Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 15 - Real Ale Guys with Libby Watson and Chris James

Episode Date: May 23, 2023

This week we had Libby Watson (twitch.tv/libtron) to teach us about some British Guys that seem to like gross beer. It has something to do with temperature or something. Libby tried the beer and you'll have to listen to hear what she thinks.  Chris is at https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow/ and twitter.com/thecjs The Greaseman makes an appearance too For More Guys Content subscribe to patreon.com/murderxbryan for more guys content. Guys+ is a bi-weekly look into Guys news. We cover guys we have already covered so that we can keep up with all of the Guys.

welcome to guys a podcast about guys i am brian and with me this week is chris james yeah well i mean i i'm i feel like i am here most of the time i mean it's i know i do appreciate though that you sort of intro me as if like hey guess who we got this week and then everyone's like oh who's it gonna be and oh yeah it's chris yeah chris again no that's not the reaction it's not oh it's oh chris again oh that's nice i appreciate that what what what did you do did you flub out the gate no somebody heard a woman's voice on guys holy shit i just uh drove their car straight off the freeway at that that's right i mean this is i don't know how they're gonna come out but is this i mean this

is two we have we went guys guys guys guys guys and now a couple of not we have women on the on the is it two in a row is it no it would be juniper two weeks ago uh um will senate last week yeah and then this week libby wow that's esteemed company yeah yeah well the chive guys episode we were talking about this before we recorded uh could not have a yeah well the chive guys episode we were talking about this before we recorded uh could not have a woman do the chive guys episode because it would be like these are guys that spell boobs b-e-w-b-i like they say boobies they're in their 40s a lot of them and they say i like my wife's boobies oh god nice honkers and stuff yeah i like to play with them like say stuff like that and and honestly brian says they're 40 i think they're older i think that

they're 75 to 80 year old men who do not know how to use the internet at all and i think a lot of them are sex guys but this is not about chive guys let's not talk more about them i don't want them in my life anymore let's talk about the guys this week please oh well i want to start this episode by saying something that i'm being very nice by doing now chris disagrees with this thing but we are doing real ale guys like british beer guys basically and um i was googling ale and pub. I was trying to find those American guys that are like, they call the bar the pub. Where they're like, I'm going to go down the pub in their southern accent or whatever.

That's horrible to think about. There's so many of them. I Googled American British pub and I clicked on the first article. And wouldn't you know it, it was written by Jesse Farrar. Oh, man. That past guest, Jesse Farrar, who did used to write about beer. So it's not entirely wild to think. But imagine that.

So it's not it's not entirely wild to think. But that is that. Imagine that. And I want to say that I brought it up to Jesse last night live on his stream. And nice. And I explained to him that you are being nice and that you weren't going to read it. And I was insisting that we did read it. And I will say, you know, you can kind of tell sometimes when Jesse's like, I think Jesse really, he really did not want, he really did not want us to read. I think he didn't remember what he said.

And there's that sort of feeling it was written so long ago. So I think, yeah, we won't read it. And I want to just say that I also decided we shouldn't read it. It wasn't just Brian. And I didn't push him really hard before the podcast started to do it. And then he refused. And now I'm trying to make it seem like I'm a good guy as well. Look, I mean, I relate.

I mean, if you've been writing on the Internet, including for, you know, blogs that no longer exist, for example, it would I talk to my former colleagues a lot about this. It would be great to just be able to hit the button and delete everything you know like you know like when some fucking guy buys a website and everyone's like oh no all the old stuff's gonna go away i'm like great please please just get rid of everything and jesse's a great right i i would imagine it's good and you have it chris well i didn't read it because i thought we were gonna i know but i thought we were gonna do it a lot well no never mind i mean i didn't think okay i i thought we were gonna do it live on the podcast and so i wanted to save it and read it live but you know no i mean luckily i've never written for anybody so none of that's out there but there are some podcasts in this

world i mean like i'm embarrassed by like 99 of everything i've ever done i mean i'm embarrassed about you know old guys episodes at this point yeah i can't believe we did sex guys oh that one was good that's the one everybody likes chris you can't on the sex guys which i believe by the time you can you can on the sex guys which i believe by you can shit on you can shit on the sex guys that's what make that's what makes them sex guys you can't shit on the normal guys well uh livy sent me uh dm and said you know there's these real ale guys now they remind me a touch i'm gonna read this the start of the wikipedia for real ale which my favorite thing about it my favorite thing about it

currently is that they call it real ale yeah like that it's already like confrontational yes it's uh it's very interesting sort of branding as a branding technique you know to say like uh this is the only type that is real you know the other stuff is bullshit so every so presumably that means all the other stuff that i was that a real plebe like me would drink would be fake ale yes well real ale is the name coined by the campaign for real ale camera very hard to search for beer that is brewed from traditional ingredients matured by secondary fermentation in the container from which it is dispensed and served without the use of extraneous carbon dioxide and uh wait does that mean that it doesn't like it doesn't have do you know what i mean like that that that what carbon like does it have the like bubbles

yeah does it is it bubbled up or not really wait let me try it wait a second yeah we can talk about that in a bit like flat beer is kind of like a thing that is considered to be bad normally but in this case it's good you are touching on the the absolute crux of the issue here which is the the number one thing that real ale guys do not want you to say is that the ale is warm and flat if you say that the ale is warm and flat they get so mad wait a second no why would now i call me crazy why would it be warm why wouldn't they well why wouldn't they get into that chris um chill the beer you can't do that it fucks it up you can't put it in what i've learned is that you can put it in some sort of a cellar it's in a basement which would be cooler than the

room upstairs but i think even in the end you have to bring it to the room upstairs yeah that's like kind of a problematic thing can you not put in the fridge no they wouldn't do that what are you talking about yeah they'd be so fucking mad if you did that i can't believe what i'm hearing right now i had absolutely no idea that they fucking it's like it's similar to piss yes it's very it you know it's it's a little i would say it's a little cooler than piss temperature uh the correct serving temperature is 50 to 55 degrees so i think if your piss is coming out 50 degrees you're probably dead um true okay but uh yeah oh no everybody go check it let's take a piss break. Go check out this. Um, um, well I looked into, to, uh, uh, this and I found a, a bar that serves mostly real ales.

And I saw this, sorry, what's a bar? I'm sorry. We don't say pub in America. We're not going to do that. Okay. There is a pub right across the street from me. And I'm like, this is Ohio. No way. I swear to you. We have a lot of them too. I will say, I mean, Vancouver, where I live in Canada, we're extremely multicultural and we have like a huge Irish community here and British community.

