Going Deep with Chad and JT - Ep 145 - Simone Bienne Joins

Episode Date: August 3, 2020

What up stokers! This week , Simone Bienne, joins us on the pod. She's a psychosexual and relationship therapist, we talk small dong shame, being more open when you're kicking it with your gf or dogs, and we also do some fun light physical experiments. Sponsored by Manscaped: Get 20% Off and Free Shipping with the code GODEEP20 at Manscaped.com. If you wanna trim your pubes during a contagion.

okay what's up stokers of stoke nation this is chad kroger coming in with the going deep chat and jt podcast guys before we begin i want to remind you once again that we are brought to you by Manscaped. Manscaped, thank you so much for keeping our trims pubed, for looking after our hogs, for making sure that we're looking fresh and clean. Because we may still be in the Q-teen, but that does not mean you shouldn't stop grooming. Do you think that Manscacape works for women as well yeah for sure i do yeah we've yeah you know the lawnmower i think is you know uh applies to any gender works on male and female hedges yeah good call that's good i like yeah and and and during

coronavirus we've all had a lot more time to do head streaming yeah yeah for sure i've you know i've perfected it that was always my issue i didn't have enough time yeah don't brag have you done any nice shapes um sometimes i'll throw like a message in there oh nice like uh you know i have a girlfriend's you know so I'll be like, what's up? That's nice. Do you ever play Noughts and Crosses? You don't call it that. Tic-tac-toe.

Tic-tac-toe. There we go. Yes. Do I play it? Yeah. Once in a while. But on your, like, on your hedge? No, no, no, no.

I got enough hedge to do it, but no. I can see you doing it. JT, I think you have that in you. That funky fun. Yeah. I'll give it a shot yeah i just you know yeah i should do it i'm gonna do it yeah you yeah who are you gonna do it with oh like whom oh who's gonna so i don't know what you mean exactly so the other person we play on my hedge together yeah oh. Oh, wow. It's got to be someone special. And not only, so here's what I would add in.

Not only somebody special, but somebody, unless you are a complete yogi, but somebody who you know that you're going to win. Otherwise, you're constantly going to be reminded. However, then you could use your manscape, magic, the wonders that sponsor the show, and then just do another little sort of outline. There's beautiful synergy. Yeah. I've never thought about the stakes of the game if you actually do it.

Well, I only just thought about it, and it's clearly what coronavirus is doing to my mind. I clearly think about things a little too much. They normally wouldn't have crossed my mind. Yeah. But you're an intimacy expert. Now, here's the thing. So Chad was saying that he needs a haircut. Right.

Sorry, I'm rattling on. But Chad was saying he needs a haircut. Yeah. And would you trust your girlfriend? And would you trust your new girlfriend? Because you went on a date recently, didn't you? Yeah, yeah. I've been on a date recently.

So would you trust? Would I trust her? Yeah. Yeah, probably. Yeah. To cut your hair? Yeah. This hair?

Because I like doing that. I like throwing it all on the other person. I mean, I like giving them too much trust early on. And then be like, hey, sink or swim? How's it going to go? Because that basically means, how wonderful. You see, I see your strategy. That basically, if you give them too much trust, you know what happens?

He gets to be right. You get to be right. And you're like, see? Yeah, exactly. I knew you'd pick it up. I'm right. And I don't have to be with someone. But what if they drill it?

If they drill it, then you have this perfect, amazing person, and you're going to have to expand that beautiful, amazing heart of yours. Right, yeah. And you're going to have to be like, huh, maybe this is the one. Yeah, it's a roll of the dice. I don't think I could do it. Don't you? That's true.

No, I just... I think we need to see this. It's so much a part of my identity. I don't think I could do it. Don't you? That's true. No, I just... I think we need to see this. It's so much a part of my identity. You know, I need... You know, Jess is my trusted professional. She knows what she's doing, and I don't know. But I would be down for tic-tac-toe in the hedge area,

you know, to build trust. That'd be cool. Now, why do you call it tic-Tac-Toe? Oh, I didn't name it. I don't know. I think because... Why is it called Tic-Tac-Toe? Good point.

Why is it called Tic-Tac-Toe? Because we call it Noughts and Crosses, which, and when I say we, as in I grew up in England and I'm now an American citizen. Oh, congrats. Yeah. Thank you very much. As of last month, right? Yeah.

Yeah. So I'm like, you know, had sex as an American for the first time. Oh, congrats, yeah. Thank you very much. As of last month, right? Yeah, yeah. So I'm like, you know, had sex as an American for the first time. Oh, congrats. Apparently I'm more vocal, confident. I'm just like rocking it. And I'm really working

on the valley girl accent as well. You know, and no, I'm very, very proud to be American. But what was I going to say? Yeah, so in England, they call it noughts and crosses. You know, I feel like British terms often make much more sense than American. Sort of like the metric system makes more sense.

Like our buddy Dan, he told me that a period is called a full stop. Yes, yes, yes. I thought you was gonna yes and i was like yeah a period is a period oh my god i mean can you imagine as a woman and as a teenager growing up in america i just like no wonder there's so much anxiety when it's constantly reading period oh my god what have i got my period? Am I showing? What? It's like, I know it doesn't make much sense, but it's a full stop. Right. It's a full stop. We don't actually have half stops.

Commas aren't called half stops, but that would be fun. He was writing something. He's like, forgive my accent, but he's like, he's like, all right, no, full stop. I was like, what? He's like, full stop. He's like, oh, I was like what he's like he's like full stop i was like he's like oh i was like oh period he's like yeah there's just a lot of confusion there for like two minutes we're kind of just staring i've never heard that before yeah it's it's wild right well it is it's wild it's it's wild to you guys but just how did how did a full stop or how did the end of a sentence be called the same thing as women's menstruation? How is that possible?

And I'm a linguist in the sense of neuro linguistic therapy. So I like really pay attention to the language. Yeah. And I'm like, surely there's some fucking confusion there. But I can't understand what the, I can see how it'd be confusing, but I can't understand. Well, what if we called periods erect, like periods erections? I like that. No, but I don't know what would happen.

It's like, it's like you're in like third grade and they're like, now remember to put an erection at the end of your sentence. Oh, my gosh. I so know what you guys are going to do next. She says, as suddenly your producer, you have got to, I don't know, go to the school board, please. And can we just take out period and add in? It doesn't have to be full stop. That is a good idea. Yeah.

So whenever we have something, whenever we have a word in our mind so um we create a meaning yeah and um it's like if we it's like with this you know coronavirus stuff or i love the way you guys say it which is cutene and what would you see virus yeah the c virus and you said something else the other day which like made me laugh. And I was like, that's how we should be saying it, quite frankly. Thank you for the one. But, oh, my pleasure. My pleasure. But it's whenever we have a word and we have that meaning and then we see that word.

So if we think, right, here's, let me show rather than tell. Right, here's, let me show rather than tell. So, okay, we're going to watch and we know that, you know, you love a bit of Melania. So, Chad, when you think of, thank you, my love. Oh, my God. If I didn't feel clumsy before, I do now. If, when you think of the word Melania, what comes out for you?

You will pretend your girlfriend isn't listening. Yeah. Good fashion sense, a sultry look, fire hair, great brain. She's a genius. She ordered a genius visa. Yeah. She's a genius. She was awarded a genius visa. Yeah.

She what? She was awarded a genius visa. I'll tell you. Really? Mm-hmm. That's awesome. White buffalo. You know,

I get aggressive because I think about Donald. Yeah, it must be really hard for you. But can you see how his body's moving and he's in a bit of a nice happy state? I was worried I was forcing it, but I don't know. So if you think of the word... This is probably a little less socially important, but we were going to try and do that with hangovers. Just try to change the words so that maybe that could lessen the awfulness of it.

Because we felt like if you could call it joyful suffering instead of a hangover or something like that, that that could give it meaning that would make it less painful to go through. That's brilliant. Sure. That's brilliant. Sure. That's brilliant.

So you keep the full stop the same. You keep the full stop. Our hearts are in the right place. I know. I love it. I love it. Look, I'm no genius when it comes to women, but I'm here to help. All right.

Whatever. Whatever anybody needs. I fully support it. Name it whatever you want. I like it. Yeah. The care is there. I like joyful suffering. There's a candle see i'm

gonna have to buy you my candle now um this wonderful shop in uh downtown la called it's called do not enter and it's a really cool shop and they have a candle there with beautiful scents and across it says anti-hangover oh yeah it helps so i haven't i haven't got it i got the one which said i think it was like anti-asshole um anti-bitches just for friends presence so are you are you a practicing sex therapist yes so you have like clients come into an office and they they run their issues by you? Yeah. So I started off as a sex therapist.

So I started off as a news anchor, actually, in the UK. And sort of had a career in media and then was like, oh, I want something more. And because I had these wonderfully fucked up relationships. How were they wonderfully fucked up? Oh, they these like wonderfully fucked up relationships How were they wonderfully fucked up? Oh they were really wonderfully fucked up I married a con man who was wanted by the FBI in two states so they were wonderfully fucked up Was he a lot of fun though?

Very intelligent but no not so much fun. Right. Although I would have definitely given him. Yeah I didn't mean to make light of it I'm sorry. Oh no no no do it's a he's dead now shit oh shit he passed yeah but it's it's um well perhaps yeah yeah he's he's no longer here and it wasn't me just just saying um so yeah so so after a series of uh bad relationships and i kind of fell into sex therapy um because the training I was doing was both sex and relationships.

And I was like, I can't talk about sex. I'm British. Oh, my God. And then I loved it. They were like, well, can you talk about emotions and sex? And so that's how I started off. And that was at the, when I say at the beginning of my career, the beginning of my sort of therapy, you know, sort of helping career. And yeah, and it was, it was great. I mean, it is absolutely fascinating. Talking to my love of men beforehand was great. My love of men. Men, well.

