Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 17 - EDC (Every Day Carry) Guys with Derek and Dril

Episode Date: June 6, 2023

This week we have great guests from Truthpoint, Twitter, Bluesky, Patreon, and everywhere else Derek and Dril.  It turns out that a lot of people thought this episode was about gun guys, it's not, i...f it was about gun guys it would be called Gun Guys you absolute boobs EDC is so much more than guns, it's guns, lighters, cigarettes, coins (a little bit of chive overlap here) $200 wallets, knives, Multi-tools and any other thing a dude would carry in their purse (they call it a bag) to handle any situation they could get into so, I think you know where Derek and Dril are (adult swim Truthpoint: Dark Web Rising You can get more Dril at twitter.com/dril you can get more Derek at twitter.com/websitehomepage  And there is so much more Chris James at patreon.com/notevenashow and twitter.com/thecjs and I also love him If you like Guys consider signing up for Patreon.com/murderxbryan and you will get Guys+ a podcast about guys: a podcast about guys  I also stream at twitch.tv/MurderXBryan  music by Zachary Fairbrother @avantlard  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys. My name is Brian, and we're talking about a fella that uh i could end up being because i like to buy stuff i have with me chris hey how's it going um yeah excited to uh to just say hi for the first time on this episode yes and we have derrick and drill hey derrick hello hi all right so as you can see i've made my header the uh founder of creativity ink Hey, Derek. Hello. Hi, Drew. All right. So. As you can see, I've made my header the founder of Creativity Inc. Yes. Now, is that real?
Starting point is 00:00:52 Is that a real place? Are they hiring? Do they have any openings? I don't know. That was just like the default when I logged into the StreamYard website. That was a joke that they had come up with. I don't know if it's a joke. I think they want people who are founders of Creativity, Inc. or companies like that to join our website.
Starting point is 00:01:14 I'm currently Googling Creativity, Inc. Mine is Dr. Loss Prevention because I didn't change it from last night. I was a loss prevention fellow. But this week, we're doing EDC, and people have been confused about this. It's two episodes that people have been confused about. The Chive guys and EDC
Starting point is 00:01:33 guys. Do you guys have any opinions on the Chive? You guys Chivers? You Chivers? No, I'm not a Chiver. EDC, is that like EDP? I think it's like BBC, right? Okay, so our guests are confused, right? Oh, okay. So our guests are confused.
Starting point is 00:01:48 So, Brian, listen, I'll tell you. I told you when I looked this up, I did not find. You said, oh, we're doing EDC, guys. I looked it up on Google and did not find any stuff on what we're talking about. I found electronic dance stuff. So, yeah, please, please help us out here. Every day, Carrie, these guys carry their whatever's in their backpack you know what i mean like they'll have like uh well they often joke around and call
Starting point is 00:02:12 it their man purse that's funny that's absurd yeah it's goofy yeah that's silly but it shows that they're secure in their masculinity to to say such things. And just the fact that they carry so many weapons around shows that they're also secure as well. And he wears all black and has a backwards baseball cap, which is also very cool. Let me show you some more EDCs. I wanted to show you
Starting point is 00:02:38 guys a few EDCs out of my doc. So this is one that somebody posted. That's a pocket dump for being on an airplane pocket okay this feels a lot this feels like not the same thing as what that guy because the first guy we saw like had a whole table no like weapons this is just like five things this is yeah this is just like what you would have in your pocket like on a normal day no you wouldn't you would not have a flashlight and uh what the fuck is that like some kind of tiny robot does he have a wallet or is he like so far off the grid that he
Starting point is 00:03:12 doesn't use wallets anymore well they use these metal wallets uh they call them the ridge wallet oh i've heard of them i've heard of they used to get advertised on podcasts all the time actually ridge wallet he's got a bulger I think he's just showing his dick. He's got his watch facing the wrong way. Yeah. That's weird. This guy is not a tactical guy. The MP3 player was the thing.
Starting point is 00:03:36 These perverts, they get creative. You can't just post a picture of your penis anymore. You have to be like. Well, that's what it stands for. Everyday cock. Yeah. I'm an everyday carry guy that's why i'm like showing you this photo but it's like yeah you don't really have the stuff you mostly just have your dick showing you know yeah yeah on the on the uh uh comments for this whiplash 907 said uh because this guy's on a plane whiplash 907 says i play a game where i
Starting point is 00:04:05 bring several knife type items when i fly and see if they'll confiscate them as a fun game i play soccer and like softball and stuff but that does sound like a fun game as well what is a knife type item is that like a fork or a spoon i don't actually know i mean i guess like a pencil like a scalpel yeah yeah like i would just think a knife propeller i would call it a knife if i was bringing a knife yeah yeah but tsa literally yeah knife is like a broad you know uh describer it is actually tsa is either not trying to stop bladed weapons or they are incredibly bad at their jobs. I think we know the answer to that.
Starting point is 00:04:48 I think they're good at their jobs. If you come across a guy with like 30 items in his, what do you call it, pocket dump? They call them a pocket dump, yeah. That's a real term, huh? Okay. Yep. At some point, I think you just wave them on through because... Yeah, it's like a time thing
Starting point is 00:05:05 like they people have to make their flight and stuff and it's like this guy has far too many items for me to check every far too many items yeah and i hate i don't i i actually carry a lot of stuff in my pocket when i travel because i'm trying to like make sure i don't shove a bunch of shit in the bag so i have to empty my pockets and people behind me seem mad at me but also the tsa people seem mad at me so it it's really if you were an edc guy you would be pulling out like 50 different things you'd lay them all in a neat row and then you'd have to photograph them yeah so vamp lord 111 asked why did you choose to use use a separate MP3 player as opposed to downloading the music on your phone? Which was something I was interested in.
Starting point is 00:05:48 Because he wants more items, obviously. Yeah, the person asking the question doesn't understand the game. The game is not trying to streamline. He probably has a weather vane instead of the weather app. He wants to maximize the number of items. Hey, he's not trying to streamline his life at all. He's trying to do the exact opposite. Well, he says it was simply a better option.
Starting point is 00:06:09 After years of fumbling with things I didn't need and hated, it was pleasant being able to simplitize. He did say simplitize. That's not me. Simplify. Simplitize. Yeah, simplify would be a different way to go with that. That's a simpler version of the word.
Starting point is 00:06:24 I'm trying to simplitize my pocket dump. If you wanted to simplitize the word simplitize. Yeah, simplify would be a different way to go with that. That's a simpler version of the word. I'm trying to simplitize my pocket dump. If you wanted to simplitize the word simplitize, you would go with simplify, probably. Back to the things that I believe are better, or rather isn't a thing I don't like, if that makes sense. Nope. Actually, it doesn't make any sense. This next one I want to show you guys is a pocket dump of uh digital can you is there any way that you could like can you just can we use a different term when we say it this is the digital detox pocket dump uh pocket dump is like when you have to take a shit in public and you
Starting point is 00:06:58 you can't get to a toilet so you have to like shit in your pocket yeah you pull down your pads just down to the knees and then you shit into your back pocket yeah that's what back pockets are for yeah yeah i'm gonna post my everyday carry and it's just a handful of shit yeah the digital detox edc includes a cell phone uh with a screen a apple watch and a uh a fucking ebook so i i'm i guess i'm more confused now than i was in the beginning about what this is because these don't seem like this just seems like the normal things you would have in your pocket or when you were going out or something so what makes them everyday care why i'm like am i an everyday carry person because i have my cell phone and my keys with me and stuff well let's check this guy i'll explain all that okay here's the real deal this guy the first guy we had up on the screen the guy who's got like weapons
Starting point is 00:07:55 lined up on a table this is the real deal he looks like either like a fit kevin smith or like an evil santa's brother or something yeah he definitely looks like a like a hot kevin smith like you know if he was in an action movie or something like that and they were doing that weird like the silly i don't think this guy drinks his own piss but he looks like he's heavily considered it yeah he's willing to he hasn't hasn't come to it yet but he's thought about he knows the day will come when it's necessary oh yeah he wants to prepare for it well let's let him explain a little bit of edc stuff here okay so let's get into some edc stuff not necessarily uh well actual edc stuff yeah we're gonna go over some specifics on what it is uh you can carry but i want to really get into the why there's a lot of
Starting point is 00:08:45 guys that you know hey i have a phone great but why you know why why yeah i've always i gotta watch a video to find out why i have a phone asking why they have a phone that's the one thing on that table people aren't asking about is the phone. Yeah. Stuff. All this stuff over here is trying to avoid a diffuse, a confrontation. And then obviously you have your stuff that, you know, check your Instagrams and pocket knives. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:16 He has a lot of knives, like a lot of knives. They're each for killing a specific type of person. Like the one on the left is for children. The one on right is for women the middle one is for uh terrorists the one on the left looks kind of like a caveman knife yeah it's just sort of it's not like a pocket knife it has two lighters i believe that's two lighters oh yeah one's a zippo and then one's one's a bick lighter and one's a zippo yeah Yeah, one's like a luxury model. It depends on the type of place he's going to.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Like if he's going to go to like a high-end place, he'll bust out that one. But if he's going to the bar with his fellas or whatever, he'll bust out the Bic. If you were like a security robot and you could scan people as they walked in a building and you scanned this guy, you would immediately kill him.
