i take that back i think of the disneyland one oh that's my lincoln i'm not familiar uh he's an animatron uh so he kind of just says one speech
and that's it but that's how i think of lincoln nice it's mlk day today oh right yeah happy mlk
day you're a good dude you too i meant i'm okay but you for sure my dog oh yeah i was like why are you
saying that oh thanks dude emma you're you're a good lady you're a great person emma thank you
i appreciate it oh for sure um what were you gonna say i was saying i'm starting to feel sick
well i was i was so me i was so arrogant. I was like, it's never going to happen.
Everyone else is getting sick.
I'm not going to.
I do steam rooms.
Dude, I literally was looking at you today and I was like, Chad will never die.
There's a tickle in my throat.
I'm pissed.
I have low energy.
I can't think well.
That's as bad as it'll get for you, I'm sure.
It better.
Yeah.
God's looking out for you.
But to more pressing matters, so you broke's looking out for you. So, uh,
but to more pressing matters,
you say you broke up with your GF.
Yeah,
we broke up.
It was about as mutual as it could be.
That's nice.
And it was a good breakup.
Yeah.
And it was hard.
I don't know.
Maybe we'll get back together in time.
Yeah.
It was,
uh,
I do think some of my anxiety was like about maybe wanting to break up and not knowing how you know and even
some of the stokers writing in about it kind of made me reflect on it more yeah yeah but she's
great she's a wonderful wonderful person um yeah yeah i uh you've handled it really well you've
been uh able to uh bounce back i, you're pretty much yourself.
Yeah.
But I'm sorry to hear that, though.
Thank you, dude.
Appreciate it, man.
You guys had a good run.
Yeah.
I've been bummed about it.
Yeah.
It's funny.
I talk about being bummed on here a lot,
but my psychiatrist says I actually don't.
It's lip service.
He says I don't actually let myself feel sad,
that I just... Oh, you just talk it out.
I just talk it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm trying to sit in it more.
Yeah.
Do you, are you trying to share it less or?
Yeah.
Do that less.
And then like just, even though I'm sharing it right now on a podcast and then just sit
in it more.
Yeah.
And just be like, like not like think my way out of it and be like, he says a lot of the
times when I feel physical symptoms and I'm like, oh, hurts or my foot hurts he says that's me i'd rather think
that i was i had something wrong with my body than actually just sit there and think that i was sad
yeah and i think it's mostly about my dad yeah that makes sense yeah because i love him yeah
of course beast um i see i see moments where you sit in it though
oh for sure yeah that's what i told myself yeah i was like i don't think that's the problem man
where were you two weeks ago yeah exactly i know you just look over and you're just like
yeah joe told me joe and i got a drink i'm not drinking right now but i went with joe when he
got a drink on saturday He called me the next day.
He's like, are you all right?
You looked like shit last night.
I was like, physically or emotionally?
He's like, both.
He said, you look dejected.
I was like, I know, man.
But I don't know.
It'll be all right.
It's funny the way he shows concern.
It's the best.
Yeah, because he called me to follow up.
It's like incredibly decent yeah yeah
you look like shit last night well i don't feel that great what i know so he came home last night
and i was like okay i want to look better yeah and he comes in i'm like how do i look he's like
the same there's no glow you're sad yeah exactly dumb ass yeah he's so funny don't no vaping there's no jeweling in here okay he's opening for bobby
lee now it's awesome come on yeah huge big joe big joe i saw an instagram story saying going deep
and it was it was joe up on stage i saw that yeah yeah cool as fuck man that's awesome yeah one of the funniest guys ever the best
what's going on with you dog what is going on i um you're hitting the vids hard you got a system now
what's up you got a system now for video games oh dude yeah i've been addicted to jedi fallen order
how deep into it are you like how far along well i have such an addictive personality that i get
obsessed with things so i'm trying to crush it i'm just trying to beat it as fast as i can so i
lose that uh obsession but i um i'm almost done with the game i've gone to okay so i went to
kashyyyk i went to some other planet i went to dothomir uh nice dealt with the witch lady and the undead and just savored the fuck out of them and then um and i i you know i met some challenges along the way i
had to face a lot of stormtroopers but i learned some powers built up my skill tree and uh just
went to the jedi temple rebuilt my lightsaber so i got a double blade with a pink um pink
fuck what's the crystal?
Damn it.
Emma, do you know what the crystal is in Star Wars?
Not off the top of my head.
Kyber crystals.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Kyber crystals.
I got new Kyber crystals.
I made them pink because real dudes have pink sabers.
Kind of like a dog's dong.
And now, I don't know what I'm doing.
I'm back on Dothamir.
Oh, nice, dude.
And I think I'm going to face Vader pretty soon.
So you went the light direction, or it's the same track,
but where are you at force-wise?
Oh, force-wise, I can do the push, I can do the pull,
I can push a lot of dudes.
Oh, in terms of light or dark?
Yeah.
I thought you meant my tricks.
No, no, I meant that too, but those are light tricks that you're describing, right?
Okay, so the character is Cal.
Pretty standard white dude.
Sort of pretty noble.
You know, he doesn't really seem to be tempted by the dark side at all.
He's kind of just like very...
What kind of white?
Like Irish?
He does look Irish, yeah.
He's got like chestnut kind of hair.
Nice.
Looks a little bit red
but you know very principled he's like i'm light for sure uh and um not tempted by the dark side
at all he just wants to but he does have this uh boss seer who she used the dark side once to uh
take out some stormtroopers and she so she cut herself off from the force so he started dealing
with that he's like what my mentor used the from the force. So he started dealing with that.
He's like, what?
My mentor used the dark side?
So, like, how do I reckon with that?
And, yeah, so it's been a good journey.
I've been making excuses not to hang out with people
so I can finish this fucking game.
Yeah.
Here, I'll call you.
Yeah, what's up?
Dog, what's up? Oh, hey, what's up dog what's up oh hey what's up
dude dude we're at busby's east you want to swing by that's a pause what's up where you at busby's
east you want to swing by and grab some brew daddies um oh i'd love to man but uh i gotta
clean my sheets i've been jizzing all over him dude all right dude he's a tissue next time no i like using the sheets i
gotta clean them later wow does that work do you want to try another one sure chad what up dude
oh what's up dude i got an extra ticket to uh see lewis capaldi at the will turn come with
oh fuck yeah dude oh that sounds so cool oh crap my brother's calling do you want to call me
back after yeah i think i gotta go new york i'll see you all right later dude these chad
what's up dude hey? Hey, man.
