Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 18 - South Park Guys with Henry Gilbert and Bob Mackey and of course Chris James

Episode Date: June 13, 2023

We brought the guys from Talking Simpsons Bob Mackey and Henry Gilbert to check out everyone's favorite cartoon in 2003 South Park guys. You may ask yourslef if there even are south park guys in 2023 and the answer is YES and they are just as hardcore as you were when you were 17 We meet a brave mod that keeps everyone in line on the comedy central south park forum and we see some very thought provoking lore questions that Henry was able to help us out with (he says he isn't a South Park Guty but he knows a lot about South Park Find Chris James on twitter at twitter.com/thecjs and on youtube at https://www.youtube.com/notevenashow and https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow/ He is a good man and I love him For more Guys listen to Guys + which costs $5 a month at patreon.com/murderxbryan this show was picked by my patrons and you will get to pick about one a month  For more of me and chris check out the Sunday Night Stream at twitch.tv/murderxbryan Screw you guys I'm going home

Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys. I am Brian. I have somebody whose name doesn't make any sense in the context of the South Park Guys episode. Chris the Shark, Chris James. Well, yeah, I didn't change it. I was Chris the Shark from before and I just kept it. So what's the big idea with calling me out for that? There's not even a visual element to this.

Nobody would have known that if you could have just kept your damn mouth shut did you see my name brian under that come on oh uh oh mr garrison okay yeah does he still i wonder if i haven't watched why are you sure we'll get into this but i haven't watched any recent south I'm sure we'll get into this, but I haven't watched any recent South Park. So I wonder if my favorites like Mr. Garrison are still around. I think he's the president of the United States. Wait, wait, no. Mr. Garrison's not the guy who says, mm, okay. Okay, I'm going to bring our guests in real quick. That's fine.

We'll leave this in. Wait a second. You thought he was? We'll leave this in. I have this week on guys, two animation experts. I've done their show, Talking Simpsons, a few times. Bob Mackey and Henry Gilbert. Right.

I got it right. Please tell me. Yeah. Hey, I'm Henry. Hi. Hey, it's Bob. It's an honor to be on the show as a recovering South Park guy and current Simpsons guy. Well, Simpsons guys, other than, I mean, Simpsons guys, the with them right is that uh uh so the simpsons

sucks now you know there's a new turn that there's they're starting to be the argument that simpsons is entering a new good era no currently like that's uh i'm saying where the where the the discourse is moving we're just quoting vulture yes yeah There was just a big piece in Vulture about it, yeah. Oh, I don't trust Vulture because they haven't written about guys yet. Well, yeah, they got to get on that then. Then we'll know if they're really tastebakers. Yeah. Yeah.

It's crazy how they wouldn't actually know about this. So I'm going to go around here. They might know about it and just have chosen not to write about it. That's another possibility. Everybody tell Vulture to go around here. They might know about it and just have chosen not to write about it. That's another possibility. Everybody tell Vulture to write about us. If you know somebody from Vulture or anything like that, tell them there's this new cool podcast in town called Guys. And every episode's been great, especially this one.

Chris, you said you were a South Park guy. I'm going to start with me, obviously. I watched the first episode when it aired in 1997. start with me obviously i watched the first episode when it aired in 1997 and uh i probably watched five seasons maybe and then was like i'm done with this shit i quit before corn was on it which you know uh chris when did you what was your run with south park it was longer than that definitely i watched in the beginning so i'm trying to think i would have been a teenager when it came on so i would have been like 13 years old um so it was right in my wheelhouse it was you know the funniest thing in the world to me i was obsessed with it i

had t-shirt of all of kenny's deaths you know the mini deaths of kenny and i thought it was like the coolest t-shirt you could ever wear. I think I probably, though, I'm thinking I must have watched it. How many seasons are there? Because I probably watched it up until about maybe six years ago. 26. Yeah, so I watched it for a while. Maybe not that long then.

Maybe up until 10 years ago. But yeah, I'm not sure what got me out of it. I guess maybe I grew up a little bit, perhaps, and of changed my perspective well 10 years ago listen i i might have grown up a little bit late you know you could you could argue that uh but yeah i i was obsessed with it it was my favorite show in the world for a considerable amount of time well you can tell it's funny bob what did when when when did you do uh also day one viewer uh i think i watched it through season 11 and it's the perfect show to watch when you only have other white male friends in the late 90s and early aughts but then when you start watching

with people that have other life experiences say women you start to get embarrassed by south park and you stop watching and that's what happened to me yeah that's actually maybe i'm like reflecting back it might have had something to do with when i stopped watching it as well because that is true it really sort of spoke to a very specific individual who happens to be me and six years ago i mean you know people were just getting okay listen listen i i'm not I'm not great on the time. Okay. I'm not great on remembering exactly what I stopped. So don't hold me to that.

Six years ago, I've been seeing Chris was like, you know what? All this shit where they're talking about women and people of color and I'm done with this shit. Yeah. No, I, I have the same deal of, of growing up. Like you're, it was like, you grow up as a simpsons kid and then you grow up into like oh now i simpsons is dirty enough for me these south park guys are swearing like i i watched it when it first debuted too when i was like 14 uh and so yeah i i was a day one viewer and i watched it as i grew into adulthood and i think it was

oh six or oh seven and then oh eight was a big moment for me we actually this is on our mind because we also uh in the last month we were on the minion death cult podcast talking about the terrible 2008 episode they did about how the wga strike was bad and that striking stupid and you shouldn't do it and uh so when i was re-watching i was like oh yeah like that sucks like and i and then of course you know and i'm gay but i got to know other people too especially their trans episodes and i mean in 2008 i was like oh the friends pointed out to me like you know this is really fucked up right i was like yeah i guess you're right yeah that's the one that that's the one that sticks out of course the one they apologized for was the climate

change one was the man bear pig where they were sort of mocking the idea of climate change as I look outside in Vancouver and it's 29 degrees Celsius and no, no Celsius. You goon. I can verify that is hot. I'm learning Celsius. Yeah. Thank you, Bob. I appreciate that. But yeah, they, the trans one is really like to look back on it is like outrageously transphobic and just, just a ridiculous thing to be putting out into the mainstream um so yeah definitely when you look back on it there was a lot of stuff in there that was kind of like oh this is just like really sort of bad this is a bad perspective on the world that you're putting out there to young people i wasn't even like a regular watcher when they did that douche versus turd thing for the 2004 election i had already been like i don't not for woke reasons at all i probably was

the opposite where i was like this stuff is too woke for me i gotta move on to something else so we got some stuff uh i want to start real quick with something where i like to sometimes introduce like a video or audio element to the show and then maybe check it out throughout the episode. And I'm going to do that with this episode for everybody. So are we just to be clear, so are we going to be work? Are we going to focus in on people who are current and like still south park fans like i have a little bit of everything okay a little bit of everything so here we go sorry you're planning to check back in with this throughout the episode? Ryan is dancing to this right now.

Oh, you're right. Hit me, raise it, baby, stay with me I love it Lookin' intuition, play the cards with space Is it even a parody? Or is he just singing the original lyrics? Literally all the same lyrics And I think this was a rock band song too? Or Guitar Hero?

It got put in one of those two games That's where I heard it the most Embarrassingly, this is how I first heard the song Pelterface It was the Cartman version via video game oh not the first time you heard the first way you heard the Cartman version the actual just

any version of the song yeah then I was like oh they said look I'm not plugged into pop music and this was over a decade ago even then I was like oh this Lady Gaga person sounds good then i listened to actual uh popular songs of hers but yes yeah i've been looking at comments for this throughout i i'm just curious so so that it sounds like it's there's a real voice it's like

whatever trey whatever you know doing the voice right so did they actually record this then for was it for an episode or what was the purpose of this record this then? Was it for an episode or what was the purpose of this? And after he's been hooked up play the one that's on his heart Oh, oh Alright, so here's a comment

Brian, can you answer the question please? I think that Cartman sang a little bit of this on an episode around that time and then it was so popular that they just released this as a single or just put it online or whatever it's a full song and it's the real yeah it's it's trey parker doing it and he sang the full thing and everything yeah yeah this is it was in is in the episode about whale wars like like uh where uh stan joins a group to stop whale fishing like

it's about that uh and it's I probably had tuned out by then. Cause I haven't watched for a very long time, way more than six years. 2017. He's been completely out on it. He's like, this is too problematic for me in 2022 when he quit watching it. So one of the comments on this video is from Val and he says,

um so one of the comments on this video is uh from val and he says uh the fact that there was no auto-tune involved in this is just so amazing it brings me to tears help the fact that it was created 12 years ago and is just getting popular and then he replied and he said he edited it and he said help i literally just joined the south park. Please don't go rough on me. They can be a little tough, the community. And I just want to clarify, Val obviously can be short for Valerie and could be a woman's name. But Brian, being such a wrestling fan, he hears Val and he just thinks Val Venus. I don't think of Val Venus. He's a real bad guy this week. A thing of a jig said, honestly, I used to be really into emo and struggled with expressing my

emotions in a healthy way but then i stumbled upon eric cartman's rendition of poker face on youtube and it completely changed my life the song's upbeat tempo and humorous lyrics made me feel more light-hearted and carefree and i found myself singing along and dancing to the music it was like a weight had been lifted off of my shoulders and I started to feel more positive about life. I can honestly say that Poker Face helped me stop being so emo and start enjoying life, which we just finished the Chive guys, where they also call things emo.

