Guys: With Bryan Quinby - Guys: Episode 27 - Warhammer 40k Guys with @Merrittk

Episode Date: August 15, 2023

You all kept asking for it and we finally did it so now you can get mad at me. We brought Merritt on to talk about Warhammer 40k, the most impenetrable subject we have ever covered. Thanks to @lebigar...istotle on Twitter for hipping me to a few guys We talked about the Warhammer hotel, the love of Henry Cavill, whether space marines have penises or boobs and the lore that is impossible for an outsider to understand So if you get mad at this episode just remember that I play with legos you can find Merritt at https://www.youtube.com/@merrittk and at Merrittk on all of you social media apps You can find more Chris at https://www.patreon.com/notevenashow/ and on youtube at https://www.youtube.com/@NotEvenAShow/ and twitter.com/thecjs For more Guys you can get a weekly dose of Guys+ where me and chris revisit old subjects and check in with our collection of Guys at patreon.com/murderxbryan and on Sunday Nights and sometimes other days you can catch me or us streaming at twitch.tv/murderxbryan

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Welcome to Guys, a podcast about guys. I am Brian. With us is my co-host, thedark chris james you know what that word means what do you mean what does that know i don't think warhammer guys know oh god that's one of them that's one of the worst things you do when you just jump right into the episode and you use some lingo from the like community and then you big time me with it because you know i don't know any of this stuff you should know this is a big deal okay well and just to be clear do you want me to research this stuff before nope i'd rather you don't
Starting point is 00:00:57 and i'm going to tell you why because then i can flex on you that I know stuff that you don't know. And that feels great to me. Our guest this week is, I'm going to introduce you. It is Merritt Kay. Hello. Hey, how's it going? So here's what I did. I racked my brain and I thought and I said, who do I follow on Twitter that's posted the most about Warhammer?
Starting point is 00:01:25 And it was you and Bakun. And you don't look pleased about that. So I got to think about some stuff. I've got to reevaluate. So I searched Warhammer with people I follow. And you have posted more about Warhammer than any of the 850 people I follow on Twitter. Oh, no, man. And now you do follow the creator of Warhammer as well, Brian.
Starting point is 00:01:55 So that's very concerning. Jimmy Warhammer. Yeah. God, that is dark. So, Merit, so are you... Now, i don't is warhammer this is i'm not even making this up i'm not playing dumb here is warhammer a game is it a wow what what what is it well okay help real quick yeah chris warhammer is several things. Yeah. It's a franchise. I hate when something is several things.
Starting point is 00:02:28 I like something to just be one thing. Right? You want things to be a thing. Not like a sprawling transmedia empire, but that's the world we live in now. And Merit is one side of the thing. I believe you're a lore
Starting point is 00:02:44 head. You like the lore uh like is as an interesting word uh i can read some tweets uh yeah i know you could for sure i feel like i'm in court like i'm having this shit read back to me well uh you say that but uh on April 4th, you tweeted, does the suit jack off Space Marines like the Halo guy? We know that the Space Marines can't jack off. We know that they can't jack off. They don't have dicks, Scott. Well, they might have dicks. They might have dicks, but they can't jack off.
Starting point is 00:03:17 Because I do have somebody asking that question in some of my notes here. Let's get down here. Okay. in some of my notes here down here um okay ask science fiction they sausage comeback posted this on ask science fiction uh recently nine years ago actually not recently recently nine years ago warhammer 40k do space marines have penis by the way have penis i'm not it. By the way, have penis. I'm not making anything up here. And what are Space Marines? Oh my god. Where did we fucking start?
Starting point is 00:03:52 Yeah. Warhammer started off as a game called Rogue Trader that came out in the 80s, put out by some weird British guys. It started as a different game? It started as a different game started as a different game called rogue trader that is it's set in the world of the 40 of the year 40 000 or further i
Starting point is 00:04:13 don't know that's in the future it's in the far in the future in the inconceivable future as far as i'm concerned oh yeah no i mean yeah we're, we're all dust. But it started off as this game, but it was created by these British lunatics in the 80s and had, like, this very weird aesthetic to it. Like, it was very, like, lads, but also, like, do you know, like, those British comics from the 80s, like Judge Dredd and stuff like that,
Starting point is 00:04:41 where they're, like, hyper-violent, but also kind of funny? Yeah. It was, like, that in that, like, world. That kind of funny yeah uh it was like that in that like world that kind of like what type of game like rpg it was like a tabletop like okay like a war game and then it kind of evolved from there and became more and more popular and uh so it's this far futuristic world where everything is really shitty for basically everybody but in different ways and um it kind of just like continued to expand and then the company that owns it games workshop uh has just become bigger and bigger to the point that now there's like
Starting point is 00:05:15 ton there's like a new if you go on steam there's like a new warhammer game like every week it seems like uh there's like warhammer games in like literally every genre there's like flight sims real-time strategy first person shooters squad-based combat it's like pretty much anything you could think of and then they still make the um the tabletop game which is like little models that you put together you paint and you you battle with with your friends now um also books there's also books there's tons of like fiction in this universe too there's a lot of lore and like stories oh yeah i heard there's some people are really into the lore they call fluff for some reason i don't know why but i i just wanted to go back you
Starting point is 00:05:56 mentioned it's in the future you said this isn't a time when everything's pretty bad for everyone in some way or another i said i was thinking, when is it set? 2024? 2023? Wait, what year is it? Who knows? Anyways, you know, you get the gist of the joke. Guilted Sith did answer the penis question, I think.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Okay. In the best way that you possibly could answer it. Yeah. I have never read any official statements that tell us either way. Many statues and paintings of Astartes out of armor seem to show a crotch bulge. That may just be artistic license. I'd always assumed that the testicles at least recede into the body. They have no need for genitals.
Starting point is 00:06:39 Perhaps just a small waste elimination tube remains. Why don't they need genitals? Okay, God. Oh, my God. Okay, so. Okay. small waste illumination elimination tube remains why don't they need genitals okay god oh my god okay so okay so basically in warhammer world there's this guy called the emperor of man right and he's like thousands and thousands of years old and like he was like some immortal guy i guess he's kind of like apocalypse from x-men like he was born in like ancient egypt i think and basically has been like guiding humanity for like ancient egypt i think and basically has been like guiding humanity for like thousands and thousands of years and then has these like
Starting point is 00:07:09 sons that he sends across the universe to like you know i don't really remember why maybe that was an accident he wasn't supposed to do that and uh basically he then goes through the universe and like finds them and is like you're gonna to be the leaders of my army that's going to unite humanity it's kind of like dune like they stole a lot i mean i feel like this is pretty formulaic as far as you know i'm thinking of like superhero movies and even marvel movies and stuff like that it does seem to sort of have the same sort of concepts that i'm a little bit familiar with the thing is this is not in the,000. All this shit is happening way before all that. So, like, this is not what the game is about, because this is all just backdrop.