Me and a couple of the guys are going to do a weekend trip in Catalina.
Oh, sick.
Fuck yeah, dude. We're going to camp on the backside and observe the bison and go fishing for Dorado.
Oh, that sounds so freaking cool.
Have fun.
Dude, that's crazy, dude.
That's how, like, every phone call has been.
Dude. Emma, do you want to call us That's how every phone call has been. Dude.
Emma, do you want to call us?
Can we call you to hang out?
Or do you want to call us to hang out?
We'll call you to hang out.
Okay, you can call me.
You want to do both of us?
Yeah, you want to do it on speakerphone?
Like a three-way call?
Yeah, you're on speaker.
Hey, Emma, what's up?
Emma, what up?
Not much.
What's going on?
Just chilling.
Doing the pod.
Yeah, do you want to come over and do the
podcast fuck yeah why not nice nice we'll see you soon all right we'll see you there later
that's about how long i like my phone calls to be yeah dude i think every phone call especially
ones that are work related go five to ten minutes extra every time yeah because there's too many
dumb pleasantries and they're just they're like pleasant they're running around the same like topics over and over again yeah you gotta ask
me the same question six different ways and i'll answer it six different ways and then we're good
yeah so we'll see you on a saturday the second then right i'm like confirmed they're like great
yeah second it's a saturday right all right so Saturday, and we'll come by at two, and it might last a couple hours, so that'll probably
take us to about four or five.
I'm like, yeah.
So we'll call it like two to five on the second, if that works for you.
Yeah, yeah, that works.
You sure that, okay, that works for you?
Yeah.
Wait, it's two to five on the second?
Yeah, it's second.
It's a Saturday.
It's like two to five, like the afternoon.
Oh, crap.
I can't make it.
I have to go to the Apple store. I'll you guys dude you're gaming again i looked at the weather it's gonna be about uh 75 degrees i think i'm gonna wear blue jeans
yeah cool bring a jacket though because it might cool down at night you know in case we run long
yeah it might go yeah because because it's a couple hours but if we go to six it says it
could drop to 60 yeah you don't want to be cold.
I know.
I'm like, dude, hang up, dude.
Hang up the phone.
Go fuck yourself.
Send me an email.
Yeah, I'm like, please stop doing this to me.
Please.
And then they text you the morning of.
Hey, we're still good for two to five today?
Yeah, well, then they reschedule.
Then they're like, sorry, we can't do that today.
You're like, all right, dude.
Well, what the fuck, man?
Are you going to repay me? John Mulaney isaney is right canceling plans is the best feeling ever yeah he
says it's better than heroin it is i agree with that when you're like you know what i'm just gonna
do myself a solid and i'm not gonna go out i'm gonna stay home on my own couch by myself feels
so good yeah dude we we were uh we were hungover for the holidays, and we had something.
Do you remember that?
It was on Saturday.
We had an appointment.
I was like, hey, dude, I think you want to push to three.
Yeah, and I'm like, how about we just fucking cancel?
First time you've ever canceled anything.
Yeah.
It was incredible.
I was like, dude.
I laughed a little bit.
I hung up.
I was like, holy shit.
Really? Yeah. I was like, that's never happened before ever. I was pretty hung, dude, I laughed a little bit. I hung up. I was like, holy shit. Really?
Yeah.
I was like, that's never happened before ever.
I was pretty hung, dude.
Dude, you got after it.
Way to get time.
I threw up that night.
Nice.
I came out of the bathroom.
Oh, yeah, you did.
Three of the dudes were waiting.
They're like, you all right?
I'm like, I threw up.
After like four beers and a shot.
I'm sorry, Stokers.
The truth will set you free.
All right, dude, should we answer some questions?
Yes, sir.
I have very limited battery on my laptop, so we'll have to...
I got a charger if you need it.
Does it work with this one?
It's got the lightning jack?
Yep.
Oh, dude, yeah.
Can I grab that?
Yeah, let me grab it for you.
Emma, you're a legend.
Thank you.
What up, Kings of Stoke?
First off, just wanted to say I'm a big fan of the pod.
I've been listening for around a month now and it's definitely helped change my view on life and how I live day to day.
That's nice, man.
Thank you.
That being said, I find myself in a bit of a situation.
I know how you guys feel about these kinds of questions, but feel like this might be a little different situation.
I graduated from college last year and moved around seven hours north for grad school.
Two years ago, I met this girl through a group and we immediately clicked and became good friends and have stayed friends since. When I first met her,
unknown to me, she was in a couple year relationship, but I thought she was awesome
and I really liked her. After finding out she was in a relationship, I still hung out with her and
we became friends. Now she broke up with that guy around six months ago and I find myself talking
to her a little bit more than we did in the past. I'm definitely going to start catching heavy
feelings for her. I can't keep her off my mind and I think she's perfect. I'm just not exactly sure if and how I should tell
her how I feel about her. Right now she's still in college, seven hours from me, but is about to
graduate and move to within an hour drive. She's told me that right now she's not looking for
a relationship simply because she's about to graduate and move, but I think it could possibly
work because she's moving pretty close to me. I'm just not sure what to do in this situation. Thank you, dude.
I think you're thinking about it too much, man.
I mean, you know, she's moving close to you,
and you guys are talking a little bit more.
You guys are mixing it up.
And did he mention if he's asked her out on a date yet?
No, never, because she was in a relationship when they first met.
Yeah, ask her out on a date.
Take her to Chili's.
Get her a Corona Rita. Sounds great, met. Yeah. Ask her out on a date, take her to Chili's, get her a Corona Rita. Sounds great, man. Yeah. Yeah. And I think, I think, uh, it's great, man. It could
all be great. Just ask her out. But I do think you're in a little bit of fantasy, not, not like
it can't happen, but like you're, you're, you're saying like, I can't keep her off my mind and I
think she's perfect. You know, you're going to feel that way about different people at different
times in your life. But the reality is, you know, she's probably that way about different people at different times in your life but
the reality is you know she's probably a complicated person and and and you guys could
still be a great fit but maybe like uh just breathing a little bit you know and being like
you know this is just a person i like right now and i'll ask her out and we'll see where it goes
from there but i wouldn't make it your be all end all but i like where you're coming from with the with being romantic though yeah i like what you're saying i think uh when people say you know when you think
that someone is just like an angel and you can't stop thinking about them you think it's like the
only person you're ever gonna think about like ever again yeah and so it's it's it's nice and
when people say like you're gonna think that about a lot of people,
you're like, what?
How?
Yeah.
