Going West: True Crime - Torrey Pines State Beach Murders // 429

Episode Date: August 10, 2024

In the 1970s and 1980s, two teenage girls were brutally murdered on a San Diego beach six years apart, mere yards away from each other. An investigation just as twisted as the murders themselves broug...ht three suicides, more questions than answers, and the possibility that a serial killer is still on the loose. These are the Torrey Pines State Beach Murders, otherwise known as the murders of Barbara Nantais and Claire Hough. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 What is going on true crime fans? I'm your host T and I'm your host Daphne and you're listening to going west. Hello everybody. Big thank you to Jackie for recommending today's case. This is such a weird one in the way that two separate murders occurred almost in the exact same spot years apart and they're both such disturbing crimes. Yeah, and it's not a place that you would expect something like this to happen. It happens on a beach, which is the most interesting part that these two bodies were found years apart on that same specific beach. Out in the open. Yeah, and almost in the same way, right? Yeah, absolutely. So many similarities that we're gonna talk about today.
Starting point is 00:00:57 So thank you guys so much for tuning in. Again, big thank you to Jackie. And without further ado, let's just dive right in. Alright guys, this is episode 429 of Going West so let's get into it. When things heat up, you don't just want a cold one. You want the coldest one. The cold-loggered, cold-filtered, cold-certified one. Mountain Cold Refreshment. Coors Light. The chill choice. Visit CoorsLight.ca to learn more.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Celebrate responsibly, must be legal drinking age. In the 1970s and 1980s, two teenage girls were brutally murdered on a San Diego beach six years apart, mere yards away from each other. An investigation just as twisted as the murders themselves brought three suicides, more questions than answers, and the possibility that a serial killer is still on the loots. These are the stories of Barbara Nantes and Claire Hough, These are the stories of Barbara Nantes and Claire Hough,, 1962 in Lakewood, California, which is a city in LA County situated between Long Beach and Los Angeles proper. She joined parents Judy and Ralph and older sisters Lorraine and Sue and was later joined by a little brother named Tom.
Starting point is 00:03:26 Barbara was known to be incredibly bubbly and friendly and was a favorite among teachers and peers alike. In high school, she made the varsity cheerleading team as a sophomore, which actually marked the first time in the history of her school that an upcoming junior was on the varsity team. Her mom, Judy, smiled as she described Barbara as, quote, a popular, defiant, beautiful, pain in the ass, wonderful daughter. God gave her to me to keep me humble and it worked. When she was 15, Barbara's sister Sue introduced her to 17 year old Jim Ault and they instantly liked each other.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Jim was a very typical Southern California boy, you know, he was a surfer, he had bleached blonde hair like it was like white, and they were both just super outgoing and fun and the life of the party so it seems like they perfectly complemented each other. On the second weekend of August in 1978, Barbara's parents Judy and Ralph were going away to visit some friends and they asked a family friend to stay behind with their four kids. But when they left, against her parents' wishes, Barbara and Jim, along with their friend Rick and his girlfriend, headed for their favorite place, the beach. You know, it's a summer
Starting point is 00:04:40 weekend. They want to go hang out together. Yeah, this feels pretty typical of like a Southern California friends and couples and teenagers they want to spend some time at the beach they want to just hang out and enjoy the surf. Absolutely and of course from their perspective they're saying we're just going to the beach what could go wrong you know. Absolutely. So on Saturday August 12th 1978 the couples headed down for Torrey Pines State Beach which is a very popular destination for Southern Californians And it's located about an hour and a half from Barbara's home just north of San Diego
Starting point is 00:05:12 This is a beautiful beach But just you guys know this was definitely not the closest beach because the closest is like 20 minutes away from her located in Long Beach So there's technically no reason to go down here but but people like different beaches for different reasons. They offer different things. Absolutely yeah I mean even even us if we go to a beach on the weekend sometimes we don't actually like going on the weekend because it's so busy depending on what beach you go to. And that's a good example because sometimes we don't want to go to Zuma we want to go up to
Starting point is 00:05:44 Matador which is a lot further. But so sometimes, you know, depending on what you're looking for, you pick a different beach. So they, they decided to go to this one, even though it was a little bit further. And like you're saying, the beach was packed that day. So, you know, they were surfing and swimming until the sun went down. They had it. They had a great day. Then in the evening, they joined a group of men partying on the beach for a little while before breaking off to go to sleep.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Because instead of making a drive back to Barbara's house, making that hour and a half long drive, they opted to camp out on the beach. So yeah, keep in mind, there's other people there that night. The beach wasn't deserted like, you know Most would be after sunset. There's people partying in there Yeah, definitely and we don't know the extent of these men that they were partying with
Starting point is 00:06:34 We don't know how old they were how many men there actually were there But it seems like they pretty much just came upon like this beach fire and and were like, hey, let's just sit around and chat. Exactly. Well, around 9.30 PM, Rick and his girlfriend went up to their car to sleep there, but Barbara and Jim stayed down on the beach, zipping their sleeping bags together and falling asleep on the sand. Jim's last memory of Barbara was a happy one, as he said, quote, just her laying in my arms, us talking, looking at the stars. And that seems like just such a beautiful last memory of Barbara.
