Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 11 - Autograph Guys with Stefan Heck and Chris James

Episode Date: April 25, 2023

I had  Chris James and Stefan Heck on to discuss Autograph Guys, while there was some disagreement on what makes an autograph guys I think we landed on a decent definition, we learned about the biggest rube that we have ever heard about on the show and we also talked a bit about our own guy tendencies Chris is at Not Even A Show  Stefan is on Blocked Party and Go Off Kings Music by Zachary Fairbrother @avantlard

welcome to guys a podcast about guys my name is brian i am your host and i have with me this week Brian, I am your host and I have with me this week, my son, Chris James. Did you use that one? I think I've already used that one. I just didn't think of one earlier. And yesterday, well, you missed it on the softball guys episode when I called you a nasty creep. Yeah, well, that yeah, you felt a little bit, I guess, emboldened because I was not on the beginning of that episode. I joined late. So, yeah, that was with that was with john hey wait we haven't introduced you

hey i'm sorry uh well the other person i have with me is stephan heck from blocked party what's up stephan and a golf king yeah hey brian hey chris how's it going chris is like uh chris is like a block away from me right now like that's true yeah i should have just come over and we could have recorded in person i thought about that i thought this is one of the few episodes where we could do it semi in person but then i was like i don't want i don't want you over here well of course and and i stink right now i need to have a shower right now oh i just had one so i'm doing really well well i had a shower this morning just to be clear but i i feel like my little office space gets very it's very warm up here for it's like unseasonably warm i would say for yeah

the climate is the climate's sort of been i've noticed it's changing a little bit it's not changing it's nice it's really nice yeah i mean i love it don't get me wrong but uh yeah no i'm i'm very happy to be here guys is uh i think it's the best new podcast of 2023 i mean thank you that's such a nice thing to say so nice i'm excited i'm hoping like vulture notices it sometimes i mean you've been having just this like i think you even use this term yourself like a murderer's row of guests it's been it's been incredible and yeah and like so you you just had uh john cullen i think they can smell the desperation i believe is why they're not i was like that through the whole early run of street fight too where it's like oh fucking look

at the numbers and all these people are listening we have all these guests and now it's like just well look vulture vulture put block party on their on their top so but but to me it felt like last year i was like oh we didn't do anything like super special or anything right and so that almost felt like to me when they give like a really old guy an oscar when he's like yeah i for a movie that's not as good as some of his other performances yeah or even just like an honorary one too because we were 10th on the list we weren't like number one or anything so yeah well 10th is still like it's still good i mean and best podcast yeah but there were none better than us i guess so well i mean that's just

a few though i'm looking right now and i wanted to say i've i wanted to do this on the 10th episode but this is the 11th episode even though i could make this the 10th episode sure but i promised stuff at the end of the show because i'm a fucking idiot yeah and i thought that at the beginning of this show we could we could take stock and maybe we could the three of us could talk about like what kind of have you found out that you're some kind of guy now oh yeah like how many kinds of guys do you think you are this is this sort of ties into this episode, kind of. Like a little bit, I would say.

But I'm definitely... Oh, that's definitely a guy. I'm definitely, in the last two years, I have become like a hockey card guy or like a sports card guy. Like 100%. It's insane. It's crazy.

It's crazy. I remember... He really is one, for sure. Yes. I remember... Like me and Chris's dad go to the same like hobby show every month. Oh, by the way, Stephan, we're going to the big one. You're away from that one.

No, I'm away that. I know. I know. That's too bad. There's a big regional sports card show. I went to it last time I was here. It was fucking awesome. Oh, it's really off the chains.

And yeah, so I guess we're sort of learning that Stefan and I kind of both are sports card guys. You've sort of been getting into it a little bit more recently as well. Your dad got you all those soccer cards. My whole childhood, I was obsessed with it. And my dad was. And we collected certain players. My dad has a crazy collection. He has Mickey Mantle.

I would love to see his collection. It's in a safety deposit box. Oh, that's so cool. I have a real funny. I had a real funny friend growing up who was like i mean he wasn't funny but he was stupid and he was like uh you're all collecting specific players and i didn't watch baseball i was just like i like jose canseco and uh ricky henderson so i just collected choices good choice yeah i had a a's hat I used to wear, but I should buy another one of those now.

But I basically, I collected Jose Canseco, Ricky Anderson. My brother collected Kirby Puckett and Frank Thomas. And his dude, all really cool players. Yeah. This dude was like,

I know who I'm going to collect. Robin Yount. And it was just because he saw that his rookie card was worth $160. Okay. I have to tell you guys something. And this is a huge reveal to the guy's audience. I collected a certain baseball player growing up. And he is known as the nerdiest baseball player in the history of the world.

Oh, wow. And his name is. I don't know if I know who it is. Who is it? Greg Maddox. Oh, hell yeah. Okay. So Greg Maddox was a legendary pitcher.

One of the best of all time. One of the best for real. But he was like the professor, they called him. And he was just so nerdy and uncool. And I don't know how i ended up deciding to collect his cards i i cannot explain it i don't think i was a nerd at the time but for some reason i i gravitated to him i think collecting is this is i think the first episode that we've talked about collecting and and i kind of i find it to be a very like you

the fact that you guys i'm not insulting well i'm kind of insulting you i think it's a very weird thing to be into and and especially the guys we're talking about this week here in a little bit autograph guys how was your leg how's your lego doing hey fuck you man you see it's right behind me and is that a roller coaster oh i think you're telling me a rolly coaster with a look very very fucking cool i mean i'm not joking i the thing behind him right now yeah it looks cool yeah it does look cool let me tell you what's really sad about my lego collection now uh i never collected anything in my life like i and and i got into these fucking legos and i built a jazz club which that's what you know i think maybe because i feel like the jazz club is like on the that's like

if you're doing lego there's like others on the list that you do before that maybe right yeah and he has yeah no i think you're it's a good point i think when you're starting to get into those sort of different like a jazz club and stuff like think it's a good point. I think when you're starting to get into those sort of different, like a jazz club and stuff like that, it's like, yeah, you might be a guy. Brian, do you like jazz? No, but I also have a jazz band. Well, of course. Yeah, well, who's going to play? Who's going to play at the club? So I buy this jazz club and it's a modular building and I didn't have any. I have a building.

I have a haunted house. Yeah, that is a really huge one. But it's sort of part of the Lego amusement park collection where this roller coaster is also from, too. But it does. But I found out that modular buildings connect to each other to make like a neighborhood. So I bought a boutique hotel and built that and attached them together and then i started googling like modular buildings and i found out there i have them all except for the police station which i'm thinking about buying which would be really problematic for me

but you could maybe you could like like try like trash it or something you could look like it's like on fire totally you could do something you should add some things or like you know take some holes out of it maybe there's like a dinosaur attacking it or something like there's that's the thing with lego the only limit is your imagination well when what happened is and and wall and it's very expensive so it's quite pricey yeah yeah but i've had people in on this show don't know but i remember checking four months into me collecting legos and i had spent four thousand dollars oh yeah and i did cards are the same way it's fucking because cards are it's also like a form of like it's just gambling straight up because you unless you're

buying like the single cards like separately which is like what i do that's the smart thing to do and i do do that as well but there is something very fun and it is just it is just gambling but like opening a pack and like maybe like well for instance because i've got them right here i mean stefan and i have done some because we live so close to each other now we have actually he's he's had me come over and open some hockey trade cards yeah some packs and and it is we got some good ones oh some like i wish you had been here for for this one though chris because that that was the big one, right? Oh, my goodness.

This is like a $1,500 card, probably. I pulled this out of a random pack, and it was just like, holy fuck. An autographed game autograph? You got to say what it is, Stefan. It's an audio podcast. It's an audio podcast. This is Conor Bedard, who's going to be the next big thing in the NHL.