Starting point is 00:07:49 You don't actually get to experience any of this when you're playing the game. Well, there's, like, I think there are some now, there's, like, historical scenarios where you can play this out. But the basic idea is, like, he gets all his sons back together, and then, uh, but one of them is evil, and he's, like, tempted by... One of them is always evil. One of them of them is evil and he's like tempted by one of them is always
Starting point is 00:08:06 one of them's always evil and he basically uh there's this force in the universe called chaos which is just like there's these four gods who represent like i don't like war like they're kind of like four horsemen they're like war like disease lust and like i don't know magic or knowledge or something and they like corrupt this guy he goes back to earth has this big fight with his dad uh his dad kills him but then he like puts his dad on life support basically yeah and uh he and his goons like flee to the outer reaches of space and so the emperor of man is like still alive uh allegedly in this huge thing called the golden throne where they have to throw like tens of thousands of people into it every day to keep him alive sounds to me like you like i don't
Starting point is 00:08:58 want to be rude it sounds like you're doing a bit you're like trying to say like desperately trying to come up with something like yeah just like a bit you're like trying to say like desperately trying to come up with something like yeah just like saying ridiculous stuff that like like and then it's in the golden shit you know what i mean yeah it sounds like it's like what i would say if i were making fun of this kind of thing let me just say that if you go to youtube and type warhammer lore yeah all there are really no videos under 50 minutes nobody can do it and i have is the problem what who's writing all of this stuff it's been going for like 40 years and the thing is like the tone of all this stuff started off as like parodic and like goofy because it was being
Starting point is 00:09:45 written by like british guys in their 20s in the 1980s and they're like oh man and then wouldn't it be funny if like there were orcs who just yeah were like flying around and doing shit and like uh talked like you know who made it serious who made it serious uh rib dark hard to say but i think just like market forces kind of like eventually like people just liked maybe americans is there like a person who makes all this money off of war like is there like someone who's like the head of war hammer making it's become like it's just a huge corporation at this point so i don't think there's one guy who's like in charge like it's like i don't know if it's publicly traded or private or what but uh this is this all all of this well just it sounds like a nightmare to me brian let's uh let's delve
Starting point is 00:10:31 into let's i gotta let's have a quora time yeah which this is gonna really help everybody to really get into this why is warhammer 40k so popular which again another very funny question on Quora they ask my favorite questions good website it is it's the best there's a saying in the Warhammer community childhood is hoping for a future like Star Trek adult is when you adulthood is when you realize Warhammer 40k is more realistic. Now, as for why, there's a lot of reasons, but the quote above highlights the main point. The setting is mature and dark as hell. Warhammer 40K offers an immense universe filled with stories of woe,
Starting point is 00:11:18 tragedy, betrayal, and corruption. I personally don't buy the game figures but i'm obsessed with the lore as far as stories go only the game of thrones series captures the same level of vastness and diversity of environments and characters there's a thousand characters to love hate or just cry over when the day a thousand characters oh my. Nothing that turned me off fast. There's a thousand characters. I'm never going to learn about all of them. I don't think you have to,
Starting point is 00:11:50 because there's all these, like basically they've created just this big fictional universe, like star Wars, where they're like, here's a novel about some guy and you don't really need to know, but any of the other characters, it's just, this guy's it's space adventures uh in a world where if you think
Starting point is 00:12:05 about sucks too hard a demon like eats your soul oh well and and what's funny is like people think because i've been posting about it that i'm going to get into warhammer but i never in in 25 or 26 episodes i don't know i misnumbered the one, and who fucking knows where we're at now. And I haven't found anything as impenetrable as Warhammer. It was like, how do I make this show funny for normal people, so Warhammer people aren't going to get mad at me? And it's impossible. And there's literally no other setting like warhammer it's the staple of dark science fiction so big and vast that to be drowned not drowned in it is not doing the series justice
Starting point is 00:12:52 it makes star wars look like a preschool preschool stick fight oh wow okay no hang on i love those kinds of things that was it on Guys Plus where we had the guy who had that incredible review a little while ago where he was talking about how this hot sauce is, you know, makes water seem like the hottest stuff on earth. this is pretty this isn't pretty good calling it like a preschool stick fight i mean that is pretty heavy duty um well you know that's a big insult let me let me even the bloodiest moment in game of thrones is a drop in the ocean compared to some of 40k's bloodiest battles where are the battles happening is there a show there's a book oh it's in the book there's also a video game yeah i know that i i get i get that there's all these games and stuff so there's a book and then there is there a movie that's ever come out not yet don't think they're like fan movies but like how how is this in how has hollywood not gotten a hold of this if this is
Starting point is 00:14:06 in time they have now they have yeah henry cavill and amazon are making a thing and i do happen to have a reaction video of uh of somebody from when they found out henry and henry cavill he's the he's the he's the one who's like obsessed with warhol before we started recording that's the only thing i and most people know about warhammer where you hear about it in pop culture is that this guy and it's it's always meant to be this big thing like this big hunk likes warhammer now yeah it's kind of like got from that that like this is expectedly you're expecting nerds to like it like there was always kind of like got from that that like this is expectedly expect you're expecting nerds to like it like it was kind of the story like oh can you believe this big hunk likes it you know
Starting point is 00:14:51 right yeah i kind of have fans emotional reaction to this good wait do you hear this guy has many war many war games date he is a millionaire he played the biggest game of Warhammer 40,000 with 300,000 figurines in the game. And it took 28 hours. Why did he do that? To make YouTube videos about it. And I mean, I knew this, but Chris, you might be interested to know that he is from Canada. this but chris you might be interested to know that he is from canada ah fellow warhammer hotel wait he has a warhammer where is that like the star wars like okay it's just because so okay with like a star wars hotel like even though that was a terrible idea and like it was sounded awful and was so expensive you could see the appeal right because star wars seems like kind of a fun world to like go oh i'm gonna go hang out in the cantina and like talk to the devil or
Starting point is 00:15:52 whatever um warhammer world is like the fucking worst like why would i want to go to a theme warhammer hotel where there's like space hellraisers and like demons and shit like that just why it is called the mini war game bunker here i can get you guys some some info on or is it just like if you want to play warhammer and stay at this warhammer spa or whatever you can do no no it's themed here we'll uh we'll play the old video so it's like themed like a bunker it's got got the hotel. It's like a hotel. Where is this? This is in Canada? Canada is a large country. Can you give us more?
Starting point is 00:16:32 This guy doesn't know. He claims to be Canadian. Welland, Ontario, Canada. Somewhere. Okay, Ontario. Yeah. Okay. Yep, I've been there. You have? If you've ever dreamed of immersing yourself in a world-class gaming center, then visiting the bunker is a must-do.
Starting point is 00:16:49 Oh my god, oh my god. Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. It looks like an actual wartime bunker with horrible bunk beds in this... This is insane. Fake guns mounted on the wall. But it looks dank and it looks very dang and and like it looks yeah very unpleasant like why would i want to live in warhammer world it's fucking terrible it looks uncomfortable this
Starting point is 00:17:12 what this looks like brian if i might say is it kind of looks yeah you know what i'm talking about right we do we what our first episode was on sex guys and we there's swingers who go to these different sex clubs and this reminds me of one of the playrooms that they have warhammer sex dungeon yeah exactly and some of the playrooms are like sex dungeons yeah yeah yeah yeah it's really kind of creepy here maybe maybe an honored guest in one of our themed luxury suites inspired by games workshops tabletop luxury each is equipped even that yeah there was an okay one that was like looked a little bit better it was like at least a double size bed but it was yeah i like that they lose the bit in the bathroom though it just looks like kind of normal bathroom with like sci-fi art on the walls like they didn't commit to the bit of
Starting point is 00:18:01 having like a filthy steel like just basin to piss in it yeah it looks like it looks like the kleenex box might have might have like a volcano on the side of it but yeah the the general decor in there is quite pleasant like something my mom would have or something yeah whipped with everything you could want to pamper yourself in comfort and glory. The golden throne. Wait, hold on. The golden throne. The toilet is the golden throne? Yeah, well, hey, and we don't need to get into how some of... It's not gold, though.
