Going Deep with Chad and JT - Ep 134 - Anders Holm Joins

Episode Date: June 8, 2020

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Good to go. All right. Got the green light. What's up, guys? This is Chad Kroger coming in with the Going Deep with Chad and JT podcast. Guys, before we begin, I want to remind you once again that we are brought to you by manscape manscape. Thank you so much for keeping our trims pubed for looking after our hogs

for making sure that our dongs are looking fresh and clean. Cause when you roll up to a neighborhood and you see a freshly cut lawn, what do you think that guy trims his pubes? So that's what we want for you guys so use code go deep 20 at manscape.com go deep 20 and we got our guests or first i got my compadre john thomas what up boom clap stokers what up chad we got our guest anders home from uh workaholics the legend what is happening i was gonna be here first question do you manscape yeah uh i let it ride and then i i like have to deal with it you know what i mean um i don't i don't i'm not a regular trimmer i think it's kind of fun to just let it rip and see how like wide your pubic area can get not how like full

like what's the like is it like an american football field or a canadian football field uh canadian is wider correct yeah for sure then i'm a more of an american oh nice narrow patch that's what's up yeah and then like after a while i go you know what man hey let's just do this we'll do we do this every six weeks two months yeah something like that i got a designated uh trimmer so that's oh nice i'm real i'm like legit about it i like your method it's sort of like your uh you know you grow it out to see your potential and then prom comes up and you gotta get clean cut you know what i mean yeah you know you grow it out to see your potential and then prom comes up and you got to get clean cut you know what i mean yeah you know just see what it's like living that match life and then uh get get all futuristic with it down there i love it dude good verbiage dude nice

where'd you grow up evanston illinois outside chicago is. Is there good lingo there? Yeah. Yeah. It's... Yeah, for sure. We had some good shit. The one that sparks right off the top of my head is when we were in high school,

there was a guy running for office named Dick Durbin. So, like, if you got a blow job it was called getting burbed nice uh which is like hyper specific to like the chicagoland area i'm not sure really anybody else did that um you know and then just kind of the run the mill shit too but that was one that was very specific the hours and then the chop uh if you saw that on workaholics we're like if you do something stupid that's a chop on the back of your neck that was something we did um at our high school middle school and then there was a whole fucking like rules but like the teenage rules to it, you know,

where it's like you chop and you can do a comeback. You can do 10 for contact. You can do a chop, scruff, and a muff, which is like a whole other thing. But yeah, it's crazy how kids just will like come up with these worlds. We did conning where you would say something stupid, baiting somebody else to correct you.

And then when they corrected you, you went, conned you, and you would act like you, baiting somebody else to correct you. And then when they corrected you, you went, conned you. And you would act like you were taking a picture of them to commemorate their stupidity. Right, right. And then my buddy Ross came up with it. And then the football coaches pretended that they made it up and talked to the newspaper about it. And the newspaper reported on the coaches that it was their joke. But the coaches probably knowingly stole that from a fucking bunch of 16 year old geniuses right that's brutal by the way the coaches were probably like

25 that's true too now you kind of like see where they're coming from you're like all right they were just like young dudes trying to have some fun too yeah they were my boys that's true yeah i didn't even play football so that was all just on the peripheral watching this happen and actually i didn't even go to that school anymore so it's even like this is a weird story that's no longer yours yeah i have a real personal stake and that i should clarify we also said uh like in the lunch room if you were getting up obviously someone could just snake your seat right um so you would have to say save save and then it was yours uh and if you got up and didn't say save save someone could call dirties and then when you came back they'd be like sorry man i called dirties and you're like

all right fine that's the that's the rule of law you gotta respect it but i do still say dirty sometimes i'm 39 years old you look great yeah thank you i think you gotta keep the lingo too I think that keeps you young it keeps you young until it immediately makes you super old right uh like my dad uh who weirdly went to my same high school um at the same time yeah so it was like a science experiment gone wrong we're turning into a movie it's underneath this blanket i can't tell you um but like he adopted dope immediately oh hilarious and he was probably you know like late 50s but he was like i mean that the car i saw the other day was just dope and like now he's 77 and he still drops dope he still says the bomb uh and it fucking works you know i'm not saying the bomb anymore when my dad says it he's like and the sandwich was the

bomb and i'm like yes dude my dad my dad hangs out with younger people and i heard him say and i went to visit him and i heard him say butthurt the other day wow yeah he was like don't get all butthurt about it I was like how old are you dude yeah yeah it is weird you do like a like a what yeah dad in there yeah but hey man they're just they're trying to do their thing yeah that's it that's a that's a that's a real deal one if he's holding on to that I'm stoked for him yeah it cracked me up do you try to educate your kids on the lingo are you trying to make sure that they have the right the right garbage going right i i speak accordingly you know and then it is kind of funny to see my kid be like dad like check out this like lego catalog you see this can i get this for christmas i'm like

yeah he's like i just it's so sick and i'm like yeah and he says dope he says sick um i always i say off the hook and off the rector scale a lot and he doesn't really he doesn't say off the rector scale he doesn't say off the chain or off the hook, but like, he definitely drops sick. Oh, he says smoked when like you beat somebody in a race. Yeah.

And I say blazed a lot for the same thing. And he said it the other day and I was just like, this is weird. He's like, oh yeah,

he blazed him, dad. I'm like, yes. Do you let him watch rated R movies? No, not yet. What's, I mean, when I was like, yes! Do you let them watch rated R movies? No, not yet. I mean, when I was six, I was like the youngest of three kids.

They kind of were like, well, the oldest kid, my oldest brother, Oli, he got total recall for his birthday. So, like, that's what the kids are all going to watch, you know? I think I'd seen, like, Animal like robocop and predator around seven years old probably great movies amazing movies formative but like super violent yeah rob cop is insane and it's like a satire and i get that now but as a kid i'm just like yeah like people are super evil they'll blow your hands and your dicks off whatever um but i don't let my kids watch r-rated movies yet that's the trick with paul verhoeven movies like because when you watch starship troopers when you're 12 you're just like dude

yeah blowing up bug aliens and like really hot ladies but then you troopers when you're 12 you're just like dude yeah blowing up bug aliens and like really hot ladies but then you get older and you're like whoa is this about fascism right yeah he's he's the man i love that i just said total recall too but yeah he's got some heat and my parents my mom showed me fargo when i was like seven and i was just right i was like i was like they talk funny that's hilarious and i saw the wood chipper part and i was just i was like i was like they talk funny that's hilarious and i saw the wood chipper part and i was like mom what the fuck is going on yeah why are you doing it and like that's a weirdly slow movie too so i can't imagine it was like fun you're just kind of like yeah should i be seeing this yeah i was like i was just trying to kick it on her bed and she's like all right

we're gonna watch sopranos and fargo and i'm like, alright, we're going to watch Sopranos and Fargo. I'm like, alright. I used to watch Beastmaster a ton with my mom. Was that like a long-haired, hot dude? Yes, she thought he was very hot. Mark Singer. I remember him. And I was just like, this is amazing.

The dude controls animals. And what is her name? Tanya. I what is her name like tanya i think maybe her name was tanya in the movie but the actress was also a smoke show that's awesome yeah i mean i think my mom was really into erotic movies like with fengali leads where the guy was like super seductive and i think that had a big influence on me in terms of what i thought it took to get like i didn't think you could be nice because i was those were not the kind of male leads my mom was attracted to she was attracted to like like she always thought kevin spacey was hot which is so weird now yeah yeah that's a complex one did she like she like dudes who would like kiss hard yeah or she like she like, my mom thinks like James Spader

in that, the Black Hat show or whatever it's called, The Blacklist. She thinks he's hot. She thinks he's hot in that because he's like very smart. He controls things.

Right. Well, he's also riding off of being a heartthrob from the 80s. You know what I mean? So. Yeah. He's still on that way.

Yeah. Yeah. That's true. I mean, when in the 80s, he was real good looking. Pretty in pink. You know, it's a sick movie if you've ever seen um fuck is he called bad company i don't i think it's called bad company but it's basically like he plays this kind of dorky guy

who gets a house or an apartment in venice and he's got a ton of money but he can't meet girls and then uh super hot dude uh fuck this is great for a podcast um think about it dude take the time rob low no it was badass it like helps him out of a situation in a bar and then befriends him and then kind of like walks him down this path of like getting girls and like being the man. And then when it gets too crazy and he's got to kind of like cut him off as a friend, Rob Lowe like pulls one string and his life falls apart type thing. Oh, nice. Yeah, it's rad.

It's a good, good movie. The 80s were the best with those kind of movies. Yeah. Like trusting the wrong person and then they kind of just like inordinately fuck up your life yeah that's a good genre like single white female body heat you ever see that oh dude the lawrence casman movie yeah everyone's sweating their asses off and i mean i feel like your mom would have that one on for sure yeah yeah mickey rourke in that movie was definitely her speed wait no not it's mickey it's not mickey rourke in that movie was definitely her speed. Wait, no, not Mickey. It's not Mickey Rourke. It's a William hurts.

Yeah. But Mickey works is a arsonist buddy. Is he? Holy shit. He has like a small part of it and doesn't look like, you're right. He like goes to him and is like, well,

if you want to do, yeah, yeah, yeah. He does the classic Mickey Mork, like mumble, but it's like very compelling. Yeah.

It's like, blah, blah, blah, blah. And watching that recently when William hurt, he's like, he shows up at her house and she's like, nah, it's like and watching that recently when william hurt he's like he shows up at her house and she's like nah it's not gonna happen but he's like but the tension is there and then he just throws a chair through the fucking window and is like we're fucking

this does not fly what is happening yeah but you know you know, pulse is racing. It's going down. Do you ever see that Ray Liotta movie with Kurt Russell where it's like, he's like, Ray Liotta is a bad cop and Kurt Russell like has like a home invasion and his, him and his wife gets scared and then Ray Liotta gets obsessed with his wife and like thinks Kurt Russell's like too much of a puss for her. Fuck.

What is that called? I forget. I don't know, but you're saying Ray Liotta, you're saying kurt russell these are all the right things yeah those are my kind of movies they really fucked up my head but i really enjoyed them yeah yeah what uh what were those the james spader movie is bad influence by the way bad influence oh thank you aaron thank you 1990 aaron coming in like god yeah yeah right up with the fire who were your big

influences who are your favorite directors growing up um you know what's funny like really young um you know like john landis movies harold ramis movies all the ones that didn't seem like they had like such a stamp on them. But then you go back and watch it now and you're like, that's such a Harold Ramis movie or such a John Landis movie. Frank Oz movies. I fucking love Frank Oz movies like House Sitter. You guys ever see a house there with Goldie Hawn? No.

And Steve Martin. It's just like Steve Martin meets Goldie Hawn, gives her his address and he's like I built this house and like my relationship is falling apart now she doesn't want to move in with me and then Goldie Hawn like squats in the house and starts meeting all the people in the small town saying that she's like his new wife and then Steve Martin shows up and his parents are like, we just met your wife. Like what's going on?

But then he has to like play along with it. It's fucking great. Oh, you're giving me a lot of good movie recs, bro. I got to check all this shit out. Check out house sitter. It's just like a fun light.

And like, it really rides on how amazing Goldie Hawn is as just like a human. Like she's just super watchable. Death Becomes Her? Yeah. That movie's fucking sick. That movie's amazing. That's a Zemeckis movie who did all the Back to the Futures. Oh, cool.