And so we have some classic proper pubs, but i don't really notice the difference when i go into a bar or a pub personally i don't know the difference yeah i mean to me it's very vibes based um and also just you know having grown up in the uk uh there is a type of environment that i would walk into that i would recognize as feeling like a pub and that would be low ceilings cramped uh smelling of kind of uh yeast i guess and and you know actually smelling a little bit of ale um or kind of farms or men or you know something uh not smelling clean certainly um and uh yeah like low lighting small wooden tables you know and again they're not all like that there are lots of pubs in the uk that are more modern um but uh that is the kind of environment that if i walk into it in the us i'm like oh that this is trying to be a pub yeah it's kind of sad to try to be something i guess

it could be british i don't know like i will say to give the benefit of the doubt they could be a british expat or whatever who's wants to have a little taste of home you know right this is the thing that I struggle with because uh in LA there are quite a lot of British people especially in Santa Monica there's a ton there's like a few British pubs there um and I find it hard to relate to because like I came here to get away from Britain and uh actively do not enjoy especially when it comes to you know food and drink culture that is not something I'm really ever seeking to recreate here. Fish and chips would be the one thing that I really want to be able to get a good version of.

I love fish and chips. I love fish and chips. I got to read this. I got to find it real quick because I did look at some reviews of pubs. Oh, here it is. Justin Burgess reviewed a pub in york that is widely considered the best british pub in the united states wow what's it called can we give it a little churchill tavern oh yeah oh yeah winston winston winston churchill uh from is from the uk it might be a reference to

that i would say i didn't i mean i was there like god that was i went there for my 24th birthday so that was 2014 and uh so maybe it's changed since then but i didn't think it was all that british like i got a lemon drop there you know from what i understand they play winston churchill speeches in the bathroom yes they do yeah oh wow so it sounds like chris kind of knows his british stuff a little bit so that turns out that that was correct so so this is actually very cool to me though that libby went to this pub on her birthday like this so this this pub is legit i think yes yeah justin burgess says nine months ago service was great food was good if not great fish and chips was okay but not much flavor then in parentheses maybe this is just normal british cooking

shots fired but yeah i mean that is kind of i think a key to for at least me when i'm having fish and chips is to just douse it in malt vinegar and that's where the majority of the flavor is coming from in my opinion i think saying maybe this is just normal british cooking though is semi-insulting oh yeah oh i mean and and so yeah accurate but insulting i would say yeah yeah yeah yeah um at some point we need to talk about the cask mark did you encounter the cask mark at all i couldn't find it i saw the one you you posted you sent to me which is just a a this place has cask ale okay so the cask mark is an extremely serious organization uh based in the

uk and basically what they do is like um you know like uh secret shoppers they do that oh we know you know all about it loss prevention we just talked about them actually a couple of weeks ago. There we go. There we go. So they kind of certify pubs and bars and so on. It's just selling. No, I'm serious. They go and they taste it. It says that at least twice a year, they will go to a place that they have certified as selling real cask ale and make sure that it's served properly.

And the place I saw, I happened to find that there is one place that is cask mark certified in la so i i went there how was the cask ale who did they buy somebody here is that just is that just real ale is that cask ale is real sorry cask ale is another term for real ale because it's aged in casks um does somebody fly here to do that or is there like a cask mark in the united states like somebody from yeah i need to know if they're getting on a plane yeah flying over here and drinking two beers and being like business class flight from london to la to go and drink yeah exactly a couple of these beers well the funny thing is is that the the cask mark like plaque

had an expiration date on it it said this is valid through 31st of may so it's like they've kind of uh sort of assessed that it's good through may after may they're gonna have to come and check again obviously um to make sure that you're still doing it right precisely that you're serving it right so they would like sort of come in and be like oh well this is this is cold and delicious you're serving it right um so they would like sort of come in and be like oh well this is this is cold and delicious you're you're you don't get to have your certification anymore right exactly i'm too refreshed after drinking this um and i said i should just be uh slightly depressed um they take it seriously enough that on their website they have a thing called the Bad Pint Reporting Tool, which is basically the beer police.

It's knocking on... If you go to a Caskmark accredited pub and you have a bad pint, then you can tell them about it. Okay. You can send something in. You can wrap them out. Yeah, exactly. You can be like, Dear Caskmark Association,

I went to the green king on tuesday and uh my pint was uh 57 degrees and it was too fizzy you know and and you and you would like i wonder if there's any people who are like there's like rivalries you know between like the cat and then and then so they're like they're actually like sort of blowing the whistle on them you know you know but but it's not actually totally like fake reviews that businesses leave for each other yeah no i would absolutely be doing that if i owned a pub down the street i would be doing that every single day you know just to flood the zone that's really smart i mean i saw this guy review here's there i want to bring in one of the problems with

cask ale uh first of all chris they're at war with the lager people well yeah i would i would imagine that but but and what is a cask i'm sorry i'm a i'm a very dumb guy what what is that it's just a keg basically a special type of keg yeah i did look up uh an article on beer connoisseur.com that explains that explains what real ale is uh And it's very simple. English casks are built with a keystone serving hole on one end and a larger opening in the center of the cask known as a shive. Oh, that's close to what we talked about a couple weeks ago.

Shives? A shive. Shive, guys. Keep calm and shive on. Right, exactly. See ya. So, yeah. The whole point is that something about being aged in this cask, and again, not having added extraneous carbonation. The only carbonation is what comes naturally from the yeast that's in the beer.

So you do see, and I did yesterday when I went and got this real ale, very, very small bubbles, but it does not taste... Carbonated busy yeah or like here really from what i can also tell it's like uh very hard to keep your your like i read this article for this this review from 2018 that at this place that only serves Cascades and maybe a few other ones. I go, don't buy into the hype. It's rank. Not only I work in the area, so tried it a few times, but also on occasion went with friends who are professional brewers

from Switzerland. On all occasions, the beers were just rank. My friends pointed out they're infected with wild yeast, hence the spoilage but the reaction was nah mate all good bottled budweiser parentheses and oh dear lord is it piss water tastes better than spoiled beer doesn't taste better anymore no it tastes so much worse tastes woke yeah so now this person probably have a different review but so i mean so this

this seems like a normal person trying real ale yeah and and this seems like what most normal people's reaction would be like oh this is nasty and i and i actually hate it but so so try to as someone again who knows nothing about this explain to me sort of the type of person that this would be generally is are these older people are these does it like mostly men oh yes yeah no it is it is guys um so before when i pitched this episode to brian i had not done any research um and uh i was very relieved that when i did research i was like oh this even more a type of guy than I realized. Because this was based on sort of very kind of like ambient old ideas that I had in my head from growing up. Because I grew up in the countryside in Britain. Where did you grow up in the countryside?

So like a very small village. It basically is, though, Brian. It is basically the Shire. I mean, I'm not joking. It is basically what Tolkien was thinking about when he invented the Shire. I grew up very close to the Cotswolds, which is, you know, like... Real Ale Central. I read about so much Cotswold stuff.