I don't know, it just cracks me up for some reason. Well, because you know what? I think most people, I would imagine, I guess because my assumption was that someone would have the opposite reaction. Like the more intimately you got to know men, I would think you would dislike them more. Oh, no, they're fabulous. So I'm just like, so it actually makes me joyful that you got to know men more and then you were actually like, no, they're actually better than I thought. Yeah. Oh, they are. They are sweethearts, which is like a broad, you know, a broad generalization.

But it's really interesting. Men are, men are actually, and sorry, ladies, ladies are, women are fabulous in so many ways. But actually, men can be much more romantic than women. So ask a man and a woman and a couple, like, oh, you know, when did you first meet? And I'm just going to do a little teaser earlier on because I've decided to do a little quiz for you both so that we can all find out about you. Oh, sweet. Oh, nice. Maybe kind of like one of the questions but when you ask them you know

you know what were you wearing when you first met the man the man will remember what she's wearing and i was stunned by that and the woman would be like uh hold on i don't even know what year it is and it's the same in i think i've got some kind of numbered you know dyslexia but that's my excuse because you can't say anything then can you uh just like how long have you been married i don't know long time right uh but yeah i would say that my husband is is much sweeter than i am oh no much consistently more consistently sweeter you know i i've always sort of and maybe it's like a it's been a like do you think it's been a trend in the past like 30 to 40 years that men have gotten a little bit more romantic and it's like a little role reversal or do you think it's always kind of been that way

it's a really interesting question um i think men are expressing it more yeah um and you know how how i work now is i it's moved beyond just sex though sex is a sort of very important part and beyond just relationships and it it goes to sort of like the you know the the bigger picture of this this whole thing of like this inner greatness that we have like we are born we are love we are complete and utter love and i know it's like a bit woo-woo but it isn't it's it's anyway wonderful and all such things and i think men have it if i it's interesting having um having worked in london um what was interesting is in lond, it's so cosmopolitan. So, you know, I would see, you know, people from India and Sweden and Australia and New Zealand and America, Japan, you know, across the range, you know, and English guys.

And then working in America, seeing so many American men, it's really, really interesting with how I think in America there has been a, well, there is a more of a pressure in comparison to England to be. Macho. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah. It's soul crushing. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. It's tough. And it's, it's, that's, sorry it's tough yeah and and and it's it's that's sorry oh no yeah yeah it's um i feel like a lot of the people we talk to and and for myself too it's like a lot of young men have this like these fantasies of like big romantic you you know, like, um, occurrences out of the right word, but like they just have these fantasies of romance and a lot of them act out on it, you know, early on, but then I feel like they're kind of conditioned by society to be like, no, you gotta be, you gotta be alpha, you know? So, because if you're too romantic, if you're too into them, you'll scare them away. So it's like, uh, yeah, I feel like it's kind of beaten out of them a little bit yeah which is which is bs and then and then a whole load of

other issues come up because then you're basically saying to somebody don't be you and that's it don't be you don't be creative because what is what is love it's creativity that's how like that is a nice way to describe that's like our our essence that is what it feels like too when you get inspired by someone else and you start doing things to make them happy that are outside of like normal thoughts you would have like you're broadening your your thinking in a way and then you're like oh i can't believe i and it feels good to come up with a cute idea for somebody else like i can't believe i came up with that like i'm a cute person and then you feel better about yourself. Yeah. Yeah.

And you are a cute person. Right. You know, and. Come on. Well, you know, you are. What, what, what. Do you, and do you, do you share how old you are? Yeah, I'm 32.

29. Right. Okay. I was, I was roughly right. I definitely thought 20s, late 20s. Okay. I was roughly right. I definitely thought 20s, late 20s. And so do you think that your generation of men are struggling with what you're talking about, as in struggling with sort of showing themselves? I think totally. I think it's, um,

yeah, I think, I think we're just like, we learn, you know, because of the way society is or whatever, we're just kind of like, I feel like men are kind of like put in this position where they have to play it too cool,

you know, so like they aren't being themselves and it's just like, uh, yeah. So I, yeah, I think, I think there has to be some kind of,

uh, meet them in the middle somewhere. I don't really, yeah. And I think, I think too, I was just exposed to too much like theorizing on how to like be good with women. You know what I mean? too, I was just exposed to too much, like, theorizing on how to, like, be good with women. You know what I mean?

Like, since I was in, like, seventh grade, I remember, like, my friends and I were always consuming media that was, like, telling us. That's right. Like, porn. Yeah, porn. But also, like, the game, that book by, like, Neil Strauss on, like, how to pick up women. Oh, yeah. That was, like, super, like, kind of, you know, and he was critiquing it too. But most people bought it as more of like a manual rather than like a critique.

And like, you know, we all try to be ironic when we read it and be like, oh, no, I'm just reading it as like. But it did. It does slip into your thinking. And then you're trying to like be someone you're not because you think it'll make you more successful at something. you're trying to like be someone you're not because you think it'll make you more successful at something. And I think that's like, uh, I don't know.

It can, it can kind of be, uh, it can make you isolate from yourself in a way. Cause you're like, you're not, you're not really learning to be yourself. You're learning to like try and like win at something.

Yeah. Yeah. You see, you're such a deep soul, isn't he? You're, you're, and,

and oh my gosh, how have you not got like 20 women you've got to share this with women you've got to share you with the world well but then you'd start telling women that and then you that becomes a way to it's everything turns into like a thing that you're using at some point sometimes right what do you mean a thing that you're using well like because then you can like i don't know i'm because i sometimes like so i'll be i'll say something like that and then someone's like oh that's like a likable thing that you said and then i'm like okay so i should say that thing more and then so the idea of me

being soulful or self-aware about my like earlier conditioning then becomes something that i can get stuff out of does that make sense yeah. And that then, once you have that thought, then you can go, oh, hold on a minute. I'm thinking about the other. And it's interesting because if you take it away from yourself and do it only as a way to please. Right. Then that's something if you go oh gosh that's nice she really likes that kind of um that kind of thinking that kind of sort of expansion of perception and thinking outside of the box right and that's like then you can talk about other things in the same way. So that then becomes really nice. And, oh, wow, if she likes it, then you can go, oh, wow, that's cool.

So we really connect in how we think versus how I need to be. And so then that's where you should focus. Focus on the connection. Yeah, focus on the connection you focus yeah focus on the connection and and keep like keep your like um you appreciate it in yourself i was always told i was a people pleaser and i dealt with that a lot i struggled with that a lot in like college and early 20s um where it sort of manifested into a little bit of a drinking problem which i'm like kind of like you know i still booze i still rage but you know i got it

under control anyways uh so but it's interesting because what do we do when we drink what we do is we try and get beyond that barrier yeah and the idea is we get more relaxed yeah in theory yeah well for me i was accessing a person that i wanted to be you know because i was a little bit more outgoing and extroverted and and and crazy you know and so and then i i was super shy as a kid so So it was like, yeah, it was a, and then, yeah, there's, then you read these things in your, in your, like your early twenties, you'd be like, you gotta be cool. You gotta be like, have like this steel wall up. And it's just like, it was so confusing. Cause I'm like, cause like I would talk to JT about it and he's like, I was like, oh,

I need to be more assertive. And he's like, he's like, but I like that you're nice. And I'm like, yeah, I like being be more assertive. And he's like, but I like that you're nice. And I'm like, yeah, I like being nice too. Like, why is this an issue? You know? When you were still super productive and like you were like, yeah. I don't know.

It seemed like you had all the qualities of an assertive person without the kind of bullying one. So I was like, yeah, I thought it was kind of like the perfect. Oh, thank you. It still is. Yeah, the perfect thing. Yeah. Yeah. I appreciate that but yeah yeah it is it is confusing i think for men who are just like they want to be nice and

they're like no you got to be like yeah yeah and i can't i can't imagine what well i can as a woman um uh as an obviously as a non-man i can't imagine what that's like because that it's that's the you said it so well earlier it's soul crushing you know to be told you have to be a certain way and you have to you know treat women like this and be macho and, big boys don't cry and all this. And it's, no, the real men are those that are strong enough to be sensitive, vulnerable, and courageous. You know, that's the hero's journey. I love the hero's journey. Oh, so amazing, isn't it? But then I think i think too like in

my life where like because i was kind of a bully and stuff and i i had a tendency to were you yeah and i would i would like dominate people like verbally or something or be aggressive and then it it made people not like me like i would dominate them and i'd feel bad and everybody else in the room would feel bad and i made a conscious choice maybe when I was like 23, I was like, what if I was just nice to everybody? And then my whole life got better. Like, like my relationships got better with like even my family and stuff like that. And I was like, this is, and it's, it's been hard to maintain. I don't think I'm as good at it now as I was then, but it was like, it changed everything when I just started being nice. Like people really just wanted to be around me more. And maybe that's the people pleasing part of myself,

but it didn't feel like that. because I'm very extroverted. I want people around. So it just felt like they felt safe with me. And that was like a good thing. And how amazing is that to make people feel or help people feel safe? It's the best. Yeah. And that is who we are at our core.

All the other stuff is it's BS. And we think about sort of when we go to school and what we do. We're not taught about the mind and the endless possibilities and like the power of the heart and the, you know, we are love and the strength of kindness and all that stuff. No, no, no, no, no. It's like conditioning, conditioning, conditioning. And, no, it's not good. And this is why during, like, you know, the Q-tine. Q-teen.