Is 80s kind of your preferred decade? Well, this movie's 90s. Oh, shit. My bad. I mean, like, I was born in 81, and I did all my movie damage super early on. And then, like, there was all sorts of dope shit in the 90s. But, like, I feel like the 80s took those swings, and then the 90s was like, well, this is the new and improved version of whatever movie you know um but yeah other influences like all the fucking like bill

murray shit just yeah i dove in on that um i'm gonna get you sucka was like a mind blower that's like uh keenan ivan wayans first movie with like his brother's a sister and then like it's a spoof on blaxploitation movies yeah and it is a joke every second in like the airplane style of you know naked gun type type jokes um and it's it just blows your mind when you're watching it you're like how is a movie this funny it worked for me as like an action movie when i was a kid too like when i saw it as a kid i was just like this is a cool movie yeah because the sound i think a lot of the comedy went over my head oh nice yeah the soundtrack hits the krs1 song comes on like you're like all right jack

of spades this dude seems fucking cool yeah did you were you watching movies and as a kid were you always interested in entertainment like you're like this is what i want to do or did that come sort of later on um i mean in addition to like just watching a ton of tv and like kind of being raised by TV and like SNL. Like when I was super young, it was like Phil Hartman and Mike Myers. And then like the David Spade, Chris Farley era came after that. You know what I mean? And like, I feel like that era was like the most juvenile that's ever happened in the history of snl so like it just connects to 12 year olds watching it yeah um

and so i dug snl i was like how do people do this like what is that job um and then my oldest brother was into theater and he did this like comedy show at our high school that was basically, it was written by the kids, directed by the kids, acted by the kids. Um, and it was like a comedy show, you know? And I went and saw that and I was like, Holy shit, these dudes are funnier than SNL. Again, super young, not everything connected for me. I didn't know songs were covers of the Beatles where they just changed the words because my parents didn't really play

music for us growing up. But I was just like, this is the shit. And then when I got to high school or eighth grade that that summer you had to like audition for the fall and like start rehearsing like before school even started um if you were like a freshman obviously so i auditioned for that and i was like my other brother played soccer my oldest brother did the the comedy show so i was like well if i get in the comedy show. So I was like, well, if I get in the comedy show, I'll do that. If I don't want to play soccer. Um, and then I got into the comedy show and did that. So like, that was my first taste of entertaining people, you know, besides like bullshit with your friends and like, um, me and my homie had like a talk boy and we would do like,

Um, me and my homie had like a talk boy and we would do like, um, fake Phil Donahue shows or like fake, uh, what was it? His name? Um, like Jenny Jones. We would do like fake Jenny Jones episodes. Huh? Geraldo Rivera. Yeah. Like Geraldo, all that, all those like crazy talk shows that would just have like insane guests on.

And then I, so I did that, but then I quit my senior year to focus on swimming so I could get into a goddamn college. And then I never really did it again until I decided to start writing stuff in college. Right. Did you swim D1 at Wisconsinisconsin yeah dude yeah oh yeah all that movie knowledge damn bro it will do i mean look man when you're not in the pool you're just watching movies and we're not watching movies you're just in the pool looking at the bottom of the line dude i was a swimmer in high school what was your event? I did sprint freestyle. Sprint freestyle, butterfly 100. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. I can see that. You seem like you have nice lats for the fly. The lats are still there. Damn, dude. I could tell. It's hard to get back in the pool, though, man. It's tough.

I try sometimes. Yeah. Yeah, dude, college athletes are hard on themselves like i have friends who used to play volleyball we go down to the beach and they hate themselves for not being able to like spike as hard and they're like i don't even want to play and i'm like they have a high standard for themselves and i think once they dip below it the it's it's too hard to play casually it's tough my dad was a college athlete. He played football, but like, and he was like the shit at his, he played D3, but he was like, he's in like the hall of fame for his D3 school, right? For football and golf. And he would always like take us out there and be like, you see this fucking plaque, check it out. I'm like, all right, cool, dude. D3. D3.

But like, I had never seen him like run in his life and I think it's because of that whole thing where it's like, I can't really like do it like I used to do it. I'm just not going to. But

I try and maintain some shit. Like I started running. I was doing like CrossFit for a little bit, but it turned me into this weird fucking monster the traps the traps got too big yeah i got just fucking mad traps um yeah i can't lift too heavy because i get too swole i remember dude my brothers are like they're like you need to do olympic lifts daily and i'm like dude i i gotta be on camera like i can't be a fucking

nugget no and by the way like i didn't get like cut up i just got like swole like just yeah that yeah you get blocky yeah i looked like it's not good looks like throws rocks yeah chad you asked me you're like am i too bulky and i was like yeah. I was shy to tell you, but I had to let it rip. I was just doing sprints. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I found is rowing. Oh, yeah.

Rowing is my shit. I got a new rower at the house now. It works, man. I'm all about that shit. Yeah. I got an assault bike, which is similar for the Q team. So I'm just on the balcony just, you know, and then people are walking by and they're just watching me.

Yeah, that's brutal. I don't know. I try and get back in the pool too. I go to the Rose Bowl. It has a nice aquatic center and I go there. Oh, cool, cool. And fuck around with like the master's team. It's all these old dogs uh or

like kids fresh out of college who like have their like school tattooed on their back and shit or you'll catch somebody with like olympic rings on their arm and you're like yeah all right here we go man what are we up to what are we doing yeah i love i love the sport i know people who like haven't gotten in the water since which just seems tragic to me yeah i i love the sport. I know people who haven't gotten in the water since, which just seems tragic to me. Yeah, I love the discipline. I wasn't very good. I'm too short, I think. I have short legs.

And my coach, I think he thought I was lazy, so he made me do the 500 free. I think just to punish me. He didn't like me. Coach Donnelly, if you're listening, you can suck it. Whoa! Yeah, dude. Sorry, dude. I think just to punish me. Right. He didn't like me. Coach Donnelly, if you're listening, you can suck it. Whoa. Yeah, dude. Sorry, dude.

That was your squad, though. I don't even want to do this. What's up? Was your squad good? Honestly, nah. I hung out with the hockey players. Where's this prep school? In Connecticut.

Uh-huh. Yeah. Who was the, like? I like California, so I was just just what's up was there was there like a specific good school out there for swimming uh greenwich high yeah that's not a prep school but they were like we would play them in water polo and they would always just dominate us yeah and it was sort of like you'd go into the game you're like i know i'm gonna get you know tossed here but right this is just to

learn right yeah i played water polo for a season in high school yeah and i just couldn't keep my cool yeah i don't i don't know how to like i don't know how people play contact sports and then just don't lose it and not because like people be grabbing on me and I would just be like, I'm dunking, I'm holding, they'd be like, foul! I'm like, well, what are we doing here? And now like, later in life I go, oh, contact sports are about getting away with as much as you can and not getting caught.

That's the whole thing. And I didn't understand that. And there's honor in being able to measure the abuse properly. You know, like there's guys who hit hard but they're not sadists and you have deep admiration for those people yeah right yeah i would do the uh grab the speedo you know pull them back do you ever do that move yeah i mean that's that's what it is so that's the move i remember i did that i did that to this kid i pulled him back he's's like, oh!

And then I scored my only goal that season. All I tried to do was score with the backhand. Oh, yeah. That's a nice move. You know what I mean? I was like, you could do this all day. But if you were the guy who's just bobbing it, and then you go behind your back, it was fucking sick but i was i was no good i always

enjoyed in workaholics when you do the the lat like snap oh yeah i'm trying to teach my kids that they don't have enough meat on the bones yet but yeah it's a good homage to swimming i mean it's it was a real thing i remember from being like a young buck on the deck and seeing older dudes doing it and just being like, is that guy the coolest dude in the world? Yeah, dude. Just based on the fluidity of slapping his arm

against his body and I was like, this dude is a G. Yeah. I have to be him. Yeah, you want to explain it? You obviously have no shirt on because you like yeah you can explain it it's like you obviously have no shirt on because you're in a speedo and shit but you you slap your arm so your bicep is loose and it hits your lat and you go and it claps right before race is just like super casually like and you're just like all right this dude's probably

pretty fast that's sick yeah i do love the like idiosyncrasies of like specific sports things like the fact that swimmers can do that or like the taping job on like boxers or like the specific like basketball players fingers are all just gnarled because it's been dislocated so many times from like catching passes. Weird. I love that shit. Yeah. A couple of my friends in football,

like when a guy could throw the ball against the ground and have it bounce back up into his hand, like the guys who had good ball skills could do that. And then I, it's a random sport, but I try to get into horse riding for a while and a lot of those dudes are missing fingers because when they catch the calf like when they're when they're roping they catch the calf and then they go to tie the rope around the bullhorn

of the saddle their fingers get stuck in there and then when the calf yanks on it it jacks their fingers off yeah like when you meet a bunch of those guys you shake their hands and they're all missing like their two principal digits and you're just like oh man which kind of you know they know they all but you know he's for real yeah yeah you're like okay hockey dudes with their teeth back in the day like yeah they just didn't give a fuck they're like i play hockey you just don't have teeth yeah yeah you see them they used to not play with helmets. By the way, the goalie used to not have helmets before. It's just crazy. Yeah. Fucking insane.

Yeah, the difference in the pad size of the goalie too. He used to only take up like 20% of the space. And now there's only like six inches of open window to score in. Yeah, what is the fucking deal? That's a good sport though. I've never gotten as into hockey but i do respect it a lot but it's just uh it's so much fun you gotta go to like a king's game i've been to a couple but yeah i gotta go to more i just like why that's the shit on on, it's a little hard. Even though that announcer's out of his mind, he's just like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, like calling the game like crazy.

It's still kind of hard to be like, you just can't tell how fast they're moving, you know, on TV. Yeah, they're doing like 20. When did you move to LA? 03, end of 03. Was that right after college? Yeah, after summer school school i had to take like two classes to graduate or like they let me walk and then um i had to take two classes to like

check some boxes and then fucking packed up the minivan drove out um like, two bad screenplayers and a fucking dream. Yeah. I bet you're able to use that discipline from swimming and apply it. Because in L.A., it seems like so many people, they come out to, like, achieve something, but there's not a lot of follow-through. But it seems like you guys really had a vision and pulled it out yeah i mean obviously meeting the dudes was a game changer um but when i moved out uh i didn't know shit like i just i didn't know anybody like in the business um i went on like craigslist looking for jobs and shit. I actually worked retail at Lacoste on Rodeo Drive for a few months,

which was sick. Solid. Hella free gear. And then like was going to Craigslist looking for jobs. And like, I think I got my first internship off of something called entertainment careers.net. Yeah.

I don't know if it exists anymore. I don't even know if it was like a legit thing at the time. But the thing, I don't know if it was like discipline. I also coached some swimming out here too. But it was like, I had all this fucking time now, you know, and I had all this fucking energy and I needed, I had this void of like the thing that mattered in my life is gone it's over like i'm not going to the fucking olympics and

i needed something and i filled that with writing movies and like writing and watching movies and like thinking about how to make them. And you earlier were like, Oh, like, who are you like your directorial influences and somebody who like really changed the gears for me was Wes Anderson. Like I'd seen bottle rocket in theaters when I was young, but I was like, I don don't know it just seemed fucking cool i remember watching the trailer and he's like ain't no trip to cleveland i'm like this guy seems rad uh when saw it but then when i saw rushmore which was way more stylized i was like

why is this so different like what what why does this feel different than any other movie? And then you go, oh, like Wes Anderson, this dude. And like the auteur era came in and like Paul Thomas Anderson, Tarantino kind of already doing his thing. But like you had that nineties era of like auteurs and Spike Jones and like

David Fincher and all those guys. A hundred percent. And I was just like oh this dude was like 29 or some shit when he made uh rushmore 26 when he made bottle rocket like he was a like a legit movie by 26. Nice. Yeah. Which is like insane. And I didn't hit the mark,

but I had some nibbles and like some gigs. Like by the time I was 26 and I was like, something's happening. And then met the dudes out here in like 05 or like late 04 how'd you guys meet i met adam at second city la which is like where nobody yeah was ucb was ucb and groundlings already better at that point than Second City? UCB didn't exist out in LA yet. Right. But Groundlings was like the show.

Groundlings was where you went if you were like for real and serious because Will Ferrell, Sherry O'Terry, like that era of SNL had just come from there. But I wasn't even gonna do acting, but i had some friends who were like well you're funny why don't you go do second city which is like we had that back in chicago and i was like all right yeah i know what that is i'll go try that out to like meet people in the business because none of my friends were in the business they were doing like fashion and shit um and then that's when i met adam and he had

he was driving up from occ uh where he was going to orange coast college that's right dude go pirates dude i went to saddleback rival school rival junior college all right yeah all right ease up um and so adam met blake and kyle who grew up together at OCC. And then I was like, yo, I'm a writer. I'll write you some stuff. Adam was like,

I do stand up. I want to be an actor and a fucking movie star. And I'm like, you seem like you're going to be one. Let's start doing some stuff together. So we, I would write some stuff and then we would try and go out and pitch it. And like,

and we just started shooting sketches and YouTube came out. I mean, this sounds like the fucking crazy shit now, but like we were doing this before YouTube. And then when YouTube came out, we were like, Oh, we're not doing live shows really anymore.