Starting point is 00:10:04 You would shoot your laser through his head. He most detectives have weapons. What the fuck is with that gun? It looks like a custom gun you would make in like fucking Minecraft. It might be a holster. It might be in like a holster
Starting point is 00:10:19 or something. It might be like... It's a 3D printed gun. It melts after you shoot one bullet. It might not... I think I remember what he said here but here's he's gonna explain the lighters first which i'm really excited about also they all carry notepads so they can jot down field notes is what they call them okay yeah they're they're feel notes like again i guess it goes to the whole wanting to have a lot of stuff because, you know, there's famously an app in your phone where you can jot notes down. And you can apologize online with that app, all kinds of stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:54 I mean, I don't think that's big enough to fit an entire manifesto in. But so let's get into you're actually getting into some kind of confrontation. So initially you want to diffuse it with your words or whatever it is. You guys are seeing lighters here. Why? I never ask. I assume you want to light something on fire.
Starting point is 00:11:18 No, it's to diffuse things with your words. Here it goes. Guys, belligerent or gal. You gals are belligerent as well. Thank you. Potentially drunk or whatever. Maybe
Starting point is 00:11:31 you should slow the guy down. Calm his temper with maybe some cigarettes. Having a lighter on you, even if you don't smoke, can help out with that kind of situation. It's not something guys really think about. But if you get into your normal BICs, these can be weapons as well.
Starting point is 00:11:52 I don't smoke. I just give cigarettes to guys who are being belligerent. Yeah. That's what the 9-11 hijackers do. We could have just stopped them if they let us bring cigarettes on the plane. Wait a second. So yeah, he's not offering them the lightest cigarette he's saying he's gonna have to offer so he's gonna have to have cigarettes which i don't see here i guess the guy would have cigarettes and then he
Starting point is 00:12:15 would have a lighter probably too i agree i mean yeah yeah and now he's gonna go into the thing from when i was a teenager that you can use a lighter as like a fist pack yeah of course but why would you do that when you have all these other weapons that are specifically meant for being weapons I know I think the problem is you have like 30 items and it's like which one do you pick you know I would have option paralysis when it comes to how do I kill the guy in front of you he needs like a can of hairspray to turn it into a flamethrower. That's literally what I thought he was going to say. It was that he was going to spray something and then light it to like light someone on fire.
Starting point is 00:12:56 If somebody comes after you at the gas station, you can take the handle out and hold the lighter to it. And really blow everybody up. Yeah. Keep it on you. And he decides that it's going to get silly. This little corner right here really is going to get silly. So it's a quick little jab in there and then get out of the situation. Quick little jab.
Starting point is 00:13:22 You just hit him once, done. Get out of the situation. He also said this may be a man or a woman so i'm just like picturing some woman like yelling at him and him just like boom in the head like knocking her out and then walking away well first he says do you want a cigarette and then she said yes and then he says do you have any cigarettes and if she doesn't he punches her yes he's just like well you're being hostile now. He smacks her with the button. There's no other way to get out of this situation. And runs away at 10 miles per hour.
Starting point is 00:13:50 Then he runs away after. You could just run away first, couldn't you? Yeah, you could just. I guess the person's attacking him, maybe. But he never said that. He just said that they decided they wanted to get silly. They're arguing with him. They're saying they don't like his hat or whatever.
Starting point is 00:14:06 Yeah. Why don't you turn your hat around? This only works for disabled people who can't chase you, I guess. They're just asking him to turn his hat around. They're like, you're 45 years old. Why is your hat on backwards? They're fighting for my honor or starting bar fights for a hell of it. I just want to get out of there.
Starting point is 00:14:23 So if I'm going to try to get out of there. If I'm going to try to get out of that situation, I'm going to cheat. They can call me a coward or whatever they want. It doesn't matter. I'm going to use whatever I have on me just to give them a little pop, make them think about it, and then I'm leaving. That's not what happens. You punch them
Starting point is 00:14:39 and they punch you back. They don't think about what they've done after you punch them. They're not like well that was uh yeah that okay that's an eye opener now okay that happened oh gotta recess my life knuckle there hopefully you don't break your hands which will typically happen if you get to that situation but the original concept of this is to you know do you normally break your hands civilly i not a what i was told growing up is a fist pack keeps you from breaking your hand so the lighter should but i don't think
Starting point is 00:15:14 that's actually true especially when you're trying to dig at people with the corner of the bottom of the lighter that has been very confusing to me you can break your hand punching somebody in the face obviously definitely you know like it happens from but not not every time no he said he said that normally happens i guess he has soft hands or something maybe what is that a turquoise ring is that tactical or it's just ugly that's that wedding ring thing that people get where it's a rubber wedding ring and it's for like guys that work i think like okay or something guys who don't want their that's actually good man you're being a little bit classist by making fun of his his ring yeah jimmy fallon should have gotten that. Oh, yeah. It's a situation.
Starting point is 00:16:08 And if it doesn't work, you can get rowdy with it. Now, your next phase is your flashlights over here. And I have an array of them. So some of your older, cheaper ones, your more streamlined ones, and then obviously your more updated, really savvy stuff here. That's a flashlight?