Well, and we can talk as well about the Real Ale Brewery that is in, like, the area that I grew up in. Hook Norton, fondly referred to as Hookie. Everyone talks about going to get a pint of hooky. A pint of hooky is how they would say it. Do they have tours at all of those? Oh, yeah. Oh, they do. And then my second,

my follow-up question would be, at the end of the tour, do they give you a shirt? I hope, I fucking hope so, man, because I don't know, British people might be even angrier about this shirt situation i feel like british people wouldn't care about a shirt no i mean i think if

they were mad they would just repress it forever um and we need to find a british person that did the bourbon trail so that we could see if they came over here and found out there wasn't a shirt and got furious the control group yeah absolutely yeah no i have actually toured this this brewery not that long ago a couple years ago um it wasn't so much a tour i was like they have like this little exhibit that's like oh and here's here's all the old shit um and here's like a old nasty spade or something you know it smells so bad you can smell it it's so nasty yeah we're gonna make your beer with it yeah yeah it's i mean it's an impressive place but um i mean so for example uh the first time that my husband came to england uh after we shortly before we got married um he came to

england and we went out to a pub in a village not far from where I grew up and my stepdad insisted oh you have to have a pint of hooky um and again my stepdad is not a real ale guy like at all but I think he just thought it's maybe thought it was funny like a local type thing too hey you got to do this this is yeah oh you're in yeah getting screeched in or whatever in uh Newfoundland they do it where you have to drink screech never mind we won't we won't please tell me what's the cargo malort screech is like a grain alcohol i want to say it's like a really really high proof like 95 or something like that and getting screeched in you have to like drink it and then walk five steps or something without falling over i i don't i don't know much about it but it's just like a local custom kind of hey you come here you gotta participate in this do this horrible thing and then how you react to the horrible

thing will uh decide forever whether you're good or not exactly yeah yeah so i mean he tried it and he it was funny because it was his first time meeting my stepdad and and he was just sort of like oh yeah this is horrible i i don't like this i did he honest. He didn't do the classic son-in-law where he was like, oh, yeah, this is great, sir. Where can I get more of this? Kudos. I did that to my father-in-law when me and

the wife first got together. He's always offering me beers. I never drank beer. I mean, I drank. I would get drunk off of shots or jello shots or whatever but i never wait wait wait it's interesting to go to second yeah yeah no i'd hang on a second you would often get drunk on jello shots pretty much maybe had one jello shot in my life i've done it like at a party you know what i mean where they're like celebrating it they're out or whatever but i just don't think

of it as a regular thing it just feels feels like so much preparation. What would, what would lead you to be constantly having jello shots? I would just make a few. And you made them yourself. Yeah. Do you have a good recipe? Did you get the technique then? Wait a second. Why did you get the,

I'm sorry, Brad. I know you want to, where did you get the idea to do jello shots when you wanted to get drunk? Well, I'll tell you where it started was uh when i went to when i first turned 21 i would go to like bowling alleys and like bars like that and i

guess i had been served a sex on the beach at one point and really liked it so i would order sex on the beach but at like bowling alleys and concert venues where they are trying to do that you know they're actually probably pissed at you for ordering it so they would just guess and it would always be gross it never tastes like the first time so instead i would like to taste like the first time never ever the same with real ale yeah well it seems very hard to make real ale taste like anything at any time you know it's like it seems like um one of the parts of doing real ale is like maybe it'll taste good i don't know i mean yeah well i will i will say that it is it does have a flavor it's not like but you know

like the complaint about budweiser or miller light or whatever is that it doesn't taste of anything it's like water this is on the opposite end. It tastes a lot. And the taste is bad. There's too much taste. It wasn't me, really. My wife would make 10, 12 jello shots. We'd just kind of keep them in the refrigerator.

Okay, so your wife is involved. I'm home from work. Like cracking a bud? Yeah, kind of like cracking a bud but i would do like four jello shots just standing in front of the fridge in your work clothes do people know this about you have you talked about this not on any podcast i mean my wife knows it about me and like people i hung out with at the time know it about me but this isn't this yeah they call him jello brian this thing you're a pretty fascinating guy but this is one of the more fascinating

things i've heard about you is that you would come home from work and enjoy a cold jello shot like three or four of them would get you like feeling where i wanted to be and then done drinking yeah sorry though you were talking about your how your stepdad would with the beers before yeah yeah no i was i was done it's it's a it's a cool brewery if you ever happen to be in north oxfordshire checking out the hook nor nails brewery is a fun way to spend a sort of rainy hour because you know it is pretty cool they have the old like they use some kind of gravity system to brew it or whatever but i was i was looking and uh let me just look this up very quickly and brian i also interrupted you as well yeah my father i

did a double interruption i interrupted libby first then brian moved in then i interrupted brian it's one of the best things i do so brian what were you saying i went to a party at his house at my in-law's house and i'd been really drunk there a few times on jello shots like they would bring some with us to the party and uh he was like you know wait i didn't get jello shots this time i don't know what it was but he was like come on out here with the guys like he knew this british guy too and they were like he was constantly that he my father-in-law was like this big redneck guy but he was always trying to impress this british guy um so he would have me come back out in the backyard and sit down with them and

he'd be like you're not you know you're not drinking a cocktail or like a uh here have a guinness and uh he handed me a guinness and i took one drink of it and then just sat and stared at it for the rest of the time didn't even say anything and he finally he's like are you gonna waste that and i was like yes just like in a k-hole staring at your guinness do you know what i drink yeah buddy i'm just dreaming of your fucking jello shot do you have like a fuzzy navel or something i would have liked that guinness is gross in my opinion yeah i'm not well i know how hard it is you know how hard it is if you want to be drunk but you don't like the flavor of anything and it's so thick too and just so like

there's so much this is a really good point is that uh one of the things that people say uh about real ale is that it's easier to drink because there aren't as many bubbles. And I would challenge that because yesterday, you know, so we go to this brewery in Van Nuys. It was in an area that is like mostly car repair shops. There was no visible parking, which is very strange for a place in LA and especially in the valley so we had to park like two blocks away and walk to this place uh we got a flight and I will say the bartender was really nice um she was great um we got it we got a flight uh so I got we each got two real ales and two normal beers um for as kind of palate cleansers uh praise normal beer yeah normal beers

just regular actual beers that are good the ones that are at the beer store yeah exactly that's right chris yeah beer store beers um you know and they these are all ones that they brew at this at this brewery so they have like i don't know five car scales and then a lot of other stuff and so uh you know we sat there and we you know we kind of made our little notes we tried them um the one that i got one that was called i think it's called the king's taxes or something which is meant to be their best i know i know buddy and now you're making it you're making a goof to make people laugh when you say that i'll have a king's taxes thing that is the most cool double-decker lorry or something.

King's Taxes is a great name. I know. I know. It was hard to keep a straight face. And, you know, I tried it and it was very, you know, it was flavorful. I will say that if you are looking for a big flavor, the flavor was there. It was kind of malty, but it was very bitter. And it was, again, like not cold, not cold at all.