Let's just film it, put it up, email it to our friends. And then whoever the fuck else wants to watch it can watch it um and we didn't go viral but like we were getting thousands of hits you know yeah i i love uh i've watched some mail order comedy like uh i love the the more dudes the beer the beer oh yeah yeah bring on was bring on the dudes yeah uh yeah that stuff it's so funny i you guys sort of created that that or you sort of spearheaded that model of like put stuff out there and that's sort of how you you you carve your spot in the industry or or get a

show yeah i mean old way we we were like we were doers like you're saying as far as like work ethic i'd met some people who were like yeah i'm a writer i got this idea i just wanted to get it down on paper and i'm like yeah fuck off that's not real yeah um or you have actors who are like i don't want an agent're like, okay, what the fuck are you talking about? Um, and then people who I knew would just like party all the time constantly. And I'm at home like writing shit. And then they'd be like, dude, last night I was at XYZ director's house fucking doing shots with them. Like I'm going to go pitch to him on Monday. And I'm like, you know,

like, fuck, I don't have money to go out like this like I can't be partying but like this dude he doesn't even have a screenplay yet he hasn't written anything but he's gonna go pitch it to this real director like am I fucking up should I be partying more yeah but like me and the dudes would meet on like Tuesdays

and pitch ideas Thursdays we would and then on the Tuesday we'd like pick the one we like Thursdays we would like have a script that somebody wrote or I would write somebody's idea and then they would go

not that but this and we would punch it up and make it into something like super dope for the time dope enough and then we would film it on the weekend and we would just do that every fucking week yeah uh for years um never went viral you know and we would see other groups go viral and be like fuck should we do something more topical yeah we do um you know like our homies at derrick comedy uh would crush it with like bro rape.

Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. Fuck. They did it. But then Donald Durkey's wrote on Workaholics later. And we'd always be like, we just wanted to be you, man. Just wanted to be you. Yeah.

Yeah. But that was fun i mean it was like the those are like the fun lean years where like i was at one point when we were doing stuff i was a um an assistant like a production assistant in the writer's office of real time with bill maher uh and on the weekend i would have the dudes i'd get them like drive-ons to come on the lot. And we would just jam in the like production trailer and like print stuff out, like eat snacks out of the refrigerator. And just get that like taste for, oh, we're like in a real trailer, like on a lot, like making shit up. And it was cool dude like those dudes as soon as i met adam i knew he was

for real like he wanted this um and blake and kyle were the same way and also brought like a cool different energy and when we were all together even though like they are young three years younger than me like in school or whatever um and also just kind of vibe different than me we they were like oh but i like what you bring and i was like well i love what you guys bring and it works you know yeah it seems almost like magical how sometimes a squad can form like that and have such great chemistry just naturally you know sometimes like like with us we don't we need like we have like strider joe um and yeah joe's right behind me in the kitchen yeah and even with like even with like jt i think we we just like we just gelled

you know and then people are like you guys have great chemistry and we're like oh cool like we just gelled you know and then people like you guys have great chemistry and we're like oh cool like that's awesome doing a beer bong at a party when this dude yeah a four hose beer bong and one guy couldn't do it because he was on antibiotics yeah what are your hometowns i'm a san juan capistrano and now my mom lives in san clemente yeah nice dude coming from the Midwest and hearing these like names of places is just like magic. Yeah. Capistrano. It's like, like, it's so like the idea of California and my brother went to UCLA, but he's a fucking trailblazer. He's just a G. but like hearing about California from like Chicago, it was just like this other world. This was like before the internet was popping off and everybody wore fucking

pants across the world. You know what I mean? Like it was just an idea. And I remember a friend of mine came back from, I don't know where he was, but he was in California and he came back with an in andN-Out t-shirt and was like, this is a place in California called In-N-Out and they have the greatest fucking cheeseburgers you've ever had in your life. And like the back of it was like the trees with like the 57 Chevy or whatever.

And I was like, I'm never going to have that cheeseburger. Like it's too far. Yeah. Oh, dude. That's the saddest thing I've ever heard. And I've had it. What do you think? Some people say it's overrated when they come from out of state.

I'll keep it real as fuck right now. I think it's a very good burger. But like... Shake Shack? Dude, don't do this. It kind of did it. No, dude. It's a hard position this honors no dude no dude oh dude also five guys dude no dude i i can't i can't let you slide on that one dude dude our logo we sold in and out logo aaron's coming in our our dog he loved he hates in and hates In-N-Out. He's on your team. You know what I will say?

When people say, how do you feel about the fries, Aaron? No, dude, don't ask that question, dude. No, dude. Aaron, we can't hear you. We can't hear you, Aaron. Sorry, absolute trash. Oh, dude. Oh, dude.

Aaron, no. Dude, he just ate the fries. I enjoy the fries. The first time I had the fries, I was like, because they like crumble in your mouth a little bit. And I was like, what happened to the, but now I'm like, all right, they're cool. If you get them well done, ask for them like well done. Yeah.

A little crisp. But like, just like, i don't want to have to fucking do that right how about you just make them the crisp way and now nobody has to go why are they falling apart my mouth what but this is so what's your go-to or who's does anybody have like a super specific burger order uh yeah yeah do you to go first no you i mean dude you i followed your path on this you blazed the trail so hit him with it uh dude i just forgot the name of them what are they called flying dutchman oh dude my bad my bad uh i brain farted sometimes but look at him dude he's never even heard of it yeah is this where it's done on bun no no not even that

or like this is bun the bottom bun now think of it like this way this is a cheese a grilled cheese but the bread is two meat patties so you have a meat patty meat patty with two slices of cheese in between and that's it and then you get some of that sauce on there and that's a that's a that's a lean meal. No bread is lean. Because we're trying to stay lean. We're trying to look cut. Wow. You get it. Do you got – and so – because I go, like, double-double raw onions. I'm big on the onions.

Chopped chilies. Oh. Wow. No tomatoes. And then, like, the animal sauce or whatever. To me, that's animal style. That's an on-the-day thing where I go... How are you feeling?

Make it animal style. Nice, dude. I like a burger that crunches when you bite into it with the lettuce and the onions. I think the thing about the In-N-Out Burger burger too, it's the way it fits into your mouth. It's like form-fitted to your... It's like a Tempur-Pedic burger for your mouth. It just slides in there kind of nice. And I think that's a good experience.

Can't disagree. Oh, thank you, dude. I appreciate that. Yeah, we ride hard. You're not wrong. Thank you. It's getting more competitive is all. I hear you.

Competition is good, dude. I think those other burger joints, I mean, I don't see In-N-Out ever really – because part of what makes them so special is that they don't change what they do. It's like the Steelers with, like, the 3-4 defense or something like that. This is just how we do it. Did you guys get a pair of those shoes they dropped? No. Oh, they're like Vans, right?

They look like Vans with, like like the cup design on them uh yeah i gotta i gotta cop one of those i don't understand how like you guys weren't gifted those yeah we we stole their logo for our podcast homage yeah we paid homage yeah they should hook you guys the fuck up because the shoes are sick. Dude, what was it like? Did you get to meet a lot of luminaries on Bill Maher as a PA? Were you ever getting coffee for Salman Rushdie or something like that? Yeah, for sure, him. And then who else would come on?

I mean, mostly like- Sean Penn? Did you ever have a good conversation? Sean Penn would go on there and get fired up dude yeah you would never like you could never really talk with people unless they started in with you right of course right like yeah i remember walking alec baldwin in and just fucking like zipped and then he was like do you talk and I'm like, yeah, like what's up, you know? and Who the fuck else? I just remember seeing Ben Affleck and being like pretty tall guy tall six four. Yeah I remember that episode

He said George Bush was like a lion and we keep feeding him red meat. That was a good take he had he said I mean, he's he's an interesting dude I think. I think he's at least got some good ideas in his brain. but yeah it's funny to like I was a fan of the show and I would just email their like production department over and over trying to get a job there. I think after like a year they were like over trying to get a job there i think after like a year they were like actually we are hiring come on by and i went in and was like please um what a testament to persistence that's awesome man yeah like i mean you know when you're like fucking scrapping and clawing and like i have my wife was my girlfriend at the time and she's like

making way more money than me and was like, how long are we here? Why are we doing this? You know what I mean? And I'm like, just fucking please just let's keep kicking it and we'll make it happen. Um, but yeah, just, uh, by any means necessary. Uh, and then you, uh, did you ever smoke weed with Bill? Not, I think I smoked weed with him years later when I was at a premiere of a Seth Rogen movie that he was in. And I was like, hey, and he was like, I interned for you or PA'd for you.

And he was like, yes, of course, You're the one who got the show and stuff. He doesn't fucking remember me, but knows that somebody went on to do a show. There was a good circle of people. He had to smoke weed with me. I made him. But no, on the show, I was the cleanup. Like after the show was in the green room, everyone would party and have fun.

As far as like the guests and whatnot and friends of the guests. And then like, he would peace out. Would other pubs get along with the Democrats after the show when they were partying? They would be kicking it. They'd be kicking it. Oh,

that's interesting. I mean, I think there would always be like maybe somebody maybe somebody who got heated who was like, I'm not going to fucking talk to that person after the show. But, like, a lot of these pundits, like, they're on shows all the time so much that, like, some of them are, they're cool with, I mean, they're fine. You know what I mean?

They disagree, but they're like, what am I going to do? Like, take this off the air, too? Like, and constantly be, I don't know. Did you meet Christopher Hitchens? I love that guy. I mean, I was there when he was there. Yeah, he was the man. He's just fucking swagger.

Yeah, right. Swagger. He took it to Mos Def on that one episode. I know. That was so tough because I'm like the biggest Mos Def fan. I love Mos Def. Black on the side is like the greatest album of all time maybe and when he was like Mr. Definitely can I call you that I was like

there's no coming back from this especially when most deaths talking about like he was kind of like in over his head like there was some of the stuff was conspiracy theory but like you know you think you want to give him the benefit of the doubt and then when he's like how do you know these people like in Iraq are saying this and he's like I was there I went there I talked to people I'm not like just some guy who talks about it like I'm a world traveler I go there my life my life's work is to understand these things and then come here and tell the story. Yeah. He was like, how is it

fair to have nuclear disarmament there? And he's like, because of the Treaty of 2004 in Kurdistan. And then you're like, oh, dude. It's like, all right. Yeah. For sure. That was hard to watch, though. But Cornel West helped out most of us. That was good. I know. I love him him he had something nice to say the other day he's just always

poignant he's just always like a guy and like he's the man up it's eight o'clock my family is cheering for all the essential workers because that's oh awesome let's do it we'll help out let's go baby let's go i'm gonna open my door hey let's do it we'll help out dude let's go baby let's go i'm gonna open my door hey let's keep it going baby i love it this is gonna be somebody's like 7 a.m podcast listening like what's going on yeah this isn't live okay just for you how are you keeping your head on straight during like, I mean, now we've come through all this chaos with coronavirus and now all this civil unrest and societal anger. I mean, like, look, as far as keeping my head on straight,

like I like that that's how you put it. Cause like my head is staying straight. Like I'm not confused about anything. Like everything going down. What's up young man. I'm on a podcast. FaceTime. Let me, let me talk to you later. Okay. All right. Later. We closed the door behind you. Okay. Yeah. Okay. We'll close the door. Thanks, guys has been oddly dope. That's one of the benefits. I'm around my kids way more.

Teaching math, which I feel bad for the kid, but it's cool that we get to do that. I would have not done that as much. And then as far as all this stuff going down, like the biggest heartbreaker for me is finding out how many dumb asses, uh, love workaholics and are fans of me and the dudes and don't understand the idea that black lives matter and like how it doesn't take anything away from them to say black lives matter and to think black lives matter you know it's like if there's a fire in california you don't need to go there's hurricanes in florida it's like there's still

fires in california and if you can't like acknowledge what's going on for somebody that sucks and like it's just a selfish thing that drives me crazy when people are like, what about me? My life's tough. It's like, I'm sure your life is tough. Their life is tough. Also, for this very specific reason, and for you to acknowledge it would be huge, you know, and then, but they don't want to do that. It's tough, man. And I'm not somebody who's fucking,

I'm not going to go around teaching everybody, you know, but I was saying this earlier before we got on, like I'm not going to tell anybody to unfollow me because then the discourse is over. Like they don't know what I'm about. But if you stay following me, you can unfollow me by the way, go for it. But if you stay following me, you'll see what I'm about. But if you stay following me, you can unfollow me by the way, go for it. But if you stay following me, you'll see what I'm about.

And if you think you want to party with me and like be my friend, then this is how you need to think. This is how you need to behave. You know? Right. That's it, man. It is fucking crazy.

Yeah. Just, I don't know. People who are, will send me stuff about how the rioters are out of control, but never send me anything about when there's these abuses happening against black people. It just feels like

they're just not seeing both sides. But I don't know. It's wild, man. I'm teaching my kids all about this. I mean, he's six and it's never too early to be like this what's happening out there and then you know and be like wow that's crazy like why is that that's so unfair like and you go exactly you know um my wife works in like human rights for an ngo

so she's she's on the line every day oh wow yeah wow. Yeah, what does she do exactly? She works for CARE. Oh, cool. It's a huge humanitarian organization, mostly international, but they're starting to build things here in the U.S. now. And, yeah, she's been there for a few years, but she's always done this kind of work, mostly with, like, women's rights and that kind of thing,

and now just more broadly with care. Care packages comes from this place. Back in the day, they said care packages during World War II. I don't know. But, yeah, now they're just like a global superpower of health. Nice. That's awesome. Yeah, she's awesome.