Starting point is 00:07:14 Absolutely. Well, the next thing that Jim knew, hours later, he woke up to complete darkness and silence, except for crashing waves. His eyes were nearly swollen shut. He had been mostly thrust from his sleeping bag and winced from the throbbing pain in his head when he woke up. He fumbled around in the sand for Barbara but he couldn't find her. So then Jim stumbled up to the parking lot where his friends were asleep in their car. Collapsing on the concrete next to it, he tapped on the window and told Rick to go down to the beach to find Barbara,
Starting point is 00:07:49 having no idea what happened to himself or his girlfriend. Around 6 a.m., as paramedics raced to the parking lot to tend to Jim, Rick ran back down to where the couple had spent the night in search of Barbara. down to where the couple had spent the night in search of Barbara. Well, around 630 a.m. Rick came across Barbara's naked, lifeless body near Lifeguard Tower 7. Jim had been badly beaten with a rock and log from a nearby fire pit and knocked unconscious during the attack, which kind of explains his terrible injuries here. I mean, yeah, he was beaten with a rock and a log in the head. So it kind of seems like somebody just picked up something that was nearby and decided to brutally beat this young couple.
Starting point is 00:08:33 Yeah, and not that it was necessarily then premeditated, but they came upon them and, yeah, are using the resources around them, like the heaviest things they could find to beat these people. Yeah, so it was kind of a miracle that he had been able to drag himself to safety and seek help. Well, Jim was transported to Scripps Memorial Hospital and rushed into surgery, but sadly, 15-year-old Barbara was already dead by the time help got there. She had been bludgeoned multiple times in her head and strangled. she had been bludgeoned multiple times in her head and strangled. But that wasn't all, whoever committed this act was clearly a depraved and evil animal because aside from the horrific life ending crimes against her, there was sand in her
Starting point is 00:09:15 mouth, one of her breasts had been cut open, and she had been sexually assaulted. Once police assessed the scene and confirmed that Barbara was very much deceased, detectives got in touch with their parents out of town, and they were in utter disbelief that something this terrifying could happen to their beloved daughter. Jim Alt suffered a traumatic brain injury and fell into a coma for days, like he even had to undergo surgery to have a metal plate installed in his head. Which he still has to this day. Yeah. Well, when he awoke, he had no memory of what had happened.