Q-teen. There we go. Q-teen. I was about to say Q-tips. During Q-tip time. That sounds more fun, actually. During this time, it's such an opportunity for us all to, because shit comes up. When there is stuff going on out there where there's so much uncertainty,

it's interesting, you know, when people say, oh, my God, the virus, it's making me go crazy. Well, what it's doing is it's triggering. It's revealing. Yeah, stuff in us. So we have this amazing opportunity to go, okay right there's anxiety here there's fear here okay what can i do with this and it isn't to do it's bigger than the coronavirus because if we look at sort of like okay this fear in us this isn't brought on by the coronavirus fully.

And of course, there is the situation, which is enormously difficult. But this is how we, you know, kind of what we decided when we were very young and how we can deal, like how capable, how competent we believe we are. And as human beings we god infinite potential infinite potential i just wish we'll get on to the beef bit later i'll we'll talk about so how much of you how much do you think like the bedrock of the kind of way that you do therapy is just convincing people to believe in like the best version of themselves they okay can we can, can we, can I show, not tell? Yeah, please. Okay, so let's, okay, are you both okay to stand up? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Okay, so if you both stand up.

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All right, later. And what I want you to do, well, I'll actually have to stand up to write. Okay, so when you stand up Okay, nice and energized right and if we if we all face the same way so Okay, there we go. There's a while social distance. How do I get in? Like that Yeah, maybe stay close to the mic too oh yeah so oh thank you

that would be where the camera is right okay so we're all facing the same way so what we want to do is and this is like the experience of well i won't unpack it first but this is just answering a question of of what's possible. So, right. So point sort of straight ahead. And anyone can do this at home as well. So you're pointing straight ahead. And what we're going to do is we're going to turn around, but we're going to keep our hips facing. So we don't, we're not going like that.

Yeah. We're keeping our hips facing the front. facing the front and and if you just watch me first of all then so turning round and we're turning round as far as we can possibly go keeping the hips to the front as far as we can go making sure is the absolute best and once you've seen where it is keep an eye on that know Know where it is. And then come back. Okay. Did you surprise yourself at how far you could go? Yeah.

Yeah? Yeah. Feel good? Yeah. Okay. So, why are you giggling? I love it. Okay.

So, that's that. So, that's the conscious mind. So, now let's get into the magic so now what I want you to do is again facing the look my boiler suit's nearly falling off jailbird right so now so still facing the front now what I want you to do is now I just like adding a little bit, a little bit more sort of like big smile on our face. Whenever we smile, we get beautiful signals to our brain that we're happy. So giving a smile on our face. And I want you to just close your eyes for a minute. You can giggle through it is fine. So closing and that's joy, which is wonderful.

own so closing and that's joy which is wonderful so um i want you to imagine going that place on the wall yeah can you see the place on the wall where you just pointed at both of you yes yeah yeah perfect okay so as you see that place on the wall now i want you to imagine and see yourself going even further and brighten those colors and just see yourself going even further, even though what you just said was that was the best and you surprised yourself. Okay, so now open your eyes and now do it again. You're exactly the same.

Surprise? Yeah, I got pretty far. I got pretty deep. I had about 15 degrees, I think. I was over there. I started there. I went from this side of the television to that side. And that's about a 38-inch television.

Dude. Isn't that cool? Very cool. And that is the power of the mind. So we tell ourselves, I can do this. And it can take a lot of effort for us to go, oh, okay, hold on. Yeah, no, let me get my best self there. I can do it. What we're doing is just let's just puck the logical thinking

and just go into that magical, you know, that magical place, you know, where you said earlier about like that, that essence, that real self and just look at the infinite possibilities.

So that's the first time you did it. So now imagine what you can do when you practice. I mean, I'm not saying you have to practice that and that's going first time you did it so now imagine what you can do when you practice i mean i was saying you have to practice that and that's going to be your party trick uh but just imagine and so that's how we use the mind and so so to answer your question and your great question i i i sort of see myself as you know an an inner greatness coach because it's all about the inner greatness because start off inside then it it projects outside and then um i help people with it's it's i like to say i was working 5d because we're we're five dimensional that was impressive that's like me when i when i'm

if i go out and slam the door and wanting to be dramatic and then it just like goes. Not that I ever do that because I'm so zen. It's like once a month. Period. What's my new word? Fiesta. On the fiesta. So, but the thing is, right, we need a new word when women go into menopause because otherwise the fiesta stops.

And then it's like, shit, our life's really over. Right. After party. After party. After party. Oh, the siesta? Yeah, or after party. Yeah.

Love it. Yeah. Siesta. After party. Yeah, but it's not a rest. Or, yes, Studio 54. Oh, nice. Nice. Oh, nice. Nice.

Yeah, glamorous. Yeah, and that can be sort of like around about the age as well. It's just perfect. I didn't even consciously think about that, but after I said it, I was like, that was impressive. Nice word. There we go. And that's what you're doing, as in, oh, my gosh, I didn't consciously think about it. You're just like, we're just unlocking ourselves.

And that's just what's amazing and beautiful. So how do you talk to a man about his dick? No. Well, small dong shame will come up for sure. But I guess. So how do you how do you help that to translate? What do you sort of tell a patient or someone you're seeing? A client, sorry.

No, no, it's okay. What do you sort of tell a client to help them to further unlock that? I guess that's a really general question, but like what's sort of the method to so to realize that so it's um it's the it's like a bliss system so biohacking love intuitive intelligence it's got two eyes and self-success and um it's all about when i talk about sort of biohacking it's you know a bit of a sort of buzzword but it's it's about how we work with our system that we have and we use and i'm i'm sort of trained and study in ancient techniques as well as modern techniques of how to using our breath how we use our breath to get our systems in alignment how we get to the heart through you know numerous techniques how we use our mind how we use our

physiology so again if i do a show not tell so if we think of ourselves in 5d so with five dimensional uh so body, breath. And that's why the small dong shame, which we can talk about, not saying that you've written in to me. And that's how we know each other. Joking. The small dong shame. It was me. So the body.

At the end of the email it's like, this is not chat. Yeah. Body, breath, mind. And the mind has different parts. The intellect, which is we get stuck in the intellect. We can get stuck in the memory. That sort of causes the problem. The heart with a small H, which is like, you know, the physical heart.

which is like uh you know the physical heart but sort of also what we call sort of you know those those intuition that that first you know aspect of creativity and then the i call the the quantum self so the sort of the consciousness the essence that sort of aspect and that we don't go from here to here but we've got to think of ourselves as five-dimensional we can think how did you come up with those dimensions um from uh sadly not being um what was i going to say not being god um i didn't come with it the um ancient so vedanta is an ancient indian system so there they talk about sort of the seven sort of experiences of our lives in yoga. Let's just say yoga. Basically, you've got body and the breath.

And it isn't the American yoga that we think of. It's very much sort of how yoga was or sort of when, you know, what I learned from India so well is the body is just one aspect of it. The only reason that we're doing is sort of certain positions is because it helps to create a calm mind. And so how do we use our breath? We're using our breath in particular way and we can get into these altered states. So I just, having learned, having trained in and being a trainer of NLP, which is just so brilliant with regards to learning and understanding the mind, and then combining it with, you know, my love and interest of ancient wisdom, you know, from the Vedanta system, particularly in India.

I've sort of combined the two and so if we and and sort of like working with people and seeing what works so the body which we know we are the body the breath and that's very much from the you know Indian system yoga the yoga philosophy the yoga science the mind and how we use the mind here is is different but what what's very it's like chad when you said about patience so for me as as soon as we talk about like i like you know having patience with the ce and not with a ts because to me this this isn't, this isn't, if somebody's like, if somebody's depressed,

I'm not, Oh gosh, okay. You have chronic, you know, this is, you know, what does the DSM 20,000 and 70?

I mean, we don't have the DSM in the UK, but here, you know, the DSM, what does that say? No, it's,

that's just another label. And I want to get, I think labels, labels can be useful. It can give an intellectual understanding. But it can be a pathology. And so what is a pathology? Well, somebody can be depressed. Well, okay, that's an energy issue. It's how they're thinking.

It's how they're using their mind with the pictures in their mind it's what they've decided it's their conditioning and we know that we can you know in in many cases you know break through that when we learn how to work with our five dimensions and align them but if we just work with an intellectual, it's like if you break an arm and, oh, you've broken your arm. Oh, shit, that's why my arm hurts. Well, then what? Is your arm healed? Does it stop hurting? Right.

So you want to give them like a new language rubric that will like basically make their mind picture a a better world yeah help them so it's it's all about yeah it's all about um them being the creator so not just being part of creation being don't take the words that other people gave you come up with your own yeah yeah exactly exactly and also how the mind program like how we how we think. If somebody had said, it's so, so interesting. So if you change, okay, so let's do another show, not tell. So if we, is there something that you say to yourself when, both of you, where you get frustrated or you can be like, oh, man, and say something in a critical voice. Yeah, what do I say? To myself?

Like talking to myself? Yeah. You sort of hear yourself. Yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah. Yeah? Do you want me to say it? Yeah.

Yeah, what do I say? I don't get mad that often. That's good. It's a good brain. That's great. That's a good brain, though. I feel like... If something's not going to be like, oh, this fucking thing. Right, okay, this fucking thing.

Right. So as you say, and what do you say? Just, and it can be anything. Like when I'm being hard on myself? Yeah. I say like, oh, you're not good enough, or you're too obsessed with winning. Okay, just start with one. Okay.