You know what's fun too? I think when I grew up, I kind of hated it when artists talked about politics. I'd always be like, can't you just stick to your art? But then now that I'm kind of in that walk of life, I'm like, you do feel a responsibility to to speak on it like yeah i mean look i am a i'm a fucking idiot like i'm not a smart dude i never was i like some concepts just never understood in school all this stuff like when i'm putting together like the one tweet I was going to send out, I'm like, does this even fucking make sense?

Am I the guy that should be articulating this to like other dumb people like me who I think are on the wrong side of this discussion? Or like, are they just going to eat me for breakfast and be like, Hey, dumb ass.ass like and then i'm not helping anybody um but the the thing i come to terms with is like i'm gonna say what i would say if i wasn't in this position or not um right which is just how i feel and there are more articulate smart people that uh make better statements than me that are famous and my friends from back home will just blast off this tweet about like and you're like

whoa dude can i like copy and paste that shit yeah yeah but i'm not george clooney and thank god thank god we have somebody like a georgeoney or, you know, whoever else who like really understands the scope of things like this. You know, I'm not that guy, but I know wrong and I see it. I had a question about workaholics with the writing. Did you guys have like, do you guys have a list of things from your party lives or that happened in college and stuff that you're like, we've got to put this in the show?

Like Poop Dollar and stuff like that? So yeah, Poop Dollar was one thing that Adam's friends did in high school. The Chop was something that happened at my high school. And yeah, there were just like, I'm, I love, I mean, as you guys can hear, I, I don't shut up, but like in a writer's room, I love like talking and getting people to talk about like their high school experience or like whatever, like dating experience, dating life. Tell me about your bad date. Tell me about your best date. Like where can we mine um stuff from your life that's super specific and then put it in an episode

and then kind of window dress it to like fit in or maybe amp it up a little bit to make it more exciting but but grounded in the reality that you lived, you know? And yeah, people would always kind of bring their, their stories from back home. But there wasn't like a, there wasn't like a set board of, we did this, but you would hear great stories of like worst mistakes. One of our writers was like, when we were, I think he was probably 15 he goes we got a paintball gun and we went to an overpass and just started shooting at cars and like it was funny and then like the police came with like guns drawn and they fucking booked it and he slept in the sewer for the night oh shit you know and then like i think maybe that's where

we got the ninja turtles episode where we were like bolting and we were like there's nowhere to go we got to get into the lift up the manhole cover and climb into the fucking sewer and then we were like all right so we're in the sewer like a bunch of fucking ninja turtles all right well if who's what ninja turtle right obviously when you're in the sewer, like a bunch of fucking Ninja Turtles. All right. Well, if who's what Ninja Turtle, right? Obviously when you're that, you start having that breakdown.

And then the writers are like, well, you're Donatello. And I'm like, I'm Leonardo. And they're like, so that's like, that's like your D story for the episode. So yeah,

hopefully, hopefully things were organically built. Sometimes they weren't. Sometimes somebody would come in with a dope idea that was just like, yo, you left a voicemail that you shouldn't have left on Alice's machine. You're super hungover and you need to get to the office

to delete it before she hears it. But you're super hungover so you need to drink in order not to pass out and get there to delete it you know and like obviously that's not someone nobody did that in real life but like yeah as a device for an episode it fucking turned out to be a real real heat rocket well yeah you guys had that. I think it was, I say famous. It was like a famous list of like, I think going into like season five or six where it was like a list of like the things that you guys wouldn't talk about.

Cause they were hack at that point. Yeah. I mean, I, I fuck it. I'm like, did you think that got too much attention? Well, look, I'll say this. i didn't like it or it wasn't leaked one of our writers was like check this out and uh that's fine but like you know don't that's ours do you feel like snobby that that did you did you feel like that was like snobby that that got out there like or something sure mean, if you want to make those fucking bad hacky ass jokes that were solid gold the first time they were said, you know, like I just threw up in my mouth a little bit. The first time I heard that, I was like, that's the funniest thing I've ever heard.

Yeah. Four years later, when you're hearing like ants say it or like fucking whoever you're like, that's not your joke. And when you have comedy writers who are paid professionals, who in my opinion, your job is come up with the new fucking joke, come up with the new throw up in the mouth a little bit. Don't just say nailed it.

That's a fucking commercial you know and weirdly a lot of commercials just hijack shit from people and then they just say it in a commercial and it's like a huge thing but like so you were kind of combating laziness yeah my whole thing was like let's not say these um if there was something we heard that was super common, don't put it in there. I got a whole thing going with my buddy one of the writers now where we just text each other when we come

across one. One recently is cool, cool, cool, cool. Don't do it. It's over. Oh, I say that i know i know but like we all do cool cool cool don't write it down and get paid oh right right no right right yeah for sure right right right right right really you know like really is done um what's one that i said

the other day here uh i know what you mean though when things like that just start getting like passed around and people are like passing it off as witty when they say it and you're like you're not being witty like you're just aping things you've heard that have been like programmed into your head and you're taking in the cadence of wit but that doesn't make it witty and then and you you want to like scream at the world when stuff like that happens you're like no this can't be what people think is funny and look you can you can everyone can write whatever the fuck they want to write this was our show and like when i would read a draft from a writer that had some shit i'd be like can you beat that because that's not even yours right or if someone would say something i would go is that yours like if

someone lit me up with something i go did you make that up is that yours like somebody had um uh they're like oh and then he like ac slater's the toilet right like sitting on the toilet backwards oh that's fine i was like is that yours and they were like, no, I heard that before. And I was like, that's fucking good. I wish that was yours. You were disappointed. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, like one, the other day I said to my, I sent to my buddy was, I think we're saying the same thing, which is like, it's just, it's in a lot of stuff now where like people are arguing and they're like, I think we're saying the same thing when they're really not. We got to get down there now. I know, I got a burrito.

I'm saying we need to go now. I think we're saying the same thing. Right. It drives me fucking crazy. Yeah. Is it weird for you when you run into fans and they think you're the character? Well, I mean, I didn't do myself any favors by keeping my name, you know, and like, like Ders, that was my like nickname growing up and stuff.

You know. Do they always just want to get wasted with you, basically? Yeah, it's tough. I mean, like, just doing shots and shots and shots and shots and then like at a certain point you're like i can't i can't do it man like i know you just walked in here and you want to do a shot i can't i'm just like fuck you like you're too good and you're like yeah i don't i know that like our experience just started for you right now but like i'm here do i can't make everybody happy

i don't know what to tell you um yeah you know i'm not trying to get on like getting free shots is awesome yeah and when you do do the shot i'm sure they're like it's got to make their day right yeah i mean my biggest nightmare is getting iced that was something that happened like post my college years and like i don't i'm not into it like so by the way i can't wait for this to come out and everyone will be like i guess we're ice and nerves when we see you having one in their car in case yeah yeah that's i could never join a frat the the drinking that they put you through i'm too specific in how i drink i never could have endured like the forced drinking that was kind of like the norm it would have killed me yeah i don't i uh i think i can

drink a lot i can't drink fast, though. Like, I can't... Like, if I do a shot, it goes into my mouth and then slowly goes down my throat, which is the worst way to drink. Yeah. I can't slam a beer. Like, I just do...

My gag reflex, I don't know what it is, the carbonation, I just can't swallow it. And I just don't like the taste of alcohol. I like fucking milkshakes from In-N-Out. That's what's up. Did ever did you ever feel sort of like uh insecure going to like a bar being like people think i'm this huge party guy but i can't party as hard as they think i can like did you ever have that kind of uh yeah I mean here I guess

yeah but I and like I'm gonna sound like a douchebag but there's also like the part of you that wants to like fulfill their idea so they go dude I saw him we did a shot it was exactly what I hoped it'd be you know what I mean right yeah i guess it's like do you worry that you can't you can't uh how the better to like make that dream come true for them does that make sense yeah i mean now i'm super fucking old yeah like back in the day it was go time yeah it was fun like me and the guys would go on these like fucking tours we'd go to comic-con and like uh it was great you know but we had each other and like in addition to that we had our manager uh who'd be like the guys are fucking done like we'd be like isaac i'm gonna fucking throw up in this bar if you don't get over there and like

tell them like we're too big time because we can can't be like, we're too big time. So you go do it for us. Right. Yeah. We're like the saving grace is a, a bartender who knows what's going on and is like, just order shots of Jaeger and we'll bring you guys Coke and then we'll give them Jaeger. Wow. Nice. What a legend. Thank you. I can't wait for everyone to be like you bitch.

I would have died. I'm not dying for you guys. But yeah, if you can parlay that with a cool bartender, it's a game changer. A server to bring it over and go so this is yours yours and yours and then this is this dude that dude that dude and you go like hey hopefully

we all die tonight yeah yeah um yeah i don't know i'm sure you guys deal with it constantly you're in the you're in the fucking eye of the hurricane right now i guess that's the problem part well we're the party bros so yeah you know it's uh that was we've been we were branded that by other people but uh yeah it is you're not even brothers yeah that's right yeah yeah crazy yeah we're trying to figure out how we can make that happen but it's like science is limited yeah we'll get there yeah we'll get there someday yeah what's the thing you guys hate the most or at least what's what's the thing that comes your way the most that you're like fuck okay all right like jameson shots no it's probably when people come up to me and like say this sounds so like virtuous on my part but like when people come up to me and they say like kind of nasty things and think i'll enjoy it because i'm a party bro like they'll come up to me and they'll be like would

you like i don't even know this you don't come up to me like would you rather fuck a chick's tits or her ass and i'm like bro i just met you dude i'm like is this the kind of energy you're bringing to like strangers i'm like you gotta like um i'm like it's just it's and you know you don't know what to say because you don't want to be like hey dude chill so you're just like no i'm good dude well the fuck the weird thing is like and like uh adam's really good at this like the the jujitsu of taking their energy and moving it you know i mean or like i guess that's yeah like you like they come in they're like tits or ass and you just go neither dude chill that's crazy you know we're like or you meet the energy and you go that's the craziest question i've ever heard

you know and then they yeah he didn't answer it but like he's yelling back at me so something's working and oh that's so smart yeah they had their experience and then judo to the side yeah i think adam did that me when i met adam one one time. You're like, did I get judo? At the improv. And I was like super nervous because we have a show there. And I was like, I was talking to my buddy Naz. I was like, dude, I'm going to go ask him to be in the show. Yeah. So I was like, hey, Adam, what's up?

And he's like, oh, hey, you look like David Spade. I'm like, oh, thanks. He beat you to it. He already did it. That's like all he you look like david spade i'm like oh thanks he beat you to it he already did it that's like all he said what a genius yeah yeah short-circuited that conversation yeah but then he was really nice i was like you want to be on our show and he's like i can't i can't on this day but in the future for sure and i was like thank you yeah you should have been like i i am david spade do my show yeah i'm his son dude yeah um yeah no that shit's that's like a whole that's a whole thing that nobody then like you sound like a dick for talking about but like in this era of like instagramming and all that shit and like

being beholden to everyone like people didn't used to see you or be able to go actually let me take your picture for a second actually let me get a different one actually my homie is here like say this into the voicemail you should just be like what's up can i get your autograph i don't have a pen bye yeah right it's like do your thing and like i'm grateful to all the fans like they're awesome. Yeah, I was about to say that, too. It's cool. The best part is when someone is, like, cooler than you.

When you meet someone and you're like, whoa, you're a fan? And you're like, you're, like, awesome. Yeah, I'm grateful to know you. Like, I get to have cooler friends because you liked, like, a video I made. That's, like, that's pretty chill. Yeah. Or, like, me and my dad watch your stuff together. And you're like yes yeah yeah oh yeah if someone writes you and they're like yo dude hey i know you guys like

make comedy but like i want you to know like there's a message underneath it that got to me i'll cry for 20 minutes in my car and just like i'm doing it man i'm doing it yeah that's great yeah yeah and i was gonna say yeah i don't i feel like we haven't gotten to the point where we're bombarded. Yeah. When we have shows and stuff, they're always the nicest bros.