I think Lewis said it best when he said that the real ales tasted like, you know, when you get, I mean, maybe you don't, but you know, when you get the really big can of beer at a baseball game, that's like 24 ounces. Because it's the only way they'll sell it to you, because that way they can justify charging like 18 bucks for it or whatever. 18 bucks, god I wish. I'm not even joking, like $27 it cost to the Vancouver. That's fucking crazy, yeah. It's like the last third of that when it's warm and flat, basically. It's like, you know,

you're just trying to get through the last six ounces or whatever of this fucking enormous Miller Lite that has long since lost all carbonation uh and it's warm from sitting in your hand in the stadium you know it's 90 degrees out whatever uh that was the kind of flavor on on these beers the other beers that I got I got a sour and a lager very easy to drink I have no problem drinking like I'm not i don't know if these people are sort of like babies talking about how hard it is to drink bubbly yeah like the bubbles hurt their tongues they're like i want to chug a bunch of beers but the bubbly's hurt my

tongue you know my daughter would my daughter would call coke uh spicy when she was little because yeah the bubbles i did find i did actually find something called the craft beer channel and uh they do a lot of videos about real ale and i listened to a lot of them and there was like food network or something like on tv this one was called beer school and it's what is real ale and the first comment on it was an american so it's very funny to read this to me as an American who was fortunate enough to spend a lot of time in England. I would have rather have a pint of real India, English cask conditioned ale than any other beer on the planet.

Now I'm going to say this. Now my guess is that he thinks that all British people only drink cask. Right. Yes. that he thinks that all British people only drink cask ale. Right. Yes. And although I prefer Yorkshire ales, a real ale from anywhere in the country is quite a treat. It is very difficult to explain to another American who hasn't been there exactly why I believe it to be better

than anything else. Because they taste it and they're like, yeah, it's hard to explain it to them because they're like just so disgusted by the taste well and i think it's important context to remember that the reason that camera started the the campaign for real ale is because other kinds of beer were getting more popular and you know you could argue that that's for i know all kinds of various like modern society uh economy reasons as well but it's also because they're better to drink like that is just a fact i'm sorry like proved on it

just like many things that we've done as a society is we had something originally and then we figured out ways to sort of improve on it and make it better and they're like no no let's have the other stuff before we made any of the improvements well guys that is a very guy thing that's what i was gonna say yeah exactly this is this is the heart of the guys thing is saying it's not just having a passion about something it's saying this is the way that you do it and if you don't do it this way you suck yeah and and guys like love old stuff you know here's the history it's a 50 second video from camera made the history of camera the campaign for real allen okay so camera is c-a-m-r-a yeah it makes it impossible to say

camera i think you're saying yeah yeah it makes it really fucking oh my god man cow had jackie the joke man on okay breaking news don news. Don't worry about that. Brian, please don't get distracted by your recommended video. I'm sorry. I looked over and saw it and I was like, holy fuck. 16 hours ago. You got a New York Times push alert about it. Yeah.

All right. Here's the history of the campaign for real ale, which Chris, I was going to say is hard to search because Google fixes it to camera. It says, did you mean camera? It's not a good name. It says how you know you got a lot of traction as well, though, is that Google just doesn't even believe people are searching for you. Here it is. Here it is. 40 years ago, the national corporate brewing giants were determined to squash traditional beer out of existence.

What? Are we making it like a conspiracy? Yeah, like framing it as like the little guy up against like corporate greed or whatever. And I suppose maybe there's like a tiny amount of, you know know the idea that they've figured out ways to mass produce it to make more money that could be the case but from the sounds of it they've also improved the product a lot well and also in just the freshness like people like fresh stuff and these guys are like no this is the most fresh way to drink beer yeah and it's not let it sit for a long time let it get really yeasty you know you know how you associate yeast with freshness and flavor these guys are i think you were maybe gonna mention it brian in the beginning i don't know if you did but these guys they do they are similar to the the whiskey guys oh yeah and so but it almost seemed like whiskey is sort of

understood to be better when it's aged yeah yeah whereas these kind of guys maybe are just like what if we took the whole stuff with whiskey and we just moved it over to beer and we just let the beer sit there for a long time it also to me feels like nobody wants it, so it goes bad before they can sell it all. And the fucking bar isn't going to be like, hey, it seems like this beer is bad after eight days. It's just going to keep serving it until it's all gone. And you can't tell because in the beginning, right when they initially got it, it was already so nasty. Yeah. Here's more of the history here.

With their new keg beer revolution. But in 1971, a small group of young pioneers took on the mighty brewing corporation. The photo of the guys was classic. Classic old British guys. And now they have a thing called, it says courage. Yeah. It takes a lot of courage to tell people the beer they like is gross. And the beer you like is very good.

Yeah. Ungambled everything to save our great British beer. Oh, look at how flat that was. Oh my God. I saw that being poured and it, the bubbles really do look like piss bubbles because, you know,

and there's not very many of them you know and it just you can tell how fucking flat and warm you you can literally tell sorry i said i said that british literally literally but you can actually tell just from looking at it that it is bad it is so flat it is it does not even register as beer to me it registers as apple juice yeah cider cider some sort of like cider that has alcohol in it it does have alcohol in it right oh oh it does so that's what i was going to ask what what is the the percentage that we're usually dealing with it's the same four percent which is like a light like a light beer yeah yeah it's not like you know those like ipas or whatever that people because i was gonna say that i mean maybe if it

was it got you really drunk fast like it was high percentage then i could see a little bit more but you're saying it doesn't even have that no no no it's almost not about getting drunk chris you drink it it's almost about like the flavor and all that stuff the drunk is like a little bonus you get but here's here's a little more here for great british beer i expected to be able to get a choice of real ale and i found that choice was disappearing they had everything and we had there was a newspaper that said Voice of the Drinking Man. This is really framed the same as they frame the hippie

anti-war movement. That's what this feels like. These guys are like... We saw things were fucked up and we had to come and fix it. We had to do something about it. We noticed that there was a big issue, and the big

issue was the bubblies, and we didn't like them on our tongue, and we went out and we did something about it. There's just a few 20 seconds left here. I had to go head-to-head with them. People hated them. I don't think anybody would have bothered to chop me down

if it hadn't been for the camera. Absolutely everybody. That guy was a conservative member of parliament, by the way. He was part of the conservative government in the 90s. That previous guy that we just saw. I think that was Ken Clark. I'm just going to check that.

Very cool. And what was he saying? I didn't know either. Something about beer. I think I'll go back. I was saying. Here he goes. I like how they're like and people hated him like they were Jesus. It hadn't been the camera.

Absolutely everybody. That guy, by the way. I think he was saying something about how he might have lobbied for something. He might have gotten something done in government. Sorry, his last job in

the government from 2012 to 2014 was minister without portfolio. He's just a guy. Just a government guy. Pure guy. He's just, hey, you know, I did some things about... Comes to the office can pretty much leave right away yeah yeah and he probably only talks about beer at the office too he's one

of those guys that like he's a guy a guy like like uh uh the only guys we found that probably don't constantly talk about their stuff is sex guys the rest of them only because yeah they can't because you know you're not allowed to in polite society go around talking about you know felching and whatnot yeah but you're they are they they even like are the first the only ones to be ashamed so far right like where they would take pictures of themselves at the entrance of sandals resort so that their family didn't know that they were going to heed them wow they're they're the only ones that probably don't talk your ear off that makes sense obviously there's a lot of shame um you know from sex for people and still even society the way we look at it and stuff it still is a lot of shame associated with it it's nasty yeah yeah yeah but when you think about

like like these guys have such like a niche thing and they probably never shut up about it the other the guys that i think remind me of them a lot is the chive guys that got the coin right like a chive guy that buys a lifetime membership to the chive oh jesus is never not talking about stuff he saw showing the coin to people and stuff yeah by the way libya i don't want to again people are like stop fucking talking about the chive you already only the chive the chive has is is big into coins they they make a lot of coins and i don't really understand but yeah they said very american bill mur me and like chris farley coins sometimes is like beverly hills ninja and stuff like that what are you supposed to do with the coin show it to people just show your friends have it up um you know on in a plaque on your wall or whatever yeah well it's not legal

tender then no but the coin you do get for being a lifetime member of the chive can get you whiskey at a bar and oh crossover so you can imbibe if you want you can imbibe whiskey at the yeah you mustn't drink you must only imbibe yeah that's these guys do you think these guys are imbibers these are guys and i was going to talk about that in a little bit these guys are imbibers. These are guys. And I was going to talk about that in a little bit. These guys are big imbibers. So they do use that language as well? Yeah. Yeah. So, well, okay. So there is a comic strip that used to appear in a British adult comic called The Viz.