It's an autographed. An autographed, and also, what is it's a it's an autograph an autograph and also like what what is it of is it uh it's like team canada it's not numbered or anything oh it's not it's not numbered but no i mean how many are still very very rare i think if you look at the odds online because they have the odds for like each like autograph card it's like one in like a hundred thousand packs or something wow so that is cool have you had that checked with a certificate of authenticity which is something i learned about over no that's not how it works it's a card it's a card so these ones are yeah these ones it'll say on the back you know uh the upper deck company uh

this card was signed in the presence of a representative of the upper deck company and it's certified as to its authenticity but if you get a card if you get a card yeah yeah if you get a card signed like you could just get like a base card and bring it to like a show and get it signed by someone there then you'd have to get that authenticated do you guys do uh uh autographs i mean i a lot of my cards have autographs on them like those are the ones you want just to be clear for this episode what we are talking about because i'm not sure i'm 100% clear. It is somebody like Stefan who's pulling an autograph out of a... That's not an autograph guy.

It's the guys waiting at shows and stuff to get autographs. Trying to get autographs live. You know what I found to be... I figured out what an autograph guy was yesterday on the Reddit slash autographs. guy was yesterday on uh the reddit slash autographs and um i think to become an autograph guy you have to go and buy something with a signature on it and not know who that person is and then go to reddit and say do you guys know who this person is you see that in in sports subreddits all the time like the canucks subreddit someone will post like a sweater or like a hat i'd be like do you guys know who signed this and a lot of people can recognize the signatures

it's pretty impressive so i would say that that that's good to me and i don't want to i don't i never like to disagree with brian but i would to me that doesn't feel as much because that feels like that's somebody who's just gone to a game maybe and gotten it signed by someone randomly but doesn't do it that often and so is now asking you know who is this even like that's at least the thing stefan's describing i mean i think if you're collecting that's the road to becoming one i think that's that's true that's true you're i think you're right there but to me like an these are real autograph people who dedicate their entire life to go traveling around and finding celebrities at events or whatever and having

them autograph things for them like that's a that's a subculture of person right it is yeah but like i said i think that anybody who uh i watched a video yesterday of a guy who went on amazon and searched autographs and uh found a christian rock band that he had never heard of but they had autographed cds for sale and he bought them and got them authenticated and it's like we don't even fucking know who the guy is like yeah you know and he's explaining well this guy's notoriously hard to get an autograph from because he lives out in the middle of nowhere so he's rarely out and signing stuff so he knows him as an autographer he doesn't know him he doesn't even like his music oh hang on one second oh i hear it yeah of course you hear it but hey hang on and

just you guys continue on i'm gonna mute myself because i spoke to the contractors about this specific time and them not drilling and they were and they were in agreement so just give me one second that's okay yeah that's cool yeah i'm gonna be rude to them but this is ridiculous as far as of course this is insane but yeah with with i think that if you're buying an autograph and you don't know the person or i mean the type of person and i've seen this happen uh you know honestly it like happened to me a couple times when we were touring where the fans will find you right around the building i mean i was always standing outside smoking anyway it wasn't like i was fucking hiding from them or anything but they'll find you and say hey can you sign my

poster can you sign this and then just random people on the street also walked up to you to me i was like uh who are you yeah it's like who cares i remember i feel like i think we we did some signings at uh at the blocked party live show and it's like i mean i think it's like semi ironic on some level probably but it still it still feels and also i feel like my signature isn't very good either but oh i learned something about that actually um yeah yeah if when i i have to wait till chris gets here because uh i i read a piece about a guy who teaches celebrities how to make an autograph oh that's cool because that okay that is one thing this sort of slides in with with my card collecting is there's so with autographs there's an issue right now um chris is back here he is hi chris there is an issue right

now um in like nba cards nfl cards where a lot of the autographs are sticker autographs because it's faster to get players to sign them that way and the on card autographs are obviously much more valuable because it means like the player actually like handled the card briefly right yeah um but the other thing is and you see this with a lot of like the younger players is their autograph it's just literally like there's a there's a player uh i think he played on the clippers his name was brandon boston jr and his autograph was just literally in like all caps bb well it looks horrible it's awful i mean what are we doing here stephan i'll tell you this uh when i was growing up and I got I've talked about this before, but I got into Korn in like 94. Yeah.

And so they played very small venues when I was going to see him early on. And I walked. I found Jonathan Davis. Lead singer was out there. And I was like, I got to get this guy's fucking autograph. And he signed it, but he it h i v but in the shape of a smiley face it's just like you're you just gave you just wrote on my ticket stub at that point nobody's gonna know that yeah there's no way to get that authenticated unless there's like a

picture of him doing it right yeah yeah and i i was i was kind of mad about it same thing i got fred durst too and he signed it fred biscuit which i think is fine that's sure yeah that's okay but what i was saying here uh so peter chan on quora was answering a question uh when celebrities sign autographs do they worry about being tricked into signing a pre-written contract with i would i guess i guess you could do that in a way where like you give them like a sheet of paper that's like folded or something and it's like there would be a way to do that probably right yeah he says from my experience i don't think so yeah i used to work in the f and b department of a large listed company in hong kong that owned a record label i don't know what fmb is

so an entertainment company we used to sponsor many of the stars gathering so i got to know them well and here's here's where he gives gives you the story oh food and beverage right oh okay yeah there were two types of autographs those signed on cds photos souvenirs which were done by assistants and those actually signed by the stars themselves on the spot in different occasions. In their early days, these stars would have signatures designed specifically for them, which they and their assistants would practice signing diligently. These design signatures were supposed to be elaborate, cool, unique, and identifiable. Most important of all, they're not the signatures they'd use in their private business

such as signing a check now right that makes sense i guess it's weird though i don't know i can't imagine that's true that that they that like they get lessons they have a sec yeah they have like a secondary signature for signing stuff i i can see it i mean celebrities are insane so yeah but i mean you hit a level of what what What level of famous are they like, hey, you're going to need to. I think, yeah, once you're giving away like signed books or signed copies of CDs and stuff like that, I could see it being necessary then. But so I was going to ask you about this. This seems like this is maybe an adjacent type of guy, but sort of similar. But the guys who go and there's one guy in particular i think

his name is zach something and he goes to baseball games to try and catch uh fly balls um it's the same sort of vibe i feel like as the autograph hawks right i mean for me it is that thing like you said it earlier when you said uh that it feels like you get a piece of celebrity, like because it, somebody has signed it. And I really do think a lot of these guys are just like, first of all, I think a lot of them are just dealers. It feels like it doesn't feel like you're getting a ton of people who have an autograph book that follow people around

no i did that at disneyland when i went where you get like the mascots to sign shit for you and you get the little autograph book and that was fun as a kid but like i i do think you're right that a lot of the guys they're like trying to get a football signed or trying to get some sort of piece of memorabilia signed and i think that's crazy to like like i i was reading a frequently asked questions by a guy who like parries like he he carries a stack of uh like pictures with him all the time just in case yeah it's crazy i'm actually read you this guy's thing because it was was interesting to me, uh, the, the way that he talked about it. Um,

here's one of the questions here. This is from a frequently asked questions on autograph university. Okay. And the question is which hotel hotel does blank, uh, insert sports team stay at and which city. And, uh,

he goes, this is by far the most frequently asked questions I receive. Hotel info is gold and no one should be surprised why it's so closely guarded. I can understand the frustration of collectors who get stonewalled when trying to get intel, but you have to understand the perspective of those informed graphers, which that's kind of. Oh, my God. Yeah. But it worked.