Starting point is 00:16:23 That's three flashlights. And so what is the... I'm interested to hear this because personally, savvy stuff here. That's a flashlight? Three flashlights. I'm interested to hear this because personally, again, I would go with just the good flashlight. I would go with no flashlights. Why do you need a flashlight? Also, your phone has a flash on it. He doesn't understand the functionality
Starting point is 00:16:39 of his phone. We have decided that. He does not know how his phone works. Once we get to the phone section he's gonna be like this can receive calls but i don't know if it does anything else i haven't explored it i don't know if you have to dial a number first but like i'm punching him in and i mean the only thing he said at the beginning about his phone was that he uses it for instagram which i think he's probably like an influencer i don't think you know he's an instagram edc influencer that shows people his three flashlights that he carries like he's the king of edc because he has four of
Starting point is 00:17:14 everything is this a guy just to be i always like to ask this like how many views does this in subscribers is this like a big channel a popular channel 80? 80.7 thousand, and this video has 957 thousand views. So this guy is extremely popular. Yes. He's great. He's really charismatic. Just get one. If it is something that you choose
Starting point is 00:17:37 to use. You don't have to get the baddest fucking thing out there. This thing is massive, so try to hide it it's not it could be very small by the way this is how small is this guy's dick seriously because the thing he's showing that he's claiming is massive is like four inches and it's not as big at all this is the biggest thing i've ever seen a problem if it's not a concern for you then don't worry about it maybe a lot of guys uh carry flashlights where you're at or you can just make a utility belt
Starting point is 00:18:12 and get some badass leather holster for this thing anyway so flashlights uh how they use they're really really effective so really effective against the dark yeah like honestly the dark yeah hates flashlights i love the line that they're really effective so again it's all bare-fisted knuckle stuff and wants to get rowdy uh and he starts coming after you like this thing right here is really disruptive oh fuck you wait so now he's saying in a fight he just flashed it at the camera twice so he's saying basically to distract just like play this fucking rpgs yeah okay i'm gonna afflict the blindness status on this motherfucker if you're fighting a cat you
Starting point is 00:18:58 can use a laser and it'll just chase the laser yeah this guy thinks it's a video game for real like i don't imagine like the idea of him actually utilizing that flashlight thing there's no way he's ever done that in a real fight right like no chance this guy's not getting into fights no i don't think this guy's just walking around the woods collecting like 200 pine cones for a quest well i'm gonna go back to some of the edc uh uh reddit stuff for a minute and um one of the things said for the record tsa doesn't give a dump of your blades if your blades are removed new fastback will be delivered before i even get home so he had this folding blade i can
Starting point is 00:19:40 i can show you guys the folding blade um's a I want to show it to you because When you see what it is So it's a box cutter Oh yeah okay This guy's trying to get a box cutter On an airplane Wasn't there like a big case about that Come on
Starting point is 00:20:00 Somebody was like disrupting the plane By cutting out a bunch of boxes And they had to land the plane because it was so irritating these guys complaining because you can't take a box cutter off of a plane on a plane is great spaceman v said just three months ago the man in front of me in the tsa line had a box cutter with a blade they let him hand over the blade and keep the box cutter the real problem here is that tsa officers have the authority to do whatever they want and just make up the rules as they go i mean that means a
Starting point is 00:20:31 little bit of truth to that maybe that they can be a little that's true but don't bring blades on the plane is kind of one of the easiest rules that's kind of like we i understand that when i'm going to the airport that i'm i'm not going to bring weapons that i could use to hijack a plane or whatever i mean i may need to like open some clamshell packaging on the plane and like get access to my headphones or whatever but you know yeah fuck me right i might need to fly it into a building um chrome calamari said i had to talk my way through getting a couple of sets of allen keys on board once another time we brought our child with us and followed the rules posted online to a t just to be told we had to do things differently when we got on everything is a show
Starting point is 00:21:17 everybody is human nobody knows what they're doing no field is immune to these facts that's like a rick and morty quote and finisher at the end says you have three choices today travel with nothing useful other than electronics and clothes uh carry knifeless tools and risk them being destroyed or check your bags and risk waiting forever to get them back so waiting forever like what what do you like you mean when you get off the plane like having to wait at the baggage carousel is that what they're talking like are these people are so obsessed with having this stuff on them that the idea of just not having it on them for like any period of time is just like anxiety inducing is that what i'm gathering i think they yes they feel like that these are things because like they'll be like oh yeah you know you also need
Starting point is 00:22:03 a pry bar just in case you get this guy you know you also need a pry bar just in case you get this guy i heard say you need a pry bar just in case you get stuck in a train bathroom that he got himself out with having one and and like they just think that like bad stuff is that the real roger stone is that roger roger stone is sloan first of all all, Roger Sloan. And this is a bag called the Larku tactical sling chest bag, EDC shoulder pack, universal dual holster and stuff. So the review from Roger Sloan is good bag needs more holster option. I like this bag. It's made of good materials with the exception of one of the Velcro holsters.
Starting point is 00:22:44 The small clamshell style holster is perfect for smaller semi-autos my g43x fit perfectly in it the other holster however is junk it's adjustable for different sizes but didn't really fit any of my full-size guns and the guns with lights or lasers on them would get hung up that is it yeah i couldn't i couldn't really use my laser guns with it otherwise it's pretty good it's a total no-go that's a total no-go some people will be able to use this holster without problems i'm sure it just doesn't work for me if they would have just made a larger holster like the small one this would have been perfect other than that one problem the rest of the bag is great so this guy needs two guns he has one holster he has one good holster that's all you need he has a shitty holster that he can't use well what kind of what kind of man is this
Starting point is 00:23:38 that doesn't have a you know two ankle holsters a samurai sword 14 flashlights yeah it turns into a bomb yeah i mean you just duct tape the gun to your back like bruce willis and yeah dude if you can't use your laser gun you just fucking die like a loser just just just use one of your grenades or whatever like use a grenade or something if you don't have a flashlight to kill them you light a cigarette for them use your like smoke bombs that you keep in your why don't you a flashlight to kill them they light a cigarette for them use your like smoke bombs that you keep in your why don't you smoke a cigarette with them and talk about the world have you ever thought of that two i love the idea of a backpack that holds two guns and a guy's like it doesn't hold enough guns i think i need to have more guns and this is just a walk
Starting point is 00:24:22 around see because i'm of course you all know i'm a i'm an ignorant canadian and where i live you're not allowed to have a gun and walk around with you but like brian where you live is there open carry like are people allowed to carry their guns with them at the store and stuff where i live you can have several guns on you there isn't really a type of gun that you can't have on you and yeah i carry a bag of flaming hot doritos and i crush them into dust whenever somebody assails me and i throw them in their eye yeah that's pretty good yeah you can you can open carry and concealed carry and i think recently they got rid of the requirement that you have to take classes to concealed carry. And I think recently they got rid of the requirement that you have to take classes to concealed carry.
Starting point is 00:25:06 So you can just sort of. So will you see people regularly, like just with guns, like when you're out of the store or whatever? Yeah. I mean, my father-in-law always has a gun on him, like a handgun and,
Starting point is 00:25:18 uh, he puts it in his, his, uh, it's his EDC. I know you guys are like, oh, this,
Starting point is 00:25:24 this guy's such a... But that just sounds wild to me. I still can't wrap my head around that. Just going to a store and people have guns there that someone could just grab. I don't really understand the open carry aspect of it. Can you have it in your hand? Yes. Basically, a lot of what they do though is the the um yeah
Starting point is 00:25:48 you have like the band and they wear it and it's on their back you know on their back so that's a big gun you're talking about yeah yeah like i could carry it around and just have it pointing at people that's fine yeah with the laser sight that is that restricted only to guns or can i have any weapon can i have a big butcher knife i am i'm carrying the crazy thing is there's a bunch of uh you can i think no because there's a bunch of well yes but there's a bunch of weapons in ohio that are very illegal you're not allowed to have brass knuckles here uh you're not allowed to have those blackjack things that you like can beat people you're not allowed to have any of those weapons you're just allowed to have the guns and they're not right so i i if i'm afraid for my life
Starting point is 00:26:31 because i'm a paranoid i can't get brass knuckles so i might as well just upgrade to a gun and carry that around at all that's all you can get yeah they're sort of they're making it so you don't have any other options how about like gun knuckles like you just attach something to your hand that just shoots bullets out something i learned this 100 legal 100 legal something i learned this week is they have these brass knuckles that just two fingers go in that you can punch somebody because a lot of these guys carry brass knuckles these edc guys which i also do have an article about what you should have for a beginner's guide. And when they say should have, it would seem like it would differ from situation to situation. They're just saying every single time you go outside of your house, you should have these things.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Yeah, these are EDC for like running errands. Okay. You never leave home without. The exact gear varies from person to person and is often defined by one's hobbies occupation and daily errand makes sense yeah and uh so the first thing you should have is a basic multi-tool which that's not a bad that's actually good i mean i i think that's helpful yeah yeah uh knives obviously and also they want you so one of the other things here is to look stylish edc has evolved beyond mere functionality and preparedness these days there's an element of personal expression in one's everyday carry if you're planning to accessorize your edc invest
Starting point is 00:27:58 in handsome gear like an heirloom quality knife a badass badass tactical pin, or a handcrafted key chain. So do it for stylish purposes. So be ready to kill, but also be concerned with fashion as well. Look good. Yeah. Yeah. You want people to be like,
Starting point is 00:28:21 hey man, you know that guy who just fucking massacred all those people in the store because somebody fucking looked at him weird? Man, he actually had a pretty good fit on, to be like hey man you know that guy who just fucking massacred all those people in the store because somebody fucking looked at him weird man he actually had a pretty good fit on to be honest he was looking great uh the first thing they say you need in your edc is your smartphone wait yeah i mean that but again that's just that's every single person on the planet yeah the next thing is a wallet and uh the wallets they use are those ridge wall yeah yeah ridge wallet it's what is it basically it protects you from having your credit card information stolen because it's like metal and it covers that up right is that right right and it's
Starting point is 00:28:57 incredibly hard to use it i had one my my wife got me one for christmas like last year and uh you you have to take all of the cards out of it and go through them and then put them back in it's just that sounds perfect you know what i was traveling the world for like nine months at one point uh and i just had my card in my pocket the entire time never lost it i was using it like random places in cambodia and shit no problem yeah i'm not worried about this i've never had the rfi i'm the rfid thing is like it's so fucking nuts that people think that that's happening yeah i mean the russians they invented a gun that can just microwave your credit card and make you make you zero dollars i mean people get their credit card stuff stolen but it's mostly through
Starting point is 00:29:43 online stuff or at like a skimmer like it'll be on the machine itself or whatever so that doesn't protect you like the idea of yeah someone just like walking you could take your fucking metal ridge wallet and smash the skimmer into bits yeah that'll protect you i do have the wallet on screen for everybody oh shit what it is is that the the wooden american what is what does that signify i don't know that's a wooden american fight yeah i mean yeah the blue one is like police officers but this is just wood it's probably lumberjacks lumberjack lives matter yeah yeah they took up all the lines though the cops only took one line yeah so the first review for this is two stars and it says don't waste your money the flag came off after six months so what was it gonna stick these colors do
Starting point is 00:30:34 run it was a sticker i guess i pulled my wallet out they didn't see the flag they didn't think i was very american uh amazon customer uh number two here gave it three stars which is not bad it's better than average and he says it's a cool wallet but after a couple of months i noticed it's been scratching up a lot of my cards because it holds them together so tightly so three stars it looks nice it's got that american flag on it but it does fuck your cards up it's ruining all of my cards and i continually have to go to the dmv to get a new driver's license but it's a pretty good wallet it looks cool when i pull i'm not an everyday carry guy but i've never fucked up holding uh my card so yeah this isn't an issue for me and i'm a novice well here's an interesting one that
Starting point is 00:31:21 i like to charlie dan, his review is one star. And the subject line says, did not come with instructions. And he says, did not come with instructions, cannot find them online. Okay, but it's just a wallet. You just put your cards into it. Yeah. What does he want to know? He needs a manual for his wallet which is great uh the next guy download the firmware for his wallet fucking wallet.com get the support drivers another one
Starting point is 00:31:57 adrian whiteford said the flag worn off after one month and uh so this this is an issue the flag is it does wear down clearly yeah here's a one star review that says the review is just quality and it says i usually like to give products the benefit of the doubt and i always think just i always end up happy with what I purchased, but this book bag, Oh, this is for a book bag. I see.