Yeah. Oh, you're not good enough. you're too obsessed okay just start with one okay yeah oh you're not good enough so if you say that to yourself yeah so if you do that now yeah you're not good enough okay and and as you as you experience that where are you experiencing it both of you and you're like oh this fucking thing i sort of experience it like um i guess in here a little bit east and west of my chest i like that east and west yeah i love that just south of the nipples yeah exactly yeah did wait did i did is this when i'm like frustrated or like or like when i'm down on myself so it can be anything just anything when you're sort of like basically creating that stress response in your body. So you're creating that stress response

where it's like, ah, yeah. And you can feel it. You can feel that tension. Both of you can feel the tension. Vijayati, south of the nipples. Always south of the nipples. East, west. East, west and south.

um east west east west and south um and so now what i want you to do is if you say those words and and like imagine who's who is like a cartoon character that makes you laugh it's a cartoon character homer simpson home. Perfect. And JT for you. Yeah, the cop. The cop from The Simpsons. What was his name? Oh, Chief Wiggum? Yeah, he always makes me laugh. Yeah, I do.

Chief Wiggum. Right, so now, if you say the same thing in Chief Wiggum's voice, and you say that in Homer Simpson's voice. It's really sad. You're not good enough. I think I've seen those characters. The Simpsons is good

that way where those characters have probably had those moments. Yeah, my mind just goes to it's pretty much the same as don't yeah yeah yeah exactly exactly right and and so you change you change the voice yeah um and you change the sound and it changes the meaning right it's interesting yeah yeah because we have a we have a tendency to to hate on ourselves the most too right yeah like if you sometimes i'll think back on mistakes i made when i was in like my teen years and i'll be like all right well what would you say if you could talk to that kid i'd be like i'd like rub the back of his neck and i'd be like just relax bro you know what i mean i'd be i could

have i can have compassion for that person when i'm distanced from it yeah and that's really important because that is that is your essence like you are you're full of love right it's like and and full of kindness the the hard bit it's like we talk about change and change being difficult well not changing is difficult because actually it's this all this other stuff is not us have you ever had a patient other you're just like this guy's just a scumbag yes and then so did you was it the same the door oh really oh yeah no no oh you said look you can't fix you bro yeah really yeah oh yeah i've had like this is like a sociopath just unable to feel empathy for others? Or what was it? Yeah. And there are some, I mean, I've had a few because not recently, since I've gone sort of more into sort of like a new space and doing more coaching than just therapy. Right.

than just through therapy right um but yeah i mean it's it's pretty difficult when you hear somebody talking about like an elderly dog and the girlfriend looking after this like really old dog and the guy i mean this is like you know let's pretend it was a cat or a dog, I mean, whatever, but the guy just going, I mean, I agree to move in because the dog is 15 and I thought the dog would have been dead now and she has just been feeding it herbal remedies and it keeps living. And I'm like, there's enough love to go around for everyone. It's okay.

And just like, and you're just like, But that's the most evil guy you had he just hated the dog but it's i thought you would have like a serial killer so i had oh i did have someone that was close about but he arrested every i know he had been okay um uh you, a few times. And I wouldn't work with somebody if, like, everybody, you were talking about darkness earlier on. And even, like, even in the darkness, there is a glimmer of light. And I won't work with somebody. There's no way that I'll work with somebody if I don't like them. Right.

if I don't like them. I just, I, it's for me now, sort of as a coach, because there is, there is so much intimacy and like I'm on the journey with them and they're in my head and, and yeah. So you think about your patients

when you're not with them and stuff? Oh God, yes, often. Although, and remember I was saying I call them clients sorry because no no no don't apologize don't apologize that it's they are clients just like i'm a client of tarjay you know where i go in there as a you know or i mean i know you say customer but in the sense of the it's we are we're co-creating something at the model that we have we um we very much pathologize and so in it's interesting i remember drew saying to me dr drew saying he was like god so what does

therapist mean we don't have therapist here we don't have a psychotherapist here and i was like well yeah yeah in the uk you know it's like when we talk about feelings and stuff and he was like oh here we have a psychologist and and it's interesting because in the uk psychologists are um you know they deal sort of a bit more with like neuroscientists or something like that. OCD and yeah. And, you know, more sort of like specific targeted, you know, issues. And and we'll have general therapists, you know, and just be talking about feelings. And it won't be like, oh, my God.

OK, you have this label. You have this label. You have this label. Oh, great. I've got a label. Now I can continue being, I have now a new identity. I've now have confirmation that, you know, whether it's like, I am codependent, I am this, I am that. I just, if we talk about, you know, beef, that's one of my beefs. And it's,

I have to be sort of sensitive here, because are different many many different ways and if something is useful for somebody then it's useful for somebody and that's great but sometimes like the identity let's say somebody says oh i've been codependent for 20 years and i'm in a happy healthy relationship so i.e they're no longer codependent and they really are in a healthy relationship it's like well you're not a really fucking good codependent then so why go right we're a little label they're a little yeah you know i got diagnosed bipolar and at the time i loved it i was so happy to be diagnosed with something i just described my life to this psychiatrist and he was like, you're bipolar. And I was coming off a lot of drug and

webcam porn addiction craziness. And I was, I cried out of happiness when he told me, cause I was like, Oh my God, finally an answer. But I got medicated on Seroquel. Um, and you know, guys don't take that, you know, talk to a doctor. I worry about like influencing people or something, but everyone, I hope everyone gets it that everyone everyone's different. And I think it worked for me. Like I used to do crazy shit. I'd like drive on the freeway doing like a hundred and like masturbate at the same time. I haven't done that since I got Medicaid. Yeah. So when people ask me like, does the medicine work? I'm like, well, I used to do that and now I don't. So I think it works. But I also, I, my doctor now, and I've seen a couple of psychiatrists, none of them think I'm

bipolar. They think I have anxiety disorder now. And the doctor who diagnosed me bipolar has actually kind of walked it back after getting to know me for a couple of years. So I feel weird because I told people for a while I was bipolar and I believed it. I didn't think I had like an intense case of it. I thought I had like a dusting of it, I guess I would say. But now I don't think I'm that anymore. Now I'm kind of convinced I have some kind of extra thing going on, but that they don't know what it is yet. And maybe 50 years from now, or 100 years from now, they'll have like a more exact definition. But for now, I'm kind of in between things. But I know the medicine and the therapy, it works for me. But I hear what you're saying with like these labels

It's like, you know, we probably You know, I've had people who've gone through breakups or like I'm codependent. I'm like, I don't know if you're codependent I think you were just in a bad relationship You know what? I mean, it's like and and for you is interesting because I think where we can get stuck is if the label sticks and or you look if if if if if we if we have a label and we use that label as a way to not go beyond oh you think that do you think the labels can be limiting yeah now i want to be

careful with you know something like bipolar but let's let's say like add yeah let's say i was so pumped when i got diagnosed add and i don't even think i am i mean this is hilarious because you just seem like yeah yeah man yeah it's like so chill well my test was like he's like he had like a picture of a room and he's like point out all the things there and i forgot what a windowsill was i was like oh crap and he's like dude you're add oh ADD. Oh, that's good. Dude, I have to say that after my test, they're like, you didn't test for ADD? They gave me like a six-hour test, and they're like, but anyone who's met you knows you're ADD. Yeah.

And it's so interesting because if we think about what our brain is given, and I'm going to get the numbers wrong because i know that they've increased but um per second oh god i am going to get the number oh yes no when when the study was first done um think how many like name a number of how many bits of information your your brain gets bombarded with per second it's gotta be in the thousands how do but how do i how do i define what a bit is i guess that's what i'm sure so imagine but i don't want to get bogged down no it's okay so imagine a bit of information so just just forget the bits of information so just just just go with it ask your your unconscious mind. All right, bro. How many bits are you taking in? I'm taking in 3,000.

Right. So you're basically in the thousands. How many did you say? I said thousands. Yeah. Okay, cool. So you're like, I mean, and that's pretty high. Our brains are running parallel.

That's nice, dude. Yeah. Yeah. It's because you love each other. Yeah. We were talking to a journalist last week because of our viral thing she's like are you together like yeah i don't know it's funny that the yeah it was sweet i was like i was like no but like yeah we jacuzzi yeah i mean i would

but i we don't but like i'm you know, if Chad wanted to, I'm whatever. And he has a girlfriend, you know, and, yeah. But we're not. But maybe you can play tic-tac-toe or whatever is cool to them. Oh, yeah. Maybe that would be a bit weird. But anyway, back to the bits of information. Plus, we've got to work together, too, you know.

You start bringing in that other stuff. Stuff gets complicated. Yeah. Once you start tic-tac-toeing the hedges, that's when the partnership just falls apart. So when the test was first done, I think it was in 2006 or something like that, it was one to two million bits of information that our brains scan. How much? One to two million.

Wow. So about two million. That sounds about right. Two million. Now, that was in 2006. Now imagine, so probably around 11 million bits of information of stimulation that we have to sift through before we go, oh, okay, hold on. Yes, I recognize that. So that weight reminds me of a gym I went to in, I don't know, 230 BC.

Right. I really don't go to gyms. Or, like, you two remind me of, you know, two amazing legends. Ah, okay, great. Oh, dude, nice. So I'll take that piece of information. Back at you. So then, like, imagine now, like, that no wonder people have got ADD.

And what are we doing? Because, well, are we focusing on breath? Are we like, no, we're like, ah, social media, this, this, this, this, this, this, this. And this is why it's interesting about coronavirus, like having the sudden stop where it's like, whoa, okay, hold on a minute. And I don't know about, have you found in the uncertainty and anxiety and have you found pleasure in, I was going to say pleasure in small things and then, you know, I don't want to like yeah sure mention any dongs have you found sort of sim in simple things that you normally wouldn't have found pleasure in

um yeah i guess i mean i've tried to disconnect a little bit you know actively like going on walks and stuff a better appreciation for walks you know walking on bare walking barefoot in the park trying some grounding amazing yeah amazing whenever i we we had some stuff that was like we were just like had a lot of i had a lot of anxiety before it i just i walked barefoot in the park and it I did really feel just a relaxation come over me. This is the best. How beautiful. Yeah.