Here's what I'll say. And I promise this is the only question question which i'll skirt around hotel info tends to pass by word of mouth and the best way to connect with other graphers is to be active out there in the field and build relationships i rarely run into someone who is unwilling to share a bit of info once they see me putting the time in and open to reciprocating teams when he when when he me putting the time in and open to reciprocating teams when he when when he says putting the time and he means like standing outside of a place for several hours waiting for someone to show up i know the hotel that uh hockey teams stay at when they come here

yeah same same here in vancouver it's the one where like every selects i think it's called sutton place downtown and it's where like all the celebrities stay it's the hilton downtown here and yeah when hockey season's going on and i'm walking down the street i see the actual autograph guys standing out like you probably see the big bus outside too like there's all these it's like he's saying it like it's like really like hotly guarded information but like it's literally just like look up like maybe the most expensive hotel in your city or like second most expensive hotel and just like go there when there's a you know a team is in town and look for the bus like that's all all you have to do yeah and yeah you're right it's the most expensive hotel in town basically that's i mean maybe yeah like second it's the hilton here yeah

like they'll be like boutique hotels that might be more expensive but like it's the most expensive like big hotel probably right and i think the weirdest thing about it, when I saw it, because, you know, I walk every day, and, like, I walk downtown, and I walk where a hotel is. And, like, when the people are waiting out for autographs, there's no fucking kids, dude. There's not a single fucking kid standing out there. There's not really anybody under like 30 no i think the kids will i feel like the kids will wait at the actual game itself because they're just like well they're gonna be here like after the game so they'll wait outside the stadium maybe um or they'll be like um you'll see them like with hockey at least like there's like the tunnel like

the entrance tunnel right and? And they'll be leaning over asking people to sign stuff. But I also feel like as an athlete, if a kid asks you to sign something, you're going to do it. But if a 40-year-old guy asks you and you know he's going to try and sell it, why would you do it? You see videos of that all the time. And I'm back finally from dealing with all of that. It was really... The contractor is so nice and everything, but they got stuck and then they were behind schedule. And it's really my, I just want to say to everybody, I really, I, it's really, it's really, really hard because I moved into this apartment. And for those of you who don't know, I don't know if I've mentioned it explicitly on this podcast, but I moved into this apartment.

They did not disclose to me that they were going to start building a restaurant one week after I moved in directly below me. And so it is unlivable. And the noise is un-fucking-bearable. It was crazy. I couldn't believe that. That sound, you guys heard it? So that sound is constant throughout the day in my apartment. Well, John's dealing with that too right now, right?

Because they're tearing off the entire front of his apartment, and it's so loud. Man, it is. So anyways, we wouldn't have moved in here had we known that, because I, of course, work from home, and I record things like this. During the day, too. During the daytime.

And so it has not been great, and I apologize to everyone. But yeah, I was just going to say, you see videos where people are turning down autographs, because they know, I've seen you before. Oh, yeah. That's another thing. I recognize you. You're a classic guy.

Yeah. You're not going to go put this in a display case at home. No, you're going to try and sell this on eBay. Right. the reading these these frequently asked questions like the the kind of um the i'll read this one the the the way these people act uh one of the questions is why do current celebrities slash athletes have such lousy signing habits where it's like like what do you suppose what do you mean by that yeah i i suppose maybe it's just things are a little different they're like i feel like celebrities are so much more accessible i don't know wouldn't

that make it easier to get autographs though i don't know yeah it says the commercialization of autographs the greed of dealers and collectors who supplement their income pay for hobby by ebaying items it's all the same to the celeb and the volume of requests that celebs get hit with are all affecting signing habits the best thing you can do is be a courteous fan and show them there are still appreciative collectors out there which pretty good answer the question though was like felt so entitled to me like yeah what do you mean signing habits yeah yeah i think that it's it that does make sense so they're probably just getting inundated with requests all the time nowadays compared to before so it just

must get a little bit exhausting if you're a huge celebrity well i'm going to teach you guys some uh little autograph uh little autograph um vocabulary and that is ttm and uh ttm can you guess what that stands it's autograph related takes time nah tries try tries too much uh oh something too much might be good right talks too much but that wouldn't yeah i wouldn't like i don't think too much might be good, right? Talks too much, but that wouldn't. Yeah, I wouldn't. I don't think we're going to get it. It was one of those ones where it's like, it felt like we were going to be able to get it. And then immediately started doing it.

It was like, no, this is nowhere near this. Yeah. You will feel like, oh God, I should have got it through the mail. Oh, that wouldn't have ever gotten that. So that's like, like sending stuff to like a, someone's like agent or manager or something and then yeah sign and sent back to you that's so impersonal though mail mail that's that's called snail mail that's what i mean that's what i mean by like i think to be an autograph guy

you fucking look at the top 20 most famous people in the world and send them an index card in the mail that is a twisted fucking thing to do especially if you don't give a fuck about any of them like it feels if the autograph guy is so disconnected from from the act of like let's see yes it's not a fan thing that's what you're not the fandom is in the autograph it is like a bird watcher the rare that's what they're saying like the person who's like oh this person lives way out there and they rarely come out that's the same as just like a bird watcher this is a rare bird rare and it never that's what they're interested in they don't care how famous the bird is oh man i'm gonna go take a

picture of an eagle oh wow there's the most famous bird i would say eagle i think eagle is most um famous famous bird eagle is very famous a pigeon's very famous as well i mean i mean obviously some people are saying tweety beard big bird things like that but no we're talking about anich. I think I honestly think Eagle might be the one. But yeah, my point is that that's not the most exciting one to see. No, because you see it all the time. Because it's just because it's famous doesn't make it good. It's all about seeking it out and finding the rarities, Brian. Yeah, for sure.

Well, this other question on our frequently asked questions was one I found interesting. And that is is my man, I have all the respect for you, but can you keep this website to a minimum? All these new people come out for graphs and it fucks up my damn business. Keep the autograph business to those of us that know what we're doing. Not some schmuck with a computer that can Google how to get an autograph. All these idiots show up at hotels and nobody signs anymore because there are 75 of them out there waving around their cards and eight by ten so that was more of a comment than a question yeah i'm not sure where the question was there was no inflection at the end where it

sounded like a question no no but yeah that that sort of just feels like he's he's a little bit sour grapes but i just are they really acting that much different than him? Or is it just that there's now more people? He's just mad that there's more people doing it, I think. That's all it is. He's doing it. Yeah, what does he mean? Like, that is what he's...

He just described what he's doing. Yeah, what does he do? Does he not wave his 8x10? I guess he probably comes up and he probably says... He probably knows what you're supposed to do. Professional to professional, you know? Hey, listen, Hey, you know, Robert De Niro, Bobby, you know, like he's like, you know, like, yeah, yeah. Oh, Hey, what's going on, Dimitri?

Like he's like a well-known autographer. I mean, some of them are like that. I think, like I said, I think they actually get treated poorly by the celebrities maybe because they know they're just trying to profit off of them and they should it's like i said i think the only person and maybe this is me being a dick maybe some autograph guy i'll listen only people should be getting autographs are kids and yeah they they're not selling them it's like when i see five 45 year old men standing outside of a hotel i'm just like come on man like can't you can't this be like an activity you do with your kid or something like that and so they don't have children i don't think probably yeah i think a lot of them are barren but um a lot of

them are childless but i mean i'm thinking about it i guess there are so i'm thinking about jim norton and i don't know if you were going to bring Jim Norton out, Brian. Okay. But I was thinking about him, and he. We'd love to talk Greaseman, too, if we have some time. No, no, no. This is related to autographs, Stephan. I'm not just bringing him up.