But it's nice to hear that perspective to sort of get your dome a little bit straight.
Yeah.
Just stay romantic, but.
Yeah, it's a hard.
It's like a mixture of romanticism and realism and a little bit of stochacism.
Yeah, just be like a little bit laughing at yourself. Like, man, and realism and a little bit of Stokacism. Yeah.
Just, you'd be like a little bit laughing at yourself.
Like, man, I'm, I'm being a little crazy right now, but you know what I feel, how I feel
and I got to follow that out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Dude, it reminds me of some Stoker message when he's like, dude, I'm in love with this
girl, but she says she doesn't want to be with me.
What do I do?
And I said, you move on with your life.
You just live as best you can.
Find something you're passionate about.
Get really good at it.
All that stuff.
One day later, he messages me.
Dude, I'm in love with another girl.
What do I do?
I go, this is a different girl?
He goes, yeah.
I'm like, whoa, buddy, you move fast.
I like it.
I'm all for those fantasies of you guys rolling in a field sucking face And then you milk a cow together
And you drink the milk
That's great
Get drenched
What's up boys pretty much my whole life I've had a massive crush
On this girl in my friend group she has known about it for the longest time
And has shot my every advance down
Recently however I was just told
By my boy who's dating her friend
That she's now into me
While I trust my boy I haven't noticed a difference in her towards me when we hang out.
How should I go about this situation?
I don't know, man.
She likes you.
Trust your friend.
Next time you're with her, when the right moment comes, talk for a while and build up to it.
But when the right moment comes, either you tell her how you feel or you ask her if you can kiss her or if the moment's really right you try and give her a respectful
kiss yeah i say shoot your shot it's always worth it worse that happens is they say no and it's
awkward for like a second and then you're adults and you forget about it nice yeah i the reason i
laughed is because i just remember like myself in like fifth and sixth grade when you're adults and you forget about it nice yeah i the reason i laughed is because i just remember
like myself in like fifth and sixth grade when you're just asking like everyone you're like what
would ariel say what'd she say what'd she say she like me no she thinks you're a douche oh fuck
and then you have someone else would what ariel say she likes you i'm like what no way
uh beating beating around the bush is never gonna get you to where you want to go.
You know,
you just got to go for it
and just be like,
whatever her name is,
Victoria,
do you want to know a secret?
I want to take you to Applebee's.
Dude,
that was like a poem.
Thanks.
Dude,
when I was
angling to ask out
my first girlfriend,
she was a childhood friend
of Strider's.
Yeah.
And someone goes, dude, I think she's got a crush on jt and strider goes no dude she's cool he doesn't even
remember saying it i'm like yeah it stuck with me for so long i was like a motherfucking piece
of shit yeah you son of a bitch god damn you uh i remember when there's this girl this girl sam
who uh she was like my first like crush
in like fourth grade. Cause like her friend Olivia gave me a note. I was like, Sam is going
to be on instant messenger tonight. Message her there and message her. I'm like, what up?
And, uh, I was so shy that I never spoke to her in person. I was like, I can't do it. I can't.
And then she dated my brother and I got so heated about it that we were at the swim.
We were at the country club or whatever, the pool.
And they were being all cutesy in the pool.
And just to show my dominance, I was doing butterfly stroke the entire time,
flexing my delts.
I came out, just lats were were swollen and i just looked at them
beelined it to the locker room and i hung dong even your hot revenge body
just yeah it was pretty small back then but thank you but lean yeah dude just straight butterfly
that's awesome dude just for like an hour. With those young joints, able to withstand that.
Yeah.
I think she noticed.
For sure.
Yeah.
I bet if you called her today, she'd be like, this is Chad.
She's like, with the butterfly stroke?
I'm like, yeah.
She's like, oh, wow, your delts are so pronounced.
I'm like, yeah.
What's up, bros?
I've recently been lacking, and I have decided I need to get stronger physically.
With that being said, I'm also thinking this is a great time
to start reading and getting the mental right.
Just wanted to know some books
that you would encourage me to read
so I can gain some knowledge.
On another note,
your pod and Joe Rogan's pod
have inspired a friend and I to make one.
Thanks for getting me stoked when the times are tough.
Say what up to the main man strider
and give Joe's hog a tap.
I'm sorry, what was the question?
He wants to know what to read.
Oh.
hog a tap i'm sorry what was the question he wants to know what to read oh i think you gotta do meditations by marcus aurelius i think you gotta do the untethered soul by someone else
huckleberry finn by mark twain
you got anything else yeah when i first got into reading i liked christopher hitchens letters to a
young contrarian which can make you very annoying but it's cool and it's brief um david foster
wallace is uh consider the lobster and a supposedly fun thing i'll never do again and then i love the
novels of richard price if you're young especially uh like the wanderers is very relatable but his
best stuff is a lush life or clockers and uh they're like crime stories but like he says crime's just a lazy way into a plot it's
really about who these people are and his dialogue is rich also uh joseph campbell's a beast the
power of myth yeah hero's journey i love that stuff and uh get some history in there dude read about churchill or
b franklin freaking b franklin read about cool dudes and ladies yeah that is inspiring i like
deep work by cal newport that guy's a beast it's all about disconnecting and getting into your dome let's go uh emma do you have any books you like um i've read a really good book
it was over the summer i'm trying to remember the name of it but it's a book of interviews
with judd apatow and he like interviews all the people he's worked with and stuff and it's really
good i highly recommend it it's a night it's kind of a little inside baseball but like in a cool way yeah i've read that that's good yeah that one was really
good poking a dead frog that's a good one it's all comedy writers yeah mike sax that one's good
i like a good book that that it's like real like interviews like that but like also kind of funny
sick in the head yeah nice way to like laugh. Yeah, that was really good. Oh, this is an interesting one.
Title, is Alex Bregman still a chill dude?
What up, Brad and Leo?
Oh, my bad.
Always get my legendary duos mixed up.
Oh, dude.
You know how to cut to the core of me.
Oh, my God.
Dude.
Oh, man.
Thank you, dude.
I'm writing you the moral dilemma regarding the Astros cheating scandal.
I already have my mind made up on how I feel about the coaching staff in front office,
but I don't know how to feel about the players, specifically Alex Bregman.
Breg became my favorite player in the bigs after listening to his guest episode on the
pod when I realized he's an absolute chiller who gets after it hard and hits dingers harder.
Now it's pretty evident he was involved in this signed stealing cheating scandal,
which is super unchill.
I don't want to judge his entire persona
based off one moral mishap,
but I'm for sure peed off he cheated the game
that he's so passionate for.