Starting point is 00:32:29 I fucked up. Uh, that's kind of a flub in a way. Uh, I do have this, uh, well here actually we'll go to the, uh,
Starting point is 00:32:38 I fucked that up. Let's listen to this guy. Talk some more. Yeah. I wanted to get back to this guy, the original guy that we're listening to, right? Yes. Cause he never even got into his gun or his knives or any of that stuff yet don't really expect it you know it's kind of a submarine move you know oh my god we're getting a fight and all
Starting point is 00:32:55 of a sudden i blind him and he's just not expecting that it could be enough submarine move the reason he's not expecting it is because nobody does it because it's ineffective he won't even recognize it as being aggressive he'll just be like what are you checking the size of my pupils yeah are you are you a police officer yeah you would maybe think that they're a police officer especially got all the tactical stuff on and he's flashing a flashlight maybe that would work in that way or did you grab the wrong thing is what it would feel like. Like, you know,
Starting point is 00:33:28 advantage to slide around the dude and get out of the situation. Again, I'm not trying to defend my honor. I'm just trying to get out of there. But if it doesn't, this is enough to give you the upper hand. And then the end of this thing really doesn't feel good. Again,
Starting point is 00:33:42 I'm going to cheat as much as I can. And so if I bop you on the nose of this thing or on the top of your cranium, it really doesn't feel good. Again, I'm going to cheat as much as I can. And so if I bop you on the nose of this thing or on the top of your cranium, it really doesn't feel good. A lot of these EDC flashlights come with these, you know, rigid ends here. So these jagged edges on the end, and that's not by mistake or by design. So this is flashlight number three. Wait a second. It's not by mistake or by design
Starting point is 00:34:05 it's a third option this is a fucking three stooges move you're just gonna like disable curly for like two seconds totally bopping him on the head with none of these three flashlights are different from each other why does he have three wow the one is square and then the other two are round. I did notice that. One's ridged, one's not ridged. One of them is new and good and the other two are older and not as good.
Starting point is 00:34:34 One of them is for gouging out eyeballs and the other is for hitting people in the penis. That right there on the top of your dome will not feel good. That applies to any object yeah there's not a lot of hard objects that mostly like your hands your hands are good for that yeah your hands could work as well for it definitely yeah you just carry a little rock in your pocket if you're so concerned about smashing people in the head see that is a good
Starting point is 00:35:02 edc thing that's better than the thing that they which this is gonna chris is gonna get so they carry challenge coins too sorry they they uh part of an edc is a challenge coin where i think that's a yugioh thing what are you talking about is it because the chive guys is this related to chive Guys? It is not related. They don't. These are not Chive Guys. It's not necessarily a Chive Guy thing. Okay, because just to be clear to Derek and Trill, the Chive is big into coins now.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Like, the big thing of being a Chive Guy is, like, when you sign up, they send you all these limited edition coins, like Bill Murray coins. Oh, you don't mean, like, crypto. You mean, like. No, I mean actual physical coins and like one of those chris farley and beverly hills ninja that's like one of their biggest coins i don't understand it at all yeah if you pay 299 for the lifetime chive membership brian was going to do until i talked about it honestly i wanted the bill murray coin or the chive coin you get a coin
Starting point is 00:36:07 sent to you and challenge coins uh basically like they say it's a soldier thing so that they can decide who pays for the rounds of drinks oh no or or like you're indecisive ah you know i gotta flip a fucking coin and they they like if you go on amazon there's so many coins that you know are just for those guys it's got like the punisher skull on one side and like uh a gun on the other side they're very uh into coins it's actually to flip a coin though just to make a decision that's like the purpose of it yes oh. Oh. They're probably inspired by the Alcoholics Anonymous coin, which many of them have. Can you hit somebody with a coin? Could this guy figure out how to use a coin as a weapon?
Starting point is 00:36:57 Yeah, you put it in your palm, and then you just, boom, you bop on the top of the head with it. Cranium. Yeah, cranium. Sorry, cranium. You flip a coin you you you flip it they can't stop looking at it you fucking run away and go buy yourself a new 11 coin or you just intimidate them you say flip a coin fucking heads i fucking shoot you tails i stabbed you you know and then they're running away anyways yeah i hit you with a flashlight we just say
Starting point is 00:37:21 here you can have this piece of metal with rosanne bar on it if you give me let me keep my life the chive ones are very like i think there was a bacon one they're just in 2023 it is 2011 sense of humor on coins and i like i don't know i couldn't figure out during the chive episode what they would use them for. And then I was kind of looking through what EDC guys buy, and I found this little round purse thing. It's coin size, a little taller than a coin, and you can put your coin in that. It's for one coin?
Starting point is 00:38:03 An individual coin purse? Yes, one coin? Oh. Individual coin purse? Yes. One coin. Did this just start before or after the NFT debacle? They had coins before NFTs, man. Yeah. They started them back in the 1700s.
Starting point is 00:38:19 He thinks money ripped off NFTs. Yeah, crypto came first and the banks were like, that's actually a pretty good idea. That's a good idea, yeah. The cavemen invented NFTs. Ah, shit, I hit the button like it was going to be real cool there. Get yourself out of there.