We can get some Greaseman in later. Okay, thank you. But, yeah, Jim Norton. Well, we don't have to. We're doing a lot on guys, probably more than necessary. But Jim Norton likes getting his picture taken, likes getting the autographs and stuff. And he is not selling them. He is a grown man who is going and doing it all the time.

But he is just putting them up in his house. I guess those people do exist as well. But that seems like an even more bizarre guy. It's weirder, but like better at least. Right it is it's weirder but like better at least right because it's just that purely is like a hobby thing i don't know if i was just thinking about it a little bit and i just thought what why shouldn't who's losing out that these guys are profiting off of the celebrities on it sign a couple autographs for the people so they can turn a profit on it in this fucking economy it's just just annoying more than anything. I'm like a guy.

I said this to Stefan when you were gone, but like when we would go on tour, like people would ask for our signatures on posters and shit and we do it. And then people that don't know us would fucking also come up and say, who are you? Like I'm fucking nobody. And they would ask for your signature too and i think that shit is so weird it doesn't actually make any sense to me those people i think just understand the like

idea of it and they're like maybe a little bit drunk and they're like hey this is a thing that you do when you really like like somebody it's an opportunity here i don't know who this person is but if someone else does and i can also let them know that like you did such a good job that i want your autograph like that's sort of the way i see it too you know that you were like did such a good job performing was this after the show brian that they asked for your autograph yeah it was oh god yeah when i go on video yeah i'm excited everybody when i get when we but i would smoke outside during shows or not during them i had to actually be on stage yeah good lord people are paying for the show brian's outside smoke hold on i gotta grab a smoke like in the middle of the show with the microphone am i no

i'd be out there smoking and like you know you sell 200 tickets you got 200 fucking fans and like a new yorker selling like 500 tickets and shit so there are a lot of people there that like you and find posters and they want your your autograph so you fucking sign it even though it's going to be worthless i mean that's cool that you went outside after your show, though, and like interact with the fans, because I did a weekend blocked party live show weekend with Stefan, who's on the show here. And I went outside to interact with all the nice people who traveled from a long way away. But Stefan was like, no, I'm going to stay out in the green room. And I waited until everyone left. He waited until everyone left and he didn't didn't interact with any of them at all.

And some of them came. One of them came from I'm not joking australia or something yeah yeah i mean but that's that's stefan's a special kind of guy it's called a green room guy exactly and uh he's very excited he's got a green room like he's in a green room right now he's literally sitting in a green room but he's excited to have a green room and by the way i was too i was always excited to have a green room yeah um but you know most of them are kind of depressing and uh this one was pretty depressing well it was kind of the whole backstage area was kind of nice it was but i mean like for the green room itself was like it was it was tiny and it was tiny and it was a lot of it was filled up with my costumes that i have there on for my live show uh so yeah that sort of took up a lot of the space

brian have you been watching because i can see down there in the recommendations and when it has the the red line at the bottom it means you've watched it if you're watching ken golden stuff yes okay that guy is insane that guy's got a lot because he does a whole he has the whole auction golden auctions or whatever right yeah i've watched a lot of this is almost all like guys related stuff really because it's got s'mores memorabilia then we got a hot ones which i read some reviews of right for the hot yeah that makes sense yeah yeah some very funny reviews of hot ones that great episode by the way yeah it's so funny for me i still for some reason can't get it out of my head the guy that thought that they gave celebrities fake hot sauce like when i

heard you're talking about that i was like i was kind of with weiger i was like that does sort of make sense i could sort of see it no way all right here we go i got some audio to play of a real hardcore autograph guy okay sports memorabilia is always in high demand and can fetch a big price but when one local man spent a fortune on dozens of prized autographs he says he was taken for a ride tonight seven investigator ross jones is looking into what went wrong and how you can protect yourself from buying phony goods. I have 65 jerseys, 30 hockey sticks, 250 hockey pucks. Paul Wedding of Auburn Hills has been... There's a lot of stuff. Very excited.

...collecting sports memorabilia for years. From Brett Favre to Tom Brady, Wayne Gretzky to Sidney Crosby. He spent thousands on a hobby he loves. Over $13,000. And he bought it all online from an internet. Just in case anybody is wondering if you're listening and you're wondering, yes, he does have a ponytail. He looks exactly the way you think he's gonna look stop buying like i read so many people getting ripped off on ebay so many fucking people just

ebay has like an authenticating uh authentication program now i guess but like it's i think you can still get completely fucked over by it yeah i used I used it for shoes. I bought a pair of shoes off there because they were cool. And here we go. Auction company out of state selling memorabilia from some of the biggest names in sports. Paul's is an incredible collection, except for one problem. I have no reason to believe any of it is real. He's got a Connor McDavid autographed jersey connor mcdavid uh autographed jersey

they're showing on the screen there's a gretzky one right next to it i think there's a gretzky king's one yeah it looks like it looks like an old king's jersey yeah the um oh man 13 grand 13 000 he doesn't i don't want to like, he seems like a working class guy too. Like his house, you know, it doesn't seem like he, like, it seems like that's a lot of money for him probably.

Oh yeah. But he definitely, he, he seems like he has a house with like a room for his memorabilia, which is like true. Yeah. I don't think he's, yeah.

I don't think that he's, I think he's doing okay. He's not broke. He's probably, he's probably like he owns a business or something. You know, that's the vibe I get from him. It was earlier this year while showing off his collection that one of his friends, another collector, pulled him aside.

I got to tell you something, Paul. This stuff's fake. All of it. All of it came from this place, Coach's Corner. Oh, Coach's Corner. Is Jerry involved? He might be. I just looked it up, by the way.

You were right. He does own a business. He owns a ponytail business. I'm joking. It's a good business to get into. That's good work. I was thinking about buying one recently. Hey, it's good honest work if you can get it, yeah.

Yeah. For sports auctions, a popular Pennsylvania-based online auction site for sports memorabilia from around the country. From signed baseballs like this one from babe ruth to sign photos like this from muhammad ali right now the website lists more than 2 000 pieces i want to say this too what they don't say this in the piece but my guess is that this shit was really cheap like cheap in a way that's like here's a wayne gretzky king jersey yeah 45 if he got because we haven't seen it's unclear if he had some of this stuff before or not yeah that's what i was gonna say a tom brady signed helmet

multiple wayne gretzky jerseys a conor mcdavid jersey a sydney crosby jersey all signed that's more than 13 000 yes guarantee it yeah most definitely the brady helmet alone would be probably like nine to ten thousand dollars i'm guessing anyone who's a real and he seems like he's a collector he would know that so i think he got the old you know not to say you should blame the victim here but maybe got a little greedy and was like gills probably you know you'd have to know in the back of your mind it's fake i'm getting a really good deal here yeah yes yes absolutely it's like when you're like this guy reminds me of like when you're a little kid and you see like and you're you're buying toys and or you go to like radio shack or whatever to buy a remote control car

and you're like oh it's a lot cheaper than i thought it would be but it ends up being the one on a cord and you have to like run behind it exactly i think everyone learns that lesson at least once and i do i do want to say it was scrolling through the website and it showed a napoleon signature and that's that's something that i think both of you will find very funny chris maybe knows about this already but a lot of times the really high end like sports sets like high end football football high-end baseball high-end basketball sets they will have cut signatures from people who are long dead so they'll cut out a piece of paper that was signed by like charles darwin or something right and it's just so funny because i'll be watching them like opening these sports cards and it'll be like barry sanders uh tom brady whatever and then because the guys who open the sports cards on

youtube are some of the stupidest people alive and i love them don't get me wrong but they're very very stupid and so funny to see them be like oh my god albert einstein oh let's go one of one einstein me and chris saw man cow's collection on uh on the stream yeah and uh he he has an albert einstein one yeah and basically mancow has a guy well john was telling me about this on a recent blocked party and it was the fucking funniest thing i've ever heard the guy who values like and just is always like oh yeah you made like double your money back on this yeah it was it's so funny watching it stephan because yeah so just to be clear he's he's he's the man cow's like friend or the man cow pays him yeah to to a price basically so so then he's like sitting there it's like every item is just like so how did he do on this way he's like well he did great i

mean it's just like everyone no matter what like john was saying one of them was like a lost in space prop from the TV show or whatever. And it's like, yeah, he like doubled his money back. There's only four of them. There's only like four of them or something like that. But yeah, he did have one that was Brian doesn't think is cool. But if it's real, it is cool. It's the first and it's not real. But if it's real, it's cool.