Starting point is 00:09:50 So obviously, detectives kind of briefly entertained the possibility that the murder could have been carried out by Jim himself. But, I mean, obviously with his injuries and them being so severe, that was definitely impossible. And it just wasn't at all in his character to do something like this yeah he was not a violent person and you know of course they're gonna question this because it's like oh well why did you live but he was beaten so severely he couldn't have done this to himself yeah and but of course it's kind of convenient as well and police's eyes at first saying oh and you don't remember the attack
Starting point is 00:10:26 Convenient, but he really didn't I mean what is he gonna? Do beat the shit out of himself with a rock and a log like let's be real here people no Then that's why they ruled him out So despite the shock at the gruesome nature of the crime against a young member of their community There were no advancements made and no suspects, leads, or persons of interest ever publicly announced. So this heinous crime just sort of faded into obscurity when no leads came along. That is, until 1984, when a nearly identical case breathed new life into Barbara's. identical case breathes new life into Barbara's. Claire Penelope Huff was born on September 30th, 1969
Starting point is 00:11:09 to parents Penny and Sam and grew up alongside a brother named Matt. Now they lived in Cranston, Rhode Island, which is a suburb of Providence, but they did make frequent trips to Claire's grandparents who lived on the West Coast, just blocks from Torrey Pines State Beach. Claire's parents lovingly describe her as a gentle,
Starting point is 00:11:30 funny and kind person. She loved 80s rock music, especially Journey, Ozzy Osbourne, Van Halen and Kiss. All right, so she's got excellent taste in music. Yeah, you know, this is the 80s and she is a young teenage gal. And in the summer of 1984, 14 year old Claire, Yeah, you know, this is the 80s and she's a young teenage gal. And in the summer of 1984, 14-year-old Claire, along with her brother Matt and her best friend
Starting point is 00:11:50 Kim, flew out to California from their Rhode Island home to stay with her grandparents in San Diego and hang out on the beach for a few weeks. You know, again, she's young, it's the summer, she wants to have a nice trip and really soak up the warm Southern California beaches. So Kim, who again is Claire's friend, remembers Claire wanting to sneak down to the beach one night after her grandparents had gone to bed. And they just sat in the sand together, enjoying watching the waves late at night while listening to music on Claire's boombox.
Starting point is 00:12:20 You know, a nice summer evening. But eerily, Kim recalls being haunted by the feeling that something bad was going to happen. And she urged Claire to leave the beach with her right away. Like something suddenly just came over her and she wanted to get the hell out of there. I hate those, like, I hate those kind of feelings when we talk about that in cases. I know it's so foreshadowing. It's so foreshadowing and people have these crazy feelings that they're in danger in some way. Yeah, like this intuition. So, you know, she's telling Claire,
Starting point is 00:12:53 I have a bad feeling I want to leave. So Claire said, okay, let's go. And after that she still had such a bad feeling that she told Claire, you know, please don't come back here alone at night because I feel like something's going to happen to you. Which is again, so uncanny considering what happens, but Kim couldn't stay to make sure that Claire would listen to her because the next day Kim had to fly back home to Rhode Island. And guess what?
Starting point is 00:13:18 Just days later, Claire was gone. On the evening of Thursday, August 23, 1984, just over six years after Barbara was killed on that very sand, Claire returned to the beach by herself and never made it back to her grandparents' house. Around 5 a.m. on the morning of Friday, August 24, 1984, a beach-combing local named Wallace Wheeler was walking the beach as the sun rose and came upon 14-year-old Claire's bloodied body
Starting point is 00:13:53 near Lifeguard Tower 5 on Torrey Pines State Beach, just a few hundred yards from where Barbara's body had been recovered years earlier. Remember, Barbara's body was found by Tower 7. Claire is being found by Tower 5. And here is what Wallace told the police, quote, I was in the habit of shining my flashlight over the beach to see if Cans or anything else was in range of the light. It appeared someone was sleeping, so I quickly turned my light off and moved toward her. I had not taken many steps when I realized I had seen her exposed left hip and back, and people with rare exceptions do not sleep on the beach that way. I was sure from the color of her flesh that she was dead."