So the South Park guys still calling things emo and saying that's bad. Well, do you fellas remember? There's an episode about emo people right in south park the goths or yeah it was goth it was goth more than emo you're right because i was gonna say if if they this person might have might have had a rude awakening all of a sudden they became a fan and so they go back and find a damn episode where they're getting skewered themselves i mean that's tough when it turns back on you, you know?

Here's another comment. Remember, they could have only done a quick five-second cover for the episode, but Trey Parker wanted to record a full version. Not the hero we deserve, but the one we needed. Oh, boy. So we mix in a Dark Knight quote with that. My my experience if you look up any popular song on youtube you'll see in the comments the most depressing and confessional things you've ever read regardless of the song like if you look up walking on sunshine you'll see a two paragraph

comment about how a guy buried his daughter last week and this is their favorite song together i wonder if that's copy past this stuff like honestly like like it it i see it so much too i've noticed that and you'll sometimes you'll see the same comments on more than one like the same comment on more than one video and i wonder if it's i don't understand it but it is definitely a thing like i remember on willie nelson's uh always on my mind and there's this comment that sticks out like i i sang this song into my wife's ear as she was dying like you know on and it just has so it's like the number one comment i think people just maybe do it for engagement they just know

that gets engagement or whatever i don't know it's fucking bizarre i i mean i like that quote of the kid with it that one person who sounded uh like a very young person saying like oh i used to be emo meaning like gay i used to like feel gay emotions but finally finally this cartman song let me realize like i could have fun with like you know not just feeling sad like thanks and also like i would say when i was like a new metal guy it really was sort of almost like against the rules for there to be funny songs like i don't think i like a funny song until i was way older and i still don't know what i now i'm like saying it i'm like i can't even think

of a funny song so maybe i still don't like funny songs i also when they they compliment him for like oh there's no uh you know auto tuning like no there is like yes you if you watch them making the south park trey parker can do like the cartman voice but it is heavily treated and the older he gets the more it's treated like this this is an electronically altered song yeah just not in the way you're thinking of in that classic like where it's like doing the voice thing but also there can be subtle auto-tuning where it's not so obvious like that over auto-tuning thing that happens in popular music and hip-hop and stuff it's like when you crank it all the way up but you're right i mean he's definitely changing his voice around he's doing yeah he's not doing this naturally into

a microphone chris i hear you can do a cartman maybe they should hire you yeah so yeah i can't obviously where's carbon i've ever heard in my life i mean like i just hearing cartman's voice applied to something else does not bring many joy because this is the voice you and all of your friends did for about five to seven years when south park was new and you're sick of hearing it and i mean maybe in the show seeing Cartman do the song for a little bit is a novelty. It's like low-hanging fruit, but like, ha ha, he's a little fat kid singing Poker Face. He looks much different than Lady Gaga, if you've noticed. But then extrapolating that into an entire song, I don't understand,

especially because I assume you're not looking at Cartman while he's singing it, or maybe you have a picture of him You take out while the song is playing. I Mean it has the picture up right now on YouTube. So if you do watch the video, maybe you are looking into his face but yeah, it seems to me like This sort of this is what makes you a South Park guy the people who are listening to this song Actually enjoying it for fun, like just having it. That's where you're just like switch over from just being like a viewer of the show into being a full member of the South Park guys.

Well, another place that you can find plenty of South Park guys is is Reddit are South Park. You don't say is where I went. I decided to take a look at season 26 Master Discussion Thread. Thought we would check in to see how things are going. What kind of stuff are they saying? Because, of course, the shows turned into really political shows where we discuss. They're taking on the hot button issues. Are they doing the whole culture war stuff?

Are they talking about that? I'm not sure, actually. i should have watched a couple episodes but you know i know they did a lot of covid stuff yeah i watched a couple of their covid ones i checked in last year and they they definitely are still like the a big thing for south park politically is they don't want to be seen as taking either side which is not true i mean they they're they're they're libertarians they're like yeah it's that's what they are like and that leads to some conservative views and some definition liberal views but i think that their recent covet ones are more just like aren't we sick of covet and also don't we want to get high like that's a bit isn't getting old to be be randy the real change in the show is that they all aged into the age of stan's dad and that's why

stan's dad's randy is like a major character in the show like he has more lines than the kids in some episodes i'm looking in this season has six episodes it's like well let me tell you something twice is right said six episodes is bs no matter how good they are i get trey and matt have no reason to care about that easier work for the same or more pay but come on man six episodes is so little for a season especially an animated show that's known for its ability to make episodes quickly and then cs mastermind says i mean if the alternative is zero episodes then i'm happy they're still doing them with that said it does leave you itching for more and then kind tourists popped in and said you know matt stone and trey parker are stressed as fuck man they've been working for comedy central since 1997 so i kind of like why are they why are they

stressed because they work for a tv a company like everybody works for a lot of people work for a company and i guess like a lot of people are stressed but like how do we know that they're more stressed than other people also they're worth like nearly a billion dollars each like i don't think they're that i think every eight years they sell south park again to something else for like 400 million dollars yeah that's why i thought they had some like yeah their new contract that's why they're able to do like the six episodes or whatever they just sort of dictate their contract now and yeah it doesn't doesn't seem like they have i don't know listen i don't want to say just because you have money and all that stuff that you're not stressed but it seems

to me like they would have a pretty stress-free life yeah well it's an amazing scam they got going right now where they like double sold south park for hundreds of millions like so they they sold south park episodes to warner brothers to be on hbo max and that includes any new episodes they make and they sold that for like 500 million dollars and then they make a deal with paramount for their streaming service for like 900 million dollars to make movies but then when they release the movies then they cut them into like three episodes and then they give them to warner brothers like no these are the episodes we didn't make new episodes these these are the episodes like that seems like it's got to be illegal but hey kudos to them now we'll see how it works out yeah it's got to be illegal, but hey, kudos to them. It's loaded, of course, now. We'll see how it works out.

It's interesting you said that because Paws Impossible said they're still doing the same amount of work as a normal season with the Paramount Plus specials. Although I guess then you could argue that they're selling out in a way. Yeah, they have just now sold out. sold out like on day one like within the first year of south park it was every piece of merchandise you could get south park characters on existed like the day one from day one yeah immediately like the first episode kenny died and they made a shirt with like the many deaths of kenny and it was just one death and then they just kept adding deaths every episode and making new shirts it was like truly when you went like hot topic or whatever and like stores like that it was just there was times when it was only south park merchandise it was just like it dominated every fucking kid in school was wearing a fucking south park shirt like it was ridiculous it was

that simpsons model because i was you know like 12 or whatever when the younger than 12 i was probably in like fourth grade when the simpsons started and like like the the after the first like five episodes it's just you go into a store and there's a simpsons section of t-shirts everywhere and and south park was sort of the next thing that was able to pull that off like like i you know uh if you watch old monday night raw and nitro from that era well stick with raw stick with raw it's it's better product over all the matches and stuff and of course it was attitude era so i had a little bit of nonsense but still better than wcw okay but no brian you say not not to make this about wrestling but there were characters on wwf back then on raw who it

was the oddities their characters were i wear a south park shirt to the ring and have a cartman doll like that they didn't have an extra character like they just wave around a Cartman doll like that. They didn't have an extra character. Like they just wave around a Cartman doll. They're like, yeah, see, I'm a fat guy like Cartman. Like, yeah, I remember that. So some more commentary on a new season comes from Extreme 3XO, whose Reddit avatar is wearing a fedora. So that's a lot. Did anybody else notice that there was barely

any interaction between kyle stan cartman and kenny even when stan can invite anybody over he invites token um okay oh no don't tell me i got woke what the hell inviting token over how dare they it's hard to get the stars their schedules are so yeah you think about cartman's like touring he's got his like music stuff that he's doing and like yeah they're busy it's like they're big stars now it's a good point it's weird to expect any consistency from the characters in south Park if you're a fan, because the characters are just whatever is annoying two billionaires this week. That's what their characters are. Yeah.