Starting point is 00:18:34 And, you know, thankfully for some of us, it's not gold, because that would make it even more difficult when we got to inevitably call the plumber. And start up. One of us struggles with his toilet at his house i just want to say okay you can come with a group of friends as a distinguished guest yeah i bet you can well hang on a second i don't think it's this is not hedonism he this is not i i wonder how much love making is happening at this warhammer
Starting point is 00:19:06 that i think is actually one of the core appeals of warhammer it is one of the most sexless fictional universes okay in reality like game of thrones people fuck constantly uh there's you know sexual violence there's like marriages there's all kinds of stuff where i'm like i'm sure in the books in some of the books people like are in love or like maybe you like kiss or something but like in most of the mainstream stuff it's so completely devoid of any of that which i think is one of the reasons why it appeals to a lot of the guys that it appeals to that's cool i really did look into like i did i we will later
Starting point is 00:19:45 on talk about some erotic uh fan fiction or whatever but now that yeah now that people don't do fanfic or fan art but like of course horny people are gonna get involved yeah but like yeah you can you know be a fan of the thing without being confronted with the existence of people fucking yeah yeah that's cool yeah and so you. You're thinking people here maybe at the hotel there might not be a lot of sex going on. I don't think there's much knocking on the door and yelling keep it down at me. It doesn't look
Starting point is 00:20:13 romantic or like it doesn't look like it invites that kind of thing. It's been engineered to prevent that from happening. State of the art gaming hall. It is stocked with the okay so that's that's warhammer that's what we're looking at right now is the tabletop game okay yeah they uh they do the they are pretty cool some of the figures are pretty cool i have to say you know like yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:20:35 you'll transport your games to a whole new level battle into the wee hours of the morning and create memories the bunker experience the four people for two bunk beds in one room is i i can't oh like does someone come in and yell at you at like six in the morning like all right you maggots get up it's time to play some warhammer i mean this is the ceilings are low it really has like an underground kind of feel to it. It seems very unpleasant. Like even if you're into something like this, it looks like an escape room. Like it looks like a fake room that's been built inside of a warehouse.
Starting point is 00:21:17 Totally. Totally. Totally. It might be. It might be. For gamers of all sorts, plan a week long bachelor party, host an epic game. Oh oh my god how sick would
Starting point is 00:21:27 you be playing warhammer after like the first like couple of days of a long bachelor party like even if you really loved it like you'd have to think there's a point when you're like i just can't anymore i need a break you know like can we watch a movie i would say a week-long bachelor party is is very long or a campaign like the problem is too like you're playing warhammer you can't like get really drunk or like do drugs because you're gonna like accidentally hit something and break it and then that's your whole day it's trying to put it back together so you're saying that this is not a game that people are getting all fucked up and playing i mean they're drinking beer but beer, but I think there's a limit on how
Starting point is 00:22:05 drunk you can really get. Yeah. It's a lot, Chris. Because you're measuring stuff. You're moving these little delicate pieces around. You're measuring stuff? Yeah. It's a lot. When you watch these guys play it, it's like, it's so
Starting point is 00:22:22 fucking much. It is just I feel, and I what i might get yelled at i feel that so they say this about wrestling a lot that there's so much of it and so much history of it yeah and the history is the good stuff by the way the history is the good stuff and like from the 60s that's when real wrestling happened it's just like comic books they say that there's the the vast long history of it the the number of people and the fact that there's like 15 hours of wrestling on a week yeah it's the cost of entry too high right new people to get into warhammer is the thing is i this is the first time where i'm like i fucking get it man i just i can't even figure out how much time it would take yeah people are
Starting point is 00:23:16 like are you gonna talk about the tau and i'm like i don't fucking know i'm not talking man you gotta talk about the tau because how can you not talk about the... Oh, man, you got to talk about the Tau. How can you not talk about the Tau? You really weren't going to talk about the Tau? The space communists that everyone thought were extremely controversial when they were introduced in the 2000s because everyone was like, these guys don't belong in the universe. You're just trying to get anime fans in here
Starting point is 00:23:36 by putting giant robots in. And you weren't going to talk about the Tau? Wow. It's too much wokeness. God, that is actually another big's too much wokeness. Yeah. Immerse yourself. God, that is actually another big part of Warhammer, guys. Is that a thing about whether Warhammer is woke or not? Oh, there's a... And so again, you're saying these new games are being made and stuff.
Starting point is 00:23:57 So those are the things that would be woke? No, no, no. Just like the entire presentation or... Well, okay. So like there have been debates around this shit going back like decades because- But woke just started. No, I know. But they didn't use that term.
Starting point is 00:24:14 They just used like liberal or whatever. But it's like a war game, right? It's a game about just like and it's a universe where everything sucks and everyone's fighting all the time. like and it's a universe where everything sucks and everyone's fighting all the time and um like humans are just like so like under siege from all these different aliens and like monsters and stuff that their society is basically like a christofascist nightmare um and uh the debate is like is that based that they're like that? Or is that parody? And Games Workshop has tried to come out in the last few years and be like, no, we don't actually endorse any of this stuff.
Starting point is 00:24:52 We don't endorse organizing your society around sacrificing tens of thousands of people a day to your psychic god emperor. But on the other hand, it's like, yeah, but all your stories are about how cool that is. So you're just trying to have your cake and eat it, too. But you've got, you know, people like, no, Warhammer is inclusive. Like, no, Warhammer is just for the base epic pepe's. I do have something for you, Merit. Somebody pointed me to a few guys, like actual guys.
Starting point is 00:25:20 And one of them is SEG Studio. His name is Michael Bell. I'm going to read you his, his intro. So his thing is he is a professional. He makes models and paints them for people. And he has his own army. That is the theme is monster energy drink.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Okay. Everything he does has the monster logo or is in the monster color scheme and i like when people do stuff like that because people will just like just really this is one of those things where if you like commit to a bit it's like extremely good and funny because the amount of work to to commit to the bit is so much well michael what do you mean he makes i don't under he makes them for what he's part of the warhammer guys he's part of the no no so he buys like the model kits and like makes them and paints them but like maybe like models or like paints them in such a way where like they're like
Starting point is 00:26:13 monster energy themed i guess i get this okay but he's doing that to resell them no no his his things he doesn't resell that's his gimmick as his army he sells ones that he paints so so like warhammer against other people yeah yeah well here i'll explain we'll have you uh 20 days and i wouldn't understand no i'm just trying to like trying to wrap my head around the like totality of it all so you're saying like he has his army that what is he doing with his army playing a game but against other people's armies yes so in like magic the gathering like the same way you're like going you'd play against somebody okay so i thought it was like a game that you sort of like played like oh yeah like i was i was like yeah yeah no people have their own like armies that they bring somewhere like bring a deck of magic cards god takes like 17 times as long to do so this is a guy he's one of the guys
Starting point is 00:27:13 i'm gonna oh he think this guy thinks it's okay yeah he posted this december 14th 2020 and he said hello my name is michael bell i identify as a cis white alpha male prime and my pronouns are lord baller and king your highness uh this is the newest model i've painted i'm not going to show you the model it has a monster energy drink logo or whatever and you can't see it uh because my stupid head's in the way i take several selfies on the level of quality comparable to simple child finger painting. I don't know it's a good paint job or not, JK. It's really good, and I know this because I win tiny toy painting awards all the time, unlike you, but please give me unconditional positive support only anyway, because my ego is fragile,
Starting point is 00:28:02 my fee fees will break, and i will screen snipe your negative comment then complain about receiving honest constructive criticism schism and inclusive progressive 40k group i belong to if you don't can you wait a second i can't i can't wrap my head around what is he being sarcastic yeah i thought he was being sarcastic at first that feels like sarcasm wait no he's being sarcastic about he's I thought he was being sarcastic at first. That feels like sarcasm. He's being sarcastic about... He's doing a bit as like... He calls Games Workshop
Starting point is 00:28:32 Games Woke Shit. Fucking got their asses. Let's dive right into another big controversy in the Warhammer world. And this is from the subreddit. And it says, do people still hate the idea of female space? Female space Marines. Now, this is what everybody wants to hear about.