Starting point is 00:14:40 The scene, the state of Claire's body, and even how she was positioned when left behind was nearly identical to Barbara's murder. Claire had been strangled and sustained blows to the head, and she was found half naked with her blue jeans pulled down and sand in her mouth. I mean this really is identical. It feels, yeah it feels exactly that way. So she appeared to have been sexually assaulted and most disturbingly Her breast had been mutilated just as Barbara's had been like everything is matching
Starting point is 00:15:14 yeah, that's that's one of the weirdest details to me is like here we are six years later and The killer used the same method to mutilate her breast. Like I've never seen this happen in the exact same spot. You know, you see victims with a lot of commonalities across maybe the same area, but in the literal almost exact same spot, so weird. It's very, very eerie. Well, cigarette butts had been left behind at the scene,
Starting point is 00:15:40 which are believed to belong to Claire's killer. The last time her grandmother saw her, she had been in bed. But sometime after her grandparents and brother retired for the night, she slipped out with her backpack and her stereo, stopping at a convenience store to purchase a pack of cigarettes before heading down to the water. Now, some investigators speculated that Claire headed out that night to meet a boy, but Kim really didn't think so, saying quote, My theory is that she snuck out, that she was sitting there listening to music and someone
Starting point is 00:16:13 saw a crime of opportunity and Claire didn't hear them until it was too late. When her parents raced across the country to be there at the scene of the discovery of their daughter's body, they were greeted on the beach by Wallace himself, the man who had discovered their daughter's body. And weird enough, this guy told the Huffs that he was psychic and that he had been communicating with their daughter. Yeah, and they think he's kind of an oddball anyway as they're talking to him. You know, they're going through something extremely traumatic and he's saying, oh, hey, I'm, I'm Wally. I'm a psychic. That's what he said to them. And, and so they are letting the police know,
Starting point is 00:16:52 we don't know if how we feel about this guy and if maybe he's guilty. So the police actually said, keep talking to the guy because he might feel so guilty that he'll confess if he is involved in this. Yeah. And it's smart that they actually tipped the investigators off on Wallace because I'm honestly not positive that police were going to look into him any further than, hey, I discovered the victim's body, you know? And here's what they learned about Wallace. So Wallace was known to be a pretty eccentric guy.
Starting point is 00:17:24 He was a divorcee with two children and a former lieutenant in the army. In his latter years, he suffered from unpredictable mental health and bouts of depression. He was living with his sister at the time just around the corner from Claire's grandparents' house. Those who knew him recalled that his mental health had suffered a very steep decline in recent years, and that he now spent most of his time combing the beach and collecting cans. So if he's not guilty, you know, nice thing to do, collect cans on the beach, you know, report a body that you see, like otherwise, nothing nefarious about the guy necessarily.
Starting point is 00:18:03 Well yeah. More of an oddball. More of an oddball. More of an oddball. Doesn't seem like, you know, he's a dangerous man at this point. But he did tell Claire's parents that he sincerely felt that he could help solve her crime if he was able to communicate with her enough. So the three of them kept in touch so that her parents could potentially kinda get a confession out of him. And he was also questioned numerous times by the police.
Starting point is 00:18:27 So yeah, it seems like they're definitely at least doing their due diligence and, and what they can to see if he's their guy or if this is somebody else. And actually Wally began sending Claire's parents these long rambling letters detailing his communication with their deceased daughter, which Penny and Sam found very disturbing and again, extremely odd. In one vision, he describes seeing Claire's attacker who allegedly had a high forehead, long hair, and a missing ear.
Starting point is 00:19:00 A missing ear? That's pretty strange. Super specific. He told them, quote, I believe he immediately attacked and strangled her and described the attack by saying quote, he was crouched over her shoulders and I just don't have a clear picture of what he was doing but would think it was when he mutilated her. Wallace was never found to have any connection to the murder and was soon ruled out of suspicion completely. And also alongside this, the letters eventually did stop coming in.