And it was called Real Ale Twats. And it was basically, you know, this group of guys who are real ale twats and they go to they go to pubs and just talk about how how terrible the normies who drink regular beer are and use words like imbibe and so on. I'm going to find some examples for you to read. So it's making fun of these those types of people. So in England, that's the general consensus about like they're not a respected group yeah pretty much yeah i mean you know they are understood to be kind of uh what's the word sort of a uh a group of nerds i guess annoying they seem very annoying to me because i can't find them being mean anywhere, really. But I can spend all day finding them being annoying as hell in the comments of these.

Like this video. There is this video where the guy comments. Scott Fitches goes, after years in the industry, I had become so jaded that I barely enjoyed beer anymore. Oh, no. Now that I found work elsewhere, I that I barely enjoyed beer anymore. Oh, no. Now that I found work elsewhere, I can actually enjoy beer properly again. And these videos are wonderful. If you ever come to Toronto, I'll show you around. Oh, hang on a second, Brian.

Somebody I know is making a trip to Toronto fairly soon. Do you want to meet me? I don't think I want to meet Scott. soon do you want to make me i don't think i want to meet scott uh but uh um this guy super vascular says this is a great series talking about the uh series on real ale and he goes regretting saying i will only drink on friday or weekends now this looked amazing just like the processes equipment and people involved in it all i I hope that guy comes to terms. It sounds like he's sort of struggling a little bit with his drinking because he's giving himself the ultimatum,

I should only be drinking on these days. Now he's already questioning it. As someone who knows addiction and has dealt with it, I hope that he does get it in check. This is very like the bourbon guys who were hiding the amount of bourbon that they were buying from their wives um sneaking it in hiding it in the toilet or whatever that's very funny that they did that though here is a little thing here on the video this video is it's called beer

school and it's showing bartenders like pouring beers this is a big thing is pouring a pint correctly you have to be able to pull as they say a pint correctly but what would it matter there's no fucking it doesn't have to worry about the head of it like well it does it is supposed to have a little some of them do have bigger heads than others um the ones that the ones that we got had just a little tiny layer of foam but it sort of didn't matter in terms of taste i didn't seem to make any noticeable difference to how fizzy it was. Okay. Whiskey River still, he's our American guy, and he is saying, I believe

it to be better than anything else, even after explaining the complete brewing and aging process and the more complex drama of blending young brown ales with stale or serving three threads or entire butt but perhaps it's just an individual taste that i have there really isn't anything quite like it anywhere in the world except maybe messer mcguire's pub at o'connell bridge on the quays in dublin who do a lovely replica certainly keep in mind this is american this is that is this is the real ale twat like that could be straight from a real ale twat comic uh that's exactly it i've yet to find anything that comes close at any of the thousands of micro breweries in america so

for now real ale and its camera supporters are found in one secluded place on a global map and what a wonderful place to be to find the best pint of mankind perfect lol and then a guy responds i've had a few today so forgive me but i just bloody love a good beer and a good pub people let's keep this beautiful thing alive so now we're at the this is our real ale guy right here yes acdc of the 21st century i don't know what that name means he goes he's he's watched this video he goes it's just a shame the guy pulling the beer didn't know how to pull it properly i work in a pub in yorkshire and so know how real beer should be pulled there should be a sparkler a plastic sprinkler kind of thing the beer is pushed through to give it a nice head

and smooth finish on the end of the swan neck parentheses the metal pipe the beer comes out of and the sparkler should touch the bottom of the glass with the glass held vertically and the beer should be pulled slowly as to not push too much air through it they don't want too many bubbles too much yeah you get some air in there and your bubblies might hurt your tongue which will ruin the taste and give it too much of a head meaning you have to top the beer off and therefore waste good beer so so sort of sort of coming i i love an expert do you know what i mean i love somebody who can come in and share their expertise like that in a really condescending way well fantastic the craft beer channel replies to this guy he goes uh-oh you said the sparkler word

so many debates about it that we left it out you can pour great pints with or without it it's down to what you prefer or the publican so acdc sounds like somebody couldn't afford a sparkler replies hey the craft beer channel a but i work at a pub in yorkshire so it's common practice i know plenty of head brewers mainly the ex head brewer for beakston as he's local in my village straight up name dropping like some fucking real ale guys that nobody knows you know yeah and they all say that beer's best with a sparkler but i went to coventry the other week and the girl behind the bar didn't even know what one was and when when she asked her boss, she was told they didn't even know. Honestly, fucking she should be fucking fired.

This is what happens when you let women work in pubs. Fire her. Fire her immediately. She doesn't know what whatever that word is. This lady's never heard of a sparkler. God damn. Which is sickening to me. I asked her about a sparkler.

She said, oh, what is your birthday? You know what I mean? Sparklers, you know, they... Andy Higginbottom says, fantastic start to the series, a great way to shed the stuffy reputation Cask Ale has gotten in recent decades. Camera has done great work at keeping Cask purity,

but has not helped itself with public image or media management resulting in a reputation of somehow outdated and exclusionary the series looks like it could be a helping hand in attracting or and educating more youthful drinkers that wouldn't ordinarily choose cask by highlighting the artisanal and historic aspects that aren't always at the forefront of that's a fucking real long sentence just to say we only old fucking people drink this it'd be nice to get some young people doing it and it's so funny like it reminds me of the bourbon guys that were commenting about the other guys sneaking the beer in and saying this really

makes the bourbon world look bad or like fred minnick saying there's not enough women in bourbon which i found which this is kind of the opposite of that because there was some woman at a pub and she wasn't even you know important right yeah she doesn't even know what she's serving there was i mean i i'm sorry i know i keep bringing up but it fucking pisses me off to think that she doesn't even know what a fucking sparkler i mean these guys with these like it's something i i was thinking about earlier uh with like there's a thing out where you can put a thing in twitter advertised me a thing that you can put in your ear so you don't have to hear people chewing when you're eating dinner and i