Starting point is 00:28:57 Because space Marines are supposed to be men. But some woke people got involved. And they're like, we should have some female ones. Okay, so here's what a space marine is. Thank you. They're the warriors of the army of the emperor or whatever. Basically, they're genetically engineered like Superman who are seven feet tall, wear this huge armor,
Starting point is 00:29:23 have big guns, And they're like, they're the ones that the guy sent out to like unite the worlds. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, so how do you get those? Like, can you have those in your army? How does that work? So like, there's like different factions
Starting point is 00:29:38 that you can play as, right? So space Marines are like one of the factions or you can just play as like normal guys who are just like, just normal army guys with like tanks and stuff um but uh yeah space marines are like and they're also like super weirdly like religious uh they have all these like rules about like what is like like kosher or not effectively um and uh they can turn evil uh in which case that's so true any of us have that capability here's the question yeah i always thought the whole women can't be space marines they die thing was kind of dumb i find myself with an extra thunder wolf and thought
Starting point is 00:30:21 it would be fun to convert a sister of battle into a wolf lord with claws is the community at large still full of vitriol and hate at the idea this person says no one really cares while not lore friendly which as a person who loves the story absolutely disgusts me but on the other hand it's your models and if the conversions are nice i wouldn't see any issue with it especially if some lore was written on it as to make it fit in all nice and comfortable, but mainly not a single person cares minus a small amount of people who are often not very good to begin with. First of all, this guy cares. He said, it's not or friend. So the reply is why is it dumb? It's just a point in the lore since biologically males and females are different,
Starting point is 00:31:05 which is a fact. And for some reason, the process for space Marines work only on prepubescent males with the hormones and other items. And Zirin of Light says, I made my noise Marines into demonet hybrids, if that counts. Either way, women- That counts for what? Think he's turning them into women. Women cannot undergo the space marine process. I'm not one to argue with what's set in stone. Heck, I'd love to see female space marines just make power armor waifus all day,
Starting point is 00:31:36 but lore is lore. Okay, so they're saying a good replacement would be a... Or is that just a name that he's using? Or is there something called the way food that is, I don't like it a little, but he said, Laura is lore. So,
Starting point is 00:31:51 so yeah, the, the female space Marines thing goes back like at least 20 years, because I remember seeing stuff about this online back then. And, um, I think in the early days when, because like all this stuff just kind of became codified over time.
Starting point is 00:32:05 It's like Star Wars, right? Except instead of just being George Lucas, there were like a dozen or so people who were contributing to like the world building. So at the beginning it was just total fucking chaos. Just like they were making stuff up and being like, yeah, that would be cool. And I think early on there was like, there were female space Marines.
Starting point is 00:32:22 And then at some point they were like, yeah, it's sort of like, it was, you know, maybe just that they didn't want to like make different models. So they just wanted to, you know, they didn't want to make new molds to like make these new models. And at some point that kind of became like, oh, actually, yeah, no, this is just, you know,
Starting point is 00:32:38 there are only male space marines, but then there are female sisters of battle, which are not genetically engineered, but they are like highly trained fighting space nuns um but yeah it's still people are like oh should there be feel space brains should there not be like yeah it's a lot of it's just like yeah like who fucking cares man yeah and then i come in i come into the thing though into thread, and then I say, guys, it's just a game. It's all made up.
Starting point is 00:33:07 And then everyone applauds me. I raise my hands up. Let's go to Henry Cavill, who did announce recently that he will be starting an Amazon television series of Warhammer. Now, let's take a look at MiniWarGamerDave, the owner of the hotel. That's who this guy is with the grand goatee here. It's just an older video. He does a little bit. Is this an older video? You can't have a grand goatee anymore it's just not a style
Starting point is 00:33:47 it's not a style that's being used on facial hair anymore well it is warhammer guys operate in a different aesthetic universe it's true he's in he's living in the year 4 000 or 40 000 it's come back around it's come back around. It's come back around like 25,000 times. Here he goes. Henry Cavill is making a Warhammer 40K series on Amazon. That's the announcement. And I can hardly contain my excitement. Oh, what a guy. I'm actually holding back emotions.
Starting point is 00:34:18 Yeah, he's actually tearing up a little bit. And he's doing the quick cut youtube video quick cut stuff which leads me to believe that he is struggling to say this because he's cut a bunch of times so he's like he's really struggling to get this out some reason and it's the most incredible thing if you didn't hear about it these are the words from henry on his instagram for 30 years i have dreamt of seeing a Warhammer universe in live action. I can't tell if he's just bad acting. I think he kind of is playing it up.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I think he genuinely is emotional about it, but he doesn't want that to come across, so he's sort of making it seem like it's a joke almost. Yeah. After 22 years of experience in this industry i finally feel like i have the skill set and experience to guide a warhammer cinematic universe into life partnering with natalie viscuso at vertigo has been a blessing beyond words without her we might not have found the perfect home at amazon and having a home like amazon will give us the freedom to be true to the massive scope
Starting point is 00:35:26 of Warhammer. To all you Warhammer fans out there, mmm, mmm, mmm, I promise to respect this IP that we love. I love it. I promise to respect this IP.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I promise. Is he saying IP while he cries oh i think he is doing a bit playing it up yeah he's playing it up but i wonder if like it just seems weird because it's like is he making he is a guy who loves one is he making fun of people who love warhammer about it right yeah like you are excited why are you making fun of this i actually think it's real number one because the people and he replied to people in the uh thing so either he's faking that he's this emotional or he's really this emotional i don't think he's just incredibly awkward yeah i think he's doing a bit of it we we love i promise to bring you something familiar okay and i endeavor to bring you
Starting point is 00:36:28 something fantastic hey god because now it does this does seem legitimate now he's got like real the real weld up eyes real redness in his eyes and the trying is starting to sound a little bit genuine let's play this out this guy might actually be crying over i think he's crying chris i watched the whole thing fantastic that is as of yet unseen our first steps are to find our filmmaker creator writer watch this space my friends brimming with so many emotions so okay so first off automatically the first thing i felt was like this massive ray of hope and positivity. This is going to help normalize Warhammer. Okay, I'm coming around on it. He is genuinely crying.