Starting point is 00:19:32 So he really did just seem to be this guy who happened to come across her body and who claimed to be a psychic and apparently just wanted to help. Yeah, it feels like he was just trying to make some sort of connection to the crime even though he was just the guy that some sort of connection to the crime, even though He was just the guy that discovered her body. That's it. Well to kind of wrap up what happened to him He actually in 1988 so only four years after Claire was murdered at the age of 65 Wallace leapt off the top floor of his 13 story apartment building I mean that does feel kind of suspicious considering that it was just four years later, but at the
Starting point is 00:20:11 same time police are saying you know there really is no connection to this guy. Yeah this was more than likely just a very tragic and strange thing to happen within the case but was very separate from it. And also we do have to remember that he was struggling from some mental health issues as well. Right. And also some depression, so this does align. So true. Well, after Claire's death, her parents actually found this informal will that she had written out, and to them, Claire had left the message, quote, Mom, Dad, you're the greatest. You made me realize how precious and beautiful life is.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Thank you. I could list all the wonderful things you've done, but everyone would fall asleep. I love you both. So pretty wild that at 14 years old, she had already written these out because it wasn't just to her parents. She also wrote something to her best friend, Kim.
Starting point is 00:21:03 And that letter said, quote, Kim, you made me learn what a true friend is. I love you. Stay gold. She also left a note about how she wanted all the, quote, good usable parts of her body to be donated to those who needed them. So another very, very strange thing to write.
Starting point is 00:21:25 Like what are the chances that she would be murdered and mutilated and then she happened to write these things earlier and even say this about her body? It's so crazy. So to the frustration of her grieving parents, her case did grow stagnant alongside Barbara's and their families didn't even know about the marrying cases actually until 2008. Like so many years passed without each family knowing about the other family, which is also
Starting point is 00:21:51 wild, because in 2008 they were uploaded side by side into the San Diego cold case website and police indicated that they believed that the cases were linked. For decades, the cases went without any leads until 2012. Though both girls were killed before the proliferation of DNA testing, there were swabs taken from each of them, and those swabs eventually linked Claire Hough to two men. One was a serial rapist from the area, and the other was an investigator. I'm out. In November of 2012, DNA found on Claire's jeans linked her to a serial rapist who had spent his entire life committing brutal crimes against women. Ronald Clyde Tatro was born and raised in Illinois and described as a loner and the black sheep of his family.
Starting point is 00:23:30 He served in the army for six years and then moved to the police force after he was discharged. But just two years into his service as an officer in Hot Springs, Arkansas, he was arrested for assault and battery. Now, he claimed that he went home with a woman that he thought was a sex worker. But when he discovered that she was not, he beat her out
Starting point is 00:23:53 of frustration. What? Yeah, it gets even more wild than that. Like as if that's OK? Like, oh man, I thought she was a sex worker, so I'm just going to beat her. Not? No?
Starting point is 00:24:02 What? Why would you do that? But before he even began serving his sentence for that crime, he was arrested for a kidnapping and sexual assault in 1975. He kidnapped a retail employee, raping her at knife point, beating her, and then leaving her for dead in a field. Now thankfully both of these women did survive, but Ronald posed a very clear threat to society. When asked his motivation for the latter rape, he claimed that his wife was raped by a police
Starting point is 00:24:34 officer so he abducted and raped that police officer's sister. However, this claim was never corroborated and it's probably pure bullshit. So after his second brutal attack on a woman, he checked into a psychiatric center for evaluation due to a self-proclaimed compulsion to rape. That's what he said. Eugh. A compulsion to rape. This guy is a complete piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:25:00 According to the psychiatrist who evaluated him ahead of his trial, Ronald had quote, no control over his violent and lustful physical urges towards women, which apparently he had been plagued with since his childhood. He was diagnosed with obsessive compulsive disorder and found to have difficulty subduing his impulses. So he was sentenced to 40 years behind bars, but get this people, he only served 8. That is unacceptable. Yeah, it's just not right.