Yeah. But yeah, again, if they come up and ask me too many shots, do that. I love tequila, but it's like a bunch of whiskey shots i'm fucking i can't handle it i look hot mouth i look soft yeah yeah hey you're just a guy you're just a guy dude yeah there's power in being soft bro i know i put too much pressure on myself it is nice though when you're with your friends and you're like

if they're like we do shots like if you get shots for me and my friends i'll do one but that's great yeah you can like pick up the tab in that kind of way yeah that's always fucking nice spread the wealth yeah absolutely um dude can you help us answer some questions from some listeners before you yeah what do you mean? Is it like, it's not like geography questions. It's like, it's like life advice. It's like life advice. It's not like a quiz where it's like,

who's the first dude on the moon? No, but you know that one. I mean, you guys think they were really on the fucking moon. Come on. All right. This is an interesting one that I actually picked up anecdotally.

But someone told me, and they wanted to get our take on whether this was right or wrong, is that at a fraternity at UC Berkeley, there's a long-held tradition where they take all the pledging freshmen, put them into a room with a goat, and say that until one of them fucks the goat, they're not allowed to leave. Typically there's about 12 to 15 guys after about a day or two, they only have water and, and maybe pretzels. One of the guys will inevitably fuck the goat to get all the guys out of the

room. And then what the frat does is they accept all the other brothers and they kick out the guy who fucked the goat because no one wants to have a goat fucker in the frat. What's your opinion on that? First of all, that's real? I think it's real. Yeah.

I don't know though. It could be apocryphal, but that's what got passed. So let's say it's real okay who are these guys why do you want to be friends with these guys go right next door to the place where nobody's fucking a goat and pledge there that's where they make you fucking sheep though well that's that's not as bad, is it?

Yeah, I don't know. I mean, like, but what's the exact question about? I guess they were just trying to gauge the morality of the situation and decide, because I think what they were frustrated with was that they thought the frat was wrong. They thought the frat should accept the guy who had sex with the goat because he didn't do it out of sexual desire he did it out of um you know honoring the group and trying to get them he's like i will do i will jump on the grenade he's biting a bullet yeah like he's kind of a hero it from everyone's perspective but the

goats right well or we don't know we don't know that uh this is peter singer says it's okay to have sex with animals if it's mutually gonna if it's mutually pleasurable yeah i don't know how that works i mean i guess if you are laying there and they begin it that's a good call initiate is it wrong if they initiate i don don't know. I don't know. I really don't know. I do not know. I've had that thought with dolphins sometimes when I'm out surfing because I've heard they fuck humans, you know? Yeah.

According to Chris Delia's special. But I saw some dolphins the other day, and I was like, you know, it would be a cool story. They just came up and you know had their way get in where they fit them yeah you know that was my honest thought i just thought i'd share it there's a good youtube video that we watched about that guy who's in love with a dolphin and he had a sexual relationship with dolphins for like months and it's it's pretty eerie because he goes into such specificity about his sexual relationship.

But he feels very confident in his relationship. So it's compelling to watch at minimum. I mean, they have sex for pleasure. I think it's us and them. I don't know the other animals. I think it's dolphins and humans. And my dog, Taz. Okay.

Well, shit. With a name like Taz. Yeah, he's a beast bro um all right so so do we think that this we we we we're saying the frat should just do away with the entire ritual of the goat i mean aren't we exploding traditions everywhere i think this one can go like yeah don't you guys want to be the like north star fraternity that like is changing what frats look like or not like don't you guys want to be the ones that are like you know what we're doing we're changing we're done with all this shit we're gonna lead the way and not just be due to do this shit and then we're like but we built a fucking house like yeah for humanity style and it's like that doesn't matter if you're still doing this shit yeah i don't know yeah that that's how i i sort of handled the the pledge

interviews in my fraternity is i was like let's like let's have like a weird awesome time you know what i mean and just build on that as opposed to where you have this tradition of like it's like this like one guy tortures this guy and then it's just like a you know it just goes down the ladder and it's like it's like yeah it's not a good way to build trust i guess you know well the bottom line is you're trying to make yourself, you're trying to make someone else feel bad so that you feel better. Not that you feel better, but you don't feel bad.

You're here. As opposed to making someone feel better so they appreciate you, which will make you feel better. But I guess that's not the language. No, honors. you just nailed it though man that's the key that's the trick yeah that's the better way to live so next time this guy bones

the goat be like hey man sorry i put you through that we're actually going to do away with that ritual you're gonna be the last guy who did it and you're now president of the frat also everybody fucked the goat yeah dude yeah what, yeah. What are they going to do? Kick us all out? Yeah. Yeah. That unity would be strong. That poor goat, dude.

Yeah. Or that happy goat. No, it's not a poor goat. Everyone just takes off their pants and you got to wait. The goat comes to you. Oh, right, right, right. The goat like twerks over to everybody. And then as soon as you, as soon as you fuck the goat for just one stroke,

you pull out, you're done, and then you don't give it to the goat. But the goat will be like, man, I just had some of that human dick. I got to get more. That goat walks out of that frat, like, shuffling, like, feeling good. Like, oh, man. All right, this comes from Jeremy. Hey, what's up, guys? Stoke legends, Stoke lords. Thank you for all the Stoke you provide. I'm getting into weightlifting and I want to know how many sets do you guys think I have to do for an individual

muscle group for it to be considered a good workout? Here's what you do dude you uh you buy the book american psycho you read that book and then you look for the parts where he just talks about patrick bateman's workouts and you just pull out those excerpts and you do that many reps because it goes deep into all of his workouts and how many reps i want to say that he does like 20 reps of stuff. High rep count. High rep more for death rather than mass. Yeah. Do you still fuck with Freddie Stenellis?

Do you listen to his podcast? I do. I listen. I subscribe now. I do too, but I can't figure out how to listen to it. The Patreon doesn't make any sense to me. You got to get the app.

I know the app is insane. But like, I'll let it stock up. And then I'll like blaze through some stuff. I think that he's interesting and says all sorts of shit that I'm like, what are you talking about? And then 10 minutes later, he'll say something. And I'm like, I love what he's talking about. He has his obsessions, which sometimes I think derail him too often, but he's definitely a real clear thinker. I like listening to somebody who I disagree with sometimes.

It's fine. I like hearing a singular voice. Like I said, I worked on Bill Maher. Do I think Bill is right? 100% of the time? No. And I don't want to,

I don't want to tune into anybody who, you know, has a team of writers writing every sentence he says. So it's like fact-checked by, like, this group Think. I'm like, Bill just says some shit sometimes that you're like, what are you talking about? And then other times you're like, thank God he's saying it. You know, and I think that Brett's the same way. He's interesting enough to me that I forgive all the dumb shit that he says too.

And I hope people can do that for me. But anyway, I'm a high reps guy. I'm not a low reps guy. More importantly, range of motion hmm don't don't be one of these guys right the short shit mm-hmm no out and deep all the way in and tear the muscles let them recover do you do a slow slow on the way down to really tear it up? I'll do shit to fail, right? Okay.

Damn, dude. Ray Lewis style. Ray Lewis says he does every set to failure. Well, that's how you build. That's how you know what you're doing.'m still like i still have shit workouts from like uh 2002 from swimming like weight room workouts i'm like let me try that again i just like scale back all the weights and shit yeah would you do mat work like like a practice where it's just like ab work on the mat yeah i'll do like russian twists yeah with the med ball the kick yeah I do I mean what's

crazy is for those kicks is like because we did so many of them when I was swimming it's like muscle memory I could just go forever doing those so like I like pike ups you know we go out toe touch um the fucking ghd thing where you're like off the back of it and i'm talking about like a big crossfit sit up like contraption where you like go backwards uh oh right right yeah those are fucking brutal yeah all you need is the assault bike dude i mean you know i love the assault bike i'm a masochist i just love to torture myself well dude i i think i think three to five sets of four different exercises eight to twelve reps or whatever but i do lower reps sometimes i just think the important thing is to get it in. But yeah, if you're doing that,

I think you're annihilating your muscle group. Dude, I think CrossFit too. I think they're the tip of the spear for humanity. I've been watching all their docs that are on Hulu and Netflix during this quarantine. And I'm blown away by the kind of quality of person they got. Matt Fraser. He rocks.

I watch the games every year. It's unbelievable. It's unbelievable it's unbelievable and they're such good people I watch sports as someone who was like an athlete I mean I swam so I know people can't like relate to it or whatever but I worked with people

I swam with people who worked at a very high level right these are like I swam with like Olympians who put me to fucking shame uh when i got to the d1 level by like their pain tolerance by their like work ethic by their mental like in sometimes like insanity where they're just like the most competitive people you've ever met. And when they lose, it's a fucking nightmare to be around them.

And then they will be like, one more, let's go one more. Let's do another one. And you're like, sure. And then they, when they're like,

fine, got you. And you're like, all right. But like, you're off the hook. You're like, thank God.

Right. Exactly. You're like, I'm done. But these CrossFit people, they do things that are just un-fucking-believable as far as like the weight that they're tossing around and how many reps they're doing for how long and then jumping onto something else and working like

whatever the other muscle group is like it's crazy i can't wait till it gets more widespread and you have dudes who made it like like in the NFL for three seasons who were like, I'm still an athlete. I feel like I could do that. You know? Yeah. Because our best athletes go to the highest paying sports generally.

Yeah. I always think about that with every world cup. I'm like, what if we had Reggie Bush, Dwayne Wade and LeBron James, like on our, on our soccer team? Like what, what would that look like yeah yeah we don't and i thought we would i said

something like 12 years ago i think i said that in 2024 is that when the next world cup is yeah but i said then or 2022 i was like we will be in the finals by 2024 for the world cup because i at that point like concussions were huge people were getting pulled out of football like by the by like the droves and like they're gonna get thrown in the soccer i don't think it happened yeah i think i think once we start singing in the street the way you see it in other countries where kids just have soccer balls on their feet and they're like walking to school with it. Like we have to get to that point

where it's like integrated into just our day-to-day. Because right now we've got the, our athletes are good. They're like physically fit compared to other countries, but we just don't have the touch. We have everything in the world to make you the best, right? Like we have the facilities and like the equipment and the science and all that like dietary shit to make anybody the best right like we have the facilities and like the equipment and the science and all that like dietary shit to make anybody the best um but we just don't give a fuck about soccer which by the way the fact that it's the fact that we have something called football that's not football

is crazy it's hilarious it's insane but it. Yeah, I do kind of like it. I do like it. It's such like us. It's just like, no, but actually this is football, man. No, you guys have your football, but we've decided against the rest of the world's consensus that we have our own version of football, and it's fucking badass, dude. Yeah, and they'll kick the shit out of your football players.

Yeah, exactly. It's funny. People are like, football, football football and you're like what oh you mean soccer yeah and you feel like shitty for saying it yeah yeah like sorry soccer oh i oh you're talking about soccer i mean football sorry yeah oh yeah football yeah yeah um all right we got we got two more questions hey guys i faced a little bit of aggression in the lineup. I was wondering if you guys have ever had to deal with this kind of stuff and how you handle it. The story goes like this.

It was about 7 o'clock Eastern time on a Friday. I checked the SWO report, and it says tomorrow morning, 3 to 5. Now, I don't live in SoCal, so 3 to 5 is relatively gangster. I go to bed that night with dreams of legit lefts and ravaging rights. Wake up the next morning feeling like a million bucks. Hop in the truck, and me and the dad drive 10 miles away to the local break. Surf looks pretty dank. I paddle out on the fish ready to tear it up. It's pretty crowded like usual. I go to catch my first wave and a fat guy on a massive longboard drops in on me. This dude did it to me two more times. He was actually a pretty

good surfer too. Francesco and the boys took care of him in the PL later, but kind of a bummer. Should I have spoken up in this situation or just remain zen p.s do you guys intentionally follow me on tiktok or was that an ox or was that an accident i'm also looking for a job this summer is there anything i could do for you um i don't need to be paid just experience would be awesome uh sent from samsung smart fridge three um you gotta get one of those smart fridges first and foremost right that sounds cool he sent it from his smart fridge yeah yeah that's the shit that's awesome uh was he saying that that they they beat up the guy who's dropping out do you know what the PL is? I'm not familiar with that lingo. Parking lot? Oh, good call, dude.