Starting point is 00:37:20 Normalize Warhammer. Normalize Warhammer. Not a good enough actor to pull this off i don't think because he's his unless he's done something to his eyes to make them seem genuinely what what what is what does he want though for like like does he want warhammer to be star wars basically because being into star wars now is just like normal that's just like a normal person thing you'd be like oh yeah I know I like Star Wars yeah I watch Andor sure yeah
Starting point is 00:37:49 so he wants Warhammer to be that I guess because maybe he wants his family to stop just like just give him some level of respect that the thing that he is so into is a real thing you know the people around him but I feel like these I feel like guys like that
Starting point is 00:38:05 should learn from star wars because when star wars became that it started getting really bad it was always not great but it was like wow what oh disney is finally gonna make these huge sequels and they're gonna be and it's like wow those were fucking terrible and and we know that i mean well we'll listen to a little more here in the global stratosphere this is something that will bring warhammer to the far reaches of the world it just will amazon is massive henry is massive the ip is already growing it's already becoming big and this will just catapult it to even greater heights this is something that's going to affect all of us okay not me not me first of all bringing warhammer to the far reach of the world sounds like you're like oh like we're gonna we're gonna
Starting point is 00:38:57 bring warhammer to like darkest peru like yes this is like these people have never heard of warhammer we gotta spread the good word. We're going to meet uncontacted civilization. Yeah, we're going to go to those places where you're not supposed to go, and we're going to show them Warhammer, and they're going to thank us for it. And then second, this is, to me, if it were less emotional, this is the kind of speech that like a CEO would give about like, we're going to bring more hammer to the world. And it's like,
Starting point is 00:39:28 you're not, you're not, well, I guess he is actually kind of invested in the success of the property because he owns a hotel themed on it. So like the hotel to take, yeah, I guess,
Starting point is 00:39:38 but it's like, you're not going to be succeed. Like this is just obsessive phantom. Like this. I want to make sure people know zero reviews of the hotel i looked all over the fucking place nobody's going to this hotel so he's really hoping it becomes the next star wars that he'd be like seeing it was a good idea to open the warhammer hotel he just needs to be able to tell his wife like see see you know in ways that we can't possibly match so it's a dream of so many of ours to see
Starting point is 00:40:07 warhammer in a cinematic universe to see it brought to life because we feel so many of the emotions we dedicate so much of our time well hang on hobby into what do you mean you feel so many of them like just like we all do yeah we're all we're all feeling all the emotions i'm feeling angry sad happy all of them i don't even know and i've never heard of warhammer or i like don't know anything yeah but can you imagine the depths of feeling that you would have access to if you had played warhammer like so what you're saying is that i'm not feeling all of the feelings right yeah there are here for unexperienced emotions yeah how would i know actually come to think of it i would have no idea if i was no reference point this aspect of our lives and to see it portrayed that way is
Starting point is 00:40:51 excitement beyond imagination and it is wonderful it is a fantastic time to be a part of the hobby and to see the growth that he's really geared up oh he's crying isn't i think i see it here on his face yeah he's crying he's 100 crying i've never cried about ip by the way yeah i i guess maybe like i just i'm not the kind of person who gets excited about this stuff maybe i just don't get excited about anything anymore and that's kind of my problem it's kind of sucking though but but like when people get like so like oh there's gonna be a movie based on the thing i'm just like ah that's cool i wish i loved anything as much as this guy seems to love warhammer you know i know i wish i got as excited or felt as deep maybe he's right maybe if i were playing warhammer now i mean not just i think the last
Starting point is 00:41:45 time i played it was like when i was in middle school um maybe i would feel alive again you know yeah you should try individual to champion that for us all and it's awesome oh can you go back because this is getting he did a little thing with his hand like i think it's something from like the the warhammer world or something i don't think i don't think it was like a salute or anything i think it was okay i'm doing a champion that for us all and it's awesome it's just flubbering like a big baby and i don't care it's awesomeness and i love it so this is my feeble attempt to get the word out there to let everyone know that this is something if you haven't already heard of it henry cavill is working on this from the sounds of it he's at the helm of it which
Starting point is 00:42:37 means we can have hope that it'll be done in a way that is true to what we want it to be because it matters so much to us. So for that, thank you, Henry, for caring, for being one of us, for focusing your time and attention in this direction,
Starting point is 00:42:54 in your life and in your career, right? Of all the places you could go. He is actually like actually crying. Yes, he is. I mean, he's now thinking about, yeah, how Superman decided to become part of his community and it is blowing he is. I mean, he's now thinking about how Superman decided
Starting point is 00:43:06 to become part of his community and it is blowing his mind. He's practically friends with Superman. I mean, Henry Cavill, it's safe to say he is a fucking god to these people. Well, okay. Now. Oh, hang on. A little something else to look at.
Starting point is 00:43:22 Haters are coming in. And not to be like this person and not to not to reinforce norms or whatever but like like men used to go to war you know yeah and uh and now there's this guy talking he's talking like uh like this is either ceo talk or like 12 year old who is like they're making a new batman movie yeah yeah yeah that's how i was when i was a kid that is the most exciting thing on the planet to you of course it is that's normal um i have this and this is a very common sort of thing that goes on i actually have another one too but here we go mini work gamer dave here from mini work gaming.com this is a challenge i am
Starting point is 00:44:02 officially issuing to hen Cavill. I saw your post where you said that you are one of us. Prove that you are one of us. Battle me. How are we going to do this during the pandemic? We can do 1v1 through
Starting point is 00:44:19 remote means. I'm going to go out on a limb here. I'm going to say this guy he's what he's he might be trying to drum up a little bit of uh support for his channel here by getting the most famous warhammer player in the history of warhammer to come on his channel and play him one-on-one he might have a bit of a benefit of of that, you know? Ridiculously awesome. I'm throwing this out there. I want to battle you because I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:44:50 When I saw that you posted that, that was super exciting for me. I thought that was just the coolest thing ever in the world. I was completely thrown away. Thrown away? Wait a second. You're blown away. I'm sure you mean to say blown away but yeah there's nothing like i feel like that a dorky guy who's into something that is like mildly
Starting point is 00:45:12 socially disapproved of loves more or hates more sometimes than like a hot cool guy who is into the same thing right so i figure there's probably a lot of people who like are like henry cavill fucking sucks he doesn't understand what it's like to be like a a fucking zero like incel play warhammer he thinks he can come in and be be a hunk all over our hobby fuck him well this one only has a one of us that you are in this hobby and that you're doing it with us. So this is my challenge to you. I want to battle you. However we can make that happen. If you're watching this and you're watching this... So Henry Cavill definitely saw this and responded
Starting point is 00:45:54 and they're best friends now, right? And he's like flooding the hotel. That guy is in the Warhammer show. He's in the show, yeah. Well, he should be in the show. Really, mini Wargaming Dave. He's in the Warhammer show. He's in the show, yeah. Well, he should be in the show, really. Mini Wargaming Dave. Honestly, nobody's done more for Warhammer
Starting point is 00:46:11 than Mini Gaming Dave. I don't believe it because he's simply not old enough. In my opinion, the person who's done the most for Warhammer would have to be an old person because he's been around so long. Here's another guy. Oh, another guy asking Henry Cavill to to do something he may not know me but there's a chance that we've met before i'll get on to that in a minute i know you said you did your warhammer models on instagram just so many thirst just the thirstiest guys in the world coming out being like yeah
Starting point is 00:46:42 in the world coming out being like yeah Henry come play Warhammer with me Henry I play Warhammer too I have a Hollywood celebrity big movie star play Warhammer with me I know what you need to do
Starting point is 00:46:58 as a Hollywood star who is into Warhammer is prove to me personally that you know as much about this as I do so just come on down whenever is good for you to the Warhammer hotel is proof to me personally that you know as much about this as I do. So just come on down whenever it's good for you to the Warhammer Hotel. Well, this guy has even funnier stuff. Check this out. You've received a lot of attention from the Warhammer community.
Starting point is 00:47:18 And I know this message may get lost in the ether, but here it goes anyway. I challenge you to a game of Warhammer 40,000. Henry, we were both born on the tiny, beautiful, slightly dodgy island of Jersey. You were in the year above me at school, but at the school up the road. I know that your Warhammer addiction probably started at the little shop in Conway Street, just like mine.
Starting point is 00:47:39 As I said, we don't know each other, but we might have met before. Let's face off in a game of warhammer 40,000 i'll film it for a battle report on the channel and all of the ad revenue generated from that video will go to the charity of your choice in all of the ad revenue from a youtube channel with 150,000 views that's probably at least 30 bucks and that's probably the best way that henry cavill has to drum up support for something i would imagine yeah that's probably the best way that henry cavill has to drum up support for something i would imagine yeah that's probably the best way he could get money together now
Starting point is 00:48:10 this guy i just want to say for the people listening just thank your lucky stars that you do not have to look at this guy's smug face and his little smirks as he's saying this stuff it is driving me insane the way yeah that's what i was saying before we might have met you know we might have met is brute that is you in the above me at the school up the road we may have met oh man his face is just it's awful this is tough to watch yeah this one's bad process of filming one of our small 500 point battle reports takes around about three hours you'll need a fully painted army, but you play Custode, so that's what, like four models?
Starting point is 00:48:48 If you don't know how to play 9th edition 40k yet, don't worry about it. We'll teach you as you go, and we'll keep you right. You live in land. Calling him out, being like, you probably don't even keep up with the latest edition. Yeah, that's fine. We got you. Don't worry about it. Smiling at me
Starting point is 00:49:03 like you're my friend.'re not friends i don't like you he's giving me this little smirk as he's talking to me like you know what i mean chris no i don't know what you're talking about at all none of us know we live in colchester that's barely a two-hour drive we'd love to host you at midwinter minis hq we'd be happy to come to you or we could meet on sacred ha hallowed ground in Jersey. Obviously, we'll keep everything on the down low, and no one will even know it happened until it goes online. Now, I know you're an incredibly busy man,
Starting point is 00:49:34 but I hope you can spare an afternoon to bring joy to hundreds of thousands of Warhammer fans across the world, and also raise a bit of money for charity at the same time. Now, if you're watching this and you're not Henry Cavill, please consider liking, commenting, and I will not. Oh my God. Are there comments on these videos? Like, hey guys, you gotta fucking chill.