It's so good. And then paddling out in the ocean, we had another thing. We've had a lot of anxiety. It's just big things that stress me out. So I went paddling out and just paddled from my lifeguard tower to lifeguard tower i felt great yeah how lovely simple movement yeah yeah yeah and and and so it's it's that wonderful sort of reset where go back to the beginning where we were talking about like really connecting with a just a slower, newer, different part where we've had to and are continuing to deal with such uncertainty.

And where we have awoken to the idea of, oh, hold on a minute. I've been pretending that there are things that are certain. And now suddenly it's like really in our face. So it's like, okay, we have to deal with this. And so it's this, I mean, it's amazing. It's like, it's literally like being on this. When I say it's amazing, I mean, it is an opportunity. And it's, well, it's unprecedented and such a difficult situation

but with it imagine what we can learn from this about ourselves and like who we really are yeah it's um one thing that's been my mom sent me a cartoon, like a Dilbert cartoon about the quarantine. And the guy's like, how was your quarantine? And the guy's like, best time of my life. And the other guy's like, I didn't want to be the first to say it. But anyways, so we had this big project that we were working towards, like dream level project. And then coronavirus towards like dream level project and then coronavirus hit

rep like two weeks before so but it was kind of it was such like a blessing because it helped to re you know i sort of was like you know especially you're just looking forward to like okay these things once i get these things it's like yeah you find like like i'm pretty happy but you find like more happiness like that's when i'll be truly like fully happy you know and then when you have something like this come along it's such a i've found it to be such a blessing because it's like you reevaluate you're like oh it's made me sort of look inwards and just be like no it's to remember that it's the journey, you know, and it's just like learning and having fun and moment to moment and not so focused on the results. So and and when we're focused on the results that that drives anxiety.

Yeah. Yeah. And which is really interesting because we kind of taught and even in sort of coaching i've you know where it's like oh what's the goal what's the goal what's the goal focus on the goal yeah and it's like ah and actually that can drive if we're so focused on the goal yeah and that can lead to um anxiety overwhelm yeah yeah it's it's i have a reminder in my phone just like have fun oh because yeah i'm so like goal oriented where I'm just like, no, just have fun today. But it's good to remember that. But it can be tough. Yeah, absolutely.

And especially, I mean, it's like, who is it? I can't remember. A girlfriend of mine was like, oh, God, dream, you know, Corona dream crusher. And and yeah, like when you it's it's that whole thing of. Well, I don't know. I mean, I can't pretend to I can't pretend to understand it. say that i believe for you too and especially how you're talking about it that this is going to set you up because as in in life and especially in your industry there are you know left turns all the time and and i remember a very good friend of mine you know um and i'm

sure he won't mind me saying dr drew sort of oh my gosh the stories he has told me where he's literally been on set and cameras have been rolling and then it's like oh yeah oh no we've given it to blah blah blah and he's like oh good i've just been initiated into hollywood wonderful and you hear about whether it's like i heard jim carrey talking the other day and i can't remember what he said and where was he interviewed it was on sort of one of the late night shows and he he just it's interesting i mean you i don't know i think of jim carrey is like oh sure he's the funny guy and he's talented and he he just it's interesting i mean i don't know i think of jim carrey is like oh sure he's the funny guy and he's talented and he's this and and he just he just is like yeah when life

has given me knocks and boy has life given me knocks and then he said and every time i think about my dad and his dad has passed every time i think about my dad like i well up i cry and it was just so beautiful and lovely and so my point being i'm sort of going off on a tangent my point being that through these experiences and you guys know this and i've heard you talk about it so i'm just mirroring back what you're saying it is this is going to make you stronger because it's like, OK, we we dealt with that. And please, God, anything in the future, there's going to be things that fly in the direction that you want. And like in India, they they I'm going to do the accent. I'm half Indian. I'm allowed to. And I'm I'm my wonderful teacher.

They're one of my teachers, Dr. Risha. Expectisha expectations reduce joy and it's so true like we think and we expect and it's like we we get happy when our expectations are what we want them to be and then we get pissed off when they're not and hold on a minute we don't know what's going to happen in the next second the next millisecond let alone you know when there are so many different moving parts and and it is brutal when things like when you have a dream and it's like whoa when something is so out of your control and then you're holding on to okay right like what is this bringing up in me? Yeah. And how you can use that. And it's so interesting,

like we were talking about the hero's journey, and I use that a lot in my work as well. Like when you get, you know, that test and that challenge and you get past that, then, wow, what happens? You return, you come back to tell the tale. And then when you get the bigger dream, because this is one dream, and then you get the bigger dream, and then the bigger dream, and the bigger dream, it sets you up. I listened to Conan the other day.

And do you ever, I mean, he's like a comedy great, right? Yeah, sure. Yeah. And I listened to him and it was so interesting. He was talking about when he was a writer. Who is it? He was. That's right.

He was talking with he was interviewing Tom Hanks. And yeah. And it was a charm offensive right there. Yeah. Yeah. Definitely worth like looking at because it was so interesting because conan there tom hanks was saying and this is something extraordinary tom hanks at the beginning sort of you know when conan was there they met however many years ago and conan was a writer on snsnl and before he had

the talk show and he said the pressure to come up with a bit to come up with you know whatever they you know a segment bit right and he says the other writers have come up with it and he hadn't come up with anything and he said it is just that that sickening awful pressure where it just like how he was describing it i was like oh my god hold on a minute this is conan o'brien who is like we know we now know decades later you know has been so brilliantly successful oh hold on a minute he still has you know or he you know especially when he's learning had that like intense anxiety and oh shit and and he was supposed to be doing something with tom uh with tom hanks and and so it's what we can do really

well as humans is think that we're the only one that has anxiety or going right through this certain thing where it's, this is like all part of our learning. And especially like when you were talking about, so I know I'm sort of going on about like just when you were saying about sort of the COVID, you know, when COVID hit, when you were talking about like, especially when it's the first one. So imagine Dr. Drew when he's, you know, had this amazing career or Conan O'Brien. I keep calling him Conan. It is Conan O'Brien. Yeah. But, you know, how like somebody so great and Tom Hanks as well.

So Tom Hanks, I'm thinking we'd go in there Saturday night live, rock it, you know, do the Tom Hanks thing. He was there with the writers like throughout the night, sleeping on the floor. You know, so there's Tom Hanks there, like, really, you know, really making sure that, like, he could put in his all. And the point being is people, you know, we can think that people. Have it easier. Yeah. But it's hard for everybody. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Especially when they care. And when we're growing and when we want to learn and when we want to be our best. Yeah. Yeah. So. Yeah, it's true.

Do you want to do? Should we do? So should we do? Let's do your questions. Yeah. And then we'll do our questions quick, and we'll just have to cruise through the beefs, babes, and legends quickly. What do you want to do first?

Because this is your... No, no, let's do your questions, and then we'll transition. Okay. So, I sort of feel like we need some background music, but it's fine. I think it might get taken down on YouTube. I heard you the other day, 15 seconds. So, do-do-do-do-do-do-do-do.

Appreciate you listening. Of course. You guys are great. So, okay. This is just our warm-up questions. All right. So, Chad. Mm-hmm.

What do you remember thinking to yourself the first time you saw JT? Hopefully that journalist won't be listening or else she'll be like, but anyway. Oh, man. Perfect for your fans. Hilarious. He's just like this like, I was like, what a lovable bro.

How old were you? It was like 15 years ago. Yeah. But we met again doing performing. So really, our second friendship began when we were a little bit older. Yeah, so doing stand-up and shit. Okay, JT, what do you remember thinking to yourself when you first saw Brad?

Chad. Chad, why do I keep calling you Brad? I'm so sorry. See, it's my ADD. I mean, hormones. I thought this guy's too happy and well-adjusted to be doing stand-up. Theo Vaughn said the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

He seemed really happy, bro. Yeah. I was like, because you're at these open mics, and they're the saddest places you've ever been. Everyone is mentally fucked up. Everyone's desperate. Everyone's's and i always say an inch wide and a mile deep and uh and then chad was just there and he looked like he was having a great time and i was like this motherfucker's out of his mind i was like this shit sucks but he was he was having a ball yeah oh i love that i love open mics they're so funny because i was like

yeah because i was like it was like you had the ability to progress your career and it was in your hands you weren't going to auditions and waiting for people to pick you and like every time you got a new bit it was fun even though no one laughs at those things you crazy bro i loved it no it's true everyone says that stuff too but chad actually believes it it's pretty like i remember the real first time he realized i was like oh shit this dude's different we were doing stand-up in arizona we were doing these shitty shows in phoenix and we had like four guys piled into a room and and chad's like hey you want to go down to the pool and and write jokes and i was like yeah let's do it so i thought he

just meant smoke weed and swim. And then we went down there and he was actually writing jokes and then he did those better jokes that night at the stand-up show and I was like, holy shit. And I was like high on drugs in the back. I was like, this guy really works hard. I remember when I first saw

JT, I was like, radical honesty. I love that. Okay, JTT when did you know that you were first in love with Chad oh that's a good question yeah that was probably one of the times when I was in Arizona with him and I saw him doing that I think also one time he showed up in an open mic in a cowboy hat

and he was like hey I'm just wearing a cowboy hat today and he wrote his name down as like a western name like instead of writing chad kroger he was like you know my name is like buffalo and he got introduced on stage as that i don't and i was like oh this guy has like a very uh joyous approach like there was also a time where uh he had my laptop because i was i was trying not to watch porn so i just gave him my laptop for like a month. And then I was like, hey, man, can I get it back? I need to do some work.