I mean, that's where shit goes down, you know? Bro, you're a genius, dude. I was thinking about PL. I was like... I just love that he's a good guy and then his homies just whooped his ass and he's like, do you have any advice for me? It's like, aren't you fine? Didn't your friends beat him up? Yeah dude i would say i would say stay zen dude i mean you know uh

i believe in karma so someone's dropping on you that sucks but you know what someone's gonna start dropping on him and on him soon. So yeah, just maintain your etiquette out in the lineup and all will be well. And dude, you know, when you're new to a beach, it's always a precarious thing. You know, there's people who are there who feel very confident on the waves and you kind of have to work around them in my limited experience. But I think the thing is this this if you can become the best surfer at that break no one will drop in on you so i think i think it's always what can you control and that's how good you get so just get better and then no one will be dropping in on you and if they do

everybody will give them the hairy eyeball yeah i love that yeah um all right last question what up boys this is mainly for strider. Strider's our buddy who comes on a lot. He's the relationship guru. He has a beautiful relation and we always look to him for advice on how we can cultivate that in our own lives. But if he's not on, chat in JT. I'm sure you boys got something cooking in the dome, so feel free to hop in here. I've been dating my girlfriend for over a year and I truly love her. Issue is we both leave for college next year and I don't know how to handle it. I can't imagine myself breaking up with her, but at the same time, I don't see it working out at all if I can't see her.

We would be a plane ride away, so visits would be rare. She wants to stay together 100% and if we do just stay together, I feel like I would miss out on a lot of college experiences with girls and shit. I don't know what to do, my guys. Also, have any of you guys had girlfriends in other schools in college and how did that go? Thanks, boys. Keep stoking. Please keep me anonymous. So he has a girlfriend in another school? He has a girlfriend, I think, in high school. Now they're going to separate colleges.

And it seems like he's pretty keen to experience the full college single life. But she really wants to stay together. And he's not feeling like they'll be able to visit much because their colleges are super far apart gotcha i mean i think i think he's looking for us to give him the green light but that's what i'm seeing so far what do you guys think yeah andres how do you feel yeah so my my wife and i were together in college and she went abroad for a year and we were like i was like look you're going abroad for a year i'm gonna be here do we want to like have that phone call one time where it's like oh like in like four months when she's with somebody or i'm with somebody and then it's like fucking weird

or do we want to just say let's put a pin in things. And when you come back, we'll pick up where we left off. Unless we don't. Right. And then like, it wasn't meant to be. And she came back, picked up where we left off, got married. The rest is history. So like, if your girlfriend who from high school was is my wife is my girlfriend from high school

if she's the one you'll make your way back to her or she'll make her way back to you um yeah i mean like you'll get out there and you'll meet somebody who's fucking whack as fuck you'll go what is going on like or maybe you maybe you aren't gonna be good at being single you know um or maybe she'll meet somebody who fulfills her more than you do and that'll be a tough break but eventually that wouldn't have worked out anyway you know so i give it the old college try um and then if it's if it's right you guys will get back together the next summer and go what were we thinking

get your fucking clothes off I love you that's nice I don't know you're a good looking dude you know did you feel less like did you feel more confident that you were making the right choice and staying with someone that you had known from so early in your life because you

knew you had opportunities so it wasn't like you were like always wondering what if it was kind of like you kind of you were like no i know i know there's other stuff out there but i'm confident in this choice i sometimes wonder because my friends who have had the relationships from the longest tend to be the good-looking guys who had success with that stuff early on and then kind of saw the writing on the wall and were like no i know a good thing when i feel it so i'm just gonna stick with it no i wouldn't say like i'm like i definitely didn't have like uh i was not like fucking mr player cool dude um but like i'd already i'd been dating my my girlfriend wife in high school and then we went to college i went to college i'm a year older than her i went

we stayed together and didn't really work and then she came to the same school coincidentally and we just got together and then we took a year off and then it was you know one of those years and then afterwards we were like I didn't meet anybody who was fucking great you know what I mean and I think that yeah there's those guys who

like they get hit on like girls get hit on right because they're just like so handsome or hit on, right? Because they're just, like, so handsome or, like, have swag or whatever. So they know, like, she was just fucking chill about it, man. So, like, I'm pretty triggered. She wasn't, like, a fan. Like, guys that are that handsome, they have, like, a fan meter

where they're, like, when girls come at them like fans, they're, like, this is weird. But, like, a girl can be chill about it. I think they go, all right, she's normal. Because they've seen crazy. I've never seen crazy. You know. But then as far as like staying together, you just got to be ready to do the work. It's a whole nother like thing.

You know what I mean um i mean it's you got cell phones and shit now and like facetime and all that but that'll be some work yeah i guess i i wanted to ask you this earlier when you're like uh like when you play the the kind of like love interest in a movie or something like that, like, is it tough to play the part that you played in like the intern where you're kind of like an unlikable dude or like, like, do you know when you see that you're like, when you read the script, you're like, Oh, this guy's kind of like, like, did that read as like a guy? Cause he's not an admirable dude. Right?

Right. Right. Yeah. And did that attract you to the part or what are you thinking? They, no, I read, I read the script and was like, Oh, yeah. Did that attract you to the part, or what are you thinking? No, I read the script and was like, okay, I'm this guy. And then they were like, yeah, and Robert De Niro is this person, and Anne Hathaway is this person. I was like, yeah, great. Let's go. I mean, I auditioned with Anne and got the part. But i don't give a fuck like what the deal is i don't care if

i'm like the peeping tom neighbor uh i'm doing that movie right uh and like nancy meyer's like fucking solid but after that there were a couple movies that were like oh like you're this guy and i passed because i was like i just did that like you know i kind of want to be somebody that's not that scumbag right um and in one of those movies they completely changed the character so he didn't cheat on his girlfriend and the movie was fucking awesome. And I was like, Oh man, I could have just said, yeah,

done the movie or like attach myself to the movie. Then they would have been like, well, maybe it's not right that he does that. Let's change it. And then I would have been in the movie. So that's like, yeah.

But yeah, as far as that movie, I was like, sign me up and then and then you said you liked PTA a lot and then I saw you were

in Inherent Vice did you little bit little bit I was in Inherent Vice this is weird this is the weirdest thing in the world

Paul Thomas Anderson watches Warholics really and like we had heard about this from our, our agent. Like he was at the same agency as us. And he was like,

you want to hear something crazy? I'm like, what did, and he's like, Paul Thomas Anderson watches workaholics. And I'm like, how, how do you know this?

He's like, Oh, you fucking talk about it. And I'm like, this is crazy. So I auditioned for the Master and didn't get it. Jesse Plemons part? I don't know what it was.

I can't remember. I think it was like he wrote a thing, and you just had to do the thing. And then he goes, all right, this is what you can do. And it wasn't even in the movie. He wrote like a brand new thing just to test people on it? I think so. I could be wrong. Maybe it was like one of the Scientology-style tests,

and I was testing somebody. But then I did another scene that wasn't that. I don't know. But I didn't get it. But Jillian was in that movie. And then he brought me back for Inherent Vice. Or he didn't. The casting people did. And I read it for this cop. for Inherent Vice or Heaton, you know,

the casting people did. And I read for this cop and they're like, okay, cool. There's gonna be two cops. He's gonna say the lines and you're just gonna be there. And I was like,

great, cool. Like, I don't fucking care. And I went straight from Orgaholics to Pasadena. It was a night shoot. We pulled over over the car that had Joaquin and Martin Short.

So that box is checked. And did a thing. And the other actor, this dude, Wilson Bethel, I think is his name. He's an actor. He's on Rise Up or All Rise right now. And he said the lines.

Killed it. Seemed like a cop and i was just like with the flashlight and you can see my torso through the windshield and that is it uh but whatever it was one night shoot and then at the end the ad the uh ad was like hey uh paul's gonna come over and say hi because he had been at like video village the entire night like didn't see him um and he was like what's up man thanks so much for doing this i'm like yo like fucking this is awesome yeah so you want to have a drink and he just whooped out like a whiskey and i'm like sure drink like and it's 6 a.m at this point because we shot all night uh he's like so like

what are you up to and like we just bullshitted for like a minute i'm asking all like the dumbest questions like how long you guys two weeks into filming huh you know just like yeah yeah you know and like what are we gonna do like find out we have the same favorite X, Y, Z. I don't know. And then I was like, peace. And I went from there straight to Fred 62 and Mos Felis. Ate breakfast with just like a big shit-eating grin on my face. Like, I just met PTA. Done.

Yeah. That's a great spot, too. Fred 62 is a good follow-up spot for something like that yeah if you're like awake at 5 a.m it's the only place i've been yeah uh i think i crushed like fucking pancakes or something ridiculous um yeah their chili cheese fries need to be thicker but it's good they shoestring them you drop the comment card yeah i actually but i it's funny i'm drinking red wine right now i drank too much red wine yeah i actually but i it's funny i'm drinking red wine right now i drank too much red wine when i one night i threw up in my my bowl there and dude that's where you threw up yeah that's where i boked yeah i have i have an amazing fred 62 throw

up story where this guy who does he was like a post production assistant on Workaholics, and we'd all went to the wrap party, and then he was, like, hammered. And afterwards, a PA, I took, like, these two PAs out for, like, a 4 a.m. meal or whatever, just, like, wrap the season. And this one dude is super fucking hammered, and the other PA is like, man, he's gonna like bomb it so he takes him outside and you guys can use this as far as you're like slang or whatever but the other pa

comes back and he goes dude he just power washed the sidewalk and he was like i don't know what to do i'm like well i got a jet like you know it's 4 a.m my wife's gonna kill me i'll be i gotta go but like here's cab money get home i peace out they the next day i hear they couldn't get a cab because no one would fucking let him in because he was like you know all over the place and then that dude peaced out and apparently one of the dudes from the kitchen was like i'll drive him home and he drove him home to glendale where he lived with his parents and like knocked on the door and like woke the parents up and was like here's your you know 28 year old kid or whatever uh but that power wash just stuck with me forever good turn that's perfect yeah that's perfect oh man dude that's good dude um yeah and so to bring in full circle to this kid

i think go to college. It sounds like you want to break up for a little bit, maybe try that out. And then I think in time you guys will come back together. And I look forward to the day when you're emailing us about your upcoming nuptials. So. Or stay together,

but it's going to be a whole new work. It's going to be like, right. Yeah. It's going to be a whole new fucking ballgame. Yeah. But I feel like be a whole new fucking ballgame. Yeah. But I feel like he wants to break up. I feel like that's why he messaged us was to give him the green light.

But I think I said that before. But maybe not. I love this shit because they're going to be like, dude, we broke up. I'm single. And then she's just going to meet some amazing pre-med guy who rocks. And he's going to be like like i can't get fucking laid like nothing is happening and then like at holiday like they're gonna come back to their hometown she's gonna be like yeah he's like actually here with me he's like what's

up man i've heard everything about you you sound like you're great like And he's just going to be like, Owen Wilson, meet the parents. Yeah. Good call. I'd say stay with it. Try it out. If he wants. Yeah. Get crazy.

Believe in romance. Love. That is true. It's good to believe in stuff. Yeah. All right. Do you like the moon landing? What?

Yeah, I believe in it. Stuff like the moon landing? Yeah. I have my doubts. No, I don't know. I believe in it. Yeah, that's all the questions. Honors, that's basically it, dude.

Thank you for coming on, man. It that's that's basically it dude thank you for coming on man it was so nice talking to you especially thank you for having me guys circumstances man it's really nice of you to still take the time to come on and talk to us and yeah thank you for all the time of course man i'm just trying to show off my psychedelic snakeskin blanket over my whiteboard so nobody can see what i'm writing yeah i was looking at that it's you know if people get tired of looking at me they can writing yeah i was looking at that it's you know if people get tired of looking at me they can kind of just zero in on that it's fine yeah you wrote go ahead no you go is that your writer's room here yeah this is my like it's like a basement

office thing with like uh but like whiteboard then i got my computer system here and then our gym over here and kitchenette. You know. This is like quarantine writer's dungeon. Cool. It's badass. You're working on some movies right now you said? Yeah, I'm writing I guess the only thing

that's real so far is this treasure hunt movie with Vince Vaughn for for netflix how cool nice dude we'll see where that goes and what happens when that gets made and then just a bunch of other fucking plates i'm spinning you know always is writing your favorite part yeah writing is like writing is the most rewarding for me because you're like, you're just coming, you came up with it and you made it work. You know what I mean?

Like improv is fun because it's like, oh wow, that moment happened and it was perfect. Right. But like, you can't get that back. Whereas like writing is like, you constructed something, you made something that like built and turned into something. And then when you see it filmed or you see an actor come fulfill a role, that shit's You made something that like built and turned into something. And then when you see it filmed or you see an actor come fulfill a role, that shit's just fucking cool to me.