Starting point is 00:49:53 There are a lot of people in the Reddit that are like, will the YouTubers please quit challenging him? It looks really bad. Yeah, he doesn't want to play you. Oh, I got this from the subreddit. And the title is I know this is a long shot. And it says, like the title says, I know this is a long shot. And that's probably generous.
Starting point is 00:50:16 But my fiance gave me permission to invite my absolute favorite actor to our wedding. favorite actor to our wedding the only superman the only man i'll ever consider gerald of rivia the actor who made it okay to be a warhammer fan to our wedding i can't your wife would allow you to invite henry cavill as if he's like your old like college buddy who always gets too drunk like yeah like yeah he's your wife is letting you invite henry cavill to the wedding because if he comes to the wedding there is a chance that they both might have some kind of romantic indiscretion and you know and he's a hunk he's just just to see him in a suit just to see him show up in a suit is just like it's gonna make the event better for all of the women and gay men, anybody who's into men.
Starting point is 00:51:06 Even honestly, anyone who even finds men attractive at all are going to have a better time. He's going to win life in the proceedings. And the classic, I hope she sees this. He goes, I can't do any more than hope that he sees this. Or someone might bring it to his attention. But October 21st, 2023 is going to be the best day of my life and i'd be honored to share with the man who made those characters come to life wait what what's the date uh october 21st 2023 so you're telling me this has not yet happened
Starting point is 00:51:38 this is not happening it could we could be reading the news in like two months and see like henry cavill appears at Warhammer fans wedding. Listen, I don't know about you. You're talking about reading the news. I'm talking about making the news. Let's get something happening here. Let's get it. Let's get we got a little bit of reach at least.
Starting point is 00:51:54 Let's try to get that out there. Let's try to get Henry Cavill to this gentleman's wedding. I don't think Henry wants to go. Listen, I don't give a shit if he wants to go. He fucking owes it to the community. All right. All right. I want to prove that he's a real. He fucking owes it to the community. He's got to prove that he's a real Warhammer fucking fan
Starting point is 00:52:08 by showing up at this guy's wedding. I can't believe they're pulling the fake fan shit on Henry Cavill. It's like they're treating him like he's a girl. They're like, oh, you think you know about Warhammer, huh, Henry? Why don't you battle me? Why don't you tell me about the Tau, huh?
Starting point is 00:52:23 David Harbour is a newer one that they found. Oh, yeah, yeah. I heard about that. From Stranger Things. In the new countries. They said he should bring Warhammer to Stranger Things. Is what they think he should do.
Starting point is 00:52:39 Isn't it over? Yeah, and he doesn't write the show anymore. Just sneak one in. Yeah, just he doesn't write the show. Just sneak one in. He goes to the end. He's just holding up a little towel. Yeah, just, yeah, yeah. He says. These things are pretty strange.
Starting point is 00:52:50 And he's just holding up like a little towel or space frame. He keeps making references that they just keep cutting. Like, David, you need to stop. I have no idea what you keep saying here. I'm sure this isn't the only invite he's gotten, or even the only one for that day. And I'm not nearly deluded enough to believe it's the most important thing which could wind up on his schedule, but here I am. This is your invitation. Your invitation.
Starting point is 00:53:18 Oh, no, he doesn't like what he... Now everyone... Guests are allowed to do it, Chris. Everyone is going to now comment below, because Brian's famous for something known as flubs and we don't like to bring it up but he has a problem with it and it's a it's actually a huge issue in his life that he's trying to work on um but now everyone's going to say invertation sorry i thought we're all going to report i thought that's what he had written and you were quoting and then we're like no i gotta correct this guy's uh yeah they would have
Starting point is 00:53:46 if you had never said a word i'm so sorry and i just want to be clear you beat me to it i was about to say make sure that everyone commented that below because i couldn't dare exclude anyone else you wanted to share with the day with actually says you plus and then a blank number they should have a massive group wedding that Henry Cavill comes to. It's not a plus one. It's just you plus. He can bring as many people as he wants.
Starting point is 00:54:14 Yeah, of course. Were they going to say no? Imagine Cavill, though, fucks it up, brings too many people. Now it's a huge problem logistically. The wedding's ruined ruined please message me here if you see this and want to join us for all the details and henry i know you're on reddit all the time so uh just shoot me off a quick red idea and forgive me if i have to ask for some kind of proof
Starting point is 00:54:39 but not everyone on the internet is as wholesome as the Superman you embodied so perfectly. Save the date. I'm going to do. You need to get me this guy's information because I do have a way to get everyone's phone numbers for my prank channel. And I'm going to get Henry Cavill's phone number and contact information. And I'm going to reach out to Henry directly. And I'm going to see if he'll show up at this guy's wedding. He's not going to show up at this guy's wedding he's not gonna show trellis replied you cut um just because a handsome so he he is quoting the the actor who made it okay
Starting point is 00:55:13 to be a warhammer fan and trellis replied just because handsome celebrity likes the same thing you do does not mean you need them as some sort of validation or to drippingly simp over them or that they even know you exist focus on what is important and right in front of you for example your partner well that's good advice i suppose in general but i do also understand the other person's point that hey just give some validity to like the public at large when they see somebody like hey okay that person that i love and think is cool plays it, so maybe it's a little bit cooler. Well, Guy's Big Fellas replies, and he goes, dude, just don't.
Starting point is 00:55:53 This is so cringy. Not to mention having a popular celebrity at your wedding is going to turn it into everyone come meet Henry. So now this guy has just game like game planned what's gonna happen like yeah he's right though this guy is it is right you do not want to be having a famous celebrity at your wedding and he's true in the unlikely case that he shows up your wedding will turn into a meet and greet it won't be a wedding anymore and And even if you enjoy it, your wife will not. So I like that. I like that.
Starting point is 00:56:26 And then Codester replies, I doubt he'll see a random Reddit post, though. Weirder things have happened. You'll be better off emailing his agent. That'll get you a direct response, hopefully. And then he replies, he's here. He said stuff in interviews about using Reddit before. Yeah, no, he's here. He's here.