And then that day, I was like this close to watching porn again. So I was like, hey, Chad, I got to give you my laptop back. Can I get the keys to your car? Throw it in there. And he threw them to me real fast. He's like, throw it in there, bro. You were like, throw that fucking thing back in there. And I was like, good guy.

I was like, he gets it. Yeah. Aw. Yeah, probably all the time. There's probably a million more. That's adorable. Chad. thing back in there and i was like good guy i was like he gets it yeah oh yeah probably there's probably a million more yeah that's adorable chad when did you first know you were in love with jt your bro your dog listen we can man it up for you and say your bro your dog yeah um i don't think this is the first time but this is one of the most memorable times we were in arizona doing stand-up and he kept doing this impression like there's so many times where you do impressions that just like i'll be like crying laughing i'd be like like for the

rest of the day but can you please do that please do that again you'd like do it and i'm like can you just keep doing this i couldn't stop laughing i think one time like we were like riding in a car and he was like you want to do improv together? And I was like, yeah. And we were just like doing improv, just like driving in the car. I was like, this is awesome. Whenever we do like a big of like a council thing together, it's always very, because we're both so stressed and we kind of like stay apart from each other a little bit. Like we'll practice, but we'll just stay out of each other's space, you know, because our minds are just running.

And then whenever you feel like the, yeah, just sharing that moment together. But I think also whenever I've, he's always been so much more understanding at, like, a deep level of things I'm going through, you know, which,, which it's tough for me to understand. But during a breakup or with the drinking thing or when I was trying to be more assertive, he's able to see me on a deeper level that I can't. And so I think those moments as well. Yeah, vice versa. Yeah. that I can't and so I think those moments as well yeah vice versa yeah and then true too to like the I mean um I think Chad always saw me as like being like a uh more productive human than the one I was

being like I was kind of a slacker when he met me and then he was like no dude you could like work harder and you could like actually you know do some good stuff and to have someone believe in you like that was pretty huge yeah it means everything to me actually it's kind of the best thing that ever happened to me yeah i was like funniest guy in la that's what i said marisi though marisi too yeah marisi yeah but yeah i mean but yeah i mean the whole crew i I mean, Strider, too. Yeah, you, too. Yeah, everybody. That's nice, though. You know each other really well.

Yeah, oh, for sure. You're reinforcing the love. The love. That's what we want. That's nice. It's nice to go back to times like Arizona and those first, like... We were like kids. Yeah. Yeah.

How young were you when you started? Stand-up? Yeah. I was 24. Yeah, I think I i was same age yeah yeah yeah it's uh but yeah you think back to that like trip and you're just like it was crazy it was crazy i think that might should we do questions or should we just get into beefs babes and legend what do you think dog um it's we're at nine we're at nine yeah um're at nine? Yeah. Um, yeah, maybe Spades and Legends.

Okay, let's do it. But maybe we should quickly, because it's one of our small dong shame. What are your thoughts on small dong shame? I had somebody who wrote to me and, oh my gosh, this lovely guy, and I can even remember saying this. So he said that he read an interview of mine and I had said, yes, size does matter. And I was like, shit, did I? I can't remember saying that.

Right. And he said to me, thank you for being honest. Right. Because everybody else, you know, everybody everybody every other expert says size doesn't matter well quite frankly it does and so that made me that made me really think and so how sort of like how i think about it now is look that makes me so sad though it is not just because i have like a really little penis but also just because like that the world is brass tacks like that a little bit you know like we want to believe that like all right if you go with your tongue or if you're like a sweetheart, it'll make up.

But there are a lot of people I've dated who are like, no, like penis size matters to me. And and that's just the way it is. But at the same time, I sometimes think if a woman loves you, she'll believe your penis is bigger than it is in her head. Yeah. Well, you see, that's yes. So that's perfect. I love you for saying that because it's like number one. So on a thing, you can imagine your penis is bigger.

First of all, like 90 percent of the nerve endings are not inside. They're outside. So let's concentrate where the magic is. So let's concentrate where the magic is. Number two, if you, if you look, if you imagine you lived in a culture where they went, not saying yours is, but where they said, oh, yeah, two inch penis. Yeah. Whoa. You're the greatest.

Yeah. Would you feel the greatest? Yes, you would. Yeah. So, again, the programming, the, you know, the conditioning. And my other point was, so, yes, and she can, like, what you create together, sex isn't just, you know, it isn't just about physical. But then the moment you break up and they sleep with someone else, they'll remember. They'll be like, oh, actually, his dick was really small. But when they're in the spell of love with you.

Yeah, but that's why you're not. And that's why you're not with them. Right. So that's fine just a projection it's okay it's okay for someone to to but small in comparison to what's that's the thing too i measure my penis dude it's like you can give or take an inch just on like how you decide to measure it like do you jam down yeah do you go into the base do you go to the side do you go it's like it could be the variance in how people measure it is inch to inch and a half which is a big difference that's 20 of the thong and and here's my here's my other thing and i i felt really clever when i came up with this by the way way. And I was like, ha! So, you know, in marketing, you have these marketing strategies where you talk about,

like, for example, with Twitter. When Twitter first started, it was like, right, if you have a million followers, then yeah, you can get a book deal, or yeah, you can get a TV show. And then they realized, ah, hold on a minute, a million followers, irrespective of whether, you know, they're robots or this, but a million followers,

no, no, no, We need them to be active followers because if they're big fans, then they're going to buy the book. So it's much better to actually have the quality. Comments. Smaller number, but active. A fervent fan base. Exactly.

So here's what I was thinking. If somebody has a small dong, what I would say is go online to a site where it is the small dong. The women who love small dongs. Women who love small dongs because they will be there. Fish out of the right pond. Yeah. Raving fans there.

Why are you going deep sea fishing when you got a little lake rod? You know what I mean? Exactly. You know, you got bait and tackle for freshwater fish and you're out there trying to get some mackerel and tuna. And then next time you see Chad, you'll be like, oh. Off a fucking 45 footer. You've got a normal sized penis. You haven't got a small dong.

I feel so sorry for you. You know what's funny? I've seen Chad's piece. I think it's pretty beefy to be honest with you. No, it's not. Yeah. But what I'm saying is. You know what's funny? I've seen Chad's piece. I think it's pretty beefy, to be honest with you. No, it's not. Yeah. But what I'm saying is. It's not a beef.

Thank you for saying that, but yeah. So anyway, so you go and find your hardcore fans and then like whoever has a small dong and then you just feel like great. You know what happened to me too? The first time I got naked around other guys, I'm 15 years old and I'm with my friend Clinton and Greg and they'll both actually be embarrassed about this story because I just don't think they want to be known

for anything about their penis. But the truth is, they're both little guys. We're all like five feet tall at 15, so we're below the height curve. They both had huge fucking dicks. Greg's got one of the biggest

dicks I've ever seen. Clinton's got one of the biggest and fattest dicks I've ever seen. I'm 15. These two guys are like five feet tall. They're like Danny DeVito's height. And I'm like, how the fuck are these guys

dicks? But in my head, I'm like, if these five foot guys have dicks that big, then my friends who are like five, ten, six foot, they must have double these guys' dicks. So I had a really skewed perspective on what everybody else's dicks would be. Yeah, which was really, it was kind of

just bad luck. Yeah. Just bad, bad luck. I just had really well-hung friends who were short. Yeah. And it fucked up my head for years. Oh, yeah. I was like, yeah.

And it's interesting because then- God bless them, too. They're both lovely guys. But are they growers, you say? That's the other thing that people don't take into account. I've never seen them hard, but I gotta believe. I gotta believe it's big. Well, maybe that's why some of them are kind of like not proud of when you say you have a huge dong,

because maybe it's just not a... I've heard Greg try to say that. Literally, we did this thing in high school where we'd bully bully people for the things that they were, that were good qualities. And we'd be like, oh, you're so strong. What's it like to be so strong? Oh, you have such a big dick. What's it like to have such a big dick? And we'd make the people hate their good qualities.

We were like that's sophisticated of bullies. Yeah. And then I remember we were at a party and Greg, I was talking about how big Greg's dick was. He just had enough. And he came running outside of the party and went, shut the fuck up. I don't have a big dick. But he does. but he does but he does it was nuts dude it was nuts we made him turn on his own piece yeah

god damn this and like and i feel bad so it feels reduct this is what is it's reductive to talk about him as just having a big pecker because he's one of the most brightest guys I've ever met. Super high IQ, super high SAT scores, super high any kind of test you throw at him, he'll ace it. He just has crazy computing skills with his head. My dad threw numbers at him, and Greg will just spit them out fast. But the thing I talk about the most is this big dude. Super funny guy.

He's got it all. That's the first thing I think when I see him. Yeah. I'm like, oh yeah. He's really handsome. He looks like Matt Damon, you know, he's a good looking kid. Yeah, great at Call of Duty, and he's a good friend. He's a really good friend of me too.

All right, should we get into our Beast Babes and Legends? Yeah. Are we ready? Yeah. Chad, ready? Yeah. Chad, who's your Beef of the Week? My Beef of the Week. I'm sorry I sprung this on you like an hour before. Oh, yes.

Cool. My Beef of the Week, pretty simple. It's a movie. Theater's being closed. You know, I was with my buddy. My college friend came in town, and I wanted to relax. And I was like, oh, it's July. I wish we could go see a Michael friend came in town, and I wanted to relax, and I was like, oh, it's July.

I wish we could go see a Michael Bay movie in theaters. Just eat popcorn. Go see Tenet in theaters. Whenever I just want to relax and chill, I just love going to the theaters. And it's a weird thing. That's one of the things that I haven't gotten used to is like, oh, I can't go to the theater for a while. Yeah. Such a good call which blows uh straight up so yeah that's my beef you know pretty much the c virus uh it's time to bail um you know tenants tenants tenants premiere date got pushed back i don't even know

they said next year or something crazy oh Just release it VOD, bro. No, you gotta see that in theaters. Yeah, I know. Fuck. It's all on IMAX, too. You gotta see it on IMAX. Damn it. I know, but come on.