Starting point is 00:38:39 And then a lot of the older models obviously don't have that. They were serving a different purpose at the time. But regardless, this still will not feel good so okay you can defuse the situation with this passively and non-violently and get out uh if it does have to go there you can use it as a weapon pretty savvy now you think i'm gonna go to the knives next i'm not i'm going to the okay uh right now uh this is the g48 uh and i i use the uh where these guys shield arms so i got 15 rounds in the magazine one of the pipe and this is a black hawk custom holster so inside the waist belt uh i think we all know what the handgun's for uh so i need to know it does have the flashlight on it you can distract
Starting point is 00:39:30 hang on you wave it around in front of their face then run away this he just said that the gun has a flashlight on it he doesn't even need the flash we have to blind the uh the enemy before shooting him i love that he said flashlight on his gun and i can't pull this thing and start flashing light and people like I would with this thing because I just drew my handgun. As soon as I show this to anybody, like I present it to anybody, I have crossed the line of the legal system and now I'm in deep shit. So I got to be sure that this individual is a threat. So if he has a knife or he also has a gun uh this thing's gonna come out and i may have to skip all these things this thing will come out he's gonna skip all of the
Starting point is 00:40:12 other things yeah um so i found a a clip here that they're selling um i wonder if he's ever been in an altercation yeah if uh if hitting him in the asshole with my wristwatch didn't work, then I'd pull the gun out. So this is a Iron Seals Tactical Cell Phone Holster Pouch. And it... One of the more popular things
Starting point is 00:40:40 they have is this Velcro American flag. I think, you know, everybody's seen... it's a holster for your phone it is it is a phone holster this seems worse than a pocket to me yeah yeah this seems odd like i don't know i guess i see maybe business and then not a holster but they have like on their belt or whatever their phone you know it's almost 3 000 ratings also so like people are buying this shit yeah and they and you can keep those are just the iron seals you know supporting their friends i mean this really feels like even i know all of this is like so
Starting point is 00:41:17 unnecessary and stuff but yeah why why would you have this well i just don't look cool is it like it's it's all about looking like you're some like tactical kind of guy i guess so alonzo crawford gave it one star and he said not happy at all it wasn't nothing like what i see online so um i i like the idea of like um having the cell phone holster on my ankle and then when something happens i reach down and pull out my cell phone and make a post everybody stay calm i know how to handle this everyone i gotta make a sarcastic fucking comment online about it yeah that's these guys can't even do anything cool with their like everyday carries they can't like fix a car they can just like lose fights and run away yeah a lot of them too one of the other interesting things i learned and i did not i i didn't think would be is that a lot of them have fidget toys so like a lot of
Starting point is 00:42:18 them have like thousand dollar fidget spinners and like uh things like that in there so that they can play with them i think that's also what the coin is it feels like like tough guys guys that want to be tough guys want to have some toys to play with when they're out during the day doing what they do it's like i used to complain because my daughter always needed like a snack and like a toy whenever we left the house and it feels like that's like what these guys are up to they're like i need a coin i need a fidget spinner i just have like tactical autism these guys feel like evolved versions of like i remember like in middle school
Starting point is 00:42:58 or something there would always be guys wearing jinko jeans and they would have you know they'd have their pencil their tech deck their duct tape wallet and all this shit it's the same kind of guy yeah yeah i remember we all had that kid who had like a two liter bottle of dr pepper in his big jeans yeah we used to have my i know a lot of me and my friends have talked our parents into getting us these jinkos that had a um kangaroo with uh boxing gloves on the back of them and the reason we wanted them is because the pocket on the back could hold a 40 ounce of beer and we thought it was really cool but it warmed up the beer like immediately on your ass yeah yeah it wasn't the heat of your ass just warms it right up did not work uh disappointed the item was smaller than i expected and said he broke after three days and uh also uh dylan said won't fit does not fit
Starting point is 00:43:53 the galaxy s22 ultra but i do have a good review here um and it's from amazon customer and they say i'm very pleased with this purchase while While ultimate durability remains to be seen, I've spent two weeks in construction and forestry with it. And it's performed flawlessly. Good cushioning and enough extra storage for stuff I'd like to have, but couldn't really easily carry before. Of all things, a pencil. It's a little bulky, I guess, but there isn't really any way to get around having a big slab on your hip with a phone yeah there is you put it in your pocket of all things a pencil if you could imagine normally i have to leave my pencil at home and now it comes with me everywhere
Starting point is 00:44:37 i go you can put the pencil behind your ear and that's also like a look yeah too and you can stab someone yeah i was gonna say put the you can use the pencil to write a note that says please don't kill me and hand it to your assailant so the next thing i found was the uh element phone case uh which is for the iphone 14 it is 233 dollars and 51 cents the iphone as you're saying that no the case oh the case okay oh interesting well it's aggressively rugged tactical and shockproof and can we take a look at this thing yeah can we take a look at this i can show you the 250 dollar uh wallet or phone case which is kind of cool really does it have like charging functionality it does have that oh that's flawless yeah it's a good looking phone case i think i guess i don't i don't know bondage for
Starting point is 00:45:31 your phone it does kind of yeah it is not worth 233 dollars is is i think where i would where i would go with it um i have like a 40 one that's been really good to me and uh so darkly origins is the guy's name they gave a five-star review and he said i pre-ordered this for the iphone 14 pro max when i had finally received it i was awestruck pre-ordered yeah he pre-ordered yeah he got on the pre-order for that yeah the pre-order for a 233 phone case i didn't want to run out fuck yeah yeah as it is an improvement in every conceivable aspect the strength integrity fabricity the f-e-b-r-i-c-i-t-y i've never seen that word it might be a word but i've never i haven't seen it before
Starting point is 00:46:25 yeah we need to simplitize that the wallet kickstand the button cutouts are precise and sensitive and it is nice and heavy just the way i like my cases my favorite case from element since the iphone 11 pro collection it is bulky so if you have small pockets it may not fit well otherwise putting their phone in their pocket you can buy actually a thing where i have a bandolier and it has 12 phones in it you need to be able to turn your pockets inside out at all times to show criminals that you have no money. 12 phones. Each one of them.
Starting point is 00:47:10 You need to fill your wallet with tactical moths to open your wallet. It may not feel well. Otherwise everything about this case is an improvement from the last collection and it's worth every dollar. And this guy, this person might be rich do you know i mean like if you're saying like that's so much money to pay for a case like i just can't imagine not feeling ripped off by it i don't know how good it was if if you're but if you're rich shouldn't you be like more worried about like you could buy like a five
Starting point is 00:47:41 thousand dollar fridge that would be really nice and get into that yeah yeah i think this guy's topping out at his phone case okay yeah you might he's diminishing returns there he's like me i buy uh i'll buy like a really expensive clothes like outfit and then i'm broke for the rest of the month he might do that with his phone case he might put his money in phone cases instead of clothes and then if and he spent so much on it that he's like he has to tell himself it's worth every penny because he's like he's not eating one night or whatever and he's just like no no the case was a good purchase it was pre-ordered it he's like this is my favorite phone case since the phone case like two years ago it's like yeah i love that he he like i've never heard of anybody that are that into phone cases he's on their mailing list like getting the info early yeah that they have a new product that he's
Starting point is 00:48:36 pre-ordering it that's awesome like the per in a perfect world i would rather not have to have a phone case at all. Like I wouldn't just have the phone. Well, Gilberto Cunha gave it five stars and he said, unbelievable. This thing is bad-ass feels like you can take it, take it with you to war. So this guy, that's a Brazilian guy.
Starting point is 00:48:58 For sure. Wishes he was in a war. That's a Brazilian dude. For sure. That's got the most Brazilian nameian name well here's a sad review for one star uh from nick he said three days in and the wallet broke charged me for warranty replacement six days in the back stand broke won't even bother asking for that they apparently don't test their products before up charging and sending crap on the production floor. Will not buy from them again.
Starting point is 00:49:25 $250? I can get a better case at Walmart for $30. Oh, you're an idiot, pal. Yeah, everyone knew that before you made the purchase. So you sort of deserve it a little bit. You got clowned on. Yep. He did.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Cranky Pappy says one star. Uh-oh. Wow. He thinks Cranky Pappy has a few one star reviews out there you know kickstand just fell off randomly after owning the case for four months they sent a replacement kickstand but it's impossible to install because the screws are so small and the screwdriver that comes with it isn't magnetic for 200 plus dollars they should have sent a whole case as a replacement yeah yeah no i i do i guess i do agree there where's the surprise here you guys bought
Starting point is 00:50:12 this shit yeah you are the luds who decided to buy this and the reason i said at the beginning that this is something i could turn into is because i do like buying stuff and having stuff it's one of my favorite one of my favorite functions if you've ever played an rpg and then your inventory is filled up with like 99 wood you could turn into the sky yeah yeah yeah i i think though brian like you you'd like to spend money but this is like silly stupid stuff you spend your money on like like smart like like lego and stuff like stuff that's actually like helps your life in a practical way i spend several thousand dollars on lego and shirts what you need is to have one lego piece in each compartment of your jeans and then when an altercation happens you pull them out one at a
Starting point is 00:51:02 time and then build an object that you smash into their face. Yeah, build a gun. Build a Lego gun slowly while they're looking at you. I think it's against the law. We'll check in with our guy again here. And ultimately, you're giving them a choice. A really quick one. So if they back away away that's your chance to
Starting point is 00:51:26 get out of there you don't want to raise to that level of having it back away you can shoot them in the back as it sounds yeah this guy well here even if you're justified it's gonna ruin your life for he said as cool as it sounds as it sounds to just fucking like end somebody's existence on this fucking planet as cool as that sounds it's not it's not all it's cracked up to me there are some ramifications some guy bumps into me at the bar next second his head's missing you know yeah that's the choice he made seems cool like it seems like one of the coolest stories ever but for the next year two years just depends on where you're at and how crammed the legal system is there uh and then like anything else like mma and stuff you're putting your hands at the judges so uh you really want that's that's such a cool analogy yeah
Starting point is 00:52:18 yeah you just compare murder to the judges at MMA. Yeah, that's right. Same guys. Shooting an unarmed man is the same as kicking in the penis. That is the way to go. It's pretty easy to know. The guy has a knife. The guy has a gun.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Or gal. Again, you guys are ready to go. Thank you for that, by Thank you. I do appreciate him being inclusive. I might have to blow away a woman. I would I would happily shoot a woman just as much as I'd shoot a man or non binary. Let's Yeah, this guy's like, he would probably shoot anybody regardless of their gender. I didn't understand it until you compared it to the judges at mma yes yeah excuse me you said i killed her i killed them actually yeah thank you excuse me it is that it is nice to hear i mean a guy that definitely probably has the worst politics in the world like including women in the thing uh i like it
Starting point is 00:53:27 or children hey yeah he hasn't added that as cool as it would be to fucking kill a kid uh no it'd be very easy you know they're very bad at defending themselves he's more than killing kids indirectly he'll leave his guns around the house. His kid will find it and blow his friend away. Yeah, you can bash your kid's head in with one of these flashlights. And that is a possibility. I always carry a sack of oranges. That way it doesn't leave bruises. That's a pretty clear sign. Anything else you can use to get out of the situation, sure.