The first ever sketch of the of the Enterprise. There's no way. Yeah. No. Yeah. Was it Mancow who was doing the food reviews or is that Bubba? sketch of the of the enterprise there's no way yeah no he doesn't have it um what was it man cow who was doing the food reviews or is that bubble no that's but i heard about those yeah but me and chris actually saw early on in in that man cow episode he had an albert einstein autograph yeah on a letter and one of the fucking things the guy says is like uh well you know

man counts like it's on his letterhead and the guy's like well it's a different letterhead than a lot of the other stuff he signed which makes it worth more it's like you never see this letterhead in fact it's so rare i've never seen it before yeah and they spelled his name wrong and the misspelling actually doubles the value. Yeah, it's an error. It's an error card. It's an error card now, so it's actually worth a lot more. It kills me, man. These guys get ripped off. They're currently

up for auction. It doesn't have a good reputation in the industry. Kevin Keating is a nationally recognized autograph authenticator who's worked with the FBI during its investigations into the memorabilia industry when he looked at some of the items paul bought no yeah no it's the same thing yeah that's definitely a forgery yeah it's definitely not gretzky they were all really bad attempts at

forgeries oh that i wouldn't go on the news i like would not be a guy that goes on the news yeah and has the dudes sit there and say this one's terrible like how did he how did he fall for this jesus christ what's wrong with you dude like on camera the guys say like what the fuck is wrong with this guy like just the immediate like the helmet gets put in front of him nope no no no no definitely not no way just right away he was actually disgusted at what he was Like just the immediate, like the helmet gets put in front of him. Nope. Nope. Nope. Nope. No, definitely not. No way. Just right away.

He was actually disgusted at what he was looking at. Cause you can tell he's looked at so many and authenticated so many that he has like such a sort of precise view of these things. And what he was witnessing was absolute, like an absolute abomination to autograph forgeries. He was disgusted. There are signs you could look for when trying to spot fake signatures some bad forgeries can be avoided just by comparing the signature with an authenticated one found online okay that's that's that barb ruth well and also

it was like signed with like a ballpoint pen like recently is what yeah come on man that that was like yeah i think if if if it just requires you to put it up against then you deserve to be ripped i'm sorry look at this collection so there's there's like three gretzky's i think because i see i think there's a rangers gretzky off to the side there's the kings one and then maybe a team canada one down below there there's two mcdavis there's arosby. That's a Joe Burrow one right there. I'm pretty sure. Yeah. I was going to say, I think that's Joe Burrow.

You got Brett Favre. You got Tom Brady. You got, I don't know who the Steelers one is. That could be like Terry Bradshaw or something. There's a Packers Jersey on the side in front of him there too. There was a Malkin Jersey as well. Like that's way, if those are real, so much more than $13,000. Yeah.

Like so much more. 13 grand for, yeah, it's just. But the biggest red flag Keating says can be the price. A lot of people purchase items based on price comparisons. And if something is priced below what the general going rate appears to be, that should be a red flag right there. Guys trying to be nice. Yeah, the guy's like appears to be, that should be a red flag right there. The guy's trying to be nice. Yeah, the guy's trying to be nice.

It's like, this guy is a fucking doofus. They did a take where they were like, this guy's a fucking idiot. And they're like, okay, no, pull it here. Wait, we can't. Let's soften it a little bit. You got to soften it up a little bit. What a rube this guy is.

They saw him coming. Last month, our sister station in Philadelphia tried to catch up with Scott Malik, the owner of Coach's Corner. I want to talk to you about allegations you're peddling fake sports memorabilia. Let's go, Jada. Can we talk to you? No. Why can't we talk to you? Man, he didn't even deny it.

I would watch a super cut of investigative reporters um like hounding people like this yeah that's the best thing in the world to me i mean we watched one on a live block probably once it might have been with you brian but the guy getting caught jacking off in the library no i didn't but i would love to see it well it's very i mean it's pretty depressing also but it's really funny but they just go confront this guy who like lives with his parents and they're like were you pleasuring yourself in the library and he's like no I wasn't and his parents were like yelling at the

reporter and yeah that's I've seen that before I've watched it with you on the go off kings before yeah this guy not denying it is the most like he he just he said nope we're leaving let's go I think he knows at this point that the that it's that his whole thing is done yeah i think he's realized what the investigative reporters are

coming up with the cameras and because he knows this shit is fake obviously yeah yeah i don't think he's trying to try to lie a day later his general manager lee trifle called our sister station and defended the company denying fraud. He said Coach's Corner can't examine the thousands of pieces that others put up for auction each month on its site. And he estimates 20% of the lower priced items under a couple hundred bucks can be forgeries and a likely higher percentage for more expensive items. Adding, authenticating pieces is a game we can't play. items adding authenticating pieces is a game we can't play oh okay oh and they were doing the new the classic news thing of like they put the guy's face up next to the quote and then to make it to show you that he's like a bad guy they zoom in and kind of rotate the camera slightly yeah he's

smiling they find a picture of him smiling yeah and now they're showing the certificates of authenticity that coach's corner was selling with the stuff oh man provides these certificates of authenticity with each item it's so antonio brown and ben roethlisberger on the helmet okay dual signature forgery i mean i like chris said i don't like to blame victims of anything but this guy's a grown fucking man and he saw these things with prices that were impossible like what did he think they were doing well it tell what it tells me is maybe this guy got into sports memorabilia collecting recently yeah and didn't know any better that That's what I'm hoping at least. He's lucky he only spent

$13,000 because they could have got a shitload more money out of him. Probably his credit card. He's probably trying to buy more. His credit card ran out. As long as there's money to be made, there's going to be fraud. It's there's gonna be fraud it's prevalent

in any type of business and paul says he doesn't know what he's gonna do with all that memorabilia he now knows his fate he doesn't feel right he's gonna wear the jerseys he can't yeah he doesn't feel right displaying it it's like who cares who's gonna come in your house i mean when i was in uh high school people gold necklaces had gotten like super popular and if you were wearing a gold necklace and just sitting in class somebody would walk up behind you and pull it off of your back a little bit and say ah it's green and start cracking on you if it was green or they would check the labels on the inside of the shirt that doesn't happen after the age of like 15 so you can hang that in your house it doesn't matter yeah and it's still just a jerk it's still a jersey people

often put up jerseys that aren't autographed you know like it's totally or like is it just just wear them yeah wear them if they fit although maybe he didn't buy the right sizes yeah that could be a problem wear the helmet around listen to this guy i mean it does seem like he might bump his head by accident no disrespect in the reddit a guy has a mega thread of uh your hall of shame and and he wants you to know wants to know when you've gotten ripped off and and autograph collector 96 really made me laugh because great name yeah it's star trek is his uh uh spock is his uh avatar oh he what he should you know he'd be impressed with the fucking first ever drawing of the enterprise autograph collector 96 said yes everything i bought on ebay have turned out to be fakes