Starting point is 00:56:44 He one time mentioned the word reddit in an interview he reads all my posts yeah yeah yeah so a new thing that i found that uh um where's it at here a new thing that i've found that's interesting is when you look up venues in which warhammer is played and you look up the one star reviews for those venues they all mention bo well body odor and the weird thing about it was this it was so bad it followed me home and then i noticed it the next day as well i have no idea. Your boy Warwick says, if you can afford Warhammer, you can afford deodorant. He gets a reply that says,
Starting point is 00:57:31 I've been to places I've told people to go home and shower or never come back. There's a limit when it starts to affect both the business and the enjoyment of other people. How fucking hard is it to shower and use deodorant? Everyone can't be depressed fuckers that stopped caring. So I don't know if it's depressed fuckers, but I've noticed like I went to Twitch con one year and I've mentioned this before that like
Starting point is 00:57:54 it was really cramped in some of the places and it was smelled so, so, so bad. And I think it's just when you have people that don't socialize very much, they don't go out really. So it's like any community that spends almost all their time at home and then this is a thing they go out for is going to have issues with personal hygiene generally because it's not a part of their life. It doesn't matter to them. I like this guy that stuck up for his hobby Warhammer and blamed it on someone else. Okay. This happened when I went to stock up on pants but didn't want to just order them online. I thought I was going to pick the paint
Starting point is 00:58:30 he meant pants. He says pants. I don't know why I didn't I didn't I didn't and I didn't want to just order them online. I thought I was going to pick the paint out and browse some new releases but the place smelled like a yugioh tournament
Starting point is 00:58:49 wow that's uh what do you call it uh that's fired horizontal uh violence you know i just can't get over that i just keep thinking about somebody deciding to stock up on pants it's a cold winter coming up you know man i gotta go stock up on pants you know what i'm saying um but wow deflecting to a yugioh tournament like no no hey hey listen i play warhammer but at least i don't play yugioh what's yugioh what's yugioh it's a card game it's like magic the gathering but it's japanese there's an anime based on it in the 2000s so it's gonna similarly it would be similarly like probably a similar situation a lot of people don't go out very much so yeah and because magic tournaments are famously the same right
Starting point is 00:59:39 is a yugioh player so i will not be making fun of them. I also saw this in the Warhammer, and I thought it was a very funny way to introduce yourself to the Warhammer fans. And it's just the first, the subject is noob. And he goes, for one, I'm not nerdy in hardly any regards unless it's in reference to music. For two, I just ordered my first army to build, and I'm about to start painting some orcs any suggestions thinking about priming them all black welcome to any and all feedback
Starting point is 01:00:12 uh and and so i like that he said i'm not a nerd he doesn't really understand what a nerd is then because you are a nerd if you're a nerd for music you're a nerd you're just thinking of like a classic nerd from the movies or whatever right right from the 80s movies yeah yeah exactly so like i don't have a pocket protector you know that's basically yeah uh pk pk and guard said there are plenty of socially well-adjusted extroverted professionally successful people who play warm hammer warm hammer just wait wait a second wait a second wait a second wait a second did you did you just say warm i'm dying i am i think i'm dying today hang on we haven't had one of these for a while club club club club and everyone's
Starting point is 01:00:58 pounding on their tables now enchanting flub there's a group called the flub heads who like basically this is like this is their oxygen right warm hammer is just whatever the other one was before it's not even gonna get any mention now it's gonna be all warm hammer commenting on this as far as painting no one likes to play an all gray army priming is good but you should strongly consider putting on a coat of contrast paint and maybe picking out your weapons in one other color even having just three colors on a model will go a long way you couldn't get some technical paint and grasses and do your bases too okay grass so everyone paints well everyone paints their armies to be clear like that is an aspect of the game is that you buy it and then you yeah like some people specific or they you just buy whatever they have like their own brands but i think there's so many other like brands of
Starting point is 01:01:49 hobby paints now that people use whatever but that's the thing too is like there's some people who are just really into lore right and then there's some people who are into just like you know like like a model airplane right like putting something together and painting it and like um and some people are just into playing and so sometimes the people who are in a plane kind of like resent having to paint stuff so they just like do it really shittily i understand yeah yeah i just want to get the colors on there but i want to get out there on the field but i i would be doing the like i would find that cool like building out a cool army that has like that really artistic and then maybe bringing it out and having people in the community admire it and say like wow that's incredible that's the thing you want right is you want people to be
Starting point is 01:02:28 like you want warhammer other warhammer fans to be like damn totally the dream would be to have henry cavill's dream would have be to have henry california imagine the greatest space marine i've ever seen imagine henry cavill looks at your space marine it's like wow the color scheme on this is incredible you'd just be like whoa dry brushing be like yeah i would carry you through the rest of your life probably honestly yeah i'd eat a gun i'd be like i don't need anything else i'd probably quit it's better than this i have two more things here real quick uh what place does love have in warhammer 40k and it's tagged lore none so we talked about this a little bit and you mentioned that maybe there's some love but it's not you know it's not a main aspect of it and there's not a lot of sexuality in it yeah there's canonically a god that if you get too
Starting point is 01:03:16 horny uh a demon shows up and like and rips your heart out okay that's kind of so they sort of like put some stuff in the game to be like yo yo you horny nerds chill because a fucking demon with lobster claws is gonna like cut your head off if you're too horny but sometimes if you're really horny you can become like a disciple of that god and it's funny because um so yeah there's like the four chaos gods right there's like the anger one the like war and anger uh there's the one that's like disease and decay there's the one that's like forbidden knowledge and then there's the one that's being horny but because they've become gradually like less and less like an 80s like weird british guy thing and more and more like uh mainstream like mass market product they've
Starting point is 01:04:01 had to like back up on like the oh there's a whole god whose thing is just it's incredibly horny so it's like oh no it's just really into like uh like it's like the later hellraiser movies where it's like there's like oh yeah they're just really into like pain and like excessive sensation so they all play a rock instruments really loud and they love their rock music and how crazy it is i hate when rock music's too loud at a restaurant that's one of our old episodes for the guys we all hate rock music and now put your head in and i that's that's very so you're saying that though you can get horny enough where you become a disciple of the horny god but it's just about finding that extra horny level.
Starting point is 01:04:46 So I would be in, I would have trouble because I don't get extra horny, but then Brian, Brian, on the other hand, would probably have no problem being a disciple. Pineapple bed sheet. So anyway,
Starting point is 01:04:58 what place you don't even know what that means, Merritt, right? Upside down pineapples is a, is a swingers thing. We, we sort of accuse each other of being a sex guy swinger and one of the most damning things that happened to me was my girlfriend showed a photo publicly of our pineapple bed sheets that we had on which was a terrible look for me but they are the right side up that doesn't fucking matter they're upside down if
Starting point is 01:05:26 you look a different way you're yeah i know so this guy painted a picture of his wife as the mother of premarks i don't know what that is the primaries are like the emperor's sons that he sent around the universe or whatever well this reply is it just it reminds me it takes me back to a time when the christopher nolan batman movies came out and people are like i fucking love these because there's no love interest you know what i mean yeah and it goes this one of the best aspects of the franchise is that it's set in a dark hopeless environment there's no flowery optimism or appealing to romanticized concepts like quote love i imagine romanticized concepts like quote love love your human affection has no place in this room if it even exists i will say that i like it depends i think when i've been single and really kind of like down on myself
Starting point is 01:06:23 as far as like oh i can't find a partner and, you know, not feeling like a lot of love in my life. I do appreciate a piece of entertainment or whatever that does not have does not even touch on it, does not remind me, just allows me to escape that like idea of not having love. So I can understand that, that it does have an appeal to it for sure. Well, he says, says, I imagine the closest thing to a relationship would be making sure you trust someone enough not to instigate friendly fire. That's why I like it. It's very utilitarian, LOL. I like how mature it is because it doesn't include one of the most enduring aspects of literature or human experience at all you know i'm sure
Starting point is 01:07:08 this guy says if most marines are recruited at a very young age and have all the parts that make them desire for sexual attention removed then wouldn't that make most of the marines virgins yeah i love that question no i kind of doubt it most marines initiates are taken in at sexual maturity after they've proven themselves in the various combat trials or rituals their tribes established for them there was even a mention in an old space wolf codex about how lucas the trickster before he was chosen cut a swath through the bed chambers of Fenris. It's yet another second. Oh, God. Wait, wait, wait.