Starting point is 00:54:01 They got a weapon. That's it. It's clearly defined. Pull that thing okay um but to get into why knives like the question was asked me before like if you're carrying a gun then why would you carry a knife because if you are in close proximity with the another individual um and this is a you know automatic pistol semi-automatic pistol it's very easy for to grab this thing,
Starting point is 00:54:26 throw this thing at a battery. And now I'm not able to discharge that weapon. Also, if I lose the weapon in a scuffle, you got to have backups. So this is where knives come in. If you lose your gun in a scuffle, forget it. Yeah. This guy really thinks he's in a video game he really
Starting point is 00:54:46 thinks he's walking around in a video you should also wear like a suicide vest just in case he's run out of options entirely yeah yeah or cyanide pill or something yeah just something to end it all it is kind of funny that the escalation of this goes from you could light their cigarette for them or shoot them to death uh and i have you know from your advantage from right to left yep what of what i would carry uh on the on your right here is this uh bench made infidel it's a it's a good name for it i'm gonna be honest i almost bought this knife i think because i got way into infidel yeah i got way into knives last year or two years ago and that's just one of the best ones i think it is one of the nice ones and i like like the switchblade kind that come you hit a button and it comes out now he does not those are legal are those legal where you are yeah they're those are
Starting point is 00:55:44 legal here recently they recently made them legal? Yeah, those are legal here. Recently. They recently made them legal here. Switchblades are illegal where I am, definitely. You can have a knife or a closed one or whatever, but you can't have a switchblade. That's one of the only ones. It's funny for it to not be legal and to become legal. It's like, was there a campaign where there are guys making speeches? Like, we have to make switchblades legal, goddammit.
Starting point is 00:56:07 This is a free country. I'm tired of spending two to three seconds taking my blade out when I want to stab somebody. It seems like it would be hard to get that passed, but I guess it's a different place than where I live. Maybe the governor ran on a pro-switchblade
Starting point is 00:56:22 platform. I'm just proud of them for taking ownership of the slur infidel you know it is nice that i word so yeah i had a i did a live show in new york one time and at after the show i was outside hanging out and this guy walks up to me and he's like i got something for you and i was like oh i pretty because usually people give me drugs which is neat he handed me a fucking uh shiv like a knife that is made out of a nail that you would have and there was a lawyer close to me and was like if you get caught with that you're gonna go to jail so i kind of had to throw it to trash i wanted to bring it home i thought it was the coolest thing a fan had ever given me oh no it was made of a nail it wasn't isn't a nail already
Starting point is 00:57:05 sharp it is it is they used a nail and some wood and and like oh they i see it's just like yeah shiv is just like a fast and like something you make your own knife in prison is where i was from i think i'd been talking a lot about how i wanted a zip gun and uh i think you know the guy couldn't make a zip gun because he's in New York and they don't allow those. So I am not a fan of spring loaded knives. Let's see if I can do it because of that. It's not fully seated. Very easy to push back in. And this thing is basically brand new. I never really used it.
Starting point is 00:57:43 I'm sure if I put some oil in there it would fix the situation but i really i would always be thinking about this thing like i hope it works plus also along with some of these other ones uh it's a clip mounted belt so obviously you see folks you know put it in their pockets and standard you know operating procedure guys walking around with with belts in their in their pockets and i just don't appreciate that anymore um why i don't appreciate that he doesn't know absolutely does not appreciate the whole uh belts in their pocket is is what he called it um i did find the other thing that they really like and that is their bag yeah of course now and and they like we talk they joke and they call them a man purse are they kind
Starting point is 00:58:33 of like purse like or what kind of bags are they usually working with i'm sure derrick and drill have seen these a million fucking times i'm gonna show you yeah we've seen all kinds of purses you've seen what they like to carry um because it just is everywhere um like just a man purse like those ones that like the shoulder bags or whatever oh oh okay it's a bag that's made to look dirty first of all yeah it's kind of like desert storm but it doesn't it doesn't well it only has one strap what's the deal with that it goes around it's a shoulder bag so oh i see yeah they like the like shoulder sling thing i think because they i saw a guy explain that you can like whip it around and pull your gun out of it really fast which it never would work you can buy a
Starting point is 00:59:25 second one for your other shoulder yeah it feels like a lot of these guys have a lot of like really good plans as far as what they're gonna do and i just imagine that almost none of them would work when they actually when it came down to it yeah wolf x5 gave it one star and uh the review says a quality bag for gear just not a good choice if you need quick access to a pistol uh don't well i i don't i don't need it so that should be which one yeah um you know you might need to quickly get access to your gun during a mass shooting event so you can accidentally shoot a bystander. Or be killed by the police. When they think that you're the shooter. Yeah that's a good point.
Starting point is 01:00:09 So he goes don't get me wrong. This is a quality bag despite it's small size. It holds your eyewear headset. And a few boxes of ammo just fine. The reason I ding this bag. On the rating so hard. Was because it is a terrible choice. If you're looking for a secure way.
Starting point is 01:00:24 To quickly access your pistol in the same bag. While there is an ample-sized carry pouch on the back side of the bag, which you can't see from the pictures, which will hold a full-frame pistol, the problem is that the manufacturer created the bag in such a way that the top of that pouch is non-zippered and open enough that the pistol could easily fall out when donning the bag on or off your body i like donning uh these guys don't live in the real fucking world yeah it's plenty fps's yeah it really is like that that's it's really a fantasy it is like a total fantasy what they probably think oh if i carried a bazooka and shot at the
Starting point is 01:01:06 ground that allows me to double jump even in video games you don't carry all this shit you if you have like three knives you sell two of them get the money uh the man you're the best knife the manufacturer also did not think to put a side zipper in the same pouch whereby one could covertly access the pistol either again it's a great bag but if you're looking for a way to securely hold a pistol that can be covertly accessed then it would be best to consider another bag altogether like is he planning to do a terrorist attack like what why does he need to be able to what's going on in this country and like we have an entire industry that's that's made for for mass shooters basically like who's the shit made for that i see it it's like a cosplay thing almost
Starting point is 01:01:54 in a way it's like guys that wish they would have gone to war we we've been talking a lot on the stream and we did talk on the show recently about loss prevention guys, the guys at the grocery store that try to catch you stealing. And we noticed that like when you listen to them talk about their job, they really use like a lot of cop language. And military even like they just really are like remembering it. Like there's just I think people through video games and whatever that they just like really want to live that life. And so they're just imagining it in this way and i think these guys are they go back into target because i have ptsd and i start they really think they're gonna have an altercate like they really think i have to prepare myself they see on the news like oh antifa is is doing you know they're they're out there protesting or
Starting point is 01:02:46 whatever i could be set upon at any moment and that like allows them to feel like they're living in a cooler life that's like it's like the kyle rittenhouse thing it's like if you spend all your time preparing for something to happen you'll make it happen totally what happens to the people what happens to the people where what happens to the people where nothing happens i feel like eventually they're just like well i should make something happen yeah i have all this equipment it costs a lot of money and now it's all going to waste like yeah it does feel like it would you'd be more predisposed to like starting an altercation if you have all of this stuff he's saying it's the opposite the guy's like no this makes you prepared and allows you to like diffuse the situation i i can i can diffuse the situation without all those
Starting point is 01:03:30 weapons you know like you can try at the very least at first yeah they they yeah it is definitely like a thing where these guys see themselves as like batman more than anything because i've heard them talk about utility belts too which is that's an insane thing to wear just around town with like seven knives a gun two flashlights your phone a flip phone just in case the phone grid goes down i've seen people are like laughing at them and they don't even realize it like normal people see somebody like that and it's like a joke to them it's like even like patriotic people i think laughing at them and they don't even realize it. Like normal people see somebody like that. And it's like a joke to them. It's like even like patriotic people.