i learned the hard way that a great feedback doesn't mean the seller is genuine yeah because they can they can just easily uh create accounts and yeah and maybe don't maybe don't try um again after you've been ripped off of you. He's like, I pictured the guy being like, oh, I bought an autograph off of eBay. I'm going to go and get it checked out. It's fake. And then the next time he goes back on eBay and he just buys another one,

he can't stop buying. But you know, I mean, you know the saying, fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on you. Well, I found a uh mean guy here that i thought we could we could look into and uh he he's he posted on a blog and uh his question is what part of please don't bend does the postal service not understand i look this sounds like is this jim norton yeah because that's like he was notorious for like the the

interns or whatever would have to have like i remember the shaquille o'neal one where they were all worried because shack like leaned on it and like bent it when he was signing it you know like a photo or a car like a big photo i think it was like a big photo and so so like the interns or like producers whatever were all worried that jim was going to get mad at them about it because i mean i'll be honest the way they describe jim norton sometimes he seems like he is a true nightmare of a human being to deal with the two-step process of his thing right is that he would chase them down for pictures get the picture printed and then chase them down for an autograph so it would always be like a two-part kind of uh process still going just to be clear he

is still doing this now to this day it's weird too because he would get again autographs from people he didn't even know who they were yeah because he's an autograph guy he's an actual autograph guy he literally is that i mean but you should keep it a secret yeah i think he's an autograph guy he's an actual autograph guy he literally is that i mean but you should keep it a secret yeah i think he's not very good at keeping anything about his life a secret just drink pee and admit that quite often i mean an ongoing issue with on with like sports cards is that um you'll like open the pack and the cards are in like horrible condition yeah because like the whole thing is you want to if it's a good card you want to send it in to get graded you want to get the highest possible grade right and like you'll get cards that have like a bent corner like fresh out of

the pack and it it is really infuriating because they are pretty expensive and you're like okay that's come on i at least want to get a chance to damage it myself exactly exactly yeah and this guy is a dick because he's like i've been collecting autograph photos through the mail for more than eight years now and there's one major pet peeve that i have with the hobby which continues to rear its ugly head time and time again all thanks to the fine folks at the united states postal service of course i am referring to the fact that although my self-addressed stamped envelopes bear a large red photos please do not bend stamp my mail carrier somehow manages to fold mutilate crush tear crease and get this bend my autographed photos which i thought the last one

was going to be so much worse because you said like mut late and it's like get this bend also that was like whenever someone says fine folks they never actually mean it yeah i've noticed that's what i've noticed too it's sarcastic or whatever a lot of bend is honestly the worst thing you can do though mutilate i think probably mutilate or tear or tear like i think all the other ones are worse well i think if they mutilate crush terror crease it or mutilate crush or tear it i mean the the thing says please do not bend doesn't say anything about mutilating oh i see that's why they were saying it i missed that in the beginning where it said please do not bend that makes sense then i'm wrong i apologize autograph person i uh i was wrong to

judge you and it's not like i have a miniature mailbox where the mail carrier has to fold the envelope for it to fit in the box in the recent past i resorted to placing a piece of rigid cardboard in my self-addressed stamped envelope to prevent this issue and this has seemed to help the problem comes when a celebrity mails an autographed photo back to me without the cardboard or in their own envelope maybe i should use a little reverse psychology and stop stamping my envelopes with photos please do not bend stamp maybe it calls attention to the fact that i have an autographed photo in the envelope that i would like to have in one piece and not bent so wait but even drawing attention to it so you just why would they then want to do the opposite of what if you put it in like one of

those bubble mailer envelopes because those are harder to fold i feel like then you're less like because i think he's putting them in just like a classic like envelope and those i can like those are you want to bend them almost actually the bubble one is going to be harder to bend actually i can help you with that you you you use a number 10 envelope okay stuffed with a number eight envelope okay with cards in it if everybody wants to become an autograph guide that's what you do a number 10 and a number eight you mail it in why do you know that by the way because i've been reading about it for four days. I see. Okay, so that's learned knowledge.

I know. The knowledge I get from this show, I posted this on Twitter the other day, but I started making fun of my wife's bourbon choices. Yeah, I saw this. Because we did a bourbon guy's show, and I was like, Bullet, that's mass-produced swill. Same thing with hot sauce now, i'm constantly this is math this is nothing yes basically every time you do an episode about a guy you become that guy for about two weeks so like 100 episodes in you're gonna be like 100 different types of guys it's actually i'm not a sex guy still i don't think that you have you've wanted to go to hedonism for like yeah i don't know i think you've kind of talked about hedonism a lot you do sort of seem like you could be a sex

guy no i like the idea of of brian is just like zealig though you know just like constantly changing anyone you guys know that reference i'm i'm getting i get from the context i think just it's it's it's a old Woody Allen film, so shut out. Oh, okay. Woody Allen guys would be a good one. The guys who defend Woody Allen on Twitter. Oh, no, that would not be a good one. That'd be fun.

No, it would not be fun. The guys who defend Woody Allen, I don't want to be delving into that. They're really psychotic. Yeah. This last part of this letter, perhaps it's an irresistible urge to do what I'm requesting they not do, sort of like a child testing authority, touching a painted wall that says wet paint

or running on the grass where please keep off the lawn sign is posted. Thanks, U.S. Postal Service. You make this hobby a challenge sometimes, but I will not be defeated. Oh, by the way, can you tell me how many stamps i should include in my self-addressed stamped envelope uh oh and my s a s m e self address stamped metal envelope okay so joke at the end oh is that is that a metal is that a joke

it was because he's going to start mailing things in metal envelopes but was he joking about that or is that a thing that exists i don't think metal envelopes exist but they should for these guys and and but it would cost more money the thing that irritated me about this guy the most is like the post office guy delivers so many letters every day. He doesn't have time to treat your letter with tender love and care. Yeah. No, they have to get as many letters mailed as possible. It's a lot.

It is a lot of mail. They're doing hard work. They're doing their best for the most part, I think. Every now and then, they might do something bad. We've all been there you know like you're working and you're having a bad day and you don't do that the best job at work like give them a break yeah well and it's not a bench it's just so much like the volume means that your letter is like nothing so i read a few stories uh of guys who who were telling some some war stories of autograph collecting and i thought ryan here said i drove four hours to try and get john cleese's autograph in person outside of venue last year that is that is fucking brutal he only became a cleese fan

recently once he said talking about cancel culture. Yeah, he's like, I had not heard of this gentleman before. Apparently he used to be in a comedy troupe. You know? Yeah, that's a sad one. But I guess, I mean, Monty Python is a legendary comedy group.

There were only two of us waiting and we got completely snubbed. No thanks to rude security. The worst part was waiting for over an hour in the freezing winter cold. No wait. the worst part was waiting it for over an hour in the freezing winter cold no way the worst part was waiting over an hour in a freezing winter cold and getting snubbed nonetheless we got signed copies of his book before his show i really wanted a cool experience with john cleese and a personalized photograph of beggars can't be choosers well i can i still love john cleese but we'll always have that bad mary memory of what happened your bill murray story made me feel a

little better so somebody got snubbed by uh yeah i mean i can see bill murray doing it for sure like i think bill murray notoriously does that yeah yeah well i mean you know he's an old man and he's always showing up places. He's crazy like that. You know, um, here's, here's one, here's a good war story. Uh, Michael T said, I'm older now and I haven't collected autographs in a real long time, but I've been teaching my nephew the ropes lately as he's just become an autograph. Oh, he's just become of autograph hound age so i don't know what age autograph hound like where you become the age because it feels like eight years old 16 i would maybe you can drive okay i don't know i would say like once you're like an adult

i think you know what i mean i would say even like 20 and above i would say maybe when i when i picture autograph hound i'm picturing like older guys you know oh i definitely am i definitely am but i just wonder when when you yeah when you actually can become one in there you gotta start teaching you know what i mean when when when it's time for you to start getting your lesson uh how old his his nephew was yeah uh and here he tells us memory of my one regret collecting resurfaced recently. It was when I put my empathetic nature over my cause. Michael Jordan was driving with Bulls teammate Cliff Levingston out of the Bulls practice facility and nobody was bothering Levingston for his autograph while MJ was mobbed. I talked to Cliff Levingston the whole time because he looked like it was an awkward moment for him. And I never got Jordan to ink his name that day. I ended up having many other opportunities a few years later.