Starting point is 00:25:31 So after being released on April 1st, 1982, he relocated to San Diego, California for a fresh start. Which was just over a couple years before Claire was murdered. But despite all of this, Ronald managed to trick another unsuspecting woman into marrying him, and the two had children together. After their inevitable divorce, his ex-wife, Sharon, told investigators that he had frequently bound and raped her, and that he also confessed to raping and potentially murdering a young woman while driving across country. When Sharon heard that her ex-husband was a suspect in Claire's 1984 rape and murder,
Starting point is 00:26:14 she was, as the reporter who interviewed her said, quote, sad but unsurprised. Sharon explained, quote, I have been expecting this to come up, but not in San Diego. Ron told me that he had raped a girl on his way home from Fort Lewis, Washington. He thought he had killed her and left her for dead. And actually, Sharon didn't even really believe him at first. She thought that he was, I mean, this is not something that somebody would joke about anyway, but she probably just didn't want to believe it because it was such a horrific thing to hear. And maybe she was terrified of him anyway
Starting point is 00:26:48 because she didn't tell law enforcement right away, but she did tell them later. So six months before Claire's murder, Ronald was a suspect in the murder of a local sex worker, 22 year old Carol Ann DeFlees. She was brutally stabbed to death on Friday, February 25th, 1984, after telling a friend that she had a date. Now her case remains unsolved and
Starting point is 00:27:13 Ronald was never formally connected to her murder, but then on June 25th, 1985, Ronald was arrested yet again for abduction and sexual assault. So in that situation, Ronald approached a 16 year old girl whose car had broken down and he offered her a ride. But when she was safely inside his vehicle or unsafely inside of his vehicle, thank you. Yes. So true. Ronald used a stun gun on her to disable her and then began driving her somewhere where he could sexually assault her. Now thankfully the victim was able to escape and Ronald was arrested and he served two
Starting point is 00:27:53 years in a California prison. This infraction violated the terms of his parole back in Arkansas as you can imagine, so he was sent back and forced to complete the rest of his 40 year sentence. Hallelujah, finally. But that didn't work again because he was released early once again, this time in January of 1997. And three years later,
Starting point is 00:28:18 he was arrested for an attempt to sexually assault a coworker. So no matter what, this guy is not stopping. He will get out of prison and do it again. No, yeah, just throw him in a cell, throw away the key. Lock the man away. And here's how he connects to Claire's case. Now, Ronald Tetro's DNA was found in eight of the blood stains on Claire's jeans,
Starting point is 00:28:42 as well as on the zipper flap, which was torn, and in three of the stains on her underwear so this is a lot there is there's no way this DNA would get there if he was not involved in her murder absolutely this wasn't just like oh you know we found a piece of his hair on her shirt like he's in the blood stains he's on her undergarments. He's involved, right? Yeah, he is absolutely cooked at this point. So finally confident that they had a suspect after nearly 30 years, the San Diego Police Department
Starting point is 00:29:14 sought him out for questioning, but Ronald had died the year prior. On Wednesday, August 24th, 2011, Ronald drowned in what seemed to be a mysterious boating accident. His body was pulled from the Holston River in Sir Goensville, Tennessee after what looked like a routine fishing outing. The medical examiner listed his cause of death as accidental, but investigators noted that
Starting point is 00:29:42 he had neatly lined up his belongings, like his wallet, his hat, and his glasses inside the boat. The Tennessee Wildlife Resources Agency wrote in their report, quote, It appears Mr. Tetro prepared to go into the water. Also, his autopsy revealed that he had ingested sleeping pills before going underwater, so take that how you will. And also, just so you know, this happened on the anniversary of Claire's death, so may or may not be connected there, too. In January of 2014, investigators received yet another hit on the DNA recovered at the scene of Claire's murder. A very tiny amount of DNA was found on a vaginal swab that was linked to a man named Kevin Brown. But shockingly, he was one of their own.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Kevin worked as a criminalist for the San Diego Police Department crime laboratory until his retirement in 2002. So this guy's supposed to be helping the case, but a microscopic amount of Kevin's seminal fluid was found on Claire's genital swab. So, this definitely could have been a confirmed link to his involvement, but it just wasn't that cut and dry. Both Kevin's lawyers and fellow criminalists who had worked alongside him in the lab attest to the possibility of cross contamination.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Kevin was working in the same lab in which Claire's DNA was being tested, though he did not handle her case. Interesting. Right, so from 1982 to 1985, Kevin was working as a forensic analyst in the serology division of the San Diego Police Department crime lab, analyzing fluids such as blood, semen, and saliva. Though it sounds pretty outlandish, employees would occasionally bring in their own seminal fluid to test as a control subject.