Starting point is 01:04:08 I think some of them, they're like, see that. And they're like, come on, man. Like this is fucking pathetic. But in their head,
Starting point is 01:04:13 they don't see that at all. I don't think, well, it is just like the recent, we watched that video of that guy that worked loss prevention that like framed it. Like he had a jurisdiction. Yeah. Where he's like, yeah, I worked all over council bluffs and a had a jurisdiction yeah where he's like yeah
Starting point is 01:04:25 i worked all over council bluffs and a couple other places and it's like you work for fucking coals dude coals is your jurisdiction yeah i'm all over the women's department yeah that was my first beat before it came out. One of the bag reviews is arrived broken. The bag is rather small. Upon arrival, I opened it to check it out and immediately noticed that it has a broken button on it.
Starting point is 01:04:56 The back pocket is not usable for my bag because it was delivered broke. I'm very disappointed because we planned on using that pocket. That was one of the pockets. I was going to carry my gun today. Now I can't. Well, David Zonin even had a worse situation
Starting point is 01:05:12 happen. Bag is nice, but flag was missing. There's no option. Oh, what? That's the most important part of this. What the fuck? People might think you're fucking Canadian or something like that. Yeah. I wonder if they wear those outside of the country those these bags with these american flags on the back yeah that used to be a thing they would always talk about it was like a
Starting point is 01:05:34 big point of pride in our country when i was younger that like americans would you they would wear canadian flag things on their bags that's what they would tell us because they didn't want people to think they're american i don't know if that's true but yeah i don't know i never when i was traveling i never saw a canadian flag but i did see some people with american flags yeah um so yeah so probably it's a lie that we came up with like we have a lot of that in canada we're like we're just a little bit better and we're just a little bit nicer and kinder and stuff i think we're kind of we're kind of shitty too to be honest in similar ways you know yeah i mean my father i was just talking to my father-in-law the other day and he was telling me that like um so he was stationed in japan for a period of time
Starting point is 01:06:21 and uh he pulled me aside and said nicest people you'll ever meet except for in hiroshima and nagasaki they weren't incredibly nice to us and i was like yeah i wonder i wonder what i wonder if there's what's yeah what is there a connection with those two cities i don't know yeah it was i it was very strange so i got uh one last thing so i can show you uh that i wanted to i want to make sure we get in there. So you can see how much this sort of thing costs, really. This is a pre-made EDC kit. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:06:57 3,000 reviews. So people are buying this. This feels like bullshit to me as an old school EDC guy. It's like this is fucking just for all the casuals who want to fucking be about the life, but they can't. You roll to the EDC forum. They're going to laugh you out. Yeah, come on. And the problem is it's $29.59 or you can get that's a 23 in one.
Starting point is 01:07:20 You can get the 22 in one for $25.20. Well, it looks like shit. It's it's not 500 it's probably not worth it then it can't be i was thinking about because when i read the reviews on some of these things where they give you like an 80 piece kit for 50 and then you look at the other 80 piece kit and it's like 550 and my phone case costs more than that come on well what does it got in there what is that a spork i yes so it's got a a scroll down yeah i can't see it oh you can't yeah can we see it you gotta scroll on the screen so we can see the actual oh shit okay i need i i sorry guys uh i me see a little bit i can see the there you go there it
Starting point is 01:08:06 is of the fork yeah so it looks like it has a knife which a knife costs more than 23 yeah this is too cheap like like because it's good it's gotta be less expensive obviously and i was gonna sort of make a joke about this is too when you see a product like this and there's this much in it, you have to question the quality, definitely. You don't buy this. It's like a loot crate where it's just like, how do we unload this shit that nobody would ever buy?
Starting point is 01:08:35 They have an EDC crate thing now where you can get your EDC stuff every month, which is nice. I thought about signing up because I was interested. Brian, you can't sign up for that kind of stuff. You should do it for the podcast, you guys.
Starting point is 01:08:52 Come on. Write it off on your text. Here's a review of it. It's a decent kit. It has pros and cons. It's a good kit for my needs because I'm not an avid adventurer. I really only keep it in my car for emergencies or for when I go camping. Overall, I'm pleased. This is a good kit for my need because i'm not an avid adventurer i really only keep it in my car for emergencies or for when i go camping overall i'm pleased so this is a good kit for me because i've
Starting point is 01:09:10 never had to use it one single time and i found that it works very well yeah the pros it's not overly bulky or overly heavy to carry with my camping gear it's not it should be a little heavy it has like you know a lot of metal weight to it yeah the items are like little circles and strings and shit it's like yeah what are you doing measuring nautical feet or something it looks like a tiny pair of handcuffs in there yeah there was a one-inch ruler like what is this shit for it had like a bottle opener a flashlight some sort of pen. It has the tactical pen, which is really important to these people.
Starting point is 01:09:49 I think that's part of it, though, is like, you know, it's not really about even the guy that's carrying six knives. It's not really about using any of it. It's about how can I imagine I would use this? Yeah. What does that say about me and my imagination? Yeah, just fantasizing about the possibilities if you uh if you take all the stuff out of the kit you can just urinate right in the box and store your urine so they love pens they have tactical pens what did i miss something what is a tactical pen it's a pen that
Starting point is 01:10:21 can also be used as a stabber that's every pen every pen but it's a more powerful stab more more powerful the stabbing okay it gets more stabs the ink is like poisonous it affects confusion i'd be into that more so uh here's let's get to the cons if only used for emergencies i think the material is good enough if you're the kind of person who goes on a lot of adventures in the middle of nowhere you may want to invest in something a bit more sturdy which if you're like the tomb raider i don't know why this guy keeps saying i think i think this guy thinks that like there are other cooler guys that are going on adventures with their well he's just sort of saying don't
Starting point is 01:11:06 yeah don't if you're gonna rely on this stuff in a potentially life-threatening situation i would not rely on this stuff i think it's accurate indiana jones got all this stuff for 20 from amazon yeah that's what i'm saying i'd venture to say that like maybe one half out of ten one half of a person out of ten has an adventure in their whole entire life. I've never had one. Out of curiosity You've never had an adventure? No, what's an adventure?
Starting point is 01:11:35 You've never gone out camping or something in the middle of nowhere? I think for girls an adventure is just going to a new whiskey place or something, right? That's a little profile thing a little imbibing a little imbibing on some whiskey oh man finally daniel minnick uh got women in whiskey we it came up again on the show so it must be happening now yeah we did whiskey guys on a past episode and we learned a lot about if you guys have to build a giant venn diagram and find out where
Starting point is 01:12:05 all these i guess this is kind of like the guy's intersectionality if you've heard of that term yeah i mean oh of course i have a lot i don't think they all kind of oh because dave navarro was an episode um and karate guys i think would definitely overlap with these guys Roddy guys, I think would definitely overlap with these guys. Yeah. Out of curiosity. So here's the next one. Out of curiosity, I shook the survival bracelet a bit, which I don't know what a survival bracelet is.
Starting point is 01:12:33 And notice the compass would sometimes end up showing a different location direction. I tested this a bit and it seems that about once every three times it's shaken, it will indicate a different direction. Well, that's tough, but two out of three times you're going to go to the right in the right direction that's pretty good the survival bracelets that's a thing your mom buys on a boat so she doesn't puke yes be aware that the flashlight does not have a battery in it so make sure you get one and insert it before you store the kit in your car bag and our final con here is I think the mention of 24 pieces is misleading. I counted and recounted the items, and there are definitely not 24.