I'd love to hear if you think
Breg is still an absolute beauty
like I did after hearing him on the pod,
or if we should rethink his legendary status
as a ball-playing bro.
I appreciate the response,
and thanks for always keeping me stoked,
Chad and JT.
Dude, that's a tough question
because he's our dog.
He was on the pod. Yeah. He's nice tough question because he's our dog.
He's on the pod.
Yeah.
He's nice enough to be a guest and say what up.
But,
you know,
if the reports are true,
he was complicit
in this scandal.
Yeah.
And,
was active in it.
Active in it.
And people make mistakes,
you know,
when there's groupthink,
it's hard to resist
so yeah i mean i think it's not chill yeah if he cheated but he can return to chillness through a
life of you know doing better too yeah yeah and i mean dude i'm not like perfect you know what i
mean like i did stupid shit um i think when i first started doing stand
up i would do like i would do like hannibal burrish jokes and stuff like that yeah yeah
um which is like such an embarrassing thing to admit but i did so um i don't know i i don't
think it's cool to cheat though and i the people i admire the most don't cheat they have strong ethics when it comes to that stuff but yeah it's it's tough to
now i'm not sympathizing i'm not trying to you know sympathize too much but it's it's
when you're exposed to a situation like that and you have you know it can be tough to resist
the temptation.
And so sometimes if you're around that for a long time, maybe you'll resist for a little bit.
Then you'll get caught up in it.
And next thing you know, you're complicit in everything.
So, you know, a lot of times people get swept up in it.
But it definitely was not chill.
There's a time when, you know, in high school on my e-contest, we had all the answers.
And we were all cheating on it.
And I did, and then he, like, caught wind of it. So this one test came up, and I answered everything from, like, I didn't study at all.
I answered everything from the last test, basically cheating.
And he caught me.
And he didn't get me in trouble. He just like i wasn't chill dude and uh you know your supply and demand is low and uh and i just felt like a
doucher and i tried to be improve myself after that yeah that's another example i just got caught
up in it i was like oh the option for something easier
is right there i'm gonna take it yeah it's a good question what's up you deities mistoke you guys
are absolute beauts and i think it's dope that you answer all your fans jt responded me when i
sent him a video of some kid shredding his favorite karaoke song sorry if this is a little long but i
think i can shed some light on the discussion about
if a bigger dong produces a stronger stream
than you had a few pods ago.
I couldn't find any peer-reviewed studies done on this,
but I am in medical school,
so I can tell you that the dong
is comprised of erectile tissue,
which is basically a sponge,
and their urethra runs through this erectile tissue.
I hypothesize that since a large dong
has more of this tissue,
it can lead to decreased
cross-sectional area of the urethra,
and via Bernoulli's equation, that would mean there needs to be an increase in velocity
so big dong equals stronger stream i also have a quick question if that's cool i recently asked
you can ask any question after that fire explanation i recently asked out this girl
out in my class and she said she isn't looking for something right now we are still friends and
hang out a good amount what do you recommend i do in order to make her think she does? She does want something right now. My game plan is just to
be present and be me, but I'm not sure if there's anything else I should do. Thanks for being dude.
You're a killer, bro. I mean, you know, stuff you send videos of your friends shredding at karaoke.
You're a generous guy who wants to celebrate his dogs. You understand understand you understand mathematics and science and you can contextualize
that into dong talk i mean bro you don't have to do anything it's coming out baby
keep being you spread the good word of dong inertia velocity terminal velocity of urine coming out of the hog i wonder if there's
as much cool math about lady streams oh good question well we can put it out to the stokers
and i'm sure we'll get some fire intel do you think kegels uh help the stream maybe i don't
see why not it's like all the muscles in there right keeping it tight
yeah so you can really just like projectile it yeah you really like shoot your shot
fire dude um but yeah this guy's a beast just keeping you yeah keep digging that knowledge i
like that what up dogs i kind of have a sitch that i thought would be a
perfect question for you guys my best friend used to drop dong all the time at parties and it got
all of our levels of stoke to skyrocket into the atmosphere he even had an alternative personality
when he dropped dong of a pro wrestler called the annihilator it was so rad and it got everyone's
stoke levels to the next level all the dudes girls everyone but he has not dropped dong in
many moons in our stoke tanks when we're all together has not ever been close to full is there anything i can say to him that maybe he'll one day dong in many moons and our stoke tanks, when we were all together, has not ever been close to full. Is there anything
I can say to him that maybe he'll one day drop dong
again and get our levels of stoke to that level again?
Also, shout out to you guys for talking about
driving stick shift on a couple pods ago. Very rad.
Yeah, I mean, dude, driving stick.
It takes me a couple rounds to get it back
into my system and remember how to do it.
But once I'm flowing, it feels good, dude.
Next car I got, I want to get stick.
I don't know if they're selling manual transmission anymore.
They're doing it.
You get good, baby.
You might have to get it custom.
I'm going to have to get a Toyota Supra.
Oh.
I was in Chile driving a little bit.
It's all stick down there.
And me and two dudes, I met a couple of European guys,
one of which I think I mentioned on the pod,
was very condescending to me
when i predicted that john snow was the son of ray guard terry garrison he's like i don't think
that's possible what a silly what a silly idea i don't have his contact info but what's up now dog
um but sorry it's way too no no keep it coming was so fired up. I was baked out of my mind on an edible, too.
We met a girl out there when we were hiking, and she was like, oh, I need a ride back.
And I was like, well, I'm driving, but I just learned how to drive stick.
And he was like, no, he's a very good driver.
Stalled twice on the way home, but kept us alive.
Yeah.
Let's go.
I love it.
Dude, with the Annihilator, you know what I i would do you know what gets me is when people
bring up old memories like epic stories involving him dropping dong and they're like dude remember
that time when you dropped dong at terry's b-day party and uh you know you put it in the pizza
i don't know sorry uh just keep coming with stories like that him dropping
dong and how it made you feel how it made the squad feel you know just the sight of his hog
coming out just letting loose embracing the streak boosting stoke wherever he goes just
letting himself fly be free be happy and be himself um just keep conjuring up those
feelings within him stir it up before you know it his pants are flying off you'll be seeing that
dong dude i'm just overwhelmed with compassion all directions here because i get where you're
coming from where you want to see that dong and you want to get excited and you know there i think the best way to do it is get another person to start dropping dong and then
that person right you know like the rehabilitator chain reaction everyone's talking about that dude
and then your buddy's gonna get that competitive spirit coming back yeah you know and be like what
they think he drops dong better than me and then he'll come out of retirement you know what i mean
he'll start dropping dong and i feel for this guy you know, I've been the guy who drops dong.