was just like you know maybe restaurants like just aren't for you if you're right like everything has to like the product probably doesn't fucking work anyway but it's just crazy that somebody would like sort of micro target people who can't stand hear people eating and like there is there is a type of there's a name for it misophonia misophonia yeah that's a thing but yeah i would think that yeah you would self-regulate a little bit maybe exactly how loud is the chewing i don't know i i don't understand it but to put in to buy a product right so and and i just think that about these guys too this seems like something they should just be making at home and brian's like and brian's like i bought it but i mean it probably

won't work i bet it's not gonna work i don't mind hearing people chew um i well yeah you know i was gonna suggest that, you know, we, we get in a little bit to the typology of guy here because you know, the very specific image I had in my head of real ale guys before I did any research was based on, again,

my sort of like, you know, like ambiguous 18 years or so of life in the uk before i moved to the us i had a very strong image of this type of guy and it was low ponytail curly curly ish dirty hair uh beard mandatory either full beard or at least double but never never clean shaven one of those funny mustaches too sounds like girly guy she's basically describing me to a t but i'll let her continue he hides it yeah he's got it in a man bun right now but i what i was on reddit today and uh i found a troll in the real ale group will hey 108 and uh he he wrote the ultimate ale experience and posted a picture of

fosters australia that's funny that is wait so so let me give you a few let me give you a couple of the comments here real quick ale master 981 said absolutely best real ale ever if you let it go flat fizzy fosters is not real fosters ale okay so there's that person in on that that person might be in on the joke also trolling and joking like saying let it go flat then it would be good like also making fun of real ale i think i think beer mad uh who's the next person uh says if i'm ever desperate enough to drink this shit uh parentheses which is a lager not an ale by the way i will be on my way to the ultimate destination six feet under oh this guy's say he's take his own life he'd rather die he's he's gonna take his own life than drink foster yeah like i'll only be drinking fosters if i'm dying like like they serve it in the hospital

or maybe maybe yeah maybe he's like really likes it and he's just like yo the only time i'm gonna wait until i'm on my deathbed to really appreciate this captain beaver esquire replied an unbelievable ale and then five of the eye roll emojis so oh i get it a little bit of sarcasm yeah buddy this is not actually an ale yeah that's i i wonder how many of the people are sort of goofing along with it and how many of them are i don't think this person is no that guy is definitely getting trolled right there. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There is a very specific like beer guy thing because you kind of mentioned it earlier.

You know, people who talk about Bud Light or Budweiser or whatever being piss, you know, like, oh, these other beers are piss. And I didn't I didn't used to like beer. You know, when I was younger, I never drank it. And then I stopped drinking for about five or so years because I got really bad migraines um and I was just not worth it anymore but now I'm on a drug that works really well so I can drink again and I've only recently gotten into beer in the last like couple years or so um and I I never liked how it tasted before I like how it tastes now but I would never say that my problem with it when I didn't like it was that it was too watery because I mean, here's the thing is I like water,

water, water is a great drink. One of the best drinks. I'm fine. I'm drinking some right now. I'm drinking some right now. I've got some to get a, Hey,

I just spilled a bunch in my office right before we were. That's true. Right before we started, you don't even respect water actually then. Yeah. He, he actually did everyone by the way, literally right before we were maybe you don't even respect water actually then yeah he actually did everyone by the way literally right before we're about to start recording he spilled an entire

glass of water all over his lap it was really funny for us for 44 ounce hydro flask wow okay that's a lot yeah that's well i found out that that i found the provisional beer list was released for the great british beer festival in 2013 for the Great British Beer Festival in 2013. And Libby, I don't know if you know about the Great British Beer Festival. I don't know about that one in particular, but I did once when I was a teenager go to a local real ale festival in a village near where I grew up. Because my boyfriend in high school was a musician and he was often playing gigs at things like that. So I did go and I do remember trying a beer and being like, this is again, it was a musician and he was often playing gigs at things like that um so uh i did go and i do remember trying a beer and being like this is again it was a summer day it was outside

it was warm like not even cool but warm and flat and i was like god damn how do people drink this shit you know years ago uh i was watching shark tank and i don't know why this stuck in my mind but one of the people had it was this woman who started a business in venice beach on the uh boardwalk which is a hellish place really very not boardwalk area but she was selling on a cart bread pudding and i was just like who the fuck is standing outside when it's 75 80 degrees and saying like i'd like a a bowl of bread pudding and like that's what this reminds me of it's like i'm at a festival it's warm outside and then you fucking hand me a warm fucking beer you know it's funny because when we were trying the real ales yesterday lewis said this is like drinking bread

exactly that's exactly what it is it's like drinking bread and funny especially to have the idea of like yeah like a refreshing beach side you know because in la they have the fruit carts you know and that is refreshing yeah exactly yeah so i'm not really sure whether what is the real ale what does the real ale guy do at the beach you know they're out at the beach they're yeah they're gonna have a they're not they're just gonna have a different type of beverage not a beer probably i don't think so i think they like the beer but because you can't get real ale like in a you can't get it at the store you can't get it where you take it somewhere you have to have it at a pub pretty much right they do have it bottled i know

there was a hobgoblin brand that somebody hipped me to but there here's the list uh they released the list for the great british beer festival which is the biggest real ale festival yeah in the country people travel from all over to be at it and i i don't i'm not gonna travel from Worcester and Chester. Yeah. Okay, Chris. I'm sorry. Alex MFBR said, and this is the most bourbon guy thing I can find. Does anybody else go into beer festivals with a strategy? Something as big as GBBF. I tend to stick the one third pint, eat something small every two hours, and start light and go to

dark plenty of pork scratchings too what are pork scratchings probably pork um pork rinds is exactly right oh okay okay okay classic pub food the the pub i actually put a link in the chat the village i grew up in has a pub that is uh. It's camera certified or whatever the term is. Camera says it's A-OK. And it is small enough that it does not have food at all. They don't serve food. There's no kitchen. But I do remember them having pork scratchings and peanuts and packets of crisps for 20p or something.

Well, then this guy responds to him and he's like as uh i go in with a strategy to be sensible and enjoy myself but usually i just end up great strategy yeah i mean i simply do it well yeah i mean it is hard to be sensible and have fun but you know the guy says i just end up picking beers by how ridiculous their name is and become a hideous drunken wreck by the end of the day i do not beer festival properly um emmy time says halves to start move on to pints and with some ridiculous eight percent perry on the way out that way i get to enjoy the beer and not remember getting home the strategizing here like the eating every two hours thing like it's uh some sort of marathon you know like he's like

he's attempting you know this is the biggest day of the year this is the biggest physical challenge i'll have all the year is drinking as much different as many different kinds of beer as i can in one day well that's funny because i you know that's my wife has like sort of a strategy that never works but uh she when she decides you know i'm gonna fucking go all out i'm gonna get drunk yeah she drinks she she's like for every beer i drink i drink a water of the same size and uh because she she's convinced that like yeah the the drinking the drinking water prevents me from getting too drunk until she's very very drunk yeah and i think that's a lot of these guys their strategy is just like something that is supposed to be not getting you know what i mean something that is supposed to keep them from getting too drunk but they are uh too drunk right exactly yeah yeah and and uh where where's that i mean i got like uh