We gotta wait a year? Dude, we should've had Top Gun 2 by now. Oh, really? Yeah, that was in... A Quiet Place 2. A Quiet Place 2. That was May 2nd. Mul 2. A Quiet Place 2. Oh. That was May 2nd.

Mulan. Live action Mulan. Mulan, I don't... What's that? It's a Disney movie. It's a great Disney movie. Yeah. About a girl who pretends to be a guy so that her dad won't have to go to war with China to fight the Mongols.

To defeat the Huns. Let's get down to business. To defeat the Huns. Let's get down to business. To defeat the Huns. In other words. Did they send me daughters? Or a nest for sons? There we go. That's a real banger.

Yeah, so that's my beef. Movie theaters. Pretty much my beef is not with movie theaters. It's with the C-virus once again. You're a schmole. Time to get boked. Amen, brother. Simone, what's your beef of the week?

My beef of the week is stupid news stories where I think Jeff Bezos is now too much in my home thanks to Alexa pulling up this news story. I think Jeff Bezos is now like too much in my home. Thanks to Alexa going, pulling up this news story. And it was the big news story of the day. Dogs are going to be too dependent and too connected post coronavirus. And I was like, hold on a minute. This is ridiculous. dogs are always connected

and loving that's why they're called dogs and they've got god in their name and i just it bugs me because right now there's so many of us who obviously are disconnected. And now we're seeing a problem of being connected with our dogs. So that just annoyed me. So instead of saying a story of, go and French kiss your dog and be happy, that would be nice and that would be good. They would just make something out of nothing. And obviously it is the you know the c virus

which is just not going away any time in that i'd like it to in my head yeah no i saw that article too and you look at it you're like like why yeah why for god's sake yeah like what are you trying to do? Dogs aren't disconnected to start with. Yeah. They're not cats. Yeah. The cats are funny.

Yeah. Yeah. Stay connected to the dogs. Yeah. I like that. My beef of the week is i was watching a movie outside at my mom's house and this like group of like just dangerous 12 year olds appeared in the shadows over a gate and they're like what's up bro and i was like what's up dudes and they're like nice pool and i was like yeah for sure for sure like can we do a backflip in it there was like 12 of them they

were like i can only see their silhouettes and i was like nah and they're like why not bro and i was like in my head i'm like i don't want one of you guys like crack your dome and then you know i'm liable and i don't want 12 12 year olds to come in here right now like for a multitude of reasons and then i'm like nah dudes and then they're all like all right and then there was the one mouthy one at the end who's like all right later bitch and i'm like come on dude and then he's like, all right, later, bitch. And I'm like, come on, dude. And then he's like, what? Are you pissed off now? Huh? You stupid bitch. And then I was like, dude, come on, take the high road, bro. Why are you going to talk like that? But I was being nice about it. I was kind of laughing. I was like, come on, dude. And then he was like, oh guys,

he's all pissed off now. And that's what got me upset is that I wasn't pissed off. And then he labeled me pissed off and that made me pissed off you know i was being cool as fuck and then i was like totally rolling with him talking shit to me and then he still misconstrued it to his crew as me being like aggro and i was like that's not even fair 12 year old and i tried to be like dude i'm being legit and then he was like fuck you bitch and i was like all right well he's not really hearing me yeah oh. Oh, I don't like that. Yeah. And that made me think I was like, you know, I don't want to get into the same kind of hysterics that, you know, is motivating a lot of these news stories. But I was like, if these 12 year olds don't go back to school, how soon before they gangify and they start going through the suburbs of otherwise nice towns, creating mayhem.

Doing backflips. Yeah. God knows how many pools. Yeah, just freaking hucking gainers off roofs in every pool you care about. Yeah. I mean, this neighborhood, I mean, no pool's going to be safe. Yeah. This is a tragedy.

Yeah. I'm concerned these kids might only be silhouettes. I don't even know if you saw them in the light, if you could see their flesh. They might be that dark at this point that they're, you know, spiritually, that they're just silhouettes. Yeah. They're just little creepers. Little creep outlines. I find it.

I mean, look, I can't. It's that whole thing. We can't remember. Teenagers think they've invented everything. It's like, oh my God, sex. Yeah, they think they're the first ones to talk shit. But it just sounds weird, like hearing a 12-year-old go, you bitch.

And it's like, huh? When did that happen? I was 12 one time paintballing, and I kept cussing. And then this guy who was a fourth-grade teacher was like, do you know how stupid you sound when you cuss like that all the time? I was like, Jesus, bro. But now thinking back on it, I'm like, that guy was right. Yeah.

But when you're a kid, you just don't hear where they're coming from. Yeah. You sound stupid talking like that. Yeah. I don't know. All right. Chad, who's your babe of the week? My babe of the week is, I call it the Corona 405.

Dude, have you cruised on the 405 lately? The Rona 405? Rolling, dude. This is the only thing I'm going to miss about the season. I mean, I do kind of like all this time at home. Yeah, no, I get it now. There's no traffic. Yeah.

The Corona 405 is, you get on that, you're like on the Autobahn just cruising. You know, I'd put it on cruise control at like 90 and just get down to San Clemente in like 55 minutes. It's the best. I know. When have we ever been able to speed in LA? Yeah. It's pretty sweet. It's awesome.

Yeah. The Rona 405. That's going to be like a beautiful part. It's pretty sweet. It's awesome. Yeah. The Rona 405. That's going to be a beautiful part of something. I know. The song lyric. Yeah. For that brief week where I thought we were going back to normal, I was kind of like, man, I'm going to miss the traffic.

Yeah. That has been... When the lockdown first happened, I got down to Newport In like 25 minutes I was like what the fuck is going on Yeah But yeah I'm enjoying the open roads

That week was crazy when we were like alright Everything's okay now Oh yeah yeah What was that like Memorial Day kind of Yeah like a month ago maybe Who's your babe of the week Well my babe is not What was that, like Memorial Day kind of? Yeah, like a month ago maybe? Yeah. Who's your babe of the week? Well, my babe, it's not new, and it shall continue.

It's got to be the nurses. Oh, hell yeah. That's whether they're men or women, just like, just, I mean, superheroes. Yeah. Just just I mean, superheroes and continue to be so. And like they are working 24 hour shift and then. Yeah. Then thinking they've got a day off and then being called back in and sort of like, you know, what they see and with their equipment. And they just I mean, they are they are going as the Dalai Lama would say. Yeah, they are going to another the higher realms.

They can they can enjoy whatever happens. So yeah, they're just, they are the babes. They are, yeah, soul of the earth. Absolutely. Those are my babes. My babe of the week

is this guy Ray Bellucci who I saw on Vice. He tried to do one of those like, you know those like flaming lip balls that you like roll in, you run in and it rolls. He tried to do that from like the coast to Bermuda and everyone's like, you can't do in, you run in and it rolls. He tried to do that from like the coast to Bermuda.

And everyone was like, you can't do it. You can't do it. And he was like, screw you guys. I'm going for it. Like a Zorb? Yeah. And like, and like the Coast Guard was like trying to get them to stop, but it wasn't within their jurisdiction.

They're like, they're like out there in the water, like warning them. They're like, you can't do it, bro. He's like, everyone will tell you can't. You got to just go for it. And I think he ended up shooting off a flare, uh, cause he almost died. But you know what? You don't for every guy who makes it on one of those great adventures, there's a million guys who don't. And, and we got to respect the attempt, you know? And I just, I love this guy. He's got a ponytail and he calls himself an athlete, even though he looks like he's got 20% body fat.

And he, and he pushed the outside of the envelope. And I just, you know, the world needs more Ray Belucci's. That's the funniest image ever. Dude, it's pretty hilarious.

You gotta have a dream, bro. Yeah. All right. Nevermind. Yeah. Dude, please don't do this.

He's like, fucking dude. Literally the coast guard's out there on a boat. They're like, dude, please don't do this. And he's like, fucking dude. Literally the coast guard's out there on a boat. They're like, stop! Turn around! And he's just like, crazy. He's just like, I'm gonna go. It's pretty amazing. Oh, man.

Chad, who's your legend of the week? I wanna do that guy. He's a beast. My legend is this dude, Dolan. Who I met at Razzmatazz in Barcelona. Yep. Dude, Dolan is a beast. And I only spent like one night with him, but like the dude,

he told me all about how good he is at grilling. And he just fired me up. He's like, I do spices, rubs. I make a pork butt. It will just blow your mind. I was like, I've only dreamed of grilling like dolan can um so dolan and i know he's going through a breakup right now so you know i wish i could be there for him because i think it would really strengthen our bond because we only spent one night you know just chatting about grilling um but he's just a beast dude and uh yeah dolan what up dude beast stay on

the grill my man love that throw it full on there my legends are three oh wow be greedy triumvirate I remember it. Uh-huh. So we have Chad. We have JT. What up? And we have Ricky Gervais. Oh, nice. Cool. Good company. Uh-huh. And for you sending a Scientologist into, I mean, not sending a Scientologist.

You didn't do that. No, for you, just like the last little bit where you ventured into City Hall with your masks on, making us all laugh. And just I think it's so interesting. And Ricky Gervais, I always watch his little bits. And, you know, he's interacting with dogs and the dog is going, listen, you fat fuck. And he's like, God, even dogs don't respect me. But it's Ricky Gervais' laugh. And just like. That's not it.