That's very true. Kyler says, right, and how Stan was jealous about Kyle hanging out with Token in one episode, but then the next day barely talked to Kyle and didn't even care that Kyle couldn't play with him. Okay. but then the next day barely talked to kyle and didn't even care that kyle couldn't play with him okay well it's the this deep into south park they're worried about the continuity of these characters like they've there's no consider it's they've exploded the like it's season five they had jokes of like yeah well you care if this character came back now like yeah kenny's alive again we killed him off and now he's back like you know yeah yeah digging into it like it's a soap opera and like just getting really fully invested in the characters and their relationships to each other is fucking demented well roar xd

11 11 said was a fan of the new season but frankly can't believe we only get six episodes a season now i calculated how many episodes we will be getting until they end the show, and we will only get 24 new episodes. Well, how'd you do those calculations? You must have brought the calculator out for that one. You know, I'm on the side of this Redditor. I think they should be working harder. I think Trey and Matt are anti-union because they spend about a week per year writing the seasons.

And that's it. And then record it and head out there. The real movie they're working on or whatever. I absolutely don't disagree that. But I just I think at this point, the show shouldn't even be going on anymore. And that's the way they feel like they don't even really want to be doing it anymore, you know.

So they're just collecting a bunch of money um which is really shitty in its own right but yeah i i do agree that six episodes for the north american model is extremely low and if i were a fan of a show and it all of a sudden went from 20 to that or whatever i would be pissed off as well well sam bob said has it been confirmed that they're ending the show at a certain point are you assuming it doesn't get renewed again and remarkable natural 22 said that has been confirmed can't do these forever they'll be close to 60 years old when 2027 the end of their current contract comes around if they renew even then i'll be damn well impressed and pleased so i i mean yeah they're gonna keep doing it i mean i don't if they would have been satisfied with just being very rich they would have stopped like 15 years ago they

were already very very rich then and though i mean i do know that like trey parker's gone through a couple divorces so maybe that's the pushing him to earn extra money these days i don't know it's cool that the most divorced show in the world has one of the hosts gone through a bunch of divorces so um you think the show is for people who are divorced i think a lot of the people that watch the show are divorced okay i won't argue with you i don. I don't have the data. Next Reddit post said, why does Kyle continue to give in to Cartman? What are you talking about, dude? Man, look for yourself, Kyle.

Come on. It's been established why Cartman needs Kyle. Although hating him, a comment I found on a YouTube video summarizes this pretty thoroughly. Yeah, I think it's pretty clear why Cartman needs Kyle in his life. Cartman adores to hate Kyle, and without Kyle in his life to hate and despise, to try and kick down and destroy. He finds his life emptier. He needs Kyle, and without Kyle, his life isn't as complete. Now, we're going to go back in. This is understood pretty unanimously due to episodes such as Smuggler. But what this doesn't explain is why Kyle continuously puts up with it. He even said it himself with episodes like the death of Eric Cartman that he thrives on negative attention.

So why does Kyle continue to react? In red hot Catholic love, Kyle chooses not to react and instead congratulate cartman on winning their bet instantly making his rival bored so if kyle clearly has an understanding about what his rival thrives off of wouldn't he try not to react in order to stop the constant cycle it's almost like it's a that's a big dynamic on the show and the show's meant for entertainment and that's where they get a lot of their jokes from and it's not any deeper than that i don't know no it is deeper okay there's gotta be something there's a real lack of media literacy if you think that they sit down and say what would kyle really they're just treating it like something it is absolutely not you know and like you see people

doing this with television but it makes a little more sense when you're talking about like some whatever some drama or you know like something with these intricate character relationships and stuff but for something this surface level it's seems really weird to be talking about it like that yeah and i mean we cover the simpsons and characterization will change just for the sake of a joke but we can actually describe like who bart is a new homer is and characteristics with stan and kyle and kenny they don't really have personalities or interests or characteristics they're just vessels for whatever is bothering the two billionaires yeah totally simpsons to me is is different it falls in the cut yeah those are well flushed out characters and they have relationships that have been established and it makes more sense to me in that in that case yeah usually stan and kyle especially are just

like they're they're self-inserts like all of the friggin i mean it's why there's a million there were a million web comics and online like uh cartoons that all copied south park and then and the central two guys were two cool dudes that were more or less the guys who created it. One or two cool dudes. Because they're like, well, we're the coolest, smartest guys around. We're just like Stan and Kyle getting above it all and telling people like, hey, you're all crazy. But if Kyle actually is a character, then if you want to get logical about it,

like, yeah, why kyle go on a trip with santa claus and jesus with carmen a guy he hates he should have gotten out of santa claus's sleigh right then and knock on to iraq to kill the killer terrorists yeah that's a good point you army head in reddit south park said for those that prefer South Park over Family Guy, what do you think it is that makes South Park better? And he says, for me, it's that, in my opinion, the jokes are more clever and more consistently funny. Also, I like that South Park never pulls any punches and doesn't pick and choose who they target. Nothing is off limits to them. Well, I mean, I don't listen. I don't I don't hate Family Guy either. I'm not like a Family Guy hater. I don't watch it don't i don't hate family guy either i'm not like a family guy

hater i don't watch it anymore really but i i definitely laughed at it and thought there was funny jokes in it but they don't really they talk about a bunch of bullshit too like you know they do the same thing i feel like maybe they don't go as in depth with it but they do jokes that are inappropriate and fucking unfunny in the same sort of way you know i mean basically this person is saying well i i find i like it because i think it's funnier and better so thanks man well i mean they definitely are into the marketing of south park goes there where other places don't like yeah you're right they do market it that way 112 ocean ab says i like family guy but have watched more south park now here's an interesting considering what we just talked about a minute ago i'd say a reason why the writing is

better in south park is because the jokes are unique to each character their personality and their history within the show no as opposed to family guy which i think a lot of the jokes could have just been said by any character well that's what you're talking about the cutaways he said they're talking about the cutaways on family guy yeah it's just a bunch of like little sketches that that i i suppose is somewhat true but well these i like i gotta say a lot of these people are just they're just regurgitating the opinion they heard on south park about family guy the family guy is the it's the show where manatees ride it by pushing ball, you know, the joke balls around like that.

Totally. They're them saying it's interchangeable. They're just saying the opinion South Park gave them on what Family Guy is. Like, Oh yeah. I saw a lot of manatee and I really couldn't figure out what it was. But people are just like, it's the manatees.

It's the manatees. Cause there is a bot every one week or two there's an argument about family guy on the south park forum god it's been 15 years since i think it's been 17 years i think it was 2006 and i don't think uh the creators were that invested in hitting family guy they're just annoyed with being compared to family guy so they just got their aggression out. I think they immediately moved on, but these battles are still happening online. The discussion is still happening. That is awesome

when they're just keeping this battle going that just meant nothing to the person who started it. Oh, no. I watched Seth MacFarlane's rebuttal to Family Guy. It's on YouTube.

It's like a crudely drawn sort of animation where I think it's basically he's saying that South Park is gay, if I'm not mistaken. It's actually him saying it? Seth MacFarlane doing a thing. Constant Register 70 said, well, for me. Wait, isn't he kind of like sort of gay? Well, he likes gay things. Yeah, but so do Matt and Trey. They're all writing musicals together.

To my knowledge, everyone is a heterosexual man who's only been with women. But yes, they like culturally gay things. Yeah, it just seems like an odd insult for him to be making. I don't know. Well, ConstantRegister7, he says, well, for me, Family Guy hasn't been remotely funny past season seven. And even before that, the gaffes were low-hanging.

It didn't require much thought other than insert random gag here compared to south park being more witty in their humor just the terminology they're using it's just like you know like more witty in their humor it's just they don't really they're just saying i think it's funnier that's all they have to say and their whole argument could be done well it's on the south park reddit because they think it's funny yes exactly south park specializes in what i call funny humor whereas these other shows are doing this stuff that it's just like not funny humor whatever i

don't really understand why they're doing that well i like this like compared to south park being more witty in their humor making us a view as viewers have to think about what we just heard yes the later season of south park have been going downhill but the complexity of the jokes still remain no okay i have like two big problems that one we again we just re-watched some uh just a 14 year old episode so a recent episode but bob identified this real thing with south park which is every most episodes are they find one joke and then which is kind of clever and so in in some cases but they then beat it to death like and shove your face like yeah this we came up with this one joke here it is the seventh

time in the episode like that i i wouldn't call that like witty or complex and then yeah when you turn the show off then you hear people outside doing the one joke they heard in the episode sorry chris no no you're you're right you get to hear it over and over again but i'm just thinking is it maybe the reason they do that is because the humor is so complex that you need to hear the joke seven times to fully wrap your head around what they're saying well i like the idea that it's clever complex and witty and like i said one of the episodes i remember vividly is douche versus turd as you understand what that that's actually about the election that is i know that's the part you might not be understanding is the underlying kind of thing there is it's like well both of the candidates