Starting point is 00:31:37 Without DNA technology, male lab analysts took to using their own semen samples to test evidence against against and were admittedly not very careful about avoiding cross-contamination. The San Diego Police Department insists that this was not a possibility in Claire's case however announcing quote, we have absolute confidence that there is no basis for any cross-contamination. So they're admitting admitting that in some cases in their lab could have been possible at different times but in this case it's not possible. There is no cross contamination meaning if Kevin's fluid was found in a sample taken
Starting point is 00:32:18 from Claire's crime scene then he must in some way be involved and have had contact before Claire's murder with Claire. Exactly, and we are going to talk a little bit more about that here in just a second. But I mean, either way, Kevin was a pretty surprising choice for a murderous co-conspirator. I mean, he was a man of the law, a church-going retiree who loved to garden and fish, and he was a devoted husband to his wife of 20 years whose name is Rebecca. According to Rebecca, he was gentle, sweet, kind, and quote, one of the good ones, but detectives working this case were not entirely sure. Well, now that they were confident that at least Ronald Tetra was involved,
Starting point is 00:33:06 Well, now that they were confident that at least Ronald Tetra was involved, they considered the possibility that the men had teamed up to assault and murder Claire Hough. Here's the thing, when Kevin was brought in for questioning, he claimed that he had never met nor heard of Ronald, but then his bachelor pass before meeting Rebecca came under a little bit of scrutiny. Co-workers claim that his nickname had been Kinky because of his antics outside of work. And due to his kind of meek nature, he struggled to meet women. So before his marriage, he apparently frequented a lot of strip clubs, and he hired a boudoir photographer to take nude photos of women. And obviously none of this is illegal or inherently bad or negative at all,
Starting point is 00:33:51 but we're mentioning it because even after he started working in the lab, a female co-worker of his, again in the lab, complained that he put on a pornographic film at work and once read aloud to her a passage from the report of a sexual assault and told her that he thought it was funny. So obviously both of those things are just incredibly unprofessional and super red flaggy. But in Claire's case, Kevin is saying that he wasn't involved at all. Again, he didn't know Ronald.
Starting point is 00:34:23 So he said, hey, I'll take a polygraph examination to to clear my name. But crazy enough this only made things worse. Because during it, he was shown a picture of Claire and indicated that he knew her, but later said that he meant that he knew of her case, which of course was infamous in the area. When Kevin was told that DNA found on her genital swab linked him to her, he said quote I must have had sex with her. Like saying essentially he can't remember and maybe this is a somebody that he had a consensual sexual relationship with but remember this Claire was only 14 years old so he assumed
Starting point is 00:35:04 I guess that they were referring to an ex-girlfriend of his whose name was Claire. This is kind of how he backed that up, oh, I thought you were talking about somebody else. Because back in the 80s, Kevin had dated somebody named Claire who was in her late 20s. When asked if he had sex with or killed Claire Hough, he again said said no and the polygraph examination indicated deception When asked if he knew or was associated with Ronald Tetra Kevin said no but the test question came back as inconclusive Well at this point investigators had heard enough the San Diego Police Department served the home of Kevin and Rebecca with a search warrant and removed more than a dozen
Starting point is 00:35:48 boxes of evidence. But Kevin felt the world was closing in on him and Rebecca was so concerned about her husband's well-being that she asked her brother to remove all the guns from their home. But in October of 2014, her worst nightmare came to fruition. When Rebecca returned home that day, she found out that Kevin wasn't there. He had left behind a Bible turned to a passage highlighted about being wrongfully accused. Then, the following day, which was October 21st, 62-year-old Kevin was found hanging from a tree in Cuyamaca Rancho State Park near where he and his wife owned a cabin. Rebecca said sadly quote, I totally understand why he did it.