And sometimes you just want to rebrand, you know.
Jordan took a couple years off from basketball, you know.
It's like he might just be recharging the bats.
He might not be done forever.
But if he is, you know, we still got to love him.
It's like the documentary Hoop Dreams where everyone's super invested in this high school kid becoming an NBA player.
And he's like, people always tell me like, hey, don't forget about me when you make it.
And he's like, yeah, well, don't forget about me if I don't.
Dude, I like where your head's at.
You're talking about like a house of dong cards.
Yeah.
One drops, they all do.
So start that chain reaction, you know.
Maybe get the guy from the last question to come in
and talk about the physics of it.
What do they say in the Three Musketeers?
Drop dong.
One and done, one for all.
For the dong-a-thon?
Mm-hmm.
D'Artagnan.
I know what they say.
There's a lot of nougat in this bar.
Dude, I think Musketeer swords are the weakest of all the swords, too.
Yeah?
Those skinny sabers dude oh
i'd much rather have a broadsword yeah yeah what would you want would you want sort of like a
smaller super sharp maybe katana okay okay katana or a broadsword what's a katana is that like a
samurai sword samurai sword samurai sword you want a tori hanzo that's what i'm doing katana
yeah um so you can kill Bill.
Yeah, dude, broadswords, I mean, you're swinging it around.
It doesn't look elegant.
It doesn't look cool.
It's power-based.
A katana, yeah.
I'll take speed and agility every time.
Absolutely.
Like Conor McGregor said, timing beats speed and precision beats power.
Man, that fight, 40 seconds seconds i mean i all the people who
are saying it's a fix i get it i mean what would be better for the company than having connor just
come out and dominate someone and look like he's totally back but serone gets knocked out a lot
lately although he's a legend i saw uh dan bilzerian he bet like a million dollars on
serone no he didn't yeah he posted a photo of like a pile of cash
and he's like for sarone and then i guess he posted another thing well shit bill zarian's a
guy i'd love to see sad i know he's talked about it a little bit but like i remember i partied on
a boat one time in cabo yeah i was so debaucherous when i got home i just bawled my eyes out yeah
i just wonder if he's oh, I'm fucking all these chicks,
and I'm shooting machine guns.
What the fuck am I doing, man?
I don't know who the fuck I am.
Yeah.
He's got to have those moments.
I think so.
Bilzerian's kind of a cool-ass name.
Yeah, it is.
Bilzerian.
Dan Bilzerian.
Do you think if you were Dan Bilzerian, do you think you'd be happy?
No. Hey, Dan. I think it'd be fun bilzerian do you think you'd be happy no hey dan i mean there's aspect i think it'd be fun but i don't think i'd be happy i don't need i think you'd
be happy for like a week yeah i don't know i definitely like to drop into that once in a while
but if i don't know what do you think i'm a do you what do you think about him do you know him i don't think i know
who that is oh man he's like this like uh he's kind of like the modern era hugh hafner but there's
like more it's more testosterone infused he just like posts photos all day of him with like really
hot women and he's like shooting machine guns all the time and he says like douchey things like my
accountant tried to tell me not to spend a million dollars today,
but I asked him if I was still rich,
told him to fuck off, stuff like that.
Doesn't sound like my type of dude.
So I'm not surprised I don't follow him,
but maybe I should go check it out.
Yeah.
Yo dudes, first and foremost,
thank you for everything you guys believe in.
Hopefully the gang is all here for this one
or quite honestly,
maybe hope that I just get an email back.
Not here for the clout.
So gents, I've been suffering for depression for about two years now some days good some bad I constantly dealing
with never feeling good enough for my girlfriend my family or work I've been in the military since
2010 and unfortunately it has allowed me to develop a lot of fucked up feelings I constantly
I constantly think my significant other is never pleased I constantly overthink and pry during
every moment in all arguments it is leading me back down a dark path that I used to find myself
at home about two years ago.
I was cheated on, lied to, and
ultimately deceived by someone I wanted to spend a life
with. Ex-girlfriend, aka home wrecker.
I've moved past it all, met
someone amazing, work has been better,
family and friends all great, but unfortunately
facing these demons I've created internally when
things get sticky with my new girl.
Chatting JT, I want you guys to know that listening to your podcast
has given me a lot of insight on how to live in shitty times.
I've developed a fucked up mentality that I'm never good enough
or everyone is out to get me.
It destroys my self-esteem and depletes my stoke tank.
I've been reading some decent books.
Please suggest some of your favorites.
Been hitting the slopes with my friend from work,
staying away from drinking, and just trying to find help where I can.
Most recently, I wanted to end my life,
but I knew it was never something I'd follow through with. My lady friend and I
are no longer dating because of me constantly
overthinking and creating situations and scenarios that
might not be true. Long story short, fucking
up our love life. I'm at a loss right now
and have been struggling hard. I feel I know the
answers in which you guys can help
I feel I know the answers
in which you guys can help me out with.
I would just love to hear if you guys
have dealt with suicidal thoughts, how you've made it through bad breakups and what you guys would do when you
exceed past rock bottom. I'm in the gym daily. I'm reading a chapter a night from any book I'm
told to read and mostly ones I really think I'd enjoy. I'm seeking professional help and I'm
nervous as to what I should talk about. My girlfriend recently broke up, suggested me to
seek help and I'm going to. JT, I've heard once or twice you've sought out therapy and how does
one begin? Where do you start? I deal with depression,
anxiety,
and overall my ability to overly critically think
about absolutely everything
I pursue in life.
You guys are doing
a justice society
by shedding the stoke
to those who listen.
Much love, dudes.
And hopefully I can receive
some dope feedback.
Yeah, you know,
after college,
I struggled with drinking
a little bit.
It was like a year or two where I was
just like drinking way too much and it got to the point where I'd like start drinking in the morning
and uh so I took a break from it I stopped drinking for a while I went to therapy for like
a few months and uh that's sort of what inspired me to get on this track of like doing things that make you feel good in like a real way.
Because I started to recognize those urges to like drink or, you know, drink a bunch of coffee or do anything to just sort of like take your mind off of,
just to give you that, I was always in search of that like up feeling.