are bad you know what i mean which is like i'd never thought of that really before i saw that the one we just saw it's like um canada on strike and uh about eight minutes of the episode is we took your favorite memes from 2008 and we're just going to do them with south park animation you're going to see the chocolate rain guy and the the startled groundhog and the star wars kid we're just going to do that and they're all going to shoot each other yeah and the child and tase on day of course he pulls out a gun and goes like chocolate pain bitch and then shoot somebody very clever i mean that's witty and clever and it really does make me think about like you know what if tase on day shot people it takes a lot of cleverness to not pay any of those people also that too yeah it's i mean that

is the cleverest move of all yeah i didn't find that episode funny it was the one episode i couldn't laugh at because they were making fun of canada which of course is where i'm from and it didn't really hit for me you know ever heard of terrence and philip oh yeah i have we've all heard about them in canada and we don't like it it's like they did uncle fucker remember that yeah that's a good song oh great you know i saw south park movie in in the theater on opening night and uh i was with my wife and she didn't want to go to the movies for like another 10 years it's still good right people were like standing up and giving standing ovations to the fucking to like the people the songs so they do a song and when the song is over

everybody's standing up and hooting and hollering i mean that's a cool vibe as a movie guy i will say that is cool like to be in a theater where people are super into a movie is is really wonderful i loved the movie but again i was a massive fan of the show it was the best show in the world to me and i was a teenager when the movie came out but i do remember thinking the movie was just fantastic well i saw this post and i only got one answer to this um and the question is what episodes have actually offended you and he says i'm from san francisco and still found smug alert pretty funny which i have no idea what smug alert is oh i do it's the one where they would fart into a glass and then they would taste or smell their own farts right that's the episode yeah i don't know that's the cars powered by smugness right yeah it's the the buying a hybrid car made you incredibly smug and the

smugness of it was actually a bigger threat to climate than uh than anything uh than than burning fossil fuels so they were they were heavy against the idea of climate change right extremely i feel like there's five episodes on that before the apology yeah yeah that's really cool that is like such a cool thing to put into your show just like for no reason there's no need to do it it's just like let's get that out there to an entire generation of people and then just be so catastrophically wrong about it uh demonstratively so years later and then just sort of say hey sorry about that well chris you listened to opie and anth too. And if you'll remember, Bill Burr got a Prius. Yeah.

And they spend so much. They spend hours of radio making fun of him for having a Prius. Yeah, they didn't do that. They weren't the best as far as how they came down on issues. I was just listening to in my wrestling. I'm listening to a lot of wrestling audio now and i found a clip of uh superfly jimmy snooka on uh opie and anthony where they were asking him about the murder that he presumably committed and uh it was just kind of they just they didn't really uh approach the subject in the in the best way i feel like

you know didn't honor nancy argentino no they kind of just sort of asked him about it and then believed what he said and it was really uncomfortable because in the story when he's telling it you can sort of tell that he's lying as he's telling the story well bum bum buh said my girl gets pretty weird out when the sarcastic ball episode comes on which by the way means that he watches the episodes over and over yeah how often does it come on and butter starts giving everyone his cum as a sports drink i think it's hilarious but i can see where she's coming from i do find it strange that randy is the only one who recognizes what it is ah so that's an interesting they've noticed

something that possibly randy knows the taste of cum so that's kind of a cool little thing to think about it logically thinking about it what does that say about his character that he recognizes cum yeah has he tasted his own has he experimented like is he is he bisexual what are we dealing with here that's cool i like to look into that type of stuff now that is, that's the type of episode that doesn't offend me. That's funny to me. Okay. Here's a little bit. I promised I'd do

a little more of this. I'll get him high Show him what I got Can't read that, can't read that No, he can't read my poker face She's got me like nobody So, a little bit more of that, we got to the chorus here. Yeah, that's good.

Is that 21 million views I see on that? Yes, probably. I would guess 21 million views. I wonder what the official Spotify stats are for this. Oh, God, yeah. That is 465,000 upvotes for this. I mean, people love this. No downvotes.

Well, it doesn't show downvotes anymore we should report a slammer jam though yeah well slammer jam's doing really well he's he's probably making a ton of money off of this he recorded it digitally using rock bam for xbox 360 so yes so there you go okay that's how got the, I hope he didn't miss any notes. We could not be getting the full version of this. Yeah. Yeah. I, yeah,

that's true. I wonder, could, I don't know. Um, so we're moving on now to the South park forum on the comedy central website, which still runs is still relatively active. That's gotta be like 25 years old now i'm pretty shocked that

a corporation would keep that running yeah for this long yeah that seems very odd i guess message boards like that still exist but it just feels like with social media and the way stuff works now that that's all kind of been swallowed up you know these guys are friends though you know like like the forum i know some people that still go to some forums because they're just like well i mean i'm there's a we know each other and it's like a thing where all these people hang out but yeah mostly doing this show i've found that like most forums are basically dead and this one was very active and I was pretty surprised um the first post I saw on there is pinned and it says stop asking about sending ideas and specs Matt and Trey and uh a

guy a guy commented back and said hi I did notice the fanfic sub form and did consider posting this there. But I wasn't sure it was the best place as it seemed mostly for small ideas and short stories. I've written a full blown episode in a proper screenwriting format and wondered if I could send it to the writers of the show. Anyone know how I could go about doing this? Cheers, Kingers. And he says, P.S., the episode is titled The Phony High Def Windshield. And it's a parody of the recent explosion of high definition tv and content uh so okay that could be funny

i mean i'm just thinking about it in my head now it's a cartman you know what i mean doing the classic cartman stuff um but wasn't that post about not asking for that well that guy's like it doesn't apply to me like yeah my idea is so brilliant they uh they have to remember though that matt and trey have clocked out for the year this isn't this idea is not hanging the airwaves until april of 2024 it may be at a date the idea of making fun of hd programming yeah that seems very relevant right now, you know? And so somebody replied to this and said, uh, there are fan fix that are over 100,000 words.

It's not just short stories. Although many of the stories that are put up are short and crappy. And then he says, Matt and Trey don't accept fan written material, which makes perfect sense. But I don't think that a fan would understand why like they're just like you know they'll take any good ideas but it's like there's like a legal aspect to that like no show does right like maybe maybe like an off but like that's not a thing that

happens where you just like send in a spec script fan fiction to a show and then they make it into a real episode i thought most people understand that's not how tv shows work well it's about like legal exposure like if you get if they can provably say you read this and then they ever make an episode that is similar to the thing you sent them and they didn't pay you that's like a lawsuit right there and they'd have they'd have thousands of those every day like yeah yeah it feels like a mistake that the official forums have a poster ideas here for episode space for the fan right you can post it as fanfic and if it's good you can gain quite a bit of respect from myself and most of the other fan fiction writers listen you, you're not going to get that big contract you're looking for,

but you're going to get the respect from Bam Bam Bobo, you know, or whatever the fuck the guy's name is. I like the idea that it's like, you're not going to make money or a contract, and the episode's never going to see, like, the light of day. Matt and Trey will never see it, but you can get a lot of respect from me and the other fan fiction writers yeah that's what i mean i i joke because that's so ludicrous

to me but i mean i guess that probably has quite a bit of worth to some of these people that the respect of their peers on the on the forum i don't know how would craig and tweak feel about adopting kids as adults okay i'm sorry so this is a thing they did uh in the last like five to ten years where basically that this was them engaging uh man trey engaging with their fandom where they saw that there was some element of the fandom and in general fanfic, no matter the community, will couple together characters often in same-sex pairings that to regular viewers like this doesn't make any sense to me. And so the characters of Tweak and Craig were getting partnered by fans. And again, these are 10-year-old boys who are like making out um but uh in people's fanfic but then man and trey were like oh well then we'll make them a canonical couple

in the show and so now it sounds like in the in the fandom there some people are extrapolating that they grow up together and adopt children together as well stay together that's quite a story to be starting a relationship when you're 10 and stay together, you know, to the point where you're starting a family, I would say kudos on that, but which one's Craig again?

I don't, I don't remember. I remember he has no character. He's the guy who gives people the finger. That's what I thought. He flips people off. Yeah, that's okay.

No fucking idea. He's so far away. So they're in a relationship now on the show? They are boyfriends on the show. I don't know who Tweek is either, though. He's the coffee kid. Yeah, he's the one who's always tweaking out, you know? But, like, I don't know.