But it's a slog. It's like a lot of alone time. Being in a writer's room for a TV show is like the greatest job in the world. That's the best job. Because you're rapping with other people who are like-minded and quick and with it yeah yeah well you're just like you're not alone when you think of something funny you say it out loud and people laugh or they don't right um when you're by yourself you think of something you don't say it out loud you write it down and you go that's funny but you don't get that reward until very far down the line and then also like the reward is that everyone goes we love what you wrote it's very it's super funny this line made me laugh out loud so we need to change it and then they just get right into like

the work that needs to be done like whereas you can go on a riff in a writer's room about something that will never be filmed for 30 minutes and feel like you had an awesome day. You know what I mean? There's something that I feel like that energy in the writer's room is just something that it's just like that i'm such a unique feeling right and then if you could take that yeah you can like there are always things that you're like

well we can't film that but if you can find that one that's just as funny as that outrageous thing you can't film and find a way to do it and you you pull it off or like it's doable like that's just like the fucking best yeah and you feel like your brain gets sharper because everyone in the writer's room is smart and they're they're the riffing is so fast that it literally feels like a workout for your brain yeah i'd came out at night sometimes and i'd be like i'm fucking tired yeah i'm riffing yeah that would sometimes be the most tired i'd i'd get yeah i'm like i can't even like think oh no that was just my battery saying i got 10 left how timely but yeah you're you're but your mind's also going you're exhausted but your brain is still going i would be like

it's you're not at work anymore just stop just it off. Like, you don't need to be funny here. I'm like, you know? It's like when they interview sprinters during the Olympics, they're like, just finished the race. I'm like, how was it? They're like, I mean, like, I knew I had him at the end. And then it was just, God bless. That's the worst with boxing, too.

Boxing, a guy gets knocked out or gets his head rocked for 12 rounds. And they're like, they're like, Lennox Lewis, how do you feel after that fight? He's like, you know, I wish it went better. You're like, well, yeah, he's not going to be like super with it. He just got his head bobbed. Right. Actually, I had one last thing. Did you think of Neil McDonough as the bad guy in Game Over Man when you were writing it?

Because he's such a good bad guy. He's an awesome bad guy. We didn't. We had, that was like our linchpin casting we knew we had to get somebody super diabolical who read is like a bad guy just instantly too because he kind of has that energy yeah i mean that dude is those eyes those fucking eyes if he wasn't in movies like being sinister like i don't know what else he would be doing yeah if he was like the guy at hertz who rented you your car you'd be like it's he's too yeah exactly right yeah the keys are on the back tire you're like am i gonna get murdered out there in the middle yeah that's all i'm saying from here on out. I don't care who gets it or what. But, no, yeah, he was great. He killed it, dude.

Yeah, he's a Vancouver native, and we were filling up there. And so it was a no-brainer. Nice. Yeah. All right, sweet. Well, thanks, man. Yeah, thank you for coming on. Of course, dudes.

Thank you for having me. Keep the stoke alive. Thanks. Will do, dude. Thank you. Later. Have a great one. You too.

All right. He was cool as fuck. Yeah, that was awesome. Yeah, dude, take it. No, I know. Dude, I had a girl last night message me, and she was like, not all cops are bad. I'm like, I'm not saying that.

I'm just focusing my attention on a different situation. I'm just worried about African-American people in America. And then she was like, you know what? With these protests, I'm so over it. She's like, I'm just over it. And then I was like, yeah, I think black people are over a lot of stuff. It's a privilege to be over it. Yeah.

I know. She's like, I'm so over it. I was like, oh, wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you feel bad for a day. It sucks, huh? Yeah. Yeah.

I'm also seeing a lot of accounts that they just joined Twitter in March. It's like something weird about that. Yeah. Dude, there's dicey stuff there's been some dicey stuff where you're like my friend sarah had a thing on her instagram where it's very clear that someone who's purporting to be a protester sprays pepper spray into someone's face and then um and it's like it doesn't look like the kind of pepper spray you just pick up at a store. I don't know why they would do that or what the gain is, but I think it's just a, I don't know.

Certain people are just trying to cause chaos. Yeah. Yeah. Pepper spray is a tricky one though. Like you spray that, you're getting it. Like. Yeah. Oh yeah.

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My Lord, Chad, what's your beef of the week? My beef of the week is the collar daddy beef. I don't know if you guys have been following this dude good beef bro i've been following it dude it's so interesting i listened to to dave portnoy's uh podcast on it and uh i've been following the beef dude i mean and it's a good lesson for anyone in like a partnership with someone about how to handle the biz um do not let cash get in the way so basically caller daddy is one of the top podcasts in the niche um sophia franklin franklin and alex cooper and they just you know they talk about girls stuff you know

they get they get down and dirty they're they're very real and i think their audience uh really responds to that and they they signed a three-year contract with barstool and starting as creators from what i gather it was a pretty standard contract you know and the big thing is that barstool would own their ip or their IP, my bad. They own their IP. It was a three-year contract. And with the amount of listeners that they're getting, the money does not match up. But at the same time,

they signed this contract when they were just starting out. So they didn't know how big it was going to get. Although you should always ask, act as if you're going to be huge, but lesson learned. Um, so they're re they're renegotiating and, and Sophia got a new boyfriend, this dude at HBO or whatever.

And he was talking in her ear about how, you know, they can make so much more money, which they can. If you look at like what Joe Rogangan is making they're they're putting up joe rogan numbers so you know that like their contract was like 75 000 a year plus bonuses for like extra downloads so according to dave portnoy they're raking in you know around 500 000 a year and so they're renegotiating installing on the contract and uh and then you know uh alex wanted to stay with barstool because barstool was like they're like all right this

is ridiculous but we're gonna we're gonna make a compromise here here's a new deal you make 500 000 a year guaranteed plus bonuses and merch and all this stuff and at the end of one year you get your ip so you know they probably could have made more money but i think the important thing was is that they were going to get their ip back and then they could go do whatever they wanted with the show but one of them sophia didn't want to do that and then alex wanted to stay with barstool so they were beefing hard and eventually it got so bad that they just split alex is doing the show solo sophia's out and it's a it's a bummer for their friendship you know but it's it's an important lesson i think just to you know not let money get in the way but also think about the contracts you're signing

oh yeah dude i i think dude it was yeah it was good for me to listen to i was like i've been very fascinated by it i think the world world, right? And then I can't understand. It just, does Sophia just not like Barstool? Did she just not want to be on the Barstool brand anymore? Cause it seemed like Barstool boosted the offer and put it in a, in a territory where it seemed like it was more fair for, for the listenership that they had, but then she still didn't want to go with them and it felt like it felt like her boyfriend just got in her ear and convinced her that that it would be a greener pastures if they were at like uh i don't know earwolf or something like that

yeah and i i don't really understand her train of thought on it because like if I were her I would have just even if she didn't want to stay with Barstool like Barstool helped blow it up and it was just one year I mean you just sort of do your year then you can do whatever you want with the show as opposed

to just pissing them off so that they take the IP back. And, you know, it's a whole mess. So, yeah, it sounds like this boyfriend was just, you know, she – yeah, he was just in her ear and she sort of lost it. He's a little Yoko Ono-ish. Huge, huge. And, dude, it's very smart the way dave portnoy uses his uh visual his like visible

platform to like handle his business affairs yeah but i'm very grateful that mike bertolino at all things comedy doesn't do it that way dude totally yeah totally if you like cross him he'll just go straight to his audience and it's very effective like he bullied like scooter braun yeah into like backing out and he's very good at like weaponizing that but it's uh and it scares me but it's not it's not what i would want from a boss it would make me feel uneasy yeah for him oh it's I mean, it's, I can't imagine it happened. Like if that happened to like us, it would suck balls, but it is very entertaining. Yeah, it is.

And we, we, we, we got a call from Barstool too when we were first coming up. Yeah. No, he made fun of me on the, he didn't make fun of me, but he was like, what's your guys' story? I was like this and that. Now, you know, we're full time. We make like two videos a month. He's like, you're full time but he was like, what's your guys' story? I was like, this and that. Now we're full-time. We make two videos a month. He's like, you're full-time and you make two videos a month? Yeah.

I was like, well, we put a lot of thought into it. Yeah. Yeah. I think we landed at the right place. Joe, what do you think? What? What do you think about Portnoy going after the color daddy girls online? I don't know.

I didn't see it. I saw a video of him going to some guy who came in. the color daddy girls on online. I don't know. I didn't see it. I just, I saw a video of him. Yeah. It's an interesting beef. I really enjoyed it. Dude.

I'm fascinated by it. I watched the, the one girl, Alex's entire 34 minute breakdown. I've been on me too. He did. Yeah. Oh, no way,

dude. That's amazing. Do you think it's because we're in a partnership that it's, like, kind of fascinating to us to see, like – Yeah, I mean, it's a good lesson, like, not to let money, you know, ruin things, especially for them within, like, a year. Yeah. Yeah, and now they're going to replace the one girl, and it's, like – Are they going to replace her?

It's very awkward to me. I didn't know they're gonna yeah yeah i think alex is back and sofia is out yeah but she's doing it solo right now oh okay i thought she was gonna get another guest another host i listened to her episode back and she's gonna have guests she said and she's gonna like have have fans come to talk, but I'm not sure if she's replacing the host. Maybe in time she will find a replacement. Yeah. I don't know.

That's a great beef, though, dude. That's one of my – I've been fascinated by that beef. Everyone's talking about it. Everybody's covering it. Well, they're huge. I don't know how many listens they got, but they're on the list. They're up there with Joe Rogan. Right.

I guess Santino called when Santino subbed in for Callan on The Fighter and the Kid, and they had both of the Caller Daddy girls on. I guess he said, one of you will get a boyfriend, and it will come in between you guys. He said that? Yeah, I guess he predicted it.

I've only seen that as a comment. I haven't seen the actual footage of him saying that but people are saying he called it yeah oh interesting yeah that's scary yeah um yeah aaron what's your take on it uh just always always always keep your IP. Yeah. Do we get our, we get our IP from ATC,

right? A hundred percent. Hell yeah. It's yours now. It's you'll be yours forever. Yeah. ATC's a company by comedians for comedians. Yeah.

And Strider's Strider's show guys, Strider's show is going to be coming out pretty soon. Get ready for History is Dank. And I was talking to him about it, and dude, Strider is effusive about you, Aaron. It's been super fun. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah.

Two best guys. Aaron, what's your B for the week? My B for the week is with the local news. I've been watching a lot, obviously, because of what's going on in the world and the protests. Mostly been watching CBS2 here in LA, which is also KTLA somehow. But man, there's one guy in particular who's out on the street he's in harm's way so i get it like he's doing something brave but he's he's just constantly and then the the news anchors back uh at home base are constantly like

putting their like attaching a narrative or uh speculating on a narrative. And it's super upsetting because it's wrong. And I think local news should just literally just show us what's happening. Like this guy talks, this guy on the street, talks like there's not something incredibly exciting happening right in front of him whether it's you know just just people saying how they feel and and there's cops right there and this guy just is going on and on about how this thing started it's like dude everybody knows like yeah there's not even a grandma turning on the news right now who

doesn't know what's going on yeah so yeah my beef is with those guys just just show us what's happening man because so much can be misconstrued and then if all you hear is the misconstrued then then that's all you think and that's terrible yeah yeah i just think that the news with how it's how it's uh yeah like if you turn on the news it's just like the worst things it's trash every time and you're like and then like you said with like the protests there was like you know peaceful empowering you know inspiring stuff happening but they don't show any of that really no it's just like they're like they're riots happening and you're like like oh fuck and then you know then you talk to people who like trapped through they're like it's not as bad as it was on the news and And you're like, you know, what is the news?

What's the benefit of what they're doing? No, they're fuckheads, man. They're just trying to get attention so that they can keep their bottom line secure. Like they're, they're,

they're under existential threat because social media has totally just destroyed the way people consume information and, or destroyed their model for how people can consume information and they're just sending out awful messaging it's it's ridiculous dude no honestly i went to the the riots today on sunset or the right i'm sorry i'm so sorry i went to the protest it wasn't a riot on sunset and it was like it was totally peaceful and if you were there i think anybody would have been inspired by what was going on. Like there's people of every color, every age, just saying like, hey, what happened to George Floyd was fucked up. None of these people are trying to loot or do any of that shit.

They're literally just trying to help people who are, you know, not being protected. And I don't even believe that the news people are purposely misleading. I just think you don't need to be on a live mic for five hours. Right. Like, you just don't, like, let some of that breathe. Like, it's not dead air. We're hearing there's audio coming from the outside world. Like just, we don't need what, you know, Joe, whatever, no, not Joe Morisi, whatever. I'd love to hear Joe Morisi on the news.

He'd be great. That'd be amazing. Yeah. We just don't need like, you don't have to fill that time. Like there's something incredible happening. We can all see it. It's not radio. Shut up.

Yeah. And, and I, you know, and I posted about black lives matter and I firmly believe in that. I think that, that it's an important thing to, to support.