And the more I engaged in healthy behavior
and started becoming more sensitive to diet
and, you know, thinking about my feelings, honesty,
just sort of seeking out as much
healthy behavior as i can the happier i got and the more i was able to sustain it um so that's
just from my personal experience i know you know you're going through some tough stuff but i would
say the best thing for me whenever i've been low is i've, whenever I, it's so hard to leave the house,
but once you leave the house and you get out into the real world and you just
start doing things that you know are good for you,
it just feeds your soul,
I think.
And you just,
it compounds and compounds and you just build on that and build on that.
And then you're able to build,
um,
a sustainable contentment,
I guess is the right word.
But, um,
and then it's also just finding something that you've just finding a path or a mission in your life that you want to, um,
that fuel that, that you're never,
it's not like you're really searching for an end it's like you're just
searching for continual improvement and just um continual progress i think i think progress
making progress in certain areas in your life is sort of the key to happiness i found so
uh i hope that made sense i'm kind of my domes all over the place, but yeah, man.
That's what's up.
Yeah, my dog.
I'm sorry you're suffering, man.
I think you're being really hard on yourself.
I think you're being hard on yourself, and it's kind of grinding you down,
and I know what that's like.
You say you're worried that you're letting down your girlfriend,
your family, and your work.
I bet you everyone at those places
thinks you're pretty great.
Yeah.
And I think they all want you to be happy
and that they're all probably pretty proud of you.
It sounds like you do a lot of good stuff.
I think maybe it's hard to be compassionate to ourselves sometimes. It's easy to dismiss what we're feeling or tell us that
we're stupid or soft or weak or that we're focused on the wrong stuff. And you know, sometimes you
got to be tough, but sometimes you just got to just let yourself be. Like if one of your really
good friends came to you and like told you all this,'d probably be like dude you're great man i love you and i just want you to be happy and and you're doing
great and and i know you're gonna get through this but i think you got to say that to yourself
you know treat yourself like how you would treat one of your really good buddies and just yeah be
compassionate to yourself because you deserve it like you deserve to feel how you feel.
And yeah, I've had dark, dark thoughts, man, all the way to the worst.
And I think sometimes that was my inability to feel my sadness.
So I was just looking for a way out, you know.
Sometimes you have an awkward conversation, you just want to run out of the room instead of just sitting there and like feeling those feelings.
So I think when you go to therapy, and you definitely should,
you just got to sit in it and really deal with it,
or it will deal with you.
And I know you're going to do great, man.
You're a great guy.
You got a lot of good stuff in your future.
Don't beat yourself up.
Life's already hard enough.
You deserve,
you deserve to be gentle with yourself, brother.
And thank you for serving, man.
It's a, you know, it's a big commitment.
Should probably maybe try some meditations.
Oh yeah, that's great.
Cause I always find that those help
when I have really dark thoughts.
Like it's a really good way to try to clear your mind
and find the good ones again.
Yeah, I love meditating. That's good stuff. stuff yeah i've been doing i do like i've been like breathing exercises meditation i found this new app sync tuition
i listen to it's like a meditation before i go to bed just puts me right to sleep
sleep is huge i've been uh ever since i've been, like, more aware of, like, health and stuff, I've been, you're able to see, like, how much, like, lack of sleep and poor nutrition affects not only your body, but your state of mind.
So, I just find that those are some real tangible things that can help.
I just find that those are some real tangible things that can help.
And also, yeah, you know, like JT was saying, self-love, self-compassion.
I've always found the idea of self-love has always seemed like such a strange thing to me.
I'm like, what?
Love myself?
That's so weird.
Yeah, because it feels like we're already the most important. I'm like, I do.
I'm the most important'm like i do i'm
the most important person in my life yeah i've never yeah it took like a therapist to be like
be like you hate yourself i'm like i never even like thought about that right i'm like what are
you talking about but then once you start to like understand it it's it seems weird but i think the
more you just meditate on it think about it it, then you're able to develop that.
Because I think most people grow up without the right foundation to have self-love.
Yeah, we don't get the tools all the time.
And it's no one's fault, or sometimes it is, but oftentimes it's not.
We don't always get the tools to deal with what we experience yeah i mean it's like you go into the
world you you know you start dealing with social things and it's like um yeah it's so easy to uh
unless you're like a freaking fire baseball player right out the bat those guys probably
deal with self-hatred too. Yeah, they're scared too.
They're just better at compartmentalizing.
I respect the fuck out of people who can do that.
They put it in the swing.
But not everyone's the same.
And yeah, just be nice to yourself.
And it's good you're getting help, man.
And keep writing and we'll email you back
and we'll have a dialogue.
Always get to reach out too.
I think you'll find, like, it's crazy.
Like, when I talk to most people too, it's like, and it helps me,
most people are like, want to help.
If you tell most people like, hey, I'm not feeling great,
they'll be like, hey, man, it's all good.
It's not always the perfect thing that they say.
But most people, we want to live by other people's happiness, not by their sadness.
Yeah.
It's a Charlie Chaplin movie.
You know what I do?
I watch Golden Retrievers.
Because dogs always have the best.
I mean, I watch all dogs.
Because they live life.
They have the best approach to life ever.
Dude, I'm putting in...
Always stoked.
Putting in smooth stimulation, dude.
Yeah. Like, when I'm feeling super fucked, I't watch like dark shit no of course yeah yeah i just watch
like a meditator i watch like waves you know what i mean yeah get some tranquility around you yeah
watch some comedy get inspired watch brad pitt and once upon a time in ho, just watch him drive. That makes me happy.
Hell yeah.
All right, dude.
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Yeah.
Dude, pervert.
We talked about that, right?
Greatest insult in the world.
You're a pervert. You're a pervert yeah dude pervert we talked about that right greatest insult in the world you're
a pervert you're a pervert that's why i was watching uh punch drunk love this weekend and
his sister dude when he calls uh uh philip seymour hoffman that was one of the funniest
things oh it's hilarious dude their scenes are so good he's like yeah well you're a pervert
i'm warning you what's my name
Barry Egan
when he comes
what does Philip Seymour Hoffman
say to him at the end
when like Barry Egan's like
and this is it
like don't ever
like do anything to me again
he's like this is what happens
when you become a pervert
something like that
and then he turns around
and then Philip Seymour Hoffman
just goes
enough
like calls it he's like alright it's cool and around and then Philip Seymour just goes enough like calls it
yeah
he's like
alright it's cool
and flames
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that's it
yeah
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I gotta rewatch that
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I have love in my life
and it makes me more
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I'm stronger
and more powerful
than you will ever imagine
I love it dude
fuck yeah
I drove to Utah and now I'm back here
My dog
What is your beef of the week
My beef of the week has to go
With
Dog hair
I love dogs don't get me wrong I freaking love dogs
But it's all over my car
All over my couch all over my bed all over my sweater
That I'm wearing right now you know
Just freaking hair, dude.