You don't really have boyfriend and girlfriend when you're 10 years old, do you? That's a good point. You don't really have boyfriend and girlfriend when you're 10 years old do you that's a good point like there's no there's no you don't really have relationships in that way at least i don't remember that being the case so it just seems to be kind of silly well this this actually this post didn't get any replies which i think is really funny since they're two guys who love each other very much i wonder how either partner would feel about taking care of and raising children. Since depending on whether medicine has developed far enough

in either post-COVID timeline that makes it possible for them or not, would they be willing to adopt a child as a Tucker, Tweek, and Tweek Tucker, C-B-I-L-D? Come to think of it, if they do become hubbies, how are they going to decide who gets what last name? So you're just talking about anything in a same-sex relationship like this doesn't this isn't unique to craig and tweak you're just now talking about it's like get a kid i don't get

yeah wait a second how do they get a kid and what about their last days like all this stuff that's already been dealt with Like in 1992 But society has already decided on that And he goes Do they keep the same last names they were born with? Sometimes It's kind of similar to in a same-sex relationship Where sometimes they keep their same last names

And sometimes, you know, it's sort of case by case The the wildest thing about this guys is that it's from may 26th of 2023 oh my god it seems like this person just has general questions about gay people yeah yeah to address you can find these answers now you know what i mean it's it's out there now you can find these answers it totally feels like nobody has asked like who gets to be the husband in i i mean i haven't heard somebody ask that in so fucking long but this girl man yeah that can yeah yeah who's right who wears the dress at the wedding like that was a thing you would say in the late 90s before anybody fucking understood anything like it's not something you say may 26 2023 a memorial day weekend questions about gay couples how did two guys like adopt a kid i'm curious uh but it's specifically these two fictional ones like you know yeah

these two ones who are kids also yeah when they're adults what would they do so the same guy on on april 23rd said who's gonna live in stan's old house now that stan and his family are still on that stupid pot farm um so well is randy like into pot now oh boy yeah yeah this feels like just more questions about the world like how how do you sell a house yeah so what happens like you have to get a real estate agent or what are we talking i want to meet the notary how much is a cartoon house cost oh Oh, man. I mean, it's a two-story place in Colorado. It doesn't look cheap.

No. Because I'm so fucking sick of Tegrity Farms, which I do know is the pot farm. No, people are really tired of that. I know that in the fandom. Because they made it a joke. In the COVID special I did watch uh the most recent south park thing i watched uh it was the they were joking about how much fans hate the pot

farm storylines which is called integrity because it's like america lost its integrity and they're trying to find a little bit of integrity left like it it's an incredibly long and boring um metaphor because now they're doing all these arcs right long arcs season-long storylines yeah so and are they are they maybe into so they presumably are are weed smokers and they're older i don't know don't you think they probably are i mean didn't they they took acid that one time right and showed up to the oscars or whatever they wore the dresses yeah i mean they seem like recreational enough dudes but yeah i think they the more it got legal they well also though when they're as i recall in their pod episodes they were making fun of dudes who

were just like oh well now that it's legal i'm gonna have pot as my personality type guys yeah yeah well he goes and i i'm so sick of tegrity farms and i really want to know who's living in their former house now nobody is it just isn't being drawn like it's not things aren't happening when they're not on the screen it's just a show i want an episode about how their mail is forwarded when 24 came out and people were like are we gonna get to see people go to the bathroom yeah yeah today who's watering their plants i mean that's an issue i really want to know who's living in their former house now that the marsh family is trapped on a farm against their will with an a-hole who cares more about his weed farming fantasy than the happiness of his own wife and kids and their outright blatant desires to go back to living in their hole in a house seriously i think sharon should really go through with the divorce since randy clearly doesn't care about her or the kids anymore sharon you want to hey listen you you want to bed

down with someone who really cares about you like this guy wants to fuck sharon i think at the end of the day he deserves better than randy yeah you really value her doesn't even please her i bet well sharon should get custody of the kids and move back into their old house while Randy is stuck on the farm with only Tavoli as his other employee. Oh, Tavoli works there? Oh, for fuck's sake. Of course he does. Are you kidding me? They're still using the Tavoli character?

We podcast about the Simpsons and I think it's a valid question to ask. Alright, if Homer and the family move away, who's moving in? Because we know what the layout of the house is, what they're on then who are the neighbors are but with south park like what what neighborhood is stan in who are his neighbors what's the street name nobody knows these things it doesn't matter they didn't think about this stuff you know they had for the video games they had to or at least in video games they have like uh or

the rpg the role-playing game they did they did make a map of like well stan's house is on this street kenny's house is on that street i mean but that's for the video game i i highly doubt that that is uh transferable to the actual like yeah do we know their neighbors it would have to be like a situation yeah because on the simpsons it would be like hey you know we need to figure out what how flanders is going to interact with these new people there might be a part of an episode about that but yeah it wouldn't make any sense really on south part who cares well he also says uh but until matt and trey finally decide to end this overdone farm saga once and for all

i'd love to know who's living in their old house since cartman moved back into his home we get it man we fucking get it we know what you want okay it's not happening are the are those canadians that were living in cartman's house when the cartmans were living in the dick and bow's hot dog stand are they not living in stan's old house parentheses at least until integrity farm gets shut down and the previous status quo comes back in general so this guy's just sick of tegrity farms and what like if if the if the marsh family if stan's family isn't going to be back at their old house i at least want to see who's in that house so i don't have to see the pot farm stories anymore. Well, luckily, somebody did reply to this.

So triple multiplex said, I wonder if Sharon is still working at Tom's rhinoplasty. Right. Yes. Oh, yeah. That thing. Yeah. So, yeah, that that goes back to like season one where they just had the, you know, they had the Tom's rhinoplasty and they had a geologist in the show. And they decided after making up these one line characters, like, you know, that stands mom and dad.

Like, and so that just would be their jobs forever. Well, another guy, big will, who's a board moderator said, uh, I'm still waiting tegrity weed and or it's merch to be real so he's not tired of it he's sort of waiting honestly it would be so fucking cool to get the respect of big will like as a moderator fuck this guy is correctly identifying like celebrity pot strains are like that's a big money maker right now yeah i mean you go into a head shop or like dispensary and you'll see all like rick and morty bongs and things like that i'm sure somebody has just shoved weed in a tegrity farms package with randy on it right oh yeah money off of this probably a delta eight you know because that's like wild west

i mean towley has probably appeared on a million bonds at this point like now i gotta google towley oh no oh yeah i mean the amount of like yeah unlicensed towley marijuana merchandise that's popped up i i've definitely seen in vancouver they used to have like black market stuff it's illegal here but they used to have stuff that you could buy that was yeah rick and morty like nerd ropes and they were yeah so like and that was just like blatantly like they weren't you know they're not allowed to be doing that but they're just doing it anyway i i know jason muse has his own like vape brand of thc but i is it called snoogins i'm pretty sure it is probably is it's like called smoochy boochies or something like that isn't it oh okay celeb stoner in 2021 august 10th said that

there would be a uh integrity farms cannabis brand to be launched by south park team uh i don't know if it ever came out Or maybe not But there is that Okay, alright See, their Marketing team is on the ball then Because that's probably like 50 million dollars just sitting on the table Right there

And obviously they need all the money they can get Yeah Well, okay So this next one now this is a real problem i think and uh this is gonna spark some really good discussion such a good thing to say on a podcast it's great you're gonna go nuts it's to spark some really great discussion uh like tegrity farms weed you spark a ah very nice thank you uh well i know it's entirely possible that you so this guy wednesday february 8th is asking big will the moderator a question says, well, I know it's entirely possible that you have no power over this,

but I thought it was worth a try. The South Park Reddit and Discord are both censoring quotes directly from South Park, disallowing them from being posted. Half of them are barely offensive. Barely. Barely. They are offensive, but they're just barely offensive

if you have any power over these two platforms that are using the south park name i'd recommend a change in management i've heard others talk about the same topic being disallowed from posting south park memes or quotes from south park it's completely ironic considering the past seasons have all been mocking pc and cancel culture i remember south park making the episode where they swear like over 300 times just because the media was currently annoyed at people swearing and shows that was so badass that was like that was like my fucking like the greatest moment of my life like i was like they swore so many times it was like every and they and they actually showed you how many times they were swearing

on the screen was the shit counter yeah yeah oh that was so cool well i remember when trey and matt went into the oscars on dresses in dresses on acid yeah over 20 years ago just talked about that it's cool that you can remember that i can too but it was a long time ago my point being that the creators of south park would not approve and this goes against the south park brand i am immensely disappointed i have watched every episode multiple times just bought the second game about to start the 26th season and yet after seeing this which directly contradicts what i respected about south park part of me doesn't want to continue watching so some of the bourbon trail guys yeah some some of these guys like so they're just saying that basically some

of the stuff on the show is so offensive that it's getting moderated on these message boards what yeah it's like there are is when you started saying is i i could instantly think of like a dozen quotes from the show that involve if you were to quote accurately involve saying like a dozen quotes from the show that involve if you were to quote accurately involves saying like a a hard slur or just like yeah a lot of words that are going to be banned on discord or reddit like i'm on discord or reddit with their instruments i don't think you can check a box that says i'm just quoting south park when i call somebody the f slur for a gay person i saw that play out in real life actually i was at a bar like maybe five years ago one of the bartenders dropped the glass or dropped the bottle and he picked it up and then to the non-white other