Starting point is 00:36:33 He knew that there would be people who would think even if he went to court and was found not guilty that would believe it and this was going to tarnish his reputation that he prided himself in. Three days after he ended his life, the SDPD publicly named Kevin Brown as a suspect in Claire's murder. After his death, Rebecca Brown filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the police department, and she actually won six million dollars. Her attorneys argued that there were no actual sperm cells found on or inside Claire's body, not Kevin's or Ronald's or anyone else's. Her autopsy revealed a single vaginal laceration, but the autopsy could not confirm whether
Starting point is 00:37:16 it had been sexual or performed with an object. Kevin's DNA was later found on the corner swab of Claire's mouth and genitals after he had been exposed to it inside the lab. Though Rebecca maintains her husband's innocence, both the San Diego Police Department and Claire's parents Penny and Sam say that they are absolutely confident in the findings and believe that it's possible that the men acted together. But unfortunately, I mean, so many questions remain, and even more so in the murder of Barbara Nantes,
Starting point is 00:37:50 whose investigation, 46 years later, has yet to name a single suspect. So if Ronald is involved in Claire's, it's impossible for him to be involved in Barbara's, because he was imprisoned in Arkansas at that same time that she was murdered So it's just so hard to know what to say here because their their cases were so Unbelievably similar almost everything was identical and yet there is no connection in DNA or suspects So what is the answer here? Well, on top of this, Kevin and Barbara didn't have any sort of connection at all, and he was actually in school in Sacramento at the time of her murder.
Starting point is 00:38:33 So yeah, still, so it's not possible for either of those two people suspected of Claire's murder to be behind Barbara's, but there's no way that just by chance they're the same. So is there another suspect that committed both of these murders and Ronald and Kevin really aren't involved at all, which again, it's hard to believe because of how much of Ronald's DNA was found at the scene of Claire's murder. So it's so confusing, but what makes it even more so is since the announcement of the connection of Ronald Tetra and Kevin Brown to Claire's murder,
Starting point is 00:39:06 police have concluded that the cases of Barbara and Claire were not connected. It's so weird to me that there was no connection between these two murders that essentially looked exactly the same. And you know, then you have to wonder if this is a copycat situation, or again, if there is
Starting point is 00:39:26 a connecting suspect that police have not been able to find yet. But strangely, another teen was murdered on this very beach near where the girls were found just months after Barbara's murder. And his case remains unsolved as well. So that story goes, on the morning of May 17, 1979, a bicyclist came upon 14-year-old Adam Ashley's body lying in the sand on Torrey Pines State Beach, near Lifeguard Tower 4. It was the day before his 15th birthday and sadly, he wasn't even reported missing until after he was already dead. And his murder was somewhat similar in the way that he had been bludgeoned in the head and discarded in the sand, but there has never been any suspects in the case. So are these cases connected or are they completely unrelated?
Starting point is 00:40:20 Well, it is very interesting that all three of these bodies were found near lifeguard towers They were on the exact same beach. They were all bludgeoned to death I mean it is so strange and also they were killed within this six-year period Yeah, and again it's so such close proximity like you said lifeguard towers four five and seven So all in the very same area all all had been bludgeoned, all were laying dead on the sand, all were teenagers. I mean, it's a little bit different that Adam was a male, but does it mean like, I don't know, again,
Starting point is 00:40:56 what are the chances that three teenagers happened to be murdered in almost the exact same spot in such similar circumstances across six years of time, and they're all committed by different people. This is a safe area. This is a very public beach. It's a beautiful area.
Starting point is 00:41:14 What are the chances? I don't know. I don't know. Yeah, it's very confusing to me. Well, if you have any information about the murder of Barbara Nantes or any of the murders at Torrey Pines State Beach, please call the San Diego Police Department at 619-531-2000. Thank you so much everybody for listening to this episode of Going West.
Starting point is 00:41:50 Yes, thank you guys so much for listening to this episode. If you want to see photos of this episode and all the other cases that we've covered on Going West, head on over to our socials. We're on Instagram at Going West podcast and we're also on Facebook. Yes, we'd love to know your thoughts on this case I know there's not a ton to really go off here, but the circumstances are just too similar for me to be comfortable Yeah, absolutely. So thank you guys again, and we will see you on Tuesday Alright guys, so for everybody out there in the world, don't be a stranger Thanks for watching!

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