I mean, what's the deal with hair and falling out?
Has anyone ever thought about that?
Yeah, there's a part of our testosterone that causes it to fall out.
I wasn't talking about baldness.
I was just talking about in general.
Oh, good call.
Like, you know, why does it have to do that?
In dogs?
Yeah, why are they shedding all over the place you know
just keep your flow intact right um even with humans too i mean humans shed it's not even
balding they just shed i mean come on hair get it together you know stop getting all over my stuff
you know i just moved into a new place now I have to worry about hair everywhere and I have to
get a freaking lint roller.
Dude, I'm stocking up on lint rollers.
Those are the best. I know.
Everyone should have one in their apartment.
I want to spend that money on crisp white tees though.
I don't want to spend that money on lint rollers.
I know, dog.
There's nothing less stokifying than
buying cleaning supplies even though
having a clean place makes you pretty amped.
What's your white teeth and you get the three packs or you get
the solos? I go to J.Crew and I get the
premiums. Oh nice dude.
But sometimes they have the deals like two for
$25. Oh that's fire.
And that gets me pretty hard.
Gap's not looking good with their new line. It's been a little
weak. Yeah. Dude actually that's my beef
of the week is with the Gap. Yeah.
Your new line is soft. Yeah. Urban Out that's my beef of the week is with the gap yeah your new line is soft
yeah
Urban Outfitters 2
what the hell is going on
over there
what's going on
I haven't been there at all
it used to be preppy SoCal
now it's like
white urbanite
it's
yeah
it's like the
wide collars
hanging past the knees
they don't have regular
white tees there
really
no
everything's got something on it
closest thing they have
is Patagonia.
I rock that.
But I was really disappointed.
I mean, they still got the jeans I like, you know, the light blue.
But overall, a very disappointing descent into a style that I don't like from Urban Outfitters.
And Gap, you're where I normally go to just get good, solid stuff.
And your summer line, no, spring line, I guess, is what we're in right now.
Because it's always like a little bit in front.
Weak, bro.
And that hurts me, dude, because I love the gap.
You know, I rep them hard.
Yeah, well, take it to them.
Maybe they'll hear this and they'll get back on track.
Yeah, it's all with love.
I just want you guys to improve.
Dude, what's your babe of the week?
Who's your babe of the week?
My babe of the week is my GF's dog is my gfs dog rosie nice dude i freaking
love dogs i mean i'm gonna get a dog soon a little too busy at the moment but i think i want to you
know i'm not i'm not i'm not getting like i'm not pushing for a specific one you know because i want
to when i see i'll go to like a shelter when i see the dog i'm going to feel the connection
and we're gonna embrace um but i think it'm going to feel the connection, and we're going to embrace.
But I think it's going to be a black lab.
Oh, the best.
Yeah.
Anyways, I took Rosie to my apartment.
It was just us.
It was a Saturday night.
We had a nice little sleepover.
I gave her water.
I gave her some food.
We just chilled hard on the couch.
She snuggled with me um and we just had
a good time you know i was playing jedi fallen order and then we watched naked gun and then um
i you know we just like had a nice little sleepover and um and then when i went to see her
the other night she was so excited to see me she like embraced me and then she gave me like a playful bite which means that dogs are so excited they
can't even like contain themselves so I'm just stoked to know that we have that bond that vibe
and Stokers keep telling us more about your dogs and send us photos so we can say what up
that's nice dude yeah yeah people complain about doggy photos but it's like
when you have doggies dude when you're with about doggy photos, but it's like they're doggies.
Dude, when you're with a dog, you can't help it.
They want to be photographed.
Yeah.
They're so cute.
They're the best.
Yeah.
Little bundles of joy, dude.
What's your baby?
Want to bite your face, cutie.
My baby of the week is Luke Kukli, linebacker for the carolina panthers former defensive player of the year as
many of you know he retired at the age of 28 most likely due to fear of cte he's had some hard
concussions that we've witnessed and it was a hard thing to witness but i am just so impressed by this
guy not only as a football player but as a man dude you got to read the way his teammates talk
about him like he doesn't have social media, which is cool.
And all of his teammates still wrote these really glowing, uh, just assessments of who
he is on, uh, on social media.
Like Greg Olson said, words can't describe who Luke Luke Lee is as a person, friend,
and teammate.
We have shared countless memories together, both on the field and away from it.
I feel honored to be his friend and always appreciate the impact he had on my life. Love you, buddy. I mean, they're teammates. So you're like, all right, I get it.
But then, I mean, the depth of it.
Trey Boston said,
And it just goes on, like jonathan stewart luke kukli is one of the most pure and authentic
people i've met he was a great teammate and friend honored to have played with you the
great iron will miss your present but i'm excited to see what the next chapter has for you love you
bro and it just comes from every direction from teammate and opponent they all just say he was one of the best
guys like to ever do it like they're all like yeah he was a dominant football player but
doesn't even compare to the one that he to the person he was and i just i love that dude ethical
gladiator what's cooler than that that's ass that's epic jack dude with a gentle soul. Come on. I like it. Fire me up, Luke. Fire me up.
Chad, who is your legend of the week?
My legend of the week is my buddy Kevin L.
Beast.
College buddy.
A.K.A. Mr. Plow.
A.K.A.
That's it.
Clear the road.
Clear the road because he's coming.
And if you have snow, it's getting tossed to the side on the sidewalk.
That's where it goes.
Yeah.
So, Kevin, what up, dude?
He's just a legend.
He's just been a good friend ever since college.
Just always looking out.
Always bringing the laughs.
Always bringing the stoke.
Always bringing the good vibes.
Always bringing the good vibes always bringing the party you know like if you hit up kevin
l and you're coming to visit town or he's coming to visit town he's bringing the rager he's bringing
the good vibes and he's bringing the beer bong he's gonna make sure that you funnel at least
three brews dude and then you create some good memories because kevin's all about he's just like
he's one of your he's one of those dogs where you're just like dude you're a good memories because Kevin's all about, he's just like, he's one of your, he's one of those dogs where you're just like,
dude,
you're a good dude and I like it.
So shout out to Kevin.
Keep being a beast.
Mr.
Plow.
You roughed this yesterday too.
Beer bong enthusiast,
quiet environmental conservationist.
Cause they're not burning red cups.
Absolutely.