Starting point is 01:13:14 Even the instruction manual only lists 16 items, including the carrying case, which isn't really a survival tool itself. This guy doesn't want tools. He just wants pieces. Yeah, that's all of them. it comes back to that same thing they just want to have the most and he'll have a like 100 pieces they should all carry around jigsaw puzzles with them yeah oh man i mean this is really these guys these guys are a little sad like i thought we were gonna be talking about just like hardcore gun guys who are like really really scary guys guys, you know, but it turns out these guys. Everyday carry guys, you know, me and the boys, we used to call ourselves everyday carry guys because we watched Drew Carey show.
Starting point is 01:13:56 Fucking Mimi was Mimi was always giving him the business. I mean, I I like I knew that it wasn't all guns but i did some of the things like i said there's a few things that uh there's a few things that were interesting to me and one was the fidget spinners and two was the challenge coins because they seem like such useless things to have on you if you're trying to have like a decent because that's what they're saying i want i want to leave the house and be ready for anything that could possibly happen which is impossible unless you carry a toolbox around like if you carried a toolbox around with you but it also has to be minimal and uh fit as many things in it like they talk about those those credit card knives. They keep those in their wallet. And it's really weird, these guys.
Starting point is 01:14:49 And also, they want to kill people. Yeah, that is sort of a different aspect of them. Maybe loss prevention guys kind of want to kill people, too. But these are the first ones who seem to have a little bit of bloodlust as well. Yeah, loss prevention guys are are fucking idiots though i guess is is the different well these guys are too i mean basically well it's it's more like morally sound to kill someone for shoplifting a pair of double a batteries you know well but i mean what if they needed the the batteries because their fucking kit didn't
Starting point is 01:15:23 give them to them for their fucking flashlight you know they don't have any extra money yeah before we go i wanted to show you a coin uh oh my god that is the uh coins that they bought they carry around um i can give you the other side yeah well it's a skull and it says tempest i don't I don't understand. Maybe you guys know this. It looks to be Latin. Tempus fugit memento mori. That's what it says on this and it has a skull. And then on the back it says vac vitum incredibilum
Starting point is 01:15:56 memento vivere. So I don't know. I can read one of the positive reviews and see what we can paying 12 cents for divorce paying 12.99 for a coin like paying for like a money like you know paying more than what it is is always so funny to me you know well billy d williams which i don't think is the real guy might be said uh the coin looks cool and hardcore,
Starting point is 01:16:26 but it is smaller than my other coins. My other coins are the normal challenge coin size at 1.5, and this coin is about 1.25. Oh, no. There's a normal challenge coin size? Yeah. Well, yeah, you want to fit in your challenge coin holder. Yeah, of course. You have your challenge coin purse.
Starting point is 01:16:42 This token doesn't jive with my Chuck E. Cheese tokens that I've carried for like 20 years. See, now, a Chuck E. Cheese one, at least maybe you'd get to use one. But yeah, a lot of times they'll say that these coins are nice for remembering stoicism. So, uh...
Starting point is 01:16:59 What? They're stoics. Yeah, I don't think the stoics were into carrying around a bunch of shit. I don't think so, no. Yeah. Yeah. So I want to thank you guys for doing this. And I should have said hi to you at the thing.
Starting point is 01:17:14 But like I said, I was going through a situation where I got put on the guest list by Matt. Did we mention this on the episode, Brian? Did we talk about it on the episode brian saw them perform live in in la when he was there the one time he's ever been to la and the third fourth and he didn't didn't even go up and say hi to these two nice gentlemen he didn't he did tell me though i will say this so i can save him he told me afterwards that you guys were fucking hilarious so yeah we'll say that's good. I loved, I loved the thing and I wanted to say hi,
Starting point is 01:17:48 but like I said, there were, well, you, you weren't prepared for such an interaction. You know, you, you left your kid at home.
Starting point is 01:17:54 That's true. That's true. I also want to say at that same thing, I bit my tongue so bad that I was bleeding like the whole time I was there. And also, uh, you know i had gotten him for free because matt put me on a guest list and the minute i walked in the door they were like this is a fundraiser for earthquakes and i was like fuck okay well i don't i feel bad now i would have paid
Starting point is 01:18:20 to get in here i mean you're not as bad as the guy who we had come on stage and then he tried like the whole bit was to explain there was like an auction and we were like all right so whoever bids the highest will get to come on stage and we'll do like a fake uh date with drill with you and a guy and a guy did the high bid and then then at the end of our little set or whatever, he was like, oh, yeah, I didn't send any money. I was like, what? That wasn't. You were supposed to send the money. We're the people that are fucking around and doing the joke.
Starting point is 01:18:56 You were supposed to actually. That's a crime that you committed. This is a fundraiser. A guy in front of me yelled out a very high number two and uh you guys were like where is he and he was hiding behind his buddy and giggling and i i like actually wish i would have had my edc bag with me with my shirt on your lost prevention yeah i think darren was doing the auction here he didn't like uh i don't think he i don't think he went hard enough you know there were people you just heard like the first like three-figure number and you got He was doing the auctioneer. He didn't like, uh, I don't think he, I don't think you went hard enough. You know,
Starting point is 01:19:25 there were people that you just heard like the first, like three figure number and you got super excited. You'd creamed your jeans and you're like that guy. I was trying to get the people on stage. I was yelling. I was saying people, you know what the thing is, we didn't have security at the event,
Starting point is 01:19:40 you know? And the issue is you had nothing, nothing to compel them to come on stage. Like if you had your kit again with you, had the flashlight or whatever you're fucking beaming them i'd fucking showing them you know showing them that yeah i mean luckily the guy who tried to con us was very like weak so it just required a tiny bit of pressure before he paid up very early on in in street fight when i was doing that and we were performing live, I was always trying to come up with ways to get people to come on stage and be a part of the show
Starting point is 01:20:11 and that never worked. It was always like we would plan for okay, so let's let the last 15 minutes or so be audience participation and then nobody would participate and we would be standing there like i don't i we don't have 15 more minutes yeah it's a really tough thing if i'm doing stand-up like to count on by the way just to mention the audience i used to be a stand-up comic um i mentioned that almost every episode um but yeah it is kind of hard if you're counting on the audience to do something you can't really do that because they just will let you down over
Starting point is 01:20:45 and over again that's why you just gotta go into the audience yeah directly across people that's true and and they they they will when they try to be funny uh is that's the worst those are the people that volunteer and it's like of course that's the person who would want to come out on stage is the person who's going to try to be funny yeah we did have also i'll say one more we did have a wedding in texas at the end of one of our shows and uh we're like fuck it yeah you can get married on stage whatever and the guy like talked me into being like his best man or whatever and he stood and stared at me the whole time and didn't like look at his wife and was like expecting me to riff on the vows i don't know what the fuck they can't be still married i just can't imagine riff on the vows yeah they want me to riff on the
Starting point is 01:21:34 and i was just like this is a wedding man i now pronounce you husband and bitch well derrick and drill i want to thank you for coming on did you have anything you want to plug announce you husband and bitch. Well, Derek and Drill, I want to thank you for coming on. Did you have anything you want to plug? Check out our appearances on your Kickstarter sucks and Block Party. I'm not familiar with
Starting point is 01:21:57 those podcasts, but I'll check them out. They're now defunct because of our stuff we did. It's over now. I did want to share yeah just just other every just other they're now defunct because of our uh you guys are out of it it's over now it's too bad i did want to share uh a video with you guys it's three minutes long you don't have to watch in this episode but i think it's somewhat a bunch of items. It's from what's it called? Daoyin or whatever, the Chinese TikTok.
Starting point is 01:22:33 Yeah. I'm looking at it right now. It's a very fascinating video. There's a lot of weird stuff here. It's in Japanese. It's in Chinese. i can't like play it's in chinese yeah yeah i knew that actually i knew it was chinese maybe pass that along to the patreon or whatever it's extremely uh funny well let's talk about what we'll do is we'll talk about on guys plus we have it we have a patreon where we talk about past guys and stuff like that and we
Starting point is 01:23:03 have a stream that we do as well. Yeah, we could show this on a stream. So thank you, everybody, for doing the show and listening. Go to Patreon.com slash MurderXBrian for Guys Plus and the Jeff Dunham podcast where I talk about Jeff Dunham. Might be done with that by the time this airs. And thank you, Derek and Drill. I appreciate you doing this. And Chris, I mean, you know. I'm just here. Thank you. time this airs and uh thank you derek and drill i appreciate you doing this and chris i mean you
Starting point is 01:23:25 know i'm just here thank you thank you for having us on and promoting our toxic brand

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