bartender he says i cut you i cut you and she was extremely offended and he tried to argue his way out of it by saying he was quoting Family Guy. And I'm pretty sure I didn't see that bartender again at that bar. But I saw a very tense 10-minute discussion about how he was quoting Family Guy and her saying how that didn't matter. So, yes, out of context, quoting things can be hate speech. Yes, of course. And arguably in context for some of this stuff it was still hate speech anyways but yeah right like especially when you remove the context of it and you have no idea of the whole episode surrounding it the point they're trying to make you know rightly or wrongly or effectively

or not effectively and then you're just saying that thing like yeah that's the way the internet works you got you got to understand that surely well if any anybody who's done like a long-term creative project in their early days have said stuff that they're ashamed of i'm sure not not me not me not me no no yeah all the stuff that i said i stand behind 100 and there's no characters on my channel that i don't do anymore that i used to do even five years ago that are not really appropriate to do well he goes as stated before i don't know if you have power over these two platforms if you do i would recommend a management change if you don't i would make an official version of these platforms which maintains the classic south park perspective i am not the first

to be annoyed i first discovered this on a post elsewhere so so he certainly is not the first to be annoyed I first discovered this on a post elsewhere he certainly is not the first to be annoyed about this that I'm sure of I mean there are just conservative social media platforms because as we discussed with they came to the conclusion that all South Park does is just they make conservative memes now

and that's all you'll see when you'll see a conservative reply to something I think I even saw they took our jobs today in response to something the the the gif of that from south park so like whatever those are like telegram is that one of them like there's like at least five of them like that are popular in quotes yeah just take it to the daily wire boards where you can just like say this stuff like take it to rumble rumble you can do it all you want on rumble yeah it's it's interesting that that he thinks big will like i don't bit listen big well big will is a big cheese no doubt you know he's a moderator but like the idea that

he has he has hiring and firing power at these you know for these like large like he's talking about reddit and discord yeah like i don't know i think he's maybe the language he's using is a little confusing but yeah i don't think he big will can fire anybody at discord yeah i don't think big will can fire anybody at the comedy central south park forum no i don't think so i don't think he has that yeah it's a volunteer position there's absolutely no way this uh he's in contact with anybody no he's never met matt or trey and they really don't even know the forum exists is is my no i would think man trey would tell mike let's

get way get the fuck off the discord then like i don't know yeah i don't know like go fucking do something else like i mean what we do is uh go on million dollar vacations to get yeah I don't know. Go fucking do something else. What we do is go on million-dollar vacations. Why don't you go to an all-inclusive or an island that you've purchased and that you own if you just want to get away? That's what I would do. Well, here's a quick pitch from Milkweed66. Once in a while, my mind wanders to ideas for movies, and I came up with an idea tailor-made for matt and trey

dante's inferno dante well that's already it's already a good idea dante was indirectly taking shots at the a-holes of his day somebody should have done this already but i don't think anyone has and it's got matt and trey written all over it well wait what's the idea inferno they do a new dante's inferno but i mean like a movie but that is the show anyway it's just yeah they make fun of the people they don't like and they've there have been eight million episodes of them going to hell in the show that's in the fucking movie like yeah i don't think this is what's that person's name who posted that milkweed 66 sorry milkweed 66 i'm gonna go ahead and say

that's a bad idea that you've come up with yeah so it's not milkweed 69 i'm guessing they were born in 66 so this is someone in their mid-50s just spitballing the next one i saw was um from muso miata and he said i think they made a mistake when scott tenorman was still butthurt in 201 so we know scott and cartman had a falling out in season five scott did some things cartman did some things it got pretty nasty okay so that's kind of funny they're kind of goofing because obviously cartman made him eat his own parents right i did not know that yeah that's that's what cartman did so this guy's kind of being a little silly when they say hey you did some things he did some things now when was this posted this posted like 2004 or something like that uh February 4th, 2023 at 6.

Okay. 4 p.m. Hey, cool. And he goes, and then in season nine, when Cartman thought he was a ghost, he decided to make everything right, and Scott forgave him. It's over. Scott's happy. Cartman's happy.

So why was Scott butthurt in season 14? There had to be no interaction between him and Cartman since season nine. So why did there have to be no interaction between him and Cartman since season nine. So why did there have to be like, well, it was like a background joke in one episode of them making up. And then, and then later when they get to the 200th episode, they decide,

man, we wanted to, we want him to still want revenge on Cartman. That's all for though. I mean, the 200th episode doesn't even exist anymore because they, it was one where they wanted to do. It was them back on their sawhorse of being mad that they can't show

Muhammad on the show. And, uh, it was a whole thing. It got censored by comedy central, which obviously like, uh, that I'm sure there were many posts about that on this forum as well.

Back then. Oh, and maybe still to this day, from what we're reading, there might be still people posting about it. Well, luckily, he got an answer from Big Will. Hey, Big Will's the Big Willie. And he said, Cartman did want to make things right again, so he handed out baskets to everyone he wronged. Scott was at the cemetery sobbing over his parents' death when Cartman and Butters gave him a basket. This doesn't mean Scott forgave him. It means he appreciated the thought, but probably thought about it later and figured out that it's fucked up the boy who had his

parents killed and made into chili all of a sudden gives him a basket. What kind of sick fuck does that? It makes sense that Scott is still butthurt in 201. The other thing that's wrong in that scene is the graves. If Scott's parents were made into chili, there would be no bones to bury. You can bury. You can still just. They often do that. They still have a headstone, but there's not a body. These are extremely literal people.

I mean, I think Cartman must have dressed the parents like a deer he hung them from a tree and skinned them yeah there was enough to bury yes yeah that also by the way bringing up episode unearthed another memory of why i fell off watching south park of like bob was talking about earlier for once you interact with not other people different from you so i was working at a video store in berkeley california uh you know and that is it's a rather diverse area but we put on stuff on the tv and we put on south park episodes like you know what it's where it's the last hour it's 10 to 11 let's put on south park we put on that episode and there's a joke in the episode where uh carmen thinks he's dead and only butters can see him and then butter says oh don't you

think you're gonna go to hell and then carmen says uh butters i'm not going to hell i'm not black and that was one of those moments where if you're alone in your home watching it like that's one thing but uh people were like people just walked into the store who were not white and that line is said and that was the first time i was like oh this oh boy i'm embarrassed right now this this was a mistake yeah it's like maybe like people do change, you know, like like maybe sometimes people go a little more edgy or some people go a little lighter or whatever. But these guys, I mean, even Tram Matt, from what I'm hearing about the newer seasons, the more PC stuff, you know, is that like they are going back and like trying to fix some of the mistakes of the past which i think is cool like that actually makes them good i can't believe how literal these south park fans are from 2011 brendel asked who is the main character of south park ah this is the age-old question this is the thing that many scholars have discussed at great length and i don't know that there's any consensus but it'll be interesting to hear what they say

well it's a he says it's a legitimate question it's out of two characters stan he seems to be the main guy most of the storylines involve stan probably Stan is the protagonist of the show. B, Cartman. He's clearly the crowd favorite, but is he the main character? Cartman is an antagonist. Can an antagonist be the main character? Or C, there's no main character. It's about the town and everyone

in it. So, that's the way it's set up. I think Cartman is the anti-hero it's like breaking bad exactly or the shield perhaps yes i like him no yeah anti-heroes yeah definitely no i mean will you know sorry yeah well big will answered oh good okay he's the guy it's always been cartman is what he said so i mean carmen's carmen's like a side guy up until i feel like in the third season that's when they make him the

main catalyst of both stories where cartman's like i have an idea for a boy band or i have an idea for this or that and he does it and everybody else just goes like oh i mean they're they have the most fun writing cartman not the guys who used to represent them as kids uh in stan and kyle yeah it's also a thing where it's like uh especially with the simpsons right like the first few seasons they seem to want to focus on bart like he was the sort of marketable character and now the show is basically about homer i always been the main guy i'd say since season season four yeah it's just i think it has to do with how the audience responds to it probably like you know they didn't they didn't

set out to have cartman be the main character but the audience responded so much better to him and enjoyed it more that i think that probably influenced them a little bit as well. Well, Raj Nika said, who is he said, I think that the main character in South Park is Stan Marsh. And then we get the next one. Cartman, definitely not Stan. Yeah, no, Stan's not the main guy like they I mean mean the last time it felt like stan was the main guy and it was when like they did an entire episode that people thought was the end of the series where stan like just becomes incredibly cynical and he's like yeah i don't care about this anymore

like this isn't funny he just he basically quits the show but then they come back for a new season and the episode basically forces him to go back to work because nothing's allowed to change because it has to continue forever and make more money yeah i i feel like yeah i feel like that's one of them that's one of the best episodes of south park to me like because it actually changed me in a good way which was like that whole like it's not cool to just hate everything you know like to like be that way is not cool. And it's better to like things in general, you know, like that sort of, that's what I took from that episode. I remember. And it actually changed my outlook on things where I was like, yeah, being this cynical dickhead, who's always looking down on everything is actually not a good personality to have. And,

you know, I still have a little bit of that residually, but I think it made me a little bit better in some ways. Yeah, well, Stephen says Stan's the main kid. Randy's the main adult. The Marshes have always been the main family in the show. Cartman is just a popular character, not the main one. Sorry, Will. So he actually went up against Big Will. Yeah, that's ballsy to go toe-to-toe with Big Will.