You know,
they're green.
That's what's up,
dude.
Who's your legend?
My legend of the week is Greg Whitley and Gabby Butler.
Greg Whitley, the creator of Last Chance U,
one of the best docuseries of all time,
especially the first two seasons
when we're at East Mississippi State.
But dude, he's got another banger, Cheer,
about the best cheerleading team in the country at Navarro College.
Great characters, explosive athletes, and just the same kind of rhythm of Last Chance U,
but in the other side of the sports spectrum.
And it's just as compelling and none more compelling to me than Gabby Butler.
She's been famous since she was a little kid on social media doing stretches and just a freak athlete.
She's like the most famous cheerleader in America.
She drills it every time, but dude, she's so transparent on the show
about how much pressure she feels and how it gets to her. And you're like, all right, well,
you're an ace in the hole, total stud when you're on the mat, but then you also have a
three-dimensional personality that makes you compelling. That's what's up. You are inspiring.
Gabby, keep hucking aerials or they call it throw it your throws are off today
dude the coach super hot super smart dominant competitor she's freaking doing the battle ropes
and then she's got a battle she's got the kids on the mat they like hurt their back but they hurt
their back being foolish not really but just competing more than she would have liked them to and she's like keep going and the kid keeps getting hurt she's like again yeah
breaking them maybe making them stronger you know world breaks this makes us stronger in the broken
places but sometimes no sometimes you get hurt and it's degenerative for sure for sure chad
what is your...
Emma, do you have a beef babe or legend that you'd like to amplify on?
My only beef is L.A. real estate.
Oh, dude, yeah.
I'm looking for an apartment right now, and it's just fucking brutal out there.
What's going down?
I hear you.
It goes fast.
I heard once a place is on the market, it's gone in like eight hours.
You got to be first to it.
Yeah, things move really fast.
And it's like you have to give 30 days before you can leave your current spot.
But when you find one, they want you in there in like two days.
And like security deposits and like everything.
The pictures are all lies.
It looks beautiful and then you show up and it's actually a dump.
So it's a whole game.
Pictures are all lies now.
I mean, there's too much we can do with like
composition it's like photoshop shop has gotten too good it's too good too good so you can't
believe a single photo you see online it's all fake i know i had those experiences when i was
moving to like what is going on you like think you find the perfect apartment you get all excited
about it then you show up and it's like actually a basement with no windows. The size of it too.
You're like,
oh, this place is huge.
And then you get in there
and you're like,
it's a shoebox.
Yeah, you're like,
this is a glorified closet.
What are you talking about?
Who's your photographer?
I want them to take pictures
of my dong.
Yeah, exactly.
Whoa.
Yeah.
Dude, I mean,
I gotta say,
Culver City.
Yeah, that's definitely
on the list. There's some good stuff out there. Throw's on the that's definitely on the list there's some
good stuff out there throw it on the dar hell yeah i love it good vibes spacious good people
in culver city too right good people quality people good food yeah great food good steam room
uh good steam room uh and then you got you know you got manhattan beach right there venice
you got and then you got west holly I mean, it's a perfect location.
That's what's up.
Chad, what is your quote of the week?
Well, this is off your recommendation,
so I'm going to do a scene from Fast and the Furious.
Yeah, because you've been crushing this.
Oh, dude, thank you.
And I need you to prompt me.
Okay.
So I need you to go,
Brian, don't lose that cool of yours.
That's your meal ticket.
Brian, don't lose that cool of yours.
That's your meal ticket. Oh, my that cool of yours That's your meal ticket
Oh my can't take it again
Yeah for sure
I'm gonna get in the zone
Yeah my dog
The Paul zone
Brian
Don't lose that cool of yours
That's your meal ticket
Well my meal ticket
Well I can't pay for my own shrimp
I got the shrimp
Is it
No see
That's one thing you understand
About me Dom
I don't need handouts
I don't take handouts
I earn my way every step
Just gotta make a little Something extra on the side Like you Like me, Dom. I don't need handouts. I don't take handouts. I earn my way every step.
Just gotta make a little something extra on the side like you.
Like me?
That's what I mean.
What do you mean?
That's what I mean.
Look, I'm not stupid, all right?
I know there's no way in hell
you're paying for all that shit
that's under the hood of those cars
by doing tune-ups
and selling groceries.
Now, whatever it is you're in on,
I went in on it, too.
All right, well, we gotta got to get you in a car
and get you to race war
so I can start making some money off of you.
Eat your shrimp.
Is that what he says?
It's kind of close, right?
He takes the thing out,
a piece of paper, he slides it.
He's like, what's this?
It's directions to race wars.
And then he takes a big bite out of the shrimp.
He was great.
All right, dude.
Mine is more of a story.
It's from Gandhi.
Sorry.
Yeah.
A mom comes to Gandhi with her son and she goes,
sir, my son eats too much sugar.
It is not good for his health.
Would you please advise him to stop eating it?
Gandhi listens carefully, turns to her and speaks to the son.
Go home and come back in two weeks.
The woman looks perplexed.
Two weeks later, she returned boy in hand.
Gandhi motioned for them to come forward.
He looked directly at the boy and said, boy, you eating sugar it is not good for your health the boy nodded and promised he would not
continue the habit the boy's mother turned to gandhi and asked why didn't you tell him that
two weeks ago when i brought him here to see you gandhi smiled mother two weeks ago i was still
eating sugar myself nice gandhi yeah beast
yeah I heard
Cory Booker
kept quoting him
on Ezra Klein
right before he
dropped out
now me and the
mad scientist
gotta rip apart
the block
and replace the
piston rings
you fried
it's so good
ask any racer
ask any real racer
it don't matter
if you win by
an inch or a mile.
Winning's winning.
Dude, I love the extras in the back.
So 90s, dude, with these huge shades.
Oh, no. Yeah.
Hey, how you stand by your car.
That's how you drive it.
Oh.
But Paul handles it all so chill.
You gotta come at it with a smile.
Yeah, dude, it's water off a duck's back, dude.
Yeah, he's laughing at it.
He's laughing.
He disarmed Toretto like that.
Beautiful.
What are you smiling about?
Dude, I almost had you.
Almost had me?
You never had me.
You never had your car.
The best.
Chad, what's your phrase of the week for getting after it?
Let's rip apart the engine block.
Nice, dude.
What's yours?
Gandhi.
Honor your incarnation.
Nice.
Yeah.
Emma, anything you want to throw down in the quotes department?
No, I don't have any quotes off the top of my head at the moment.
That's what's up.
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