But during that interim, I did not know why I was a bit not a bit more assertive. There feels like there's something of a lesson to be learned in there. And it's so funny. This is a whole thread of the bit. Sorry, Chris. be learned in there yeah it's so funny this is a whole thread of the the bit sorry chris um but when homer talks about like missing out on meeting mr t at the mall and it's like completely it's so funny and it's played up for laughs obviously but like this is a whole thread of guys having their mr t moment that is incredible yeah he i mean yeah that's uh that was i mean that's rough i guess that's that's tough it's not

he acted like a fucking human you know what i mean like he's his big regret was being a nice guy to someone yeah that's kind of tough though when you look back at your life and you're just like fuck there was that moment when i was like fucking show humanity towards a fucking person that was like needing it like what the fuck yeah i'm always looking back at times where i was like did the right thing and i'm like fuck that man yeah thanks for the joe sandoval says uh being polite to the player slash celebrity should always be number one i was at one game where ichiro was signing ichio was signing and the guy ichiro was signing and the guy in front of us started cursing him out just because he wouldn't sign the quote sweet spot of his ball

okay i mean that's okay that's outrageous that's also like ichiro's like known to be like so nice apparently one of the nicest guys coolest guys around there's a language barrier yeah he didn't speak english when he came over to the league at all so i mean maybe that played into it he like asked him to sign it somewhere and he didn't know what he was referring to also who cares like he's nice enough to sign it for you and you're gonna complain about where it's side you're cursing at him cursing at him what the fuck is wrong with you you're supposed to sign the sweet spot which i didn't look up the sweet spot so uh i would imagine i know where it is i would imagine okay yeah where's it at well it's hard to describe you know especially to a root like guy like you

it's like the g spot it's like it's like yeah but guys like me can find it very easy but you might struggle if you know what i'm saying i think you know where the sweet spot it's like it's like yeah but guys like me can find it very easy but you might struggle if you know what i'm saying i think you know where the sweet spot on the ball is i think i know where a clitoris is and also the inside thing the inside thing yeah okay no never mind this guy fox yeah he knows what he's talking about he knows there's an inside thing too yeah there's an outside and an inside it's something man i'm not a sex guy i just know things about uh anatomy sure yeah my wife's anatomy yeah that's fine um mab celebrity services is a collectible store in fairfield fairfield new jersey and less leslie sherry now this might

not be a guy this might be a lady but you know i thought i posted here uh sent in items almost a year ago to be signed by chuck norris i've i've sent numerous messages with there's something so funny about it being chuck norris to me yeah oh man numerous messages with no sorry i just realized something though like maybe Chuck Norris can't sign an autograph. Maybe an autograph signs Chuck Norris. You know what I'm saying? I know what you're saying, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

At first, before I realized you were doing a Chuck Norris joke, I thought you were going to say he's, like, far too old and weak now. Well, that's also the reality, I think, possibly. He's quite old, I believe. He's elderly. He knows how to kick we know that uh but this person they sent numerous messages with no replies every phone number listed for the business is bad i would never ever do business with them again can't believe any

celebrity or athlete would want to be associate with them either bad business now i like the little part of that says i would never ever do business with them again that they can't find the phone number anyway they actually can't do business with not giving you an option to do business with them anymore they maybe don't even do business i actually at this moment i'm gonna have to uh bid you guys to do because i have to go uh interview a minnesota state senator who said that he's never seen anyone in the state uh hungry as he was fighting against uh children getting free lunches in schools so okay and you agree with him on that that's why you're having a show well interestingly

enough no uh i'm actually going to bring him on and act like i agree with him and then i'm gonna go not okay you think i'm joking but this segment is literally called them and then I'm going to go not okay you think I'm joking but this segment is literally called not and I'm just going to like say a bunch of really nice things to him and then when he says oh thank you I'm going to say not and then I'm going to start telling him what a piece of shit he is oh that's a good segment that's a great very good

bye Chris sorry have fun and sorry to the guys audience for always having to you know show up late and leave early we'll be it doesn't matter, man. We got this. We'll do something else. Me and Stefan almost done anyway. Okay, I got to leave the studio.

That's okay? Yeah, go. Leave. Bye. We'll upload the recording for you? I guess we'll do that. It's fine. Bye, Chris.

Bye, Chris. Yeah, so I have found that Chris is still in the room, and now I feel awkward about it. Just looking at him. Oh, no, he's not in here. He froze. Oh, he's moving his eyes around, if you look. No, I am still here.

I am still here. It's because it says uploads in progress. We recommend you stay in the studio until all recordings have successfully uploaded. Well, here, I don't have much more content left. We can get out of here and uh no no i think i think i can let me also check on one thing though let me see if i can stuff man you take all the time you need i'm gonna go ahead i think once brian ends the recording it'll just it'll upload all the stuff i believe yeah but he has to close it so yeah but we can

finish we can end it right now how's that sound everybody sure yeah we all have a bunch of shit to do anyway i gotta go record another podcast after this and do two more streams so i feel terrible now because everyone's like i want to listen to more episode and now because chris is leaving the episode no no no no hey i want it you gotta have me back on again i want to come back on absolutely and let me help you this guy's trying this guy's now inviting himself back this is how he got on in the first place was fucking cornered beyond the glove kings and now he's doing it again to us on the show it's so smart i did it to chris two weeks like two weeks ago by the time people listened to this i said will you should have chris on

your new show it was very uncomfortable hey will ch loves movies. You should have him on. I was like, no, you absolutely don't have to, sir. I'm sorry for that. But yeah, yeah. We can get out of here. Stefan, it's been fun having you on here. Thank you. This is great. All I really had left was a brief history of autograph collecting, which the first sentence of it was what got me. This begs the question, how did autograph collecting become popular first the first sentence of it was what got me this begs the

question how did autograph collecting become popular in the first place and he answers often called the world's oldest hobby i gotta disagree man i don't think that's true yeah i mean there's i feel like there's lots of other hobbies actually there are a few more things we have to do here. Let's do these last few things. There is some funny shit that I got from Quora. And I already told you the first one. But this is the question is, what is the point in getting a celebrity's autograph? The answer comes from Dylan Kelk, musician and aspiring composer kelk kelk k-e-l-k

great name and he says unless it's for free or they're using it to generate money for humanitarian cause nothing you're actively contributing to the madness of celebrity worship by buying an autograph from a celebrity and people being willing to spend an inordinate amount of money on celebrities is exactly what allows celebrities to remain in the top one percent i read that and i was like that guy seems fun yeah i feel like anyone posting on quora is like you just do not want to meet them or talk to them or anything like that at all whether they're answering questions or posting questions i see i think if the people that post questions a lot of time come off super innocent to me well i guess that's true and it's the guy it's the guys answering it who usually seem like dicks right yeah this guy uh uh and it's like a guy that would answer and his name's ben martin and his little sub name is met bill murray and uh

he says what's the point of owning an autograph if you weren't there when it was signed isn't an autograph about the memory of meeting a famous person and ben replies some people only want autograph memorabilia for its worth so they can sell it and make a boatload of money in the future from it or they keep it to show off so a guy that answers like that a guy that the guy that's like scroll because i don't understand with quora to me the the the idea that people get on a website and they're like looking for people that ask questions that they can answer is a really weird yeah because i wonder i don't know how it's set up, but is it set up in a way where you

when you sign up on Quora, you can be like, here are the topics I know about, and then you get a notification when someone asks a question or something? Or are you just scrolling through and answering whatever questions pop up? It never really asked me anything when I got it. I haven't, like, I've only been

using it since I started doing Guys because it's got a lot of good shit on it. But when I started looking at it, like, I've only been using it since I started doing guys because it's got a lot of good shit on it. But like when I started looking at it, like when I signed up and put my name and there's a premium service, which I haven't got, I'm not, I'm going to end up paying for Quora premium, but that's not, not yet. I haven't had to. Um, but I never put any of my interests in and I only got it so that I could scroll around on it and, and find freaks doing weird things. Yes, of course. Yeah. So Travis or Trevor, this is our last one here.