well they have they have camera vancouver i'm just looking it up right now i think it's folded now but it was a thing but there is a lot of real ale uh bars in vancouver tons and tons of them one's very close by i of course don't drink i don't drink alcohol at all but i don't know i kind of there's a part of me that kind of wants to go chris it's not worth it one of these bars and have just a little bit like not enough to get drunk but like you know have a little bit with somebody else maybe i'll go with stefan and then i'll get that's a great idea i'll have a little bit of it and i'll make stefan drink the whole one when he gets back um i will do that stefan i live right beside each other past guest stefan heck uh and so yeah i'm gonna get stefan to come drink a real ale but don't tell him it's shit though tell him it's like really good i won't

i'm gonna i'm gonna tell oh he listens to the podcast there's a beer oh yeah but it's not gonna be out for yeah you got yeah okay i will i'll be able to fool him easily i'll say that we did this podcast about this particular type of beer this guy's episode and i'll say that but apparently the beer is great i want you to try and see if it's great barley's brewing company which is right around the corner from me is camera certified so so you have have you had a real ale i haven't had an ale or any i we just talked about my jello shot habit because i don't like the taste of beer okay but so i think brian i think it's only fair you know you got patrons you got people who are real you know if you're not going to go to fucking hedonism and

you know get your rod dirty and i think i think you should you should at least go have a real ale down the street let me say okay well how about we compromise brian because obviously i don't want you to break a long running streak of not drinking but you could just stick your rod in some beer for us oh wait you don't you don't drink at all i haven't i haven't had a drink since 2006 not okay i'm the same as you because i had a problem or anything i just don't like the flavor of it i would drink i just don't like feeling drunk but wait wait wait just to be clear have you have you drank alcohol though jello shots are alcohol yeah i know but but but i'm just saying like recently are you like off drinking i don't want you to be drinking a beer if you don't drink.

I'm off drinking, but I'll drink. Like I said, it's not like a drinking. I didn't have to quit because anything went wrong. Okay. I had to. Okay, well then go drink a real ale and take a video of it for the patrons. That's a decent thing to do. I'll tell you what I'll do when I'm in Vancouver later this year.

Me and you will go have a real ale and we'll just share it and sip together maybe we could just buy like a small one maybe in a maybe in a glass the size of the bourbon trail glass well we hey come on that one's tiny that little bullshit glass no fuck that yeah it's like a shot glass certainly no t-shirt i will i will say that i'll make you guys a t-shirt how's that if you do that i'll make you a t-shirt we're gonna do it we're gonna me and chris are gonna drink real ale together one time it's the last time i drink yeah the only it'll yeah we'll have like we'll get a nice photo of us just like really like we'll get in that pub attitude yeah like linked arms standing

up sort of like cheersing like you know maybe singing a little bit of a ditty of some kind yeah we had well that's that's perfect yeah we had a sort of chugging song at uni that i was remembering yesterday i did get quite drunk off these two i think it was a total of two pints uh and i was i was uh i was singing along to pumped up kicks by the time we left you know i was having a good time very nice um we did have a a drinking song that i remembered when i was i was trying to finish the real ale and it was it was hard because each sip you know that thing where you're drinking something you don't like and i found i was sort of holding it in my mouth for a while every time i drank it yeah before i could bring myself to swallow it which

is not good yeah the song we would do at uni was uh it would go we like to drink with libby because libby is our friend we like to drink with libby she gets it down in 10 9 and then you count down and they have to finish it by the end of the That's really good. That's like an old one, right? No, that wasn't just for me. Insert name. That is the interesting

thing about the British beer. Because Americans now at wrestling shows sing Seven Nation Army. and they just put the people's name in there which i believe started not maybe started but jeremy corbin was the first one i'd ever seen and then zach saber jr who is a socialist pro wrestler from uh from europe uh

britain i believe and then like now people do it for just everybody can i say that i don't think that's where it started if i had to guess i know they do it for everyone but if i had to guess it would be it's footy because it's a it's a soccer footy thing so they say like oh anthony gordon like he's like a player for newcastle yeah so that they've been doing it i think for i think that's where it originated was as footy chat. Thank you, Chris, for saying footy. I really appreciate that too because we would have just got so many

But I actually do call it that. Because you watch EPL, right? I'm actually going to go this will date it so I won't say but I'm going to go watch a big match actually that just started. We call them games here in America. We would say a big game.

Yeah, I know. That sort of thing. Yeah, we had thought about maybe playing some Opie because he's a big beer guy and he goes to the pub,

the worst pub in the world. But we did quite a bit of time so maybe we don't even necessarily need to i mean i know it was brought up but you know who brought up opie well i mean i guess i did but i i wasn't i wasn't sure if how long yet we've just done so well doing the evidence I just don't think there's necessarily any need to bring the opster in. Okay. Well, let's bring in Rob Fishburne who reviewed the Churchill tavern.

Oh yes. And that's a five star review. This guy's got, we usually only do like one star reviews, but here's five. If I were ever to move to New York city, this pub would definitely be my local, which it's a bar, dude.

And also, it's tough to, you know how expensive, like, where is it? Because you might not be able to find a place to make it your local, you know, judging on what neighborhood, depending on what neighborhood it's in. Well, I love it. He says a very authentic British pub complete with an old style snug bar. The landlord keeps an excellent pint of foolers, London pride, which is served in an old school British pint mug with dimples and the handle. Oh yeah.

The food was delicious as well. I had the steak and ale pie with proper chips and a side of curry sauce. I loved the Churchill wartime speeches playing on a continuous loop in the gents lol i've already planned my next visit the day after thanksgiving to watch the england's england versus usa world cup game it should be a great day out so that guy was an american guy who just he's fully bought in wait that guy was american why did he why did he love the i don't i know like i just feel like loving the winston churchill maybe he was saying lol so maybe

that was like i love in that like in a sort of silly way because i think it would be weird to really love that i think he was laughing there is a type of american guy that absolutely fucking loves england i can tell you that much. I know. And Ireland, really. My father-in-law is Irish, but he was born here. He's never been to Ireland. He grew up in the fucking southern Ohio. But everything in his house has Irish stuff. And he will say, when you go to his house he'll be like

aaron gabra or whatever that yeah yeah no i have a i have a friend from dublin and we're always laughing about uh americans who think they're irish and the last irish relative came over here in like 1912 or something yeah it's so funny and and like i'm sure a lot of them fall in love. I mean, here's what I think happens with a lot of these guys. They think that everybody in Britain and Ireland is white. You think they might be racist? Yes, I think I do think a lot of those guys. I totally agree.

Yeah, it is weird that that out of all of the sort of European, you know, there's just so many European people who came over to Northica so long ago and they have this like mixed but it's the people who are like yeah from ireland who are like i'm irish irish like it'd be like me being like real like i have norwegian you know like if you go back like my great grandmother or whatever or something but that would be like me like really thinking of myself as a norwegian and like having the norway stuff yes or whatever the only ones who come close i think to the irish in america is italians in america they love saying they're italian of course yeah of course we have little

italy in vancouver and yeah it's wild it's weird because my dad told me when i was younger that we were english like that's what our family's from. And I thought it was really funny. The day after that, I was just like, I'm not going to tell anybody that. So I just told people I was Irish. Wait, why did you think Irish was better? Not to say it's not or anything. We have such a branding problem, don't we?