Big Will is one of the heaviest on the whole forum by far. You come at the king. Yeah, absolutely. That's why he won. Moondragon69 says, All the characters are the main character. Oh, that's not, you can't say that. That's crazy. After all, the title of the main character. Oh, that's not, you can't say that. That's crazy.

After all, the title of the show is South Park. So that means it's all about the characters who live there. There are many examples of episodes that mostly focus on one character. Randy, Stan, Butters, Cartman, and so on. And not mostly just the four boys. So, it's a good. I'm surprised no one has said actually the town is the main character it's crazy it's crazy uh stan love 25 said uh i learned something today is no doubt stan's line more than

kyle so he that i learned a lot yeah they're the same character yeah and also this guy's name is stan love oh that's true he used it far more often in the other seasons no one says it often anymore in the past few seasons now sure kyle may have said it the last couple times but it's still more stan line he's the one they made a t-shirt with it not kyle oh they probably made t-shirts they probably made both but in terms of absolute number one main boy the boy that the show belongs to if there had to be one that would be one would be stan or cartman kyle cannot be the number one main as there are simply not enough episodes based off him or his family stan and Cartman have plenty. Kyle reacts off what those two are doing more than anything a lot of the time.

Stan is the number one protagonist. Cartman is the number one antagonist. So in a way, they both share the number one spot equally. I kind of agree with that one. I honestly do. That's kind of the one that I agree with. I think there is some truth to the fact that Stan's family, like you see, Randy is now this huge part of it.

That family seems to be the main family, and he does seem to be the protagonist of it, probably. Yeah. Arrow Jockey actually did say that's like asking whether Stephanie or Joey is the main character of Fool House. Oh, man. We all know it's clear. It's Uncle Jesse. It's clearly danny tanner so i want to do one last thing here um that i found really funny we probably won't get through the whole thing for sure because well no it's not actually that long um and this is south park reddit has a pinned the top so you know the rules

you know on on the reddit and uh our rules on politics i wanted to read so uh it says if you do not read this post you run the risk of getting permanently banned perma ban oh my god the fucking two scariest words in the vocabulary of a poster and this isn't big will either like a big will was over here i think it'd be a more light touch it's probably big will's boss yeah it's probably even higher up it's bigger will yeah it's huge will he signs big will paychecks big will's bosses trey and matt he talks to them all the time he can send them scripts yeah let's know what's going on on the forum all political all political discussion must pertain to the world of south park i repeat

all political discussion must pertain to the world of South Park. I repeat, all political discussion must pertain to the world of South Park. One more time. All political discussion must pertain to the world of South Park. This means real world politics are only to be discussed within the context of the show. If someone does not appear in this show, well, they don't really belong on this sub. Do you love the alt-right we don't care you love the left we don't care you want to argue politics about real world stuff that hasn't even been mentioned in the show well get the fudge out uh big bill needs to fix that i think that's a cartman quote saying get the fudge you get the fudge out I feel okay

yeah but I thought it was wokeness that's great that it's like are you all right or generally left either or like don't both are the same to us like we're describing those as like two sides of a coin but it's like wait a second

one of them is like considered to be outside of the mainstream of anything and the other one is within the political spectrum uh he says they're limiting uh discussion though because south park now is off for about 10 months a year so the most relevant thing is what happened in april right you could be talking about that in december that's the last political thing that happened you can talk about because it was the last thing they ever covered you're still allowed to talk about john kerry you could sit down and talk john kerry all day um we are unpaid mods here to enjoy a show not push agendas get into political fights or deal with a bunch of r

words flinging shit you want to have you want to have a real political discussion go to our politics or any of the numerous other political subs we are a sub about the television show south park we are not a sub about politics keep that in mind so now we get a fact uh to faq um why don't you allow real world politics that is the first question after that post is like so i was reading that but my question is why do you do that and it says we have a very small mod team and are shorthanded as such we decided that real world politics just aren't worth the shit show they bring seriously when posts posts that have a real world pictures of trump or mention him directly in a lot of bad outside posts people that have zero history on the sub before the post just

want to argue like idiots it's not worth it to deal with all of them so they don't want people coming in there talking about trump but so have they meant have they done an episode about trump has he like showed up on the show they have to right yeah they well that's the thing i already as uh i with a poster's brain i'm already seeing the like easy loophole here just like literally every episode of south part they have done so many episodes that anything in the like i don't know like there's a mass shooting that's you can just say like oh you know this recent mass shooting reminds me of this episode. And then, boom, that's your entrance into talking about it. Totally. And, you know, that's what's happening on here.

That, like, is actually like the justification. The next frequently asked question is, why don't you change the rules? Why don't you change the rules? You know, it seems unfair to, you know, discourage political discussion because South Park radicalized generations to having the worst politics ever. Yeah. And we're saying don't talk about that. You know, it's not fair to them. Yeah. He says, because that will require more work.

And until we get people volunteering to help us, we are already at our limit. Next question. Why don't you just bring on more mobs so so this this is like is this seems like a conversation that they are having where it's just like here's the rule and it's just like well what why do you have that rule it's a because of this well why don't you do this that like it seems like it's like a it's a back and forth it does and he says honestly the last two times we have done it there is one person left out of the 10 plus mods that were added now i want to just know who that person is by the way it's fucking big will baby fucking big will because

he's still doing it in 2023 i mean big will is their toughest soldier yeah um but i do have to yeah so he goes uh we will do mod applications again but it will be before the new season airs so far we just had this single special and mod applications are not easy modding can be very time consuming and we are unpaid volunteers remember you get what you pay for if you want to volunteer to help us in the meantime, feel free to shoot us a message and we will look you over. Now, this just turned into like them campaigning to get new mods. Like, I know.

Yeah. Imagine how hell it is to be a mod on the South port, South park Reddit. Oh, this motherfucker just said South park. Flubheads, by the way, I know you guys are out.

You've been having a great time recently, but flub heads, that was one for you. So this comes out next week yeah well hopefully everyone comments underneath the episode uh when you post on twitter south pork and here's the thing about this last week we had the most the the flubbiest flub of all time and now shocking flub a shocking flub that happened and now listeners are posting i fixed it yeah put the thing up and now boko underscore t posted the flub version yeah so just just to be clear what happened was we did a whole intro and i think drill like somebody didn't have their headphones in so there was like you know

there was uh um audio coming through and i stopped it like five minutes in i realized hey this is not going to work it's going to be impossible to edit out and so we got to start again and brian left the initial one in and never took it out and so but but it wouldn't be a big problem except for we essentially did the same intro again like we just said the same things again thinking it would be removed and then he left all of it in including the time in between when we were like talking yeah not thinking thankfully we didn't say anything bad like you know like it was because we were just talking thinking it wasn't going out and he just posted the whole thing. Yeah, huge mistake.

But we don't say bad stuff. No, what I mean is, I didn't mean bad, like problematic. What I meant was like a rude thing about somebody, or like, do you know what I mean? Like some comment about somebody that's just, you don't want to be saying publicly, you know? You can just say you were quoting South Park. Well, the next question, I think, is one that you guys are going to find very interesting.

And I really think this frequently asked question is, but President Garrison is supposed to be Trump. Sorry, excuse me? Yeah, Mr. Garrison became president. What the fuck are you talking about? and basically talking about they did a whole so the 2016 season was mr garrison just is trump like they don't have trump on the show he just becomes trump and he's running against hillary and like many people like us too i i assumed well hillary clinton's gonna win they plotted the whole season that well when hillary wins wins Garrison goes back to work and when Trump won and they're like well then I guess Garrison's president and he's gonna be the

Trump figure for the this next four years and and he still is now or well he stopped being president uh soon enough well also after that season then they said you know we're kind of we're going to step away from doing the trump stuff now it's it's kind of played out was was their reasoning and this is a three-year-old frequently asked questions so like it is that is like uh uh right in the middle probably of the other election where the biden trump election which probably the south park forum was a hellhole um so but paris president garrison is supposed to be trump now the answer to that is that isn't a question but we all know who he's supposed to be you want to make some stupid meme use president garrison just leave trump's name out of it uh that's smart so you could just say like yo

president garrison is like fucking destroying this country with his like you know you could just like just instead of saying trump just say garrison and have your regular discussion yeah and in parentheses he says seriously even putting his name in a title brings out the idiots or use the actual donald trump from the show he isn't president in the show so it won't exactly make sense well wait a second what are you talking about we know who he is in real so you're saying oh just put the image of him and just say like only in the i'm talking about alan annoyed me and when donald trump appeared in the show as a character he was very uh racist or something so it's true trump was in the show as himself

there was a trump character in the show but there was also mr garrison as trump uh yeah i would bet that in the past before he became a candidate trump appeared in episodes as like you know the usual you know making fun of like Ripper in the headlines, his feud with Rosie. The Apprentice stuff or maybe some reference to The Apprentice or whatever. Yeah. Well, there's still more to that. Oh, no. He goes, you want to have Biden?