Okay. It'll be sad. Trevor Zylstra, uh, was asked, what would you say at a meet and greet with your favorite band? And like these kinds of questions are, it's, it's like that human, like that, that like human nature thing where it's like, uh,

just fucking talk to them. But I will say that when I got like Limp Bizkit's autograph and shit, I was fucking freaking out. Like it was, it was, I can only describe it as the same feeling the first time i did stand up comedy yeah it was like that's how it felt to be in the presence of like you were just in like a huge state basically like yeah you feel like you're gonna fucking lose your money start sweating and

you get dizzy and it's just you're just around this person but like i guess now it's like if i could have told myself back then like they're just fucking dudes just talk to them like a person yeah and he goes here's the secret to talking with any band if they're famous treat them like they're just regular folks if they're not yet famous treat them like they are now i like that that's smart that makes a lot of sense actually i i do i like that a lot yeah i do too it's a face it the famous bands have lots of people stuttering and bowing treating them like gods that's boring for them now i mean probably not but yeah to me it never gets boring for people to tell me they like my stuff there's one thing i get bored really easily yeah i'm getting praise

from people i hate that yeah oh god. Oh God. Yeah. I got a bunch of compliments and it made me uncomfortable. It feels so good. People are like, I know that people are like, there are those people that are like, I don't know how to accept compliments. And it's like, uh, I don't really, it's pretty easy actually. I don't know what to stand there. Yeah. I don't know what to say, but for don't know what to say but for the first like six weeks of this i was retweeting all the uh nice compliments and i was like you know what this is a nerdy thing this is such a dork thing to do and i shouldn't be doing it but i'm just gonna do it anyway and feel good about it you know because i was trying to get the word out

that it was a good show not just but he goes he goes, but treat them like real people, and you show them that you deserve to be treated like a real person by them, too. On the other hand, bands that are not yet famous desperately want to be famous. You can't make that statement. I don't know if that's necessarily true, but okay. I mean, as a guy who works in a field where you would think like, oh, I'd really like to, I mean, I can't lie. I would love to be Tom Cruise. I think it would be really fucking cool.

Oh yeah. I mean, he's like a big psycho obviously, but he's like extremely wealthy and famous. Rich and everybody wants to make you happy all the time. Like everybody that's around you just wants you to feel happy. Yeah. Like that's crazy right yeah yeah and he says so if you treat them as special they will be eternally grateful so the idea that everybody wants to be famous is it's so funny because that's the way i felt when i was like

17 years old like everybody in the world just wants to be famous and then i found out as i got older no everybody in the world just wants to make money yeah and that's right the richest people that are visible to us are the famous people so yeah we're like yeah because i i'll tell you what i would love to have a ton of money and then not have anybody know who i am and i've said that's the dream that's why like professional athletes like nhl players they love to play in like well they don't love to but like playing in like arizona or florida or something you're paying less taxes and also no one walking down the street knows who you are yeah and i've said before like the the best that's probably the blue jackets too yeah probably

really great no i i couldn't tell you one guy's name the last guy's name i remember is tug nut and that was a great name yeah you guys also had grant clitsom too who was okay it's a classic name yeah that is a fucking great name but i always feel like i've said this before if i if i'm like got a billion dollars you might just not ever hear me again no that's why it's so crazy i mean not everyone people are tired of hearing about elon musk but like you're the richest man in the world or whatever and you still need to post i mean that is that's fucking psychotic it's because he wants people to think he's funny and to love him and it's never going to happen which is very funny i always think about i i you know what

i always think about is like rich kids like people that were born into like like elon musk's son or like uh jeff bezos kid or whatever yeah that are like i would not have any drive to do anything like the ones that are trying to be like business owners or the ones that are trying to be famous like why why would you do that you why do you want attention at that point like what, what are you doing? Just go. Yeah. Just go like live in your insane penthouse downtown and like watch movies and play video games and go on vacations and stuff. Right. Yeah. Just be rich.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, Stefan, it's been fun talking to you. It always is. And of course, I'm going to bring you back on the show. Actually, I have I just just like two or three weeks ago. I don't know when the episode aired again. I brought Mike Hale on to show that this show isn't just going to be a different guest every week because that's

tiring yeah so it's gonna be a lot of my friends and stuff like yeah no i mean anytime you want me back on let me know because this is great i wanted you on a show about collectors yeah that's perfect i kind of have in my mind like i had david j roth on the softball guys episode because the sport guy i will manicure on discovery channel guys because he's a t he's into tv and like uh josiah came on the dave navarro episode because that's kind of stuff he's into so like i have in my mind the different people i want for the different things it's just about scrolling through the uh big list of guys i mean you should look at if you want to so i think you know uh our friends tom and demi tom walker yeah i want to have them on it'd be great but a good one for them maybe because tom loves this subreddit is the twitch subreddit which is all

people with like zero viewers trying to get more viewers and it's so bleak but also really funny when i saw the way to become an affiliate was that you had to have three viewers and it's so bleak but also really funny so when i saw the way to become an affiliate was that you had to have three followers and i went yeah i was looking into everything i have to have three viewers at the same time and i was watching people be like how do you get three viewers yeah it's like yeah i mean it's for us we have the following already before we start which is like that's kind of a prerequisite unfortunately yeah i mean that's for us we have the following already before we start which is like that's kind of a prerequisite unfortunately yeah i mean that's what guys ended up working out too it was like if i had launched guys without ever doing anything else i i think it would be like a lot

a harder hill to climb but it was like i'll climb yeah no but this is i this seriously is like i don't listen to that many podcasts anymore because i don't uh like leave my house but this is a must listen for me. I ruined, I ruined an episode for you. Cause I, I'm like that with a lot of podcasts. Like I, I like block party. I like YKS and I'm like, when I'm on it, I can't listen to it. Yeah.

Yeah. I won't be listening to this one. Well, Stefan, thanks for coming on. He's boring as heck on Twitter to go off Kings and uh blocked party and what's the sports game because these are sports people oh yeah it's uh i hate this team with aaron warner uh who was a tovo who you had on as well he was on the dave navarro episode he was really funny i'm gonna have those guys back on to do like hardcore guys or something oh man yeah bye bye oh murder x brian on patreon please sign up it's just because like you get it's worth it

everyone it's worth it i'm doing incredibly psycho shows currently i'm by the time this is on it's a whole series about jeff dunham so we'll be getting dunham pill and i named it done him because like because it's a list there's basically a list of freaks that at some that everybody wants me to cover so yeah jeff donald on him yeah that makes sense he's so fucking weird man he's not he's crazy all right bye bye bye