I thought that you were going to say, I just didn't want people to think. But then you actually wanted them to think you were Irish. That's. Yeah. Cause my mom, I think comes from Irish. Oh,

I see. So you, I get it. It is cooler. I mean, I'm totally happy to say it. Like, I think if you,

if you have sort of, you know, English heritage or whatever in America, that's nothing, you know, I mean, that's just vanilla, isn't it?

Yeah. Nobody cares. They assume everybody they don't know what i mean colin farrell carol's real cool bench the banshees of in a sharon or whatever that was that did make it seem really cool but i it's like the saddest bleakest movie of all time um i love that movie it's a great movie incredible to be incredible yeah i i yeah i i also though i will say i do like england like i you know i watch footy i'm a i'm i do like a lot of uh english tv and movies and i kind of i kind of am sort of a little bit like that you know where i'm like somebody fan but

if somebody asks you like let's say you're down here traveling somewhere and somebody says like what is your heritage very spooky questions first off i would say what's going on here what's going on here brother what are you trying to get at my man i would probably start asking questions myself but yeah if it came down to it i found that they didn't have some strange motives i would probably say i'm a canadian person yeah yeah because i would say i i would probably now in 2023 i would just say i'm from ohio which is like a type of guy that is generally what i am like everybody kind of recognizes me as very Ohio. So,

but, but yeah, my father-in-law, like I said, he did his, what I think he did is he did his family tree and got back to Ireland. Like as soon as he saw Ireland, he was just like, okay.

Yeah. I drink Guinness now and bass. And like, he, he was very much like uh i'm sure he even would like real ale and like i said he had a friend who his wife worked with an english guy and uh the fucking poor guy would come over and i would ask him to do like Austin Powers lines and stuff like that. Like I genuinely feel bad for the way I treated that guy after a while. But my father-in-law would just sit there and spend all of his time trying to impress him by talking about like Irish and English history that he had read, probably like the most surface level shit.

And that was when i realized like this white guys in the united states are so fucking weird you know uh uh i was just reading i'm sorry to uh pull us back to the main topic but i was just reading the reviews uh on untapped which is i guess a beer rating website of uh the Red Lion in the village. The most common British pub name is the Red Lion. Every fucking village has a Red Lion, an hour Red Lion. Jason Hemmings reviewed a beer called A Broken Dream, the Red Lion, and his review was, not a 20-degree beer, but still very good.

What is that what is that i don't know because 20 degrees is not 50 is it yeah that's what i was gonna yeah that's very warm he's hot under the collar too about does he want it warmer or colder then maybe he wanted it colder no he said not a 20 degree i don't know, but 20 degrees is like 68 degrees Fahrenheit. It seems to me that he wanted 20 degrees. Yeah. Oh, I see. Yeah, yeah. That's the main thing I've actually noticed about a lot of these guys.

It's like almost all of the discourse around this is the temperature of the room that they keep the beer in. And that is all the discourse with these guys like is it yes is this a 13 degree beer is this a 20 degree beer you might have put it in a 12 degree place and that may have been what because it seems very hard to replicate yeah to have the same thing every single time what happened to this beer oh sorry i opened a window by accident and it's fucking trash now huge news by the way i just looked up the red line in hawley which is where i grew up was camera's beer of the was sorry the pub of the year in 2015 they should go there now now you gotta go there well it's funny because whenever we've gone back to hawley i don't let lewis go

because everybody's dad goes there um and i don't want him to because i never went you know like i i never went there growing up my mom let me drink in the house so i would just do that i drink on the cricket pitch whatever um but even when i turned 18 it didn't seem appealing to me to go and drink in the pub where everybody's fucking parents was you know drinking and probably annoying as hell oh they're so annoying it's probably like why were why were crickets pitching like no it's a different it's a sport right i know i've watched several cricket documentaries it's very uh it's a very uh i have i've watched three or four cricket documentaries i didn't know there were three or four well there's those ones where they're like they follow

a cricket team oh team for a season. I watched that. I watched one about the corruption in cricket in India. And I think that was a two-parter. I don't know why I watched these things. I can say this. This is a funny kind of cricket joke for the cricket fans out there. It's like, yeah, you do one documentary series on a single test match. If it was, you know, some of them go for a couple of

days long long time that's sort of an inside joke for cricket heads over here i mean we we got the we got the most british uh person on this podcast and it's not libby look i mean i'm about to get my american citizenship so maybe i'll just stop telling people i i grew up in brit at all and try and get my accent down and just completely... Can you try an American accent for us? Do you have one in your repertoire? Sure.

Now that's my fucking... That's what I do when people are like, can you do Australian? That's beautiful. That was the best. That was perfect perfect it's exactly my my australian that me and my daughter would just practice and we would just back and forth to each other no no i mean no no yeah and then stefan now has me doing the uh silt ifrica one oh that's a great one. Also, if you want to do an Australian one.

So there's a long running soap opera in Australia called Neighbors that they would show in the UK. And there was one bit that I guess it was on in the background and my mom was watching it. And a character went, I'm going to have some toast. Whenever she made toast, she would say, I'm going to have some toast. Because it's exactly the same sound as no yeah toast is a good one I like it well Libby

tell people where to find you oh yeah so down at the pub you said it wrong let me do that down the pub oh sorry you can find me down the fucking lemon flag absolutely sorry. You can find me down the fucking

flag. Absolutely. Putting away the pints of old turnip. Turnip. Old turnip, yeah. I stream now at twitch.tv slash libtron.

Don't have a schedule yet, but come and hang out. You got to come on and watch a bunch of american freaks with us sometime that would be lovely on the stream i would love that it's not right it's not chris not even a show bcjs maybe libby one of these days you can come and watch some man cow with us you'll love oh christ okay that's what i'm trying to say, Libby. It's not the type of... It's not fun. You should come over and listen to this and tell me this isn't fun.

Slap, slap, slap on my doodads. All right. That was the grease man part of this. What did he say? He said slap, slap, slap on the doodads. The doodads are testicles. He had to come up with different names for them because he was on the radio in the 80s

and he couldn't say the stuff. And why, Chris, does he want someone to slap on them? Oh, because he's as horny as they... Listen, he's an absolute freak who was kicked off of the radio for extreme racism. He is really one of the worst guys ever in the history of the world. Yeah, that sounds fun.

I would love to do that slap slap slap on the doodads all right chris is that not even a show at the cjs on twitter i am murder x brian obviously you go to patreon.com slash murder x brian every two weeks we do guys plus which is uh a show where i we are only allowed to talk about guys we've covered. And, you know, it might be a panel sometimes. It might just be me and Chris sometimes. But I just got a really great piece from Twitter. There is a loss prevention guy thing that's going very viral.

So, yeah, we're going to look into that. Plus, like I said, you know, we have that new loss prevention guy. And this is airing way after that. So I don't know why I'm doing this. But guys, plus on Patreon dot com slash murder X, Brian. Goodbye. Bye.