Starting point is 01:07:47 Wait, can you say that line again? That's the nerdiest shit I ever heard. Can you say that again? I love it. There was even a mention in an old Space Wolf codex about how Lucas the Trickster, before he was chosen, cut a swath through the bed chambers of Fenris. I mean, that's, again, I could not make
Starting point is 01:08:09 up a sentence to, like, mock it that is better than that. That's so good. Good for him, you know? Good for Lucas the trickster. Yeah, he is a trickster. Getting his dick wet before it's removed or whatever. Yeah, that's actually, like, honestly, all of them, if they're getting their dick removed literally and not able to use all their parts removed and you
Starting point is 01:08:28 want to you might as well yeah go for it okay so this is the last thing uh they made a warhammer game uh out of a engine called total war which uh yeah i don't really it's like a big like epic battle kind of thing where there's like you know like old games like warcraft and starcraft where it's just like you have like a few guys running around i think total war is like there's like hundreds of guys it came up it came up on the history guys episode because people like to like simulate like napoleon's right stuff but you can like simulate actual historical wars on it and stuff. This guy goes,
Starting point is 01:09:07 Slanish boobs in Warhammer 3. Please do not cover them up. Slanish is the sex god. The whole point of Slanish is that they are sexual deviant god. This is a game for adults. Please do
Starting point is 01:09:24 not cover up the units with exposed breasts as they would not wear bras i can understand it with units of other races but covering up slinnish boobs will be a crime against the entire integrity of the faction and its lore okay so what do we think here is this guy horny for them and wants to jerk off to them or is he just so hyper fixated on the lore and the and making it like accurate we get more from him as the thing goes from somebody who says i don't know why anybody would care okay that just really don't you're not as much of a lore head yeah that hurts though that hurts when you commented a thing and the first comment is i don't know why anyone would care about any of this it's like yeah
Starting point is 01:10:10 ouch the next he comes back and says because it's the faction's aesthetic if you care about slanish you care about them being allowed to expose themselves as they were meant to be not be covered up no yeah and then and then all of a sudden he gets a little bit he's just like yeah and they should and also they would never cover up the bottoms either and there should be holes in there in case they want to you know and he starts getting really serious about it well here's one more question uh this question is for painters and it says modeling breasts what is the easiest and most attractive way to model breasts on a humanoid model?
Starting point is 01:10:48 Say you've never seen or touched them before. Just hypothetically speaking. Say you're not familiar with them. God. This is awesome. Well, actually exactly like a CSM. I think that's
Starting point is 01:11:03 some sort of Space Marine marine feel free to message me with advice ks space frame okay jacks 23 says you can you can use epoxy like brown stuff turns out a lot smoother and gets harder then prime minister sinister says and remember breasts are not round they have more of a teardrop shape yeah i mean this i think they're different shapes sometimes but yeah yeah that's cool he saw one pair one time i do like the idea of this guy getting like really deeply into like studying human anatomy in order to be like realistic titties on his space brains yeah and here's our last one the best way is to just not do it think about it females in power armor are going to be pumped full of drugs to add body
Starting point is 01:11:52 mass just like a female bodybuilder they ain't gonna have any tits to speak up yeah so he's just like i think he's just maybe cutting corners he was down for cutting corners wait no he's saying that so this is like on the actual figures themselves when they're being made okay okay they're painting because you can mod the right you have if you have like a modeling putty or something you can like add details and things i see so this is talking about you would you would be putting a mod on it so he's just saying right do it yeah i mean i think he's got a point there we sadly didn't get to one of the other biggest uh one of the other biggest prop uh controversies is should people who 3d print uh oh right play the game like that's a big printers are like we should be allowed and then the people that don't 3d printers are like, we should be allowed. And then the people that don't 3d print or like stop 3d printing,
Starting point is 01:12:49 you're costing games, workshop money and all this stuff. And we love the IP. We love the IP. Yeah. No, but seriously, their shit is so expensive.
Starting point is 01:13:00 And always has been, as far as I know. And yeah, they, they are really scared of 3D printing. And I feel like there's so many other like companies or startups now that have just been like, yeah, I don't know. We like make shit that's a lot cheaper.
Starting point is 01:13:14 And so people are like, oh, we could get other things. But the people who are fans of this stuff are so sucked into like the world that they're like, I don't want to play with like a generic. But can you do knockoffs? Is there like knockoff versions like knockoff yeah and i mean like if people are cool then like you know no one's gonna fucking care but if you go to like a store or something some people might be weird about it and also they have like official events sometimes like tournaments and stuff and definitely in those cases you definitely so you'd be able to tell the difference between the probably i assume they say that like
Starting point is 01:13:46 a lot of the 3d printer ones uh are like they they like uh have bad contact to like the a very thin sort of contact to the base so that they break if you touch them um i will say that this guy did these two guys got into a little bit of an argument about it. One guy goes, he goes, it's fair, but don't refuse to play against them like the comment above because somebody refused to play against them. The guy goes, I have every right to refuse. I'm not going to waste my time listening to them regurgitate their anti-game work. Game, I forget the thing already. Propaganda for two to three hours at Games Workshop. Propaganda for two to three hours
Starting point is 01:14:30 as they push around their topless sisters of battle and call me a sheep for wanting to support my local businesses rather than save a few bucks. And finally, initial style 663 is who we're going to give the last word to. And he says, someone 3D printed for me on demand sexy conversions of Imperium Assassins. They look better than originals and for much lower price. Four for the price lesser than the cost of only one.
Starting point is 01:14:59 So print away if it's not completely identical or don't. I'm not your mother. Okay. I like that guy. cool very very cool and maybe a guys plus thing we'll get to some of these uh some of these warhammer um uh fan fiction like primaris sergeant jovan destroys my virgin asshole. These are porno, like sexy ones. Somewhat, yes, yes, yes. That one sounds more than somewhat. Somewhat sexual. If you think about it, 40,000 dicks is one of them.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Okay. All right. Well, that is Warhammer. We did it right, and Mer and merit we couldn't have done it without you i feel like i didn't explain it no no no i'll be honest i feel like i made everything more confused no no you didn't you didn't i i have like it still is confusing to me obviously because i'm not going to understand it in an hour but but i i have more of an understanding of what it is okay yeah definitely yeah and this show is
Starting point is 01:16:06 so unfair and you know what's going to end up happening the the warhammer guys that we made fun of that get offended are just going to make fun of me for legos so yeah and the main thing that's going to happen is everyone's going to forget about all the stuff we said and they're just going to put warm hammer underneath. I would rather not have warm hammer. I want to give credit to somebody who hipped me to a lot of stuff. It's the big Aristotle. He goes by the big Aristotle. He was the Warhammer fan that didn't send me very nice people explaining
Starting point is 01:16:40 Warhammer. He sent me a lot of these like mini games, workshop Dave and like all that because most people were like, oh, you should have this person on that really legitimately loves Warhammer is sweet and actually likes your show or something. I was like, no,
Starting point is 01:16:55 no, we can't. That's boring. Yeah, we can't be nice to them. But I want to say Merit K M E R R I T T K on YouTube and i watch the forgotten worlds oh yeah thanks i fucking loved them man yeah those are fun videos my friend brew did the uh the visuals for them i haven't done any recently i did like a shorter video uh not too long ago about uh why all video games are just like live service games now which is fucking
Starting point is 01:17:26 horrible um but uh but yeah i've been doing a little bit of stuff on youtube and um yeah where's the best place to check you out now you're on twitter obviously it's on twitter for now like who knows how long it's gonna last i'm on blue sky uh i've just been doing a lot of writing lately and just posting that on my personal site which which is otherstrangeness.com. And I have a comic coming out in November. I'm writing a Howard the Duck comic. Oh, sick. Oh, that's great.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Yeah, yeah. Yeah, they're doing a special issue because it's the 50th anniversary of Howard the Duck. you because it's the 50th anniversary of howard the duck so chip starsky uh my friend uh is uh he did a run on the character in the 2010s and he's doing like a framing story and then daniel kibblesmith is doing a story and i'm doing one so that's incredible yeah it's really cool super cool yeah and i like how the duck a lot uh so i'm gonna say that your your video about dance dance revolution was really good like it was really fucking good because i was older at that time that that you were writing about that and i i do you you put a lot of work into explaining like that you know everybody's parents were afraid of them meeting people online. Yeah. Stuff like that.
Starting point is 01:18:45 And I was like, yeah, that really was like, everybody was scared. I want to thank you for doing the show, Chris. I don't want to thank you. And,
Starting point is 01:18:53 uh, we will be back next week with. Pastafarians. Oh yeah. That's what Tom and Dan, right? Yeah. Tom Sexton and Dan O'Sullivan.
Starting point is 01:19:05 And we'll do Pastafarians. And, of course, on Patreon.com slash MurderXBrian, you can get Guys Plus, which is a show we do where we talk about the other stuff. So you will hear more Warhammer stuff on Guys Plus at some time. And goodbye, everybody. Bye.

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