I can't do it. I know. It's so it's just like this sort of chimp human. I mean, it's just brilliant. And I think it's so interesting sort of with regards to what we all do. Sort of as in I'm there sort of, you know, wanting to help people feel their best and you're there helping people feel their best

because you're helping people laugh and get beyond or get into actually that present moment. And that's such a gift. The first thing I will do in the morning is watch comedy. Oh my gosh, it's the thing that just just helps me get right okay it's going to be okay and then i'll get into my breath work and stuff like that but i need that comedy and i and i think it's it's it's the way forward and so thanks it's it's absolutely keep working, keep making us laugh.

And like hearing how Ricky Gervais sort of talks about, he was saying like it takes him five years or four years or whatever, you know, to write a stand-up show. And like how much that goes into it. And obviously you giving us behind the scenes, you know, information here when you were saying about when you go and do your city hall bits and how like how in or your fox news bits like how intense that is and how much goes into it and and sort of all these like different multiple layers that that just us watching it just um

we experience it but we're not there unpacking it and and it's so important because i really do believe like laughter what what increases our immunity that's my other beef we're not talking about hold on let's let's like um uh optimize our immune our immune system we're talking about oh my god so many people have died well why don't we talk about you know what watch something funny go and watch puppy videos uh go in like go for a walk chill with your dog walk barefoot in the park you know do something do something nice don't take shit from like 12 year olds and laugh about it and go hot you know and and you know it's it's comedy laughter it's so important and if there's one thing that's going to get us through it and one thing that i would say is similar um to with with ricky um ricky you'll get that if you lived in england it's like there was eastenders it was a sitcom not a sitcom a soap and there

was a guy called ricky and his wife was called Bianca. Ricky! But anyway, wasted here. Know your audience. There's my open mic bit. Radio silence. I'm prepared, I'm prepared. I'm like, Chad, I enjoyed it.

It's one thing that I get from ricky gervais is yes he he has that sort of like uh that bite that edge uh he i think he is a sweet sweet sweetheart you know when he talks about animals and just just like i just think and and you guys have that. And when it's, to me, it means so much having the laughter, but then also like just that heart. And I just think that's what's going to get us through this. Oh, that's nice. Thank you. That's so nice.

Yeah, it's very generous. Thank you. So continue. Thank you. Will do, yeah, for sure. Thank you. That's really too kind. Yeah.

Not too kind. Truth. All right. Thank you. That's really too kind. Yeah. Not too kind. Truth. All right. Thank you. Yeah, I found that watching comedy in the morning, like I'll watch like Best of Homer Simpson. It just puts you right in the right. You're like, all right.

Yeah, gets you in state. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I do breath work too. But it's hard to get me to that yes like the motivation yeah but then watching comedy it is just such like a kind of an ice breaker to whatever malaise you're yeah because because what are we what we know what were we as

kids we just laughed yeah you know we you know irive, you will see a child or you'll see a baby, like, laughing, giggling, just full of joy. So when we can get to that state, then we can then, yeah, we get to our natural state and it's wonderful. That's true. My legend of the week, because we were talking about coronavirus kind of stealing time or stealing professional experiences away from us is Muhammad Ali because you know he's probably the greatest athlete of the 20th century maybe Michael Jordan had better on court production relative to each of their sports but I think Muhammad Ali is probably the most iconic sports figure of the 20th century and it's because of you know he stood up for more than sports you know he lost three years in the prime of his career I think think like 27 to 30. Those are probably your best boxing years. Because, you know, he didn't want to go to

the Vietnam War. So they took away his boxing license, and he risked going to jail. Because it was just against his ideological beliefs. And he stood up to the government, he ended up being able to come back to the sport. And he was a different fighter at that point, he didn't have the same foot speed, he had to rely a little bit more on his in-ring savvy. And he still had some great victories over Joe Frazier and George Foreman, but who knows what his career could have been in those three years had he been able to fight. But we don't really even care about that because he stood for so much more

than that. Gosh, I never knew that. Yeah, it's a big part of his huge legacy. His legacy has so many chapters to it. But that's a big chapter of it. And then he... Yeah, I think not all of us can be Muhammad Ali, but we can learn from him. And then think about this time as, while it's challenging to us, it's like, or Ted Williams, you know, one of the greatest baseball players ever fought in the war. He was a great fighter pilot. MJ took

two years off to play baseball. All these great athletes, they had breaks in their careers. And so right now we all just might be having our break. And if we can fill it with good time, you know, it'll be a nice addendum on our badass Wikipedia page at the end of our life. So, yeah. And then, you know, I love Ali. He's just the greatest.

You know, Muhammad Ali is really interesting. He uses a technique. One day I'll have to show you guys where basically I teach people, I call it we learn to time travel but it's basically we use our mind in a particular way and what he used to do, he said that he was so good at

and so accurate at the shots because he could leave his body go round to the other round to the, do you know this? round to the opponent, is that what you call it? Yeah. The opponent's back.

And he could see from the back the muscles, which muscles were moving. Oh, wow. And where he was going to be hit. And that's how he could duck. Right. So he used his mind in an amazing, just like our mini version earlier, where you could point. He used, he just went, he basically time traveled and so he was like

he was able to see from the muscle movements and that's how he could duck alright Chad what is your quote of the week? my quote so I've been doing movies I started with Van Wilder now I'm on to American Pie What is your quote of the week? My quote? So I've been doing movies.

I started with Van Wilder. Now I'm on to American Pie. And so this is the part where Jim got caught boning the pie. Oh, yeah. And so he and his dad are standing there looking at it. And he's just standing there in shame and his his dad who's probably the best one of the best movie dads ever he goes well well just tell your mother that we ate it all samoa what's your photo um i'm gonna have to remember it because my phone's on the floor

but it's actually from yeah it's from joseph campbell and one of my all-time favorites oh yeah amazing and it's let go of the life it's it's let go of the life you think you want it's something like this in order to have the life that's waiting for you and so for me, that is very now, which is what do we need to do? Let go of the life that we used to because and let's just see what this new experience brings, because soon, please, God, we will be in some kind of normalcy where we won't have to speak through Perspex screens. Yeah. We won't have to be the people. Maybe, I don't know, maybe.

Did you ever see, there was a channel I used to do voiceover for and they had a show called The Boy in the Bubble and this poor little kid had, like, he was allergic to so many. The Travolta movie? Yeah, I think, yeah, somebody told me that they did. The Boy in the Plastic Bubble? There we go.

But this was like the real life version. Yeah, the 60 Minutes version. So, yeah. So hopefully we won't all be like in bubbles, walking our dogs in like bubbles. And we will be sort of back to normal but i think it's a really good experience of and challenge and you know of being able to just let go let go of expectation watch comedy in the morning get our wisdom from homer simpson and just swim in the

pool and stick your finger up to the 12 yearyear-old kids and go, there's a backflip. Yeah. After those 12-year-olds. Yeah. My quote's from Oscar Wilde. Oh. I might have said this one before, but I've always liked this one. I picked it up from Stephen Fry, too.

I heard him say it in a panel. Oscar Wilde said, if you want to be a grocer or a general or a politician or a judge, you will invariably become that. That is your punishment. If you never know what you want to be, if you love what some might call the dynamic life, what I will call the artistic life, if each day you are unsure of who you are and what you know, you will never become anything. And that is your reward. Nice.

Oh, can I have a second quote just Just to add to what you're saying. Now this I don't want to muck up. It's by Rumi. And just to add to what you were saying. Hold on, here it is. Rumi said. I think I'd like this. I don't know Rumi, but everything I hear from Rumi.

You know it's going to be deep. Rumi is just beautiful it's going to be deep. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Let's be nothing. I heard it lasts forever. Whoa. Cool. And that was my second quote.

Man, I'd love to just smoke a bowl with that guy. Yeah. So there we go. I like that. Nice quote. What's your phrase of the week for getting after it? There's a fiesta. We're going to Studio 54. Love it.

Simone, what's yours? I don't think I have one of those, but I'm going to second what Chad said because that is just amazing and I'm telling every woman I know. Fiesta and Studio 54, here we come. Love that. Mine is from my buddy Rossi. It was his last day lifting with the crew on Sunday before he heads back to his regular home in New York.

And he put up some massive weight. He was flinging around those 44-pound kettlebells, doing snatch lunges and different variations that I hadn't seen. It was pretty impressive stuff. And then before he said goodbye, he said, sleep easy and lift heavy. It was pretty impressive stuff. And then before he said goodbye, he said, he said, sleep easy and lift heavy. Oh, that's great.

Ross is a beast. He's a fucking great guy, right? Yeah. I like that because that's a, to me, that's a metaphor as well. Yeah.

It's like all the life in there. Yeah. And yeah, he embodies it. So I hope, you know, he just got back to New York today. Glad you got home safe, buddy.

I'll see you in Call of Duty. We're going to do Zoom workouts. We're not done lifting. Oh, nice. Yeah, the lifting doesn't stop. The work's not done. That's good. Yeah.

Yeah. All right. Well, Simone. It's been so great. You've been so lovely. Thank you. This has been so fun. Thank you.

I've had a blast. I feel like you've, like, we've done couples counseling before, but that kind of had the... Yeah, that was cool. That was fun. I wasn't expecting that. That was awesome. Yeah. Maybe next time we'll do it with Aaron, too, and get all supercharged on that hottie over there.

Family. Yeah. I'd like to break down those walls. Yeah, let's get over there. He's got some computers blocking him right now, but I got eyes on his forehead, and I want to lick it. Once we get behind there, we're going to realize that he loves In-N-Out. Yeah. He's shaking his head

now. Of course he is. No way. Oh, guys, thank you so much. We'll have to be back. This was so much fun. Thank you.

We'll get to some listeners' questions next time. Thank you so much. All right. All right. See you later, Stokers, and write a review.

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