And I think that it doesn't mean that we don't care about other people. Our compassion is not limited. We're just focusing on the people who are, I think are being most oppressed. But, but also I feel for the shop owners and the people who got their places i mean i was driving around today you see sweet older guys who are you know bolting up their store with wood because their shit got broken from whoever and yeah they don't have a part in this and it's just it's a tragedy but i

think i think what started all this tragedy is and what the core issue here is is the systemic oppression of black people and that's what we're trying to if we can fix that i think you wouldn't have these other issues that are affecting other innocent people but yeah but my beef of the week is with passwords my beef of the week is with passwords, dude. I was trying to log into Microsoft Xbox for something. And they're like, what's your password? I'm like, you know, I don't know my fucking password, Microsoft. Why the fuck do I have another password with you? Okay. And then people are like, Hey, you can't have the same password for everything. Cause then if someone finds out your password, they have access to everything. And I'm like, well, I don't care.

All right. I'm tired. I don't need, I got 6,000 passwords. I don't know any of them. Every time I go to my like spectrum cable, Microsoft, my bank, every time they ask me for my password, if it's not already saved into the device that I'm logging into it with, I have to create a new password every time. And then, so every time I'm taking the same old password I had, and I'm adding another exclamation point to it, and I'm just confusing myself even more to or i'm changing one letter so it's capitalized because they have their own bullshit characters requirements and i'm just like screw all these passwords dude dude i feel that i feel that's so deep in my loins uh just that's where i'm trying to reach. Yeah, dude. I mean, what's with all these accounts? Dude, you got to make accounts for like, you know,

if you want to track your package or like you need to make an account. And I'm like, just tell me where the package is. All right. You know, I want green juice. I don't want to make another password. I don't know. And then they're like, connect with Facebook. You know, I'm going to connect with Facebook you know I'm gonna connect

with Facebook yeah for sure you know I'm gonna do that yeah for sure yeah and then that's a weird gray area yeah

yeah they just had a massive walkout at Facebook today the whole company's revolting against Zuckerberg yep cause he won't fact check

big T I mean we got to get a hold of technology and passwords and accounts and our pubes dudes i mean that's what we gotta do bro i'm stoked on it though let's get a hold of it dude we're gonna figure out all this shit and it's gonna be a brighter day we got this and once we take care of corona and once we take care of racial injustice then we're gonna scooch on over to climate change and we gonna fix that shit and then we're just gonna be cruising baby it's gonna be easy street is that dumb it's optimistic, and I love it. Yeah. All right, Chad, who's your babe of the week? My babe of the week is – I'm going to go with myself.

What up, Chad? You're a babe. Thank you. I got a solo win in Warzone. Dude. A few days ago. And I'm not going to lie, Stokers. I suck.

So I don't know how this happened, but in those 30 minutes or less, I was free. In those 30 minutes of virtual combat when i had you know an epic silenced smg or lmg i can't remember with a thermal scope i was free and i you know every time i saw a dude just straight up you know i think it's because i did that murph workout and i just you know i think i was just channeling my inner warrior. And, you know, I will post the win soon when it's more appropriate. You're a beast.

Dude, same here. You know, I posted about your W. I was so fired up on it, but it wasn't the time for it, so I had to take it down. But I'm so fired up on your W's and W's. Thank you, man man i was alone saturday night you know i was thinking about the drill factor then i got the w and i didn't drill myself that's nice dude i preserved i've kept the jizz in my balls retain your goo bro retain it

beast aaron who's your baby of the week? My babe of the week is the block button on social media. It's good. It's just like, you know, what I got into with people was I just retweeted something

from someone else and got attacked by a follower who's probably a fan of another podcast on ATC who I hadn't had a problem with. But, dude, I don't need to go back and forth with you. No, I think he was from Punch Drunk.

I'm not sure. That's all he had on his profile was that he loved the Falcons. But, you know, I just retweeted something. He tweeted something else at me. It was supposed to be equal, and it turned out. And I immediately went into defense mode.

I went, oh, okay, let me see the source of what you posted or what you're tweeting at me. And it was a guy from Breitbart. And I'm like, aha, something's fishy about this. And sure enough, later on that night, it was the video. I was tweeting a video that was like a super cut of cops being violent. I saw that. It's horrible.

It's horrible. Fucking bullies. Yeah, it's not okay, no matter what happens. Yeah. They have to be better than that. Yeah. And then he tweets at me this video of this group of dudes like brutally beating this white guy i saw that was horrible too and i'm like that's horrible yeah i'm not arguing

that's not horrible but i'm looking at your source is a guy at breitbart and he's saying it's because of this scenario this context and i'm like i don't trust that guy and then sure enough later that night it's because the white guy that got beat up, and it's still horrible. Had a machete, right? He had a sword. Yeah. He was chasing dudes with a sword under the guise of defending his business. As soon as you start chasing someone, you're on offense.

Well, and that dude came out and actually had some pretty had good humility in his tweets the guy who got his ass rocked oh really and he said he didn't even own that place that was a bar he liked to drink at and he was protecting the bar because he liked to drink there and you know i i i admire the guy's bravery not with a deadly weapon no it was a crazy and he even acknowledged he was like look i'm in retrospect this was probably stupid that i did this yeah he was able to like talk coherently yeah i mean that video was brutal so i'm i'm glad he's okay or at least yeah he looked he looked dead yeah yeah that video looks like they left him but i mean that scared people you know and you

come at them with a sword and then you lose that sword. Like to show me only a piece of a video as evidence of something. I'm like, nah. And then, and then, you know, I'm just block. And then I sent that video to him after him blocked so he can still see it, but I don't have to hear back from him. Block button's beautiful. What a babe.

Dude, my babe of the week is Oliver Platt. I think one of the better characters of all time. Does incredible work in The Three Musketeers, A Time to Kill, Flatliners, Lake Placid. Lake Placid. He's

tremendous in all of these movies. He is so good at just playing blowhards, but bringing so much likeability to them. And I just think he's one of the most underrated actors of all time. And he's had some really choice parts that are in smaller movies, like Please Give, where he can really show off the full array of his skills.

And they are immense. So to everyone, I would check out Oliver Platt, Three Musketeers, Lake Placid. These are not great movies, but he is great in them. And he's just a treasure. Oh, Casanova. That's another like, who cares, who remembers movie that he is just full of inspiration. Like genuinely funny.

And he's dealing with mediocre scripts and he's just bringing life to them. So I'm grateful to have Oliver Platt in my life. I thought about him the other day and i was like we're not talking about oliver platten up that he's a fucking beast so oliver platt you're my baby of the week um chad who's your legend of the week uh my legend of the week is my niece taylor my brother sent me a video of her. She's starting to talk now. She said thank you. It's the cutest thing I've ever seen.

Oh, dude. Yeah. You're the cutest thing I've ever seen when you say that, dude. Thanks. Fucking adorable, bro. Thank you. Dude, the girl I'm seeing, she said she liked when you had a beard in our YouTube video. I made her watch one of our videos. Oh, really? In our YouTube rabbit hole video. She said she liked when you had a beard in our youtube video i made her watch one of our videos oh really in our youtube rabbit hole video she said she liked when you had a beard thank you uh tell her thank you yeah i don't know i i've always preferred the

clean shaven but i appreciate her yeah i did get a lot of nice comments when I had it. People were like, I like the scruff. You look great both ways. No, it's like, thank you. Dude, we do dirty talk where we say we love each other. That's weird. But then we agree afterwards that we don't. Aaron, who's your legend? Whatever works, man.

legend of the week. Whatever works, man. My legend of the week is the center, number 33, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar. Beast. I mean, he's been advocating for

change for so long. From the moment he changed his name from Luel Sindor to sparring with Bruce Lee to dominating on the from the moment he changed his name from Luel Sindor to sparring with Bruce Lee to dominating on the basketball court to where they had to change the rules. There's no dunk anymore. This guy's too good.

And then his article that he wrote for the LA Times the other day is just beautiful. Proper renaissance man. Yeah, yeah. Most unstoppable move in NBA history history and then he's a beast with a pen too yeah what a great dude strider tells the story often i drag striders see tinker taylor soldier spy in theaters i fell asleep immediately and slept throughout the two

and a half hour uh slog that that movie is um and kareem abdul-jabbar was in the theater and strider says he looked around the theater everyone was asleep and then he saw kareem Abdul-Jabbar was in the theater, and Strider says he looked around the theater, everyone was asleep, and then he saw Kareem in the back, fully focused on the entire movie. And unmissable. Yeah, his long ass in the back. Yeah, yeah, I love him. And he's in an airplane.

Yeah. Don't forget that. He's the best. He's in this doc called The Blacklist, which is just like black artists and luminaries and stuff talking about their experience, and he's so best he's in this doc called the blacklist which is just like black uh artists and luminaries and stuff talking about their experience and he's he's so interesting in it he's he's a really compelling guy um my legend of the week is matt fraser he's the best crossfitter in the world four years in a row guys watch the crossfit documentary on netflix you'll feel shot

out of a cannon it'll just make you better at whatever you're trying to do in your day this guy is 5'9 195 and he just gets after it. I'm talking cleaning jerks. I'm talking muscle ups. I'm talking pull-ups. I'm talking upside down push-ups. The guy can do it all. He's going up against guys who are on roids, and he still whoops that ass. He just has a great perspective on things. He's got a wife that he loves. I heard he lives in his mom's basement and he's a world champion from there. I love that because I've been thinking about moving into my mom's house.

And he just has good quotes too. Like he says like, look, if you look at any of these individual events, none of them are in my wheelhouse, but I work out hard every day so that I don't have a wheelhouse. And I was like, get it, Matt Fraser. And he's not like, he's never bitter

and he's never arrogant. And he just lives in this middle place where he just takes life as it is and he's confident in his abilities and that's enough. And I just found it very inspiring. So I've talked to you on CrossFit before for it's like kind of culty like atmosphere, but I'm buying in, dude.

Sign me up for the cheesy maxims and the hard muscle-ups. I think it works, baby. Are you going to join gym? Nah. Nice. In my head, I think it's cool. That's awesome. Chad, what's your

quote of the week? I'm going to keep going with Van Wilder. This is Van Wilderer and they're doing the naked mile run and and so he's standing there with terry reed and she's like she's like everyone is naked and he's like well it is the naked mile run everyone else will be in their birthday suits and then this guy with like super hairy back just comes up gives everyone a high five and he's like except that guy i love that part that's fine and that's it dude keep going van waller that's a good flick yeah aaron what's aaron what's your quote of the week? My quote of the week is from

that article that Kareem Abdul-Jabbar wrote for the LA Times. My mic is on, right? Yep. Sorry. New headset. Learn it. We're three helicopter pilots talking to each other. Let me see.

Okay, here we go. Racism in America is like dust in the air. It seems invisible, even if you're choking on it, until you let the sun in. Then you see it's everywhere. As long as we keep shining the light, we have a chance of cleaning it wherever it lands we have to stay vigilant because it's always still in the air nice that's awesome hell yeah my my quote of the week is from the movie almost famous it's from a deleted scene where uh russell the guitarist from uh stillwater played unbelievably by Billy Crudup, is talking to the main character, William, and he's talking to him about art. And he goes, but it's not what you put in, is it? It's what you leave out. Listen to Marvin Gaye, a song like What's Going On. The single woo at the end of the second verse, you know that woo, that single woo? That's what you remember. The silly things, the little woo? That's what you remember.

The silly things, the little things. There's only one, and it makes the song. It's what you leave out. That's rock and roll. Yeah. Cool. You know, I thought about that. Whenever I watch a lot of comedy movies or TV shows,

you can tell that whatever they're setting up as the big joke like the huge thing that's not what i remember it's little character things that they do like it's always kind of like a smaller thing that's that's it's like it's which seems to be more of like a happy accident or something you know and sometimes with that huge bit that they're building up if they hit it with a needle instead of a sledgehammer yeah your brain likes it more it appreciates the restraint and you're like ah yeah they're like you didn't you didn't kill me with it yeah yeah you got that kind of master and control to it yeah yeah um what's your that, dog? There's something to that. Yeah. What's your phrase of the week for getting after it?

Let's put on our jeans. Nice, dude. Let's put them on. I'm wearing them right now. What's your phrase of the week we forget after it, Aaron? Start a revolution. Hey, baby. My quote of the week for getting after it is from Matt Fraser,

the aforementioned CrossFit legend. He says 35 minutes into the Dubai doc that's on Netflix, he says, if you do badass stuff, you don't have to brag. Other people will brag for you and uh i was like dude that made me never want to brag again that was that was some cool shit so i respect a lot of that guy that's awesome yeah yeah he's a beast um and that's it dudes um all right guys good stuff stay safe out there guys yeah stay safe aaron good to see you yeah you too guys