Good news. He appeared in the show and you can use his depiction. Simply put, do not use real world depictions. I am not. So you can't have photos being just a screen. Well, I mean, so you have a screenshot of Biden from like an Obama episode and say like this guy's stupid. Like that. That's OK.

That's fine. Yeah, that's fine. But if he posts his real image, that's a permaban. That's too political. Yeah, and he goes, I'm not kidding here. The mere mention, oh, he says it brings out the idiots again,

just using their in-show counterparts. People get passionate about politics. And while that is good, it can also be really annoying. Last question. I got banned for politics what do i do find a new forum and over to our politics and get or start a new account or whatever it's like it's all anonymous just get a different email and just if you i don't even know you probably wouldn't

even need a vpn just start a new account and come on and don't talk about politics well this is an interesting one actually first off you should read this post a link to this post should be included in your ban message once you've read this post respond to the message and tell us you have read this post and are sorry for breaking the rules so long as you aren't a dick about it you will get unbanned seriously an apology will get you far so uh that's kind of that's nice people should reply to those emails with like a picture of carmen saying like carmen would think this is gay your rules are gay yeah totally the opposite of the show you did i am a bigger fan than you a little bit of censorship i think really yeah no if you're on the south park thing like that guy look i i get their reasoning

for it and i'm not taking south park sides but if you're if you're in the south park fandom and then you're like guys there's some topics we're just not going to talk about anymore it's like then why are you on the south park reddit like honestly yeah i'm just picturing a guy watching the first episode of next season and being like, please have Ron DeSantis. Please have Ron DeSantis. I just want to talk about it so badly. He's got it all ready to go. He's got the meme and everything ready.

Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, one second here. I want to do one more thing, and then we are done. Can't read my, can't read my, no, he can't read my poker face. I want to do one more thing and then we are done. That's three minutes. This is a three minute and 35 second song,

which I won't play the whole thing. I wanted to get the whole song. It's the whole thing. I wanted to get the whole song. It's the whole thing. Yeah. It's, uh, that song's now older than the current generation of like new South Park. Yeah. This was uploaded 13 years ago.

It is, it is crazy that the people really love it. If you scroll down, uh, it's like, I, and I ran Ronically love this version more than the original version. I want this to be on Spotify.

13 years and still hits. I love how Cartman gets more intense and passionate by the end of the song. So I highly recommend it. You go to Slammer Jam on YouTube. You can't really like that. They can't serious they like it better than they're if it sounds bad like his voice is grating from a singing it doesn't sound good you get the ironic removal from it'd be gay to like lady gaga but yeah you like the carmen one then it's not then you're not gay yeah that's true lady gaga is very pro-gay famously yeah leave it love it more than

original his voice and his passion is just awesome uh this song never gets old xd and uh then he thanks people for giving him 46 likes on that. Hey, that's good. He should compliment people for giving that many likes. There's a father's death one. This song changed my life. After my father's death, this song managed to give me comfort. Thanks, Eric Cartman. So that's what I'm saying. That's like a play. That person's doing a play on those posts. They're goofing. Yeah.

Yeah. All right. Well, that was incredibly fun. One of the longer episodes. Actually, I had so much South Park stuff. And like the thing about it is South Park is going to be a guys plus like thing because there I I could have clipped everything and any everything that's posted. It's all very funny. The, the fans are very into South park.

I will just last thing. I'll just ask you guys, do you guys find that they, that Simpsons have this type of fandom in the same sort of way? Like, do you think there could be since guys episode where you read the forums and we laugh just as hard? I'm sure there's great stuff to find, but I think there's just some guys episode where you read the forums and we laugh just as hard? I'm sure there's great stuff to find, but I think there's just more discussion with South Park because it came it debuted when the Internet existed.

So I think it just sparked more forums and posts and discussion. And I don't think the Simpsons is treated like that as much south park also takes political stances and i think it it builds up its audience more to think they are very smart to have more more intense conversations about well south park would feel this or south park would feel that like and i mean all those quotes you had there was such reverence for it that like in the simpsons fan community it's more like there's extreme reverence for like say the first decade but then there is a lot more cynicism of well but now it sucks but like it seems people even on the most recent season at south park are slow to say well it sucks now though like they don't want to say that they they still love it and actually one thing i did notice is that with

simpsons discussions online everybody is just doing doing quotes and using Frankie Act to pull screenshots. With the South Park stuff, nobody's quoting anything because South Park, it's more about the ideas and the arguments than it is about funny jokes or dialogue. I feel like with Simpsons discussion, you're just seeing, you know, Lisa needs braces, dental plan, Lisa needs braces, or just any of the millions of quotes you can mine. But what is a South Park quote that people say? Well, there's some of them. I can't really say them on the podcast. Right? Yeah, I want cheesy poofs.

That's a safe one. Yeah. Please respect my authority. Oh, yeah. It is funny to hear. I mean, you're only doing old ones, and we all are, because that's where our reference points are these are all like really early references yeah if you rule out

anything that was on a t-shirt i think you the well will be dry for south park quotes that's true and i haven't seen it in so long but like i remember respect my authority as being like the funniest thing i had ever seen so you know my my final thought on this is i'm curious that you guys on guys you guys go into a lot with horny guys the the guy because brian is the one so we end up talking about it because of his almost got through the episode without chris accusing me of being a sex guy well i'm just curious like there have to be a good number of south park fans who got you know it was like in the south park movie i remember there's like topless girls in it and i wonder there have to be kids uh who are now adults who are like

got turned on by south park drawings especially and are heavily engaged in that side or that niche of a niche of South Park guys. I'm on Pornhub now. Well, Simpsons porn is a big thing too, though. Not that I've watched and J-O'd to it or anything like that, but I've definitely seen Simpsons porn. Like Simpsons and Family Guy porn. I remember when I was younger, I would see that quite a bit. We got

South Park XXX. They have it doesn't look like the real South Park characters. They're more like the Sims. But you're right. I do feel like there was horny stuff in the show that they could get horny

for, whereas the Simpsons, you kind of had to make your own stuff because there was nothing to really get horny for in the show. Oh, here's one. It's called Jacking My Dick While Watching South Park. Well, that's just porn fan

fiction. Wow. Okay. Well, hey, good way to end the episode. We had to get jacking my dick into the episode. Well, of course, check out Henry at H-E-N-E-R-E-Y-G. Thank you. So hard to read, Henry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry i'm sorry and bob at bob servo and listen to talking

simpsons i've been on it twice uh and it rules it's very funny they made me watch the simpsons for the first time in like fucking decades and i didn't hate it so i don't think i have you planned your trip to branson yet since that one he's got another he's got another trip he's got to do beforehand to jamaica for uh hedonism too i'm not listen you now have people saying how much would the go fund me have to be there is no amount of money none yeah uh well we'll break you down listen i can tell i've i've known you for a while i've had these conversations i can tell where there's a little sort of glimmer in your eye i can tell there's something there we can make this happen i will dan producer dan asked said he wants to go and i said i don't want to sit around naked with you dan not into that uh you know find chris at uh at the cjs and not even a show and uh i'm brian

you get guys plus on the patreon where we talk about older episodes so uh this week south park guys could be on there. Last week, we added we didn't add any EDC guys last week. I think this week we're doing hot sauce and karate because I got really like. Into the idea of karate after we read the post for the guy that went into the dojo and stood by the mat for 90 minutes and then wrote a bad review because nobody talked to him nobody came up and approached him and and uh sort of invited him into the dojo and welcomed him and he's he claims to have stood there for 90 minutes i mean he's lucky nobody called the police on him honestly yeah i mean i love the idea because i've done this before i've waited on

hold for like two hours so that when they answer the phone i could say i've been out of here for two hours like you could kind of be mad about it and that so that's why he did it um but yeah patreon.com murderxbrian and you if you like the flubs uh twitch.tv slash murder x brian i flub a lot there like more than you can imagine it's it's live yeah and also i don't know how any of it works but i think we're gonna fix that tomorrow maybe i don't know uh goodbye everybody we'll see you next week with, I think it's Yelp. Oh, Horror Guys. We'll be doing Horror Guys with DB and Eric from Soundtracker. So, bye. Bye. Bye.